The Breakfast Club - DONEKY: Nikki Haley Says She’s Experienced Racism After Claiming America Has ‘Never Been a Racist Country’

Episode Date: January 17, 2024

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for him and this is what he did and so we are in a state of emergency okay white supremacist violence is it always has been the number one threat to our society but i'm also very proud that my wife is white the breakfast's a breakfast club, bitches. All right, Sean Bean, please tell me, why was I your donkey of the day? Well, donkey of the day for Wednesday, January 17th goes to Republican presidential candidate and former governor of South Carolina, Nikki Haley. I've had the opportunity to have a conversation with Nikki Haley when I guest hosted The Daily Show last November. I had her on I've also said repeatedly I personally believe the Republican Party should move away from Donald Trump and the

91 criminal charges to impeachments and host of other BS he brings to the table that's an understatement by the way uh the GOP needs to move away from him get behind Nikki but they won't because the white supremacist party doesn't really want to Indian American female representing them. I don't believe anyway. And the GOP, if, you know, they can get Trump back in office are so close. They're really taking over and punishing who they hate. Why would they give that up now? But those aren't the reasons we are gathered here today. We are gathered here today because Nikki Haley is in the news this week because she is the latest American politician to say America is not a racist country. Her statement was America has never been a racist country, which is complete malarkey. Cap, as the kids say. Let's listen. Are you a racist party? We're not a racist country, Brian.

We've never been a racist country. Our goal is to make sure that today is better than yesterday. Are we perfect? No, I know I faced racism when I was growing up, but I can tell that today is better than yesterday are we perfect no i know i faced racism when i was growing up but i can tell you today is a lot better than it was then cap that wasn't even the question the question was are you a racist party but nikki said america has never been a racist country but then she turned around and said she has experienced racism that's because there can be systemic racism uh without racists let's discuss listen uh y'all i don't know why we have to say this ever so often but a quick reminder america is a racist country i think we forget that racism isn't always explicitly visible it's not always uh you know

conscious but in america what racism absolutely is and always has been is systemic and structural remember when the great black philosopher a father of blue ivy said and you can try to change but that's just the top layer man you was who you was for you got here that's america regardless of how the top layer changes doesn't matter if oprah is the richest woman in the world barack obama was president that's just top layer stuff the root the foundation of this country is systemic and structural racism is deeply embedded in systems laws written the unwritten policies these racist practices and beliefs that produce and perpetuate widespread unfair treatment and oppression of people who are at the bottom of this caste system in America okay and those people are

black brown it is what it is why do we act like this isn't a thing okay America was never a racist country how many examples do you need right now we don't even gotta you know get into DeLorean and go back to slavery or the Jim Crow South we can talk about residential segregation right now unfair lending practices and other barriers the homeownership we could talk about a you know unfair barriers the accumulating wealth and environmental injustice and bias policing and sentencing of black and other barriers to home ownership. We could talk about unfair barriers to accumulating wealth and environmental injustice and biased policing and sentencing of black men and black boys,

voter suppression policies. There's a quote, and the quote is, those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. And when people say things like, America is not a racist country or it's never been a racist country, that's them trying to not remember the past. And that is exactly why systemic racism continues to permeate all sectors and areas of society okay saying things like america is not

a racist country or america has never been a racist country is why we have never truly fixed systemic racism because acknowledging the existence of systemic systemic racism is the first step all right you can't hear what you don't reveal and we're not gonna ever heal because there's not a politician who truly wants to be honest about it this isn't the first time i've given the biggest he heart of someone for making these type of statements oh no no no no see back in 2021 just three short years ago uh my south carolina brethren senator tim scott delivered the gop response to to Biden's first joint address in Congress. And he said this. Hear me clearly.

America is not a racist country. Yeah. Well, that statement for the next few days caused the media to ask every person of color. OK, every black and brown person who was in government, whether or not they thought America was a racist country. They asked, you know, more of my South Carolina brethren, my OG Jim Clyburn. I love Jim Clyburn. I hope this doesn't get my invite to Jim Clyburn's world-famous fish fry revoke this year.

But they asked my OG and he said this. A racist country would never elect Barack Obama president or Kamala Harris vice president. So we should stop arguing about whether or not this is a racist country. Barack Obama president or Kamala Harris vice president. So we should stop arguing about whether or not this is a racist country. It is not. Cap. They also asked Vice President Kamala Harris, is America a racist country?

And she had this to say. Well, first of all, no, I don't think America is a racist country, but we also do have to speak truth about the history of racism in our country and its existence today. Cap. Nikki Haley, Republican. Tim Scott, Republican. Jim Clyburn, Democrat. Kamala Harris, Democrat.

All saying America is not, or as Nikki said, never has been a racist country. Every single one of those statements is just simply not true on any level. Absolute falsehoods okay the vice president kamala harris said america is not a racist country but the nation must speak the truth about its history with racism in this country speaking the truth about the history of racism in this country is acknowledging that yes america systemically and structurally is a racist country okay saying this country isn't racist because they elected president obama and you know vice president kamala harris is not accurate everybody in this country isn't racist okay i believe people aren't inherently racist but once

again this country this system is rooted in structural and systemic racism the irony of og jim clive bern statements are they are actively trying to prevent us from ever having another president obama now through voter suppression And we can't even begin to discuss the impact of voter suppression on black communities. We're talking about, guess what? America being racist. And we're not even going to get into the electoral college's racist origins, okay?

I'm not smart enough to discuss that. But once again, you can't talk about that without talking about America being a racist country. All right, listen. Here's what it is. Regardless of party, nobody talks about race honestly because when it comes to Republicans, racism is part of the GOP's ideological DNA. And when it comes to Democrats, they just get they just shook to death.

That's why I call them cowards. OK, Democrats advocate for anti-racist policies, but then turn around and say America is not a racist country. It's stupid. And all because they are afraid to turn off hypothetical imaginary swing voters. This is why people think Democrats are full of it, because when Republicans are telling their base their truth all the time and Democrats are dancing around. OK, everything Republicans look honest and Democrats look like liars. I know it's strange, but that's why knowing how to communicate is important. And you will never win people over looking like you lying. OK, Republicans are more honest with their lies than Democrats are about their truth. I repeat, Republicans are more honest with their lies than Democrats are with their truth. Democrats in regards to racism and a lot of other things,

but in regards to racism, especially in light of what Nikki Haley just said, Dems need to lean into some difficult, honest conversations about race in this country. You will win some people over and you will lose some people, but anything is better than what y'all are doing right now okay but i don't want to make this about dims because as i said earlier regardless of party no politician has conversations about race honestly in this country but one more thing for democrats all right you can't lay out all these examples of systemic racism and then turn around and say america isn't a racist country. You just dismissed your own position. OK, if the Democratic Party was unified and they all collectively said America is a racist country and it's our job to fix it, it wouldn't be an issue.

And it would be honest. But folks are scared to be honest. OK, folks are scared to be honest because they know nobody in the party will have their back. And if you were honest, you would really show the glaring difference between yourself and republicans okay in regards to racism but in regards to racism you all are saying the same thing and that is deeply disappointing it is deeply disappointing to listen to all of these people try to either deny or oversimplify racism okay to either deny or oversimplify america being? To either deny or oversimplify America being a racist country. Or in the case of Nikki Haley, saying America was never a racist country

to begin with. Please give Nikki Haley the biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw. Hee-haw. Mm-hmm. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey of the day. Yes, indeed.

Now, let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051 this morning in the room as we tell you a story about des brian he was on a pivot podcast fantastic conversation talking about breaking generational curses this is what he said let me read something it's been on my phone for five since i met y'all i probably be like six years to say uh, break generational curses. Quit yelling at your kids before they go to bed and inspect them to sleep well. Quit yelling at your kids in the morning right after they wake up before school and inspect them to have a good day. You set the tone for your children. You set the tone for your voice.

They will always remember in their heads. You become their inner voice. Don't be their inner critic. Speak life. speak bravery kindness and hope speak wisdom and truth most of all listen to your children i never had none of that i get that to mind and that's my number one priority that's i follow that that's heartbreaking and um and i do it i live it i live it i want uh i encourage everybody to go listen to that episode of the pivot with uh you know des bryant but you know i really just want to know when you hear that when you hear those words coming out of des bryant's mouth how does it

make you feel as a parent and not even just a parent how does it make your inner child feel what do you feel when you hear those words well we'll discuss when we come back 800-585-1051 let's talk about it all right it's the breakfast club come on the breakfast club had enough of this country ever dreamt about starting your own i planted the flag this is mine i own this it's easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my god. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max.

You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to post run high on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love.

I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, y'all. Niminy here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman, Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone.

The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hello, my undeadly darlings. It's Teresa, your resident ghost host. And do I have a treat for you. Haunting is crawling out from the shadows, and it's going to be devilishly good. We've got chills, thrills, and stories that'll make you wish the lights stayed on. So join me, won't you? Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can.

Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.