The Breakfast Club - DONKEY: Attorney Faces Potential Sanctions After Using Chat GPT To Write Court Filings

Episode Date: June 1, 2023

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I'm going to fatten all that shit around your eyes. They want this man to throw them blows, man. They wait for Charlamagne to tap them gloves. Let's go. They had to make a judgment of who was going to be on the Donkey of the Day. They chose you. It's a breakfast club, bitches. who's donkey of the day today well ed sharon donkey of the day for wednesday today's wednesday right thursday thursday donkey of the day for thursday june 1st goes to stephen swartz an

attorney with a firm called levadal levadal and oberman right here in new york city now this story warms my heart because i keep telling y'all ai is the devil and I don't like AI for a lot of reasons and I hate how people say things like it's a necessary evil. Evil should never be necessary but the society we live in is always willing to accept some evil especially if it puts money in people's pockets but this story is proving one of my theories about AI correct and that is simply you can't trust it. And this attorney found out the hard way when he used ChatGPT to help write a Manhattan federal court filing. Let's go to CBS News for the report, please. Even a lawyer with 30 years of experience can learn something new about the law. For example, don't let ChatGPT do your legal research. Stephen Schwartz filed a brief for a man who said he was injured by a drinks cart on a flight operated by Avianca Airlines.

Schwartz's filing cited precedents like Martinez versus Delta Airlines. The problem was that while Delta Airlines does exist, the case does not. Schwartz admitted he relied on chat GPT, which made up half a dozen bogus cases. Now the lawsuit he was working on has been tossed and he faces potential sanctions the risks of ai go far beyond poor legal work industry leaders including executives of three leading ai companies co-signed a statement tuesday warning the technology could pose an existential threat to society 30 years of, 30 years to build a reputation in law one day on chat GPT to ruin it. Okay.

Steven Swartz, you obviously are one of those people that cheated their way through law school. All right. You don't just start doing things like this because of the technology. No, no, no.

You've been doing this since at least high school, probably copied from folks so much. You even signed the person you was cheating off of his name. Okay. What kills me about this story isn't the fact that steven used chat gtp it's just that you didn't do the number one thing we were all taught to do in school and should apply in our everyday lives and that's check in sight our sources check in sight our work you have to proofread and read some more to make

sure you have everything in this paper correct this is why when people say things to me like ai can never replace humans you're gonna need a human to make sure ai is doing what it's supposed to do do you realize how lazy homo sapiens are okay and how much technology has made us even lazier okay this whole world we lived in this whole world we live in is designed for us to do as little as possible okay we want everything instant nowadays we want everything right here right now this lawyer used chat gpt simply because he didn't want to do the work and guess what just another example that in life there is no shortcuts okay it's simply not and we shouldn't want to give up our critical thinking skills to chat gpt don't tell me that chat gpt

needs humans when humans are just willing to relinquish all control to this artificial intelligence chat bot. Okay, because that's what Stephen Swartz did. And he paid the price. Imagine your lawyers in court asking the court to get your lawsuit tossed. He's citing more than a half a dozen relevant cases. And none of those cases exist. Completely made up by chat GPT.

Stephen Swartz, why would you not check and double check chat gpt's work to see if the cases they used were actual cases i didn't go to college okay i don't know how much studying y'all do in law school but i feel like you would have heard a lot of these cases before and some of them should just make you be a little curious for example you heard the case titles miller versus united airlines peterson versus iran air heart versus soul plane three six versus stay fly air wouldn't you just be a little bit curious about what some of those things are okay i made those last two stories but the moral of the story is this this is why the robots will win because humans are relinquishing all trust to

them and honestly the way that things are currently going, people won't even care if the cases are real soon as long as they sound good. I can easily see a judge not knowing any better. A jury definitely wouldn't know no better. Why would they? They're not lawyers. What if a judge or someone in the jury goes home and pulls these fake cases up,

reads them, and applies them to the actual real case that they will be trying, all right? They're them to the actual real case that they will be trying all right they're going to start trying real cases based off precedent that's not even real okay i've told y'all a million times the lines of what's real and what's fake are already blurred ai will obliterate those lines completely now i would play a game with guess what race it is, but it's obvious Stephen Swartz isn't black, right? Because even though black people may believe anything, we question everything, okay? What's the first thing we say

when somebody tells us a story that seems a little fishy? This don't sound right, okay? See, this new generation, y'all operate a little different because y'all believe everything on social media, but when you're born in the 1900s, you are skeptical about everything. I encourage you all to read the fifth agreement by don miguel ruiz yes i'm sure you've read the four agreements but there's a fifth agreement and the fifth agreement is be

skeptical but learn to listen okay be skeptical because most of what you hear isn't true you know that humans speak with symbols and that symbols are only the truth because we agree not because they are really the truth but the second half of the agreement is learn to listen and the reason is simple when you learn to listen you understand the meaning of the symbols that people are using you understand their story and the communication improves a lot that's going to be such a foreign concept if y'all just relinquish all control and power to chat gpt america you better learn to be as skeptical about everything as black people. Okay? Or question everything. Learn to say, this don't sound right.

Alright? Black people from the 1900s, we say things don't sound right when it's no sound involved. You better get like us because the life and career you save may be your own. Please let Remy Ma give Stephen Schwartz the biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw! Hee-haw! You stupid mother******, are you

dumb? Alright, well thank you for that donkey of the day. Yes, indeed. And shout to BET, we'll see you guys tomorrow. That don't sound right. What? You sure we're gonna be here tomorrow on BET? Tomorrow's Friday, what's wrong with you? Just making sure. Be skeptical, but learn to listen.

Yo, shut up. BET, we'll see y'all tomorrow. Peace. Everybody else, let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. What do you think of AI? Not Allen Iverson, niggas. Artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence, right. Because if you think about it, if you're an attorney, you're thinking, you know, I could save a little money.

Instead of having, you know, interns and employees, I type it in chat, GT, Jack,t jack whatever his call and it pulls up all the other cases now he should have googled to see if those cases were there but it seems like a you know something a little easy that can help people and now 30 years of experience down the drain your reputation down the drain because you decided to go on chat gpt one time all people questioning everything about you now also ai they're saying you know in some vehicles if they have ai and vehicles you know sometimes people fall asleep they have all these different modules now right but that's ai self-driving cars right but it's not too many cars i know tesla has one they're starting to have it in 18 wheelers now escalades got them

escalades have them but not to an extent you have to touch the steering wheel at a certain time you just can't sit back i don't know i don't have one of those i can't afford that type of stuff okay whatever but we're asking what's your thought on ai because it could be dangerous just just imagine just i don't even put that out there let me think of another thing um just think about you get into a beef no no no no think about you getting in the beef you're the one getting in all the beef don't throw the point at me now you just think about you getting the beef i'm thinking about you getting the beef no because somebody can use somebody could pride month too by the way don't be talking about beef

unless you want to do something perfect example let's say that somebody wants to say charlemagne is gay right what you can come ain't nothing wrong with being a little gay everybody's a little gay like but now this don't sound right somebody can use charlemagne's voice and make a fake conversation with charlemagne's voice and somebody else and people will believe it. And it'll be hard for you not to say it wasn't true. Let's go even deeper. Imagine you hear your best friend and your wife, a conversation

between them two, talking about getting it in and all kinds of stuff and the conversation not even real. And you about to go see both of them in the next five minutes. You might be driving on the way that y'all about to meet somewhere. And you just heard this call. And you about to go see both of them in the next five minutes. You might be driving on the way. Y'all about to meet somewhere. And y'all meet. And you just heard this call.

And you do something stupid. And then you realize that it was this. That's what I'm trying to say, man. So what's your thoughts on AI? Let's talk about it. 800-585-1051. Let's discuss. It's The Breakfast Club.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete.

Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zaka Stan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-A-Stan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show,

where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unnerves the plot to murder a one-woman

WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

you get your podcasts.