The Breakfast Club - DONKEY: Charlamagne Reacts To Assassination Attempt On Trump

Episode Date: July 15, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show, Civic Cipher. That's right. We discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle.
Starting point is 00:00:20 We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other. So join us each Saturday for Civic Cipher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is America. There is no question
Starting point is 00:00:34 that there are problems in this country between police and community. Yes, you are a donkey. The latest on that police killing
Starting point is 00:00:44 of a black man. Now to new developments in the deadly spa shooting rampage. And yesterday was a really bad day for him, and this is what he did. And so we are in a state of emergency. Okay, white supremacist violence is and always has been the number one threat to our society. But I'm also very proud that my wife is white. To the breakfast club, bitches! Alright, Charlene, please tell me, why was I your donkey of the day?
Starting point is 00:01:08 Well, Tommy Lauren, donkey of the day for Monday, July 15th, goes to the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, Mike Johnson, as well as United States Senator from Ohio, J.D. Vance. First and foremost, before we continue, let me state the obvious and say regardless of what you feel about a person's politics, violence is never the answer. It's that simple. If you don't like a candidate or an elected official, you should attempt to take them out with your votes, not violence. If you think otherwise, if you think violence is indeed the answer, just do a simple exercise and ask yourself if this was
Starting point is 00:01:39 a candidate or elected official that you actually voted for and supported and they got shot at, someone attempted to take their life, what would your reaction to that be? candidate or elected official that you actually voted for and supported and they got shot at, someone attempted to take their life, what would your reaction to that be? When we discuss what happened to Donald Trump, I believe that discussion, like most discussions in America, is multi-layered. But first and foremost, we should talk about the issue of political violence and we should denounce it and state quite plainly that we have no place for it in America, period. And I'm not saying that to be politically correct. I'm saying that because that's how I truly feel. Now, back to the donkeys at hand. Mike Johnson and Senator J.D. Vance from Ohio. First, let me read this tweet that J.D. Vance
Starting point is 00:02:16 posted on Saturday at 8.20 p.m., just a couple of hours after the assassination attempt with Trump occurred. He posted, today is not just some isolated incident. The central premise of the Biden campaign is that President Donald Trump is an authoritarian fascist who must be stopped at all costs. That rhetoric led directly to President Trump's attempted assassination, end quote. Speaker of the House Mike Johnson was on NBC's Today Show on Sunday morning, and he said this in regards to the Trump shooting. Everyone needs to turn the rhetoric down. Let's listen.
Starting point is 00:02:47 As America awakens to a rather surreal morning, this is a horrific act of political violence that ought to be roundly condemned. Obviously, we can't go on like this as a society. We've got to turn the rhetoric down. We've got to turn the temperature down in this country. We need leaders of all parties on both sides to call that out and make sure that happens so that we can go forward and maintain our free society that we all are blessed to have.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Now, I've been observing and just listening all weekend. You know, I'm not a person who rushes to spill the first thing to say to Mike Johnson and J.D. Vance that you can't honestly have a conversation about dangerous rhetoric that leads to political violence without discussing the dangerous rhetoric that has come out of President Donald Trump's mouth and his social media. Mike Johnson said everyone needs to turn the rhetoric down. The question I would ask Mike Johnson is who is everyone? For him and J.D. Vance to make comments like that and not acknowledge the countless times Donald Trump has said things that have led to violence or could lead to violence is disingenuous. And it's them playing campaign games. It's them politicizing this situation because, of course, it is a presidential election year. They, like many politicians, Republicans and Democrats, are using this as an opportunity to score points on the opposition.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Real leaders would be using this as an opportunity to actually bring people together. Instead, you both are causing more division. You are causing more people, in this case, Democrats, to be targets. Once again, you cannot make any statements about dangerous rhetoric that leads to political violence and division without acknowledging the words that have come from Donald Trump's mouth
Starting point is 00:04:21 and his social media. There has been a real, unserious attitude in regards to political violence in this country. When a nut-ass follower of Donald Trump came to Nancy Pelosi's house and attacked her with a hammer, Trump made fun of it. And we'll stand up to crazy Nancy Pelosi who ruined San Francisco. How's her husband doing, by the way? Anybody know? And she's against building a wall at our border, even though she has a wall around her house, which obviously didn't do a very good job. Remember when Trump posted pictures of Biden looking like he's bound and hogtied on his
Starting point is 00:04:59 social media? Donald Trump, in an attempt to overthrow the results of the 2020 election, told his followers to fight And that led to an attempted coup of this country And some of his followers did bring guns and ammunition to D.C. for that purpose They did storm the Capitol They were chanting to hang Mike Pence Because he wouldn't alter the election results That happened
Starting point is 00:05:19 And it happened because of Donald Trump I'm not even going to go down the rabbit hole Of how many times Donald Trump has incited political violence or co-signed political violence or suggested political violence. I'll give you a couple that come to mind. You remember when the now governor of Montana, I believe it was Montana, he was running for Congress and he body slammed the reporter and got charged with assault. And Donald Trump said, he is my type.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Is that not encouraging violence? Remember when Donald Trump suggested that, you know, Second Amendment advocates assassinate Hillary Clinton? Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish the Second Amendment. By the way, and if she gets to pick, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know. Come on. So Mike Johnson and J.D. Vance, please don't act like Donald Trump is not solely responsible for creating this environment of political violence that he's not even safe from. About 12 days ago, Kevin Roberts, the president of the pro-Trump think tank,
Starting point is 00:06:19 the Heritage Foundation, said this. In spite of all this nonsense from the left, we are going to win. We're in the process of taking this country back. We are in the process of the second American revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be. It will be bloodless if the left allows it to be. Mike Johnson and J.D. Vance, could that kind of rhetoric lead to political violence? If somebody was at home, right, reading Project 2025, which was put together by the Heritage Foundation and heard Mike Johnson say that, don't you think that could lead to some type of political violence? Why aren't you denouncing all that type of rhetoric? Okay, then and now, how could you in this moment immediately point the finger to Democrats?
Starting point is 00:06:58 And how come more of the media hasn't been saying this all weekend? I understand, sadly, there was an assassination attempt on the former president. But in a moment like this, we can't worry about, you know, striking the right tone. We have to worry about telling the truth. Now, Mike Johnson and J.D. Vance both say that Donald Trump has been vilified and, you know, calling him a threat to democracy was one of the things that led to this. I saw Mike Johnson again on Anderson Cooper, and Anderson rightfully pointed out that Trump has said that about Joe Biden as well. Let's listen. It's an objective truth that Donald Trump is probably the most persecuted and attacked political figure in history,
Starting point is 00:07:34 certainly among presidents, maybe at least since Abraham Lincoln, Civil War era. And that takes a toll. I mean, when my colleagues go out, Democrat colleagues, and say democracy will end, the republic will be in an emergency stage if Donald Trump wins for president, it's just not true. It's another election. And when they say that kind of rhetoric and they heat it up like that, there are people out there that take these things to heart, and they act upon them. Politicians are not responsible for that. But we do have a responsibility to be responsible. I do want to point out the former president himself has also used that kind of rhetoric.
Starting point is 00:08:11 He said on June 27th, Joe Biden is a threat to democracy, a threat to the survival and existence of our country itself. That's certainly the same kind of language you're talking about. Listen, everybody is prone to overstatement. OK. I mean, a few days ago earlier this week, I mean, Joe Biden actually said we need to put Donald Trump in the bullseye. I mean, right. I don't think either of those men meant to imply anything beyond just rhetoric. But the point is, the rhetoric has consequences. Once again, you cannot talk about rhetoric without talking about the things that Donald Trump has spewed out of his mouth and on social media. People like myself and others call Donald Trump a threat to democracy because he has done things that have threatened democracy.
Starting point is 00:08:53 I could argue that in regards to the three judges he put on the Supreme Court, democracy is done, but you all won't realize that until November when the presidential election comes, but I'll get back to that. For all you people who may think saying Donald Trump is a threat to democracy is just noise, well, when someone says we should terminate the Constitution to overthrow the results of an election, that's a threat to democracy. When someone tells people to fight and they storm the Capitol to overthrow the results of an election, that's a threat to democracy. Trump put three judges on the now illegitimate, corrupt institution that is the Supreme Court,
Starting point is 00:09:21 and they are absolutely threatening our democracy. They granted him presidential immunity for crimes because he asked. That has nothing to do with the Constitution. Look up the Chevron ruling the Supreme Court did. It's basically saying they can make up stuff based on their own interpretations. That's one of the biggest FUs to the Constitution I've ever witnessed. They are abolishing constitutional rights like Roe v. Wade. They made it to where elected officials can take bribes. Donald Trump and Republicans have put together a corrupt Supreme Court that literally doesn't have to care what voters want. They have set up a system where either Republicans win elections
Starting point is 00:09:53 or elections do not matter. Is that not a threat to democracy? Wait until November. Now, personally, I don't believe Biden can beat Trump, especially after Saturday. But if he does, when Donald Trump contests the results of the election, because he will if he loses, in light of all the Supreme Court's recent rulings, do we really believe they aren't going to side with him? Is that when some will finally believe he is a threat to democracy? Are we going to just believe him when he says
Starting point is 00:10:18 the election was rigged? Only difference is this time when he says the election is rigged, the Supreme Court is going to side with him and it will be a coup by court. And of course, it will be people in this country who will believe him if he loses and says the election is rigged because people believe what they want. That's why some folks want to believe his attempted assassination was staged. Nobody believes the truth in this country anymore. And that is another problem in America. Depending on what side you stand on, that's what you believe. Nobody thinks anything is real unless it confirms what they already thought. That's why folks immediately rushed to say Donald Trump's assassination attempt was staged.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Why? What's the reason to spread that narrative? What happened on Saturday was very real. And it should be a teachable moment for us all because this is what happens when you have people in positions of power spreading the kind of dangerous rhetoric that Donald Trump has been spreading since 2016. No one should say this is staged. Saying it is staged is exactly why we can't fix the problem
Starting point is 00:11:18 because we're not acknowledging the truth. What happened to Donald Trump is very real. Political violence is very, very real. And it's only going to get worse, especially when you have people like J.D. Vance and House Speaker Mike Johnson blaming Democrats when we don't even know the shooter's motives yet. Okay, the truth is President Donald Trump has created an environment of political violence that not even he is safe from. So it's damn sure not safe for anyone else. It is my hope that at the Republican National Convention, Republicans use this opportunity
Starting point is 00:11:49 to de-escalate and not escalate because if they go out there and escalate, they have to know they are continuing to make things unsafe for everyone, including them. Trump stood up after getting shot, fist in the air, blood on his face, and just like on January 6th, he told his supporters to fight. Fight who? We don't even know why this happened to you. Everyone just speculating. Everyone got their own conspiracy theories, their own ideas.
Starting point is 00:12:13 You can't just tell folks to fight. What we all need to learn from this is that history now shows us that folks are willing to fight and kill for whatever they believe in. Whether it's storming the Capitol or shooting at the president, it seems like violence is inevitable. The stage has already been set. How far it goes depends on us, the American people. We have to decide what kind of republic we want to live in, and we need to decide that now. Sadly, though, when I see and hear statements from Senator J.D. Vance and House Speaker Mike Johnson, statements that continue to divide us and make people unnecessary targets, I fear it may be too late.
Starting point is 00:12:48 But let's not forget the moral of the story. We are all adults in this country, okay, big boys, big girls. We can condemn political violence and what happened to Trump on Saturday night and also talk about the dangerous rhetoric that Donald Trump has spewed that got us here. Please let Remy Ma give Senator J.D. Vance and House Speaker Mike Johnson the biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw, hee-haw. You stupid mother f***er. You dumb.
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Starting point is 00:13:33 The Breakfast Club. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q War. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show, Civic Cipher. That's right. We discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people.
Starting point is 00:13:52 We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence. And we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other. So join us each Saturday for Civic Cipher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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