The Breakfast Club - DONKEY: Dr. Christina Greer Goes Off On Charlamagne & Killer Mike ‘They’re Real Threats To Democracy’

Episode Date: February 26, 2024

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Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water,

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Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Lauren Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8th, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, and every single wig removal together. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, everyone. I'm Madison Packer, a pro hockey veteran

going on my 10th season in New York. And I'm Anya Packer, a former pro hockey player and now a full Madison Packer stan. Anya and I met through hockey, and now we're married and moms to two awesome toddlers, ages two and four. And we're excited about our new podcast, Moms Who Puck, which talks about everything from pro hockey

to professional women's athletes to raising children and all the messiness in between. So listen to Moms Who Puck on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your execution on the donkey of the day is something to behold it gave me donkey of the day and i deserve it you need to know what you need to tell them i am you have the voice tell them it's time for donkey of the day it's a read but you're so good at it you're trying to be a fake ass charlemagne

damn charlemagne who you give the only one Charlemagne to go. Damn, Charlemagne. Who you give the donkey of the day to now? Well, Sexy Red, donkey of the day for Monday, February 26th. It isn't going to a particular person or individual. I'm casting a wide net, okay? It's just going to a false narrative that is being spread by people and individuals on social media. And I have to say in regards, I have to say networks like msnbc too not the whole of msnbc but i've seen a couple of articles on msnbc blogs that have also pushed this false narrative we are about to discuss and this weekend i was home and i woke up saturday morning to a few

people i highly respect and they sent me some commentary from stephanie rules msnbc show the 11th hour i've been on stephanie's before. I know Stephanie. All love and respect. I enjoy the program. She had a sister on there named Dr. Christina Greer, who was a political scientist at Fordham University. And they were discussing Trump sneakers. OK, the lower third said Trump hawks sneakers in bid to attract young voters. And Dr. Christina Greer was speaking to that. And then Stephanie Rule interjected and bought up myself in the good brother killer Mike's name.

Why? I don't know. And then Dr. Christina Greer went off. Let's listen. We've had water. We've had steaks. We've had ties. Okay, but then why don't I hear from the Charlemagne, the God or the killer Mike's out there saying, hold on. Because they need to read a book and or talk to a political scientist. Oh my God. Right. These are people who have massive platforms.

Huge influence over young people. Massive influence over not just young people, massive influence over not just young people, but black men in particular. They are the ones who are parodying Russian propaganda, ones that you can find easily on Facebook, sort of saying, well, neither one does anything. So, you know, I don't know if you want to stay home, that's up to you. They refuse to lay out what, how far this train can go off the track, right? How far Donald Trump can take us away from democratic ideals. This country is not perfect. Every black person knows that, right? But incrementally, we have to actually work towards the ideals. We can't have people consistently

telling young people, well, if you sit this one out, I don't think it'll make a difference because, you know, Joe Biden hasn't done anything for your community. Absolutely not. I mean, we know that having debt relief for people who have gone to college, that actually closes the wealth gap, right? So African-Americans can actually start to buy houses. I mean, the list goes on and on. So when you have people like Killer Mike and Charlamagne Tha God,

I think they are actually real dangerous threats to democracy. Wow. Dr. Christina Grimm, myself and Killer Mike, a threat to democracy. We parrot Russian propaganda. We tell black people not to vote. We refuse to lay out how far this train can go off the tracks, how far away Donald Trump can take us from democratic ideas.

I mean, man, with all due respect, everything she said about Killer Mike and myself is a complete lie. And her lie wasn't intentional. She didn't go on the 11th hour and say, I'm going to lie on Charlamagne and Killer Mike. Her lie is based on false information. Her lie is based off false narrative, false narratives that she might see on Facebook. See, when you see a false narrative on social media and you don't do any independent research to see if what is being said is true. And then you go on a platform and repeat that false narrative. You are helping to push that lie. I know it's not intentional. Dr. Christina Greer is just a victim of false information. Like so many of us are.

It gets brought to my attention, the lies. A lot of black political pundits speak on social media and in their group chats about myself. I'm fully aware of who says what. Black people in the political space on social media who love Master Biden and the Democrats so much and they hate any critique of them. So they have all these things to say about myself and a killer mic. i don't have any problem with you disagreeing with us but don't lie

on us don't say we pushing russian propaganda and telling folks not to vote and please don't say i'm not willing to tell folks how far trump can take us from democratic ideals i don't even have to talk let's just run the receipts because this is what I really want to get to. This is me earlier this year on Piers Morgan all the way in the UK. Piers asked me about Joe Biden's you ain't black comments. If you don't know whether to vote for me or Trump, you ain't black. And this was my answer when he asked me about that. I think what he was trying to say is simply, you know, if you vote for Donald Trump as a black person, you may be voting against your own interests. Do you think that is true? Do you think you're voting against your own interests as a

black American if you vote for Trump? Yes, I do. Because, you know, I feel like, you know, Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. And, you know, when you talk about a country that could be leaning toward fascism because you have people in a party that are leaning toward fascism you know as a black person or any minority i don't think you know you would want to live under a fascist regime and you know that's not something that don't fare too well for you let's go to when i was on who's talking to chris wallace on cnn he asked me a simple question what do i think of donald trump listen what do you think of donald Trump? I think Donald Trump is a fascist who does not care about democracy in any way, shape or form. So you think it would be dangerous for the country if he were to get back in the White House?

I think I think that is I think that's an understatement, you know, and I think that's also the pickle that we as American people are in. Right. I think that is three options in 2024. You have Donald Trump, who's the criminal. You have Joe Biden, who represents the cowards, the Democratic Party of cowards. They don't fight enough. And you got the couch. And I think, you know, the couch is voter apathy. And I think a lot of people are going to choose to stay home in 2024. And that should scare us. The one time that people should absolutely positively be terrified and be afraid of what could happen to democracy is next year oh the

magabots are getting information in my comments right now now listen am i clear yet because i'm consistent i'm gonna play one more this is me when i was on this week uh on abc with jonathan carl and jonathan he too asked me about don. Listen. This is the first time in my life when people say things like, you know, this person is a threat to democracy. It's absolutely true. And it's mind boggling to me that, you know, nobody is taking it as serious as I feel like they should. Like we watched an attempted coup of this country happen on january 6th and everybody's acting like it was just a bunch of people you know while in that at spring break you know down in florida like we literally watched you know people try to overthrow the government because they

didn't like the results of an election led by a former you know president if that doesn't cause a sense of urgency in people i don't know what will is that the russian propaganda dr christina grier speaking about does that sound like someone telling people not to vote listen i'm not even mad at dr christina grier because i understand how this happens and this is what i want to say this morning fox news does a phenomenal job of pushing the narrative they want out there for example if i'm in an interview and i say president biden is an uninspiring candidate with no main character energy. If I get on this and I ask a question, is the Biden-Harris administration a ticket that can win in November? Because based off the low approval ratings, the low poll numbers, the fact Trump has 91 criminal charges, the fact Trump is a wannabe dictator.

But polls show he still might win a general election. If I ask, are they a ticket that can still win? Or if I say, you know, which I have, I think Biden should step aside for the good or good of the party because he himself said is 50 other people in the Democratic Party who could beat Trump. When I say those things in a conversation, Fox will take those clips and turn them into stories. They constantly push the narrative they want out there to the American people because using those clips reinforces the narrative they are pushing that black people are off Biden. If you ask me, I personally believe what my guy tim ryan believes in that there is an exhausted majority of people in america it's not about race gender sexuality nothing sexuality none of that okay it's just a bunch of us who are tired of it all

but i don't want to get sidetracked fox news does a phenomenal job of taking from these interviews what they want to push their narrative why doesn't the left do the same there's not one interviewer i don't want america about the dangers of a second trump presidency but instead of amplifying those things y'all follow the leader fox news that is y'all daddy because they are the cable news leaders okay y'all make y'all commentary about the headlines they create in regards to what i said salute the media.com kobe hall that my guy. Colby wrote a fantastic article once about me discussing how Fox News only highlights my criticism of Biden, but never about Trump. And by the way, my Biden commentary is not rooted in whether or not he's done things for black people or not. Have I expressed those things before?

Yes. But in this season, I'm asking a simple question. Is Biden Harris still a winnable ticket? I'm not saying nothing. David Axelrod hasn't said. I'm not saying nothing. Ezra Klein hasn't said. But y'all black political scientists and pundits y'all don't call them threats to democracy why because they white men you know that's why okay i i truly believe y'all

not mad about what i'm saying y'all just mad at me saying it i'm the hip-hop radio personality with no college degree no political experience what does he know the rapper killer mike is just a rapper, okay? The rapper Killer Mike and the hip-hop radio personality shouldn't be the one saying these things. And you know what? I feel so bad for Mike because Mike not even saying nothing, okay? This time last year, I was in the studio with Killer Mike

and our beautiful black wives and our good brother Lil Duval, and we was listening to the album that would go on to win Rap Album of the Year at the Grammys. Michael, okay? And Killer Mike said back then he was focusing on local politics in Atlanta and and in Georgia and he was focusing on his music he don't want to talk politics but the but the left gets so caught up in the conservative narrative that they took from Mike's two times he's spoken about politics over the last 30 days. Mike said on Bill Maher he didn't want to endorse anyone.

Okay? So they brought it back up on The View. Can I play just a little bit of what Mike said on Bill Maher before we get out of here? Play what he said. I still like the policy that the old man had that I was supporting. Bernie Sanders. I would encourage people to find who's supporting that policy and see what... Okay, now play what he said on The View.

That's all he got. You don't have The View clip in there? Huh? Nope. Oh, my God. Well, anyway, Mike says, I supported Bernie Sanders. You should support the candidate

most in line with progressive policies, the person who's more prone to work with progressives. He said on The View, I supported Keisha Lance Bottoms, who worked for the Biden administration, and I supported all these other Democrats in Georgia, and he named him, and he says you should follow and support the candidate they are supporting.

If I'm Bill Maher, if I'm Sonny on The View, I'm looking at the camera and saying, oh, that would be Joe Biden. This is why Fox News wins, because conservatives are just better at messaging. They put the narratives they want out there. And then the left debates and fights about Fox News narratives instead of simply creating their own. So it makes me wonder who y'all working for, because y'all hear us saying these things about Trump. You hear where we pushing people, which I don't amplify that. Y'all amplify our criticism of Biden. So who's really pushing propaganda? Please give all these folks pushing these false narratives about killing Mike and myself the biggest, y'all.

All right. Listen, black people, I promise you that you can criticize Democrats and still, you know, vote for them if you choose. You can criticize any elected official, Democrat or Republican, and still support them and vote for them if you choose. OK, and don't let nobody tell you otherwise. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey donkey today i should not have took 15 minutes i needed to get that out i'm not i need 16 i needed to lay it all out so if there was ever any confusion from anybody they can just go listen to that that's okay that's all all right stop lying well this weekend on lifetime uh they had the documentary for wendy williams where is wendy

williams if you've seen it let's discuss 800-585-1051 uh had her son on there her nephew her family her father uh her manager her publicist everybody but the guardian that's right i ain't never seen that lifelong friend i'm gonna tell y'all that too i ain't never seen that life i know lisa the lifelong friend i ain't never heard of the other person they had on there That's the one from California? Regina or something like that Maybe they are I never see them I know Lisa

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That's MichaelTheBull.com. And when you mess with the bull, you get the horns. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories,

their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself.

It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Had enough of this country?

Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that?

Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, I'm Madison Packer, a pro hockey veteran going on my 10th season in New York. And I'm Anya Packer, a former pro hockey player and now a full Madison Packers stan. Anya and I met through hockey, and now we're married and moms to two awesome toddlers, ages two and four. And we're excited about our new podcast, Moms Who Puck, which talks about everything from pro hockey to professional women's athletes to raising children and all the messiness in between. So listen to Moms Who Puck on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

podcasts. Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8th, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, and every single wig removal together. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.