The Breakfast Club - DONKEY: Judge Orders Man To Apologize Or Serve Jail Time For Being Rude To Cop

Episode Date: May 14, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.
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Starting point is 00:03:26 Tuesday, May 14th goes to the Ozark Police Department in Alabama. Now, if you haven't heard about this story, gather around. There is a man named Reginald Burks who is currently faced with a decision. He must either write an apology letter to a police officer because he cursed at the officer. And if he doesn't, he must serve up to 30 days in jail. Let's go to News 4 for the report please judge nicholas bull ordered burks to apologize to the officer who gave him a speeding ticket last december that's in addition to the 200 fine burke shelled out this week he believes that making burke say i'm sorry to the officer and burke's admits he used one bad
Starting point is 00:04:01 word violates his right to free speech according According to the federal cases, what has to happen is those words that he uses or someone uses has to incite violence. That's not the case in this situation. Harrison adds that Supreme Court cases support his interpretation of the law. Profanity-laced language does not violate the law. As for Burks, he stands firm in the belief that he was not wrong for what he said. But I told my mom I probably just gonna go up there and see if they gonna actually give me some time
Starting point is 00:04:33 for not 10 days or 30 days, whatever they wanna give me, for not writing an apology letter because I'm not writing an apology letter. I don't think now is really, I don't think it's necessary. All right, when the judge talks like this, you gonna go to jail if you don't do what the judge tell you to do. Now look, it's necessary all right when the judge talks like this you gonna go to jail if you don't do what the judge tell you to do now look it's tough being a black man in America and having to deal with law enforcement because the reality is in our minds every encounter with
Starting point is 00:04:53 police officers we just trying to survive and in the case of Reginald Burks is in the case of Reginald Burks personally I'm not cursing at the police officer I totally understand and respect the power dynamics in that situation. When we out in the field, out in the streets, as much as we want to say these officers work for us, they don't. Okay? They technically do because we are taxpaying citizens. But a lot of them don't act like it. And I am fully aware that I am dealing with a human who has the same pride and oftentimes wounded ego as anyone else. All right?
Starting point is 00:05:21 These police officers are human and some of them are narcissists, high conflict personalities, kids who were bullied in school and now they got a badge and they want to do the bullying, okay? I'm not saying this is all police officers. I'm just simply saying that I know there are plenty of people like the ones I'm describing in those uniforms. And guess what? I don't have time to determine who is who and what is what. I just want to get home. So if I'm Reginald Burke and the cop gets in front of my car and doesn't move and the cop tells me to go around, I'm going to probably just go around if I move at all. Because once again, in my mind, the way my anxiety set up, he's standing in front of my car telling me to go around.
Starting point is 00:05:55 But what if he decides to say, nope, he tried to hit me with his car and then he pulls out his gun and lights my ass up. That's the type of stuff we got to think about. One thing I'm not doing is insulting or antagonizing somebody with a gun, especially someone who is authorized to use that weapon if they simply feel threatened. So either I would have took my chances and just drove around like the officer told me to do, or I would have just sat there and told the officer straight up, look, I'm a little scared right now because of the way you are acting,
Starting point is 00:06:23 so I would rather sit here until you decide to move out the way but one thing i would not do is tell the police officer and this is what reginald said allegedly get your ass out the way so i can take my kids to school that's why y'all underpaid because y'all act dumb that right there isn't gonna do anything for anyone but cause problems but reginald did what he was supposed to do he went to court last month prepared to plead guilty paid the fine which was 211 22 cents but the judge told him he should write an apology to the officer for allegedly having cursed at him write the letter or serve 30 days in jail this is all ego if you ask me and this is exactly why you don't play with the law enforcement in the first place okay you
Starting point is 00:07:01 want me to stand at a chalkboard like bart Simpson and write out repeatedly I will not curse the officer I will not curse the officer I would not curse the officer now we all know judges have discretion in sentencing and can include things like requiring a defendant to apologize but does this punishment fit the crime I would say no 30 days in jail if I don't write a letter apologizing to this officer for telling him to move his ass out the way? You gotta charge me with disorderly conduct or something. You can't go from a $200 fine to me having to serve 30 days in jail if I don't write a letter of an apology? Ugh.
Starting point is 00:07:38 One of the roots of all evil is abuse of power. Please understand that. Please give the Ozark Police Department in Alabama the biggest hee-haw. I think this is abuse of power. All right. We should go to Breakfast Club Court again. What part you want to talk about? You want to talk about the fact that he said he's not writing a letter?
Starting point is 00:07:57 Yes. Or is this abuse of power? Well, I mean, it's all the same. So I'd like to hear from the people. If it was you in this situation, would you write the letter apologizing to the police officer or go potentially do 30 days in jail?
Starting point is 00:08:13 Where is this? In Alabama? Alabama! No. I'm saying I'm sorry. Want some food? Let me take you to dinner. No, I'm not going to jail. If it was in Baltimore, no. Yeah, I'm not going to jail. And if it was in Baltimore, no.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Yeah, I'm not going. I'm going to do my little 30 in Baltimore. I'll write that letter. I ain't going to jail for 30 days. I'm not going to their jail. Them Southern jails. Yeah. They ain't going to set me up in their jail.
Starting point is 00:08:34 They ain't going to be mad I didn't write the letter. I wouldn't want to go to jail anywhere for 30 days for something like this. But think about it. Let's say you don't write the letter. Now they mad you didn't write the letter. Now you're going in their jail. Now I got to make an example. Now they got to make an example of you. Boy, you going to listen, boy. That's say you don't write the letter. Now they mad you didn't write the letter. Now you going in their jail. Now I got to make an example of you, boy. Now they got to make an example of you.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Boy, you going to listen, boy. That's right. All right. You going to learn. Your kind going to learn to listen, boy. That's right. Okay. Next thing you know, you in the shower, taking a shower.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Yeah. And then what? Why? Why? Why? Tell me. Tell me more. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Well, let's open up the phone line. Yeah. Why? 585-1051. That's how you know you in the shower. Why you got to go to the shower as soon as
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Starting point is 00:09:25 MichaelTheBull.com. And when you mess with the bull, you get the horns. Wake that ass up. In the morning. The Breakfast Club. Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Listen to Escape from Zakistan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan. on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise
Starting point is 00:10:36 once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best, and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q War. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and
Starting point is 00:11:28 empowers all people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other. So join us each Saturday for Civic Cipher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, y'all. Niminy here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman, Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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