The Breakfast Club - DONKEY: Porsha Williams Dishes On Divorce, Nene Leakes, Kenya Moore Exiting RHOA + More

Episode Date: March 5, 2025

The Breakfast Club Sits down With Porsha Williams To Discuss Her Divorce, Nene Leakes, Kenya Moore Exiting RHOA. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Obscure, Invasion of the Drones, wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. favorite podcast Wake that ass up in the morning the breakfast club Morning everybody is DJ envy just hilarious Charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club long la Rosa filling in for Jess And we got a special guest in the building capital P. Horsha is back Porsche Williams. Welcome Are you feeling I'm feeling good? I was just saying coming here this time of the morning, this is it. This is 9, 10.

This is good for me. You can do that. You can't do the 5, 6 in the morning. The 5.30 you wasn't with. Yeah, when I was guest hosting with y'all. Yeah. Yeah, but I love you. Oh, I love you too.

I love you on this show. Why, with her name Lauren, like your sister? Yes. I love me a good Lauren. Lauren, Lauren. Yes. Lauren's are special people. They really are.

I was just saying this morning, how many I have. My assistant is Lauren. Lauren. We have another style is Lauren It's just Lauren's everywhere Lauren's everywhere rich Back on housewives. Yes, who would have thought three years away from the show and now I'm back It's really exciting to be honest with you, You know, like each season when it comes, you never know what to expect.

Like am I excited? I mean, it's like, you know, it feels like a job. But being away three years and coming back is really good for me because I get to see everybody who I had not seen on the show. You know, the fans are back, Housewife fans are back. And I don't know, it's just a big turn of events. You know, like when I first decided to come back to the show,

I was like happily married, like, oh, I'm about to really show y'all something, you know. Storyline gonna be extra popping. You post that Valentine's Day photo and was downhill from there. Okay, all that. You better have the documented Instagram post. But yeah, it was like that. But as life is, you know, turn of events, it's not always perfect. And so by the time we started filming,

that's when the real storyline started. So what happened now though, cause you get a lot of money for shit. It's not like you need to be on Real Housewives of Atlanta. God has, you know what, God has really been good to me. Three years away from reality TV. I saw you know somebody getting money. God has been good to me. He's been good. Really good to me. years away from reality TV. You know somebody getting money. God has been good to me.

He's been good. Really good to me. Okay, in spite of, okay. But no, you know, I have a certain relationship with my fans. I've been doing a show for 10 years and they're really not fans. I call them supporters because they've been with me through everything, a divorce, giving birth to Pilar on TV, like ups and downs of life. And so, you know, I really felt like at the time it was gonna be great to share my life, my happily married life, you know.

But one thing about me and my fans, do respect I'm transparent. So even though it didn't turn out the story that I wanted to share, I still was open with what I had. I was saying before you walked in and your team I'm gonna tell you to don't forget your coat pull it down. It shifts up

Yeah, but wait before you walked in I was saying that I've never met you before but from Instagram to the show You just seem like my homegirl like I want to drink with you. I want to party with you I know so much about you because you are very transparent. Mm-hmm I remember when you did the family like the family series family mat Yeah, it was kind of similar where you were so excited to show things and then it just went left and now we're here with the marriage stuff. Well, I tend to put different mixes in the soup. Maybe I can't cook because why would I have put my fiance and my baby daddy on the same

show? So yeah, but it makes for great TV. I mean, even the time I had away from TV, my sister and I will always say, damn, we wish it was cameras here. You know what I mean? Because it's just away from TV my sister and I will always say damn who she was cameras here You know what I mean? Because it's just some people are just like that And I've always been a type person to use my life as a testimony, right? So even though it's difficult for people to show their lives and talk about it I get healing from it, you know from meeting people to say I can't relate to that

I made some crazy mistakes in love to or Or I believed a Negro one time too. Like, girl, that all helps you process things. So let's, I want to know, let's start with the divorce, right? Oh, let's do it. People automatically. Right. Top of the morning. People assumed it was infidelity,

but you know, in the first episode, you talk about you would go to the airport and you would always get pulled to the side. And you got to the point, you was like, why the hell do we keep getting pulled to the side? Right, right, right. Did you call ICE on Simon? No, no it doesn't benefit me at all for him to be locked up. Mentally and financially it doesn't benefit me. You know just because you're going through a divorce doesn't mean you hate someone.

I hate actions, I hate lies, I hate a lot of characteristics, but I love the person, you know And I would never wish harm on anybody and at the end of the day, I know that he's the type person He's a slithering snake. He's gonna find his way out of it. I'm sure he'll be fine You know and I pray for him his family and I hope they all figure it out But um, but you caught but he but I called him you know, you called him a snake but the snake got you Yeah, they do they get around you know, hold real real tight. They hold real real tight. But that's also me. I mean I love love and when I meet someone I'm a cancer and when I meet someone who reciprocates that nothing else really matters. It's how you make me

feel. I'm very intentional so if your intentions towards me feel authentic and it feels real I'm gonna trust that. And that's just how I live my life experience. I do wanna say to Portia, you are a beautiful woman. Thank you. So I can see why a man would wanna be in this country illegally to be with you. So do you feel like it's kind of your fault?

Just a little? Ah, I think it's the country's fault. I think he's having a whole issue that started before I was even born. I think it's the country's fault. I think he's having a whole issue that started before I was even born, that unfortunately, it's just come to the shit didn't hit the fan. It just is what it is. It's just going forward.

So where is it at right now? Because the last reports were like he's detained, the citizenship was denied. So where is he physically? And what is happening right now? So I only know as much as you guys know, and as much as what's online As far as I know they've been posting that he's still being detained. So in Georgia

I'm not sure I haven't looked into it that much I just know I'm trying to finish my divorce and I can't do that if I don't have a person to divorce Yeah, well, you know he wanted to have our last court date, which was just a couple of weeks ago. He asked for it to be in person. I didn't want it to be in person because I knew this whole thing. You know, when I got enlightened about the whole thing.

So you did call us. No, I knew that he already had a peculiar situation with the United States of America. And so it wasn't gonna benefit me or him for it to be in person. We had already done a year's worth of the divorce over zoom. So why in person? Why are you fighting for that? Girl, you would have showed up looking just like that too. Who me? Of course. Oh, well, you know, you got to give them that last look.

You would have. Damn. Wow. Now I don't want the divorce. Now you also found that he didn't want you to record in the house? Yes, yes. So I did. But it was your house? Yes, our house. So I mean I know he's explained it a thousand different ways online. He has documented our entire divorce on the Simon show online and then I have the housewives, I suppose. But yeah, there is paperwork in place that would make it a marital property 50-50 split. Outside of that being enforced,

it is a premarital property or whatever. But you know, I am on the other side of this. Like, we've been divorcing now through this process for a whole year. And you know, I've emotionally, it's caught up with what I had to do. So like emotionally, I feel like I'm ready to be done with it. I'm ready to heal, ready to move on.

But you know, here comes the reality show. So here's the part of my life where it gets interesting. I'm done with the divorce, but I had to deal with it, all the darkness on camera. Oh wow. So it comes right back. Yeah, and so now it has to come back. So now I have to be super prayed up. I have to be super vigilant of who's around me,

of energies. I have to be very protective of my peace at this point, because I know what I'm getting into. More than any other season, this season could affect me more than any other season. And girl, this is your season. I mean, you've always been, like you, Kenya, Nini, Candy, y'all are the OG girls.

But right now, I think we're all excited because you have been away from the show. We know that Kenya eventually exits. Nini's not there, Candy's not there. So it's like, we are looking for you to bring back how it used to feel. So there's so many eyes and people are gonna critique you so much.

So what's the daily mantra with filming? Because these girls are not, they're not always gonna give you that protective piece that you're talking about Well, no, cuz I just met a couple of them So, you know for me I came back into this kind of feeling brand new not gonna lie Like three years is a really long time from having cameras in your life on a daily basis. I was looking into the damn camera lens for most of the time. Like I was getting stumbling over words. It was like brand new Porsche all over again. And then I just said, you know what? I talked to the producer. So this was collaborative. Me coming back, a big part of

me coming back was collaborative. We had conversations, my husband or estranged husband and production about how I wanted to be and how I asked them to be was completely honest. I asked them, can I break the fourth wall? Fourth wall on reality TV is saying I'm late because I had to film at my mom's house because it's a season to sit on my crib. You know what I'm saying? So I told them, I said, listen, the only way I can do this is to just speak my truth and be 100% honest. You can edit what you gotta do later. But for me to get through this at this dark time

and losing like my person, I have to be as honest as I possibly can. And they agreed to that. And I feel like they stuck with that. You know, I gotta see the show, but I feel like they stuck to letting me just live authentically. So.

Did you see the first episode? I did see the first episode, I did. What did you think? Cause I feel like they got you walking into BS. Yeah. Like they show this whole grand thing and you're working on this, you're going to the attorney, you're doing everything.

Yeah. Then you walk right into the bullshit. Yeah. My girl was like, Kelly. Yeah, Kelly. It's like, why did she say that lady's man? Right. Husband, or whatever. I mean. I'm just playing who Kelly is for people that don't know the bullshit. Yeah. Kelly. It's like, why does she say that lady's man? Right. Husband.

Whatever. I mean, Kelly is one of the new girls. She owns a waffle business. And yeah. That's all I can remember. So she, I mean, listen. Real Housewives of Atlanta has never really let brand new people, possible fans of the show, be Housewives for a season. They normally play friends for a little bit, then become a Housewife.

So when you have people who, she can be queen bee of wherever she's from, but you still feel like you have to act a certain way to be on Housewives. And I think that's what that moment was. Because at the end of the day, who doesn't know the story of me and Simon? Who doesn't know what actually really happened with that enough to say who stole who? Who stole what? Like, you know, so I just felt like

she was wanting to have a moment and I was dismissive of it. Like, she's a little delayed. Wasn't that wack of the producers too though? No, that's what I'm trying to tell you. So this season, the producers did not overproduce us. They really didn't. They had to from the start.

No, no, it really wasn't. Like she felt that way. She felt like she wanted to ask me that and she wanted to have a moment, but you look wack doing that. And she eventually straightens up. But you know, she had to, you know, as a new girl, she coming in thinking, I ain't gonna make an am, I'm gonna come for Porta Shai.

It doesn't seem like you two find over still after she straightened up, by the way. We have a love and hate relationship. We have like the, we have, we are literally like, what is it, oil and water? Oil and vinegar. Is it vinegar too? Maybe they don't none of them match.

But baby, me and her, we kind of up and down with it. It's not hateful. So y'all make up. Because during that little party, you were like, I don't want to say little party, but during that party, you was kind of like... I don't know what it's going to look like. I think she and I argue a lot, but I don't know if it's going to look as hateful as my arguments have been in the past.

If you've known my history on the show when, why I keep on a cuss so much this morning? Is it this outfit? I feel like I'm off. We're bitches. We're bitches. No, I'm not. I know in my history on the show when, why I keep on a cuss so much this morning? Is it this outfit? I feel like I'm off. Like we're bitches. We're bitches. No, when people, when women used to come to me on the show, I used to beef with them the whole season

and it got so dark. This season does not go that dark. We have funny moments. We talk about each other. We kiki and yes, we argue, but other, we key key, and yes we argue, but it's not enough to break sisterhoods. Gotcha. I saw Dr. Simone Whitmore call you a mean girl.

Why she say that about you, capital P? You so nice. I don't know, I don't know. I couldn't really understand what she was saying. I think Simone is reaching that straws. I mean, I don't know. I think Simone is full of it, just like that piece of doo doodoo she had on her head.

Like, she just... She, to me, she on her show, sometimes when you're on reality TV, right, she's an OB-GYN. She started on the show, and, you know, she was a regular person, and now on the camera. Sometimes when you start lacking in story, you start lacking as a person individually,

you start just reaching and coming at bitches who are on point. So she's lacking. So when people lack, they start just reaching and coming at bitches who are on point, so she's lacking. So when people lack, they try to deflect and come to you. I've never even met this person. I wasn't mean though. You've never even met her? I've never even met her.

Wow. But I've never met her. I will say, I think a lot, even if you've never met her, because of, it's been a lot of seasons of Real Housewives of Atlanta, and we all feel like we know you guys, or maybe that's what she felt. I don't think you give me I definitely get what a bit like you can you can you hold your own if you knock on my buck Yeah, you definitely do but that's all Porsche. I take that back. I don't do that no more right Lauren

Somebody's in you bucks. That's actually of God Self-preservation you got to defend yourself. You have to defend yourself. She going to use that in a question. I just like remember that real quick. That was a God. No, I think Mean Girl is when you have a cast member who had a death in their family and you are still hard on them.

Sometimes you got to know when someone needs a hug and not a lecture. And Simone does not have that sense at all. I just feel like she has been very mean and a little bit evil to some of her castmates. Yeah, I didn't get mean girl from the first episode. I got late. You was late. I was late. I was late. But I didn't get mean girl. I try not to be late, but again, logistics,

behind the scenes, things that you will see and things you don't know. I had to film at my mom's house because I couldn't film in my house at the time. And she lives out in Duluth, baby, and that was on a Friday in the rain. So wait, before we go to your question, you're talking about filming at your mom's house

in the house because I saw online that you, so you weren't awarded sole possession of the house. So I was. But you still can't film there. So I was. So no, here's the thing. I could film, I could do what I want in my house. I could film like a whole porno't film there. So I was. So no, here's the thing. I could film. I could do what I want in my house. I could film like a whole point on my house. I can do what I want. Right. I know I had none in a while. So I just think about

it. But okay, so I can do what I want in my house. However, he sent the cease and desist to Bravo. So when he sent that to Bravo, they don't wanna play with that. So I needed to get a separate document that said, I can film in the house to give to them so they don't have to worry about him harassing them with legal things. Right, gotcha. But can he send anything legally

being that he's here illegally? Let me Google that. I'm not an immigration attorney. Yeah. I don't know. But if he has an attorney, he can send whatever he wants. But I would think everything he sends is null and void. Yeah, but, brah, I'm sure don't want to fight that.

Well, let's hope so. I want to ask you about the Simone thing, because she said, I think she was, if I'm not mistaken, correct me, Lauren, she was saying that Phaedra left Herschel to come back with you. Yeah, because they freaking frack. So it's like now the reunion of them as a friend, she was basically saying that- Freaking fracking over there to check was whack. Like Housewives played very well.

Because I was going to ask you that because Phaedra comes in later in the season. I'm like, was that switched because what? Did you need the friend or like did this? It's the money thing. We always need Phaedra. I don't give a damn. We always need the legends of Real Housewives of Atlanta. There's just certain situations to where we can't have some of them back.

But if there was a where there's a will, there's way. I wanted to have Fajor back. The cast wanted Fajor back and Bravo wanted her back in her home on Housewives. So what's Fajor's Bravo this check over here on Housewives looking like because she left the whole other show. Well she done made that check and cashed it already. You can worry about a check you done already cashed. No. She done cashed that check. She coming to get this check. Heard you. Mm-hmm. Damn. That answers your question?

Checks everywhere. You said they what? Checks are everywhere. Oh yeah. Everywhere. Now how tight are you and Drew? Drew? You know what, Drew, some people you just realize, okay, you just a little.

Is she still an ambassador of Go Naked Hair? Absolutely not. Okay. Go Naked Hair is Portia's hair brand. I can't put my hair on people's head and then they think they're me. Like that's what I can't do. Like that's what we not. Okay. Go-neck and hair is Portia's hair brand. I can't put my hair on people's head and then they think they're me. That's what I can't do. That's what we're not going to do. You don't become Portia by wearing Portia's hair.

You need to just enjoy my hair, take it out when it's dirty, and put it in back in when it's clean. You can't just like all that. She's a okay person, I think, for a lot of her friends. I think they love her. I think they trust her. I think if you're not her friend, you shouldn't trust her and you shouldn't be around her okay so with you saying you shouldn't trust her you shouldn't be

around her and she is not wearing go-necked hair anymore you were not at all and I saw it kind of in the first episode you're not happy about the allegations that she might be in a relationship or whatever with Dennis your ex see this why I like breakfast club you ask the question that need to be answered okay so here's the thing. On the show, I don't know how it's gonna come off again because the show has to sensationalize things, right? So how good is it for me to be going through a divorce

and I'm still jealous about my baby daddy? That's BS, right? So in real life, she actually was trying to film with him behind my back. And when you are- He's a music producer, right? That's what it said on the show. He's a music producer, right?

Yeah, when you start that question. He's whatever he say he is. Okay, right. Yes, he is. He is a serial entrepreneur and apparently a music producer. Music producer, right? Okay. But she was trying to film with him behind my back

and that's just not cool. Come on, we housewives. Well, we filmed him on the show as a- Filmed with him on Housewives! So it's just not cool, right on. Fill him on Housewives. Fill him on Housewives. So it's just not cool, right? It felt like a setup for me in some way. And then also there was a Go Naked photo shoot. She was trying to set up without me knowing anything about.

I have to prove everything. Some of them fits. It's not fitting for you. Right. So, or some of them looks may not be given the look. So I would like to, as the owner of the company, be a part of any of that. So when those two things were happening behind my back, on my business, with my business, on my show,

yeah, I have a problem with you. So you didn't know Drew was recording with Dennis. You didn't know anything. You didn't know that they were speaking. You didn't know that they were talking. No, I'm holding hands, allegedly. And so that first episode. Holding hands at a club.

That's what they said on the episode? I didn't know any of that. So you found out right then that episode. What's so funny, I saw the episode, and she was like, she asked him, and I said yes. And she talked to me, and I said yes. And I'm like, that's just not true. Like, I genuinely didn't know.

Look, at the end of the day, like I told Shamia, if Drew and Dennis want to get together, I just hope she can do baby hair for Pilar. Like, I'm happy with Drew. I think she's a great parent. I think if him and her were to get together, and, you know, they can have a solid relationship, that's good, too.

Just don't screw me where you asked me to come back to be. She had been asking me to come back to Housewives, and when I came back, this is what you had waiting on me, this whack storyline that y'all came up with. Oh, so I see what you're saying now. If it was real, you wouldn't have a problem with it. Of course not. I've never got...

Listen, everybody knows Dennis and I have a great co-parent relationship. And it is strictly because his personal life is his personal life and mine is mine. So he didn't say nothing to you at all either. You found out on the show, so y'all didn't have no conversation. No, he ain't gonna tell me because he can benefit

off me finding out on the show. Surprise! Surprise, surprise! That's what he ain't gonna tell me because he can benefit off me finding out on the show. Surprise! Surprise, surprise! That's what he would know. I thought you and Dennis was homies though to the point where like he would have called you like, yo P, this is what's happening. Like y'all seem like y'all have that really like a friendship still, no? Not about his personal life.

Oh wow. Yeah, not about his personal life. Now I found he is the one who called and invited me to her birthday party. That's what I was like, that's a little bit Kaleer. Like, why are it invited me to her birthday party. That's what I was like That's a little bit killier. Like why are you inviting me to her birthday party? You know, I called her and I was like, oh I can't come You know, I was like but Dennis invited me. Oh, yeah. I forgot to tell you about Dennis. Yeah, we're working together You still love this cool. Yes Yeah, not like, you know, please don't take that sound bite like that I mean yes, as in that's my daughter's father and I want the absolute best for him.

But do you love him like still let him sweat on you? You should have said sling hot dogs. Sweat on me? No, no, no. I can't even, and you know, this has been a period of time, I've been divorcing a year, you know, and a lot of people move fast, even in their divorce time. I just don't see him in that way. I just don't.

And I think because, it's because of Pilar, you don't play with that. You know, I'm already going through a divorce and she's already, you know, losing someone who she called a stepdad, papa, et cetera. I don't wanna play with her seeing me and her father be in a relationship and then break up. That's not responsible for me.

So the love I have for her just causes me not even to be attracted to him in that way at all. Because I just don't... We have so many ups and downs. Our relationship can be toxic at times. And I just don't want to enter into that space with him. You have a great relationship parenting, co-parenting. We have a good co-parenting. Well, I am single right now.

So we're going to see how it works out when I get somebody. Is that hard to find somebody, though, Portia, because you are so high profile? Who, for who, me? Yeah, for you. Because you're high profile, you on TV, people may not want to be, they may not want their life involved in that.

True. So certain caliber of people. I do tend to attract a lot of opportunists. want their life involved in that? True. So certain caliber of people. I do tend to attract a lot of opportunists. So yes, the people who probably are opportunists and who are in their own lane, doing their own thing, and don't want to part of anything I have going on, probably tend to skew away from trying to date me, which

is the downside of being a reality star. But I just feel like at the end of the day right now, I can't even think about that. Like I can't even imagine me like being with someone else right now because I still have the energy of my husband around me. So when that's done, I think maybe the atmosphere will be like her king is coming.

So do you have to get a complete? Not an African, huh? Not an African king. But wait. You gotta get a complete? Not an African king. Huh? Not an African king. But wait. You gotta get a complete? I just wait. No, I love African men.

I was gonna say because, you know. I was just wondering. Back in January. I know girl, she got that top girl. That girl, that girl. You know how to follow somebody girl. You better follow me girl. Back in January, there was a video of you and the Nigerian guy.

I don't know how you say his name, Farouk. Farouk. Farouk. So that's not Bay? No, none at all. Was it Bay then? No, so the culture in Nigeria, you know, Nigeria is a great place. First of all, everybody should visit Nigeria. But when you are from outside of Nigeria and you come to Nigeria, it's best to have a host

who is there, who knows everywhere you need to go? Buckhead cannot be safe sometimes. Places in Nigeria may not be as safe sometimes for women on their own. So when I took Phaedra, I had a host. He was our host. So yes, I knew at the end of the day when I saw on our vlogs, I was like, I can't help them thinking that because I am with him for breakfast. I'm gonna be with him at dinners. We're gonna go to lounges. We're at all the clubs because he is the person who is showing me around everywhere. And it was a kiss on the cheek too. He kissed all his friends on the cheek.

He had a lot of friends he was kissing on cheek. I'm just saying that's why the people was like, oh, this is her man. Yeah, but you know, I'm not that young anymore. I can't really be the type of girl that see you with other women. Like once I lock on you, we locked in. So, you know, he's still young

and he's still doing his thing. He's one of the big guys out there, but I don't share. It's interesting to see that narrative, because I think at one point, especially when you first met Dennis on the show, they tried to make it seem like you were just like this careless, like dating whoever, whenever, whatever type of person. And it sounds like now you as a mom and where you are now, it's like a lot more protective of your space, especially because of your kids

I'm interested to see how that plays out on the show. You know, it's unfortunate We want women to be soft. We want women to be open to love We want women to love love and give men a chance but the women who do that we get beat on they drag you Yeah, you know everybody's upset with like a JLo or Kim Kardashian or Elizabeth Taylor But we want men who treat us well We want men who are gonna love us and who we believe we can love back But why isn't why are we empowered to be able to walk away if it's not right, right? So wouldn't that mean I would be dating or be with multiple people over my life?

So, you know, it's it's rough as a woman out here You just have to have thick skin and trust yourself and make good decisions If I was dating somebody and that was my guy trust me Everybody knows everybody knows I will claim him, post him, and all of that and make you sick about it. But every relationship don't have to be public either though. It doesn't, it doesn't, but you know I don't know I guess it's the cancer in me or the Nigerian in me. Like I'm loud with it. Like if I love you, I want everybody to know, you know. So I'm really gonna have to talk to my therapist because I think my next one should be quiet

You said something that was interesting you said that you can't get the energy of Simon off you What makes you get the energy of a person off you like Lauren got saved your sister got the same She could she could but you know this divorce it's gonna take some time It's gonna take time to the, our relationship was so sensationalized that I don't think they saw it as a real relationship, but I genuinely did love my husband and I had all kind of plans. If you have ever been married

on a long-term relationship, everything you do, you're considering that person. They're a part of it. So everything I'm still doing, I'm having to piece him out of it, you know, and I'm still in our home. I would like to redecorate or do whatever, but I got to still wait to see what's gonna happen with that. He and I will stop talking about Simon. This is natural. You

wrote this is true. You mean I don't know. We don't even know what is I don't know it is handy. What does it say? I don't know. Is this real? We don't even know what this is. I don't know, they just handed me that. Let me see it. What does it say? This can't be real. They just handed me that, I have no idea. Oh wow.

Okay, so, Lauren, look at that. What is happening? We need to, you need to call, you need to call. Yeah. sorry. I'm just playing. I made that up. That's what is it saying? I was like, I was gonna let it go. I was gonna let it go until you said you were gonna call. It's saying my dad's gonna push us. I was like, yo.

So let me tell you what the letter said. I was scared to. I thought it was my dad. I really didn't know what it said. So here's the letter. So what Charlemagne put together. And let me tell you before the interview, he didn't tell none of us, right? I thought it was something with me. We just seen him laughing and giggling so we knew he was up to something. But he even playing the guitar.

And he was like, I'm gonna tell you what the letter said. And he was like, And let me tell you before the interview he didn't tell none of us right? I thought it was something with me. We just see him laughing and giggling so we knew he was up to something But he even planned it cuz he has somebody walk it in the letter says the Porsche I kept it just in case, because I thought he was going to do something to me. I knew he was playing at something. What is this ball egg for? I was going to throw it at him. Throw it at him. You play too much, man.

Throw it. Matter of fact, slice it in half and throw both halves. You play too much. This guy is crazy. You play too much. You play too much. Don't throw that egg. It's going to mess up.

You should have seen your face. You look like you about to cry. You got scared for a hot second. Because this is, I don't know, this is, this, you know, people online, of course, they're making jokes like, oh, you know, she called or whatever This is like a person who I have shared a life with I don't want nothing to happen to him I don't want I don't even want him to port it like at the end of the day

Mr. Mental health just threw you off Somebody could you look like you like, do you know what I'm doing? I don't know what's going on. You're disrupting my peace. You're all about protecting peace. I really thought something happened to somebody because you look like you were about to cry. Yeah. All right, woo-sah, woo-sah. That's crazy, man. Back to the show, back to the show.

There was a lot of men that were happy that that happened to him, though. They were? Yes. Because of how he feel about you. Because they want to holler. Well, and that's the scary part about being online, like going in on a personality that people actually like you don't know who could have done anything

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and in many ways. And so it's hard for me to trust. It's hard for me to like truly love. And so people will look at him and look at me and be like, I don't understand the correlation. It must be the money. How? I already had a lot of the stuff that I have now.

Then anyway, it was meeting someone who really saw you for you, who you can talk to, who was a man in their word. He always did things that I felt made him trustworthy for me. If somebody says something and they do it, say it, do it, say it, do it. Why would I think?

I would have never believed any of this stuff. Like I stood 10 toes down to the very, very end, but you know, I worked very hard in my life for what I have. I worked to protect my daughter's future, her financial future, her emotional future, everything. And at the time, I needed to do that in order to protect that.

Not saying it couldn't have been turned around if we had better communication, but at that time, I had to do it. Had to stand on it. If he would have told you what the situation was, you would have? I begged. I had to do it. Had to stand on it. If he would have told you what the situation was, you would have... I begged. I begged to tell me.

I literally begged. When did you find out? What was the time line? My sister's sitting right here. She knows nothing could have made me leave Simon. He was my person. And he probably is. He's just not honest enough to stand next to me.

He probably was scared to tell you because he thought she was going to leave. Yeah, I can love him from afar. Did he have that conversation? Why? Why he didn't say it? Yeah. Well, if you're the type of person, I mean, if you're not telling even yourself the truth,

how you gonna tell me? What was the timeline? You said you begged, so like how many, before you filed for divorce, how long was it that you were like trying to have these conversations, trying to get out of them, trying to just be like, yo, I wanna know what's happening. Like, I wanna save this, how long was it that you were like trying to have these conversations trying to get out of them trying to be like yo I want to know what's happening like I want to save this I want to figure it out.

Well I didn't just it was the accumulation of things it wasn't just oh I found out that you could be deported because at the end of the day I was telling my people I can take the kids wherever he is like I'm a ride or die I can take them wherever you are I love to travel anyway we love to travel it's not necessary for him to be here right and honestly I thought we had enough money where we could live in Dubai we could live wherever so being the port and wasn't That the deal breaker it was the other things about his past that I didn't know about it was things I was beginning to be involved in that could have had me in trouble clank clank So I just felt like this is something I need to do

until maybe this will trigger you. Sometimes women or men will file for divorce to trigger the truth out of their spouse because for whatever reason, they don't think they can tell them. But you almost wanna say, well, you'll lose me if you don't. You'll lose me if you don't tell me. And in this case, it still wasn't enough.

Also, when you first initially filed for divorce, you just wanted him to tell you the truth. I just wanted the truth. Wow. I wanted to know what was happening. You can figure out, from my first marriage, I learned that a partnership is something that you can take for life.

You know that with your wife and with your wife. If you have a partner standing next to you, you can fight and deal with anything. Forget love, just the fact that both of you guys are in the midst of it together. But as soon as I realized in my first marriage that I was not a partner, I was underneath, I was with someone who wasn't gonna be

everything I needed them to be as a partner, or see me as a partner, I knew that in this relationship I wasn't gonna do that. I would never have gotten married again if I thought him and I were not best friends, side by side partners. I honestly wish in a different realm I could be sitting here fighting for him

as opposed to fighting him. You know, a divorce is like a death in the family. And for me, who wants to experience that? But now, I wanna go Kenye Moore. The fact that she was taken off the show. What are your thoughts on that whole incident that happened? On the whole incident that happened, I think it is. I think it just went too far.

I feel like Kenya came back this season and she definitely well, not even this season, because I don't know what she was doing the past three because I didn't see it. But the Kenya that I saw this season was not wanting beef and drama too much. She really wasn't on too much of that. Like you can even see that in the first episode. She really kind of chill with it.

Not her normal self. And I just felt like mixed with the newbie and some things that were said that were dangerous from the newbie, I felt like Kenya then decided to be even more dangerous. And, but I do feel like there's a space where there could be a conversation with her in Bravo. I feel like there could be a conversation with her in Brit. And hopefully they can figure something out by next season. What happened on when y'all shot the upshard?

Cause we had Nini up here and she said you blocked her from being on the upshaws. No, she did it. She did the show. Oh, you wouldn't do it with her? So no, it's not that I wouldn't do it with her. So I signed on to do the upshaws and I had just filed, I think, could have even been a week and a half prior.

So you know how you sign up. So mind y'all, when I filed for divorce, I did not know I was filing for divorce. I was happily in love with my husband. Like we were good. Valentine's Day we had a horrible argument. Things got really nasty and I knew something was about to hit the fan.

But I did not know. So when it happened, I had already signed up to do the show and I really couldn't cancel at that point. So when I got there, I just was sitting in the green room or the waiting area and I just like start breaking down. I just start breaking down and then I started, then she was in the room next to me and I heard just hearing her voice broke me down

because I just felt you and when you're going through the voice you just feel so alone and here I am just a foul coming out of my room I mean I could barely put on makeup and now here I am on a set with strangers I don't have anybody just hearing her voice just it was just too familiar and you know I had not talked to her I didn't know how I could face her I didn't know how I could face anybody so it genuinely wasn't me saying. I didn't know how I could face her. I didn't know how I could face anybody. So it genuinely wasn't me saying, no, I don't work with this person or that person whomever,

because I agreed to it. I just wasn't capable of doing it that day. Mentally and emotionally. Mentally and emotionally. I could not gather myself at all. So when I spoke to them, they were like, I understand you're not gonna be able to act as a housewife today.

They ended up letting me go home. And then they said, we'll fill you in. We'll fill in your spot with Cynthia. And then after that, in true nanny fashion, she just turned it into something about herself. And it genuinely wasn't about her. It was about me. You know what I'm saying? Like her actions of like taking Simon's side and hanging out with him with women or whatever they were doing It just really was null and void to me. I just would have wanted a friend

So it you know for her to turn it and make it like I tried to block her money or whatever me block Nene's money how like Nene's a star. I can't block your money. Just like nobody can block mine. I'll give them who you are So it's to me. It's just unfortunate. I'm I'm too grown I'm sure you I can see I'm a different Portia if I was another person I'm a pretty reading her and her wig or whatever but I I don't feel that way like I feel like we grown people girl you know how it is to go through a divorce you know exactly what emotions I could have been feeling so all the extraness is just not needed I only want real she said that portion wasn't here for her, right?

Portia wasn't there for her when she was going through, when she was grieving? That's not true. I was out of town and flew in for her husband's funeral. No, I'm there for my friends. I don't think she said that. And if she said that, I think she would retract that, because that's just not true.

I'm always there for her, maybe even more than she was there for me. I didn't get a phone call from her when I got, when she saw on the news about my divorce. You know, she was with him, which is fine. Because in a divorce, you're gonna pick a side. You're gonna pick a side. We had a lot of friends as a couple.

I'm an introvert, but as a couple, we were extroverts. We were out there. We had, you know, we would hang out with couples and travel with couples. But, you know, and so then when it breaks up, you can't, I can't judge if she wanted to go over there. Who knows? She may think he right and I'm wrong.

It is what it is. How was your relationship? I know Shamir is your best friend, but how was that dynamic, right? Because, you know, I seen on the show, she was like your ex or your husband, your ex-husband I should say, texts her. How is it that it still stays in the system?

That gotta be a problem. I don't know where that text came from to her or her calling him bro. I don't know. I don't know. But at that time of going through a divorce, I don't even have the mind space to think about it. Like, you really think I'm going to go home and think about,

huh, why was he texting her and congratulating her and she calling him bro? Like, no. You are literally just walking through life. Like you are getting up, going through your day. And honestly, a part of the show is work, y'all. Like it's work. So I'm clocked in.

I'm not sitting there, you know, thinking she's trying to do anything to me, thinking anything behind any of it. I don't think she was trying to do it. I just, it just got to be a constant reminder. Like I'm trying to get my own space. Like, leave that on the other side, you know? But I'm on a show that's about my life. So I am expecting them to talk about it.

I am expecting them to ask me about my divorce and him. And I am expecting that. So that was totally fine. Are y'all, like, at this point, what are you, are you and Shemeah as close as we've always known y'all to be? Because the first episode kind of gives that, you know, Shemeah is now coming into herself on the show, and there might be a little bit of tension because of that.

There was a moment where she's like, okay, like, this is my new car, girl. Get to the left. It's not about you right now. Yeah, that was... And that was a little weird. I was like, ooh, I ain't never really seen that from Shemeah in Fortune. Yeah, it was weird, but also, you know, it's the whole environment.

I mean, in true housewife fashion, who doesn't love to talk crap about the person who's late and make them look bad or whatever? No one knew the reason why I was really late. I mean, I didn't get to tell her till we were in the closet while I was late. And at the end of the day, I did walk up while she was enjoying her car,

but in my brain, as my best friend, I'm like, oh, we both about to twerk on the car. Like, bitch, you finally did it. Like, you got that Rolls Royce. Like, so I like, oh, we both about to twerk on the car. Like, bitch, you finally did it. Like, you got that Rolls Royce. Like, so I thought, you know how you go to a party and you're like, I don't want to miss them getting a birthday song. I don't want to miss them cutting the cake.

Yeah. So the production was trying to tell me, Portia, hold on. Don't walk up to her while she's doing. I said, no, no, no, no, I want to I want to miss her getting her car. Yeah. But I can see how it came off like, of course the other girl, she's walking in her moment, walking in her moment, that's my friend. I root for her regardless. I mean, when I didn't have or when she didn't have whatever, I want the best for her. I'm happy for everything that she has.

So now that you guys have gone through this season or whatever, is the relationship still the same though? Because it's just a very, like what conversations do y'all have after a moment like that? Cause I've never seen that dynamic. Well, you have to understand, like I just said, I was oblivious to how the narrative was being painted. Oh, so that's a conversation happening right now probably.

I knew I was late, but I knew I was late because I filmed in Duluth. Yeah. And there was a camera crew with me. One like I was just somewhere lollygagging, I was working. And I knew that when I filmed in Duluth. Yeah. There was a camera crew with me. One like I was just somewhere lollygagging. I was working. And I knew that when I got there, I didn't want to miss her big moment,

because I got there just in time. So I didn't understand that. I now see the narrative of, oh, Portia being late trying to steal her moment. Why on earth would I bring my friend to the show or encourage the show to bring her in this moment as the main character and not be happy for it. I think the show is trying to pitch y'all against each other.

Yeah, that's what it's given. Well, that is a definitely a storyline. We're going to see what it gives, but- Even with Kelly, what, that's the name, Kelly? Kelly. Kelly was made that funny remark in front of, like, I feel like they're trying to pitch y'all against each other. You can't let them make you the punching bag all season.

Yeah, but she's the girl that's let them make you the punching bag all season. But she's the girl that's, like, it's her season. So she's down for the comfort. And not even just I'm that girl or queen of show, whatever, I like those accolades. But no, it's- You get two peaches? I get two peaches.

I'm standing up in the middle like this. No, but it's like, I feel like at the end of the day, I'mma bet you gonna have to come and come at the Top Dog. I mean, I'm sure they're gonna come at Kenya just like they did. They're gonna come at Phaedra. You gotta come at the OGs. It is what it is.

It's just the name of the game. It's just I feel like in TV, it's hard because you have your reality of what's happening real time, then you film it and then you probably get real time, then you film it, and then you probably get over it, and then you watch it again. And some things could be hurtful. The editing could be hurtful. Things could look dismissive. Things can look like what it's not really is.

So... Have you had to call her and do what you just did and be like, yo, taking accountability? I didn't even know it could come off that way. I apologize if it did. Like, are y'all doing that at this point? Because you're watching it back now. Generally, it wasn't that big of a deal to that way I apologize if it did like are y'all doing that at this point cuz you're watching it back Really it wasn't that big of a deal to see right gotcha

It really wasn't maybe it was by the time she got to her confessional and they start asking her to probe and question right But at the time there was no feeling no bad vibe about me being late. This is my friend She knows exactly where I'm filming as you know, I can't feel my career. You know, she know what's being blocked over here I'm just trying I'm just happy that they still filming my ass at the end of the day. Cause how you filming a housewife without a house? So I'm just thankful and grateful to Bravo and to all the other girls for stepping up.

I'm glad that her moment was so huge. I love that the way they showed it, they really showcased her. I love that because on an ensemble cast, the worst thing is to be just the main character on your own. You want everybody to hold their own weight. And I feel like she carries her own weight,

Kelly does, Britt does, all the girls do. So please shine. Do you watch every episode? Do you watch the episodes or you just? So I have to, I have to. But this season I probably won't watch all of them because a lot is some darker moments. Yeah, I was gonna ask. It's a little bit difficult. You said you have to, I have to. But this season I probably won't watch all of them because a lot is some darker moments. Yeah, I was gonna ask.

It's a little bit difficult. You said you have to? We used to when we did blogs, right? But now unless I'm doing press, and if I know it's a light episode, I'll watch it. But I really don't wanna see myself with the flashbacks and the tears and some of the things I've already healed from.

Gotcha. You said you like seeing the OGs on the show. Would you welcome NeNe back? Yes, yes. I will welcome her back. I mean, it ain't gonna look like I'm welcoming her back. Let me get this straight. We gonna have a time in the beginning,

but I'm for what's good for the show, but I just feel like realistically, as much as we all love Nini and I mean, Miss Nini, realistically, you just can't sue a network. You cannot say things about Andy Cohen that are that damaging and expect that bridge to still be standing. So unfortunately, I just don't know if she can cross that and come back. I just have one question.

When did Portia's confidence change? What was that moment, right? Because when we first seen you on the show, your confidence level wasn't as high as it is now. You weren't as comfortable in your skin. You wasn't ready to clap back. And then there was a change where it was like, Portia didn't change, it was like middle finger to everybody.

Right. When did that happen? I think that happened when I gave birth to a human. And I had to be someone that she can look up to. I could not be weak. When you become a mother, you have this natural instinct to be protective. Your heart is outside of your body.

Most delicate thing that could kill you is right there that you have to protect. So if you protect your child, you now know I got to protect me. So I'm super protective of me for Pilar. So when I say it comes to my mental health, like you talk about all the time, I put me first. I love my daughter. I love my family. And when I was married, I love my husband, but I put me first. I put my mentality first and I protect my peace, my energy first. Because if I'm good and I'm making sure

I have the right synergy around me, the right atmosphere, the right people around me, then I know my daughter's gonna be good. My whole life is for Pilar. So what you see now is just me growing the fuck up. I'm 44 years old at this point. Capital P. Capital P! And I make

my own money and I finally as a people person decided to celebrate myself. Like even in my down times, I still try to think about what I have accomplished. A lot of times as a reality star we get talked about, oh she's just a reality star, she ain't got no talent, she whatever. I'm a multitude of things. I have done a lot of things in my life to arrive where I am and have the status that I have So I now can accept it for me. So that's pretty much where the confidence comes from I got one more show question because I know you also are acting to a lifetime situation. We want to talk about but Kenya so I know she's not gonna finish out the season because of what happened with her and Brittany But they were saying that she could come back put potentially season 17

Who said that I saying that she could come back potentially season 17. Who said that? I thought that she was only suspended for the rest of the 16. No, I be saying that in real life. I thought she was only suspended for season 16 and could potentially come back for 17 now. I would hope that's true. I just can't see I'm in 100% agreement with her not being here. I would love for her to be at the reunion.

I'm for what's best for the show. And I loved where Kenya was going. She's not that happy with me right now, you know? But that's okay, I've always been that type. I don't give a damn how you feel about me. If I'm always gonna speak the truth. So, you know, I feel like at this moment, no matter what, I feel like it would be good

for Kenya to be at the reunion. And I feel like she is very articulate, and she can speak to Britt, and she can speak to the cast, and she can speak to the fans, and she can find her way back next season. So I think that that could be a true statement. I should not have it with you right now. I thought y'all were doing better this season.

She didn't like when I said that, when I compared her to Britt, and I said they were similar. And I said they were similar, but I meant because they're both fabulous they're both to me speak their mind like you know she when you don't like somebody you don't want to be compared to them so right got you but whatever girl I got hell I gotta talk about you you a part of the show don't you want to be talking about it's kind of crazy though I didn't even think about the reunion like the fact that she

won't even be on the who said that? It's possible. I'm still hopeful. I'm still hopeful. She is she's still a big part of the show. She's not the show. She didn't make or break the season. But Kenya is a person who I've been doing this with for a very long time. And for once, we were possibly about to have a season of not being foes. You know what I'm saying um Phaedra I have to say when Phaedra came in she helped to elevate the show as well and keep us where we needed to be because everybody been

wanting to see her she's been gone the whole time Kenya been gone yeah so you know it's people wanting her back and Kenya's been really upset about how Kenya has been treated by the network she's been very vocal about that and then Phaedra coming back I don network. She's been very vocal about that. And then Phaedra coming back, I don't know if Candy's too excited about that as well, too. But do you feel like the network protects you guys the way that they should? Because that's what Candy's saying. It's like the network didn't protect one of their stars, which is.

I still work for the network, so I don't share certain sentiments. OK? Let's be clear. All right. I'm saying that I think Kenya deserves an opportunity, and an opportunity can be given to anyone. You can always say no. She can say whatever she wants to say to Britt, the cast, the crew, and whoever, and they can say no, but I believe she deserves that opportunity.

I ain't say a damn thing about the network. Love the network. Talk about all this money you're getting. Pampered by Portia. Lifetime, that series. Go Naked Hair, what is it, the Lifetime. The series. The gold-necked hair. What is it? The Lifetime movie?

Yeah, it's Detective Ebony Williams and the upcoming Lifetime movie, Single Black Female III, The Final Chapter. Yes, yes. That was big for me. I always want to be in a Lifetime movie. I am obsessed with Lifetime and I am amongst the cast of Great Women who've been, they had two other movies. This is the third installment, the last one.

And I played a detective. I look totally different in this movie. I even stopped doing Botox for this movie. I did. I was like, you know what? I'm not doing any Botox. I want my whole face to move. Why does that guy look at the trailer?

Oh, it's frozen right now. I hope so. No, but in the trailer, no, no, you look good. But in the trailer, cause I know when you started doing Botox, it's weird. And I'm proud of every freaking line. I got know when you saw those boat tops, it's weird. Oh, there's lines in there. And I'm crying every freaking line. I got lines on my forehead. I got a crow's feet. I got all of it.

Because my role is so different from who I am. Like, I'm an alcoholic. I'm a bit of a stalker. Like, you know, I ain't gonna say who else, what else I've done in a movie. But I think it's gonna be a good look for me in the acting world because it's totally different from me playing myself and a lot of other things that I've done before. You turned down a lot of acting roles, who'd worry? Yes I have because I also have, well what am I? My mom told me not to claim that no more, but I'm one of those people who start something and I don't finish it a lot of times.

So I like hyper-focus on something and then all of a sudden I'll hyper-focus on something else. So at a certain point in my life I was really hyper-focused on something and then all of a sudden I hyper-focused on something else. So at a certain point in my life I was really hyper-focused on acting. I was going on stage plays with Vivica Fox, going on tour, I'd done movies, I've done a lot of voiceovers. And then I was like, oh, I just want to concentrate on Go Nigger, Harry and Pamperd. I don't want to do anything outside. I'm a businesswoman. And now I'm like, you know what, it's time to pivot back into that because I can naturally

do it. Like I'm the type, know what, it's time to pivot back into that because I can naturally do it. Like I'm the type, I have a photographic memory. I can literally read the script that night and it'll be in my mind the next day and print it. I got one last question. Will the Nigerian man get another shot or do you feel like the stereotype is true in all of them are scammers now?

So you just done. Well, I am Nigerian. So, and I don't know what you mean about all of them are scammers. I mean, we live in the United States which is the biggest scam I mean our entire government is scam and a fraud and taking advantage of people So I feel like when it comes to Nigerians, of course, I would date another one, you know I would I would marry another one. I want to love and marry who is gonna be honest and love me

I'm not ready to get married I'm not rushing into none of that. I mean unless I'm about to say you say that now. Unless. See by the end of the season you'd be like, oh poor shit got a new ring I know! You would get married again? I would. I would get married again. Why? Of course. So just because of him I can't get married again. I can't enjoy the comfort and the security of being, I love being married.

I love being called somebody's wife. I love waking up every morning, sitting at your feet, asking you what you need me to do. Like I just love that. That's in me, I'm a Southern girl. And I think that's probably why Nigerian men and like men of wealth like me, because I am very submissive and I'm very loving

and I'm very, even though I'm all that I am very submissive and I'm very loving and I'm very even though I'm all that I am boss bitch I can shift that a bit for my man. Do they have to have wealth? You know I was thinking about that I was thinking about that and I think if I didn't have a daughter they don't have to have wealth they do have to have self so you need to be self-sufficient you need to have your own business about yourself and you need to be able to come in here if I get pregnant and provide for our child. So no, I don't want no completely man who's building from scratch. But no, he doesn't have to be wealthy. What is wealth? Are any of these men really wealthy? Is any of the money really real?

Like we don't really know. I know one thing about it. I am a wealthy woman. I am probably a rich man. All my shit is legit. You're probably a rich man. I am. Like all my stuff is legit. You can check my bank accounts. It is what it is. You can see where it came from.

A taxes, not a man, a gay bird. Hold on. You said it. I know what you mean though. You just shattered a lot of dreams. I'm just saying I ain't gotta look for a rich man. I'm the rich man. I'm what I'm looking for.

It's just in a male version. Got you, got you, got you. So you know. But I'm not gonna look for a rich man. I'm not gonna look for a rich man. I'm not gonna look for a rich man. I'm not gonna look for a rich man. I'm not gotta look for a rich man, I'm the rich man. I'm what I'm looking for, it's just in a male version. So you know, but I do, I like this new conversation of like Dolly Parton, oh RIP to her husband who just recently died. But I like her relationship, like they were separated

a lot of the time, it's in space physically, but they kept their relationship strong. Like I don't feel like I have to live with my husband. Charlie Ralph does that too. Yeah, Charlie Ralph, and I loved when she told us that. I don't think it has to be traditional. I feel like my next relationship will not be traditional. I wonder what that means in the between times.

It'll be a little bit open. Oh, you would do an open relationship, really? Not with another female. So you could go and have another man, but he can't have another woman. I haven't found one who's going to allow that. If you know one, let me know. But no, they don't allow that. They don't allow that. I just mean as far as like your tradition of him having to be in the house.

Got you. I honestly could be in a house with just my baby and be good. And then we come and visit my husband. So you need a break sometimes. You just want to break sometimes. Yeah. And like I always used to kind of come and visit my husband. So you need a break sometimes, you just wanna break sometimes. Yeah, and like I always used to kinda tease with even my husband, I'd be like, we could have separate bedrooms, like why not? Why not have separate, just think about it,

why not have separate living spaces? And then when you wanna meet in the middle, you meet in the middle and if you don't, you can comfortably go in your room, pass gas, sleep, you know, not wash your makeup. Like, I think if you feel like that's why you need a welcome. You have enough houses though, I mean you have enough rooms in your house to be able to do that, so why y'all didn't just do it? sleep you know not washing makeup like I mean you have enough rooms in your house to be able to do that so why y'all

didn't just do it because I also like to be under people that's why I'm so confused because I'm watching you I'm like my me my me my me so I'm sitting here like girl what in what world I think I was talking about more so when we got old well he already was old I was about to say when we got old. Well, he already was old. I was about to say when we got old, he already was old. But. Portia don't know what she want.

Portia just want love. It's fine. I could be with a husband and him not living in my house. I think that's possible. Maybe I'm just talking about a businessman who travels a whole lot. And leaves me to my place. Could he have a girlfriend?

No, I'm not gonna tell him he can have a girlfriend. But do I, I mean, do I got eyes on every single thing? No. So cheating don't get caught basically, what you would say. No, because then that's also saying it's okay to cheat. So I'm not going to say it's okay for anybody to cheat. I would love sexually, let me tell you this right now.

And being a woman who's about to be super single after this divorce, I am not about having sex with a lot of people and no one should. I am a big advocate for women. Pick your one person, okay? Now, whether you have a relationship with him or not, situationship, whatever, pick your one sexual partner, get tested, make sure you know what he's doing,

make sure his health is important to him. Not just that he going to get tests for you to see, that he wants to make sure that his body is healthy and that he also has integrity with who he spreads his penis with. If you meet someone like that, stick with them and then just date everybody else. But the issue comes in, because I be there too,

but then you stick with that one person and you be trying to date the other people and then it's like now in this person you develop the feelings and you compare it to other people. No, y'all have to be scared together. Meet you somebody who's scared together. I am actually scared of these streets. I am not looking forward to being single out here

and being tested in these streets. Especially health-wise. Health-wise. I mean, Atlanta is number three in the AIDS department. And who knows what other diseases is out there that we all, you know, the people got out there, the other people got. But no, I think sexually have one partner

and get tested with that partner. That's it. I don't think there's anything wrong with what you're saying, but you have to tell the other people got but no I think sexually have one partner and get tested with that partner that's it I don't think there's anything wrong with you're saying but you have to tell the other people that you're dating that they not getting no sex they know they aint no sex what you mean they not getting sex? you think they dating y'all just because they want to date y'all or you think y'all just got that good of a conversation no baby people do date us just to date us People do take us out just to be in our presence.

People just take us on trips. Stop pointing at her. Stop pointing at her. Stop pointing at her. Stop pointing at her. What are you talking about? Stop pointing at her. Stop pointing at her.

No, they be hating, but what y'all men don't like to understand, and I think y'all get it, but y'all overlooking it because you wanna feel good about your own selves and that's your own thing. We do compartmentalize y'all. We have people we call, hey, I just wanna go out and eat and have a good time. Hey, travel buddy, but you you still not I have friends that

travel with men that don't have sex with them and then we did not say that the intention of sex isn't there for him exactly he doesn't want the same but you are men who are in a space to take care of a woman and make sure she's good and not not require sex. And when you were breathin' fresh air, they just want that sometimes. We'll see how long it lasts. It may last for, you know, it's a good time,

not a long time. So maybe like a little one year relationship. Yeah, cause the guy's about 89. He just lookin' for company. Ooh, I'm gonna be hot. You know what I'm sayin'? I'm not, I'm not. What is Johnson describing?

What's the only issue with you? The next man I'm with, I really wanna be attracted to him. Like I really wanna be like, I wanna be really attracted to him. Like I really want to be like, I want to be really attracted to him. Man stay in cut this timing. Just stay in cut. I'm trying to go about principle. I'm trying to just go about what I need.

I want to see what I need. I want you to look what I need today. What time? This morning when I was saying like, I feel bad feeling like no from everything from your look to how you dress it. I want to be like, oh my God about my next person. What did I tell you? You know how you just lay there and you just want to kiss him.

Yo you could just want to like, I want to look at your face on the eat your face on. Why is Lauren here talking like she got options? Yes, that's what we want. What did I tell you this morning? He told me you got to basically pick and choose. So like if he can't dress, just dress him up. And I'm like, oh. No, that's true.

See? Dress him up, but hold on. Don't dress him up till you marry him. You want your wife to be like that, ain't it, boo? Yeah. Put a filter on him, too. But don't you agree that he- Dress him up, put a filter on him, do all of that.

And then when you leave him, take it all back. Jesus Christ. Porsche, ladies and gentlemen, Real Housewives of Atlanta comes on this Sunday in 7 Central on the Bible and Peacock. And we appreciate you for stopping by. Yes, Capitol Feast. This is great. Porsche Williams, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Bravo and peacock. And we appreciate you for stopping by. Yes, capital please. Thank you.

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