The Breakfast Club - DONKEY: Ron DeSantis Encourages Banning African American Studies

Episode Date: January 24, 2023

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Starting point is 00:03:49 First of all, I would like to say I don't like this headline I'm seeing on CNN. The headline says, Florida gives its reasons for rejecting proposed AP African American Studies course. It's not the state of Florida. Okay, it's government officials who represent the state of Florida. But what does your Uncle Shar Charlotte always tell you about Florida? The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. But this isn't the crazy citizens of Florida. Well, not all of them.
Starting point is 00:04:13 OK, this is the crazy government officials in Florida. Now, if you haven't heard, Florida government rejected a proposed advanced placement course focused on African-American studies. Oh, basically, they don't want blacks to know nothing about blacks. OK, if they are not teaching it. OK, if the hunter is not allowed to tell the tale, then the lion shall not learn. All right. You know that old African proverb. Until the lion tells the story, the hunter will always be the hero.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Well, this is the part where they muzzle the lion. All right. Won't be no reading, writing and roaring on their watch. Now, the one page document appeared with a one page document prepared by the Florida Department of Education says that it rejected a proposed advanced placement course because it included the study of topics like the movement for black lives, black feminism and reparations. And it questioned the inclusion of certain black authors and historians whose writings touch on critical race theory and black communism. Can I give you an example of a lesson they don't want taught? The state objects to the inclusion of writing
Starting point is 00:05:07 by Robin D.G. Kelly, a professor of American history at UCLA, who warns that simply establishing safe spaces and renaming campus buildings does nothing to overthrow capitalism.
Starting point is 00:05:18 She not lying. At all. At all. I mean, those are steps in the right direction, but changing the label on poison to holistic medicine doesn't make it not poison now florida also said the course framework for the study of reparations has no critical perspective or balancing opinion in this lesson
Starting point is 00:05:33 i feel like y'all think i'm lying okay so let's go to cbs miami for the report please governor ron de santis facing widespread outrage over his administration's rejection of a new course on african-american studies in the state's high schools. In a statement released to CBS News, a spokesperson for the Department of Education said in part, quote, in its current form, the college board's AP African-American studies course lacks educational value and is contrary to Florida law. If the course comes into compliance and incorporates historically accurate content, the department will reopen the discussion, it says. The governor was in Fort Myers today and made no mention of the decision. The course, which has been
Starting point is 00:06:11 tested at 60 schools across the country, aims to expand the advanced coursework offered by the College Board into the study of the African diaspora in the US. College Board, the organization behind the course, responded with this statement, like all new ap courses ap african-american studies is undergoing a rigorous multi-year pilot phase collecting feedback from teachers students scholars and policy makers we look forward to bringing this rich and inspiring exploration of african-american history and culture to students all across the country when is the white man ever giving us historically accurate content about us? Can I tell you something?
Starting point is 00:06:45 I think the act of blocking African-American studies is disgusting because it literally is saying the quiet part out loud, which is simply we don't want you Negroes knowing nothing about nothing. OK, it's a tale as old as time. Shoot the nose off the Spanx. Don't teach black people anything except how African-American history began with slavery. As long as we keep them dumb, deaf and blind to who they are, they will never know what they can be. Oh, it's the Lion King, baby. Okay, the whole chapter of my last book, Black Privileges, is about how the Lion King was based on the history of black people in America
Starting point is 00:07:13 and how when we came to Western civilization, we didn't know who we was until Rafiki woke Simba up and reminded him. And that's what this is. Okay, Rafiki may be coming in the form of AP, African-American studies, and the government of Florida is not having it, okay? We're we gonna keep these Negroes eating bugs and singing Hakuna Matata when they know damn well it's a lot to worry about now here's the thing back to my original point okay I believe the act of blocking African-American studies is disgusting but we can't depend on white institutions to educate us about us okay teaching us about us has to be
Starting point is 00:07:41 on us all right that should be learned in the home. Because the reality is you're not going to hear about Malcolm X, Nat Turner, Denmark, Bessie, James Baldwin and no public schools. OK, they're going to give you some MLK Jr. with a side of Rosa Parks and that's that. Now, Ron DeSantis spoke to why he is against the African-American AP studies. Let's go to ABC 10 for the report, please. State Governor Ron DeSantis is speaking at a press conference today. He addressed the recent rejection of an African-American studies course at Florida high schools. This course on black history, what's one of the lessons about? Queer theory.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Now, who would say that an important part of black history is queer theory? That is somebody pushing an agenda on our kids. And so when you look to see they have stuff about intersectionality, abolishing prisons, that's a political agenda. And so we're on, that's the wrong side of the line for Florida standards. We believe in teaching kids facts and how to think, but we don't believe they should have an agenda imposed on them. The governor goes on to say that he and his administration were outraged earlier this month after banning that AP course, arguing that it violates state law and quote, lacks educational value. Now I can agree with Ron DeSantis.
Starting point is 00:08:58 It shouldn't be any political agenda involved in black history. And I asked someone who is way smarter than me what is queer theory and they said intersectionality you know think studying roles james baldwin being uh you know gay you know how that played a role in his life totally understand that queer theory makes perfect sense there i love james baldwin you know the panel conversations between him uh bayard rustin and malcolm X are incredibly insightful. But I don't feel as if they focused on identity politics the way this generation does. They were all black first.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And mind your own business about who they sleep in which second. But that's the type of stuff you could learn by teaching the class. And you can't really teach the last 20 years of black history without BLM, which was founded by members of the queer community so i think the difference between now and then is that bayard rustin james baldwin they were members of the lgbtq community but it wasn't mentioned but now it would be so what do we have here ladies and gentlemen a classic case of the white man white manning okay this is what's been happening since we got here all right always trying to erase our history so what's the answer yeah we can and should raise hell about this african-american studies class being blocked but don't just focus on what the white man isn't allowing us to teach in his schools focus on what we are teaching our babies at home can we please let chelsea handler give ron desantis in the florida department of education the biggest hee-haw he Hee-haw. Hee-haw. That is way too much Dan Mayonnaise.
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Starting point is 00:12:22 Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh, my God. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zaka-stan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-a-stan. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jacqueline Thomas, the host of a brand new Black Effect original series, Black Lit, the podcast for diving deep into the rich world of Black literature.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Black Lit is for the page turners, for those who listen to audio books while running errands or at the end of a busy day. From thought provoking novels to powerful poetry, we'll explore the stories that shape our culture. Listen to Black Lit on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're Mess. Well, not a mess,
Starting point is 00:13:18 but on our podcast called Mess, we celebrate all things messy. But the gag is, not everything is a mess. Sometimes it's just living. Yeah, things like J-Lo on her third divorce. Living. Girls' trip to Miami. Mess.
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