The Breakfast Club - Don't Judge a Book By Its Cover ( Recap of 3rd Day of Diddy Trial)
Episode Date: May 15, 2025Today on the show Loren gives the latest on the third day of the Diddy trial, with Cassie taking the stand again. She released more information on her relationship with Diddy which included, her being... raped by Diddy, pictures of her bruises and wanting to commit suicide! Check it out!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Transcript
Discussion (0)
You're listening to an iHeart podcast.
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everybody.
You know if you don't lie about that, right?
Lauren came in hot.
Hey, y'all, what's up? It's Lauren LaRosa.
And this is the latest with Lauren LaRosa.
I'm your host, Lauren LaRosa, the homegirl that knows a bit
about everything and everybody.
And this is Daily dig on everything,
pop culture entertainment and the conversations that are shaking the room.
Cause when you talk about shaking the room right now, y'all,
I've been sitting in the courtroom for the last two weeks and man,
like this Diddy case is it's like all over the place. It's like one day,
I'm like, Oh no, what? I don't think he did any of that outside of like, you know, the beating stuff because
we were literally seeing the bruises in court.
But and then the next day I'm like, man, I don't know, did he might got to do some time?
Like I'm all over the place every single day, but I think it's because both the prosecution
and the defense are doing their job.
So checking in on me today, I'm a bit tired, you know, because behind the scenes of the
grind and I've been grinding Taylor. Yeah
I've been out here. I've been outside literally, but I'm blessed though. I mean, I'm a little tired
I'm still figuring out how to be able to um
Care about anything other than this case because when you sit in there all day, it kind of consumes your world in your mind
So yesterday I shut off early like I didn't get on social media after I posted my video
I just watched the Netflix series and I was like I'm gonna start fresh this morning because I don't know
It was just like taking over my mind and my thoughts
But I think you know when you're moving and you're grooving that happens work takes over. How you feeling?
You and baby PJ
When's your birthday?
It's February.
No.
Tell her.
Why did I think you were an Aquarius?
Oh, that's Jazz.
Jazz is February 13th.
I am like Taurus energy all day.
What are you doing for your birthday?
I'm going to see you in AC.
Now I'm definitely really going to Atlantic City.
Now I'm definitely going to Atlantic City because I, because I literally was speaking to me being tired.
I was thinking to myself yesterday, like, man,
I'm going to just tell my mom, like, let's just stay in New York,
because I need to sleep all weekend.
I'm trucking at the AC on Saturday for you, because it's your birthday.
And I love hanging out with you and Big Patrick and little Patrick in the belly.
Yeah. But let's get on into the latest, because there's so much here with Cassie
and her taking the stand for the second day
If you hear me turning pages in here or see me turning pages in the video
It's because I got my handy dandy court notebook, baby. I'll be highlighting things
Yeah, because we can't use any electronics only the like inner like the inner city presses and a couple other outlets of the world
Who are in house press kin? So this the only way I can remember a lot of the things.
But yeah, so yesterday Cassie took the stand and the prosecution, uh,
did their or finished their direct examination. Um,
so that basically means the prosecution,
those are the people that want Diddy to go to jail.
They got to finish questioning Cassie yesterday, and it was done
She's done speaking to them
Well sort of kind of because they could come back again and ask her more questions on a cross-examination
But they're done speaking to her without any rule like interruptions or like basically setting up their premise with her
Okay
and now diddy's team gets to come in and kind of like dissect the things that she said to them and
Kind of get their own narrative out there a bit so I'm'm really interested to see what's going to happen when that does
happen. But yesterday in court Diddy's family was there. Interesting enough, his daughters weren't
there yesterday. A lot of people were wondering like the day that Cassie first started testifying,
why did they stay in the courtroom? Because it was very graphic. And they weren't in the courtroom yesterday.
They weren't in the courtroom yesterday.
It was Diddy's mom, Christian, Justin, and Quincy.
So Diddy's sons and his mom were in court, but the daughters were not there.
Like they have been a lot of the other days.
Maybe they just needed a break.
It is a long day.
We're in there from like nine to five five just listening to people talk and listening to legal
Like they talk so legal because they're lawyers. So it's like you got to decode stuff. Um
But yeah, so
The prosecution when I when I last talked to you guys here on the podcast about this
I said that I don't know. I wasn't really convinced that they had a case
Um, but yesterday, I mean it took them a minute to get to where they were going. I told y'all they left off at a good leaving point where they were showing Puff taking
Cassie Sting's back into the courtroom, back into the hotel room.
And what I meant by that was, Cassel I know you asked me after the podcast, what I meant
by that was their job right now is to show that not only was you know people being paid
and traveled for sex,
but that people were being kept against their will,
made to do things against their will,
and made to do things because there were threats of blackmail
and all these things, right?
Yesterday, that's what they leaned into.
So yesterday, Cassie was on the stand
and they talked to her a lot about the abuse.
When I say they spent so much
time and they have been, they spent so much time on the abuse, but they started to get
into how the abuse went into her basically being trapped allegedly and not being able
to leave the situation. So they opened it up talking about abuse. And one of the things
that they asked her is why didn't you ever just fight back or was there a time when you
fought back, right? Physically fought back. ever just fight back or was there a time when you fought back right physically fought back and Cassie starts
to talk about a time where she fought back and she says that you know Puff was
like astonished like he was confused he was shocked but it made her more angry
and of course it just made things worse so she learned you know pretty early
that like you don't fight back.
But she did try at some points, because I think people
are making it out to be that she wanted
to be in this situation.
And they were trying to establish that she didn't.
Now, another point in the video that they really
focused on that last testimony when
I did the last podcast episode before this one,
please make sure you guys go and listen to that,
was the phone.
Because Diddy's team has been really leaning on, yo, this is just a jealous, toxic relationship. podcast episode before this one, please make sure you guys go and listen to that, was the phone.
Because Diddy's team has been really leaning on, yo, this is just a jealous toxic relationship
and y'all are arguing about a phone.
And that CNN video, the beating video from the hotel.
Cassie's testimony yesterday was that Diddy's, that phone that was in Puff's hand was her
phone.
He took her phone allegedly and then her clothes back
into the hotel room.
So she couldn't go anywhere.
She could barely even call an Uber to leave.
But she talks about finally getting out.
And then even after she got out,
Diddy then came to her house and it was like a whole thing.
And they also have her talking about this black eye
that was in question whether she got,
whether she didn't get.
But then they kind of fast forward.
Now what they really spent a lot of time on yesterday is establishing how the escort service
or system that Cassie and Diddy had would work.
And they actually showed text messages, which I'm sure the prosecution, I'm sorry, I'm sure
the defense, Diddy's team is going to try and better explain today.
They showed text messages of Did he actually being more involved in?
Getting people places so he would they would talk about different people that they wanted to you know
Do these sexual encounters with and there were text messages did he literally saying like oh fly them in you know things like that
Which goes into the trafficking now? I have brought up the definition of trafficking
And I know when we talk about this on a breakfast club, I'm going to need it because a lot of
people are confused about that as well, too.
Now the definition of trafficking that goes into the MEN Act is the transportation of
individuals across state lines or intentionally for the purpose of prostitution or any other
immoral purpose.
I asked yesterday in court to clarify because I was, I was talking about this on the breakfast club,
the difference between an escort and a prostitute escort is not supposed to,
there's not supposed to be an exchange of money for sex. A prostitute,
there is prostitution is illegal. So you see what they're doing here. Like they're,
they're, they're putting the two together. Like, okay,
y'all are getting these escorts, but they're paying,
but they're having sex with you guys for money.
They may took time to like really verify like, okay, Cassie, in what states did you guys
have sex?
So it would be the same, like, she would name five different escorts, and then she would
name five locations where they flew them to, to have sex, right?
None of the escorts yet have said they've been kept beyond their will or anything like
that, but just the act of doing that is illegal.
And then they show text messages of puff saying yo fly him out
so now they're providing exact like proof that's been a thing people felt
like the prosecutors don't have proof and now they're like oh no here's our
proof but another thing to the day leaned in yesterday and I felt like this
was what changed my mind about the prosecution and what they're approaching
is is the blackmail so Cassie had talked about how Diddy would mention like different blackmail videos when
he was upset.
So if she like dated somebody else, if she, you know, made him upset, he would threaten
to release different freak off videos.
Now she said that she had said that there were a couple of times where she actually
tried to go and date other people.
She talked about Kid Cudi and trying to date Kid Cudi.
And then she alleged that Diddy told her that he was going to blow up Kid Cudi's car.
And you remember that happened.
They didn't link Diddy to that.
You know, the police didn't, but Cassie is saying that it was Diddy that did that.
There was a time where Cassie talked about she was just having a conversation with
the manager. It wasn't even a flirtatious thing or a sexual thing somewhere and Puff
got upset and she was, you know, beat for that. And when she moved on with Alex Fine,
she alleges that Diddy was texting her and they actually show text messages as a matter
of fact in court, not even alleged. They show text messages from Puff texting Cassie about
Alex Fine and saying, I want
my money back because remember he was paying Alex Fine as her trainer.
He's like, yo, give me my money.
I pay him and you was having sex with him.
I run me my money.
But he's threatening her.
He's like, yo, you know, you got a lot of skeletons in the closet, right?
Don't play with me like that.
Like you out here dealing with this man that I hire.
Don't play with me like that. But doesn't that now contradict of him holding
her against her will because she is able to date other people. She is but all you have
to show is that there was some threats. Okay sex traffic is a form of human trafficking
involves compelling or coercing a person to engage in commercial sex acts often through force, fraud or coercion.
Force, fraud or coercion. It's like she's in this relationship where she's
she kept saying it was her job to do what she was doing in the free class, right?
Which I think is gonna come back to bite her in her ass. Um, but she's doing all of these things
and people are like well why don't you just leave the relationship. Every time she missteps it got to a point where he was threatening her. Oh I got these
videos. Oh I'll leave these videos. And there was one point she said she was out in Atlantic
City and she ran into somebody who said that DJ Wookie had talked about seeing a video
of her allegedly and it scared her because she was like it has to be a free call video.
So her and Puff wasn't really speaking too much at this time. She called him and Puff was like,
yo, you need to have a conversation with him.
Bring him back to New York with you.
Puff sent his security to go with Cassie to sit down
and with Wu Kid and this other guy
and have a conversation about what did y'all see
and where did y'all see it.
Kinda like to scare them so that the videos
wouldn't go anywhere.
Like, that's like a, that literally, that's it.
So, was it though?
Was it what?
That she never saw the video.
Like, it never went anywhere after that.
So she didn't know, but it just scared her like so bad.
So here are some of the things that I think
won't work to Cassie's favor.
So like after yesterday, I do feel like, you know,
Puff's team has it made out for them for real, for real.
And I mean that in a way of like,
they got a lot that they got to fight it back against.
And I'm not, I'm not, um,
I'm not nervous for them because I've that first day my mind was blown by how well Diddy's legal team was able to jump in, find loopholes,
lean into certain things. But here's what I think, uh,
Cassie is going to be up against, right? Um,
there were a couple of times where Cassie said things where it was like,
it just didn't make any sense. Even if you were a victim, whatever the case may be. So the first thing is
She talked about the rape that allegedly happened in her home. So her and puff had stopped dating
She was dating other people. She'd actually just started dating Alex fine
who was her trainer at one point and is now her husband and her kids father and
They you know that she said that they would check in
here and there, you know, just to check in on each other.
They decided to go to dinner, you know, for some closure.
And dinner was so great.
Like they had a great time, it was fun.
So after that, he took her back to our house,
he came in the house.
She alleges that he then raped her
in her living room on the floor, right?
So the rape happens and then she sees him within the next couple weeks
after that. She chooses to voluntarily hang out with him after that. Prosecution instantly
points out, well, why would you do that? And she's like, well, you can't help. You know,
if you've been with somebody and loved them for over 10 years, you can't just erase that.
In my mind, I'm like, I mean, I guess I hear her because you want to believe all victims,
but like, that makes no sense. If the rape was to the point'm like, I mean, I guess I hear her because you want to believe all victims, but like, that makes no sense.
If the rate was to the point where like,
now you found a lawsuit and you sitting here on a stand,
why would you choose to go back with him the next week
when it's fresh in your mind, your body and your soul?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I think that that's one thing
that they're gonna tear apart about.
They're also gonna tear her apart about admitting
that she wanted money because she felt like she was owed it
because of what she went through
And the timeline of what she talked about where she received the money and the money I'm talking about is Cassie It filed that civil lawsuit which kicked all of this off alleging that did he you know was
physically violent to her mentally violent to her alleging sexual assault all these different things and
She'd asked for 30 million dollars yesterday in court for the first time ever,
we found out how much she settled for.
She settled for 20 million dollars.
When he asked her how did she come up with 30 million dollars,
she said, I don't know, I just like made it up.
She literally said, I don't know, I just like made it up.
I felt like that's what I was owed for what I went through.
That's not enough.
I mean, I don't know if you can put an amount of money
on going through, I'm not gonna, you can't take away what Cassie went through. That's not enough. I mean, I don't know if you can put an amount of money on going through. I'm not going, you can't take away what Cassie went
through. We saw photos of her yesterday, of her bruises and you know, her face all
swollen up and you can't put money on what she went through and no one can
take that away from her. And I'm not saying this to say that she didn't
deserve to be compensated or whatever she thought she deserved. She deserved it.
What I'm saying is that when you get on the stand and you admit that you were,
the cause and effect, because of this you asked for money. I think the defense is going to lean
into that because originally they were trying to call it a shakedown. But to her point, a lot of
the things she asked for the money for we now know did happen to her
We saw it on video. You know saying but in addition to that
She told a story about when she was originally trying to get because a lot of this came from to
Before she fought that lawsuit. She was trying to release a book
She wanted puff to read the book and you know, she's gonna move forward after that and blah blah blah
But basically they played the book they played her like bro. You don't got the balls to put this out
This ain't you.
This ain't, you know what I mean?
And she was like, it was given that she was like, okay, bet.
I'm tired of y'all thinking that little old Cassie doesn't have a voice.
Watch this.
And then the lawsuit dropped.
I think that there, if you're a good attorney, you can try and pull out motive of like, you
know, ill will.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, yes, all of these things are true.
And the prosecutor, I mean, the defender, the defendants,
the people defending Diddy haven't ran away
from the fact that he was a messed up person.
He was messed up.
He put his hands on her.
They can't run away from it.
They have evidence of it.
But I think that it's gonna really come back
to bite her and her behind when she came out
and she decided to say, well, because
of because you didn't take my book serious, boom, run me my money. And I don't know exactly
how you playing today. I don't know laws around that. But I just know listening to it. I'm
like, man, they're going to her. I'm like almost like a little nervous for her, especially
because she's so pregnant. And she broke down crying yesterday talking about, you know,
she was suicidal. She said that
this was in 2023. She was attempting to run into traffic at one point and her husband
stopped her. At this point, Cassie has been gone from Diddy. She's a mom. She's outliving
her life again. She still just couldn't shake the trauma of what, you know, she went through
in the aftermath of dealing with Diddy. Like, there's no way that this is not re-victimizing,
re-traumatizing her.
Yeah. Well, my child, my stomach be kicking every time we talk about this really yes
No, he's uncomfortable with this so I can only imagine and she's do before me like I can only imagine what she like
Emotionally what she's going through yeah what girl girl the way she broke down. She was strong the whole time
But the way she broke down even though I feel like I don't believe a lot of things after hearing her have a conversation
Yesterday, I still look at her as a victim like for sure for sure a hundred percent
I
Don't want to judge too much. I've never been that position. So I don't I don't fully understand the
Like you say before it was that one instead of going I don't wanna judge too much because I've never been in that position. So I don't fully understand the, like you've said before,
that one incident of going,
getting raped and then going back.
Like that doesn't make any sense to me.
Or like other stuff she said
when it comes to like wanting his approval.
Like I don't know what it feels.
Like why?
Yeah, like I don't. But I think the biggest thing that I learned from this, and I guess this is what we take away from the episode is,
is like you really can't judge a person in a situation because you know what's crazy, what I thought about after all that too is she held Diddy down
for a long time because we knew she was going through things and we had heard certain stuff. But when I tell you the extent of what she dealt with yesterday, when I saw them photos,
I'm like, man, she kept quiet and smile.
Some days she was literally her face was so swollen.
The next day they would literally ice it all day and then just put makeup on her and she'd
be popping out at red carpet premieres with him smiling the next day.
She held that down for years.
That's why I paid her the money, I'm sure.
Because he knew.
You know what I mean?
He knew what he, you know what I mean, what had happened.
Like held it down for years.
I mean, she held him down for years, man.
Like people can't come at her about a lot
because she took a lot.
She held onto a lot.
Also make note that you guys, the listeners,
the little writers, you guys, the listeners, the little riders,
you guys to know what Lauren's talking about,
like she's in the courtroom.
Some of the media outlets aren't putting out
every single thing that's going on.
So you have to read the what, transcript.
Yeah, in her city press,
they're tweeting live from the court,
but yeah, we in the court.
And when I recap, I don't really think about like,
I mean, I guess I'm thinking about headlines,
but I really just be wanting to tell y'all what is going on and what I'm witnessing.
And it'd be so much stuff.
Like I'm sitting here with my notes right now, I'm trying to prepare and I'm like, Lord,
I shouldn't have fell asleep last night.
But thank y'all for tuning in.
This is the latest with Lauren LaRosa.
I'm your host, Lauren LaRosa.
This is your daily dig on everything pop culture and the conversations that shake the room.
At the end of the day, there's always a lot to talk about.
Y'all could be anywhere doing it, but you right here with me.
So I appreciate y'all.
I promise you'll be on balance out the news a bit more.
I just feel like once we start to get to once we start to talk a puff,
it'd be hard to kind of pivot.
It's so much stuff here.
But thank you all for tuning in.
I'll be back in my next episode.
You're listening to an iHeart podcast.