The Breakfast Club - Dr Angela Zeng Talks Traditional Chinese Medicines, The Health Benefits Of Karviva & More

Episode Date: June 29, 2026

Dr. Angela Zeng talks Karviva Beverages which combine ancient Chinese medicine with modern superfoods to deliver sustainable energy, digestive wellness, and more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Dr. Angela Zangis here. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. It's such a great honor and I follow your show for a few years already. Love all your topics, but it's so cool. It's too. Thank you.

Yeah. Now you are the founder of Carviva beverages. Tell us what that is. Oh yeah. Carviva. I found this line, well, it's basically we've been on the market for nine years now. But I started building the plant since 10 years ago. But the idea started much longer further beyond 10 years, I will say, you know,

it's, I mean, God bless us that we've been on the market for 10 years because, you know, many of the small beverage brands, they don't even make through the first year. I grew up in a family with deep-reusing traditional Chinese medicine. So since I was a little, I was just fascinated by, I would say not just this powerful ancient healing arts, but also the living philosophy I was taught from my grandparents and of course my parents as well.

I think there's a lot of misunderstanding on TCM, traditional Chinese medicine. Well, don't get me wrong, it's very complex. Most of the books are written in this ancient language, it's even hard for a Chinese, modern Chinese, to understand what it's talking about. So I think it's perfectly fine. Most of people from other culture don't understand what exactly PCM.

People just think about some strange herbs and some soups, some remedies. Maybe it's going to make me feel better. And it was never regarded as a mainstream medical science. What is it, though? It's like this natural stuff, right? It's all natural. It's all natural. But look at this, natural medicine is not limit to East Asian countries.

You can find it in anywhere. Native Americans, for example, we use a ronia berry in our detox juice. They've been used for centrists by Native Americans, not just some additional food. They use it for healing. And then the modern science, clinical study, hundreds of them show this amazing berry, cure many diseases, including diabetic complications, even cancer. That's just how powerful nature plants, Mother Nature, are offering us. I'm sure pharmaceutical companies hate TCM, though, right?

You said it so well. I think I also like to look into the history of food culture, especially natural medicine culture. So the general concern is, if you look at the modern medicine, it was involved from kind of like this holistic medicine. Many of the compounds we use nowadays days are still coming from plants. Something naturally exists. But eventually what we have been doing is we study them and then we purify them and then we realize we actually can make them more potent, just like the

g-lp-1 yeah people think oh it's a wonder drug for weight loss but it's naturally exist it was first studied in a very special species of lizard and then scientists got yeah yeah it was from lizard and scientists got really curious they started to try to understand what does this compound do and then pharmaceutical company got excited about it and then they pure it and they start to synthesize it and then of course with chemical engineers made it much more like they call it the half-life much longer because the native compound they don't survive in your body is not like they going to be potent for such a long time wow yeah so they

diluted with a bunch of different other like chemicals to give you side effects like where you start well not really what they did it is they modified the native compound so the half-life become much longer much stable okay so the native compound probably only acting for a few minutes or so for example but the the chemicals now we're using in the market that can last for more of the day much longer time yeah and it's much more potent that's why people have side effects especially lots of users when they first started a drug, maybe they got too excited and they want to see fast results.

They jump onto the higher dose too quickly. And that's not pretty. And I heard a lot of side effects when I actually, as a matter of that, we were invited, we were selected to this Neurosene Change conference just about three weeks ago. And I was talking to a bunch of physicians and people from kind of managed complications from taking medical taking medicines, telling me those stories.

Yeah, people didn't understand how to take them properly, and then they would take the pill, they would go eat their favorite, you know, like McDonald's, Big Macmill, and then it's all stuck there. We cannot digest the food because that slows down your digestive tract movement, right? And the outcome is not nice. Yeah. And then you have to help those patients, you know, to recover from those.

Not to mention now a common issue is even dehydration or malnutrition because it really inhibit your appetite. How long is the shelf life for Carviva? Oh, yeah, great question. It's a year. And most people ask me, how did you make it? Very simple. Traditional remedy, we actually don't use co-press juice. Lots of people ask me, is this a co-press juice?

And I always have to say, I have nothing against co-press juice. juice. It's just a different way. This is we follow the traditional way, philosophy of making remedies. So the first thing, you're probably right I heard, you know, this East Asian people don't like cold drinks. We don't like cold food. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because the belief is raw food and cold drinks damage your digestive cheat. So it's really simple. your body needs to use the energy to warm up the food and raw food is just harder to digest. Because, you know, for example, if you eat, of course, I hope nobody eating raw meat because that can be really dangerous. But what about sushi?

Suzy, great question. Susi, yeah. I have to say I love Susie, but I'm always a little bit scared of raw fish because I'm always worried about, you know, potential pesticides contamination. Because you just don't know. Unless if you really, yeah, if you go to Japan, maybe go to a high-end sushi restaurant, then that's cool. But the good thing is most of the sushi they prepare here, I would think they use some kind of preservatives.

Just for example, bean sprouts. I use tons of sprouts in my juice. The reason is, well, think about this. Sprouse is the baby plants. That's the most nutrient-dense phase. Both of plants is packed with minerals, proteins, natural antioxidants, fibers, and is naturally, most of the sprouts are naturally sugar-free. If you want sugar-free, food, go with the sprouts.

But the problem is sprouts is very high water content. So the FDA actually requires the sprouts grower. When you ship out the fresh sprouts, you need to put preservatives inside. That's required. So I don't know I'm not a sushi chef. I don't deal with that business. So I would think they have something to preserve the raw. Okay.

Yeah. But speaking of like raw plants, the reason traditional Chinese medicine is against that, especially for women, because we believe women is more in-in nature. Men on the other hand is more young, young in nature, right? So for us, we need to do more care to preserve this digestive chief, which is the foundation for healthy, reproductive health. And we believe to have a healthy reproductive system is the foundation of maintain your youth and longevity, especially important for women.

So that's why we kind of like to cook everything. Yeah. But the traditional Chinese remedy, the making process can be extremely complex. But we actually simplify it to a low-temperature extraction process. So basically the principle is using natural methods without chemicals. to get the active compounds out. Because nowadays days, if you look at even how they make almond milk is using harsh chemicals, right?

They have to, yeah, they have to, you know. Yeah, and all those things. Versus if, like, our traditional way of making soy milk, it's just really simple. It's boil that up and then blend it and then get the soy milk, the liquid part of the soybean out. That's it. So what is some of the health benefits of carbivor?

Yeah. Well, that basically says a lot. My favorite one is always the detox juice. The detox, why? Because even thousands of years ago, our ancestor understand how important it is to do this regular detoxification. Because the reason is we're surrounded by toxins. Even thousands of years ago, you will say, oh, there's no chemicals. what are you talking about?

There's pathogens in nature, there's things that our body just don't like. And then there are natural byproduct that our body produced, all those biochemistry reactions in our body, right? And sometimes it's too much for our body to illuminate naturally. That's why we emphasize on daily gentle detox.

And nowadays days, even become more important. It's not about drinking some harsh liquid or taking some pills to make you go to bathroom five, six times a day. That was never what we were talking about in terms of how to detox your body naturally. It's really using the natural plants, many times natural plants. Sometimes we use herbs, medicinal herbs, to help your liver, your system, your digestive tract, and your skin to get rid of the toxins. And that's why we use, for example, mom beans, we use a run a berry, we use those natural fruits, super herbs, super fruits, to kind of help our body to eliminate the toxic compounds. And their clinical study, even to show, for example, mom bean, mom bean sprouts contains to natural compounds.

That's what they find. To chelates, it's basically a simple biophysical reaction. Kilaise, having a mentor, it helps all the body to get rid also. So another drink I really like is the collagen hydration drink, the AIDS, sports drinks. Collagen is now everyone in this country knows about collagen. Not only is great for girls, but important for men as well, because collagen is important for our cardiovascular health. People don't think about it.

And a fun way you can test whether you're lacking of collagen. Oh, I just pull your hair and see if the skin here is very loose, right? Oh, it's loose. You got a lot of collagen. You need collagen. You need to push up your collagen. It's loose thing. You need collagen?

Yeah, it's like here. Okay. You know, you can see one way age, right? You see the older men. You look at me, you tell me, do I need some? Yeah, is my loose? Pull her in. Should I pull your hair?

You, I think you're fine. Oh, gosh. Touching. He needs every deal by. I need collagen. You need some things. Yeah, no, no, no, you're good. So the collagen is so easy to say that about you.

That's funny. It makes you feel good, right? Remember they? Yeah. People teaching this. Yes. The collagen helps with cardiovascular health? Yes.

Because your blood vessel needs collagen. The integrity of your blood vessel. And not to mention your drawing, your skin, your hair. It's the most abundant natural compound, protein compound in animals' body. But most people understand the collagen peptide, they would spend lots of money to buy the peptide, but they don't understand that's just part of the story. You also need the natural minerals, for example, copper iron, yeah, magnesium, selenium, all those natural minerals to help your body to synthesize the collagen. Just think about this. Why traditional Chinese medicine pay so much attention to digestive health?

because if your digestive system is weak, you can spend thousands of dollars buying the most premium food and supplements. Your body cannot utilize them. It basically just go down the drink and it's totally wasted. That's why we believe, and also talk to any classic trained medical doctor, they would tell you the same.

If a critically yield patient don't want to eat anything, cannot take down any food, that's not a good sign. That's not a good sign. Yeah, if you have elder people at home, you want to make sure they still have appetite. They want to eat because if your body start to reject food, cannot utilize the food properly, you're going to lose your health really quick. Like you said, so peptides, that's just one part of the whole process, right? You need other things to help your body to synthesize the collagen molecules that your body can utilize. Because you're taking a foreign object in.

how do you want you turn that into your own, you know, part of your own tissue? Do you like peptide? Do you like peptide? We actually, the collagen we use here is not a denatured peptide. It's a natural collagen compound associated with glycoprote. So basically it's purified from a small part of salmon, well salmon, harvest in Japan. And so what happened is through generations in Japan, people actually love this.

little cartridge in salmon. They actually marinate that in rice vinegar. And it's a it's a yummy side dish because it's very crunchy and it's super healthy. It's pretty much, you know, no sugar, sugar-free, fat-free, just pure collagen, mineral, natural kind of like a food. But it's also tasteful. It's almost like a, it's a little nice appetizer for them. But the algorithm is they have very healthy joints, you know. So if you go to Japan, especially part of the Japan, the people there, even though they are in their 90s, even 100 years old, they can still walk around. They can still enjoy their life. Right. So the life quality is much higher. And I think the diet they have is a big contributor. Yeah, I was going to ask like, okay, so would you also

encourage people to have a clean diet while drinking Carviva every day. Ideally. Here's the thing. I'm not just self-promoting my product, but we receive regularly people sending us emails or feedback. How wonderful their body feel. I even have several customers sending email telling me that after half a year, they were drinking.

They've been drinking Carviva juices regularly. and then they went back to do their physical checkup. Their doctor asked them, what did you do? Everything just becomes so much better. But on the other hand, I also think, because Carriva, I always feel like it's a philosophy, we try to help people to review their healthy connection with food. Yeah.

Also, help them to become more mindful when they put something into their mouth. Because nowadays days, we do lots of stress eating, right? Yeah. Yeah. It is. We're under. Over-eating.

Yeah. An overeating. Or if you're maneuvering a lot, like you're not eating, like, the best meals, and you're probably eating, like, once a day. Like, I know that's not good either. On the go. Yeah. Depends on your body.

It all depends on everyone. Everyone has a build-up. Especially for women, for men is the same. Our body change every day. The hormone cycle. And most people don't realize the hormone has a big impact now. brain, our brain function. Same thing for men. It's a daily cycle for men. For women, for women is even more complex. Yeah, we have that.

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they also think a little bit carefully about, about other part of their lifestyle. Like, you know, maybe they would do a little bit more movements throughout the day and find ways to distress. All those factors are so important. So I'm not surprised if they are telling me, you know, now their physical, you know, check-up marks that become so much better instead of red, they become green. So, yeah.

Do you, oh, my baby. Do you eat from the Chinese carryouts? here. Great question. We all love Chinese, Asian carryouts. Maybe good, but I don't know if it's real authentic. But most of them are not authentic. I think New York, you can find in New York, of course, you can find a lot more authentic Chinese food compared to some other parts of the country, right? And on the other side, I can understand, I can also understand why the Chinese restaurant had to do that because we need to adapt. Okay.

Same thing. You know, if I give you the original, the traditional remedy, I just pack that in a bottle. You probably will say, Dr. Angela. You can tell me I drink this. I can live to 100 years old. I'm not going to take it because I can't swallow the same. Because we do use a lot of strong herbs. You know, the herbs, I remember when I was little, I had to personally, you know, like,

some honey. or something inside in order to drink those remedies. But they're truly helpful. Another thing y'all have that I like is the Carbiva Unwine, which is a line of non-alcoholic wine, alternative design to replace traditional wine while offering health benefits. Yes, yes. So what happened is I had a friend, interesting enough,

this friend is a friend with a star in Hollywood. And then she's like, I went to all these social events. I'm so frustrated because all the alcohol-free, non-accohol wine, they don't taste good. It's like, well, I heard from my friend that, actually it's Nicole. Nicole's friend. And she told me, can you help me to develop a non-accohol drink that truly tastes good but give the health benefits I want?

So I dig hard into our remedy collections. collections. So basically what I did is not, because all the alcoholized the wine on the market is they make the wine first, real wine first, then there's three different ways to remove the alcohol. They would use one of the way to take the alcohol out. And that process, during that process, they destroy the natural aroma, the beauty of the wine people enjoy. That's why most of the alcoholized non-accoholic wine they don't taste very good compared to the real wine so instead of taking that approach what i did is i basically modified twiged a natural remedies we used for gosh thousands or hundreds of years to promote healthy liver heart and brain you know brain

especially brain health so i basically can i make that remedy taste like the dry version of the wine though I did that's what I did with wine. So it's not really an alcoholized wine. It's basically a remedy, an ancient remedy. We use to almost like overcome the health damage from overconsumption of alcohol or some toxins. Now, Carviv is in a lot of stores, right? But how do you compete against like these billion dollar soda companies that spend all this money on marketing? And they spend more than a lot of health food companies spending a year?

year how do you compete with it great question that's the question every entrepreneurs or brand owners in the food and barrage space or even any CPG products base have to ask after saying there's no secret in the barrage field and frozen food the sliding costs is each and also you know not to mention like big brands legacy brands they pay millions of dollars just to keep their shelf space in addition to all the as money they spend routinely. I think the way we did it,

we're still doing that, we're still learning new ways, is basically, it's almost like in politician campaigns, like the grassroots approach. You have to build up a strong fan base. That's the only way to win. And then the other thing is I feel like one thing differentiates small brands from the legacy brands is we truly pay attention.

into the quality quality in terms of like because now the functional food and drinks become so trendy when I first started it was still very new it was I remember many many people asked me you know what is monk food what is what what is prebiotic we were the first brand actually raised the concept of prebiotic in beverage because you know I get a classic trained medical scientists but nowadays days everyone want to make a functional drink, want to make a functional, even ice cream. Nothing wrong with that. But again, when you start to do that, you are getting into, you are deviating away from

just making a yummy, tasty snack or a smoothie drink. We are tapping into the territory. It's almost like medical food when I was working in pharmaceutical, right? Not really a medical pill, but we are saying, it's almost like supplement. We're saying, oh, drink this, you're going to have stronger heart or stronger joints. I feel like when we start to offer that kind of promise to consumer, we need to have some concrete evidence. You know, for me, it's built upon, career is built upon thousands of years of uses, all those remedies. If our ancestors been using them and then nowadays days, lots of people still using them and feel the people.

benefits, well, do you have to say or it needs like a large classical clinical trial to prove the health benefits? We can debate on that. But on the other side, I also research each, you know, the natural compounds in our ingredients to make sure there are some scientific evidence to support health benefits. I'm just hoping, you know, small brands owner will do more of that to make sure the credibility of their product, their brand. Because again, I think consumer, again, most consumers, they love the legacy brands because we're being just brainwashed. We've been told just to drink them, to eat them throughout life. But on the other side, I think most consumers nowadays have doubts on whether they're truly good.

It's all marketing. Do you have any thoughts on expanding the Carviva brand beyond beverages? Yeah, we actually are working on a supplement. right now. So the first step is we're actually working on a supplement to as a boosting component for our juice cleanser because our juice cleanser are very different than any other juice cleanser on the on the market. So all other juice cleanser got lots of criticism from the clinicians, a nutritionist. I can easily list you dozens of publications, even a big one published last year by a group of clinicians in Northwestern medical school talking.

about don't do juice cleansing because it will destroy your gut microbiome as quick as in within three days. They did study to show that. People talk about it so much for gut health. Yeah, they don't understand that because the reason is most of the juices, they make it, in order to make them taste really good, they use lots of chivalry juice concentrate. They may not use the whole plants, weight stick with the whole plants. So they may not have all the good, you know, for example, prebiotic fibers, minerals, all those things, our body needs to build a strong digestive system. And without a strong digestive system, I mean, you can take any detox or juice cleansing

product, but go to bathroom five times a day, but the outcome is not good. That's why. That's why we're very different than that, but we are adding another component to our juice, cleanser packs to kind of help people to boost their metabolism, weight, natural. and also adding more privatic fiber components. So you want to see that. I'll keep you posted. And you're in a bunch of stores already, right?

You're in the shopping shop. Yeah, in the East region. Giant. Giant. Yes. Giant food. Some whole foods in the Midwest, right? Yeah.

Do you still consider yourself a small brand? Well, if you compare to the Lottipot, for example. Yeah. We're still very small, right? But on the other side, I think it depends on how you judge yourself. I always love to learn from my peers. And the other thing is always finding new opportunities to expand. Like now we're growing really, really rapidly in the e-commerce channel.

Because e-commerce, I think small brands have an advantage. Because, again, we can easily relate our message to our consumers. Yeah. Would you ever sell? Yeah. My partner would have been. Partner, yeah. Strategic partner.

I would. I'm always open-minded. I always say be open-minded. Right now I'm just like trying to build everything, right? And also I always feel like a big part of my job is to help people to understand this amazing ancient healing wisdom. So I just had a book being released by Amazon, just being republished for a few days. It's about using TCM wisdom in a very simple language, not the ancient language, no one can understand.

To understand your body to help maintain a healthy weight, because most of the weight loss program, unfortunately, including GLP 1, may not last load. What's the name of your book? It's balanced pure, a TCM way to maintain a healthy weight. Radio experience. You end up how with weekend gold tickets to Lassau Montreal. Thomas Rett. Mumford and Sons. Well, here's my pride and here's my shame.

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From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Echavari, and this is American Football, A show about soccer culture in the U.S. and its underdog roots. We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great. A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull. It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though.

Are they the only ones that don't like that? Nobody likes that. As we get ready for the Men's World Cup this summer, Listen to American Football as part of the My Coutura Podcast Network, available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Hoda Kotby, host of the podcast, Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby. Okay, if you know me, you know this. I'm always searching for inspiration, for support, and useful tools to help maximize joy. So this podcast lets us uncover all of that together.

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Because it's so normal now. Yes. Yeah. After each chapter, I talk about GLP1, have some tips for GLP1 users. And I also love. I also compared TCM traditional way of thinking to the GLP1 uses. So, GLP1 in certain way, basically it's just inhibit. It's almost like the painkiller, right?

So if you look at how Eastern medicine trade disease versus the modern medicine, I should not call Western medicine, the modern medicine trade disease, the fundamental different is we have totally different different approach. The medicine now, the mainstream medicine now is, for example, when you have a headache, easy. I give you this pain killer, it will help you feel better wasting 10 minutes or 30 minutes. Versus the TCM way is, okay, you have a pain. I want to understand what's the cause of that pain. So there will be a lot of this diagnosis, not necessarily using devices or medical tools, but it's really by observation, by touching, by observation,

by asking you lots of questions, like a very in-depth survey, and then it will try to understand where is the blockage, where is the fundamental cause of this pain, and what we can do to relieve you from, not suffering from this pain, not just taking the pill, you have to come back and take another pill, you have to maybe take the pill for a month, and you have to, maybe take the pill four months forever versus the Chinese traditional medicine the approach is that's help you to remove that fundamental cost of this pain so the same thing with gLP one the glp one drug is okay the problem of overweight you know is you're overeating right so we're going to design something it's almost like you know many years ago we have this bypass surgery right

like cut off part of your stomach and make it smaller. You can't eat more. This is basically that's a mechanical way to prevent you from eating more. This is from a chemical. It's like a natural compound that was in our body. And now we just use lots of chemical synthesis or whatever the way to make it very potent and last very long. However, that's not natural. Anything not natural is going to destroy the natural harmony, the balance of our body.

So again, it's this y and yang balance being destroyed. Yeah, the bypassed. So you had people walk around looking crazy. Yeah. They cut off half the stomach and then people was looking like they was melting. Yes. You know, because the skin needed to be cut off because then they had to go back for lipos. Yes.

Two parts. Yes. Having her cousin. Oh, my gosh. My gosh. And, you know, for people who are severely obese, I mean, you guys. You've got to find ways of treatment. And many times it's not about well power.

It's not about well power. I think the industry always blame individual consumers. Like, oh, it's all because you don't want to eat healthy. You just won't eat junk. They made the food super addictive. Addictive. That's the problem. They put it to dye and all that stuff.

And it's super convenient. And it's super cheap. It is. With all those things, yeah, who wouldn't want to eat them? Right? And so if you make a drug easily accessible for people and you make it cheap, they'll go buy that drug. A lot of that food is a drug. Oh, of course.

Of course. I mean, in a certain way, right? We all know that. But on the other hand, GLP one, I think people have to use it wisely. I'm not against if people need to use it. But again, it's not about using the drug, then you can count the rest of your life. on it. I feel like you use it as a two as a kickstar to build a healthy habits. Gotcha. You know, maybe start with some low dose and then you start to change your eating

habits. You start to become more mindful when you're eating food. Hopefully build up some healthy habits and start to rent yourself off from the drug because depends on whether that's covered by insurance is quite expensive too. Yeah, it is expensive. Yeah. It started off just being for diabetes. Angela? Exactly. And all the girls in L.A. got a hold of it and was like, I need to get snatched up. I know.

I heard people even already healthy body weight want to be on this drug. It's not a drug for people with healthy, healthy weight. Yeah, they want to disappear. Yeah, it is basically because think about it slows down your digestive tract, natural movement, right? Not even hungry. You don't even feel hungry. Because you can't digest food. it's going to impact other part of your body.

Yeah, the side effect in the future are going to be crazy. We start to see some. Yeah, because, yeah. How did they find CarViva? Where do they find it at? Yeah, so it depends on where you live. If you're in the East region, you can easily find us. Otherwise, you can always find us online, carviva.com.

You can find us at Amazon, Walmart Marketplace, TikTok shop. I don't understand why one of these beverage companies, whether it's Coca-Cola or Pepsi or somebody, he doesn't just say, hey, you know what, we need to have some more healthier options. So let's just do a strategic partnership with Carvee. They should. I think eventually the industry will change. It's already changing.

It's already changing. Well, you know, I think still food scientists are trained as chemists. Just remember that. Food scientists are trained as chemists. So not as nutritionists, not as a chef, I'm sure. So maybe one day that will change. That will change. But I already see the movement

from the grounds up. It's people like you and like myself demanding better food. Real food. Absolutely. It's Dr. Angela Zing, founder of Carviva beverages. Thank you for coming.

Thank you for this amazing opportunity. Absolutely. And all the education. Yes. I know I learned a lot. I have spent days to talk about collagen deficiency, right? Yeah, yeah. It's the breakfast club.

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