The Breakfast Club - Drink Champs: Vybz Kartel

Episode Date: February 23, 2025

The Black Effect Presents... Drink Champs! N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the one and only, Vybz Kartel!Vybz sits down with the champs and talks about everything.Top 5 artist, Grammy nominations, King of Dancehall, Kendrick Vs. Drake, etc. We covered it all in this episode!Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!iRossta & Mike Booth join us as special guest hosts. Make some noise for Vybz Kartel!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: 🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This man is like Jesus. He has dominated the world of dance hall. Didn't took a hiatus for 13 years. They came back and went, even in the 13 years, he remained his spot. Did he come home, he sell out Madison Square Garden times too. Every man come there, every man bow. They call him the world boss.

Got it, sir. And right now we are here to salute and to pay respect while giving his flowers while he here. The one, the only Vibes Cartel! Now, Vibes, you guys were once a part of a group. It was a group called Vibes Cartel, correct? Yes, it was three of us. But I was the best one, so.

Oops. So it went down to one. Yeah, it went down to one. Big up Escobar, big up Miss Ali. Because who got you into music? I heard it was your uncles who got you into music. Yeah, I used to watch them DJ. You know what I mean?

They were like up and coming artists. Like I said, I was the best one. So you never hear of them. Oh, even your uncles? Yeah, better than them. Oh, damn. So. But they inspired me like, seriously though, like they got me interested in the art form.

You know what I mean? Just watching people flowing on beats. That was crazy for me as a kid. Like, bum buck, lad. You know, and that's when I got interested. Right. You got that Jay-Z clip? I wanna play it. Jay-Z or?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Cypher sound. I'm bad, I'm bad. Yeah, with JMP. Yeah, I wanna show you this. Cypher from New York, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man, I'm cool like that, yeah. Just didn't happen. Just didn't pop off like that. I almost had vibes cartel. Cyphers I almost had him on my prank. Oh yeah. We tried three different hooks. Really?

Yeah. Oh, what song? Somewhere. I need to forget. Yeah, I know. Where they at? Yeah, there they go. Yeah.

Google has them. Wow. He couldn't come in. He sent them? No, he was there. He came to Rock the Bunk. Oh. Vibes Cartel?

Yes. I think he's talking about my, Jay-Z talking about my vibe though. Oh, he was there. He came to all of us before the fight. Oh. Vives Cartel? Yes. I think he's talking about, Jay-Z talking about Mavado. Nah, he said you. But what year was that? Cause remember they took my visa years ago, like oh five. Yeah, he might be talking about then.

Well, they were mentioning that you couldn't come. That's what they were saying too. That's why Cypher asked him twice, like short cartel. Yeah, he did ask him, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, man, Cypher, that's my bridge, you know? I've known him for years. Nigga call me one day, Cartel,

how come you've been speaking for two years and I've never met you, are you a myth? What about? Yeah, shit, it was crazy, man. Yeah, but Cypher is a bridge. Big up, Cypher. But you know, in Cypher's defense, since I've heard of you,

it's like a myth that comes with you. Like, I'ma be honest with you. I'm the other day hanging out with one of my Jewish friends and my Jewish friend told me, he said, it's in Jamaica, this is when he said that his friend said, he said, is Jesus a this is what he said that his friends said is Jesus Bob and advice and KFC

yeah KFC yeah yeah come on come on yo do you realize how many people love you like every artist that I've ever interviewed right I go to Twitter and I say oh I got this artist and the Yo, do you realize how many people love you? Like, every artist that I've ever interviewed, right? I go to Twitter and I say, oh, I got this artist to come, so you got questions.

With you, I'm not even playing with the fans because they'll be all in my comments. Do you realize how popular you are? Yeah, man, of course. But like I said, I put in the work, you know what I mean? And I keep it real, right through like night through. So I just sing my truth. And people just like that about me.

How was the Grammys? It was amazing. I've never been there before. You know what I mean? And just got out of prison six months ago. It's crazy. I know I'm walking the red carpet. Yes.

Yeah. I'm not gonna say. Joy. Blessing, man. Would you better say, Ross? No, I'm saying, I know Joy. That's a blessing, man. You wanna say, Ross? No, I'm saying, I know we talked about Vibes Cartel, the name, but before that, you were Adi Banton. I'm still Adi Banton.

Buju Banton is my favorite dance on artists. Right. Like, he inspired me. Yeah, man, Buju Banton and Ninja Man, my two favorites. Right. I got that written down. Mm-hmm. There was a concert one time when you was Young Vibes.

Yeah. And Buju grabbed a mic from you. What happened there? Nothing happened, that's Bujuban then man. I mean I was angry and happy at the same time. What the fuck? Oh, yes. Yeah man, I'm Buju that's fine.

And funny enough, he gave me one of the most profound, how would I put it now, advice in the industry. Because back then when I just came out, I used to flow very hard. You know what I mean? Look at me, look at me. And a lot of times it went over people's heads, especially the older fans.

Because I was just coming out. And Budgie Bantam was like, oh boy, you're bad, but I just need you to slow it down. And me I said, boom, Bukla, you know what I said, that makes sense. And that's when I think I found that balance between the art and commerce, because you still need our shit to be sold, right?

You still need people to, yeah, so big up Bujubantan for that, but yeah, I'm still Adibantan, man. Yeah. Now I'm going to be bantan, man. Yeah. Now, I'ma be honest with you. I seen a guy on the internet have this liquor and say, this should be illegal. Yeah, it's dangerous. It's dangerous.

That's right, it's dangerous. So, let's describe to people which one is this. Oh, this is the ramping shot. That's the record you got when you were Spice? Yeah, me and Spice, because we named each flavor from one of my hit songs. You know what I mean? This is my, no, this is the electric.

This is dangerous as well. But my favorite one is this. Fever. Fever. That's more like the ovo. 63% but it's smooth. It's like vodka. You say 63%?

Yeah. You say it. You say it. You put it here on your Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It takes hair off your chest too. This is crazy, man. This. Fever. And then which one is that one?

Oh, this is unstoppable. Okay. And you can't let any of it spill because it's unmappable. That's how dangerous this one is. These two, fire. this one is. So these two, fire. This one is mostly for the ladies.

The ladies, okay. And this, anyone can have that. But trust me, I recommend the Fever and the Unstoppable. Okay, so tell me something. See how you just said unstoppable and unmappable? Since when you start being a DJ like that in your mind and you always play with your lyrics? Yeah, I always play with words. I always play. You know this.

Yes, yes, yes. At what age? Since I was born, man. It's also a Jamaican thing. We love to rhyme. It's like every kid on a street corner in New York wants to be a rapper. It's the same thing in Jamaica. You either want to run from the cops as well, or you want to do music. You know what I mean? So those are not the only thing, but you know, ghetto style in the garage.

What is it, Summertime in the Portmore? Yeah, that song. Yes, but can you describe Portmore for me? I mean, it's just outside Kingston. So it's not in Kingston? No. OK. You got to cross the bridge.

OK. So it's like Jersey, New York. Or Long Island? Yeah. Long Island. I would put it at Long Island. Because we are still very much intertwined, culturally and everything.

Most people in Portmore at the time went to school in Kingston. He worked in Kingston. So we are basically a twin city. And that's how I grew up. How was life in Waterford? Rough. Can you describe that in any way?

I mean, I grew up like six of us. You know what I mean? Six kids, six kids. My parents, we had six of us in one room, at one point on one bed. You know? Get a lifestyle. But for me, I wouldn't change how I was raised.

Because it made me who you are now. Tough, determined, unwilling to go back there. You know what I mean? So yeah, man, big up Waterford, Portmore, Empire way. And you said your uncles were inspiring you to do music. Yeah, yeah, they were from Kingston. So they used to come to my mom's house like on Sundays where my dad had this thing set up.

Turn table, you know those vinyl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. With the needle, yeah, so. And they used to string the mic up and DJ. They lived in Kingston, water house. Yeah, yeah, that's where I was born. So big up water house as well. So let me just go straight up and ask you.

Who's the king of the dance hall? Vibes, cartel. Vibes, cartel. Vibes, cartel. Vibes, cartel. Vibes, cartel. Vibes, cartel. I mean, don't get it twisted,

because you have to remember, Beanie's a legend, and he was king. Right, right. The same way George was king, now we have Charles, you know what I mean? These things come and go. Just like life, we're here now, few years from now we're gone. So currently speaking, you know what I mean, these things come and go. Just like life, we're here now. Few years from now, we're gone.

So currently speaking, you know what I mean? As said by Billboard, as said by the fans, Rolling Stones, you know what I mean? Vibes got to tell her the king. Numbers is there to prove it. As it relates to dancehall, the love is there. Impact is there. The influence is there.

So, you know what I mean? What's more left to be said? One king. And one thing I commend you for is you never, I mean? What's more left to be said? One king. And one thing I commend you for is you never, I haven't heard you talk bad on Beanie ever. You always pay respect to him. No, Beanie's a big inspiration to Vibes Cartel. You just hit the Grammys and you still pay them respect.

Yeah, yeah, that's my top five. I told you, Bounty, Beanie, Buccio, Ninja Man, Vibes Cartel, that's it. But I read a lot of the comments, a lot of the comments were saying that's the reason why you are the king is because of your humbleness. You could use that opportunity and say something wrong or say something bad about it. Oh no, no, God is the greatest man. God is the greatest.

But the old you wouldn't have been like that. No. You're right, but you know what I mean? You live and you learn. You want some fever? Huh? You want some fever? You want some? Oh, you're offering me my own liquor? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I need a sock though.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's gonna hug you up. Ice, whatever. Ice. Ice, please. So is this something... I have white cranberry. Oh, white. Red. Red? Okay. Okay.

Yeah, that's cool. Thank you. I'm a little hated. I've never heard of white cranberry now. I've never heard of it. You know what I mean? It's a black nascent drink. Is that a Jamaican drink or is that any...

It's universal. Oh, okay. Where you taking it, love? No, keep, use this. No, I like to see where my liquor's made. Yeah, that's right. Make it over here. That's right. I respect that Jamaican. Y'all know what I'm thinking, man. Y'all know what I'm making it love. Yeah, keep, no, keep, use this, use this. No, I like to see where my liquor is made. Yeah, that's right. Make it overhead, that's right. I respect that, Jamaican.

Y'all are the best, man. Y'all are the best. Yeah, yeah. So, when you were locked up, what was the most thing that you missed more? Because I was about to say recording or performing, but you got to record in jail, boy. Did you miss performing?

I mean, I didn't get to record. I had to figure out how to record. Yeah, because I ain't going to lie. Whatever iPhone you got is good. 5S. I'm shooting a video. It's good for recording, the 5S. How many albums you recorded in jail?

A lot. I mean, we did Viking, which is now re-released. 10th anniversary, yeah. Congratulations. We did King of the Dancehall, which Fever is on. Right. Soul Goal. Right.

I did to Tanisha, the album that's nominated for a Grammy. I did that in prison as well. Right. So. Yeah, but you don't sound like you in prison. I'm trying to, like we were listening to this today. I'm like, how the fuck did you do that? That's just how it was.

Let's figure it out. Remember, everything is a technique. Once you crack the code, you win. So I started using my mattress, like, you know, that sponge they give you to sleep on, to imitate the cushion sound in the studio. Sound proof. Oh, sound proof.

Oh, sound proof. Yeah, yeah, so that's how I figured out. Yes, huh? How many times did it take you to figure that part out? A few years, because I started recording, like, in 2012. And by 2013, I'm a first grader. How many times did it take you to figure that part out? A few years, because I started recording like in 2012. And by 2013, I figured it out. Which means you had a phone in there immediately. Yeah, no, I had an iPad, a small one.

Oh, OK. A rectangular one. Remember those early ones from back in the day? I used to use that. Mm. Yeah, until I figured it out like 2013. Then I started doing more better quality songs. Wow.

In terms of the sound. Wow. Now, what's your favorite place to perform? I see you just booked Cologne, Germany, right? Yeah, I'm in Germany. Yeah. What's your favorite place to perform? Outside of Jamaica.

Let me rephrase the question. What's a place that you perform that you're like, damn, why am I here? Like, a weird place. I don't know, man. Like, I embrace everywhere. Let me think though. Japan, 2001.

Japan. Yeah, that was crazy. They go crazy over there. Yeah, that was crazy because like at the time, most of these, the internet wasn't around as big. So it was crazy for me to go to Japan and was like, bum bukla, these people know my songs. You know what I mean?

So that was crazy. Right. But since then, you know, we got used to it. Okay. Mm-hmm. Now, when you went to trial, a friend of mine, his dear friend, I believe he had 12 days of trial,

and I believe he went to 11 days. And I believe, if I hear this right, I believe on the 12th day they didn't let him in because they knew he was gonna be guilty. I'm talking about Busta Rhymes. Yes, yes, yes, that's my G. I was with him in LA. LA, yeah, just did a recce, right?

In the studio, yeah. So how's your relationship with Busta Rhymes? Describe your relationship. That's my G. The first time I met him was after I did best of the best. Because remember, I didn't have a visa. So I was the first artist to do best of the best from Jamaica by a satellite. You know what I mean? Live. So he was in the crowd in Miami, watching on stage and was like, yeah, what the fuck is this? I'm ready. I need to know this person. So we came to Jamaica.

Oh, so he let you do music for it. Okay. Okay. Okay. So he came to Germany, but need to know this person. So we came to Jamaica. Oh, so he, I bet you do music first. Yes. Okay, okay, okay. So we came to Jamaica, but we love Bust around. Right, right. Because you know, growing up, we found out he was Jamaican and he did the DJ very well, he raps very well, you know what I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So. No, no, the fever. The fever. The fever. The fever. You don't know the song? No, no, no, no. You don't know the song. Oh, no, people. Yeah, OK.

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Fever. Fever. Fever. Fever. Fever. Fever. Don't come. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. You can go anywhere. I mean if you love dance hall and you want to be in that culture with cartelists from Bounty, Beanie, Putre Banton, Movado, come to Kingston. Come to Kingston.

We party every single night. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. You want like a resort vibe, white sand beaches, the girls with the little thing, you go to Montego Bay. But to be fair to Montego Bay, they also have a very powerful inner city culture. They got gunmen, them in Montego Bay?

I've never seen one. Okay, all right, cool. But I will say this though, they have a very strong culture as well because they're the second city. So, Montego Bay would be, if Kingston were New York, Montego Bay would be Los Angeles. Okay.

They got it. And they push, they have big artists from Montego Bay as well, the culture, the energy. And I mean, dancers, yeah. So, Tommy Lee, yeah, brought out Tommy Lee. And I mean, have squash, he lives in Miami now. A host of artists, man. Jamal, the dance man.

So yeah, more based on nice cultural place too. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been to Montego Bay. Oh, you've been there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The resort part or the brand new part? Yeah, I've been to the resort part, my bad.

I don't know nobody. Okay, go ahead. So, you go, we go, okay. Kata, I know we're all over the place, but I wanted to talk about Alliance and your introduction to Bounty Killer and that part of your life. Oh, that was crazy, man.

Like, I was in Portmore at the time. So a dude that saw me on a show, a stage show, amateur night, and he was like, yo, I know Bounty Killer and I can make the introduction. But them times as a youth from the ghetto, we was like, where the fuck, where you know Bounty Killer and I can make the introduction. But them times as a youth from the ghetto, we was like, where the fuck, where you know Bounty Killer from? You don't know him?

Yeah, like how you know him? Right, right. Who are you? Yeah, exactly. Because at the time he was driving a Nissan, I'm like, nigga, how you? Right. You know what I mean?

So it took us months, because I was like, yeah, come pick me up today, five o'clock. Five o'clock I five o'clock. I never showed. Now I mean, and then one day me and my friends was there chilling and we was like, you know what he's determined. Give him a chance. You know what I mean?

So see how determination is a good thing too. Yeah. So I said, okay, let's go. And he actually knew bounty. So when he took me to bounty killer, bounty was there. I think he was playing cards or dominoes, but some gambling was going on. And he didn't even look up. Like, Butler was like, oh, this is the dude that I wanted to introduce you to. And Killer was like, yeah, man, make him do the demo. You know him talking like that?

Let him do the demo. Double six, and he's playing his domino. Anyway, we went to do the demo. When I went to the studio to do the demo, I saw a man, a man came in and the engineer was arguing with him on something. He pulled a gunshot, the dude killed him. On spot, we had to leave. They're like, how would the blood clot? He said, okay, I'm gonna cross this thing in my life. Anyway, we went to another studio

where I met a famous Jamaican DJ called Ricky Chupa. In Jamaica, we wouldn't call him DJ though, we'd call him a selector. He spins the turntables. And that was the start of an amazing relationship as well. Anyway, did the demo, went back to Bounty Killer the next day, gave him the demo, left, came back the next day, and then he was like,

yeah, yeah, you with your body. Yeah, yeah, but sorry, man. Yeah, I'm sorry, man. That's when Bounty Killer became my mentor, you know what I mean? Legend, yeah, he made me famous. A big up Bounty Killer. And shout out to the dude that brought you to him because of that. Oh yeah, Ron Butler. He lives in LA right now. As a matter of fact, me and him not that close, but his little bro,

he's one of my road managers, so I don't leave him. Everywhere in the world I am, he's there. How about the first time you met Buju? Buju Banton, like I said, the first time I actually met him, apart from the incident, was in Manhattan. Them times I had visa, way back in the day, like 2004. Yeah. And let me ask you a little political question,

start to political. But why do Jamaicans need visas to come here, but Americans don't need visas to go to Jamaica? In America, it's America. I doubt if you guys need visas to go anywhere. Shit. Maybe Russia. No, no, London, they kicked me out of London.

I didn't have a visa, they kicked me out. They didn't even let me get out of the airport. We need visas for some places. Yeah, they kicked me right out of London airport. We need visas for some people. Yeah, they kicked me right out. London. Yeah. You're London, motherfucker. I mean, we could, you know, let me pass on that answer.

I'm not going to get too political. It's not going to end up in race and whatever. How does it feel to get your visa back? And what does that mean for an artist coming from Jamaica and overseas? I mean, it feels good, man, and I think I deserve it too. That's right. I mean, so shout out to that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Not to, not, I don't say that to sound cocky or anything. Right. I just say that because apart from me putting in the work, I think I'm changed as a person and I'm more user friendly, so to speak, so yeah, I think I deserve it. I'm chilling. And you got acquitted of all the charges, right?

Huh? You got acquitted of all the charges? All the charges, right. I have no charges. I'm not acquitted. I'm not acquitted. Because one of the things that was said to me was, this whole time you was caught, but there was no gun,

and there was no body that they ever found. No. Yeah, so it was almost like, that's like the, like. I mean, I went through the trials and tribulations and God brought me through successfully, you know? So. Made it through. Made it through, man. God is the greatest. God damn it. Yeah, man.

God damn it. Laugh for God, man. God damn it. God damn it. So what was some of the things you was watching in jail? Everything. God damn it. Laugh for God, man, God damn it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah. So what was some of the things you was watching in jail? Everything. Everything. Yeah. You had internet, you had WorldStar.

WorldStar? Yeah. No, that it's jail, man. I had fucking Pornhub. I didn't see it. I said, well, yeah, I'm in WorldStar. Yeah. I don't know.

I didn't see it. I said, well, yeah, I'm in WorldStar. You know what? You know what? You know what? I see you walk the red carpet in the Grammys and I see you point out every little website, like you knew. So I was like, he had to be,

he had to have internet in a can. Yeah, it was up to the time, man. I mean, they have taken so many phones, some in prison, I've lost count, man. Because it's not like it's legal. Right. Or it's a cell. And I'm in a cell.

Yeah. Right. So you know So you know how that go. It's crazy though, but yeah man, I mean I wasn't given the worst treatment. I wasn't singled out, you know? Sometimes people have to single you out. But when I was in Jamaican prison, I wasn't like singled out in a bad way. Right.

Right. Only in good ways, you know, because you know the culture is big. And like I said, I'm a chill person. Right. You know what I mean? And you're the world motherfucking boss. They got to appreciate you.

That too. That too. Yes, yes. Our show is about giving people their flowers when they can smell them, their thoughts when they can think them, and their drinks while they can drink them. Yes.

Yo man, welcome home. Yo, stay home, stay on top of the game. We wanna give you your flowers, face to face, man to man. And tell the... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey! Wow, yeah.

That's amazing, man. What's coming on? Yeah, yeah. See, that's a camera. Yeah, yeah. Snoop Dogg said it's better than a Grammy because it comes from his people. Yeah, Kareem, tell them where you from. Portmore. He's from Portmore, yeah. That's you, that's the camera. Yeah, yeah. Snoop Dogg said it's better than a Grammy because it comes from his people. Yeah, Kareem, tell them where you from.

Portmore. He's from Portmore, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the rossers, come on. You see that? Yeah. Oh, yeah, man. Sun City.

Oh, yeah, man. Thank you, man. It means a lot. Yes. Hell, yeah. You got something to eat? Go ahead. Your nickname is the War Angel as well.

You know what I'm saying? And what's Go ahead. Your nickname is the War Angel as well, you know what I'm saying? Was the War Angel. Was the War Angel, yes. So I want to go back a little bit because we're in the Magnificence of Vibes Cartel right now, but we have to talk about how you got there and the things that made you that, you know? And you said some of your inspiration was Bounty, Buju, and Ninja Man. You had an instance with Ninja Man one time on stage. You know what I mean? I'm just wondering how the hell do you have an instance like that with one of your inspirations?

It was an unfortunate incident. And you know what I mean? Funny enough, like I said, Ninja Man is the first artist that I really listened to and was like, I want to do this. It's my job. It's going to be my job. So I guess we were bound to meet at some time. They say work till your idol becomes a rival or something.

Yeah, they say that. It happens. Yeah, so I guess that's what brought me and his journey right there in that time and space together. But yeah, we met after that. We were actually in prison together, like two prisons. Oh, okay. Yeah, so we were in Spanish town prison,

and we were in Tower Street in Kingston. I left in there as a matter of fact, so big up ninja man. But yeah, that was a crazy point in my career, you know? I was hungry. I could tell. I was hungry man, and I wanted it, any means necessary. Yeah, but big up ninja, we're good like that. And what about the times with Bounty?

Who all was in the Alliance? Oh yeah, I had a lyrical feud with the Alliance as well when I left. Because you, but how long were you with them? I was with Alliance some 2000, till about 2005, 2006. Okay. Yes. Funny enough, you know what started that feud

with me and Alliance? When I went to Beanie Man's wedding. Oh, yes. He was with, it was. The poor woman that I, no. He was broke. That's a clue. Bounty and Beanie was at it at the time,

because remember Bounty, Beanie Man married at the time to Bounty. Right, right. And so tensions was high. It was love of hip hop in Jamaica. Exactly. Love of hip hop. No, that's true.

Love of dancehall. Love of dancehall. Love and dancehall. Love and dancehall. Love and dancehall. Love and dancehall. But I knew Angel, that's Beanie Man's wife, Monty's ex, I've known her for years. Right. So I basically went to Angel wedding, but. You were supporting her.

Yes. Right. And trust me man, that was crazy in Jamaica. That caused the rift? Yes, that caused it man. Yeah. But did you do, you did a record as well with her? You did a record with her?

Yeah, while she was with Beanie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Birth to a Life. You know what song? Exactly. It was a big, it still is a big song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but that's what started it, man. And we went, and that's what birthed like the emergence of Gaza Gully.

Because then Movado stepped up as a kid. That's who Gaza went against, right? Yes. OK. But we're both from Alliance. Oh, yeah. That's a success. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're both from Alliance. So when you had that problem, he stepped up for Alliance. Yes, he stepped up for Alliance. Right. Because I was shooting everyone. He was like the young, brave one that time, that's,

what y'all do? He said, fuck it. And then that's when it started. So it's over? Huh? It's over now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my father cool man. But it went down for a while.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As a matter of fact, his son was in the same prison I was in too. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, man, shout out to Gully God. Yeah, I think he's in town. Do you ever look back at those times

and I don't want to say regret. I never regret anything. But maybe you want to do something different? I know, I want to live in this universe, man. And this universe brought me to where I am. You ended up here. God did it. Right.

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No, no, no. I'm going to give it to you. You could save one person. Yes. Buju or Bounty Killer? The Fever is going to make the fire more. I just want to let you know. Yeah, you could save one.

Yeah, the Fever is going to cause someone to burn. He's going to make the fire more. I just want to let you know. Yeah, you can say. Yeah, the fever is going to cause some of the burns. He going to drink the fever himself. I thought I could have sworn I saw that on your program, like when the person doesn't want to answer. Oh, you drink it. Take a shot. That's how that jumps out. Oh, god.

That's good. That's good. He killed that. He killed that. I'm going to take a drink too. Shit. Mm. That's good. That'm gonna take a drink too. Shit. Mm, mm. That's the best.

That's the quick time of slime. All right. You ready for quick time? Hold on, hold on, I wanna. Go ahead. Hold on, my bad. Y'all gotta step your shit up there. That's where they make up these questions.

Yeah. Let's talk about one of your friends, Sean Storm. That's my brother, man. Right. No friends here. Take care of yourself. That's your code, man. That's my, yeah Storm. That's my brother, man. No friends here. Take care of your children. That's my brother, man. That's my, yeah. That's my real bro, man.

Everything is great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, his mom used to sell at the primary school that I went to. He went there too, but I'm older than him. So I was there before. So yeah, man, we grew up in the same community.

Right. Yeah. Okay. Come on, that's my bro, man. OK. Talk to him every day. OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why did you ask that, though, even though it's your interview? I don't know.

Oh. I just wanted to make sure I'm on point. Oh, yeah, you're on point, man. That's a decimal. Yeah, yeah, I want to make sure I'm on point. I had to call. Let me tell you something. Everybody wants to be a part of this interview.

Everybody, man, because you're so important to the people, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, man, because you're so important to the people. You know what I mean? And like, you know what I mean? I just wanted to, I just wanted to give you your flowers, man, because you know what I mean? Like your story is impeccable. Flowers received, man.

That's right. That's right. Yeah, you're really gonna do it. Well, I wanna ask, what influences, if any, did you have of a hip hop artist from over here in the States? Growing up, I used to listen to like KRS-One, BDP, of the Bronx, you know what I mean, Slick Rick. Little bit of big that.

We loved Slick Rick in Jamaica back in the day. Right. We heard, he was like, yeah man, Slick Rick, the ruler. Right. Yeah, the teacher. Right. Yeah man, big up Slick Rick with the big chain.

Right, yeah. And you know, back in the days, Jamaicans used to love to wear those big, heavy gold chains. You know what I mean? Them time the diamond and the bling wasn't such a thing, but that's the big old chain. Yeah, man. And you call yourself the teacher too, right?

Yeah, but, yeah, well, I didn't call myself the teacher. People gave me that. People gave me world boss. I only gave myself the name Vybz Cartel. Right. And war angel. Because remember Bounty Killer is the war lord. So he needs the little war angels around him at the time. So yeah, yeah, yeah.

Did you write songs for Bounty? Yes, that's how we actually hooked up. Or met in terms of like, I used to write. And then he gave me the opportunity to do a song with him called Gal-Clown. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. You said you still write? Yeah, I wrote.

Like, back in the day, like. Like the whole song? Yes, yes, yes. Really? Yeah. And dance hall, that's cool? Yes. Okay.

That's Bounty Killer. Right. Who you gonna say that's uncool? No, no, I'm just saying like, cause it like- Bounty Killer had a team of writers around him at the time. Very good writers too. Wow. You know what I mean?

Yeah, very good writers, man. And I imagine their output is more. Angel Doulos is the best one. You guys have more output, I feel like, than artists over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause you're writing on every rhythm that comes out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're just throwing shit out. Right. Yeah. Did Neo ever get mad at you? I've never met him. Y'all niggas mash up his song. Yeah, I know, I know. I know.

Everyone in the club thinking they're gonna hear do do, do do, do do, do do, do do. I'm excited. What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? Yeah, right, you in shock.

You got the clear, Ross? Yeah, I watched that. Do you mean if I got the clear? I watched you on TikTok. I watched you. I watched you. Okay. He cleared it right away, which made me feel responsible for me to not clear it, even if I was thinking about not clearing it, which by the way, I was never thinking about not clearing it. That's why it's so tough. But he didn't clear it.

That's what I'm saying. He didn't? No, don't say that. Oh shit. That's what I'm saying. You ain't wait. Come on. What it was was presented to me like,

this is that dude. Oh, and by the way, he did this with your song. It was presented to me like that. So I'm like, so what are we talking about right now? Of course it's fine. What about, why would I have a problem with this? To this day, I can't be over there and perform Miss Independent without giving props

to what the fuck he did. You know what I'm saying? Like his real shit. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Like he- Yeah, say he brought the record back to life.

He brought the vibe and the essence off of this shit that I was trying to do. I gotta give you love for that. Okay. In his defense as well, the publishing was owned by some European guys. Oh. So they were holding like, oh we don't.

Isn't that so dope, the power of the people? They make with the hits, whatever the fuck it is. It doesn't matter if Def Jam played it or not. That shit, I think that's y'all record. Yeah, man, it's the biggest, it's one of my biggest songs, man. Like, trust me. It's one of Spice's. Like, anywhere she goes, she's like, yo, I got the big hit with Cartel. This is my first big song.

Right. She says that. She's also from Portmore, by the way. Spice, we grew up together. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, man. So, big up, Gracie. And the Rumpin' Shop. Mm-hmm, that's it. Thatice, we grew up together. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, man. So big up, Gracie. And a ramping shop. Mm-hmm, that's it. That's the, ha ha. Yes.

Yes, because we ramp rough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's called a ramping shop. A ramping shop. With you guys, maybe we call it like a motel or. Oh, it's like that? Yes. Oh.

Yeah, or a sex shop, but we say ramping shop. We ramp rough. Yeah, yeah. So. Yeah. We can talk at ramp in shop. That's where we ramp rough. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. We used to look at Chovy. That's where the concept came from. So that's where the concept came from, you know what I mean?

That's where we used to hang out. Back in the day, me, Popcorn family, the girls used to come through. Da da da da, yeah, so. That's how we gave it the name, the ramping shop. And I don't know. So it's a real place. I don't know if I'm supposed to say it like this.

And you bust Pop popcorn, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You said it properly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just you have to just say it. And yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, brought him to fame, man.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just happy to say it. And yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, brought him to fame, man. Very talented.

You know what I mean? Big old pop con. Did you think he exceeded your expectations or did he meet your expectations? No, he met it. And, I mean, he has way more potential in him. Remember, he hasn't even touched US soil yet. Think about that. He's one hasn't even touched US soil yet. Think about that.

He's one of the biggest artists out of Jamaica, been all over the world. He rose with Drake. Oh, I'm seeing him in Canada. I'm thinking that's the US. Exactly. Holy shit. No, it's not.

It's Canada. Damn, I didn't peep that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he goes to UK on a hundred. Sells like gold in UK. On a regular life. Yeah, man, he's doing his thing. He's on a regular. Sells like gold in UK. On a regular. Yeah, man, he's doing his thing. He's big.

If you get the headline, Eastern Parkway Parade, would you bring popcorn with you? Unless he's walking through the border, like I said, he doesn't have a visa. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But definitely, like me and him, we travel all over the world. We've been traveling. Like I said, I gave him his fame.

So of course if he gets his visa, it's five star, it's on. But now as it stands, I have to walk, man, shit. So why didn't you give him his visa? I never went to the embassy when that was being discussed. You came out, you got your visa, no problem. No, because God is the greatest, I told you. I've made it up 180.

Like, people expected me to come out guns blazing. Fucking up the place, literally, and musically. But like I said, I'm just calm now, I'm chill. Like, I feel blessed, I feel good. You know what I said, I'm just calm now. I'm chill. Like I feel blessed. I feel good. You know what I mean? I'm just showing love to everyone.

Whether you like me or not. And that's where my blessing come from. You know what I mean? A lot of people surprised that I got the visa. You know what I mean? As a matter of fact, I went to the German embassy first and got the European one, the Shenyang. Then I went to the U Embassy, got the US visa.

In addition to that, like I said, the Grammy nomination, Keeping Freedom Street, the biggest dance hall show. Making things a blessing. Because we just be like, yo, God, I'm on your time right now. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, so. You're gonna make Freedom Street a festival?

Yeah, we're gonna do it for two days. Two days everywhere? So where would be the next place you want to do that? Well, we wanted to do it in England, but we got an offer already. Wireless festival. Yes. So I'll be in wireless.

And you know that summer, so I don't want to pop that up. Yeah, where's that at? In London. Oh, London is? Wireless festival, yeah. Live Nation Wireless. OK, yeah. So we're just keeping it every year in Jamaica.

That's one thing for sure. It's going to be an annual event. Do you realize that you stopped the planes traffic in Jamaica that night of the concert? There was planes that was backed up. There was traffic. It was like one of the craziest nights in Jamaica. You knew that?

Yeah, man. Even in Kingston, you couldn't get a hotel room. All the rooms are booked. You know what I mean? And what a lot of the hotels did on that night, so say the room is for like $250, US. So for those two nights, you gotta have a thousand a night. Wow. They cut you in on that?

No, but the hotel that I stayed, funny enough, you brought that up because I actually stay at a hotel. I've been there so long, even my manager was like, just by the hotel, man. But they give me a good rate, so I stayed there because my house is in the hills, but it's too far. So if I want to hide away from people, then I go there.

But I like to stay in New Kingston because that's like being in Manhattan. You said New Kingston? New Kingston. It's a part of Kingston called New Kingston. New Kingston because that's like being in Manhattan. You said New Kingston? New Kingston. It's a part of Kingston called New Kingston. New Kingston, that sounds a little better. You know, the banks and the hotels and the nice restaurants and places you would like.

Okay, God damn it, New Kingston. New Kingston, all right. Let's go Kingston. Let me ask a question. Since I was talking about Freedom Street, Freedom Street reaches here and then you emerge out the stage and you just sit there for maybe a question. Since I was talking about Freedom Street, you know, Freedom Street reaches here, and then you emerge out the stage, and you just sit there for maybe-

From under the pit? Yes, for maybe one, two minutes. It seemed like five minutes. What did that feeling feel like for you? I did it on purpose. Because remember, I like to prove them wrong. So if you want me to jump this table, just say, you can't jump this table.

No, no, no. You know what I mean? You can't jump this table, just say you can't jump this. You know what I mean? So... You can't jump this table. That's the way. That's the way. OK. But yeah, so when I was coming out the pit, usually I would start making my signature slang from Black Sting.

Exactly. So they'd be like, yo, yo. All right, send me a say. You know, who know the thing? Ah, they'll look at your shit like that. And it would get the crowd going. So I was like, nah, I'm coming out like Michael Jackson style. Exactly.

Silence. And let them do that. Yeah, so I gave them Michael good. Think about a minute. Seemed like five. Yeah, it seemed like five. I was streaming on TikTok before they canceled it. And then I said, yo, yo, and Pandemonium.

Right. Yeah, man, and then we started. It was crazy. This is mine, huh? Yes. I like Greenstown. The drinks just appear out of nowhere. Yes.

The drinks, huh? Yes, sir. The vibe. The vibe. Let me ask you, do you think you should have won the Grammy? Yeah. Yeah? Of course.

Why not? It was me, like, you know, reading the comments. A lot of people agree with you. They think that you should have won the Grammy. Of course. I mean, that's Bob Marley. How many Grammys do you need? Right.

Like, you're the number one artist in the Jamaica verse. In the Jamaican universe, you know what I mean? You're the number one. This guy sits on iTunes number one every day looking at us like this. Literally. I mean, if you look at his album, that hardly moves from number one. Like me, yeah, I moved it a couple of times, goes back up. Another artist come, move it, it goes back up.

That's Bob. How many Grammys you need, man. And if you think about it, my story is an amazing story. Yes. 13 years out of prison. Yeah. Getting nominated for the album that I did in prison. Coming out, getting a US visa, walking the red carpet. That's a real story. And we know the Grammys is also political as well. It's a beautiful story.

It's a success story. And that could have been the- And Carson and I saluted you on the red carpet. That was dope. Exactly, that would have been the icing on the cake. Am I bitter? No, hell no, that's Bob Marley. And personally, I think he was the only person

who could have beaten me. You know what I mean? So, no. And the last time you're gonna be nominated. Exactly, that's not the list. But you asked a question like back in the 90s. I had to answer. Here's the question there for me.

For me, I love this movie. But every time I ask somebody from the island of Jamaica, they tell me they didn't even see the movie. On Shata's? No. Shata is a legendary movie. Bob Marley, no. Bob Marley movie.

Like every time I ask somebody, did you see the Bob Marley movie? Like a person from the yard. The new one, the new one. They'll be like, yeah. They were like, no, I didn't see it. I mean, I've seen clippings of it, though. Like you didn't see it?

Like, none of that? Yeah, but I've seen a lot of clippings. Okay, though. Look, you ain't seen it. Like, none of that. Yeah, but I've seen a lot of clippings. Listen, listen, listen. I need to understand this. Can you explain this to me? Why people... And I think you explained it to me a little bit. You said, I think people from Jamaica

knows Bob's story so much that they didn't want it to be. Yeah, and he's so iconic. But for us, like, if... a Biggie movie just come out, right? I'm from Queens, I'm not from Brooklyn, but I'm going to go see a Biggie movie. Why isn't the people... Noriega thinks he feels the need to tell me where he's from. No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, my brother. Yo, this is crazy. We're on pause, we're on pause. We're on pause, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. But why don't people from the yard go watch Baja's movie? I don't understand it. I mean, it's personal, I'm sorry. Why don't people from the yard go watch Bob's movie? I don't understand it. I mean, it's personal, man.

OK. Like you said, we know Bob. We know we grew up hearing his life story. Even a lot of people in Jamaica who did watch the movie, they were like, oh, why didn't Cindy break spare, which is June O'Gunsman? Why didn't she get more time in the film? Oh, it is because Rita did the film.

So yeah, so it's that serious in Jamaica. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, there's no people have their favorites, man. Yeah, because Bobby's that big. Right. Now, what is the difference between reggae and dancehall? I mean, first of all, the beats.

You know what I mean? Dancehall I mean, first of all, the beat. You know what I mean? Dancehall, as a matter of fact, dancehall came about on reggae beats until it found its own niche. Some would say, with punani rhythm in, I think, 86, we changed the beat itself. But yeah, yeah, but reggae is more political,

more social, you know what I mean? More against the system, more rebellious. While dancehall is just like sex. Drugs. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? I like it. Violence.

More sex. That's what you're talking about. Fucking yeah. You heard Noreen fucking with you. It's deeper than that. It has many layers, obviously. It gets deeper. Yeah, obviously. Because you know what I mean? But yeah, I think dancehall is Reggae's unruly cousin.

You know the one from the projects? Yeah. Yeah, that's dancehall. Younger cousins. Yeah, the younger cousins, very young. Reggae is the OG. Reggae's the older big brother. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

He smokes pipes. Yes. Yes, yeah. The younger dancehall is, fuck that roller. It's a flip. But dancehall's an OG now, too. Yeah, of course it is.. They split. But dancers are OG now, too. Yeah, of course it is. I mean, they've been around since the 70s.

What's my man's name? I told you I showed a picture of, and I called him Doctor, but he's not a doctor. Muta Baruka. Muta Baruka, right? I seen him. You ever, you think you ever do his show? Of course I'm not afraid to do Muta's show.

Muta's iconic in Jamaica as well, you know. Yes. Especially among the Rastafari and the reggae community. Yeah, so he was saying, like, how much of reggae is the OG. But I guess we kind of like stepped on that already, right? Yeah, you can't dispute that. Yeah, we can't, right? No, you can't dispute that. Plus, it's coming from Moato.

It's coming from a legend, too. But he's right. Reggae is the OG, man. Right. But I think, and this is the OG, man. Right. Yeah, but I think, and this is the topic that's been discussed, it's been going on for years. Should dancehall have its own category?

And I think yes, because Sean Paul isn't reggae. We'd more classify him as dancehall. Yes. And he's international. You know what I mean? So we have the criteria, we have big international dance all stars as opposed to a Junior Gong who's reggae,

as opposed to a Bob Marley who's reggae. You know what I mean? So I think we could have our own category. And you, Valenty, dance all. Dance all. Buju was dance all as well. Like, poor dance all apart. And the artist could go back and forth.

Yeah, we can because I have reggae tracks as well. You know what I mean? So it's a thin line, but I mean, it's there nonetheless. When you said Buzhu was dancehall, would you ever do an album, like a Till Shiloh album, but on your own, you know? I mean, when I say was, maybe that's a strong choice at first,

but what I mean, he was only dancehall. Hardcore dancehall. Unfettered and, you know what I mean? Piggy talk, tell me say yo. And then he was like, Tilt Shiloh, we jump, drop stuff on our high name. You know what I mean? So he made the transition.

And he was super successful as a dancehall artist and super successful as a reggae artist. Not many people do that, right? You know what I mean? So yeah, yeah. Would you make an album like that, a Til Shiloh album, or? I mean, I'm, I'm dance all forever, man.

I doubt that, but I do reggae songs. And I love reggae, but I'm dance all forever. You know what I mean? So, yeah, yeah, that's not gonna change. Do you think you'd do a tour with Beanie Man? I mean, if the money's right, I'll do a tour with anyone. That's true. You know what I mean?

It is what it is. I'm gonna say anyone. I mean, any Jamaican artist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, any hip hop artist. Any R&B artist. You know what I mean? South black music, Afrobeat, like, come on.

You and Busta Rhymes on tour would be crazy. Oh, that's my G. That'd be fun. Yeah, he actually told me, like, yo, we need to sing some dates together, like. Wow. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he actually told me like, you know We need to sing some dates together like Front seat That's a good point you made to, because when you said, now I'm going to watch it. See, you can't just be an artist,

you got to be a fan of the music as well. Got you, make some noise for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that what you said. Yes, I ain't going to lie, man. I would, if you and Buster Francis were to do a show together, I swear to God, I probably wouldn't even call him,

because he'd be like, yo, come perform. And I'm like, no, I'll be front row like this with hoodie on like this. Yeah, yeah. So the fans don't see you because they still need your space. Yeah, yeah. So I'm gonna keep it a hundred with you.

How many babies you think you made off of vibes, just your music? I'm talking about, I was listening to your shit and all you do is talk about fucking. You like this, you like the fuck. Yes, sir. You like the fuck. Let's clap for that.

Yeah, let's clap for that. But, but, but, yeah man, like I said, like in Jamaica you have artists that do songs for the girls, and then you have artists like me that go hardcore sex. I mean, I have songs for the girls. Right, yes. But a lot of my songs is like sex. You know, Chabarangs? Yeah, I know him. I'm like Chabarangs. Then, like, he songs for the girls. Right, yes. But a lot of my songs is like sex. You know, Chabarangs? Yeah, no. I'm like Chabarangs. Then, like, he was like the man.

Every other song, pussy pussy, fuck fuck. But I mean, artistically done, obviously. It's not like you're reading from a book, like, pussy pussy, fuck fuck. No, it's music. So you got the flow, you got the sound poetic, you got to be on the beat, you got the cadence, articulation, yeah, all of that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was funny as shit because we were working out, see your music, and all my white neighbors kept coming up and I was like, pussy, pussy, bruh. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I don't know what to say. Yeah, yeah. I had my, when I was in America back in the day,

I had security, right? You know, these giant looking guys. So some of them were Hispanic. So the dude came to me one day and he was like, yo, Cartel man, I figured out your songs. Right. Your songs are the ones that say pussy, pussy, every two lines. I'm not figuring all this out.

That was like, yeah, dawg. He's like, he's like the code. Yeah, he's like, he'm gonna put pussy, pussy every two lines. I'm laughing, you know. That was like, yeah, dawg. Yeah, he cracked the code, that's what I'm saying. He cracked the code, but yeah, man. Dancehall, like I said, dancehall is like that. It's hardcore. How many babies you think you made just over your music? Like people just- Just people do something.

Yeah, just pop in the place. Okay. Yeah, yeah. What population? Yeah. 19, 20%? Of the, hell yeah. Of the, hell yeah. Of the, hell yeah.

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. It's bigger than Jamaica. But people say that even in the comment section, people would be like, say I post a old song. Right. Say Ramping Shop. Right.

I pay your kids to it. Someone be like, oh Cartel, I made my son Jamal to that song. Yeah. Like, literally in the comment section. Yeah. And I mean, Virginity, that's a big song in Jamaica that I did as well. Ladies coming, oh, I lost my virginity to this song. I got pregnant to this song. Yeah, they be in the comment section. I'll see you in the comment section. Confess it. I don't think of that. Now that's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here we go. Here we go, man. That's crazy. And that's why people call you the world boss. In my opinion, they say that you can make love music, you can make thug music, and then you can make club music.

Yeah, man. You can do anything. Then like I said, I do a few reggae joints. Right. Yeah, yeah, we do everything, man. It's music. It's like I said, I do a few reggae joints. Yeah, we do everything, man. It's music. It's like I say, I sing my truth and my experiences. Those have to be firsthand all the time. Right.

Can be a second. You know what I mean? Me and you in the streets or something happened in the community, sing about that. We do it in a way because remember, it's universal. I mean, it's like hitting your elbow on the wall and feeling that shock. We all go through the same stuff.

Yeah, the funny book. So it's like once you have been through it, chances are a few other people have gone through that. It's relatable. Yeah, so that's how I attack music from that more personal kind of, and that's why people love my songs, the dance off. Because I tap into that personal part.

Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Speaking of that, let's talk about your debut album, the Up To The Time album, you know? So you don't want to just drop? No, no, no.

No, that's way back. Okay, way back. 2003, I think. How do you, do you remember creating that album and what was going on and your mind state? I mean, like I said, in them times, oh, because when I came out back then,

a lot of people didn't understand my style. Exactly. Because dance hall was changing and I was one of the kids at the time that was changing the flow. So I got a lot of pushback from the industry, from the gatekeepers. So when that album came out, the kids just ate it up.

And that's how Vibe Skirtle became like a young G back in the day, because the flow was different. Because you know, in like say 90s dancehall, the typical template would be like, oh no no no no no no no no no no no. Vibe Skirtle was like, inna me call can I? No, me inna me close fitting clarks.

Me shoes not cheap like chicken parts. Check out me Valent I? No. Me inna me close fitting clarks. Me shoes not cheap like chicken parts. Check out me Valentino summer shorts. Muskinna button shirt with the hearts. Fendi glass cast 80 Dutch marks. Did you call them a pre when me a pass? Who dat all you? Them have me inna dem tarts.

Barbara Glued and dem call a hax. Who is Vibescartel? And dem make it recommendation and remarks. Some say me ugly like Bubba Sparks. Some say me a di best dem come across. Illegal firearm a fiberglass. Sonny rush me ugly like Bubba Sparks. Some say me the best them come across. Illegal fire armor, fiberglass. Sonny rush me with no knife or ass. This plus me equal your life or loss.

You know, crazy rhymes like that. Yeah. As opposed to like, this is early 2000 we talking about. So yeah, so that album when it came out, the kids ate it up and I became like instantly a household name just for that. Because like I said, we grew up, the generation before me wasn't into hip hop like that.

But my generation of the 90s, we grew up to like I said, the KRS-1, Biggie Small when he came out, Tupac, Jay-Z, Nas. And the changing of the flows. Changing of the flows. So we kind of had the ear to like, oh wow, you can say, you can express yourself like that. You can say that. You can jump out of the pocket, come back into the pot.

Exactly. So that's where Cartel came from, like as a product of dancehall and hip hop. Yeah. So yeah, it was crazy. I was going to say, I could see why Syph was trying to compare him to Eminem, the Eminem of Jamaica. And that's all Carter. Exactly. And that's like 25 years ago. You know what I mean? So yeah, it's crazy.

I don't like that comparison, by the way. No, but I know what he meant. I'm talking about the flow. I know what he meant. The fact that he can do anything. You know what I'm saying? We always said Lil Wayne. You know, that's who we always compare.

Lil Wayne is fire though. How does he even come up with that shit? Which is what people say. You know what I'm saying? Like we always said Lil Wayne, you know? That's who we always- Yo, Lil Wayne is fire though. Like how does he even come up with that shit? Which is what people say to me in dance halls. Exactly. But when I listen to Lil Wayne, I wanna see him talking that same question.

Like, how the fuck? It's crazy, man. But yeah. Who's your favorite hip hop artist right now? Of all time Tupac. All time Tupac? All time. That's why this is Gaza sign.

I got this from Pac, cause remember back in the day, Pac used to love to throw this stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And funny enough, why we use it too, because I'm from Portmore, which is not really Kingston, so we're like outsiders.

Especially back then. We're like, yeah. So yeah, so we had the gaza. That's crazy. What would a Bob's Cartel 2Pac record sound like? Oh, that would be crazy. That would be crazy. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

I got the worst. Is that shit called volume in the world? Yes. Cypher sounds in the building! Make some noise. You see. Holy, what's up Jenna? Yeah, man, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here.

I'm here, man, you good? I'm great, I'm fine, man. I'm doing drinks, champs. So you know how that go. I'm telling you, it's a pleasure to be here, Syfe. Trust me. Thank you. You started it, you and Rosenberg, remember?

The interviews as I came out, they did the very first one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So now I'm at Drinks Charms live, so I'm drinking. Yo, Syfe, where you at? I'm on the gate, sorry for the sound, man. All right, Alright I just want you to know I'm the king of the dance hall they come see me. They get the pizza and they come see me alright. You know where the burger cut off man get out. That's my friend. That's my friend.

Trust me. Now, I was asking you about the Brooklyn Parkway Parade. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, in New York, this is like the biggest, biggest, this is like, for the Jamaicans, it's like their summer jam, right? Oh, the West Indies Day Parade. I did it back in the day, youade. The West Indies Day Parade. I did it back in the day, you know. I did it back in the day.

Okay. Yeah, yeah. But them times, like I said, I was a young artist, Elephant Man and them guys was running the place in the dance hall first. Right. Yeah, yeah. What do you feel about reggaeton?

I love reggaeton. I don't understand shit they saying, but the flow is similar to, the flow is similar to dancehall, and the rhythm, the beat is dancehall. I love it, man, I have no problem with it. I love it. Have you collaborated yet with anybody?

No, not yet. Oh, that has to happen. No, not yet, but I love it. You know what I mean, the vibe, the energy, yeah. When it comes on in the club, I mean, we don't stop like, what the fuck? I'm like, I don't even know what I'm doing. I'm fighting.

Yeah, man. Can you name a reggaetonthemed record that you like? Hell no. Okay. I was right. Well, I know Daddy Yankee, though. Okay, okay. Because he was the original pioneer,

or one of the pioneers. Okay, yeah, yeah. So we knew about Daddy Yankee, and as Jamaicans back in the day, that made us feel patriotic to know that, oh, these guys are patterning our shit. So we did- Oh, wow, Daddy Yankee, that's a reggae name?

I didn't even peep that. Remember Daddy, even the Daddy too. Yeah, Daddy Yankee. Daddy Yankee. Oh, I didn't even peep that. Think about it, cause Jamaicans call American African-Americans Yankees. Yeah, I didn't know that.

And then you put the Daddy on it. Yo, you fucked me up. Daddy screwed you with Jamaica terms. I screwed you up, today you're alone. I didn't even peep that, oh my God. I've been on tour with this nigga for three years. I didn't know that shit. What the fuck is wrong with me?

Holy shit, oh okay. Okay, how about Afro Beats? I love Afro Beats. What's your favorite Afro Beat record out right now? This, I don't know if I should sing it. She's saying she wants him to make her sweat. Water, that's his song. Wow, yeah. Tyler, yeah. And I love the girl called I should sing it. She's saying she wants him to make her sweat. Water? Oh yeah. That's his song?

Wow, yeah. Tyler. And I love the girl called Thames too. Thames too, yeah, yeah. I think she won Grammys for, she won at the Grammys the other day. Yeah, I was there. Yeah, I love Afrobeat.

Whiskid, I got songs with Whiskid. Right. You know what I mean? Burn Up, no, I don't think I have a song with him, but he's big too in Jamaica. And Shata Wale from Ghana, came to Freedom Street. Fuck the place up. He love him.

Yeah man, that's my bro man. So yeah, yeah. I mean, it's African music, all of it. Hip hop, dance hall, reggae, taunt. It's literally called reggae. All exactly, salsa, merengue, all of that shit. Come on, jazz, whatever, rock and roll, it's black music. It's African.

Because we have Buju Bontan on, and Buju, he was like that, he don't feel like that sometimes reggaeton or Afro beast give dance hall and reggae as props. So that's something that you don't agree with? No, it's not that I don't agree, but think about it. Reggaeton is called reggaeton. The Harvest is but think about it. Reggae town is called Reggae town. The homage is even in the name.

Reggae, Reggae town. You know what I mean? So the homage is there. I mean, I think what, and this goes to show the power of Jamaican music, because it's a numbers game and Jamaica is small. Look up what we tell them. You know what I mean?

Nigeria has what, Over 200 million people? Yeah, they're going to get their own slot on MTV. Africa's a continent. It's a fucking continent, right? Nigeria has 200. More than 200 million. I didn't know that. Yeah.

That's huge. I think I'm going to go ahead and say it has like maybe 230 million. So of course MTV's gonna recognize. All them niggas are scamming niggas. All them niggas are scamming shit. Allegedly. Allegedly. To allegations.

Yay! Huh? 300? 244? Two, I'm off by like, I'm off like six now. You really know the teacher you're teaching me man. Yeah, that's why they call me the teacher. Yeah, but seriously, it's a numbers game, so they big.

So they're gonna get the MTV special, or MTV Africa. While Jamaica's like 2. something million. It's not feasible, but we still influence Nigeria. We still influence Ghana. So that just goes to show the power of the music that comes out of that small island. Mm-hmm. It's deep.

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This is My Legacy. No, it's very deep because I'm going to tell you right now, I've been island hopping and everywhere I went, they was bigging me up for my dance hall interview. Interesting, right? They hit you everywhere. Exactly. So what I'm trying to tell you is,

as small as Jamaica is, like how you just said, it still runs. That's what I'm saying. Like it runs that whole thing. That's what I'm saying. Like everywhere I was at, and I was feeling like honored. Everywhere I was going, they was like, I'm that boy, too, man, good hook, good interview.

And they start crushing up, you know. Yeah, yeah, that's how. Yeah. They're crushing up. No grinders. No grinders. We doing it door to door. They're allergic to grinders.

Yeah. So, yeah man, but Jamaica is very influential. Very influential. Very influential, man. You wanna play Quick Time of Slime? Let's do it, man. You don't have to take shots if you don't want to. You can pick, you can pick.

You can just drink, or you can drink. Yeah, yeah, you can take a sip. You have got some egos? Oh shit, no, we got fever megos. Okay, let's go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two choices. If you pick one, nobody drinks.

Yeah. But if you don't want to answer or you want to say both of the people. Everyone drinks. We all drink. Yeah, I know. I know how it goes, man. There we go.

I'm a fan. Yes, thanks, Shane. Thank you very much. All right, you ready? You ready? I want this one. Go ahead. Mm-hmm.

Because I feel like you already did this already. Bounty killer or Bujubanta? Look at mine. All ready. Fever. Fever. All right. Woo.

Fever's good. I tell you. Oh. I thought they'd been good. OK, you can take the next one. Yeah, Fever. Terry Gunzee or Grimesman? Grimesman.

Yeah, he originally did Ben Sponani, which I paid homage to and used the hook. So, and he's from Portmore where I'm from. Definitely Grimesman, but big up Terry Gansi, the outlaw. Yep. Tupac or DMX? Tupac. Rest in peace to both, bud.

Yeah, all right, Pete to both, yeah. I don't want to ask this one. Bob Marley or Peter Tosh? Oh shit, I like this shot. That'll get the point. And you got the next one too, sir. Beanie Man or Ninja Man? Ninja Man.

Go ahead. Black Ryan or Popcorn? Mmm. Woo! You know the more you drink this, the more you... Yeah, I can see that. I'm ready to hear. Let me do this one.

Go ahead, go ahead, yeah. Rush On or Not Nice? Let me do this one. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Rush on or not nice? You got to turn him into an alcoholic, man. This shit is crazy. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Fever, it's the fever.

I want the E, I want the E. You guys are right, man. Tiny shots. Yes. Go a long way. Shit. Go ahead. Jay-Z or Nas?

Nah, you mixed Jay-Z. You mixed one, right? No, no, he did that one. Shit. Go ahead. Jay-Z or Nas? Nah, you mix- Jay-Z. You mixed one, right? No, no, he did that one. No, he did, that was popcorn, it was the last one. No, no, no, he did the- He did that? Okay, my bad.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Rasta. Definitely Jay-Z. This one is a no-brainer. Teach us pet reality show a Thug Life movie. Don't leave the witness. Teacher's Pet Reality Show. You're talking about my Thug Life movie?

Before I became famous, back in the day when everyone was broke, I did the worst fucking movie. I'll tell you that. Yeah. It was crazy. Yeah, Thug Life, I got shot, I think that. Yeah. What's up? It was crazy. Yeah, Tug Life, I got shot.

I was in bed laughing. That was your acting? You got that? I have terrible acting skills. I have terrible acting skills, bro. Trust me. And you were paying homage to Pacman, right? Tug Life?

Yeah, yeah, Tug Life. Like I said, yeah. I even have it tattooed somewhere. I got work. Talk about Teachers' Pet. Talk about Teachers' Pet. How was that experience? Teachers' Pet was crazy, man.

Like, I mean, it was, it could have, looking back, it could have been a good experience. It was a good experience. It was a good experience. It was a good experience. It was a good experience Pet. Talk about Teachers Pet. How was that experience? Teachers Pet was crazy, man. I mean, it was, looking back, it could have been way better, but like I said, I was the first person to do it. So we didn't have a template.

It was like the flavor of love, basically, but you- Yeah, but we didn't have a Jamaican template for it. Yeah, so I did it. Even to this day, people like, when are you doing it over? You just come out of prison, you should be doing it, not getting married. So yeah, people love, that was big back in the day.

Especially with the songs, Pussy Pussy Pussy. Yeah, fuck, fuck, fuck. I mean, it goes hand in hand, man. Yeah, trust me. I got one, Kendrick Lamar or Drake? Damn, you should put it all the way down. No, we, Drake. I see you say Drake before.

Yeah, he's been in Jamaica too, man. Yeah, you said every block you go through, you can hear a Drake record. In Jamaica, you can hear, you may not. Not saying he's not talented. But you know, Drake has that commercial flavor and he's like the hip hop Michael Jackson. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, Drizzy.

Plus he did a lot for Popcorn and he rips the culture. He rips Jamaica culture. To the point where people started calling him culture vulture, but like we don't feel that way. It's not in Jamaica. No, not in Jamaica, bro. That's a Tommaso influence as well. Yeah, because Jamaicans are all over the Big East Coast.

Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it is what it is. This next one. I got this one. No, no, no. All right, go ahead. I got this.

Because I was looking in my closet for my clocks. Yeah, boom, boom. Blah, blah, blah. I couldn't find them. I got a brand new pair of New York Yankee clocks. And then I said, I might be going too far. Yes. But clocks or Adidas?

No, that's not Adidas. That's not Adidas, buddy. That's Adis. OK, my bad, Adis. My Adis? Yes. The shoes I used Adidas? No, that's not Adidas. That's not Adidas, buddy. That's Adi's. OK, my bad, Adi's. My Adi's? Yes. The one that shoots at you, cement back in the day. How you know that?

Come on. All right. Adi. Adi. The nigga said, come on. I put him in the town. Come on. Busting my balls over here.

I love my job. You right? I love my job. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. I love my job. Yeah. You right? I love my job, yes, yes. Yeah. Talk about the Addies though, cause what inspired you to have your own shoes?

I mean, just like I said, I love money, but it's deeper than that. Like I said, we grew up on hip hop as well, and we always admired how these guys come from poverty just like us. Now they're rappers, they have their own shoes, they have their own, you know what I mean, brand. So you were seeing that first in the hip hop scene?

Yeah, in the 90s, yeah, yeah, yeah, and that inspired me, of course. You know what I mean, like I said, my generation is the first generation to have cable TV. So that influences the theater community. Yeah, so when cable came out in Jamaica, we were like 14 years old, being the first generation to be able to watch BET and AJ and Free.

Yeah, yeah. 106 and Park. 106 and Park. Yeah, so we were- And Rap City. Rap City and all of that. You hear how loud he got with one of these? He's like, 106 and Park.

Yeah, because we was- It changed Jamaica landscape and it added to the culture as well. He was like, oh! Oh! Oh! You know what I mean? So yeah. It's that, yeah. It changed Jamaica landscape and it added to the culture as well. You know what I mean? So like I said, yeah. Before us, there was just one TV station in Jamaica. So the Gen...

So my older sisters, they grew up on one TV station that signed off at midnight. Crazy, right? Wow. And Clarks, I know, their sales had to go up after you got there. Yeah, yeah. Well, I remember Clarks, we were a British colony, so Clarks has been embedded in the culture.

I just brought it back. Exactly. Because like I said, when the cable TV came, this came. Or the Jordans. Jordans came. Sneakers came. Jerseys came. So, a lot of it was lost to the kids who came out in the late 90s.

They came out wearing Jordans and so on. So when I did Clarks, it brought back that old school style. Yeah, that's why it's still so big to this day because it has always been in the culture. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Okay. Let's see where we at. Dre Skull or Super Hype? Dre Skull, but Super Hype is my regency. Dre Skull, me and him did Kingston's story album. That was crazy.

Mm-hmm. Sizzler or Capelton? Two legends, man. I tell you. Yo. Yo. Did you drink? I'm watching you. I'm right here. Oh, okay. Yes, yes.

Okay, so she's right, but it's right, yeah. But big up, Switzerland, Cape Town, man, you can't talk. No, those are giants. Yes, man. I'm gonna play a song. Those are those are giant. Yes, man. Hold on to a song. Oh, it was the best intro of all music.

And that's all. That's me. I think so, yeah. It's all right. Yeah. Those are the words you want to take forward. Can I tell you? Wine Mon.

Wine Mon. One man. Come on. Is that live? Oh no. Anything is possible. It's Jim Chance. It's Jim Chance. Come on man.

Let me tell you how much, we're getting right back to Quick Time of Slime, but let me tell It's June's challenge. It's June's challenge. Come on, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on. Come on. Let me tell you how much. We're going to get right back to Quick Time of Slime. But let me tell you how much your fans are your fans. Yes. I posted, like, with multiple stuff. Yes. And all I did was post a little bit of this right here.

I wanted to go, Vibes, come on. They're like, Vibes, come on. The minute that they heard that you got your visa. They was in our DMs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's going to do chicken. Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, OK, I got you.

I don't fucking know. But before we get back into Quick Travel Slime, I just want you to know. Yeah. You know, I've been doing this for eight years. So I've been studying. Nine years. Nine years, excuse me.

I've been studying people's fan base. I study people's drinks, I study people, whatever. And I tell you, your fan base. That's crazy. Are crazy. Imagine Beehive on weed. It's my fan base. Barbie's on fucking fever.

Exactly, weed. I got mad. Exactly, right? Shit. Yeah, man, that's why I tell them, man. They are not respectful. They're like, we had dropped the episode. Like, we ain't even recording the episode. They made the episode late.

We ain't recording it. Yeah, man, that's calisthenics, man. They're crazy. And you know that because when I explain that to Lil Wayne, Lil Wayne,'t actually understand. I had like almost tell him his fan base, but you know your fan base because you know why they was writing you in jail and all that.

Yeah, yeah. Let us appreciate. My fan base is crazy, bro. Like me. Back then, that's the cartel he was talking about. That's my fan base, they haven't evolved with me. They haven't evolved. They're still evolved with me.

They're still dark as fuck. No, it's okay, bro. You know what I mean? I like it like that. You can pull a Trump right now. You can tell people, you go to motherfucking the court right now. No, don't say that.

I'm on a visa, sir. Okay, I forgot, I forgot. Moving on, moving on. Yes, yes, I'm not gonna tell them that. Drink water and mind your own fucking business. Yeah, he can't. Oh shit, can I get a straw? Yeah.

Why? Why? You know what just happened. Damien Marley or Steven Marley? Damien, that's Junior Gong, man. Come on, big up Steven still, but Junior Gong, like the younger kids, a lot of young kids in Jamaica even say Junior Gang is badder than Bob Marley

because he not only sings, he DJs, he raps. Because he grew up different. I mean he grew up in between Miami and New York. He's a world citizen. Big up gang. Shaba or Supercat? Shaba. Supercat or Badman, though?

Man, Supercat as hell. Yeah, but like I said, remember, Shaba is more my, like, for the ladies. Right. So Supercat is a real, I mean, I'm a hybrid, because coming up, I was naturally gangster, but I do a lot of songs for the ladies. And it feels like Super Cat was one of the first artists

to really get into the hip hop. Yeah, and yeah, of course, because even Heavy D was friends. Heavy D, and Biggie's first track is on that too. Super Cat's remix. Yeah, sometimes some of them are really about to get rude. Who are you to tell me to take back that track? Dolly, my baby's remix. And Dolly,'m back on some of them and I'm like, you're back for your route. Who are you to win the tape back?

That's a... Yeah, man. And Dolly Ma, Dolly Ma, baby. Yeah, Cat is a legend as well. Yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah, that's from the Ninja Man Super Cat Shabarank's era. Right.

When I was like 12, 13, coming up in the 80s. Yeah. Yeah. Extension, royalty, or M&M? Which song? Which song? yeah extension royalty or Eminem which song which song because royalty is a song which Eminem song oh white trash white trash party white trash party This is on you from here on out, brother. Why you guys write this long ass shit like that? Because it's cartel, man. That's right.

That's right. That's right. Now, look at how spaced out these individuals. They don't like to fight each other. Y'all don't cover that one up. Oh, is that a Jamaican? Couple of seconds. What the fuck?

OK, I get it now. I get it. It all makes sense now. Aishana or Shenci? Aishana, but Shenci a legendary young artist. As a matter of fact. You break Shenci, you know. No, I didn't break her.

A producer that I recorded a song for called Ludie. He basically stole the song and gave it to Shenzia to sing. But this is when Gaza fans, my fans, really had a problem with Shenzia. When she came out and said she wrote the song. As if she wrote for you? No, as if she wrote the entire song. OK, OK.

So you wrote her verse too? No, it was my song. So I record the song for you. You give it to a girl. So all she did was change the verses. So if I say me, she said her. So she just changed like the pronouns. You know what I mean? And then someone leaked the original song

when she was saying, oh, Cartel didn't write my part. I wrote my part. And she released it. Someone leaked the original song, I wrote my part. And she released someone's original song where I wrote everything. That's why God's Nation fans had a problem with her initially. Well yeah, she cool man.

I've never met her in person though. You didn't? I remember I was in prison them times. Yeah, I told you, it was in prison. I didn't see it, I didn't see her. Yeah, because you recorded that feature for her in prison. I recorded that song in prison. Oh, wow.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Elvis, who was the producer, gave it to Shenzia. So they left my hook, and she just sang my verses. Right. How did that fit, did you, what did that vex you? No, I wasn't vexed, and I wasn't happy. It was just like, yo, I need my money. I need my money.

Yeah. So I wasn't angry ored and I wasn't happy. It was just like, yo, I need my money. I need my... Yeah. So I wasn't angry or sad. I was unpaid. Sir? Yeah, so that's all I needed. But yeah, big up Shenyang. And she reps, anywhere she goes, she shouts out Cartel too. Always.

Yeah, to be in her defense. She does. But Spice is the number one pick up Spice, queen of dance. Yes. She been on the show? Not yet. I need her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. Reggae or dancehall? Dancehall, forever. Go ahead. You should take a shot for action, man. Go ahead. You should take a shot for action, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, let's take a shot for action.

We knew this dance hall. Hmm. This one is... Fire. Don't say Trump or Biden. No. No, we don't want no political shit, neither. Exactly.

We are not ready. We need you to keep your visa. Yes, sir. The shots are here. Don't worry. I'm gonna preface this by saying we have some foul friends, right? Yes.

I'm the only vegan I tell here, right? Oh, you're vegan? I tell, yes. A little bit. Sometimes he eats shrimp in LA. Allegedly. Okay. Allegedly, allegedly.

You were Jamaican, born in Jamaica? No, I was born in New York. My parents from Jamaica. Okay. He a Yankee, man. He a Yan man. So you're a Yankee basically. So you're a Yankee. Yeah. So as a vegan do you eat pussy? I'm just checking. To honesty man. Because pussy is meat.

What? So you can't be a I'm just saying, I'm just saying. So what happened, what you just going through your head? Yeah, you was asking me a- I was leading that up because the reason why they gave me this fucked up question. Yeah, they gave me this fucked up question. It's not that crazy bro, come on, just ask them the question. Jerk chicken or curry chicken, what the hell, that's why they gave it. No, that's a deep question, man. Take a shot.

Yeah, take a shot. I'm Jamaica, how do you- Yeah, man. You went too crazy with that, man. How do you fucking... You went too crazy with that, bro. They gave it to me though. That's the fire part. They gave it to you. They wanted us to drink.

What Jamaican? How are you going to decide between curry chicken and jerk chicken? I can't do it. Are you mad? I can't do it. I went to a store in Kingston and I see the Chinese man. He said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, blood clad. Yeah. I said, you could be a blood clad. I could be a blood clad.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jamaican Chinese are the toughest, though. Yeah, they tough. They think they Jamaican. Yeah. Hey, blood clad, boy. Konnichiwa, motherfucker. Konnichiwa.

Oh, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. The locks or dip set? The locks is Jada Kiss, right? Yeah. I'm glad to yeah. Okay, the locks or dip set? The locks is Jada Kiss, right? Yeah. I'm glad to say Jada, but you? I don't know, Jada.

Sorry, sir. Jada? I love Jada. Why does Jada sound like an Italian fucking mafia? With that voice and that cadence, which is one of the reasons why his art is so... Yeah, it's very true. Yeah, man. He's pristine with his lyrics. Yes, man, and the one of the reasons why his art is so... Yeah, very true. Yeah, man.

He's pristine with his lyrics. Yes, man. And the sound of his voice. Yeah. It's crazy, man. Raspi sound, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, man. You take the next one.

That's crazy. Carrots, want to slick Rick? I respect that. Oh, you want to take two for the culture? Yo! That's that fever, man. I like it in that. I like it in that.

He took one for Caris one and for Slick. And for Slick earlier, man. Those guys are legends. I'm like, I'm not that young. So, you know, I grew up on those guys. No, they're absolute legends. All right, Jordan or LeBron? Jordan.

That was easy. LA or Miami? New York. Sorry, guys. No, no, no. No, sorry, guys. I respect that. I love it.

I love it. I love it. I'm Jamaica. New York, Brooklyn, Flatbush. Come on. You're going to take a shot for that one. Sorry. You got shot. You don't have to take All right, you're going to take a shot for that. That's you guys shot.

You don't have to take a shot. I'm going to take a shot for your ass. There's no shot. Hold on. OK, OK. No, but that's why we got to take a shot. That's why you got to take a shot. That's why we got to take a shot. We're trying to be smart over there.

Yeah. Y'all not smart over there. He's like, one plus one, three. Yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Salute. Yeah, salute.

Cheers to you guys, man. Love New York. Yeah, man. You got the next one? Yeah. You know the Gaza version of salute is actually tables. That's what we say. So I say tables?

Yeah, because we don't do chairs. Okay. Tables. Get it? Chairs. Huh? Tables, chairs, what we say. So I say tables? Yeah, because we don't do chairs. Okay. Tables. Get it? Chairs.

Tables, chairs, chairs. Oh! Yeah, yeah, yeah. We do tables. I like it. I didn't make that up on the spot. I'm going, I'm going, I'm going. Like some of your previous guests.

Analog or digital? Analog. God damn, let's make a noise for that. You're talking about the sound? Analog. The analog, you had to be in the same studio together. Exactly. That vintage sound, it's warmer. I mean, if you grew up on digital,

you're not going to know the difference. But if you grew up old school, you're going to know the analog has that warmer sound. So what they used to do in Jamaica, when the digital sound came out, they used to still run it back on the 24 track after they mixed it. And then they mastered on the 24 track.

And they still press it on dub plates. Exactly, yeah, we still do that shit. Yeah. Okay, one. Oh no, this is yours, this is the last one. Okay, that is the last one. That is Chico. How many questions are those? Yeah. Since no, this is yours. This is the last one. Okay, that's the last one. How many questions are there?

21? 50 cent shit. Let me add one. Okay, go ahead. 22. No, it's not pink. It's fuchsia. Or salmon. No, not salmon. Ah fish, no fish. Ah!

Yeah? Next is Jamaican. You went over your head, George. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God!

Oh, look at how you made a good Jamaican. He's like, I know you. Ah! Yeah, yeah, yeah. He picked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sean Stormer, Matt S Sus. Are these empty? Nope.

Are they? No, they got some. Ah, man. Nah, those are, yeah, those are, there you go. He's asking about, one is my brother, one is my son. No, I look. That's three shots. Give us a Mad Sus story, though.

Mad Sus is crazy, man. Like, I raised him. That's three shots. Give us a mad sus story though. Mad sus is crazy man, like I raised him. So when he came up from the country, he was like nine, 10 years old. Oh wow. So he came to Portmore. So coming from, just imagine you coming from fucking somewhere in the country. Right. And you end up in Brooklyn.

Right. In 1980 fucking six. Exactly, so he came up and, I mean he held his own, he grew up rough, just like the rest of us. We actually went to prison together, and he lost his mother while we were in prison. Yeah man, I cried man, like, and like I said, I cried twice in prison.

When my baby mother's mom died, and when Madsou's mom died, that shit hit us like hard, bruh. Even my grandmother died when I was in prison and I didn't feel it. Like, because she was an old lady. She was like 90s. Like she had lived her life.

She had lived her life, right? Right, right. Yeah, but when Madsou's mom died and Shorty's mom, that shit hurt. Yeah. Did he, is it true that he created the laughter? Ah! Yeah, because remember, we're a group, you know.

And he did, he invented the world boss. Oh, okay. World boss. Yeah, so yeah, like I said, I raised those kids. So yeah, yeah. When he came out, you know, I got him a fat Benz and gave him an apartment because my life is dope and I do dope shit.

You know Kanye West said that, right? I got that from him. Yeah, I don't know what. I think Dave Chappelle gave that joke. And I was watching it in prison. Yes, yes. Yeah, and I heard Dave Chappelle say it. And I was like, oh, shit, that's dope. Yeah, and I heard Dave Chappelle say it, and I was like, oh shit, that's dope.

Yeah, so Big Up Kanye, I like Kanye too. So this is the last one? You guys need to collaborate. Yeah, I like Kanye, he's a lyricist. You and Kanye, and then production-wise, like that would be crazy too. Yeah, he's also, yeah. I saw him once play two pianos at once,

like some black Mozart fucking, crazy. Big Up Kanye. And now he's back a billionaire, he's on some shit. Yeah, he's back to being a billionaire, right? You saw him at the Grammys with his wife. Yeah. When she- Drop the top!

You lucky I'm not in prison, bitch! Yo! I'm joking. I'm joking. Yo. I mean, I think he might even appreciate that to a degree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, if he does, I'm not joking. I'm just saying.

Oh my God. It's real shit though. That was real shit though. Yeah, man. Kanye is crazy, man. But I guess that's part of being a great artist. Artist. Right?

Yeah, yeah. You got to be fucked up. I mean, not baby. You got to be fucked up. You got to be fucked up. You got to be fucked up. You got to be fucked up. You got to be fucked up. You got to be fucked up. You got to be fucked up. Yeah, man, Kanye is crazy, man, but I guess that's part of being a great artist. Right? Yeah, yeah, you gotta, you gotta be fucked up.

I mean, not baby all fucked up, but. Right. Too soon? Yeah. Bam, bam, bam. Interesting. I'm just. I wasn't ready.

You weren't ready? Yeah, I wasn't ready. Sorry, sorry, sir. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. Oh, what the baby? You weren't ready? Yeah, I wasn't ready. Sorry, sorry, sorry. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The fever.

It's like your fever, right? Crazy. Well, it's not Quick Time of Sly. Yeah, no. Oh, it's an asked question. Asked question for Quick Time of Sly. Then we get back into the interview. Yes, sir.

Loyalty or respect? Loyalty. Loyalty. Loyalty, I believe in loyalty. Because you can respect me, but if you're loyal to me, I know I'm safe around you. Respect that. You're not gonna call some dude, oh, he's here,

come rob him and shoot him like they did at the two-park in New York. Right, right. By they, I mean, I don't know. They. They. They don't want us to win. Exactly.

I correlate to the other thing too now. But yeah, loyalty, man. Yeah, of course. Loyalty. I believe in that. And that's why, that's why it was strange when you asked me that question about Shawn Storm. That's one of the most loyal people I've ever met.

Oh, wow. Yeah, I mean, but Gaza is loyalty though. That's how we roll, you know what I mean? Let's make some noise for that. True. I'm so excited. How did you guys come up with calling it Gaza? Yeah.

It reminds me of Noreen saying, left-rack Iraq. Oh, well, first of all, in Jamaica, Gaza empire. The poor boy kid can tell you, Jamaicans, a lot of us, especially back in the day, we were well-read and we watched everything that's happening in the world. So on a street corner in Jamaica can be called Tel Aviv. Tel Aviv like Israel.

Like from Israel. In Jamaica, you have street corners called Mexico, Little New York. Amongst yourselves. Flatbush. Amongst yourselves. Yeah, that's what's like the street corner amongst ourselves, not like the official government thing.

So where I come from in Waterford, you have Boston, you have Flatbush, you have Mexico, and then you have Gaza. You know what I mean? So we got the name literally from the Middle East. Is it given because of a reason though? Yeah, because of that struggle, man. That struggle, okay.

So you're emulating something that- You're emulating something. That's why a lot of these street corners in Jamaica have those names, nicknames. You know what I mean? So you have Red Square. That's where Sprague Benz is from. You know, Red Square is Russia.

You got Little London down there. You got Mexico. You got Vietnam in Seaview We're bounty killers from Seaview Mountain View. Yeah, Mountain View that no, no, those are real names But on a street corner in in Seaview you would see Cuz we graffiti the place so you would see Vietnam. Yeah. Yeah who lives in Tel Aviv Sprague Benz, no Tel Aviv is South Spraguebens lives in Red Square.

Which is like I said, the unofficial name. The corner. Which is the Russian. Spraguebens, you know, big entertainment in Jamaica. I've been to Seaview, Mountain View. You've been to Seaview? That's your bounty killer song. You've been to Tivoli. I watched you saying you went to Tivoli Gardens. With Dodo.

Yeah, I saw that. Hell, fucking it. You went to Tiffany Gardens with Dudu. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah, I saw that. Hell, fucking it. I saw that. I watched that shit in prison, bro. You big, like, your podcast is big in prison, in the streets, everywhere in Jamaica. Oh, come on, let's make some noise for him.

Remember, when you fucked Jamaica up as a rapper as well. Yes, yes, I ain't gonna lie. Come on, man. I'm not gonna lie, dude. Norrie? Yes. When they told me, they said, man, because what, what, what? Yeah. Super Thug had to be going crazy with it. All those sounds.

I didn't know Jamaica loved, I guess because it's rowdy. Like I said, yes. That's it. That's why Jamaica's so groping. And they created it. Yeah, yeah. That's why I said when you said Miami or LA, I said New York. Right, right.

God damn it. God damn it. Yeah, yeah. But I love Miami you said Miami or LA, I said New York. Right, right. God damn it, God damn it. Yeah, yeah. But I love Miami because it has the Jamaican climate. Yes. And the palm trees and the big bodyguards. We are very Caribbean here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very Caribbean.

Can I say very demure? Demure? I don't know. It sounds very mindful. Right. Yeah, moving on. Okay, so what does it, what does it, Garnus says? Garnus? Garnus? Garnus.

Garnus, like one of the most dangerous hoods. Garrison. We call it Garrison. You know what a Garrison is? That's like a ford. It's just a Ford or... It's just a real word from back in Roman, from the military. Military, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, Garrison, and you was locked up in there? You went to one of the toughest Garrisons, though, Tivoli. That's what I was telling you. Big me up. Yeah, man, that's no joke. Bro. That's... Yeah.

But you were locked up there. Yeah. And then that night, when he came to see you, Buster Ronald shot a video there that night? This nigga Buster, the man came to the fucking prison, which is in another garrison called Southside. Okay, that's what I was trying to get you. Yeah. Okay.

And he shot the video outside the prison. Whoo! I'm in the prison talking to the G on my phone, on my cell, in my cell. Like, yeah, man, stand up there, so I'm going to send two men come link you. So I'm telling them I'm going to send two Like, yeah, man, stand up there so me. I go send two men come link you. So I'm telling them I'm gonna send two dogs

to come link you, make sure he's safe. And yeah, he was crazy, man. Yo, buster, yo, buster, give him a clap. Give him a clap. That's my brother. That's my brother. That's my brother. Big up buster, he's never scared, man.

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about their remarkable journey. Listen to My Legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. This is my legacy. I'm not going to lie to you. Not only there, but I remember when you first coming out and I remember a bust of going on hot 97 and literally telling people vibes cartel is the next man, yo, please get on vibes cartel.

I remember this shit from the beginning. He believes in me. Like, trust me. Like not only believes in you. Yo, please get on Vibes Cartel. I remember this shit from the beginning. He believes in me, man. Trust me. Not only believes in you, he loves you on some real level. Yeah, my family thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man.

And you spoke about how y'all met, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But once he came to Jamaica, we was like instant. Because the respect, and you remember, he's Jamaican. So both his parents Jamaican, but he was born in Brooklyn. So he's basically Jamaican. He's basically Jamaican. If you're born in Brooklyn, nigga, you're Jamaican.

Even if your parents are from fucking Dubai. Once you, yeah, once you in Brooklyn, you Jamaican. Like, I'm in Miami, I couldn't get a Cravenet. All they had was this. Marlboro. If I'm in Brooklyn, Cravenet is sold in every shop. This is Guinness, right? Yeah, Guinness.

That's Jamaican, like our style. Dragon style. Dragon, beer, Red Stripe, Heineken. That's not from Irish? Yeah, but remember, Jamaica is like our style. Dragon stuff. Dragon, beer, Red Stripe, Heineken. That's not from Irish? Yeah, but remember, Jamaica is a British colony. That's right. It's a British colony. So we share.

Yeah, you want to smoke a cigarette? Yeah, smoke a cigarette. Thank you, sir. The first man. The first man, Eugene Chams, to smoke a fucking cigarette. You come down, Sonny D. You only. If he's not the producer, he can't say shit.

No, no, no, no, no. No, you can smoke. You can smoke. You only. Hey, hey, hey. Which is fucked up. No, which is fucked up. Because it's not Jamaican.

So you, I don't know. That's not Jamaican? No, that's what I said. If I was in Brooklyn, I could have gotten the Jamaican cigarette, which is the Cravenet. Cravenet, you don't smoke the Cravenet. Even the comedian said it the other day.

You better start Cravenet. Even the comedian said it the other day. The man was like, yo, there are more Jamaicans in Brooklyn than Jamaica. Yeah. And he's not lying. Yeah? Yeah.

Because there's a lot of white people that go to Jamaica right now. They're saying that it might be a Puerto Rico without Puerto Ricans in a little while. For real? Yeah, they're saying that that it might be a Puerto Rico without Puerto Ricans in a little while. For real? Yeah, they're saying that it might be a Puerto Rico without Puerto Ricans. Oh, that's...

Because they're kicking all the Puerto Ricans out because of the tax. Gentrification? Gentrification and... Yeah, yeah, above the whole island. And tax purposes. Because if you lived there for more than six months... It's a tax haven.

Yeah, so if you lived there for more than six months or several months, you don't have to pay no U.S. tax. That's crazy, because in Jamaica, I think they work out a deal with the Chinese that you don't pay taxes on your business for like five years. So say you're a Chinese guy, right? Highly unlikely because you're dark skinned. But just say you're a Chinese guy.

He Chinese. Don't hit you. Why do I keep using Japanese slangs? Fuck you. We're Chinese. Yeah, yeah, it. Anyway. You come to Jamaica, you open a business. Say you get five years,

what do you call it? Great period. Not to pay taxes. In the fourth year, you send for your cousin from fucking Beijing. They replace him. And put him as the CEO of the company. And the company's not paying taxes. And the company's not paying taxes.

So the company's not paying taxes for another five years. And they bring the next one after that. And then the next one after that. Yo! And that's when you have the craziest Chinese Jamaican's ever. Exactly, bombaclad! I'm gonna be honest with you, I see, I was watching, you know.

This is a fake bombaclad, that's not how we say it. Yeah, I was watching a construction site in Jamaica. Yeah. And then they had nothing but Chinese workers coming out. And the Jamaican guy was like, yo man, look, they won't hire us. My thing is this. I have no problem with Chinese nationalism.

The problem I have is with the lack of black people's nationalism. Right. But we're not going to go that deep. Fuck it. It's string champs. Yeah, string champs. We're not going that deep.

Fuck that. Things could be better. Things could be better. Yes, they can do better. The government can do better. They can do better. We already spoke. Did he just say the government can do better?

You don't want me to go back to Jamaica, FN? Oh, no, not that. Strike it from the railing. The government. We already spoke. Did he just say the government can do better? You don't want me to go back to Jamaica, FN? Oh, no, not bad. Strike it from the race. From the government. No, but me and the government, good.

They treat me good. Like I said, I came out, I changed up my whole thing, and I'm good. That's why I'm here now in America. Cheers to change. That's right. Cheers to change. Cheers. Salute.'s right. Yeah, man. Cheers.

Yeah, man. Salute. Yeah, man. Salute. And we know you about to get married, but before that, let's talk about Short Boss. Yeah. Shorty.

Shorty, yeah. Two of you. Yeah, that's my baby mom. I've been with her since before I got famous and rich. But I mean, like I said, you see, prison is dangerous. Because you know, when you go to prison, shit gets weird. And like I said, she held it for years. And then she couldn't hold it anymore.

You're talking about your baby mom? Yeah, obviously. Why would you be talking about him? So she got caught slacking then. Yeah, but I still respect her. Because I understand human beings. Think about it. Human nature. Yeah, but I still respect her, I still, because I understand human beings. Right, right. Think about it.

Human nature. Okay, think about it. Your woman is in prison. One year goes by. No, let's not use you. You look like you fuck even when a woman is at home. This dude looks like he's in the fucking, by the pool house fucking a bitch.

But yeah. I'm not in this. Ruff it, child. I'm not in this. Ruff it. Fuck for this sugar, so think about it. Evil people that love me, like she, I'm sure she love me. Cause she wrote to me, even when she was slapping,

I could still jump on my phone in prison. Shorty, go to the bank. Shorty, make sure the lawyer gets that. Pay this bill, give this person money, and she was there right through. But come on, I'm in prison for fucking 30 years. What do you expect her to do? Like, save the pussy.

It's not a hedge fund. I don't know, but yeah, yeah, but I forgave her immediately, because I understand. But I, yeah, but I forgave her immediately. Right. Because I understand. But I just had to move on. Right, that's what, that's, all right. Make sense?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big up, Shartie. I'm big up, Sidem. She's actually here. No, she's in Lauderdale, because I left her in Lauderdale. Oh, man. Yeah, so.

That's super mature of you too, for sure. Bro, she gave me three sons. Yeah. Come on. Big up, Shartie. My love heart. She made me cry as fuck though. You know, I was in prison.

The other person was like, what are you worried about? It's crazy man. And that's what people love about me because I just speak my truth and then I put it in music, fuck that. I only live once man. So how you found out? My other baby mother.

No. My life is crazy. No, seriously, man. Other baby mother told me, oh, you fucking hyping up shorty, she fucking some guy around. Like literally. Did you literally hear it?

No, I didn't. You know men are idiots when it comes to, when they're in love, they were fucking clowns. Yeah. The real shit I remember. Am I lying though? I don't fucking believe it. That's what I'm saying.

But yeah, yeah, yeah, she gave me my sons, they do music too, Little Vibes. Little Addy, yeah. Yeah, yeah, they do the music and the other baby mom that told me the snitch, she gave me my... She gave me my... She told me the snitch, she gave me a nice stuff. But yeah, I mean it. Well, I'm just living man. And I take the good, the bad, the ugly. Yeah man, it's like, that is the identity right there.

But for everybody who was watching, right? Yeah. Like, you know, from the outside looking in, it looks like you never cracked. It looked like you never folded. No, while I was in prison, no. Like I said, I cried twice. Right. Honestly, when Shorty, her mom died, because Shorty's short, boss.

When her mom died, because she was at every court. Every time I was in court, she was there. Even when I told her, don't come, she was still there. Bro, I cried like a bitch, man, when she died. And also when Mads's mom died, because those women are like Gs in the community. You know what I mean? Matriarchs.

Yeah, they're matriarchs. Even Dapper Slices, man. That's how Jamaica runs. Even those days when we was not behaving ourselves. And when the cops came, like Dapper's mom was naked. Like, yeah, like, they're innocent. Fuck! Like, leave the community.

Jamaica's another beast, man. Yeah, it's crazy. And the women, they represent for us. All right. Yeah, so to black women. God damn. Give us a round of applause. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, Ansh.

Yeah, man. It is what it is. No one smoke. I've never seen someone smoke. No, no, no. No, no, no. I think, well, Dave is a different beast, man. He's my favorite comedian.

We were at his part. Yeah, we were, you were in fucking Michigan, Ohio. Yeah, I watched that. It was... Black Star. Yeah, and that kind of... Mos Def. Yo, Mos Def bad, you know.

He's like a sizzler, a Bush banter. How he raps, he's like a Bush banter. Like he's deep. Yeah, very deep. Without trying. Without trying. Like it's very nonchalant. That was a. Yeah, very deep. Without trying. Without trying. Like it's very nonchalant. That was a good interview though with Mos Def,

Dave Chappelle and um. Taleb, Taleb. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, he didn't like Kanye was breaking about his hat. Oh, Taleb? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he seems like he's a fucked up guy.

But his music is amazing. Yeah, man. Yeah, even Dave said it like, this nigga is fucking... Yeah, he's crazy. He's like Jordan. I was watching an interview with Chameleon here. The first time he met Jordan. And Jordan was like, Jordan, can I take a picture? And Jordan's like, nigga, you got money?

Or some shit, yeah. The story's about Jordan. He got a story with Jordan. You know the funniest story about him? I think it was Jadakiss was saying he was dabbing everyone. And like, the dude was like, yo, is this, like he picked up, like is this dude with you?

And Jadakiss was like,, you know, he has that rest He said you No, that's crazy. Man, you? He's a Norrish Jamaican. Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy, man. So shout out Norrish, shout out Jada. I actually spoke to him. Jada? Yes.

While I was in the National Stadium in Jamaica. Oh, wow. I don't remember someone put him on FaceTime. Yeah. Wow. And we was talking, yeah. Big up Jada. Yeah, I'm not respecting lots, man. Because I'm just being honest, man. When you say you're the world boss, it means it, man.

Yeah, man. Like it means it. And like you said earlier, you said the people who named you that. Yes, the people who gave me the name. I like that. The thing about it is, you know, everyone in here, it's every nationality in this goddamn room.

Yes, man. Because everybody wants to be here to make sure we give you your flowers because you deserve this. You are the world boss. Blood. Yeah. Yeah, man, I like that.

Yeah. And we so happy, like, you know, it's so inspiration for a person, you know, from the hood that can maybe make a wrong turn. Take that turn and then come home and then reestablish. Like, I didn't hear you complain. No, no bitterness. I didn't hear you no bitterness.

I hear you came home, went straight back. And it's amazing. It's amazing, like, to see what you're doing, to see how people are following you. And it's amazing. It's amazing to see what you're doing, to see how people are following you. And it's real. It's like, you don't even have to claim your throne. No, no, no, no, no.

The people claim it for you. Thank you, sir. And that's what's crazy about it. You know what I mean? But is this anything you will, I know you said you don't have no regrets. No regrets, yeah. But is there anything you thought you could do better?

What was one of those things? Watch short boss pussy more. I should have put dudes on her like private eyes, like undercover fucking agents to wash the pussies. That's bad. I had time. I had time.

And I'm going to be honest. When I met Siedem, that's my current fiance now, it was 2015, July 25th. You all met while you was in jail? Yeah, in prison. That time, me and Shorty was going through a lot. Because remember, I'm in prison. I'm fighting Graves' disease.

Even now I have it. That's why I wear my shades. Because sometimes, like, even now we're smoking, my eyes, it would irritate me. My eyes would get swollen. Yeah, straight up. Because we're human. You know what I mean?

And Shorty, Sidem was there for me. And like I said, I understand Shorty's perspective. Think about it, you're in prison two years. I'm gonna hold it. And she did, three years, four years, five years. Six, seven, bro, eight, nigga, nine, dog, 10? Come on, man. So that's for me, like I'm a realist. And what was you originally sentenced to? Dog, 10? Come on, man. So that's for me, like, I'm a realist.

And what was you originally sentenced to? How many years? Thirty fucking five, bruh. It was life, man. It was life. We had 35 before parole. So I would have, if things went how they wanted it, I would still be in prison. So like I said, and Sidem was there for me.

We spoke on the phone night after night, days on days she was there. And in Jamaica, when someone represents for you while you're in prison, you don't forget that though. You're going to hell. So, but my thing is this, I understand people, which is one of the things that has made me be a great artist, I understand people, human nature.

Right. So I could never be angry with my baby mom. I love her still, respect her, because she raised my kids. And based on the person that I was, a lot of people would expect my children to be gangsters in the streets, shooting guns, whatever. She held them down, man.

None of my son. Like I said, I was in prison with Mavado's son, who is my son's best friend. A lot of people don't know that. So even when me and Mavado was at it, feuding, fighting, and the whole Jamaica was divided, like his son and my son were like this. I'm telling you, bro, even when I was in prison,

Mavado's son was like, yo, say hi to Jaheem for me. Da da da da. Yeah, so yeah, big up, big up, my father's son. Enough respect, enough love to the Goli God. Yeah, man, it's. I want to be. Yeah. What is happening?

I'm going to be like. Dante, free Dante. I want to talk about that. I want to talk about that period because I feel like we just breezed over. No period, that's a monthly thing for me. You're right, you're right. Back time.

Yeah, I wanna talk about that time. We just breezed over it. So, um. Back time, sir. Y'all taking fall. Yeah, yeah, we fucked up in Jamaica like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gaza versus Gully, you know.

It got so serious where the government had to intervene. Yeah, the government stepped in. They weren't giving us permits to do concerts. They shut that shit down. They were like, bro, but funny enough, when Mavado and I were at the King's house, which is where the government is, so we were there and they were like,

yo, you need to shut this down, let the kids know, because the kids took it very seriously. Like, Biggie's small tool park, East versus West, 2.0 in Jamaica, not even joking, I'm talking about it. I remember. Serious, you know that, he knows that. And the government was like,

bro, we will shut you guys down. Stop fucking about. But them times when they took a break in the meeting and me and my father was in the government building and we were like, yo, look where music brought us. And that's when we had a moment and it was like, yo, we need to fix this. And we did for a few months.

You had another intervention happening. Yes. So what happened? The war started again. Why? Because we're black people and we have ego. And we come from nothing and now we're rich. So you know what black man and his ego. Of course. We have something to prove.

But yeah, man, and we did the fighting again, round two. The government came in, they did us, I mean, they shut down everything. And then Dados, Dados. Tivoli. Yeah, Tivoli. Yeah, he was like, yo, let me speak to you guys.

And we did the meeting. And he was like, yo, for real, man, we need to chill. When Dennis come home? Soon, right? Yeah, he got arrested in 2010. Oh, so he should be coming home? Yeah, it was a big thing in Jamaica. A lot of people died.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know about that. A lot of people, soldiers came in. But I'm saying he should be coming home soon, right? Yes, he should be. I don't know when, but yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought he had a 10 minute. That's crazy, man. Dancehall is, the people in Jamaica, they love Dancehall.

They take music seriously. Which is good, because that's why, if you're a star in Jamaica, you're a star forever. You have no expiration date. That's how much we love music. You're revered. Right, right. Yes, you're revered.

And I go as far as to say this. Worship like next to Jesus. You know what I mean? What was it like? If you're a star in Jamaica, you're a star all over the world. That's true, that's true. Yeah, because I just being honest,

as your cousin, I see the influence that Jamaica has around the world. Around the world. Not just as entertainers. Remember Marcus Garvey did this. Marcus Garvey, that's right. He toured the entire Latin America. That's why we big in Panama.

We big in Latin America, Costa Rica, Venezuela. Minister Farrakhan is from Jamaica. Farrakhan? But he's Jamaican. He's not from Jamaica, but he's Jamaican. Yeah, but he has his Jamaican heritage. Because remember, like I said, funny enough, Marcus Garvey, you know who who was his right hand man? Elijah Muhammad. He used to run the Detroit office of the UNIA for Marcus Garvey.

Oh, really? No joke. I kid you not, bro. That's crazy. have always had that influence in America with our cousins, the African-Americans. We've always had that influence. You know what I mean? And like I said, the Honorable Elijah Muhammad was Marcus Garvey's point man in Detroit. And for people that don't know, that's the founder of the Nation of Islam. Exactly. And Malcolm X founder of the Nation of Islam. People don't know about it. And Malcolm X's father was Marcus Garvey's right-hand man. Wow.

You know they tied him to a train track and let the train run over him, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy, man. I remember. Yeah. How can you remember you weren't there? No, no, I'm talking about reading it. I said, I'm reading it.

Yeah, yeah, me too. I'm reading it. I'm reading it. I'm reading it. I'm reading it. I'm reading it. I'm reading it. I'm reading it. Yeah, yeah, me too. We should have turned it. Yeah, yeah, literally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had to. Literally.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just one today in Malcolm X autobiography. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where I read it. Alex Haley, The Roots. To be honest. But look, yeah. That's where I read it.

Look at the photo. You can tell that there's influence by the cover of the book. Yeah, I did this literally. Look, Malcolm X, The Pose, which is the album, Bob Marley did this pose as well. So I'm sure he was into, because Bob Marley sang a lot of Marcus Larvey philosophies, put it to music, and he puts the highest philosophies, the speech that he made at the United Nations,

sometimes it wasn't called the United Nations, it it wasn't called the United Nations. It was called, I don't remember. United niggas. United niggas. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Bob Bucla, he Bucla.

Let's talk that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Bob Marley, that's why Bob Marley's so powerful. Because you know his mix, his dad is white. Yeah, yeah, I'm white. Yeah, yeah, I'm white. I'm Bob. Marley's black. He had to navigate through that racial tension

back in the day when in the 70s in Jamaica, 60s, if you were light skinned, you were kind of frowned upon. Right. Yeah, yeah, so man, we love Bob though. Like, our generation, respect Bob. He represented for Marcus Garvey. He represented for Selassie, Kylie Selassie. Yeah, even when I was in LA,

like the Ethiopians, they came to the hotel. Cartel, we love you, brother. Yeah. But let me ask you, I asked this to Chris Brown. Oh, represent, big up Chris Brown. He won fucking Grammys, man. He won the Grammys. Yeah, yeah.

My favorite song on the album is Residual. So who said yes? I knew, yes. Yeah, Big Up Chris Brown, man. Okay. Yeah. So I asked Chris Brown, man. Why do I not have a drink at a drink challenge?

Come on, come on. You slacking, Brownie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Brownie is slacking. Brownie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Brownie is slacking. You know Brownie, right? Like Skin Girls in Jamaica, we call them Brownie. Okay, okay.

Yeah, yeah. That's a Aussie, man. Which is the Boojoo Bites that made that famous when he did Brownie. J.B. called Brownie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the whole Jamaica. Then he fucked me up.

I put him on the bed. Yeah, the whole Jamaica wanted to fuck him. It was like, Buju. And then he did Black Woman. A song called Black Woman. Remember? You know, stop crying. Say, you know Black Woman.

Yeah, yeah. So yeah, man. So that's it. It's crazy, bro. Dinesau, we set the trend. And we navigate the culture. So big up all of the legend then. Okay, before I get into this, right?

Now, the second festival, Freedom Street. Yeah, oh shit. You said London, right? Okay, let's forward to the third one. Let's say it's in Miami. Yeah. Who would you put book on that freedom? Call that Black.

Mmm. And East Caribbean as well. And from Haiti. East Haitian. We love Haitians in Jamaica. Yeah, don't say it. South Pacific. We're still here.

Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! And Haitians have always been, because Caribbean, the most powerful countries in the Caribbean, like Jamaica, Haiti, Trinidad.

Remember Haitian Black? Yeah. New York. Yeah, Haitian Black, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, we- Haitian Jack. Haitian Jack. Sorry. Yeah, Haitian Black, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we- Haitian Jack.

Haitian Jack. Yeah, Haitian Jack. It's the fucking Ro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The female, the female. The fucking Ro. Haitian, yeah, yeah, yeah, Haitian Jack. Right.

Yes, sir. Yeah, man, the culture is real in the Caribbean, man. Yeah. And we share the love. Yes. I was in Trinidad the other day. I was launching the Straight Vibes. Yes. I was in Trinidad the other day, I was launching the Straight Vibes. So we launched it in Trinidad, Guyana, Barbados, St. Lucia, and I'm doing the St. Kitts music

festival, so we're launching it there as well. Congratulations. We heard, that's when you came home, at first we heard you was in St. Kitts. Yes, no, St. Vincent. St. Vincent, okay. Because I went to visit the Prime Minister, he sent for me, private jet, everything. Oh, you're still on us right now. Yeah,s? Yes, no, St. Vincent. St. Vincent, okay. Because I went to visit the prime minister. He sent for me private jets, everything. Oh, you're stunned on us right now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I am, I am. I'm starving like Jackie Chan. Because he does his own stunts, right? Yeah, he does. So yeah, we went to St. Vincent, met the prime minister. He calls himself world boss. The prime minister? The prime minister of St. Vincent.

Fucking fun fact, I got a call from the Prime Minister of Guyana, he was like, Cartel, me and you is the world boss. Oh shit. Not that guy. So they more renounce it. Yeah, because that's how, that's what I'm saying, it's like the unity among the Caribbean islands.

It's like Japan, you know, they have like a million islands, but they're still Japanese. Right, like Okinawa. Okinawa, Sapporo, Nagoya, you know what I mean? So that's how the Caribbean is. We have that unity, you know, the calypso, the dance hall, at least among the English speaking. Hey man, bring Cuba in there, bro.

We need help with Cuba. You notice that's why I said English speaking. The Cubans and Jamaicans are still very- There's a part of Cuba that there's a lot of Jamaicans in. Nine out of 10 doctors in Jamaica are Cuban. Yeah, yeah, because you know they do good medicine, right? Yeah, because they get you know they do good medicine, right? Right, yeah. Yeah, because they get it from the Soviets.

Well, not Soviet now, because that shit is all over. Yeah, USSR. The Russians. Yeah, you remember USSR, right? Yeah, Reagan fucked that shit up. Do you eat doubles? What? Do you eat doubles?

I love doubles. Doubles is like fucking... No, seriously. Doubles in Trinidad is like jerk chicken in Jamaica. That's why when he said jerk chicken or curry chicken, I had to take the shot. Right? Oh, I like that girl. Who is she? Oh, Trini.

We line in. She knows the Trini. You real pretty gal. That's my best Trini impression. Shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we lyin' in dread. I know.

Dream champs forever. But you fuck with doubles. What's your favorite version of doubles? My favorite version of doubles is the one that that dude don't like. But seriously though, but yeah, like when I've been to Barbados, I had shark. Yeah. Bacon shark or something? Yeah. In Jamaica, we have crocodiles. You can eat the crocodile tail.

You ever had that? No, this is Florida. I'm sure you guys. You can eat the crocodile tail. You ever had that? No, this is Florida, I'm sure you like. You don't eat crocodile? I tell you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How the fuck you not eat crocodile? That's racist, that's allegatiracy. That's allegatiracy.

Big one, Skilly Beck. No, Skilly Beck, yeah, big one, Skilly Beck. Yeah, but yeah, that's how we do it. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how we do it. You know what I mean? It's crazy. Yeah, yeah. I know. My bad? Yeah, I know. So, can you explain to people that listen to this, listen to the reggae music, listen

to the dancehall music, and listen to the Rasa Fara'a culture. Yes. You can love reggae, you can love dancehall, you don't have to be a Rasa Fara'a. No, no. love dancehall, you don't have to be a Rastafari. No, no. Oh, no. Even Morgan Heritage, they had a big song in Jamaica. You don't have to dread to be Rasta.

Because remember, this is the dreads. I mean, this is fucking fake. But it's human here. I got this from my brothers in Africa. I don't know who died and gave this. Oh, my God. World boss! World boss!

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But reggae music is the DNA for Jamaica. So is dancehall. Because remember, like I said, dancehall came out in the 70s. Right. 74, 75, 76. I was born in 76. So I'm a product of dance hall.

Right. And also the Cold War. Because remember the USSR and USA, they had that thing and that's what honestly brought that level of violence to Jamaica and changed the culture. And then when the violence came, you needed an art form to express it.

And that's how the dance hall was born. Who were those first early dance hall artists in the 70s? King Stitch, Big Ude, which Big Ude's son is the lawyer that got me free. Oh wow. Think about that. He's one of the first DJs. Wow.

And his son freed the number one DJ, Ice Hat Buchanan, right? Think about that, that's crazy, man. The appeal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when he was in law school, he was telling his friends that, oh, I'm gonna free Five Scartell. And he actually did. Wow. Mm-hmm, he was telling his friends that, oh, I'm gonna free Fy'Zkartel.

And he actually did. He actually did. What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it? The two political parties?

JLP. JLP. And the PNP. And the PNP. The JLP is the political party. The Labor Party. The Labor Party. The Labor Party.

So they were conservative. They were Republicans and Dominicans. Yeah, they were conservative. They were conservative. Yeah, they were conservative. So they were Reagan at the time. So you had basically like Russia's camp and America's camp. Which is the PNP. Basically.

That's why PNP even to this day, they call themselves socialists. Right. That's why you're saying the violence started. Yeah, from the edge. Cold War. Just like Nicaragua with the Contras. The proxy war. The Contras and the Sandinistas. Sandinistas, yeah.

Sandinistas. So it was that proxy war all over the place. Happened in Congo, too, with Lumumba. Happened in Kenya with Kenyatta. So it's that thing, like, you know what I mean? You are the teacher, man. I am. You are teaching me, you bad shit.

I ain't gonna lie to you. It is what it is, man. I'm sitting there like this, looking at my program. That's why the people love me, putting you in my program. That's why the people love me, because they believe in me. Because I'm not gonna bullshit them. I keep it real.

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So let me ask you, when Escobar was locked up, right? Mm-hmm. They said that like one night every two or three months, he would come out. He would do something. Yes. Within your 13 years of doing the bid. I got lots of pussy. Oh, damn. I didn lots of pussy. Oh damn. I didn't go there.

Oh, sorry. He's like, bro, I'm answering the right question. If you had like how Escobar did, he came out one night every two months. If you ever had one night. You talking about Pablo? Yeah, Pablo. I'm sorry.

I mean, he's only one Escobar. Well, I'm Jamaican, there's no Pablo. As a matter of fact, remember you said Vibes Cartello is a group. Where you think you got the name Cartello, right? Cartello, yes. From Escobar. Yeah.

Cali. Cali Cartello. Yes. Yeah, yeah. So if you, like with every two months, if you could come out and do one thing within your 13 year bid, what was that one thing you would do every two months?

Hug my kids, man. Damn, that's a gangsta ass. Hug my children. Hug my kids. Pussy wasn't the problem. I don't know if I can say this now. No, you can say it. You can say it, because I'm free.

Yeah, yeah. So double jeopardy, you can't take me back. So yeah, pussy wasn't a problem. Pussy was, I'm packed up. So you was fucking all out, yeah, yeah. No, not all the time, but yeah, yeah. All right, Ray Ray. Yeah, Ray Ray, exactly, but yeah.

Psst. Yeah, man. Like, that's the only thing. Because remember, in Jamaican prisons, if it's not Family Day, your children can't come and see you. Oh, wow. Because if you're not 18 years old, you can't come to visit me on a regular day. Oh, wow. Because if you're not 18 years old, you can't come to visit me on a regular day.

Oh, wow. They have things that they keep on family day, which is like in Christmas. Mm. You know what I mean? You need to see your kids on Christmas. Right. Easter.

Yeah, so we got like twice a year, I got to see my kids. Wow. Yeah, yeah. So that's crazy. But like, women, whatever. That's, but that wasn't on the top of my to-do list. My to-do list was to raise my fucking kids.

Even from behind bars. Even from behind bars. And that's why I say to you, my baby mom like Shorty, I give her her props. She did her job. She made sure, even though I was who I was, my kids didn't emulate my lifestyle. You know what I mean?

My daughter, like she wants to be a doctor. She's doing well in school and so on. So that's what I respect about my baby mothers. They weren't just, they put in the work. Respect, respect. How many kids total? I got it, huh? How many kids total?

That I got, like seven. Seven. I have two in Brooklyn, you know. In Flatbush. That's what I'm saying. That's why when you said Miami, I said New York. My children are in Flatbush. I've got two sons in Flatbush right now.

Big old blood clad Flatbush. Brooklyn forever. You know Brooklyn is Little Jamaica. Even though you're a Queens nigga. Yes, yes, yes. We're down to black. You, 50, Nikki, enough love. Yes, enough love. Nice.

Come on. Come on. That's it. That's it, man. Yeah. I know you say you don't regret nothing. I can't. Okay.

Because I'm still alive at 49 years old. What the fuck is there to regret? Come on, man. I came out of prison. Freedom Street, I kept Freedom Street with this white guy from Jamaica, it's called Joe Bagdanovich. He's not from Jamaica, it's obvious. He's from California, which is Scatter,

my other road manager. He's here, they go Scatter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we was planning, again. So we planned Freedom Street from behind bars. That's how confident I was that I was planning it, yeah. So we planned Freedom Street from behind bars. That's how confident I was that I was coming out. My fiance, Sydem, I sent for her in 2022. I was like, come live in Jamaica. She's from England.

She was like, oh my God, I don't know. Said my girl, Marit, you're fucked. Come on, Sydem. Yeah, I was like, I'm rich as fuck. I'm totally in Jamaica. So she came, I got her an apartment, got her a Range Rover, gave her some money, opened her bank account, and she came.

Because like I said, I've known her since 2015. So she came to Jamaica, yeah, yeah. And she's been here ever since. She's with me now, she's in Lauderdale. Right. Yeah, so- Just make some noise. Right. Yeah, so we were... Make some noise for her. Yeah, man.

Oh, that's the best. She was there. And this is how I know she was real. Even when I came out and I started posting her more often, her friends from England was like, yo, the high school Siedem would be proud of you. Because since she was in high school, she was like, oh, I'm gonna marry Vibe Scartell.

Oh, shit. Bro, I'm serious. You might include you. She's like a fucking, a Netflix fucking series, right? Yeah. That's what's gonna happen. Man, we're gonna pull and have a girl again. What are you?

Yeah, yeah, I'm a one burner. Yeah, one burner. In Jamaica, one burner is kind of derogatory because that means you only have one woman. And in Jamaica, that's fucking frowned upon. Oh shit. Oh shit. Yeah, like, what the fuck you doing?

Yeah, yeah, so big obsidian. Okay. She was like, big obsidian. Yeah. Well, you're making it hard for down. Yeah. Well, um. You're making it hard for me. Yes. When you left. That thing.

You're making it hard for me. Your kids was in single digits. Yeah, when I left prison, they was children. Yeah, they was children. When I came out, they gave me grandchildren. Grandchildren. You're writing your motherfucking interview. Yeah.

That's exactly what I'm saying. That's crazy. Congratulations on that. Yeah, they gave me grandchildren I'm saying. That's crazy. Congratulations, though. Yeah, they gave me grandchildren. Yeah, set my daughter, because she know I would slap the shit out of her. I'm joking, though. I'm joking.

It's alcohol. He's like, funny not funny. Funny not funny. But she's a genius, though. She's an A grade student. She's like a head girl, a prefect, whatever she, she wants to be a doctor. So I told her she needs to invent something

better than Viagra. Come on, man! Stop it! Stop it! So how does a chef is smiling? How does it feel to be a grandfather? How does it feel? I have my notes there. Hold on. I got to finish the liver in.

How does it feel? Because there were single digits, then they got double digits, and they gave you a... How did it feel when they told you you're gonna be a grandfather? It was amazing. I was in prison at the time. So I've never seen my grandson. So when they kept the family day, which is when you can bring your family there,

so they came and my grandson, he met me, he was like, I don't know you, nigga. You know what I mean, crying and shit. Gave him a piece of chicken. He took the chicken. I still don't know you, nigga. But it was crazy. So when I came out,

that's when he started embracing me. Because he saw how his dad, his mom, and everybody that he knew embraced me. So it was like, oh, fuck it, man. Yeah, this nigga is fucking gray beards and shit. Yeah, so, and then my son gave me a granddaughter. Then my other son gave me another granddaughter. Yeah.

Oh, you three grand? I got three grandchildren from my two sons. I got one. Oh. But you're American. Don't get no idea. In Jamaica, it's different. He just, pussy pussy pussy fuck up.

Yeah, it's crazy. So yeah, gotta big them up. God damn it. Yeah. Right? Yeah, man. Crazy. Little vibes.

Crazy. Bro, I like drinks, champ. Not just for the drinks. For the coffee. That's crazy. Bro, I like Drinks Champ. Not just for the drinks, but for the conversation. Yeah, the conversation. Yeah. Drinks Champ is everything I thought it would be. Because like I said, I was in prison watching everything. I watched the Neo interview, the Bush video, the Beanie Man video.

I watched all of that. Like that. And not just me, the entire prison. Yes. You watched K me, the entire prison. Yes, yes. You watch Koda Black? No, I respect him. Yo, Koda Black is, like I said, he's Asian.

He's fucking crazy. That's the Caribbean breeze. I think something is in the wind. Yeah. That makes us fucking crazy, bro. But look at Cardi B. Nikki. You invited Cardi B to your wedding?

Yes. Yes. I would love her to be there. And who else you wanted to perform at your wedding? Boojibanton, I told you guys. He's my number one artist. So Boojibanton and Cardi B. Have you guys spoken?

You and Boojoo since you've been out? Yeah, but we haven't met up. Really? No, I'm serious. I met Bounty Killer when he was at fucking Freedom Street. That's the first time I saw him since I came out. Remember this guy made me rich and clean. Yeah, that's it.

And that's when Bounty Killer said, he's the king of the dance hall. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. King of rhythm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but to be honest. And Bounty didn't like that. You see Bounty?

I'm the king of dance hall, but Bounty is the king of artists. Think about it. This man made so many people. If you know the Bible, he's like Abraham. Because remember Abraham created Christianity. It's the beginning. Islam and Judaism.

That's why they call it Abrahamic religion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Think about it. That's what Bounty killed. Yeah, Bounty killed his Father Abraham, bruh. I'm telling you, bro. Yo, you know what? Give me a clap for Bounty.

We found his best friend, man. That's a bounty killer. I'm telling you. So, all right, so we got- And Bini man, big up yourselves. Me love you, come in, bruh. Like, I can't lie. I'd rather not say shit.

So, like I said, Bounty, Beanie, Boozhoo, Ninja Man Cartel, that's a top five for me. I love that he puts himself in the question. That's a top five. He said, and me. And me, I tell you, why would I leave me out? You gotta know. Come on.

Why would I stop? Crazy. Holy shit. And Big Up Man manager, TJ. Why would I laugh at you? What is this? Crazy. And big up my manager, TJ. Big up your TJ. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Scatter. And Scatter's my road manager. But with TJ, we call him

the Grinch. And this is why. No, he steals happiness. Which is good. Because remember, you know, Norrie, we're artists. If you know, Nari, we're artists. If you leave us unattended, we fuck ourselves up. So that's why he's the balance. You know what I mean?

So Big Up TJ, he's the grinch. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got to give him props. He keeps me grounded. He keeps me focused. And he keeps me in check. The eye on the prize. Yeah, the eye on the prize. But he's not sit down, fuck you, nigga.

What is my bro? That's why when he finishes his interview, I want to play you a record because I need vibes on the record. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. Yeah.

Yeah, I like it. I got to take another shot. If you have it, you don't have to take one. No, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, Let me just tell you something. We're gonna tap the champagne. I've cheered you like five times. The champagne is at the same height. Ha ha ha! Here you go, that Michael! At the same height? I like it! You need to set the drinks refilling at the same height.

That's some AI shit. To AI! To AI! Ha ha ha! To AI! This thing is a little cheap. You got AI drinks! That's the Jamaican champagne. That's in AI.

She's very fucking... I like her. She's the official... Yeah, yeah, she's always here. VALCANTAIN! Nari, you know you're huge in Jamaica. Yes, I know.'re huge in Jamaica. Yes, I don't lie. Yeah, Jamaica is the hope.

I know you need to come to Jamaica. I'm coming, I was gonna say. No, not Montego Bay. No, no, no, stop. No, you're gonna come. I been, I been. Should do this with you. We was going to see you.

I know, I know, I know. Let me tell you something, we was going to see you and then the next 20 minutes they said, Bob Scottel got his reason. Exactly. Exactly. But we were on our way to see you. So you was in Montego Bay, The next 20 minutes they say, Bob Scott got his visa. They got his visa. They got his visa. But we were on our way to see you.

So you was in Montego Bay, but the part of Montego Bay that you were in, it's the tourist part. You knew the streets of Montego Bay. They love you. No, but that's what I'm saying. Kingston and Montego Bay is one in the same. It's just like New York, LA.

No, we're ready to go to the stars. It's like Brooklyn, Compton. The hood is everywhere. Before the fucking, TJ! When them call when the white gentrification. Yo TJ, can you sit over there? Cause he been looking for you over there. Yo, yeah, TJ.

In Jamaica, the number one meme in Jamaica is ask T.J. Because everything I say, I'm like, ask T.J. That's the number one meme in Jamaica right now. But he's my manager. Yeah, that's the guy. Let's make some noise for T.J. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We gotta do that. And this is why, Steve,

my first manager was the guy that introduced me to Bounty Killer. Remember I was telling you? The guy that drove you to him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Literally. He was your manager then after that? Yeah, he was all fucking Nissan. And I do the American pronunciation. Nissan. In Shereka we say Nissan, your blood.

Yeah. Yes. So, I parted ways with him in 2020, 2004. And I've been my own manager since. So everything I've done, since then, all the greatness, all the dying soul greatness, I did it by myself. When I came out, I made him my manager because I've known him since he was in high school.

I'm gonna tell you, in Jamaica, you have the ghetto and the hardcore part. And then you have the up, we call it uptown. Uptown in Jamaica means you grew a privilege. Like my children, they grew a privilege because I started making money. But I'm from the ghetto, he grew up privileged. Like my children, they grew up privileged because I started making money. But I'm from the ghetto, he grew up privileged. So his father is from the ghetto.

Made sure his children grew up good. Right. Fire. Yeah, so when I met him, he was just out of high school and he had a big annual event called orientation. So you know that's about school orientation, right? It's a school party dance where you dress up in your school uniform

if you went to fucking whatever, yeah. So my nickname was the teacher and that's how I met him. So I, and he was like, yo, I'm keeping a party. I want the teacher to pass through because it's called orientation. Then he started producing. I gave him his first record. He got Idonia, which is also a big artist in Jamaica.

And then he became a famous producer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Scat-Op, which is my road manager, he's actually here as well. He introduced me to Idonia. So, and then we showed the love, give the respect. Cause bro, Bounty Killer made me fucking rich. So I don't have a problem to pay forward.

Right. Cause Bounty Killer made me be able to take care of my family, move them out the ghetto, put them in some fucking mansions. So then we pay forward. So Scatter brought me to Idonia. I brought Idonia to Bounty Killer. And the rest is history.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Big up, Scatter. You know what I mean? When's the last time you smoked an American blunt? I haven't. You roll this?

Oh, yeah. Should I smoke it? I want a visa. Should I smoke it? If you fuck me up, American embassy in Jamaica. No, but you're American, so... It was rolled by the Peruvians. Peru, Peru, you rolled it? Peru, Peru. Ice might come get him.

My shit is legal. Ice might come get Boris. Boris is... So basically, you're telling me that this is only tobacco. Yes. Thank you, sir. It's only tobacco, people. It's tobacco. It's tobacco.

It's only tobacco. And you know how slave it was. Tobacco is king. Yes, come on. Disclaimer. If you're not black, you can't say nigger. Yo, vibes. I want to- Disclaimer, if you're not black, you can't say nigger. Right. Yo, vibes. I want to- Disclaimer.

I want to, you know, commend you because I see when you first came home when you battling Graves' disease. Yeah. And now you did the show and you looking amazing. Yeah. You feeling great. Yeah. Who could you contribute that to?

No, first of all, that's an amazing question because in the black community, speaking on illness is like taboo. Yeah. Because we had to be strong, especially mental illness. Right. And I spoke on that the other day,

but that's a good question. While I was in prison, I was diagnosed with Graves' disease in 2014. Can you explain what it is, just for people that don't know? Graves' disease is an autoimmune disease. It affects your pituitary glands, and I said pituitary because I'm drunk. But I would say this, though.

Jamaicans, you know this statement, time drunk but time not full. So Graves' disease is an autoimmune thyroid disease that affects your, it makes you sweat a lot. It makes your heart palpitate. It makes your eyes swollen. That's why I keep wearing my shades. Well, I used to wear my shades

because I learned from bounty kill. But it's very dangerous. Remember, I was in prison. I was battling Graves' disease. I had to balance my career. I had to keep my family in check. I had to keep my relationship in check. I had to keep my relationship in check. I had to be producing music.

So anyone that has Graves' disease, I think Missy Elliott had it too. Okay. Oh really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're human, bro. And a lot of people think because we're artists, we're superhuman, which we are,

but we still get affected. So I just want people to know that whatever illness you have, whether it's Graves' disease, whether it's cancer, whether it's HIV, whatever, don't be afraid to embrace it and live your life because you only have one. I think Earth Goddy passed away. He just passed away right there. That's the piece of Earth Goddy.

At 54, that's young, bro. Yeah. And this is for the millennials, the Gen Z. When I was like 14, 15 back in the day, I thought that 50 years old was old. Right. Bro, I'm 49. I feel as young as ever.

49 years, what? I feel as young as ever, right? Yeah. Yeah. All you need to do is take care of yourself. Right. Eat properly. Drink plenty to do is take care of yourself. Right. Eat properly, drink plenty of water, have sex a lot. Then you'll be all right.

It is what it is. But yeah, but like I said, man, having an illness shouldn't be taboo, because we're humans. We live, we die. So if you're sick, whether it's a mental problem, talk to somebody. I even did a video the other day about mental health.

That's huge, man. Yeah, because a lot of us, especially the ones that bring joy to people, are the ones that's suffering the most. Because I'm looking at Norrie, you bring joy to me. Cause I grew up listening to you, even though you're not older than me, but you played an important role

in a specific part of my life. Thank you. You understand? But that doesn't mean you're not human. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that really smart. Yeah. But we're still human. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's why. Yeah.

Yeah. But we're still human. Yeah, you're right. Vulnerable. And if you're vulnerable, don't be afraid to speak to people because that's one of the problems with the African-American and the Afro-Caribbean community. Because it's taboo.

Yeah, we feel like we got to be strong all the time. No! You can be vulnerable, bro. You can talk to your mother. You can talk to your girlfriend. But then, why do you love her, bro? Why do you love her and spend money on her and put her in your fucking house,

but you're afraid to talk to your woman, bro? It's real. You know what I mean? Taking a shot to that. Yeah, bro! Shit, it's real. You know what I mean? Taking a shot to that. Yeah, bro. Shit, this is Empress. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, the shot Empress is here.

Yes. That's your new nickname. Yeah, shot Empress. But bro, trust me, man. Like I said, I sing my truth. That's why I mentioned evil Graves' disease in my song. Because like I said, it inflames your body. That's why when I came out,

you know I had that inflammation in my face, my stomach. But bro, we're human beings. I have no shame in my game, man. Like I speak my truth, it is what it is. Black people, and black people take fucking certain illnesses as taboo. We're afraid to talk about it because we were raised to be tough.

Oh, you're a strong black woman. Why can't you be a feminine black woman and talk to your man? Talk to your friend. Why you have to be a G like all the time? I can't talk to your man. Talk to your friend. Why you have to be a G like all the time? I can't talk to a friend. I be like, a friend.

My dick isn't working properly. No, no, no, no. Because, no, no, no. Hold on, hear me out. Hear me out. No, I'm Jamaican. Hear me out. And this is serious.

This is serious. I'm not 29, I'm 49. Right, right,. This is serious. I'm not 29, I'm 49. Right, right, right. Why can't I come to you if you're my brother? Why can't I come to you like, bro, I'm having problems with my wife. Right. Because we have issues surrounding sex.

I can only pop off once per night. Why can't I talk to you about it? That's real shit. And you make me feel comfortable talking about it. Which is what AAA is, right? Hi, I'm Vibes Cartel. I'm an alcoholic. Or I'm Vibes Cartel, I'm a whatever.

Once black people get, especially us as black people, based on our historical trauma, we're supposed to be able to speak to one another, bro. Come on, man. We only live once, bro. Irv God is dead. Yeah, that's the piece of Irv. He's not broke, he's rich, but he's dead.

Michael Jackson is dead. Can't take the pain with you. Yeah, we as black people, we need to be able to speak to each other. You're right. And I learned this while in prison because anyone in Jamaica can tell you before prison, I was a fucking devil.

But growth and maturity taught me a lot of things. We need each other. That's why they make these groups and these AA and... Group therapy is good, because you're going through something that I'm going through. So you have questions and I have questions. Maybe you have the answer for some questions. Oh, why did she cheat on me? I did everything right.

You can maybe impart some knowledge on to why, because you've been there before me. Right. So you figured it out before. Bro, we living, man. We 100 years from now, we gone, bro. You know what I mean? That's the mindset I have now, Norrie. Hold on one minute before you get to that,

excuse me, bro. Let's get a shot. Yeah, man. No, no, no, no, let's drink. Oh, oh, oh, shit. Yeah, man. That's the mindset I. Let's drink. Oh, shit. Yeah, man. That's the mindset I have now, bro.

Respect the mindset. I got the honor. Yeah, we respect the mindset. Respect the mindset. Yeah, man. We living, bro. If it's not that, what's it for? Look, AI hooked him up, man.

Oh, yeah. AI, AI, AI. What was the feeling when they said you you're leaving the jail, man? How was that feeling? I'm from the ghetto. So you can't hype me up. So when the lawyer said to me, you're free, I was in prison, I was in my cell talking on myself.

And when, no, seriously, and when Alexandra Labiche, which is ICED's right hand, she said to me, I'm free, but I've been in prison for 13 years. I didn't want to hear from you, with all due respect. I wanted to hear from ICED, because he's the one that I'm paying. And when he called me and said I was free, bro,

I'm not gonna front, tears, bro. Mm-hmm. I fucking cried. Yeah. So fuck you if you think that's bitch. Mm-hmm. Fuck you. I'm a dancer.

That's right. Well, I... Bro, no, you can't... No, I'm tough enough, man. That's right. Anyone that knows me in Jamaica knows that I'm not no fool. That's right. You gotta get something in there.

Oh, sure. Because you know this is bad luck. No, I tried to play it off. Fuck you. Oh no. Yo, Laurie, I tried to play it off, but you think I'm here. Yeah, you're new here.

Bro, I'm serious, man. I was like, because think about it, I couldn't cry while I was in prison. I had to take care of my family, my parents, my children, a lot of people around me, plus the guys that I was charged with. So I had no time to be weak because all of them was coming to me.

Oh, Jesus Christ, when you coming out? You know what I mean? So I had to be strong for everyone. TJ. I ask you, there is even a meme in Jamaica where I say, ask TJ. Because when he used to call me like, well think about this.

I'm in prison, sending money to my bank, to Western Union, to people in America, to people in England. Look, that's my responsibility and I had to do it. People were dying around me. We were fucking in prison, losing money. But here, man, like I was fighting for my freedom, for my life, for my health, to keep my family, to keep my woman from giving away the pussy. That's a serious, no, bro.

Come on, that's serious, man. She back, she moved on. No, I don't. Yeah, I moved on, but I still take care of her. Oh, okay. I still take care of her, my baby, ma. I'm a Jamaican. You're either a fucking asshole

or you're a good person in Jamaica. There's no in the middle. You're either a fucking pussy or you're a real one. That's what Jamaican is. Vibes, vibes, on some New York shit. Yeah. How does Sadam feel about you taking care of all the baby moms?

Well, initially she was not cool with me. But when I explained it to her and she saw the predicament, my family was in. Because remember, you know, I'm the breadwinner. I made the millions. We're talking about US now. I made the millions. Why would I want to see my baby mom suffer,

even though when I was in prison, going through the worst time of my life, she let me be. But it's human nature. If you don't believe in forgiveness, you're a fucking, bro, you shouldn't even be alive, bro. Wow, for real. We made fucking, bro, you shouldn't even be alive, bro. Wow, it's real. We made mistakes, bro.

Okay, you, you, all right, you believe in forgiveness, so why didn't you just stay with her then? Because I'm a man first. And I told her, I was there with you. I'm like, I'm coming out, I'm coming out. I lost my trial, she was there, I'm coming out. I lost my Jamaican appeal, she was there, I'm coming out, I lost my trial, she was there, I'm coming out. I lost my Jamaican appeal, she was there, I'm coming out. But before the British appeal could happen,

she just gave it, and I can't blame her for that. If she was in prison, I would be fucking bitches the first day she got arrested. Right? So how can I hate her? Think about this, you are men. Think about, no, bro. Fuck, fuck, no. FN, think about this.

If she had got arrested on the first of January, after I brought her fucking things to the jail. You would have went to the third. No, the first. So we gotta keep it real. And that's what the problem with a lot of us as black people, our egos are high. And I get it.

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But what Sidane brought to me was peace. She made me calm. She made me not feel the need to fucking... You know what I mean? She made me calm. That's the best thing. I met her in 2015, July 25th. I'll never forget.

And that time, I'm saying before that, me and my baby mom was going through a lot. I did an album for short. It's literally called To Tanisha. Because her government is Tanisha. The album is To Tanisha, one of the biggest albums in the Caribbean. Any person from the Caribbean can tell you about that album. Just fucking go on their phone right now. Did Carter do an album called Tutanisha? Yeah.

Yeah, he love her, she nearly mad him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love, even now. But Sedeem was there. Now, that's why when you asked me the question about loyalty, it was easy to answer.

That doesn't mean that Shardy was disloyal. She was just human. Right. That's real. Right, Effan this loyal. She was a human right? That's real, right? I said, yeah, she was just human I Ten years 11 years. He's not coming out But I'm gonna be there for him because she always represented I could call her any hours 3 a.m. In the morning shorty wake up take this money here and she would go Come on man.

Bro, at what point we're gonna be men and be like, bro, you fucked up. Cause she didn't send me to prison. That was me. Wow, yeah. That's deep. She didn't send me to prison, bro. She was calling me, come home.

We need to fuck. Man, those calls are amazing. No, you get what I'm saying. So she didn't send me. She never called nobody. He's beating me. Fuck him. No, I went on my own.

So what am I going to do, bro? You mean, fuck him? No, I went on my own. So what am I gonna do, bro? And this is a thing too, in Jamaica, a lot of times, like a lot of men in prison, their woman is cheating on them, they just send someone to kill her. Ooh. To kill her and the? To kill the chick? And the man, yeah.

It's a reality in Jamaica. Whoa. I'm not even making that up. Because Jamaica rough. Why would I want to hurt my children's mother? She made me know that my dick was working. Because she gave me my first children. Yeah, yeah. And even a lot of time, even Sadam is like,

oh, I think you still love her. I'm like, yes, I love her. But I adore you and worship you. Different love. Different love. Oh, yeah. I do. Yeah, you can have different, that's real.

She made me know that I was a man, that I could have, get kids. Mm-hmm. So I love her. And I understand what she went through. Even people that love me gave up. Think about it, he in prison 13 years, bro. She's your family, you got kids with her.

That's family. That's family. And I got 33 years. So she's like, that's life. 33 years? That's life to everyone else. And maybe you don't get out. If something goes wrong in prison, you might not get out. That's my problem, and she needs the doggy style thing.

You get it. You get it. You get it. Human nature. Human nature. That's human nature. So I can, I could not be angry. I understand, I've grown, I'm grown.

I got arrested when I was 35. So over the, and I learned to appreciate God more and be more spiritual. That's why you see on my forehead, I have love God. Wow. If you look here, I don't know if you can see it, you see devil. Devil.

That was me back in the day. That was my nickname. Look, you see it? Yeah. Did you feel that you really embodied that? Bro, I was crazy. That's why I got in so much trouble. He was wilding out.

I was fucking wilding out, two, three, fuck, a million point oh. So you don't have- Jamaica's no joke, you can't come on and say on the track, you're a million point oh. So you don't have- Jamaica's no joke. You don't, you can't come on and say on the track, you're a gangster and you're not. Right, right. You gotta go on with it.

Especially back in those days. Right. Yanami Ara, I like that girl. Who is she? Nobody knows who she is. Yeah. She ain't gonna know who she is. Jamaica's getting in trouble.

She knows what's up. But that's what I'm saying. That's why I never stop saying God is the greatest. Nari, God saved me. No one could save me. I was in prison. GP in Jamaica, Tower Street, that's the number one prison. You see guys hang themselves. You see guys, you know, steal, like that steal thing.

You see guys sharpen that steal and just push it to niggas. You dead. That doesn't even make the news. That doesn't even make the news. That's how Jamaican prisons are. Because I know Americans think they have the toughest prisons. Nigga, you don't. We have the toughest prisons.

People die every day. nigga, you don't. We have the toughest prisons. People die every day. But God said, bro, cause I take care of a lot of people, cause I learned from bounty killer. So I pay forward and I prayed. I was like, at one point I didn't even pray for TJ. Yo, TJ.

Remember this guy, I'm in the light, God. Ox, TJ, you couldn't tell me nothing about God. I was God. That's all I wanted to ask you about. That's how big I was, you know what I mean? I was God. You did that for real. God was like, nigga, you're not.

Go sit down in this fucking dungeon. Wow. Then he gave me that epiphany. Bro, chill. I gave you the blessing. Even them days I was helping a lot of people like Popcorn, Kamily, Gaza Slim, etc. My parents, Russian, not nice. Jordan, fucking Birch.

Kids mother. Everybody. And God was like, bro, you need to slow down. If I didn't, that's why I told you, no regrets. Because if I didn't go to prison, I know I would have been dead. Mm. You know what I mean? You got a second chance. Yeah, I got a second chance.

And I won't fuck up, bro. I'm not fucking up, man. I can't. I can't do it. How the fuck do I fuck up? 13 years in prison. Come out, get my US visa, get my European visa, get my British visa, making these millions.

US motherfucker. How can I fuck up? I would be an idiot, bro. And even then, and why I think I got a second chance, because even when I was crazy, I still had that love and that respect for people. Because if you good, we good. If you're a gangster, we not good.

Because maybe you want to fuck me and I'm not going to give you that chance. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah, so that's my mindset since day one. So I have no problem giving you your props. Cause you can stop me, you know, and I don't want to stop you.

Get it? You can stop me and I don't want to stop you. Cause we can both be rich. We can both have a lot of money for everybody. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We can both drive the Rolls Royce and we can both have a million women without even touching one of yours.

So that's my mindset since day one, bro. Like, every man has to, like Bob Marley said, every man have a right to decide their own destiny. You have the right to decide your destiny, bro. I can't fuck with yours.. I can't fuck with yours. And you can't fuck with mine. If it comes a time when that's gonna happen, you go your ways, and I go mine.

And we good. You rich over South Miami, I'm rich in North Miami. That's it. That's it. That's how it goes, man. So I don't harbor any bad feelings for no human. None. I've been through it, man. We've been through the wars, the gangs, the shit, everything.

I'm 49 years old. What the fuck you gonna, what can you prove to me? You can't prove nothing to me. I'm from Jamaica, bro. Exactly, I'm from Jamaica. In my mind, I'm from Jamaica too. Huh? In my mind, I'm from Jamaica too.

I'm from Jamaica. Clap for that bum bum. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's fucking me out. Man, I'm telling you man, big up Queens. That's right, big up Queens. Yeah.

Getting back to the music a little bit. Yes. What songs of yours do you think changed the trajectory of your career? The first song was... The question. New Millennium, 2002, which changed dancehall, because the song was saying, this are the new millennium, man, different things are going on saying, this are the new millennium, a different thing are going on.

Meaning this is the new millennium, a different thing is going on. That's what it says. So that's one. Tech Buddy. It's Shamil, which is my first song on Billboard in New York. Okay. Then Tech Buddy, girl, second song. Wait, Then, Tech Buddy Gal, second song.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Then me and the Elkhorn and the Shabba Rance and the Sizzler. Wudubai, wudubai, wudubai, wudubai, wudubai. If you're this, Badman. Badman, exactly, you know what's up. Then, Ramping Shop, then Clark. Ah, Fort Moore, man.

And then Fever 2016, while I was in prison. That song was on rotation in 1997, on fucking Paul 105. How did that feel while you in jail? Bro, I'm on the fucking app watching everything. I fucking champagne in prison. I had a fucking bus stop Rolex. I had a fucking day, Rolex. I had a fucking day. Because Jamaica crazy, bro.

I had my Rolex in prison. Big chain, pendant, wig, anything you want, lobster, shrimp, champagne, anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's still prison. Right. Ah. Still prison, right, no doubt.

Definitely, even I won. Yeah, of course. Still prison. That's what it is. But even I want. Yeah, of course. Still prison. Mm-hmm. This is what it is. But those songs, when I saw gold in prison, I had my fucking plaque in my cell. Like, Roaches crawling on it and shit. Like, Roaches was crawling on my fucking gold plaque, bro.

That's crazy. I'm telling you. That's a scene. Yo. Yeah, Roaches was crawling on my plaque and I was like, your blood clad, hurry up. Listen, you need to put your movies together. When is the Netflix?

That's what I'm saying. When is the Netflix? General, that's what I'm saying. Grammy fucked up this year. No disrespect to them, but the story, come on. I'm coming from prison. 13 years, get my visa, I'm engaged. I'm behaving myself.

I sold gold. The album that I did was nominated, was done in prison. Ramy should have took a vacation. It's an amazing story, Norrie. Yes, it's beautiful. I love it. And with that being said, I want to piss this fucker. What's it like?

DJ, walk with me. And we got one over there. Yeah, like that. Something that's trajectory. Yeah. Yeah. If you know where that is... Yeah. What you say, right?

You don't even know where I go and land. You don't know where I go and land. You don't know where to go. Oh, man. That's chill. What the fuck? You need a light. Give Bob the light. Sean Paul, give me the light. Give me the light, that's best.

Sean Paul from Jamaica, for sure, right? That's what I said, on the back of the mouth. Damn, man. Down, man. Where we at? Sean Paul, man. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Where we at? Ah, you hear Popeye we're with Sean Paul, man. Yeah. We're with, yeah, we're with. Yeah. Ah, you hear Portmore man say,

Sean Paul is from uptown. That means. For the privilege part. Privilege, cause in Jamaica we don't have racism. Classism. We have classism. But that's for another interview. I respect that.

You are passionate about that, cause I'm from the get. Oh, same here. And I live uptown, and my kids are born and raised uptown. Went to the best schools, everything. You know how that is. Yeah, they better. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

God damn it. That's a serious topic in Jamaica, too. Classism, colorism, skin bleaching, all that. I was just going to say that, because I remember when you were rehearsing for your show, because I follow you, so you were talking about, we're going to do the... Bleach out cartel.

Black cartel and the bleach out cartel. Yes. The way you use the fucking, burn out the fucking melanin. Yes. And like you're trying to kill God. Yeah, man. Do you regret that? I told her I regret nothing. burning out the fucking melanin. And like you're trying to kill God. Do you regret that at all? I told her I regret nothing. Okay.

Because you either win or learn. When you lose is when you die. And we still don't know where you go when you die, even though I'm religious. And what those lessons are from your negatives. From life. From your negatives. You know what I mean?

So I never believe in losses. so I couldn't have regrets. And I've lost people that I love, but I can't regret. The reason why I asked that, because Kodak Black, and he had a song, and Super Gremlin, he said, you know, I know the perk was fake, but I still ate it because I was a Gremlin. Perk is in- Yeah, I know. You know what I'm saying? See how deep that was?

And he regretted that to a degree, the influence of that. No, but I understand that. But think about this. I already drank like four bottles of fucking... A few. How can I regret it? I can't change it. Right, you can't go back. You can't go back.

You can't go back. Gotcha. The only thing I can do from that is like, don't drink from beautiful women. I'm giving her props. Come on. Yeah. Okay. So if I got fucked up, no, I mean if I went inside and was like, bleh, I'm like, don was like, bleh. I'm like, don't drink from beautiful women.

So it was the L, that was the L, it's not the loss, it's a lesson. Because once you're alive, it's not a loss, it's a lesson. And if it's a lesson, it's a blessing. Weba! Yeah! We got it!

If it's a lesson, it's a blessing. Bro, last year, them times, I was in fucking prison. What the fuck you talking about? I'm in America and I'm rich. That's right. Sure. Richer. Richer.

Ha ha ha ha. Exactly. Shout to that shit. Oh, don't, oh. What happened? No, bro. Like I said, even Massacre said it the other day when I was in prison,

and I was so much in my positive energy that I understood it. You know what Massacre said? I'm big on Massacre. You should interview him too. He's a big artist in Jamaica. Yup, yes. He said, nobody can spoil my day.

Why would I give you that energy? I just came out of prison, bro, 13 years. I watched my children become from boys to men. And not the group from fucking Philly. Yeah, not the group. Big them up. Yeah, yeah, salute. Boston, they from Boston. Yeah, yeah, oh, I thought it was Philly. Yeah, not the group. Big them up. Yeah, yeah, salute. Boston, they from Boston.

Yeah, yeah, oh, I thought it was Philly. What the fuck? I'm losing. Where's my shot? No, no, no, they're from Philly. Yeah? Yeah, I thought they were. I think.

No, no, um... Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute to being wrong. Oh, shit, that's why your coffee's empty. Yeah, so much shit empty. I know. Oh, we taking us. Salute to being wrong. You got me then. Oh shit, that's why your coffee's empty. Yeah, so much to empty. I know.

Oh, we taking shots. Yeah, we taking shots. Voila. Oh, he just said, shot in there. I know. He said, shot a clock. What you doing there, Rosé? Yeah, but you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't.

You know your history. Maybe have a bad day. You know your history. That's why I'm so big in music. I'm a student. I'm a student of the music. You're a student first before the teacher. Before this guy right here.

You cannot be a student. My little brother right here always say, yo, I'm a student of hip hop. That's what, not yo, just that. Listen. Yeah, man. I'm not fluffing respect to you. Yeah, yeah, you're right.

Yeah, man. You gotta be a student. Big up, big up. Big up. I don't count. You gotta sit when you, when you sit. Oh, shoes. Yeah. Big up, big up. I don't count. You gotta sip when you choose. Oh, shit.

Yeah. Big up, big up. It's the American shit. Let's do it again. Yeah, it's the American shit. Big up to Norrie. Big up, big up. One of the teachers, and because he was a student.

Big up. So, I wanna ask another question. You brought up Massacre, you know, so. Massacre by the a-fuck. As far as dancehall right now, who would you think is like the top contenders and also like the defending champions of dancehall right now? Well, Massacre is one.

Popcorn, and I'm not just saying that because he's my protege. But I'm also saying that because he's my prodigy, so he learned from the best. You went to Harvard, nigga, you fucking qualified. So, Garza Nation is the Harvard of dancehall. Popcorn, from that school. Then I like the younger kids after Popcorn, like Jamal.

And I'm gonna get into that in a minute. So you have the Jamal, the Pablo YG, the Kronikler, Skilly Bang, the Jafilani, you know what I mean? The 450. And you know a lot of people gonna come at me, especially Gaza fans, but he represents for the culture, the alkaline, right? The squash, you can't leave out squash.

You can't leave out squash. Not time, you know what I mean? So for me, the kids, I have to respect them. Cause when I was coming up, I got a lot of flack like, oh, he don't sound like dancer. Like they surely say I'm not dancer, I'm something else. So we always have to represent for the general. Because I stand on the shoulders of giants, right?

I stand on Bounty Killer's shoulder. Bojubanta. Bini man, regardless of what you want to say about me. I'm a student of fucking dancehall. Dancehall is forever. Right? Yeah. I'm a rep for the culture.

I'm a rep for the vulture. I'm a rep for the culture. So big up Bini, big up Bounty Killer, who made me rich. Big up Bujubanta Tan, who my biggest inspiration. Ninja Man, my first inspiration. Supercat, the Josie Whale, Big Yacht, Michiganers Smiley.

Danny English, he passed away the other day. Big up Danny, you know what I mean? Give him a round of applause. Please, he's the first person who told my mom that I'm gonna be rich. Then she gave me the key because they used to lock me out at night. So when I went to the stage show at night,

I couldn't go in because my mama there, yeah, yeah, blood clots, you know what I mean? And my dad was like, yeah, blood clots too, which means also. And then my mom, when Danny English said to my mom, because he got, TeeJay! Oh, Danny English said, ah! They have a meme with me and him on the internet

where everything I want to confirm, I say, ask TeeJay. Oh, did Danny English, oh, meeting me at the party. He was the first person to tell my mother that your son is gonna be famous. And that made, that brought tears to my mother's eyes. So, and he died the other day. So I'll repeat that in English. Please give him a round of applause.

Yes. Big up singer Jay as well, cause they all together. Big up Eggnog. So bro, dancehall for me is everything, Noli. I believe in it. It made a lot of us famous. The rich Mavada Cartel,

Bonte, Beanie, Buzhu, like, Terry Jansie, even all the guys you asked me questions about. Why you think I had to take this time. Sprague. Sprague because I'm not gonna pick because all of them older than me influenced me. And the ones that I gave fame, they inspired me. So I could never, like TG, TG. TG, TG, TG.

Yeah, scatter, oh that scatter. And I'm gonna be, I don't know if you guys understand. He's here. He's here. He's here. He's here. Yeah. Scatter. Oh, that scatter. And I'm gonna be, I don't know if you guys understand. Yeah, say it. In Jamaica, we did the Freedom Street concert the 31st of December. So that went into the first of January, which is the first day of the year.

Him get the first sock your mother feed here. And in Jamaica, no, hold on, in Jamaica, a suck your mother is like saying, your mother is a whore, go suck your mother. And look how deep this is. Scatter is my big bro, because Scatter was famous when I was fucking hungry. You know how that was.

So he's my big bro. Popcorn is my son. Popcorn gave him the first suck your mother for the year. So you know I'm conflicted, right? But I spoke to Skater, he was very mature about it. Popcorn was very remorseful about it. Very poor. Yeah, and everything, but that's when he became a meme. What was in your mind?

Because people haven't, this is the first time you're talking about it after that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was in your mind when he was holding the mic? But you saw my face. I was shocked because I never expected Popcorn to say that. It's like, you invite me to a party. Why It's like you invite me to a party.

Why would I say you invite me to a party? But before you invited me to the party, me and Bustaram had beef, right? This is, we just creating a scenario. Why would I come to your party and say, Bustaram, suck your mother. This is the biggest diss in Jamaica. Yeah.

Yeah. That means I don't respect you. But this is, here's the flip side. You watched that movie with Al Pacino and Robert De Niro. Here's the flip side to that coin. Popcorn fell violent because he was coming to represent for the man that made him rich. Like real rich, because you know, Poppy's in like five star hotel,

my father level, like real rich. When we say millions, we mean US. And then he had to be at the gate for two hours. But then I had to explain to him after the show, like, Papi, you have to understand, this is Jamaica. The excitement, and everyone wants to prove. So if you're a security guard,

and FN and Capone is coming through, maybe you have a fucking... No, no, no, I'm fucking with you. No, I don't mind. No? I don't mind. I don't mind. I don't mind.

No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. But what's this? What's this? That was, I did that on purpose.

And if I didn't do it on purpose. Oh yes, for the show. Yes, for fuck's sake. And if I didn't do it on purpose, and if I didn't do it on purpose, then yes, I'm coming soon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For fuck's sake. Hold on. Hold on. This is where it gets serious now. So I'm speaking to Poppy,

and it's like, general, because you know they all call me general. The same way I call the guys before me, general. Bro, respect is everything. You know Jamaican culture. Of course, of course. She was like, general, me feel vexed, and me feel violated, Mr. Popcorn.

You can't come to my show with 200 people, like literally. And then be angry when one of the promoters, because Kiata, Joe Bagdanovich and Carla, big up Carla, they organized it. I didn't do shit. All they did was call me, Carl tell you I have an interview with Billboards, 430.

Okay, I'll be there. I'm there by 430. Just like when I came to your show. I didn't disrespect, I was on time, right? You were on time, hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that's right? You were on time, hello. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that's how we do things. Six minutes late.

Thank you for your patience. You know what I mean? Thank you for your patience, sir. Because you understand entertainment. Yes, so that's why you see me and Skata, me and him, all over the place together. Because he's one of my road managers as well. TJ is the manager, Skata and Mooney. TJ!

Yeah man, TJ. TJ! So it's TJ, Skata and Mooney. TJ the manager, two road managers. Because I'm dope, my life is dope, and I do dope shit. Goddamn! Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I love what you say.

What's this under my eye? No, under my nose. I'm out. Because in Jamaica, with the mouth, you say, you love use your mouth. Meaning you love to fucking talk,, you love use your mouth. Meaning you love to fucking talk or you love to like show out.

So, but in America, the slang is like, I'm out. Right. So I merge them together. So what's this under my nose? I'm out. I'm out. So it's a big, it was in Jamaica, number one on YouTube for like three weeks. Yes, the slang that I turn into a song. So it's a big, it was in Jamaica number one on YouTube for like three weeks. It's a slang that I turned into a song.

So it's crazy. Yeah, so, Portmore. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Portmore. He just goes like this. He ain't changed shit. He knew it before, he knew it before.

He knows. Like I said, Portmore is like the Long Island of New York. It's not Brooklyn, but we tough as fuck. Right? Like wine dance. The people are gonna stab you. Yeah, we tough as fuck. Come check with me.

We got Gotti over here. Yeah, they're gonna stab you. Yeah, exactly. We got Gotti. Yeah, so yeah, that's- I'm gonna take a shot for Portmore. Yeah, man. Let's go, let's go.

Where's my shot? Shot, shot. Oh, that's a shot. It's always lined up, star. That light skinned girl. In Jamaica, she's lined up, star. Light skinned girl. In Jamaica, we call her a browning. Browning!

Where is she? Hold on. She's there. White Scar, girl. Bounty killer. Oh. Look, look, look. Beanie man.

Oh. Bojo. I'm doing that. I'm doing that. That's a shot. Hold on. I'm doing that. I'm doing that. Nas. Yeah, Nas. You got to of him. No, no, no, he does one shot from Buju. I'm doing that, I'm doing that. He's called the first brown. Hold on, hold on, I'm doing that, I'm doing that. Yeah. Nas.

Yeah, Nas. You gotta do Jay. Jay-Z. Bombo Kla. I like it. He's good, man. He's good, bro. Biggie Small.

Yes! Yes! Yes, stop it. So this is the Nas, Jay-Z, Biggie Small. Hold on, and a little bit of Prodigy. To the bounty Beanie Buju. A little bit of Prodigy. Prodigy? Yes. Hold on. Mob D. Give me prodigy. Bounty beanie buju. A little bit of prodigy. Prodigy?

Yes. Hold on. Give me a moment to think. Mob D. Sprague Benz. No. Sprague Benz is still alive. Of course.

He's a legend. What you talking about? He's a lot of different. Bob Bucklar. Ready, go. Go. Go. Bob.

Bob. Bob. Bob. You know my favorite New York rapper, female. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! And this is going to be crazy if you don't understand the generation I grew up in. You know who's my favorite female rapper? I know who you're going to say. Lil Keem. I know.

I can see that. Yeah, look at that. Lil Keem. Flatwish Marsif. Yes. And remember, I'm not as big a fan as I am a Tupac fan because remember I said Tupac is my favorite. All-time rapper. But Lil Keem and Biggie Fenn is a, I am a Tupac fan, because I remember I said Tupac is my favorite. All time rapper.

But Lil Kim and Biggie back. Jesus, the notorious just pleased us with a little bit of thesis. We just chilling. So, so in your wedding, you would like Cardi B and Lil Kim to come out? No, if Lil Kim comes, that's ice, bro, that's ice. Okay, so look, you you go out and receive him?

I know, you can do it. What, you ready? You can get Lil Kim to come. No, you can make it happen. Oh, I can make it happen. You can make it happen. And Cardi B. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're legendary in this hip hop game. Look, he's right here. No, I'm gonna tell you this, I never wanna say it because the girls in Jamaica that are 14, 15 and 16, they love me. But you're gonna make me say it. Okay. Bro, I'm 49 years old. You're a fucking legend in my eyes.

Yes. So you can, I know you can. Let's big up to my brother. Oxygen! All right, all right. Yeah, fucking yeah. I'm not fucking yeah. I'm not fucking yeah. What the hell? Wait, hold on. Oxygen. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. Yeah.

He said you. OK, all right. So hold on. Hold on. You know, I think you know you've turned me into an alcoholic. You got A-A-A number? AAA. AAA.

AAA. See, I'm not confident. I'moli. No. No. No. See, they have no confidence. I'm joking. This is the engagement ring. I'm joking. This is a sitcom. Yeah, this is a sitcom.

I'm George... Jefferson. Jefferson? Jefferson? You don't know fucking... We're moving on. Yeah. Yeah.

On the inside. Inside. Yeah. The fucking Weezy. Enjoy. Not the moving on. On each side. Yeah. The fucking Weezy enjoyed. Not Lil Wayne, the other Weezy. Yeah. And also Lil Wayne. Yeah.

Let me tell you how I know you are an official gangster. You know what? You know how to laugh. You know how to smile. You know how to have fun. Of course. When I see people who don't know how to smile and have fun. Who do you think?

You are fucking me. You are fucking me. You are fucking me. You are fucking me. You are fucking me. You are fucking me. You are fucking me. You are fucking me. You are fucking me. You are fucking me. You know how to smile. You know how to have fun. Of course. When I see people who don't know how to smile and have fun, I know what they're doing.

You a fucking bitch. You ain't been through nothing. You ain't been through nothing. Yeah, you ain't been through nothing. Listen. Yeah. Tell me one thing that you learned being locked up. Being locked up?

Yes. How to sit your hands when you're jerking off. I'm so with this point, man. I'm joking with this point, man. Okay, Jamaica people, you know what you need to do? What up? I joke, man, or am I? Allegedly, allegedly.

Cheers to allegations again. Cheers to allegations again. Shit, yeah. But ask the question again. No, ask it. I'm going to give you a serious answer. What have you learned? Yeah.

Since you been home from jail you been home from jail? Been home from jail? Where you learned in prison? You asked me in prison? What I learned in prison? Don't take time for granted. And don't take it, the people you love, don't take them for granted.

You can't. I know, tell you something, FN. Because Jamaica prison is strange. It's like the gangster scene in Jamaica. Five people will die here, in Kingston. But when you watch the news, you only hear about the one person that died in Montego Bay or in Osharia.

about the one person that died in Montego Bay or in Osharia. So you gotta take life seriously. The people you love, you gotta spend it with them. You know what my biggest regret is? And my first son, I had him, I drove to the studio with him. You know when you get that son, your first child is a son, so I'm with him in the studio, I'm changing his diapers,

I'm doing all of that. But what I regret the most is not spending more time with them. Who's the oldest, Little Vibes? No, yeah, Liquify. All right. But this is the good thing about it. Liquify's gave me two grandchildren.

So now I have the opportunity. Yes, it's giving me another chance. Yes, yes. The second chances, man. Yes, bro. God is the greatest. Bro, I believe in God. Bro, when I was, even if you watch a lot of my old interviews.

Yes, that's the Wilford. I know, because you were just American. Yes. He's like Lord Hancock. Yeah, so he knows what's up. I used to say, bro, whatever, X, X, X. Now I believe in, like, my son, I didn't get to raise him.

He gave me two grandchildren. You can raise him. He gave me two grandchildren. So now I can raise a granddaughter and a grandson. So I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm back to my grandson. Make sure you get a lot of pussy. I'm back to my granddaughter. Hey, if you ever. Yeah, double standards, 2.0. I'm going to be honest. Before I got arrested, I never believed in God as a concept.

So being in prison and like I said, I put the 238 on my, where is it? 238, where is it tattooed? I don't even know. Look, where is it? 238, left or right? Chi. Right there. Right? Yeah,. Cheat. Right there.

Right? Yeah, yeah. Don't study no man cheat. Why? What the fuck? What I said? Hold on. Hold on.

Get out of here. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Get out of here. Got him. Got him.

These nuts, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Hold on. But I say this. No, nuts, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, hold up. But I say this, no, no disrespect to you. No, no, no, no. It's all good.

It's all good. It's all good. Right? But I'm gonna say this. I knew that I was gonna come out, but at the time I needed that extra energy because a lot of people were depending on me. Not just the guys that I was arrested with,

but my mother, my father, my children, my cousins, my aunts, my uncles. Remember, this is Jamaica. This is not fucking Wall Street shit. This is Jamaica. So I had to put my faith in something other than us. And that's when I got more spiritual, more religious, and started focusing. And that's when I tattooed the thing on my face, love God.

I don't know if you can see it. Man, I watch ministry. I see it. Man of Watchmen. I see it. Yeah. Yo man, get back up quick. Aye, Nare. Yo, what you mean? What's your name? R-O-S-S, Ross.

R-O-S-S, Ross? Yes. The blood clad, Ross. Ross. Ross. Member of. Man of Watchmen. Yeah man, Ross, Man of Watchmen.

But Nare, that's why I became more spiritual, because I used to go to church like most Jamaicans, because Jamaicans have the most churches per square capital. Really? Yeah. You know what beats it? The most bars. And I'm not even joking.

Like, literally, bars. Beats the churches. No not beats, but bars like where you go to have drink, rum, champagne, whatever. There's more bars than churches. Yes, but just by a slight, think about this, we have the most churches per capita in the world.

Right. The only thing that beats that. Wow. It's bars. That's why you see that, wow, is bars. That's why you see the, what's the word? The placid nature of Jamaica. The discrepancy. Yeah, discrepancy.

So on one side of Jamaica, you're partying, you're in a tourist country, and you're enjoying yourself and nobody fucking you. And on the other side, 53 people die in two days, murder. Damn. So tell me what, so crazy it is, 53 people die between Monday and, between Friday and Sunday. But when you are in Montego Bay,

not the real Montego Bay, you're in the resort. The resort, right. The safe zone. You could. Right. But when you go back to America and you go on Google, you see that 53 people died between Friday and Sunday. That's the end of this, man. By murder. It's crazy, man. So tell me something. Since you've been out,

what have you seen change the climate of Jamaica? Nothing. Just the love for me. Because my thing is this. Why are you shooting people? Because you have no other option. You were in school and you could paint very well. You could draw Jay-Z and he look like Jay-Z. But because no one cared about that and you lived in fucking flatboots.

No opportunities. No opportunities. So you just started to shoot fucking people. You're a gunman or you're a bad man. And it feels good. You know why it feels good? Because you're a man and men need purpose. Yeah, respect. Men need respect and we need purpose.

So you found your purpose because you do it very well. Run up on niggas and shoot them. Is it right? No. But all you had left was purpose. I still like that. You found it with your gun. The same way we found it with your gun.

The same way we found it after the gun, with the music, with the microphone. Jordan found it with the basketball, but he don't punk. You want a picture with Jordan? Nigga, fuck nigga, pay me. That's why I have no problem with Jordan, because I understand his mindset.

Is it wrong or right? That's for people to decide. But I understand the mindset of the man, because I grew up in the ghetto, I understand how it works. And if you don't understand that, man, you naive as fuck, you need to live in Colorado. You know what I mean? Go skiing in the fucking winter or some shit. Aspen, Colorado. Aspen, then some shit. You know what I mean? Go skiing in the fucking winter or some shit.

Aspen. Aspen and some shit. You know what I mean? I love Colorado weed. Colorado's the best weed gang. No, yeah and Oregon. I love Oregon weed. We got it in Jamaica.

But listen, when you smoke that smoke champs weed. I haven't, I'm taking it home. You're gonna love that shit. No, I'm taking it home. Listen, gonna love that shit. I'm taking it home. Listen, when you smoke it, you have to make a blog about it and say, yo, this is me. I will. I'm Michael Jackson, where is it?

This is my little monkey. What's the monkey's name? Pebbles? Pebbles. Bubbles, bubbles, bubbles. This is my bubbles. I hope when I smoke it, I see doubles. That's still vibe. Hold on, hold on. Let me just say something.

Let me end it with this. Vibes, man. I'm being honest with you. Me being a New Yorker. Which is Little Jamaica for us. Which is Little Jamaica. New York directly related. I always wanted to meet you. I always wanted to come into the same room with you

and just vibe with you. And then I realized one of my friends, one of my best friends in the world, name is Busta Rhymes. Damn, it's General Lut. And he stepped to me and he told me who you actually are. As a person. Because I was- Not just a persona, but a person. And he stepped to me and he told me who you actually are. As a person. Because I was-

Not just a persona, but a person. Yes, so, and when I tell you that man woke up four o'clock in the morning, you wanna get a shot? Yes. Hold on, get a shot. Hold on. Four o'clock in the morning. You want a shot?

Because I said, okay, all right, I'll do that too. I don't know what the fuck is, help me out. All right. Pour it in this. Let's go. Pour this shit in this shit. All of it? Yeah.

But my brother busts around. It's not a lot. The sheet. He's pouring it. What's your name? Jamie. Jamie. Yeah.

Don't play me. That should be in the real. Don't play me. That should be in the middle. Don't play me. J-Wing. J-Wing. Hey. But, but, but. Yeah.

Let me just tell you, man. Yeah. When we started this, and we wanted to pay respect to the dance hall. Yeah. We pay respect to the reggae. And our fans went so crazy. I said, your show wouldn't be official. Yes.

Like a referee with a whistle. Yeah, I understand. Oh, I like that rhyme. I like that rhyme. Unless. It's on point. Unless you have. Like a Russian missile.

But let's go. Unless you have the Like a Russian missile. Unless you have the kingdom. Yes. And me personally, I think you and Beanie are both kings. Bro, Marissa can't love Beanie, man. He was before me. How the fuck you not respect... Straight. ...a nigga who made this before you from the ghetto?

Open the doors. You're a bitch. And we're not do bitch business. I think y'all going on tour will be real big. Big up Bounty Killer. Big up Bushubantan. Big up Ninja Man. After that, it's me.

No, me and Mavado in the same league. You understand? So yeah, big up Gulligan. Listen, we in the tour with all of y'all. No, I'm touring with me, Mofado, Bonty, Boju. That's right. That's the tour. That's the tour.

That's the tour. That's the tour. That's it. That's the one I'm talking about. That's the only tour. That's the tour. No more shots? No, the shots are empty.

All right. You want to do this drink? All right. Yo, give me the Fever. Give me the Fever. No, no, no, the empty. All right. You want to just drink? All right, all right. Yo, all right. So give me the Fever. Give me the Fever. No, no, no, the bottle.

Oh, you want the bottle? Yeah, yeah. So give me the Fever. Let's get the Fever. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Fever. Yeah, yeah.

Woof, woof, woof. Yeah. Cheers, baby. Yes. You know why I'm blessed? Yes. Because my why I'm blessed? Yes. Because my managers don't drink. Yeah, yeah.

What's going on with my eye? I'm out. No, no, no, no. You know, hold on, hold on. I saved the day. Because it's not under your eye. It's under your nose. I'm out.

Get it? I'm out. under your nose. I'm out. Get it? I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. I keep fucking it up. I'm a smoke downer. No, you can't fuck it up.

You can't fuck it up. You're a drink champ. Yeah! Hold on, hold on, hold on. Say one more thing. No, hold on, no. Okay. Gee.

Remember, do you not... I'm not a drinker. I'm a smoke downer. I'm a smoke downer. I'm a smoke downer. I'm a smoke downer. I'm a one more thing. No, hold on, no. OK. Gee. Remember, do you know, do you recognize you're a hip hop legend? Not a fucking podcast legend. FN is a podcast legend.

Yeah. And a hip hop legend. Yes. You're a hip hop legend and a podcast legend. And when I say FN is a podcast legend, Jamaicans love him. Yes. And love you, but they also love you

because you was a rapper. I'm gonna get you on my rap album right now. Bro, ready? Yeah. Bro, now. Yeah. Bro, yeah. Bro.

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