The Breakfast Club - Eating While Broke: NICK CANNON - Layers of Flavor, Stories, and Success

Episode Date: May 25, 2025

The Black Effect Presents... Eating While Broke! Nick Cannon joins Coline Witt for an explosive episode of Eating While Broke, sharing his journey from teenage comedian to entertainment mogul. Watch as Nick reveals his untold story of hustling from the streets to Hollywood success, while enjoying nostalgic snacks in this intimate kitchen conversation. EXCLUSIVE: Nick opens up about:• Wild 'N Out creation and empire building• America's Got Talent behind-the-scenes• Early stand-up comedy struggles• Financial setbacks and lawsuits• Mental health and therapy journey• Building generational wealth• Balancing family and career -CONNECT WITH US:Instagram: @eatingwhilebrokeWebsite: www.eatingwhilebroke.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Nick Cannon is in the building. We're here, we're here. Blessings and salutations. Yes, and you were very nice enough to let us come to your studio. Yeah, we in my kitchen. Your kitchen. My kitchen is nothing but candy.

Yes, it's colorful. And junk food. I've hit a couple of the M&Ms, rated a couple candies, tried not to break any seals on the candy that hasn't been opened. I mean, that's what it's here for though. We always replenish it because people go through this

because obviously we film the Daily Cannon, Council Culture, Cannon's Clash, everything here. It's a music studio as well. Started off as a music studio. If you ever been in long nights in the studio, you always got the munchies and want snacks. So I'm a candy crack head. So I got one of these in like every one of my offices

and every house I got. I always got to have like a candy crackhead, so I got one of these in like every one of my offices in every house I got. I always got to have like a candy room. I just have one question out of all these candies, this candy, that's the cotton candy hot tamale. The hot tamale cotton candy. Does someone just randomly go places and say, let me just find the most random candy I could find?

Me, I do that. So you found that candy? Yeah, yeah, I think I got that in Las Vegas. Did you actually try it? I always buy one to try and then one to post. Yeah, yeah, to post. I usually keep stuff from Japan and Sweden. I think I have all type of stuff.

I don't know where they're like. Easter Bunny Warheads. I'm literally about this candy life. Like anything that's like blue raspberry lemonade, Swedish fish from Sweden. Wow. Like it's crazy. So I'm just curious, how was the hot candy, cotton candy?

I would rather have them separate. I like cotton candy by itself, I like hot tamales. I like the together spicy cotton candy. And it says it's got cinnamon in it. It's just... I mean it's cool, but it wasn't... that's why that's up there. Yeah, I saw it. So my daughter came in here and I completely forgot and the first thing she's like, mommy let me get this, let me get that, let me get this. I'm like, oh... Yeah, because what I mean also I'm a I'm a health freak too. So I do recognize all of this is poison. Okay.

This is like, none of this stuff is good for you. But you know, there's another section in this place where it's all about health and wellness. And I do understand that life is all about balance. So for me, I know how to have fun. I don't do drugs. I don't drink alcohol, you know? So like if I had to have, you know,

one major vice in life, it would most likely be candy and women. That's two, right? Yeah, that's two. And both, both one has me in the dentist a lot and one has me with a lot of kids. I was going to say in the hospital with a lot of kids. So now I asked you, take me back to what you were eating when you were broke. I'm guessing you being broke had to have been

in your early teens. Yeah, I mean, I still got a broke mentality. I'm one of those people, you can never take the hood out of me. And that's why I still eat a lot of this stuff to this day. Uh, but I know this is, you know, I can't cook. So like it's certain things that because all my life I've probably been on the grind and working, so I never learned how to cook. Um, that was always my grandmother or my mom.

Um, I can make simple stuff like eggs. I can make eggs. Okay. What I, you know, like if I have have to I actually love when it goes comes to My healthy stuff. I eat at least two to four boiled eggs every day. Okay, so I know how to do that myself The boiled eggs. Yeah Don't break them put them in the pot The train I thought that was a earthquake Don't don't break them. Put them in the pot. That's the train.

Oh, I thought that was an earthquake. Sometimes because there's earthquakes too. Sometimes you can't tell the difference. Was it an earthquake or was it a train? I'm not even gonna lie. Part of me was like, whoa, that feels a little surreal. We're right next to the train track. Okay.

But yeah, so I still love this stuff that we're gonna do today. I still eat this stuff as snacks and these technically most of them are like on the healthier side, especially, you know, the ones I have with the fruit. Okay, so walk our guests through it. Most of our guests are listening. This is where we start with the three course meal. So yes, okay. You know, we got the appetizer, we got the main course, and we got the dessert. Okay, let's start with the appetizer. Okay, so the appetizer to me is this is what, because you gotta try this too, right? The appetizer is probably-

We're both eating this. I'm gonna take you all in my bag. I'm fine with eating it. Okay, okay. But this one is probably the only one that you might be like, yo, that's a little bit out there, is the sunflower season. See, I knew you were gonna say that. First of all, we in the hood. I bit out there, is the sunflower seeds. I see. I knew you were going to say that. First of all, we in the hood.

I'm scared. We all like sunflower seeds. And this is, I started this before there were flavored sunflower seeds. Yeah. Back in the day, you could just get the David sunflower seeds. They would sell them at the ice cream truck. You had a little bag and then a big bag. And we just would want them to taste different.

And it was at the time where salt and vinegar chips were out. So I was like, yo, why don't they have salt and vinegar sunflower seeds? So went to my mama's cabinet. Oh my goodness. And get some regular. I prefer, you know, the white vinegar, but you can get the apple cider vinegar. I didn't know what. I was like, I can't even believe this is gonna be. The Heinz.

And usually you gotta let it sit and marinate for a while. Okay. Now the only thing about this, cause if you let it sit and marinate, they get soft. And so you can kind of like survive. I can honestly say I've never in life ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever did this. So, I mean, this might be some San Diego, like,

all right, to just literally have vinegar. It's just like regular sunflower seeds, but I would probably let them sit and some that we would put it right in the bag and just shake it up and have your fingers thinking. But it's really delicious. So they're hilarious. So I did pete that about sunflower seeds today, that there were flavors. It was almost impossible to get plain. Really? You had to get the... Everything is, yeah, like now they done turked up. As you see right there, you got ranch. Right when I walked in, I was like, look at all these sunflower seeds right here.

Yeah, we got little seeds. You're still eating it. I eat sunflower seeds like crazy. Like, that's my whole vibe. Did you try one right now? I did that's what I'm talking about. Oh wow. It's cool right? All day perfect appetizer snack. You know what? The vinegar really works.

Yeah, uh-huh. That's impressively good. I'm telling you. Normally you need a paper towel or something to spit it into. But that's just like one of my favorite hood snacks right there to wear. Thank you. I'd still, to this day, no matter all of the stuff I got, I'll make this, go watch a movie.

I had a... I feel like your breath will stink after you eat this, huh? Yeah, you definitely got to get some. Okay. But... Okay, shout outs to this appetizer as a win. Yes. Okay.

Come on, rock this war. And it's very ghetto. It's ghetto fabulous. It's good. It's actually impressively good. I would have never thought to do this. I'm not gonna steer you wrong. Okay. All right. So we survived the...

We survived it? The salt. I've survived the salt and vinegar, sunflower seeds. It's good. A plus for appetizer. Yes. What's the main course? All right. Now the way we're gonna rock the main course, I literally used to eat this for dinner because I was broke.

So even, you know, growing up in the projects, in the hood, this was like when my grandmother, my mom was at work or doing something, and I had to eat and fend for myself. This was like my favorite thing. I didn't want to eat all of the other stuff that was forced upon me. This was like my favorite meal. And it was one or two others.

I am a fiend for hot sauce. I collect them, I got a bunch of different ones, but the Cristal, as I call it, Cristal is my favorite. So you got- They corrected us here. They were like, hey, don't put it. Cause we put another one out and they was like,

you don't have the Cristals? I was like, we do. And he was like, only put the Cristals for you. Now that's the thing too, like, hold on. Cause you got, there's two styles of this so you could go I'm gonna walk over here you can go crystal or you can go a little more Spanish and go I was you guys right get a shot of this this is literally just just a whole thing of hot sauce oh my goodness oh they bugging they ran out. I would go with this one.

But I got like ten bottles of. Ten? Twenty. They ran out of tapatio. I may be missing you. Dude you know what I was gonna bring tapatio but I wasn't too sure if it would count. Somebody might be upstairs. But anyways, we got the other one. So you could do this Louisiana style or you could do the Mexican version. We can do the, we'll use the Valentino on that one. So just because I love hot sauce on any and everything.

And sometimes all we had was either microwave popcorn, and literally we would eat that for dinner. Eat that for dinner? Yeah, because I mean, when you think about it, it'll fill you up and like, you can get like a whole box of it for like $5. And kids love popcorn. So I didn't know. I thought it was a treat. I would literally eat a bag of popcorn for breakfast. So does that work? And then once I was a teenager on my own,

I couldn't cook, so I would just eat popcorn for dinner and I would put hot sauce on it. Oh, okay. So, you start. So I'm gonna do, I'm gonna flip it. I'm gonna flip it to Louisiana. Okay, so this is dinner. You never had, yeah, it's the main course.

You never had hot sauce on it? I'm not a hot sauce fan. Oh, okay. I'm really taking one for team today. This is exploring Colleen's palate. In Poetic Justice, Janet Jackson did this. She was eating the hot sauce and popcorn. I was like, yo, I knew we was kindred spirits.

That's why I knew Janet was my type of woman. So we gonna do, now you can still, and even I'll put a little bit on the Lay's potato chips because that's the other thing we had a lot of, but I'm going to give you the Mexicana vibe. And even if, look, like this is the hot sauce. If you see the street vendors and they're making like whatever, they'll have like different type of Mexican snacks, they will use this type or you like you put this on tamales and all that type of stuff.

So this one looks legit. Yeah, that's the so I want I want you to taste one of both. If you don't like hot sauce. I got my water here. Yeah, I should have had milk or something. Right? Yeah. Okay, I'm preparing, I'm preparing.

Yeah, this should be easy on that. Okay, here we go, here we go. That's not bad at all. I'm a hot sauce lover. I feel like Martin Lawrence. Remember when Martin Lawrence used to be like, eeeeh! Like woohoo!

That's not that bad. Now the dark color scares me. Yeah. All right. You gotta just take. Here we go. Jesus be with me. Yeah, that's gonna be hot for you.

Eat the whole chip Colleen. Nick, you know that is way too hot. I love it. That's our main course. We went Cajun and Mexican. Two of my favorite types of foods. That wasn't even that bad though. I survived it.

Not that bad. Would never do it again in life, but not that bad. All right, so now we're trying to, you ready to go to dessert? Man, I'm looking at this watermelon. You keep looking that bad. All right, so now we're trying to, you ready to go to dessert? Man, I'm looking at this watermelon, you keep looking at lemons. All right, what's dessert? No, because I'm gonna, you gotta try the lemons before the watermelon.

Okay. One, because, just again, another thing growing up, didn't have a lot, but we may do what we had. So paper plate, we got that, we don't have no paper plates here today. Or do we have a paper plate? We do. I think we got paper plates.

We still keep it a little ghetto. You had the little ones. Yeah. I thought to do this, but the table was so small. I was like, we're gonna try to make it work. This is what I used to do. I used to take regular sugar, pure cane, about a pound,

C and H back in the day, and get a whole plate. And I wasn't really allowed to do this. My grandmother used to hate when I did it, but to eat fruit and like fruit, you know, when I'm not eating candy and stuff, and it's funny enough, like I'm actually going on a fast next week. I do it every year at the top of the year. And sometimes I can cut sugar out completely for like six months.

I just, I don't set a date or whatever. I know I got to do at least 30 days, but I'll just try to do it as long as possible because I love it so much. It's all about discipline. So next Sunday is actually when I start my sugar fast. So this is probably gonna be one of my last delicacies. I'm gonna try and join you on that.

Cause I need to, I've been like telling myself I'm going to cut it, but like the second I'm in a room with it, I'm like, next week. It's poison. I'm addicted to it. Like, I know I'm an addict. Like, but all right. So yeah, so when I was a kid, I would literally get a paper plate, fill it with sugar. Wasn't supposed to do this. And there would always be lemons from a lemon tree or something like that.

Cut the lemon in half, or, you know, now I'm a little bit more sophisticated, slice it. And just, I would literally be sitting watching cartoons and it's natural candy. I feel like my daughter would love this. Absolutely love this. It's amazing. It's like lemonade.

I feel like I'm gonna like this. I feel like I'm going to like this. If you like sour, it's a vibe. This is amazing. Right? Did you come up with this one? I mean, it was as a kid, this is all I used to eat when I was broke. Everyone in life should have one of these. That is amazing.

Fire, right? Mm-hmm. So right before my sugar fast. That is amazing. Fire right? So right before my sugar fast. Oh my god I'm gonna double dip. As you should. Normally you would have your own plate so you could triple quadruple dip and matter of fact and then you know now that we really sophisticated. Yo that right there. I mean just go ahead and sprinkle it. That right there. That's the one, right? Is the best of the best of the best.

That is definitely dessert. A lot of people don't do desserts, right? Every once in a while, we'll get a guest that does a dessert. They'll do like, you know, DJ Charisma, she did like a tortilla, the last one, she did like three courses with one tortilla. Oh, I remember. And she did a cinnamon sugar.

Yeah, because I was thinking one thing, but I knew you gotta have an oven for that. And my oven ain't really working the way I want it to. But we would take regular Wonder Bread and put cinnamon sugar and butter. I call it cinnamon nigga crunch. But. This right here is my favorite.

This may replace my, well, I guess this could go on the processed sugar diet because of the sugar. Right. It's better than candy. But you could do honey maybe. Maybe agave. Agave.

Agave might be fire. But yeah, that's it. This right here is heaven. If you like Warheads, Sour Patch Kids, Lemonheads, this is the OG. This is where all that came from. Okay. You was winning with this.

Okay. All right. Number one dish is the lemon, the sugar. Yeah. All right. And now the one that you have to prepare the most. And I actually eat this every single day. And when I'm on my sugar fast, I tap into this, I eat a lot of fruit and this

becomes my dessert. I'm the biggest fan of tahini. You can put this on any fruit really from apples, oranges, any fruit. A lot you see it on a lot of drinks and stuff like that. But I grew up with this Mexican candy out of all candies is my favorite candy. Okay. We're going to the ice cream truck with you know penny rolls and trying to get whatever I can from and I got it in here it's like a whole Mexican section over there. I saw it over here. I was going to try that one. The Tito and the Chili Suckers, like the Tamarindo like all of that stuff.

So this is really where all of it started. And you can see out here in California, the there's fruit trucks, you know, fruit men or women that literally are pushing fruit. And that's all fresh, amazing fruit. They you can buy mango, agave, pineapple and watermelon. But this is something I grew up on and I still eat every single day. And it's literally tahini, which is a little spicy on any fruit, but since we black, we gonna do watermelon today.

That's my favorite, watermelon and mango. No sugar. Okay. Now to this, I believe, I don't know which chamoy, you can actually get a sugar-free chamoy, but as you see, it's zero calories. Let's see if this one has sugar in it. They usually sweet, no? No, well, zero total sugar, zero. So this is the zero sugar one. Now the thing about this,

sugar zero. So this is the zero sugar one. Now the thing about this, chamoy is actually, it is, it's a fruit as well and it's mixed in with normally lemon juice, salt, water, and then a bunch of other stuff, a broil pepper. It's spicy, but it does have a little sweet texture to it. If you're trying to do no sugar, if you don't care, they have the ones that are like literally candy. This will be in your diet next week. I will have a sugar-free chamoy next week. But sometimes I'll just do the tahini and the fruit because this is kind of hard to find.

Trying to think, see now you got me going back to my, go back to the cabinet because I'm trying to think, see now you got me going back to my, I'm going back to the cabinet because I think we got like, ah yeah see this is this is the one right here. Is it the sweet one? This is the sweet one. That's the one I want. Like because Chamoy has two flavors, it has the really sweet one and then this is this one's kind of like a little spicy and hot. So, I'll take this one from you. I'll give you a fresh one. Yeah, cause you know I'm gonna want the sweet. Yeah, this is the sweet one.

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So just a little fun fact, I'm from New York and it took me almost till last year to start putting lemon on my mango. So I've been evolving, you know, but usually if I see someone on the street selling fruit, it's watermelon and mango, but now I I see someone on the street selling fruit, it's watermelon and mango, but now I'm like squeezing lemon on it. But I haven't graduated to tahini and none of the other stuff yet.

So here we go. Let me mix the tahini up a little bit. That'll probably be the best one for you. This one right there. Yeah. Yeah. Cheers. Here we go.

Boom. Tell him. Yeah, cheers. Here we go. Bomb, I'm telling you. Everyone? Shout outs to that one. That one's sweet. That one's super spicy. What does it say if it has sugar or not? That one has sugar.

I mean, you can just tell. Like, look at the thing. No, but if I were to go in the store and I try to buy this, how do I know which one I'm on? Well, because it's just like the consistency. That one is awesome. Yeah. It was darker and thicker.

Yeah, it's thicker and it's literally like a bottle of candy. But this one is kind of more, you know, spicy. So. I like how it's just spicy on that one. Yeah, and I would like, they put it on, they put it in ice cream out here, they put it on like everything. So that is, that's, that's eating while broke. This is, but I still eat this stuff every day.

The three course meal. So now that I've gotten to walking your shoes as a young buck, take me back to what was going on around this time, like in your home life. Hustling. You were in high school? I grew up, I grew up, my grandparents, my parents were teenagers. So I was a latchkey kid, moved all over the place because my parent, my dad moved away

to North Carolina, where our family is originally from to go to college and be in the ministry. My mom went to nursing school after she graduated. I went to like my dad's high school graduation. I was around and so we were all kids. And so my grandparents stepped in and helped. So, and you know, I was one of many of my grandmother's children. She was also a foster mom, so it was always a house full of kids in the projects. And that's kind of where I had to find my own identity. Being my mom's only child, my dad's oldest child, and one of many with my grandmother and kind of like her baby, but there were other younger foster kids. So I kind of had the experience of everything that gave me, I know how to be a big brother, I know how to be a little brother,

I know how to be a spoil only child, but I know how to be at a house full of 20 kids. So I got to experience life in such a way and I figured it made me a unique individual. And then by the time I was a teenager, I was kind of living on my own by the time I was like 16, 15, 16, and that's when I moved to Hollywood to kind of hustle and do my thing. I've been doing stand-up since I was like 11, 12.

My dad inspired me to do that when I was living with him. Move back and forth with my parents all the time. And during the time of probably like around 11, my dad was preaching and doing stuff and he would let me do stand up comedy. He had public access shows and was preaching all over the South and I would go with him. I would help him with all that stuff. And I, you know, he said, I wanted to be a rapper, but he was like, yo, you're funnier than just every kid in the hood wants to be a rapper. You should work on your comedy, work on your hosting, and cut to that.

Probably one of the most popular and biggest television hosts in the game. Yeah, well, you're also the youngest writer in broadcast. Television history. Yeah, in television history. Well, that all started from when me and my dad taught me how to do all of this stuff before. I mean, everybody does it now,

but back then, having a camera and interviewing people like that was rare and I was a kid doing it. So he trained me when I was like 11, 12 to kind of we had to take workshop courses and things like that to work in public access and that's when I learned about script writing, you know set design, lighting and all of that stuff at like 11 you get all these certificates and then that's how you work your hours on cable vision in North Carolina and That's I always just wanted to be a writer from that point on and wanted to be behind the scenes And produce stuff for others and I produced my first show was called check this out in

1992 I believe And we had like 20 episodes or something like that Check this out. In 1992, I believe. And we had like 20 episodes or something like that, Public Access, North Carolina. And I just, the bug bit me from there, the comedy bug and the TV bug. And, you know, came back, went to high school out here in California and literally would drive two and a half hours, catch a ride after

school to the comedy store, to the improvs. Wow. At that young age too. Yes. 15, 16 years old, stand out there and then, you know. Was it tough getting into the clubs at that age? Absolutely. But it was tough because I wasn't supposed to be there, but it was easy for me because

I was the only kid out there. So I was a novelty. I was thinking like, oh I was the only kid out there. So I was like, I was a novelty. I was thinking like, oh, what's this kid doing? So when I would come on stage, I could easily rock because I was like, it was a gimmick. It was like, oh, he's a young phenom and he's in a club full of a bunch of drunk adults talking about gas money and detention. So it's like, it worked. I stood out from all the

other comedians or all the agents and managers would take notice of me because there's this cute little kid on stage telling jokes. Now, what were your grandparents saying at the time and your family saying at the time when you're like getting in the car driving Hollywood shooting your shot? None of them liked it. You know what I mean? But one thing that actually saved me, because at that time, especially like 15, 16 years old, I had started, I had a, there was a huge, you know, influx of gang violence in my community and I was influenced by that pretty big. And that's just where we were. It's where we grew up, you know, southeast San Diego.

And by the time I was in high school, went to high school in this area called Spring Valley and just a lot of neighborhoods wasn't getting along. So a lot of my friends was getting murdered, getting shot. You know, we were selling drugs, you know, nothing crazy big. You know, we were selling weed and stuff like that. A couple of us were selling crack. I never saw crack, but my, but you know, my stepdad, my mom's husband, was one of the biggest dope dealers in San Diego, so I was always around. Oh, wow. Yeah.

So my pops was a preacher, and my steppops was a crack dealer. So I was like, I'm going to write, instead of a rich dad, poor dad, I'm going to write preacher dad, crack dealer dad. But I was always around it and Hollywood saved me because literally I remember going to my grandfather one day and he was like, I'm afraid I'm gonna get shot, I'm afraid I'm gonna die. And he was like, we started going to church up here and at Crenshaw Christian Center in LA. And he gave me this, the first book I ever read on my own called Name It, Claim It by Dr. Frederick K.C. Price.

And it was about speaking things into existence and positive affirmations way back in the 90s. So, you know, still to this day, I think I have it tatted on me. It's one of my favorite Bible verses. I can't pull this all the way up, but it's like tatted right there. It's Mark 11, 23 to 24. Whatever you desire, believe that you receive it and you shall have it when you pray.

And I just lived that. And that, to me, opened the doors for me and got me out of all of wanting to be, you know, a gangbanger and kind of straighten my life up. And that's where my parents were like, all right, if you finish high school, you can go do that because we understand it's safer for you. Because at the time, we couldn't go, I couldn't go anywhere without either, we was getting jumped, shot at, something like that in our city. So I would leave after school and go to LA

and I felt like a kid. I felt like I didn't have to worry about anything because everybody was older than me and I had to look over my shoulders and all of that type of stuff. So it gave me the opportunity to be creative and young and free. Literally would be on stage with Jamie Foxx and doing everything I could ever imagine.

Chris Tucker, Eddie Griffin, Martin Lawrence, all these people I idolized. Then I had to drive back and go to school the next day. I was like, yo, I was just digging it. I was about to ask, were you bragging or something? I was like, what the fuck? You're like, man, you don't roll this weed up and bag these nickel bags up and figure it. It was cool though. You don't roll this weed up, bag these nickel bags up. So then your first big break is, I'm assuming, coming right off the stage, maybe an agent

and a manager notice you. Is that when you get your first big official break? Yeah. It's funny. It always happens on my birthday. So I say it's God's gift to me. My 16th birthday, I was on stage at the Improv and my manager still to my manager to this day he was there looking at some of his clients and I had always looked up to Keenan and Kel and Keenan Thompson was there and he had

brought his manager and it was kind of cool where he was like I was just telling him how big a fan I was he was like yo I think my manager is checking you out, man. I was like, work? And literally, it was my birthday. My birthday was that week. And then on my birthday, somehow Michael Goldman got my information and called me and asked me if he could manage me. And then the next year on my birthday, on 17th is when I got my deal with Will Smith and his company for my own TV show and record deal. So it's cool. Wow. And then what were you going home?

Stuff is hot. That's cause you chose all the hot stuff. You see, I'm not sniffling nothing guys. I probably should stop eating it. So you go home, like who is the first person you're calling and telling and what is your family saying? I'm assuming it's your family, but what does everybody say? Nobody believed me But it was because even at the time like the first job once they started managing me was behind the scenes I started being the warm-up for Keenan and Kel and all that the Amanda show a bunch of shows

Uh, and even got a chance to do like the the warm up for like some of the Olsen twins show. Dang, I remember the Olsen twins. Yeah, like the TGIF nights and sister sister like, cause I was a kid. So the audience would have a lot of young people in it especially like the Nickelodeon shows. So I would entertain the audience for like four hours while they're filming the show and doing stuff and telling them what's going on. So that was my first. So my name would come up,

you know, super fast at the end of the show. Audience warm up Nick Cannon and like my whole family would gather around the TV just to see that. And they would be calling him like, why his name won't come up? You won't see his name. So like, that's probably the most excited my family's ever been for me. Because since then, they're like, I don't care. We're tired of seeing you on TV. But back then, I remember we would gather around and wait to see my name come up at the end of the show on Nickelodeon. Now at that time, what was the money looking like? Did you feel like you had arrived? You had made it? Was it enough money to buy every sneaker?

Nah, so at the time, I remember I made a, I don't say a bet or deal with my mom, because my mom wasn't feeling it. My mom was like, you gotta go to school. My mom would even tell me stuff, she's like, you're not even that funny. And like, she wanted me to stick to music. And she would, you know, she had seen me grind and her father was a musician and had left me all of his music

equipment before he died. So it was a real connection. My mom just wanted me to be a musician. And I was like, I want to be a comedian. And then she was like, you're going to get a job. She made me get a job at Wienerschnitzel. I fucked that up. I was cracking jokes out of the drive throughs.

I can't even imagine you. Yeah. It was horrible. I had to I fucked that up. I was like cracking jokes out of the drive through. I can't even imagine you, yeah. It was horrible. Like I had to go in that freezer, clean in the bathrooms. I was like, all right, I quit. But so my mom was always like, you gotta do something. You can do that on the side.

And she was going through some hardships. She had like three jobs at one time. And you could just see the pressure on her. She was just like trying to do it. Like she eventually became like an accountant for like these major companies, but it was hard, you know? And we lost our house and had to get downsized and get an apartment.

And it was just me and her. And I told her, I was like, mom, just trust me, have faith rock with me. And I said, if you go to church with me every Sunday, I'll come back and we can go to church. Cause she had to, cause she was mad at the church from whether like her upbringing and you know, my dad and all, he was so churchy.

She was like, forget all of that stuff. And I was like, yo, you just go to church with me we're gonna have the faith and I guarantee you that in a in a year I'm gonna buy you a house and that's you. And how old were you at the time? I swear that was 16 and so I remember for the warm-up checks I started I was making $500 a week So that was enough to get my gas from San Diego to LA and pay my mom's rent. So for that first year, I was paying my mom's rent and just, and then having like pocket, couple of hundred dollars in a pocket at 16 and a 90,

I was good. And then I got, like I said, by the time I was- Did your mom, so your mom did take the deal and go to church with you on Sundays? Yeah, she went and still does. And then I got, like I said, by the time I was- So your mom did take the deal and go to church with you on Sundays? Yes, and still does. She would go to church with me every Sunday. And it would be me, my mom, and my dad's mom.

We would all go to Mount Airy Baptist Church in southeast San Diego. And it was some of the best times of my life, because that was the come up. And literally, I was just watching God move and how God worked. And it was just like, just blessing after blessing. Like I said, by the time my 17th birthday rolled around, I had a deal with Will Smith. And my first big check, I know the first thing I bought, and Will told me don't do it, but I bought a Range Rover because he had one. And like, it's like Kenan had a forerunner kill, had an expedition.

Everybody had these SUVs and I had my mom's old broke down BMW. I was like, when I get my check, I'm going to be riding high just like y'all. And I bought a Range Rover. Total that, messed that up. But the next chunk of money that I got, I bought my mom a house. And I was like, I told you, I told you, I had you and the rest is history. Been buying her houses since then. She's sitting good behind gates in some million dollar estate somewhere. So from there you end up, how did you get the youngest writer like- Well that was also, so in that, so while I was the warm up, I would watch, you know, Keenan on doing their thing and Keenan literally became my big brother.

You know, they said you used to like sleep on his couch. Yeah, I used to sleep on everybody's couch. You sleep with Keenan and Kels, Kels, Jamie Foxx's couch. I used to sleep in my car. But Keenan was the one that let me move in. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? Everybody else was just like, yeah, you can have the couch.

You know what I mean? Like, it was, it was, it wasn't tough times. I was a teenager. So like, it wasn't like, you know, no pursuit of happiness. It was just, it was the hustle. I loved it. You know, we'd be in the comedy clubs till three, four in the morning and we go to Jerry's deli till five.

And so I might go close my eyes for hours or something. I'll be playing basketball at the YFCA by seven, eight. So it wasn't like I really, I just, my clothes is in my trunk. You know what I mean? So I- You graduated high school earlier. Yeah, yeah. I graduated high school when I was 16. Cause that was one of the deal that my mom made with me.

She was like, if you finish high school, I was like, I'm gonna finish early. And I had work experience, a job I had figured out how to get the stuff that I was doing in LA as work experience. So I was getting work experience credits and finished all of my courses and I graduated high school a year early. So just because I was like, all right, cool.

Then I can be up there full time and all of these hours during the day where I'm sitting in a class, I could just move to LA. So I moved to LA. So I moved to LA when I was 16. Okay. So your Will Smith situation, there's a pivot in there. Obviously, what happens to the next level? I mean, I wrote that for a while.

I think what happened with that, I became known in Hollywood as the next Will Smith or Will's protege. So everybody started to take notice, especially the people at Nickelodeon, which I had already been working with. So they were like, yo, how did we let this kid get away from us? So then that's when they gave me the deal for the Nick Cannon show.

And youngest executive producer at the time. I think there's definitely Zendaya or even like Marseille Martin or something like that took it because I think they were younger. But at the time I was the youngest. I don't think so because I Googled it right before you came and you're still the reigning champion. Oh, so yeah.

I tried, I was like, is he still? And it said still. Yeah, 18 or 19 is when I was the youngest because I was really my show runner. Like, and the crazy thing, if you ever watched the Nick Cannon show, it's funny because now I do the Super Dad content with my kids and I make them watch episodes of the Nick Cannon show with me as a teenager. And everything that people go viral for and making millions of dollars on YouTube, I was doing in the 90s.

So I was doing the man on the street, bitch. I was pulling up to the zoo or to the mall dressed up in crazy stuff, pulling pranks on people. And they just gave me a budget and said, go do what you want to do. And I'll be in character. I'll be like doing all types of, I mean, if you've seen any of this stuff, I would dress up like Latonya, like ghetto girl. I would dress up as Francis Spunkle, some old school B-boy.

I had all of these characters. I would just go out in the street as these characters and then I would go to kid's school and be principal for a day, bring slime to the house. And it was a hit. We did two seasons of it and I probably could have did it for a lot longer, but I just started getting more and more popular

on Nickelodeon and I created a bunch of like interstitial programming where we had had this thing called the Snick House where it was like a party talk show type of vibe that hosted Snick Saturday nights on Nick and we had everybody from Nsync to Christina Aguilera and it was just a dope concept and then from that I created Nick Records with Jive Records which is Nickelodeon's record label and so then I was like, oh, I'm on to my music vibe.

And then the movies came. And then the movies, and then the first movie was? Men in Black 2. Will put me in Men in Black 2. Okay. But it was a cameo, but that was my first movie that I ever did. Okay.

And then the first movie that I ever starred in, obviously was Drumline. Which was like my favorite. I think everyone, I don't know if everyone can agree, but you can watch Drumline a hundred times. I love that movie. Right? Is that crazy? Like you can watch that movie every time you come on,

you will sit down and watch it. I've only seen it once all the way through. I've seen it at least a hundred times. Anytime it comes on TV, I'm gonna watch it. But I can't sit there and watch myself for like two hours. I mean, that's gotta be it. Like I'll catch a scene or something like that. Drumline was amazing.

Your acting in Drumline was... Thank you, thank you. Amazing. Yeah, I had a good time on that one. Yeah, so when Drumline hits. Yeah, I'm still eating. What is, yeah, go ahead. I see you snacking.

I can tell you still eat this. So Drumline hits, It's a hit. Everyone's talking. How you feeling? What's your pockets looking like? And at this point, is your career completely stable? Yeah, no. I think my career right now ain't completely stable. I think that's why I hustle so much because I feel like at some point they can pull the rug from up under me at any time. I love people feel like they did. But I tell people this all the time because I do know you personally. Yes.

That I don't know anyone on earth that works harder than Nick. Nick, I've seen you sick, hungry, tired, you know, usually in a circumstance where someone could be an absolute asshole and you'd give them a pass and you will be completely pulled through with no attitude, no attitude, no nothing. And just back to back three cities in a day, probably even more since I've last seen you. But I've seen you push the limits like no other. I think it's just in me. Like when you think I think it's such a blessing and privilege to to live the life that I live and to wake up in my job is to be

creative. So I got to get as much of it as I possibly can and then it's the hustle in me. You know what I mean from my pops my step pops seeing everybody just like, you know, you you gotta make something out of nothing. And I do like as successful as I've been, I mean, if you think from the beginning of my career to today, I've made hundreds of millions of dollars,

but I'm always thinking like, this could be the last check. So I got- That's how you move for sure. Yeah, so I'm like, I'm just always trying to get it. I hope to one day get to that space where I'm like, all right, I had enough. I'm just, but I'm not there yet. Like I'm trying to figure out what the next play is. I'm jealous of all of the YouTubers. I'm jealous of all the streamers. I'm like, yo, how they getting out? I've been doing that. So like, I'm the little Richard of this. I'm the architect, but I love it though. It energizes me and the fact that even now I get to see my kids want to be a part of

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app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the stretch from, and I tried to get, I didn't know if Valerie knew the, your assistant knew the answer to this, cause I was like, Nick has had such a long career. I was like low key curious if at any point during this long span of a career,

if you actually went broke at any point during this span. Yeah, I went broke a couple times, I'll tell you. Tell me them, that's what I'm curious about. Yeah, I went, so after my first deal with Will Smith, it was somewhere around like 150 to $200,000. I told you I bought a Range Rover, bunch of other stuff, attempting to get my mom a house. And thinking that they were gonna pick up the show,

I had a six episode commitment produced by Will Smith. I mean, Quincy Jones is at my pilot shoot. Same creators of like the Damon Wayne show, same creators created Jamie Foxx. I was supposed to come on right after the Jamie Foxx show on the WB. So I'm spending money that I don't even have because I'm thinking I got a six episode commitment. I'm going to be getting 150 an episode. Yeah, and they didn't pick up the show So after they told you they had the commitment. Yeah And so me and Keenan we have got a house in the Hollywood Hills now

Like he was good, you know, he had his money and I'm like, I'm trying to hold my end of the rent. And I ended up, you know, having to move out of that place. I couldn't pay, pay the rent, lost my Range Rover, literally start driving my mom's car again. But she was able to keep the her housing. I hadn't bought her. I was paying her rent. Okay. Okay. I didn't bought her house. I was hoping,, obviously, 100, you know, even I bought the range, but it was, you know, almost 50, $60,000 left. That can't buy a house. But I was like, I figured, can you get a damn payment? But again,

I'm spending money before I get it. I'm thinking, oh, I'm about to be making millions of dollars. And Will Smith, everybody warned me to not do all that stuff and best wisely I listened. So I was literally back sleeping on people's couches again, driving back and forth to San Diego, went from a Range Rover to a Cougar. So that's your first time. Was there another time after that? Yeah, because there were some lawsuits in there too that people, because they thought I was blowing up, wanted to sue me and all that stuff. So lawsuits will always make you go broke.

And then... I think I've actually personally witnessed you go through a lawsuit. Yeah, lawsuits, that's crazy. Because you got to, they're suing you for a certain amount of money. And then to help you not lose that case, you got to pay lawyers probably the same amount

of money you get sued for. Jesus. So, and then at some point you realize like, all right, well, I'd rather just settle. So I can stop paying you and hopefully we get to a number that's not as astronomical as they're asking for it, but like something I can afford. So every time like lawsuits, whether they're legitimate or not, can make a person go broke. Just because you go broke trying to defend yourself even if you're in the right. So I'm trying to think of next time because I learned great lessons that first time. I was gonna say you're very lucky you learned it on that on that first

go-around. It gets scary every once in a while people mismanaging your money but like I said I was a hustler so it gets scary but I never went broke to tighten my belt up a couple of times. went broke to tighten my belt up a couple of times. You know, divorce is never fun. You know what I mean? Because that's the whole time and the same thing you're dealing with the legal system and you know, even living at the high level of life that you know, I was living with my ex-wife and then not being able to continue that lifestyle because my finances is tied up in so many other things. That was a little scary. I didn't go broke, but that actually created a lot of stability for me after my marriage

because then that was like the first, that was probably, no, no, because I did buy, like I said, I bought a house. I did buy myself a house and lost that house in like 99. Between 99 up until Drumline was a very shaky time for me. So I lost the house that I bought. But then once Drumline came and everything started coming after that, I started getting back to the bag. And it was being pretty.

So you were still pretty young when all that was going on. Yeah, so early twenties, I was like, like I said, the next time that it got scary for me, but I ended up purchasing my own home and stuff like that was after marriage and being in my thirties at that time, it was like, all right, now I gotta figure this out. I got kids, I gotta move differently.

So, and then since then, I mean, now my fear is I got so many kids, I wanna make sure that they can actually be good for the rest of their lives. You know, most people gotta worry about two or three kids. I gotta worry about 12. So, I wanna make sure that, you know, is, cause, you know, life is challenging. So, I wanna make sure at least they don't have to worry about anything financially for the rest of their lives. I like that. Cause whenever I see like a billionaire and they're like, I'm gonna make sure my least they don't have to worry about anything financially for the rest of that lot. I like that because whenever I see like a billionaire and they're like, I'm going to

make sure my kid suffers. I'm going to give all my money to all the nonprofits. That's crazy. I want to do- It's hard to give it all the way to the nonprofits. Yeah. I want to do what Quincy Jones did. He has always been one of my mentors.

I don't know the exact amount, but obviously my man was almost a billionaire and he gave all his money to, I think he had about 10 kids. So everybody is sitting good. Yeah, I think that's the honesty. Why, why, why? And let them figure it out. You know what I mean? But like, you know, I'm a big advocate for philanthropy and I do a lot of charitable

efforts, but you know, it's about lineage. Not legacy. A lot of people use the word legacy. Legacy is tapped into ego and narcissism But lineage is something this is this is your family You know and you want to make sure and that's that's my goal to me like having so many children. I the the goal is To be able to provide for them in a way whatever they want to do in life the sky's the limit

Yeah, you know if you want to be a, I can help you get to the best medical school. If you want to be an athlete, I can get you to the best trainers. If you want to be a chef, I can get you to the best culinary school. And it's not about a financial thing, it's about me supporting your dream. So I'm literally focused on my kids and the fact that I have the means and the wherewithal, the big sure that I can put them in positions so they can have the best education in whatever it is that they wanna pursue. They can have the best health.

They can have the best chance at life. Let's do it. And that's why I work so hard. I work so hard so that my kids can have the best so that their life is in that. I like that. So I knew you pre-kid. I met you when I was 21.

I think you were 25. And I was so impressed with all that you were doing. I know you were working with the youth. I was working with the youth. And you had your own company. She was a journalist and had her own magazine. And I thought that was so cool. So much so that I was like, I got to be a part of this.

But you, it was funny because we're like so close in age. I'm literally four years younger than you. So you just gotten your deal with While and Out I think you were in season one or season two when you and I actually ended up working downtown yeah you were in the office yeah you were in the LA Center studios yep and you were cool you were really nice to the kids they were nervous as hell and Nick you know it's such an amazing concept. She created a magazine for students by students. So it was like, whoa. It was such a brilliant idea.

It lit things up. It was amazing. It's like a newspaper, a school newspaper on steroids. You had all of the celebrities on the cover. So it was like literally for publicists, it was a good look to have your client on celebrity high. And I just wanted to kind of amplify it and whatever I could do to turn it up,

but it was a brilliant concept. You did. But now take me back to your original pitch of Wild'n Out, because that to me was like your second go-round, at least from afar, right? Your second real big go-round just doing all you at this point. Nobody believed in Wild'n Out at the beginning, because everybody wanted me to focus on being a movie star, which is a great idea. You know what I mean? And at the top back then, they only wanted you to be one thing. And that was why I looked up to Will Smith so much, because he did it all.

But they were like, there's only one him. You need, let's go become a movie star and then you can focus on music and TV. And I had been doing a bunch of stuff with MTV, like they're guest hosting on TRL and they're different game shows and they love me. So they gave me a deal and they were like that's what Ashton was doing punk and he's like oh you want to do a show like this I was like nah not really I want to do a show of my friends you know and like mix of hip-hop and comedy and improv yeah talk your shit and they were like we don't understand what you're saying we should do like a game show like punk and I was like nah I'm telling

you this is it so I took my own money and I rented out a comedy club on Pico called The Comedy Union and got my friends together that was hustling and trying to figure it out. People that was trying to make a name for themselves like Kevin Hart, Cat Williams, and a bunch of people that nobody knew at the time. Cat Williams was called Cat in the Hat back then. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, everybody came.

And Chris Spencer, who's like one of the dopest writers and producers and directors in the game right now, he helped. We just got a bunch of people together and said, yo, we just going to do it. And I was inspired by stuff that had come before me, like Deaf Comedy Jam, Uptown Comedy Club, whose line is it anyway? And I was like, yo, our generation needs something like that.

And that's what we created right out of that. But you were the one financing it. Financed it all. And how risky were you thinking? So then when that once I showed them what I shot, they were like, we love it. And I was like, good, because I own it. And they had to pay like they way. You know what I mean?

Yeah. We did a great deal and still to this day. And now when you first did your deal, was it like a licensing partnering deal? It was, I mean, I'll be honest back then, I didn't even understand it, but the fact that I owned out, I owned the Wildin Out name 100 percent. And so eventually later on, once it became more successful, they came back to me and was like, yo, we, we, we need a piece of that. The shareholders see we winning. So, you know, how can we write you a very

large check so that we can officially be partners so it can be part of, you know, the, the Paramount system. So of course I obliged, you know, everything got a price tag. Everything has a price, but I'll never relinquish ownership. And that's great. So now around this period, you're doing really well. You're doing extremely well with Wild'n Out. You're well known. You're helping me out by the way. I can't even tell you. Just a short quick story. I couldn't afford the rent on my office. And I remember telling Nile, like Nile, I can't even pay the phone bill on this office anymore. And I can't even afford the rent.

And I was like, ask Nick if you can move in. And what you don't know is, Dorian or someone, Nile, someone has said you can move in. And so whenever Nick would pull up to the studio, I didn't know if Nick knew I had moved in. So you would come in and I'd like hide somewhere in the corner and I think one day you were like, what's up? And I was just like, I don't know if he knows that I work out of it.

But I remember you stopped me like, well you didn't say hi. I was like, I'm not really here. I thought you were squatting. That's hilarious. But um, no, I was definitely a big supporter and fan of your whole movement. But during that ride, we get through a little bit of turbulence. So you, we have success with Wild'n Out. You have AGT, which is paying you a crazy amount. I knew they were paying you an insane amount because you always had dressers and people coming in or whatever.

It was the number one show on television. Yes. And then you release your comedy special. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had three comedy specials, but the last one is the one that pissed them off. Yes, yes. And the last one pissed them off.

Yeah. The water gets choppy. I want to know the feelings, the vibes, the everything. I was confident. I mean, that's one thing. I'm overly confident. Since I've been labeled a narcissist at how much I believe and love myself.

So I told them they take their job and stick it where they need to stick it. Now I know Goldman. Yeah, yeah. He did, none of my team, my managers, they thought I was crazy. They thought I was having a mental breakdown. They thought I shouldn't, you know, I should,

people are literally from Howard Stern, CEOs of big giant companies like, man, opportunities like this don't come around. You're one of the top hosts in television. You're gonna ruin everything. Just over just, you're a joke and your freedom of speech. I was like, yeah. And I learned from, you know, big bros and examples like Dave Chappelle and people I've

watched personally go through stuff. I'm like, this is my opportunity to stand firm in my beliefs. And I quit AGT. Now, AGT at the time, was it paying you more than Wallen out at the time? Yeah, at that time. I mean, it's network television. I'm still, but even then I was one of the highest paid television hosts. You were, but now I remember watching you go through that thinking, I never really get

along with Goldman, by the way. We made up by the way. Oh, nice. So you know, we're friends now. That's good. Or we're buddies. But I remember thinking like Goldman's gonna have like a stroke watching this deal, this whole situation. He's gonna

turn down crazy amount of money or whatever on some I'm gonna believe in myself and freedom of speech. And I remember thinking, oh, okay, we gonna see, you know. Anyway, it was so much into that because it was like me being a black man in Hollywood, me being young in Hollywood, me like so it was a lot of things. So I ended up like parting ways with a lot of people firing individuals because I felt like they didn't believe in me because everybody was thinking like you, you're lucky. You should you should be grateful that you have this job. There's, you know, we normally don't let guys like you in here. And I'm like, fuck you. That's like, I got offended by people.

Really, they was just probably looking out for me. But they were like, yo, you're gonna ruin your career. When I was like, well, I'll show you this job doesn't make me, I'm gonna go make a bigger and better show. And I did. Now, working with you personally, I think gonna go make a bigger and better show. Yeah, now working with you personally, I think I saw a lot of that behind the scenes. Yeah. But what I also was able to see was your elevator pitch game was remarkable. I always tell people like

when you see a deal, Nick did it from the beginning, the middle and the end. And he came up with it and he sold it himself. I've heard stories about you writing movies, pitching it and getting a deal and then going home to write the script after you sold it. I've done that a bunch of times. I got the script. I'm just working on it. I have it to you next week. And now with chat GPT, you can actually really do that. Back then, I was literally up all night writing scripts at something I had already sold dude I've been I talked to your dad we're both

heavily into AI and chat gbt I've been joking chat gbt is like the word level of where AI is now there's other platforms that will like that do annihilate it yeah they literally like you down put your brain and you say write the script from this perspective and these interviews and done. It's crazy. What's your favorite AI program? Right now it's Sentra. Now when I first got Sentra, it was too complex.

Yeah, your dad was the one that showed me a couple of notes from me. I was like, yeah, but now I kind of understand the concept. Yeah. There's in video that I did a little. NVIDEO was good. But I want to do a whole compilation of what, based on what, like I have a password sheet that I gave to like my family and friends and it says like this is what this app is specifically good for. And so if you use all of them together, it's heaven. Like I don't want to be graphic, but like I would have sex with AI. I'm so obsessed with AI.

I'm so obsessed with AI. I think that's good. They're making that possible very soon. I'm just saying like I'm that into it. Like, that's all I talk about. So, but I want to take it back to this era because there's a couple scary patches where I feel like in my spirit, I was like praying for you. There was one part where I even sent you an email.

I looked in my emails and I read that email back and I was like, did I see that? There was probably so much stuff that I've seen that I might have liked, especially because the head space out. No, you responded. You responded and you were very nice and I was like, why? But there was a lot of love out there and I appreciate it when people saw that I was going through stuff because sometimes I was going through stuff health-wise and then sometimes I was going through stuff business-wise but like it's all eyes on me.

So it's like magnified from the media, there are people, they just be in my business but people know like, oh shit, he's going through something right now. Yeah, and it's hard because you embody strength. So during this period, you say goodbye to AGT. Now this is the remarkable comeback that I loved. You end up on Masked Singer, which ends up being number one again. Bigger than AGT. Bigger than AGT again.

So everything they said I couldn't do. You got, it was that moment like a, ugh, ugh. Absolutely. I mean, that was the plan. I was like, and again, cause AGT was on Fox. My bad. AGT was on NBC and Mad Singers on Fox. So I literally was the competition and went and just, you know.

Show them what they, where they messed up. Exactly, and it was like, you know, people were like, that's never been done before. So where somebody literally tells somebody to go stick it where the sun don't shine and then you think they could cancel you or get rid of you and go across the street and make an even bigger show.

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It was in the middle of pandemic. I don't know if it was a life check, but it was. I felt like it was a chin check. From the outside. It was a chin check. From the outside looking in, people was worried. I was worried.

Everybody thought I was over. That was when I sent my little vulgar email of, these mugs, these mugs. Oh, I'm Jewish and Jamaican, so I'm going to say this. Right. I'm going to say this delicately, but I feel like my little brother, you know, Eagle. We had a little past because we are Jewish.

Yeah, yeah. I want to say this. But you got chinchacked by the Jews. How do you want to word it? I feel like, I mean, how do you want to word it? I feel like, I mean, I don't have to be delicate because I feel it's such a growing experience for me that I learned that

even if you're not intentionally trying to hurt someone or a community, when you have a powerful voice people can get scared of it. If it's not having, if it's not shedding a light, a positive light. And I always wanna be responsible. And Minister Farrakhan was one of the people that actually shared this with me.

He was like, if you don't speak truth, you don't really have power. You don't wanna speak anything that's not the truth. So if there's something that you have said that isn't the truth and someone can challenge you and say, this isn't true, then now I'll never have to say that again. But if it's the truth, stand firm on it. And that was the lesson that I learned. That was what I was attempting to project.

But it was so much going on that it felt like, oh, he apologized. Oh, he not going to apologize. It became about what everyone else thought, opposed to what the actual lesson was. And that's even why out of that process, I've created a platform called not cancel culture, but council culture, because that's what we all should be seeking wise counsel to where we're all held accountable for the things that we do and say, but it has to be displayed in a way that where you can look to others, to other communities, to attempt to understand one another and get to the truth.

That's why when you look at situations like apartheid, they had truth and reconciliation. That was a thing where once we get the truth. That's why when you look at situations like apartheid they had truth and reconciliation. That was a thing where once we get the truth then now we can reconcile or even in the Jewish community as well as in our community there is a process of atonement and repentance to where there's steps to it but the first step is acknowledging and saying look we have an issue and then apologizing to where you are wrong and then taking that accountability after apology and then now offering up what the two of you can do together.

And that's really how that's the process of atoning. And I got a chance to do that live and live in color in front of the world. Yeah, you did. And it made me I made I made more money that year than I had ever made before in 2020. I made more relationships and friendships with, you know, now, you know, myself and the CEO of the ADL, shout out to my man, Jonathan, like we literally are not only great friends, but we have a podcast together. We get to talk in real time about things that are going on in the world,

you know, from our various communities. And it's a beautiful thing, you know what I mean? Our kids hang out together and you know, and but it was a learning process for me, but at no point was I ever scared or felt threatened. I was more than anything, I was like, I wanted to represent who I was and my character because I felt like people were assassinating my character in so many ways. And I feel like that's what's going on in the world right now with so many figures that in the 60s and civil rights and before all the way Jim Crow to slavery, it was a regular thing for us to be assassinated in public. Now, instead of physical assassinations, it's character assassinations

and they want to show that they can get rid of you or assassinate you, tarnish your name, all that you built to show like, hey, know your place. And they tried to assassinate my character and they couldn't do it. Yeah, I didn't, at the time I didn't see anything that you had said that was bad. So maybe I have- It's the media though. I have to go back and maybe double check, but I didn't see anything. It's the media, it's from the perspective.

Like you didn't see anything because you know me and you know how it is, but there were definitely things out there that they could take an interview, cut it one way, put it in perspective. And as I said, the media is- So that's kind of what they ran off with. Yeah, it's manipulated entertainment to design, or designed to influence all.

And that's what it does. So if one group wants to say, you know, you're anti-Semite, they can take this conversation and say, see? You know, or, but if somebody wants to say, you know, that I'm racist towards this group or that I'm, like, you can take any interview, any soundbite, especially today, and manipulate it in a way for it to say whatever you want it to say and have a perspective. So we gotta be responsible for what we say. We gotta stand firm on the truths that we know.

But then at the same time, if someone is offended, if you've hurt somebody, I do this with my kids all the time. I said one of the greatest lessons through this process, literally saw my kids outside throwing rocks and somebody got hit with a rock. And then my kids were pleading with me like, dad, I didn't mean to hit them with the rock. I was like, but you still hit someone with a rock.

You have to apologize. I know you didn't mean to do it, but the right thing to do is you hurt someone. And then we'll get to why you were throwing rocks later and what do you mean or what, let's figure out, let's do something different than throwing rocks or throw them in any direction where no one can get hit. But the first thing you must do is apologize. And through that as a father,

that's the lesson that I had to step back and say, you know what? I have no problem. Apologize. I'm man enough and humble enough to apologize to anybody that I've hurt or offended. And you know, that, that allowed me to grow so much because I was that guy. I ain't saying sorry. No, I stand for this and this and this.

And ain't nobody gonna make me do nothing. But my characters, I never wanna hurt anybody. I always wanna be a light. I always wanna be on the highest frequency. I always wanna be somebody that, you know, can bring people closer together and build platforms and give opportunities. And, you know, I think people see that from my character.

So I'm never gonna do everything perfect or the right way, but I'm always gonna have the right intentions and integrity is super important to me. But at the time with the whole situation with Wild N Out, there had to have been some inner battles because you have so many people on payroll. Yeah. It affected a lot of people. I went through so many ups and downs. I went like, fuck this, I'm walking away, I don't

want none of this. Like I'm done, y'all can have it. Wait, no, that's mine. Give me that. I'm like, I'll do it on my own. Like it was so much going on, but like I was always thinking about, you know, how many, you know, families and households and you know, people, they were scared. So I was never worried obviously, but I was like, man, I don't want this thing to go scared. So I was never worried obviously, but I was like, man, I don't want this thing to go away. So the hundreds of people that eat off of this no longer get to. So again, it was a humbling process.

I say it was a character kaleidoscope for me. I was able to see everyone's true colors in real time. And some people rocked with me, some people didn't, some relationships are stronger because of it. Some are non-existent because of it. Well, now we take you to now where I turn on, well, I want to say turn on. I go on social media.

You're all over social media. But one of the things now that I'm all the way caught up is I see you do council culture. I see you do class. Cannon's class. Cannon's class. Yeah. But the thing that makes me kind of, oh, is, and I don't know how you do class. Cannon's class. Cannon's class. Yeah. But I, the thing that makes me kind of, oh, is,

and I don't know how you do it because I get defensive. If someone like says something, I'm one of those people that get defensive. I'm working on it. I'm just like knee deep and still working on it. But sometimes people will say stuff to you, at least in clips from what I've seen. Oh, in council culture?

I'm like, oh, he's, he's taking this very, very well. Like, I don't even know why he opens himself up to this. I think first of all, because council calls, because I'm in therapy constantly. I go to therapy a few times a week, and a lot of times I have personal relationships with the therapists that are on that show. And if anyone's ever been in therapy,

you're supposed to be open, honest, and vulnerable to a point where, even if you're completely wrong, like even with my,istic personality diagnosis, whether I believe it or not, if this is what a doctor said I have, I have no problem talking about it with a doctor and expressing. I've had many, like some doctors say, well, I don't believe that. I think you're just this, this, and this. Or like, oh, I think you have it, but so does the majority of the people in your industry.

They just never been diagnosed or don't talk about it. So the fact that I'm living my life openly for others to embrace, because it is all about community and counseling. Culture just means it's where we cultivate, it's where we grow. So I'm sacrificing my- You definitely sacrifice out there.

I sit there because I say things and I feel ways that there's a lot of other men that are out there. Men don't have a space to actually be vulnerable and ask tough questions and literally challenge themselves. And I live my life out in public anyway. People have so many opinions about me anyway. So if anything, one thing is I'm not hiding nothing. I'm not lying. You see the work happening in real time. And the goal is to just be the best human being or the best spirit having a human experience as I can.

Well, I do. I will commend you on the, like owning being a narcissist. Cause usually if you ever break up with someone, the first thing they gonna say is, you was a narcissist. I think everybody has a level of it. And when you get the test, it takes hours to do it. It's over days and all that stuff. You realize there's a spectrum, like within anything.

And there's certain things that, when you think about goodbye, obviously, like, you know, I'm not a Donald Trump level narcissist. There's, there's, there's a, I don't want to put my name on every building and I don't have rage. And you know, I'm not empathetic to, you know, whole commune or non-empathetic to whole communities. But there's things that when you want to be the best, when you think you're the best, when you believe in yourself, when you believe you have the ability to do something that no one else says, and especially in business, that's great. In a personal relationship, as a father, that's not good. And so even as a father, I've saying, all right, well, I'm learning how to get rid of some

of those narcissistic tendencies when parenting. Because a lot of people, like I'll give you an example, something that a lot of, a narcissistic thing that a lot of parents do that they don't know that they do that I've learned is that you think your children are an extension of you. That's a narcissistic trait that like, I made you. You gotta do what I,

and if you don't agree or do what I said or what I taught you, I'm disowning you, or I'm upset with you. That's what a narcissist does. And you think that's good parenting, but no, your children aren't an extension. You're actually an extension of your children if you look at it the way,

and they're their own individuals. So that's why I stopped using terms like legacy, because a legacy is something that you do and build. Your children are your lineage and they go and do whatever, but you didn't, oh, I'm making a legacy. Like, no, my legacy shouldn't be my children. Like we are blessed to take stewardship over for probably only 18 years of an independent spirit that will go on and be whoever they are. They're not yours in that sense. You are here to train them and operate, you know, a safe space and provide for them for

God, but they're not yours in that sense of that they have to do everything you say. Now, obviously discipline and all that stuff You keep them safe But if your child wants to be this or identifies as this or grows up to have this career, that's What they're supposed to do but and I'm learning this in real time Now where as much as I want my son to be this I want my daughter to do this I just got to love them regardless of You know what? I want my daughter to do this, I just got to love them regardless of what... I can't project my beliefs onto them and the only thing I can do is be the best example that

I can be and hopefully they want to be like me, but I can't force them to be an extension of me. So that's stuff I learned in therapy. I might take some parenting tips. Because you think you're supposed to be like, oh no, I'm going to sure that you do this and I'm gonna give you this and you better do this because I said so. I just be like, I want you to be a, I say this but I get corrected a lot. I'll be like, I want her to be the best version of me or like stronger than me, better than me, like 10 times better than who I was. And that's a me. That's beautiful. She will be because you're giving, but when you start projecting your trauma onto your

child and that's when, now that feels like pressure. You know what I mean? You don't have to be anything like me. I just want you to be the best version of yourself. And that's, you know, but you know, we're not preaching. We eat while broke. And then what made you end up going to get start getting counseling? I mean, it started in the church. I mean, we always look to the pastor and different elements of Christianity to, you know, you seek wise counsel and whether it's relationships. I'd probably say I started with relationships.

Then I started working in the prison systems, you know, where they do group therapy. And I watched a lot of psychologists and professors and stuff come in and I watched group therapy and that's kind of how like AA meetings. And I was like, I found myself, I was working as a philanthropic process and I was getting more out of it than, you know, some of the men and women that were incarcerated. I was like, wow, this talking things out and sharing like this works. And so seeing all that, started doing personal therapy every week. Like I said, I've been in couples therapy many a time from past relationships and I

just grew to love it. Grew to love like being open, being honest and just hopefully being a beacon and a conduit for mental wellness and because it's needed right now more than ever. So, you know, shout out to all the other individuals who see it as well. You know, there's a lot of entertainers that and artists that are moving into that space of mental wellness. And it just, before this, though, it really wasn't something specifically black men spoke about or even knew about. So the fact that now we can have platforms,

we can do it openly. I mean, you see it all across the line. I see it a lot now. I see rappers just rapping about being a man and relationships. I'm like, dang, isn't that art? Is it a lot now. I see rappers just rapping about being a man and relationships. I'm like, dang, isn't that hard as a man? Yeah, we feel too. I see. I literally was scrolling like three in the morning the other day. I saw some rapper and all his songs was like about like, I guess feelings. And I was just like, you guys have a lot of

feelings, a lot of frustration. But it's what to do with it now too, because before we didn't, we bottled it up and then it turned into other things that weren't so healthy. But now, you know, it's like, you know, I rather meditate than medicate. You know what I mean? And I see you doing that a lot, meditation and all that. Yeah, I've always done it, but it's like now- But you be doing it on the cameras. Yeah, you know, I got, that's really, that's like a minute, two minutes.

Like usually I do it like 20 minutes a day. I thought you had ADD or ADHD. I do, that's why that helped me fight it. You know what I mean? I tried it. I can't get my mind to sit still. You're not supposed to sit still. That's a myth.

You're supposed to all clear your mind. No, you allow everything to flow. You just got to sit still. That's a myth. You're supposed to all clear your mind. No, you allow everything to flow. You just got to be still. It's about being still and breathing. And then you focus on your breath. And then you literally get a euphoric sensation. Like the endorphins and dopamine is released and you're like, whoa, I get it now. And that probably happens around like minute eight or nine. But it's just focusing on breathing and still let every thought happen. Don't try to control your thoughts because that's not meditating. You let them thought and they just, but what will happen is your thoughts will just slow down and just focus on breathing or they tell you you get a mantra.

So some people say, oh, you pick a word, you want to focus on money. You say money for eight minutes straight, money going to happen. But it's as simple as that. It's really like, especially because I have ADHD, because I'm always going, I value quiet time, I value stillness. I tend to meditate at four in the morning where everything else is quiet. Sometimes I fall asleep, you know what I mean?

But as long as I'm here 15, 20 minutes. And you get up out of bed and sit on your. You got to, if you stay in bed, you're going to go back to sleep. So you got it. But you find a space, the sun's out. If it's like you get you a little area. Okay. And put your little music on and vibes and just sit and breathe and talk to God. Well, I appreciate your time.

I did walk around your office. I was looking for like chairs and tables, trying to invade, figure out how to do this kitchen. But you look far from. Organized. No, you look like your brain is this studio. There is literally so much going on. Everywhere. I'm secretly hoping that you will allow us to do like a little tour following you around.

If you don't, that's cool. But when I look at this, this is how I really believe your brain operates. He's got the Daily Cannon Show. He's got class, the council, the kids' room. Yeah, I got a nursery upstairs. Did you go to my office? That was crazy. I couldn't find your office. It's next to the nursery.

Where is it? It looked like a junk room right now. Oh, it was like a bunch of junk. That's your office? Right next to the... I thought it was the one in the corner with the little teddy bears. What in the corner with teddy bears? It's like the little porcelain teddy bear things.

Oh, yeah, that is my office. That's like, wait, yeah, that's, I mean, it's a bunch of junk and he's talking about the bear bricks. And like, there's one that- There was one next to the kids room. It looked dark and like shadowy in there. I was like, I'm staying away from that room. Yeah, I think that was the one.

But- I mean, again, it's all over the place. The commerce room. But it's very nostalgic here. I'm surprised that you're able to meditate just walking a minute in this studio. I normally don't meditate here though. I like to meditate outside. That one keeps me from falling asleep.

And I like, you know, if the sun's coming up or something like that. I love your gym. Yeah, that's- That gym is phenomenal. And that goes outside. I like working out outside too. So thank you so much for your time. No doubt.

I gotta go pick up my kids. I got school. Your kids are back in school? Already this was the first we got. I showed up today with my kid and I was like on the phone and I was like where are all the parents? Well the preschool started back I think uh the older kids started back. I'm in preschool. I showed up and they was empty gates was drawn and I was like and they said I guess to the six and I thought today's the six that's what I thought and no apparently when they say to the six it means six is off the first day I was like well I hope Nick don't mind he got 12 kids thank you so much Nick I appreciate no doubt this is amazing thank you good to see you good to catch up great conversation Thank you so much Nick. I appreciate you doing this for us. No doubt. This was amazing. Thank you.

Good to see you. Good to catch up. Great conversation. Great interview. And now whenever you have a kids party. Oh! Please put Zariah in. Did you even know I had a kid in our house? I did not know. Yes or no? Absolutely. Put us on the list because your parties be lit.

Yes. You literally just missed. I've had like what? Five parties in the last month. So. In every time Zariah go, I show her like if they're in the last month. So two months. Every time Zariah go, I show her like if they're singing happy birthday, she'd be like mommy I want to go there now. I'm like Zariah it's three in the morning. What are you talking about? It already happened.

Definitely. So now I think I got one of my kids birthday is in February. He's a little older. And then the twins, theirs is in April. But then after that all the young kids from summer all the way to the end of the year, party, party, party. That's awesome.

And then can you just quickly, before we close out, run down a list of everything you have going on, because there's a lot. Yeah, so much. I don't even know where to go. But it's like, we'd be here for another hour. You got the Cannon Show? Yeah, we got the Daily Cannon.

That's every day. That's a show, as well as a radio show. radio show nationwide syndicated, all of that good stuff. Catch me in multiple cities or just watch it on YouTube or anywhere online. We live stream. So that's like, that's a platform. So many other influencers and creators that are a part of that. I'm excited. My Super Dad stuff.

I do a bunch of content with my kids. That's probably what I'm most excited about because I have so much fun doing that. And movies, we still doing those. We got a couple coming out this year, probably filming some this year as well. We got, we playing Spades. I like that. I really liked that.

Thank you. So bad I don't know how to play Spades. That's fun. We got, obviously Wildin' Out 20 year anniversary is 2025. So you'll see more of that, more episodes coming up. Tours more, we got the Wild'n Out crew starting. So that'll be fun. And then some more spin-offs and offshoots

of Wild'n Out from the talent there. Are you going to do a comedy, anything in comedy? Yeah. Like a special or? Well, you know, I've done a bunch of specials already, but now I'm gonna be producing some. We're building a whole new standup platform. So that'll be coming up. Man, so much stuff.

Cannon's Class, Council Culture, Kicks and Chicks. Trying to think all of the podcasts. Those are all podcasts. Council Culture is also a television show, a men's panel show. And we're doing Council Culture Con, and we're going to be doing mental wellness retreats and stuff for men. Wow. Is that going to be a nonprofit or is it like...

It's both, you know what I mean? But it's like I'm just learning and watching guys I look up to like Gary Vee, you know, different individuals that, you know, all like the TED Talk community and just really just focusing on mental wellness with that platform. Incredible, the label, the consumer products aspect of the world. We have a bunch of incredible products. Man. Too much, Too much.

So, Nassinger, like all of the stuff that you guys see me on. Thank you. No doubt. Thank you. Everyone, you can Google Nick, follow him anywhere. It's Nick Cannon. He doesn't really need a whole explanation. Except for these big ghosts. Except for these lights. He's turning the lights on and off.

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