The Breakfast Club - Eboni K Williams Doubles Down
Episode Date: May 3, 2023Eboni K Williams Doubles DownSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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Had enough of this country?
Ever dreamt about starting your own?
I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this.
It's surprisingly easy.
55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete.
Or maybe not.
No country willingly gives up their territory.
Oh my God.
What is that?
Bullets.
Listen to Escape from Zakistan.
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Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8,
1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced
to the world. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, and every single wig removal
together. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you
listen to podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast
Club. We got our guest co-host, Kim Whitley, here joining us. Now, if you're just joining us,
we're talking about Ebony K. Williams. She talked about she would never date a bus driver,
and then she doubled down and said this. I only saw a handful that even considered the possibility
of a bus owner being a more aspirational position. Now, I suspect that some of y'all are the same men
that were bringing home C's and D's on your report cards, only to then be coddled
by parents that said, well, that's okay as long as you're doing your best. Well, listen, I love
and believe in the excellence of black men. So no, my dear, C's and D's or any other form of
mediocrity is not okay. But could it be that black America has been sold a narrative of average, regular, and typical being good enough
for us. Well, see, that's called white supremacy. So we're taking your phone calls this morning.
What's your thoughts? Hello, who's this? Hi, my name is Janae. Hey, Janae. I'm calling from Detroit.
What up, Doe? Good morning, DJ MP, Charlamagne, Kim. Hey. What's your thoughts, mama? I definitely
feel like this is the reason why she's single. I feel like if the person is putting God first, is loving you unconditionally,
why should the occupation matter?
Because she want to go to dinner somewhere, I guess expensive,
and, you know, women are like, who paying?
I'm with Kim.
Like, me and my husband, we get out here, we work hard, you know.
I have five kids, pray to him, he has two.
But he loves God first and he loves me and my kids.
So as long as he's providing and meeting all our needs.
That's right, and you're happy.
Get out here and do what you need to do to get out here and hustle.
Right.
And make sure that your family is doing all, you know, you're taking care of your family.
But that's probably why she's single now, so.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, thank you.
That's some good advertisement for her.
I'm telling you, we done said her name so many times this morning.
Oh, no, Ebony the homie.
Yeah, no, she's the homie.
She's been up here several times. But you know what made me think about it, too, is the people that support Ebony,
that watch her shows, that watch her on reality shows, that watch her new judge show,
those are, quote, unquote, the average.
The average.
Those average people you're talking about yes the
everyday working class are who you want to support your podcast you don't want them to turn away from
you because it's gonna go down the ratings are gonna go down right hello who's this hi it's
rachel and rachel good morning talk to us rachel what you think about ebony k williams commons
good morning i myself am offended for all the many students that I've educated who have become bus drivers, plumbers, electricians.
She needs to retract her comment and make it more personal.
If she's a millionaire and she prefers to date one, she should say that.
But she should not talk down about men who are out here working hard, normal, quote, unquote, normal jobs.
But I'm more offended by the C's and D's comments.
Right.
Because I've been educating students since 99, and I am a mother, and that is so disrespectful.
Yeah.
There are children out here who can only get a C. Do you know why?
Why, Maya?
Learning disabilities.
They have anxiety.
Hmm?
I said learning disabilities, but it also a systemic bias in education.
Exactly.
Yup.
Thank you.
And there's a food bias.
My kids are taking a New York State math test today.
They're not ready for it, right?
Because it's a bias test.
Yes.
So how does she know that C's and D these weren't their best and that their parents weren't doing their best?
That was a horrible comment.
And she really, really needs to say something again.
Well, thank you, Rachel.
And we appreciate you being a teacher.
We know how tough it is.
We know how difficult it is.
I know you don't get the supplies you need.
I know you're overworked.
And I know you've got to deal with some of them crazy kids sometimes.
We appreciate you. Yes, you're overworked. And I know you got to deal with some of them crazy kids sometimes. We appreciate you.
Yes, we do.
Thank you.
And I appreciate you guys because comments like this should be discussed.
But this might be a learning lesson for her.
Rachel, where you from, Rachel?
I'm from the Bronx.
I teach in the Bronx as well.
Oh, Jesus.
Lord have mercy.
God bless you.
Can we buy you some lunch today?
Can we buy you some lunch today since you're a teacher from the Bronx?
What's your cash app?
Absolutely.
But what I would prefer is I own a juice bar the Bronx, what's your cash app? Absolutely.
But what I would prefer is I own a juice bar in Harlem if I could shout out my juice bar.
There you go.
See, I like that.
Go ahead.
Go.
Unc's Place.
I'm at Unc's Place.
1932 Madison Avenue.
Unc's Place.
What's it called?
92 what?
Madison Avenue?
1962 Madison Avenue.
1962 Madison Avenue. If you're in Harlem, go check her out and we appreciate you again rachel thank you thank you guys i appreciate the breakfast
absolutely all right rich good morning rich good morning good morning now you agree with
you agree with ebony k williams i i think that she could have worded that better. But at the same token, I was a trash worker for 20 years, right?
And they need us out here.
I started my own company.
My wife and I started our own company since then.
But there's nothing wrong with being a trash worker.
Nobody aspires to be a trash worker.
You see what I'm saying? So we have to do,
so, you know,
our parents have to do better
to push us to do better.
You know, although we,
we are essential workers.
We are needed out here.
We are necessary,
but we're not looked for.
We are always looked down upon.
No, you're not.
No, not at all.
No, you're not.
Not to us.
Not in New York.
Because guess what?
When that trash start piling up, where is the sanitation workers?
Yeah.
Where are the sanitation workers to pick up the work?
But I'm going to put it to you like this.
We all want it when we all need it.
But when we aren't needed, they don't want to look at us like that.
But that's the thing.
Y'all always need it.
I can't think of a time that y'all not need it.
I think it's changed. I think that
might have been 20 years ago. I tried
to holler at my trash
worker. He was so fine. He got out that truck.
I was like, wait a minute.
I said, how you
doing? Let me help you with that bag.
Thank you, Rich. I ain't gonna lie.
I appreciate all the sanitation workers.
Sometimes when you block the street, sometimes we can't get by.
But other than that, I appreciate you guys.
That's right.
That's right.
What's the moral of the story?
The moral of the story is that everyday working class people are not average.
They're not mediocre.
They're not typical.
And it's the level of elitism in those words that I don't like.
And, you know, Ebony is the homie.
She's entitled to her preference.
She can date whoever she wants to date.
She can have whatever standard she wants.
But let's not put down everyday working
class people in the process. And us
entertainers, we need to stop
over-inflating our worth, okay? We are
not essential. And if those everyday
working class people don't support us,
we don't have careers.
Don't put them down. That's right. Get to Breakfast Club.
Good morning. Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own?
I planted the flag.
This is mine.
I own this.
It's surprisingly easy.
55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete.
Or maybe not.
No country willingly gives up their territory.
Oh, my God.
What is that?
Bullets.
Listen to Escape from Zakistan.
That's Escape from Z-A-Q-A-Stan on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going.
That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about.
It's a chance to sit down with my guests
and dive even deeper into their stories,
their journeys, and the thoughts that arise
once we've hit the pavement together.
Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle.
We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other.
So join us each Saturday for Civic Cipher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, y'all. Nimany here.
I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records.
Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman,
Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop.
Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history.
Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus
nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing.
Check it. And it began with me. Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat.
Nine months before Rosa, it was called a moment.
Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records.
Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise.
Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, everyone.
This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga.
On July 8th, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world.
We are going to be reliving every hookup,
every scandal, and every single wig removal together.
So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.