The Breakfast Club - Eboni K. Williams Responds To Nene Leakes 'Starless' Housewives Comments
Episode Date: February 1, 2023Eboni K. Williams Responds To Nene Leakes 'Starless' Housewives CommentsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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Now, since we have the Honorable Judge Ebony K. Williams.
Last theme music.
Presiding.
They just announced he has a court show coming out.
Brand new syndicated daytime court show, Equal Justice with Judge Ebony K. Williams.
Now, what makes an attorney a judge a judge attorney?
How do you become a judge if you're an attorney?
It's TV envy. I didn't know. I just wanted to make sure.
No, but you have to be licensed to practice.
And I'll ask you to mediate so we can arbitrate.
Okay.
Yes. Any licensed attorney can arbitrate.
Gotcha.
Which is what we do on television.
Okay.
Well, you know, we do Breakfast Club Court here on The Breakfast Club.
Correct.
And the past couple of days before Ebony K. Williams, our guest co-host was Miss NeNe Leakes.
Yes.
NeNe Leakes stopped through.
And NeNe was up here yesterday, and NeNe made some comments that, you know, went crazy viral.
They were all online yesterday.
And we're wondering, was she hating?
Or not?
Or was she speaking some subjective truth can we hear it
so the side piece was gonna become famous off of them but are they famous
who robin and giselle you know i think she's talking about her her husband yeah her husband
she said that the lady was gonna become famous off of them them. And I was like, are they famous?
It's the question.
Yes! Robin and Giselle on the Real Housewives of Potomac.
They may be known.
There's a difference between famous and known.
And then we asked about
New York Housewives.
I thought a lot of them
on the Real Housewives franchises were famous.
They all famous?
I would think so, especially on the Potomac and Atlanta.
They're famous?
I thought so.
Did you watch New York?
New York Housewives?
Uh-uh.
Who was even on that show?
I think they got rid of the whole entire cast
and they have a new cast.
Ebony K. Williams was on the show.
She was on it.
I don't know her either.
She'd be here this week.
Is she famous or is she known?
I think fame is subjective, right?
You can be walking through the mall with your 14-year-old and she might lose it over a TikTok star.
So that TikTok star is famous to them.
You know what I mean?
All right.
So let's open up the phone lines.
800-585-1051.
Was NeNe Leakes our guest host yesterday?
Was she hating?
Because she basically was saying none of that house was famous.
Oh, she's been the truth.
She said it's a difference between known and famous.
She actually called Robin starless. I disagree. I think fame, celebrity, it's a difference between known and famous. He actually called Robin starless.
I disagree.
I think fame, celebrity,
it's all subjective.
You know, like I said,
there's kids out here
that look at TikTok stars
and YouTube stars
that we may not know
as the biggest things
in the world.
Let's talk about it.
800-585-1051.
We'll take your calls.
When we talk about famous,
I think of Michael Jackson.
I think of Kevin Hart.
I think of these huge,
famous people.
That's old school famous, though. Like, that's old school famous. Beyonce's famous. Rihanna's famous. I think of Michael Jackson. I think of Kevin Hart. I think of these huge famous people. That's old school famous, though.
Like, that's old school famous.
Beyonce's famous.
Rihanna's famous.
So is Jake Paul.
Do you know what I mean?
So is a lot of the housewives.
But are the housewives famous?
Are they the fame as of Beyonce or Rihanna?
I mean, that's different levels.
What are you talking about?
That's famous to me.
That's known and famous.
There's stars, people on TV that's not as famous as Rihanna.
What are you talking about? Well, we'll talk to Eminem and Kay Williams when we come back. She's our guest host. That's known and famous. There's stars, people on TV that's not as famous as Rihanna. What are you talking about?
Well, we'll talk to Evany K. Williams when we come back.
She's our guest host.
And she's the judge.
800-585-1051.
Let's go.
The Breakfast Club.
Can we read that evidence in court?
Absolutely.
Matter of fact, why don't you read it, Charlamagne?
Read it out loud.
It's closer.
Go ahead.
You can read that.
Well, this is from NeNe Leakes February 3rd
at 9.07am
are you still on the show?
three days later
February 12th
hello
and then two days
from that
Ebony K. Williams
responds
hello NeNe
happy to chat in person
my cell is
da da da da da da da
let me know next time
you're in New York City
yo NeNe
is so crazy.
Like, are you still on the show?
I can just hear the shade in her voice.
Hello?
So Nene does know who you are.
And then she proceeded to call, per my instruction, or invitation, rather.
Oh, she did call you?
Yes, we had a very lovely chat.
No.
Absolutely.
So I'm not sure what was meant when she came on this beloved program and said
i don't know her that's just factually not true um we so but i want to say this so that that
is just a lie okay so you do know me nini and you do know that i was the first and only black
housewife in fact i was named in nini's legal. I am actually a named person as an example of the racial discrimination that she alleged Bravo of participating in.
She cites my example, what I went through with Ramona on camera.
So, yeah, the court documents say you do know me, Nene.
Okay, so anyway.
So if you catch somebody lying, does that mean their whole testimony is a lie?
I would argue that at closing, Envy.
I would argue that now you have no credibility
on the topic
and you have a reputation
for lying.
So do we go to the jury
at all?
Is this a closed case?
No, not case closed.
Well, guilty of hating
for sure
and guilty of lying
because you absolutely
reached out to me.
I didn't reach out to you.
But also,
the difference is
because I do agree
with Nene
on the broader point
of being known and being different famous.
Bravo Housewives, Charlamagne specifically, we have a particular rabid fan base.
They actually have a name for that.
Bravo Liberty.
That's called a Bravo Liberty.
So when your celebrity is rude, if you are not a known individual but for being a housewife, you're a Bravo Liberty.
They can be really really big
celebrities like you say people standing in line people knocking people fainting people passing out
all of that that's great i've seen them do that to giselle and robin at their live podcast i believe
that i believe i have seen that i've seen them do it with some of my dumb dumb cast mates so
former cast mates so i believe that that is different though i was a shot that was a shot well they i'm done
uh you saw this season anyways um that is different though y'all than being i would say
a bona fide celebrity with an actual skill set i think that's the difference perhaps that nini
was talking to and i'm because i'm not a hater i will credit nini as i have done on this show as
i've done on the view uh you know which i guess hosts frequently, that Nene
transcended housewives as a genre.
And I would say Nene became famous
beyond being a housewife.
So, Bethany Frankel definitely
did. Bethany Frankel did, Nene did.
Teresa? Teresa Giudice? No.
You don't think so? Absolutely not. I think beyond the housewives,
Teresa is the Bravo
celebrity. I think you've
got somebody like Garcelle Bouvet who was a known
celebrity pre being a housewife
that only added to her celebrity. I don't count
her in the Kenya Moore of the world. Our Kandi
because they were already known. Oh, definitely not
Kandi. Kandi is a...
That was my point.
I think when you look at it, and maybe
like you said, a Bravo celebrity, but I always
thought Kandi was famous because
outside of just housewives, she had a successful career with Escape.
And she had a solo career.
She wrote Scrubs.
She is famous.
She's a Broadway producer.
She's halfway to an EGOT.
So she's famous.
She's famous.
Absolutely.
So what about Robin and Giselle?
They're Bravo celebrities.
I just was with Robin yesterday.
Had a great conversation.
Congratulated her on her new nuptials.
I don't even think that they would argue with that point.
Correct.
I could be wrong.
Let's go to the jury.
Now, starless, I would say that's wrong.
I think Giselle.
I think Robin's a star.
I think Katie's a star.
I think all those are stars.
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Hello, who's this?
Hi, Floor.
Floor, good morning.
What's your thoughts? You're in Breakfast Club Court. Yes. So, who's this? Hi, Floor. Floor, good morning. What's your thoughts?
You're in Breakfast Club Court.
Yes.
So I definitely agree with Mimi.
I think there's a huge difference between being famous and being known.
I mean, especially on the Housewives franchise, there's people that you can even recognize by taste.
And there's some that you hear the name and you're like, huh?
Who's that?
Okay. Interesting. So you agree with Mimi. and you're like, huh? Who's that? Okay.
Interesting.
So you agree with Nene.
Thank you, Mama.
Hello, who's this?
Hey, it's Kim.
Kim, good morning.
We're asking, do you agree with Nene or not?
Good morning.
I just want to say first, DJ and the Uncle Charles,
I love you.
We listen to you every morning.
We love you here in Duval.
Thank you.
We love you more.
I totally understand that Nene might have been trying to throw a little bit of shade, but she's not wrong.
I don't know none of those names.
Man, okay.
Big names.
Beyonce, Michael Jordan, Martha Stewart.
Who knows, man?
That's famous.
But that's different.
You're absolutely right.
But even when we talk about that level of fame, you can name people.
And we were talking behind the scenes.
We were naming somebody like Quinta Brunson.
We all love Abbott Elementary.
Quinta's winning all the awards.
But Quinta ain't the same as Rihanna.
No, at all.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's level to that, too.
Hello, who's this?
What's your name?
Oh, my name is Casey Kearney.
Hey, Casey Kearney.
Now, we're talking Nene.
She's in Breakfast Club Court right now.
Or I should say Ebony K. Williams Court right now. What's your thoughts?
Hating or not? Oh, she hating.
She hated. Just because you're
well-known, it also kind of means
you're famous because you can be well-known
and not do a damn thing.
Yes, but like,
if you're well-known, you're pretty much well-known
at this point. Everyone's going to walk up to you
and say, hi, I remember you. You're that guy who did something. Also, before Iknown, you're pretty much well-known at this point. Everyone's going to walk up to you and say, hi. I remember you.
You're that guy who did something.
Also, before I go.
You're that guy who did something.
You're that guy who did something.
You got to do something.
All right.
Well, 800-585-1051.
Sounds like we might have a mistrial.
Breakfast Club Court right now.
We played the audio from Nene.
Is she hating or not?
Let's talk about it.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God.
We are the Breakfast Club Court. We got our celebrity guest host, our guest host, Ebony K. Williams, joining us today.
And we are in Breakfast Club Court.
That's right.
And today we're in court because of what?
Because NeNe Leakes was our guest co-host the past couple of days.
And she went viral for some comments that she made, what she called, you know, Robin Dixon Starless.
And she said that, you know, some of the housewives are, she said, the difference between being famous
and being known. Some people said she was
hating. Some people say she was giving some subjective
truth. You know, our
judge here, Ms. Ebony K. Williams, has a
unique perspective, which she expressed.
What do you want to do? You want to go to the jury?
Let's hear it again.
Yeah, like again, I
was a housewife of real
housewives of New York City. the only black one of that cast
Nene really is not credible
to me in the conversation because when y'all ask her
you watch New York you know Ebony K. Williams
she said I don't know her
lie detector determined that was a lie
we've got the Instagram receipts to prove that
I'm also a named individual in Nene's
legal complaint against Bravo
anyway I do think there is a difference
between being a famous celebrity
and being a Bravo-lebrity.
When your notoriety,
which I think is what you're talking about, Charlamagne,
people know you.
You are notable.
You are public.
That has to be rooted in something
other than housewives for me to consider you famous.
Famous, I agree.
Yes.
I agree.
Let's go to the phone lines.
Hello, who's this? Hi, this is Raina from Show Screen. Hey,. Yes. I agree. Let's go to the phone lines. Hello, who's this?
Hi, this is Raina from Pearl Springs.
Hey, Raina.
Good morning.
We're talking Breakfast Club Court this morning.
Is Nene hating or not?
He's absolutely hating.
All right.
Why?
Why do you say that?
Well, I think that anyone who's well-known is famous.
Reality stars are famous. Reality stars are famous.
TikTokers are famous.
And maybe she's just mad she's not on the show no more.
Okay.
All right.
You think that was the case, Ebony?
She don't seem like she regrets not being on the show no more.
I don't think she wants to be on the show anymore.
I think NeNe feels that the genre of reality TV owes her more credit and more obligation
and maybe that she
hasn't really truly received her flowers.
But if you say that, then you would have to say everybody
does. You gotta say New York because New York
was one of the main ones. You don't remember New York?
Of course I remember.
Oh, you're talking about Tiffany.
I thought you were talking about Ramona.
Oh, absolutely.
I agree with that though. Flavor Flav,
New York, NeNe, they absolutely kicked down the road.iffer. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I agree with that, though. Flavor Flav, New York, Nene.
Like, they absolutely kicked down the road.
Created a whole genre, really.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Hello, who's this?
Good morning.
This is Rico calling in from New Haven, Connecticut.
Rico from Connecticut.
We talking.
Is Nene hating or not?
No, no, no.
She's definitely not hating.
I think there is a big difference between fame and being very well-known.
I want to make a comment on what Charlamagne said.
He said that, you know, TikTokers are, like, very famous to these kids.
Well, the kids know them, and I don't.
We're all walking through the mall, and only this kid knows who that is.
That person is very well-known.
That's not true, my brother, because I don't know if you ever heard of Mr. Beast.
Mr. Beast is, like like really big on YouTube mr. Beast had like 10,000
kids in the mall in New Jersey now you're not gonna sit and tell me just
cuz you don't know who mr. Beast is it 10,000 kids do that he's not famous well
yeah that's one example of it but um so for instance I would say someone like
Cardi B before she was famous she was just very well known.
Not everyone knew who she was, but a lot of people did.
But now she's famous.
Cardi B's famous.
She's famous in the traditional way that we know.
But being that we knew Cardi way back then, we had Cardi hosting parties at CIAA in Charlotte, you know, for our Breakfast Club Day party.
And they was loving Cardi then.
They was taking pictures with her and everything then.
It was just a smaller scale.
Yeah, it was way smaller scale, which means she was just very well known.
Famous is, when you walk through that mall, that mall might get shut down.
And that's the TikToker that you're responding to.
Yeah, the TikToker did it to her.
Mr. Beast did it.
By the way, there's not too many people who shut down malls, guys.
You know what I mean?
Like I said, I haven't seen it.
I mean, in this era.
No, because we have too much access to our celebs.
That was like a, what you call it, crisscross.
You know, that era when you came to the mall, that was our only access point to you.
So we would shut it down.
Now we can just watch you on our phones.
Nah, but you know what?
You know what though?
Mr. Beast did announce and tease he was coming there.
He didn't just pop up in the mall and went crazy.
He wasn't just at Foot Locker.
Nah, he wasn't just at Foot Locker.
But if Cardi B says, I'm coming to the mall, or J. Cole says, I'm coming to the mall,
or Khaled, Khaled does it all the time.
He comes in and he'll say, I'm coming to the sneaker store, and it's a zoo.
We've seen the people impersonate, the person that was impersonating Lil Durk.
Didn't they shut the mall down and they ran out the mall or something?
Because too many people thought he was yeah yeah all right
what's the moral of the story
we should ask
so what's the verdict
what's the verdict
the verdict is guilty
on all counts
I just need a gavel
guilty on all counts
Miss Nalix
and I do
at the same time
the culture does owe
her tremendous debt
for what she's done
for reality
that's it word all right well does she go to jail does she get lashes what happens And I do, at the same time, the culture does owe her tremendous debt for what she's done for reality.
That's it.
Word.
All right.
Well, does she go to jail?
Does she get lashes?
What happens?
Stop with the lashes stuff, bro.
Jesus Christ.
Just asking.
All right.
Are you into DNM?
No, no, no, no.
Well, we got rumors on the way.
We got to discuss Beyonce.
Are you ready?
Are you ready?
Well, we'll tell you about it when we come back.
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