The Breakfast Club - Eric Holder and Forest Whitaker Interview and More

Episode Date: September 30, 2019

Today on the show we had Attorney general Eric Holder stop by where he spoke about Trump impeachment, voter registration and more. Also, we had a first time guest stop by Forest Whitaker where he spoke about Bumpy Johnson Portrayal In 'Godfather Of Harlem', Malcolm X Relationship and more. Also, Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to Ohio inmates for escaping jail.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.

What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast

Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.

Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I can't believe you guys are the best.

Collectively known as Breakfast Club, bitches. Yep. Good morning, yo. Angel E's out today. Charlamagne was popping. Peace to the planet. It's Monday. Yes, it's Monday. Let me tell you something, man. I hate late, late football games. I hate when your team plays Sunday night football.

And I hate especially when your team plays Sunday night football and they lose because it's so draining. Because, you know, I'm a grown ass man. I'm 41 years old. So, you know, for me to be up past 11 o'clock, it's got to be a damn good reason. And if it ain't making love

to my wife, then, you know, watching a football game ain't it, especially when we lose. But raise your hand if your team won this weekend. Well, this week,

I should say. Raise your hands if your team is 3-1 and on top of their division still. Yeah, I know. I'm not talking about that. I'm not talking about that. Because you want to get everybody

to raise their damn hand. I'm just talking about that. Exactly, yeah. I'm just talking about that. What'm not talking about that. Because you want to get everybody to raise their damn hand. I'm just talking about that. I'm just talking about that. What the hell is you talking about? Shout out to them Giants that won this weekend. The Reds team won this weekend. That means anything. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. I'm just curious about what happened this weekend. Now shout out to everybody that came out to Atlantic City. I did a real estate

seminar in Atlantic City. It was a two-day seminar. The first day was a ride along where we rode through some of the neighborhoods of Atlantic City, showed the people the homes, and then we had a mixer where people could actually talk to different agents, lendings, attorneys, and then the next day we had a seminar where we broke everything down. Had an amazing response. There was some hiccups, but we got over the hiccups, and it was pretty cool.

It was a great, great turnout. Our producer, Eddie, actually went. Eddie, what did you think, Eddie? It was great. That's real great. What else is he going to say? Because all your seminars suck. You think he's going to say that?

I guess you're right. Come on, man. I guess you're right. Jesus Christ. And then also, in between all of that, I had to fly to Atlanta. Shout out to Jermaine Dupri. Shout out to Remy Martin. They do their Remy Martin producer series.

So I was hosting that, and then it was J.D.'s birthday, so I wanted to pop in for J.D.'s birthday. If you don't know, J.D. got me my start in the music industry as somebody working at a label. He hired me the first time to be. I was running a little bit of everything, a little A&R-ing, a little of this, a little of that, and just wanted to show him some love, give him the flowers while he's still here. So happy birthday to JD.

Yeah, salute to JD. I don't even remember, bro. Cowboys lost, though. I watched football yesterday. I watched boxing on Saturday, Earl Spence, Sean Porter. Great match. I don't even remember in the weekend. It's all a blur.

I'm a father, man. I like being at home with the kids. Okay. Ask me what my kids did this weekend, I can tell you. What'd your kids do this weekend? I don't remember. I don't remember in detail. What did they do this weekend?

And shout out to Logan. Logan's team won this weekend, too, man. So congratulations to him. I think he caught over 45 yards or over 50 yards. No touchdowns this week, but they still won. So congratulations to him and his team. You know what I did do? I caught up on a lot of podcasts this weekend.

I really enjoy T.I.'s Expeditiously podcast. Okay. The two-part series with Killer Mike is amazing. You should really listen to part two of the Atlanta way because they just laid down a blueprint that so many people could replicate in cities all across America. By people, I mean black people. Amanda Seals' podcast, Small Doses, the one on cancel

culture is incredible. And T.I. and Alex Jones, great conversation. Okay. Great conversation. Because Alex Jones is a conspiracy theorist. If you've ever read like Behold the Pale Horse, you know, and it's just interesting to hear him and T.I. having a conversation.

Because we all live in this era where everybody wants to be around people who think like them. Right. And it's just like this echo chamber, so nobody really learns anything. Correct. You know, and I like to see two people who have two different thought processes dialoguing with each other. So that was good.

So that's what I did. Okay. Well, let's get the show cracking now. Forrest Whitaker will be joining us. Yes. We'll talk to Forrest Whitaker. Of course, actor. Godfather Harlem came out.

Producer. Came on last night, right? Director, yeah, came on last night. And also, Attorney General Eric Holder. Who's been here before. He has. You know? Yes.

He's back. Yep, so we'll kick it over for this morning. Talk about this new initiative that he's doing. Mm-hmm. To stop gerrymandering. Yep, so don't move. I'm Paige, and this is Nexus, The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

People got to stop saying stuff like that. Say what? If you was sick all weekend and you had unprotected sex on Thursday, you know why you was sick all weekend. Who said that at all? Don't worry about it, okay? You just keep it moving. All right. Let's get in some front page news.

Now, in NFL, the Titans beat the Falcons 24-10. The Browns beat the Ravens 40-25. The Patriots beat the Bills 16-10. Kansas City Chiefs beat the Lions 34-30. The Panthers beat the Texans 16-10. Raiders beat the Colts 31-24. The Chargers beat the Dolphins 30-10. My Giants beat the Redskins 24-3.

Blew them out. Seahawks beat the Cardinals 27-10. Tampa Bay beat the Rams 55-44. The Bears beat the Vikings 16-6. The Jaguars beat the Broncos 26-24. And the Saints washed the Cowboys. No, they didn't. Knock it off. 12-10. Does 12-10 sound like a wash to you?

Nah, I gotta make it sound good, though. It was a trash-ass game. It was a horrible game, by the way. Cowboys played terrible. I wasn't mad at it. Now, tonight, Monday Night Football! The Steelers take on the Cincinnati Bengals. Now, in boxing, Errol Spence, who's been up here a couple times, I believe, beat up Sean Porter.

Sean Porter's been up here, too. He didn't beat him. It was a great fight. It was a great up here too. It was a great fight. It was a great fight. One of the best fights I've seen all year. I've sparred with Sean Porter before. I did three rounds with Sean Porter. It's on video if you go look it up on YouTube, but it was a great fight. Don't you laugh at that drama. Come over here and knock your beard off.

What you talking about? Over there giggling and snickering. I hope HR's listening to that. But salute to Earl Sprint and Sean Porter. Great fight. I don't think that fight took anything away from either opponent. Now, in Ohio, four prisoners overpowered some guards and escaped from an Ohio jail. They made up some makeshift weapons.

Now, the four guys, one was arrested for stolen property. Another one was for drug trafficking. The other one was failure to appear in court. I don't know why he would leave. And the last one was identity fraud. So they're looking for four individuals. They're driving a Dodge Charger Gray. I got so many questions. Why would you

escape from jail when your charges aren't even charges that's going to keep you in jail forever? Not at all. And what weapons did they make that is more stronger than guns? Well, you know, they don't have guns in jail. The officers don't have guns in jail, no. They don't? No.

I thought they had people on the towels and stuff with weapons and things like that. I think that's only in the movies, and that's only in certain places. Oh, I don't know. But these are small, like the guy who... Oh, it was a jail, it wasn't a prison. Right, jail. Oh. This guy failed a parent court, he should have never left.

You know what I mean? No. The guy that... Nobody on there you named should have left. Receiving stolen property, he shouldn't have left. Traff what I mean? No. The guy that was receiving stolen property, he shouldn't have left. Trafficking drugs, it depends what type of drugs it was. And it depends how many times he's gotten caught trafficking drugs. Yeah, it depends.

Then, um, identity fraud, hmm, depends how much it was. No, that's not going to keep you in jail forever. Yeah, you're right. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. Now, Donald Trump, he wants to meet with the whistleblower. He says he wants to meet, he deserves to meet with his accuser, especially when this accuser, the so-called whistleblower,

represented a perfect conversation with a foreign leader in a totally inaccurate and fraudulent way. Trump doesn't know how any of this works, does he? No, he doesn't. He absolutely positively doesn't. He says the whistleblower will appear before the House panel now. Trump had this to say. What's going on now is the single greatest scam in the history of American politics.

The Democrats want to take away your guns. They want to take away your health care. They want to take away everything. We can never let this happen. We're fighting to drain the swamp, and that's exactly what I'm doing. And you see why we have to do it. Because our country is at stake like never before. They're trying to stop me because I'm fighting for you.

And I'll never let that happen. And his followers who, you know, follow him and who voted for him and who support him, they believe that nonsense that he's spewing right now. Absolutely. The president is a criminal. And he's been a criminal. And he finally got caught. Because that's what happens when you keep your hand in the cookie jar a little too long. He probably wants to meet with the whistleblower so he can try to pass the whistleblower a brown paper bag full of some money.

Maybe. You know, to change his story. Maybe, maybe. Probably, that's what that is. But, you know, it's too late. The transcript is out. We saw what happened. All right.

Well, that is front page news. Now, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you're upset, you need to vent, hit us up right now. Maybe you had a horrible weekend or maybe your weekend was great. Maybe your football team won or maybe your football team lost. But get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.

It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy.

There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe own country.

My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help!

We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes,

entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring

stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection. It was literally

that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's like grace have grace for yourself you're trying your best and you're gonna figure out the rhythm of this thing alicia keys like you've never heard her before listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts this is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. You better have the same energy.

We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Hey, what's up? This is Nikki from Miami. What's up, Nikki from Miami? What's happening in the 305 this morning? Well, it's raining. Well, not really, not no more, but it was raining earlier.

Well, get it off your chest, mama. What's up? Um, hey, I don't even have anything to say. You just wanted to call the radio station. You bored? Your man must not be picking up the phone this morning, so you needed to call somebody as you're driving into work. Alright,

well, y'all have a good day, man. You too. Lord have mercy. She forgot. Hello, who's this? Hey, this is Reality. What's up, bro? Get it off your day, man. You too. Lord have mercy. She forgot. Hello, who's this? Hey, this is Reality. What's up, bro? Get off your chest, man. What's going on? What's going on with the people? What's up with you, bro?

All right. Listen, man. I want to say something to these young brothers out here, man. Walking around with their asses out, you know. Thinking that's cool. Thinking that's a fashion statement. I mean, I understand a little sad. That's cool. Thinking that's a fashion statement. When, I mean, I understand a little sad. That's cool.

You want to show the designer underwears or whatever. But when you got your ass under the cuff of your ass, where your ass is basically at. It's out of line, bro. It's out of line. It's disgusting. And it's like, I've come up in the other way, you know. It was a jail thing.

Because they wouldn't let us have no sex. But now these brothers in the streets are f***ed to a whole nother level on some borderline gay stuff. Not knowing that, not seeing that that thing look really, really f***ing smoke, bro. Let me, I'm going to tell you something, you know, other than you talking about all the gay stuff, you're right. I don't like seeing young men sag their pants,

but I just got to look at it from both sides. There's a man out there right now saying you block it. There's some men out there who like seeing that ass all out, and you hating. Are you mad when you see women walking around half naked? Big bro, big bro, big bro. I understand that. Their preference is their preference.

I'm just talking about it's not a good look, bro, because it's like, all right. Bro. People view you on how you dress and the first thing you say. Am I correct? I agree with you that men should not be sagging their pants. I think it is the wackest thing in the world. But, yo, it's some dudes out there that think you hating right now. Some dudes like to see dudes with their ass out.

And you could be hating. Trav, what up, Trav? Yo, what's up, Envy? Trav, you love a good sag, right? Whoa. I love a good what? You love when guys sag their pants, right? Uh, no. I hate when, I hate when s***s sag their pants. Really? That's what's gonna turn off to me. You don't like

seeing all that ass out? I'd rather see you in a nice pair of fitted jeans, you know, that's hugging around the right area. Oh, got you, got you, got you. Okay, got you, got you. All right. Why are you calling me?

You know your cat was lost. Where's she at? She's in Chicago. She's working. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I want to talk about haters this morning. Sean, can we talk about haters this morning? Do your thing, my brother.

I want to talk about haters. The most delusional fan base in the world. The Eagles have been texting me and bothering me all morning because we lose one game and they think that's going to stop us from going to the bowl, Char. Listen, it's one game. It's the NFL. Now, granted, it's a game we should have won.

We should have not lost to Teddy Bridgewater and the New Orleans Saints last night, you know, but it was in New Orleans. No, we shouldn't. I ain't tripping too hard. It's last night. You know, but it was in New Orleans. No, he shouldn't. I ain't tripping too hard. It's a game. But listen, Char, man, I want to talk to you real quick. Right quick, Charlamagne.

I'm sorry to you, bro. Talk to me. Last week, Rakim was on there, right? Yep. First of all, I want to close bonds for Rakim. He started following me on Instagram randomly. I don't know why. He sends me mad messages on Instagram now, but go ahead. So, when he was talking about he was naming the greatest

MCs of his generation and the first person he named was Kendrick Lamar. Yep. And Chalamet was quick to say, super lyricist. Yep. And then he named a second person. J. Cole. J. Cole. And I said lyricist. You were immediately like, lyricist. And I said lyricist. You're immediately like, lyricist.

He's a lyricist. But I'm going to say it anyway. You said it. Man, knock it off. I'm tired of you. Knock it off. Goodbye. Like, who did it?

Nobody throws shit. J. Cole is a lyricist. Get it off your chest. 885-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Wake morning. The Breakfast Club.

Wake up, wake up. Wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? This is Shalonda. Hey, Shalonda. Get it off your chest.

I just wanted to call and tell y'all I love y'all. I don't ever miss a show, whether it's radio or YouTube. But, Andy, you're going to get off my cowboy stuff. Nope. They're going to get this heat for the week. You're going to get off my cowboy stuff. I don't know how many y'all are going to lose. Why y'all lose?

I got to be able to just slay y'all. That don't make any sense because we're 3-1 and we're still on top of the NFC East. It don't make no sense. You feel me? The clowns are about to be still looking up to. Y'all lost. You're going to get a touchdown. You feel me? The clown somebody you're still looking up to. Y'all lost. I didn't even get a touchdown, so get off my Cowboys.

What'd you say? I said the Saints did it with field goals. They couldn't even get a touchdown in and we get off my Cowboys. That's why that loss actually hurt a little bit

more, too, though. We lost because of four goddamn field goals. We were averaging 30 points a game all year and scored 10. Hello, who's this? This is Michelle.

Hey, Michelle, get it off your chest. Hi, I just wanted to say hi to Angelique, DJ Envy, and Charlamagne. I've been trying to get through you guys for, oh my God, a while now. And as for Trump, he's an idiot. I wish they would impeach him. I wish they would get him off the presidency because he's a crook, he's an idiot, and I can't stand it. That is actually factual. I'm not arguing with you. Well, thank you so much.

You know, you guys just make my morning. You guys are just, you know, awesome. So I just wanted to say good morning, have a blessed day, and I finally got through. Well, you have a blessed day, too. Have a happy Monday. Okay. You, too.

Hello, who's this? Hey, this is Dre. Dre, what's up? Get it off your chest, bro. Hey, man, listen. I just want to say that I thank you guys, man. Y'all make me laugh. And a couple of weeks ago, you guys just shouted me out from Better Than Philly.

And, man, it just made a difference in the world that you guys took the time to shout a little place like me out. And just gave me great motivation, man. I just thank you guys. Charlamagne Tha God. Good morning. Good morning, Envy. Good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning. Hey, I don't want to forget. I don't want to forget anybody, so I just want to say thank you. I'm a little nervous. First time

me calling and being on the radio, but I just want to thank you guys, man, a lot. And I'm supposed to come up and feed you guys, and I definitely definitely want to do that., man, a lot. And I'm supposed to come up and feed you guys. And I definitely, definitely want to do that. I got to get in touch with Eddie. Oh, this is my man with the cheesesteak spot. Cheesesteak, yeah, man.

What's the name of the spot again? Better Than Philly? Better Than Philly, yep. Better Than Philly, Wachungan in Irvington, man. Okay. I just want to thank you guys because I really am out here grinding hard, man. I do a bunch of events for the community. I've been doing it for seven years.

I just opened up a new spot in Wachung, but I want to try to do something, because I listen to you guys every day, and you guys talk about the mental health thing, man. And I'll be honest with you, I suffered through depression too, man. And I want to do something with that as far as doing like a chicken wing eating contest, the hottest wings out and who can eat the most, and just donate those proceeds, man, to a worthy cause, someplace that can do mental health things and help other people. Okay. We're going to figure it out, King.

Yeah, we're going to figure it out, man. We appreciate you checking in. Hey, MV, I actually met you a couple of times, man, but this was way back in the day at Jersey Girl Day. Okay. With Lady L. Yep, yep. I used to hang out with Frank, the suit. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, man.

So, hey, man, and Charlamagne, man, you're the dopest person, man. I know, you know, from the first day I met you, man, you were so cool, man, and I appreciate you. And I want everybody to know, man, I don't care what y'all say about Sean Lynch. I got to go through me to get to him. I appreciate you, King. Yeah, man, I appreciate you, man.

I appreciate all you got. All right, brother, have a good one. All you got. All right, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, you can hit us up at any time. When we come back, we got rumors. We got to talk about Kanye.

So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Listen up. It's just in. All the gossip. Gossip.

The rumor report. Gossip. Gossip. With Angela Yee. It's the rumor report. The Breakfast Club. Now, Kanye West was all over the place this weekend. He's releasing a new album.

I believe this week. It's called Jesus is King. I thought that he pushed it back. No, it was supposed to release on Friday, and they're saying they're trying to get it out this week. I thought he said he was going to put it out on Sunday. It was supposed to come out on Friday. It was supposed to come out on Friday.

He said he was pushing it back, and then he said it was going to drop out on Sunday. It was supposed to come out last Friday. It was past Friday, yeah. It was supposed to come out this week, they say. But we don't know. We're not sure as of yet. But Friday, he was out in Detroit,

and he played snippets of the album. People that was at the venue, they got free tickets. They said that it's a lot of gospel, sounds very gospel. He's rarely rapping on a lot of the songs. And they said it sounds pretty good. Now, Kanye also said that he's not doing any secular music anymore. It's all gospel from here on out. What exactly is secular music when people say they're not doing secular music. Can somebody from the gospel community explain to me what secular music is exactly? Because I use that term a lot, but I wonder what that actually means. Let me see.

Secular music is simply music that is not affiliated with any religious practice or tradition. So a song like Back in the Day Inspector Deck The Power of God And you Would that be considered A gospel record Because he's rapping About God No No

So I don't understand What the secular music Thing means I don't know That's a good question That is a great question Jesus Walks Would that be considered

A secular record No Kanye did that They considered that Gospel music back in the day Remember that was They played that On gospel stations

They played it On hip hop stations They played that Even on R&B stations. That went across all boards, if I remember correctly. Saturday, he was out in Chicago with Chance the Rapper playing some cuts. And then yesterday, he was out in Queens, New York, Jamaica, Queens. He went to Allen Church and shot the Pastor Floyd Flake, and he performed there. And everybody said the music sounded so great.

So let's play a clip of him freestyling in Queens. I love it. It's positive music. It's feel-good music. When God gets in you and tells you to change your life, you change your life. That freestyle would be whack anyway with the church, though. Let's be clear. You know what I'm saying? That only works in the church.

It felt good when he said it, though. When everybody got the Holy Ghost and you're just trying to get people on their feet. I see people trying to, you know, say Ye is making a mockery of God and he's trying to capitalize off religion. How? Yeah, I don't see how you can say that when one of his first records was Jesus Walks. You understand what I'm saying?

How? And not to mention people grow and people evolve and people get new spaces in their life. If he wants to make gospel music at this point in his career, I don't have a problem with that. You don't know what his plan was? No, you don't know what God's plan for him was. Absolutely. And that's the thing. It could be one of those things where God wants to

make him one of the biggest artists ever and say, you know what, now I want you to speak my word. That's usually how it works. God doesn't call the qualified. He qualifies the called. That's right. Yes. Jesus is King, the new album. It's supposed to be an album and documentary.

I can't wait to hear it. Lil Nas X looks like he's going through a little bit of stress. He cancels two shows, and he announced he's taking a little time off from music. He said the last seven months has been really rough, and he just needs some time to himself. I have no problem with him taking a break. I'm just saying, when you got one record though It's kind of tough He put out an album though, he put out an EP

Like I said, when you got one record It's kind of tough to take a break You need to get all you can now Because tomorrow is not promised Maybe that's part of it, maybe he wants to get all that he can now He's been working, he's been on the road He hasn't been able to enjoy his life You take too long of a break when you're a guy with one record

It might be it, that's all I'm saying Maybe he wants to date. Maybe he wants to start a family. Maybe he just wants to chill. Do your thing. That's a hundred million dollar record. He should have made a lot of money off that one record. I'm sure he did. I pray he did. I pray that he did not get got in any contract

situations and I pray that he made all his money off that record. That is a record that could last him a lifetime. Well, congratulations to Tushar. Tushar became a dad for the first time at age 53. For the first time. That's what they say. Tushar ain't got no kids?

No. Tushar is a proud father. He welcomed his first child at the tender age of 53. He's been keeping the news under a wrap until now. It seems like Ray J is shooting a documentary, and Tushar is part of that documentary. So congratulations to Tushar. T Too Short don't got no kids. I mean, he's been practicing protective

sex for a long, long, long, long, long time. I'm sure that he's been getting it in for years. Maybe protection, like you said. Well, that's good. I'm glad to know that brothers are still out here using condoms. You know what I'm saying? It gets hot in Oakland. Sometimes it's too hot for condoms in the summertime. He's been at some kids.

That's your rumor report. Now, Angela Yee is out. She'll be back tomorrow when we come back. Front page news. We'll tell you about your favorite president. I shouldn't say your favorite president. Your president, Donald Trump, when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hey, morning everybody. It's DJ MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get some front

page news. Let's start with NFL scores. Now, the Titans beat the Falcons 24-10. Cleveland Browns beat the Ravens 40-25. The Patriots beat the Buffalo Bills 16-10. The Chiefs beat the Lions 34-30. Panthers beat the Texans 16-10. The Raiders beat the Colts 31-24.

Chargers beat the Dolphins 30-10. The Giants beat the Redskins 24-3. Sorry all you Redskins fans out there. Seahawks beat the Cardinals 27-10. Buccaneers beat the Rams 55-40. Bears beat the Vikings 16-6. Jaguars beat the Broncos 26-24. And the Saints beat the Cowboys 12-10.

I mean, the Cowboys beat themselves, but you know, whatever. We still 3-1 on top of the NFC East. We'll be fine. Ah, boy. And Monday Night Football! The Steelers take on the Bengals tonight. Now, Errol Spence, he earned a split decision win over Sean Porter. Great fight Saturday night.

Salute to Sean Porter. His father, Kenny, salute to Errol Spence and his whole team. Neither one of those fighters lost anything, if you ask me. Great fight. That was a dog fight. Great, great matchup. Great, great matchup. But Errol is no joke. Sean ain't no joke either, but you know. Errol got the best a dog fight. Great, great matchup. Great, great matchup. But Earl is no joke.

Sean ain't no joke either, but you know. Earl got the best of him on Saturday night, which I thought he would, but it was a great fight. Now out in Ohio, Ohio jail, some four prisoners escaped. Now they escaped, they made some handmade weapons and overpowered the guards. Now these are the four individuals.

One, his name is Martin. He's 40 years old. He was in jail for receiving stolen property. Clemente, he's 24. He was in jail for trafficking drugs. Troy, he was in jail for failing to appear in court. Lawrence, he's 29. He is in jail for identity fraud. Now, I don't know why these four individuals would be running from the police

because it don't seem like these crimes are too crazy. Don't look like they would be sitting in jail too long, but I don't know why they tried to run. I don't know. It just sounds like four dark-headed days to me. And I really don't get it, especially being that none of them was going to sit in jail forever for any of those charges that they had. Now, they said they drove the car about a block away where another car was waiting for them.

They believe to be in a 2019 Dodge Charger with Ohio plates. They got picked up already. Yeah, no, no, no, no. I mean, got away. Like, they had somebody waiting for them, scooped them up and kept them moving. They got caught an hour ago. They got caught an hour ago.

Yeah, they got caught an hour ago in North Carolina. Three out of four of them got caught. Three out of four of them. All right. You know, they're either going to hold it down or they're going to 6-9 the other fourth guy. They probably don't know where he's at. That guy's probably out.

I'm sure they were all together. That one dude was just smart enough to say, you know what, I'm going to separate from y'all fools. I'm going to go right. Y'all go left. Y'all go left. I've seen set it off before. The best thing for us to do is to split up.

All right? So y'all three can stick together, you damn stooges. I'm going to go solo dolo. All right. Now, your president, Donald Trump, he wants to meet with the whistleblower. He says, I deserve to meet my accuser, especially when this accuser, the so-called whistleblower, represented a perfect conversation with a foreign leader in a totally inaccurate and fraudulent way.

What is he going to say to the accuser when he meets him? I don't know. Are you going to try to hand him a brown paper bag full of some money to try to get him to change his story? Possibly. Well, he had this to say. What's going on now is the single greatest scam in the history of American politics. The Democrats want to take away your guns. They want to take away your health care.

They want to take away everything. We can never let this happen. We're fighting to drain the swamp, and that's exactly what I'm doing. And you see why we have to do it because our country is at stake like never before. They're trying to stop me because I'm fighting for you. And I'll never let that happen. This situation is so hilarious to me because Donald Trump is acting like himself, along with his attorney, Rudy Giuliani, didn't confess to asking another country to investigate a potential presidential candidate.

They both confessed that they did this. Nobody made it up. You did it. It's illegal. Violation of his oath of office. The man has been committing crimes since he's been in the White House, and I'm just happy that people, and by people I mean Nancy Pelosi and the House Democrats, are finally acting like it.

Right. Period. All right. Well, that is your front page news. Now let's talk about this some more in depth. Eric Holder, Attorney General, will be joining us. He's been here before, by the way. I think this is his second time up here.

Yep. So we'll kick it with him when we come back. All right? So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. My body is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. Attorney General. Eric Holder. Eric Holder. Welcome, sir. What's happening, my people? Welcome back. I'm glad to see you. You started a great

group, the redistricting group, right? Yep. National Democratic Redistricting Committee. For redistricting after the 2020 Senate. It's a hard word to say. What am I saying? Redistricting. Not ridiculous. Redistricting. No king. Redistricting. Redistrink. Redistrink. What is it?

We got it. We the ndrc what does that stand for though national democratic redistricting redistricting what is that and why we wasted five minutes on that man just trying to get the name straight we got to it they'll never forget it now all right what does that mean though and what is why is that important every 10 ten years after the census, which happens every ten years, the United States goes into a period of redistricting where we draw new legislative districts for the states

and also for our congressional seats. 2011, the Republicans really went to town and gerrymandered the redistricting process so that they ended up with more seats than they deserved on the basis of the number of votes they got. And so in 2021, we want to make sure that Democrats are at the table and that we have a fair process. People are scared to fill out the census.

Yeah, people are afraid. And I understand that given what the Trump administration has done to try to create that climate of fear in the Hispanic community especially. And one of the things we have to do is encourage people to make sure that they raise their hands, that they get voted. Because to have a fair redistricting process in 2021, you've got to have a fair census in 2020. So they shouldn't be scared. Shouldn't be scared. I can understand the level of fear and the concern that people have, but the stakes are too high to simply not participate in the census. The census is the basis for determining how $900 billion in federal aid is distributed to the states

and also, again, how the redistricting is done. That is how political power is decided to be distributed over the course of the next decade. Didn't they try to make a law where you had to say, one of the questions would be, are you a legal immigrant? Right, yeah. And then that got shot down. Yeah, the question is whether or not you are a citizen. They wanted to include a citizenship question,

which hasn't been included on the long form of the census since 1950. We filed a lawsuit, the NDRC filed a lawsuit that we won, and the Trump administration ultimately backed down. And so the citizenship question will not be included on the census. Trump has access to this, if need be, though. Well, the Census Bureau will have access to the information, and it's actually typically, historically, it's really held that information and jealously guarded the information. There are protocols in place, for instance, so that the FBI doesn't get access to that information. Okay.

Now, these are the norms. We're not in the norms anymore. Well, exactly. What happens with this administration, what they'll try to do with it, you know, I have to be honest with people. You know, we'll try to do all that we can and make sure that some of those norms are are um are followed but we have to be wary you know with all this talk about the russians interfering in our elections and voter suppression and mitch mcconnell blocking an election security bill why are people people acting like election security is no big deal like why are people raising more hell about that well

i have been i've been out there you know that, this is what I've been doing since I left the Department of Justice, talking about the need for election security to make sure that people have the right to vote, that we stop voter suppression, that we make sure that people from off our shores, outside our shores, don't have an ability to influence our elections. There's a whole range of things that we need to focus on. I mean, the House passed a bill that would distribute about, I think, $250 million to the states to allow the states to get ready for what the Russians are going to try to

do. Mitch McConnell bottled up that bill until he just said, I guess, last week or so after he was called Moscow Mitch, which apparently really got to him. He's now authorized the distribution of that money. Democrats are on the case, but Republicans... Not on the debate stage. In the last few debates, Cory Booker was

the only person who even mentioned it, even remotely. Well, I don't, you know, part of the problem with assessing people's what they talk about in these debates, the questions that they get asked. You can't just bring it up out of nowhere. And one of the things, you know, we've had, I don't know, three, four debates, whatever it is,

no one's asked anybody anything about gerrymandering, about redistricting, about voting issues. That's my point. I know about the health care plans now. I got it. I know what people stand on health care. I don't need to hear that anymore. Let's talk about some other things.

You got Stacey Abrams with the Fair Fight 2020. Right. What you're doing. Right. But I just feel like it should be louder. To me, I feel like our democracy is damn near dead until we fix that. I mean, our democracy is at stake stake and people need to understand that i mean simply because we've had a democracy for 250 years or so doesn't mean it's always going to be there the russians are trying

to do things to it i would say that the republicans are trying to undermine from within um our democracy with gerrymandering voter purges um voter suppression and we've got to fight to save um our democracy. What do you say to people who are saying, oh, what's the point in voting if it's just going to be, you know, voter suppression, it's just going to be people interfering with the election process and all of that? What do you tell people who say, well, my vote doesn't matter anyway? Every vote counts. And we also have to understand that people died.

People sacrificed. People committed themselves to a struggle to allow us to have the right to vote. John Lewis got his skull cracked on the Edmund Pettus Bridge so that people would be allowed to vote. Three civil rights workers gave their lives in 1963 in Mississippi. Again, they were trying to register people to vote. We dishonor that legacy. We dishonor their work if we don't do the simple thing of voting. Now, that may mean, it may mean that we're going to have to wait in line for three, four hours in districts where there are people of color, which is unfair, shouldn't happen. But I think to make sure that that doesn't happen the next time, we have to put in place people who will really value the right to vote.

But there's a legacy. There's, you know, we have to honor the work, the commitment, the effort of people from many years ago. Do you recommend that people go vote early, too, just to kind of make sure in case there's any issues, you can smooth that out and know ahead of time? That's a really great point. I think that every we should take advantage of those early voting periods that exist in different states. Vote as early as you can to make sure that your vote gets counted. You Maybe minimize the amount of time that you're going to have to wait. But again,

Republicans have tried to decrease the number of days that are available for early voting. Republicans want to make it more difficult to vote. They think that Democrats are of the view that the more people vote, that's better for us. That's a defining issue, I think, for

the parties. We think more people ought to vote. That'll help the Democratic Party. They want to restrict the number of people. They want to pick their voters. They want to decide who should actually be allowed to vote. A lot of Democrats that come up here, they say that the reason they don't tell the truth about what's happening with the election security bill

is because they don't want to discourage voters from voting in 2020. Democrats don't want to discourage voters? Yes, they don't want to discourage voters from voting in 2020. If don't want to discourage voters? Yes, they don't want to discourage voters from voting in 2020. If we tell people, hey, there is Russian interference, of course we know it's voter suppression. Mitch McConnell blocked the election security bill. If we tell people that, it'll discourage people from voting. I think truth is always a good thing.

Let people understand what the deal is. Let people understand what they've got to overcome. I mean, the history of African Americans in this country shows that we're able to deal with truth and to overcome. So mean, the history of African-Americans in this country shows that we're able to deal with truth and to overcome. So put it out there. Tell people what's out there, what they're going to be up against. We'll deal with it. Absolutely. I mean, you think voting in 2019, 2020, 2021, you think that's difficult? Well, yeah, maybe

it might be a little inconvenient. But think about what Dr. King had to put up with, what John Lewis had to put up with. That's hard. Even when Obama won, it's because people came out in overwhelming numbers to vote. Right. And I'm sure there was suppression at that time, too. Sure. There were attempts to try to, you know, keep the countdown. But young people came out, people of color came out. You know, every presidential election is important. The election in 2020 is existential. Donald Trump cannot get another four years. He's damaged our institutions, damaged the norms that we've had. He could destroy things with another four years.

All right, we have more with Attorney General Eric Holder. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Eric Holder, Attorney General. You think he'll wind up in jail, Donald Trump?

That's interesting. I mean, I don't know. You know, I think the case that put Michael Cohen in jail, he has been named as an unindicted co-conspirator, and so clearly he could be charged once he's out of office. He would no longer have the ability to say, you know, a sitting president can't be indicted. The question then ultimately would be whether or not the next attorney general, the next president, would make a decision that he should, in fact, be prosecuted.

You know, Gerald Ford made the decision that Nixon should not be and granted him a pardon. I think that same issue, that same question would confront, you know, the next president. Should he be in jail? Yeah, would you like that? You know, I think. Come on, Eric, don't be scared. No, know, the next president. Should he be in jail? Yeah, would you like that? You know, I think... Come on, Eric, don't be scared. No, no, I'm not. No, I'm saying reflexively, you know, emotionally I'd say yes,

but I have to think about what's the impact on the country, you know? What would we do by putting Donald Trump on trial, potentially putting him in jail? Would that have a negative impact on just the nation that needs to heal after he's out of office? Since when does this country care about what happens to criminals?

Well, you know, the nation should care about the impact of our criminal justice system on individuals and what it does to them, also what the criminal justice system has done to communities of color, you know, for instance. So I think it's a legitimate concern to figure out what is the impact of a particular prosecution or prosecution policy is going to be on individual communities and on the nation as a whole. Let me ask you a question. Out of all Trump's impeachable offenses, which one could President Obama have gotten away with? None. Exactly.

They'd be trying to prosecute him. They wouldn't put him in jail for wearing a tan suit. So why are we having any empathy for Donald Trump? Exactly. They'd be trying to prosecute him. They wouldn't put him in jail for wearing a tan suit. That's what I'm saying. So why are we having any empathy for Donald Trump? If Donald Trump wasn't the president and he was just a regular citizen, would he be going to jail? Forget if he's a regular citizen. If you said that Obama was about to go to jail for a tan suit. I was only kidding. I know you're joking, but I'm saying it.

But you said he couldn't get away with none of those offenses. I don't think there's a federal statute that says you can't wear a tan suit. I know, but you know he couldn't have gotten away with any of those offenses. No, no. Well, he couldn't have gotten away with it. They certainly would have held hearings and all that stuff, whether they ultimately would have prosecuted him. You know, again, I don't know.

I don't know. It's a tough question. Again, as I said, reflexively, instinctively, I'd say, yeah, you know. Put him under the jail. Yeah, given all the stuff that he's done. But I think, you know, at some point, some policymaker, some decision makers are going to have to step back and say, do we really want to do we really want to do this? I mean, he should be held accountable. You know, and that's that I'm always a person who says that there's, you know, individuals should be held accountable for their their actions. And he certainly ought to be held accountable for all that he has, all that he's done.

What did you think when you heard when you read the transcript between Donald Trump and the Ukrainian president? It was disturbing. The notion that the president would reach out to a foreign leader and ask for information, help in getting information on somebody who is a potential political rival. Again, inconsistent with what we do in the United States. Breaks norms at a minimum, potentially breaks statutes, you know, at its worst. And so it was it's very disturbing.

Now, it's interesting. It'll be interesting to see how that investigation proceeds, who ultimately is involved in it. Now, do you think Donald Trump will be reelected? No, I really don't think that he will be. I think that I think it's going to be a fight. I mean, I think, you know, he... I'm not a poker guy, but what's the thing? He do a straight... I'm not a poker guy.

There was some description about he did something in poker that's almost impossible to do, which is to win by winning in three states, 77,000 votes. Didn't win the electoral college. I will guarantee this. The Democratic nominee for president will get more of the popular vote than Donald Trump. Hillary did that, too.

Right. The only way he wins is to win in the Electoral College. And I don't say it's a guarantee that we'll win the Electoral College, but I think I'm pretty certain that we will. I don't think that the American people, we're going to have an energized Democratic base. You know, I think young people, people of color, the Obama coalition, I think, will reassert itself.

I think the majority of the American people will reject that which Trump has stood for by then these past four years. Do you think Joe Biden is the best bet for Democrats in 2020? I think we've got a bunch of good candidates. I think he'd be good. I think other people who are running would be good. I like Kamala. I like good. I think, you know, other people who are running would be good.

Like who? Well, I like Kamala. I like Corey. I like Amy. I like all of them. You know, I think any one of these Democrats is better than Trump. Of that, there's no question. And I like their programs.

I think they'll be more honorable. They'll be people of integrity in a way that he has not been. That's not saying much when the bar is Donald Trump, though. No, I think, again, we'll get back to norms. We'll have presidents. We'll have a new president who would conduct himself or herself in the way that we'd expect presidents to do. The way Barack Obama did. Do you think it's time to get rid of the electoral college?

Absolutely. There's no reason to have an electoral college. I mean, we're the only industrialized nation, the only advanced democracy that elects people in that way. The vote ought to be simply who gets the greatest number of votes, not like who has the number, who wins the greatest number of states. Why isn't that really something that people are pushing for? Because I feel like that should be a big deal, especially considering the last election. Well, people actually are. There's this thing called, you have to amend the constitution if you wanted to do it that way. But there's also this effort called the Interstate Compact to do away with it. So what would happen is that the states would cast their electoral votes not for who won the state,

but who had the greatest number of national popular votes. And in that way, you would ultimately do away with the Electoral College. And I think so far you've got states that total about 196 electoral votes. You need to get states that total 270 votes, and then the electoral college would still be there. It would no longer be in effect. Let me ask you a question about some of these candidates. Why should black people trust Joe Biden?

And the reason I say that is because, you know, you look at the 88 crack laws and the 94 crime bill, and you listen to the things he said about Barack Obama being the first mainstream African-American that's bright, articulate and clean. Why should we trust him other than the fact he was Obama's vice president for ages? Well, I mean, there are things that he's got to certainly explain in his record,

but I think you've got to look at the entirety of his career and make a determination about whether or not you think that he would be a president who would have the backs of communities of color. I tend to think that he would. I've known Joe Biden for 20 years or so.

I served with him when he was vice president. And I think that in spite of all the things that you've talked about, which, again, are legitimate concerns and things he has to explain, I think that he would be a person committed to civil rights and committed to the interests of people in the African-American community, Hispanic community, in a way that, you know, the president he served with, in the way that Barack Obama was. He won't even admit that the 94 Crime Bill was wrong, though, that it caused mass incarceration. Well, I'd say the 94 Crime Bill didn't cause mass incarceration. It certainly, there's an argument you can make that it certainly accelerated it because

it had those provisions that helped states build prisons. There also were some good preventive measures in the 1994 crime bill that people, I think, too often don't talk about. But I think as a society, you know, we were in a different place in 1994 where crime was a top three issue. We reacted wrongly to the way in which we should deal with crime. We didn't focus enough on the things that caused people to be involved in crime. We didn't come up with enough measures to help people get rehabilitated once they were in the system. Didn't make opportunities available to people

once they were leaving the system. We've learned a lot from that. So I don't think that, you know, he should certainly be questioned about it, but I don't think we should put on him, you know, the Black Caucus stood for a lot of the things that are contained in the 94 crime bill. The nation was in a different place at that time, and we have to make up for what we did back then.

You know, I always think about the fact that we had a crack epidemic back in the 90s, and we used the criminal justice system as a way to deal with that. Now we're dealing with the opioid crisis, and everybody says it's a public health problem. And that's what we should have been doing back in the 90s. All right, we got more with Eric Holder when we come back. Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

E.J. Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Eric Holder, Attorney General. Yee. Did you face a lot of racism being the first black person in your position as Attorney General? I certainly faced a lot of, you know, political heat certainly faced a lot of political heat, took a lot of political heat. I was wondering in the back of my mind how much of that was

a function of race and how much of it was just that I was this kind of loud mouth guy from New York. The vehemence with which people opposed Barack Obama and Eric Holder, I still try to wrestle with it.

How much of that was race? How much of that was just politics? They saw in him change. They also saw in him, I think, the future. And he's very disconcerting to think that, you know, this guy represents what America is about to become. And it means that we are not going to have power in the way that we did. So I'm not sure. I'm not sure how much it was racially based and how much it was simply.

You can feel it. It definitely was a lot of race based. Oh, yeah. Now, there's, you know, there are certain incidents. I mean, when I was at in, I guess, listening to Barack, I guess it was a State of the Union address. And that guy stood up and said, you know, you lie. Let's go back to that audio real quick. The reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegal.

It's not true. If he were a white man giving a State of the Union address, would a congressman have the guts to stand up and say you lie? Absolutely not. At some level, at some level, that guy, that guy had, you know, I don't know, was subconscious, unconscious, whatever. There was a racial thing going on there, and that man's behind. Let's talk Eric Garner a little bit. Yeah. RIP to him, and the officer who killed him was Daniel Pantaleo.

He was fired. Pantaleo. He was fired but not prosecuted, and I was told that you told the family you wouldn't let the case go to the next administration. Is that true? Yeah, I mean, the case was really at the beginning stages when I was attorney general, and I think it's disheartening to me to see the way in which that case played out. It took too long to resolve. It should have been resolved during the Obama years, I think.

I think the Civil Rights Division clearly wanted to prosecute that case. I think the prosecutors up here in Brooklyn perhaps didn't want to proceed. Seemed to me that there was a basis for that case to proceed. Civil rights attorneys should have been allowed to prosecute the case. That's one of the places that I think that this administration and Barr made a wrong determination. I mean, everybody saw the tape, you know, and at a minimum, a jury should have had the ability to consider all the evidence and make a determination as to whether or not Pantaleo should have been held criminally responsible. There was nothing y'all could have done? Well, when I was there as AG, I mean, the case just wasn't formed. It wasn't at a place where

we could make a decision. I think, you know, as I said, just to be frank, I think it could have been resolved during the Obama years, I think. But. I think, you know, as I said, just to be frank, I think it could have been resolved during the Obama years. I think but for whatever reason, you know, it was not. Should have been. Did you feel like y'all fell asleep at the wheel because y'all thought Hillary was going to be the next president? So you thought, okay, if we don't handle it, then the next administration

will. But you didn't think the next administration would be this administration? I don't know. You know, I don't know exactly what happened within the Justice Department and why a decision wasn't made. But I think there was certainly sufficient amounts of time for a decision to be made. It shouldn't have been left for the next administration. Do you think up until this point, Nancy Pelosi and the House Dems have been being cowardly when it comes to Donald Trump?

No, I don't think so. I think that, you know, one of the things I would have talked about if I'd run is that we've got to be prepared to fight. You know, this is not a time, if he's going to break norms, and he has, this is not a time to think that we can fight back in a normal way. We've got to be prepared to be tough, to fight, to bring some New York to this campaign. What part of New York?

What part of New York? Because he's from New York, too, so he's ready to fight back. Yeah. What part of New York? I'm from East Elmhurst. Brooklyn, New York? Is it? Hey.

Harlem, New York? What part of New York is not tough? I mean, think about it. Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, you know? Staten Island, I don't know about that, but, you know, all right. Hey, hey, Wu-Tangs for Staten Island. Exactly. I sometimes think that's more New Jersey, but that's all right.

That's fine. We'll let them hang. We'll let them hang. Does it bother you when you have a Google your name and the other Eric Holder comes up that murdered Nipsey Hussle? Does that bother the ish out of you? Yeah. I remember the night that happened, my daughter sent me a text and said, wow, did you see who killed Nipsey Hussle? He's got the ish out of you? Yeah. I remember the night that happened, my daughter sent me a text and said, wow, did you see who killed Nipsey Hussle?

He's got your name. And I thought she was kidding. Mm-hmm. You know, and I woke up the next day. That sucks. And now, yeah, I Googled my name, and so, all right, that's, it's the other Eric Holder. It's the other guy. You know, I liked Nipsey. He's not even another Eric Holder.

He just, like, he's just something else. You've got to say the other Eric Holder. All right, yeah. It's just a guy with a name who happened to be Eric Holder. Yeah, it's unfortunate because Nipsey seemed to be a guy who was on the verge of, I think he was already in the middle of doing some really positive things

and we need people like that. We're looking now at the 25th anniversary of Ready to Die and I think about Biggie and as good as he was the future that was denied him as a result of violence. Same thing with Tupac.

Now Nipsey, Nipsey. It's sad. It's kind of sad to think about that. Do you follow everything that's going on in hip-hop? You just couldn't talk about no West Coast rappers without mentioning Biggie, huh? You just had to bring in an East Coast rapper. It's the 25th anniversary. I said Biggie first before I talked about Tupac.

That's right. Now, do you follow everything that's going on? I give respect to the West Coast guys, though. I like Dre. I like those guys. You see what's happening with Tekashi69 and him on the stand? Yeah. What do you think about that?

What do you think about snitching? I'm just curious, Eric. Remember, I'm a prosecutor. So he encourages it. You all call it snitching. I call it a person's cooperating witness. I call it help. I call it thank you.

I mean, if the guy is trying to cut a deal to lessen the amount of time he's going to spend in jail and is going to hold people responsible for doing things that were antisocial and harm people, I think that's what happens. You know what side you're on, Eric Holder. Do you think he'll get jail time? More jail time, I should say, or do you think he'll get time served for as much he was talking? I don't know. I mean, you know, he'll get less jail

time, I think, than he otherwise would have. Maybe he'll end up in the witness protection program. He said he's not doing that. What is that, though? Do they really, like, move you to Wyoming? They move you to places, give you a new name, give you all kinds of, you it's only like two years, right? And then...

I can't talk about it an awful lot, but I mean, the amount of time you spend there can be substantially greater than two years. Okay, I read a whole... You know, you get a job. Because he can't work with the big 6'9 on his forehead. He can get that removed. Yeah, you know, tattoo removed. I got all mine taken off. Did you?

I had a Mike Tyson thing, you know? It's gone now. You don't see nothing. So they can change your whole identity and image and everything? Not about your image, but they can certainly give you, you know, new birth certificate, new social security number, all kinds of stuff. And then do you have to still pay? He looks like he's like, hey, I'm thinking about you.

If you owe money, do you still have to pay? If you have debt, do you still have to pay that money with the new Social Security number? Well, yeah, there has been that issue. I mean, you know, if you owe somebody $10,000 and then suddenly, poof, you know, you're gone. It's too bad. What does that person do? That's a good way to get out of student loan debt. Or student loan forgiveness program.

That's a talk now. All you students out there, join the Witness Protection Program. This is the Eric Holder Student Relief Program. Join the Witness Protection Program. Everybody's talking about canceling student debt. I got a new way of doing it. Join the Witness Protection Program. There we go.

There we go. My final question. How does this Donald Trump saga end? I think it ends with his defeat in 2020 or his impeachment and conviction. I don't take off the table the possibility of a conviction. I certainly think he's going to be impeached. I think that's certainly going to happen. History will be very unkind to this presidency. Yeah, his legacy is over. Disgrace. It will be seen as a corrupt administration that, you know, really strained the alliances that we've had with our closest neighbors, with allies we've had since World War II.

He's favored the special interests over the people. He's put our climate at risk. He's divided the nation. He's played race for political gain. History is not going to be kind to Donald Trump. It's going to make for a great movie. Tell President Obama to buy the rights to it with his Netflix deal. There we go. Well, Eric

Holder, we appreciate you for joining us. Boy, it's good to be here with y'all. Thank you so much. It's Eric Holder. Get out and vote. That's right. Get out and vote. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ, MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Charlamagne Tha God.

What? This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee. Who my head is? Who my head is? On The Breakfast Club. So listen up. Now, last week we reported a story about Nick Cannon doing a talk show, and Charlamagne had this to say.

I just said I don't think that he's going to stick around and do morning radio if he gets a daytime talk show. All right. Well, Nick Cannon responded to this. I have to defend him because he's just doing what he's supposed to do. He's playing the position of being skeptical, seeing both sides of it. And everyone knows that, you know, I do a lot of things, but I'm here to prove everybody wrong.

I love radio. I love this morning show, and I'm not going anywhere regardless of what jobs that I get because you guys are my family. When he says it's a bad idea, I don't know what he's referring to, but I think what he's trying to say is that I'm spread thin. Watch how I move.

I ain't got to talk about it. I don't make announcements. I just make moves. I actually said this is why you don't hire Nick Cannon to do morning radio, but I'm not a hater. I think Nick's people in there. Nick might have said I was a hater. Did we just play that? Well, on his Instagram, he said that you are his hater friends.

He said, how many of us have them? New term, should we call hater friends hatred friends, he says, or freighters, which is friendly haters. He said, Charlemagne and many others in my life that I love and deal with daily all constantly fuel me for greatness. I just want to say thank you and hold my beer. Well, first of all, Lennard McKelvey

a.k.a. Charlemagne the God is far from a hater. I root for my folks, especially black men in media, but I'm also a realist, okay? So to be clear, all I'm simply saying is I don't think Nick Cannon is going to stick around and do morning radio. We've seen the good brother Nick Cannon have his own morning show before. Nick used to do mornings on 92.3 Now here in New York back in 2010. He did that for like two years. Yeah, when we started, he was on radio when we started.

Yeah, so he did that from like 2010 to 2012. So it's no hate. When I say Nick not going to stick around and do more than radio, it's just based off his history in radio. I just don't think he is. I just tell you, I think Nick's just going to go with the check. Wherever the check goes, I think that's where Nick's going to go. But his co-host was like, well, why defend Charlemagne?

Why are you defending him if he's so busy bashing on you? It doesn't make any sense. I'm used to it. He's not bashing. Everybody has those type of friends that are always like, ah, you think you shining. Oh, you balling now? Oh, you got a nice little car.

They put little in front of everything. Oh, I like your new little car. Oh, you got a new little job. Charlamagne's that friend. Now, Charlamagne has been ishing on Nick Cannon every time. Every time Nick Cannon puts out a record, you ishing. I want you to stop for one second and think about what you just said. That is not bashing,

nor is it hate. Only thing I've ever spoken on when it comes to Nick Cannon, I guess in a negative fashion, is when he raps. That is true. Now, raise your hand if you like Nick Cannon's raps in this room. Okay, Dramos is the only person. Alright, out of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 people.

So, is everybody who didn't raise their hand hating? No, but I did like one song. No, you didn't. I did. What song? We're going to play it right now. We're going to play that. Is it there?

Please let it be in there. Please let it be in there. It's not there. Damn it, man. This is a very terrible produced show. I just want you to know. I mean, we should have had it up, but hey, I can't call it. Terribly produced show. Nick Cannon Morning Show has better producing. I'm going to throw i can't call it terribly produced and they can't in the morning show has better producers yeah i want

to throw that out yeah right it was a gigolo i like gigolo you like gigolo we all like gigolo it's not even in the system why are you calling for stuff that's not there maybe it's envy's fault maybe if you'd have told the producers they'd have had they would have had the show this is not this is not my my thing i don't do the room you have to tell the producers what you want envy all right now charlamagne also spoke to kevin love about mental health and this is how this conversation went the opposite of happiness is hopelessness hopelessness is like the say like at the root of anxiety and mental illness depression this is not an overstatement chronic anxiety

is a crisis of hope it is the fear of a failed futureonic anxiety is a crisis of hope. It is the fear of a failed future. Whereas depression is a crisis of hope because it is the belief in a meaningless future. A lot of that sentiment came from a book titled Everything is F***. That was at 92Y last week. Right. Great conversation about mental health. He also speaks about happiness. I felt like I had no real hope in my future. I had blinders on. Sometimes when you're in it like that, you just don't feel it. You don't see it until somebody has to smack you across the head and say,

hey, listen, everybody's seeing this. I happen to read a cheap novel myself, so I always wear it. But that's kind of what I'm getting at is ever since I was young, it's been like a weighted vest. I can even feel it now. I wake up every single day and make a choice that I'm going to change the relationship that I have with, you know, mental illness and depression and anxiety and so on and so forth.

Dropping the clues bombs for my guy, Kevin Love. That's my guy, man. Did he ever get down to the root of it or why he feels that way when he wakes up? His anxiety? Yeah. And him not being necessarily happy and sometimes depressed? I think he's figuring it out now. You know, it's a process.

You know, I think that anxiety is like anything else in life. You know what I'm saying? I don't know if you actually ever figure out what it is. I think you might know your triggers. You know what I'm saying? Now, you mentioned the other day that sometimes you're depressed. What makes you depressed? This show.

Jazz, let me ask you a question. This show. Do you like Nick Cannon as a rapper? One simple question that mic is on jazz you like Nick Cannon as a rapper I do not like Nick Cannon as a rapper, but he's great at everything else. He's an amazing actor Absolutely, I just want throw that out there. But he's great at everything else. He's an amazing actor. Absolutely. He's an amazing businessman. Absolutely. Yep.

I just want to throw that out there. So that's not hate. You didn't like Gigolo? No. No. No. You liked Gigolo. No, I did not.

Okay, forget y'all. I love Nick Cannon as a person and a businessman, not as a rapper. All right, well, that is your rumor report. And that's not hate. All right, Charlamagne. That's not bashing him since day one. Leonard. Yes. Who are you giving that donkey to?

Four after the owl. I would like to give donkey of the day to the four people who decided to escape from our Ohio jail. Because I don't know what the hell they wanted to escape for, but we'll talk about it. All right, we'll get into that next Keep It Locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired?

Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel.

I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tried my country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory.

I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go.

Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise

once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all.

It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection.

It was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself.

You're trying your best and you're gonna figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm gonna be a donkey because right now you want some real donkeys. It's time for donkey of the day. So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey, right now you want some real donkey stuff. It's time for Donkey of the Day. So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey, man, hit me with the heel. Did she get donkey in the name, please tell me. I have become donkey of the day. At the breakfast club, bitches.

You're a donkey. Yes. Donkey of the Day for Monday, September 30th goes to four North Carolina men named Lawrence Lee, Troy McDaniel, Christopher Clemente, and Brian Martin. Now, these guys were all locked up in an Ohio jail. No, they're not North Carolina men. I guess they're from Ohio. I'm bugging.

Yes. But, yeah, they were all locked up in an Ohio jail. And they escaped from that jail Sunday morning after overpowering two female guards with a homemade knife. I don't know why they let the police officers in this jail have weapons that aren't as strong as homemade knives, but whatever. Now, why did these guys escape jail? If you are escaping

jail, then you must be facing life sentences or the death penalty, right? To take that kind of chance, that kind of risk, to add more charges to your docket, to face more jail time for attempting to escape, then you must be charged for crimes that are going to put you under the jail forever, right? Wrong. Okay, Lee

was being held on a charge of identity fraud, Clemente on a charge of aiding and abetting another and committing a crime, and Martin on charges of failure to appear and escape. It's unclear what McDaniel was being held on. Now, let's break this down. Ohio identity theft law characterizes the crime as a

felony punishable by 1 to 11 years in prison. Nothing, nothing not doable. Third degree felony, nine months, 10 years in prison and a $10,000 fine for fraud resulting in $7,500 to $150,000 in losses. Aiding and abetting a charge of accessory after the fact is punishable as follows. Up to a $5,000 fine and are up to one year in jail. If you are convicted of a misdemeanor up to three years in jail, if you are convicted of a felony for failure to appear in court, the penalty is a fine of up to $10,000 in three years in county jail. Failure to appear may also be considered contempt of court, which similar to a criminal conviction can result in both fines and jail time. None of these consequences for said crime sound escape from jail worthy.

All right? In fact, assaulting a police officer with a homemade knife and escaping from jail will probably land you more time than any of those crimes you committed, but no need for anyone to worry because they have already been caught. Let's go to WRC NBC4 for the report to hear what happened. Police took three of the suspects into custody at a hotel outside of Raleigh. Around two this morning, investigators found the fugitives in the parking lot, and three there surrendered peacefully.

Now, the suspects who escaped are 30-year-old Troy McDaniel Jr., 40-year-old Brynn Martin, 24-year-old Christopher Clemente, and 29-year-old Lawrence Lee III. We know that Lee is still on the run this morning. We're working to confirm all of the people who have been apprehended. Now, the sheriff's office says the four inmates all escaped Sunday morning from the Gallia County Jail, and they likely had help from at least one person on the outside. Now, the men overpowered two female corrections officers with a homemade weapon, and then stole one of the officer's car keys and drove it about a block where another car was

waiting for them. Now, the sheriff says that the jail cells there don't lock to make more room for inmates. He also acknowledges that it desperately needs some improvements. Now, the U.S. Marshal's office is offering $2,500 per inmate for information leading to the arrest, and we still know that Lawrence Lee III is still on the run this morning. So you concoct this whole plan to escape from jail only to get caught in a red roof and in North Carolina. Not to mention only one of y'all had the bright idea to separate from the pack. First thing you should do in situations like this is split up. But no, you three wanted to go to the red roof and in North Carolina with each other to have big fun. Now, if there were no women with

y'all in this red roof and whatever you were doing in that hotel, you could have been doing in jail. Okay? I've stayed at a red roof inn before. I've also been to jail. Not much difference, other than the whole freedom thing. All right? The moral of this story is

Law 29 and the 48 Laws of Power. Plan all the way to the end. The ending is everything. Plan all the way to it. Taking into account all the possible consequences, obstacles, and twists of fortune. By planning to the end,

you will not be overwhelmed by circumstances, and you will know when to stop to the end, you will not be overwhelmed by circumstances, and you will know when to stop. These four guys who escaped from this jail in Ohio should have stopped at, hey, bro, let's plan a way to escape this joint. Please give Lawrence Lee, Troy McDaniel, Christopher Clemente, and Brian Martin the sweet sounds of the Hamiltons. Oh, now you are the donkey of the day.

You are the donkey of the day. Yee-haw. All right. I guess now is a good time to play a little quick game of Guess What Race It Is. All right. Four guys escaped from an Ohio jail. Farthest they got was North Carolina. Red roof in.

Not a stitch of vagina in sight. DJ Envy, guess what race it is? Hmm. It's a tough one. Really? Yeah, I don't think they were all the same race. I mean, I think Martin was white, Clemente was Latino, Troy was black, and Lawrence was white.

Really? Yeah, that's what I think. Steven, the white demon, you want to get in on this? Four guys escaped from an Ohio jail. The farthest they'd get was North Carolina. Red roof and not a stitch of a giant inside. And they had a guitar. You didn't say they had the guitar part.

No, they didn't have a guitar. I know the answer you're wanting me to say here. No, I'm not. I want you to tell me what's on your heart. Um. Yeah. That's a lot of white collar crime there, but that drug trafficking one's definitely a Latino. That's what I said.

That was Clemente. Adios, mio. Receiving stolen property. That could be black or white. Clemente. Latino. Troy. Failing to appear. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't know what they are now. I thought all of them was white.

But y'all got me thinking the Clemente might be Latino for real. Yeah. You ever heard of a white person named Clemente? Put their picture up, Revolt. I don't know. Let's see. White, white, white. I can't tell. The second one looked Latino. It's a white Latino. Yeah, yeah,

yeah. That's Clemente, man. He got his hair in a ponytail. See? That's Clemente, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See? Alright. Okay, we're just going to chalk this up to caucasity, yeah. That's Clemente, man. He got his hand in a ponytail. See, that's Clemente, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See? All right. Okay, we're just going to chalk this up to caucasity, though. We're not going to drag the Latinos into this one.

All right. All right. When we come back, Forrest Whitaker will be joining us. We'll kick it with Forrest Whitaker. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine.

I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia.

Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe own country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh, my God.

What is that? Bullets. Bullet holes. We need help! Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire? Join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's

lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments.

Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, sir.

Forrest Whitaker. Good to be here. Welcome. Now, are we actually talking to Forrest or is this his brother, Ken? You know, that's not really... People talking about that on the net, but really, it's two pictures of me. Oh, I feel like a goddamn idiot. I'm like, y'all look just alike, not to be twins. Wow. Catfished.

Okay. Two shams. Alright, so y'all really don't look that much alike? Not really, no. Got you. Well, moving right along. Alright. Now let's talk about Godfather of Harlem. Yeah. Now tell us about this flick. We follow Bumpy Johnson, who comes out of prison, goes back into Harlem to be able to try to reclaim

his territories. He's been in way for about 11 years. We get a chance to see him and his family. You know, it was when Ilfanesh Hedera plays my wife, and you know, just him rebuilding his life, rebuilding his structure, fighting against the Italian mob, which is done by Vincent D'Onofrio and

Chaz Palminteri and Paul Sovino. Those are the guys we're against. But I think what's interesting about it is it deals with crime and the civil rights movement because it talks about the relationship between Bumpy and Malcolm X, which I think is a little-known relationship. How did you do your homework and prepare for this movie here? I started reading stuff first just to try to understand what the time was, understand the history.

Then I started interviewing guys, too. Like, there was a couple of guys in Harlem, older guys that was working with Bumpy when they were in the mob. You know, a guy named Chisholm and Junebug. And I had some advisors. You gotta have a Junebug in the mob. And a black mob, you gotta have a Junebug. He was a great guy. He really helped me out.

And then a guy named Professor Smalls was like, he took over the mosque after Malcolm. He was like explaining to me a lot of different things. And then just trying to understand the political climate of the day. Because, you know, Adam Clayton is in there too. You know, Nigel Thatcher is amazing. I want to say Nigel Thatcher's Malcolm X is like crazy good. Giancarlo Esposito plays Adam Clayton Powell. He does an amazing, amazing job.

How do you relate to the story of Bumpy Johnson? Like you personally, when you look at that particular struggle, how do you relate to it? I can relate to like trying to excel and trying to succeed and the things that block you in your way and what you need to do. I think that when you watch the show itself,

I mean, it doesn't feel like dated because it's dealing with a lot of issues that we're having right now. It's dealing with like opiate crisis. You know what I mean? What's going on with what's happening in the community. It's dealing with a lot of like polarization of black, white or, you know, this happening in the country. It's dealing with like you'll see like as the protests go in about the human rights issues and stuff with the police, what they're doing with the community

and to the brothers in the community and profiling. So all these different things for me, I relate to it. It's immediate. It's real. You seem like such a gentle giant. How did you get into the role of a gangster? You know, I played a lot of, I played a few. Oh, yeah, I was scared. Idiot, I mean, forget it.

Yeah. I was like, I don't know. Yeah. I just, you know, you You just kind of try to figure out what motivates the person, how they behave, things that's happened in their lives and then slowly something starts to happen

and it comes alive. The character starts to come alive. What do you tap into though? You got some old trauma or something that makes you dark? I use my own stuff from my past and I use my imagination. And then something happens in the universe where you start to force all that information inside of you

and then the transformation starts to happen on its own. How do you get that shit out you, though? How do you get it out once you do it? I'm not sure you get it all out. You get parts of it stay with you as if you're living a new life again, like you're reincarnating again. Really? You remember some things.

Now you've said this phrase a certain way for a long time and then for your life you start saying the phrase a different way. You start saying something differently. What about the people around you that would be like,

enough, Dad. All right, Dad. Like, let's get out of it. You're not bumpy today. I had that when I was working on The Last King when I would talk to them from Africa

and I would be on the phone and I would be not even realizing I'm using the right thing. A dictator on the phone. They were kind of like, baby, did you go to school today? What the hell?

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Come on, dad, stop. You know what I mean? But it's better to stay in the role, though, when you're actually shooting. It's better just to always stay in that zone. Probably not to your kids. Yeah, if you're playing like certain kind of characters that require it,

every character doesn't require you to do that. You're always sort of, part of you is always sort of in that space, but you're not necessarily fully consumed. In the case of, like, The Last King or something, that was something where even when I was dreaming,

I was sort of dreaming as a person. Wow. So it was kind of 24-7. So that's probably the hardest one to get out of you. That was a tough one.

It wasn't as hard, you know, it wasn't as hard like when I did a movie a long time ago called Bird about Charlie Parker. That was harder for me,

actually. It was more, it was difficult to get the emotional feelings it was a heroin addict and i like went to like some really dark places to try to understand like how he was feeling and stay with me for a minute and you know like the other one that stayed with me for a minute too is like when you play characters with have mental health issues schizophrenia bipolar issues those kind of things are really difficult as they are in real life. But you start playing around with your neurology and your mind, and it sometimes takes a while to get it

to realign itself. Do things like Oscars matter to you? Like when you're playing a role and people are like, this is going to earn him an Oscar, do you think about those things? No, that's a mistake. You know, I think you have to figure out what you want to do and why you want to say it, how much you want to give, and that's it.

Try to do something special. Those things happen. That's a bonus of some sort. If you strive for it, a lot of times you missed the story on the way. So after you did Last King of Scotland, you didn't watch it and say, man, that might be Oscar worthy. People were saying that

when I was working on the part. Did you personally feel like that? I gotta be honest, those are not drivers for me. Awards are not drivers for me. I mean, it's easy to say, I guess. I've been fortunate. I've been acknowledged for my work. Yeah, you got one. A lot of different things.

That's not a driver for me. My thing was like, every time I play a character I get to explore the human condition and I get to understand another person and understand how they driving for me. My thing was like, you know, every time I play a character, I get to explore the human condition. I get to understand another person and understand how they connect to me. And that was what I was doing all along. I've been doing that since I started. That's the reason why I started doing it. And whenever I step aside from not doing that, then something goes wrong.

But what about when you take a step back and you look at, you just stand at that Oscar at the house and you're like, I'm a black man who won an Oscar for best actor. Like, there's not a lot of those. Oscar's so white. Yeah, I got to be honest, I really don't think about it at all. Wow. What are some stories that you feel like haven't been told yet that need to be told?

I think it should be some more films to try to make you understand issues with mental health and stuff. And how it affects us in the community and how it affects us as a people itself, you know. What do you do to stay mentally healthy? I do meditate. I do do some movement, you know, sometimes. I haven't been doing martial arts for the last couple of years. Normally I do. Now, Swizz Beatz is the musical director of the series.

Now, how did he get involved with the project? I did reach out to him and speak to him and see if he would be willing to commit to something like this. Because he said he usually doesn't do this. He said it takes too much time. Yeah, he really stepped up big time. I mean, did so many amazing songs. Put together this writing lab and had everybody together

and bringing different artists in. So this, you know, most great portions of the songs were written for the film itself. Were you there when they were all doing the songs were written for the film itself. Were you there when they were all doing the songs? I did get a chance to go up and watch a lot. I was up there quite a bit. Who did you get to check out and meet?

Rick Ross. I did see Rick. I did see Rick. You know, Buddy, Jidenna. It was great. There were some amazing artists that worked on the soundtrack. They really helped make the show. I mean, I think every week on the show, probably there's two new songs that come out that are used.

And it was important for me, like, as a producer, like, that the show got to make you be authentic and true, but that the music itself, like, that was exterior, that was surrounding it, would allow you to realize those feelings today. And that's done by the artist that Swizz was able to pull together to be able to do an amazing soundtrack. We got more with Forrest Whitaker when we come back. Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy and Angela Yee. Charlamagne, the guy we are, The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Forrest Whitaker. Charlamagne? As a director, he was talking about Waiting Next Heaven. When you look back on Scrapped, when you look back on that, how do you feel about that project? I was amazed. I loved doing it. I shot that in New York.

Most of the actors were new. It was like 90-something percent of them had never acted before. Yeah, Bokeem, Levine, Fredro Starr. Yeah. And there was a lot of busting, a lot of different artists too, the music artists that were playing different parts in the show. And that was an amazing growth time for me as an artist, to learn how to shoot that film and try to capture the power of it.

And I just said, I remember with Fredo, I was trying, he was doing the group Onyx. And so he had already had a voice that was really, you know, a rebellious voice. And so that voice became part of the system in the show itself. And it worked out really good. Was it easy coaching them as a director? Yeah, I had a great time working with them. Yeah. They were, I mean, Yo-Yo and everybody else.

So many different people that were working on that. And Jam Master J was working on the music for me and stuff. You're like a hip-hop head. I don't know. I feel too embarrassed to say that in front of you guys. Wow. It's your territory. What's your favorite hip-hop group of all time?

Of all time? I guess Tupac did some really great stuff. Okay. There's a lot of great artists. And it's your favorite hip-hop group of all time? Of all time? I guess Tupac did some really great stuff. Okay. You know, there's a lot of great artists. And it's your territory. I mean, hip-hop is black culture. Yeah, yeah, but I'm just saying, I mean, never mind. You know people personally. I don't even need to say that because I have worked with a lot of artists and stuff.

And I've been really fortunate. They've done some amazing work. Do you consider your personal values when it comes to accepting a role? I always consider what I'm doing, what I'm saying and stuff,

what I'm playing a part. You know, even not just the part, but what the project is saying itself. I think it's important to like stay true to yourself

and true to your ideals and stuff and realize that, you know, you have impact impacting different people's lives and stuff and you got to have some, you have an impact impacting different people's lives and stuff

and you got to have some conscience around that. Is there anything you've ever turned down because of your personal beliefs, values? You know, yeah,

I'm just not good at like pulling out of the hat like names. Yeah. Obviously, we've discovered that already. Do you also sing? I did sing. I started in...

Did you do opera? I started in music. Now that seems like a surprise. That's why I wanted to make sure that wasn't fake news like the story about your brother being you. He did football and opera at the same time. I can see football. Opera? I was studying classical voice.

And actually I got my first agent as an actor from an opera, a light opera. I just did a musical, you know, in London with Dave Talbot. It's called Jingle Jangle. Now you're so soft spoken so I just did a musical. You know? Yeah. In London with Dave Talbot. It's called Jingle Jangle. You're so soft spoken so I can't see you. No! Come on.

Just one little bit. Just one little bit. I don't know. Nah. Nah. Yeah, but I did used to sing. That's right. When I had to do this show, the musical,

I was nervous I wouldn't be able to still sing, but it worked out. We can't hear a little bit? Just a little one note? Nah, nah. He's thinking about it. Now, what if Swizz said, we want you to do a song for the soundtrack,

Godfather Heart? I'd have been like, what? What do you want me to do? You know how many people are going to hit you up for it. Well, I trust Swizz,, we want you to do a song for the soundtrack Godfather Heart? I'd have been like, what? What you want me to do? You know how many ones are going to hit you up I trust Swizz, so. People are going to hit you up for features now.

Maybe they're going to get Forrest Whitaker on the hook. Yeah. I think when that one comes, when, honestly, I feel like Jingle Jangs is going to be one of the best movies I've done.

Oh, okay. Also, it's a musical and they're making it into a movie also. It's a movie musical. Movie musical. It was shot as a movie. Ah, okay. So it's it's a musical and they're making it into a movie also. It's a movie musical. Movie musical. It was shot as a movie. Oh, okay.

So it's, we'll see what happens. Now, Black Panther, you saw how much that movie meant to the culture. Easy to get emotionally attached to it. With that said, were you upset that they killed you off in it? Yeah, I mean, I think that, you know, he's a spiritual sort of leader of the community. So it's kind of always like a major law. It's not just for me as an actor. But I don't know.

I haven't talked to Ryan about what he's planning on doing exactly. That means you're not getting resurrected. I don't know. They do have a resurrection altar. I mean, I'm a comic book guy, so they have a resurrection altar in Wakanda. So it's possible. I mean, you saw already that he was

visiting his father and stuff. Being a spirit and stuff like that, it's like, I don't know. But I love that. This is an amazing, obviously amazing movie and amazing project. I'm just happy that I was involved with it. I got a chance to be involved with a lot of those kind of moments of movies, like the Waiting to Excels or the, you know. Strapped.

Strapped. Strapped is a classic, bro. I don't care what nobody says. What was your childhood like? How did you even get into the acting world? I was born in Texas. I was raised in South Central until I was about 11. And then in California.

Then we moved out to Carson on the Carson-Compton line. I was studying, you know, just like normal, just living during the whole period of time where there's a birth of the gangs and birth of the Crips and Bloods, and that was kind of shaping myself, because that sent me across town. I had some problems with some of the gangs there, so I had to be sent

to another part of town, and that changed my life. Then I started to, like, get into music and stuff, and the music led me into acting, and then here I am. What problems did you have with the gangs? Like, why did the gangs have a problem with you? Because you didn't want to join? They did something sort of violent and

was protesting and fighting back. And so then it was a question of meeting them after. The meet after school in that case was more like about gangs and guns and stuff like that. So in order to be safe my mom was a teacher, so

she decided to move me out. I was going to school in Compton. And she sent me across to another part of town. Did you ever feel pressured to join a set? No. Never? No. I knew lots of guys who were but no, that wasn't going to be me. I mean, even

that event that happened was a part of that. They know, like they were mistreating people around me and trying to mistreat me and I wasn't standing for it. Yeah, that took a lot of balls in the middle of Compton. You said Compton, right? Woof. It stayed up to the gangs. Yeah, I guess. Yeah.

And his mom was a teacher, so she knew. Yeah. Did you catch a lot of s*** for your name Farris when Farris Gump came out? People have said that joke a lot to me. But I'm like the third one. My mom, my father, and my grandfather named Forrest. It's a family name. Did you feel a way when you saw the movie title?

Like, wait. Forrest Gump? Yeah. Not really. But people definitely made the whole joke about Run, Forrest, Run and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. A lot of memes that you could create now. Is that your gym class?

Just in general. Do you see the memes about yourself? They always come for your eye. Your eye creates a lot of content on social media. Have you seen any of those? I've seen some of them. Yeah. I mean, that's going to happen. I remember you said once that you were

contemplating having cosmetic surgery on your eye. No, not cosmetic surgery because it limits my vision. Like when I look up and if there was a way to fix it, then I would have better vision. So there is no way to fix it. You know, there was a guy that told me there was, but then I just. Eyes are risky too. You don't want to do something and then it doesn't go the way you anticipated. And then now it's worse.

Yeah, that's what I was worried about. Now, is it a condition? Because after 11 o'clock, my eye does the same thing. And I always say, when it happens, I'll be like, I'm looking a little Forrest Whitaker-y right now. So is it like a condition or? This is called ptosis. It's like a I don't know, condition or whatever.

Yeah. I mean, I guess it's fine, you know, if that's what you think. When you think about it, if I come into your mind because of that. Right before he goes to sleep, he's coming into his mind. He's a kinky guy.

No, I'm talking about when I'm out after 11. Nah, you said night, late night. No, I didn't. I said when I'm out after 11. All right. Well, Godfather of Harlem, appreciate you for joining us. Thanks.

All right. As far as Whitaker's, The Breakfast Club, good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's hard to argue with these young boys about things that they don't know about. All right, let's get to the rumors. These young boys like drama. Just being here.

First, it was Beyonce's whack. Now he's telling me nobody checking for two live crew at a two live group. Let's get to the rumors. One of the biggest hip-hop groups of all time. Let's talk Super Bowl. It's about time. What's going on? Rumor Report.

Rumor Report. This is the Rumor Report. Talk to them. With Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. All right. Well, the NFL announced that both Jennifer Lopez and Shakira will be performing at the halftime show. And Uncle Luke, he's a little upset about it. So all of a sudden, the NFL, y'all going to bring in J-Lo and somebody else.

And just totally disrespect all the entertainment, all the African-American entertainment in Miami. So we don't exist. It ain't about me. I don't want to perform. I would have thought you had sense to go and get Pitbull, Flo Rida, or Ross, or somebody, Trick Daddy, or something. Really? We don't need the NFL. Our hotels are already filled up.

You need us. Jay-Z, you got to fix this. I can see why he's upset, because when you have a city like Miami that has the rich history it has and has the international superstars it does, you have to go get Pitbull. You have to go get Flo Rida.

Like, I don't understand why Pitbull and Flo Rida wouldn't be headlining that show. I don't understand. I mean, I'm not saying that you can't have a J-Lo out there, but why aren't Pitbull and Flo Rida headlining that show? Well, Dramos, our producer slash board op, says that, well, J-Lo

is bigger than anybody there, and she's a huge star. She is. I don't think you realize how big Pitbull was the past 10 years. I don't think you realize how big Pitbull was the past 10 years. I don't think you realize how big Flo Rida was the past 10 years. I would even say that they have bigger, I know they got bigger records than J-Lo has had over the past decade. Response? She's still an icon.

If it was like Miley Cyrus' headline, yeah, you have a fair argument. Bro, bro, bro, calm down. Calm down. Can we talk? Can we have a conversation? If it was Miley Cyrus or somebody like that, I could see the argument happening. But you're talking about an icon. J-Lo is an icon.

It's undeniable. So now we're sitting here, you know, going through that. What about Shakira, though? I can do without Shakira. So you're saying Pitbull or Flo Rida shouldn't even be on that stage? No, I said they are. But to me, they're all in the same level, in the same class. So at this point, what are we arguing about?

So add a Pitbull and a Flo Rida to the lineup. Or Rick Ross or a Khaled could be there or a Trick Daddy or a Trina. They're not to the same level of J-Lo or Pitbull. I could see you saying Pitbull. Are you kidding me? Come on now.

You're so disrespectful. Pitbull's not? Have the interns come out and have them name off a couple of Trick Daddy songs. Yeah. So why are you riding for Pitbull?

J-Lo's Puerto Rican of course reminded me of her. So you should add more Latinos. You should be awful at more Latinos. African American artist and the first person he named was Pitbull, so it doesn't even make sense what he's saying.

All right, girls. All right. They know. They know who he is. You better have that same energy when Uncle Luke comes back up. I can't talk about the Pitbull. You better have that same energy when Uncle Luke comes back up. And you better stick to the script of saying that you thought 2 Live Crew was trash.

You said that earlier. I never said that. Not yet. I think I heard that. I think I heard that. Because he goes, Uncle Luke couldn't perform out there. I said, are you crazy? Do you know those two live crew would set it off?

You're saying Uncle Lou, Pitbull, and J-Lo are at the same level? Are you kidding me? Two live crew means more to me than all of those people. See, you're an old head. J-Lo is older than me. J-Lo is older than me. And she looks better than you, though. Oh!

Oh, wait a minute, drum. She's got better skin than you. Drum, why are you comparing me and J-Lo's looks? Maybe because he's looking at you guys the same. I don't know. You thought about that? No, Drum, come on. You've thought about that before?

The fact that J-Lo looks better than Charlamagne? Have you ever smelled Charlamagne's shit? Why have you thought about that? Wow, Drum. Okay, all right. Well, lastly, Tyler, the creator, was performing. And as Tyler, the creator, was performing, somebody bumped in and said, it's my birthday.

So Tyler, the creator, wished her a happy birthday, Tyler, the creator style. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, dear random lady that thinks she's special, so she tell her while he playing piano, that's her birthday, like I'm a little. Dear random lady that thinks she's special so she tell the wally playing piano birthday Okay, all right, I'm shocked that your almost thinks JLo looks better than me I agree with him But I just want to know why am I the comparison? Yeah, why did you do it?

He was trying to hold her age against her, but I just want to know why am I the comparison to J-Lo? Yeah, why did you do that? He was trying to hold her age against her, but she looks more youthful than you do, so I don't understand that's the argument. No, you said she looks better. No, I didn't say that.

Who do you feel that sounds about more, J-Lo or Sean O'Brien? You definitely said that. I'm not having this conversation. You know everybody heard you, Drum. You said J-Lo looks better.

They both married, and she's not married yet. Who's got a better ass, me or J-Lo? Good question. He's getting turned down by this. That's what's making it weird over here. You can me or J-Lo good question he's getting turned down by this that's what's

making it weird over here look how excited he got why didn't you answer though why didn't you answer though

J-Lo alright people's choice mix coming up next Jesus alright Revolt shout out to you guys I don't know

what's gonna happen when I go do this mix I'm gonna leave them in here alone Tracy Morgan came in here one day and said he smelled butthole on your

beard drama I just wanted to throw that out he did say that. All right, Revolt, we'll see you tomorrow. The Breakfast Club, it's the People's Choice Mix. Let's go. Morning, everybody.

It's DJ, MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Now, again, shout out to everybody that came out to Atlantic City to our two-day seminar, real estate seminar. The first day season in I Flip New Jersey, we took people on a bunch of properties just to show them the properties, show them the state, show them what they auctioned off for,

show them what they were worth, show them how much money that they could make. Then we had a mix of them. The next day we had a seminar. So let me shout out to everybody that attended. Let me shout out to the councilman, Marty Maul, everybody in Atlantic City. We had a little problem with Oceans, which is a casino out there, but they fixed that quick. Atlantic City, actually had a little problem with Oceans, which is a casino out there, but they fixed that quick.

Atlantic City, actually, the hotel got hit by lightning and lost power. So they were able to fix that quick and got everything right. So shout to the vice president of Oceans and everybody that called me to fix things and make it right. And listen, man, I'm still shocked that DJ Dramosaw bought up, compared me to J-Lo. You know what I'm saying? He said that J-Lo looks better than me.

I just thought that was wild because, you know, you've been around your boys and you argue about what woman looks better than what woman, but I've never heard that. But, you know, I know his generation. His generation is the fluid generation. That's not what I meant. You know what I'm saying? And so being that his generation is the fluid generation,

him and his boys argue about who looks better, Charlamagne Tha God or J-Lo. Of course, J-Lo. It's not even close, but, you know, I'm just happy to be in that discussion. Thank you, Dramos. But, speaking of buts, you know, we had another member of that generation walk in and said that you're thicker than J-Lo.

Yes, that happened. Taylor did that. He said your derriere is a little better than J-Lo's. Maybe now. I might be a little thicker than J-Lo. But then I said, well, what about between you and Ro James, who was an R&B singer from Queens? And she said, Ro James beat you by a landslide.

Salute to Ro James. Shout out to Ro James. You know what I'm saying? Salute to all the brothers with hips out there. You know what I mean? We repping. This is awkward, man. No, it's not.

Yes, it is. It's just what happens when you work with these millennials. Okay. All right. When we come back, positive note, don't move. It's the. Yes, it is. It's just what happens when you work with these millennials. Okay. All right. When we come back, positive note, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.

We are The Breakfast Club. You got a positive note, man? Yes, man. This positive note comes from Joyce Meyer. And I want everybody to remember this on this fine Monday morning. God wants you to be delivered from what you have done and from what has been done to you. Both are equally important to God. Breakfast club, bitches!

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