The Breakfast Club - Erykah Badu Talks New Line Of Cannabis With Berner, Photo With Her Daughter Puma, Being 'Woke' +More

Episode Date: February 21, 2023

Erykah Badu Talks New Line Of Cannabis With Berner, Photo With Her Daughter Puma, Being 'Woke' +MoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

morning everybody it's dj envy charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club and we got a special guest in the building the queen the legend erica badu welcome if i could good morning good morning icon how are you good i see you on the cover of vote you saw me congrats celebrating 25 years in the business it confused me though because it said second How are you? Good. I see you on the cover of Vogue. You saw me? Congrats. Celebrating 25 years in the business. It confused me, though, because it said second coming. I'm like, second coming? That's what I said, too.

Yeah, you've been here forever. I know. I haven't left. Yeah. Maybe there's something they know that we don't know. What do you think that is? Some kind of reemergence or something. I'm going to take these out.

Did everybody see them? That's some freshwater pearls reemergence or something. I'm going to take these out. Did everybody see them? That's in freshwater pearls and Kyrie shells. You understand. Come on now. Okay. Take the grills out. Got them. There you go.

You know what I love about that? It's very clean, sterilized table. There you go. It's so spiritual, but yet still so down South Texas. Oh yeah. I think so. Yeah. I don't know what they mean my second coming

i'm honored to to be on that cover you know recognized in uh a world that i cherish so much you know art and creativity and style that's really cool really cool do you feel like they'd be trying to interrogate you when they have those conversations with you for those covers like they really want to get in the mind of Badu I don't know what they be trying to do I'm impenetrable

when it comes to that kind of thing I usually guide the conversation to you know talk about the things that I think that people should should hear yeah i got a chance to see you out outside the country you were uh we were staying at the same resort hotel and uh got a chance to see you perform why are you telling our business she was performing legally she was performing and i you know people i i'm not gonna say people

but i forgot how many hits and records that you had really like the amount of time you were on that stage the superbowl now oh come on you could yeah absolutely okay well people would know would you do it yeah i think so i don't know they're ready for that i can see those headlines they'll they'll act like you've cast a spell on america that's what they meant but the fact the fact that you had youngins in there all the way to adapting we had it was like 65 year olds and everybody that the music transcended you have a surprise with the the demographic of fans that you have because it was young 21 year olds that knew every words and then it was 65 year olds i think i think that the people our age and older resonate with the music

and the people who are younger like puma's age group the 18 to 30 they resonate with the words with because that's i think that's where we are right now as a culture moving forward in our spiritual uh understanding so i've been waiting for them to grow up you've been waiting for a minute to have somebody to talk to okay no that makes so much sense because when you hear a lot of these youngsters talk the spiritual journeys that they're on you created the soundtrack for that years ago somewhat yes i think so and now you're so fashion forward how much luggage do you have to carry when you're on the road between the hats the outfits the jewelry you have so i'm like i'm like how does she carry all that queen of shiva cattle gold trunks concubines fans have everything

walking through the airport and you feel like you have to show up for every show, like people expect this, you can't just come with a... But you know what, there's something people have to know about why I have all of these bags. I have the bags because generally people have a makeup artist and a hairstylist and wardrobe and costume. I do all of that myself on the road so I carry each production with me so if you see me and I have all that stuff it's for a reason

I seen you pulled up and it was like Erica Badu's truck is here the car is here I was like alright let me go out and meet her and when it opened it was just bags I was in one of the bags she told us she was in the bag lane. She was in the next one.

I was like, goodness gracious, a lot of bags. No cap. How did it feel after 25 years, though? Has it felt like 25 years in this game? Kind of. I don't really have a great conception of time, as you all know. Kind of, sort of. I could say now I'm going to be 52 on my birthday whoa so i could say

that i would have never guessed that yeah i could thank you i know i look like a child yes you do you know you see the pictures of you in puma but when y'all see i'm like y'all could be sisters we could be but yeah i don't know but at 52 now i see how fast it went and when you get to be like 52 we were past middle age because what do we live to 80 90 we were middle age at 40 so when you get to about 52 it's kind of like it didn't really go that fast so you don't want to really waste time on the things that you had to because you don't have to anymore so it should be smooth sailing from here yeah you know you know who's a boy and a girl you kind of like play the cards like that yeah when i look

at people like you and queen of four i just be, you can't even say how old you are. You really do have to say, how young are y'all? Yeah, yeah. Queen of Fool is amazing. She was up here yesterday. Yeah, yesterday. And I think about your music, and I feel like you've been prophesying so many things that we are currently witnessing. Do you ever

look around sometime and say, I knew it? I was right all along. Yeah, I knew. That's why I said it. What you drinking? This is apple juice and water and the herbs I drink every day. Bladderwrack, sea moss, astragalus root,

and omega-3s with a little bit of magnesium. And what's that good for? Your immune system? It's good for everything. Everything? Yeah, I'm trying to hit all the points. Yeah, because I also have some bad habits.

So this is how I balance it. What's your bad habits? I can't really tell everybody right now. Eating habits, bad habits? My stomach growling. Your stomach growling? I'm hungry. How long you been fasting three days

I can tell that wasn't no regular stomach growl it just wants to be a part of the interview it's like you lying that is not what we did how often do you fast and detox if you do every Friday so Friday to Monday you fast?

No, just every Friday. Friday 12 to 12 midnight to 6 p.m. Why Friday? I just picked a day that I thought I could remember and handle. And I've been doing it for years. What gives you the most purpose nowadays? Is it music? Is it performing?

Is it being a doula? Is it being a mom? Like, what is it? Hmm. What gives me the most what? Joy. Joy. Joy, purpose.

I think loving myself in a different way. You know, I like my alone time because i've spent so much time with everyone children you know and in relationships and things i'm enjoying my my time right now what do you what do you do by yourself is it meditation is it watching fuck boy television like what what does how do you enjoy yourself reality tv and stuff like that like what do you do okay i rest and i walk around the house and i make things and i look in the mirror and i get in my sauna and i braid my hair and yeah i just do things me things or you know so i can be me you know what is it about the sauna they tell you that you you enjoy the sauna numerous times a day what is it about the sauna that i do

all day uh that heat really um warms up the organs and the cells and the toxins, as you know, come out in the sweat and then go right into the shower and go back. It's just a detox. You're detoxing all the time. You've always shown so much confidence, so much poise, so much strength. I love when you say you did you say strength oh you know i'm from the south of carolina okay but you talk about looking in the mirror has there ever been a time ever where you looked in the mirror and didn't like what you saw

if i did something that was not not good you know or i'm hard on myself so even if I think something about somebody that ain't cool, I'd be feeling guilty. Yeah. So, yeah, I have, you know, looked and like, that's not cool. You said if you think about something negative about somebody, you feel guilty? Yeah. I think they can probably feel that at some point. You know, energy is transferable. You know.

Now, when people reach out to you to be a doula, how do you decide if you're going to do it or not is that based off the energy based off if you know somebody how do you decide yeah because i'm sure a lot of people reach out it's you know knowing people and and you know meeting somebody you said it exactly right it's the energy of conversation and what's going on and when you become a doula, how hands-on... You gotta give Erica some time between these questions. I'm sorry. She be feeling things through, you know what I mean? I'm sorry. He's excited. I'm excited.

I feel like we're cutting off the thoughts. You gotta let her just... Sorry. Yeah. It's alright. It's all good. He can probably finish his sentences, you know, at this point. I was asking when it comes to being a doula how hands-on are you because you know sometimes you know it might be in a different state a different area different zones so how do you so my doula services start from the the beginning of the pregnancy

you know maybe the third month and we go through a nutrition plan meditation if there's something that needs to be smoothed out in the relationship, if they want to share that, we do that. The fathers are also pregnant, so I talk to them and we'll counsel. And we, you know, build altars together or whatever it is that the person needs. And we build a birthing plan. We start the exercise regimen. Just whatever we need to do to clear out the way for those babies because my contract is really with the babies for them to come through and the parents be in harmony

and the room be the way that the parents want it to be just everything it's a really important ceremony so maybe one of the biggest rituals you know that we'll have besides going the other direction now do that too that's a doula what's the other direction uh yes i didn't know they had deaf doulas yeah what does that consist of same thing you are especially during the hospice period, you are gathering family members that they haven't seen. You're making sure that they are happy eating or drinking or reading their favorite things, listening to Richard Pryor, whatever it is they want to do,

praying, depending on what they believe. Because no one knows really where these beings came from or where they're going. But it's important to me that the breaths are easy during the transition. You're breathing easy. The room is easy, you know, so that you can be prepared for the next day. When you said the daddy's pregnant, what does that mean? Like there's an invisible umbilical cord connection that i find generally between the the wife and the husband or the mates he gains weight he gets moody he starts to change

he starts to crave other things could be other women could be freedom it's just everything changes so everybody's going through this process and And I find it comforting to have someone that understands what you're going through to help you make the right decisions during that period as a man. When you do the do's for the transition, what kind of energy is exchanged in the room, you think, between you and that person, if any? A lot, maybe. is exchanged in the room you think between you and that person uh if any a lot maybe usually i'm trying to be like water like like bruce lee says you know once i get everything the way it should be i'm in a corner like waiting to see what the next thing is and sometimes i'm at the forefront when the um person doesn't really have a lot of family. We're reading. We're reading. We're watching their favorite show. We're watching Steve Harvey. We're laughing. We're massaging the feet, combing the hair, braiding the hair. Sometimes brushing the teeth if they can't do that. Sometimes you get to a

point where you can't swallow. so i'm walking them through a breathing ritual that makes it more comfortable for them you know how difficult is that for you um not very difficult for me and that's why i decided to be the welcoming committee and the ushering committee because the first time i did it was with uh stickman's first child him and his made a fear i was i was just friends with them and i happened to be at her birth and that's when i kind of knew okay because i had just had seven a year before and i just kind of knew i could i can do this this is something you know and and I'm always looking to be of service in some kind of way. So that's when I started studying and taking it to the next level.

Yeah. Channeling information and things like that. I feel like you've been doing that. You've been talking about your music when I said the thing about how you've always been prophesying things. Channeling. Yeah, channeling. Downloads. That's how most things come to me.

Did that hinder you when you was younger? Because I'm sure that you saw things other people didn't see. Yeah, definitely. The energy is so great sometimes in numbers when people don't really understand it or could be intimidated by you or any of those things, envious of you even.

Sometimes the energy is too big when it's a lot of people. I can handle one or two, but when it's a lot, maybe the energy gets a little big. So as a child, it made me dim my light or pretend that I was like everybody else, you know, to make it easier for me. When did you start sharing your gifts?

I always did, but around groups of people, it's easier to just kind of blend in a little bit. I don't find that a bad thing to do, especially if you're aware. Importance of family you know one thing dealing with all these artists and meeting all these artists you see who's close with their family then you see who's really close with their family and I've seen you around your sister your daughter, your mother

your whole family, how important is that because you seem like you have them around a lot that's what I do it for, I do all this for them I don't really need nothing i just like collecting shit you know it's for them you know and they would do it for me each of them you know so we all travel together we've been all working together for the last 26 years my grandmothers were my accountant and publicist at a point they passed on now um my mom was the governess of my house the caregiver for my children my sister sang back up with me for 10 years and now she is my partner my company um my best friend out there called chris we've been friends since we were in high school

he is my partner in my merch company yeah it's just so big mike you know you think we just i keep the same people because it's easy you know we trust each other and they look out for me if i'm doing some it's good to have like an asshole checker and your family your family's not scared of you right you know you know so who's the asshole check out at everybody you name my mama yeah she'll quickly no that's not it yeah do you listen when she usually does or take some time sometimes sometimes some pushback depends on you know if i haven't got it yet what she's saying she's usually always right i love i love the quote about your mom my mother was an improvement on on her mother's design right

so i'm sure puma is an improvement on yeah her mother's design as well. Yeah, I think what I see in a lot of parents' mother-daughter relationships is the mother doesn't realize that you still have the opportunity to, you're still growing. It's not over for you. If you have a daughter, you still have to keep going. And the things that you didn't learn before, you will get to learn them through your kid. And that's how I see it going.

Sometimes when you don't know that, it makes it difficult for both people. Because when the roles aren't really played to the best that they can be played, that's when conflict arises to me now you also you got your own line of cannabis yes coming out with burner yes how did you and burner hook up and and how did that come about i believe burner reached out years ago and i just wasn't ready to to do that yet but um we reached you reached back out and um said, I think it's cool. It's time to do that. And I noticed that there was no area in the cannabinoid world where women were being focused on.

So my focus in cannabinoids is women's studies in the body, in child in meditation and religious studies and spirituality casually mothers everyday people and building a product line around their needs mm-hmm yeah is it just is it flour is it is it edibles is it what is it look at everything flour edibles uh creams sprays um we also do a mushroom mushroom teas a daytime tea and a nighttime psychedelic tea oh i need some of that i need some of that plant-based medicine so so break i've never had a mushroom in my life so break down the feeling of the psychedelic. Cause I know that I'm sure there's some people that have never experienced that as well.

It might be a little different for everybody, but for me, it's ritual work for me. I never do it like it's in a group hanging out with people. It's something that I do alone. I do that in my alone time. And with the mushrooms that plant medicine pretty much allows you to see the things that you block out you know the traumas that you've blocked out come to the surface and you're able to see them that's not necessarily a solution based based medicine but it is definitely a a 5d look at yourself completely some people would say why

like why do i want that trauma in full face if i'm trying to run from it why do i want it why do i want to run from it well that means that you don't want that right now. You know, I think plant medicine finds people. You know, it finds people. It finds you. You know, you've heard about it. You read about it and you keep seeing it. Then there you go. Maybe.

That's how I feel about ayahuasca. Yeah. For whatever reason, I keep running from shrooms. Yeah. But ayahuasca, I'm all in. I've been talking to a shaman. I'm going to do it. I feel like I've got to do it this year.

Yes, I understand that because mushrooms is generally not a shaman-based thing. The heroic dose of a five-gram mushroom intake kind of takes you to a place where ayahuasca does. It releases the same amount of DMT. So, but what I like about what you're saying, the guided shaman meditation kind of gives you these guardrails if you've never done anything like that before. Because it can be shocking. It can be sad. But what I've learned is when I do ayahuasca, it's different for everybody. But I find myself in these rooms, Envy, like you were talking about. Why do I want to go down this rabbit hole?

Well, I find myself in these rooms, and I also find myself able to open my eyes, and I don't have to stay there. That's the lesson for me. And I take it in everyday life. When I get these thoughts in my mind i'm able to now discriminate between the thoughts that are going to take me to this place and don't and because of the experience i had with they call grandma ayahuasca grandmother with grandmother who told me well you don't have to stay in the room you know you bought up in the corner in there

open your eyes get out of that room yeah so i take that with me through life now and people get different things that's what i got you know from my experiences discriminating between thoughts that evolve you and thoughts that do not every everybody i know that's done it the one constant i hear is they all say they saw God in some way shape or form like I know like my man Neil Brennan was an atheist did not believe in God at all he said he did ayahuasca and he said your highest self and protector is what it feels like. It's like one thing, like a being that you can trust more than anyone. And I would describe that as God, too. You know, nonjudgmental.

And don't help you, you you know when you're going through these hard things during the ceremony there's no help you know you you gotta man up you know you gotta see what you're made of during these times and i think that is what god is all about to me too so i agree i'm not clairvoyant like that. I don't see things, but I definitely feel, feel them. Really? Yeah.

I feel like we, I feel like we can visibly see your third eye. Mine? Yeah. You might can see it, but I don't visibly see any. I just feel, feel things. My,

my clairs are clairaudience and clairsentience, you know, feelings and thoughts and words, but seeing stuff, I don't see that oh okay i get but you feel it though i do feel it got you got you got you got you yeah how many times have you have you done i've had four ceremonies five ceremonies all in the same place different places different places i i wanted to do it in this indigenous place. South America is where I go

to do it. South Palo. Like when I have a show there, then I make sure that I make time for the healing work. How long does it take? What's the process? It's an eight hour journey. Really? Really.

I can't wait. I really can't wait. I can't wait for you. No I can't wait. It's gonna help definitely and I still feel some of the effects from an ayahuasca ceremony I've done two years ago or something you know you're getting downloads of oh that's what that's why I saw this person. That's why I feel that person. Yeah. How often do you share that information with the public? I've never.

This is the first time. Oh, wow. I'm not talking about the information of you doing it, but the information, the downloads you get from doing it. Rarely, because it's a personal thing. But if it's helpful, I will share it. Definitely. I think I'm more vocal now about this world, this 5D world, right now than ever,

because I think that everyone is receptive to it. So I feel more comfortable talking about it. You think because everybody feels that we can we're fully aware something else is going on like this is all a mirage there's something else after this i feel like i feel like during covid and after covid it's like the curtain got pulled back yeah well that covid was part of that part of that thing uh they say that we're moving into the age of Aquarius from the age of Pisces. And the age of Pisces was the age of, according to the theory of astronomy, the age of I believe. Now we're moving into the age of I know, which is the age of technology, where you don't have to guess. You can see the matrix,

you can get downloads of things really quickly. So we've moved into that age together and our children were born in this age. So yes, we in a different time, different place. How much do you think technology helps or hurts? Cause you use technology. I do. Yeah.

Definitely an analog girl in a digital world. So I got to, got to use, uh, how much do I think it helps? Helps or hurts? I don't know. I see it as like,

I see any other entity or person there's good and bad in it. And you use it, you know, how you use it determines whether it's good or bad yeah because i feel like they can take things that are just pure and turn it into something else like i saw that when you and puma posted your picture together yeah we just have fun all the time and puma's um collabing with a pants brand, really cute pants brand. We do this all the time.

But I don't know. People just, you know, I think people just kind of don't have enough to do. You know what I mean? Have enough shit to do. You know, you're going to stop doing the shit you're doing and interrupt the shit I'm doing. You know, you don't have enough to do.

And that's how I look at it. But it's okay. It's good. And we count on'm doing you know you don't have enough to do and that's how i look at it but it's okay it's good it's and we count on it you know it helps us sell the product you know it's free publicity how do you deal with puma dating if she's dating how do you deal with that how do you deal with that i really really like her mate okay i think she she's on point like she's an improvement on my design i wasn't as mature uh i didn't have my boundaries in place the way she does i think they good i think she's cool i think her father is also thinks that the the brother is a really good guy. So I, she's good, you know, she has so much to do. And I think each step of the way she's making sure that she's paying attention. Yeah, she's a, she's definitely an improvement on my design, for sure.

I was going to ask, you know, how did you move around a pandemic meaning they wanted everybody to do certain requirements to get in certain buildings and i know how you are about your herbs and what you drink and what you put in your body so and then uh you look now a couple of years later you see so many problems with people right people having heart attacks like crazy people are passing away like crazy and nobody knows to the reason why so how did you move around during the pandemic i really didn't go to many places you know i am the first uh social distancing it was it was based on my concept but yeah i don't really go places and stuff anyway so it was beautiful to me and when

i would go somewhere i would forget that oh we have to wear a mask we're in this world because i usually be in my world you know i create a world inside of my my space and it's just always been that way for me so they move around do you stay away from people because you are such a sponge for energy like because you feel so much probably I'm figuring that out why I do that why I stay away from people

I'm saying you're still figuring it out why yeah I'm sure there's more you know I've peeled back a couple of layers some more layers to peel man yeah i can't ever imagine a time where erica badu did not know who she was i do know who i am that's why i know i don't know the man that knows something. Knows nothing. Knows that he knows nothing. Mm-hmm.

That's all I want to know. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So I didn't know shit then. Yeah. Did you always know you was a healer? I'm sorry. Yes.

Yes, kind of. Kind of, sort of. Yeah. Since at what age? Nine, ten 10 something like that that early yeah and how did you know

uh the way people respond animals and things yeah you said like how to respond like at 9 10 I got energy like

at that early like that's my 4 year old everybody we all see that in her. She's an absolute healer. She does things my grandma does. Yeah, just like the way I nurture rocks or playing old rock means a lot to me. I don't know.

Yeah, I kind of knew that. I guess for the sake of words healer would be that word did you feel odd in school that because you obviously you I'm a I'm a mutable person so I I learned quickly not to put myself in in the line of fire so I kind of mutate to how other people behave and learn that yeah so I didn't really yeah I didn't really do too much talking about these kind of things which is wild to me because you're a musician right so you have to to talk and not always even though you played most

of your own instruments it was none of that well when i was younger i thought we was talking about that you know but i didn't become a singer till i was like 25 yeah i'm talking about when you were a kid as a child yeah okay how old is your daughter i got a 14 year old a seven year old a four year old and a 15 month year old-year-old is... What's the birthday? She's a Libra. Oh, she is? Yep. She's a Libra.

She was born in September? Okay. Yep. What made you jump just now? You felt some bad energy, didn't you? You did a little bit, right? A little bit. Okay.

All right. Don't worry. Yeah, it was your point your point I saw you jump your point now she did jump

a little bit yeah yeah that was your point that got hot now you got a you got a book is there a book coming out in 2024

I keep hearing about for me yeah I might be I don't think so am I putting out a book New America Part 2 is that gonna be

the album or a book oh no the book okay the book okay that's gonna be part two no i don't know if somebody gave y'all some wrong yeah somebody gave us that what'd it say you got a book on erica badu on erica badu album new america part two is coming in 2024 maybe somebody else writing it you would have to do that one day though right write a book yeah you keep telling me that you should i really enjoyed your book i think i think i'll get i'm so lazy you know i i like doing things that come really easy for me you know and i do them well and i'm not trying to reinvent the wheel you perform for two hours

straight that ain't that easy it's super easy you singing running back and forth playing like playing instruments uh it's easy that's easy like this is easy for you you know that's what i think people should focus on what's the most what's the easiest thing for you and find a way to capitalize on that you know we be trying to leverage other people's lives and shit what's the easiest thing for you you know that's why everybody all out of alignment now because they're doing things that they shouldn't be doing they're doing things that they see other people do comparison right comparison yeah i heard what's the guy named um ed cartola you know that i hear him say things like like the ego needs an identity,

and the identity lives by comparison. So we can't help but compare ourselves. I think somebody also said that when you're scrolling down Instagram, when you see a beautiful woman and you're a woman, you have about two minutes of depression that happens in the body. Really? Yeah, you get depressed a little bit for about a couple of minutes. So your body releases an enzyme or hormone that causes that.

What if you too are a beautiful woman? It still happens for some reason because the body naturally wants to compare right yeah who is erica badu ever compared herself to because you were one of one i am one of one well you don't always know that you know we don't always know that it depends on how we're feeling. Hormonally, we move up and down all day long, you know. I'm perfect, you know, but I don't know that. Yeah, all the way. Is that something you have to keep telling yourself? Yeah, like, yeah.

I think we all do. You know, healing is like a full-time and part-time job. It's happening all the time you know my daughter was and i was talking once about jealousy and those kinds of things and i told her those feelings don't ever go away you just learn how to manage them better and use them you know better you know but the feelings of those things kind of stick with you and um you know like people say it's not a journey of trying to get somewhere it's a decision that you make i'm going to decide

to behave this way you know and that's that's because we're already here we just have to decide i'm gonna behave like this starting today you know so when's the last time you compared yourself to somebody you personally compared maybe no in that kind of way on instagram i'm looking down the thing and you see somebody's body that's cute or something

you compare that because none of us think we're perfect I told y'all during window seat I didn't think I had a great body but I learned that I did from the responses can you imagine if they had social media back then can you imagine yeah they had social media back then? Can you imagine? Yeah. Yeah. When I see somebody, you know,

with the ideal body that I think I should have, you know, I'll compare that in my mind. What is an ideal body though? You know, to me it's athletic body. That's what I like because that's what I've always had. And as gravity comes in, you know, it's not the same anymore. It was athletic. know it's not the same anymore it was athletic now it's athletic yeah you had the young boys going crazy last year though when you was you was working on state who was that with was that with megan you were twerking on somebody's stage that was

terrible that was terrible on purpose i'll be trying to do terrible things and then people say it's great that scares me that really scares me because it you know it's great what do you mean i don't believe you you know yeah because i'll be trying to clown and shit you know so how did that impact you with your art what like you said you said you'd be trying to do things terribly do you ever create terrible art on purpose just to test somebody in the studio let me see if they tell me i wouldn't say terrible art but like not putting a lot of effort into something and then people say it's great that's when you know okay this is not me because i personally didn't put a lot of work into that

thing yeah well what if you're five and somebody else is 10 well what what if you're five is somebody else's 10 well what if you're five is somebody else's 10 it's possible because we're not the same so you do it to be bad not to be good no see y'all taking it too far no I'm just saying you know at some point when I'm just doing something like i write a song over some music and then i don't think this is it and then people will go that's great that's great i just don't believe it you know because it's not great to me so you know that's what i mean i want to tell you one of these questions that one of our uh producers wrote on this list just because i think it's a hilarious question number 11 yes? Yes. Read it.

You read it. Number 11. I don't know why I'm reading it, but I thought it was funny too. I think it's hilarious. Okay. It said, you still selling your pussy in the bottle? It's in a box. It's in a box?

In a box. I am. Whenever need be. Incense, yes. Incense, yeah. Whenever need be, I do. How are you with your mate? Are you joking?

Does your mate ever know when you crack a joke and you're sarcastic? I don't think so. I don't know. He doesn't know if you're joking or not? We can say mates. We can go across the board in time. You have to have the same sense of humor with somebody for them to understand that you're joking because there are few people that don't we don't have the same sense of humor so they don't never

know when i'm joking you know i have a super morbid dark sense of humor you know i laugh at shit that people not supposed to laugh at right yeah so some people know when i'm joking some people don't so you have to have that real connection because they're gonna you're gonna laugh and they're gonna look at you like you're crazy i really like having the same sense of humor and music taste you know and everything else can expand as long as you're working on yourself we can have that and that's enough for me because you know as you're growing we got to be listening to music and we're gonna be joking those are the constant

things so i like having those two things in common and i don't like nobody making me question myself that's right you know i'm saying like that my fucked up for laughing right yes i think we laugh at the same thing we get in trouble for it absolutely it'd be funny though all the time i can't i can't look at him most of the time because we just start laughing at stupidish and we used to get in trouble yeah all the time people always tell me it's too soon is it though it's too soon yes sometimes what is time i don't know yeah right so tomorrow don't hit him with what is time that's how i be feeling like what do you mean too soon yeah and most of the time we're not laughing at the situation we're laughing at the absurdity it's just hi hey yoka hey yoka is a term coined

by native american tribes like the sioux tribe for example the reason i'm laughing now is because we had don't worry i'll tell you you talking about hey yoka no we had a co-host today that was talking about native americans and indian people shut up and she just used a term that was so well we tell that we say that we tell you to off mic but tell me in a minute oh later okay hey yoka is a term that describes a character in the village who does everything backwards. He rides the horse backwards. He purposely burns himself to make fun. He's like the jester or the joker. But he's the one who tries to make people not take things so seriously. Gotcha. Life and death, you know, and birth and tragedy, you know.

So he makes the joke out of it. I'm super hey-o. So people don't think that's funny a lot, you know, the things I say, but I'm trying to make it lighter and that you don't take it so seriously. It's okay. We're in one moment right now. You're that too. I'm 100%.

Yeah. Sometimes to my own, I don't even want to say it's to my own detriment. I just don't think it's a gift to share with everybody. Right. That's something I had to learn much later in life, though. It's tough, love, because you tell the truth, and you don't really have patience for anything in between. So that's Hey Yoka as well.

Super gifted, but really impatient. You know, one thing we talk about with you and and i love it like you've never allowed allowed yourself to be labeled like even when it comes to it comes to men right people always talk about your baby fathers but you like they can't ever label you anything like they don't do that with other women other women they'll put labels on oh yes lucky born on the right day you know it's i don't know i think if you're transparent people shouldn't do that today yeah i don't i didn't know anything i didn't know no one would expect to have three baby daddies who Who plans that?

But when those things start to happen, you don't stop living. You continue to grow and live and learn and make the best out of those situations and things. Who would want to do that? You know, in this judgmental society. You just fucked me up because I thought, Erica, but I do plan that. You did? Absolutely. Okay, well, I planned thought you some part of me

it's got to be right yeah no no let's let's be transparent you know for for my sisters out there um we fall in love you know love is a chemical thing we fall in love really i think god make us fall in love just long enough to get pregnant so that we could go ahead and procreate keep the race going and then that dies down and then everything else is on you depending on your culture next step is marriage or the next step is another mate the next step is whatever in our culture the next step is supposed to be marriage and it doesn't fit everybody that doesn't fit me you know and and marriage is in the in in this country a culture it's a culture it's you're supposed to do a certain thing so because we're all individual

beings everybody does not have relationship skills everybody does not um know how to be a mate you know and we try you know but we're not taught that that's something that we're not taught how to do it's a whole culture built around it but we don't even know how to do it it's the most important thing yeah when did you when did you realize i don't have those skills you know you're not built for relationship not that kind not yet you know anyway i don't i noticed that i didn't have relationship skills when um the rules of those engaging skills is the man is the giver and the woman is the receiver. My body is not built that way. I like to polyurethane and climb trees and have cars and work and ambitious for my family.

I am the breadwinner of my whole entire clan, my family. I'm the franchise so that doesn't really work for the culture of marriage that we have been taught you know it could be another kind of thing it could work for but this culture that has been instilled in our minds doesn't work for that and women who do have those kinds of desires and things are deemed too this, too masculine, too ambitious, too that. You want to be a man. You want to. What do you mean? I just want to be Eric.

But it's changed a lot. Yeah. It has to a certain extent, but not in that area because if you want to be chosen for a mate you you really have to understand the culture of partnerships there's a culture and you have to be willing to work that's why they call it hard work you know it they call it work because it's not a natural thing for us it's not a natural it doesn't come natural for us to do some of those things that cultural relationships require that's why we gotta work hard and make mistakes and i accidentally did this

because it's hard work it's so wow because i think people look at when they think of you, they think of Erica is the woman that does what she wants to do and necessarily doesn't want to be in a long term relationship. They look at Erica's like, this is what I want. And then I'm on to the next because that's how I am. I'm a free being. That's how I feel. I don't think anybody would ever thought that. That's what the free being part is. Right.

I am very open. My heart is very open to new relationships. It's open. I don't carry the fear and hate from the last one into it because it's something else. So I'm not a planner as much that's how i also know that i'm not suited for the cultural relationships because it requires all these plans and things you know i am suited for the culture of entertainment though i can do that very well i know all the ins and outs of that, and I've spent most of my adult life honing that energy and not giving a lot of time to the other part.

So you wouldn't necessarily want to work on the relationship part. It just wasn't in you at the time. No, I didn't want to at that time. You know, I just felt like if it didn't fit, I ain't doing it. You know, it doesn't work. So you can let go so so easy i guess because i have to work afterwards you know the letting go part may be easy but the work is the missing the people and you you create these bonds together and yeah it's it's very difficult but i

like to do that in private i'm not gonna going to make it the guy's responsibility and nobody else's. But I know when it's time. The download told me. I'm glad you're here because I want to explore this with you because you said something and I've been thinking about this. I feel like patriarchy is such a forced concept. Yeah. And I feel like people have to create a patriarchy in order to make men lead.

I think if it was just naturally divine it'd be a partnership i just think the balance would it be more balanced but the women are the natural leaders to me and if i don't know if you've seen the cover the new cover with rihanna and to me that represents that in such a real it's it is it speaks volumes to asap rocky's love for her you know and for himself you know you have to really love yourself as a man in this society that has done this number on you and beat you down to the point where you feel like you're nothing if you don't have some physical thing to offer you know you're an extraordinary human being if you have emerged out of that pool of despair you know it's it's disparaging to have to feel like you are nothing if you don't bring something to this table in the cultural relationships it's difficult our son so i would

hate for him to have to feel like that and then result to insecurity and result to uh envy of his mate and all that you know that's why i'm not suited for this culture of relationships you know because i don't believe those things i don't believe my son to be in a box nor myself you know have you had problems with men wanting letting with men uh understanding that you know you just are a natural leader yeah yeah yeah they was in the world i grew up in so yes i don't think they mean to i don't think they mean to, I don't think they want to, but this is the program, you know? And I also think it's a very innate thing for men to want to care for and take care of someone for the rest of their life, you know? But the way that we think that they're

supposed to take care of someone for the rest of their life is obscured to me. Can't expect somebody to be the strongest person and never cry, carry you across the railroad track. That's a human being too. And they feel like failures a lot when they don't do those things and can't do those things. And they feel like inadequate beings when the woman makes $70 more than they do or something like that to me

submission it's a very important thing in the relationship and I think the person that submits should be submitting to the person with the mission not a stronger person or the male person. Whoever has the mission, and it works for the family. And the woman can have more money, lots more money. But as long as a man has a mission, that's fine. Because if he wants to and needs to feel a certain way about it, then it's up to both of us.

Not because it's the rules. It's because we care about each other. We are compassionate to each other's feelings and each other's needs. I know what you want and what you're trying to do. And there's no way I would poke at that or put you down because of it, like what you said earlier. Make you feel bad because your your humor is dark would you have a problem submitting to somebody not at all no no i do when there's a mission

you know that's what submitting is about but if someone expects you to be submissive in the like in the culture what the culture describes as submission is cooking and cleaning and bearing and doing all those things i do all those things too but that's not all i do and only all i do so and you don't because you want to not because i do it because it's my responsibility okay you know it's my responsibility i agreed to do those things yeah that. That's why I do them. The only time I've ever seen you, like, really push back on double standards that exist is when they would age shame in you. I think it's so weird. I mean, it is.

It's like Erykah Badu, 52, goes to the store. But if we're talking about you, Charlamagneagne there's nothing in sight with your age and that's just another that's part of the culture it's the part of the patriarchal culture they don't see this age shaming they feel like they are letting us know letting the rest of the people know you know they're not saying you look good for your age they're just saying you've aged and I don't know what that means you know still and they do that even with

who you might choose to date he can be with young Miami it's no problem Erica with a young boy what is she doing yeah it's just like that it's because we're not supposed we're supposed to be some pussy. Y'all can beep that out.

But that's what we're supposed to be. And if that's all you supposed to be, then they got to put an age on it. It's old pussy. Well, treat it like cognac. Treat it like wine. It's seasoned. It's better when it's seasoned. Well, we know that's seasoned well we know that yeah we know that

but you know it's just weird how the the world is set up cause I don't see it and I'm not programmable when it comes to that part

you know I'm not a nonconformist I'm not a feminist you know I'm just awake I can see awake not woke

both I think woke people need to get some sleep you know because they're using woke as something to compare themselves to somebody else who doesn't know as much as they that's not what woke is me and George were talking about woke the other day

what woke is is keeping your antenna up and paying attention to the things that are going around along or going on in your life inside your body and outside just stay woke you know it's and it's just been obscure we're taking it back you know because woke is a necessary thing for people you know you got to be aware in tune in alignment with nature and the things that are going on so you can not make the same mistakes yeah but just a a personal question i just wanted to know yeah her time is precious i know i know i know i just want to know what got you into djing like what because you know you dj shows now she djs arenas what got you into djing i've been djing since i was 14 years old i used to skip school to go to this guy

house and dj and he would have like five or six other people they was all grown people it was like 19 to 25 i was 14 and i would go over because i was really interested in djing and i and that's where i learned and yeah it's just been a love of mine since because i love music so very much um my uncles and my mother my cousins I mean we are all music historians love all genres of music it's our coping mechanism along with dark humor mm-hmm you know music and humor and that's the way I grew up so that's that's comfortable for me when somebody has that same humor as your tribe and the same kind of stand for music but i've been dj in a long time i ain't new to this i haven't seen she knows the dj arena

thank you she dj'd my queen's 40th and that was that was a vibe we had so much fun oh man nobody knew she was coming my wife didn't even know and when lowdown loretta brown walked in the building lord have mercy yeah, that was incredible. So thank you for that. Thank you. And we appreciate you for joining us this morning. Thank you so much. This is so good.

We're going to leave people confused. Why? No, we're going to leave them going to do some research. Yeah, there you go. Okay. All right. Well, thank you so much, both of you. Anything else they need to know?

Just that you guys are sitting in throne chairs. And I'm in like a regular. No, we got yours coming. Oh, you do? We got an extra one coming. We do. You are lying. No, we do.

But see, I'm trying. I'm toying on it because I don't want. I'm not going to let everybody see it. I'm serious. Oh, so you got one for the guests. No, special guests. Special guests. Special guests.

Okay, cool. I like it. I'm really happy to see y'all. I'm happy to see you too. And I'm grateful to be here. And I'm grateful for this collab with Cookies, you know, because it's important, you know, for us to expand and break that, you know, that taboo about women and cannabinoids. So I forgot I had to plug that in.

We got you. We've been talking about supernatural. Yeah, but I'm happy. I'm grateful to Vogue for recognizing, you know, my love for fashion. Well, thank you. And happy early born day. Yeah, my birthday party. Would you like to close us out on a prayer, some positive energy?

Absolutely. A prayer? Yeah, let's do it i well god thank you uh look we don't do all the right things and we don't know all the right things but we are so happy for all of the information that you have provided us. We're so grateful for ma'at. That means balance. Grateful for running water. And for clothing and shelter and buildings. And partners to argue with. And people to compare ourselves to.

And the mistakes that turn into our greatest lessons we thank you and we don't take this opportunity to grow for granted I say oh I say thank you the queen the icon living

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