The Breakfast Club - Evelyn Lozada Interview

Episode Date: June 20, 2019

Today on the show we had a first timer again, but this time it was Basketball wives star Evelyn Lozada where she spoke about the next season, drama with the women, her new book and more. Also, Charlag...magne gave "Donkey of the Day" to Mitch McConnell for saying "No one alive is liable for reparations" and Angela helped some listeners out during "Ask Yee". Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:37 It's time, it's time, it's time, it's time to wake up. DJing in Angela Yee and Charlamagne Tha God. The Breakfast Club, bitches. The voice of the culture. People watch The Breakfast Club for light news and really be tuned in. It's one of my favorite shows to do. Just because y'all always keep it 100, y'all keep it real. They might not watch the news, but they're on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:01:57 They're on Facebook. They're, you know, they're listening to The Breakfast Club. Get your ass up. Good morning, Angela Yee. Good morning, TJMV. Charlamagne Tha God. Peace to the planet. It's Thursday. Yes, it's Thursday. I can't believe it's only Thursday.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Yeah, another nasty-ass day in L.A. What you mean only Thursday? In L.A. In L.A.? You're in New York, bro. I said another... What'd I say? Another nasty-ass day in L.A. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 00:02:41 I meant to say another ass-nasty-ass day in New York. Another ass-nasty-ass day in L.A. You know where you're at? I just got back. You're confused. I just got back from L.A. L.A. was beautiful yesterday. New York is nasty. I meant to say another ass nasty ass day in New York. Another ass nasty ass day. You know where you're at? I just got back. You're confused. I just got back from LA. LA was beautiful yesterday. New York is nasty.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I left New York nasty and it came back to New York nasty. It's going to be nasty for the next couple days here. That's what I'm trying to say. Okay. Yes. I was in LA yesterday doing the Joe Rogan podcast. Okay. Yeah, salute to Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Now, you had your live event last night, Yee. You look at it. Yes, lip service. I'm so tired. Lip service live was last night. Usually, we start earlier than we started yesterday. But what time you start? Nine o'clock at night.
Starting point is 00:03:08 That's too late on a weekday. And that means it's not going to end till after 12. Yeah, we didn't get out of there until late. But it was an amazing podcast. We had a good time. Trina came through. Shout to Trina. Her album comes out tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:03:19 The one she had a really good time. She's like, we're doing this in Miami. So she wants to set that up now. OK. And then Kadeen and Deval Ellis really good time. She was like, we doing this in Miami. So she wants to set that up now. Okay. And then Kadeen and Deval Ellis also were there, the Ellis's, and they are hilarious.
Starting point is 00:03:31 So it was a good time and then Gigi leads the twerk educational class. Okay, she teaches women how to twerk? Yes. That's why you so damn tired. A lot of girls
Starting point is 00:03:40 were on stage twerking. All that goddamn twerking after nine o'clock. After nine o'clock. Y'all better start acting like y'all 40. You say you be out there late twerking and then can goddamn twerking after 9 o'clock. After 9 o'clock. Y'all better start acting like y'all 40. You say you be out there late twerking
Starting point is 00:03:46 and then can't gotta be to work at 4 in the morning. Listen, I'm never out this late. So I was like, it was just a lot. And then I had to, I had to go to LA today for BET Awards weekend.
Starting point is 00:03:56 And so I still have to pack my stuff. So I came home, I went home last night. I was up until like maybe 3 in the morning trying to pack and I just gave up.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Just gave up. So you do that. What time is your flight? I got to leave right after. And I heard that Delta had their computers were down yesterday, so there's a lot of delays. Damn it, man. Well, have fun. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Now, today is my baby girl's graduation. She graduates kindergarten. She goes to the first grade. You got on a crisp shirt today. Crisp shirt. That's right. So after this, I'm heading straight to her graduation. So that's always a lot of fun. Always long.
Starting point is 00:04:28 They always do like a little play or something like that that's always like corny but makes you cry. So I'm excited about that. She's going to first grade. She's getting big. How many kindergarten graduations have you been to? This is number three. I have two more to go. This is number three. Two more to go. Well, today
Starting point is 00:04:44 Evelyn Lozada will be joining us, of course, from Basketball Wives LA. Yes. So we'll kick it with her. There's a lot going on with her and a new show. So that came out last night, right? Yes. And I saw she was going back and forth with Rob Kardashian on Twitter. He said that she's a squirter.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Oh, okay. So you asked that. No, you asked that. Rob Kardashian said Evelyn's a squirter? Yeah. Rob asked if Evelyn Lozada said Evelyn's a squirter. Yeah. Rob had sex with Evelyn Lozada? I don't know. I guess we got to find out.
Starting point is 00:05:08 She also said he had a big sausage. Oh, they had. You know, they had sex with each other. I don't know. We'll ask her. I wasn't here for all of that. Jesus Christ. And we got front page news.
Starting point is 00:05:16 What are we talking about? Let's talk about the FBI. They are now assisting authorities in the Dominican Republic looking at these toxicology samples to find out what is going on, why are people getting sick, and why are people dying. All right, we'll get into all that when we come back. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front-page news.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Start off with sports. First, congratulations to CeCe Sabathia. Yesterday, he won 250 times, so he had his 250th win First, congratulations to CeCe Sabathia. Yesterday, he won 250 times. So he had his 250th win. So congratulations to him. That's a big deal. Congrats, CeCe Sabathia. Congrats to CeCe. Shout to Amber.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Now, also, they're saying that the Rockets, I don't know why they said try dumping, but they're saying the Rockets tried dumping Chris Paul onto the Knicks. Because the Knicks are where NBA players go to die. Remember how back in the day people used to say that about contract records? That's where rappers go to die. That's where the Knicks are at NBA players go to die. Remember how back in the day people used to say that about contract records? That's where rappers go to die. That's where the Knicks are at this point in life. Well, we'll see what happens. What do you mean we'll see what happens?
Starting point is 00:06:12 The Knicks are dead, bro. Listen, this is another year. We need to talk about this real quick. I don't want to talk about this. This is another year where y'all took a bunch of players, photoshopped them in Knicks jerseys. Okay, over the years it's been LeBron. It's been D-Wade.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Now this year it was Kevin Durant, Zion Williamson, and Kyrie Irving. You got none of them. So? Again. That doesn't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yo, somebody's gonna die in 30, 40 years from now, somebody's gonna look at a meme of all these Knicks players, Photoshop the Knicks jerseys and be like, how did all these
Starting point is 00:06:40 Hall of Famers play for the Knicks and they didn't win? Isn't the NBA draft tonight? Yes, the NBA draft is tonight and the Knicks have they didn't win. Isn't the NBA draft tonight? Yes, the NBA draft is tonight and the Knicks have the number three pick. So we're hoping that Zion passes one and two and goes to number three. Shut up. That's the type of dumbass belief that the Knicks have in things.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Yeah, well, we have the number three pick. That's tonight. So we'll see what happens. What else we got, Yee? Well, the FBI is now assisting authorities in the Dominican Republic. They're going to look at some toxicology samples from the minibars. So they're taking an extensive collection of samples when someone dies in a hotel room. They test the minibars for bacteria, and they also test the water from the showers and sinks as well.
Starting point is 00:07:18 So they are assisting with the toxicology tests of three of the nine Americans who died in the past year. They said these results could take up to 30 days to come in. So I guess we'll see. Now, the Dominican Republic officials are saying that this is all fake news. Oh, really? So it's a bunch of dead bodies, a bunch of fake dead bodies? They said it's all a hysteria against the Dominican Republic to hurt our tourism. This is a very competitive industry and we get millions of tourists.
Starting point is 00:07:42 We are a popular destination. They also said that tests of the alcohol, the food, and other areas of different properties that have been impacted have all came back negative. So you mean to tell me all of these women that have been going to the DR for years to get plastic surgery, now all of a sudden we're just going to start hating on the DR? Come on, DR. Y'all better than that. Nobody's hating on the DR. There's something going on.
Starting point is 00:08:04 There's something going on. Jesus Christ. People are dying. What else we got, E? Well, speaking of that, the U.S. suicide rate is up 33% since 1999, according to research. They said suicide rates have increased significantly among people 15 to 64
Starting point is 00:08:21 during that period. They said the suicide rates are at the highest level since World War II, and those who identify as American Indian or Alaska Natives had the highest increase among all race and ethnicity groups, and suicides among girls and women also rose significantly
Starting point is 00:08:36 for all racial and ethnic groups. I bet a lot of it has to do with... Except Asian or Pacific Islanders. I bet a lot of it has to do with social media. Yeah, and this is exactly why I put so much... A lot of it. This is exactly why I put so much emphasis on mental health. Okay, people are hurting and they need healing.
Starting point is 00:08:49 You got people out here that are dealing with all types of trauma, dealing with all types of pain, and they are redistributing that pain to themselves and others. And I agree with you. I bet you a lot of it has to do with social media. Absolutely. All right. All right, well, that's front page news.
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Starting point is 00:09:18 Whatever it may be, call us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. You better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:09:38 Yo, Envy, what up? Spector, good morning, good morning. Spector, what up, man? Get it off your chest, bro. Now, first I want to say I'm super blessed. This morning, I have a single dad and my baby girl. She did A's and B's all four quarters of school. My little man about to go on to junior high school, and he did good, so I'm blessed, man. That's what it is. My kids said they were three and four years old, and they're about to be 14 and 13.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Congratulations, single dad. Congratulations. I appreciate that, man. Congratulations, single dad. Congratulations. I appreciate that, man. I'm super blessed for that. And they were envious.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I wanted to hop it up with you, man, because I sent you a DM about you coming to Raleigh, man, and doing a
Starting point is 00:10:12 seminar. How far is Raleigh from Charlotte, bro? Two hours. About two and a half, three hours. Are we doing
Starting point is 00:10:17 one in Charlotte? Why don't you drive over to Charlotte, brother? At that time when you come, man, I got something I got
Starting point is 00:10:22 to do with the kids. I was trying to work that out. They about to leave for the summer, man. Do one special for him. Yeah, now we're doing one in Charlotte on the 27th.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I mean, I wish you could make it. It's Sunday morning. You know, we're just trying to teach people real estate. If you hold on the line, if you can make it, you know, I know you're a single dad. I'll pay for your ticket. Why you make it sound like single dads out here doing bad? No, he's doing a lot. So I'm saying I'll pay for his ticket.
Starting point is 00:10:45 He's got to take care of his kids and all that, so I'm trying to help the brother out. You're not really going to pay, you're just letting him in free. Yeah, I'm going to pay
Starting point is 00:10:50 for his ticket, so I'm trying to help the brother out. Who got the money? I got a request too, man. What's up, bro? Can I get that Ocean Drive by Smith & Wesson, man?
Starting point is 00:10:59 It's so hot. Okay, Smith & Wesson. Shout out to Brooklyn. Shout out to Smith & Wesson. I love Smith & Wesson. I out to Brooklyn. Shout out to Smith & Wesson. I love Smith & Wesson. I never even heard the records you talking about. You ever heard
Starting point is 00:11:08 Ocean Drive using So Child? Nah, it's new. Oh, yeah. It's brand new. It's their new album of all. It was fire, son.
Starting point is 00:11:16 I'm sorry, man. I'm not real hip-hop like I used to be, my brother. But if you make it out there on the 27th, I got you. I'll pay for your ticket,
Starting point is 00:11:24 all right? How about you just put him on the list? I ain't got to pay for his ticket. You're going to pay? It's a business. I got to pay for his ticket. I'm doing a seminar this weekend in New Orleans on the 23rd. Taekwon.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Hey, good morning, y'all. Good morning, Angela Yee. Good morning. What up, King? Ow. I'm back. What's up, bro? Get off your chest.
Starting point is 00:11:44 No, good morning. I just wanted to f you up, bro? Get off your chest. No, good morning. I just wanted to f you up because I had graduation this morning. Your phone breaking up. You talk all that smack and your phone is horrible.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Hey, hey, hey, hey. What? I wanted to f you up because I had graduation this morning. Okay. And that's it about it.
Starting point is 00:12:02 All right. Thank you, brother. Everybody graduating, okay? Angel. Hey, what's up, brother. Everybody graduate. Okay. Angel. Hey, what's up, Breakfast Club? Hey, I just want to say I enjoyed the show yesterday. And I think you guys need to have Trav out there a little bit more than you guys do. Oh, Trav came up here yesterday, Charlamagne, for Angel Lee's lip service podcast.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And, you know, he was hanging out with us all day. He got cursed out a little bit, but it was kind of funny. But thank you. Hey, Trav. Also, I hear him all the time. I can't put a face on, so every time I hear him, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:12:28 for some reason, I picture Lamar from The Avengers and Nerds. Jesus Christ. Oh, my gosh. Nah, he ain't Lamar. No, what does he look like? I just want to know.
Starting point is 00:12:38 His Instagram is aka underscore twin. He's single, too, so you should holler. Oh, no, no, no. I'm happily married. I'm happily married. I'm happily married. Yeah, he looked like he could rob you, but he really just wanted to put his tongue in your ear.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Yeah. You guys are crazy. Have a blessed day. You, too. He's like, I have to go. Well, you can't say nothing else. You'll be like, yeah, I just have a blessed day. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:12:58 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Wake morning. The Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up. Wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Say it, say it, say it. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Jim, what's up, Jim? Yo, what's up, what's up, guys? What's up, what's up, what's up? What's up, man? Get it off your chest. Yo, every day I listen to you guys,
Starting point is 00:13:25 and every morning you guys put a smile on my face on the way to work. So I appreciate you guys. We love you back. That's your wife? We can hear you smiling right now. Exactly. One other thing, Envy.
Starting point is 00:13:35 My sister did not follow, like, your real estate. She already got two houses. But can I shout her out real quick? Yeah. Where y'all from? We're from Tom's River, New Jersey. Her Facebook is Christina Matthews. And her Instagram is Christina.Matthews.Zero.
Starting point is 00:13:54 And she's flipping houses and stuff. She already got sold, too. So we appreciate everything you guys do. She's making some money. That's what I love to hear. She's trying. We're all making money. So we appreciate you guys.
Starting point is 00:14:06 All right, man. All right, bye. I like to hear people flipping money in houses. Kurt. Yo, what's up, y'all? Good morning. Good morning. Now, Kurt, they say you're about to enter this ping pong tournament, Kurt.
Starting point is 00:14:17 What? Yeah, man. So my wife and I, man, we got a house. So we sent out some invites. It's like the first event of our new house. Invited some friends and family over. And ping pong tournament. And I know it's like a bracket style.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I know that it's going to be me versus her in like the finals. You know what I'm saying? I probably could beat both of y'all. I highly doubt it. Where you from? Where you from? I want her to know. I want her to know I'm practicing.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I mean, I'm practicing with her every day. I mean, so I'm getting better. You know, yesterday she beat me 4-0. I could definitely beat you both. Where y'all from? Where you from, man? How your wrist get so strong, bro? I'm from Detroit, man.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I'm from Detroit. You know, people going to know my voice. This is Kurt, you know what I'm saying? Cag Daddy. They ain't going to know your voice, bro. Cag Daddy. They're not going to know your voice, bro. Cag Daddy, man.
Starting point is 00:15:03 How your wrist got so strong, Cag Daddy? You know your voice, bro. Cat Daddy. They're not going to know your voice, bro. Cat Daddy, man. How your wrist got so strong, Cat Daddy? You know, man, every night. That's how you do it. You know what I'm saying? My guy. You know what I'm saying? Hey, sometimes you got to play with the D and the D. All right, keep that wrist strong.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Goodness gracious. Hello, who's this? Yo, what's up? This is Anonymous. I don't want to say my name because too many people know my name. Why do people call the radio station Anonymous? Nobody can see you. You can say your name is Jonathan.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Nobody would know. You can say you're Cat Daddy. Let's just call you Cat Daddy. Hi, Cat Daddy 2. What's up? Hold on. Nah, you and I know each other. You and I did this back in the day.
Starting point is 00:15:41 What y'all did back in the day? I used to do something on your show. You used to do something? What you used to do on the show? Man, listen, can I say what I want to say? Yes, you can. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Go, sir. Go. Go. Sorry. Listen, this is my issue. My problem is with all of the hair weaves. Everywhere I look, everywhere I turn, all I see is hair weaves. What's wrong with hair weaves?
Starting point is 00:16:03 It's too much. It's getting out of hand. And they don't even be looking good. So you have a problem with women using these accessories in their own hair? Yes, because I don't want to see it. I call it hair prosthetics. Me and my girl, we call it hair hats. Now, listen, you have to understand the reason why women wear weaves.
Starting point is 00:16:20 At times, it's a protective hairstyle. Sometimes, they're trying to grow out of style. Sometimes, they don't feel like styling and putting heat on their own hair. It's a protective hairstyle. Sometimes they're trying to grow out of style. Sometimes they don't feel like styling and putting heat on their own hair. There's a lot of reasons. I hear all that, but I'm sorry. A lot. If there's 100 women with weaves,
Starting point is 00:16:34 60 of them look bad. I think you care too much, bro. You're too invested. You got a girl. Why does it even matter? Unless your girl got nasty weaves. Charlamagne, I'm going to get you a weave. Oh, you want to see me in it?
Starting point is 00:16:46 See, I knew this was what this was about. You're tired of seeing women in weave. You want to see a man in one. You think I'm attractive. That's right. I get it. No, I think you butt ugly. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Oh, he's into butt ugly looking girls. All right. Okay. So you want me to wear a weave so I'll look better to you? Okay, yeah. I would like that. All right. Finally, I just want to get to some good truth here, brother.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I don't think he's going to do it. Hey, some good hard truth. Black men don't cheat. I don't know if you're going to do it. That's right. Listen, I don't cheat either. But listen, I want to say something, y'all. What y'all are doing for the people, what y'all are doing is so powerful.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Y'all are giving so many people exposure. Y'all are bringing a lot of light to a lot of issues. Angela Yee, if you look at the caller ID, you see my name. You know who I am. I'm very proud of you. I'm so proud of you. She just seen it. She says she don't know who you are, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:35 I don't have the caller ID right here, sir. Oh, that's all right. But I'll text you later. Woo! I'm doing y'all things. All right. No, it's not like that. Nah, you sound...
Starting point is 00:17:45 He is a classy lady. Okay. He's not a classy lady. He's a ratchet lady. Trav, what up, Trav? What's up, Envy? What's up? Trav!
Starting point is 00:17:57 What's up, bro? Trav did an excellent job last night at lip service. He works the crowd. Oh, I thought he was twerking. He did twerk a little as well. Okay. Yeah, just a little bit. Just a little bit. Oh, I thought he was charging. He did twerk a little as well. Okay. Just a little bit.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Just a little bit. Listen, I'm like 30 minutes from home. I am so tired. I'm about to go to sleep for this whole day. Yee, thank you so much for the opportunity. I had so much fun last night. Like, Stephanie, L'Oreal, Gigi, all y'all killed it. That was like the best live show that I've seen so far, y'all.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Yeah, you know, last night was really, really great. So I appreciate everybody who came out. It was pretty funny. You ain't going to speak to your bae? I was just about to say, where's Charlamagne at? What up, sis? Do you sleep on your stomach? Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Look, Charlamagne, I'm actually kind of mad at you. Okay. You know, every single time I come up there, I usually bring Charlamagne like a little treat. Because, yeah, we have so much in common. We both gay. We both cancer. But I bought Charlemagne
Starting point is 00:18:49 and we both Cowboys fans. And I bought Charlemagne a Sports Illustrated original 1996 magazine for after we won the Super Bowl. And guess where it's sitting at? Under his desk. It's in my hand right now, Trav. He does not even care. It's right in my hand right now.
Starting point is 00:19:06 That's so rude, Charlamagne. That's so rude, Charlamagne. Take it home and frame it. I am going to take it home and frame it, Trav. You're right, Trav. That's very, very unappreciative of him. You give him a nice, special, thoughtful gift like that. I just don't like to bring gifts like that home
Starting point is 00:19:20 because then I got to explain it. You know what I'm saying? My wife be like, who bought you that? And I be like, Trav, this man who thinks I'm it. You know what I'm saying? My wife be like, who bought you that? And I be like, Trav, this man who thinks I'm cute. You know what I'm saying? Y'all don't see what you're about. Alright, y'all. Bye, Trav. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:19:33 800-585-1051. And don't forget from Basketball Wives LA, Evelyn Lozada will be joining us next hour. Now, Eve, we got rumors on the way? Yes, we are going to talk about David Ortiz and now they are saying that he was really not the intended target of that shooting. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader
Starting point is 00:20:15 of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Well, why can't I trade my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God.
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Starting point is 00:22:58 It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Jaquez. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Jacquez. This is the rumor report with Angela Yee. Rumor has it. On The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:23:11 So listen up. What's his name, Emmy? Jacquez. Okay. You said Jacquez. I thought he said something about queefing. Well, Jacquez is not happy and he feels like he got snubbed by the BET Awards. You know those are going to be airing on Sunday. And they've already been released, the list of everybody who's been nominated.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Cardi B and Drake have seven nominations and five nominations, respectively. So here's what he had to say. Hold on, hold on, hold on. How in the **** am I not nominated for a DT award? I ain't gonna lie, I feel disrespected at this point. Like, maybe I gotta work harder. But how hard you gotta work when you nominate s*** that don't even... Never mind.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Did he put an album out last year? I don't remember. I think he did put out an album. Yeah, he was up here. Oh, he wasn't? Yes, he was. He came up here. Jack Wee's on Breakfast Club?
Starting point is 00:24:02 Yes. I forgot that one. I missed that whole thing. Maybe you weren't. Were you here? Probably not, because I don came up here. Jacquees was on Breakfast Club? Yes. I forgot that one. I missed that whole thing. Maybe you weren't. Were you here? Probably not, because I don't remember Jacquees being on no Breakfast Club. We talked about being the king of R&B, I think. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Shut up. Jacquees wasn't on no Breakfast Club. Yes, he was. He was? Yes. Oh, all right. Why are you so aggressive? Man, shut up.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I don't remember that. Yeah, he was here. Maybe I wasn't here. I'm sure I had something better to do that day. Do you think that he deserved to be nominated? Not if y'all can't even name his album. He would have been nominated in the Best Male R&B Pop Artist category where Addison Pack, Bruno Mars, Childish Gambino, Chris Brown,
Starting point is 00:24:32 John Legend, and Khalid. If y'all can't name what his album was last year, I don't think that he should have been nominated. He definitely should have been nominated. So what's the name of the album? I don't know. Which singer were you playing? You're the DJ.
Starting point is 00:24:41 In the club? I was playing a record from him. It was in the club? In the club. But the kids love him. He's a younger R&B singer. Who's in that category? I just told you. Anderson.Paak, Bruno Mars, Childish Gambino,
Starting point is 00:24:54 Chris Brown, John Legend, and Khalid. He should have replaced Childish Gambino because I don't consider Childish Gambino an R&B artist. Alright, so you agree though that he should have been nominated. I don't agree. I'm just going with what y'all said. Y'all said he was the king of R&B. y'all said the kids love him I did not say he was the king of R&B He said he was the king of R&B
Starting point is 00:25:10 You don't remember all the stuff that happened and he ran into Keith Sweat And him and Keith Sweat had a conversation, you don't remember? That I remember That don't mean that you should be nominated for a BET No, he should be nominated because he put out good records and the kids love him Oh, okay Alright, so anyway, he has a new album coming out. When was he on Breakfast Club again?
Starting point is 00:25:26 Round two. The exact date. You know what? Yeah, please look that up. All right, David Ortiz apparently was not the intended target of the shooting, according to officials in the Dominican Republic. They say that Sixto David Fernandez was the target because Victor Hugo Gomez believed that Sixto ratted him out to police years ago.
Starting point is 00:25:46 So they're saying that Sixto was allegedly sitting near David Ortiz at the Dow Bar and Lounge in Santo Domingo on June 9th. And he was the person that was supposed to be the target and not David Ortiz. So originally they said that's impossible. Everybody knows what David Ortiz looks like. There's no way that somebody would mistake him for someone else. But now they are saying that they do believe that he wasn't the intended target. Wrong place, wrong time. Yeah, and you wasn't here when he came back. Yeah, he was here six months ago.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Yeah, you wasn't here. I wasn't here. I wasn't here for the king of R&B. Space Jam 2. That is reportedly going to star people like Klay Thompson, Anthony Davis. We already know LeBron James is in it. Also key roles for Damian Lillard
Starting point is 00:26:30 and some WNBA stars as well. Diana Taurasi and Nika Ogwemiki. So get ready for that. So y'all excited? I think it's dope. They're going to have the NBA and WNBA stars. Alright, Janet Mock has become the first trans woman to score a deal with Netflix.
Starting point is 00:26:48 So congratulations to her. She's the first trans woman to actually get a situation like that. As a best-selling author, producer and director, Janet Mock has demonstrated she knows how to bring her vision to thrilling, vivid life. Okay, that should be interesting.
Starting point is 00:27:04 You got to tell your own stories. Now, Ava DuVernay is criticizing Donald Trump because of his dumbass comments. Now, if you remember, he talked to TMZ. Oh, no, it wasn't TMZ. If you remember,
Starting point is 00:27:16 they asked him what he thought about the When They See Us series, and if he... He would apologize. He would apologize to those five young men for ruining their lives and
Starting point is 00:27:25 helping ruin their lives when he took out that ad in the New York Times. And here's what he said. You apologized to the Central Park Five. They've been exonerated. There have been videos and movies shown about the case and you came out with a full page ad saying that they should die.
Starting point is 00:27:41 They said they should die. Why do you bring that question up now? It's an interesting time to bring it up. You have people on both sides of that. They think they're susceptible. Why do you bring that question up now? It's an interesting time to bring it up. You have people on both sides of that. They admitted their guilt. If you look at
Starting point is 00:27:50 Linda Fairstein and if you look at some of the prosecutors, they think that the city should never have settled that case. So we'll leave it at that. The hardest thing
Starting point is 00:28:00 for an old, rich, entitled white man to do is simply tuck their privilege away and admit they were wrong. They just can't do it. Yeah, I mean, rich, entitled white man to do is simply tuck their privilege away and admit they were wrong. They just can't do it. Yeah, I mean, look, they found DNA evidence. A person confessed to the crime.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And you still believe they did it because they were forced? Old, rich, entitled white men. They cannot tuck their privilege away for one second and humble thyself just to say, hey, I was wrong. Yeah, like I said yesterday, I don't know how he's still married because he doesn't apologize for anything. And you know in any marriage, the man always has to apologize. Well, here's what Ava DuVernay had to say, hey, I was wrong. Yeah, like I said yesterday, I don't know how he's still married because he doesn't apologize for anything. And you know in any marriage, the man always has to apologize. Well, here's what Ava DuVernay had to say. If I was starting off today,
Starting point is 00:28:30 I would love to be a well-educated black because I really believe they do have an actual advantage today. They want to kill my son. That devil wants to kill my son. That's from the movie. You're going to take an ad out? That's from when they see you. About killing my son. That's from the movie. You gonna take an ad out? That's from When They See Us.
Starting point is 00:28:45 About killing my son. That's not Ava. You're gonna have to come for me first. Y'all just put words in Ava's mouth? I don't understand it. They gonna kill my son. What that is. Y'all just took a scene from When They See Us and told everybody that. I don't know. I'm so confused. They gonna kill my son. What Ava DuVernay told
Starting point is 00:29:01 the Los Angeles Times was there's nothing he says or does. This show is trash. In relation to this case. Oh, don't try to clean it up now. Or the lives of black people or people of color that has any way to it. It's not our reality. There's no truth to it. I wish I had a more juicy sound bite, but I don't care. So she said she does not care. It's expected
Starting point is 00:29:18 for Donald Trump to say something like that. And in Donald Trump's defense when it comes to his wife, why would you apologize to Melania? What do you mean? All you gotta do is whenever she gets upset with you, hold that receipt over her head and say, Hey, I kept the receipt. I can send you back, all right? You're stupid. You're stupid. I'm Angela Yee, and that's your rumor report.
Starting point is 00:29:32 You're stupid. All right. When we come back, Front Page News, what are we talking about, Yee? We are going to talk about Joe Biden. He's defending comments that he made about segregationist senators. Another old, entitled white man who can't tuck his privilege away and admit when they wrong. All right, we'll get into this next.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ, MV, Anjali Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front-page news. Congratulations to CeCe Sabathia.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Yesterday, he got his 250th win, so congratulations to him. Also, tonight is the NBA draft, so we'll see what happens with the draft. The Knicks have the third pick, of course. Number one goes to the Pelicans, two the Grizzlies. And they're saying that CP3, Chris Paul, they're saying the Rockets tried
Starting point is 00:30:18 dumping Chris Paul to the Knicks. Why did they say dumping, though? They had to say dumping. They should have just traded it to the Knicks. Because the Knicks are where NBA players come to die. Watch your mouth. All right? Y'all might as well be a D-League team at this point. All jokes aside, seriously, that team is never going to prosper until James Dolan is absolutely gone.
Starting point is 00:30:34 He needs to sell that team, bring in a new owner, and then y'all will have new life in New York. It's really just that simple. It starts at the top with the Knicks. And rumor has it that the Pelicans and Grizzlies are not going to take Zion, and then they're going to go to the Knicks. And rumor has it that the Pelicans and Grizzlies are not going to take Zion and then they're going to go to the Knicks. See, that's the kind of dumbass logic that New York Knicks fans has that calls them the Photoshop players every year. Every year, it's a new crop of players that y'all Photoshop in Knicks jerseys. Say
Starting point is 00:30:53 they coming to the Knicks and it never happens. This year it was Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, Zion Williamson. Who y'all got out of those three? I can't wait. Until what? Until we get one of those players. You are? Okay. Alright, what else we got here? Well, let's talk about Joe Biden and Cory Booker. When I woke up late this morning, I saw a clip on the news of what was happening between the two of them.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Now, apparently Joe Biden is trying to defend his own remarks. He said he worked with segregationist senators. In particular, he was talking about Southern Democrats who oppose civil rights and desegregation. Racist bigots is who he worked with. Eastland of Mississippi and Herman Tomich of Georgia. And he said that they were civil, though. He said at least there was some civility. We got things done.
Starting point is 00:31:33 We didn't agree on much of anything. We got things done. He also said that I was in a caucus with James Eastland. He never called me boy. He always called me son. He also gave the eulogy at Scrum Thurman's funeral. Scrum Thurman was a diehard racist. All right. Well, here's what Cory Booker had to say about Joe Biden. Vice President Biden shouldn't need this lesson. And at a time when we have from the highest offices in the land, divisiveness, racial hatred and bigotry being spewed, he should
Starting point is 00:32:03 have the sensitivity to know that this is a time I need to be an ally. I need to be a healer. I need to not engage in usage of words that will harm folks. Now, Joe Biden's been trying to explain himself. He said, the point I'm making is you don't have to agree. You don't have to like the people in terms of their views, but you simply make the case and you beat them. You beat them without changing the system.
Starting point is 00:32:24 And here's what he said about Cory Booker. Cory should apologize. He knows better. There's not a racist bone in my body. I've been involved in civil rights my whole career. Period. Period. Period.
Starting point is 00:32:37 He quoted the city girls just to prove it. Joe Biden is right. Joe Biden is right about working with people across the aisle. But the thing is, he says things like Scrum Thurman was a great person. And he says that this other guy called him his son. It's a difference between working with somebody and it being business and it seeming very personal. And after that, Cody says, some of my best friends are black. He didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:32:57 He didn't say that. I'm kidding. I'm not mad at Joe Biden for not apologizing. There's plenty of people who I love. You apologize to me. There's plenty of people I love who people think are controversial. And if those are your guys, those are your guys.
Starting point is 00:33:07 If you don't feel like you should say sorry, cool. Because truth to the matter is black people are the only people who have to apologize for their associations and have to cancel our own.
Starting point is 00:33:14 They try to make us do that with Minister Farrakhan all the time, but that's another topic. But either way, people are going to hold you accountable for your association and that's what they're doing
Starting point is 00:33:20 to Joe Biden right now. Well, they also had the first congressional hearing on slavery reparations in a decade at Capitol Hill. And Danny Glover and Cory Booker testified. Here's Danny Glover. Justice for black people will not flow into society
Starting point is 00:33:33 merely from court decisions, nor from fountains of political oratory, nor will a few token changes quell all the temptuous yearnings of millions of disadvantaged black people. White America must recognize that justice for black people cannot be achieved without radical changes in the structure of our society. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Danny Glover is absolutely correct. Well, that is your front page news. All right. Now, when we come back from Basketball Wives LA, Evelyn Lozada will be joining us. Basketball Wives LA is on right now. It just started again last night. So we'll kick it with her. So don't move.
Starting point is 00:34:13 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. I thought she was up here before, but this is her first time.
Starting point is 00:34:28 This is my first time here. All right, we popping that cherry for Evelyn Lozada. Lozada, welcome. Evelyn Lozada is here, and you have so much going on right now. Yeah, life is crazy. I'm actually here in New York doing a book tour, promoting stuff, and actually getting some family time in. My grandpa is somewhere around here.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Is he outside? Oh, you can have him come in. Yeah, so my grandpa's here. I don't know if we went to our grandfather in here. Why not? Bring him in. He probably knows everything that's going on. My grandpa is awesome. You guys know, I just found my grandpa two years ago. Where'd you find him?
Starting point is 00:35:03 So, my mom, make a long story short my mom never knew her dad growing up we did ancestry started you know getting some hits with a Santiago family hired a private detective and we found him in Puerto Rico amazing was that did he know that no so the crazy thing is is um so we ended up contacting his sister's grandson and he was in Puerto Rico and he said that he was looking for my grandpa too because there was a disconnect in the family so we
Starting point is 00:35:32 ended up giving him the information of where you know my grandpa was and he went over there with a picture of my mom and he was like you know you have family members looking for you he knew that he had a child out there but he thought my mom was a boy. So for him to find out that my mom was a girl and we were looking for him,
Starting point is 00:35:50 he was excited and he was literally on a plane two days later. Did he know who you were? No. He had no clue. But my aunt, his daughter, she knew who I was. And then walking around with you, I'm sure he's like, whoa. Yeah, yeah. He's a little like, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:05 what's going on? You know, he lives in Puerto Rico, so things are a little different over there. Now, somebody in the room said that, how did they put it, Eddie? What'd they say? I couldn't look because I'm a married man. What did you say? She said, you worked out because your cheeks are sitting real nice. I'll take it. I'll take it, girl. I'm trying to hit the gym.
Starting point is 00:36:22 In between, you know, I can't look because I'm married, but she said, wow, her cheeks are sitting nice. She must work out a lot. Oh, thank you. I kept my head down. So what do you do to make sure your cheeks are sitting nice? I do squats. I do a lot of squats, you know.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I eat clean and I try to really, you know, live the healthiest lifestyle. I'm not out partying, drinking. I mean, nobody ever really sees me anymore. Anymore, right? You know, I have a five-year-old. I'm at home being a mom. So I mean, nobody ever really sees me anymore. Anymore, right? I have a five-year-old. I'm at home being a mom. So, you know, life has changed a little bit. I mean, like, I do the show and I come up for those things and to do things like this and then I go back and
Starting point is 00:36:54 let's get back into it. Can we talk about these things, too? Because she has a book out right now and she has Basketball Wives. The show is back. Why are you still doing the show, man? You know what? Because I love it. You like stress? You like anxiety?
Starting point is 00:37:07 No, and you know what? It is stressful. It is stressful, but really, it's like I love the fans of the show. I feel like because of Basketball Wives, I wouldn't be sitting here today with you guys. Right. Those cheeks wouldn't be sitting here. These cheeks would not be sitting here. And it's always love, and I'm able to kind of just, you know, I always come up with ideas and things,
Starting point is 00:37:29 like whether it's jewelry or whatever. And it always does well because, you know, I'm wearing it on the show. So, you know, I just use the opportunity. It benefits from it. Yeah. And, I mean, I love doing, you know, certain scenes with certain people. But, you know. Who are you cool with this year?
Starting point is 00:37:41 I'm cool with Shawnee. I'm really cool with Shawnee. Okay, with Shawnee. I'm cool with Kristen. Kristen I'm cool with Shawnee. I'm really cool with Shawnee. Okay, with Shawnee. I'm cool with Kristen. Kristen. Malaysia. Malaysia, okay. Jackie and I, we're cool.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Jackie. We're in a great place. Who else is there? There's a couple other people you're missing. Yeah, that's it. That's it. All right, now hold on. I want to go back, though, because this is Evelyn's first time here.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Yes. I knew you before you did Basketball Wives. You did. And you were for real, for real friends with Jennifer. That's actually how I know you. Yes. So you were in her wedding. You guys knew each other from back in the day, from being in Toronto, right? No, from being
Starting point is 00:38:14 in Boston. Oh, in Boston together. Yeah, Boston. Okay, so. That was f***ing each other now, huh? No, it's the relationship. Can we get to that, Envy? I'm sorry. Relax. The relationship is strained. You know what? We say it's like a toxic marriage. Can we get to that, Envy? I'm sorry. Relax. The relationship is strange. You know what? We say it's like a toxic marriage.
Starting point is 00:38:29 You know, it really is. But why? Y'all didn't have sex with the same man. We never had sex with the same man. So why is the problem? Because she was talking about Shanice. Yeah, so that's the real issue. Can we get to that? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:38 I want to start off. Shanice, your daughter. Yeah. Shanice is my daughter. Now, so this is all crazy to me Because I watched all of that unfold on the show Because sometimes it's hard for me to watch it Because I do know you guys were Best friends for quite some time
Starting point is 00:38:52 And we were in the Bahamas together Wedding together And so to see your friendship Deteriorate the way that it has After watching the show Do you think that perhaps the show Contributes to this? Because people are trying to come up with storylines.
Starting point is 00:39:07 There's things being said. You watch the show. You're like, when did that happen? This got edited a certain way. Do you feel like your friendship suffered because of it? I feel so. So last season, I genuinely wanted to work on my friendship with her because, you know, there was so much that had happened with Chad, whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:23 You know, so I'm like, I'm past it. You know, I wanted to work on the relationship with her. We had our scene on the beach. That was a real authentic thing. We cried and I was like, cool, whatever we said back in the day, it don't even matter. Like, you know, I love you and I care about you. So, you know, let's just keep doing this. So then that actually that was the season before last.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Then last season, it comes out that she was saying things about Shanice. So it was hard for me to process. What did she say, though? What did she say about Shanice? You know, she said, allegedly, she said that, you know, my daughter was a latchkey kid. For anybody that knows me, I don't care who I've dated, what I've done. Like, I'm a great mom. Like, I take care of my kids.
Starting point is 00:40:03 You know, from day one, I had my daughter pregnant, 16, had her at 17. So she'd been rocking with me from day one. So that to me was, it was hurtful because, you know, Jackie saying something about Shanice is,
Starting point is 00:40:14 it doesn't matter. She never met Shanice. Correct. But Jennifer, you just said, you were swimming with the dolphins. You're seven years old. You've been to birthday parties. So I'm kind of like,
Starting point is 00:40:22 I know we've been through some stuff, but even Tammy and I, we have never talked about each other's kids so that just really hurt my heart you still say alleged though well because I can't give too much away with this season but the truth comes out you know and it comes out from her so you know when she was up here I watched it and I said to myself okay I didn't know what the truth was still. But now in hindsight, I'm like, you know, you went on the show and you played the victim and you weren't truthful. You know, you know, she made she made comments about Malaysia while she was up here, called her a linebacker and whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:40:59 But meanwhile, Malaysia, Malaysia was speaking the truth. So it's like just say like, look, you know what? I was mad at you. I can't stand you. And I did say stuff about your daughter because I was speaking the truth. So it's like, just say like, look, you know what? I was mad at you. I couldn't stand you. And I did say stuff about your daughter because I was upset. I'll take that. But instead, you tried to cover it up. But because, you know, especially with this season, it comes up again. It comes up again because everybody knows, like, you're not being truthful.
Starting point is 00:41:21 So, and it's hard for me to move past that. Just how do you move? Not when you go out to kiss. This is what I'm saying. So I'm kind of like. Punch me, kick me. Not my kids, though. Not my kids.
Starting point is 00:41:31 And I feel like, you know, I love her to death. I don't wish her anything negative in life. You're better than me. But. Talk about my kids. Whatever happens, happens. Yeah. But, you know, when it comes to my baby, somebody that you've spent time with.
Starting point is 00:41:44 And Shanice is so innocent. She's been the topic of conversation for two seasons. Right. And it's like... She never apologized, never said sorry, never warmed up. She ended up texting her when we started filming this season, which is another thing. I'm like, you know, you could have reached out to her prior to filming.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Everything's not for the show. You felt like you didn't for the show. Everything's not for the show. You could have reached out to me after Amsterdam and been like, you know what, I want to talk to you one-to-one. Shanice, I'm sorry that your name is being thrown around like this. But that never happened. How hard is it for Shanice?
Starting point is 00:42:14 She's not even really on the show like that. And you know her. She's so like, I mean, she looks how she looks, but she's such a sweet soul. So she's just, I feel bad. And as her mom, I feel responsible because I'm the one that's on the show. You know, so it's not fair
Starting point is 00:42:30 to her. You know, it's like, why is she always the topic of conversation? Just because, you know, she's this beautiful girl that, you know, women want to hate on because that's all I can think of. Like, what else could it possibly all because you want to take a dig at me and that's really the way they know to get to you.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Yes. And, you know, look, all the therapy and all the yandlas in the world, like when it comes to my kids, I'm not, I'm not f***ing around. All right, we got more with Evelyn Lozada. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Good morning. Hey, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Evelyn Lozada. Are you and Tammy cool? No. See, you and Tammy, I don't know where,
Starting point is 00:43:10 because even from now, you have to be honest with her early on. And so you understood why she had an issue with you at first. Tell us, Yee. I don't remember. What was it? Just because she found out that you had been with her ex. Okay. I have something.
Starting point is 00:43:24 And you told her that after y'all were friends tell us names yeah i don't remember kenny kenny okay okay and so she felt like you should have told her that a lot earlier than you did right so so when she came on to the show um literally when we filmed that scene it would i i understand that part so when she approached me with it like well you should have told me that you messed around with Kenny. I was like, dang, they were married. I talked to this guy.
Starting point is 00:43:52 He didn't tell me he was married. So years later, because of the internet, she wasn't even with him. And I understand. I get the, we were chilling out. You should have told me you messed with my ex. I fully understand. But we only knew each other about a month at that point.
Starting point is 00:44:09 You know, so it wasn't like the whole season went by of basketball wives. And then it was like we had the reunion. Do you understand what I'm saying? So not, but I don't take that. That's fine. I was there that night randomly. You know, you were. I was there.
Starting point is 00:44:22 It was great. It was the non-motherfucking fact the night. Was it that night? I went, look, business. I was at the Bios with Kaiser and then we turn around and all of a sudden it's fighting going on and things being done and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:44:31 what just happened? It was a little something. Goodness gracious. It was a long time ago. She's an honorary basketball wife. She really was. It was a little something
Starting point is 00:44:38 but the whole time I'm feeling guilty. I'm like, I messed with this man and he was married. Come to find out, he was engaged to Tamika, somebody else, the mother of his son, which actually she should be the one that's upset because I didn't know he was with her either. So when she came onto the show,
Starting point is 00:44:54 I felt like she put it out to the world as if they were together and married, which he was with somebody else. But, you know, I'll I'll take I'll, you know, me not telling her. That's fine. I'll take that one. You think you guys after that ever felt you ever felt like that really was your friend after that? Like, no, never. No, I kind of just felt like this is show and we only see each other during the show. We never hung out outside of the show. It was just always a show thing. Like, I mean, you don't really see us, unless it was a basketball, wives were doing promotion. We've never hung out. Now, another big situation
Starting point is 00:45:28 that happened on the last season, you and Shaq. Oh, my God. The rumor was that you slept with Shaq. Yeah. And Shawnee found out about it
Starting point is 00:45:37 and no one had told her, but everybody, I guess, had been buzzing about it behind the scenes. Yep. So explain how that rumor came about and how you and Shawnee
Starting point is 00:45:44 I did not sleep with Shaq. Never slept with Shaq. I have been around Shaq probably twice in my life. One was at Shawnee's baby shower. The other one was when they won the championship. Never messed with Shaq. So what happened was is, well, this was the start of the problem. You know, Tammy and I, we were kind of okay, cool on the show.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I was like, okay, we're going to move past the bullshit. I don't have none against you. Comes out that Jennifer and Tammy are working, are actively trying to find receipts and expose on the show that I messed with Shaq. So when we did the scene that we're all sitting there,
Starting point is 00:46:20 it's looking like Shawnee's upset because she heard some things that could affect her life. And I'm thinking I'm good. You know, I know me and Shawnee are good. So when it comes out that Jennifer says, well, you know, whatever she said, you know, in that scene, I don't remember exactly. I see that part. You look surprised like it was.
Starting point is 00:46:38 It hit me like a ton of bricks because I'm like, I'm thinking I'm Gucci. I'm like me. That's my best friend. Like, we're cool. So, and I'm saying to myself, y'all are really this dirty. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, Jennifer, I hung out with you for years. You have never, you never heard of me talking to him on the phone.
Starting point is 00:46:59 So, why would you try to find receipts on something? She knows who I've talked to. So, that bothered me. So, then it's like it was just it how did that rumor even start i asked them you know ask them i have no idea i have no idea apparently wait jennifer said that some lawyer or somebody that she knows that miami told her or said it like, oh, I heard this. But my thing is to Jennifer, I rocked with you, hung out with you. We partied. You've never, not one time, could ever say, yeah, I think that, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:35 one time, you know, I was hanging with her and she was texting him. Do you understand what I'm saying? Right. That's crazy how people that could be your best friend could become like, and it's shocking to me because I'm like, girl, I aren't good but i'm not talking about your family i'm not you know trying to expose you for having an affair with this man that you know that could have ruined his relationship with shawnee affected you know they they co-parent very very well i'm trying to kiss her the other day yeah and he was there for father's day it's's like this is, it's taken time for them to become great co-parents.
Starting point is 00:48:08 So for you to try to expose something like this that's not true to the world could have not only affected my friendship with her, but their family dynamic. Like to me, it's not that deep. Like we do basketball-wise, but that's dirty. That's why I asked. You still want to do this after everything that's coming out? I know. Everybody in my life is like. It's only been 10 minutes and we got more to talk about. You still want to do this after everything that's coming out? I know. Everybody in my life is like.
Starting point is 00:48:25 It's only been 10 minutes and we got more to talk about. You still want to do that? I know. I know. I don't know. I don't know why. I'm so passionate. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:33 I know. Now, you've been married how many times? Twice? Once. Once. That one don't count, though. That one don't. It was brief.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I know. That one don't count now. But it feels like you still have some feelings for Ocho Cinco. Really? Why? I don't know. Because when people ask you still have some feelings for Ocho Cinco. Really? Why? I don't know. Because when people ask you questions like, which one of your exes would you say would come? But that was a true...
Starting point is 00:48:52 You know, like if I had to think about my three main exes and I said to myself, who would be the first one to come save me off of an island? I feel like it would be him. I think it would be Ocho. I think he still loves you. Yeah. I feel like it would because he fought, like he would be Ocho. I think he still loves you. Yeah, I feel like it would because he fought, like he wanted us
Starting point is 00:49:06 to get back together. And he did. And, you know, you couldn't get past that physical abuse. I could not get past it. You know, my daughter, you know, just her
Starting point is 00:49:16 coming to the hospital, her seeing me, it was humiliating. You know, her crying. And, you know, that's an image that I will never forget. So I was like, I got to get out of this.
Starting point is 00:49:28 But I still know that he would be probably the first one to get there. Not that Carl and Antoine would, but I just feel like he would be just a little bit more ahead. He'll be faster. He'll be a little faster. He probably runs faster. He probably runs faster than all of them at this point. Do you and Antoine ever speak still?
Starting point is 00:49:46 Yeah, we're cool. I'm cool with all my exes. You know, I'm usually not the cause of the breakup. You know what I mean? So I'm cool. What happened with Carl? Carl, you know, some things happen. He cheated.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Some things happen. He wasn't faithful. Yeah. I saw you answering questions on social media. You know, I know. Was it one time? Was it twice? It was once.
Starting point is 00:50:04 It was once that I know of. It was once that I know of. You know, I know. Was it one time? Was it twice? It was once. It was once that I know of. It was once that I know of, you know, but we have like a cool relationship. We co-parent. We don't have court stuff going on. So when somebody does you dirty, you out.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Like there is no forgiving. I'm gone. Well, Antoine, I dealt with a lot of stuff. You know, I'm young. You know, I'm living this life. You know, life has changed. You're having a great time.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Yeah, I went from the Bronx to wearing Gucci minks. Life has changed, you know? So it was like, you know i'm living this life you know life has changed having a great time yeah i went from the bronx to wearing gucci minks life has changed you know so it was like you know i was in vegas i left my job and i was working for a lawyer you know my it was a secretary as a yeah as an assistant yeah so i had left my job so life had changed you know what i'm saying but now it was none of that you ain't playing no games i'm playing no games. I just know I'm a good woman. You know, I get a bad rap because I've had three associations, but it's okay. You never cheated on any of your boyfriends?
Starting point is 00:50:51 Never cheated on any of them. Not one time. Not one time. All right, don't move. We got more with Evelyn Lozada when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Evelyn Lozada. Yee? So with Carl, I saw you and Tammy had a back and forth over her commenting on his post. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Right? And you felt like she was being thirsty or whatever. But understanding that she was supporting Meg Thee Stallion, do you feel like that's... I just feel like she should have been on Meg Thee Stallion's page. You know what I'm saying? It's not like Carl has 100,000 followers on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:51:30 He's active now and we could talk about the Meg Thee Stallion thing because when we had a conversation that he was going to start this record label, we were still together. I'm not going to lie. I kind of was like, here we go. An athlete trying to do something. Don't do it. I did. I thought that. of was like, oh, here we go. An athlete trying to do something.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Don't do it. I did. I thought that. And he was like, you're a hater. And, you know, so for me to see how good he's doing with it, like, I'm like, okay, I have to give you credit when credit is due. You got to eat crow now. I have to eat crow and I'm going to eat it because I want him to do good.
Starting point is 00:52:01 You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't hate on him. He does good. Kids are great. You know, like, he is very passionate about it. That was a big one. That was a big sign. People didn't even know their affiliation. You really don't.
Starting point is 00:52:11 And I thought it was some bulls**t. I did. You thought he was just trying to holler, this is a way for him to get more girls? I just was like, really? Because we were still together at the time. Did you meet Megan? I haven't met Megan because we broke up at this. By the time he started working with Megan, we were done. But prior to that, he's like, yeah, you know, I'm like, you're going to... Did you meet Megan? I haven't met Megan, because we broke up at the time he started working with Megan, we were done. But prior to that, he's like,
Starting point is 00:52:27 yeah, you know, I'm thinking about starting a record label. He retired, I'm like, oh. You throw that money away. Right on, here we go. Everybody's about to go broke, right? But he's doing really well, and I'm really, really proud of him. Would you get married again? I would. I feel like my first marriage, I was trying to get that shit annulled.
Starting point is 00:52:44 It didn't. I couldn't. I couldn't, but I would. I feel like my first marriage, I was trying to get that shit annulled. It didn't. I couldn't. You couldn't, okay. I couldn't. No, I couldn't, but I would get married. I love love. I'm a relationship type. I was with Twan for 10 years, married Chad and with Carl for four and a half years. So I'm a relationship type. Are you seeing somebody now?
Starting point is 00:52:59 No. You're not dating now? Oh, shit. It's about to go down. Not Rob Kardashian. That's where I was going to go. Hold on, we got to explain. I knew that was going to come up.
Starting point is 00:53:08 You want to quote it? Because if I quote it, it's going to sound a little funny. Okay. Yeah, you quote it. So, you said Rob Kardashian has a big sausage. She didn't say it like that. You say it again. This is how she do it.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Rob Kardashian has a big sausage. Wow. And he said, and you a squirter. Oh, my God. Wow. Sorry, Grandpa. I'm sorry. Sorry, Grandpa. Grandpa's probably like, what is going on? What is going on in here? So explain this. So that really started,
Starting point is 00:53:34 I've never, I have never seen his sausage. I've never seen his sausage. It just really started off as a bet. Like I was dead. What kind of bet is this? I was dead. I was dead. And I take dare seriously. I'm like, don't dare me because I'll tweet something crazy. So I wished him a high. I was dared. And I take dare seriously. I'm like, don't dare me because I'll tweet something crazy. So I wished him a happy... We're cool.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Never went on a date. I feel like he's an amazing father, you know? And I wished him a happy Father's Day. And I said, happy... Because, you know, I'm a little crazy. I said, happy Father's Day, big Rob. And he was like, oh, thank you. I bet you won't say that to the world.
Starting point is 00:54:01 I said, don't play with me because I would. And he was like, no, you won't. And then that's what ended up happening. So it was really just like a, you know... I bet you won't say that to the world. I said, don't play with me because I would. He was like, no, you won't. And then that's what ended up happening. So it was really just like a, you know, I took a bet too serious. But how did he know you're a squirter? No, that was a joke. That was a joke.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Okay, well, in real life, I'm not. No. Now let me ask you a question. I don't know. Not even once? No, I don't know how to do it. This is awkward. I'm going to human resources.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I don't know. I don't know. Why are you going to human resources? I don't know. Well, just so you know. Grandpa's about to go get a shot or something. Just so you know, Envy's a squirter, I heard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:29 I'm sure. I think so. I'm definitely going to. Grandpa, you ready? Let's go get a drink. Now, you know, you got robbed in the gym now. Because after that post, you know, Rob posted a picture that he's in the gym now. Oh, did he?
Starting point is 00:54:41 Yes. I am so happy. So would you give Rob a shot? I think Rob was in the gym. Would you give Rob a shot? I think Rob was in the gym. Would I give Rob a shot? I think Rob is a nice guy. I really, really do. I think Rob is a nice guy. I feel like he has... That's a f***ing way of turning somebody down. No. Would you give him a shot?
Starting point is 00:54:55 He's a nice guy. Yeah, there's a lot going on there. There's a lot that she's got to deal with. The whole family stuff. I like the family. I feel like the family's cool. They have haters. Until they turn on you. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:55:09 But I feel like I'm a good person, so that wouldn't happen. But I think he's a nice guy. I feel like he has potential for greatness. Okay. And I hope he really keeps kicking ass in the gym because I think he's a nice looking man. So if he gets in the gym and he next year he has an athlete's body because you like
Starting point is 00:55:27 athlete's body, athletic's body. I'm a little past that now. I'll take a little ball of belly. I'll take a little ball of belly. I'll take a little
Starting point is 00:55:35 ball of belly. So you know what, if Rob said let's go on a date you would give it a shot? I would go on a date with Rob. Okay, Rob. There you go. Send me something, Rob.
Starting point is 00:55:43 I'm setting you up. Look, you know, his mom is dating younger. He could date older. You know, everybody, you know. There you go. Send me something, Rob. I'm setting you up. Look, you know, his mom is dating younger. He could date older. You know, everybody, you know. There you go. Why not? Now, let's talk about your book.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Yes. All right, because you have a book out called The Perfect Date. Yeah. And it feels like some of this is Evelyn's date. The Perfect Date? You ain't found one yet. I know, but that's why it's fiction, and it's like a beach read. But there's some real, because there's a baseball player in there.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Well, when I started writing this for Holly, I wanted it to feel very authentic. So, you know, like she's Latina from the Bronx and, you know, she had a baby at a young age. Yup. You know, was going to nursing school. I was going to nursing school too. I thought I was going to be a nurse. I was going to Bronx Community College thinking, you know, this is what I was going to do for my life. So, you know, I want the book to feel, I wanted the book to feel very, you know, this is what I was going to do for my life. So, you know, I want the book to feel,
Starting point is 00:56:25 I wanted the book to feel very, you know, personal to my life. You know, obviously being in this world of sports, there's things that you deal with, there's things that you see. So be able to put these like stories in the book is always fun. So that's how it pretty much comes about. I see that it says that he pretended the baseball player wanted to settle down, but it was just all a lie. Is that based on reality?
Starting point is 00:56:48 Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. So you think Carl never had any intention of for real settling down? No, I think he did. I think he did. I feel like we had a good run, and then at some point, somewhere it went left, you know?
Starting point is 00:57:01 I mean, we never argued in our relationship. When I found out that something was off. How did you find out? A friend. Always a friend. A friend. Did you confirm it though?
Starting point is 00:57:12 Was it a male or female friend? I had a conversation with him and he admitted it. Oh, okay. Yeah, and he was straight up, you know, and he was like, you know, I'm sorry. You don't deserve this.
Starting point is 00:57:21 I had just did three cycles of IVF. We were getting married that summer. You know, planning a wedding, put the money down, and I just, it was done. It's hard for me to move forward from that.
Starting point is 00:57:32 And I'm older now. Like, I don't want to eat bulls**t, you know? It's like, I don't. You put up with that a lot more when you're younger. You do, you do, because you're young, but I'm mature now, and I know what I bring to the table. And you did three cycles
Starting point is 00:57:45 of IVF? I did three cycles of IVF. I had three miscarriages in a year. Oh my goodness. So, you know, after Leo, which was so shocking to me because I got pregnant from Leo. We planned him a month later, got pregnant. So then after that, kept getting pregnant and for some, you know, obviously I was
Starting point is 00:58:01 37, 38, considered high risk and I kept having miscarriages. So you really wanted, because you, I mean, you know, obviously I was 37, 38, considered high risk. And I kept having miscarriages. So you really wanted, because I mean, you had, your stomach must have been effed up from poking yourself all the time. Your ass was messed up from poking yourself. And then you're taking them pills every day. Like it's very, and it's very expensive. It's, I'm 20,000 each time. It was very, very pricey.
Starting point is 00:58:22 But we wanted to have another child together. Now the new season of Basketball Wives is on right now. Are you fighting this season? I got into it. You fought? Not fought,
Starting point is 00:58:33 but it got heated. It got really heated. Can you still fight? Right, really. I think I could throw a jab or two. I grew up in the Bronx. Right now you're at a point
Starting point is 00:58:44 where you're just throwing a fight no more. I don't. I really, we But yeah Right now you're at a point Where you're just Don't want to fight no more I don't I really really don't But you'll whip a bitch ass If you have to For my daughter For sure
Starting point is 00:58:52 I am looking forward To this season And I am really For real hoping Just cause I seen y'all together And I've known All the things That you guys have been through
Starting point is 00:59:00 And I get it Like friendships Go through things And I just want to say As a lesson for people When you're friends with somebody when y'all not friends for a period of time we should make sure that we don't talk
Starting point is 00:59:10 and tell each other's secrets to anybody because I'm sure it works both ways too. I agree. Because I'm sure you might have said things you regretted saying also. I told her to her face. Right. So in general that's a good lesson for people even if you were great friends with somebody y'all have a falling out,
Starting point is 00:59:25 let's not talk ish about each other because then it's going to make it hard when y'all become friends again. Yeah, I don't think because we did experience a lot of things throughout the years, no one can ever say to Jennifer, Evelyn told me this about you that you did when you were hanging out.
Starting point is 00:59:41 You understand what I'm saying? That you didn't say to her face yourself. No, I feel like when we were in Tahiti, I said something that I shouldn't have said just as a friend. We were having a heated argument back then. But I don't talk about her. I don't talk about things that she's done,
Starting point is 00:59:56 her business, who she done messed with. I'm not going to do that to you. Still, Shawnee can never say, Evelyn's talked to me about her. You know what I'm saying? So I was a little kind of a taken back by the things that happened. But it's okay.
Starting point is 01:00:08 I'm not angry. Right. You know, it is what it is. I do hope that we can get, you know, to a place where we're cool. Like, are you going to be around my kids? No. But, you know, we could be cordial.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Mm-hmm. You know. Okay. Well, thank you for joining us. Thank you. It's Evelyn Lozada. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hey, it's Evelyn Lozada. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Hey, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. Charlemagne Tha God, Angela Yee. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag.
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Starting point is 01:01:31 Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens.
Starting point is 01:02:05 So if you love hearing real inspiring stories from the people, you know, follow and admire, join me every week for post run high. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey. We're about to start Rumor Report. We're going to talk Dwayne Wade. It's about time. What's going on? Rumor Report. Rumor Report.
Starting point is 01:03:31 This is the Rumor Report. Talk to him. With Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Well, Dwayne Wade has a new interview in Variety, and he's talking about his son Zion. Now, I'm sure you guys all saw the pictures of him supporting his son at Miami Pride Parade earlier this year. And Gabrielle Union was there as well and other family members, too. Now, he said, I think he doesn't want to talk about it too much because it's Zion's story to tell.
Starting point is 01:03:55 He said, I think as a family, we should support each other. That's our job. And my job as a father is to facilitate their lives and support them and be behind them in whatever they want to do. I think people expect you to parent each kid the same. They are all different, and I have to get to know them and where they are. I have to say to most parents, get to know your kids. Don't put your wants and needs on them. I hate when people are forced to answer questions about their kids,
Starting point is 01:04:17 and I would like to know what the question was, because what kind of world do we live in when people have to ask a father why he's supporting his children? Yeah, and he goes on to say that he is very uneasy about accolades that comes from supporting his kids. Word! Or the negativity that comes from it. I'm doing what every parent has to do. You shouldn't get props for what you're supposed to do. Those are Negroes that, you know, some Negroes be saying, oh, I'm babysitting my kids.
Starting point is 01:04:43 No, bro, you're with your kids. That's how it's supposed to be. You're being a father. All right, Matthew Knowles, speaking of fathers, did an interview on the Clay Cane show and he talks about his daughter, Beyonce, and how he feels like the shade of her skin, the lighter skin that she has actually helped her.
Starting point is 01:04:59 How different do you think Beyonce's career would have been if she were a darker skinned woman? I think it would have affected her success. And I use Kelly Rowland as an example. But, you know, the great thing is Kelly did exceptional outside of America, especially in Australia. Kelly sold over four million records. She just got off script.
Starting point is 01:05:21 He also said that if you look back at Whitney Houston and her photos, they would make her lighter in those pictures. And he also said that he grew up with self-hatred, and he used to find lighter-skinned women more attractive. He said his mom used to say, don't ever bring no nappy-headed black girl to my house. He said in the deep south in the 50s, 60s, and 70s, the shade of your blackness was considered important. The only thing I don't like about that statement
Starting point is 01:05:42 is that it undermines Beyonce's talent. You know what I'm saying? Because you can think about all the other light-skinned women that have come and gone in this industry. They don't have Beyonce's talent. So it has to be a combination of the two. You still have to be talented. And I also think they asked him the question, do you think if she was darker skinned? And he was saying that because of people's perceptions and imagery of what beauty is, that did help her.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Yes, but we cannot act like Beyonce is not an out-of-this-world talent. Yeah, you have to have that, too. I guess he was saying Kelly Rowland was very talented, too, and he compared the two. I love Kelly Rowland. Kelly Rowland is a Godiva chocolate goddess. And very talented, so he's saying that... Come on. No. No. Not on Beyonce's level. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:06:19 That's a tough comparison because Beyonce has a different level of talent. Period. A whole different type of skill set. All right, now let's discuss Master P. He was talking to Page Six, and he said, we have to look to each other for expertise. He said, instead, we sign on the dotted line when a man you never met in a suit appears.
Starting point is 01:06:38 And, of course, and he said this up here before, if he has a deal for you, he wants to get paid, too. He gets his 10% for his time and efforts and relationships. But he said they tell him no, but if it's a guy in a suit, they sign right off. He said, if I was white, I think people would respect me more. People are not afraid to give those other cultures a percentage. That's true.
Starting point is 01:06:55 People think white ice is colder, and they want all the game from Master P for free. But when it comes to the consultation from a white man, they'll pay him. And just so you know, I Got the Hookup Part 2 is coming out on July 12th. All right, and ESPN says they have no plans to move forward with LeVar Ball anytime soon. There will be no LeVar Ball on any ESPN platform heading forward, at least as of now. Asked if Ball will be used as an on-air guest and on the record source for digital or a background source for ESPN.
Starting point is 01:07:22 And ESPN spokesperson said, we have no plans moving forward. That's whack. Last year, LaVar Ball was the belle of the ball. He was the drunk uncle at the picnic that everybody wanted to hear from. He was entertaining. Whether you loved him, you hated him, now you're banning him.
Starting point is 01:07:34 It's only because Lonzo Ball's not in LA no more. But you let Lonzo Ball go to New Orleans and ball out with Zion next year, I bet you they'll have LaVar Ball back on ESPN. All right, well, I'm Angela Yee, and that is your Rumor Report. Now Charlemagne, who you giving that donkey to? I need Mitch
Starting point is 01:07:50 McConnell to come to the front of the congregation. I like to have a little word with him. I like that. Alright, well coming up next we got Donkey of the Day. It's the Breakfast Club. It's time for Donkey of the Day. Donkeys of the Day, I'm Charlemagne. I'm a Democrat, so being Donkey of the Day is a little bit of a mixed one. So like a donkey.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Keyhole. Donkey of the Day. I've been told a lot in my 23 years that Donkey of the Day is a new one. Donkey of the Day for Thursday, June 20th, goes to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. Now, this presidential election cycle, a hot topic has been reparations for the African descendants of slaves. Reparations is not a difficult concept to grasp. It's simply
Starting point is 01:08:31 the making of amends for a wrong one is done by paying money to or otherwise helping those who have been wronged. The question is simple. Should the U.S. pay reparations to black Americans? Well, if the definition of reparations is making amends for a wrong one is done to someone, then absolutely.
Starting point is 01:08:46 There's nothing to debate. Unless, of course, you don't think black people were wronged and affected by slavery. Unless, of course, you don't think black people were wronged and affected by Jim Crow laws. Okay, the effects of those things are absolutely still felt today. In the U.S., twice as many black families
Starting point is 01:08:59 live in poverty than white ones. Black families are more than likely than any other race to live in poverty. Not to mention all the various U.S. corporations who have benefited financially from slavery. You got the Lehman Brothers and JPMorgan Chase, Wachovia. All those companies have released
Starting point is 01:09:13 formal apologies, by the way. Here's the thing. By the pure definition of reparations and in light of history where reparations have been paid out the victims of other cultures before, it's not a matter of if black people deserve reparations.
Starting point is 01:09:25 That answer is hell to F yeah. All right, the question should be, does the USA want to find a way to pay those reparations? That answer is a resounding hell no. All right, see, this has nothing to do with whether black descendants of slaves deserve reparations. Everyone knows we do, but the question should be, do they want to pay us?
Starting point is 01:09:43 The answer will always be no now mitch mcconnell was asked about reparations and he spoke for a lot of white people in government when he said what he said let's listen to what mitch mcconnell had to say about reparations yeah i don't think reparations for something that happened 150 years ago for whom none of us currently living are responsible is a good idea we've We've tried to deal with our original sin of slavery by fighting a civil war, by passing landmark civil rights legislation. We've elected an African-American president.
Starting point is 01:10:14 I think we're always a work in progress in this country, but no one currently alive was responsible for that. Let's discuss these comments. And keep in mind, I'm very dumb. All right. He said, I don't think reparations for something that happened 150 years ago when none of us currently living are responsible is a good idea. What Mitch is basically saying is there should be no consequences for people's past crimes. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:38 This is like saying if you committed a murder years ago and years later, people have the evidence against you and you are still in the statute of limitations to be prosecuted. You shouldn't be prosecuted. We should just let you go scot-free because it was years ago and years later people have the evidence against you and you are still in the statute of limitations to be prosecuted you shouldn't be prosecuted we should just let you go scot-free because it was years ago that's like saying somebody that took your land they don't have to give it back they can keep it forever and have seized it from you i mean not to mention you know slavery was 150 years ago okay but companies are still profiting off the backs and bloods of those slaves today and a large majority of the descendants of those slaves are still suffering from slavery. Mitch McConnell said, we've tried to deal
Starting point is 01:11:07 with our original sin of slavery by fighting a civil war. White people, y'all gotta stop telling that lie. All right, the civil war
Starting point is 01:11:12 was not fought over the moral issue of slavery, okay? It wasn't about slavery being right or wrong. It was the economics of slavery and political control
Starting point is 01:11:19 of that system that was central to that conflict. So stop acting all holier than thou like y'all went to war with owners and slave masters to rescue and free the slaves. Civil war was about politics,
Starting point is 01:11:28 not morals. And we've elected an African-American president. See, here's the thing that bothers me about what Mitch McConnell said and why he gets donkey of the day. Reparations, I repeat, is the making of amends for a wrong when it's done by paying money to or otherwise helping those who have been wronged.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Used in a sentence, the courts required a convicted offender to make financial reparation to his victim. Black people? Victims. White supremacists? The United States of America? Offenders. All these things good old boy Mitch are talking about, from the Civil War to passing landmark civil rights legislation to President
Starting point is 01:12:00 Barack Obama, none of that was compensation because none of that was given to us. Alright? Okay? Past landmark civil rights legislation. Mitch is acting like Martin Luther King Jr. in the civil rights movement just sat down and had a civil conversation with the United States government and
Starting point is 01:12:15 legislation was just passed. Like there was no marching, no billy clubs upside the head, no dogs got sicked on people, no hoses were sprayed on people, nobody got killed, nobody got hurt. It was just passed because it was the right thing to do. Same with the Civil War. It wasn't a war. Slavery just ended because it was the right
Starting point is 01:12:32 thing to do. And President Barack Obama, sure, he was just given to us. F that thing called voting. Now, unless, of course, Mitch McConnell is saying, look, even though y'all voted for him, we didn't have to let him through. We didn't have to let him become president. We could have stopped that. Alright? The moral of the story is, none of this was given. Alright?
Starting point is 01:12:47 It was fought for. Every single thing black people have got in this country, we have fought for. Period. Alright? Now look, I'm not the highest grade of weed in the dispensary. I'm not an expert at anything. I have my experiences. And my experiences tell me that in situations like this, defer to people who are way smarter than me, because
Starting point is 01:13:03 I may not be explaining it right. Alright? Well, yesterday, Ta-Nehisi Coates was on Capitol Hill and he replied to Mitch's comments. Let's let this brother bring this donkey home. We grant that Mr. McConnell was not alive for Appomattox, but he was alive for the electrocution of George Stinney. He was alive for the blinding of Isaac Woodward. He was alive to witness kleptocracy in his native Alabama and a regime premised on electoral theft. He was alive for the redlining of Chicago and the looting of black homeowners of some $4 billion. Victims of that plunder are very much alive today.
Starting point is 01:13:37 While emancipation deadbolted the door against the bandits of America, Jim Crow wedged the windows wide open. Look, man, it's simple. America systemically put black people in a bad situation, and now America systemically needs to do something to right that wrong. It's not calculus, people. I don't even know why I said that. I've never done calculus. Okay, I don't even know if it's hard or not.
Starting point is 01:13:59 But what I said stands. America systemically put black people in a bad situation, and America systemically needs to do something to right that wrong. The problem is, they simply don't want to. Please let Kathy Griffin handle my white work. Please give this giant jar of mayo the biggest, hee-haw.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Good morning, Ms. McConnell. Also, we need to stop waiting on America to come up with this reparations plan. I don't like leaving it in America's hands. I think people need to stop waiting on America to come up with this reparations plan. I don't like leaving it in America's hands. I think people need to come together and form a comprehensive plan of what they want with reparations and present it and say, this is what we want, not what are you going to do for us. I thought that's what they are doing, having all these different meetings and organizing to figure out what can be done. I have no idea. I'm dumb. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:14:44 All right. Well, I don't know. All right. Well, I can't wait to see this happen and come to fruition. Yes. Because it's been a big topic of conversation. All right. Well, thank you so much, Charlamagne, for that donkey of the day. I am here for that. Now, coming up next, we have Ask Ye. A lot of people always email in questions, and I know a lot of people try to get through on the phone lines.
Starting point is 01:15:02 You know what? I was talking to our friend who is a therapist that helps us out with ASCII, Dr. Jasper, and he was telling us about somebody, one of our listeners who actually called in. He was about to go to jail, and he wanted to commit suicide before that happened, and he has a great success story.
Starting point is 01:15:19 They've been in contact and actually are now working together. Oh. Yeah, so I can't wait for them to come up and tell that story. But if you need some help right now, call us up, 800-585-1051, and you can be on Ask Ye. All right, it's The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Get some real advice with Angela Ye.
Starting point is 01:15:42 It's Ask Ye. What's up, what's up? It's The Breakfast Club. I'm Angela Yee. That's Charlamagne. MV is gone from the building, and it's time for Ask Yee. 1-800-585-1051. Now we have Anonymous on the line.
Starting point is 01:15:55 What's up, Anonymous? Hello. What's up, honey? What's the problem this morning for Ask Yee? So I am trying to figure out when I should just go ahead and start the divorce process with my husband. Okay, what's going on? So I found out that he was cheating on Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, downloading apps I had no idea about.
Starting point is 01:16:19 And like a month before, he was like asking like, let's have a baby. Let's do this. Let's do that. And then, like, towards the end of the month, I found out he was cheating and talking to several different women. And once I found out, like, I approached him about it. Like, hey, what's going on? Talk to me. And then, like, it's almost July, and he's still doing whatever he wants. He doesn't care. Okay.
Starting point is 01:16:43 He doesn't care about our children. So there's no salvaging this, so you're ready to leave? I am ready to leave. It's just like he's making it seem like he just needs time and he's going through a lot, but he doesn't want to seek therapy. He just is not doing anything. And he wants to pretend everything's cool without actually committing to like being a father or being married okay so i'll say these things first of all make sure you get yourself
Starting point is 01:17:11 a good divorce lawyer make sure that you have everything in order on your end and you need to find out what it is that you need so that when you have a divorce they are so messy sometimes things happen that are unexpected obviously you never expected your husband to even act this way so you don't know what he might do when it comes to custody of the kids, when it comes to finances. Did y'all have a prenup? No, we didn't. Okay. So you need to find out what your options are and find out what you need to do right now to prepare for this.
Starting point is 01:17:37 So when it's time, bang, at least you have all your paperwork ready to go. And I will say that clearly you've given this man chances. Clearly he's, you know, being very selfish. He's not trying to seek help. I don't know what his issues are. But you've got to put yourself first. A lot of times we care more about what does this other person think? What is this going to do to your family? But it's really tearing
Starting point is 01:17:57 your family apart now, staying with him. So you think I should just go ahead and get a divorce? Or should I wait? I think you need to get your stuff in order. And I think you should definitely consult with a divorce lawyer so you know what your options are. So when it comes time, because it seems like he's not taking it seriously. He thinks that you're going to be there forever. And he's putting you at risk.
Starting point is 01:18:18 He's putting the family at risk. He's putting your health at risk. So I think you need to get your ducks in order so that you're financially ready, so that you're emotionally ready, so that you're legally ready to walk away. Now, if something amazing happens and you decide to stay, you can always do that,
Starting point is 01:18:34 but at least get your stuff together. Okay. All right? Thank you. All right, Anonymous. I'm sorry this is happening to you also. No, it's okay. Thank you. All right, so that is ASSE 800-585-1051.
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Starting point is 01:19:01 Eat the bread. What's up is ASK YE. If you need help, you can also email me, helpmeyee at gmail.com. Now we have another anonymous caller on the line. Now, what is your question for Ask Ye today? First off, I love you guys. Just wanted to get that out. Okay, we love you too, for sure.
Starting point is 01:19:19 So back when I was about six, my uncle, he was about probably 14 at the time. He molested me. He did certain things that he knows that, you know, wasn't right. And now I'm 27 and I have my own life going on. I have two sons.
Starting point is 01:19:40 I'm married. And he reached out to me recently and, you know, just tried to talk to me. I ignored the message he sent me. It was just a, hey, how are you type of thing. And I told nobody but only my wife. And now I kind of have anxiety and I get depressed easily now that, you know, he has reentered my life in a way. And I'm just kind of curious on what I should do.
Starting point is 01:20:06 If I should just flat out ignore him or reach out. Oh my God, this is a lot. And I don't want to give you wrong information, but I will say, have you sought help? I know you said the only person you've spoken to is your wife. But have you sought professional help? It's funny you said that. I started therapy not too long ago. but have you sought professional help? on in my life. My sons were in the room and I, it was just a lot. And immediately after that,
Starting point is 01:20:56 he set me up with therapy and I've kind of not been so anxious and have so much anxiety a lot more now, but it's just been a lot on my plate and him coming back into my life and just added to it. Have you ever confronted him about it? No, no. Like, ever since that happened, I moved, and that was it. I never had contact with him up until now. Okay, so I do want you to continue your therapy because I feel like that would be really beneficial to you because I feel like there's things you need to come to terms with yourself.
Starting point is 01:21:22 You know, to know that this is not your fault, to know that you didn't do anything wrong, to know that this person, even though he's a family member, is a predator and is a disgusting human being. Whatever the reasons are, you can't ever feel like there's an explanation for what he did. You can't ever feel like, okay, well, this happened to him. He was abused. No, it's still wrong. It's dead wrong. And I do feel like you have to keep on continuing
Starting point is 01:21:46 to get the help for yourself. Have you told anybody else in your family yet? No, I've been dying to tell my mom or my dad or anybody else, but I just, I haven't built the courage to talk to anyone now. So I just don't know. I would love for you to work through these things with your therapist and continue to do that, you know,
Starting point is 01:22:06 and then I think you are going to have to have the courage to let people know because you shouldn't be hiding this to protect him. You shouldn't be hiding this because you feel like it's something you're ashamed of because you didn't do anything wrong. Right. I keep telling myself I didn't do anything wrong. You did not. Someone's going to say you should have, you just didn't do enough.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Listen, nobody can say how they would react in a situation until it happens to them. And it's never an easy thing to deal with. Right. So I encourage you to continue to get to the help that you need. Talk to your therapist and figure out when is the right time for you to actually talk to your family members as well and get the support that you deserve. Okay. I'll go ahead and start making that step forward to do that. Alright. We love
Starting point is 01:22:54 you and we support you as well. Alright. Thank you so much. I love you guys again and you guys just have a great day today. And please make sure you follow up with me, okay? You can always email me as well so I can see how everything is going. And if you need help with the therapist, I know you have one already. We'll get your information and stay in contact.
Starting point is 01:23:13 All right. All right. Hold on the line. All right. That was Ask Yee. Gets deep on a goddamn Thursday. Yeah, man. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:23:21 That's awful. I hate that things like this happen to people. I hate that there's people who prey on innocent people like that. It's disgusting. A hundred percent. Now, we got your rumor report coming up, Yee. Yeah, we're going to talk about Trina. Her album is coming out tomorrow, The One, and she did lip service live last night, so
Starting point is 01:23:37 I love her so much. And she actually is name dropping. I know y'all might have heard that song, Baps, that she put out yesterday. Well, we're going to talk to her about some of those people names. About her exes, right? Yep. She didn't mention me, did she? You ain't dating no damn Trina. She's smarter than that. We all make mistakes.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Plus, black men don't cheat. We all make mistakes, right Trina? We'll talk about it when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? It's the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia.
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Starting point is 01:27:03 club. Charlemagne Tha God. Angela Yee is here. DJ Envy's at his daughter's kindergarten graduation. Yes, he is. But we're about to do Rumor Report. I almost forgot what we were talking about. Trina! Trina!
Starting point is 01:27:15 Why are you going to act like you forgot? Stop it. She's spilling the tea. This is the Rumor Report with Angela Yee On The Breakfast Club Alright well shout out to Trina Her album The One Comes out tomorrow And we got a little advanced copy
Starting point is 01:27:32 So we enjoyed it But I saw yesterday She put out this song That we're gonna be talking about It's called Baps It's her and Nicki Minaj And here's a little preview Because she is name dropping
Starting point is 01:27:41 Some of her exes on there Like ya This is for a French Montana Tory Lanez and friends Jay Hardy Here's a little preview because she is name dropping some of her exes on there. I can't believe she didn't mention me. No, you are not one of her exes. Okay. Trina's a smart girl. We all make mistakes. Drop one of those bombs for Trina.
Starting point is 01:28:04 So you're a mistake. I mean, a lot of women do think I'm a mistake. It happens. All right. Well, listen, Nicki Minaj also posted up
Starting point is 01:28:14 a preview of her new song, Megatron, that she's been teasing and it's got a little Hez High sample on it. Check it out. So that's going to be dropping at midnight tonight. I like it.
Starting point is 01:28:40 I know people don't like to focus on gender, man, but yo, the female rap game is booming right now. Yes, it really is. I mean, booming. You still got the OG veterans like Trina. You got the young veterans like Nicki. You got the newcomers like Cardi and Meg Thee Stallion and City Girls, Cash Doll. You still got the super lyricists like Rhapsody waiting in the wings. Rhapsody album is phenomenal.
Starting point is 01:29:01 There's a lot going on in the world of female hip-hop. Remy Ma is still active. Salute to all the women doing it. Even just looking at the people who were nominated for the BET Awards for the best women rappers. I didn't see it. Incredible category.
Starting point is 01:29:12 I know Cash Doll was nominated. Okay. Meg Thee Stallion. Meg Thee Stallion. Of course, Cardi B. Cardi B. Young Miami.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Lizzo. Lizzo. See, you know what's so interesting about that list? Think about all the years that we've seen that female rap list at BET. Sometimes it'd be three people on there. You'd be like, who is this girl?
Starting point is 01:29:29 I never heard of her. It's booming right now. It's booming. Business is booming in the female rap. All right, and let's talk about Chance the Rapper. He tried to do stand-up. It's not easy to do, and he hopped on stage at Laugh Factory, and his wife, he said, gassed him into doing three minutes.
Starting point is 01:29:44 There was a heckler as well but stand-up comedy is not easy listen the news was fake when I got an HDTV it's hard to trust somebody that you can see sweating if you want me to trust the news give it to me on a radio, you know, or that thing that flatlines, I trust both of those things. This is going great. Black people make some noise. Let's sit your dumb ass down, Chance.
Starting point is 01:30:16 I don't know why you're so busy trying to stand up on that stage. The only time you should be standing up on stage is when you're rapping. Stop disrespecting the crowd for comedy, man. I hate when people do that because I love stand-up comedy
Starting point is 01:30:22 and it's such an art. I hate when people just think they can do it. That's not something you can just go do. Well, I think he learned that lesson. Just like radio. You can't just do radio. You know what I'm saying? Stop it. Alright, now Cardi B, she is planning something huge for Culture's first birthday party.
Starting point is 01:30:38 That's going to be happening next month, July 10th. And of course, she's going to have a big blowout party. Here's what she had to say on her Instagram story. Coach, your birthday party, no lie. I'm spending about $400,000. Like, it's like, damn, $400,000 for a birthday party. But that's because this is her first birthday party.
Starting point is 01:30:54 And it costs. But after her first birthday party. I don't see the need. Well, she does. You know, that party's not for the baby. That's for everybody else. Exactly. And everybody else don't need a $400,000 party.
Starting point is 01:31:07 But they got it. Put that money away for the baby. My daughter is turning 11 next week, but we're having a party this Saturday. And I grew up Jehovah's Witness, so I'm not used to all of this stuff. The stuff that my wife and her got planned is so extravagant to me. And I'm like, why do you need a DJ? For the baby. Well, for your 11-year-old like, why do you need a DJ? You know what I mean? For the baby.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Well, for your 11-year-old, yeah, she definitely needs a DJ now. Come on. Nala. She definitely needs a DJ. Nala, if I don't pay you this Saturday,
Starting point is 01:31:32 you know why. Emmy could DJ. No, I got Nala DJing. DJ Nala Simone. Dropping the Clues Bond for Nala. She's close to the kid's age. She's right there with them.
Starting point is 01:31:43 Exactly. I love that. Actually, lip service last night. Shout out to DJ TJ. She's a female the kid's age. She's right there with them. Exactly. I love that. Actually, lip service last night. Shout out to DJ TJ. She's a female DJ as well. She just graduated college, and she's amazing. She's only 21 years old, and she did the whole show last night, and she rocked it. So shout out to DJ TJ.
Starting point is 01:31:56 I love my ladies. All right. Well, I'm Angela Yee, and that is your Rumor Report. Now, Envy's not here, but his People's Choice mix is up next. So you know what that means. How do you do that? You know what that means. Why don't you let me DJ? Ye mix. You know what that means.
Starting point is 01:32:10 That means that Envy has left another mix and he's going to be in the mix telling you to call up and request songs, but there's nobody here to take those requests. Just request the hits, guys. Here's what it is. Alright. The People's Choice mix up next. Oh, Revolt. Peace. See you later
Starting point is 01:32:25 It's The Breakfast Club Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy We are The Breakfast Club We got a special guest in the building He's the president of Wilberforce University Alfred Pinkert Welcome sir Good morning, thank you all
Starting point is 01:32:40 Now you gotta tell us about Wilberforce University I've never heard of it until today Wilberforce University is the first HBCU founded by people of African descent. Oh, tell us about it. I didn't know that. 1856. 1856 in the state of Ohio. And just imagine, 1856 was before the Emancipation Proclamation. And imagine a people who were enslaved having the audacity and the boldness to say, we can build and create an institution of higher learning.
Starting point is 01:33:09 And so Wilberforce University came together as a result of the AME Church and the Christian Methodist Episcopal Church in 1856 in Cincinnati. It moved to a spot in Ohio called Tawawa Springs, which was a place where Southerners would come to winter. And it was a place where the Underground Railroad was prominent in the city of Xenia. And the city of Xenia had the distinction of having a large number of people of African descent who were free. And so, Wilberforce came about as a result of this sort of bold experiment in terms of an institution of higher learning for people of African descent. It started with classical education. And so, when it opened, it opened with about 200 students,
Starting point is 01:33:57 many of whom were the mixed-race children of southern plantation owners who would come to Ohio. And unfortunately, because of the Civil War, the university closed in 1863 because the southern plantation owners could not sustain their children and also the war effort. At the closure, the members of the African Methodist Episcopal Church, the AME Church, as many of you are probably aware of, Daniel Payne said, let's open this school up for people of African descent. And so bought the mortgage and reopened Wilberforce in 1863. And at that time, he became the first African-American man to be the president of a university in the United States. So was this something that had to be done under the radar, kind of in secret, just because?
Starting point is 01:34:52 Okay. No, no, no. It was, again, there were white counterparts who were very much a part of the early opening of the university. That's not to say that there was not resistance, because when the school reopened in 1863, two years later, on the night that Abraham Lincoln was assassinated, in fact, one of its main buildings on campus was burned down.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Wow. We don't know to this day whether that was arson, but we have a suspicion that, in fact, it was. We haven't had too many presidents of HBCUs reach out to try to talk to some of the, you know, the people, our listeners about colleges and HBCUs. So, you know, we had a conversation maybe about a week ago about college and I was saying, I don't necessarily believe anymore that college is for everybody. And the reason I said that is I think a lot of times the curriculums are a little old, like back into the 1865s. And I think a lot of it needs to change. With a changing world, you know, there's not too many real estate classes and courses.
Starting point is 01:35:57 There might be one or two, you know, not too many coding classes, one or two, not too many entrepreneurship courses, one or two. I feel like a lot of times college is really pushing people to be workers, which is fine. But I think, especially in our community, we need to own more. We need to be owners and millionaires and billionaires. And I don't think that can necessarily happen if
Starting point is 01:36:17 we groom a lot of our kids to be workers. Well, President Alfred Pinkert, I would love to hear your thoughts on how important college is for young people. Well, I think that, and I appreciate your perspective on that. And while I agree with you that colleges need to be more nimble and more responsive to the economic needs of the nation, of our community, I do think because all of the indicators suggest that a college education positions one to have a particular kind of life, a particular kind of perspective about living. It does open doors in ways that sometimes are immeasurable, but it does open doors.
Starting point is 01:37:00 Right. One of the things that you've mentioned that we have spent the last couple of years at Wilberforce really sort of defining our value proposition, essentially saying, excuse me, what distinguishes Wilberforce, the Wilberforce University experience from all others? And what we've landed on is saying that we want to be a premier liberal arts institution. So we want to honor our liberal arts tradition with an entrepreneurial intention so that we are saying to young people, if you want to own a business, come to Wilberforce. We will introduce you to an entrepreneurial mindset. I love that. We will give you the tools and the aptitude to be able to own
Starting point is 01:37:43 your own business. So we hear you when you talk about the needs of the community. We have little known, we have a master's program at Wilberforce. This is a master's program in rehabilitation counseling. Now the reason why this particular program is important and we have intentions to grow this program is because the state of Ohio is a state that has a large number of opioid addiction and we want to train clinicians who are culturally sensitive to be able to go out and meet the needs of this particular population. That's a niche that speaks to what you to what a community need and to what we're
Starting point is 01:38:23 able to do in terms of developing. Got to fill the void, yep. Absolutely. The other program that we have is our degree completion program for the working adult. Many adults have started careers, they've been very successful in their careers, but somehow they want a degree because it's a personal aspiration of theirs, or they may be in a situation where they have been told that you can get further if you have a degree, we offer an opportunity for the working adult to come and
Starting point is 01:38:50 complete their education. Now, tuition is $13,000? About $13,000. Now, why is tuition so inexpensive at Wilberforce University? Well, that seems low. It is low because affordability, access and affordability has always and affordability, has always been two of the hallmarks of HBCUs. And that's with living on campus? That's with living on campus. Wow. Now, let me say this.
Starting point is 01:39:13 I don't want to hear my people say they can't afford college now. Now, that's an investment. $13,000, you can get a loan for that one. But for a lot of individuals, a lot of students who come, first generation students, that is a lot of money. It is. I'm always the first generation. And it challenges me and my
Starting point is 01:39:34 team in terms of running the institution. Which is why, again, we have this fundraising. You guys need a lot of donations. Tell us what about it. Absolutely. You can need a lot of donations. Tell us what about it. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:39:51 You can go to www.worldbeforceunited.com and you can donate directly. And when is your homecoming? We don't have a homecoming. You don't have a homecoming? Well, wait. We got to start one then, man. In November. In November. We just, wait. Everybody's going to start one. We got to start one then, man. DJ and DJ in this year. In November.
Starting point is 01:40:06 In November. Okay, we just made one. It's in November. Well, I know people, I know Wilberforceites, Wilberforceans are listening to me saying, what are you talking about? We do have a homecoming. Our major event that is very similar to homecoming in terms of energy and bringing people back is called Dawn Dance.
Starting point is 01:40:23 And that happens typically in the spring. Well, every volunteering to DJ. I'm going to come DJ. So we're going to hold him to that. Okay. Make sure you give us, make sure you give us that date in advance.
Starting point is 01:40:34 We'd love to have you all come. So we can make sure his schedule is clear. Absolutely. And then we will pull out at the last second. Thank you all. I'm coming, man. This is incredible. Thank you all so much.
Starting point is 01:40:41 You got me ready to go get my master's in Wilberforce. I'm telling you, come get that master's in rehabilitation counseling. That's absolutely. And for everybody out there, I know that you guys wear your Jordans, your Yeezys, your Gucci, your Louis Vuitton. All that stuff is expensive. But no, I don't wear that no more. All that stuff is expensive.
Starting point is 01:40:58 If you can afford all that, you can afford to go to Wilberforce University. Absolutely. So I can. And you can afford to donate. All right. Well, Absolutely. So I can. And you can afford to donate. Well, thank you for joining us. Oh, thank you all. This has been an incredible opportunity. Thank you. Alright, it's Alfred Pinkert. He's the president of Wilberforce University. It's the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:41:14 Good morning. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. Shalemita God, Angela Yee, DJ Envy left to go to his daughter's graduation. Which daughter is this? She's graduating from kindergarten. Kindergarten. Okay.
Starting point is 01:41:27 Well, salute. This is his 20th kindergarten graduation in only five years. So, you know, he's doing his thing. Yeah, he loves it. And salute to Joe Rogan, man. I was with Joe Rogan yesterday. I did the Joe Rogan podcast. So for all you Joe Rogan listeners, we're the latest episode.
Starting point is 01:41:42 Me and my man, Andrew Schultz, the brilliant idiot. So y'all go check that out. And I have a positive note for you. Okay. This positive note is from Jack Kornfield, okay? Jack Kornfield said, in the end, just three things matter. How well we have lived, how well we have loved, and how well we have learned to let go. I got a feeling some of y'all are having a very, very, very tough time with that let go part.
Starting point is 01:42:10 Today is the day for you to let go. God told me to tell you that. Breakfast club, bitches! Y'all finished or y'all done? Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine.
Starting point is 01:42:22 I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets.
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