The Breakfast Club - EXCLUSIVE: Salt of Salt N Pepa provides clarity to Loren LoRosa following The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Indiction + Wendy Williams does NOT have dementia?
Episode Date: November 11, 2025There are new reports that Wendy Williams, allegedly... does not have dementia! So is there hope for the conservatorship to be removed? Also, Salt N Pepa accept the influence award at the Rock N... Roll Hall of Fame and use this moment to highlight their struggle to wrestle their masters from the industry that has refused to play fair. Some people have discovered that you can still play certain songs that are allegedly being blocked by Universal Music Group.. Loren speaks to YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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So this story actually comes from TMZ.
TMZ just broke a story
that Wendy Williams has tested
with neurologists who say that she does not have
the frontal temporal dementia that has been the reason
why she has had to stay in this guardianship
that she says has her locked up in a luxury prison
which is what she calls the facility where she lives
where she's not able to go downstairs on our own
she doesn't have a phone to call out
she doesn't live a normal life now Wendy has always said
even in talking to me earlier on about these things that one of the things that bothers her the most
is that, you know, knowingly, when all of this conservatorship conversation started,
she knew she needed some help.
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You know, there was addiction she was battling.
But this was not the situation she wanted to end up in.
And at this point, she stuck.
So the significance of this testing is, I mean, it's everything.
It's huge if a judge looks at this the right way and we're going to get into it.
So according to reports, Wendy Williams underwent a ton of test in New York City recently with neurologists to check out her brain, the functioning, the, you know, her cognitive thinking and decision making and all of the things, right?
after she completed these tests
that neurologist last month
then gave the test to her legal team
her legal team took a look at the test
and they're like okay now we're going to use
these to submit these to the judge
and we're going to use these to ask the judge
to release her from the conservatorship
now these tests don't just come out of the blue
people have been trying to figure out what's going on
Wendy Williams we've seen her run around
I know I saw her in the New Yorker magazine
and she was out at Fashion Week
and she's been doing dinners and, you know, all the things.
She's had a bit more of a social life.
But we kind of lost track on what the conversation was around her health and her conservatorship
because we haven't been getting regular updates from her, to be honest with you.
But a while back, Joe Tocopina told, you know, me as her personal attorney,
that their plan was to do their own personal testing.
Now, this came around the time, her conservator Sabrina back in February.
had requested new medical testing because Wendy Williams, you know, was claiming she's in
this conservatorship, decisions are being made for her. This lawsuit is happening. And she doesn't
want it to happen. So they put a pause on everything. They put a pause on when I say this lawsuit.
They put a pause on the A&E lawsuit with Lifetime for the Where's Wendy Williams, Doc,
a ton of things. They said there's a lot happening. Her family wants her out of this conservatorship.
If she's able to make the decision, we don't want to do anything as conservators that will go against what she would want to actually do.
So the conservator said, hold on a minute.
Let's get some additional testing done.
That was back in February 2025.
The testing came back according to the conservator.
And I remember Wendy Williams, you know, attorney Joe Tecapina was pissed when I called him and I saw those test results.
And he was upset because he said that Wendy's HIPAA laws have been violated.
test results should not have been leaked to any media, to any press.
But those test results stated that according to the testing that Wendy's conservator
had requested Wendy Williams tested positive for the frontal temporal dementia.
During that time, Joe Takapina said that they were going, and he's always actually been saying this,
but he tripled down on it during that time when I spoke to him, saying that they were going to get their own independent testing done
because they wanted to rely on doctors that they felt like they could trust,
but also just doctors that would be more neutral.
They didn't want anyone appointed by the judge.
Here we have it.
Now, the testing is done.
Now, the plan is for the testing to go to the judge, as I mentioned.
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is that the judge is like, okay, we see the testing.
We're going to release her.
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request a trial by jury and allow, because he wants to allow jurors to be able to see Wendy
hear the back and forth from both sides and be able to make a decision. Now, here's my thing.
And again, I haven't, this story, like you guys are literally in the latest, just broke
moments ago. So I'll be doing a follow-up here on the latest with Lauren the Rose of the podcast
for all my lowriders and, of course, on the breakfast club because I plan to call Joe Tecapena.
I plan to call Sabrina Morrissey, who is Wendy Williams Guardian, her attorney.
as well and have a conversation about what will happen next because what I'm predicting
is that a judge is going to look at both test results and kind of be stuck because you have one
neurologist in, you know, hospital saying one thing indefinitely and then you have a team of
other neurologists saying another thing indefinitely. Where does that leave us? Where does the judge
go from here in that instance? So I'll come back with some answers for you guys.
Of course, y'all know, okay? I'm going to come back with the answers for you
guys, you know, but this is, it's a bit of an update. I think that this gives Wendy Williams team
some hope. I don't know, though, just as a person who's been following this and reporting this,
if in reading this, I got much hope. And the reason why I say that is because, again, you have
very sound, prestigious doctors on both sides saying two very different things. I think worst case
scenario that trial by jury would honestly be a better bet because I'm assuming at that point
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Now, in other news, so the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame went down last weekend in L.A. at the Peacock
Theater and, you know, two groups, legendary groups, a shout-out that got inducted in the Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame 2025, Saw and Peppa in Outcast. Now, Saw and Peppa, because both groups,
Once they were inducted, you had people who brought them out or who opened up their induction piece.
So for Salt and Pepper, Miss Elliott came on and she spoke a bit about just their influence and impact.
Let's take a listen.
So Pepper, Spinderella, y'all are one of the greatest teachers in hip-hop.
I thank y'all for teaching me that life is all about expression.
You only live once and you're not coming back.
so express yourself yeah and then saw and peppa and dj spinderella came out they also spoke there were performances
as well which they participated in a herbie lovebuck who is you know their famed manager and you know all
the things was also there with them as well too but sought spoke and spoke out again against universal
music group who they are currently in a very high-stake legal battle against trying to own the rights to their music
let's take a listen.
When we came up, the industry was different.
We didn't have streaming, we didn't have social media.
We had cassette tapes, turntables, and dreams.
But even back then, we had to fight to be heard and to prove our worth.
We're in a fight right now for our masters that rightfully belonged to us.
After 40 years, as we celebrate this moment, fans can't even stream our music.
It's been taken down from all streaming platforms
because the industry still doesn't want to play fair.
Thank you.
Salt and Pepper have never been afraid of a fight.
This is the Influence Award.
We have to keep using our influence
until the industry honors creativity
the way the audience does with love, respect, and fairness.
Now, the issue here that, you know,
salt and pepper are claiming is that
there's a law that basically says after a certain amount of years you can go back and request
to own the rights to certain, you know, works that you've done. And they've done and completed everything
they're supposed to do and went back to do that. And the record label was telling them no.
Now, during her speech, you guys heard her say that there are still music not available
across streaming platforms because that is what was happening in the early stages of the lawsuit.
Still is happening. But when I did this story on the Breakfast Club,
and naturally, even online, when this speech aired, people had questions.
There were a lot of people who were asking, hey, we can listen to these songs.
So does that mean the lawsuit is over?
So I reached out to Salt of Salt and Pepper and her attorney sent a statement clarifying
that these songs are not still available in a way that would allow Salt and Pepper
and Spinderella to be benefiting off of this music.
So the attorney's statement says,
Our first three official albums, hot, cool, and vicious, assault with a deadly pepper, and Black's Magic, and the master recordings contained on them, were pulled off streaming and social media in the U.S. as those are the master recordings that reverted.
She's talking about that, would have reverted back to them after, I believe it's a 35-year mark.
Then they continue, the albums very necessary and brand new, and the masters embodied on the albums are still available because they don't qualify for termination rights.
yet based off of copyright law
and she quotes a law from like
1967 which is that law
that I mentioned after 35 years of the release
of the applicable album slash masters
certain things revert back to the artist
she says it's all about when the recording was released
so any remastered recordings from the first
three albums that were released
later weren't necessarily pulled
down as they aren't subject determination
rights yet but they will
all be soon so there is
certain music that you can go on and listen and
according to Salt and their attorney, it's because they're not up for termination rights,
which means that it would be terminated from, according to Salt and her attorney,
it would be terminated from whichever contract and then reverted back to the artist.
But they're claiming and they're alleging that the minute that they do hit that timeline,
we're going to see a label allegedly pulled them from streaming platforms.
Then it continues.
Regardless, Universal Music Group is not even licensing or promoting any of our music,
even songs from very necessary and brand new that aren't yet up for revision.
And what I also realized, too, because when I set it in the room on the breakfast club,
I didn't even say, I'm sorry, when I saw it set it in her speech instantly in the room on the
breakfast club.
And again, this is also, too, what I saw people go to do on social.
People went to go try and find the music.
And you are able to listen to certain songs.
Like I know certain songs like Shoop or let's talk about sex.
you can listen to those songs but they're either on mixes that don't come from the original albums
or they're on like best of projects which were put together and again don't come from the original albums
which is what she's basically trying to say so wanted to clear that up there a little bit for people
I hope that cleared that up for you guys a bit right from the words of salt of salt and pepper
because basically this battle is still very real and very prevalent for them it is
at the front of their focus from what I've been told.
And another thing that was mentioned to me in this conversation as well was just like,
you know, people quickly instantly say, why didn't they read their contract?
And what they're fighting for is not a fix because they didn't read their contract.
They're fighting according to Saul and Pepper.
Saw and Pepper, they're fighting for what their contract said.
They're alleging that the contract tells them things revert at a certain time.
Universal Music Group is alleging that that is not.
not true in that universal music group, however, is countering their claims.
So there's this whole back and forth.
And I think it's so unfortunate you get to a point in your career, if you're a salt and pepper
where your music has influenced so many different generations, so many different people.
You're being honored at the, you know, rock and roll hall of fame amongst greats.
And rightfully so, you use it as a moment to call out what you believe is the injustice that is
you know, allegedly happening to you and your bandmates or your groupmates.
But how unfortunate is that?
I saw reports about various outcast music and, you know, songs and albums.
The streams skyrocketing because of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, you know, ceremony.
And the amount of people that were watching that ceremony that then went to go listen to the music.
And certain things you're not able to do when it comes to Salt and Pep.
But that is so unfortunate.
it. I hate to see. I hope they figure that out. I really hope they figure that out. I hope that
whatever injustice, you know, that they believe has been done to them is right. It's written right
in the book of all things, you know, music, because they deserve it. They've worked hard.
They've carved and they've been through a lot to get here as well. They deserve to be able to
sit back, make money off of the art that they've created and just enjoy being legends and
icons and not having to see um i'm i'm gonna say our elders and it's not an age thing it's more
of like a you know they're iconic i hate to see iconic people are icons out here having a fight
for what is theirs or just struggle in life at all after you work so hard and literally the backs
of certain industries are on your work i just think that it should be like yeah you're you're coming
home uh for you to be able to just sit back kick your feet up and enjoy
You know, so wishing that, you know, those ladies saw and pepper that they get to that point and that this is settled.
That is it, folks.
Again, you guys could be anywhere with anybody listening or talking about all of the things,
but you guys choose to be right here with me, my low riders.
I appreciate you guys.
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