The Breakfast Club - Fat Joe On Getting Robbed By Accountants, Using The N-Word, BET Hip Hop Awards + More

Episode Date: October 4, 2022

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that's an understatement right icon icon yeah yeah yeah ladies and gentlemen welcome i'm trying to say if angela yee announced she's not here no more, what is the girl doing here? You don't want to leave. Trust me, I want to leave. No, you got to stop. I mean, you made her cry and all that. What is this?

You wanted attention or something? Why is she still doing this? The family member just won't go. No, it's like when a player announces their retirement, they get the victory lap for the rest of the season. She did it. You're right, Joe. You know what?

Y'all, Angela, I think I want your job, Angela. I want your job. Oh, that would be amazing. Could I be a third member of the Breakfast Club? I'm sure that you've gotten offered a million radio shows already, Joe. No, not the right one. Not the right one. Ah! Not the right one. Because Remy's already joining,

so the two of you together. Who? The Breakfast Club. Yeah, they say Remy, that's the rumor. They say Remy's joining us. Oh, that'd be incredible. I did not hear that.

Imagine both of them. I swear, if I'm not pleased, then get me off the list. I don't want shots fired. And then after that... She's going to be like, what? You trying to take my spot?

Like, yo, trust me. It's hard having a sister like that. I might need a little theme all the way up or something. Way up with Angela Yee. Way up with Angela Yee. I got you, man. But I'm just like, I thought we cried. It was a moment, right?

And now you're still here. Just a minute. You know what? I was supposed to be gone this month. But I think with the holidays coming up, they were like, let's just wait till January. Yes. It's like my guy, JB. He runs the holidays coming up, they were like, let's just wait till January. It's like my guy JB. He runs the UpNYC. He's the manager.

He complains all week when he got a day off. He's at the store. I'm like, yo, bro. Can you go to strip club or something? I used to cut school and still go to school. That didn't make no sense. You just go hang out. That's crazy, man. What's going on? BET Hip Hop Awards. Tonight. The Hip Hop Awards, BET, 9 p.m. You just go hang out That's crazy man What's going on BET Tonight

Tonight The Hip Hop Awards BET 9pm We got the host Fat Joe right here with us So how was hosting that show Did you get nervous at all

I asked you before Alright Now I'm gonna be honest with you Yes Right I was never nervous Even when you asked me that question Right

And I don't get nervous You asked me that Fuck You asked me that question right and i don't get nervous you ask me that you asked me that question envy right and i was never nervous i rehearsed all week when they said and your host fat yo i felt like somebody kicked me in the chest my whole breath i never even felt this before i never even knew what this feel like i started breathing like like it was when they said and the host and i knew what was going on because we rehearsed it so much i was like oh i felt like somebody kicked me in my chest i had that you know that was it that was just that one second once i turned around it was like i we here now but i i was not nervous for uh you't. You've been on stage your whole life.

I know, but when they go in host, it's a different type of thing. It's a different lane, too. Huh? Yeah, I mean, I felt at home, you know what I'm saying? Even more than I should. Like, it was just so comfortable. You know, all the artists are my family. You didn't let Jim Jones in.

Huh? You didn't let Jim Jones in. I would never do nothing. Jim Jones hit me up and said, he said something with the COVID test. COVID protocol. Oh, it was a COVID test. COVID protocol.

They tested me twice a day. Right. They were coming to my hotel in the morning, testing me. Then I get the test. It was just that, you know what I really asked them when I walked in there,

I said, now, going in, they was testing me. I was like, what if I got COVID? Who's the back of the house? You don't have a host? No. Like, why are you going to do it to yourself? It's almost like, you know,

I'm like, yo, don't even, don't let me get caught now. You know, and then I was so professional because, you know, me and my wife, you know, we love a Mary concert. We go to 20 a year. Mary was the night before the awards, so I had to fight myself to stay in the room. Oh, just to get rest. Just get rest.

Don't go to Mary because you know, man, go Mary. You up there. There's no way around it. You're going to sing. You're going to lose your voice. Natina was on my ass Natina you gotta stop your Natina was like nah I don't want you

to go nowhere this this that but she'll slip in you know Jeezy got a little dinner like no you can pop in you can pop in if you want

you gotta stop so how did you get the call how did BET reach out to you saying we want Jill to call oh man this was sickness man it was crazy I was in my office in the crib

and I got a phone call from Connie. What's up, Connie? What's up, girl? What up, Connie? And so she called me, and she was like, are you sitting down? I said, yes. She was like, am I speaking to the host of this year's Hip Hop BET Award? I was like, ah!

Start running around. You know, some things get you excited. I have never been happier in years than doing this BET Hip Hop Awards. And I put up a prayer yesterday, right? Because I never prayed. For some reason, I could be the biggest pastor in the world. When I'm alone, I pray, pray. Like, I get down, right?

You mean you never prayed openly? Out to the people. But that moment, I just felt it was just so like Natural some I told rich my brother rich. I said yo rich the barber I said yo rich turn the camera on let's give him one, you know what I'm saying? But that's how I felt it was just so amazing. You know, I've been in the hip-hop game my whole entire life Mm-hmm. So somebody asked me one of my boys actually that what you gonna give him my son

I'll give him a little X clan. I going to give him a little X-Clan. I'm going to give him a little P.E. I'm going to give him a little Dougie Fresh. I'm going to give him a little Fabio Foran, a little TJ, a little Kodak. Like all these years of hip-hop culture, you know what I'm saying? We've been absorbing it for so much that I'm like, yo, we're going to give him everything. You know what I'm saying? It was, man, it was a tremendous experience for me.

And I got to show off and wear every fly outfit I wanted. Nah, that's too much. You can't give me that. Now you got to stop. How does the world look to you, Fat Joe? And what I mean by that is, man, you see you filling in for Wendy. You see you on Drew Barrymore doing yoga and now you're

hosting the BET Awards. Coming from the extremes you came from to that. You got a whole TV show coming about your life and books and everything. But that's, I understand. I'm talking about just kind of like the mainstream embrace of Fat Joe. How does that work? Fat Joe's pretty mainstream. You know what I'm saying?

We like to keep it black and brown all the time. But the truth is white people, they love Fat Joe too. They love what's love they love you know you know they i'm one of the most recognizable faces in hip-hop globally um anywhere like there's nothing you guys i could tell you one time i went to morocco and i got in the thing and i don't want to stereotype nobody but they just drove in the desert, kept driving for like an hour. I said, oh, shit, they got me. The Taliban. The Taliban got me.

I said, I really thought I was getting kidnapped. And they just kept riding into the desert, riding into the desert. I was like, it was nothing but camels and shit. I was like, oh, fucking Taliban, right? I thought they got me. They pull up into this hotel. It was like literally an oasis. In the middle of nowhere, like two hours into the desert,

we go up in there. I'm like, oh, shit, this fly. There was two white girls suntanning by the pool. The whole shit was empty. It was two white girls. White girl turned around. She was like, oh, that's Fat Joe. Hey.

And turned back around. I said, damn, you famous, man. You just thought you was getting kidnapped by a child, man. Out of nowhere way a white girl turned around and she's like oh fat joe how are you this i said damn you famous you know i'm saying so you know i've always been like a mainstream and behind the scenes you know i'm a family man i'm a great person people know me we get along you know it's know, that's who I am realistically. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, we always like to keep it uplifting our people,

but we really offer everybody. And if you keep your ears open, you'll always hear a new Fat Joe story. I heard a new Fat Joe story recently. I overheard some people talking, and they said that, did you help to discover Daddy Yankee or something like that? No, I wouldn't say that. They got really mad at me with that story. Daddy Yankee, first of all, it was the first drink champs.

And so people ain't understand what a podcast is. Podcasting is almost like gossiping. But if you say the truth and you get the facts, then it is what it is. But Daddy Yankee used to be up here in the Bronx, and he used to be running down on us like crazy. We had Jimmy's Bronx Cafe on Smash. So he would be running down on us, and he'd be like, yo, yo, yo, you know what I'm saying?

He'd be like, yo, you the leader, you the leader. He was following us everywhere. You watch the Big Pun 100% video. The first time I went to Puerto Rico out there, we went to Puerto Rico because I was scared to fly. So the first time I went to Puerto Rico, he was with us every second of the day. Look, man, you know, this is before Reggaeton blew up.

And so the wild story I told that was crazy was that, you know, I always liked this guy. Like, I've always had love for him. And then when he put out his record and he blew up, the guy Selena, I was so happy for him from far away. I didn't see him. And then Leanback's number one in America. So they both coming up.

And then I finally got to see him in Madison Square Garden. And when I seen him, I was so happy to see him the man turned around like he never met me in his life Wow, he turned around was like Acting like boom I was like no Way, I can't believe this guy know this guy ten years Coming to every show we got everything we did, you know, it was it was a very big disappointment You know I'm saying so, you know every time I see him it's like cool, but everything we did, you know, it was a very big disappointment. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, every time I see him, it's like, cool, but it's like, you know, yeah.

Never the same. Yeah, it's not the same. It's not, you know what I'm saying? We don't condone that. And what's going on with your accountant picking? Man, I wouldn't tell you it's my accountant picking because the BDO, the accountants we're talking about, they're everybody's accountant. So it ain't just me. It's like we talking about, they're everybody's accountant. So it ain't just me. It's like, you know, they're everybody's accountant.

They're the biggest accountants. So what happens is us as creatives, you know, we spend so much time. We doing books. We doing TV shows. We doing shows. We doing running businesses. We trying to take our creativity to another level I mean we think we're supposed to trust these people and so what I could tell

everybody out there every athlete it really mostly because your business man you probably most likely watching every athlete every artist don't trust them don't trust the business manager don't trust the accountants because we trust them to keep our family safe. And the saddest thing is when you turn around and you trust these people and you turn around and say, yo, these people stealing from me. Ponzi scheme. Like, this is not a game. Like, these people really stealing my money,

taking fake credit cards under my wife's name, going to the ATM every day, pulling out cash in the building they work in, and robbing other baseball players. They were Ponzi schemes. How do you protect yourself from that? The way you protect yourself is, unfortunately, you got to go to Oprah 101, watch all your money. There's no way around it. Right now, since I caught this, I've been signing my own checks, confirming my own wires, doing everything.

And it's crazy because it's a lot more stressful. Big Rich is in on that too. And I hate that. I hate to think about money. The way Fat Joe do it is I just work, work, work, work, work, too. And I hate that. I hate to think about money. The way Fat Joe do it is I just work, work, work, work, work, and know I'm making money. Y'all, I'm making money.

I know what this is. I know what this is. I don't want to watch every single thing my wife buys, my daughter buys. You know, I don't like that. Right? That's stress. So we trust these people and turn around. They robbing us in every corner. Like, corner it's incredible and we try to go to them

I never sued nobody in my life you know how many people robbed from me you know how many people stole my songs and did lean back a hundred lean with it rock with it you know everybody could have been sued like for all these you know what I'm saying I never sued a person

in my life but this was it. And this is a wake-up call, not just for Fat Joe, because BDO did what they did. We talked to them and was like, yo, look, you're stealing. Like, we showing, and these are people you trust. They were paying. Do your taxes. The assistant was paying her daughter's tuition.

Come on. Her daughter's tuition. Like, this is out of control. How did you catch him? It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. My crib, the mortgage company told me

it's the same shit that happened to me before. I went to jail for something. That's what I was asking. It's the same fucking play, bro. It's unbelievable. You had to think somebody was punking you.

Fucking play. They called me. Yeah, I think somebody was punking you. Fucking play, they called me. Yeah, I thought it was punk. I walked out like... I'm making money. I don't know if you understand that, right? Like, I'm on fire. Like, there's just no way around it. No, I'm being honest. No, no.

I'm being honest. It's true. I'm like a motherfucking race car. All you cigarette diss cigarette I'm getting it right so when the when the mortgage company called me

and they like hey uh you're late on your payment I'm like this is impossible it must be a mistake so when they send me this stuff

that we missed payments we late I'm like I got a weird feeling in my stomach and I said damn this feel like last time. But I thought, ain't we smarter? Ain't we more advanced?

And so I don't want to drop names, but the biggest artists and ballplayers and everybody you know is signed to the same accountant, BDO. So, I mean, with tons of billionaires that I know got their money there. So I'm like, no way. We can't get robbed. And then we start looking at it. We see this, we see this, we see this,

we see this, we see this, we see this. I'm like, oh my God. And so what happens is, listen, artists, listen, from the young ones to the old ones, Fat Joe's no dummy. If it happens to Fat Joe, please, this should be an all-out alert, not just BDO.

Everybody who has an accountant in the game need to check and get a forensic accountant to check your money, because these people start thinking your money's their money. Like, I start thinking about the woman the woman's at. My daughter's sweet 16, right?

And I'm thinking about, if she's a real crook, which she is, right? She's sitting down. She's probably sitting there with her husband like, you believe this guy spent all our money in this party? You believe this guy spent all our money in this party? God damn! And it's so

crazy because you're working to secure your family and the people who are supposed to protect you are robbing you. This is the second time this happened to me. Like, same play. So what happens to them now? Well, we had to sue them, and we didn't want to do it, but we sued them and say, hey, look, we're showing you 10, 15 different examples

with proof that your people are right. We was paying with my credit card, hundreds of thousands on baseball players. It's a Ponzi scheme. Rob P didn't give the ball. We was paying other people's credit cards, right? Like $100,000, $80,000 for baseball

players I never met in my life. Then we got some payments on my credit card that baseball players clicked. Nah, it was incredible. This is a big problem. This is... Do you get your money back at least? You know, I'm no rat.

You know what I'm saying? But principle is principle. You cannot steal millions of dollars from me and think, you know, we not coming. And I'm already paying you. Too much money. When we started figuring out how much we was paying them, we went back because they ain't been giving us our records.

That's another thing. They ain't give us our records. When we figured out this, we had to figure this all out ourselves. Like, they didn't give us, like, you would think they'd be like, oh, you're my partner. Maybe the employee stole. We want to help you. they didn't give us, like, you would think they'd be like, oh, you're my partner, maybe the employee stole, we want to help you. It's been straight up, like,

no help, no, you know, nothing. So they hiding something. Oh, they know. They know that she stole, but they also know, but they messed up, because I told them, I am the mouth of the South.

Like, you do not want me talking about you robbed me with a megaphone. Like, you know, you robbed me. Look, we have the South. Like, you do not want me talking about you robbed me with a megaphone. Like, you know, you robbed me. Look, we have the proof. Why don't you just pay me back? Nah, sue us. So the arrogancy of such a big company, they're like, nah, get out and sue us.

Oh, you done fucked up now. And I'm telling every artist, if it happened to Fat Joe's, no dummy. If it happened to Fat Joe, it's happening to you right now. Right now. If you're not watching your account on your phone, if he says, oh, we got $10,000. Oh, we got $2,000. Oh, we just paid. You're playing yourself.

Don't trust none of them. Don't let them think that they're your friends they're business managers they know i never got robbed by a gun with it but with a guy with a gun in my life a guy with a gun i've never been robbed by a guy with a gun i've been robbed by men and lady with suits on that smile at me all the time and act like they're good people those are the people that robbed me. Every single time. I've never been robbed. Stick them up!

Never. But I've been robbed for millions and millions of dollars of these people who think that they're smarter than us. But there's something Uncle Dan always says. He said, what happens in the wash

comes out in the rinse. So the last conversation I had with this employee, I said, yo, Vanessa, you know if you stole, I'm gonna catch you.

The last words, I said, no, no, and everybody's response is always no, no, no, no. So now they got me on high alert. Now I'm watching everything. $9.99, $10. I'm watching. Everything's smoking. I have to reevaluate my business

situations with everybody. So now people who I really, really trusted, the word trust don't exist with me no more when it comes to money. I believe that if you leave somebody with too much time, who knows that you're not watching your money correctly, unfortunately, the

temptation is too big, and they steal. Unless you got a straight die hard, I don't steal person. So, I mean, this is what I figured out with this. Because, you know, we treat these people like family. We welcome them in our homes. You know, we got pictures of their kids. We got pictures of their kids. Hey, it's the first day of school.

Meanwhile, I don't know I'm paying for the daughter's school. You're paying for the school. That's your attitude. You're paying for the school. You're out of control. You're really out of control. Listen, the first thing I do every morning when I wake up is check all my accounts and credit cards. Very, very. Before I even look at Instagram. You look like you check your accounts.

I do, I do. I check everything. Hey, guess what? Since I've been checking my account, boy, that thing is rising to the top, boy. God damn. You know what? I check all my accounts, but the only thing is you're going to watch what your daughter spends and what your wife spends all the time.

They out of control. You be like baby girl. I mean, I'm going to be honest with you. I mean, they ain't stealing. They're not like the accountant. Boy, they know how to help themselves. Who knows that? And they don't hear no type of like, yo, we got to watch out.

We got to be, nah, they don't know what that means. All the way up. Yo, they do not know what that means. No. Now, you was on Charlamagne's show, and people took something that you said and didn't understand it. They didn't understand it. You understood it?

Those are people outside of the culture, though. That's the way I explain it. People inside the culture understand, like, that is the best case scenario. Just take what I got, leave me to be. Leave me to lie. All right, guys. So for me to simplify it for people who have never been involved with crime, right, is I wasn't talking to y'all. I was talking directly to the guys who stickin people up and hopefully

we save some lives that's what I was trying to do and so for some reason you asked me what's my position I realized that as an OG in the game that been in the street and the streets respect me it's my obligation now to talk to the youth and let them know the truth. Now, people have been robbing people before Christ. You get it? Cowboys and Indians, they're going to rob. If you got a guy who's starving out there, but he's a tough guy and aggressive, he's going to rob. So there's nothing we can do about that job.

There's going to be prostitution. There's going to be somebody who who did they've been before Christ props there's different jobs that we prefer people don't have but they're gonna have them right so he's gonna rob right now if you robbed the point I was gonna what I was trying to make was like why you gotta kill the man and take his life? That's the only problem I got. Two days ago, I watched a guy rob a bodega, right? Here in New York.

The man was on his knees praying. He showed him the stashes like, yo, look, look, you forgot something. Went in the refrigerator. Yeah, there you go, piece. Guy turned around. Bah! Shoots him in the head. That's pure evil.

And so listen, guys, we are really, I know people been saying this forever, but they just been saying it. The devil's in the streets. The devil. Not bad people. Not this. The devil. The devil is in the streets.

More than ever and alive. Because my thing is when you rob somebody, your ribs is touching. You're aggressive. You got to eat. I know they're going to do that. They've been doing that. I have done that. You see, so I speak from a position.

Now, if I would have went with Charlamagne on the beautiful show and said, you guys, they would have been like, yo, you're a hypocrite, bro. You were sticking dudes up in the Bronx. We know. So I had to keep it real with the people I was talking to, right? But never.

I work every day. I'm just told you a situation where a guy with a suit is robbing me. I don't want no one to get robbed. That was not the message. The message was like, hey, guys, I know y'all fuck with me. Y'all don't kill, bro. Do me a favor, man. Just rob them.

You got it. Go pawn it. Make some money. I don't care. But leave the man live. And so what happens is rappers are a dying breed. I'm not lying to you. Rappers can't even go nowhere no more.

It's not even comfortable to leave your house. I used to look at Khaled and be like, yo, is something wrong with you? I swear. Are you depressed? You never, nah, nah, it's bad out there. You know, I'm chilling. And now, I find myself like that. I'm in my crib and I'm just like, yo, you know, and I'm a

I'm the guy you see on every corner in Harlem, the Bronx, talking to everybody. Like, now you got me in the crib. And it's crazy because look at what's happening. They're killing all the youth. They're killing one after the other. The Pop Smoke, the P&B, the this one, the Nipsey, the this, this.

And so my problem is why we have so much self-hate. Now, Charlamagne, you know, I get beef all the time. It is truly a form of colorism where people look at me like, we understand what he's saying, but we don't like how he, he's not the right look for the message. There's people who feel like that.

Like, why is he talking that real? He ain't, you know, but listen, nobody else gonna talk it. I want to know whatever OG else going to talk it. I want to know whatever OG is trying to talk to you about real issues in life. And it puts me in a bullseye. It puts me in harm's way when I'm talking all this realness. You get what I'm saying? But I do that because I want my life.

You see this book? The Book of Jose. The Book of Jose is a transparency book. This book right here, if you're going through a dark time in your life, you read this book, you're going to be able to smile. You're going to be like, how is this guy who got bullied? You see that face? That face ain't a tough face.

That face is I got my ass whipped every day by 20 guys. You're looking at a guy that was getting his ass whooped every day but still able to smile. Guess what? The community we raised $2 million for, for the burning victims, those are guys used to bust my ass. And we still raised $2 million for them. This is the place I was bullied.

It's the neighborhood. You can go through dark times and get over it and still be with a smile and still show love. You know, and that's hopefully I got something. Now, we know you're coming back up here to talk about the book. No, no, we're really going to talk about the book. You're going to send us the book because we want to read the book. We're excited to read the book.

What happens is I'm talking so much real shit that it leads me to the book. There's nothing I can do to you. There's never been a hip-hop book like this in the history of mankind. I'm not selling it. I'm telling you. You're by far the greatest storyteller that hip-hop has ever seen. We've said that for years. At least top three. I think you, Nori,

and Irv Gotti tell the best stories. Yeah, me, Nori, and Irv. I agree with you. Now, have you and Irv spoke since? No. I seen Chris Gotti last night. I love him. He was there when my daughter was born. I love Irv Gotti. You know, I love his whole entire family, his mother.

You know what I'm saying? One time I canceled the show to go to his mother's birthday party from L.A. I love their whole family. I love how they are, His nieces, nephews. Now, my problem was like, if I'm sissing you, if you're my sis, if you're Remy Ma, you're Shanti, you're my sis.

You're Natina. When I see you, sis, I love you, sis. No matter how much I love a person, I cannot sit there and watch this man disrespect my sister. Right. That I call my sister every day.

I feel like a sucker if I don't address it now. I've been so used to IG and cameras being in my face. Maybe was that the right platform or maybe it was a private call? Don't know. It's done already. You know what I'm saying? But Irv Gotti's correct. I'm not i'm saying but irv got he's correct i'm not his friend i love him he's my brother he helped me at a time when nobody wanted to help me now

i never forget that you know i'm saying so it's not i don't want to cause harm to him have people look at him a different way but i was watching it and it just made me feel crazy like you know what i'm saying and i was just just like, yo, you know what? You know how I dressed it, and, you know, I moved on. You know what I'm saying? I love Irv. You know what I'm saying? He did a lot for me and my family.

So I'm never going to be one of those guys. You know what I'm saying? It wouldn't feel right for you to see Ashanti after that and do things with her knowing that you didn't defend and say what you thought was right. We're not even saying that. I'm trying to tell you she's my sister. And so what you got to understand is girls I call my sister,

they feel so protected because I don't give you perv vibes. I never gave you a perv vibe. Never, never. I'm not that type of guy. Joey is a good time to go out. He's going to have fun, be friendly to everybody. You know, people think Fat Joe got the terror squad. I'm really protected by women because I respect them so much.

And they stand. You see your boss, Stia? She'll stand right in front of me. They'll stand right in front of me, create a wall right in front of me. Why? Because I never disrespect my sisters. I love them all. I show them the same love.

So that was all about me. So when Chris, one of my best friends on Earth, when he approached me, I'd say, yo, bro, that's my sister, bro. Yeah, but you know they're a real tight family. So Earth feels a way. Chris feels the same way. That's how they get down. That's the family that you don't want to be in the projects with them

because you got to fight all seven brothers. You beat one, you got to fight the other one, the other one, the other. You know, they like this. But I've seen him two times since then. Yesterday I seen him, he had a bigger smile. Love you, brother. You know, so this is going to, time is going to do what it's got to do. But me personally, I want everybody to know

because you know what happens in hip hop? I'm too old now. I'm not. No young kid anymore. is gonna time is gonna do what he's got to do but me personally i want everybody to know because you know what happens in hip-hop i'm too old now i'm not no young kid you can't scam me and joke so what happens is when i say that all the herb haters start calling and boy i didn't know it was that many you know rappers and i'm like no no no it is no it is no i love him he's my brother like no no no no i don't want that ain't what we doing this ain't uh smack dvd and all this ain't that time sub-zero this is earth's my brother i love him you know what i'm saying that's how i feel about the the the n-word conversation it feels like every few years it's uh fat joe can't use the n word and i'm like well fat joe been they've been saying that since the 90s like why don't you in the book not fuck the

90s i was born but first of all my mother first of all my projects is 90 i'll give you 80 black still my grandmother's projects is 99.9% black. Be clear. So I'm Spanish. I knew I was Latino, but the whole time I thought I was black anyway. So my mom's lived there 40 years before I was born. In this project. And I'm born blonde hair, green eyes.

She brings me the shit crazy, right? She brings me there. The first thing they go, look. Oh, look at this little nigga, Joey. He got green eyes. She brings, I mean, this shit crazy, right? She brings me there. The first thing they go, look, oh, look at this little nigga, Joey. He got green eyes.

The minute I'm walking, the guys from the building is like, yo, look at that little nigga, Joey, little fat Joey. This is all I knew my whole life before even elementary. Then high school,

then junior high. And so it's a lot of, oh, woke society or something going on these days and Twitter and all that that I guess they don't understand where I come from, where I was born, or how I was raised, or how I lived my whole entire life. Now we know that we use it as love, but we know that the record states that this is a negative word.

I wish we never used it. Same. And I try my best to try to like, but you know Fat Joe knows his green eyes. I've been saying this thing in my DNA. It's hard, bro. I really, seriously, I've been trying to stop. You know what I'm saying? But I've been saying this since I was born.

So I tried the greatest level I can to try to understand if I'm saying? But I've been saying this since I was born. So I tried the greatest level I can to try to understand if I'm offending anybody, that's cool. But I want them to know, no one's going to pressure Fat Joe into feeling or saying anything that he loves or he believes in. No one's ever going to do that. You get one life and ain't nobody going to try to tell me what to say, tell me what to do, tell me what to think. I mean, do I look like a racist? Do I look like... I mean, what's the

N-word? If somebody's really upset with me saying the N-word, what are you saying? I'm a racist saying it? The conversation is always confusing to me because I thought that was a thing. I thought in New York that was a thing. It is a thing. I didn't know. I really a thing. It is a thing. It is a thing. I didn't know. I really have stopped

using that word though like years ago. We try. We try. And maybe if I'm around my friends, but I really do try to make sure.

Even if I'm quoting somebody, I don't use it. I got a best friend who gave me the biggest speech in the world about not using it. Two seconds later, he said it three times.

I'm like, yo, bro, like, Spanish, too. We ain't got to watch it, Dad. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, okay, brother. He gave us a speech, right? Two seconds later, he said it three times. It's in the vocabulary.

It's been in the culture for a long time. That's what it is. And then Fat Joe, hallelujah. Say Fat Joe is able to get brainwashed or, you know, because your mind's a computer. I don't know if you know that. It's been stored for years. So it's so hard to erase the computer, right?

And so it's like, say Fat Joe, never say it again. They're still saying it. They're going to still say it. So it don't end and stop with Fat Joe, never say it again. They still saying it. They're going to still say it. So it don't end and stop with Fat Joe. Even calling women bitches, too. That's, you know, now people... It's the same. It's the same conundrum.

But I'm saying I'm watching the BET Awards. And Trina said I'm the baddest bitch. Yeah. Lil' Kim says she the queen bitch. The queen bitch? What are you telling me? But then you got Latifah saying, who you calling a bitch? That's why I try.

That's the word. I don't mess with that word. Women use it with each other. No, I've never been a B word person. I try so hard to not say it. You know, but what are you going to say when the girl say it? She says it. It's kind of a woman trying to take the power out of that word with each other.

And so that's really what, when we use it with each other in a positive way. I just think everybody's too sensitive. You need to judge a person by who their character truly is. You know, who they really are, who they represent. You know. It's kind of like how. Let me be clear on this. Fat Joe's for black and Latino people.

And so when you go Big Pun's first song, Boricua Morena, it's meaning black and Latino people. Fat Joe, when he gives out food in the community, he gives it to black and Latino people. When Fat Joe opens a school in his store, he has black and Latino kids there. When he opens anything, it's always for both equally. That's just who I am as a person.

You know, that's just who I am. So you got to judge a person by, not by the N-word, by the this, by the that. I don't even know what these people, I really don't know. Like, I don't think you guys understand. When Farrakhan, you want a headline? When Farrakhan sees me, he says, peace black man. That's right, that's right. No, this is what Farrakhan sees me, you want a headline? When Farrakhan sees me, he says, peace, black man. That's right. That's right.

No, this is what Farrakhan says. Peace, black man. Peace, beloved. Yo, peace, Mr. Minister Farrakhan. That's how he addresses me. When Reverend Al Sharpton sees me, he says, peace, black man. What do you want me to do? Am I cool some places?

I'm cool not there. You know, I've been a mutt my whole career. I've been too black for some Spanish people and been too Spanish for some black people. I've been a mutt my whole career. I've been a mutt. You know what I'm saying? It's the weirdest thing,

but, you know, I've been able to navigate through it. You know what I'm saying? And I'm happy with, you know, who I am as a person. Well, you're hosting today the Black Entertainment Television Awards. That's right. That's crazy. And that's amazing. Don't you think sometimes you find yourself in arguments with kids that just might not know any better?

Like, even when they say things like... You gotta stop, Sean. No, when you said about Latinos and hip-hop. You got the hand and all that. Yo, you got it. You tell me about Latinos and hip-hop. Can you please tell me about Latinos? They've been there since the beginning. Mr. Black America, you got hip-hop. Can you please tell me about Latinos? They've been there since the beginning. Mr. Black America, you got your own show. Can you please tell me about Latinos?

They've been there since the beginning. God damn. Like, right, so money is... I didn't say... My wife is like the hip-hop police. Her girls call her up, Natina, to, what the fuck you talking about, Latinos? Natina, I got to sit him down.

Maybe they don't know. You know, it's a fact what I'm saying. Like a fact. Yo, this is a billion percent. Hip-hop's 50 years old. Okay, it's turning 50 years old. It was black and Latino. What the hell on earth you want me to tell you?

I didn't say nothing. Is this a diet Pepsi? It is. I said, you know, Fat Joe Fat? This is no controversy. Oh no, that's debatable now. I'm saying, this is no controversy. This is like, yo, do you take cocaine

in the morning? Like, yeah, yeah, you know, all of a sudden. But what happens is, you gotta gotta understand and i have an obligation being a true culture a hip-hop culture not only that we always been multi-racial you know and since day one there was asians there was white people there there was this and they and we always taught each other. Blondie did one of the first rappers. We was always taught hip-hop culture is almost like a religion. No matter where you from, no matter what, if you love this thing,

if you in there break dancing, you love this thing, you the culture. So now a lot of these people, they are on Twitter and stuff like that. No disrespect, because I don't like to alienate nobody, but they're from different places. There ain't New York and the Bronx where it was created. There was no social media. There was nothing. The first hip-hop photographer is Joe Conzo,

a Puerto Rican brother who took... We would not have any documentary you ever seen. Supreme Team, this, this. You would not have no footage if it wasn't for Joe Conzo. You have to know he's the first hip hop photographer. And so we have these beautiful images of day one. When you look at the pictures, it's black and Latino. I'm not making this up.

This is what it is. Right. But it just seems like you got people who are now. I get it, terrible things, terrible things, not even terrible things, phenomenal or trashy. There is no way to explain. I'm black, bro. Fat Joe is black.

I hate slavery. I hate oppression. I hate systemic racism. This is what you got to ask yourself, everybody, pro, whatever. If you see a black woman getting harm on the corner, are you willing to die for her? Because I am. I know I am.

Read the book. I know I am. I'm a frontliner. I'm not a talker on Twitter. I'm about that life, right? So I turn around and I go like this. I say like this. So, you know, I get it.

We should understand the pain, what happened. Don't take it out on me. Like, I don't got shit to do with this. I was born into projects on welfare, paying for shit with coupons, bummy schools, terrible health system. This, you know, I had diabetes since I was 12 years old. And when I got older, got health conscious,

I lost weight. The doctor told me, oh, you don't got to take medicine no more. I'm like, what do you mean? No, I was fighting with my doctor. In the hood, they don't teach you that you can lose weight and get rid of diabetes. I'm thinking, oh, I got this shit for life. No.

I'm under the same oppression. I got my ass whooped 10 million fucking times in the projects by police. My ass whooped. Nobody. Have you ever been dumped in a dumpster upside down, head first by the police? No. Oh, well, I have. You know, you talk about ass whipping?

You talk about police brutality? Oh, we can make a book on that. Like, you know, my ass whoop. Guys was getting away with anything they wanted in the world. There was no camera phone. So the youth, if you're listening, there were no cell phones at one time. There were no camera phones. There was nothing.

You just got your ass whooped every day, right? And if you was in trouble like me, because I think I'm guilty. I should have got 25% of the ass whoopings I should have gotten. I'm going to be honest with you. Maybe even 30, right? But the type of abuse that, so, you know, you can't. That's why I was a blessing when the Rodney King tape happened. Because people finally got to see it.

They knew what was going on, man. It's like, you know, it's terrible what has happened to black and Latino people. And so when you go to the what you call that? The summer soul. It's Puerto Ricans. When you go to the movie of the Chicago guy that got murdered, the Black Panther. Oh, Fred Hampton. Black Jesus.

Black Messiah. It's Puerto Ricans. Oh, absolutely. You know, it's Puerto Ricans in that movie. Absolutely. You know, they was with the Puerto Ricans. When you come over here to the Black Panthers and the Young Lords, it was Puerto Ricans in there. So in that whole civil rights, we never been.

Look. That's why the minister always says black, brown, and indigenous people. The way they look. Correct. The way they look at this is we all the same until we realize that we're all the same and this is what i was saying in your in your in your thing and so it's not disrespecting no way that some people beat us to the punch but people wonder why jewish people uh get what they want well you know why they get what they want is they all get together 10,000

and say, we're voting for Mr. Washington. And Mr. Washington knows if he wants to be councilman, he got to take care of that community, right? So there's a divide and conquer between the Latinos and Blacks telling them you ain't the same.

Imagine we all voted the same. And represented. Black Lives Matter, Latino Lives Matter. Something went over. Imagine we all voted the same. And represented. Black Lives Matter, Latino Lives Matter. Something went over here, we all together like this. The numbers is so strong that we will get whatever we want in our hoods. New schools, better hospitals, better assistance for our single-parent mothers. But they let people separate them. You know, Fat Joe's a really, he's a problem.

Fat Joe been working on this his whole life. Bringing Latinos and blacks to think like this and bringing them together. That's why,

you know, I'm hosting the BET Awards. Yes. And that is tonight at 9 p.m. Now, are you performing? I know you're coming out with the Loud Records.

Definitely performing. Are you performing besides that? How many times have you been performing? I know you're coming out with the Loud Records. Definitely performing. Are you performing besides that? Loud Records. Diamonds is dancing legendary. Clothes is too much. What about the Cyphers? Hip-hop looks so beautiful. The Cyphers was incredible.

They got a battle, a smack battle. A smack battle, yeah. Smack DVD. That was crazy. The performances are sick. I don't want to mess everything up. You know I'm a producer. Y'all proud of you, man.

Thank you, brother. Nah, I went to his show. See, y'all got to understand, man. No one man can have it all. The only way to be strong is all your brothers and sisters got to win. I don't know what these people don't understand. That's real. If, Envy, you fall in trouble, say you do, God forbid, right?

You can pick up the call and be like, yo, John, fuck. Yo, we're going to come together and help you. We're moving in your house big enough. Yep, that's a fact. We love you like that. No, no, we love you like that. What about the kids, though? He got 12 of them.

Well, two of them are going to be out, so there's four left. Anyway, right? We going to be out, so there's four left. Anyway, right? We have to be strong. Whether our friends own a barbershop, own a mechanic shop, own this. There's no such thing as one person winning. You have, if everybody wins, then you

can help each other. That's what you have to understand. So, Fat Joe, I love that young artists are looking good. I love that all my people are winning. That's what you have to understand. So, Fat Joe, I love that young artists are looking good. I love that all my people are winning, that Nori's winning. Who'd have thought Gilly from Philly? Gilly from Philly was probably the far reach.

Would you have thought 10 years ago that Gilly and Wallow was going to be big? I didn't know who Wallow was. I know Gilly from Philly. I've been at home four years. I know Gilly. I didn't know Wallow either. He's a great guy. So, we got to be big. I didn't know who Wallow was. I know Gilly. I've been at home for four years. I know Gilly. I didn't know Wallow. He's a great guy. Great guy.

So we got to be happy and celebrate everybody. Nori too though. All of y'all. That's what I said. When you see y'all getting embraced on that level,

it's like, damn, Nori was up here 13 years ago. It was Nori shot somebody. That was the hashtag. And so what happens is that people grow. That's right. And so all we are

now is no different than Shaquille O'Neal, Kenny Smith. We the hip-hop commentators. That's right. Y'all the hip-hop commentators. You get what I'm saying? Y'all better though, because y'all lived it though. I'll take the compliment. I'll take it. But what I'm saying, y'all give me a lived it, though. No, no. I'll take the compliment. I'll take it.

But what I'm saying, y'all, give me a Diet Pepsi, please. Didier, publicist. That's the second endorsement right there. No, no, no. I'm truly. People are going to. People are going to. People gamble.

I got friends signing themselves out of gambling. You know, right? I got friends to get high. I got friends. Fat Joe is a Diet Pepsi guy. There's nothing you can do. I have refrigerators in every room. My daughter knows at three in the morning when I go to the bathroom and she hears that.

She knows it's Joe. It doesn't have nothing to do with endorsement, but the fact that I can really enjoy something and still get paid from it, it's a female. Natina said, ask him to name some of the performers and are there any surprises? Could Natina

come up any here? Come over here, Natina, because I don't know who I should say, who I shouldn't say. Natina said, please bring this back to the awards. Push a T in the clips. Wow. The clips. That was a surprise.

Wow. I fucked up the surprise. Come on, first one. First one. He could have said anyone but that one. Come on, Kanye, Jesse, please. I did not know that was happening. Little Flip, Little Kid, Mom Deep, M.O.P.,

Remy Ma, 3-6 Mafia, Wu-Tang. You could have said all of those. Wu-Tang. And I picked the one. You picked the one that nobody knew about. Next, you're going to say Nori's coming out with... Diddy, who's the real... Who's the performer?

Somebody help. He needs a lifeline. Glorilla's performing. Glorilla, EST, you sure? Yes, we FNF. Fabio, you can't say who Blue's performing with. Nicki Minaj. Or who Fabio's performing with.

Or who's this... Listen, let me tell you something. Nine o'clock tonight, man. BET. We've said? Listen, let me tell you something. Nine o'clock tonight, man. BET. We've said too much. Let me tell you something. I did the intro. I came out in that Tiffany blue.

Right? Tiffany. Right? Well, you might have said, nah, we seen Joe Crack in something like this before, right? So you go to the side and you change. So two minutes later, I'm introducing somebody. I come out in that chocolate brown leather bowtie.

That was my best moment of the whole show. You know why? The whole crowd started laughing like, oh, shit. I said, yeah, I'm going to give you this work all night long. So you had 10 outfit changes? If you think I'm the OG washed up, you learned something that show. They're laughing. I'm looking at Bobby up, you learned something that show. They laughing. I'm looking at Bobby O'Fore and all of them, they over there just laughing like,

yo, this guy's crazy. No, I gave him that work. That sneaker game is legend. I really put on for hip hop. I took it serious. I'm trying to get hired somewhere. You got the talk show coming on, Stars?

Yeah, we got a lot of jobs, man. We got Stars, the talk show. And Joe's coming back next month, too. He's coming back. Yeah, that's next month. We got the book out. That's enough? It's enough?

That's what he's saying? Let's get it. We're doing BET tonight. You know Fat Joe talk a lot of shit, man. He's coming back next month. I'm coming back next month. Talk about the book. Talk about the book all day.

I'm going to still be here, Joey. I don't think you ever leave. I think they faked this out. I'll see you next month here, Joey. You made a fake exit. These guys here, man, let me tell you something. Let me tell you, your skin's been better since you made the announcement. Maybe you're a lot less stressed.

You know, you don't need that title over you. But we're proud of you, man. You do your thing, man. I'm sure you're going to be successful wherever you go. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to be here, Joe. She's doing middays. She's got a nationally syndicated midday show.

Way up with Angelique. Nationally. Yeah, she's on like what? You starting off with 30 markets or something like that? Minimum 30. Yeah. You guys getting a lot of money man I love it though

you know what I'm saying we gotta get it you know what I'm saying that's what it's all about everybody we live once that's right well it's Fat Joe tonight tune in 9 o'clock

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