The Breakfast Club - Find Your Joy (Eboni K Williams Interview)

Episode Date: June 11, 2020

Today we had friend to the show Eboni K Williams where she gave her logic about the upcoming election, defunnding the police and more. Also, Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the day" to the latest "Karen" ...for harassing a woman because of her race and also he gives a hee haw to her husband that cried for forgiveness from her actions. Also, Angela helped some listeners out during "Ask Yee". Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:00:16 What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast
Starting point is 00:00:46 Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's on your radio right now. Do you know how to pop that coochie for a girl? There you go. It's the world's most dangerous morning show.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Cut the cameras, I'm out of here. I agree. What kind of show is this? My son listens to this show. The Breakfast Club. With DJ Envy. The captain of this bitch. With Angela Yee, the only one who can keep these guys in check.
Starting point is 00:01:58 With Charlamagne Tha God. I'm a lovable asshole. And this is The Breakfast Club, bitches! Good morning, USA! Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, Charlamagne, you don't sound like your usual self. You want to, I know it's a difficult time. You want to explain to people because people will probably understand, like, damn, that ain't the usual. You know, that ain't the usual Charlamagne we got.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I don't know if I'm ready to talk, talk, but I mean, you know, yeah, rest in peace to the homie Jasmine Waters, a.k.a. Jazz Fly. Got the news yesterday around 1.30 East Coast time that she passed away. Very good partner of mine. If you, you know, listen to the, listen to the Brilliant Idiots podcast the podcast I do, she was actually the first ever guest on the podcast period and been on the podcast a few times
Starting point is 00:03:33 but just a homie somebody that when it was time to go to war or time to bounce some ideas around or just somebody to kind of talk me off the ledge a lot of the times. She was a person I would definitely go to.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Jazz always knew what to say and how to say it. Hell of a wordsmith. One of the greatest writers ever. Like, you know, I'm on record saying that a million times. Like, I just, in my mind, she was, you know, I'm on record saying that a million times. Like, I just, in my mind, she was, you know, whatever Shonda Rhimes was or has become. You know what I mean? She was one of those. Like, she was really, really, really, really on her way.
Starting point is 00:04:16 So I was devastated to hear that news yesterday. Yeah, she's been on The Breakfast Club, I believe, as well. I'm trying to hear that news yesterday. Yeah, she's been on The Breakfast Club, I believe, as well. I'm trying to remember if she was. She sat in on The Breakfast Club a couple times, but I believe she was on The Breakfast Club. Yeah, she's been on The Breakfast Club, but she used to just come to the studio and kick it. She'd be up there kicking it with me or whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Yeah, that hurt different. That hit different. That hit different. It hurt different. That hit different. That hit different. It hurt different. Yeah, that one has me really thinking about a lot of things. 2020 has been a wild year. The past couple of years have been a wild year. But, you know, it's like when you are already emotionally and mentally and spiritually exhausted just because of, you know, the world that we're in.
Starting point is 00:05:06 When you get that type of news on top of everything else that's going on, it's like trauma on top of trauma. So that's how I feel today. I feel like a new day, same old trauma. But, yeah. That one
Starting point is 00:05:21 hurts in a real way. Well, definitely rest in peace, Jazz Fly. Jasmine Waters and condolences to her family. Oh, man. Condolences to her family. Condolences to her brother, her sister, her mom. Yeah. Father.
Starting point is 00:05:39 I talked to her brother yesterday. Spoke to her sister for a second yesterday. Talked to her mom this morning, but yeah, it sucks. Yeah. It really does. Really, really, really sucks. Alright, well again, rest in peace to Jasmine Jazzfly.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Oh man. Alright, well, today Ebony K. Williams will be joining us. Yep. Of course, you know she's an attorney. We're going to be talking about everything from... And she's on State of the Culture. She's on State of the Culture. We're going to be talking
Starting point is 00:06:12 about a lot. We're going to be talking about the officers that were charged. We're going to be talking about defunding the police. We're going to be talking about political things. So we're going to talk to Ebony K. Williams in a little bit. And we got front page news popping off. What are we talking about in front page news? We'll be talking about a second wave of coronavirus and what places were hit the hardest. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Where are we starting? Well, Major League Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred is guaranteeing there will be a 2020 season. So get ready for that. They're trying to figure out finances, basically. So we'll give you some more updates. Now, a second wave of coronavirus has hit Florida, Texas, and Arizona after reopenings.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And according to the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, wave of coronavirus has hit Florida, Texas, and Arizona after reopenings. And according to the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, Eric Toner said there is a new wave coming in parts of the country. It's small and it's distant so far, but it's coming. Florida, they reported new cases of the deadly illness and more than any other seven-day period. In Texas, hospitalizations went up 6.3%. That's the largest daily increase since the pandemic even started. And in Arizona, new cases
Starting point is 00:07:30 have also reached an all-time high on June 2nd. I think that was expected. I think we expected that. I don't think anybody didn't expect that. When people started going out and you start getting in close quarters with people, yeah, it's going to spread.
Starting point is 00:07:45 It's going to spread more. Well, they said in some places it hasn't, though. They can't figure out why. In Georgia, infections have dropped. In California as well. You think it's because they're doing more testing? Since everybody reopened, they've been doing more testing. So testing shows more cases?
Starting point is 00:08:03 I don't know because they haven't talked about the increase in testing, so not sure what the correlation is. But they said they haven't found a direct relationship between states reopening and the increased cases, according to the White House Coronavirus Task Force. Yes, they still exist. But, um,
Starting point is 00:08:20 yes, so they're trying to figure that out. Now, Donald Trump is going to be going back out to do his rallies. And the first place he's going to is going to be Tulsa, Oklahoma on Juneteenth. So June 19th, he'll be there. And obviously Tulsa, Oklahoma was once a thriving African-American business community, and it was decimated back in 1921 when a racist white mob killed hundreds of black residents. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Yep, all because they were a thriving black community, all because they wanted to stop black progress, all because they wanted to stop black prosperity. The same country that, you know, tells you to pull yourself up by your boot scraps, as soon as you get some boots, they cut your feet off. And that's exactly what they did in Tulsa, Oklahoma. And he's doing that on Juneteenth. Coincidence? I think not.
Starting point is 00:09:14 No, definitely, absolutely not a coincidence. You know, he made the announcement as he was meeting with some African-American supporters of his for a roundtable discussion. So, clearly done purposely. At the same time, he's also opposing efforts to... No, I said unless he's going there because he wants to give that race speech that they've been contemplating whether he should give or not
Starting point is 00:09:39 in light of everything that's happening with George Floyd because what Donald Trump wants to do is make a play for male African-American voters because he feels like if he gets in the double digits with male African-American voters, he will win in November. Now, at the same time, Donald Trump is opposing efforts to remove Confederate commanders' names from military bases. He said he opposes any effort by the U.S. military
Starting point is 00:10:02 to rename the nearly one dozen major bases and installations that have the names of Confederate military commanders. That would include places like Fort Bragg in North Carolina, Fort Hood in Texas, Fort A.P. Hill in Virginia. And even though they are open to having these conversations, the military bases are open to having these bipartisan conversations. Donald Trump is saying he is opposing those efforts. Yeah. I mean, you know, you know, I'm from I'm from Moncks Corner, South Carolina, born in Charleston. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:36 I've been having conversations with the mayor about, you know, removing Confederate memorials and things of that nature. And they actually have something called the Heritage Act that protects certain monuments and memorials. So if they're on, like, private land or if there's some type, some part of the, if they're on some type of private land and there's some part of the Confederate, then they can't be removed without a vote or something like that. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:05 But we're working on it because there's no better way to uphold white supremacy than to continue to celebrate white supremacy. I know Virginia was like that crazy. Like, Virginia, when I went to school at Hampton University, that's all you seen was Confederate flags. That's the first time I really started to see them because, you know, me being in New York, you don't ever see them. I don't think you ever seen it growing up in New York City.
Starting point is 00:11:25 But when I went to Hampton, oh, my goodness. All right, well, that is front page news. Get it off your chest, 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up right now. Maybe you had a bad day, bad night, or maybe everything is positive and you just want to vent a little bit. Whatever it may be, phone lines are wide open. Call us now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:11:47 The Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up. Wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? How you doing? Good morning, man. My name is Moose from the Bronx. What's up, bro?
Starting point is 00:12:06 Get it off your chest. Listen, man, as a white man, right? I'm born and raised in the Bronx. I want to say that the whole racism thing, we have to stop looking at it as a black problem. We need to look at it as a human problem, what it really is. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:25 I mean, it is a black problem, brother. I mean, it as a human problem, what it really is. You know what I mean? It is a black problem, brother. I mean, it is a black problem. The thing is, black people are the ones that's getting killed by the hands of police and the hands of others. What I'm saying is, as a white man, we need to stop looking at it as just that. We need to look at it as a human problem. This thing is genocide, man. They kill black and browns doing
Starting point is 00:12:47 left and right. You know what I mean? That's not right, man. It is a human problem, and I'll tell you something else. Black people cannot destroy a system that we didn't create. So when it comes to the system of white supremacy and systemic racism that's keeping its knee on all of our necks,
Starting point is 00:13:03 white people have to help dismantle that. Absolutely. Hello, who's this? Yeah, this is Ross from Queens, man. What's up, bro? Get it off your chest. Yeah, I got a big problem, man. We've had a moose and a horse call up already.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Mm-hmm. I just want to point that out. Yeah, everybody's always yelling out, man, you know what I'm saying, all these good cops out here. When a black person gets arrested, they don't talk about all the good black people out here. We ain't talking about the good cops. We talking about
Starting point is 00:13:25 these bad ones, man. You know what I'm saying? The issue is a thousand good cops. All right, what about a thousand good black brothers? You know what I'm saying? We don't talk about that. Let's get the issue where it's at, man. The issue is these bad cops, man. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of them out there doing whatever they want, you know what I'm saying, with the Supreme Authority out here.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Okay. Can't argue with that. All righty, brother. Yeah. Be safe out there. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't Iana tribe own country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a racket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that?
Starting point is 00:14:38 Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max.
Starting point is 00:14:59 You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all.
Starting point is 00:15:46 It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves, for self-preservation and protection. It was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're gonna figure out the rhythm of this thing alicia keys like you've never heard her before listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts this is your time to get it off your chest whether you're mad or blessed so you better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:17:09 This is Lee Lee. Hey, Lee Lee, get it off your chest. Lee Lee. Hey, Breakfast Club, y'all guys are great. I have something on my chest. I live in Louisville, Georgia, and we have an actual slave market where they're buying sold slaves. And we have a petition going around to get it removed.
Starting point is 00:17:24 We have people that don't want to get it removed. We have people that don't want to have it removed saying it's part of our history. I'm not understanding. Why would we want to see it every single day going downtown through town
Starting point is 00:17:33 through the heart of town? Definitely wouldn't want to see that. That's crazy. You know what's so crazy? Growing up in South Carolina, I always felt like I never saw, I never experienced
Starting point is 00:17:43 overt racism just because a person never called me the N-word. So I always thought it was covert. When you live in a town where you do see Confederate flags all over state monuments or highways and schools are named after segregationists and racists, that's overt racism. Exactly. It's just ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:17:59 You got people saying at this point in our history, we need to be able to tell our kids about where we came from. I didn't come from that. Who are these people saying that? We have petitions. It's online. Exactly. No, not just them.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Not just white people. We have black people that say it needs to stay there. Wow. And they petitioned us several times. And we have one going around now trying to get it removed. You know, that love of Massa is deep. Some of these Negroes love their Massa more than they love their fellow black man or woman. We call them yes people.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Yes people? We have a whole community that disagrees with everything. Yes. I just had to get it off my chest. Like I said, we are oppositionopposition.com. Please look up the link to try to sign it for us and help us out. All right. Well, thank you.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. Hello, who's this? Hey, good morning. How y'all doing? It's Rico. Rico, what's up? Get it off your chest, bro. Good morning, Angela Yee, Charlemagne. How y'all doing? Good. How are you, Rico?
Starting point is 00:18:59 I'm doing all right. I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I just wanted to call I'm a young black man. I live in good. I just wanted to call. I'm a young black man. I live in Florida. I have a small business. It's thriving. It's doing pretty good. So I'm just happy about that.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I've been doing my thing. I've been studying the stock market and things of that nature. I've been looking into getting into stocks. So I'm just proud and just want to spread some positivity. What's your small business? I have a land statement business. Oh, that's dope. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:32 And it's been very busy. So I'm actually planning on expanding and even looking into hiring some employees. So I'm just, I'm proud of myself, you know, and I hope you're all having a great day as well. Thank you. We appreciate you. Congrats on your business doing well, and I think it's dope you're getting into the stock market.
Starting point is 00:19:53 I was looking at my stocks yesterday, and that was depressing, but I just stopped looking at it for a little while. All right. Well, get it off your chest. I looked at mine a couple of days ago, and I wasn't depressed. No, mine neither. I did good with Boeing. Well, anyway, get it off your chest. I looked at mine a couple days ago and I wasn't depressed. No, mine neither.
Starting point is 00:20:06 I did good with Boeing. Anyway, get it off your chest. I don't know what I did good with. 5851051. If you need to vent, you can hit us up. I want to get something off my chest. I am not doing alright this morning. My mind is not on radio right now. I'm going to be honest with you. My mind is not on radio.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I am mentally and emotionally and physically exhausted. I need to do like two hours of therapy. I really can't even think straight. I just want everybody out there to guard their energy and please, please, please take care of your mental health. I have never in my life been more dedicated to helping people who have mental health issues, but to sit here and act like
Starting point is 00:20:38 I'm okay this morning is not going to work. I am not okay. I am grieving. I am mourning. I am confused and I just want to say rest in peace to Jasmine Waters, a.k.a. Jazz Fly. I need to get that out. I had to get that out. I wish I was there. I could give you a big
Starting point is 00:20:54 hug, brother. You want me to give you a hug through the phone, brother? I want to hug you. I want to hug you. I want a goddamn hug. Let me hug you. I want a goddamn hug. Just put your hands up. Put your arms out, brother. What is wrong with you? Put your arms out I love you You really want to take advantage Of me at a moment like this?
Starting point is 00:21:07 I'm just saying I love you, brother I love you Can you love me back? Come on, say it Let me hear it I do love you I do love you There you go
Starting point is 00:21:13 I love you too Give me a hug Just act like it I do All right Shut up, man Shut up We got rumors on the way?
Starting point is 00:21:20 Yeah, I just can't sit here And act like I'm okay When I'm not okay I really can't It's too fake. All right. That's the piece you have in the waters. We got rumors on the way?
Starting point is 00:21:30 Yes, we are going to be discussing somebody who says that when she was six years old and she's a reality show star, she was chased by the Ku Klux Klan. All right. We'll talk about that when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired?
Starting point is 00:21:49 Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy.
Starting point is 00:21:59 There's 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe owned country.
Starting point is 00:22:15 My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets.
Starting point is 00:22:28 We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself.
Starting point is 00:24:30 It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:24:45 podcasts. This is the Rumor Report with Angela Yee. Well, LeBron has partnered with other athletes and entertainers to start a group that's going to protect the voting rights of African Americans. According to the New York Times, who spoke to him on the phone, the organization is called More Than a Vote, and they're going to pair up with other voting organizations and work to help to get African Americans to register to vote and to cast their ballot in November. He said, because of everything that's going on,
Starting point is 00:25:19 people are finally starting to listen to us. We feel like we're finally getting a foot in the door. How long is up to us? We don't know, but we feel like we're getting some ears and some attention. And this is the time for us to finally make a difference. We want you to go out and vote, but we're also going to give you the tutorial. We're going to give you the background of how to vote and what they're trying to do the other side to stop you from voting. Other people who have joined to help out the organization include Jalen Rose, Skylar Diggins-Smith, and Trey Young. So that's a great thing that's happening. Also, Georgia Democrat Stacey Abrams, who has Fair Fight, also advocated for fair elections. And
Starting point is 00:25:56 she said, we look forward to working with LeBron and other professional athletes in More Than a Vote to stop voter suppression and protect the right to vote for Black voters across the country. I mean, that's a great cause, but it's not that black people don't want to vote. It's just that you have to give black people something to vote for. People are not, you know, they're not into the voting process because they feel like, you know, these these Democrats, especially when it comes to the presidential candidates, haven't done anything for their communities. Like, it's really just that simple. Like, we got to stop putting a burden on people to vote and start putting a burden on Democrats to give voters something to vote for. If you energize people, they coming out. We show we've shown that time
Starting point is 00:26:32 and time again. You just got to energize the black community. That's it. Give us something to vote for. Well, I think you can do both. You can encourage people to go out and vote. Some people like Snoop or I think it was Offset just voted for the first time because they didn't even know they could vote. And then what we saw just happened for the first time because they didn't even know they could vote. And then what we saw just happened in Georgia. People did go try and vote and there were all kinds of issues with standing in line for hours. Locations were closing. People had difficulty with machines.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Sometimes it's just the technical part of it as well. So anything that you can do to make sure. Yeah, I know they go out and vote. I'm just saying when you motivate black people, they come out in droves. Look at Barack Obama in 2012. 93% of African Americans voted for Barack Obama. 93%! If you give us something to feel like we're motivated to vote for, we're coming out in droves.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Right, and voting is not just... If we didn't come out in 2016, we weren't motivated. And also, voting is not just about the president. But as you know, people are voting in the primaries. So I've got to make sure that we always keep that energy going and always educate people on what's happening even right now to try to stop you from wanting to vote. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:27:36 All right, now, Portia Williams has revealed that she was chased by the Ku Klux Klan when she was only six years old, and her father, who was the legendary Hosea Williams, civil rights activist, was there with her. And she went to her first march when she was six. And here's what else she told Andy Cohen on Watch What Happens Live. Being the granddaughter of a civil rights leader, where I was about six years old when I went to
Starting point is 00:27:58 my first march. And it was here in Georgia for South, for Scythe County. And I was smacked in the face with racism. We came across Ku Klux Klan who decided they were going to protest our protest. And they threw rocks at us. I actually got hit with one. They chased us back to the buses and called us the N-word and any other thing you can imagine the KKK would be calling us. Yeah, imagine that.
Starting point is 00:28:24 She said they were throwing rocks at them. She got hit by a rock and all of that. They also had a Bravo Amplify Our Voices panel, and she was on that panel as well. Who else was on the panel? She was on with Candy
Starting point is 00:28:39 and Giselle Bryant from the Real Housewives of Potomac. I think that's how you said it. All right, the Grammys is going to drop the word urban from the Real Housewives of Potomac. Okay. Of Potomac. I think that's how you said it. All right. The Grammys is going to drop the word urban from the awards categories. And they're going to stop using it now. So this is them trying to launch a new chapter in their history. The prize for best urban contemporary album is now the best progressive R&B album.
Starting point is 00:29:03 If you guys recall, Tyler, the creator, had said last year that he didn't like the term urban. Here's what he had to say. On one side, I'm very grateful that what I made could just be, you know, acknowledged in a world like this. But also, it sucks that whenever we, and I mean guys that look like me, do anything that's genre-bending or that's anything,
Starting point is 00:29:29 they always put it in a rap or urban category. And I don't like that urban word. It's just a politically correct way to say the N-word to me. So when I hear that, I'm just like, why can't we just be in pop? Half of me feels like the rap nomination was a backhanded compliment. First of all, there's nothing wrong with the rap, unless, of course, you aren't making rap music. In Tyler's case, I understand why he feels like that.
Starting point is 00:29:52 If he isn't just making rap, he may not want to be nominated as a rapper. But if you started as a rapper, even if you explore other genres of music, aren't you still a rapper just doing other types of music? Yes. I think they should find a way to categorize the music, not the artists. I think that's what they do a lot of times. They don't categorize,
Starting point is 00:30:07 they categorize the artists when they should be categorizing the music. Like if there's a guy that's a rapper, like say when Andre 3000 made The Love Below or when Kanye made 808
Starting point is 00:30:16 and the Heartbreaks, they were rappers who explored other genres of music. They should categorize the music, not the artists. Well, Best Urban Contemporary Album is about the music more than the artist because it's about that particular album.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And if that album is not a hip-hop album or it's not an R&B album and it's in a different genre, I think he feels like it's just, instead of saying pop, you know, people, just because they're black, get put into the urban category. But what is progressive contemporary music? That sounds stupid. Well, progressive R&B album is the category. That's going to be the name of Bernie Sanders' R&B album.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Stupid. The progressive R&B album. That's what that is. That sounds wild. He's going to drop an R&B album. It's going to be the progressive R&B album from the Bronx. Yeah, that sounds crazy. Progressive R&B sounds crazy. All right, well, I R&B album from the Bronx. Yeah, that sounds crazy. Progressive R&B
Starting point is 00:31:05 sounds crazy. Alright, well, I'm Angela Yee, and that is your rumor report. Yo, what you got on your progressive R&B playlist, son? Oh, man, right now I got that new Burning Man, The Burn. What you got on yours? I don't know. I don't listen to progressive R&B.
Starting point is 00:31:21 It's not my thing. It's not your thing? It goes a little too far left for me. Stupid. Yee, we got front page news coming up. What are we talking about? Progressiveness, basically. No, actually, this is definitely not progression. We're going to talk about two black teenagers in Oklahoma
Starting point is 00:31:36 who were arrested for jaywalking. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Where we starting, Yee? Two teenagers in Oklahoma were arrested and now they have sparked an investigation. After video showed the police were handling them very aggressively. One of the teenagers was being held onto the ground as he was saying, I can't breathe. The police did release body cam footage. It's in Tulsa. On June 4th, police jumped out of their patrol car to confront them for jaywalking,
Starting point is 00:32:17 and the situation escalated. The first teen is apprehended. His friend is saying, why are you choking him? All he was doing was jaywalking. And then one officer responded, we just want to talk with him. Then he had to act a fool like that. The 20-minute video shows an officer remained on top of the teenager who lay on his stomach even after he was handcuffed. And the teenager is begging the officer to please stop touching him.
Starting point is 00:32:39 But the officer's hands remain placed on the teen. And repeatedly he's pulling on his pants, grabbing his legs and crotch. And then the officers repeated to the teenagers that they broke the law because they jaywalked. Is that ridiculous? You still enforce jaywalking tickets? That is crazy. I didn't know they still enforced jaywalking tickets. I know they enforce a lot in California.
Starting point is 00:32:59 A lot in California they enforce it. I mean, you couldn't possibly enforce it in New York, but I know they do it a lot in Cali. Now, the teenager was handcuffed first and was forced into a police car. He was yelling at profanities. He called the officers evil and racist and said that they arrested him because he's black, and he kept yelling, call my mama, call my mama. He said, because I'm black, I'm a criminal.
Starting point is 00:33:19 And then he screamed out, Black Lives Matter. And then the other teenager was let go. So now this is under investigation. The only problem with that is jaywalking really is illegal, but it's really just a sucker ruled in force. When's the last time a cop gave somebody a jaywalking ticket? And how about just give somebody a ticket? Do you have to arrest them?
Starting point is 00:33:43 When do you get arrested for that? Can't they just give you a ticket? Yeah, I thought they'd just give you a ticket. I don't know what the penalty is for jaywalking. There should be a ticket of that. I feel like I've jaywalked with the police before. Hmm? I feel like I've jaywalked with the police before.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I'm sure. All right, well, George Floyd's brother was talking in front of Congress. Felonies Floyd, he made an appearance. And here's what he had to say about police reform and law enforcement overhaul. People of all backgrounds, genders and races have come together to demand change, honor them and make the necessary changes that make law enforcement the solution and not the problem. Hold them accountable when they do something wrong. Teach them what it means to treat people with empathy and respect. Teach them what necessary force is. Teach them that deadly force should be used rarely and only when life is at
Starting point is 00:34:42 risk. George wasn't hurting anyone that day. He didn't deserve to die over $20. Yeah, so that's facts. Yeah, absolutely. And then you hear this jaywalking story that got extremely aggressive or something like jaywalking. I think that's ridiculous. So he wants to make sure that his brother's name isn't just another name on the list. And they want a whole law enforcement overhaul. And I think that makes perfect sense. And Nancy Pelosi was there. Kevin McCarthy was there.
Starting point is 00:35:16 And there's this whole conversation now that people are having about defunding the police. So that was another issue that was happening at the same time. All right. And NASCAR has banned Confederate flags at their races. And Bubba Wallace made a statement. He said, the presence of the Confederate flag at NASCAR events runs contrary to our commitment to providing a welcoming
Starting point is 00:35:39 and inclusive environment for all fans, our competitors, and our industry. Bringing people together around a love for racing and the community that it creates is what makes our fans and sports special. The display of the Confederate flag will be prohibited from all NASCAR events and properties. So I think that's good news.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Yeah, you can't dismantle this mechanism of white supremacy. You can't break down the system of systemic racism if you don't intentionally do it. Like these things have to be intentionally done the same way that they were intentionally created. They have to be intentionally done, intentionally dismantled. All right. And yesterday, the Louisville Metro Police Department released the incident report for the night of March 13th. That's when Breonna Taylor was killed by three plainclothes officers who used a battering ram to break into her apartment. She was shot eight times.
Starting point is 00:36:30 And if you saw this, it's pretty much blank. Like most of the details on the incident report are blank. They have her name on there, a case number, the time and date of the shooting. But a lot of the details were left blank, including her date of birth. Blank is the section for injuries, and the section for forced entry is marked off as no, even though they used a battering ram to break down her door. So
Starting point is 00:36:53 yesterday is when they finally released that incident report. Yes. Yeah, so they covered it. They said it's negligence, they said, at best, and an attempt to avoid being held to an official document at worst. So it's negligence, they said, at best, and an attempt to avoid being held to an official document at worst. So it's either they just didn't care and didn't fill out the report because they were being negligent,
Starting point is 00:37:12 or it could also mean that they were trying to make sure that they cover this up. Here's the thing, though. Who holds them accountable for that when they're doing something so obvious? This is an obvious cover-up. We all know that they ran in the wrong house. They didn't have a warrant for that house. They even dropped the charge against Breonna Taylor's boyfriend for shooting back at them. So who holds them accountable?
Starting point is 00:37:32 Who holds them accountable for, number one, running into the wrong house, being negligent, and, number two, clearly trying to cover their ass? Who holds them accountable? Well, that's what needs to happen right now. The FBI is investigating, and, of course, their police department is investigating the shooting, but they haven't even been arrested,
Starting point is 00:37:48 and they haven't even been fired, and they haven't been charged with anything. They're on administrative leave. Very hard for me to believe that FBI is not big brother in this situation. It's all law enforcement. They would all look out for each other. I would think. I could be wrong, but I would think that that's the way that goes
Starting point is 00:38:04 because to me If you fill out a report like that You're clearly trying to cover your ass And we all know you made a mistake So you should be held accountable You can't do negligence And then turn around And try to cover your ass about it
Starting point is 00:38:15 Not in the case like Somebody's dead That is your front page news Alright thank you Miss Yee Now when we come back Ebony K. Williams will be joining us. You know her from State of the Culture. She's been on the show numerous times. She's an attorney. And we're going to talk to her about everything, all right? So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlamagne Degas. We are The Breakfast Club. We have a special guest in the building. We have Ebony K. Williams. Welcome back, sister. So good to see my family. What up, babe? Y'all are doing important work, and I thank you for letting me join you. And congratulations to you, Ebony.
Starting point is 00:38:58 I see you have a new show on Revolt, Black News. So it's going to come out twice a week? Yeah, so we'll be twice weekly, Angela. We'll be Tuesday and Thursday evenings, 9 p.m. Eastern, 6 Pacific time. And it's going to be a fantastic news hour, y'all. I mean, y'all know the best. We've been needing this.
Starting point is 00:39:18 We've been needing news that takes our cultural vantage point and considers our interests, right? And collaborates that with deep analysis and conversation. So it's going to be dope. And I applaud Puff, the chairman, of course, of Revolt and the Revolt leadership team for really making this happen. Let's get to some topics, right?
Starting point is 00:39:38 I want to know why is defund the police such a trigger to people? Why are people so upset about that term? Yeah, people are entirely triggered by it. And here's the thing. We on this platform, in this space, doing the work that we do, we know what that means. When they say defund the police, we know that doesn't mean dismantle the police. We know that simply means the police are, they are out of their lane with a lot of the work that they are asked to do and sometimes take upon themselves to do. So all we're saying is take some of that, some of those millions, and in the case of a state and city like New York, it's billions. They got billion dollar budgets for police here. So we take some of those billions and millions and redistribute that money elsewhere in the community.
Starting point is 00:40:29 So we can have what we've been promised so long, community policing. Right. So that goes to schools, that goes to community centers, that goes to after school programs. So it takes some of that responsibility, if you will, off of police, because they're really not supposed to be doing a lot of that part of it anyway. They need to worry about enforcing laws and let communities take care of themselves. Because defund people think that means take away all the funds, because that is what it means. And what I love with Chance the Rapper,
Starting point is 00:40:57 he said, well, they defund the education system all the time, so I don't see why this is what people are upset about. But I understand what you're saying. But they don't call it that. Right. They don't what you're saying. But they don't call it that. Right. They don't call it, see, they don't call it that. Because if people say we don't defund Social Security, they wouldn't get elected.
Starting point is 00:41:12 If people said they're going to defund Medicare, you know, so people, what do they say instead? We're going to lower taxes. Right. So perhaps that would be the messaging point here, right? What if we said we would like to save people money, all the citizens of America, we'd like to lower your taxes by redistributing the funds for law enforcement. People would probably buy that.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Don't you think it's crazy that we don't even know where the money goes? Like we pay the $6 billion because it comes from our taxpayers' money, but we don't necessarily know where this $6 billion goes. Isn't it weird that they don't open up the books and say, hey, this is where the money's going? Well, it's not weird because a lot of the money is going into their pockets. Oops, did I say that out loud on this platform? Here's the thing, Envy.
Starting point is 00:41:52 You're heading to exactly why, personally, I have extremely conservative fiscal policy politics. I think the government has been a steward of our money since inception. I think we spend billions and millions in ways that we'll never see, whether it's infrastructure, whether it's our roads and highways, our schools hardly publicly are hitting on shit. You know, we're spending money there, but we're not seeing a result. We're spending money on, like you said, billions of dollars on military grade equipment and all this shit.
Starting point is 00:42:24 It's nuts so that's a whole another conversation about uh politics based in uh really financial money grabs you're asking for billions and billions trillions of dollars from us as taxpayers that's our money that's our hard our money y'all be taking a good 40 percent of my income and doing what with it exactly i don't like the return i don't like the return. I don't like the return. You're in a high tax bracket, I can tell. They take 40%. I'm actually in the worst tax bracket, Angela, because I make just enough money to be in the worst bracket, but not enough money to start getting advantage of all of the highest,
Starting point is 00:43:01 the millionaire, the multimillionaire brackets, where now they're getting tax breaks beyond belief. And those people really end up paying closer to 22%. And it's crazy. And it's crazy. You spoke about messaging, which I think is very important. Why can't Democrats get their messaging right? And this is what I mean by that. When you ask Joe Biden about defunding police, I think he got it wrong. I think Senator Harris got it perfectly. Senator Harris explained it the way you explained it. Donald Trump took that defunding police and said they want to defund
Starting point is 00:43:33 the police, they want to abolish the police. Two different things. But it worked. Why did that stick more than what Senator Harris said or Joe Biden said? Well, the answer is cognitive dissonance, which is a way in which people believe what they want to believe. And if you give them just an inch, so that's what Trump does.
Starting point is 00:43:55 He did it in his campaign. What do you call them? Deport the Mexicans. And by that, you know, he says, I just mean the murderers and the rapists and drug dealers. But we saw when it went into actual action, that wasn't who was being deported at all you're deporting children you're deporting you know people that have paid money into our tax system for 30 years you're deporting people that served in our united states military but the messaging was so strong and it's what his base wanted to hear that it worked um so you you know, Biden, messaging ain't his strength, Charlamagne.
Starting point is 00:44:26 What do you want me to say? It ain't his strength. Well, Ebony, another, since we're talking about messaging, right, another thing that you spoke about, and I saw you speaking on this, is the hold your vote hostage and the messaging behind that. So I want you to explain what you said about why it is important for us to not put out that type of messaging. Indeed, indeed, sis. So I personally, I really hate that messaging. And I think it's extremely problematic. I think it's extremely dangerous for two reasons. I'll start with the basic premise that folks in general, and so that includes us as black folks, we don't want to go to vote at the polls no way. We already don't want to do that. So all people need is that reason. So if they get to say idols, like my brother here, Charlemagne, and idols like my boss at Revolt,
Starting point is 00:45:20 Puff, and other major credible leaders in our community are giving them, using my term here, an excuse to stay at home anyway, not have to go out and don't let it be raining on election day. You know I ain't trying to get out there, you know? So then they get to say, ah, don't got to go anyways. We're having a substantive boycott on the issue. And just like in 2016, when you talked about this recently, Charlamagne, on MSNBC, over 4 million people stayed home. Stayed home. And we see the devastating,
Starting point is 00:45:55 and a third of them were black. And Michelle Obama spoke about this in her documentary, Becoming. She's really mad at us. And so, damn, that's what happens when we, to me, abandon our post. That's what we did in 2016. We got to do some backtracking just to get to where we were. It can be done, but it's not going to be done with no messages talking about a hold your vote hostage and boycott the
Starting point is 00:46:16 ballot. That ain't going to do it. Second thing I have with it, Ang, is unpopular opinion. Black people make a huge difference in elections. That is correct, Charlemagne. Don't for one second mistake that as political power. That is not political power. Let me tell you what political power is, Char. Political power is when you can pick up the telephone and you can call your sitting U.S. senator,
Starting point is 00:46:40 your sitting U.S. congressman, your sitting mayor, your sitting governor, your sitting United States president, and they take your call and act. Why? Not because you voted for them, because that's really a kind of back-end transaction, the voting part. Nah, they pay attention to and they are politically powered by front-end transactions. Front-end transactions is funding their campaigns from its onset.
Starting point is 00:47:07 The NRA has political power. You know, we black folks, we love to pay our tithes, and we should do that. But the Jewish community members, I know y'all, treat APAC like it's tithing. They pay it like it's a bill because they know their political life and their community interests depend on hi we have more with Ebony K Williams when we come back so don't move it's a breakfast club good morning EJ envy Angela ye Charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we kicking it with Ebony Kate Williams Charlamagne what about
Starting point is 00:47:38 regular everyday people who just want to leverage their vote or what if regular everyday people decided you know what I going to form my own political party. Black people are going to have their own party like the Tea Party and we're going to vote in blocks. Because everybody's not rich. Everybody can't donate money to the community. No, no, no. But you know what we can do?
Starting point is 00:47:55 We could donate $50 to a PAC, Charlemagne. We should be talking about PACs. So creating a Black PAC or creating your own party? Here's the thing about creating your own party. I'm just going to be candid with you. I would love to see the day in theory that we can have an independent third party because, you know, I'm an independent. I've been one for over 10, 15 years
Starting point is 00:48:14 because I don't really like either one of these parties. We've had this conversation. But these parties, they're too big to fail. The infrastructure behind both the Republican and Democratic Party is hundreds of years old. They've got a trillion dollars, and the infrastructure is too big to fail. The infrastructure behind both the Republican and Democratic Party is 100 years old. They've got a trillion dollars, and the infrastructure is too big to fail. So a third party will always just be symbolic.
Starting point is 00:48:34 That's the truth when it comes to political power play. My recommendation, y'all, for black political power to take that electoral influence that we do have at the polls, don't give it up by boycotting a vote. That's not smart, because then they're going to say, well, damn, black people aren't giving us no money give it up by boycotting a vote. That's not smart. Because then they're going to say, well, damn, black people aren't giving us no money. Black people aren't turning out to vote in general. Because you're not going to get, even if black people did what, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:54 you're potentially suggesting, Char, we didn't go vote for Biden. Most of us are not about to go vote for Trump. So now we just take ourselves out of the equation. And you best believe that train moving forward with or without us. I'm not telling people not to vote. What'm saying is what you're essentially saying we have to find a way to get something for our vote you got to demand something for your vote because if you
Starting point is 00:49:13 vote for a party 90 of the time and you talk about going back to where we were where's the black community going back to black community black community been in shambles all these another thing another thing ebony you pointed out was also talking about just the legislation and just the judges and all of that that's also what donald trump has done while he's in power that's my answer to you charlotte angela just gave it to you what where are black people going back to all of that and that matters to me more than anything you're going to do in four or eight years. Those federal appointments are lifetime, y'all.
Starting point is 00:49:48 And they make decisions about everything from schools to prison to church, freedom, religion. All the basic tenets of our society are actually controlled and dictated to us through the United States Supreme Court and other federal courts, federal appellate courts, federal district courts. So yeah. It's very hard to convince black people in the hood that they can vote their way out of their circumstances because they've never seen it. Doesn't matter. But they can.
Starting point is 00:50:15 I actually agree with you on that. Now that's what we agree, my friend. We cannot vote our way. And that's what I'm saying. That's the voting is simply a starting point. It is when I submit to you, we should not and cannot afford to give up. But I really want to get back to this pact because, to me,
Starting point is 00:50:28 that's the only thing we haven't done yet that I think really could make a difference. So now let me ask you a question. Let's say, like, what Charlamagne and Diddy said. Like, you know what? Hold on, Joe Biden. We're not just going to be black and just say because you're Democrat we're going to vote for you. Let's see what you're going to do for our community first. Let's take a step back. almost feel like as a community like what
Starting point is 00:50:47 the jewish community would do we take a step back and say hold on bro you ain't got our vote yet what are you going to do for our community you look at all these other places you talk about nra they take care of nra they take care of planet hood they take care of the nyp the police commissions and all those but they never take care of us. They haven't even, at least we're not in the game. You need to be able to pick up that call just like the NRA. Yes, we can. Yes, we can. Okay. Okay. Pause, pause everybody for two seconds. I hear you and I hear you loud and clear and you're all making excellent points. That's where I push back. Envy, you're right. The reason why they don't, they take care of those people and they don't never take care of us. They'll never take care of us. We all agree
Starting point is 00:51:31 on that because we not even in the game. That's what y'all, I want you to really get that sharp. We think we're in the game because we show up and we vote religiously, but we're not in the game. Voting doesn't get you in the game. It's only influence. It's not power. And I disagree that we can't do what these communities do. There is a lot of black, not just wealth. Of course, there's individuals in the black community. We have black billionaires. They can write those big $20 million checks to get us started. But that's not really what's going on in APAC. That's not really what's going on in Planned Parenthood. What's happening is everyday people that are deeply passionate about women's reproductive rights and deeply passionate about Israel or deeply passionate about their jobs as police officers or their jobs as teachers, they're giving $2,000 a year religiously.
Starting point is 00:52:22 They might, you know, they're giving $50 a month, religiously, but they're doing it to Envy's point in an organized fashion. Listen, we can't act like collective pressure hasn't changed the conversation. Oh, no! Joe Biden's been talking about race a lot more. He's been saying how you want to dismantle systemic racism. Now that conversation about having a black woman running mate is a real thing at the forefront because up until about a few weeks ago, it was all about claiming Amy Klobuchar. Yuck. Yeah, no, no, no. Listen, I'm not mad. Sorry. I'm not mad at the pressure.
Starting point is 00:52:57 I like the pressure. Keep the block hot. And we need to keep the block hot after this moment that we're in right now, right? So we agree about that. I just, I simply was saying that's, to me, that's, I hope that was a bluff tactic, and I think it's worked in our favor. But to actually stay home on November 3rd, we can't do that. Well, no, you're right. But here's the problem. This is what scared me. If you look at 2016, this looks very similar to 2016. We still don't know how Trump won then. Double digits. No, y'all, no, no, no. Y'all don't know how Trump won then. No, y'all don't know how Trump won. I came on y'all show as soon as that went down. And I told you, I knew because I was inside the building over there at Fox News. I knew they were organized.
Starting point is 00:53:36 They had a singular voting interest. Y'all heard about single issue voters? Trump was elected because of millions and millions and millions and millions of white people across this country that had a single issue. You know what it was? To keep their knee on our necks as black people, as Hispanic people and anybody else that is not of their birthright of whiteness and therefore superiority in America. And Trump ran on that. He ran on it, y'all. Unapologetically. And they voted on that issue.
Starting point is 00:54:07 That's how he won. I knew he was going to win. You know what else they did good that nobody paid attention to? Well, I'm sure they did and you did because you probably, you was over there. But for eight years,
Starting point is 00:54:15 they demonized Barack Obama. Yeah. Made it seem like he was un-American. He was the end of democracy. And we were so happy about Obama. We weren't paying attention to what was getting riled up on the other side. But they definitely wasn't going for no more black people, and definitely wasn't going for a woman after Barack.
Starting point is 00:54:31 They wasn't going for anybody that wasn't aggressively upholding and violently enforcing the status quo of black subordination, women staying in their place, and white men maintaining their implicit power structure in America. Barack Obama said there's a new place for black men in America, and it's in the White House. And these white folks weren't having it. Ebony, what are your predictions for November? I was feeling good, Angela.
Starting point is 00:55:04 I mean, you said that. Well well listen I I think anything's possible in all sincerity I do I do think anything's possible I'm a woman of faith I think when and I do believe he will because I think he knows he really has to I don't think Joe Biden uh is a dumb man and I think he recognizes this moment and I think he has some brilliant black women on his team, including my sister, Simone Sanders, who is going to tell him he really don't have a choice at this point if he wants any kind of black voter turnout, but to put a black woman on that ticket with him. Yeah, he got to. He got to. He got to. Even if he don't want to, it don't matter. He got to. Otherwise, it's going to be 2016 all over again to Shara's point. We will stay home. All right, we got more with Ebony K. Williams when we come back. Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're kicking it with Ebony K. Williams. You're a public defender, right? I was. You prosecuted a lot of cases. I defended a lot of cases. Defending a lot of cases. How difficult would it be to prosecute the killers of George Floyd,
Starting point is 00:56:08 those four officers? How difficult would it be? And why? I'm going to tell y'all it's going to be extremely hard. Don't even get your hopes up. And so Kamala said essentially the same thing on The View just a couple of days ago. I'm going to tell you why.
Starting point is 00:56:22 And I already told you this, Amy. I love you, Amy. I told you this already back in 2018. Because even though we have the cameras and we all saw what happened, the current statute that dictates deadly force for officers simply requires it to be deemed reasonable, you know, and that's open to any kind of interpretation. I'm actually, and I'm so excited to share this with you. This was the main reason I was so looking forward to joining y'all today. In addition to what Corey and Sor Camila have put out, which is important, and I want people to really make noise about that, but the reality is that packaging is very comprehensive. It's extremely broad, and it has zero bipartisan support. Not a single Republican. It's not getting passed.
Starting point is 00:57:11 And it's just not. They can use it as a marketing tool, though. They should use it to say, look what I'm doing, look what we're doing. They won't pass it, but keep applying the pressure. So that win, and this is really how politics are played, and it's brilliant, and it can be very effective. So what they're doing is extremely important and necessary for the work that I'm involved in.
Starting point is 00:57:35 So right now, I'm working with a very experienced legislative team, and you're aware of this work, Charlemagne. You know exactly what I'm referring to. And what we're doing is drafting similar legislation, but that is much more specific, not nearly as broad. And it speaks exactly, like I was like, I'm not even working with y'all if y'all don't get this here on the paper.
Starting point is 00:57:58 We are elevating the deadly force standard from one of fear, reasonable fear, to necessity. Now the burden will be on the officers to prove that deadly force was necessary, absolutely, objectively deemed by a reasonable officer standard necessary to use deadly force. And now when that is the law of the land envy, that is when we will see some kind of convictions for the killers of George Floyd. But right now it's not there. But we're working on it. I'm excited about it. We're trying to get it passed.
Starting point is 00:58:34 We're literally drafting it with Democrat and Republican co-sponsors. So that will be brought into the table. I told you this, y'all, you didn't want to hear it in 2018, but you appreciated my point, which is sad, but true. Law enforcement has to be a part of this conversation. So the legislation we're drafting, we're getting, if not full buy-in consideration from law enforcement organizations across the country, particularly black law enforcement organizations, because when we do this, y'all, it makes officers safer. That's the truth. They get safer when they are accountable because the black community and other communities of color or oppression are not, there's more trust. There's more trust between the communities. So yeah, I'm excited to work on it. It will be rolled out very soon. You will be
Starting point is 00:59:23 hearing details, all of y'all about it and your audience. And when it is rolled out, this is where I need people to step up. Because people have been DMing me, Char, you did me a huge favor and I appreciate you so much, brother. You posted that 2018 video recently on your Instagram. And now I'm flooded with DMs. I'm going to tell you
Starting point is 00:59:39 what you need to do is when I come back here or, you know, relate it to y'all and you guys relate it to your audience and I tell you this is the legislation, make noise. Put it on social. Call your congressmen and women. Call your senators, literally. And when there is a groundswell that looks like this protest movement that's going on right now, they will have no other choice but to pass because this will be our mandate. That's what it looks like you said something that's very important because you know it does get frustrating when people
Starting point is 01:00:08 act like certain folks aren't doing the work so like just because you don't see us on the front line the protest doesn't mean that things aren't getting done because it's a lot of things moving that people have no idea and by the way that's the way i think black people i think that's the way we should move keep our heads we got to keep our heads down and do the work, that's the way I think black people, I think that's the way we should move. We have to move. We got to keep our heads down and do the work. And that's important. That's so important, Char. And I know every single one of us in this conversation is doing a lot behind the scenes. And I think there's definitely space for different people to have different roles.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Some people will be on the front lines. Some people will move behind the scenes. Yeah. Both of those. Listen, sister, the work Sister Tamika Mallory is doing is transformative. You know, the power of visibility. Until freedom.
Starting point is 01:00:52 And right now, I spoke to her yesterday and she can't even say where she is because she's getting so many death threats because she is so visible. But she's got this
Starting point is 01:01:00 doing the work. She's so powerful. Yeah, man. So that arm of it has to be in gear. Like, it's a process, y'all. Well, thank you, Ebony. We appreciate you so much. I think, you know, when you come on this platform
Starting point is 01:01:14 and you're able to speak about all these different things that might be confusing for some of us and bring some clarity, it is really beneficial and helpful. And I know, as always, just so intelligent. Heart is in the right place. Excited for your new show on Revolt TV, Black News.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Thank you. Congratulations. Love everything. I love everything you're doing, Angela. You are still, you know, so boss, so entrepreneurial beyond the media work. I love what you're doing in real estate.
Starting point is 01:01:38 I love what you're doing in the Brooklyn community. You're just fantastic, sister. And you're such a queen and we love you. Shaw, you know how I feel about you bruh it goes no bounds I truly credit you solely for
Starting point is 01:01:50 introducing me to this aspect of our culture from a media standpoint but not for you me hosting Black News on Revolt probably would not be happening and I'm aware of that and I'm grateful to you for that Envy you and what you represent for the culture,
Starting point is 01:02:05 your family is so beautiful. Your leadership and your family model is beautiful and powerful to me. And I just appreciate y'all. What you guys stand for in the culture, it's invaluable. So love y'all. Love y'all.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Love you too. All right, Envy. Bye. It's about time. What's going on? Rumor Report. Rumor Report. This is the Rumor Report. Rumor Report. This is the Rumor Report.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Talk to them. With Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Well, Trevor Noah interviewed Joe Biden on his daily social distancing show. And amongst the things they talked about was what are some of the fears that Joe Biden has in the upcoming elections. Here's what he had to say. My single greatest concern. This president is going to try to steal this election. This is a guy who said that all mail-in ballots are fraudulent.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Voting by mail. While he sits behind the desk in the Oval Office and writes his mail-in ballot to vote in the primary. Duh, yes. I've been saying that. We don't even know how Donald Trump won in 2016. And it's the same exact scenario now. Hillary was leading all the polls in double digits.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Members of the GOP were saying they don't support Trump. You had Russian interference, voter suppression, voter depression because people weren't enthused about Hillary, and we're facing all those same things this year. So, yeah, that's why when I hear Democrats say the only way to beat that is to have the largest voter turnout in U.S. history, I'm sitting there thinking, like, well, hope is not a strategy how you gonna make that happen you gotta make that happen lean into your base your base is black people i had a black woman running mate come up
Starting point is 01:03:34 with a radical police reform policy radical criminal justice reform policy and atone for america's original sin which is slavery god damn it with reparations another thing that they discussed was joe biden as you know is not does not want to defund the police and here's what he had to say about defunding the police and what he does think should happen i don't believe peace should be defunded but i think the conditions should be placed upon them or departments are having to take significant reforms relating to we should set up a national use of force standard. If they don't sign on to it, then, in fact, they don't get any of the federal money. In addition, that they have to demonstrate that they'll release all the data
Starting point is 01:04:15 that relates to misconduct by police. That all has to be sent to the Justice Department. If they don't send it to the Justice Department nationally, they don't get funding. I just think they need to change the word defund since the word defund is, um, absolutely. They don't understand that word. It's such a trigger. Yeah, because I get it. Well, the definition really is to take away the funds. So that's what it is. And some people are saying they want to dismantle the police department and defund the police department. Some people are saying, no, we want to reallocate that money. So that's what's confusing.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Yeah, exactly. And that's exactly what it is, is a reallocation. You're taking money from them big-ass police budgets and putting it back into the community. It's really a simple concept. They just need to come up with a better way to, I guess, frame it. Right. And there's also different people who want different things. So you just have to be, I think, very specific because then people hear these huge talking points and then it's not broken down.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Right. All right. You'd be a fool to want to abolish the police or disband the police. Like you need some type of law and order. I just think you need police officers from the community that understand the community. That's what I think you need. Police reform. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:24 And they do have some places where they did dismantle a whole police department. So that's also what's confusing because then people are bringing that up and they're like, oh, well, this worked in this town in Jersey, so this could work somewhere else. And that's really what it is.
Starting point is 01:05:37 So different people are asking for different things. So it's important to be specific with what your ask is. All right, Beyonce is reportedly set to sign a $100 million Disney deal, which is huge. And they're saying she's been a major player for Disney and she's a perfect fit for the brand. She voiced Nala in The Lion King and she's working on a number of different projects for them.
Starting point is 01:05:58 She's going to be voicing Nala in the reboot of, well, besides that, they're also trying to secure her for some more projects as well. She'll be on the soundtrack for the Black Panther 2 movie that's coming out in 2021 and two additional blockbusters. And she's also providing music for a Disney film soundtrack. So they're saying she could also continue her work as a voice actress. Yeah, I saw one of Beyonce's reps deny that.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Yeah, they denied that yesterday. I wonder why. Like, I wonder why they would deny. I mean, it's not, because it's not Beyonce's reps deny that. Yeah, they denied that yesterday. I wonder why. I wonder why they would deny. I mean, it's not like it's bad news. Yeah, but maybe they were in trouble. Maybe they want more money. You know what I mean? And it also is that they're not saying that she has signed the deal.
Starting point is 01:06:36 They said that she's in talks about it. So maybe they're denying that deal is done. I don't know. But the rep denied it. The rep denied it. I don't know. All right. The Wendy Williams Show has I don't know. All right. The Wendy Williams show
Starting point is 01:06:46 has been renewed for a 12th season. So congratulations to her. She said, I want to go, you know, she's been wanting to go back and do the show.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Right now, they're not on the air. Obviously, she's been dealing with her Graves disease, but they have already decided to renew that show even though they're
Starting point is 01:07:02 on hiatus right now. We're dropping the clues bombs for Wendy Williams. That's good. I'm glad that Wendy's still getting her money. Let's shout to Wendy. Still getting her money. I'm sure she'll have DJ Suss1 on there a few more times getting his check.
Starting point is 01:07:14 You know? So salute to them. Suss1 DJ on there too? Yeah, Suss1 done been on Wendy a couple times. You ain't never seen Wendy on there lusting over Suss1? No. We love her some Suss1. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:24 They're the same height, because I think she's like 6'2", 6'3". He's like 6'2", 6'3". They would be a great couple. Yeah. I'm not even joking. I think DJ Sus One and Wendy Williams would be a good couple. That's right. Sus doesn't have a girlfriend?
Starting point is 01:07:43 No. The Poohs. The Poohs. I like that. We need to make the Poohs happen. Yeah, I like that. Susy Poo and Wendy Poo. The Poo's. We need to make the Poo's happen. Sussie Poo and Wendy Poo. Let's put that together. Wendy's birthday is next month. She's a cancer like I am.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Maybe we can make something happen. Make something official happen between DJ Suss One and Wendy Williams. Sussie Poo and Wendy Poo. Sussie Poo and Wendy Poo. I like that. Now you're thinking. I Williams. I like that. Sussy Poo and Wendy Poo. Sussy Poo and Wendy. I like that. Now you're thinking. I do. I like that.
Starting point is 01:08:07 I do. All right. Well, there you go. I'm Angela Yee, and that's your rumor report. See, there you go. You ain't never seen Suss 1 on Wendy's show? When Wendy be making Suss come from behind the DJ booth and walk like a runaway model?
Starting point is 01:08:18 Really? She be like, come over here, Suss. Walk for me. What? You never seen that? Wow. No, I never seen that. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:08:23 It's so adorable. Oh, my goodness. That's... Dusty having his nice first day of school outfits on. That's wow. Drop one of those bombs for DJ Suss1. Drop one of those bombs for the Poohs. That's right. That sounds like royal love right there. Dusty Pooh and Wendy Pooh. I like that. I like the energy between them.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Alright. Now, when we come back, who you giving that donkey to, Charlemagne? I don't know, man. I'll be honest with you. I'm just in here pretending to be happy this morning. Now, when we come back, who are you giving that donkey to, Charlemagne? I don't know, man. I'll be honest with you. I'm just in here pretending to be happy this morning. So I'll figure it out. All right. And don't forget, next hour, we do Ask Ye. So you can get on the phone lines right now, 800-585-1051. If you need relationship advice, hit Ye right now.
Starting point is 01:08:57 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. You get donkey at a date. Yeah, you dumbass. You get donkey at a date. Yeah, you dumbass. You are a donkey. It's time for Donkey of the Day. Donkey of the Day, huh? I'm going to fatten all that shit around your eyes. They want this man to throw them blows, man. They wait for Charlamagne to tap them gloves.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Let's go. You have to make a judgment of who was going to be on the Donkey of the Day. They chose you. This is a breakfast club, bitchy. Who's Donkey of the day today? Donkey of the day for Thursday, June 11th goes to Bob Herrien and his wife, Tamara. Is it Tamara or Tamara?
Starting point is 01:09:34 I never heard a white woman named Tamara or Tamara, but if you don't know who Tamara is, she's the latest Karen caught on camera harassing people who are not the same honky-colored hue as her. Okay, this human jar of Hellman's had the nerve to make a racist comment to a young lady by the name of Karina Rodriguez. Drop on the clues bombs for Karina Rodriguez. Okay, let's go to KPNX NBC 12 to hear what happened. Now, a husband is apologizing after a racist tirade by his wife went viral. Where were you born?
Starting point is 01:10:05 I was born in America. Where are your ancestors from? They're not from this country. You're going back to Mexico. You better go back to where you're from. You just walked into our... You just left. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Ladies, ladies. Oh, my God. Ladies. Greg Kahn captured the now viral confrontation on camera at a super pumper gas station near 7th Street in Greenway in North Phoenix. Are you the manager? Yes, you need to leave. We're not serving you. Don't serve her. Yeah, you're not serving her.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Don't serve her racist. That was Karina's response to Tamara. Tamara's husband now admits her remarks are unacceptable and is apologizing to Karina, the woman on the receiving end of those racist remarks. See, Bob says his wife is not the manager at the gas station and claims she has suffered from an undiagnosed mental illness that she has refused to get treated for more than a year. Y'all remember that story, right? See, our forever first lady, Michelle Obama, says when you go low, we go high. Well, your uncle Charlotte says when they go low, take it to you're a woman, of course. My wife would do that. But if you are a male of the white race, you're getting these melanin-covered mittens applied to your nose bone if you approach me with some type of racist slur, okay? Now, Tamara got smacked, and she did what most racist Karens do after instigating a situation and then suffering consequences from it, and that's play the victim. Now, Tamara's husband, Bob, was on Foxton and Phoenix, and he decided to apologize for his wife's Tamara's behavior.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Let's hear what Bob had to say. Karina, I don't know what to say. I'm just so sorry. I'm just so sorry that this happened. You never walked into that store thinking something like this was going to happen. I understand. I'm sorry for what she said. It was very hateful.
Starting point is 01:12:10 It was, it's indefensible. But I just have to tell you this. It's her mental illness. A year ago, she would never have done, would never have even thought of that. I'm going to tell you something. I believe him. Racism is a mental illness.
Starting point is 01:12:26 It has to be. Yes, it's a learned behavior as well, but I do think there's some learned behaviors that can drive you crazy, okay, because a lot of learned behaviors just aren't healthy, and racism is one of them. Just think about racism, the pure definition of racism, prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. You simply don't like someone.
Starting point is 01:12:51 You simply look down on someone because of what they are, because of what they were born as. That doesn't seem like some sort of paranoid schizophrenia to you. Bob said he's not excusing Tamara's racist rant, but says her mental illness started a year ago because of a break-in at their home. And he says she developed paranoia and signs of fabrication, and he hopes the slap video will be enough to convince Tamara to seek treatment for her issues. I need to know the race of the person who broke in our house. If the person was a white man, would she still be afraid? Would she still be paranoid? And if you are so afraid of people, why are you running down on them?
Starting point is 01:13:28 If you're so afraid of a person, you stay away from them, not press them. You social distance from them when you're afraid of them, okay? You don't run up on them in stores and call them racial slurs. Now, Bob, once again, said he hopes the slap is the wake-up call Tamara needs, and that's the way life works. So I want everyone out there listening to me to be wise and not just smart. Be wise because smart people learn from their own mistakes. Wise people learn from the mistakes of others.
Starting point is 01:13:55 So either learn from people like Tamara or life might have to slap you in the face to get your attention. Please let Kathy Griffin give Tamara Herrien the biggest hee-hathy griffin give tamara harian the biggest he ha please give this giant jar of mail the biggest hee haw all right well thank you for that by the way yeah i just faked my way through donkey today though i've been faking the whole show i'm not in the mood i don't feel like it i honestly don't even uh want to be here but then again i do want to be here because running your mouth is therapeutic. And I need at least a two-hour therapy session today because it's very hard to discuss so much other meaningless stuff when you have heavy things on your mind.
Starting point is 01:14:34 And I am highly confused this morning because yesterday I lost a good friend, a homie, a creative partner who goes by the name of Jasmine Waters, a.k.a. Jazz Fly. And Jazz is someone who I spoke to a lot, not just spoke to, but leaned on, went to for support, went to for advice. She always knew the right things to say. She always had the realest, most meaningful things, you know, to say. She did not waste words. And I'm still downloading, processing what happened yesterday. And I haven't allowed myself the opportunity to feel my feels yet.
Starting point is 01:15:03 I just want to encourage people to check on your strong friends often because usually your strong friends are the go-to, and when the go-to doesn't have anyone to go to, that can be a scary, lonely feeling. And strong friends, when you get checked on, it's okay to be vulnerable. It's okay to be perceived as weak. Weak is fleeting. We all get weak.
Starting point is 01:15:19 That's why you have a tribe. That's why you have a village. Nobody will fall if everyone is each other's crutches. But please find someone to talk to if you haven't. Okay, if you haven't tried therapy, go. We all need it. If you need a grief counselor, find one, psychiatrist, something. Just find someone to talk to, please.
Starting point is 01:15:35 I don't care what you are going through on this planet. You are not alone. So RIP to my homie Jasmine Waters, a.k.a. Jazz Fly. And as I sit contemplating the meaning of life this morning, because when people close to you pass, you start questioning your own mortality and you start thinking about life and what does it all mean. And per usual, even though she's not here physically,
Starting point is 01:15:56 Jasmine is giving me the answers. So listen to Jazz wax poetic about what she feels the meaning of life is. I can't speak for anybody else. I think for me, I, it's about figuring out who I am. That's been my process. And for me, it came from a surrender moment. And from there, it has been a 10 year journey or so since. And I think that that's where I started to just sort of whittle away piece by piece. Oh, this is, I'm the person that like, I'm hardheaded. They told me for years, don't touch the iron.
Starting point is 01:16:34 And then when I was four, I walked into the iron and just laid my hand on it and got three degree burns. Like I'm that person. So I'm the person that like needs to be, I need to figure out what I'm not in order to figure out who I am. And that's been a journey for me. But at the end of that was joy. You got to find the joy.
Starting point is 01:16:54 All right. I'll find it. Rest in peace, Jazz Fly. We'll all find it soon enough. And condolences to you, bro, and definitely her family and friends. All right. Yes. All right.
Starting point is 01:17:03 Up next is Ask Yee. 800-585-1051. If you need relationship advice or any type of advice, call Yee now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. What, what, what, what, what, what you want to know? Baby mama issues? Need some words of wisdom?
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Starting point is 01:17:32 Keep it real. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Ye, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. It's time for Ask Ye. Hello, who's this? This is Roll from the south side of Jacksonville. Hey, what's your question for Yee?
Starting point is 01:17:45 I'm trying to see how can I con my baby mama about taking me off that child support. Okay, so she's not willing to do that, or you're trying to figure out the steps of going to the court where you first got the child support order? Well, I know the steps to the court,
Starting point is 01:18:02 but it's like, how do I explain to her, like, as far as being a black woman, like, I have stipulations on this black man about not being there for our child. Like, my child, she's only three years old, and I've been in her life since the beginning. And the situation where my baby mama had, you know what I'm saying, got me put in jail because of the situation. I don't want to put it out, but she got me put in jail. I got out. I got a job, and now she put me on back child support. You know, I'm not mad that I'm on child support, but it's like back child support, you know what I'm saying? And I've been in my child's life since she was from the beginning. She's only three. How do I get her to understand,
Starting point is 01:18:39 you know what I'm saying? My point of view, I can't get a stimulus check. You know what I'm saying? I'm a central worker. I have a pretty good job, but I can't get any tax returns, you know what I'm saying? I'm trying to be a black-owned business owner, but I can't because it's like I'm stuck. And she don't understand, like, I don't think she really understands, like,
Starting point is 01:18:58 what she did and how much it affects me and how much, you know what I'm saying, I really can't move now, and the whole reason why I want to move is because of my daughter. I know you said you've been in your child's life, but have you been financially supporting your child? Yeah, since the beginning. I mean, since she was, you know, since she was only three. So what you guys need to do is I would, if I would, oh, you're in a different relationship, you said now?
Starting point is 01:19:23 Yeah, we're both in a different relationship. You know what I'm saying? We're all cordial. You're in a different relationship, you said now? Yeah, we're both in a different relationship. Okay. We're all cordial. It's never any type of, you know, thing going on with us. But it's like me and my baby mama can never seem to see eye to eye. And it's all about the child. But it's like to her, it's like she don't get that. It's like the only reason why she'm in this why she put me in this
Starting point is 01:19:45 predicament is because of how she felt you know saying before my daughter why don't y'all try to compromise because i think a lot of things when it comes to stuff like this compromise is always the best answer so maybe there's a way that you guys can do just a written agreement with each other that you'll give her an extra certain amount of money or whatever per month until that's paid off if she'll take you off a court- back support of child payment, child support payments. A written agreement? Yeah, just you and her. You have a written agreement.
Starting point is 01:20:14 Somebody witnesses it. You can sign it and that will stand in the court. But that way she might feel more comfortable knowing that you'll do it. But that way she's taking you off of that back payments so that it's not in the court system so you can move and do what you need to do because I think that's a good proposition for you to come to her with. Maybe it's an amount that y'all agree on and you'll say for the
Starting point is 01:20:34 next, you know, two years I'll give you an additional $300 or whatever additional to add up to whatever amount y'all agree on if she will take off that court-ordered back child support. Alright, I mean I try I mean, I feel like I done tried it before, man. It's so hard for a black man, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:20:51 Especially the ones that are actually in their child's life, you know? You proposed that compromise to her where you said, I'll do this, but I just don't want it to be court-ordered through the courts? Right, but yeah, but it's like she's scared that, you know what I'm saying, when she do that, like, it's like she's scared that, you know what I'm saying? When she do that, like I won't give her no money.
Starting point is 01:21:08 You know what I'm saying? Even when I was, even when she put me on child support, when I got money, like the court didn't even know. And at that time, I didn't even know that she put me on child support and I would still give her money. Money is not the issue. Money is not the issue. The issue is just the fact that she got me in the court system. I know, that's what I'm saying. And that's why I think if y'all do just between
Starting point is 01:21:30 y'all to a written agreement, get it notarized so she has it, she might be more comfortable knowing. And then if you breach that, then tell her she could put you back on. Just make sure you handle your responsibilities. 28.04. Alright, Angie, I appreciate it. I heard you get that gas and f***ing pose it.
Starting point is 01:21:44 I heard you order that gas. I'm sorry. I heard you ordered that gas. He tried to say it fast as hell. 20 on 4. 20 on 4. 20 on 4, please. I'm hustling. I ain't mad at you, brother.
Starting point is 01:21:58 I'm telling you, compromise. Just come to her with a solution. A lot of times we have issues. Take me off. This is stoppin' this, but here's a solution so that both of you can get what it is that you need. Okay. I propose to Edgley. I appreciate all of y'all, man. I appreciate what y'all do for us, man.
Starting point is 01:22:14 And y'all just keep doing it because, you know, that's what we need. We need a voice. You know, we need a voice. Okay. And let us know what happens. Ask Yee. 800-585-1051. If you need relationship advice,
Starting point is 01:22:25 hit Yee now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Get some real advice with Angela Yee. It's Ask Yee. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Starting point is 01:22:38 We are The Breakfast Club. We're in the middle of Ask Yee. Hello, who's this? Hey, Katie. Hey, Katie. What's your question for Yee? So I recently got out of a 10-year relationship, and it was very unhealthy for me and my kids. And towards the end of that relationship,
Starting point is 01:22:56 I met someone, and he was more of a friend, and now it's turned into more than that. But he's been hurt, so he's kind of like not able to receive love I guess and he's telling me that um it's too soon for me to love him or too soon for me to try to have a relationship again after being hurt so he's saying he doesn't want to be in a relationship you guys are just dating right now right but like Like, in a sense, you know how you can, everything that someone does shows love
Starting point is 01:23:27 or shows compassion or whatever. Like, the way that he treats me or the things that he says shows more than just dating. Right, so he's treating you like you guys are in a relationship, but he doesn't want to make that commitment. Right.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Well, first of all, I always feel like you can't force people to want to be where you're at. And at least he's being honest with you, right, about how he feels. And so you can accept that and then work with him toward that and be patient because you've been through a lot as well. And I think sometimes when, you know, you're getting out of a 10-year relationship and you are used to being with somebody on a level that you guys are in something and that's your comfortable space but you have to understand that everybody's not moving at the pace that you might want to move
Starting point is 01:24:13 right so do I give up or do I just continue to be who I am and you know show that I care and well I don't think you should ever not be who you are. That's important. And I think you should continue to show that you care. And you should also express where you want to be in your relationship. So you should let him know, look, this is what I would like. This is how I feel about you. Now, you're telling me that right now
Starting point is 01:24:38 you're not in the space to be able to receive that. This is not what you want right now. And so I know I can't force that. And you know, you should see how does he want to proceed? Is he I know I can't force that and you know you should see how does he want to proceed is he fine with things just the way that they are with you guys acting like you're in a relationship and not being in one is he fine with that well he makes it seem like you know there's something to work towards it's never been like okay we're just doing this and it's not going
Starting point is 01:25:05 anywhere. But once it's like, once you tell him that you care, he pulls away a little bit. And how long has it been? Um, going on seven months now. Okay. Yeah. I mean, look, it takes people a long time. Like he's been through some things where he has trust issues. Has he gotten any professional help? Um, not that I i know of i know that he's been out of a relationship for three years and pretty much been single so i think that he's more learning himself now than he is worried about you know like commitment right and i think that's fine he tells me i need to do right and he probably is also a little nervous because you are coming off of a 10-year relationship so he doesn't want to be a rebound situation and then get his feelings hurt.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Right. I think you just have to be patient and I think you should continue to show him the love that you show him. He treats you well, right? Oh yeah, definitely. Is he seeing other people? No. And you guys have had that conversation and he doesn't intend to and doesn't want to. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:26:07 I think that you just have to be a little more patient and understanding of his situation. He's probably also a little nervous about you and he wants to make sure that you're serious because like I said, he might look at it like, well, she's really comfortable being with someone. They did just break up. It was 10 years. That's a long time. I don't want to make myself vulnerable.
Starting point is 01:26:30 And until he feels like he can make that happen, you know, I think is probably difficult for him as well. And so sometimes people also are scared of just saying that they're in a relationship, even though they act like they are too. Right. You know, so I think that if you're happy right now with everything else, except you don't have that title, then I think that if you're happy right now with everything else except you don't have that title, then I think it's worth you pursuing this further as long as he's treating you really well right now and you feel like he, in his head, is working towards that. He's just not there yet. Yeah, I do. Okay. Well, enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:26:58 All right. I appreciate it. No problem, Katie. Good luck. All right. Thanks. All right. Ask Yee.
Starting point is 01:27:04 800-585-1051. Now, you got rumors on the way, Yee? Yes, and since we're talking relationships, let's talk about somebody who says that when she first met her now husband, she thought he was arrogant. And now look at where they are. All right.
Starting point is 01:27:19 We'll get into that next Don't Move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. She's spilling the tea. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Well, Alicia Keys is on the cover of InStyle magazine, and one thing that she talked about in her interview
Starting point is 01:27:41 was how when she first, well, before she started dating Swish, she thought he was just arrogant. She said she had read an interview where he talked about writing many of his best songs in 10 minutes and she herself would spend days obsessing over every chord progression.
Starting point is 01:27:56 So she told her friend, of course he does his songs in 10 minutes. Have you heard his songs? But then the two of them eventually met and she said, we got in the studio and started working together she said we literally made a song in 10 minutes and I was like aww-ish
Starting point is 01:28:09 she said his style wasn't about haste or carelessness but inspiration and tapping into a place that's all feeling and emotion and spirit so that's when they started dating it clearly worked shout out to the 10 minute man Swiss Beats I don't think he was like out to the 10-Minute Man, Swizz Beatz.
Starting point is 01:28:27 I don't think he was like that one, the 10-Minute Man. She said, I also began to understand that my humility was sometimes a mask for self-worth issues. I would say, oh, I don't need much. I only need a little bit and I'm fine.
Starting point is 01:28:38 She said, I was kind of cutting off my blessings, but I started to recognize I have this wrong. So she said, they have a tradition where they try to out-spoil each other with extravagant surprises on have this wrong so she said they have a tradition where they try to out spoil each other with extravagant surprises on their birthdays and she said I can
Starting point is 01:28:50 remain totally humble but I don't have to cut off the wonderful things that I deserve that's dope yeah that's a great way of thinking of it and you should spoil a person that you wish you love and why not all right now another relationship news Stevie J says that he and Faith are still together even though she had gotten arrested for domestic violence. And he set the record straight about things. He said, that's my wife and I love her. I'm not going anywhere. God's got us.
Starting point is 01:29:14 And there's video of them and she's like, all mine. So it looks like the two of them, whatever happened back then, we don't know what went down. But they are still together for people who thought maybe they weren't. Now, Sephora has said they will dedicate 15% of shelf space for Black-owned brands, and they're taking that pledge. They're the first major retailer in the U.S. to take the 15% pledge. That's a movement that started earlier this month with demonstrations after the death of George Floyd and a national conversation about race inequality. So that pledge calls on Sephora, Target, Whole Foods, and Shopbop to make that commitment. Now, the person who actually created that is Aurora James, and she's the creative director of a Brooklyn-based accessory company
Starting point is 01:29:54 called Brother Vellies. She said it's about a long-term commitment to the Black community. Starbucks, in the meantime, is closing up to 400 stores to try to shift to a more takeout strategy. So they're going to do that over the course of the next 18 months in the U.S. and in Canada. And at the same time, they'll be adding carry out and pickup locations only. Makes sense. And the CEO of Twitter, Jack Dorsey, says that they're going to make Juneteenth an official company holiday for their U.S. workers. So that's going to happen. Well, we don't work at Twitter, but we should.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Well, I heart. Can we get that? Well, we could take off. We could take off. We could definitely take off. Okay. I think it's on a, oh, yeah, no, June 9th. A Friday.
Starting point is 01:30:38 It's on a Friday. It's on a Friday. I think that's a Friday. So that'll be something that they do for all of his companies. He has Square, you know, Twitter and so forth. So he said, we will do the work to make those dates company holidays everywhere where we are present. All right. And last, oh, and Iggy Azalea has confirmed that she has a son. Everybody was talking about when she was pregnant and, you know, she's with Playboy Cardi. So now she has finally confirmed the news.
Starting point is 01:31:05 She wants people to know it wasn't a secret. She said, I kept waiting for the right time to say something, but it feels like the more time passes, the more I realize I'm always going to feel anxious to share news that giant with the world. I want to keep his life private, but I wanted to make it clear he's not a secret, and I love him beyond words. So that's your child.
Starting point is 01:31:22 You have the right to announce whatever you want whenever you want. Exactly. Drop on the clues bombs for young Iggy Azalea. Yeah, congratulations to them. Alright, I'm Angela Yee and that is your rumor report. Y'all not gonna talk about the trouble that we got into yesterday? What trouble? Oh, interviewing
Starting point is 01:31:39 Russell Simmons? Did we get in trouble? I was gonna say, listen, I mean people were upset but here's the thing. I just going to say, listen, I mean, people were upset, but here's the thing. I just want to say to every single one of those young ladies, they have the right to be heard. They have the right to be listened to. They have a whole documentary out on HBO Max. What's the name of the documentary?
Starting point is 01:31:56 On the Record. On the Record. I've seen them do interviews a few places. They are free to come to the Breakfast Club, even though no publicist reached out to us to book them. But if they did, we wouldn't deny them because clearly we don't deny anybody. All right. Explain the process of the Breakfast Club and when artists come up here. Yeah, normally a publicist reaches out or sometimes people reach out themselves to our producer.
Starting point is 01:32:17 But a lot of times it also happens where my booking email is on all of my social media pages. So people can email there. And if any of the women want to come on, and I said this while we were off there yesterday, we should have them on the show, but we didn't reach out to Russell Simmons for him to come on. They reached out to us and that's how it happens most of the time with our guests. So we are 90,
Starting point is 01:32:39 90, 95% of the time. It's a PR person or public network or the artist themselves reach out. Russell Simmons PR reached out. And of course we would have Russ on. Why? Because he has allegations. He hasn't been charged with anything.
Starting point is 01:32:56 He hasn't been convicted of anything. It's allegations. And there's always two sides to every story. The same way they can tell their story, those young ladies, Russell can tell his story. And media outlets would definitely have him on. Oprah would talk to Russell Simmons. Gayle King would talk to Russell Simmons. CNN, MSNBC would talk to Russell Simmons because that's what media outlets do. So yes, if any of those women want to come on Breakfast Club, they can. Interviewing somebody is not a cosign for them either, by the way. People were saying,
Starting point is 01:33:23 oh, would y'all have interviewed Harvey Weinstein? Absolutely. I would love to hear what he has to say about everything. Because I also think that what he says, some people look at it and say, okay, he did that. Some people might look at it and be like, okay, I can understand. However you look at it, you look at it. But it's not us trying to say he's innocent. That's definitely not what that's about at all.
Starting point is 01:33:43 I don't know about Harvey. Now, Yee, I don't know about Harvey. I would be here for I don't know if I would want to interview Harvey Weinstein. He's been convicted. He's even admitted his guilt, right? I think. I don't think I would want to. You never know
Starting point is 01:34:00 what people might say though and people say things that incriminate themselves all the time in an interview. As a matter of fact, when people criticize Oprah for not interviewing Harvey, she said she wanted to and reached out
Starting point is 01:34:10 but he wouldn't do any interviews. That is true. I remember that because I remember his lawyer, I think his lawyer did an interview with Oprah or something like that or with Gayle.
Starting point is 01:34:18 His lawyer talked to either Gayle or Oprah. I'm not sure. I don't know if I would sit down with Harvey. I don't know. Russell's a little different because of Russell's background in hip-hop and the fact that, you know, it's just allegations, you know.
Starting point is 01:34:32 He hasn't been charged. He hasn't been charged, right. He hasn't been arrested. He hasn't been convicted. Yeah, well, anyway. I don't know. But listen, once again, those women are more than welcome to come, but your PR got to reach out.
Starting point is 01:34:45 We didn't reach out to Russell. His PR reached out. They can reach out direct. If you don't have a publicist, reach out, but send an email or even a DM and say, hey, I want to see if I can get booked on the show. And then what happens is we'll send you our producer's information, and then he will schedule the time. Simple as that.
Starting point is 01:35:01 All right. All right. Well, shout to a revolt. We'll see you tomorrow everybody else the people's choice mixes up next it's the breakfast club good morning we are the breakfast club all right now rest in peace to jazz fly now uh charlamagne just just tell people who jazz fly was and what she meant to you what she meant to this world what she meant to our industry jazz fly is um someone who i used to call the Oracle because whenever I had a difficult decision to make or needed some advice on something,
Starting point is 01:35:34 she just always had the right words to say, not just the right words, but real words. And it was things that you could actually apply to your life, apply to your situation, and it would benefit you. And she was just a good friend, a good friend, a confidant, a wartime, what's that word? Wartime conciliar, conciliar. I can't remember the word. Consigliary. I used to always mispronounce it.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Yeah, concigliary. I used to always mispronounce it. Yeah, I just, I don't know, man. I'm not, I don't know. Jazz, she was a great person, great human being. And this has been a very difficult morning. Yesterday was very difficult. Getting that phone call yesterday and hearing that news,
Starting point is 01:36:17 I have not fully processed it at all. Not even a little bit. But rest in peace to Jasmine Waters. Well, again, sorry for your loss bit. Rest in peace to Jasmine Waters. Well, again, sorry for your loss and definitely rest in peace to Jazz Fly. Alright. When we come back, we got the positive note. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
Starting point is 01:36:34 everybody. It's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Alright. Shout to Ebony K. Williams for joining us this morning. Yes. Appreciate her point of view. Always. Salute to Ebony K.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Now, Charlamagne, you got a positive note? Yeah, man. I just want to simply say avoiding certain people to protect your emotional mental health is not weakness. It's wisdom. Breakfast club, bitches! You all finished or y'all done? Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine.
Starting point is 01:37:11 I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets.
Starting point is 01:37:25 Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's. Listen to Escape from Zaka-stan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-a-stan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more.
Starting point is 01:37:46 After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love.
Starting point is 01:38:24 I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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