The Breakfast Club - Flashback to Travis Scott interview and more

Episode Date: January 3, 2022

Today on the show we first flashed back to our interview with rapper Pooh Shiesty, who spoke on being signed with Gucci Mane, southern energy, new music and more. Also, we flashed back when Charlamagne had the chance to speak to Travis Scott on the unfortunate fatalities and injuries that occured during his concert in Houston a few months ago. Moreover, we also flashed back to when Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to himself for letting the newest rap music influenced him to thinking he was really about the gangbang life, and afterwards having listeners call up to see if they have felt influenced by rap music as well. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, who's this? What's up, BNV? It's Courtney from Atlanta. What's up, brother? What up, Sharla? Peace, King. Get it off your chest. Man, I want to get it off my chest, man.

I'm sick of the Facebook fries, the Instagram idiots, the Twitter thugs. Man, you can't post your opinion without somebody trying to counsel you or the negativity. Like, I'm just over it. People be asking me, they be like, why won't you get off? But it's like it's addicting, man. I'm a nerd, so it's kind of hard to, like, come home from a stressful day of work and, like, find something to do.

So you scroll through social media. But all it is is negativity, man. Uncle Charles, send me a book, doctor. I will. I'm going to send you The Unapologetic Guide to Black Mental Health by Dr. Rita Walker. I'll send you Anita Copac's Shallow Waters. I'll send you Tameka Mallory's State of Emergency. And I disagree with you. Don't play. No, I'm serious. Rita Walker. I send you Anita Kopach, Shallow Waters. I send you Tamika Mallory, State of Emergency. And I disagree with you.

No, I'm serious. I'm going to send it to you. I'm going to put you on hold. And I was going to tell you that. Read a book, man. Like, we got to stop being in abusive relationships with our smartphones. Because that's what it is. We're literally in abusive relationships with our smartphones and social media. We don't need it. Facts. Facts. Facts.

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But hold on, I got your books right here in my hand. Look. I see him. Hello, who's this? Envy, Envy. Breakfast Club. What's up, y'all? How y'all doing? What's up? Get it off your chest, bro.

Hey, man. I just want to give a big thanks to you, Envy, man. I'm a new listener. I've probably been listening for about a year. My girl put me on game with you guys. I used to think she was a clown listening to y'all. Whoa. Big Charlamagne was a clown back in the day.

But I never actually listened to your guys' show. And so when I actually listened, I was like, you know what? These people are good people. You guys know what you're doing, and I really appreciate what you guys are doing. And, Evie, I heard you talked about the credit due a while back. And at that time, I was trying to get everything fixed, man. And I finally hit him up, and he got my stuff straight. Oh, he got your credit right.

I bought myself a new truck. Yeah, he got my credit right, man. They got my credit right. I'm still working on it, still trying to get up to those eight, man, but they got me into the seven. I was in the five and they got me all the way up, man. I just bought myself a new truck. I'm a truck driver out here.

I work for FedEx, and, man. I just bought myself a new truck. I'm a truck driver out here. I work for FedEx. And, man, I'm blessed and highly favored. How long did it take? Congratulations, bro. How long did it take? Took about eight to nine months, man. I had some serious stuff on there that they got off pretty quick for me. Okay.

I was really surprised how fast they did it, you know, because it was kind of a slow process in the beginning. But, you know, as I kept they did it, you know, because it was kind of a slow process in the beginning. But, you know, as I kept checking and I, you know, did the programs they were talking about, it was just, yeah, it just shot up instantly. Okay. Well, thank you, Bubba. Yeah. And let people know, man, you know, it's never too late to do what you need to do, man. I was a felon. I'm 33 years old. I was Curved from every job I tried to get End up just Grabbing

Getting my CDL Getting the class A And I'm loving life right now Alright Yeah I think the credit dude I think I'm He's gonna come up here this week

And I think what we gonna do Is we gonna fix I think like maybe 20-30 people's credit Just to Just on the strength Just to help people out I've been recommending him

To everybody I know Man because he works wonders You guys work wonders Thank you so much Yeah nah He helped me out so many times And people don't Like I've been recommending him to everybody I know, man, because he works wonders. You guys work wonders. Thank you so much. Yeah, nah, he helped me out so many times. And people don't, like, I've met him because he actually helped me fix my credit. I had some F'd up on my credit, and he helped me, and we just became good friends. Hello, who's this?

Jessica from Virginia. Hey, Jessica from VA. What part of VA? I'm in Arlington. Okay, get it off your chest, mama. I'm, like, right outside of DC. Okay, get it off your chest. Okay, get it off your chest. So I am actually blessed, but I'm a little sad because I listen to you guys every morning live on my way to work. And basically, I told you guys how I shot my shot at drama. You shot it it down I found a black king moving to Seattle to be with

my black king nice yes I'm very excited but I just wanted to tell you guys thank you so so much for everything you do for the community and and the people that you guys bring on as far as like information and stuff like that. You guys are more appreciated than you think, you know. So I just wanted to say thank you. Oh, thank you. Appreciate you.

You got to listen to us on the app now. Yeah, I listen to iHeart if I do miss it in the morning. So I'm just going to stick to iHeart. OK, well, thank you, Mama. And you have a great trip and be safe out there. Yes, ma'am. Thank you, Charlamagne. Can I get a signed copy of Black Privilege, please?

Absolutely. That's easy. Let me put you on hold. Thank you. I'm going to get your address. Don't hang up, all right? All right. Get it off your chest.

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Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Destiny with an I from the 843. 843, what's happening, Destiny? Get it off your chest, mama. I just wanted to call and say that I am blessed and highly favored. Nope, you're blessed black and highly favored. You're right about that.

I just hit 30 this year and really starting to see what marriage takes like. And, you know, y'all who we're talking about in that song, Rainy Days. And even on the rainy days, I walk out the house with a smile on my face and I know that God's got me. There you go. Thank you. And Charlotte makes me need to chill sometimes man. Nope. We love you but you need to chill sometimes

off of Charlotte. So why would I listen why would I chill then? I'ma always be me. You know how you said when you leave the house it's gonna be those rainy days? One thing about me, I'ma always be me. The so- how you said when you leave the house it's gonna be those rainy days one thing about me i'm gonna always be me the so-called good so-called bad so-called ugly every day well i'll definitely tune in to watch you tonight at 10 hey there you go the god's honest truth on comedy central well thank you mom you have a great weekend hello who's this hey this is

mo mo what up get it off your chest, bro. Yeah. Hey, I just want to shout out my queen's Instagram page real quick. It's Avion Creations. A-U-V-I-A-N-C-E Creations. She's a Detroit-based photographer. The best in Detroit, man. I swear, anything you need, you got it. Angela Yee, I just want to ask for a quick favor if possible. Okay.

We coming up on a year and she's a big fan and I just wanted to know if you had any like available time to like do a photo shoot with her or something, you know what I'm saying? Like just as a gift for me to her, you know what I'm saying? If possible, if not. When I'm in Detroit? Yeah.

Whenever you're in Detroit, if you have time. Okay, yeah. I could use that too. That'd be nice. Yeah, for sure. And also, I just want to thank God my grandma just came home from having COVID. Oh, wow. You know what I mean? That's a blessing.

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Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. That's right. Pooh Shiesty. Big brr. Brr, brr, brr.

That's what it is. You got a new project out today called Shiesty Season. This your first project, right? For sure. My first one ever. Now, what is this? Is this a mixtape? Is this an album?

Is this an EP? Come close to the mic. Close to the mic. It's a mixtape. Mixtape. Yeah. Now, for people that don't know you from Memphis. Yeah, South Memphis. And you signed with Gucci. Walk Mixtape. Now, for people that don't know you from Memphis. Yeah, South Memphis.

And you signed with Gucci. Walk, big walk. Now, how did that come about? Man, me in the bed, man. Middle of the night, one day, he texted me on Instagram. Did you believe it or did you think it was a lie? I couldn't believe this. How old were you then?

Because you're only 29, right? I'm 21 now. I was 20. Okay, okay. Oh, that was last year? Yeah. So he just sent you a DM? Yeah, he texted me. He said you're only 29, right? I'm 21 now. I'm 20. Okay, okay. Oh, that was last year? Yeah. So he just sent you a DM? Yeah, he texted me.

He said, what's up, man? I couldn't believe it. I grabbed my phone, get up. I pushed somebody up on me. I said, hold on. Hell no. This shit ain't real. Text him back.

I said, what's chopping? He text back. Right then and there. Like, he was on it. He was waiting on me to text back. He was like, I'm fucking***ing with your music, huh? Who you doing this s*** with? I put my clothes on, shoot to Pop's house.

Then my manager, I wake his ass up. I said, wake up, bro, look. I show him, he couldn't believe he get this way. Right then and there, though, while I'm showing him, he takes back. He said, this is my number, FaceTime me. I FaceTimed him right there. We was on faith time for like six hours it was already like three in the morning though he just said look we

just on facetime before we continue that story whoever that woman was in the bed with you gonna be mad that you just referred to her as a somebody you said you pushed that out i pushed that somewhere Now, would you be in for Memphis? Did Dolph or Gotti reach out since they both from the same areas? Yeah, for sure. But you never wanted to sign with them, or they just never offered a deal, or it just wasn't the right situation? Like, I ain't going to lie. I ain't never wanted to sign with nobody.

That's just my mentality. And you know, in the city, it's like you got to sign to either one of them. You got to be paper out of CMG. So before WAP came out, I'm still Chopper Gang. This is my label. So I wanted to be like, why you can't be signing to Chopper Gang, CMG, or paper out? Then WAP came. Boom.

Perfect sign. Gotcha. I always wonder how Gucci Mane discovers talent. Like, what did he hear of yours? That's a genius. He a genius. But I'm going to tell you what song he heard for sure. Mind Slam.

Mm-hmm. Yep. Mind Slam did it for him, and that was the only song he heard. He was like, oh, yeah, that n**** home, Ace out. Mm-hmm. Heard that Mind Slam. So when did you finally meet him in person? Did you fly out to Atlanta, or did he come out to Memphis, or?

We flew to Atlanta. Mm-hmm. Yep. him in person did you did you fly to atlanta or did he come out to memphis or we flew to atlanta it was like i got signed during covet so everything locked down and shut down and everything over over the phone see how did you did the deal over the phone didn't meet him in person no no that's crazy no i didn't do the dealing stuff over the phone oh like i was signed a week before i had to pop out like with it so I had to hold it in. It's hard. It's a walk. Yeah, I still probably toes and foes like my mama or something, though.

You know, she going to tell the whole city. A lot of folks nowadays want to stay indie. What made you say, you know what, now I'm going to do the 1017 Atlantic thing? Man, perfect sense, and they ain't coming at me on no bs and you know what i'm saying so when i did then i found out like if i ain't genuine what really want to see me win come on man when did you realize that it was taking off when your popularity before you did the deal with what when did you realize it was taking off was it one day you walking in the mall people be like yo i know who you are was it your mama heard directly one time and when did you realize like yo it was like out of her out of her yeah I

ain't gonna let my first song see you start off for a verse I did my first verse on it on breaking news with me and again choppa gun the verse on there went viral they were like who would this do it was like I could like step out the gate and no more for ramp round pay, all this. This Poo Shiesty. It was real then, but when I knew it took off when it hit the radio. I got put on you from God Up because I was listening to the new title playlist. And that God Up so hard.

So I just went down this Poo Shiesty rabbit hole. And I'm just like, man, this dude is dope. And then it started dawning on me. Oh, he with Gucci. So then it started to make sense. You used to play ball or something? I know how. You know how?

Yeah. I'm like, I'm one of them players that Coach mess with, but can't make the team. You know what I'm saying? That was Charlamagne.

That was Charlamagne. Like, he'll use me for practice, get in there, show him, you know what I'm saying? They need an instrument, but I ain't even

on the team or nothing. What was it? Key to the locker room. Because of behavior or something behavior couldn't get no physical or something

but got the talent for sure that's how it was with me I used to want to play sports but I couldn't I was always suspended

in all types of stupid shit and I seen when you were opposing me though I was like ah they big shot them

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Most dangerous morning show The Breakfast Club Charlamagne Tha God Angela Yee DJ Envy And we got my man Pooh Shiesty here Pooh Shiesty is a new artist

Out of Memphis He signed the 1017 Atlantic Records He's got a project out right now Called Shiesty Season. Envy, you got a question? Are you still in Memphis or you decided to move to Atlanta? Because I see Atlanta is everything.

Atlanta is open. Atlanta is the music scene. You running in the artists and the studio. Yeah, for sure. I'm in the A-movie for sure, but I'll be wherever I feel like. I'll go to them too. You feel like Memphis is as united as it should be? Mm-mm.

At all. I know, man. Memphis ain't like, for United, you can use Atlanta, for example. Memphis now don't want to see nobody win. They're going to pull you down some type of way. Try to attempt something on you. Try to take something from you. It's just Memphis, like, they hate.

So because of that, why not just stay out the city for a while? They be how they feel to other folks. I ain't going to do me like this. It's up to me now. It's in my hand. I can make it like Atlanta now. That's how I feel. I can be the big brother.

Start showing love. Put n****s on it. It's like if Memphis was united, y'all would easily be that next city from the south with all the talent coming from there. Too much talent. Too much talent. So what do you think it is? The OGs didn't embrace the youngsters?

What was it? I don't get it. Be there. Folks be having their feelings. They don't want nobody to pass them or something. I don't want to incur as long as you know what I'm saying. Pay your homage and do right. You know what I'm saying? Keep it the chill. I don't respect none of this sucker stuff.

Now, is it more dangerous to be a rapper or a street d***, Pooh Shafi? These last two years, rappers. Dang. Last two years. I ain't going to lie. Last couple years, they've been going at these rappers. Is it because the money makes you a target? The fame?

It's like, the street's the rap, man. These folk on the internet, they're going to do the police job. So, all right. if it wasn't for rap what you think you'd be into legal i'd be put up somewhere i wouldn't even be here if you want for rap for sure yeah how proud is your mom right now though seeing everything that you've been through man she's my number one she's very proud big shout out to mom dude i wish she could be here she loves you too. Been watching you years. That's how I know about you through my mama.

Oh, man. Tell her I appreciate that. See, now I feel like an old ass uncle for real now. You got a shout out. You got an old ass uncle coming in with a ski mask on talking about better. Now, you know, also, you know. Better. You can't slide with Dave, bro.

Why? You say better. It's brr. Brr. Brr. Yeah. We old, man. We don't know

I'ma get y'all right I gotta get y'all right Now also with What's the first thing You bought when you made money And what's the first thing You bought your mama You know I bought my mama

A car first off What kind of car Phantom A Phantom Infinity Oh Infinity Nah This the first one

You know she gonna do it big But I had to get her Something in some ASAP. And what's the first thing you bought yourself? Your biggest purchase so far? Benz truck. Benz truck. Man, you gotta buy churches, man. You got to. Yeah, I got to ASAP. Franchise your own churches. That would be dope. Poo Shiesty on some churches?

It lit. Cause all churches need is a rebrand. They might need to re-child after this. They gonna see this. And churches keep it. I be saying churches come in on folks, stuff in there. Churches tap in. Big shots. Let's go.

You going to shoot the video at a church? With my shirt on. Absolutely. Well, Pooh Shicey, we appreciate you for joining us. A hundred percent, man. And we promised we were going to bring a lot of new artists up in here, new artists that are moving the culture. And when this 50-year-old man came in here with a ski mask on,

pointing his finger guns at me, we was like, it's time. Yeah, it means something. Yeah, I mean, listen, we've been doing this for a while, 10 years, and we've seen a lot of, like, we saw the Migos early on. We saw Lil Baby early on. And I feel like you got that same thing. Absolutely. You know what I mean? I appreciate it.

I'm like, I think Pooh Shiesty gonna be a star star. And you said like, when you felt that, you said it off the top. You ain't older than, you know what I'm saying?

Nah, for what? Do not suck. I appreciate it. Absolutely. And tell your mom I said peace. We appreciate it. What's her name?

Miss Gladys. Miss Gladys. Yeah. Peace, Miss Gladys. All right. Well, it's Pooh Shiesty now. Now, Pooh, you know, we ain't come up here. We've been at home, so we came up here for you now. We want you to Miss Gladys Alright Well it's Pooh Shiesty Now Pooh you know We ain't come up here We've been at home

So we came up here for you now We want you to know that So you know it's serious We wish you the best of luck And hopefully we'll see you again up here Most definitely Alright it's Pooh Shiesty It's The Breakfast Club

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Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the breakfast club. Now, if you just joined us, Charlamagne came to work this morning a little, um... Under the influence. Yeah, under the influence. Under the influence of country rap tunes, okay? I deserve to be in Breakfast Club court this morning.

I feel stupid. I've been in here gangbanging on the radio, and I just feel like I'm too old to still be influenced by music. I promise you, it literally was the New South playlist on Tidal. Listening to stuff like Key Glock off the porch and my man Lil Boss out knowing and you know, Poo Shiesty guard up. It really, really, really, really took me to a place that I absolutely enjoy. Yeah, so we're asking, Charlemagne, are we all too old to be influenced by music right now? I don't think so,

bro. You know what I'm saying? I really don't. And I have no reason for saying that other than I just really enjoy it. Are we going through a midlife crisis? I don't think so. You know, like Charlemagne, you have a ski mask on. Yo, Sam! Drinking Starbucks. Like, what is that? It's called balance. Is that a boozy gangster? What are you have a ski mask on. Yo, Sam. Drinking Starbucks. Like, what is that?

It's called balance. Is that a bougie gangster? Like, what are you? It's called balance. Balance. You think gangbangers don't need caffeine? I don't know. You need energy to do a drive-by or two.

Okay. You think I just put money on people's head without, you know, a little latte? Okay. Hello, who's this? This is Regina. Hey, Regina. You know, your boy's up here with a ski mask on drinking a latte. I love it. With a pinky in the air. It's a little weird is Regina. Hey, Regina. You know your boys up here with a ski mask on drinking a latte. I love it.

With a pinky in the air. It's a little weird. Talk to me, Regina. I love it. We have to do. I'm 43. I'm from Jacksonville, Florida. Hey, I be in my car, and sometimes I be a thug.

You know, I could be a thug. I could be a sweetheart. But listen, Charlamagne keeps doing it. Thank you, baby. Fuck, fuck. What is that? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa., Charlemagne keeps doing it. Thank you, baby. That's what I'm talking about. Jackie killed Florida.

Hello, who's this? This guy's crazy. It's John. Hey, John, where you calling from? I'm calling from Florida. You know what? I don't think it's a good thing when you got a bunch of Florida people looking at you. John, Charlemagne has a ski mask on right now.

He's drinking a latte with his pinky in the finger. It's not a latte. It's a green tea with pinky, sir. I don't know what he wants to do with that pinky. I don't know. But you think his ass is too old for all this? Man, sit your old ass down somewhere, man. How old are you, sir?

I'm 33. Oh, you're 33. Okay. You're still living out your old wild out days. You're still cheating on your girl. I did that when I was 20. I got arrested four times in one year. Congratulations. What was the biggest charge the biggest one was a home invasion

what music were you listening to when you um did that home invasion i'm from florida man i listen to all kind of stuff man you know i don't even know plies okay you know probably kodak no that was that was a while ago that was a while ago all right kodak was in middle school back then but you got your life together now. Yeah, definitely, definitely, man. You got a family, man. You're right. Boy, brother, thank you.

You know what? You take this, guys. When you say that, once you add that, you got a family. That's like when a gangbanger say, oh, God in them, he going to do something to you. Once somebody tell you, sit your ass down, you got a family, that's when you get back to reality. He right. Hello, who's this? Christian out of Philly. Hey, Christian out of Ph down. You got a family. That's when you get back to reality. He right. Hello, who's this? Christian out of Philly. Hey, Christian out of Philly.

Good morning, Christian. Now, Charlamagne, is his ass too old to be wilding out to this music? No, that's what you're supposed to be doing. Listen, it's balance in life. It's the yang and the yang. It's the drug dealer and the professional. Because every morning I'm listening to King Vine. I'm from Philly and I'm not from 63rd.

I do that every morning. And then I do my professional 9 to 5. And when I come home, it's back to Jazz and Sullivan and all of that. So you need balance. It's about balance.

I agree with you. Ratchetness and righteousness is the yin and the yang of life. Right, exactly. I'm with you. It's about code switching. We code switch with music too. I'm with you.

Because I did the same thing. I woke up this morning. I meditated. I had my beads in my hand. I was doing my mantras. And then I'm going to therapy at 3 o'clock. But when I was driving into work, it was them country rap tunes, bro. Listen, we moving weight.

We are moving weight. That's how I felt. Oh, my goodness. I really felt like that. We moved the work all up and down 95. We doing it. We doing it. Okay.

We got our 401ks and plays. We are professionals. We have our parents. We have our PTA. They love us. But we turned up. That's what you got to do. I'm with you.

Let's go. You sell drugs in the morning. I'm not having a little bit of gray hair from me doing it and busting it. That's right. She's representing for all the people out there who still want to do the busting challenge, but their knees not what they used to be. But we out here, baby. And I ain't posting it because I'm a mama, and I'm not posting it.

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Let's go. Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Keezy from Arkansas. Gang, gang, bro. What's up, bro? What's happening, King? How old are you, King?

What's up, man? I'm 29, bro. I'm 29, bro. I'll bang that C all day. I'll bang that C all day. I don't even know what that means. What's that mean? That's Christ, bro. That's Christ. That's Christ. Oh, Christ. Oh, bro. I'm 39, bro. I bang that C all day. I bang that C all day. I don't even know what that means. What's that mean? That's Christ, bro.

That's Christ. That's Christ. Oh, Christ. Oh, Christ. Oh, Christ. I throw up the C's for Christ. All day. So when you banging the Christ, when you throwing up that C for Christ, Jesus gang, what do

you listen to? I listen to Angola Young Thug, Angola. I listen to Drake. I listen to Angola. I like the balance. I love the balance, King. From Young Thug to Yolanda Adams, I love the balance. Now, you're a young man. You're 29.

Charlamagne, 42. Should Charlamagne be banging out to this every morning? Yeah, he can bang. He can have a battle. He can bang right. He can bang left. That's right. In the middle.

Right, no, left. Right, middle. Yo, you can tell his daughters, yo, a sly kid cleaning the kitchen. You know what I'm saying? That's right. On the set. Oh, my goodness. On the set, you better have that kitchen clean.

Hello, who's this? Yes, hi. Hey, this is Miss ed from the dub bill in ohio now is charlamagne too old to be gang ganging this morning uh i'd have to second the motion yes but i have to add myself to it too i be thinking i'm just ratchet you talk about luda peep popping oh my god i'm 33 years old with two kids that had me going i never pe't never seen Pop in my life but I can swear, talking about Gucci and Jeezy, I be thinking I'm about to shoot somebody when I'm mad

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because you said you got three kids okay on the handstand. Clearly you know how to do something. That meant whoever, them baby daddies, you got. They do influence us. They do influence us. They do influence us. And I have my racking moments too and I've been a

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now uh charlamagne yesterday got a chance to talk with Travis Scott. Yeah, this happened on Wednesday. You know, I got a couple calls from a few folks, and they were like, you know, Travis Scott, you know, wants to sit and have a conversation with you, you know, to discuss the tragedy that happened on November 5th at Astroworld in Houston, Texas. And that's what we did. And also how he wants to, you know, help make sure this never happens again. All right.

Well, we're going to get into that next. And we're going to take your calls after this, too. So let's listen as a community. And you got questions, whatever you feel like you want to talk about after this interview, you can call us up, 800-585-1051. Ladies and gentlemen, Travis Scott. Travis Scott, what's up, brother? What it do? how you feeling uh

you know i've been on about like different type of like emotions you know emotional roller coaster i mean um it gets so hard because i always felt like connected with my fans and you know i went through something you know and i feel like fans went through something and people's parents went through something. And, you know, it really, you know, it hurts. It hurts the community. It hurts the city. It's just been a lot of thoughts, you know, a lot of feelings, a lot of grieving. And just, you know, trying to get you to wrap my head around it, you know.

I really just really wanted to be there. And just, you know, wish you could just kind of like hold everyone, you know, kind of just heal them, talk to them, have conversations. You know, just just, you know, it really hurts. What's your intention with this conversation? Like, what do you hope to get out of this or what do you hope to get out? I don't personally have an intention I just feel like something happened and I feel like it's just I needed just a way to kind of like communicate you know the families are grieving you know it's fans that experienced something it's fans that came to a show you know and I feel like I

just have like a I've always been that person to always see things through with the people that shared experiences with me and you know it just things happen and you know i just kind of you know it's been such a such a time and i've just been trying to just really figure things out you know i'm sure you experienced some remorse, but was there any hesitation to have this conversation because of the litigation you may be facing? Well, I mean, yeah, of course you got people that are just like, oh, what?

Like, you know, but it's not about that. You know, you're an artist. You're whoever people think you are, but at the end of the day, you're a human being, you know? You have emotions. You want to communicate them emotions, you know, you're an artist, you're whoever people think you are, but at the end of the day, you're a human being, you know? You have emotions. You want to communicate them, emotions, you know? And trying to find the best way to communicate. How have you been coping with the aftermath of everything?

Just emotionally, just you as a human. I've been just in a room for a while, you know? A lot of thoughts, and luckily, you know, you have people around that can kind of bounce ideas. But it's just been, you know, I've been doing this for such a long time. And, you know, nothing like this ever happened, you know. So it's just kind of like you're just kind of figuring out. And at the end of the day, like, these fans are your family.

So you just feel like you lost something. And you just, like, you do these shows, honestly, for people to have the best experience, you know? And just to think that something like this happened, you're just trying to figure out, you know, just wrap everything around. And so even just for the first couple weeks, you know, it was just me sitting down.

But I had to really channel these emotions to just remember, like, you know, if no one's going to be a voice for these people, I got to like, kind of step up and kind of like be a voice to just figure out that, you know, this doesn't happen in the future. It just shows period.

You know what I'm saying? Or figure out the bottom solution of what's going on and just try to ensure people, you know, safety and what they're doing. You know, you said you was in the room, but then people saw you at the golf course.

Yeah. With Michael Jordan, Mark Wahlberg. What was that? It was just Thanksgiving, you know, and they were there. You know, it's just good people to have around in the community. And, you know, that was just more like a personal time, just trying to get around. Think like some fan came and asked for a photo. But, yeah. Let's talk about that night

man when did when did you find out things got as bad as they did now that's that's the question everybody wants to know yeah it wasn't really until like minutes until like the press conference until i figured out exactly what happened you know um even after the show you know you're just kind of hearing hearing things um but you don know. I didn't know the exact details until, you know, minutes before the press conference. And even at that moment, you kind of just like, wait, you know what? Like, you know, you just went through something and it's just like, wait, what? You know? So you didn't know people that actually passed away and stuff?

Nah, nah. Wow. Until minutes before, you know, which is, you know, and at the thing is like you know people pass out you know people you know things happen at concerts but something like that it's just like yeah people said they uh collectively they collectively heard folks scream and help every time you stop the song to get your attention did you did you hear any of those screams nah man and you know it's so crazy because i'm not i'm not artist too like you know anytime you can hear something like that you want to stop the show you want to make sure you know fans get the proper attention they need you know and i anytime i could see anything

like that i did you know um you know i stopped like a couple times to just make sure everybody was okay and i just really just go off the you know the fans energy as a collective you know call the response and i just didn't i just didn't hear that you know i got music i got my in-ears but i just didn't i just didn't hear that you know break that down a little more like nope nobody knows what it's like being on stage except for other artists. So speak to us from that perspective of what you can see in here. It was like, what, 50,000 people? Yeah, I mean, you got like a venue, you know, filled with like 50,000 people.

But it's like a scene. You got lights, you got sound, you got pyro, you got your in-ears, you got your sound, you got your mic, you know, you got the music, you got a band. There's all type of, you know, stuff going on. So it's hard to tell excitement from danger, so to speak? Yeah, of course. Everything kind of just sounds the same. And at the end of the day, you just hear music, you know.

And when you do, you just hear monks of things, you know. But you just, when you're in a show, you're just into the show. And anytime you can feel anything close to you, you know, you try to, like, definitely get to that. So as an artist, how much can you actually, I guess, help in that position? You can only help what you can see. You know what I mean? And then, you know, whatever you're told.

You know what I'm saying? Whenever somebody tell you to stop, you just stop. But it just wasn't it. It wasn't that night, you know raging raging has been a part of the culture you know of your shows you know you didn't on this night but in the past you've encouraged i guess the kind of energy that could have led to something like this happening do you think that contributed to the energy of this night yeah no i think you know it's something i've been working on you know for a while while of just creating these experiences and trying to show like the experiences happening in a safe environment.

You know, us as artists, we trust, you know, professionals to make sure that, you know, things happen and people leave, you know, safely. You know what I'm saying? And this night was just like a regular show. You know, it felt like to me. As far as like, you know, the energy people, it didn't feel like it was like, you know, people didn't, like to me um as far as like you know the energy people it didn't feel like it was like you know people didn't i don't people didn't show up there to just be harmful people just i think showed up to have a good time and then you know something unfortunate happened and i think we really just got to figure out you know what that was you know

does raging make it harder to identify when something is going wrong in the crowd well i think raging is just a you know they have a textbook you know definition but you know in concerts we've grown it to be just experience of having fun it's not about just oh harm it's not about that it's about just letting go and having fun you know help others you know love each other it's not about just you know harm that's not what it's all about the show isn't just rambunctious for an hour you know that's not what it is oh trust me i grew up on crunk yeah so you know i understand you know you just don't you don't want it to get too out of hand. Yeah, but, you know, the energy is high, you know. And, you know, that's why you want to just make sure that, you know,

people are surrounded to make sure that people are just having the best experience. You know what I'm saying? You know, I can't say the energy is high, but, you know, you want to make sure that people are there for people to have, like, the best experience and leave. Yeah, you want people to have a good time. You don't want people to get hurt. Yeah, at all. Yeah, yeah yeah and then you know god forbid pass away

and you know it's typical for you to stop a show to make sure fans in the crowd get the help you know they need there's even footage of that night of you doing that during the set were you unable to sense like a difference in urgency this time around i mean yeah because yeah, because, you know, you stop the show, but, you know, if something's going to happen, if it's something detrimental, somebody's going to let you know, you know, or, you know, the show would just stop. And, you know, that just wasn't the case. You know, I just kind of stopped the show.

You know, you just ask, you have a call and response with the fans. You try to, you know, generally get a response, but, you know, if you don't get like a hard stop, you know, it's just, you can't, you just don't, you just go off of what's going on but you know if you don't get like a like a stop you know it's just you can't you just don't you just go off of what's going on you know which makes it so like so crazy because like you know if i feel like you know anyone would have known it would have just been like it wouldn't have got that far you know all right we got more with travis scott and charlamagne their one-on-one conversation. So don't move.

It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, we're playing a one-on-one interview with Travis Scott and Charlamagne. Travis Scott and Charlamagne spoke yesterday.

So we're getting that back on this morning. Yeah, we chopped it up yesterday. You know, as you can see, if you've been listening, he's being very open about the situation. But at Astroworld in Houston, Texas, the tragedy that happened on November 5th at Astroworld in Houston, Texas. But you can see his brain, you know, going on just how to make sure this never happens again.

But, you know, keep listening. All right. And here is part two. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. What headspace were you in when you posted that initial response video? I mean, I think it had to have been the night of, you know? So, I was just in a

headspace of just trying to get a communication out to my fans, you know? I had little to no information, you know, so I was just trying to figure it out and just communicate to them, you know. Yeah, I was just reacting just literally just to get something to the fans, you know. It's people that showed up.

Do you regret that initial video? Do you regret reacting in that way? Like, not having all the information before you said something? I mean, yeah, because, you know, you just don't know what's going on, but at the end of the day, I don because, you know, you just don't know what's going on. But at the end of the day, I don't, you know, I just wanted to get something out.

You know, how my message came out, I can't, you know, I can only go off what I, you know, what I know. But my true intentions of it, you know, was really just trying to get a message across. And, you know, I really wanted to just touch the fans, touch the families, you know, that we're here, we're grieving. And we'll get through this, you know, through this process. So what did you know in that first video?

I mean, at that time, I think we just knew that, you know, people pass, you know, we didn't know how, you know, it was, you know, the news, you know, I think police came out and said something. You know, you're just going off of what you're seeing in the news. You know, you don't really know nothing. And then as the days go on, you start collecting a little bit more information. They said there was like chaos and trampling being reported since the early afternoon, like hours before the show even started. Were you informed of any of that ahead of time? Well, no.

Like, and, you know, the police, he came, he came to my trailer and, you know, he congratulated me on, you know, the event and, you know, having something like this in Houston. He let me know that it was a mishap at the merch booth earlier. You know, they shut it down, but they opened it back up. They seemed to have got it under control. You know, he was going to step out and just let us know if we need anything, you know, have a good show.

That was it you know um a lot of the criticism you know from the tragedy they say is in the the poor planning and understaffing of the of the event as an artist do you have any involvement in any of that well i mean we just as an artist you just do the creative and for this be my festival you know i got you know bring bring artists, creatively produce it. And we just trust in the professionals to kind of just make sure that people are taken care of and leaving safely. I just can control what I can on the stage, and then you have the professionals control what they can in the crowd.

It's just hard, because as an artist, you know, you want to have, like, the best shows and you want to have the best experiences. And, you know, you link with professionals to handle that side of it, you know. And, you know, you want to know what's going on. I think that's what we got to figure out, you know, and figure out what happened there, how it happened, you know. You spoke on the Houston houston police chief his name is troy finney he came to you and he said he voiced concerns over the the crowd energy so what did you and your team like do with that information what you got well i think that's what the media um i think that's what the media said but i think it i think it read to more so that

he wanted us to he knew that our crowd was you know the type of crowd that comes it comes at a heavy crowd so to communicate with him if we're doing anything outside of the week's itinerary you know um that week we were doing like a lot of charity stuff prior to the festival so you know the security at most of the events but you know he was just letting us you know i guess in that statement he was just saying if we do anything outside of what we had on our itinerary itinerary let him know but you know we do anything outside of what we had on our itinerary, let him know. But, you know, we didn't even get to that point. It was crazy just, you know,

being there kicking it with you for a little bit, like I can see that, you know, this is weighing real heavy on you. Yeah. So how much do you feel a sense of responsibility for what happened that night? Well, you know, fans come to the show and have a good experience, you know? And I have a responsibility to figure out what happened here. I have a responsibility to figure out the solution.

And hopefully this takes a first step into, you know, us as artists, you know, having that more insight of what's going on. You know what I'm saying? The professionals to kind of, you know, surround and figure out more of an intel, whether it's tech, whether it's, you know, more of a response, whether it's whatever the problem is, you know, to figure out that in the future, moving forward in concert safety, make sure it just never happened again, you know? Let's talk about those professionals.

Like, how much responsibility do you think, like, Live Nation and Score More, the promoters, have in all of this? I mean, they do their job of, you know, setting these things up. So, I mean, I think they, when we dial into what, you know, specifically happened here, I feel like, you know, even they, I think they, when we dial into what, you know, specifically happened here, I feel like, you know, even they can kind of help, you know, figure out what happened

in a sense. You know, but at the end of the day, I think collectively everyone needs to just figure out the bottom line solution. But, you know, especially in concert safety, you know, definitely got to have, you know, make sure that, you know, these things are, you know, especially in concert safety, you know, definitely got to have, you know, make sure that, you know, these things are, you know, done right. You think these festivals are too big, man? $50,000 people is a lot of people for anybody to control. Yeah, they're festivals that are bigger, you know, way bigger.

And, you know, I just think it's not about the maximum of it. I think it's about the attention to what's going on and how it's going on. And as long as that's handled, I feel like things can be, you know, can go okay, will be okay, you know. But if you look at it through the history of festivals, you know, this isn't the first time I'm having this. It's been a long history of this, you know? So I feel like if you look at the overall, you know, view of that and you kind of like dial in, okay,

what could we do better to fix this overall for general concert safety? I think we figure out the problem, you know, um, and make it better for people to have better live experiences. Live Nation, um, reportedly agreed to end the concert early after the Houston PD and the fire department declared it a mass casualty event.

But the concert continued for another 40 minutes. Was there ever any communication to you on stage that you should end this? Well, yeah. I mean, they just told me right after, you know, the guests get off stage, you know, we're going to end the show. And that's what we did. You know, other than that, there was no other communication. Oh, so you mean after the guest? What you mean?

Yeah, after the guest comes out, we're going to end the show. But it wasn't communication on why. You know, it was just, you know, that's what came through my ears. Oh, so they didn't say stop now. No. Oh, gotcha, gotcha. Wow. Do you feel like people are forcing more responsibility on you

because you are the front man, because it was Astroworld? Well, yeah. I mean, you know, I'm the face of the festival. You know, I'm an artist, you know. So, yeah, you know, the media is, you know, they want to, you know, put it on me. But at the end of the day, it's like I don't think it's more so about that. I think it's more so about stepping up to figure out what the problem is and i could take that i could take you know stepping up to figure out what the problem is i could take stepping into

figuring out the solution i had never happened again because that's what i generally want to do in general even just for my community you know the whole idea for why i brought this festival to the city was to you know show that houston is something, you know. The whole idea for why I brought this festival to the city was to, you know, show that Houston is something different, you know, and show that there's all different types of lives, there's all different types of energy, and just bring that morale to the city and just bring that energy to the city. So I definitely want to, you know, step in to figure out,

you know, how can we fix this in the future? What can we do to, you know, change these things, you know step in to figure out you know how can we fix this in the future what can we do to you know change these things you know do you feel like you did everything you possibly could to help in in that situation yes yes anything i physically can sure yes and it just you know if knowing you know what's going on you know you would just wish you know hi if knowing, you know, what's going on, you know, you would just wish, you know, if you, you know, could have done something better, you know, but standing there, thousand percent. All right, we got more with Travis Scott and Charlamagne, their one-on-one conversation, so don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, yesterday, Charlemagne did a one-on-one interview with Travis Scott. If you just join us, we'll play the first two parts. What's your YouTube page, Charlemagne? Yeah, it'll be up on my YouTube page shortly. My YouTube page is Cthagod, C-T-H-A-G-O-D. So, you know, if you're already subscribed to my YouTube page, thank you.

I don't post content often, but when I do, it's things like this. So subscribe, and it should be up on my YouTube page shortly. All right, well, let's get to part three. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. You know, we know that the families of the people who passed are definitely watching this right now. And you know, there's nothing you could say to heal the trauma these families who lost loved ones are going through.

But being that you know they're watching, what would you say to them directly? I'll say to them that I'm always here and that I'm in this with you guys and I love you. And I'll always be there to help you guys heal through this. And I understand that they're going through, they're grieving right now and they're finding understanding right now.

And it's not just like a right now thing, it's a for everything. And these people that came to the show they are my family and I've always had that connection to the people I feel like that listen to the music or came to my shows and that's why I really you know it's really hard on me even just you know to even like you know and even because, you know, they end up they they they lost they they lost their loved ones, you know, so it, you know, it's tough. I just want to always just be there for them and just always just be able to just know that I'm going to fix this for the future people, you know, and fix the solution and fix this problem, you know, and find a solution to making sure that this doesn't happen in the future

and definitely be a number one voice for this, you know. I feel like that's like one of the, what we got to figure out. Because other than that, it's like, you know, the show goes on tomorrow or, you know, something goes, how does this get fixed? This could happen again. It's happened before. Yeah. Yeah. You're a father, you know.

God forbid when your kids are of age, if they're in a situation like this, you know, I want you to put yourself in those parents' shoes right now. What would you want to see come of this situation? If you... I want to see people put their heads together. I want to see people really figure this out, not take this lightly, you know, and really act on it. And that's, you know, that's one of the main things

that's important. I feel like they got to just act on it. And that's one of the main things that's important. I feel like they gotta just act on it. It can't just be like something that happens and it just roll over. We gotta be something that's taken serious and addressed seriously and things formed around it. Time and a lot of time and a lot of, you know, thinking power spent on this, you know, and really fixing, you know, whatever system

that needs to be fixed, you know? From the lawsuits to the media coverage, do you feel like you're personally under attack? I mean, yeah, I mean, you see a name in it and, and it's like, but, you know, at the end of the day, you step in these, you know, you step, you want to do a festival and, you know, when you want to do things and you want to build up, you know, it comes with certain things. Right. So I think it's all about how you respond to it. And I think it's all about how you react right so i could feel that way but i think more so about it's more about how i feel about the response that i that i that i'm that i care about more so which is you know actually you know trying to step in and you know really step up to really fixing what's happening and and really step up for the safety of concert goers.

People are in just live spaces, period. I wonder, I wonder, is there a way to even prepare for this? Because nobody, like you said, when you're doing the planning for a show like this, nobody is planning for this to happen. So how do you even prepare for something like this to happen? I don't know. And I feel like when we get, I feel like when it comes out a little bit more

how this could have happened, I feel like that's how we can kind of attack that. But even I was thinking in ways like tech solutions, you know, people come into these festivals with these bands that only scan you in, right? You have, you know, you have all type of tech now that can scan you in, right? You have, you know, you have all type of tech now that can track your heart,

can track your, you know, oxygen levels, can track if you're going to be sick. You can put things now if you're going to be, you know, get lost. It's all type of ways now for like that can be the band that only gets you access to entry or to a food line or to food trucks

can now be soluble to help me save lives you know um can now be more of a response to people that are now on site and on ground um i feel like that could be a way or you know even just figuring out what the exact solution what the exact problem was and dialing more into that, I think you can kind of, I feel like there is a way. I just think it needs to be time spent on figuring that out. Have you been able to have any personal conversations with any of the families who lost loved ones?

I was able to, but you know, I just want to just respect that, you know, the privacy of the conversation. I'm thankful for them for even allowing me to have the conversation. How did you feel when some of the families rejected your offer to pay for the funerals? All things are understandable. And, you know, at a time they're grieving and they're trying to find understanding and, you know, they want answers. And it's not about, it's not about that.

You know, I'm always going to be here, you know, to want to help them. You know what I'm saying? And, and, and it's, it's not going to, you know, I got to continue to show up for that. You know, I just wanted to make sure that they knew that I was there for them. You know what I mean? And continue to be there for them. I think that's just more so what it's about for that. Yeah. Some people say your music played a role in this. Like I've seen them, you know, cite lyrics, you know,

that encourage this kind of behavior. I've seen them say your music is demonic and this was a satanic ritual. Do you think your music is to blame? I mean, no. I mean, one, I'm a man of God. So that's the first thing first. And, you know, so it's just, yeah, that's that. And, you know, your music is just like self-expression.

You know what I'm saying? And at these shows, I feel like people kind of like look at things. And if you've been to a Travis show, it's been different layers of shows, you know. I think people are just, you know, misconceptions and taking things they're seeing and, you know, all type of things, you know. And I've took pride in trying to, you know, grow from where I was when I first recorded music to now I'm going in music. So, yeah, I just think people got to, and that's one thing with me, is just people got to kind of, you know, experience it sometimes. And I think that's what it was.

You know, people were kind of like, even before, people were hearing about it and coming to experience it and taking away their own thing. And it's always going to be an outside opinion. But, you know, for the ones that you know really believe in me and you know understand what we're you know what i'm about and what i'm doing no that's not that's not what i'm you know preaching i always preach like love always preach understanding always preach you know take care of your loved ones love each other you know

what i'm saying get out your ideas never let never let yourselves be stopped. Love one another and step into that. I mean, I think that's a part of it, but the music does encourage people to be violent at these shows. I mean. I mean, that's what the rage is about. I mean, most of the music is me sometimes talking about what I see at the shows. You know what I mean? If I'm talking about the shows.

And so that's just the energy. You know what I'm saying? But the energy isn't to come and start being ultra violent and just being violent and hurting each other. That's not what it's about. All right. That's part three of the

conversation, the one-on-one conversation with Charlamagne and Travis Scott. Now, don't move. We got more coming up. Usually we do rumors, but this is more important this morning. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody.

It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, we're playing back Charlemagne's one-on-one conversation with Travis Scott. Yeah, I sat down with Travis Scott to discuss the tragedy that happened on November 5th at Astroworld in Houston, Texas. Clearly not an easy conversation. And he wants to discuss how he can help make sure this never happens again. Which he doesn't even know what that looks like yet. But here's the conversation.

Right. And we'll take some calls after this. 800-585-1051. It's The Breakfast Club. Here's part four. You said you're a man of God. And when I even said that, you know, they say your music is satanic. I saw the face that you made.

Where do you think that even comes from? Travis Scott is satanic. Travis Scott is demonic. I just think it's just things people collect. You know, people look at the internet and they just collect and they look at things and they look at visuals. And, you know, we have all these theorists and they just collect and they look at things and they look at visuals And you know, we have all these Theorists and people just thinking they're looking at visuals and don't understand, you know

Just the idea of like what art may be or what what you trying to do, you know They're just making up your own message, especially when you're not out there like yelling the message all the time No, it's just Yeah, and when they say this is a community event Astroworld, yes, so they say a community event is a satanic ritual. How does that make you feel? Yeah, it's crazy. Because, you know, it's like, I do this for people to have a good time.

You know, we have rides, we have games, you know. It's things for people to get off creative experiences. It's not, you know, the show is at the end of the day, you know. It's like, you know, and that show is just something based on what's, you know, just things. You know, it's not like, what? Like, why would we wake up one day and just try to, it's just, evil is not what we're a part of. We're not trying to be a part of that. We're trying to be a part of joy.

Trying to be a part of light. Trying to be a part of full-blown happiness, love, you know, understanding. People taking care of each other. You know, community. People to leave from these experiences and want to go out and do good. That's literally what we want. You know, we want to show them these things, you know, we put everything into the, you know, this, you know, this festival, you know, this is our third year, you know, so we try to put, you know, we, every year we put everything into the festival so people can enjoy it. You know, it's not about just come perform that, not that, you know, it's not about just come perform. Mm-hmm. That, not that. You know, it's things for them to do all day.

Mm-hmm. And different artists for them to experience, too. Mm-hmm. Have the trauma of this tragedy impacted your desire to perform in the future? I've always seen performances of art of healing for me. That's why I've always been so into it. You know, I don't know if you like, you know,

looked at like some of the growth from where I've tried to take performance. I've always tried to, I feel like it's the art of healing. I feel like it's a moment where people have a mutual understanding, you know? And I feel like the first things first before anything is that we address, you know, a lot of safety concerns. I think the first things first is that,

because not even just for me, you don't want other, you know, artists to have to go and take a part of that trauma, take a part of that experience, take a part of that, you know, that fear. You don't want concert goers to still be a part of that fear. They want, you want them to feel safe. You know what I'm saying?

So I think that's just the first things first and i think once we take major steps into moving in that direction you know i feel like you know it could be cool to for for people to practice that healing again you know and understand that i don't think people should run away from it and shy away from it i think you know it's a it's a form of know? You know, no matter what you do at any of your shows in the future, regardless of how much security, how much safety you put in place, you cannot control human behavior. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't control 40, 50,000 people doing whatever it is that they do. Does that scare you?

I mean, yeah, but, you know, you also put trust in the fans, too, to, you know, just have a good time. You know, you just re-instill that. And, you know, you continue to practice, you know, when you're on stage to just remind them, you know. And even when they're there, to just constantly have messages to remind them, like, yo, look, you're here to have a good time. We're not here. If you see somebody, you know, help another, you know.

I think it's just continue to reinstill that message I think help that mindset if yeah so after a while was one of you know several ways you gave back to Houston do you think you've you know lost that privilege to do that to be honest I haven't really like thought about that because I just been thinking about just community healing and you know the family's healing families healing and all those things kind of building back up. Rob Markman, That could take forever though.

I don't know if you ever truly heal from these type of situations. Yeah. And through these things, like I say, music is part of healing. And at the end of the day, I don't, I just don't, you know, the Travis Scott show or, you know, a Astroworld show, you know, wasn't the bottom line factor of what happened here, you know, and I think we just got to figure out what that was, what happened, but, you know,

having a Travis Scott show, you know, we've done shows, you know having a Travis Scott show and we've done shows you know all over that wasn't the you know what happened here you know something that happened here you know and that's why we want to fix it because it can happen anywhere mm-hmm you know what I'm saying and I think once we get further along in that I think you know you know it'd be more a little bit more receptive I feel does it make you feel judged when you see videos you know, you know, it'd be more a little bit more receptive, I feel. Does it make you feel judged when you see videos, you know, circulating of other artists stopping their shows, like the Check On fans since Astroworld?

Because it's almost like the insinuation from other artists is that, like, you didn't do enough. So we don't want to be like Trav. I'll take it as, you know, they're just taking extra precautions, you know, because it might not have been something that, you know, was running through their mind at a time before. And they're just taking extra precautions to, you know, make sure they don't run through the same problems. And I can commend them for that.

You know, I've always done the same thing, you know, in my prior shows and at this show. So, you know, I feel them, you know. I just think it's been a little bit more, people are more capturing it now, like, because of what's going on. I think that's just how the media works. If the families of the victims never forgive you, will you ever be able to forgive yourself? Can you live with that? No, it's tough. You know, it's real tough.

Because I want them to really know that my intentions wasn't to, you know, it wasn't to harm their family at all. It's for them to come and have a good experience. I've always felt like I have a connection with my fans, you know, through the music. I feel like when they come to see me, it's not just like, oh, they're coming. It's like a connection. And, you know, sometimes not knowing, you know, people not understanding like artists

and where we come from, that it could be a disconnect. And you know, I would love to, you know, instead of understanding, you know, for them to truly know where my heart's from, you know, it didn't come for them for me to harm and it wasn't about a show to keep you know at all you know it's a you know it's about for them to have you know one of the you know a very good time and it's just tragic that it didn't turn out that way you know so i guess my final question man who do who does who does travis scott I guess, think is responsible for this tragedy? You know, something tragic happened here. Well, what I've just been trying to, you know, get to the bottom of is just what happened here, how it happened here.

And, you know, I think the families are owed, you know, that. I feel like, you know i think the families are old you know that i feel like you know the community is old that i feel like we're old that to just know what happened here i don't want to just speak too soon i just want to figure out you know what happened you know you know they're going to pick this interview apart so is there anything you want to say to your fans to the family of people who lost loved ones you know before we get out of here i mean i just want to i want everyone to just continue praying for the fans to the family of people who lost loved ones, you know, before we get out of here? I mean, I just want everyone to just continue praying for the fans.

I want people to continue praying for the ones, the fans that was lost. You know, I want people to continue praying for the families. I want people to continue just reaching out for healing. I think the more we try to, you know, continue to let people grieve and continue to be there for people and, you know, check in more people and, you know, check in on your loved ones and just, you know, that, you know, I think that's just like one of the most important things. And, you know, staying strong through this while we, you know, figure out what's going on, you know, and bring understanding to these families and to the community. That's what we're going to do. We're going to send healing energy to everybody involved. The families, you know, those who were lost, yourself.

Because nobody wants tragedies like this to happen. Yeah, not at all. So preventing them moving forward is the only thing we can do. Yeah. Appreciate you, brother. Thank you, man. Yes, sir.

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Grew up on a dirt road in Moncks Corner, South Carolina. Mom was a Jehovah Witness English teacher. My father was an entrepreneur. Did everything from owning a fish market to construction to selling narcotics. It is what it is. It was what it was. My mother kept a book in my face. I read everything from my book of Bible stories to Are You There, God?

It's Me, Margaret. Side note, Judy Blume sent me and my oldest daughter an autographed copy of Are You There, God? It's me, Margaret. Drop on the clues bombs for Judy Blume. Bro, you can't shout that out with a mask. Yo, relax. Yo, relax, son. All right.

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Go listen. Now, what's my point here? My point here is that I come from the dirt. All right. South Carolina, eight foot three all day. That is always in me. Therefore, I will always love the ratchetness of life. Even at 42 years old, married with three kids and a receding hairline.

I love ratchetness. I still do hood rat things with my friends. life even at 42 years old married with three kids and a receding hairline i love ratcheting this i still do hood rat things with my friends we just do it at our houses or on vacation when the kids go to sleep but the reason i'm giving myself donkey of the day is because this morning when i was here by myself i was talking about the domestic terrorists that uh you know hit the capital you know vanilla isis and i was still on a high after listening to all these good country rap tunes this morning on Tidal, and I feel stupid.

Just listen to how I've been sounding this morning. I've talked my way out of enough home invasions to know when something is a setup, okay? I don't even know who to trust in government anymore, but I know who I do trust,

and that's no damn body, okay? Period. And for some reason, I started to say, and that's on Crip, but I'm not a Crip, so I don't even know why the hell I would even say something like that. Alright, salute to all the gangs out there. I'm driving in this morning, I heard you shout out all the gangs, then... I don't know why I said that, I'm gonna be honest with you, listen. You know how

somebody be talking like, that's on Crip! And then I had to think about it, like, I ain't even know Crip, why am I saying that? Salute to all the gangs, though. Mello, I don't know what's going on up here, though. Mello. Yo. Sue, whoo. What's up?

What's up? What's up, dude, man? We held it down for the morning while everybody wasn't there, man. It's about time. I appreciate that, sir. It's about time. I don't know who died and made you 6'9", but you better talk to me. I don't know who died and made me 6'9".

He's a mellow. There's quite a few problems with all those statements. Number one, I don't gangbang. and made me 6'9". He's a mellow. There's quite a few problems with all those statements. Number one, I don't gangbang. Never have in my life. I'm not a crip, not a blood either. I'm nothing. I'm a man who has therapy today at 3 p.m. I'm a man who is scared to order a protein shake from around the corner here in Tribeca

because I feel like they keep giving me whole milk and not almond milk. And I don't have time to spend hours on the toilet today. And I get dairy bumps. My point with saying all of this and the reason I'm giving myself donkey today is because I just feel stupid and donkey today is all about giving people the credit they deserve for being stupid. If you read my first book, the New York Times bestselling black privilege and you know one of my laws in my book was always give people the credit they deserve for being stupid including yourself and that's what I'm doing right now. The reason i feel stupid is because i was writing in the work this morning listening to the new south playlist on title bro

there's some records on there that make my inner child smile i mean there are records on there that make the hood and me happy okay i'm from south carolina the 843-803-864 when you come from a certain environment there is a certain energy that is always in you and when you listen to certain music certain music is so powerful. And it will just have you feeling like you're something you're not. Okay, that's what Pooh Shiesty guard up did for me. Okay. Play Pooh Shiesty guard up.

Let me hear a little bit of that, man. Come on. God damn. Man, somebody dig up Clyde Goldte call on start up. I lost some members at an early age. They let me start up. Man, somebody dig up Clyde Goldteeth. Dig up Clyde Goldteeth so I can put him in my mouth. Okay?

That's what Off the Porch by Key Glock did for me this morning. I was listening to Roaring Twenties by Flo Millie and then my dog, Lil Boss from North Charleston, South Carolina. He's on the new subtitle playlist. He's got a song called I Know It. He's from the same state as me. He's from the Chuck. How can I not be influenced? Okay? How can I not

be? You know what I feel like right now? I'm at the point where I'm like AWACS on Minister Society. Salute to the good brother MC8. Make sure y'all check out that Gangsta Chronicles podcast on the Black Effect iHeartRadio network. I'm like AWACS. I done did so much dirt that I just like to see other people do it. I like to hear it. I like to feel it. I like toRadio Network. I'm like AWACS. I don't dip so much dirt that I just like to see other people do it.

I like to hear it. I like to feel it. I like to see it. But I'm not doing it. Envy, you don't ever hear certain records and it takes you back to your old wild out days?

Yes. So I'm not alone here then? Yeah, you are a little bit alone. What do you mean? Why? Why am I alone? Because you have a ski mask on and you've been saying on slime.

Yo, you judging me, slime? See? On God! Why are you pointing a gun at me? A fake gun. You're. Yo, you judging me, son. See? On God. Why you pointing a gun at me? A fake gun. You're right. Let me put that away.

Say what's wrong with them. I'm just saying it really makes you think about the influence this music is having on the youth because it influenced my big grown ass this morning. But not because they might rap about violence or doing criminal activities or gang stuff, but because it's fun. It's just fun. I mean, listen to these country rap tunes. Play some of that Key Glock off the porch. Just listen to this.

Hey, I jumped off a porch, then I jumped in the roof. I used to ride 10 speeds, now I got a new coupe. I'm young, hugging, humble, but I play it all cool. But don't forget this shit ain't my approach on the news. Hey, come on, man. Hey, play some of that flow, Millie Roaring 20s. Now, I'm going to tell you something. You know I'm all about the sacred masculine and the divine feminine.

Okay? This right here is for the divine hood rat in all of us. Play some of this Roaring Twenties by Flo Millie, okay? If I was, I never should have been. Loving gave me money, came straight out of bed when I ate. But I swear, you be making me feel like. Come on, man. I'll let you do it.

Eat up some. Damn, yeah, I'm in my pod. That's for all the Negroes that want to do the busted challenge, but our needs not what they used to be. Okay? Okay? Hey, play a snippet of my dog, Lil Boss. Okay?

I know it. South Carolina all day. Come on now. Come on now. What the hell is wrong with you? Envy, you feel me, slime? On trip. Okay?

What are you doing? Yo, Dramos on God and them give me the biggest hee-haw. Okay? All right, we got more coming up next, so don't move. Happy holidays. Don't go anywhere. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. Power 105.1. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. That's right. He's the head of Instagram.

Hi. Adam, how do I say your last name? I don't want to mess it up. Mosseri. Mosseri? Mosseri. Adam, what's up, my guy? Welcome. Thanks for having me.

Thanks for joining us. Tell people what that means. The head of Instagram, CEO of Instagram. What does that mean? It means that if something goes wrong on Instagram, it's on me. And if something goes right, it's probably on my team. But generally, I spend as much of my time as I can helping us think about where we're going, what we need to do better, what we need to double down on because it's going well.

And building the team to help us get it done. Well, let's get to the nitty gritty because I saw a lot of people on social media when you said you were coming here. They have questions. Please bring them. Let's discuss the election first, right? Because as you know, there's a lot of fake news that was going around and there were a lot of issues with Facebook, with fake news. You know, how do you guys take responsibility for your platforms with COVID, with fake news. You know, how do you guys take responsibility for your platforms with COVID, with fake news and things like that happening, making sure that that information doesn't get spread out? Social media as a technology isn't good and it isn't bad.

It just is. And social media specifically is a great amplifier in a lot of ways. And it can amplify good and it can amplify bad. And so it's our responsibility to do all we can to amplify the and it can amplify bad. And so it's our responsibility to do all we can to amplify the good and mitigate the bad.

And you see both spread on the platform. You saw the Black Lives Matter movement spread on social media. You saw Me Too spread on social media. But you also see things like misinformation

spread on social media. And so we try to figure out all the different things that we can do to identify problems and address them. And then also rethink the core of what we do and how we do it to create better outcomes. And that work never ends. And so, I mean, you brought up a couple different things there.

But on misinformation specifically, what we do is we work with third-party fact-checkers. So people who do this for a living, who do this for publications. We give them access to what's shared on the platform, and they can dispute things. They can say, like, this isn't true, and here's a link to why. And when that happens, we reduce the spread of that when we label things and we give people links to good information. But we don't take it off the platform entirely

unless there's a safety risk. So for things like COVID-19 or vaccine-related misinformation, we just take it off the platform entirely unless there's a safety risk. So for things like COVID-19 or vaccine related misinformation, we just take it off the platform entirely. So at this point we spend billions of dollars a year and there are tens of thousands of people between the engineers, the reviewers and everything else focused on safety. How liable should social media platforms be in regards to lawsuits? Like if I want to sue somebody for slander or defamation, should I be able to name the social media platform? Since y'all gave my platform?

Yeah. So this is actually one of the big legal debates right now, right? And here in the US, they talk a lot about section 230, which gives technology platforms essentially no liability, but the people who post that content are liable. In different countries around the world, that may not be the case. Actually, it isn't the case. Yeah, South Africa, they don't play. Yeah, no, a lot of Europe, they don't play. And so the thing that I think is that it's important that companies are held to account to take measures to keep people safe,

but I don't think we can go all the way to have a social media platform be accountable for every single thing that is said on that platform by every person because there are over a billion people on Instagram at this point. And there's no version of that where there aren't going to be people with problematic opinions, racists, etc. who are going to show up.

They're not going to check that at the door when they open up Instagram. But I do think that doesn't mean that we can just wipe our hands clear. The question is, where are we on that spectrum? What do you say to people that say that, you know, social media, Instagram per se, is really affecting people's mental, where people are, you know, thinking of committing suicide and, you know, having problems in school and self-esteem and all of those things due to that platform. So there's a range here. And I think they're

all really important questions. There are problems that are really acute, right? So if you are struggling with self-injury or suicide, that is, I mean, that's high stakes. That's really problematic. And we've done a lot of work in that area to try and be thoughtful about what we share by getting people access to good information or to help. So for instance, right now, if we think you are a risk to yourself, we will direct you to resources or even in some extreme cases, resources to you. How do you report that, right? And the reason I'm stopping you there, let's say you have a family member that goes and is off doing some wild stuff. A lot of times them themselves don't know that they're doing wild stuff, but a family

member might. How does that family member report that to instagram and say hey my sister's doing this or my aunt is doing this or my brother is doing this how does that work so in every post be it a photo video or anything else on instagram you can always report something there's a little dot dot dot do you really check it because sometimes i feel like it doesn't get checked because there's so many people that make fake mv pages i feel like every day i'm like i've done it fake mv page we've got room to improve we definitely check it but the challenge is the truth is the reports are actually mostly not of things that are problematic there's a ton of people who are like i don't like the way i look in this photo and i'm going to report it oh my god yeah it's it's it's actually the vast oh my god it's the vast majority which is i can imagine that

yeah which is why we can't rely only on the reports. We definitely check the reports. We prioritize them. So if someone's reporting someone's a risk to themselves, we're going to look at that much faster than if someone's reporting something as being nudity, for instance. But we have to also build technology ourselves to go out and try and identify things. Because if someone's going to be a risk to themselves, let's say you're going live and you're talking about hurting yourself we don't

want to wait for someone to hopefully report that by the way we don't have a religious opinion on the female nipple the reason why we don't allow nudity on instagram is because it is actually a safety issue because we can't verify age and we can't verify consent i think social media sometimes protects bigots though it protects bigotsots in regards to racism, homophobia, because I've posted videos of racists getting punched in the face, right? For blatantly being racist, and then Instagram will remove it. We definitely make mistakes. We also take a lot of flack for letting people say a lot of crap

that we don't necessarily agree with. In general, we're going to try and bias towards letting people say what they want on the platform. And we try to only take content down when there's a safety risk. Should the FCC regulate social media like they do radio and TV? They can and they should. I think regulation is important. I think that social media is too big to not have governments have an opinion about what should and should not be okay.

Now, the type of regulation of regulation though is particularly important. Some regulation could be really helpful particularly clarifying what is and what is not you know certain problematic content types. So for instance we have a hate speech policy. Hate speech protects people based on nine different types of traits so you know race, gender, religion, the things you would expect. That's our definition. But you have to be careful because if you get too aggressive with regulation or you write regulation in certain ways, you might incentivize social platforms to censor more. If you're going to fine them a big amount every time they make a mistake and that's something up, they're going to take down more because it's in their financial interest to do so. Now, another question I have, you were talking about wanting to make sure.

I saw you said that you wanted to make sure that creatives Actually start making more money on Instagram and I know they have like the tips that you can do on YouTube and things like that Yeah, what are some ways that you guys I see the Instagram ads you can also sign up for Which I'm not a hundred percent sure what that is So if you want to explain how people can make money on Instagram, there's a range of ways we can help creators make a living Largely they fall into three categories. The first is essentially commerce. So you can do branded content, right? So you get paid by a brand off of Instagram or off of Facebook and you do a deal and you

post on Instagram to promote whatever that is. But then we also need to do things that allow people to pay the creators that they love directly right so um we're interested in things like tipping so we've got badges for instance when you go live right now exploring if we can support subscriptions maybe you could have a group of people who pay you five bucks a month and you get them exclusive content that only they get and you can do that right through instagram it's almost like an only fans type of thing where you could have a subscription but now the stuff that they subscribe to can you put whatever you want up there now and you can do that right through Instagram. It's almost like an OnlyFans type of thing where you can have a subscription, but now the stuff that they subscribe to,

can you put whatever you want up there now because you know who your subscribers are, right? You know their age. It's almost like you can take that and now you can show a nipple. But you still have the same restrictions. But you know, because you know who your subscribers are, right? Yes and no.

So if there's a safety issue, we're still going to have to take it down. But, I mean, for instance, we do do age gating for certain types of content. So things like tobacco, that kind of thing. So we could explore that. We haven't actually talked about that. Morning, everybody.

It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Shalom and the Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Adam Mosseri, the head of Instagram. Is it a trick to it, though? You know, a lot of people are like, hey, is it a trick when I post my videos? Because sometimes I post a video or a picture and I get this amount of likes. And then sometimes it's on this page and I get this amount of likes and then sometimes it's on this page and I get this amount of likes yeah you know as a trick to maybe

I'm like I'm not giving up my tricks I'm trying to figure it out too I've got a good count I'm trying to build up my following the unfortunate truth is there's no perfect answer and it's the million dollar question there are a couple of things I'd say one One is it's important to first, when you're using, whether it's Instagram or any other social media platform, to be intentional about what you're using it for. Are you using it to promote a cause that you believe in?

Are you using it as a business directly? Are you using it to just build up awareness of your business and you make your money elsewhere? The other thing to be honest about is that every audience is different, right? So what's gonna work best for your followers isn't necessarily, probably not gonna work with what's best for my followers.

So you and I both have to experiment. We gotta try things, see what works, see what doesn't. But there are other things that are more broadly true. So I do think it's generally true to give people a good sense of what you're about and what you do. So I try to build up these sort of patterns. So I do a video every week where I talk about what's happening on Instagram. Video also, there seems to be a lot of interest across the entire world and always consuming more videos. So some of those basics are more universal, but a lot of it is more nuanced, unfortunately. What is Instagram learning from the Black Creators Strike on TikTok?

So the Black Strike on TikTok, Black Creators on tiktok i think is mostly about credit right too often black creators will create amazing things and not create credit for it and someone else often not black will reap all the benefits but we're trying to understand not just that but the broader set of issues and the big set of issues that we've heard from the black community here in the states and over the last year and a half are things around censorship shadow banning racism on the platform having your content taken down when you fight back against the bigot or a racist and so we feel like the credit stuff that tiktok is dealing with is important and we're looking we're working on that but we really gotta first do better on the basics because we don't really even have a right to play in like the creator monetization space unless we can get better

on the issues around content takedowns, account suspensions. Like Lil Boosie. Yeah. Okay, is it Boosie that's going to get this page back? You know Lil Boosie going to start calling you out now. He been saying Mark. I know. Now he know who behind it for real.

I know. I'm surprised he hasn't slid into my DM. He know now. Adam Mossaria. Boosie, you have no issues. Yeah'm surprised he hasn't slid into my DM yet. He know now. Adam Mosseri. You have no issues. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's your guy right here.

I can't wait to see him later on Instagram. Adam Mossereri? Adam Mossereri? It's Mosseri with seven S's. Now, what about limiting screens? No, no. Why does Boosie keep getting taken down, Adam? We got to draw the line somewhere.

It's a nudity policy. We try to be clear. You can appeal. But if you get too many strikes, you know, things happen. Now, what's nudity? Because I flagged Kim Kardashian 10,000 times. Remember when Kim posted a picture of her nipple one time? Okay, hater.

Why would you do that? Because they don't take her down, but they take everybody else down. So I flagged it. If she posts a picture of her nipple, it's getting taken down. If it's a guy? No. This is one of my... Man, n nipples are allowed so I should be clear one of one of one of my favorite tricks that people who are sort of nudity advocates talk about one of my favorite tricks that they do

is they'll take a male nipple cut it out and paste the male nipple on a female's breast and post that just to test their policies. If we figure it out, that's allowed. You know, this is what it means to like be a platform with as much reach as we have is you're going to have people try to push you and figure things out. Does Instagram understand culture though, right? Because you got people like Lil Duval, Lil Boosie, whose page always get taken down. And it could be for doing things like using the N-word. But they're using it in the context of, that's my N-word. But it'll get taken down for racial slurs.

Really? Yeah. Yeah, so it's tough. Because, no, we don't understand culture perfectly at all. Just to be super clear. You can't at our scale. And so there are things where we just have to draw the line or define a rule that is practical for us to actually enforce because the perfect rule is going to be nuanced. But the

perfect rule we cannot enforce accurately and consistently tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of times a day or whatever it is. And so, yeah, there are certain racial slurs that you cannot say on Instagram, regardless of how you identify. Now, that's just because we don't think we would be able to get it right enough of the time. We would make too many mistakes otherwise. And it's better for us to be transparent about the rule and then be able to act accordingly. And you can make your own decision. What about limiting screen time? Because I know that was a discussion that people have. You know, your phone will show you how long you've been on all of these apps. Is that something at Instagram that people are concerned about? Like, are you concerned about

that people being addicted and constantly on their phone? I mean, for me, it's everything in moderation. But I also want to be clear, there's a difference between like addiction, which is a compulsion to do something that is unhealthy for you that you cannot stop, and just problematic use or overuse. People are addicted to social media, though. Some are, and some just use it too much. And so what we try to do is decipher the difference. So if you're in a really problematic state, how can we intervene? How can we let you know how much time you're spending, et cetera? But if you're just using it a lot, the things that we need to do might be different.

Replace what you said with cocaine. Some people aren't addicted, but some people just use it too much. I don't know if I can talk about that. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. If you're using it too much, you clearly have a draw to it that you can't control. Right, but I think cocaine is a drug, and a drug has serious medical implications. I think social media will in the future.

I think psychologically, emotionally, mentally, we're not even scratching the surface of how social media is going to impact people in the future i think that's reasonable but i also think that every new technology is first met with a wave of optimism people are really excited about what it can do then a huge wave of concern and then ideally you get to some sort of balance and by the way as you get through it the media itself or the technology itself gets better i think social media is a technology that's just earlier in that phase. So yeah, I'm sure use of social media can affect your health. Because communicating with anyone can affect your health, and social media is just a way to connect.

Let's talk about that, because I feel like social media is changing human behavior in real life. It's making people's collective attention spans decrease. It's making people insecure. I think it's fueling narcissism. So how do you make it a more mentally healthy environment? I think that there's really three types of work I personally think we have to do. The first is to identify acute issues. You know, if people who are at risk of self-injury are becoming more at risk, how do we address that? How do we make sure that they can still do

what a lot of people who are struggling with self-injury do on social media, which is get support, get help. It's important to talk about your experience. Maybe you're 30 days clean and you wanna celebrate that. How do we allow that content on Instagram without content that celebrates self-injury? So, identify cute issues, identify solutions, that work never ends. Keep

working there. Then I think we need to identify areas where we can go further, where we can be innovative, where we can define new ways of addressing the issues. Like one of the ones that we've been focused on for about two years now is bullying. And so then what can we do there? And there we try to invent new things, things like restrict, right? Restrict allows you to block someone without you knowing about it. I love restrict. That's thing to do it's my favorite because they're still posting but they don't know that no one can see it but them yeah and so that was from our work on bullying but then the third area is what are the core things about how instagram works or social media works that we need to rethink that's why we experimented with and made it so that people could pick to have

like counts be private for instance are there core things that we need to rethink because they are creating too much bad or too many problems and not enough good what about taking away likes i remember that was a flirtatious idea yeah so the idea was to allow you to well originally was to hide like counts you could still like things but it would be less of a popularity contest so you could see it but not everybody else yes um it turned out to be really polarizing it didn't seem to change much about how people felt about instagram it we tried to see if it changed people's well-being we try to measure well-being your question by asking people sending these are surveys so essentially we work with academics professionals experts outside of the company who have defined all

sorts of ways of measuring well-being. So what they did is they designed a set of questions whose answers correlate. So if you say you have a support network, if you say you are not lonely, these things correlate with real-world well-being outcomes over the long run. And so then we try to run surveys on Instagram and ask people those same questions. And we try to see for things like hiding like counts that change how people answer those questions. It didn't. But some people love this and some people hated it. And so what we did is we said, all right, well, given that, let's give people a choice. You can decide. You can hide

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Listen to I Do Part 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. of seeing if I like her booty or not I'm tired of Bitcoin because you should invest with this person word is born I don't know what he was talking about something long and hard I don't get that one but go ahead why stops yeah so some of this happens just because we make mistakes and we think you're interested in things that you're not interested in. And so right now you can say, by the way. Show them it.

Do you like it long as it's hard? All I get. Why would you think I would like it? Are they ads or are they just like regular posts? It's spam. Like spam bots. It's probably based off of your. Oh, comments.

Comments. Ah, this is the spam. It's based off of his Google search. Yeah, yeah. Okay. No, hold on. These are different issues. Google search.

You're talking about spam in the comments, right? Sorry. I thought you were talking about in your Explorer. No. This is spam in the comments. If you're getting, do you want a long and hard in your Explorer? I was like, I'm not trying to address this. Stop ordering those penis pills, Charlamagne.

You keep ordering those penis enlargement pills. I was like, this is some delicate answer to this question i was like all right so i'm like what are you following man okay i feel way better now thank you for making me feel good about it even if i wasn't an explorer you know it teach their own if it's in your explore, no judgments. You should have seen how his face was long and hard. And the way he yelled at you. No, it's in the comments.

I can post the picture right now and within seconds. Yeah, so the bots and the spam comments. So we are working on this. One of the things is we've made less progress on this issue as some other issues because we've prioritized things like safety issues. But we've gotten better at bots. But the thing is the spammers and the bots, they've gotten more sophisticated. So we do things.

We look like, okay, if you comment every second of the day, 24 hours a day, you're not a person, you're a bot. So we shut you down. But they've gotten sophisticated. They mask themselves with different phones. They do it on different intervals. They pretend to sleep. They do all of this stuff.

And so it's an arms race so to speak as we get better at addressing issues they work around those issues and then we got to get better at addressing those new issues you should hire them they seem pretty we tried we know we try what about getting verified people always want to know how can i get verified yes there's people that are like i can pay if you pay me i can get you my right to Adam damn scam so you can apply in the app the point of verification though it's not supposed to be a status symbol it's supposed to be a way for people who are getting impersonated to be able to signal to the world what their real account is now it is turned into a

status symbol I get that but that was not ever the intent. You can apply in the app. What we look for essentially is notability. We try to evaluate it using third parties. So we basically look for press about you. There's no minimum follower count. If you don't get approved in the vast majority of the cases, it's because we couldn't find enough press about you. Let's say I search cars, and then all I'll get is cars, car, car, car, car, car, car. Or if I search phones, all I'll get is phone, phone, phone, phone, phone. Do you guys do that? And can we take that off so I don't have to see that all day long? Sure, if we give search, then I can be talking about something.

Right. We don't listen. We don't listen. You're a liar. My wife thinks I'm a liar in this, too. It's a real constant fight at the home. Okay, so on the search or on ads more broadly. So this is ads where this will liar on this, too. It's a real constant fight at the home. Okay, so on this search, or on ads more broadly. So this is ads where this will happen.

Ads, yep. Though Explore is a little tippy, too. Like if I express a little bit too much interest in something, I get a lot of that thing for a couple of hours. So we're trying to get to a better balance there. But on ads, you can. You can go to your ad preferences and you can say, I'm interested.

It will show you what we think you're interested in and you can change them um and so that's over under settings under your profile under ad preferences for listening we are not listening it would be a gross violation of policy it would also drain your battery your phone would turn on like you'd be able to know it but all the time we get accused of this i think what is happening is one sometimes the advertising is actually working like you saw it a couple times and then you thought about it and then you know and then you noticed it you talked about it yeah I don't have a Bible to make you put you I will put my hand on it I don't mind I'm a hundred percent I don't know how to come I'm not gonna convince you clearly, I'll do it. I think also is that we don't just show you ads based on what we know about you.

We show you ads based on what your friends seem to like. We call that collaborative filtering. And ads are good. We're good at figuring out what you're interested in. We don't always get it right. We make mistakes. I know a lot of people don't like ads, but we think that ads fundamentally allow small businesses to play on an equal playing field with big businesses. Has that ever happened to you?

Have you been talking about something? Then you look down at your Instagram, the ad for it pops up? Not directly, no. But I've definitely had things been like, how the hell did we know I was interested in that? Now, how many meetings did y'all have to ban the president? Was that a huge conversation? It was an intense conversation um but it was an intense set of circumstances we didn't have a policy for what happens when a sitting president

incites a riot to try to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to a new president it's sort of this new territory for all of us he was lying his whole presidency though y'all could have took him down early on right but we don't have a policy against lying. We have a policy against lying when there's safety risks. You can make that case here. But we also want to make sure that politicians can get held accountable for their actions, and so they've had historically

in certain areas different rules. The same way public figures have different rules. But that was an intense moment. And we have this thing that we call the Oversight Board now, because a lot of these decisions, we think, shouldn't be made by us directly. So we sort this thing that we call the oversight board now because a lot of these decisions we think shouldn't be made by us directly. So we sort of built this board, it's independent, and we made this decision and then we asked them for their opinion on it basically.

They did what I would have done, which they said is like, yeah, we would have banned them too, but you have to have a policy. You can't just like do something as a one off. I think that was fair. And then we defined a policy now, and he's suspended for two years. Who owns the pictures that you post on? Because there was a rumor that you own the pictures. You own your pictures.

So we own the pictures. So Instagram does not own the pictures. Yeah. Once every year or two, we get a false declaration that you don't own your stuff. And if you repost this random chain letter, you own it, and it goes viral. But then we try to go on, correct it as quickly as possible, and make sure people know what the real rules are. I wonder about the intention. I wonder what the intention was when they first started a lot of these sites. But also, when you see Frankenstein becoming Frankenstein, when do you know maybe it might be time to take down Frankenstein?

Is Frankenstein the whole thing at this point? It feels like it. Like, when you watch movies like, when you watch documentaries like The Social Dilemma on Netflix, what goes through your mind? That specific one, though, I felt like was a little bit dramatic. Triplet programmers, like, in a Star Trek place, deciding what you see is clearly not how things work.

But overall, I thought they were bringing up important issues that should be talked about. I thought that's a healthy thing. Now, look, I'm biased. i want to recognize that up front but i really believe that we do a lot of good in the world we help a lot of people express themselves we help them go straight to their fans or to the or to their friends they don't have to go to traditional media uh we help small businesses around the world we help marginalized communities around the world in a lot of ways but there's bad that comes too. Now, I think there's more good than bad.

So I don't think it makes sense to put a bullet in Frankenstein, to use your metaphor. Right. It has leveled the playing field for people too. In a huge way. I love to see how a La La Milan or a DC Young Fly, how some of these creators have been able to really use social media to get the platforms that they have now. But then I hate QAnon. And then I hate the fact that there was an attempted coup of the government on January 6th.

Like, I really feel like we're headed to some Orson Welles war of the world type because of nobody cares about the truth on social media when the lies more anything. Well, I think confirmation bias is a thing. And that's as old as time. People want to hear what they agree with. They don't want to hear what they don't agree with. Just give me the keys to the nuclear code. My goodness. Tell me, just give me the keys to the nuclear code. My goodness.

Just tell me, just give me the keys and I can just go in and delete pages. That's it. I can do that. I got time. It's a lot of people. It's a lot of people. I got it. Just give me the keys to the nuclear code.

But the concerns you have, like I said before, we had those concerns about every major new technology, particularly around the ones that change how people communicate. One of the big concerns about writing when it first existed was that there was no one there to disagree with you. But those people get held liable, though. You can sue an author for slandering defamation. That's why they take the change names in books and things of that nature. But for certain issues, yeah.

But for other issues, no. You could say something. You can make a case for something that is really problematic in a bunch of different ways, put it out there, and it doesn't violate a law in any country. You can sue for defamation on social media too, though, right? If somebody says something about you that's defamatory and not true. Yeah, I think the question is,

who's accountable? Is it the person who said it? Or the platform? Or the platform. And I think the platforms need to be held accountable for taking not just reasonable, but meaningful measures to reduce these problems. I don't think it's sustainable for us to be accountable for everything everybody says because if we were we would have to take down so much content

that you would have a huge censorship issue we appreciate you for joining us so little do I mean little booze these pages down to the nudity sorry about why low do well I don't know off the top of my head. I'll look it up, though. Okay. Well, it's Adam. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's go.

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owning a fish market the construction to selling narcotics it It is what it is. It was what it was. My mother kept a book in my face. I read everything from my book of Bible stories to Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret. Side note, Judy Blume sent me and my oldest daughter an autographed copy of Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret. Drop on the clues bombs for Judy Blume. Bro, you can't shout that out with a mask.

Yo, relax. Yo, relax, son. All right. Okay. She signed it to Charlemagne. And in parentheses, Lenard, love you from your fan, Judy Blume. Thank you, relax. Yo, relax, son. Okay. She signed it to Charlemagne. And in parentheses, Lenard, love you from your fan, Judy Blume. Thank you, Judy. Also, side note to a side note.

I ordered some penis enlargement pills and I've been taking them. And I've been chanting, I must, I must, I must increase my thrust. I explained it on this week's Brilliant Idiots podcast. Go listen. Now, what's my point here? My point here is that I come from the dirt. All right. South Carolina, 843 all day. That is always in me. Therefore, I will always love the ratchetness of life. Even at 42 years old, married with three kids and a receding hairline. I love ratchetness. I still do hood rat things with my friends.

We just do it at our houses are on vacation when the kids go to sleep. But the reason I'm giving myself donkey of the day is because this morning when i was here by myself i was talking about the domestic terrorists that uh you know hit the capital you know vanilla isis and i was still on a high after listening to all these good country rap tunes this morning on title and i feel i feel stupid just listen to how i've been sounding this morning i've talked my way out of enough home invasions to know when something is a setup, okay? I don't even know who to trust in government anymore, but I know who I do trust. And that's no damn body, okay?

Period. And for some reason, I started to say, and that's on Crip, but I'm not a Crip, so I don't even know why the hell I would even say something like that. All right, salute to all the gangs out there. I'm driving in this morning. I heard you shout out all the gangs. I don't know why I said that. I'm going to be honest with you. You know how somebody be talking like, that's on Crip. And then I had to think about it.

Like, I ain't even know Crip. Why am I saying that? Salute to all the gangs, though. Mello, I don't know what's going on up here, though. Mello! To Woo! What's up? What's up? We held it down for the morning while everybody wasn't there, man. It's about time. I appreciate that, Slav.

It's about time. I don't know who died and made you 6'9", but you better stop. I don't know who died and made me 6'9". He's a mellow. There's quite a few problems with all those statements. Number one, I don't gangbang. Never have in my life. I'm not a crip, not a blood either.

I'm nothing. I'm a man who has therapy today at 3 p.m. I'm a man who is scared to order a protein shake from around the corner here in Tribeca because I feel like they keep giving me whole milk and not almond milk. And I don't have time to spend hours on the toilet today. And I get dairy bumps. My point with saying all of this and the reason I'm giving myself donkey today is because I just feel stupid. And donkey today is all about giving people the credit they deserve for being stupid. If you read my first book, The New York Times bestselling black privilege. And you know, one of my laws in my book was always give people the credit they deserve for being stupid, including yourself. And that's

what I'm doing right now. The reason I feel stupid is because I was writing in the work this morning, listening to the new South playlist on title, brother is some records on there that make my inner child smile. I mean, there are records on there that make the hood in me happy. I'm from South Carolina, the 843-803-864. When you come from a certain environment, there is a certain energy that is always in you. And when you listen to certain music, certain music is so powerful.

And it will just have you feeling like you're something you're not. That's what Pooh Shiesty guard up did for me. Play Pooh Shiesty guard up. Let me hear a little bit of that, man. Come on. God damn. Man, somebody dig up Plyde Gold Teeth.

Dig up Plyde Gold Teeth so I can put them in my mouth. Okay? That's what Off the Porch by Key Glock did for me this morning. I was listening to Roaring Twenties by Flo Millie and then my dog, Lil Boss from North Charleston, South Carolina. He's on the new subtitle playlist and he's got a song called I Know It. He's from the same state as me. He's from the Chuck. How can I

not be influenced, okay? How can I not be? You know what I feel like right now? I'm at the point where I'm like AWACS on Minister Society. Salute to the good brother, MC8. Make sure y'all check out that Gangsta Chronicles podcast on the Black Effect iHeartRadio network. I'm like AWACS.

I done did so much dirt that I just like to see other people do it. I like to hear it. I like to feel it. I like to see it. But I'm not doing it. Envy, you don't ever hear certain records and it takes you back to your old wild out days? Yes. So I'm not alone here then.

Yeah, you are a little bit alone. What do you mean? Why? Why? Why am I alone? Because you have a ski mask on and you've been saying on slime. Yo, you judging me, slime? See?

On God. Why are you pointing a gun at me? A fake gun. You're right. Let me put that away. Say what's wrong with him? I'm just saying it really makes you think about the influence this music is having on the youth because it influenced my big grown ass this morning.

But not because they might rap about violence or doing criminal activities or gang stuff, but because it's fun. It's just fun. I mean, listen to these country rap tunes. Play some of that Key Glock off the porch. Just listen. Hey, I jumped off the porch, then I jumped

in the roof. I used to ride 10 speeds, now I got a new coupe. Young, huggin', humble, but I play it all cool. But don't think this shit ain't my push on the news. Hey, come on, man. Hey, play some of that Flo Millie roaring 20s. Now, I'm going to tell you something. You know I'm all about the sacred masculine and the divine feminine. Okay? This right here is for the divine hood rat in all of us.

Play some of this roaring 20s by Flo Millie, okay? Come on, man. That's for all the Negroes that want to do the busted challenge, but our needs not what they used to be, okay? Okay? Hey, play a snippet of my dog, Lil Boss, okay? I know it. South Carolina all day.

Come on now. Come on now. Come on now. Come on now. You feel me, slime? On trip. Okay? What are you doing?

Yo, Dramos on God and them give me the biggest hee-haw. Okay? Envy, take me to court right now. This guy forgot he's 40 years old and has three kids. And has three kids. I need to go to Breakfast Club Court. Put me on trial right now. Make me sit my old ass down somewhere. Ladies and gentlemen, call us up right now.

800-585-1051. It's Charlamagne Tha God, a.k.a. Leonard McKelvey, a.k.a. Fake Ass Crip, a.k.a. Fake Ass Slop, a.k.a. 6ix9ine Reincarnated. Does he have a problem right now? Is he too old to be having music influence

him like this? Right now he has a ski mask on. He's been saying, brat, brat, brat, brat, with his little shoot-two-two-two gun that he has in his hand. That's a fake gun. That's his finger. I'm holding it sideways, too. See? What is wrong with him? What is wrong with him?

Yo, stay away from me. 800-585-1051. Is this guy too old to be having music influence him like that? Are we too old to be having music influence us like that? Because we too old to be having music influence us like that? Because I can say, what up, gangsta? What up, blood? What up, cum? What up, gangsta?

What up? What up? What up? What up? You know what I'm saying? I'll be on the block later on today. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah.

How do you want to take it? We can take it. Let's go. It is like that. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. I'll get up now. That's right. Take it back to Dirty Queen, Zimpy.

That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about! That's what I'm talking about! Alright. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Oh, she, she came with her. But she gonna slide right to my side. I know she pulled up with her friends.

Then we skirt off in the band Took her back to my crib And I regret it Cause she tryna Feel like she asleep So she try to stay the whole week I'm like, hold on, she gotta go Ask me her name, that's why I don't even fuck with her

They wanna know why the gal damn deep on me Damn, I ain't green, damn, I ain't your shit, pal, me They wanna know why damn, love him off so much Like, what is the reason? Oh, it's just a vibe, I'm that guy She put her legs in the sky whenever I pull up She got her clothes off from the walk And she won't waste no time, oh

She don't want nobody else, I know But I can't be what she wants They all have the same story They all want me to themselves But I'ma jealous This city is my palace What I'ma do? Cause I want she and she and she

And they love them so me I ain't the new, they gon' say bye to I ain't the new, gotta lie to I ain't the new, they gon' say bye to I ain't the new, gotta lie to I ain't the new, that you could trust on speaker When you're with your people Cause you know the timing, I'm on I'm on she and she and she And they love them so me

I can't even speak to all of them So I call her on the FaceTime She gon' pick up on the first ring Well, I got her right a FaceTime. She gonna pick up on the first ring. Well, I got her right there on my damn finger. I will never tell her so. Oh, no, no. Girl, we grown.

Life of a goddess. It's topic time. Pick up the phone, baby. Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club. Talk about it. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.

Now, if you just joined us, Charlamagne came to work this morning a little under the influence. Yeah, under the influence. Under the influence of country rap tunes, okay? I deserve to be in Breakfast Club court this morning. I feel stupid. I've been in here gangbanging on the radio, and I just feel like I'm too old to still be influenced by music. I promise you, it literally was the New South playlist on Tidal. Listening to stuff like Key Glock off the porch

and my man Lil Boss, I know it, and, you know, Pooh Shiesty guard up. It really, really, really, really took me to a place that I absolutely enjoy. Yeah, so we're asking, Charlemagne, are we all too old to be influenced by music right now? I don't think so, bro. You know what I'm saying? I really don't.

And I have no reason for saying that other than I just really enjoy it. Are we going through a midlife crisis? I don't think so. You know, like, Charlemagne, you have a ski master drinking Starbucks. Like, what is that? It's called balance. Is that a bougie gangster? What are you? It's called balance.

You think gangbangers don't need caffeine? I don't know. You need energy to do a drive-by or two. You think I just put money on people's head without a little latte? Okay. Hello, who's this? This is Regina. Hey, Regina. You think I just put money on people's head without a little latte? Hello, who's this? This is Regina. Hey, Regina. You know your boys up here with a ski mask on drinking a latte. I love it. With a pinky in the

air. It's a little weird. Talk to me, Regina. We have to do I'm from Jacksonville, Florida. I be in my car and sometimes I be a thug. I could be a thug. I could be a a Florida. Hey, I'd be in my car, and sometimes I'd be a thug. You know, I could be a thug. I could be a sweetheart.

But listen, Charlamagne keeps doing it. Thank you, baby. Fuck, fuck. Look at that. Whoa, ho, ho, ho, ho. That's what I'm talking about. Jackie killed Florida. Hello, who's this?

This guy's crazy. It's John. Hey, John. Where you calling from? I'm calling from Florida. You know what? I don't think it's a good thing when you got a bunch of Florida people looking down on you. Don Charlemagne has a ski mask on right now.

He's drinking a latte with his pinky in the finger. It's not a latte. It's a green tea with pinky, sir. I don't know what he wants to do with that pinky. I don't know. But you think his ass is too old for all this? Man, sit your old ass down somewhere, man. How old are you, sir?

I'm 33. Oh, you're 33. Okay. You're still living out your old wild out days. You're still cheating on your girl. I did that when I was 20. I got arrested four times in one year. Congratulations. What was the biggest charge?

The biggest one was home invasion. What music were you listening to when you did that home invasion? Upper Florida, man. I listen to all kinds of stuff, man. I don't even know Plyde. Okay. Probably Kodak. No, that was a while ago. That was a while ago?

All right. Kodak was in middle school back then. But you got your life together now. Yeah, definitely, definitely, man. Sit your old ass down. You got a family, man. You're right. Boy, brother, thank you.

You know what? You take this, God. When you say that, once you add that, you got a family. That's like when a gangbanger say, oh, God in them, he going to do something to you. Once somebody tell you, sit your old ass down, you got a family. That's like when a gangbanger say, oh, God and them, he going to do something to you. Once somebody tell you, sit your ass down, you got a family, that's when you get back to reality. He right. Hello, who's this? Christian out of Philly.

Hey, Christian out of Philly. Good morning, Christian. Now, Charlamagne, is his ass too old to be wilding out to this music? No, I don't know. That's what you're supposed to be doing. Listen, it's balance in life. It's the yang and the yang. It's the drug dealer and the professional.

Because every morning, I'm listening to King Vine. I'm from Philly, and I'm not from 63rd. I do that every morning. And then I do my professional nine to five. And when I come home, it's back to Jasmine Sullivan and all of that. So you need balance. It's about balance. I agree with you.

Ratchetness and righteousness is the yin and the yang of life. Right, exactly. I'm with you. It's about code switching. We code with music, too. I'm with you we close with music too i'm with you because i did the same thing i woke up this morning i meditated i had my beads in my hand i was doing my mantras and then i'm going to therapy at three o'clock but when i was driving into work it was them country rap tunes bro listen we moving weight we are moving weight As I felt. Oh, my goodness. I really felt like that. We were all up and down 95.

We doing it. We doing it. Okay. We got our 401Ks in place. We are professionals. We are parents. We have our PTA. They love us.

But we turned up. That's what you got to do. I'm with you. Let's go. You sell drugs in the morning. I'm not having a little bit of gray hair from me doing it and busting it. That's right. She's representing for all the people out there who still want to do the busting challenge,

but their knees not what they used to be, but we out here, baby. And I ain't posting it because I'm a mama, and I'm not posting it. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Let's go. Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Kenzie from Arkansas. Gang, gang, bro. What's up, bro?

What's happening, King? How old are you, King? What's up, man? I'm 29, bro. I'm 29, bro? What's happening, King? How old are you, King? What's up, man? I'm 29, bro. I'm 29, bro. I bang that C all day. I bang that C all day. I don't even know what that means.

That's Christ. What's that mean? That's Christ, bro. That's Christ. That's Christ. Oh, Christ. Oh, Christ. Oh, I'm with that.

I throw up the C's for Christ. All day. So when you banging the Christ, when you throwing up that C for Christ, Jesus gang, what do you listen to? I listen to, I ain't going to lie, Young Thug, I ain't going to lie. I listen to Drake. I listen to, you know, I ain't going to lie. I throw some, I throw some maybe some Yolanda Adams maybe in there.

I like the balance. I love the balance, King. From Young Thug to Yolanda Adams, I love the balance. Now, you're a young man. You know what I'm saying? You got to. Youanda Adams. I love the balance. Now you're young. You're young. You know what I'm saying? You got to. You're 29. Charlamagne 42.

Should Charlamagne be banging out this every morning? Yeah, he can have balance. He can bang right. He can bang left. That's right. In the middle. Right. No, left.

Right. Middle. You can tell his daughters, yo, a sly kid clean the kitchen. You know what I'm saying? That's right. On the set. Oh, my goodness. On the set, you better have that kitchen clean.

Hello, who's this? Yes, hi. Hey, this is Miss Ed from the Doveville in Ohio. Now, is Charlamagne too old to be gang-ganging this morning? I'd have to second the motion, yes. But I have to add myself to it, too. I be thinking i'm just ratchet you talk about luda p popping oh my god i'm 33 years old with two kids that had me going i never

see pop in my life but i can twerk talking about gucci and gz i be thinking i'm about to shoot somebody when i'm mad 13 years old so yes you do have your moments they do influence you now listen gz and guc, that was our era. We were still in our old wild out days when they was in their prime. Yes. These new Negroes different. These new Negroes will take you someplace even further than Jeezy and Gucci them did. I'm telling you.

They still will, honey. They have you on lean, literally. And don't act like you ain't never did no peep-popping because you said you got three kids. Okay? Honey, I got two and I have, but I don't know how to do it on a handstand. Clearly, you know how to do something. Because that meant whoever, them baby daddies you got. But they do influence us.

They do influence us. They do influence us. And I have my racking moments, too, and I've been a school bus driver for eight years. Listen, them baby daddies you got released their ancestors and you for a reason. You know how to peep-pop something on something. Honey, yes, but not on the handstand, right, but on the back-stand stand. Hey, I'm telling you. All right, well, don't move.

Happy holidays. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Everybody, it's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. All right, well, you got a positive note? Positive note is simply this. Maybe you're not healing because you're trying to be who you were before the trauma.

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