The Breakfast Club - Flashback: Yvonne Orji and Nick Cannon interview

Episode Date: December 22, 2021

Today on the show we flashed back to when Yvonne Orji stopped by and spoke about the final season of "Insecure". and new project ventures. Also, we flashed back to when Nick Cannon blessed us with his... presence and spoke about polygamous love, cancel culture, Mariah Verzuz, rap career and so much more. Remember when Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to a home inspector that performed sexual acts on a tickle me elmo doll? well we ran that back as well. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:49 The Breakfast Club. Everyone just kept telling me to prep for this. One word to describe the Breakfast Club would be black. Impacting the culture. People watch the Breakfast Club for like news and really be tuned in, man. I don't even know what it's called, the Breakfast Club. It's like brunch. Envy.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Yee. And Charlamagne. Wake that ass up. Get out of Yee, and Charlamagne. Wake that ass up. Get out of bed and listen to the breakfast club. I'm waking up. I'm dialing. I'm dialing.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Hey, what you doing, man? I'm dialing. I'm calling you. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello,
Starting point is 00:02:27 who's this? Hey, good morning. It's me, Latisha. Hi, DJ Envy. Hey, En. What up, Char? Hey. Good morning. Good morning. How are you? I'm fine, thank you. Last time I called Charlamagne, he wasn't there, but I'm glad to hear your voice. So I had a question for you, Charlamagne. Yes, ma'am. Why are you always
Starting point is 00:02:44 yawning in the microphone like that? Like, why do you do that? Why do you do that? Simple. Simple answer. Simple answer. Don't tell me because I'm tired because I wake up early in the morning. Don't tell me that.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Duh. It's 6 something in the morning. No. Come on, Charlamagne. You're not still yawning, wiping coal out your eye at 6 something in the morning? So you want him to mute the mic when he yawns. Don't nobody want to hear all that. That's just to me.
Starting point is 00:03:10 That's like somebody yawning right next to me in my ear. I'd be like, damn, Char, what are you doing right now? You're like, oh, yeah, because if you're, oh, no, no, no. I don't really know. Well, you're going to hate to know that I pass gas, too, sometimes. Not in my clothes, though. Oh, not yet, yet. You go to the bathroom and pull your pants down, right?
Starting point is 00:03:27 There you go. Well, anyways. Glad you know. Thank you. Oh, one more thing, one more thing. Elijah McClain, Sandra Bland, Breonna Taylor. Let's do it. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:36 There you go. Forever. Thank you. I like that. Hello, who's this? I was just about to yawn before she said that, by the way. Hello, who's this? Hello. Hey, what's your name, bro? Hello. Hey., by the way. Hello, who's this? Hello.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Hey, what's your name, bro? Hello. Money-making Mitch, how y'all doing? Money-making Mitch, you ain't making no money right now. You ain't making no money in a recession. Are you crazy? Cut it out, Charlemagne. How you making money?
Starting point is 00:03:57 Tell me how you making money. By giving proper advice on how people should be really clean in their house. That's enough money for me to educate these people. Oh, you finessing. Of course. If you really, really, really want to kill this coronavirus, all hospitals and everybody's home, just start from the sterilization room.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Start from the bathroom. Then work your way out. Everything you use in the bathroom, you can use around the whole apartment. Every hospital that's scared, they training we um sterility is important so if you just expand your sterilization department and make the whole hospital sterile then everything every item every equipment every instrument can actually be um used properly all these money making mitch let me ask you a question. People actually paying for this advice?
Starting point is 00:04:46 Of course they are. Cleaning the bathroom? Cleaning your bathroom, actually. I agree that you have to do sterilization, but you do know that it's transmitted from person to person, right? Exactly, but it depends on how many people are in your house and do you have a team that's doing sterilization? This is a family. This isn't people from next door
Starting point is 00:05:02 coming into my house. How are you making money off this? Yeah, I'm confused. How do you make money? Oh, you're talking about financial money. I don't need financial money. I don't need no finances. I'm fine financially.
Starting point is 00:05:14 What other money is there? Yeah, my money's there. But financially, I'm fine. But the other money is, the other important money is information. Knowledge is power. Yeah, correct. Knowledge is currency. You mean, I get what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:05:28 So that right there alone, I'm saving lives by telling people. I served in the military 17 years as a medical officer. I've done all forms of surgery. I've been in so many different situations and we treat every patient. Now, this is the coronavirus. We treat every patient as if they were HIV.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Now we have to treat every patient as if they were hiv now we have to treat every patient as if they have hiv corona um and all these other um symptoms that's that's that's that's pretty dope because now you have to stay on top of sterility for the rest of your life you understand this is no this should be awakening call well thank you brother for calling man we really don't understand but you know to each his. So you're talking about that type of money. You're talking about financial money. What other money is there? He made currency, that's all.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Hello, who's this? Oh, this is Mike, man. Mike, man, what up? Get up your chest, Mike. Man, I was mad about yourself, man. You know, really, man, it took me five years to get through on this stuff, man. You waited five years to tell us that? No, I waited five years to get through on this joke, man. You waited five years to tell us that? No, I waited five years to talk to y'all, man.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I've been calling for five years straight, man. So what do you want to say? Man, man, I just shout out to the boys at Rob Buster's Incorporated, man. We on our way to work, man. Everybody be safe, man. It ain't matter. I'm happy to be alive, man. There you go, King.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Just be happy to be here. I appreciate it, man. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need, King. I'll be happy to be here. I appreciate it, man. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:06:56 This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're man or blessed. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. So if you got something on your mind, let it out. Hello, who's this? Uh, Jay. Jay, what if you got something on your mind, let it out. Hello, who's this? Uh, this is Jay. Jay, what up? Get it off your chest, bro.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Man, I got dealt dirty. I got played. You know, I feel like crap. What's the matter? What's the matter? I had a business partner. Me and him went in the business together. You know, I gave everything. I even went and got that SBA loan. And he did too. And we went and went in the business, got our own truck and everything. I even went and got that SBA loan. He did too.
Starting point is 00:07:29 We went and ran the business, got our own truck and everything. He went behind my back, got another truck. All this funny stuff. Went to the accountant without me. Everything. I'm left with nothing. I had to even bail where I was living at. I'm back with my parents. I'm starting to swear all
Starting point is 00:07:47 over again. I am so sorry now. I'm sorry, bro. So y'all didn't have a contract with each other? No. He was my homeboy. Me and him went through three jobs together. He introduced me. We met at the same job. He found another one, got me on, and then I found a better one
Starting point is 00:08:03 so we could get our Class A CDLs and I brought him with me. I just want to say, man, I have started a business with somebody I was I've known since I was like in fifth grade, which, you know, in the future, because I do feel bad that this happened to you, make sure you do an operating
Starting point is 00:08:19 agreement when you start a business with somebody because you have to have your paperwork right. You never know what might happen. That way that way legally you'll be able to say but even though you could be best friends family members married but if you do have a business together do make sure you have an operating agreement and have a real lawyer invest in that because when things go left you need to make sure and a lot of times things do go left in business y'all don't even want to have to have that conversation it's just all in the paperwork. Yeah, see, now, how I feel now is like, you know, I want to get back to that state.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Like I said, I'm still off the ground here. You know, I ain't never, I ain't giving up. Right. And now you got something to prove. Yeah, yeah, I want to get back to that state, but I want to do it for me. I'm going to do it myself, you know. You got this. You learned a lot.
Starting point is 00:09:04 You learned a lot. You learned a lot. Yeah. I already taken an L, right? Yeah, you took an L, but that L also means learn from it. Yeah, it's a learning experience. Good luck, brother. Hello, who's this? What's up, man? It's Big Ruben, man. St. Louis, Missouri.
Starting point is 00:09:20 What up, Ruben? Get it off your chest, bro. What's up, man? I just want to say, first off, man, appreciate everything y'all do. Love all y'all, especially my girl, Angela Yee. But heard the announcement for the Super Bowl performances, man, and I was like you. I was hyped, man. And then, you know, on the radio, we got this negative Nancy Charlemagne
Starting point is 00:09:39 that gives out, man, just kind of, you know, ain't nothing wrong with that performance, man. I think it's going to be a good show. Let me ask you a question, sir. Why do you think it's negative to ask why our legends in hip-hop have to share a stage collectively when you got people like the Katy Perrys of the world and whoever else who don't even have the resume they do, they get their own solo show? And I asked the question.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I said, I wonder if that was a prerequisite to them performing. Because they don't let acts like that perform at the Super Bowl. Let's be clear. So I was wondering, was that a prerequisite? Or, you know, I just was asking a question. That's all. Besides maybe like Michael Jackson or Whitney Houston, it's always been shows where artists are coming on with rock groups,
Starting point is 00:10:24 with rappers out there with them so this ain't the first time that happened man everybody except Mary is from Cali man so Eminem is not from there Eminem's from Detroit shut up Eminem's not from there but damn he's been on all West Coast music that's Dre boy Dre brought him out that's not true either
Starting point is 00:10:39 but my point is if you're not wondering that then you're just not thinking I was just wondering why they had to do it as a collective. I love the show. I think it's a great lineup. But I'm just wondering why they had to do it as a collective. I love y'all too, man. I love you too, dog.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I appreciate everything you're doing. Well, thank you for calling in. Like I said, this morning when I heard that, man, I was hyped. And, bro, you're from St. Louis, correct? Huh? You're from St. Louis, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at property in St. Louis. Real estate in St. Louis is right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Start, look at property in St. Louis.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Real estate in St. Louis is at a good price right now and it's starting to increase a lot. So look at real estate in St. Louis. That's my next stop. All right, right on, man. Make an announcement when you're coming there. I do a seminar or something I definitely want to be a part of. I ain't doing no seminar. I'm just telling you, start looking at property in St. Louis.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Start Googling. Go to the websites because I'm hearing there's a lot of great deals and they're starting to build up the city a lot more. Well, maybe you should do a seminar there then. Maybe. But thank you, brother. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:11:35 If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Call us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Nick Dodcast, your love. Power 105.1. Envy, Angela Yee, and Charlemagne Tha God. Good morning, everybody. It's1 Envy, Angela Yee, and Charlamagne the God.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne the God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. And she look rich. Like filthy rich.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Sequin's on the boots. You already know. You know that it's Sherling. Listen, you know, I'm out here doing some things. Five seasons of HBO Texas. Not a bad look. All right.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Welcome back. I appreciate y'all. It's not a bad look. All right. Welcome back. I appreciate y'all. I was looking around for my balloons and Ace of Spades. Oh. I don't see. Y'all did that for somebody else that came on here from the show. It's cool. Damn.
Starting point is 00:12:15 It's cool. I love y'all too. Now listen, when you get this thing off. Yo, you were close with that. Okay, cool, cool, cool. So what we gonna do. But good to see you. How are you? Good to see you. How are you? How was your pandemic?
Starting point is 00:12:29 Man, I worked. We called each other actually around June of 2020 and we were like, yo, yo, who are all these people who are bored and don't have anything to do because now people know where we are. You can have that cloak of invisibility
Starting point is 00:12:44 when you're like, oh, I'm busy, I'm traveling. Everybody was home. So I was like, no, no, we know you're home. We know you're at the house. So can you do this other thing? And me, so like, we got like eight other things that we're doing. Like, I don't like that people can find us. No, bueno. I think by the time December of 2020 came around is when it was just like, I thought like my, a plan of mine got canceled and it was the first time that I was like, man,
Starting point is 00:13:06 this pandemic sucks. And, uh, my friend was like, so you mean you just now feeling what everybody else is feeling since March? Wow.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Like, don't, don't say that in public. And I was just like, yo, you right. And I had to, I was like,
Starting point is 00:13:18 yo, I'm mad grateful that like, I wasn't able to feel the breadth of it in terms of like how everyone else did. Cause we were just on autopilot. I was writing a book. I was premiering the special. We were doing Insecure Season 4 promo.
Starting point is 00:13:32 It was a lot just rolling. Yeah, you didn't have a lot. And I didn't have time to stop. And then I realized, I was like, no, I need to sit down because the world's going to open back up again. I'm going to be real upset that I didn't sit down. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:43 So that's what I've been doing. I remember you saying last time we spoke to you, you wrote the book yourself and you were like, damn it, why did I do that to myself? I told you not to do that. But I'm actually glad that I wrote it because in the process of writing it, like, I became myself.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Right. You know, and I had to go through the journey of, like, not trying to be perfect or say the right thing. It was like, no, no, no, no, you're going to be vulnerable and you're going to really tap into, like into who you are and what your voice is. It's relatable because you talk about your first hour-long headliner set that you did,
Starting point is 00:14:12 which I thought was a great story because a lot of times we do doubt ourselves. You know when you agree to do something and you don't feel like you're ready for it and then you're hoping that it's going to get canceled. Yo, I think the biggest lesson I learned from that was that my agent gave me the freedom to fail. And as an immigrant, that's not a thing that we give ourselves. It's like, literally, she was just like, well, let's just see. I was like, no, Heidi, we not about to let's just see because it's in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:14:38 If it don't work out, I'm going to be the one on stage getting booed. But she was just like, well, it'll let us know where you are. Like, we can figure out, like, if you need another 30 minutes or, like, if you just need a full hour. Like, let's just see. And that's so hard when you're a perfectionist. I'm a recovering perfectionist. But when you're a perfectionist or when you're a Nigerian,
Starting point is 00:14:58 we literally say, like, we can't finish second. So the idea of let's just see. And if it fails, it's fine. We can regroup. No, failure is, like, we can't finish second. So the idea of let's just see, and if it fails, it's fine. We can regroup. No. Failure is, like, literally never an option. Wow. And in that moment, she was giving me the luxury of failing.
Starting point is 00:15:13 That was a pivotal moment that changed. And then I got my hour. What is something that Yvonne Orji is hard on herself about? Because you always seem, like, so positive and go with the flow type. Well, you know, ease and flow is my new word. Like, I pick a word at the beginning of the year. Those are my words for 2021. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Because I was really, I said this year I'm becoming less Nigerian. Don't worry, I love y'all. But I had to undo the gangsterness that comes from hustling grind. Because I know that. Like, that's been my security blanket, and it's worked. Like, I've got successful hustle and grinding. And God was like, can I show you another way? Just can you, like, sit back and receive?
Starting point is 00:15:52 And I was like, yeah, I want it. It sounded good. And I'll never forget after we wrapped season five of Insecure, like, I found myself just, like, with not a lot to do for the first time in a long time. And I remember my therapy session, and I was like, yo, fam, I feel mad lazy right now. Like, I don not a lot to do for the first time in a long time and I remember my therapy session and I was like yo fam I feel mad lazy right now like I don't know what to do like I feel lazy I feel like I'm like what what what who am I she was like are you lazy or is your body
Starting point is 00:16:15 just at rest from a decade of working I was like well read me I was like is your name Dr. Rhonda too like what's going on and it it that also freed to be like, yo, we put it on ourselves. Like, I've really done a great job of separating my work from my worth. And I'm like, I'm so at peace with it. That's why I be traveling. I'm just like, oh, I don't, in this season, I don't feel compelled to, like, keep up. I've just, I've done what I've done and things are in the oven. And when they come out, they come out.
Starting point is 00:16:44 So you're cool with just relaxing and chilling out? Yes, I got to make space for a boo. I've done what I've done and things are in the oven and when they come out, they come out. So you're cool with just relaxing and chilling out? Yes, I gotta make space for my boo. I haven't gotten to that point. If I'm not doing something, I feel like I'm not doing nothing. I gotta work. I'm lazy. I can't stop that. Therapy helps. In therapy, they'll tell you that being busy is a trauma response a lot of times.
Starting point is 00:17:01 You're staying busy because you're running from something. You're afraid what may happen if you sit down and just be alone with yourself and your thoughts. So you said you have to make space for a boo. I do. So when it comes to you
Starting point is 00:17:12 looking for a guy and standards, what would you say you're looking for? Like you have to be currently walking in your purpose. I can't do those science fair projects. I appreciate everybody that's on the come up and doing it. I'm just not there right now in my life to support that. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:17:31 And there are going to be some people that are like, you missed out on. I did. I did. At this point in my life, I need a fully formed human being who is currently working on themselves, knows who they are, confident in who they are, and fulfilling purpose. You need a partner, not a project. Every single homegirl I got says that. I need a partner, not a project.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Everybody's work is different. And so for me, I'm like, I want to start here and work here. All right, we have more with Yvonne Orji. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:18:06 It's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Yvonne Orgy Yee. Now, you're also hosting Yearly Departed, right? So, talk to me about that, because that's all women comedians. Phenomenal. I feel like there's a great
Starting point is 00:18:21 time right now for women in comedy. What do you think? I think so, too. That project was really special, because I literally had just come from Insecure that's like a great time right now for women in comedy what do you think i think so too that that project was really special because i literally had just come from insecure that's like black and black and black and black you know it's just like lots of brown and brown stories brown characters to jump now into like oh all women it's like i love when representation is really represented um so it was like female producers a female director and then female comedic um actor so everybody wasn't a comedian but they were like comedy in the comedy side guy space um and it was beautiful because everybody just brought their specialty it's gonna be good i host it i have two
Starting point is 00:18:56 like monologues and i think they were happy and it's nice for you to host i like it though now was there any part of you that uh really related to molly last season and was that tough on you psychologically because you've been the fan favorite for so long yeah you know pressure breakers were rough um and i was saying like season one i felt like i didn't understand molly i was like i'm just like i didn't have a lot of molly's in my life um and so I was like learning her and then season two was kind of like oh she was teaching me some stuff and then you know at some point I was teaching her we're all kind of like either ahead of each other and so
Starting point is 00:19:37 now we're kind of parallel a little bit and it's interesting because going through, you know, not being on set with Issa, I was shook. I was like, yo, Issa, who wrote this season? Like, we're not on set together. Like, when I see you, we fighting. Like, this don't sit right with my spirit, but I understood. But I am acting. I understood the storyline, but I was like, yo, this is trash. But I learned in that season because it's like, yo, you go as an adult going through a friendship breakup.
Starting point is 00:20:08 It's wild. It's rough. And there's so many nuances. Did you think that this would have an impact on y'all real relationship, though? I mean, the fact because of the storyline and y'all wasn't spending that much time on set. Did it ever like, man, this might impact our real friendship? No, because it was all love. I feel like the season finale is when I was like, I got to let you go.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Like, it's like, you're my friend, but like, I'm really like, you're released into the world now. Like, you're like, you're a different Issa than when we started. And like, we're not going to be spending four to six months together every year. And it was it was kind of like it wasn't it wasn't a goodbye because I know where you are. We still text everybody every day. And she's dope. But it was like, you're not mine. You know, like I really took ownership of what we had.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And I found myself like emotional last Sunday when we premiered. She was just like, because we spent Thursday together, Friday together, Saturday together. And Sunday I was just like in the bathtub listening to Gideon. This sounds so sad. So damn sad. But it was also like, y'all.
Starting point is 00:21:12 You smoked a cigarette. Journaling. And so she was like, girl, you going to come watch the premiere? I was like, girl, one, I'm tired. Two, I'm just being my feelings. She was like, not you sitting in the bathtub crying. I was like, not you not being my fillies. She was like, not you sitting in the bathtub crying. I was like, not you not respecting my morning face.
Starting point is 00:21:28 But it was funny because when she cracked me up, I was like, that's why I love you. She instantly got me out of my thing because for me, this is the thing that ushered me into the platform that I have. And I know I'm doing other things. So not even like I'm going to do other things. I'm doing other things. But it
Starting point is 00:21:43 is this feeling of like, when you graduate college, you still cry. No point in tending. It's like a sorority. So like y'all, this was college for y'all and y'all going out into the world. Y'all got each other forever. Now, Molly also was in an interracial relationship. And now that you're single, could you see that for you? I could.
Starting point is 00:21:59 I could. Like, I want to be happy. And I think when people see interracial, they think like black or white. I'm like, there's so many races out there. You know? Hello. Black and Chinese. Hey.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I don't know if you'll be able to trust a guy, though. Because you're a different person. You're rich now. You got all of these things going on. He's going to have more money than me. Ooh. How are you going to know that, though? He's going to have more money than me.
Starting point is 00:22:20 That's right. How do you know that? Manifested. He's going to have more. Is this Mike? Is this Mike? You see them? He's going to have He's going to have Let me speak English What if on social media It appears that he has a lot of money
Starting point is 00:22:41 But he did a bunch of PPP scams I'm not dealing with social media. He's not a project. He just doesn't have as much money as you. Do you got money? He treats you well. Yes. I'm dead broke. He treats you well. He would not be an option. Would your parents be disappointed if you're not with a Nigerian man?
Starting point is 00:22:58 I want to be happy. No, I'm just asking because I know for, you know. I think they will be. I mean, like, I'm my dad's only daughter, and so my dad wants to have the whole traditional wedding, got the dowry, and I'm like asking because I know for, you know. I think that will be, I mean, like, I'm my dad's only daughter. And so my dad wants to have the whole traditional wedding, got the dowry. And I'm like, I know. So you brought a Caucasian guy home to your dad. There are so many different types of men in this world.
Starting point is 00:23:16 There's so many. Let's just, there's a gamut of them. But I think after they understand, because I already did that. You know, I tried to give them the thing that they wanted and it didn't work out. And I was like, are we good now? Wonderful. Got you. And so I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:23:35 How much do looks matter? They matter a lot. Like looks, physique. Yo, earlier you said it was nothing. You just wanted a man that wasn't a project. All I'm learning from this conversation, Yvonne, is your dreams are your dreams and you shouldn't share with other people because you got dream killers Because no matter what the attack so when the dream
Starting point is 00:24:01 Dear future husband, I hope you like my sense of humor and my snort. Man, Boozled by Jesus is out right now. Yes, and Insecure every Sunday till the day after Christmas, 10 o'clock on HBO and HBO Max. All right, well, we appreciate you for joining us. It's The Breakfast Club, Yvonne Orji. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Put an end to junk sleep.
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Starting point is 00:25:05 endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher.
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Starting point is 00:26:15 that will help us create a more empathetic, accountable, and equitable America. You are all our brothers and sisters, and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, my little creeps. It's your favorite ghost host, Teresa. And guess what? Haunting is back, dropping just in time for spooky season.
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Starting point is 00:27:50 Let's talk about it. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you just join us, we're talking about Amanda Seals, her character in Insecure. No, we're talking about Tiffany Dubois. Yeah, Tiffany. That's Amanda Seals' character in Insecure. The character in Insecure. No, we're talking about Tiffany Dubois. Yeah, Tiffany. That's Amanda Seals' character in Insecure.
Starting point is 00:28:06 The character from Insecure. Correct. She wore AKA colors. Because her character is an AKA. And she did the sound. Yes. Don't you do it. What sound?
Starting point is 00:28:15 Just be quiet. I ain't playing with them people. All right. So we're asking, what is your feelings on it? My whole take on it is like, if we know that they have to get clearance from the aka organization if people in these fraternities and these sororities are upset shouldn't they take it up with the heads of their organization shouldn't they have a conversation with them and say look we don't want our stuff used period fictional or. We don't want nobody wearing our colors.
Starting point is 00:28:46 We don't want nobody wearing our letters. We don't want nobody holding up our shield if they are not part of the organization. But shouldn't they be taking that up with the heads of said organization who give this clearance? Now, let me ask you something else. Do you feel like people just don't like Amanda Seals? And do you feel like if it was another actress,
Starting point is 00:29:02 they wouldn't have went so hard? Probably, but, you know, I'm biased with my good sister. You know what I mean? I saw Issa Rae weighing in on it and everything, too. Yeah, they went out of Issa, too. And I saw a lot of people actually defending Amanda. I saw that, too, which I thought that was hilarious. It was people saying, I don't like Amanda Seals,
Starting point is 00:29:18 but those are the kind of critical thinkers I like. I like people that deal with nuance like that. Hello, who's this? Good morning, everyone. Good morning. How old are you, first of all? I am 31 years old with nuance like that. Hello, who's this? Good morning, everyone. Good morning. How old are you, first of all? I am 31 years old. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:30 So, yes, I am a member of Gamma Theta Omega. That chapter's in South Florida. Shout out to all my sorrows. So to answer the question, first and foremost, I love Insecure. I love all of the actors and actresses in Insecure. But I can kind of see why some members of my organization, so some type of way, I do understand is acting. But normally in movies with Greeks, you normally see them alter the Greek. So they won't actually use the exact Greek letters.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Like in Drumline, they use similar colors. So you was able to determine like, okay, he's probably a Kappa, he's probably a Q. But you didn't see the Omega patch on the uniform. You didn't see Alpha Kappa Alpha patch on the girl's uniform. So the fact that she actually has the patch, it could have been, you know, like you said, Alpha Kappa Alpha could have gave her the right to use it, which I'm sure they probably did. But I know one thing that I was kind of upset about is her using the word soror. She's not a soror. That's a word we use amongst each other.
Starting point is 00:30:33 What's the word? Soror. That's the word. But she's saying to use is a term of that's what they use in their own. I've used. I've said soror. How do I refer to y'all then? You don't refer to us as sorors.
Starting point is 00:30:43 You refer to us as members of Alpha Kappa Alpha. Anybody got time for all that? That's so long. We done said that word a thousand times this morning. Are we in trouble? So I can't say sorority? You can say sorority. You can say sorority.
Starting point is 00:30:54 No, you can say sorority. It's just the word sorority. Like, if Angela Yee was to say to me, oh, hey, sorority. Oh, no, I wouldn't do that. Right. So that's the terminology we use amongst each other. So the fact that you guys are saying on the radio, hey, it's not a big deal. But some people really take it to heart because, you know, they die hard.
Starting point is 00:31:12 So you're saying it was the shield that was really the issue, not necessarily the colors. They could have represented it without actually having that. Shouldn't y'all take this up with the organization? Shouldn't y'all take this up with the people who are giving clearance? Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. But it's just to clear the air because people say, no, it's petty. Yeah, it's petty because you're not a part of that organization.
Starting point is 00:31:33 But if you work hard and fought for your letters, it's not more so petty to you. You know, Alpha Kappa Alpha opened up doors every day. Look at the vice president. Right. Listen, I'm going to be honest with you. I can't tell you what to be mad at. Can't tell you what to be offended by. But it is petty to me.
Starting point is 00:31:48 So you're right. But I'm not a member of the organization. My doc is in a sorority. She said it's the dumbest argument. She said it has to be cleared by the AKA. She said we have to clear even the small indie productions of shows if they ever use us
Starting point is 00:32:01 or use our colors or our badges. It said it has to be cleared. Soror, soror, whatever will be, will be. It has to be cleared. Sarah, Sarah, whatever will be will be. It's a roar. It's a K-Sarah. What is it? It's K-Sarah, K-Sarah. Salute to K-Slay. What'd you say? Shout out to K-Slay. What's up, brother? He's trying to say whatever will be
Starting point is 00:32:16 will be. What is that? What is it saying? K-Sarah, K- K-Sarah, Sarah, whatever will be will be. South Carolina State University, baby. Honorary doctorate. All right. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:32:30 Hi, it's me, Andrew. Hey, good morning. What are your thoughts? So I am a proud member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Soros Incorporated. OK. And me and my licensees were just talking about it. And honestly, I wasn't mad at it.
Starting point is 00:32:45 You know, I thought that it was an honor for them to try to, you know, showcase us in a positive light. I mean, they could have did a good thing, you know? They could have did y'all dirty. I mean, what if they had y'all on the show and they was playing into all them BS stereotypes and all of that stupid stuff? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:01 That's what I'm saying. I could understand if, you know, y'all were portrayed in a negative light. I could see the uproar, but know hello who's this hello good morning my name is tanisha hey good morning tanisha what what sorority are you i am an aka i am part of the first african-american sisterhood in america and i am not bothered by amandaeele portraying an AKA as a character on Insecure. But my question is, did they get permission for the character to be portrayed on the show? That is what this all comes down to.
Starting point is 00:33:36 I don't think anybody should be personally attacking Amanda Steele. You have to get permission to use the license, and I haven't seen the show. I didn't see anything i'm just responding to twitter and listening to you this morning but um we don't know if that was allowed yet so if they didn't get permission from the sorority to use the shield then they are in violation true indeed but um from what i was told it was in a sorority house that they actually got permission to use, right?
Starting point is 00:34:05 She just said it was an AKA's house. I don't know who the AKA is that allowed that to be shot in her home. Even she would have to get permission to give permission. She, that AKA, can't give permission to use the license. That would have had to have come down from corporate. You have to get a pass. You got to check in. If corporate had allowed that, then I'm sure corporate would have told us that in advance to it being used in the show.
Starting point is 00:34:28 I can't believe HBO didn't get that preference. I'm almost positive that they got. I mean, HBO, I'm sure. I feel so too, Charlamagne. I do feel they got permission before actually going ahead and doing that. And they probably got permission in season one. And from what I just read, that this is the final season of the show. So where's all this backlash coming from
Starting point is 00:34:49 so late in the game? I think they just noticed, to be honest with you. Because I remember they even had, I think it was last year, it said Future AKA on a hat, on Tiffany's baby's hat. I think. Oh, okay, right.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Well, see, Future AKA is different from just totally wearing the shield. Got you. But what's the moral of the the story i think the moral of the story is i just want us to understand the difference between uh real life and entertainment because i'm telling you my biggest fear with social media is that we're all becoming the days who cried wolf you know what i mean and if everything causes outrage then nothing is truly outrageous. Like, if you're constantly mad about nothing, then when something really pops up, why should we take any of y'all serious? That's all.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Because every single day, folks are really mad about nothing. Like, enraged about nothing. Yeah, absolutely. This too shall pass. Exactly. By today. By today. Literally. Today. By today. By today. Literally.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Today. By 10, 11 o'clock, it'll be something else. All right, we got more coming up next, so don't move. Happy holidays. Don't go anywhere. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout?
Starting point is 00:36:31 Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run high. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to post run high on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Rams. This job. And I go by the name Q ward and we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We're going to discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people,
Starting point is 00:37:11 but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a black show for non-black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. Exactly. Whether you're Black, Asian, White, Latinx, Indigenous, LGBTQIA+, you name it. If you stand with us, then we stand with you. Let's discuss the stories and conduct the interviews that will help us create a more empathetic, accountable, and equitable America. You are all our brothers and sisters,
Starting point is 00:37:48 and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, my little creeps. It's your favorite ghost host, Teresa. And guess what? Haunting is back, dropping just in time for spooky season. Now, I know you've probably been wandering the mortal plane,
Starting point is 00:38:12 wondering when I'd be back to fill your ears with deliciously unsettling stories. Well, wonder no more, because we've got a ghoulishly good lineup ready for you. Let's just say things get a bit extra. We're talking spirits, demons, and the kind of supernatural chaos that'll make your spooky season complete. You know how much I love this time of year. It's the one time I'm actually on trend. So grab your pumpkin spice, dust off that Ouija board. Just don't call me unless it's urgent.
Starting point is 00:38:41 And tune in for new episodes every week. Remember, the veils are thin, the stories are spooky, and your favorite ghost host is back and badder than ever. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:39:11 We got a special guest in the building. Our guy. Nick Cannon. We here. All right. The streets say Nick, no condom cannon. Is that what they say? The fertilizer. The fertilizer. How many kids do you want, Nick? How many do you want man honestly
Starting point is 00:39:26 somewhere 10 to 12 I wouldn't be mad why so many you got so many too I ain't got I got five and one on the way so I'm gonna have six but I'm stopping it
Starting point is 00:39:35 really I'm stopping are you sure is it the beauty of fatherhood man when you really talk about like the essence of living in as a father too man
Starting point is 00:39:43 I've learned so much just from my children, man. And it's so amazing. And I really just love being around my kids and just that youthful energy. It feels like you get to relive every time. All the time. I love that. And I think because, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:56 I've been through so much in my life, you know, physically, mentally, and spiritually, like the best place that I find is the time that I spend with my kids and the energy. And to get as much of that as possible to pass on, you know, all that I've lived into something else. That's why I do it, man. It's not the number of kids, though. I guess people question the different baby mothers.
Starting point is 00:40:15 That's why people question that. That's a Eurocentric concept. When you think about the ideas of like you're supposed to have this one person for the rest of your life. And really, that's just a classified property when you think about it. I mean, like when you go into that mindset, if we really talk in that talk, like just the idea that a man should have one woman, we shouldn't have anything. I have no ownership over this person. Like if we really talking about how we coexist and how we populate, it's about what exchange
Starting point is 00:40:43 can we create together? So I've never really subscribed to that mentality. You know what I mean? I understand the institution of marriage and stuff, but if we go back to what that was about, that was the classified property. That was because one father gave another man his daughter for land.
Starting point is 00:40:59 So when you really get to that concept, it's like, all right, well, we got to change all of this stuff because I don't want ownership over anybody. I don't have ownership of any of the mothers or like we create families in that sense that we created a beautiful entity so i like i mean i get into it because i don't you know those are the concepts that a lot of people because we're so indoctrinated into it we have to have it this way i don't subscribe to it I actually think women are blessing us. Those women and all women are the ones that open themselves up to say, I would like to allow this man in my world, and I will birth this child.
Starting point is 00:41:37 So it ain't my decision. I'm following suit. I respect that game you running on them ladies. Wow, Nick. Nick, that's what you're spitting? That's the dream you're selling? Wow. suit so women I respect that game you running on them ladies in a relationship with they don't mind that you every woman that I deal with a dough it they know how I feel and it usually is a concept like I don't I'm not going around like I'm pregnant next yeah it's who am I going to impregnate next?
Starting point is 00:42:06 Nah, it's usually scenarios. Like, that's the thing. People say certain things in the public. But when you really look at how a family infrastructure is designed, the woman is the one that always leads and makes the decisions. I agree wholeheartedly. I say that all the time. I say that we had to do some real societal brainwashing
Starting point is 00:42:22 to make people believe that men were the actual leaders but just by nature you can look and see women run everything yeah and the only thing we have brute force that's about it and even now that's changing drastically and we've used our brute force to brainwash society to think that we're the overpowering or the one that controls just because maybe we can physically move something. Women lead. Women lead. In every scenario that I've had, I step back and say, how do you want to do this? Well, I've heard people say that they think you having all these kids
Starting point is 00:42:53 with different women is selfish because you can't possibly give the time to all of the different kids. Time is a man-man construct. If we're talking quantity over quality quality every single one of my kids i'm at every basketball game every martial arts practice i'm and people don't understand how i do it but that's literally my children are my priority it's all about being present and i always say all for all of those people that that say man there's no way he can do it sit back and watch interesting conversation i respect your right to move that way i I'm a married man. I love being married.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I love the idea of being with one woman and building a family, building an empire. And I feel like I want to figure, like, I remember being in that space. And I was with the one woman I've always wanted to be with for my entire, I lived the dream. And I saw it was so much to that. But for me, based off of my trajectory in life I was like there's a little bit more and even like I can even admit like as sometimes there was selfish concepts of like I Feel like my purpose is greater outside of just being in this institution and I
Starting point is 00:43:58 Personally, I mean, you know salute to anybody else who does it but I can't get out here and talk about how much I live My truth walking truth only to truth, and I'm creeping. Like, so every woman that deals with me knows that, well, we know what it is. Does it make you crazy when people, when they judge your relationship online? Like, I remember you just had your recent baby, and you were in the strip club with me,
Starting point is 00:44:18 and people were like, how is he in the strip club when he just had a baby an hour ago? Does that affect you at all? It's a lot of noise watch how i move like is anybody complaining do my children look like they're not well behaved or in in a in a space where they're suffering or any lack emotionally physically whatever it is you think it's a coincidence that um nick cannon is nc and no condom is NC. Do you think that is a coincidence
Starting point is 00:44:46 or is that divine? No, let's... Hey, that's a... I like that. Contrary to popular belief, I do wear a condom. That's a damn lie. Please.
Starting point is 00:44:56 That's a damn lie. What reason do we have to believe that? And don't put out the condom name because nobody's going to use those. Yes, matter of fact, what is the brand name? So it can be discontinued. I keep the gold packs with me. Well you need to stop wearing them. They're a little baggy. Something's slipping out.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Magnums be breaking though. Okay so let's go through this process. Let's talk. Every relationship starts off with a condom yes correct then once you feel like you get the oh we there's trust it's comfortable and then once however that first slippage of either you didn't have it the condom breaks something you was in the shower and it slipped it or whatever and like all right well we done crossed this threshold now so we don't need them no more so you know how it feels now and then because and that's why i say no children are ever accidents because if we make the conscious effort of stepping up and having uh unprotected sex you know the consequences you know you're gonna have you're preparing to have a child correct so anybody that you anybody I ever had unprotected sex with I knew okay this is someone I wouldn't mind creating life with so if I meet somebody and usually I don't like meeting new people but 99.9% gonna be
Starting point is 00:46:17 strapped up in essence I don't drink I don't mind I'm always I don't I'm under the right sober state of mind every time I go into any sexual activity. Some of your kids are close to the same age. So that means you slinging s*** with no condoms to a couple of girls. Now, as someone who has to see the doctor because of my other ailments. Yeah. And I probably got a little careless with that because I'm STD checking every week. Because I get my blood taken every week because of lupus.
Starting point is 00:46:46 So I usually know where I'm at. And I also. What about the young lady, though? Usually know. So in that scenario, she knows what it is. If someone suggests using a condom, of course, that's what we doing. Do you think you might come back and be like, no, I do want to be with one person? When you talk about marriage, you're talking about the business of marriage because marriage is a business.
Starting point is 00:47:06 It's a contract, right? I mean, I think it's a soul tie too. I mean, when you find the right person. That's a covenant. But I'd much rather have someone as a companion for life. I'm not moved by sex. I don't make decisions off of sex. I probably have some of the closest people in my life
Starting point is 00:47:21 when it comes to women that I'm not sexually active with. And I tell her off top top if it's about your vagina We take that off the table from the gate because now I can really get to know you cuz now I'm not Clearly the world knows I have enough access to vaginas So let me really break down where we at with this so I feel like some of my strongest relationships with women Going I mean we in our 40s now, like later on in life, and the s*** ain't even working the way it is. You're going to need that one to hold you down.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Yeah, you're going to be like, who can I go to the movies with? I'd rather focus in that direction and figure out who can I solely have sex with. I'm not moved by it. So again, those constructs don't really I don't think about that. Well, I'll tell you one thing, boy. There's men out here who can't commit to one woman that's listening and saying, that n***a's spitting
Starting point is 00:48:13 this morning. That n***a's spitting. I'll just keep it. It's been a little. I don't disagree with what you're saying because you have the right to live that way. It don't work for me. I got to be.
Starting point is 00:48:26 I love it. I respect and salute anyone who can be in an honorable relationship because it's not easy to do. If it's exhausting, I'm like, dang, I could never do that. That's not for the ad. Just like everybody can't be a priest. So when I see, I believe when two come together and become one, that's powerful. That's blessed by God. You can't do it by yourself. Now, because
Starting point is 00:48:49 of my scenario, every time somebody meets me, they already have a... You've been Nick Cannon for a long time. I'm thinking, who was in the fourth grade? You know what I mean? I don't have a woman in my life that's had my back from day one.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Who rocked with me through the bulls**t. That's the reason you feel that way. Because, like, Charlamagne and I, I've been with my wife since she was 15, I was 16. Right. So she's been there before DJ Envy, before the money. That's amazing, man. But we just were going to the Bodega, getting hour ladies and drinking quarter waters. That's like, that's a blessing from God, man.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Everybody can have, you know, the small percentage of that power of, like, that's some, that's a blessing from God, man. Everybody can have, you know, the small percentage of that power of like, that's some, that's other kind of love. I'm you, you, me. Word, word.
Starting point is 00:49:31 I don't have the I'm you, you, me. Everybody is like, I think I could be what you want. I'm like, I'm cool by myself. All right, we got more with Nick Cannon when we come back.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. You are like the oxygen I need to survive. I'll be honest. I'm loving it. Don't tell me I am so obsessed. I want to drop your heart. I'm a little back on this. I'm a little back on this.
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Starting point is 00:50:23 I'm a little back on this. I'm a little back on this. I'm a little back on this. I'm a little back on this. I'm a little back on this. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Nick Cannon. Do you regret giving Kevin Hart that llama?
Starting point is 00:50:34 No, I was wondering why. You said it won't even stop. You didn't change the number? No. I mean, it's still my phone number. Yo, what's up? We are The Breakfast Club, man. You f***ing s*** number. And then they just give me face. Yo, what's up? We're at a breakfast club, man. You f***ing s*** up.
Starting point is 00:50:46 What was that? I'm calling it. Hello? See, and that's the other thing. It constantly calls. I wonder, because it kept ringing the whole time. The whole, this, and it's just, and it's on silent. That's the other, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:57 So you're giving them that loud noise. You got to protect your peace, Nick. You got to change your number. Yeah, no, so the thing is, obviously, we got the prank wars going on now. I was trying, first, like, me and Kev do this all, like, it just so happened. The phone number's just times 10, though. Yeah, like, because we always prank each other, especially around birthdays and stuff like that. I'll be sending just stupid stuff to his house, and I sent the llama,
Starting point is 00:51:17 and then this motherfucker's going to put my phone number on a billboard, and it will not stop ringing. So I'm like, I'll be answering like, all all right so what should i do to get this back like because the brilliance of this prank is the world got to be a part of it usually our pranks is like private and silly over the top now everyone has my phone number so that's another i'll keep it on because like all right until i get this back i'm gonna be constantly reminded that i gotta deal with picking up this phone would drive me crazy it would drive me crazy you That would drive me crazy. Except when you're trying to sleep or just relax.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Well, obviously, I'll put it in the other room when I'm trying to sleep. But it's like, this is my phone. And that's the thing, because I'm not a slave to these devices like that. So as much as that is an inconvenience, it'd probably be more of an inconvenience if I was one of them dudes that just keep it by the, you know, all the time. So that's over there. But Kevin, I'll f*** you. Y'all shooting Real Husbands now.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Is this part of the show? Nah, it should have been. I think we already had, you know, our storylines and stuff already put together before that jumped off. But we doing some big things with that. Like, me and Kevin's pranks, you guys, and I really need y'all help to figure out what I should do next because all of the s*** I have planned are not as good as this. Like, I was doing dumb shit. I was putting bubble bath in his pool.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Like, I was doing rich, inconvenient shit. F***ing up one of his cars. But like, this was good because this inconvenience in my life and the world got to be a problem. I was like, ah, I gotta rethink all of the s*** that I was gonna do. So, I don't know. Kev, it's coming. it's definitely coming
Starting point is 00:52:45 i'm cooking up and the world gonna see now listen i know i saw your howard stern interview and you know i know we all have to embrace the fact that we're not gonna be here forever right you know what and i want to talk about that too because that was an interview from over five years ago and i was when i say I was fresh out the hospital like seven blood transfusions they you know the over people whispering in the corner talking to my mama you know what I mean like it was one of them times and and that and that was probably the third or fourth time I've been in a scenario like that so when you're in that space you get to you have to come to those moments you sitting up looking at the ceiling in the hospital having weird dreams and all that stuff like okay this is this is what it's like
Starting point is 00:53:28 it's about to go i've i appreciate the time that i've had on this planet a lot and then when you come out of it because of your resilience you're in a different mindset as well and then you get back to this space i feel like there's i call it spiritual portals you know i mean when you're close to that portal you're in you're in a different zen mode of acceptance and i was probably on that conversation you know we'd be talking and joking a lot of it because the mic's cracked open but i was definitely probably in that space of like here's what it is you know i had a good ride uh how do you feel now i'm probably because i'm that was so far removed i definitely appreciate each and every day but i want to get the most out of life but i don't know i was i feel like that was a little dark i was in a darker space because i was truly fresh out of the hospital and it's
Starting point is 00:54:17 funny how because people it's just the media how people started seeing all these stories about me and all these kids and then that interview popped up from five years ago. And they were like, oh, that's what it is. He's just having all these kids. That's irresponsible in itself, too. And that's what somebody said to me. Somebody said that Nick is having all these kids, but he thinks he's not going to be here long. That's selfish.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Nah, that's not. It is. If I set out on some Thanos shit, if I'm like, oh, I'm not going to be here long, so let me impregnate as many people as possible that is that's a very selfish mentality they took two different concepts and kind of put them together and again i'm in therapy twice a week so when i i literally i went to my therapist and you know i'm like do i think am i moving like this is this why is it and to have nothing to do with each other like the my concept on the time that we have in this realm and in experiences that we get to 75 80 85 hopefully plus years that we get to see I want to make the
Starting point is 00:55:16 most out of them but I'm not out here saying oh I want to go get have as many kids and cover as much ground as possible. Nah, that's not it. That was a wild rumor. And the rumor that you got young MA pregnant. That was a wild rumor, too. That was hilarious. You heard that rumor. All of me. I mean, this is what we do. Jokes like, I can't wait for it.
Starting point is 00:55:36 I'm one of the people you've seen wild. And I got the toughest skin in the game. I don't think there's anyone who's ever upset me. I mean, even our relationship over here, we grew to be so close. I'm like, that's hilarious to me. I'm not moved by that, so I actually appreciate every joke, and that's why I created Wild
Starting point is 00:55:53 It Out, right? I've been getting rich off of y'all talking s*** about me for decades at this point. Now, how did you feel when your crew held you down on Wild It Out? Yeah, DC, Young Fly, Pretty V, Chico, Carlo mean they held you down they definitely did and i salute to them and that's when you build a strong unit a strong family that's what you're supposed to do uh staying solid i don't even think it had anything
Starting point is 00:56:15 to do with me they just solid people yeah because there's a lot of people who did you know start tap dancing it got real flimsy out there you know know what I mean? I always say n****s want to be solid, but they ain't solid. You know what I mean? I salute that, you know, I'm surrounded by a team of solid individuals. But I don't knock anybody who make whatever decision they have to make because of their family. Get it. Everybody has different motivations.
Starting point is 00:56:39 So even, you know, the people who were willing and, you know, jumped out there, that's what they did. You still mess with them though? Those people or you just sabotage? I always say all the situations I go through, I think Dr. King talked about it, is like a kaleidoscope of character revelation. You can see people's true colors.
Starting point is 00:56:59 You can step back and you go, and I don't hate you for you being who you are. I'm so glad I know who you are now because as the leader in the situation I'm like do what's best for you I got this let me let me handle this I'm strong enough to stand firm on on my beliefs and my walk in this journey that I got to go through and I know the support is there because the support came from the real ones who called me so I was one of the first people. I mean, we got to figure this out.
Starting point is 00:57:27 We got it. You know what I mean? Like, and even those times where I wasn't even accessible because I had to step out of the bubble for a minute to be like, all right, let me see what this is. Because it was a point where I was public enemy number one to everyone. Yeah, for me, it wasn't the professional stuff. I know you get through that. It was like the personal. I'm like, yo, let's make sure Nick is good.
Starting point is 00:57:46 He's not about to do nothing crazy. It was heavy, too, man, because I got to this space, man. And I've never, like, I value life. But I've been into, I've mentally, physically, and spiritually been in places where, I've been in some very dark places. We all have. To where I'm stuck. I'm in the mud.
Starting point is 00:58:03 And I can't move. So when you get to that space where you feel like it returns, all of those thoughts start coming, and you start thinking, well, if I can't move, is this it? You know what I mean? You start thinking, is life better without me here? Because it's so painful not being able to move. If I just get out the way, and then those dark thoughts,
Starting point is 00:58:21 and it's unfortunate because I had an artist that was signed to me and I watched him struggle so much with those those demons and that mental anguish. And this man had been dealing with the pain of life for so long. And it got to a point where he did end up taking his own life. And I'm like, man man I'm sitting here playing with it and the fact that I'm stuck in this moment right here I wasn't even able to communicate and connect with him during that time and he took his life and that that happened literally like the the second day all of this was going on and now that brought me out of it because I was like okay the bulls**t I'm going through this man was experiencing so much pain. I've never experienced that. And so that's where, you know, even, and I commend you and all the amazing work that you do in the space of mental health,
Starting point is 00:59:13 because we don't talk about it enough. We don't deal with it, because we all experience it. When people are like, oh, you got a mental illness. I'm like, yeah, I do. But you don't? Let's bring all of our pain to the table and discuss it, opposed to pointing fingers at pain. And I've learned through that process, like, yo,
Starting point is 00:59:30 what I'm going through is going to help somebody else. All right, we got more with Nick Cannon. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:59:42 We're still kicking it with Nick Cannon. Charlamagne? What advice would Nick Cannon give to baby right now? Oh, yeah. Because course correction is fine, right? I think that's what we learned from your situation. There's nothing wrong with course correction. First of all, I think not only in the black community,
Starting point is 00:59:56 in our experiences, not only, but definitely just men a lot of times. We have that ego. We believe apologizing is weakness. Men a lot of times we have that ego we believe Apologizing is weak. Mm-hmm when it actually takes great strength to step up to anyone and say I was wrong A lot of times we think apologizing like I'm sorry you feel bad Sorry, someone's feeling no you have to step up and say oh i didn't handle that in a way that i'm not perfect and that shows strength i i'm i know baby and that's a strong brother absolutely and i've been through a lot that with a lot of traumas yeah like just the fact that that man
Starting point is 01:00:37 not only just lost his pops his brother his all the things that he and and still to be had that big smile that he has every day. Knowing everything that comes. You know, I grew up in Charlotte. Part of my life. I know that life. I think it's the attack, though. And that can be part of ego. Like, you know, you do something wrong.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Right. And instead of having a conversation like we're having now, it's the attack. Now you want to cancel me. Now, as a man, I just want to be like, f*** y'all. You can't say that. You know what I mean? And he's a fighter. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:06 We seen his back against the wall. He's swinging. Right. He's swinging just so he can get out of it. So we all have to accept emotion. And there's people that I had some very harsh conversations with initially that I'm, we close now because we got to the, after you chunk them up, up. Then like, OK, this was a misunderstanding. I said and I've I've had to have many of those conversations and I'm going to continue to have those conversations. Yeah, because that's growth to say, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:01:33 That's a self proclamation. You just I'm sorry. That's not to apologize is an action. You know what I mean? And to to actually repent or atone is actually the next level because now you're trying to understand there's education involved with that. There's actually community involved with that. And that's the other thing too, where I challenge all these people who want to cancel somebody. And even specifically in the baby's situation, let's use this as an opportunity for education because that's
Starting point is 01:02:01 what happened in my scenario to where I still stuck true to the truths the minister told me this where he was like I don't ever want falsehood to come out of my mouth so if I'm saying something that is not correct about your community show me where I'm incorrect help me understand because not only is that gonna help me but you're gonna help so many other people who think like me how do you feel about all those festivals pulling them off I feel like that's the wrong thing to do. I don't agree with it. Just because it's like, what statement is that making
Starting point is 01:02:29 other than you're just following? It's groupthink. It's mob rule. Mob rule has never worked in any society to where it's like, oh, well, they did it. We got to do it. It's like, oh, I can't lose this sponsorship. If Pepsi pulled out, Coke got to pull out.
Starting point is 01:02:44 You know what I mean? So then who are you really? Because you can be knocked off. There's a group that can force you to do what you want to do with your brand. And it's unfortunate because when I don't, I think if we had sat down and had individual conversations, this is a moment where we should all gather around a baby and embrace them. Because if we can do that Watch how many mentalities would change in the hip-hop community? First of all you offend and then it's gonna be consequences and that person has to be held accountable
Starting point is 01:03:13 But then you got to get that person the opportunity to learn and you use it as a teachable moment And he is such a he's a great example of that because of all that he's been through. He's an intelligent person There's other people out there, they say, you ain't no helper. Don't save him. But someone like that, you can utilize him. I guarantee you, he'd sit down and talk with Madonna. I guarantee
Starting point is 01:03:35 you he'd sit down and talk with Elton John. And it wouldn't be for the bag. He good. But if this is an opportunity to take his fans on a journey, and a lot of people don't even see it. We see the polarizing conversation. We see with some people being, was he wrong though? Yeah, he was.
Starting point is 01:03:52 But there's certain things about it that we've been trained to think that. Let's unpack that. That's right. Because let's break it down. We know what DaBaby was doing. Like as entertainers, as DJs. Yo, all the ugly people be quiet. I need all the bad bitches in the building to make some noise.
Starting point is 01:04:17 He just took it to a whole nother. But again, it was some call and response. Because if you feeling like you the healthiest and the happiest you could be in the moment, you going to make some noise. But what about the people who not feeling healthy what about the people who do feel ugly you know i mean like damn you just called me out that i was a trigger now i came i paid my good money and now people looking at me funny and we got to understand the power that we have as the people with the microphones. But one of my biggest problems, I think, was, and I hate to single anybody out, right? But I look at Eminem, right?
Starting point is 01:04:49 And Eminem has said, wow. I still say wow. Let me stand over here. I know Nick about to shoot. No. Shots out to Marshall. But then he did the thing with Elton John and everything was good, right?
Starting point is 01:05:00 Right. Then a couple of years later, he went back to it. Three years later, actually. Three years ago. Yeah later actually so my whole three years ago yeah so my mother I didn't see them pull anything from him I never would be say we know the currency of Caucasian this it seemed like they gave him a chance to redeem himself and they did it the right way with my baby just seems like and I think and then I think it's too early because i think they will do it with the baby they will yeah they will he's gonna the baby's not canceled the baby's not over i pray he utilizes this moment and sees where this can actually turn around and be a good moment i
Starting point is 01:05:36 say you know that i quote dr king every freaking day but it's like where evil men plot good men plan because these are conversations that need to occur right yeah it's crazy that we have to and i don't know why but it's always like this it has to be something extreme that gets us to these conversations yeah whether it's about racism whether it's about sexuality whether it's about gender it's always anti-semitism whatever it is always something that happens that get us to have these conversations something extreme has to happen and that i think all that you've been through all that i've been through envy even the stuff that you you go through as well i think we have to be you know i'm not the martyrs or say but we're in a position because we can ignite those
Starting point is 01:06:15 conversations and put them in the right direction i know i'm gonna get canceled again because i'll talk my real and sometimes in a moment i might might say some shit where I didn't. Ah, fuck. I wasn't thinking about it. I was just trying to be funny. Ah, fuck. I was talking about this, but it was that. I get canceled once a year. Charlamagne gets canceled about three times a year.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Yeah. I say something. Yeah, I say something every week. And at this point, it's like, all right, the interrogators are out there. And I'm going to sit back. I ain't going to let you shake me. But let's talk about it. You know what I've learned to do, though?
Starting point is 01:06:46 I think I used to make a lot of definitive statements. Now I just ask the questions. Questions. Because I really do want to know. So I'm asking questions now instead of saying, this is what I think. It's like, well, what if such as I like to ask questions? Yeah, that's all I got. Because then I'm opening up the conversation.
Starting point is 01:06:58 I say I have none of the answers and all the questions. All right, we got more with Nick Cannon when we come back. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Nick Cannon when we come back. Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Starting point is 01:07:10 We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Nick Cannon. Versus. Huh. Mariah Carey. Who would you love to see Mariah Carey go against? First of all, I thought you were about to ask Nick if he's going to do a versus. I'm like, stop. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Why you always being on there, man? He got my breakfast, man. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you.
Starting point is 01:07:23 He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you.
Starting point is 01:07:24 He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you. He got you He hates my music. He hates my music. He's throwing you all in trouble. I will always be an interrogator about your music. Yeah, you got definitely. You know what? And I won't get to that.
Starting point is 01:07:30 You know the thing about my music is like, it's funny to me because rhyming words ain't hard. We love Biggie because of the person he was. We love Pac because of the person he was. We love Rakim because of the person he was. The word rhyme scheme, we see anybody get like, how y'all. We love Rakim because of the person he was. The word rhyme scheme, that's, we see anybody get like how y'all be hating on Rakim. You don't know Nick, it's been kind of hard for you. Charlamagne!
Starting point is 01:07:54 I've seen you try to rap! Like it's not hard to rhyme words. I never wanted to be the greatest rapper ever because I do so much. I can play seven instruments. I'm a musician. So hip-hop, I salute everybody who can do it. I'm a poet. Now, to be a great artist, now we want to talk about that. I'm here to be the best artist I can be. And I think when it's all setting down, when I'm going,
Starting point is 01:08:20 oh, that could get down a little bit. That actually was talented. Not for music. Everything else. I mean, everything. That actually was talented. Not for music. Everything else. I mean, everything. When I say everything else, everything else. Okay, okay. You can go.
Starting point is 01:08:30 No, hold up. Let's talk this real quick. Are we saying, because I'll give you one or the other. Are we saying rap or music? I've only heard you rap. What was the other one? Okay, say less. You never seen me play guitar?
Starting point is 01:08:44 Oh, no, no. You talk about, I saw the piece you did with, oh, what was the sister's name? never you never seen me play guitar oh no no you talk about i saw the piece you did with um oh what was the sister name kiera sheared kiera sheared that was dope i've been i grew up in a church i can pick up any instrument in a church and play he's judging you off a gigolo gigolo wildfire gigolo okay i like gigolo i don't care how hard you say the words you ain't gonna make that song no more more fire. You didn't like Can I Live, me and Anthony Hamilton? Me and Kanye produced it? I don't even remember that record. I remember Jay-Z, Can I Live.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Can I? I do. Back to Mariah Carey, man. Versus. Versus. He's going to hate on me forever, and I love it because it's my friend. I need this challenge. Just in the music.
Starting point is 01:09:19 I support Nick in everything else he does. So Wild N' Out ain't music? Wild N' Out's fire. I produce every beat on that show every song you've heard i wrote it even when they be doing like the the songs like the uh where do you think the beat came from every song every music everything you hear i make on the spot sometimes okay tell me about it everything you ever see every anything sonically that's ever come out of wine, I've made myself.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Wow. Okay. I didn't know. What do you say now? What do you say now? I support him in everything he does except for his rap career. I love Wild N' Out. Who doesn't love Wild N' Out?
Starting point is 01:09:59 Wild N' Out is a classic staple in our culture. Dizzy Van Winkle. And every time you came on Wild N' Out, I bodied you in the freestyle. Let's go to Versus. No, I had a good ball one time. You did have the one. Yeah, what's up about the one? My kids didn't look like me or some shit like that.
Starting point is 01:10:12 No, no, it was, oh, you the bird man of TV, and you need to pay all your little wheezes. Oh, yeah, that was a bad one. Who wrote that? Who wrote that for you? Me, off the top. That's a lie. Off the top. So back to Versus.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Yes, yes, yes. Versus. Who could go against Mariah? I don't think any. They were saying Mariah. Off the top. So back to Mariah Carey versus. Who could go against Mariah? I don't think any They were saying Mariah. It's unfortunate and we've opened up this can, but the only person who has the level of talent
Starting point is 01:10:35 and this would have never happened. The level of talent and hits. Whitney Houston? No, because Mariah writes. That's why people got to understand Mariah's a musician. I'm not impressed by people who could perform songs that it took 30 people to make with you. Mmm That's a lot of people though. That's gonna be Michael Jackson. They can't establish somebody but no for that's Michael Jackson. That's Beyonce Exactly. That's Rihanna The greatest I'm tell you the greatest are the ones who can you could put somebody in a room by they damn self may come
Starting point is 01:11:03 Out with a hit that's like the Steve shots out to Stevie Wonder the greatest like no one could ever do a versus with him and I said That's literally he was one. He was one of the real ones that called me That's like close friends and he and I have this conversation. There's a different level. I'm like, who is this for? Stevie B or you? He's looking at the phone when he's saying something. He's so funny. He's like, yo, I'm driving. I got to go. I can't be driving and talking about the same time.
Starting point is 01:11:42 No, but I'm impressed by artists like that. So only person in this day and age that could have gone against Mariah Carey because she writes all of her songs, she actually produces all of her songs, she puts the songs together and performs them at a high level are Kelly. But that ain't going to happen. I told you it's not going to happen. That ain't going to happen. Because of his personal endeavors and all the things. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:12:03 So for this era? What do you mean? Because I'm thinking Prince based on what you said. I'm not here, bro. Because of his personal endeavors and all the things. What do you mean? So for this era? What do you mean? Because I'm thinking Prince, based on what you said. I'm not here, bro. Yeah, Prince. But even because people talk about Mariah and Janet, which on that level of diva, I would love to see it.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Mariah and Janet would be fire. But if we're just talking about skill level, like when we saw, you know, how we got excited for Dipset and the Lox, like if we're talking about matching talents, because Mariah is a writer and has written more hits than anybody, the only other person I can think of that has that ability that can sit down and make music on the spot was R. Kelly. She got help in some of her songs. I didn't know Mariah did all that. JD, what did JD do then? Yeah, that producer. But again, I've actually watched Mariah write out lyrics and say, I'm going to go put this to something. And then when you can perform it at
Starting point is 01:12:57 a six octave level, you know what I mean? And that's what I watched R Kelly do the same thing. His was on some like savant type though though, like where he would literally be. And then five minutes later, it's a whole ass hit song. Obviously, he had so many other problems and issues and pain in his life that we will no longer get to see him do that anymore. But we still got to acknowledge the fact that the man was gifted. He was gifted. You can have that conversation. I don't think it's that wrong to have that conversation.
Starting point is 01:13:28 But at that level, when you think about the level of hits that he pinned and put together, other than Jiggalo, because I don't think it was a hit. I mean, it was a hit. You didn't f*** with it. Let's play it. Let's play it right now. You want to play Jiggalo? I had bars in it. I was like, call me the Scarecrow. I'm f*** with it. Let's play it. Let's play it right now. You want to play Jiggle? I have bars in it.
Starting point is 01:13:45 I was like, call me the Scarecrow. I'm looking for some brain. That's a bar. Nick, we appreciate you for joining us. Let's go. Let's play Jiggle. No, you're not. Now I don't even want to hear it.
Starting point is 01:13:54 No, we don't play it. No, we don't play it. No, I'm good. No, I'm fine. I'm fine. It was 20 years ago. No, but Nick, no, for real, salute to Nick. You got to give Nick his flowers, man.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Absolutely. We don't celebrate Nick enough in our culture. For everything that Nick does for black people, he keeps black people employed. He's put out a lot of black talent out here in this culture over the years. That's right. This isn't nothing new. We're just getting started.
Starting point is 01:14:14 And I know you're just getting started. So we got to salute Nick Cannon. We do not give Nick Cannon his flowers enough, man. We really don't. I appreciate y'all, man. So let's do it. Nick Cannon, don't give me no flowers. Plant some seeds.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Ooh. Bars. Bars. Bars. Bars. So let's do it. Nick Cannon. Don't give me no flowers. Plant some seeds. Ooh. Bars. Bars. Bars. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same.
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Starting point is 01:16:46 It's your favorite ghost host, Teresa. And guess what? Haunting is back, dropping just in time for spooky season. Now I know you've probably been wandering the mortal plane, wondering when I'd be back to fill your ears with deliciously unsettling stories. Well, wonder no more, because we've got a ghoulishly good lineup ready for you. Let's just say things get a bit extra. We're talking spirits, demons, and the kind of supernatural chaos that'll make your spooky season complete. You know how much I love this time of
Starting point is 01:17:17 year. It's the one time I'm actually on trend. So grab your pumpkin spice, dust off that Ouija board, just don't call me unless it's urgent and tune in for new episodes every week remember the veils are thin the stories are spooky and your favorite ghost host is back and badder than ever listen to haunting on the iheart radio Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's time for Donkey of the Day. Donkey of the Day, I'm a Democrat, so being Donkey of the Day is a little bit of a mixed one.
Starting point is 01:17:57 So like a donkey. Keyhawk. Donkey of the Day. The practice club, bitches. Now, I've been called a lot in my 23 years but donkey of the day is a new one yes donkey of the day goes to a home inspector in Michigan
Starting point is 01:18:11 named Kevin Wayne Van Loven what a name Van Loven if this guy doesn't own a 1992 Ford Econoline I would be disappointed okay at least a 1997 Plymouth Voyager, maybe a Volkswagen Eurovan, maybe. Moral of the story is he should drive nothing but vans.
Starting point is 01:18:32 When your last name is Van Loving, you only have one vehicle of choice, and the license plate of that vehicle has to say Van Loving. Sneakers too! Okay, when your last name is Van Loving, you can only wear Vans. The old school black and white ones with the jazz stripes. Now, some would say that if you drive a Van and wear Vans, that's the child sex offender starter kit. I'm just saying, if you profile pedophiles, this kind of fits the description. But maybe I'm making all this up. This is probably a personal bias that I'm projecting.
Starting point is 01:19:01 So never mind me. But back to Mr. Van Lovin. Now, Mr. Van Loven is a home inspector and he was inspecting the home of a 22 year old woman in Oxford township. He was inspecting the property before a sale. Well, something in that house turned Kevin Van Loven on. I don't know what type of aphrodisiac he used before he inspected that house. Maybe he ate some chocolate, maybe some figs, some oysters, asparagus maybe. Something increased his libido, his sexual function. Something got him so hot and bothered in that house
Starting point is 01:19:36 that he had to pleasure himself right then and there. Let's go to WJBK Fox 2 Detroit for the report, please. Before selling, an Oxford Township couple let this man into their home on Gill Street for a routine inspection. They left, never suspecting the 59-year-old man would allegedly fulfill his sexual urges with their child's Elmo doll. A disturbing sexual act revealed when movement in the child's room triggered the nursery camera. The image shows when Kevin Van Leuven picked up the Tickle Me Elmo doll. The homeowner shocked when she was alerted on her cell phone. THE CHILD'S ROOM TRIGGERED THE NURSERY CAMERA. THE IMAGE SHOWS WHEN KEVIN VAN LOOVEN PICKED UP THE TICKLE MIAMO DOLL. THE HOMEOWNER SHOCKED WHEN SHE
Starting point is 01:20:08 WAS ALERTED ON HER CELL PHONE. AFTER HITTING RECORD, SHE IMMEDIATELY CONTACTED THE OAKLAND COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. OUR DEPUTIES CONFRONTED HIM AND INITIALLY HE DENIED IT AND THEN THEY TOLD HIM IT WAS ON
Starting point is 01:20:19 VIDEO AND THEN HE APOLOGIZED. HE'S BEEN CHARGED WITH AGGRAVATED INDECENT EXPOSURE AND A MISDEMEANOR CHARGE OF MALICIOUS DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY. BUT PERHAPS WHAT'S EVEN and then he apologized. He's been charged with aggravated indecent exposure and a misdemeanor charge of malicious destruction of property. But perhaps what's even more disgusting, after abusing the doll, Van Leuven put it back. I never thought I would find someone who loves Elmo more than Rashawn Casey, a.k.a. DJ Envy. I have so many questions.
Starting point is 01:20:45 I know people say we shouldn't kink shame. We shouldn't shame people for what they are into sexually, but that's BS. Okay, that's from 2021. I've been woke too long and I need some sleep because I'm not thinking straight when I'm sleepy rhetoric. Okay, if I can't shame Kevin Van Loven for this, then the word shame needs to be abolished altogether. Now, can I try to understand Kevin Van Loven? Sure. Let's unpack this.
Starting point is 01:21:07 How many times has Kevin Wayne Van Loven sat his ass in front of the TV and masturbated to Sesame Street? I wonder. I also wonder if he sat down with a therapist or psychiatrist, could he or she bring this back to something that happened in his childhood? I mean, it's Elmo, as in tickle me, Elmo, right?
Starting point is 01:21:24 And tickling equals flirting i read somewhere and by somewhere i mean google that from adolescence on you're roughly seven times more likely to be tickled by somebody at the opposite sex and the most common reason to tickle is to show affection so maybe when he was a baby as in a young lad he got tickled a lot and the thought of tickling turns him on i don't know okay so when you're a creature lot and the thought of tickling turns him on I don't know okay so when you're a creature that is the symbol of tickling maybe when you see that you get turned on when you see that symbol of tickling that is now Elmo a lot of people don't like tickling but tickling is a physical expression of
Starting point is 01:21:58 love so maybe just maybe he saw Elmo and he wanted to show his love I some people do tickle fights as foreplay. People stage tickle fights in the bedroom. Nothing I'm saying makes sense, does it? Of course not, okay? God may not make mistakes, but humans do. But I hear stories like Kevin Van Loven, and I know they say don't question God,
Starting point is 01:22:17 but sometimes you have to recognize that God didn't give you the same brains he gave everybody else. Okay. There was certain periods in time that God was just creating anybody and anything. All right. Genesis one 26 says God created man in his image according to his likeness, right? Well, humans, sometimes we just like to try things, throw it against the wall to see what sticks. I think God did that when he was creating some humans, some humans he just created with his eyes closed. Kevin Van Loven might have been one of them. OK, God made him and forgot about him.
Starting point is 01:22:48 So then Mr. Van Loven all these years has been left to his own devices, wandering around life aimlessly by himself without God's guidance, only to end up on Sesame Street masturbating next to Oscar the Grounds trash can while while Elmo just minding his business performing Elmo's song. Hit that tune for me, Dramos. This is the song. Come on now. Elmo's song. Mm. Mm.
Starting point is 01:23:12 La, la, la, la. La, la, la, la. Elmo's song. Kevin Van Loving is somewhere hot and bothered right now. La, la, la, la. Oh. To think he wrote this alone. Oh.
Starting point is 01:23:21 La, la, la. That's what does it for Kevin Van Loving. Catchy. Oh. He loves to sing. Okay, enough, enough. along. Oh. La, la, la. That's what does it for Kevin Van Loven. Catchy. Oh. He loves to see me. Okay, enough, enough. Enough. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Kevin Van Loven is reinforcing all the pedophile stereotypes. I told you driving a van and wearing vans is the sex offender starter kit. You know how many people Chris Hansen caught who fit that profile? And this guy, Kevin Van Loven. Okay, you got caught sexually assaulting an elmo doll in a nursery that sounds pretty pedophile to me okay elmo is three and a half years old do you know that three and a half years old you sick bastard this is what kevin van loving hears when drunk in love plays. I'm swerving on that. Swerving, swerving on that.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Big body been serving all this. Swerving, surfing all in this good, good. Let Remy Ma give Kevin Van Loving the biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw, hee-haw. You stupid mother f***er. You dumb. Do it, Envy. Oh, you don't want to do the voice today, huh?
Starting point is 01:24:23 You don't want to play Elmo today, do you? I was going to say, well, I'm just curious. You want to play a game? You want to play a game? Only if you do the voice. Ask me in the voice. You want to play a game? Yes, I do.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Guess what? Race it! Hey! Kevin Van Loven, Michigan, home inspector, walked into a nursery in a home, saw a Tickle Me Elmo doll, and had his way sexually with it. Guess what race he is. Angelie, start with you.
Starting point is 01:24:55 I'll say Caucasian. Okay. What makes you say this with such confidence? I don't know. It's just what I want it to be. Okay. Rashawn, I need you to answer in the voice the whole time, okay? Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Kevin Van Loven. Yes. From Michigan. Home inspector. You're very familiar with home inspectors, right? He was in a home inspecting. He was in a nursery. Saw an Elmo doll.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Had his way with the Elmo doll sexually. Guess what race he is! Let me check! White! What the hell did you bend over like that for? What the hell were you checking? Looked like you wanted somebody to check you. What the hell's wrong with you?
Starting point is 01:25:44 I don't know, man you i don't know man i don't know you both were right this is absolutely a colonizer okay this is the highest levels of caucasianery okay the mayonnaise is very heavy in this story all right all right all right thank you for that you gotta register as a sex offender when you do stuff like this if you're ke van Levin. I'll be my emmy Alright anyway, we got more coming up next so don't move happy holidays. Don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning the Breakfast Club holidays don't go anywhere it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club need relationship advice need personal advice just need real advice call up now for ask ye morning everybody it's dj envy angela ye charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. It's time for Ask Yee.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Hello, who's this? Tessie. Yes. Okay, I was trying to see if my boyfriend seen his ex-girlfriend. Is it okay to give her a hug in front of me and not acknowledge me or acknowledge the situation that made me mad? So what happened with his ex-girlfriend that you in particular don't like her? It's not that I don't like her because I don't know her.
Starting point is 01:27:05 It's just a simple fact that she didn't acknowledge me. She just ran up straight to him and seen us together and gave him a hug. And he gave her a hug back and still didn't acknowledge me. So I just walked away. And he thought that it was okay. He said if I seen a boy, then it would be okay to hug him. I think that it's not the hug. I think it's also the fact that there was no acknowledgement.
Starting point is 01:27:26 She didn't acknowledge you. And then he didn't say, and this is my girlfriend, Tessie. Yeah. And that's how you have to let him know. That's what's not okay. I think you can't control somebody giving your boyfriend a hug.
Starting point is 01:27:36 Obviously like this, what are you supposed to do about that? You can't get mad at him for that. But what you can hold him responsible for is okay. You hugged her back and then you didn't even say, this is my girlfriend. And you gotta be... No, they just started a conversation.
Starting point is 01:27:48 I'm sorry. Yeah, did you insert yourself in like, hey, how you doing? I'm his girlfriend. No, I just looked at her like she was crazy and they just kept talking, so I walked away. Yeah, I think I, well...
Starting point is 01:27:58 But that is on him. And the truth is, you can't even be mad at her for that. That's on him. She did that. He should have never allowed that to happen. And the sad part is he don't understand nothing that hurts me. I'm his real, real relationship.
Starting point is 01:28:13 So everything I tell him that I don't like, he think it's okay. He think it was meant to be. I just don't get it. And the best way for you to explain it to him is not that he's doing these things purposefully to hurt you, but they do. And so you have to tell him, this is how this makes me feel when you do things like this. When that happened, I felt like I wasn't respected. And I just want to feel respected. And you have to be able to explain that to him in terms of it's not factual.
Starting point is 01:28:41 It's just an emotional thing, how you feel. And I'm sure that in his head, he's thinking it's no big deal. And you also know you would never do that to him. Whether or not he said he's okay with it, that's not how you move. That is exactly it. And I told him that and I cried at him and pleased at him. He just looked at me like I'm crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:58 No, that's not cool at all. And you should play this for him. But it's really just about him, you know, being proud of you. Also not letting her feel like she could get away with things like that because that's the type of thing she go home and tell her friends oh you know i did this i did that i gave him a hug we ain't even not even females talk like that and he just don't get it he think it's okay he think it's okay to have female friends that he didn't in the past on his facebook page and stuff like that and you know how females is
Starting point is 01:29:24 nasty so they put anything on facebook for the people stuff like that. And you know how females is nasty. So they put anything on Facebook for the people to look at. And he just think all of that is okay. Yeah, respect the relationship. Don't act like you out here single. That's crazy. I wish you could hear this. How can he hear this?
Starting point is 01:29:37 You know what? We going to... I want you to f***ing call him. I'm sorry if I'm on the radio. This is terrible. You know what? We can't call him. You can't stop Kirsten. Call him right now.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Call him on three. Go ahead. OK, give me one minute. Hello. We are not available now. Please leave your name and phone number after the beep. Leave a message. We will return your call.
Starting point is 01:30:04 You know, we're on the phone right now with your woman who I would hope that you love and she loves you too. And we want you to be more respectful of how she feels in certain situations and understand and represent for your woman. We don't need you talking to these girls that could come in between your relationship. You gave your
Starting point is 01:30:20 ex a hug. Y'all didn't acknowledge your girlfriend standing right there. You knew she was uncomfortable. She walked away. You stayed and had a conversation and you cannot do things like that because she done felt like she had too much power. So you cannot let the ex or any of these other women feel like they're more important to you than your woman or her feelings. And if I ask you to delete something on Facebook that I'm not comfortable with, she should understand that. Yeah. And look, this is all about her wanting to be in this relationship and caring about you and wanting to make things work. You should
Starting point is 01:30:47 never let outside people interfere with what you guys have going on. If something makes her uncomfortable and it's reasonable and it's not that big a deal, I would assume deleting a comment off Facebook is not a big deal. I would assume that you would be able to let these women know I have a relationship, I'm happy, and she's
Starting point is 01:31:03 not comfortable with that. That's a grown and mature man thing to do. Yeah, bro. Just take it off. Make your wifey happy, man. Take it off. What's the problem, man? You're acting like a little girl. Take it off. That's right, and you can't cheat on your woman during a pandemic, bro. You fool around and get COVID and chlamydia from a woman during this time, and we call that...
Starting point is 01:31:20 He's not a cheater. He's not a cheater. He's an awesome man. He's not a cheater. It's just a simple fact that he don't acknowledge what's wrong. So if I tell him that something is wrong, he takes that and he's wrong with it. And he says, well, it's not like it is. It's not how you make it seem. And it is. If you're looking at somebody's mama and somebody reach out to me and try to tell me about my man that he used to have sex with or used to.
Starting point is 01:31:44 Why you want to leak them off your Facebook page? So it's okay for people to reach out to me. Damn, your man is sleeping with people's mama? He a real mother f***er. No, he's not sleeping with the mama. He's sleeping with the mama's daughter, but they both reach out to me. Got you, got you, got you.
Starting point is 01:32:02 But that was in the past. Protect your woman. Like he's doing it now. And the last thing I want to say is don't act stupid too. Wow, his phone didn't hang up yet. Y'all said all that
Starting point is 01:32:13 on his answer machine? That's pretty dope. Yes, that's it. And I hope he checks his voicemail. And you still got the voicemail going? Yes. Hey man, you got to stop cheating. You're going to get chlamydia
Starting point is 01:32:22 and COVID, bro. And don't you ever send us a voicemail again and we call that hovid you have to get two vaccines my goodness all right thank you guys so much good luck have a blessed day one for the clap and one for the covid Wow. See you guys later. Don't delete. I wanted him to hear all of that, Eddie. I'm not deleting nothing. Don't delete nothing.
Starting point is 01:32:50 You sent emergency send. He here and there. He going to sleep here and there. Send it with importance. Press the button that makes it important. Send it. You got to listen to it. All right.
Starting point is 01:33:00 Ask Eannie, 805-851-051. If you need relationship advice, hit him up at Breakfast Club. We'll put it. Get some real advice with Angela Yee. It's Ask Yee. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Starting point is 01:33:17 We are The Breakfast Club. We're in the middle of Ask Yee. Hello, who's this? This is Samson, man. What's your question for you? What's up? You sound sad. All right, so I just found out that my bitch is my bad.
Starting point is 01:33:31 I just found out that my girl is cheating on me with my older brother. Wow. So that's still your girl? No, hell no. Hell no. You just said my girl. You know what I mean. You know what I mean.
Starting point is 01:33:42 You got to get used to saying my ex. Yeah, you're right. You're right. But this You know what I mean. You got to get used to saying my ex. Yeah, you're right. You're right. But this is my question, though. I'm not sure whether if I should, like, try to sit my brother down and talk to him or if I should just beat his ass, you know? I mean, who do you think would win? Oh, I'll f*** that b***h up. Because it'll be a problem if you go to beat him.
Starting point is 01:34:00 And then not only did he do that, but he also beat you up. Nah, hell nah. I'll be f'll be out that boy all right well i would not recommend beating your brother up but i would definitely have a sit down how do you think this conversation would either go like exactly how do you how do you even know this is true oh i saw it on your phone okay so you knew she was cheating on you and what did the messages say i don't even want to repeat we want to know what did it say i just want to make sure we can verify this it was just basically her like you
Starting point is 01:34:32 know trying to be sneaky and you know trying to make sure i didn't stop cursing jesus christ you can't say all those words on the radio hey my fault charlamagne my fault but you know i pretty much caught it red-handed. But what was she saying? What was being said in these messages? We want to see if this is really red-handed, if you're overreacting. Oh, no, it was being nasty through the phone, Angela. It was being nasty.
Starting point is 01:34:55 Okay. So what did you say to her? I pretty much told her, like, you know, how you going to do this to me? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, my brother, out of all people, my brother, you know? And what did she say? Your brother probably, so your brother knows you know already. He has to know. There's no way he doesn't know, you know what I'm saying? Like my brother, out of all people, my brother, you know? And what did she say? Your brother probably, so your brother knows,
Starting point is 01:35:06 you know, already. He has to know. There's no way he doesn't know. You know what I'm saying? I just haven't told him yet. Right. So this whole time,
Starting point is 01:35:13 cause you definitely told him that you saw the messages and gave him a heads up. So you broke up with her, hopefully, cause you still keep calling her your girlfriend and you still haven't had a situation, a talk with your older brother. You got to talk to him.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Maybe don't do it in person. Yeah, no, I'm going to have to. There's no way. You can't talk about stuff like this through a text message. I didn't say text. You could call him. No, I don't know. I'm probably going to have to see him face to face.
Starting point is 01:35:37 I don't know. I think we're just going to have to fight. Yeah, I mean, listen, no matter what, that's always going to be your brother. Is he known for doing stuff like this? No, that's the thing. That's what really, like, blows my mind. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:35:49 Just so you know, this happened in the Jackson family. Woo-hoo. Was it Randy Jackson and Jermaine Jackson? I don't know. We got to look at this up. Hold on. Oh, man. Yes, Jermaine Jackson stole Randy Jackson's girlfriend and then married her or something like that.
Starting point is 01:36:06 What if they get married? Nah, I don't know. I mean, at this point, I don't really care about it no more. I'm more concerned that it's my brother that did this. Yeah, your relationship with your brother. Is he older than you? It seems like he's older, yes. Yeah, it's my older brother.
Starting point is 01:36:22 I was just going to say it's kind of his fault you keep referring to a man as your big brother and you the little brother. That's my older brother. I was going to say it's kind of his fault you keep referring to a man as your big brother. And you the little brother. She want the bigger brother. Step your penis game up, sir. Oh, Charlamagne, I know you's not trying to come at me right now. Whatever, little brother. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:36:39 I think you need to break your older brother. He's already mad. All right. We's already mad. All right. We wish you luck, but I would recommend that you just kind of maybe not really mess with your brother right now
Starting point is 01:36:53 until you can get in a better space yourself. Yeah. Yeah, probably. All right. You're going to beat his ass. Good luck. Tell big brother
Starting point is 01:37:03 the street said hello. Do your pushups. Oh, you Charlamagne. Alright, little brother. Don't threaten Charlamagne with a good time. We got more coming up next, so don't move. Happy holidays. Don't go anywhere.
Starting point is 01:37:20 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's that time again! Ask Charlamagne and DJ Envy anything. Pick it up, pick it up, pick it up. It's time to ask CNE. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. It's time for Ask CNE.
Starting point is 01:37:44 You can ask us anything you want. 800-585-1051. Hello, who's this? Hi, my name is Ashley. Ashley, what's your question for C&E? Hey, Ashley. How you doing, Ashley? All right.
Starting point is 01:37:53 I'm good. I'm good. All right, so I'm 29. I've been separated for three years, married for five, and I recently Found out that My Ex Or my Whatever
Starting point is 01:38:08 My ex-husband That he Is bisexual Okay He likes men and women Right So With that being said
Starting point is 01:38:17 His behavior has changed And Like we kind of don't know How to deal with each other It's more or less like He's acting like a real B Like now I gotta deal With a female And before It was a whole different person Well listen I don't know how to deal with each other. It's more or less like he's acting like a real D. Like, now I gotta deal with a female, and before
Starting point is 01:38:25 it was a whole different person. Well, listen, Tam, I don't like your attitude about this, and I'm gonna tell you why. You know how that d*** makes people act, right? You done, you done, you done started acting funny because you was getting some good D, okay? So you should be able to relate to that
Starting point is 01:38:42 man even more now. That shouldn't drive y'all apart. Oh, God. Listen. So my question is, how do I get him to be a little bit more easy? How do I deal with him in terms of, like, how do I be patient? Because I don't know. I don't follow women. Like, I don't know how to.
Starting point is 01:38:59 He's not a woman. He's a man. You got to deal with him the same way. Exactly. He's just a dogmatized person. Stop looking at it from a gender perspective and just think from the perspective of being d***matized. You've been there. You can relate.
Starting point is 01:39:11 You need to look that man in his eyes and say, look, man, I understand how that good D can get you, but you acting funny with me, son. Good luck, though. Good luck. I don't understand why this is such a complicated conversation. Now y'all got more in common. You like penis, he likes penis. It's different when you were really dealing with someone and now they've changed. Or maybe you have changed.
Starting point is 01:39:35 Maybe you feel a way now because you understand that he's just not giving D to you. Have you ever been bisexual? You ever been with a woman? Of course. I am, actually, from the beginning. Oh, my God! What the hell? So y'all both share the best of both worlds.
Starting point is 01:39:48 He like penis and poom-poom. You can't be mad at him. You like penis and poom-poom. He might feel the same way. You hating, yo. You hating because he getting more D than you nowadays. You all hate it. You sound like a hater.
Starting point is 01:39:57 You a hater, yo. You a hater. You a hater. I'm going to be honest with you. Goodness gracious. Ask C&E. 800-585-1051. If you a hater, we'll take your calls, too.
Starting point is 01:40:06 Hello, who's this? Hi. I said my name is Anonymous. Hey, Anonymous. What's your question for C&E? I don't get it. We're on the radio. Nobody can see you, but whatever.
Starting point is 01:40:14 You can give a fake name. I know, but my name is just so unique. You know, I just can't do it. You think Beyonce is a unique name? Go ahead. What's your question, mama? I'm glad I got y'all to today. It's a good question. What's up?
Starting point is 01:40:25 Okay, so I've been with my boyfriend for, we're in our 10th year right now. 10 years. Congratulations. Oh, you know, thanks. We had three kids together. Okay. And when we first started dating, we both established that we didn't want to get married. It was just like, I think we were
Starting point is 01:40:41 both young and it was, hey, we just date and let's have fun. We didn't see that we'd be together 10 years. So now my values have changed and I want to get married. And he's in that. Why fix something that. Yeah. And, but I'm looking at it more on a, you know, showing your kids that you value your relationship and legal standpoints too, is if anything ever happens to me or him,
Starting point is 01:41:08 we can't go in a room. We're not allowed there. We have no say so. But we know what's best for each other. I agree. So the thing is. But he came in this relationship not thinking that he didn't want to get married and you knew that and you didn't want to get married.
Starting point is 01:41:22 You changed up. He ain't change up. You sound just like my best friend. He a dude too. But the thing is, your values change. That's true. When your kids start to ask you. Why y'all don't got the same last name?
Starting point is 01:41:32 Exactly. Happened to me. Exactly. So we went looking for houses and my daughter said, Mommy, in the next house we go in, you can't come in because you're not a blank. She said their last name. Wow. It hurt my heart.
Starting point is 01:41:46 Yeah, but she was only like three or four. Did you have that conversation with him? He still doesn't want to get married. Yes, but the thing is, I don't want to continue to push because I don't want him to feel obligated. I don't want a man to marry me out of obligation. I want him to marry me because he feels like we have the same values.
Starting point is 01:42:02 Right, but you already went into this relationship and this union thinking that you didn't want to get married, he didn't want to get married, he was cool with that. What's the reason he doesn't want to get married? He's just saying, like, what does a piece of paper do for us? We know that we're both for each other and we're going to be together forever. He's on the black man don't cheat, he does not cheat.
Starting point is 01:42:22 I know this. But the thing is, it's just like for him, it's like, why? I'm going to tell you something. I think, you know, I'm sure he loves you. I'm sure he wants to be with you for the rest of his life. But yeah, that's the thing. When your kids come to you and your kids say, why y'all don't have the same last name? Like, you know, I do believe that marriage is just a piece of paper and y'all already married because y'all are tied at the soul. Correct. But I do like the fact,
Starting point is 01:42:43 I do like the, I like making it official. I think he should make it official. But, you know, I can't tell him to marry you. I can only tell him to find somebody to share his life experiences with. But he already got that. He does. He tells me that all the time. He's like, hey, I want to be with you.
Starting point is 01:42:58 You're the person I want. I don't want to be with anybody else. But he just doesn't see the reason why, hey, we've been together this long. It's been working. You should tell him the reason is because you want to. That's it. You want to. And your kids.
Starting point is 01:43:12 Your kids need that as well. I'm all about making my woman happy. Happy wife, happy life. So the fact that you tell him you want to. Don't even make it negotiable. Be like, I really want to get married. When he asks you what you want for Christmas, I want to get married. What you want for your birthday, I want to get married. What you want for your birthday, I want to get married.
Starting point is 01:43:26 What you want for Valentine's, I want to get married. Maybe you're frying too much. Why don't you just ask him one good time? Why don't you ask him? Why don't you get a ring and be like, I want you to be my husband? Don't do that. Hell no. Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:43:36 I'm sorry. Don't do that. You just going to curse on the radio? I will never. I will never do that. Yeah, don't do that. I'm not about to be a Chrissy and Jim Jones situation. I don't think there's anything wrong with letting him know that's what you want, though.
Starting point is 01:43:48 And if he really, really loves you and he really, because it's going to come a point in time where he can't give you, he can buy you a house, he can buy you purses, all that stuff. And he's done all that. He bought me a house. We both own our own businesses. He supports my business so much. And it's just like. You want that ring. That's the only thing that I want.
Starting point is 01:44:05 I don't even need... The thing is, I can get one of those little rings you go work out with that's like silicone. I don't need the big jewel. I just want to be able
Starting point is 01:44:13 to share the last name and we be a united front. You need to go on Tidal and make you a marriage playlist. So when y'all in the car, just songs be playing like Let's Get Married, Beyonce, if you like it,
Starting point is 01:44:22 then you put a ring on it. Just all these songs that got to do with marriage. Just keep beating it in his head. Eventually, he'll come around. He listens to y'all all day, so y'all tell him to marry me. What's his name? What's his name?
Starting point is 01:44:32 She didn't want to say. His name is Dwight. Dwight. Dwight. Get married. Get married, Dwight. Yes, King. Or what you do is you wait right, right when y'all having sex, right when he's about to
Starting point is 01:44:42 and you stop right there and you be like, this is only for a married man and just walk out. What? No, Dwight, for real, get married. I promise you when you get married, your life will change, man. And not only when you get married, when you get married and you a faithful black man, I promise you, your life
Starting point is 01:45:00 will transform in ways that you can't even explain. I can't even explain to you the joy that I feel in my life right now. Your penis gets bigger when you get married. Oh, yeah. Get married, Dwight. Marry me, Dwight. That's right, Dwight. All right, Dwight.
Starting point is 01:45:14 Do what's right, Dwight. Do what's right, Dwight. Do what's right, Dwight. Do what's right, Dwight. All right. I'm with that. All right, well, don't move. Happy holidays.
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