The Breakfast Club - Forever President Barack Obama

Episode Date: November 25, 2020

Today on the show we had a very very special guest join the show! We had the 44th United Ststes President who is better known as Barck Obama.! He spoke about his new memoir "A Promised Land", his marr...iage issues while being President, racsim and so much more. Also, after the interview we wanted to know what our listeners thought of it, so opened up the phone lines for them to comment. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, 1974. George Foreman was champion of the world. Ali was smart and he was handsome. Story behind the Rumble in the Jungle is like a Hollywood movie. But that is only half the story. There's also James Brown, Bill Withers, B.B. King, Miriam Akiba. All the biggest black artists on the planet. Together in Africa.
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Starting point is 00:01:39 DJ Envy, Angela Yee, and Charlamagne Tha God. Wake that ass up, the Breast Club is on. Right here. I am Phillip Blass, I that ass up. The Breakfast Club is on. Right here. I am Phillip Blass. I'm talking to the Breakfast Club this morning. Okay, okay, okay. I love coming here. I'm never not going to come here.
Starting point is 00:01:52 You guys are good to me. I'm a turn. I'm always going to be good to y'all. For a lot of people in the hip-hop generation, the Breakfast Club is where people get their information on the topics, on the artists, and everything like that. In that aspect, radio is still important. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:02:03 When my name come up, respect it. Good morning, USA! Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, is so special. I'm going to tell you why. Why is today special? I think next week on the 2nd, it'll be 10 years that we've been doing the Breakfast Club. Correct. For 10 years, for this whole week, the week of Thanksgiving, we've never, ever been here live. No. Ever. We've been on vacation. Not one time. We're always out
Starting point is 00:02:58 of town. It's just the week of Thanksgiving, we're always off. So on the eve of this white man's holiday, we decided to come in for one day and one day only for a very, very, very, very, very special occasion, a very special reason. All right. There's a book out. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:03:14 It's called A Promised Land. A Promised Land, right. It's written by a guy you may know. What's his name? He's kind of popular, I guess. Who is he? What's his name? I mean, he was the 44th president of the United States of America.
Starting point is 00:03:28 What's his name? Barack Hussein Obama. Never heard of him. Who was that? Barack Hussein Obama. Who was that? And I guess you could say we were summoned, right? We were summoned?
Starting point is 00:03:40 We don't have all of that fancy-ass technology that Oprah has where she can be in our house somewhere and make it look like her and Barack are in the same room. No, we don't have that. So we had to get COVID tested and fly down to D.C. and make sure we were properly socially distanced to sit and kick it with President Barack Obama. Well, not only that, they took all our Social Security numbers, our full names. That's regular protocol, though. You know, made sure that, I guess, we were on the list.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah, you actually also need that. Don't you need that to get the COVID test, do you? What? I know. No. You don't need that information? No. Not your social.
Starting point is 00:04:14 All that information was for secret service protocol. Yeah, just to run it, make sure we leave a good money. Yeah, I've been vetted before. Actually, first time I ever got vetted, I didn't pass at all. Yeah, we all been vetted, but you didn't pass that one. Yeah, I didn't pass that one. But, you know, since then, my life has changed. You're a different person.
Starting point is 00:04:31 So President Barack Obama will be joining us next hour. We're going to kick it with the president. That's the only reason we're here. Yeah, that's the only reason we're here. That's the only reason we came in. We're supposed to be on vacation. I didn't even know we were coming in. I was like, wait, we have a show tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah, I mean, I think it's only right. It's only right. It's only right. He's the president. And we sat and chopped it up with him for almost an hour. Yeah, almost an hour. Also, we usually, you know, play snippets of the interview on the air and then put the whole thing up on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:04:59 This morning, we're playing the whole interview. Yeah, we're playing the whole interview. In the 7 o'clock hour. Yeah. So we'll get into all of that. That's it. That's the only reason we're here. That's the only reason we're playing the whole interview. Yeah, we're playing the whole interview. In the 7 o'clock hour. Yeah. So we'll get into all of that. That's it. That's the only reason we're here. That's the only reason we're here.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Anything else y'all got? If y'all do, feel free. Yeah, we got front page news next. We'll be talking about you. Well, let's talk about who Joe Biden has selected for his cabinet. And let's also talk about coronavirus. This vaccine is supposed to be coming in a couple of weeks. And we'll give you some updates on the side effects.
Starting point is 00:05:28 All right. We'll get into all that when we come back. Keep it locked. This is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:05:37 What's happening. And next hour. Yes, Barack Obama. President Barack Obama will be joining us. That's right. And we're playing the interview in full. So no songs in between, no commercial breaks. No, it's commercial breaks.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Not in between, no. No, it's not. It's 15, 15, 15. No. You sure? 45 minutes straight. Really? Yeah, 46. How y'all finesse that?
Starting point is 00:05:57 I don't know. I just asked them right there. I'm like, no commercial? They're like, nah, we gonna rock it straight. It was like only a couple people can do that. It was like Barack, Hov, Beyonce, and Michelle Obama, the only four people that can get on the air without playing. We can debate all of those.
Starting point is 00:06:13 What? Let's get some front page news. I ain't gonna front. I don't even know who's playing football tomorrow. I don't even know. I've been chilling at home. Come on, man. Cowboys, Redskins. You know that. Who cares about those? Exactly. It's a waste of time. They should be social distancing. Away from the
Starting point is 00:06:30 NFL. Away from the NFL. Alright, what else we got, Yee? Well, Joe Biden is building out his cabinet since we're talking presidents. That's our president-elect. And there's 15 executive departments. And so far, of course, Kamala Harris, we know, is vice president. Secretary of State is Anthony Blinken. Secretary of Homeland Security is Alejandro Mayorkas.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And that's a big one because he actually is the first Latino and he's also the first immigrant to serve in that position. So that's going to be a big deal right now because, you know, we've had a lot of issues with immigration in this country and DACA and all of that. So this could be something. And he says that he would have never seen himself in that position. So he's hoping to help out people who are fleeing from persecution and other things coming to this country for a better life. That's amazing. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Yes. And Donald Trump is finally, it seems like, allowing this transition to happen. Joe Biden had tweeted out the election is over. It's time to put aside the partisanship and the rhetoric designed to demonize one another. We have to come together. So yes, it looks like begrudgingly we are going to move forward.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I just don't see it ending this normally. I just don't see it. I mean, it's relatively normal by Trump's standards. It hasn't been normal. But I don't see it ending just normally. I just don't see it. I think we're going to party mad people though. He party mad people. Well, he needs to start with himself. I don't see it ending just normally. I just don't see it. I think he's going to party mad people, though. He party mad people.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Well, he needs to start with himself. I don't know if he can do that, dog. Watching that on CNN last night, they don't know if he can actually do that. It's never been done before. There's nothing in the Constitution that says you can't, if I'm not mistaken. It doesn't have to be charged and locked up first? I have no idea. U.S. COVID-19 cases could reach 20 million, they're saying, by Inauguration Day on January 20th.
Starting point is 00:08:05 But by December 10th, they're saying that they could start soon after December 10th distributing the COVID-19 vaccine. They are going to start doing some testing in pregnant women and children, though. So, you know, a lot of people are reluctant to actually take this vaccine. But right now they have to show that it's safe and make sure that group can take it they also said that uh doctors are saying that the cdc should warn people about the side effects from covid vaccine shots and they said it will not be a walk in the park so you have to get the first shot of the vaccine and then you have to come back and get a second shot also it requires two doses and one doctor is worried patients will come back won't come back
Starting point is 00:08:44 for a second dose because of the unpleasant side effects after the first shot. That could include symptoms like muscle pains, chills and headaches, which is also symptoms associated with mild COVID-19. And they also need to make sure people are aware of that. Yeah, I just think it's whack that, you know, you hear Governor Cuomo in New York and you hear Joe Biden say that we have to get this to the African-American community first because, you know, they're the ones being impacted by it the most. They don't feel like that about anything else. They don't feel like that when it comes to better education. They don't feel like that when it comes to economic equity packages. You know, they don't feel like that when it comes to, you know, mental health care resources in our community.
Starting point is 00:09:19 So why are they in such a rush to push this vaccine? That's what I want to know. I thought they were giving it to healthcare workers. Yeah, they're giving it to healthcare workers, and then they said the elderly, and then everybody else. Governor Cuomo and Joe Biden both said verbatim out of their mouth, we have to get this to the African-American community first because it's impacting them the most.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Yeah, but I know they're giving it to healthcare workers first. I know that was the first step, and then they said elderly. But, I mean, I'll be honest with you. I'm at a point right now where I'm like, yo, it is what it is, man. If I gotta take this vaccine, I'ma take the vaccine. I miss my mother and my father. I can't see them on Thanksgiving. I probably won't see them on Christmas. I'm tired, man. I wanna see my mama. Can I hug
Starting point is 00:09:54 my mama? Can I give my dad a hug? I'll be right behind you. Go, guinea pig, go. Go, guinea pig, go. Go. Get out there. Go do your thing, baby. Alright? Might make your beard be permanently black. All right? You might not have to dye it no more.
Starting point is 00:10:08 All right? I'm going for it, man. What if your beard turns black but your skin turns gray after you take that damn vaccine? That's all right. I won't dye it, though. But as long as I got it. You don't know. You know, there were so many people dying. Like, this has been an FWA.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And I want to see my mom and my pops. Like, I want to spend time with them. I want to spend time with them for Thanksgiving. I don't want to Zoom them for Thanksgiving. It's whack. Well, this has been an FWA. And I want to see my mom and my pops. Like, I want to spend time with them. I want to spend time with them for Thanksgiving. I don't want to Zoom them for Thanksgiving. It's whack. Well, guess what? Thanksgiving is tomorrow. I know.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Okay, so if somebody pulls up on you today with a vaccine, you better not take it, dumbass. All right? Hey, I heard you want to see your mom with them tomorrow. I got something in this needle for you. There might be heroin. What's wrong with you? There might be heroin. And as far as Joe Biden's cabinet, Dr. Ruth Simmons needs to be his secretary of education.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Because we all know the greatest and most long-lasting form of systemic racism has been in the education system. So if there's not a black person that's going to be Treasury Secretary, Ruth Simmons should be Secretary of Education. Dr. Ruth Simmons. Googler. All right. Well, that is your front page news. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:11:06 If you need to vent, hit us up right now. Yeah, we are live. Usually we're on vacation right now, but we have an interview next hour with somebody you might know. President Barack Obama? You know that guy? Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Yeah, we're going to be kicking with President Barack Obama. No breaks, no commercials, no interruptions with music. We're going to be talking to him straight. That has never happened the 10 years we've been up here. We've never done that because we always just put pieces,
Starting point is 00:11:30 regardless of how long the interview is, we always just put pieces of it on the air, put the full thing up on YouTube. But, you know, it's a holiday week, man. Tomorrow's Thanksgiving. We ain't supposed to be heading nowhere. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:40 All right. All right. Well, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed?
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Starting point is 00:15:26 Whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? This is Janelle. Hey, Janelle, get it off your chest. I just want to have a cool bomb drop for me on my birthday Saturday. Happy birthday, Janelle.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Hey, happy birthday. What are you doing this year? Staying in the house. dropped for me on my birthday Saturday. Happy birthday, Janelle. Happy birthday. What are you doing this year? Staying in the house. I'm glad you all are staying in the house. I just like to see what creative things people are doing for their birthday during this time because my birthday is coming up too, and I don't think I'll be doing much either. Well, we was going to go to Sloppy Chops, me and my husband.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Oh, I love Sloppy Chops. Sloppy Chops. They open. We're going to go by there. No, we love Sloppy Chops. Sloppy Chops. They open. No, we're going to do takeout. They're only doing takeout. They're only doing takeout. They're only doing takeout now? Yes. Sloppy Chops is a restaurant in Detroit. What up,
Starting point is 00:16:16 though? They serve the most amazing seafood and steaks and food. I went there, what, like a week ago? Two weeks ago. Yes. Yeah, BET actually just did a giveaway with them yesterday for our families, and they just gave away free food all day. There's a bunch of brothers that own that. They own another one called Slappy Crabs, I believe.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Crabs. Yeah, downtown Detroit. I love it. Brothers doing their thing, man. Yeah, yeah. So clap it up for Janelle. Clap it up for you guys. Okay, Janelle, happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Happy birthday, and I'm proud of you guys for this interview. I'm proud of you guys for everything you guys are doing. Congratulations. God bless you guys. God bless the world. Let's heal together, and let's get this coronavirus under control. Thank you, Janelle. Beautiful Sagittarius.
Starting point is 00:17:01 My wife is a Sagittarius. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit Sagittarius. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Let's go. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're man or flesh. Say it with your chest. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. So if you got something on your mind, let it out. Hello, who's this? Hey, this is King Gemini, man.
Starting point is 00:17:26 How y'all doing? What's up, brother? Get off your chest. All right, so last night, right? Uh-huh. I was performing oral sex with my girl and all that, right? And she's about to come back. This here. And she farted in my face, man.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Oh, you got pink eyes. Oh, that means you was doing it. That means you was doing it real good. Means you got pink eyes. Shout out to you. Yeah. Hey, you know what? I ain't got pink eyes, but real quick.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Hey, Charlamagne, can you do me a huge favor, man? I will not fart on you. Don't you dare ask me to. No, I was wondering if you could send me a book or something, man, and have Barack Obama sign it for me. That would be great. What? I don't have it.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I only have one copy of A Promised Land. Oh, man. Yeah, he only sent us three copies. He sent one for each of us. And I'm actually sending mine to my mom, to be honest with you. And somebody stole mine in the mail, so I had to go buy another one. Oh, man, I was really hoping on that one, though. If I had it, it was yours.
Starting point is 00:18:21 I mean, I got a copy of Dr. Rita Walker's book up here. Oh, yeah. I'll take that. And I'll send you a copy of mine. It's not like I sold 1.7 in the first week like Barack did. I'm doing it. I do well in the book world, though. Yeah, I know. Actually, listen to your books.
Starting point is 00:18:39 I ain't reading them yet, though. That's the same. I'm going to put you on hold, and they're going to get your address. We're going to mail it out to you, brother. Hold on, Stinky Eye. Hello, who's this? This is Deanna. Good morning. Good morning. Get it off your chest. All right, so, Charlamagne. Yes, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Good morning to you. Good morning to you and the kids. Good morning. So, yesterday, my husband went up for parole. Okay? He's been locked up for, like, 19 years, he went up for parole, okay? He's been locked up for like 19 years. I actually wrote a letter to President Obama a few years ago to see if he could maybe be pardoned. So, long story short, my husband goes up for parole.
Starting point is 00:19:19 They give him 10 more years. Crazy. Why? I don't know. I don't know. I didn't ask why. I didn't know. I didn't ask why. I didn't care. I said, what's up?
Starting point is 00:19:28 You know what I'm saying? Like, you coming home or not? He's like, not again. He's 10 years. And I'm like, some bulls**t. You's my friend. That was crazy. I think I need to get men out here that don't take care of their kids 10 years.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Period. So he already did 19 and they gave him another 10 and didn't tell him why they gave him another 10? They told him his case plan was messed up. Stopped him dealing with the case managers. And I'm like, this is ridiculous because he committed a crime, but he paid his time. And he got a whole family out here. Like, I'm struggling to take care of my nine kids and my husband in prison.
Starting point is 00:19:59 It's crazy. Something had to happen. He must have did something in prison for them to give him another 10 years. You know what, Charlamagne? Like, honestly, I don't know. I wasn't able to watch his hearing. Normally, they can let you watch it live stream. I wasn't able to.
Starting point is 00:20:13 It wasn't aired. So I'm like, that was God, you know what I'm saying, telling me to let me fall back and go ahead and let me handle this. I don't know what happened in that hearing. I couldn't tell you. I don't know. But I just had to get it off my chest. I'm in crisis just today. And it's my chest. I mean, Christ, it's yesterday.
Starting point is 00:20:28 And it's like, this shit is real. It's real. It's real. I wish I could tell you something to help you, but I don't even know what to say to you at a time like this, to be honest. I know. I know. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Like, no one has anything to say. It's all good. My kids keep giving me encouraging words. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to be strong. I'm up early. I couldn't even sleep last night. I'm up early. Like, what am I about to do with my life?
Starting point is 00:20:49 Ten more years of being dedicated to a man in prison. I love him to death. That's my n***a. Like, I love him with all my heart. Right. Yeah, you can't do his bid with him, you know? And, you know, supporting him is one thing, but you can't put your life on hold.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Damn, I'm cool. I done had sex. You know what I'm you know, supporting him is one thing, but you can't put your life on hold. Damn, I'm cool. I done had sex. You know what I'm saying? I'm 45. I done had enough sex to last me the rest of my life. I'm cool. I'm away from my man to come home. But I just think it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:13 All right. It's f***ing crazy. We praying for you, ma. Absolutely, ma. I'm so sorry. Yes, we are. Lord have mercy. I wish I could do something else, but I don't know what else to do.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Thank you for calling. Good luck. And try to enjoy the holidays, mama. When the president comes in, tell him Brandon Gordon my husband name I wrote him a letter couple years ago We already did Go mama Yeah, yeah, we Yeah, we he's not the president no more. He's not the president
Starting point is 00:21:41 You have to reach out to Trump. He will forever be the president. Yeah, f*** Trump. But that's fine. I'm sorry. Have a good night, guys. Thank you. All right. Geesh. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Well, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. Now we got rumors on the way. Yes, and let's talk about Grammy nominations. The Grammy Award nominations are here. And we'll tell you what some of the reactions are from who's nominated. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:06 We'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Hey. Ha ha. Yeah. Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:22:16 It's DJ and the Angela Yee. Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. And less than 15 minutes. What's less than 15 minutes? President Barack Obama. We're going to be kicking it with President Barack Obama. We're going to be kicking it with President Barack Obama.
Starting point is 00:22:26 We were summoned. Yeah, to D.C. And you know what's so interesting? We're always off this week. Like, we're never, ever here the week of this white man's holiday. You know, but since we shot down to D.C. because we don't have the fancy technology
Starting point is 00:22:40 that Oprah has, it seemed like we're just all in the same studio. We actually had to get COVID tested and go down there and socially distance and all that Oprah has. Correct. It seemed like we're just all in the same studio. We actually had to get COVID tested and go down there and socially distance and all that good stuff. And that conversation will play back next hour. Yeah, that's right. In less than 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:22:53 So let's get to the rumors. Let's talk the Grammys. Listen up. It's just in. Oh, the gossip. Gossip. The rumor report. Gossip.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Gossip. With Angela Yee. It's the rumor report. The Breakfast Club. Now, we said we don't have the technology to do what Oprah did. We don't even have the technology to get this thing working right. Ye is in Detroit, and we don't know what's going on. Ye, you there?
Starting point is 00:23:13 Ye? What up, though? Okay, Ye is not there. All right, so let's talk about the Grammy Awards and some of the nominations that came out. Did you see some of these nominations? Yeah, I saw some of the fuss on social media yesterday, but, you know, it just bugs me out
Starting point is 00:23:28 when I see all these pro-black folks really giving a damn about the white man's validation. But continue. So let's go through some of these nominations. Best Rap Album. All right. D Smoke with Black Habits, Alfredo, Freddie Gibbs, and The Alchemist.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Jay Electronica, Written Testimony, King's Disease, Nas, and I think it was one more. What is it? Royster Five Nine? Royster Five Nine. Royster Five Nine, yeah. Allegory. All great projects.
Starting point is 00:23:53 I haven't heard D Smoke. Salute to D Smoke. I honestly slept on the brother. I definitely haven't heard Black Habits, but all of those other albums, they deserve to be there. I just feel like Lil Baby should have been there with My Turn.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Lil Baby definitely should have been there. I feel like Rod like Lil Baby should have been there with My Turn. Lil Baby definitely should have been there. I feel like Roddy Ricch should have been there with Anti-Social. And I definitely think Conway the Machine or Benny the Butcher should have been in there too. Especially Conway Project was phenomenal. And it's been out long enough where it should have been nominated. I agree. But I'm not going to lie. I love Jay Electronica's album.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I love a written testimony, too. I might be one of the few people, based off the conversations that I'll be having. Really? Yeah, a lot of people. I think people had too high expectations for it. Only because they've been waiting for a Jay Electronica project for so long. And it had all those whole guest appearances. I think people were.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I thought it was dope. They had a very, very high expectation for it. I thought it was phenomenal. It got washed away. very high expectation for it. I thought it was phenomenal. It got washed away, and I don't know why it got washed away. It was something that happened right during that time. I don't know if it was George Floyd or if it was the pandemic. That hit right during that time. A little bit of both.
Starting point is 00:24:53 And then the album kind of got washed away because it was supposed to go on tour. It was supposed to be a huge announcement, but I really love Jay Electronica's album. Based off that category, Lil Baby definitely should have been there. Like I said, Roddy Ricch, one of the Griselda brothers. I think he's a Benny O'Conway But for that category I give that to Nas, King's Dream Personally Yeah, Nas, King's Dream
Starting point is 00:25:11 King's Disease What did I say? King's Dream And Nas has never gotten a Grammy Never gotten a Grammy? Who cares? Nas never got a Grammy So Nas should definitely win that this year
Starting point is 00:25:20 Best rap song The Bigger Picture, Little Baby Who else? The Box. Roddy Ricch. Okay. Laugh Now, Cry Later. I felt like that
Starting point is 00:25:29 just came out. Rockstar. The Baby, Roddy Ricch. And Savage. Beyonce and Megan Thee Stallion. I don't know why Savage is in the best rap song, though.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I guess, yeah, I guess so. They were rapping. But I think Savage. You think Savage wins that? I think Savage wins that, or
Starting point is 00:25:47 The Bigger Picture. I don't know what the metrics are. I'm going to be honest with you, I don't care. Like, it's like,
Starting point is 00:25:53 you know, I see everybody getting upset about the Grammys, and I'm like, yo, who cares what them culturally clueless white people think, you know?
Starting point is 00:25:59 If I had to pick a song, my personal favorite out of that bunch, it probably would be Bigger Picture. Bigger Picture. Or Lil Baby, yeah. Rockstar is a bigger record, though. Rockstar is huge. I didn't ask you that, my personal favorite out of that bunch, it probably would be Bigger Picture. Bigger Picture. Or Lil Baby, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Rockstar is a bigger record, though. Rockstar is huge. I didn't ask you that, Drum. I'm just letting you know. I didn't ask you that. See, see, see. But Savage was huge, too. We just had a conversation.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Savage was huge. Not as big as Rockstar, though. See, I don't know what the metrics are. Right, it don't make sense. I don't know what the metrics are. I don't know. Well, The Weeknd tweeted out yesterday, the Grammys remain corrupt.
Starting point is 00:26:23 You owe me, my fans, and the industry transparency. Listen, The Weeknd tweeted out yesterday, the Grammys remain corrupt. You owe me, my fans, and the industry transparency. Listen, The Weeknd definitely got robbed because, you know, the Grammys, I don't look for them to hip-hop, look for them for hip-hop, right? But I definitely look for them for, I guess, the R&B, pop stuff. The Blinding Lights was the biggest record of the year, right? Yes. By whatever metric you can measure. And Heartless, another big song on that album, too.
Starting point is 00:26:42 It did really well. Well, album of the year, they put Taylor Swift, Post Malone. Too much goddamn mayonnaise already. Hit the drop. Black Pumas. What is Black Pumas? I don't know. Cold Play.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Oh, my God. Jacob Carrier. That's his name. Get the goddamn drum. Haim. Haim. H-A-I-M. I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Drum? And Dua Lipa. I don't know any of this. Drop the drum. Drop the Trump. Drop the Trump. Too much goddamn man. Too much goddamn man. And then they got Jhene Aiko.
Starting point is 00:27:11 And what? Al Maria. All right. Give it to Jhene Aiko. Just because you don't know nothing else. I don't know nothing else. He's a person of color. Give it to Jhene Aiko.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Oh, my goodness. All right. Well, that is your rumor report. We don't know where he is. Like we said, Oprah has the dope technology where she can look like her and Barack are in the same room. We don't even have enough technology to get Angelina on the line. But we were in the same room with President Barack Obama. We definitely were.
Starting point is 00:27:34 We went down to D.C. to have the conversation. So that conversation will be coming on shortly. All right. So keep it locked. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angelina Yee, Charlamagne Tha God.
Starting point is 00:27:45 We are the Breakfast Club. What's happening? Listen, we're only here, okay? Listen, next December the 6th. Correct. That's Sunday. Ten years. That's Sunday, I believe.
Starting point is 00:27:54 That the Breakfast Club has been on the air. And for the past ten years, during this week of this white man's holiday, we never are here. Right. We used to take vacation. Always. And we've taken vacation all week. Just Monday, we had to fly down to D. Right. Right. You used to take vacation. Always. And where we've been, we've taken vacation all week. Just Monday we had to fly down to D.C. We were summoned because the 44th president
Starting point is 00:28:09 of the United States of America has a book out called A Promised Land and he wanted to do the Breakfast Club. Right. Okay. We don't have the fancy technology that Oprah has so we had to go down there. Alright. We did our COVID test. We socially distanced and we had a great conversation. The only reason we're here today is because this conversation is airing
Starting point is 00:28:26 in a few minutes. Yeah, we went down to a hotel in D.C. and it was dope. I didn't know what to expect. When he walked in, it felt like he was one of our brothers. I don't want to say one of the homies, but he just seemed so cool,
Starting point is 00:28:42 so relaxed, so inviting, so just felt like a... Still a politician. Still so inviting, so just felt like a, I don't know how to describe it. Still a politician. Still a politician, but it felt like a Thanksgiving dinner where he was just cool. Like, on some school. You ain't gonna say all that. I am. Still a politician.
Starting point is 00:28:54 So what does that mean? He can't be cool being a politician? Yeah, he was definitely cool. I met some asses, a politician that was ass, you know? Really? Yeah. Oh, name some names. No.
Starting point is 00:29:02 I want to know. No. Name some names. No. I want to know. Name some names. No. I mean, it's a certain level of foolishness you have to be in order to be a politician, though. Because you're always on, right? You can't always be happy. Correct.
Starting point is 00:29:15 You know what I mean? You got to tell people what they want to hear. He was real about things, though, and he was definitely very transparent in the book. Very transparent in the book. Mm-hmm. All right, so we'll talk to President Barack Obama when we come back. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. Be part of a great colonial tradition. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast.
Starting point is 00:30:27 That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout?
Starting point is 00:31:06 Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So y'all, this is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand-new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. Did you know, did you know, I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, it was called a moment. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. I'm screaming. I know. This is what we do every night. You were talking nice and low. This is how we talk every day.
Starting point is 00:33:16 And it wasn't coming in hot, and now you are. Well, now we are. We have a special guest. He served eight years as the 44th President of the United States. Ladies and gentlemen, President Barack Obama. Never heard of him 44th President of the United States. Ladies and gentlemen, President Barack Obama. Never heard of him. Never heard of him. You know what? I heard of y'all, and I appreciate you guys having me. It's wonderful to see you again. Thank you for being here. Thank you. Now, we don't have much time, so let's get right into it. Let's do it. A Promised Land. Why is that the title for your book? When I think about America, I think about both where we've been, where we might be going.
Starting point is 00:33:48 I'm reminded of Dr. King's speech, the famous speech he gave shortly before he got shot about, I might not get there with you, but I've been to the mountaintop and I see the promised land. And I think that that idea that we're not where we need to be, but we still act on the faith and the belief that we can get there. That's how I think about America. That's how I think about my own political journey. It's not one where it's ever going to be finished. It's not one where racism is gone or inequality is gone, but we can continually try to do better. That was the spirit that I wanted to communicate.
Starting point is 00:34:33 You say in the preface that America's ideals have always been secondary to conquest and subjugation, a racial caste system, and that to pretend otherwise is to be complicit in a game that was rigged from the start. So my question is, if the game is rigged and we know the fight is fixed, how could Black people ever believe in this idea of America being a promised land? That's one argument. And that's how some people feel. And obviously there's evidence of that. Slavery, Jim Crow, Native Americans being driven from their lands. On the other hand, what we also have stories of is abolition and the civil rights movement and folks fighting for their freedom
Starting point is 00:35:14 and each generation passing on a legacy of struggle that results in something a little bit better. What I try to do, book as a whole, is paint an honest picture about how there's a gap between the myth of America and the reality of America. We'll never completely close that gap, but if we put in the effort, if we stay focused, reach out, then we can get closer to the ideal. You know, one of the lessons I try to teach in the book about politics is it's never going to be perfect.
Starting point is 00:35:57 We live in a big country with a lot of different points of view. We've got hundreds of years of oppression and discrimination that have to be overcome. We've got the natural human impulses that you see around the world, greed, power, folks trying to get over on others. But you also see kindness, courage, folks looking out for each other, and a lot of goodness along with the bad.
Starting point is 00:36:30 And in politics, the job is not to think that you're ever going to eliminate all the bad. It's can you empower the good to make more kids get a better education, to make sure that some folks have better health care, to make sure that there's less discrimination and that the police are more accountable. And if you do that and you stick with it, the distance that we've traveled, let's say just in my lifetime, we were talking before we got on the air,
Starting point is 00:37:02 I'm 59, I don't feel old. And in human history, 59 years is a blink of the eye. None of us would have been sitting here 59 years ago. We couldn't imagine, you know, you guys having your own show that you control and that you produce. And I couldn't imagine being a former president and having a best-selling book. That I couldn't imagine being a former president and having a
Starting point is 00:37:25 bestselling book. That just wasn't in the cards. And that was just, you know, in my lifetime. And so we can imagine if we keep working, that maybe our kids, certainly our grandkids, if we do it right, they're going to be that much more ahead of the game now. But, you know, one thing that we always have to remember is history doesn't just go forward. It can go backwards, too. And if we're not vigilant, things can get worse. President Obama, I wanted to ask you something about Reverend Jeremiah Wright from in your book, because you've addressed it, Michelle Obama has addressed it.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Do you think that in today's climate, the comments and the speeches that Jeremiah Wright gave would still be looked at the same way where you would have had to distance yourself from him today? Yeah, you know, look, it's an interesting thing, as I write about in the book. You know, Reverend Wright is an example of somebody who supremely gifted preacher. Trinity United Church of Christ on the south side of Chicago had amazing ministry, still does. I was very close to a lot of people in that congregation as well as Reverend Wright. In national politics,
Starting point is 00:38:39 if you can take out a bunch of soundbites that say, God damn America, even if the context of it is prophetic and biblical and he's trying to describe how somebody might feel. He wasn't promoting the notion that God was damning America. He was making the point that if you looked at slavery and discrimination, you could see the conclusion of people feeling that there was not an alignment with Christian values and America. But if you'd see a two-minute sound bite, trying to explain that is too complicated.
Starting point is 00:39:19 In my campaign, I had to constantly manage the fact that the truths that Black folks experience on a day-to-day basis are not going to be the same as the truths that the country as a whole experience. But if you want to operate at the highest levels of politics, you have to be able to communicate and translate for the country as a whole. And there were times where I was surprised by the reaction of folks generally, white voters to certain things that to me didn't seem like it was something they should be surprised or upset about. And I suspect attitudes would probably be
Starting point is 00:40:05 a little bit different now. And to give one example that I use in the book, when Professor Skip Gates gets arrested in his own house, I write about the fact that in a press conference, I'm asked about it and I said, well, I think the police probably acted stupidly in arresting a 60-year-old professor who's got a lame leg in his own house after he's shown them ideas. Even if he cussed out the police, all they have to do is just leave, right?
Starting point is 00:40:38 And that was treated with all kinds of controversy and my polling with white voters dropped drastically because the notion is somehow I was insulting the police. I think today, in light of everything that's happened and part of what happened this summer, in terms of raising awareness of potential bias in the criminal justice system, I suspect that that would not have seemed as much of a controversial statement as it was viewed at the time, even though at the time I didn't think it was particularly controversial.
Starting point is 00:41:16 You talk about that in the good fight chapter, the Henry Louis Gates situation, but you also say that wouldn't have happened to a white person in the same situation, but at the same time you said you wish you had have said that then, but you didn't. So, when we bite our tongue in situations like that, who are we trying to protect? One of the things that you, that I try to communicate in this book is what's the best way to expand folks' understanding. Where do you see teachable moments? And there have been times where, for example, the tragedy in Charleston, when Rem Pickney and others who were praying and invited a young white man in to pray with them, he then shoots them.
Starting point is 00:42:11 He's obviously, his head's been filled up with racist ideology. That was a teachable moment where I could say some things that I might not have said in another context. You know, and part of what I also try to describe in the book is the fact that the prophetic voice that you have, if you are a civil rights leader, if you're a Malcolm, if you're a Martin, is not going to be the same voice as if you're a civil rights leader, if you're a Malcolm, if you're a Martin, is not going to be the same voice as if you're a politician. Because politicians, the whole thing is, I've got to figure out how do I get this white senator from this conservative state to maybe support this bill. That's different from me teaching as a civil rights leader or a movement leader.
Starting point is 00:43:07 And each of us have different roles to play in that process. And I think that as one of my, I think, staff people I write about in the book when I'm running, he says, white folks, they notice you don't look like the other 42 folks that have been president. They're noticing this is already a radical break for them. And in the same way that Jackie Robinson, there were times where if he hadn't been the first, he would have whooped on somebody who's coming in,
Starting point is 00:43:52 sliding with spikes at him, or otherwise trying to injure him. But he recognized, all right, there's some things that right now, I'm gonna be more diplomatic about that maybe the next African-American president will not have to be. I think those are the kinds of things that you're constantly having to measure and make decisions about. One thing I love about the book, President Obama, is you talk about your relationship with your wife.
Starting point is 00:44:28 And you talk about how your wife is the boss and you're scared of her. You also talk about how every decision has to be approved by your wife. You know, one thing that I love about the book is everybody talks about relationships and sometimes things seem perfect. But in your book, you show that things aren't perfect.
Starting point is 00:44:44 You know, I've been married 19 years. So when you talk about your wife and you talk about how hard it was and how she didn't want you to run, how bad did it get in the household? Did it ever get to the point where it was like, you know what, maybe this is not going to work for us. Or was that never an option when it came to your relationship? No, I think, I think there were times where certainly she thought this wasn't going to work. Michelle is somebody who has a different temperament than me. And I think she'd admit that she has more of a temper than I do. I think she can get more pessimistic sometimes about things than I can.
Starting point is 00:45:26 I tend to be pretty even keeled. Yeah, we'll figure this out kind of approach. But as I write about in the book, sometimes that itself is frustrating to your partner. If you're all like, hey, honey, relax. Why are you getting so excited about stuff? Then she'll be like, oh, you're just not listening to me at all. Right. Right?
Starting point is 00:45:49 No, I listen to you. I'm just saying, you know, it's not so bad. Well, what do you think, I'm overreacting? Is that what you're saying? Right? And then you're in that pattern. So there's no doubt that there were periods, there were episodes where she was questioning whether the life that I had charted for us was compatible with what she wanted out of life. You know, Michelle once told me something that I think summed it up pretty well.
Starting point is 00:46:24 She said, I have organized my life not to have a lot of mess in my life. And politics, by definition, brings mess into our household. You've got people that I would never associate with otherwise who now suddenly are talking about us or, you know, have impact on our wellbeing. And I don't, that's not what I want. And I understood that. And the sacrifice she made is one that, you know, I've had to work off, you know, like I've been, my debt has been.
Starting point is 00:47:04 You're still paying that tab off. It's like, you know, it's almost like, I've been, my debt has been. You're still paying that tab off us. It's never ending. It's like, you know, it's almost like a payday loan, you know, it just keeps on. The interest was high. How did y'all get over it? Was it therapy? Was it friends? Was it reverends?
Starting point is 00:47:16 Was it church? Was it prayer? Was it when the terms were over? Well, I think all of the above. Yeah, Michelle writes about the fact that, you fact that we went to counseling pre-presidency, and that was when the kids were small. And I think anybody who's had small kids, that's always a strain. As much joy as they bring, there is that tension,
Starting point is 00:47:38 especially if both spouses are working. Right. And during the White House, look, I give a lot of credit to my mother-in-law because, you know, Ms. Marion, you know, she would, Michelle would be hot, you know, she'd go upstairs.
Starting point is 00:47:57 My mother-in-law was living in the suite on the third floor, and Michelle would go up there, and I'm pretty sure she talked Michelle down a couple of times. Friends. One thing we, Michelle and I both tell younger couples who are going through rough patches.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I think we were pretty good about the fact that even when things were tough, we never lost basic respect for the other person. We never thought that that person was a bad person. We never said things that would make it seem as if, oh, you just completely disrespect me. It was more, look, I love you, Barack, but, you know, this is driving me crazy. Or, hon, you know how much I respect you, but. So I think that is part of what kept us able to sort this out, because we never doubted each other's intentions and and our the the basic fact that you know my view of
Starting point is 00:49:07 Michelle is you know she is a remarkable woman uh even you know if she's driving me crazy sometimes I never thought that there was anybody who I would rather be with you know being that you're so even killed right did you ever take your frustrations from work home? And did you ever do anything like punch a wall? Or what did you do when you got mad? You know, I had, there were times where I would have a potty mouth in the Oval Office. We heard some of that in this book. We heard it. Which I appreciate. Well, I mean, I think it's important to be honest, because part of what I try to describe in the book is the White House and the presidency.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Look, you're the leader of the free world. It's the most powerful office on Earth. But it's also a job. And the West Wing is also an office. And you're gonna have some of the same frustrations and mistakes and doubts and mishaps as in any office, in any job. Which also means sometimes you're gonna cuss a little bit because stuff's frustrating.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Working out was important. You know, we'd get those workouts in sometimes. You know, a dear friend of ours who was also a trainer, Cornell McClellan, we'd get the boxing gloves out. It didn't seem too fun. There's a lot of older people in the White House. Like you can't just say, let's play a pickup game. Those guys will pass out.
Starting point is 00:50:43 This is true. Now I had my weekend game though with Reggie Luck. Right. Who, you know, and Reggie at that time was, you know, probably he had just turned 30. He wasn't posting up Joe Biden. And so, no, we couldn't play in the White House. We had a regular game.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Reggie had his crew. And so we had regular basketball games. You know, a lot of times, though, you would just try to take the long view in dealing with frustrations. If Mitch McConnell and the Republicans were blocking something for no reason, if they were playing games that actually had real consequences in terms of people being able to get health care or be able to get some relief from unemployment or what have you.
Starting point is 00:51:28 You know, you just had to remind yourself that you were in a long-term contest and there were going to be ups and downs at any given time. But that if you kept your eye on the ball, that, you know, sooner or later you could prevail. You know, in the Yes We Can chapter, you discuss how you were frustrated with the constant need to soften for white folks' benefit the blunt truths about race in this country. Do you still feel the need to do that after the last four years we witnessed? Well, I think we're all a little bit more open and aware.
Starting point is 00:52:05 And one of the things that I was really inspired by in the wake of tragedy was the response after George Floyd's murder. Because what you saw was not only people of all walks of life out there protesting. It wasn't just black folks. But when you looked at the polling, you actually saw that by a significant number,
Starting point is 00:52:37 many more white Americans were willing to acknowledge problems in the criminal justice system based on race. Why do we have to wait on them, though? Well... To speak our truth about it. You know, what this comes down to is how do you build coalitions to actually get stuff done? Because the truth of the matter is, is that in very few places are African-Americans a majority of the vote. You know, It's just simple math, right?
Starting point is 00:53:05 So, and right where we're sitting right now in Washington, DC, that would be the case, but there are not a lot of states and there are a handful of cities where just the black vote delivers the power then to actually bring about concrete change. So as a consequence, then you've got to pay attention to how other folks are feeling. That may be frustrating sometimes. And as I said, that's not the job of everybody. The job of a writer like a James Baldwin or a Ta-Nehisi Coates, the job of a preacher,
Starting point is 00:53:50 the job of an activist. When I was a community organizer, I'm thinking differently about what I'm communicating because I'm trying to mobilize a particular segment of my community, right? But when we are talking about politics, particularly at the state or federal levels, well, you need to be able to persuade some white folks who are not going to think like you. And you may want to say things exactly the way you want to say it, but they may not hear it.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Yikes. And if they don't hear it, then it's not gonna help you. I mean, listen, one thing that I think is absolutely important to recognize is that even people who are not in any way consciously anti-Black, they don't want to be seen as the bad person. They're always going to be a little defensive.
Starting point is 00:54:57 That's human nature. In the same way, by the way, and, you know, Shalma, you may be able to relate to this more as a man. Like, you know, if women start talking to men about their issues, a lot of men will get very defensive very quickly and say, you know, that's not me. You know, I treat my woman good or, you know, I'm not the problem or et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:55:28 And if they're smart, they will listen and make adjustments. Yes. But the woman has to be allowed to be able to speak their truth to power. Of course. But, you know, listen. Listen, part of the book, you talk about that. That's what I was going to ask you next. Right. Right. You talk about the women on your team and them having issues with men interrupting them constantly and taking their ideas and making it their own. And as a matter of fact, if that was happening, they were feeling so intimidated by it that they didn't even want to speak anymore sometimes because of that. And that was something that you guys had to address. And I feel like that's something that happens in the
Starting point is 00:56:01 workplace all the time to this day. So. Absolutely. Part of what had to happen was the women had to bring it to me. Then we all had to talk about it. I had to get educated on what was happening because a lot of times this wasn't happening in front of me. As I said, the guys would be on their best behavior a lot of times in front of me. But in meetings where I wasn't in, suddenly you had some of these macho attitudes coming up. My point is, is that as we think about social change, whether we're talking about race, whether we're talking about gender,
Starting point is 00:56:31 whether we're talking about sexual orientation, you know, this stuff is deep in everybody, right? We all have all these attitudes that have been built up over time, what we learned from our parents, what we learned from our communities, our neighborhoods. And there are times where the best thing to do is just be blunt and say, you know what?
Starting point is 00:56:52 You know, you are being racist or you are being sexist. There are times where the better thing to do is, listen, I understand, you know, you've got your own issues and this is, you know, I think you mean well, but let me tell you, like, how this is interpreted by me. Right. And and in each of those situations, there's no formula. Right. You're trying to figure it out at any given time. How can I get other people to see my reality in a way that leads them to change their behavior, leads them to support changes in laws and institutions.
Starting point is 00:57:30 And, you know, but as you quoted, that's frustrating, right? You'd prefer not having to do this at all. You know, I'm not the first person to write about the fact that it is sometimes exhausting to feel as if you got to educate folks about just being treated normally and fairly. I prefer not having that legacy that we have to deal with. With reading this book and all that you did for every community, including our own community,
Starting point is 00:58:08 how do you take it when you hear, especially African-Americans and minorities say that, you know, they feel that President Barack didn't do enough for minorities, didn't do enough for black people? Black people. You know, what are your thoughts on that? I understand it because when I got elected, there was so much excitement and hope. And I also think that we generally view the presidency as almost like a monarchy in the sense of, well, once the president's there, he can just do whatever needs to get done.
Starting point is 00:58:44 And if he's not doing it, then it must be because he didn't want to do it. Well, we see it with Trump, though. So he does what he wants to do, so people assume. Well, right, because he breaks laws. Right. Or disregards the Constitution. But I think that anybody who goes into public life,
Starting point is 00:59:01 they need to understand that, yeah, you're gonna get criticized because that's just the nature of it. If they need to understand that, yeah, you're going to get criticized because that's just the nature of it. If you don't want that, then you shouldn't be in that business. The good news for me was that I was very confident in what I had done for Black folks because I had the statistics to prove it, right? So by the time I left office, you had seen 3 million African-Americans have health care that didn't have it before. You had seen the incarceration rate, the number of black folks in prison drop for the first time in years. You had seen the juvenile correction system, 30% fewer people in there. You had seen black poverty drop to its lowest level since 1968. You had seen black businesses rise. You had seen black income go up.
Starting point is 01:00:07 So I could just look at the data and I could say millions of black folks were better off at the time I left office than when I came in. And what I have to accept, and I think what any I have to accept, and I think what any president has to accept is the fact that, okay, so I got 20 million people healthcare, but there's still 10 million out there
Starting point is 01:00:34 who don't have healthcare because Republicans blocked me from doing everything I wanted to do with Obamacare because some states didn't, you know, accept Medicaid dollars, even though it wasn't going to cost them a dime just because they wanted to do with Obamacare, because some states didn't, you know, accept Medicaid dollars, even though it wasn't going to cost them a dime just because they wanted to oppose me. So if you were black and you're one of those 10 million who didn't get health care because they live in a state that didn't accept the money we were giving them, I can understand why they would be upset.
Starting point is 01:01:05 How come things didn't change? I think people want to know, like what did you do specifically for black people? Not the rising tide lifts all boats types of rhetoric. Cause we all know black people's boat got a hole in it. So the systemic things that were done to black people to put us in these positions, we need specific systemic things to get us out.
Starting point is 01:01:22 So what did you do? What I'm saying charlemagne is black poverty dropped faster than everybody else black incomes went up more than a lot of other folks so you know the issue is sometimes we just didn't go around advertising that because once again the goal here is to build coalitions where everybody is getting something so that they all feel like they've got a stake in it. But a lot of my policies were targeted towards people most in need.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Those folks are disproportionately African American. Now, there are some things that, for example, us having a civil rights division in the Justice Department that actually took seriously civil rights and imposed consent decrees on places like Ferguson and changed sentencing guidelines so that we didn't max out on sentencing for all nonviolent drug offenses, but changed the incentives so that prosecutors were judged not by how long of a sentence you got, but did you get a
Starting point is 01:02:33 proportional sentence? Was it a fair sentence? Those kinds of changes that we made, that's why I say there's a reason why the federal prison population dropped. By the way, at the same time, the crime also dropped, right? So we were able to show that you can have a smart strategy in terms of reducing crime without expanding incarceration. But the truth of the matter is, shall I mean Maynard, at the end of the day, there is no way in eight years to make up for 200 years. Absolutely. And the question is constantly, how are you going to, you know, the way I've been describing it, because it's very much how I understand the
Starting point is 01:03:27 presidency now, you're like a relay runner. You know, you're getting the baton from somebody else and all you can do is run your stage of the race and then you pass it on to the next person. And on either side, both who you got the it from and who you're passing it to, they may not have the same priorities that you do. You know that you're not going to get everything done that you need to get done. But what you got to do is do your best to get as much done as possible. And I think that's what we did. Would you say that your intention with this book was to explain to people also how difficult it was for you to get things passed and for people to see what you did do? Because like you said in the book, a lot of times it's not your policies and what you do, it's more what you say and the feeling that people have and that's what they pay
Starting point is 01:04:17 attention to. So absolutely. Look, let's take something like the Recovery Act. So I walk in, the day I walk in, we're losing 800,000 jobs a month. The economy is actually contracting faster than it did during the Great Depression. And six months later, the economy was growing again and we had kind of stopped the free fall. But if you're somebody who had lost your job at that point
Starting point is 01:04:46 or lost your house, you're not feeling good. And we couldn't go around saying, patting ourselves on the back saying, look at what a great job we did because people are still hurting out there. Our hope, if somebody reads this, they come to recognize if we want to bring about systemic change,
Starting point is 01:05:08 there are a whole bunch of different pressure points that we have to apply. It's not just the presidency. So I write extensively about the fact that I have a lot of power as president. I'm the most powerful person as president, but I still need a Congress. I still need to make sure that we have a majority in the House of Representatives, because if I don't, I can't get a single law passed. If I want to change something on criminal justice reform,
Starting point is 01:05:34 it turns out that the federal government isn't actually in charge of most criminal law. Most criminal law is made at the state level and determined by state prosecutors. Most police departments, the federal government has nothing to do with. That's determined by the mayor in that city. Whether they're prosecuted when they do something wrong, that's up to the state's attorney or district attorney in that area. So when we think about politics, it is a mistake for us to say, okay, once I'm, I voted for president, I'm done.
Starting point is 01:06:10 And I hope people don't repeat that mistake with Biden and Kamala Harris. Right now, we've got two seats in Georgia coming up. If the Republicans win those two seats, then Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will not be able to get any law passed that Mitch McConnell and the Republicans aren't willing to go along with. Well, you got to do a better job of letting people know, hey, I wanted to do a lot more for people, especially black people, but I couldn't because Mitch McConnell was blocking me every chance he got. Well, that's why I wrote the book.
Starting point is 01:06:39 That's why. But everybody, everybody ain't going to read. That's all I'm saying. Hopefully they'll see all these interviews. That's why I got you, man. I hear some people going to read. That's all I'm saying. Hopefully they'll see all these interviews. That's why I got you, man. Come on. I hear some people listen to you. And since you're talking about Georgia with Warnock,
Starting point is 01:06:51 I see they're giving him issues about his alliance with Jeremiah Wright. It's the same kind of stuff. Would you tell him he should step back and denounce him at this point? No. Look, first of all, it is a losing game at this stage to just go chasing crazy commentary. You know, there's some things you have to answer aggressively, but you can't obsess over it. Reverend Warnock is doing a great job.
Starting point is 01:07:18 If I'm him, I'm going to be emphasizing what am I positively going to do on behalf of the people of Georgia as opposed to just trying to play defense against a bunch of crazy stuff that's coming out there. But listen, it's hard winning in Georgia, just like it's hard winning in Iowa, just like it's hard winning in a lot of the country. And one thing I think that I hope the book also reminds us of, you know, those of us not have a, a, a good enough sense of how big this country is and how a lot of folks do not
Starting point is 01:08:13 accept at all things that we who are living in urban metropolitan areas just take for granted. I'm from South Carolina. I know. Yeah. I mean, it's, you know, you go, there are big chunks of the country, even in our own communities, right? I mean, so I deeply believe that people should be treated equally under the law, regardless of sexual orientation.
Starting point is 01:08:38 I was shocked you talked about that in the book. But we all, you know, I mean, I think there are big chunks of our community where that's still controversial. People were surprised about a lot of Hispanic folks who voted for Trump. the fact that Trump says racist things about Mexicans or puts detainees, undocumented workers in cages, they think that's less important than the fact that he supports their views on gay marriage or abortion, right? It's hard to believe when you say this,
Starting point is 01:09:22 but then you look at the way the government is ran, right? You talk about, for instance, you look at these big businesses and you look at their taxes and they don't pay taxes at all. And then you look at somebody who is just getting by paying as much tax as possible. And you look at, for instance, the pandemic task force that you created. And then you see Trump come in office and he shuts that down. And then you think to yourself, damn, if that task force was still around with so many people have been dead, been killed, would we be able to save lives? We would have saved some lives.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Here's one simple statistic. Canada, right next door, their death rate is 40% of what ours is per capita. I don't, you know, So for every 100 Americans that have died, only 40 Canadians have died. And that's just a matter of their government making better decisions. So the question, though, is that you still
Starting point is 01:10:20 had 70 billion people voting for a government that I would say objectively has failed miserably in handling just basic looking after the American people and keeping them safe. Why is that? Well, part of it is because, you know, it turns out politics is not just about policy. It's not just about numbers. It's about the stories that are that are being told. And that story that they're hearing from Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and, you know, in some cases inside their churches is that, you know, Democrats don't believe in Christmas and, you know, only care about minorities and black folks and are trying to take your stuff and trying to take your guns away. And, right, there's a whole story
Starting point is 01:11:14 that's being told to them. And people end up feeling as if, you know what, we are under attack. What's always interesting to me is the degree to which we've created, you've seen created in Republican politics, this sense that white males are victims. They're the ones who are under attack, which obviously doesn't jibe with both history and data and economics,
Starting point is 01:11:45 but that's a sincere belief. You know, that's been internalized. That's a story that's being told and how you unwind that is going to be not something that is done right away. It's going to take some time. But we heard some rumors in this book. Wait a minute. How different? Cause you know, when I hear that, I'm like, damn, it feels like we're catering to white racists all the time. So I wonder how different would the Dems strategy be if we lived in a one man, one the same number of senators as California with 33 million people, right? So what that means is that the U.S. Senate is hugely skewed towards some of these lower population, you know, more rural, much wh wider states than the big coastal states.
Starting point is 01:12:47 And that's a big difference in terms of getting stuff done. So the bottom line is, is that our democracy is imperfect. Changing that is going to take a lot of effort because you've got to get over the hump, even just to secure our voting rights. One of the things that is still at stake at Georgia is if we control the Senate, then it is at least theoretically possible to pass
Starting point is 01:13:30 a voting rights bill that stops some of this voter suppression and intimidation that you're still seeing around the country. And that Republicans have been pretty blatant about just saying, look, we just, we're trying to prevent them from voting. But getting to the electoral college, getting to the way that the US Senate is skewed, that would require us also potentially admitting Washington DC and Puerto Rico in as states,
Starting point is 01:13:59 so that, you know, which has its own politics, you know, it would mean having states change how they do their electoral counts. I think the Constitution is outdated. Yeah, three-fifths, they got to get rid of that language. The way that's diverse the country is, those people weren't at the table when they wrote the Constitution.
Starting point is 01:14:22 You're a constitutional lawyer. We got to get to changing that. Well, there is a way to change it. It table when they wrote the Constitution. You're a constitutional lawyer. We've got to get to changing that. Well, there is a way to change it. It's called amending the Constitution. The problem is that in order to do that, we have to have such an increase in awareness and activism. So there's a mechanism to amend the Constitution, but you just have to get everybody involved and focused in it. And this is part of the reason, you know, folks have been teasing me about how, you know, man, that's a long book. And, you know, Michelle me just leave out this explanation or that explanation because folks, you know, they're not going to necessarily want to read all that.
Starting point is 01:15:11 But part of what I wanted to do was just say, man, this is the stuff that we've got to know if we really want to change stuff. Like you have to know about the filibuster in the Senate. Right. So this is a rule that wasn't even in the constitution. This is just a rule that the Senate adopted that says you have to have 60 votes to pass legislation. You have to have a super majority. That even more empowers those little states, right? Cause now they don't even need 50 Senate votes. They just need
Starting point is 01:15:46 41 to basically block anything from getting through the Senate. That's what happened to me in my first two years, was I was having to get to 60 votes on everything, which meant that the number of senators that were basically representing 25% of the country had a veto power over anything we want to try to get done. But most people don't know that. You know, if you try to explain to the average brother in the barbershop, man, that filibuster, that's something. I just thought it when people talk for a long time. Yeah, well, but- I learned about it in the book.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Well, exactly. But that thing is, which by the way, had its roots. The thing that it was most used for was to block civil rights legislation and anti-lynching legislation. And that thing is still operating. We have to know how that stuff works in order for us, if we really want the kind of changes you're talking about, where taking away some of these
Starting point is 01:16:53 barriers to everybody having their voice heard in government. President Obama has to go, guys. So we're glad you cleared up some rumors, though. And listen, congratulations, 890,000 sold on the first day, which is breaking all kinds of records. So it just shows the power that you still have. You got a little name out here. First of all, I think it's because it was packaged with Michelle's book. So, you know, and but I appreciate you guys. You know, you talked about black folks and how they talked about or thought about my presidency.
Starting point is 01:17:28 I will say, even at our lowest point, the amount of loyalty and folks having our back, knowing, you know, that we were going through some, you know, challenges, the prayer that we got, the blessings we received from our own, that is as much as anything what helped sustain us. It is something we never took for granted and we were always grateful for. So one last question. What do Democrats owe black people specifically? What do you think?
Starting point is 01:18:03 Especially after what we just did in this past election. Well, look, I think that Democrats and Republicans and America owe Black folks the same thing that all people are owed, which is justice and fairness. The difference is, is that for Black folks, that justice has been deferred and denied for too long, or it's been half-baked and insufficient. We've never done a full reckoning of what was part of the essential history and building of this country. And I think in concrete terms,
Starting point is 01:18:51 I don't want to overstate what Joe and Kamala are going to be able to accomplish in this congressional environment with that much resistance, because they're going to be in a position that's probably even tougher than the one that I came in. But what I can say is, I think at the very minimum, everything they put forward, from jobs programs to small business loans to education, to college debt issues, that they have to be mindful that the African American community put faith in them, to hear them and to understand
Starting point is 01:19:37 what ordinary folks are going through every day, working hard, trying to make it, and that they shouldn't be making a decision without knowing, all right, this is going to have an impact on some of those struggles to make people and their families a little more secure, a little bit better. It's not going to make things perfect, but if at the end of Joe Biden's presidency and Kamala's presidency, he too can say what I was able to say, which is people's lives are better. You know, at the end of the day, that's what you expect out of politicians. Is there a morally correct way to do what Trump did?
Starting point is 01:20:17 Which is? As far as like, you know, catering to his base, you know, doing what he felt was best for his folks. Is there a morally correct way to do that? Get more votes. I mean, the truth of the matter is actually Trump hasn't gotten a lot. He's torn some stuff down. There's no law that he's passed that is transformative in this country. He passed a tax cut to give away some more money to rich folks,
Starting point is 01:20:41 which Republicans have been doing that for years. But you can't name a piece of legislation that he's done that has actually changed the country, even for his own constituencies. So it's always easier to tear down than build up. Building up, that requires votes. And that's why I do not, I will come on this show every time if I hear folks say voting doesn't matter. Yeah, voting will not,
Starting point is 01:21:13 it's not like winning the lottery. You don't vote and then suddenly everything's great. Voting is more like, you know, washing your car or ironing your clothes. It's part of the thing you do to make stuff work. And it's part of your responsibility. And it's part of all of our responsibility just to make sure that we don't see chaos
Starting point is 01:21:41 of the sort that we've just seen over the last four years. All right, guys. Well, we appreciate you for joining us, President Barack Obama. Thank you. I enjoyed it. Yes, sir. Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:21:50 You look happy and relaxed now. You know, I feel pretty good. All right. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. Hey, morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Now, usually I do donkey It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Now, usually I do donkey of the day right here, but I'm not even supposed to be here today. The only reason I'm here is because, you know, of what you just heard. You know, we had to go down to D.C. on Monday and kick it with Fofo, okay, President Barack Obama. Yes. So we came in to stay in that conversation. And as we have been saying, that book is 700 pages. But I read the whole book. I read the whole book too. And it did explain,
Starting point is 01:22:28 it did explain a lot, you know, just a lot of things that Barack Obama was trying to do when he was in the White House. You sound like you're frying a turkey.
Starting point is 01:22:35 You're frying a turkey? I think you gotta reset, yeah. You sound like you're frying a turkey. You shouldn't do that in the house, by the way. You gotta reset. Take the deep fryer in,
Starting point is 01:22:41 well, you're in Brooklyn, or in the back, and dump it then. Yeah, but the book was over 700 pages. I started reading the book, and then, I mean, it was so long, I had to buy the audio book. Well, I have a technique, right? My technique is I read when I'm at home, and when I'm in the car, I listen to Audible. But I'm going to tell you another technique that I do.
Starting point is 01:23:02 I put the speed to 1.4 when I'm at home. I did that too. And I read the book as well as listen to the person recite the book. Right. And it was 29 hours long of him reciting the book. Even sped up? Sped up, I think it was like 27. I don't remember how long it was.
Starting point is 01:23:21 You know what I realized? I absorb information when I'm reading. Yo, you frying a turkey on the radio. I know Thanksgiving is tomorrow, but you have to stop. You might have to reset the whole thing. So people ask, how was the room? How many Secret Service people were there? Was Michelle Obama there? Well, it was in one of the ballrooms in the hotel.
Starting point is 01:23:43 The Kennedy Ballroom. Shout to Crystal, who was the person that set this up. Dropping the clues bombs for Crystal. And made sure everything came together. Dropping the clues bombs for Stephanie, too. Stephanie Young. Stephanie as well. It wasn't too many people there.
Starting point is 01:23:54 I think it may have been maybe two, three people from his staff. I see maybe two Secret Service people. And it was just him. He came in happy, smiling, sat down. He was very polite. He was joking. Smelled like cigarettes. No, I'm making that up. He came in happy, smiling, sat down. He was very polite. He was joking. Smelled like cigarettes. No, I'm making that up.
Starting point is 01:24:08 He didn't smell like no damn cigarettes. I'm making that up. He didn't smell like no damn cigarettes. Making that up. He didn't smell like cigarettes. But if you read the book, you know, he was at one point, he was smoking 10 cigarettes a day. Yeah. Until he got on that nicotine gun.
Starting point is 01:24:19 But, you know, go buy the book. But even I know behind the scenes when he was leaving, I asked him, because in the book, when you read the book, I'll tell you a little bit, he was saying that Republicans were making so many rumors up about him. They said that, one, he wasn't born here in the U.S. We know that one. Another one that he was a drug dealer. It's a good one. And the last one is that he was a gay male prostitute.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Which Envy couldn't wait to ask. And he asked behind the scenes, which says a lot. What does it say? The interview was over. I'm just saying, exactly. The interview was over. We haven't even on camera. Do we have a clip of it when I did ask him?
Starting point is 01:24:50 Play it. What made you laugh more when he said that you were a drug dealer or a gang member prostitute? Let me just say, that was fine, but Michelle was fine. She's still mad about it. Then if he said, damn, it's not true. I didn't say that, damn. He was so disappointed. I didn't say that. She's still mad about it. Then Envy said, damn, it's not true. Shut up, I didn't say that, damn. He was so disappointed. I didn't say that.
Starting point is 01:25:08 He had a handful of money. He was ready. I was like, your room's right upstairs. I didn't tell her. I did. But he was a good sport. He was laughing. He was like, shh.
Starting point is 01:25:19 I don't know if it's funny. He said, Michelle didn't find it funny at all. But, you know, he was a good guy. He didn't take anything personal. And hopefully we'll get to speak with him again and maybe interview him again. But, you know, he was a good guy. He didn't take anything personal. And hopefully we'll get to speak with him again and maybe interview him again. Well, that's a part two of the book coming up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:33 You know, because A Promised Land only covers the first four years. Correct. So I'm not going to tell you how it ends, but, you know, it only covers the first four years. Right. And we want to take your phone calls. I mean, you just heard, what, 45 minutes? How long was that interview? 48.
Starting point is 01:25:45 48 minutes of President Barack Obama with the Breakfast Club. What are your thoughts? 800-585-1051. We sure have. We've come a long way. Slew to everybody that was with us in the beginning when I was on
Starting point is 01:25:55 this radio talking about sucking farts out of people's butts. Vintage vaginas. Thank God for growth and evolution. Sniffing people's chairs.
Starting point is 01:26:03 Yeah, we were pretty bad. Yeah. But we changed. All right. Yeah, we were pretty bad. Yeah. But we changed. Alright. No, we grew. It's a difference. Alright. Okay. See what I'm saying? What? What's on your mind? What's on your mind? I'm opening up
Starting point is 01:26:15 the phone line. Is that all you want to open this morning? We just said we grew up. We just said we evolved. We did. And you're going back. We did. 800-585-1051 is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine.
Starting point is 01:26:44 I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that?
Starting point is 01:27:14 Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens.
Starting point is 01:28:07 So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So y'all, this is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on
Starting point is 01:28:38 with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama
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Starting point is 01:30:12 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion with The Breakfast Club. Talk about it. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, we played a 48-minute interview we did with President Barack Obama. Now, listen, it's very important to note that on December 6th, it'll be 10 years of The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Next Sunday. Next Sunday. We're never here during the week of this white man's holiday, which is Thanksgiving. We're never here. We haven't been here in 10 years. We only came in today because we had this conversation with President Barack Obama on Monday that we aired this morning. Yep.
Starting point is 01:30:49 What's your thoughts? Shout to my mama. My mama, this is the first. My mama don't usually text me this early in the morning unless there's a problem or situation. My mama said, I just listened to the interview
Starting point is 01:30:56 and I'm very proud of you. It was great. My Aunt V texted me this morning as well. So thank you, my family. Did she hear the question that you asked him about being a gay male prostitute? What?
Starting point is 01:31:06 She might not have heard that part. She probably didn't hear that part, but let's not remind her. Let's go to the phone lines. Hello, who's this? This is Deshawn. What's up, y'all? What's up, Deshawn? What's going on, bro?
Starting point is 01:31:15 Deshawn, what's happening, King? Chillin', chillin'. What did you think of the interview, bro? Yo, I thought it was great. I really did. I learned a lot of things that I didn't even learn in high school. I'm definitely about to go grab the book because it's all about education. You know, they're not teaching.
Starting point is 01:31:30 The things that he's saying and then the things that he's writing in the book, they're not teaching us. So that's the only way that anybody is ever going to learn any of this stuff. Self-education and then learning from someone who's been through these things and going through the things and stuff like that. I agree. Thank you, brother. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 01:31:49 This is Tisha. What's going on, DJ Envy? What's up, Tisha? Good morning. Happy Thanksgiving. Happy White Man's Holiday, Tisha. Happy Thanksgiving. Hi, Charlamagne.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Hi, Angela. We trying to get you back on. Tisha. So what did you think? What were your thoughts on the interview? I think, first I want to like, you know, President Obama
Starting point is 01:32:08 for taking the time out, 48 minutes is, you know, quite some time for a man, you know, of his stature. And they just kind of
Starting point is 01:32:16 like educating people. And Charlamagne, you know, I appreciate you for asking serious questions. You know, sometimes you get like a little flack sometimes,
Starting point is 01:32:24 but I think you kind of like put the gas to him a little bit and force him to. You know, sometimes you get, like, a little flack sometimes, but I think you kind of, like, put the gas to them a little bit and force them to, you know, answer questions that the black people wanted to hear. I think it's unfortunate that black people sometimes, we don't really educate ourselves. We just go with what is said, and we follow it, and then we spread it, and a lot of times it's hate. But, you know, think that obama could only
Starting point is 01:32:46 do so much like he said and i think that what he did do was just enough and we need to also give him you know praise i appreciate him shouting out you know god and saying you know his prayers is what really got him through you know i really I really, really appreciate President Obama. I appreciate both of you guys. Have a safe holiday. And, you know, just love on your family more. We will. Thank you so much. We appreciate you so much, Tisha. Thank you. Hello, who's this? Rico. Rico, what's up, brother?
Starting point is 01:33:16 Rico! Woke up gorilla. Rico gorilla. Woke up gorilla. Woke up gorilla. Hashtag, it's me again. I was on with y'all last week. Okay. Well, what did you think about the Barack Obama interview? You weren't memorable, Rico.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Yeah, I'm sorry, Charlamagne. Be quiet. So, Barack Obama, hearing him, I just want to say real quick, my dad met Barack when he was running for senator, and he asked my dad for a Newport. That's what's up. That's what I'm talking about. So you got a real shit.
Starting point is 01:33:48 So I just wanted to say I listen to y'all every day, man. Y'all really, really upgrading every day. Y'all getting better. When I heard him on the radio and I turned my car on, I was just like, damn, I can't move. I was like, you know, I ain't get out the car. I sat there the whole time to listen to it. I don't know, man. You guys are doing great. Thank you, brother. I can't get out the car. I sat there the whole time to listen to it. I don't know, man. You guys are doing great.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Thank you, brother. I can't wait to hear. Yeah, I can't wait to y'all edit it and put it on YouTube so I can share it. Oh, we're not editing it? It's up right now. Oh, you mean like the clip? Yeah, we posting clips on social media now. My grandma and grandpa, 82 years old, and they listen to you guys.
Starting point is 01:34:21 Hey, appreciate that. Man, I'm going to get your granddaddy some Bluetooth for Christmas, man. Yeah, follow me. Izzo underscore 85. All right,
Starting point is 01:34:31 brother. All right, brother. All right, brother. Man, let the man shout out his clique. All right,
Starting point is 01:34:35 brother. Love you back. Bye, brother. Let him give his page. He be so petty. Let the man shout out his people. I'm not petty.
Starting point is 01:34:41 800-585-1051. We just played our interview with President Barack Obama. 48 minutes long. What were your thoughts? Call us up. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. I ain't no way, man.
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Starting point is 01:35:03 800-585-1051. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, we're talking about our interview with President Barack Obama. It just aired 48 minutes long. Yeah, man. I mean, we took time out of our busy schedules, you know, to sit down with a fan.
Starting point is 01:35:26 You know what I mean? To sit down with a man who's a fan of the Breakfast Club. You know what I'm saying? This is... Listen, this is a giving season, right? We gotta do some charity out here. You know what I mean? Hello, who's this? Bro, this is Ed from Jersey City. What's up? What's up, bro? Ed, what's happening,
Starting point is 01:35:41 King? Interview with President Barack Obama, bro. Look, I'm coming back from Walmart, right? I'm parking a car. I turn on the radio real quick. It's Obama. I'm like, what? And he on 105.1. I'm like, all right.
Starting point is 01:35:55 Yo, I loved it, man. I loved it, bro. It was so educational. I think we need more of that, like the part on the Senate. You know, like where I live at in Jersey City, the turnout is always so big during the presidential election and then nobody comes out and votes no other time. So it was so important.
Starting point is 01:36:12 And then Angela, you were so sweet when you interjected with the violence against women in the workplace, you know, in the professional environment. That was so sweet. Obama was like, the guys, it was pretty much all right under my radar, but then when I step away, you got them a cheesy
Starting point is 01:36:28 more attitude. We have that so much. And I just appreciate that interview, bro. I really did. Thank you, King. Thank you, brother.
Starting point is 01:36:36 Peace, bro. Peace. Hello, who's this? This is Aisha from Indy. Aisha from Indy. What's happening? Good morning. Good morning. I love you guys. Good morning. We love you, bro. Good morning from Indy. What's happening? Good morning. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:36:45 I love you guys. Good morning. We love you. Good morning. Ayesha, what's happening? Hey, Uncle Charlotte. I got seven uncles, and you are by far my best uncle. My favorite.
Starting point is 01:36:54 I appreciate that. Thank you very much. Hey, so about Obama. So I'm a black woman in human resources, right? So when I'm at work, I got to turn it on. My family knows when I'm at work, they make me turn it off, right? So I got my work voice, and then I got, at work, I'm Aisha. At home, I'm Aisha.
Starting point is 01:37:12 I feel like I thoroughly enjoyed the interview, y'all. Y'all are the most dangerous breakfast to a morning show. We get it. But I wanted a little bit more Barry. You wanted a little more Barry? That's Barack. That's the politician. Yeah, you know, I know he's got a legacy to uphold.
Starting point is 01:37:25 I get that. But I kind of wanted a little bit more Barry. A more human side? Yeah, I did. I felt like he stuck with Obama. You know, he was still professional. He did everything right. We will always love him.
Starting point is 01:37:36 But I just wanted a little bit more. I wanted to know him a little bit more personally. I'm going to be honest with you. I think that's who he is. Like, even if you read his book, don't get me wrong. Like, he smokes or he used to smoke. He drinks. You know, he curses.
Starting point is 01:37:48 But I think for the most part, that's who he is. He's like, he's that kind of person. Like, he shows up in the world in that way. You know, always looking to say the right thing. That's right. Moving the right way. I mean, come on. He's a black man.
Starting point is 01:38:01 Taking a high road. Yeah, he's a black man who didn't have no scandal. Think about that. Right. His only scandal was wearing a tan suit. That was his only scandal. Well, I'm getting his book. I haven't gotten it, but I'm with you guys.
Starting point is 01:38:13 I think now I'm going to get an audio. Yes. Well, thank you so much, mama. Thank you. Y'all have a good day. Peace. All right. Well, the full interview you can check out on the Breakfast Club YouTube page.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Right now, we'll be playing clips on our personal social media. So you can definitely check those out. But definitely check out the full interview, man. I think that's a great way to end the year. Our 10-year anniversary is in six weeks. Yeah, actually. I mean, listen. Honestly, I got a lot of vacation days.
Starting point is 01:38:39 I don't have to come back after this week if I want to. You know what I'm saying? Touche. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. You feeling froggy? Jump. Let's do it. Listen, all jokes aside, it was a great conversation. It was.
Starting point is 01:38:53 I really enjoyed sitting down with the 44th president of the United States of America, President Barack Obama. And I just feel like that was a culmination of everything that we've been doing the past couple of years as far as like having these conversations with these politicians. I think black political culture
Starting point is 01:39:09 is something that I want to continue to push even when it's not an election cycle. Everybody gets excited when it's the presidential election but what about the midterms? What about local elections? I just think that's something we have to add to our repertoire. Absolutely. And another thing we keep on saying is also making sure that you know that just because you voted, it's not over after that.
Starting point is 01:39:30 You still have work to do and you have to hold politicians accountable. It's not that you just expect them to hand you things. You have to be part of that process. Absolutely. Well, y'all want to do rumors when we come back? Are y'all ready to get about it? What y'all want to do now? I'm with whatever.
Starting point is 01:39:44 We can leave right now if you want. Listen, I think we should talk about Dave Chappelle and his unforgiving that he just put up. I think we need to discuss that too along with this, after this interview. Alright, we'll leave it right after that. We'll do that when we come back. We'll leave it right after that. Right after the mix. Alright, so don't move. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:40:00 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's about time. What's going on? Rumor Report. Rumor Report. This is the Rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. All right. Well, Dave Chappelle posted
Starting point is 01:40:17 another, I don't know if you would call it a stand-up, but it's called Unforgiven, and it's about 20 minutes long, and he talks about the Chappelle show being on Netflix, but it's called Unforgiven, and it's about 20 minutes long, and he talks about the Chappelle show being on Netflix, but he wasn't getting any money from it. You know, he said that previously. Well, here's what he had to say. I like working for Netflix because when all those bad things happened to me, that company didn't even exist, and when I found out they were streaming Chappelle's show, I was furious. So you know what I did?
Starting point is 01:40:45 I called them and I told them that this makes me feel bad. And do you want to know what they did? They agreed that they would take it off their platform just so I could feel better. That's why I f***ed with Netflix. Well, Netflix was smart to do that because they don't want to ruin any future business with Dave Chappelle. Absolutely. So that was a smart move. Very smart move.
Starting point is 01:41:06 Yeah, they're in business with him now. It's interesting how he said that he approached them about it and how that happened and he wants to make sure other people aren't watching it. It's a weird thing because you want people to watch the show and appreciate it, but not when you're not getting money from it. He asked a question
Starting point is 01:41:22 in Unforgiven that I thought was a very fair question. He said, you know, what they're doing is legal because he did sign the contract. But is it right? That's a great question. All right, here's what he had to say about the boycott. I called my agent. I said, is there anything I can do about this show?
Starting point is 01:41:40 And he said, no. If you want something done right, I guess you got to do it yourself. So I'm not going to the agents. I'm coming to my real boss. I'm coming to you. I'm begging you. If you ever liked me, if you ever think there was anything worthwhile about me, I'm begging you. Please don't watch that show.
Starting point is 01:41:59 I'm not asking to boycott any network. Boycott me. Boycott Chappelle's show. Do not watch it unless they pay me. And you know what else is interesting? It does play on other things besides Netflix. You know, it's on HBO Max, and they are still streaming the show right now,
Starting point is 01:42:15 and it's been on Comedy Central. It's been playing, so. You know, another thing he said that stood out to me is when he compared it to Three Card Molly, and he said, you know, he realized he couldn't win at Three Card Molly because all of the people he thought was just innocent bystanders were all in on it. Three Card Monty. That just happened to me.
Starting point is 01:42:32 I said, what the hell is Three Card Molly? I don't know. He was taking drugs. Whatever. Whatever they did to rob people in New York. But that's something very important to look out for. You got to make sure that your lawyer, your agent, your management, you got to make sure they all aren't in cahoots with each other. Correct. You know what I mean? Yep.
Starting point is 01:42:48 Alright. And in good news, it looks like Jeremiah has been taken off of a ventilator and he's starting to recover. So that's a positive thing. That's great. Yes. So let's hope that everything with that turns out okay. And now let's talk about Hitmaker, aka Youngberg. Now he was on Drink Champs and he had some
Starting point is 01:43:03 things to say about Notorious from Power and from 3LW and a past relationship that he says that they had that she says never happened. Well, when he was on lip service, here's what he had to say to apologize to Notori. And myself, I would say, too, we didn't like that interview you just did. I think you could tell the story, but you don't have to say who it is. After I did it, I literally hit Nori like, yo, I don't want this out. I don't want to come out. Please edit it.
Starting point is 01:43:28 I will pay for whatever will go on. I felt bad about the fact, you know what I'm saying, after the fact. But I mean, you know, it is my truth. Like, you know what I'm saying? But I didn't want it to come out like that. And I knew they was going to clip it up and make it like a thing like that. And I asked them not to, but they did it anyway. And I apologize once again to her. I wish it never came that. And I asked them not to, but they did it anyway. And I apologize once again to her.
Starting point is 01:43:46 I wish it never came out. And I'm sorry about it, for real. He said he asked Nori to take that out, right? Yeah, he did say that he asked Nori to take it out. And actually, Nori said he wants to talk about that, too, because I guess he has his own side. After this interview came out, everybody hit me up. We should call Nori.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Yeah, he asked for that to happen. So he did apologize to Notori, but it should have never happened. And I said, as I said before, in the breakfast club, we didn't play the actual clip because it is disappointing to hear that. Does Notori accept his apology? I don't know if he's directly apologized to her, but I think she thought it was whack. And she said that she has never slept with him.
Starting point is 01:44:25 Oh, so he lied? That's what she's saying, yes. You said you didn't want to play the clip because why? I just thought it was extremely offensive. Oh. You should call Nori. All right, well, that is your Rumor Report. I'm Angela Yee.
Starting point is 01:44:38 All right, thank you, Miss Yee. All right, now when we come back, we got the People's Choice Mix. Get your request in 800-585-1051. Y'all want to call Nori? We got time. Yeah, we'll call Nori. After the mix, we'll call Nori, try to get Nori on, see if Nori answers. So don't move.
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Starting point is 01:45:08 pleasure, and, of course, protection. Live large, expect the best, Magnum large-sized condoms. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Again, thank you to Crystal. Thank you to Stephanie. Salute to Crystal Carson.
Starting point is 01:45:23 Salute to Stephanie Young. You know, my you to Crystal. Salute to Crystal Carson. Salute to Stephanie Young. You know, my partners. Yeah. For connecting the dots. President Barack Obama. For President Barack Obama. And thank us, man. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:45:34 Thank the goddamn Breakfast Club. Thank DJ Envy, Angelina, and Charlamagne Tha God for putting themselves in a position in 10 years to where the 44th president of the United States of America felt like this is a place he needed to come to talk about a promised land. Okay? Let's give ourselves some credit as well.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Thank you to Crystal Carson and Stephanie Young for connecting those dots. Yes. Making it happen. Thank you to President Barack Obama. He was like two, three minutes late. We almost decided not to do the interview because he was running a little late. I was happy he was on CP time. No, he didn't.
Starting point is 01:46:09 I was happy he was on CP time. Why? Because he's black. Oh. Felt good. No, his schedule was jam-packed, though. He was doing a lot of different things. So I know stuff went over.
Starting point is 01:46:19 We went over. Yeah, we definitely went over. So it was just a great interview. So shout out to, again, his whole team and President Barack Obama. It's a great way to celebrate 10 years. It'll be 10 years on December 6th for this old Breakfast Club. Yep. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:46:35 We've grown and we've evolved a lot. From our very first guest being Ray J to today interviewing President Barack Obama. Life is good. Isn't God good? God is so great. But you got to be open to growth and evolution. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:46:48 People limit themselves because they box themselves. And, you know, you can't be afraid to grow. You can't be afraid to evolve. Yep. You're right. You're right. All right. Well, when we come back, positive note, don't move.
Starting point is 01:46:58 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela E, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Don't forget this Saturday is my virtual car show, all right? Something I put together myself where you can use your iPhone, your iPad, your droid, your computer to check out, you know, close to 100 cars.
Starting point is 01:47:16 They're exotic cars, cars from the 90s era, regular cars, hyper cars, exclusive cars, all different things. You can go inside the cars. You can see every aspect of the car. And then there's short videos about the car, whether it's me talking to the celebrity or me talking to the owner of the car or me just explaining the car. Car show, it's amazing.
Starting point is 01:47:37 So definitely check it out. If you want more information, you can click the link in my bio. Do I need glasses or something? Nope, you can do it all from your phone. You don't need glasses or nothing like that. You can do it all interactively. We'll be tuned in. Like look through it through the phone?
Starting point is 01:47:48 What do you mean? Yeah, like so with your phone, you can go through the phone and you can move the phone and go to parts of the car. So you can go in the car. You can see the steering wheel. You can come back out, place the video, and everybody talking about the car. Are you walking through the virtual video too?
Starting point is 01:48:00 Yes. So what happens if I- If we tell you to twerk, will you twerk? Here it goes. Go ahead. Go ahead. No. Go ahead. It said it tell you to twerk, will you twerk? Here it goes. Go ahead. Go ahead. Show me. No.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Go ahead. It said it's easy to get inside the car. Correct. Inquiring minds want to know how easy it is to get inside DJ Envy on this virtual app. I'm not saying... You guys, I thought we just had an elevated day. This guy. And listen, after that car show, don't forget that Mike Tyson, Roy Jones Jr. fight is on
Starting point is 01:48:24 Saturday also. I can't wait. You hear me? Definitely happening? Yes. Yeah. It's a great weekend. Mike Tyson-Roy Jones fight.
Starting point is 01:48:30 I think it's the 25th year anniversary of Mary J. Blige, my life. The reason I know that is because my life came out on my wife's born day. And it's my wife's born day this weekend. So, yeah, it's great. Hey, listen, too, man. While everybody's at home taking advantage of Black Friday sales, please preorder Tamika Mallory's upcoming book. It's titled State of Emergency.
Starting point is 01:48:51 It's available wherever you preorder books right now. Okay? Support our sister. Our sister's always on the front lines fighting for us. So, you know, now is your turn to assist her. You know, people are always asking, how can I help on Tell Freedom? Well, this is one way, God damn it. All right?
Starting point is 01:49:07 Go out there and support Tamika Mallory, her new book, State of Emergency. It comes out May 11th, but it's available for preorder right now everywhere you buy books. So make sure you grab a copy of that. It's called State of Emergency, all right? Oh, so do my man, Mr. Todd, too, man. Hey, Mr. Todd, I'm going to meet Mr. Todd later today to pick up some sweet potato pies. Ain't nobody's sweet potato pie is better than Mr. Todd. Only president of sweet potato pie who remotely comes close is my grandma, God bless the dead, and my mother-in-law.
Starting point is 01:49:37 Mr. Todd's sweet potato pies are phenomenal. And I'm going to pick up a couple today for tomorrow. Suit to my man, Mr. Todd. You go ahead with that sweet potato pie. All right. Oh, I'm going to get something. Would you like a slice? No, I'm fine. Keeps on a positive note, man. The positive note is simply this, man.
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