The Breakfast Club - From Miami Moves to Chris Brown Drama & Mom Talk

Episode Date: April 30, 2026

Loren is live from Miami at the Accelerating Her conference and brings that boss energy straight into today’s episode. From powerful women and building your tribe to the reality behind leveling up, she sets the tone before diving into a spicy conversation. The Chris Brown & Usher tour is already causing tension—and not just online. Loren sits down with her guest Taylor to unpack the real-life relationship drama sparked by the tour, jealousy, girls trips, and whether men are doing too much. Then the convo takes a deeper turn: Serena Williams sparks debate about parenting and discipline, and Loren gets honest about how she was raised, generational differences, and what it really means to prepare kids for the real world.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I'm just really happy that I decided to come. It almost didn't happen because I thought, you know, I couldn't get out of work this week and just being out of studio and not being in the studio when it comes to breakfast club, I try to prioritize that. And then all of the, you know, the rich aunties, the OGs called me and was like, girl, what is wrong with you? You need to be in this room.

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they got the coin, the investments, the big jobs, like, they eating it up. So I am inspired. And I'm going to be talking about this so you guys will be too. So let's get on into the latest. Now, I have a special guest to hear with me on the latest today. And my special guest is here because I talked about this on the breakfast club some days ago. She is, you know, on the other side of this Chris Brown Usher tour conversation. So we talked a bit about Chris Brown responding to critics who has something to say about people going out to support his tour.

So what he, here's what he had to say. The funniest and weirdest shit ever to me is the fact that people have option to come to my tour and the option not to. I know everyone who was a fan of me and Usher will definitely be in a building and it will be packed just like

last year. Then he continues, but I'm scrolling through instant TikTok and I come across rage bait pages or these fake woke stand-up for nothing pages, bashing people for wanting to come out and have a good time the dudes hating and i can understand that thinking we're going to steal your girl but the karen's and the self-hating holes be making me laugh i can't wait to rub this in y'all face and then he put

three laughing emojis right now this tour is kicking off in the next month or so they're headed to like it's like over 30 cities that they're hitting i mean it's chris brown and usher i have seen chris brown and performance and it's breathtaking and i've also seen usher twice i saw usher at the Vegas residency, which was like, it was a, I've never experienced showmanship like that. And just the way he is on stage. And I also got to experience the tour version of that show when he did his tour. He was giving a cherries and doing all the things. Now, my guest on today's episode is not one of the self-hating hosts that are on TikTok.

She is on the side of getting a little pushback because she's going to the tour. And she's a Chris Brown fan. And she got a man. Welcome to the episode, our editor. I talk about her all the time. Ms. Taylor made it. Oh, yeah. So first, okay, talk to them about, you know,

where you're going to see the tour and how long you've been a Chris Brown fan? Chris Brown and Usher just Chris Brown that you're a fan of. Both of them. Okay, sure. Actually, interesting enough. Usher, I think, was like my first,

like, celebrity crush as a kid. Really? After his song. You skipped like Bow Wow, B-TK. Oh, no, I'm sorry, Babow, too. But the rest of us started there. But Ba'u wasn't there yet. I'm talking about like first hearing music

Like when I heard when I saw him on my way I was like who is that? And I'm like fucking I don't know maybe How am I? Maybe eight or so? I don't know. Either way. And then I'm a huge fan of Chris Brown

And I just think he's Super talented And both of them actually super talented Like this is a tour I've been waiting for Because even when it came to them Putting songs out I was like

Why are they not putting? more songs out. So I'm super excited. So I'm going to see them in New Orleans. Me and my bestie. So I'm looking forward to it. Good food and a good concert.

So I know Bay is not the happiest about that. And I mean, okay, so I was telling Taylor, right? Like, I know men, because even Charlemagne and Envy they'd be like, our wives are not going to go see Usher by themselves. Like, it's just not happening.

But it's, I mean, I don't, I just marry, Joe. Like, first of all, and second, too, like, Chris Brown don't want me either. Like, if we're going to be for real. Yeah. But I also am not also that girl to be, like, risk at all. And. Go chase it.

Because it's kind of crazy if I did that. If you think about it, like, all the celebrities we meet up here and, like, it's kind of crazy. I wouldn't do that. I think, okay, so here's what I was telling. and Taylor, right? Like, you know, as we're navigating the space because, and I can't speak for women who don't work in the

industry. I can only speak for on the other side because that's what we're experiencing. Like, even though you're not typically on the mic or typically in front of the camera, you are in the industry, you have been for some years, you work with really notable and respected voices and everything that you do with

imaging and your own production company, right? So you can pick up the phone and make some phone calls. So I think for Bay, this was I was telling her, it's the thing of okay it's already a girl's trip and the guys be slick hating when it's a girl's trip now you can't find your passport and you know the babysitter then anonymously canceled because bad and been like tell her you can't do it right all these things are happening because he doesn't want you to go because it's the girl's trip right but more so it's the thing that you could pick up the phone and end up backstage with the usher backstage with the chris brown and I know you so I know like that don't mean nothing to you like you could care less you see those people all the time and throughout the breakfast club, but I'm wondering how many people are also going through this in real life. Because when Chris Brown put that,

I thought that part of it was like, that was like the joking part of it. Yeah. I know people that are upset that people want to support Chris Brown because people so think that he should live in all of the consequence of, you know, the issues with Rihanna from some time ago. And then, you know, the things with crucci and all of that.

But, you know, so even female artists when they do songs with Usher, I mean, usher when they do songs with Chris Brown or when they stand up for him. I remember Kelly Rowland had that moment where she stood up for him at the, I believe it was the BET Awards. Yeah, they get pushed back.

It is a thing. But I didn't know in real life it's a thing of guys being like, no, you're not going to. You know, it's crazy. He came with me to this year's Chris Brown Cops. He's with you. It's different. Because it's not just about Chris Brown Usher and it's Taylor going to like go be a

groupie and we know you're not going to do that but it's also like I feel like men go to those type of concerts too looking for women who are there that are by themselves that are single because I mean duh yeah like if I'm a man don't think women are paying even if guys are coming

like that I don't feel like the women are paying them any mind like least I wouldn't if I was single like I'm like okay you you like Chris Brown Usher too I'm not looking at them like trying to holler at all

I understand it, but I also, I understand his side, not to the point where, like, you should feel like you shouldn't go. You also, I mean, both of you all just recently had a baby, but the baby came out of your whole body. I hate to. You deserve a little breaky break, okay? I brought my guests on today, guys, because y'all know I'm always getting, you know, close to the source, close to the problem and close to the exclusive. I wanted you guys stay here in real time. The girls are out here getting the pushback about going to go see Chris Breezy and Usher because the booze are a little upset. I didn't know it was real, especially because you'd be having women at Usher's concert who were there with their men doing the whole cherry challenge.

Yeah. Mommy wouldn't allow that. I know one, I was about to say, I know one thing. If Usher even blink your way with a cherry, he's saying, girl, during the cherry part, put your drink down. Sober up a bit. Don't try. Don't, I used to always tell my mom, oh, my God, older people are so stubborn and they just do things they're not supposed to do. I used to tell my mom when she was kind of like a bed rest

And she would be trying to do stuff Whenever I was leaving the house I'd be like please no gymnastics Don't be out here trying things not today Taylor when you go to that no gymnastics okay I want to know where I don't want to think my seats are like Right in front for even that to be See but even that could change one mention or one oh usher's coming here You know to breakfast club or I said here this this is not breakfast club

But usher's coming to the breakfast club to promote and then We all, you know, are having conversations. And it's like, that's normally sometimes how, like, we end up even going to the shows. It's like once we, um, over on the breakfast club side or even here with the podcast sometimes, too, like when I'm in contact with an artist team that is interested in me like, you know, interviewing the artist or whatever. A lot of times I'm like, if you want me to talk about something, I, like, I don't just say yes because an artist is a celebrity. A lot of times, especially with the latest with Lauren the Rose of the podcast, I like taking you guys into the real, like, come with me to the concert. So I'm bringing y'all back audio from the

concert. I'm doing all the things. Yeah. So they look out. They make sure that the tickets are right and all that because they know that that's a part of the experience that I deliver to my audience and you're a part of building audience here on the podcast at Breakfast Club. So, you know, you never know what this seats may end up being. But listen.

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so Taylor recently became a mom, baby Patrick Jr. It's how old now? Nine months. Nine months. I was going to say eight. I wasn't too far old. Yeah. So I saw this post with Serena and Williams that I wanted to do here in the podcast, but I'm like, this isn't something I could do by myself because I'm

not a parent yet, but I do have some feelings. So Serena Williams got on X and she has her daughter with her husband, Alexis, and she said, I told my daughter to go to bed. She did not, therefore, she missed out on her sleepover. She cried. But what she did not know is I cry harder. I hate when she cries and she put a broken heart emoji.

Discipline sucks, but sometimes it's important. Yeah, it's true. I mean, my son's not there yet. I don't know how old her daughter is. I'll let me look it up. But I don't know though.

It depends what I'm disciplining. Like for me to cry get they're sad or whatever it would have to depend on something because if there's something

they did I'm mad and I don't care about your feelings like go to bed crying. It doesn't matter. Serena has two daughters but I believe she's talking

about her youngest. She does? Yeah. When did that happen? I thought it was just one. I thought it was one too for something. Why do I? Why do I only remember?

I feel like because we, I feel like her first daughter, who's now eight years old, we were, we were so heavily invested because it was like, oh, my gosh, Serena Williams is having a baby. Yeah. But yeah, so her first daughter is eight years old. That is Olympia. And then her younger daughter, Ardara, Adira, was born in August of 2023. She is two years old. So from the photo that they put on this blog, it's a photo of her and her younger daughter.

So I'm assuming she's talking about her younger daughter, but both of them are young. So here's my thought. And I see Little Mo, seeing her Little Moe in the comments of this post. They posted this over at neighbor, they posted this over on Hollywood Unlocked. So in the comments of the post on Hollywood Unlock's Instagram, little Mo says,

girl, you from Compton, since when you start crying over discipline, knock it off, y'all still black. tell that baby go to bed and get some rest and you go lay down too. So my first instinct when I read it, I'm like, Serena Williams got soft on us. Like, what? You crying because she can't make her sleepover? And then I was like, wait, I don't get it though.

Why she couldn't make her sleepover because she didn't go to bed? I think that was her punishment. That's what I figured. Yeah. So she says, I told my daughter to go to bed. She did not. Therefore, she missed out on her sleepover. So basically for not, like basically for not.

listening to her. She didn't allow her to go to the sleepover. Yeah. Right. And when I read Little Mo's comment, I'm like, that was kind of my first thought because I'm like, listen, my old school, but Serena Williams is 44 years old. My mom, my aunts, even my older cousins, like I have older cousins that, because my mom's a lot older than Serena.

But my older cousins who I call aunt, they're like Serena Williams age. So like 45, 46, 50. they still whipping them behind. I'm sure. Because they still come from that generation. I feel like our generation of parent and depending on, because I know Envy and Charlemagne, like I've heard people talk about not beating their kid,

but I feel like our generation of kids, I mean, our generation of parent, we don't put our hands on our kids. Yeah, they, and that's what a little more want Serena to get busy. I want to be honest with you, I'm going to get busy with my son too. Well, I'm going to let the father. the hint of that more so when he's out of line.

I don't even know if I, I tried to, I tried to raise my voice at my niece one time and I couldn't, I couldn't find it. Really? I, but that's the thing though. With my parents, like, I was a, like, the yell at me, I'm going to start crying. Like, I did not, like, being yelled at. And once they did that to me, they got me. Like, right. No, I was the drama. Like, I feel like me and my mom gave my brother a run for her money, but at different times in our life. Like, I think when I was, you know, younger, I was a little bit more mischievous just in the household, but I was always the one that was good outside. So like school, stuff like my mom

never really ever had to come to the school and all that. My brother, complete opposite. People didn't even believe. We went to the same high school. I remember people always used to be like, it's no way you grew up in the same household. Because he was just so different than me. My mom would be at the school all the time. His dad would have to come

to school all the time. And you know, my mom, we got beatings. Like up until a certain age, we're She couldn't anymore. But here's an example. I was watching the Michael Jackson movie. In the movie, there's a scene where Michael Jackson gets beat with a belt. And I remember in my mind, I was like, ding, I haven't heard nobody talk about beating her kid with a belt in so long.

Like, it's just not a normal thing anymore. But when I was young, that was so normal. Yeah. And then I was thinking about how I felt watching it. I felt like, oh, my God, no, stop hitting him. It's just a little baby while you're hitting him. But when I was growing up, it was so normal. so now I think the times have changed.

It's not about she don't know she's black. The times have just changed. Like we've been conditioned a lot differently now and been allowed to because, I mean, Serena Williams is a very much softer life and of course so to her daughters. But I think when it comes to certain, like I know for my cousin,

like she would just ended up taking stuff away from her son and would see that that would hurt him a lot more than a beaten in a sense. Like my mom, I remember she told me that when my brother was acting up in school, my mom went to all his classes and just stood in the back. And that's like this embarrassment for him. So like finding other tactics to just like try me again. And I think that's helpful.

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and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people.

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in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I always think about like when I have kids and I'm excited to bring kids into a world that will be a bit softer and will allow them to be a kid. That's the thing too. Yeah. My mom did a really good job of no matter what the circumstance was.

Like I had a great childhood. Like even great like high school, all of that. like even when we were dealing with things my mom made sure like we were we had a really great upbringing surrounded by family love all of that um but i still got to see like okay i bet i got to work because my mom needs some help yeah i'm growing up in the city for real you know what i mean like we always were lucky we didn't have to move houses my mom owned her house but i like i remember being young and having friends who moved houses like a lot within a year and it was because their mom was trying to figure out affording things and i just remember being young and i just remember being young and

he's always asked my mom, why don't we get the move? I want to move it. Because you know, like, as a kid, you're like, oh, my God, a new house. Right. And now that I'm grown, I'm like, oh, no, my mom provided a sense of stability for me when a lot of moms who were in our neighborhood couldn't figure that out. And she was doing it by herself. So I just think about, you know, what my child's upbringing is going to be like and how different it'll be, even though mine's, even though mine's just want to make sure my child is, like, aware of what's real and what's really happening in the world. Like I see sometimes with kids and, you know, our generation raising kids and our friends that are raising them. And I'm like, these kids are growing up in like delusion.

And it's beautiful on one instance to see a black kid, you know, have a soft life and, you know, all of that. And I love to see it. But then on the other hand, it makes me worry. I'm like, when these kids get in the world for real, like anything going to break them. Yeah. Well, I would say like, so for how my parents raised me, like I was raised in the suburbs. but my dad always made the point for me to also visit my cousins that were also somewhat in the hood

just so I could get different backgrounds and understanding of stuff I used to be the cousin that was in the hood but we had a good we had a good career we had a good setup but like I remember some of my cousins not even been allowed to spend a night at my house just because their moms didn't like them being in the city like you know what I mean yeah and then going to their house and even though they didn't live in the biggest houses and like their moms weren't rich they just didn't live in the city so it was It was a little different. Yeah.

But I don't, I would say like, well, from Philly versus the suburbs, it's different. Yeah, girl. I mean, it's kind of like that. If you're from Delaware, anybody listening, it's like, Wilmington, where I grew up would be, like, living in Philly. And certain parts is like, it's like, so I would say certain parts are like how y'all got North Philly, South Philly, West Philly. So certain parts of the city that, like, you can find okay neighborhoods, okay blocks. but then in certain parts where you're like, yo, like in the block that I grew up on,

so it's a cross street. The cross street was cool because it always led to the highway, so the businesses is there, the bigger homes are there, that's where I live at. The street going, the other side of my house,

that's where, you know, everybody was on to come hang out. You didn't want to be down there. They were shooting. Like, you know, like, so it's weird. Like, I had such a dual upbringing in my grandmother, like her block, you don't want to be over there.

Until to this day, I'd be like, my grandma loves sitting on her porch. I'd be like, my mom, it's the summertime. It's too much going on all here. But everybody in the neighborhood nowhere, you know what I mean? But like, so I really, and then outside of my home upbringing, I had, again, a lot of families. So I'm going to visit them and they're living in the suburbs.

My mom is sending us, you know, to my family living in L.A. at one point. We got to go there for the summer. Like, my mom made sure we got the experience of everything. And she was very real and very honest with us. And she disciplined us in a way where it was like, you understood consequence, you know? even though we tried it we tried my mom like when we got older we tried it but I just I don't know when I see

things like what Serena Williams is posting it's like I feel for her and I'm not nowhere near as successful as her so I can't imagine the bubble she herself lives in now right and then you're raising kids in that but I also it's like I'm always trying to figure out from my parent friends that's why I'm glad

you're here on the show today like what is that balance and how do you realistically have that balance because even if you're not a celebrity right I have friends that are just doing well for themselves and jobs outside of entertainment and their children are living different lives than they grew up in how do you keep the balance um I think it's always to have a conversation and showing them too though like I said like with my dad he made sure to like just show me different I don't I don't say it like that but like

I will visit my cousins and they they lived I don't say lived different life but their surroundings weren't my surroundings in a sense, right? Like, I grew up in all white schools, all that stuff. But I hung around my cousins enough to get, I feel like a little spunk, if anything, or just like, I don't know. But when it comes to discipline, though, I don't think my, well, my dad says that I didn't get disciplined enough because I could be bruck sometimes.

Yeah, that's fine. I think you're so well behaved. But you might act different around your mom and your dad, though. You spoiled is what he's saying. I was spoiled, yeah. I was spoiled, too. I feel like me and my brother, even though my brother will argue so different. I feel like we were spoiled, too.

I remember one time I was supposed to, like, she wanted me to fold laundry. I think I was just stressed out over something, and throwing the fucking clothes, and I got grounded, and that was it. Like, I didn't, I just couldn't go anywhere. No, I was a bit much Like, what? When I got a car, got a little boyfriend Started feeling myself

Like me and my mom used to have it out Like I was disrespectful Like it was bad Like really? Yes Me I'm gonna hear you're disrespectful Because I got caught

I snuck at the house And I My parents took my phone away Like I couldn't Have my phone at nighttime But I had it like During the day of going to school But I couldn't go no way

and they just were trying to keep as much tabs on me as possible. But I was 17 at that time, too, though. So I was about to be on my way to college. So it was around that time for me, too. It was like 16, 17. Like, me and my mom just weren't seeing eye to eye. Me too. I also do, though, you know, what I always think about with, like, moms,

especially, like, black women in their moms. My mom really didn't know how to be a mom. Like, she was a great mom, but because, I'm not going to say, she didn't know how to be a mom, but she went through a lot of and still has a lot of trauma from her relationship with her mom. And I feel like because of that,

I feel like I got the brunt of that a lot of times from my mom. Like in the way that she would speak to me, the way that she would react to certain things, it's like on one end she was super loving, great mom, but on the other end, it's like she didn't know how to be a mother without the chaos and without inflicting certain things

that I used to always be like, that's not needed. And the older I got, And the more I was doing on my own, I was like, I'm not taking this. So that's where we bumped heads at a lot. And I was, and it got, you know, a bit, like, we used to argue, like, two people that didn't know each other on the street. Like, it was bad.

Like, it was very disrespectful. And when I went to college, not even, like, my first year, I think it was maybe toward the end of my first year, my second year of college, I remember just something just flipped for me. And it just made me appreciate my mom so much more. Like, like, and even, yeah. This is gross fonder. Yeah, like, even though.

Me and my grandmother have always been close. Me and my grandmother have always been friends. And I feel like my grandmother treated me like how she should have treated my mom. Interesting. So how she parented me was what my mom didn't get. So I got the back end of that from my mom. But my grandmother made up for that because she came in and was trying to like make up for what she didn't do with my mom. But yeah, when I got to college, it flipped.

And it was still not the best, but it flipped. But when my mom went through like her cancer journey and like we spent, I think that was probably like in my adult life the most amount of time we spent together. because I'm not, you know, in your adult life, you don't realize it, but like, you're working, you're living your own life. Y'all spend the time together as family, but it's not the same. Yeah. During that year, I was like, it was just me and her.

So that made it to a point where, like, I kind of understood her a little bit different. I think I got to really see my mom as, like, a person for the first time versus my mom. I'm seeing that now with my mom. Like, well, I always saw it. Like, my mom definitely was always a mom to me. Like, she never was like one of my little friends, nothing like that. She, even still now, I think my mom, though, has a hard time just talking to me and relating to me in a sense. I have to get her, like, drunk to, like, really chill out.

See, my mom, my brother are smokers. My mom don't drink. My mom, but my mom could be so, but she gets us to be tense sometimes. Like, well, she just needs to relax. Yeah. But, you know, it's a word. fucking progress. Me and my mom are much better than, like,

you were saying, like, in high school, me and her. Like, my mom still looks through, though, as a rebellious child. Because I have an older daughter. I feel like my brother is. Oh, you're the youngest. I'm the youngest. I'm the youngest. Yeah.

Okay. See, the youngest always get that. I feel like my brother got that. I'm not the rebellious. I think I'm the one that kind of, I mean, like, I'm the one that, like, my mom, my mom caused my brother for a lot too. I would say, like, I'm the, I'm the one that, like, even though I didn't do everything, right?

I'm the one that did everything, right? You know what I mean? Like I went to college, like all that stuff. My brother gets to like rebellious, do things his own way. But I will say like one of the things that I appreciated about the fact that like me and my brother are very opposite people is that I, when things get really, really crazy, he is so much better at like just keeping his cool and knowing it's going to work out and kind of being that type of strength.

Yeah. I'm the type of strength where like I'm a freak out but like I'm a figure it out. Yeah. He might not figure it out all the way through, but he knows it's going to work out. Yeah. So I've learned to like appreciate our opposites a lot Especially in crazy moments where like no one would understand But when my mom was going through all that with her cancer journey

It was like we me and my brother kind of got a bit closer And that because no one understood what we were feeling but us Because it's our mom you know what I mean So that kind of changed the dynamic And it made me appreciate how Even though we used to find it like It used to be such an issue like he'll be like Lauren spoiled and y'all care more about what she does

And blah blah and I'll be like They give you more leniency. They let you, like, what? My mom was charging me rent when I was sitting in her house. You get to live there for free and all this stuff. Like, I appreciate those differences. I feel like it raised us where, like, we can have to complete each other. So, like, I mean, she beat us the same, though.

I think if balance helps, like, even when it comes to just my mom and dad, like, my dad's a way more chilled partner than my mom is, like, she's learned. that I feel like to calm herself just from experiences or stuff but like like when my grandma was you know

saying her last goodbyes my mom was super calm like then what and I guess so she prepared herself for it and you know it's coming eventually but I thought it was gonna be because her my grandma and her

were like close close so I know it's still her piece but she told me like she still feels peace she feels peace because she knew she did all she can to have her last year's like that's how i felt about my mom and i thank god that she's still here but i had to get myself to a point where i was like you know as long as god i know i did everything i could to have her give her a fighting chance right it's so weird how the rules reversed in that time of like me taking care of her and just making sure she had everything she needed

to do well yeah that's kind of like how your parents are it's like you know whether they're discipline in you or whatever. Like, they're giving you everything you need to do well because once you get out in the world, it's nothing they can do. I feel like, you know, when my mom was going through a cancer journey, I'm like, look, I'm going to use all the resources I have. I'm going to use social media to get information I need and get help. I'm everything and whatever I can do.

And I do the same with my grandmother too. Like, it's like I just want y'all to have everything that you need so that you can live this life. And they still be wanting to make things hard. I'd be like, yo, I will buy your groceries every month. Instagram. your door. I want to go grocery shop. Why? Because it's their normalcy.

Stay home. It's their normalcy. They want to go grocery shop, talk to random people. Now I'm on nervous. They're letting people bring their groceries. Stay home. But you have to remember, too, though. Like you said, the roles are reversed, but they had a life when he was a baby. So they just want to relive that. Yeah, I get it. Well, thank you for joining me, Taylor.

Wait, we didn't. The more of the story is with discipline. is. I think it's to each his own. And I think I think it's to each his own. Every household is different. But I do think you do have to have a level of like sternness with a child because I think they've got to know that there's a line. But there should be a conversation. I think

I feel like the older generation forgot about it too about like just knowing their child's feelings too though. Like know why they felt this way or did that or like have that. Try to have a conversation with them. Know why they

are getting punished and everything else. Yeah, I agree. I'm just saying. I agree. Well, thank you for joining me, grow. Of course. Yes, and y'all, thanks for tuning in. Again, I want you guys to remember,

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