The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: 21 Savage Told Drake Not To Beef With Kendrick, Dame Dash Reacts To 50 Cent’s Diddy Doc + Teofimo Lopez & Shakur Stevenson Interview

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Teofimo Lopez talks his upcoming fight with Shakur Stevenson and addresses recent racial controversy. Shakur Stevenson also stops by to discuss legacy, Jake Paul, and Tank... Davis. Plus, it’s Friday, so we opened the phone lines for callers to hand out their own Donkey of the Day. Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:45 Listen to Sacred Lessons on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. your alarm to Power 105.1 on IHeartRadio. Good morning, USA! Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, Joe, yo, Joe, yo, yo. Good morning, what's up, Lauren. Good morning, how y'allel, it's Friday. Good morning, how y'all feel out there. I feel blessed black and highly favorite.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Happy to be here, another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning. It is the holiday season. Yes, right? We got another week before vacation, though, y'all. I'm just letting y'all know, okay? Today was going to be our last day, but then you said, you know what, let's stay for another week.
Starting point is 00:03:34 All right? Yes, we did. So, y'all got us for one more week. Counting down. Enjoy it. Like Charlemagne said, vacation for the most started last week because usually we have a list of what's going on in the show in front of us.
Starting point is 00:03:45 They don't care. I don't have that list. Do you have that list? No, I don't have a list. Do you have that list, Lauren? I don't have that list. But I know what we don't. But I know what's going on, right?
Starting point is 00:03:53 You know, Tio Fima Lopez will be joining us this morning. That's right. as well as Chaucer Stevenson. Okay, Teele, he was from Brooklyn, right? Yes, he's from Brooklyn. They have a big fight in January, what is it? January 31st. Yeah, January 31st.
Starting point is 00:04:05 At Madison Square Garden, so they'll be joining us this morning. Plus, there's a lot of new music that came out today. You hear me. Okay, 21 Savage dropped a day. I heard that album a few days ago, man, Meezy. It was fire. What? You got to hear it early.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I was supposed to hear it a couple weeks ago, but I didn't have time. But I heard it a few days ago. How was it? Oh, I rocked with 21. Yeah, but I've been at 21, you know, I've been like a 21 Savage But he's never sounded Discomfortable to me
Starting point is 00:04:30 Got you know what I mean Like you know when somebody first comes out Think about when we first Then you interviewed 21 Savage Like I don't even how many years ago Now seven eight maybe longer I think it was kind of like this I think it was on our break
Starting point is 00:04:40 And we came back for that We did Remember he flew in he flew in just to do that interview And he flew right back out It was like around Thanksgiving A Christmas This is way way way way back But you know he's come a long way
Starting point is 00:04:49 But he sounded good back then But I've never heard him sound as comfortable As he sounds right now Yeah he gets busy And Nause and premier dropped this morning for all the uncles and aunties out there. Okay. Did you listen to that?
Starting point is 00:05:01 Oh, you got your jacket on? Yeah, your I'matic jacket on. I don't know. Y'all've been buying me coats for the holidays. Nala got me this for Christmas. Yeah, salute to Mass Appeal. Shout out to Al-Lenstrom. Yep.
Starting point is 00:05:12 They sent that jacket up there for me. I think one, maybe one for you too. Nala was a part of that. So thank you Nala. Yeah, Nala got me this for Christmas. Thank you, Mass-Apeel. Here's the only thing I don't like about the coat thing, right? Like, you got us coat stuff the day from DeRucci Leather.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Right? People act like I never own. the coat. So I'm out the other day at doing my premiere, my hosting for the Netflix show Nives Out and I just got on my regular black coat and he's like, oh, that coat didn't, we got you, it's so nice. Like, you think I never had a coat
Starting point is 00:05:37 to hell? Well, you didn't. Yeah, we never seen you with a coat. I be wearing coats. We showed you in Delaware. I'd be wearing coats. Y'all just swear I never wore a coat. I never saw you in a coat. I never saw you in a coat. I never seen you in my life. That is not true. That was the first time in that video you got a jacket on in that video. Oh, the eight ball jacket.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's from Derritchie. Oh, yeah. That's from Derritchie. Yeah, so you do have one jacket. What video? What video? Oh, the video when you were popping that thing on.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Oh, we are getting the front page news up next, right? Up next we got front page news. Mimi will be joining us. Let's start the show off with a classic, man. Let's start the show up with a classic. Even though all of this new music is out, you know what I'm saying? We like that energy that we grew up on. That's right.
Starting point is 00:06:19 So can we play some New Jack's wing this morning? Can you got some? It's one of my favorite records ever. Come on, man. Okay. New Jack, swing. Be quiet, be quiet, just be quiet. Just be quiet. Just sit down. Just sit down. Just sit down.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Some breakfast club, good morning. That's right. Please don't you leave. I'm on my hands and knees. Words. All right. Can't express the way I feel. On Fridays.
Starting point is 00:06:40 You know, you know, every time I land on vacation, once we get to our destination, right? And we get to the house and whatever. That's the first song I play. I like. My whole vacation crew, though. The whole family, the whole vacation crew, no. That's the first song I'm turning off. Their mind is Luther.
Starting point is 00:06:53 What's the surround sound? Where the tone is at? I like it's coming on. Yeah, mine is Luther. Never too much. What's yours? What's sexy red joke? It's definitely something sexy reddish.
Starting point is 00:07:02 No, what is it? I feel like my last vacation it was Waile. Waleigh's new album. It wasn't nothing throwback. Yeah, it was Wollet. I was playing that the whole vacation. Well, see, I guess you know,
Starting point is 00:07:12 like those records bring nostalgia. Like, Walee can't bring me no nostalgia. Yeah. I can understand that. Well, let's get in some front page news. Start off with quickly in sports. Thursday night football! The Falcons beat the Buccaneers
Starting point is 00:07:24 29 to 28. What's up, Mimi? NV, Lauren, Charlemagne, how y'all doing this morning? Good morning. Good morning. So we started this morning with a major showdown in Washington over health care and what it could mean for your premium starting just next month. At the Senate, they voted down two competing health care bills yesterday.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And with time almost out, that means those enhanced Obamacare subsidies that millions of Americans rely on are on track to expire in less than three weeks. weeks. Now, if that happens, premiums could double for more than 22 million Americans who rely on those subsidies to keep their insurance affordable. Now, neither the Democrat, sorry, neither the Democratic bill nor the Republican bill, they reached those 60 votes needed to move forward, turning this into a high stakes election year battle. And Democrats, they are already warning that rising health care costs will be a top issue in 26 along the midterms if Congress does not act. After the vote, the Democrats, they held a press conference.
Starting point is 00:08:27 And Senator Amy Klobuchar, she warned that this in action will have a ripple effect. Let's listen to what she had to say. And they not only rejected this three years, despite four of them, including a very conservative Republican voting with us today. They also rejected a two-year. They also rejected a very clear vote on a simple one-year extension that basically would have been the same amount of money as they sent to Argentina. So I don't know how they explain that it was more important for them to send money to Argentina for one of the president's buddies than it is to help people with their health care. 75% of the people on these plans are in red states.
Starting point is 00:09:11 They're in states that Donald Trump won. So I am not surprised that four of our colleagues voted with us. What I'm surprised by is that we didn't get that extra extra nine that we needed who behind closed doors know that we have to do something about this right away yeah so that republican plan which would allow those subsidies to expire and steer people toward lower premium higher cost that plan also filled 51 to 48 in a press conference yesterday white house secretary caroline levitt she was asked whether republicans are working on a solution let's listen to what she had to say the president and republicans are going to
Starting point is 00:09:53 currently coming up with creative solutions and ideas to lower health care costs for the American people and you'll continue to hear more from them on that. Before these subsidies expire? I just said you're going to continue to hear more from the president and Republicans on this issue, I'm sure. Well, we knew that was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Republicans don't care. They've been running against, you know, Obama care since the beginning. Why would they make any concessions now? So Democrats have to let the people loudly know the reason your health care is going up and it's because of Republicans. So act accordingly when the midterms come next year.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Yeah. Yeah. And so House Republicans, they say they want to vote before the holidays, but again, they still don't have a plan that their party can unite behind. And so for now, millions of Americans are bracing for those higher health care premiums that are set to kick in as of January 1st. And Congress is set to leave town next week. So meanwhile, experts are warning, though, without action, millions of people will likely just drop their health insurance altogether rather than pay those higher premiums that they can no longer afford. Once again, we knew this is going to happen. So when you don't have no health care, when your health care prices shoot up, just know it's because of Republicans.
Starting point is 00:10:57 My mom called me yesterday and was, she has an appointment set up in January. She does her checkup scans for her cancer every three months. She is so nervous. Like she's like, let's keep calling at least like every other week to make sure like nothing is wrong because it's so hard to get everything back situated once insurance is messed up. And it's just sad because it's like we went through like a year of just trying to get great insurances so she could get good doctors. And she's so nervous because she watches the news and hears all the stuff. That's crazy. She shouldn't have to focus on, you know, it happening.
Starting point is 00:11:23 She should focus on an appointment, not who's paying, not how much is going to be covered. She shouldn't have to figure it, but she shouldn't have to focus on that. She should be focusing on if there is a problem getting better or making sure there isn't a problem, right? And Americans throughout the country have to deal with that, which is effed up. And this isn't part of that affordability thing, the Republicans been talking about. You know, Donald Trump said on day one, he was going to get into the White House and, you know, put more money in your pockets, bring inflation down, all of that good stuff. All it is doing is putting more financial screen on folks. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:49 All right. Absolutely. All right, well, coming up at 7 is AI changing what you pay for groceries. A new investigation says you may be paying more than the person next to you. We'll break it down and explain in the next hour. All right. Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1.
Starting point is 00:12:05 If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-581-105-105-1. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Yo, it's Super Trucker.
Starting point is 00:12:23 How are you doing? What's that Super Trucker? I thought he said Super Sucker. What? You got to try it. I'm like, I'm like, this guy, man, I called you guys about two months ago. Yes, sir. And I sing, you know, like, man, I thought I did a hike.
Starting point is 00:12:37 But I asked my old lady, I say, yo, you hit me on the breakfast club? She's like, yeah, but you ain't listening. I was like, what you mean? She's like, envy asks you, how do people get up with you? And you're trying to plug a damn song. So. mad at you. She's like, damn, you could have got on. You know what I mean? That could have been our ticket out this truck.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Hey, look here, man. She's from the Bronx, too, Charlemagne. So you know what I'm dealing with. Yes, she's crazy. So can I take this time to tell people where they can find my music at, man? Of course, you can. I'm trying to get you to do it last time, but you ignored me. I'm sorry, man. Look, you can find
Starting point is 00:13:09 my music at superchucker.com, man. I'm at Super Chucker on all of the platforms, Super Chucker, the artist, on TikTok. and I also have a show coming up at the Tiny Chateau in Jacksonville, North Carolina, where I'll be performing alongside my man, Chew Taylor. How long you had your CDL, brother? 21 years, man. Congratulations to you, King.
Starting point is 00:13:32 You in a truck now? Yes, sir. You know what I need? He needs to you to borghum. There we go. You be safe on them roads. That's nasty. All right, man.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I appreciate it, man. Y'all have a good one. Love to you, brother. I've never asked you since I've been here. What does that do for you when they b*** you? So as a kid, I'm going to explain it. So as a kid, my parents, you know, we couldn't afford airplane tickets. So we would drive everywhere.
Starting point is 00:13:54 We would drive to Virginia Beach. We would drive to Virginia. We would drive to the Carolinas. We would drive to Miami or Florida. Okay. And, you know, back then there was, we didn't have game boys, nothing like that. So our fun would be the, when we passed truckers, try to get them to blow the horn. So that was like a game we played as a kid.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Oh, that's so cute. Okay. Yeah, so that's what we did. I didn't know where that stems from. What? That's cute, man. So me and my cousin would be like, Yo, yo, I got him.
Starting point is 00:14:19 I got him. He blowing me. So that's when you first started, like, getting guys' attention and you're making them do things for you? Women drive trucks, too, sir. You ain't never seen no one with truck, drive. I know. I never did that whole life. Not, I never did back then.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's the breakfast club good morning. Ray, Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlemagne. Envy, what up? Are we live?
Starting point is 00:14:43 This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool. A outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. We can get on the phone right now. We'll tell you what it is. We live! Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:14:54 Keisha from Florida. Oh, boy. I see why you upset, Keisha. What Keisha mad about? You? What do I do to Keisha. What do you do, Charlemagne? You hate her.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I don't owe you no child support. You want me to tell him, Keisha. Tell him. Keisha said she want to know why Charlemagne don't like fat people. Why is that I don't like fat people? You'll be talking crazy about it. No, that's not what I said. I want to know why Charlemagne hate fat people.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I don't hate fat people. Why? Come and talk to me. Tell me why you think I hate you. You have a lot of people. Like, you got some issues, Charlemagne, baby. I want you to go look in the mirror and tell yourself you love yourself. Because you always tear people down no matter what it costs, and you don't pour into people and build them up unless it pours and builds you up too.
Starting point is 00:15:40 And that's a problem, honey. You need to deal with that. Could you tell me why you think I hate bad people? But you're very successful man. You're somewhat attractive. you don't have a reason to be such a year. Why you go there? Now you got me.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Now I'm listening. Keisha, now I'm really listening. Kisha, now I'm really listening. Yes, I am somewhat attractive. Why do you think I hate fat people, though? All the comments about the fat people and the airline. When Lauren's on, you have all these things to say about Lurin and her relationship on a spell.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Just say something. You cut just down. You're a hater in general, baby. And, I mean, that comes from some kind of hate within yourself. You need to deal with that. Like, you like to read self-help books, but only for entertainment, clearly, because nothing's sticking. Kisha asking, what if that person did to you? What a big person did to you?
Starting point is 00:16:30 Nothing. I just don't agree with the fact that, you know, I agree with the fact that Southwest Airlines needs to make them pay for another airline ticket. Yeah, but even before that, because then you remember, like, when you and Reese Tisa had a thing, you remember her? What I said about Reese Tisa. Go sign me, baby. Go sign me, baby. That's what I'm talking about. I first heard Reese Tisa's voice, I just said she sounded like she was heavyset.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Kisha, are you heavy set? I am. I am. I'm a proud 371 pounds on a thigh room, and that's the only problem. That's the only problem. 371, you right, baby, three are six kids, because it's cootie cat good. Six kids. They can't stay out of it.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Talk, Keisha. Don't play. How tall are you? How tall are you? Five, six and a half. No, how about your height? Five six and a half. Five six and a half?
Starting point is 00:17:16 Five six and a half. See? You see what I'm saying? You're such a hater. You block your own ears from hearing, baby. Listen. Sound 371. Listen, God bless Keisha and everything that Keisha stands for, man.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Go off, Keisha. Keisha. I mean, I'm just saying. I'm getting off job number two, about to take my kids to school and go to job number one because I'm a hustler and a baller like that. Paying for a little extra sheet is nothing
Starting point is 00:17:39 because I don't want to sit next because nobody anyway. I don't like being close up on people like that. I do that because I'm in the health care field. So when I'm on my. Free time, get out my steak. Well, listen, Kisha, speaking of number ones and number three's, what's your favorite fast food, right? Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Kisha, you have a good day. I don't have one. Oh, okay. I like DJ Steakhouse. Get on my level. Yes, ma'am. Stop me and a hater. Feed into people.
Starting point is 00:18:03 You said, feed you. It costs nothing to be nice. You said feed. It costs nothing to give love. I love you. We appreciate you. I love you and I respect you, Kisha. I love you and I respect you so, so much, Kisha.
Starting point is 00:18:15 No, you don't because as soon as it falls over, you're going to talk so much crap about me. It's not even going to be funny. Except to you. I listen to the show every day. You are haters, Simon. I need you to love you. Whatever a hurt little boy is still in there crying out,
Starting point is 00:18:32 give him some attention, some love, and some hugs. We can't talk about books. Take notes and let something sick because something wrong. Yes, man. If somebody need to tell you, some ain't right. Thank you. Some ain't right. I'm glad you got your.
Starting point is 00:18:47 family back? That's cool, but I mean, what can you know? My family. Kisha, you have a good word. Kisha was listening to me yesterday. You, listen, you spread that lie. Lauren, I got my family back. What did I lose my family? I'm talking about when you got in trouble and you had to get your life right with your wife, remember? That never happened.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Y'all talk. You look at that guy. The envy, that happened to envy. See, hey, that was not me. I thought it was both of y'all. No, it was not. That was envy, okay? Shout out to Kisha, though, man. Boy, just felt good saying that. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:12 You said what? He felt good saying that to you yesterday. You told me I was going to be a syeho. No, I did not say you were going to be saying it's a little heffel. Kenna, listen, Keisha is five, six and a half, 370. Yes, she is. Woo! Keisha, you have a great day.
Starting point is 00:19:26 She works in the health care business, so she probably be a nurse. I think me and Keisha need to learn to love ourselves a little bit more. Shut up, man. That's all I'm saying. You have a good morning, Keisha. God, damn. Damn. Kisha working two, three jobs.
Starting point is 00:19:37 You got six kids. I wish, I wish, I could have gay. I would have paid for Keisha's lunch today. Why lunch? No. Because it's, you don't know she need me. She might need a two-up on her car. It's Christmas.
Starting point is 00:19:47 She might need gifts. Why do you go to lunch? Because I'm going to do like $50 for lunch. I'll pay for Kim's Olympic shots. I'll pay for her. You know what? God bless Keisha though, man. You're trying to be funny talking about you.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I'm not. I'll pay for her lunch today. That's what I do all the time. If you're on the show, I pay for people's lunch. Why? We got all these golden corral certificates around here. Why you need to pay for Keesh's lunch? You know what?
Starting point is 00:20:05 We got all these golden corral certificates. She can even go out and crowd for a year for free. And you want to pay for lunch? Get it off your chest. 800-585-105. We got the ladies coming up. We do. Y'all know we were talking about 21 Savage earlier today. Y'all know he'd be talking with some sense.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Yes, he do. He said he told Drake to stay out of that beef. We're going to get into it. All right. We'll get into that next. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Lauren becoming a free fat.
Starting point is 00:20:28 She gets into somebody that knows somebody. She gets the detail. I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on this. The latest with Lauren La Rosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes she have details. Sometimes she has a little bit everything.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Well, it's the latest. on the breakfast club Talk to me Talk to me LL Kubei Lauren Larosa Good morning I haven't wore
Starting point is 00:20:50 big headphones in a while It feels so weird to have these on You look like a radio personality now These are the little ones
Starting point is 00:20:55 They broke I gotta get some new ones I like that look better I like the radio personality look I think it takes away From my like outfit
Starting point is 00:21:00 But we'll get into That later This is my hair All right So 21 Savage Sat down with Big Bank For Perspectives With Big Bank
Starting point is 00:21:09 And three hour Long conversation To premiere last night I tried to get through The whole thing I fell asleep but it was a great conversation so they talked a lot about
Starting point is 00:21:17 in the opening because even on 21 Savage's new album he talks about like kind of how things have shifted like the streets and he doesn't just mean like street culture he means like what's real was fake being able to tell between the two right so they're talking about the whole beef with Drake and Kendrick
Starting point is 00:21:33 and he says he told Drake not to get into the beef let's take a listen but I told Drake he called me one of them days I called him I think this was after the first song the song with Metro them. And I said, God, damn. You're gonna go into a battle that you can't win.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Like, there's no way you can win. That's your name. No matter what, brus, certain situations, even if you win, you still don't win. The what he would have got if people would have quote unquote say he won, because I don't really look at who won or who lost if I'm still being streamed the most, like. So, but people say like, oh, Kendrick won.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Kendrick, a good-ass rapper, though. You get what I'm saying? And some of his songs was hard. Yeah. but got down straight i like drake songs too you feel what i'm saying but i feel like the only difference is when you're at the top when you're the number one where does winning put you yeah you can't go like number 1.1 so how the f*** could you win anyway that's what i told him like how can you how can you how can you win but it's it's it's definitely ego and it's just
Starting point is 00:22:36 something just like drake really loved it like kendrick really loved a rap yeah and that's the That in part is actually the key. They're both emcees who like to compete. You know, you can say whatever you want about Drake, but he's showing us that he likes to compete. Way to lose. But that's a real rapper. That's what rappers do.
Starting point is 00:22:55 That's right. Like you look at Jay Z back in the day. Jay Z went at small rappers going at him, and he went at major rappers going at him. If you're a rapper, you're an MC, you like the competition. Then we're all being competitive. Not at all, but if Drake had won, he could have, like, it almost sounds like in the beginning of that clip that he's telling him,
Starting point is 00:23:12 Like, you're already there, so it's no need to compete. Like, where do you go from here? But if Drake had won that beef, we would have said Drake won. It would have been a little different for Drake. But that's the risk you take when you engage in a fight. You may win, you may lose. Yes. But I don't have a problem with him being competitive.
Starting point is 00:23:27 He just got his ass kick. It's okay. He's still Drake at the end of the day. And 21 got into that conversation as well. Let's take a listen to clip number two. They want to tell the top of down. So how can you win a battle when the is want you to lose it? Even if you win, you lose.
Starting point is 00:23:44 No matter what, even if, even if Kendrick never responded, man. If Drake just dropped songs. I'm Robert Smith. This is Jacob Goldstein. And we used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History about the best ideas and people and businesses in history. And some of the worst people, horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history of business. Having a genius idea without a need.
Starting point is 00:24:12 for it is nothing. It's like not having it at all. It's a very simple, elegant lesson. Make something people want. First episode, how Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline business. The most Texas story ever. There's a lot of mavericks in that story. We're going to have mavericks on the show. We're going to have plenty of robber barons. So many robber barons. And you know what? They're not all bad. And we'll talk about some of the classic great moments of famous business geniuses, along with some of the darker moments that often get overlooked. Like Thomas Edison and the electric chair. Listen to business history on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. May 24th, 1990, a pipe bomb explodes in the
Starting point is 00:24:57 front seat of environmental activist Judy Berry's car. I knew it was a bomb the second that it exploded. I felt it ripped through me with just a force more powerful and terrible than anything that I could describe. In season two of Ripcurrent, we ask, who tried to kill Judy Berry and why? She received death threats before the bombing. She received more threats after the bombing. The man and woman who were heard had planned to lead a summer of militant protest against logging practices in Northern California. They were climbing trees and they were sabotaging logging equipment in the woods. The timber industry, I mean, it was the number one industry in the area, but more than it was the culture. It was the way of life.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I think that this is a deliberate attempt to sabotage our movement. Episodes of Rip Current Season 2 are available now. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. For 25 years, I've explored what it means to heal, not just for myself, but alongside others. I'm Mike De La Rocha. This is Sacred Lessons, a space for reflection, growth, and collective healing. What do you tell men that are hurting right now? Everything's going to be okay on the other side, you know, just push through it.
Starting point is 00:26:15 And, you know, ironically, the root of the word spirit is breath. Wow. Which is why one of the most revolutionary acts that we can do as peoples just breathe. Next to the wound is their gifts. You can't even find your gifts unless you go through the wound. That's the hard thing. You think, well, I'm going to get my guess. I don't want to go through all that.
Starting point is 00:26:35 You've got to go through the wounds your life. listening to other people's near-death experiences. And it's all they say. In conclusion, love is the answer. Listen to sacred lessons as part of the My Coutura Podcast Network, available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, Dr. Lori Santos from the Happiness Lab here.
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Starting point is 00:28:03 slash happiness lab to donate. Hi, I'm Dr. Priyank Wally. And I'm Hurricane DeBolu. On our new podcast Health Stuff, we demystify your burning health questions. You'll hear us being completely honest about our own health. I'm talking about very serious stuff right now, and you're laughing at me. And you'll hear candid advice and personal stories from experts who want to make health care more human. Sometimes you're there to listen, to understand, to empathize, maybe to give them an understanding or a name for what's going on.
Starting point is 00:28:33 That helps people a lot, understanding that it's not just in their head. We are breaking down the science, talking with experts, and sharing practical health tips you can actually use in your day-to-day life. From when to utilize and avoid artificial light to how to sleep better. Everything you need to know about fiber and how to poop better. How to minimize the effects of jet lag and how to stay hopeful in times of distress. We human beings, all we want is connection. We just want to connect with each other. We want to make health less confusing and maybe even a little fun.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Find health stuff on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And got down, Kendrick never responded to nothing. He still don't win because his position didn't change. He was already the top. Yeah, but that shit sounds different when them folks got down playing the Super Bowl. But if this song, that shit is different. Huh? I guess.
Starting point is 00:29:27 That shit is different. Like, you know, numbers don't lie. But, that shit got to feel a certain type of way, boy. What, you're talking about, to hear a n-a-n-ditch, you were at the Super Bowl? Yeah, and to goddamn them arena, them folk, like, homie, you know, Kendry been a great artist all this time or whatever. Yeah, for sure. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:45 But he ain't had that look. That Drake did this one look been his biggest look. Drake couldn't get that from him. Facts. That's all my point was. Yeah. Yeah, see, I don't like that conversation either, though, because we, I don't know why we act like,
Starting point is 00:30:00 Kendrick Lamar wasn't Kendrick Lamar before all of this. You know what I mean? He was. He won a He was. He won a Pulitzer Prize. That's true. But this man has been selling out arenas all over the world way before this. But for some reason, people feel like... He's got so many Grammys before this.
Starting point is 00:30:16 But that beef took him up another level, I would have to say. People who might not have known who Kendrick was. It made it trendy to listen to Kendrick, I feel like. I think so. He's a superstar. But you can't take away what Kendrick is done now. We're acting like he wasn't already a one-A artist already. He was. He was. But it made it a little bit more trendier.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Like, 21 said it made him 1.1. Like, he was already an A artist. Now, it made him a little more to people that might not have known. That defeats Drake's point. I mean, 21's point. What's that? He said you can't be 1.1 when you're already in the last. What are you saying?
Starting point is 00:30:45 What are you saying? It would have been a different. If Drake won, he would have been 1. It crossed him over a lot more. Kendrick Benckrod. I think it crossed him over a lot more. I think that battle crossed him over a lot more. I think it just made more conversation around Kendrick Lamar.
Starting point is 00:30:57 And there was conversation there already, but I don't know. It did make it. different. It felt different. I will say to people talk about what that battle did for Kendrick but Kendrick just topped Hot 100 songwriter of the year for the first time and a lot of the songs on here that they're crediting him for
Starting point is 00:31:12 are not just, it's not like us it's here but you got humble. There's so many other songs that I'm just pointing it out for the people because they like to make it seem like this battle made Kendrick a superstar. The beauty about Kendrick Lamar is every single time he drops an album, it's an event. Like every single time. Like this guy
Starting point is 00:31:28 will take four or five years off and come out with an but every single time he drops, it's an event. He's going to win Mad Grammys. He's going to go on tour, sell out all around the world. The guy was... But you got to admit, that Not Like Us was a different level of... Of course. It was a different type of record.
Starting point is 00:31:42 It was a different type of everything. By the way, for any hip-hop artists, you get a not like us. It's just a different type of record. Not like Us is don't come around too long for any artist. I feel like the dots just connected everything for Kendrick that. Yeah, the dots connected for that. Super Bowl. That's what they do.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Yeah, the Super Bowl, the record, the Grammy. I mean, it was just, it was everything. Yeah, one of the greatest years in hip hop history. You can't plan that. But you don't get that kind of year if you already don't have the foundation and career that Kendrick Lamar already had. You don't get that from just going viral real quick on TikTok. I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And they did get into, I know we got a rap, but they did get into, like, you know, the gun of conversation. They also talked about, if you guys want to take a listen to the interview, and they also talked about Metro and Drake, if there's a chance for them to ever work together again. Because you guys know 21 loves to put people back together. Let's take a listen to that. That's me and Drake just, I don't, it's just the relationship keep itself. Just like me and Metro. So did you try to, I tried to get them together. Well, long, long, long before all this shit.
Starting point is 00:32:39 What happened? You know something just, Metro felt how he felt. Metro felt the certain type of way about something. Drake told me and Metro that he understood where he was wrong. And he apologized. And he apologized multiple times. But I feel like Metro just felt how he felt. But I feel like now Metro is kind of,
Starting point is 00:32:58 is kind of more open-minded. I feel like he, like, I don't know. I feel like Metro been through a lot. So, you know, like, I feel like sometimes it just don't be the right time. But I feel like in the future, the near future, we'll see them work together again. Do you think the damage is done?
Starting point is 00:33:15 Do you think, like, Drake took a hit? Do I think he took a hit? Yeah. No. He's still the number one screen this year. Yeah. I feel like he took an internet hit, but then it'd be like, damn,
Starting point is 00:33:27 did you take an internet hit? could scream and you got to go on the internet to scream he took a hit 20 he did he took a hit it's so much more to his time but he took a hit I think he can rebuild but I do think the way that the internet is set up when they go against you it does put a little clack because people are not even screaming about ice man
Starting point is 00:33:44 yeah but to 21's point yeah the internet might be feeling away but he's still the number one scream dog 100% so it doesn't really matter 6-7 6-7 yeah 21 also called Atlanta a pedify Yeah, I've seen that.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Yep, and there's a lot there. It's a three-hour interview. Make sure you guys go and check that out. We might can bring that back. Check out perspectives with Big Bank on the Black Effect I Heart Radio podcast network. And it was dope how they did it because they started the interview at 9
Starting point is 00:34:10 and it was three hours and it led right up to the album dropping at midnight. What happened to the Screech by 21stabble? We got some 21 in there? Yeah. We got the record featuring Drake. OVO sent us this record. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:20 The Mr. Recoup? May I'd rather hear I wish or something. Don't be letting OVO Eli pick the goddamn music. That's the only one they got clean in there. See that? Yeah, I'm sure. because he's a freaking Drake Stan. He is.
Starting point is 00:34:29 God, damn. Let's get into it. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess O'Larious. Sholomey N'Gai.
Starting point is 00:34:36 We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back at some front page news, sort of with sports. And Thursday night's football. The Falcons beat the Buccaneers, 29 to 28. What's up, Mimi? Good morning, Mee, Lorette, Lauren. Shalameen, how y'all doing this morning? Bees, girl.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Good morning. So we start this hour with the major development in the case of Kilmar-Obrega-Gar-Garcia. After a federal judge, order his surprise release from an ICE detention center in Pennsylvania. He is now back in Maryland this morning. And the judge ruled the government had no legal authority to keep him detained because the paperwork needed to deport him a final removal order. It was never completed. Now, without that, ICE could not lawfully hold him. But as attorney feels that this may not be the end of the fight, let's listen to what he had to say. But this case has always not just been
Starting point is 00:35:24 about one man at the same time. It's also about the fight between power and law, right? And the Trump administration's desire to use this one man to make a point that they can do whatever they want whenever they want. I really wish that I could say that with this, you know, they're going to leave well enough alone. This family's suffered enough. This man has suffered enough. He was tortured in prison in El Salvador earlier this year. But, you know, we've been around the block long enough to know that it's very unlikely that they're going to leave him alone. And I think they're going to keep coming after him. The exact means in which they do that, we don't know. Yeah. So this controversy comes after months of aggressive
Starting point is 00:35:57 attempts to remove him from the U.S. At one point, the Trump administration tried to deport him to four different African countries, including Uganda and Liberia. And this morning, the administration says its position has not changed. They still intend to pursue his deportation. A DHS spokesperson said earlier this year that Abrago will, quote, never go free on American soil. And when White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt, she was asked about his release yesterday
Starting point is 00:36:23 in the Oval Office, this was her response. Let's listen. The White House, the administration, opposed this activism from a judge who is really acting as a judicial activist, which we've unfortunately seen in many cases across the country. Arego Garcia is present in our country illegally. He is a proven human trafficker. He is a proven gang member. The administration has evidence of that. And as you saw from the Department of Homeland Security, they issued a statement saying they'll continue to fight this legal battle in court.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Question of me is that true? Is he a proven gang member and proven human trafficking? No, he's not. In that case in Tennessee, it was what they're talking about, about the human trafficker. That case has yet to go to court, but they have not proven that he is a gang member. In fact, he came from El Salvador, and he was given immunity, and he was not told that he had to go back. And then when he went back to El Salvador, that was, like, against the law because he was given immunity from, I forget which administration it was. So it's still like an ongoing case.
Starting point is 00:37:23 The Trump administration is still continuing to try and deport this man. But that's because a lot of people are saying they're trying to make an example out of him. You know, when his case first got started, it was when the immigration stuff just got, it just began, right? And so a lot of, a lot of what's happening with him stems from them just trying to make their point that they are in charge. And this immigration status, his immigration status is going to be revoked because, you know, he's fighting against it. Basically, I don't know why they continue to fight against him. I wonder how much they've ruined this man's life because I'm sure he can't get no work
Starting point is 00:37:59 because nobody wants to touch him, you know what I mean? Well, he's been in jail for the past year. He has not, you know, he's out of detention for now, but he is scheduled to be in a Maryland courtroom at 8 o'clock this morning in Baltimore. And the last time that he was scheduled to be in court in Baltimore, he was taken back into custody. So we don't know what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:38:19 The Trump administration, they continue to go after him with tooth-the-nail. So we'll see what happens. And that's funny. When I knew that he came back home a year ago, I just thought he was home. I didn't even realize he was still in jail for the past year. Yeah, they put him right back in detention. So we'll see what happens this morning.
Starting point is 00:38:35 He is scheduled to be there at 8 o'clock this morning. His supporters say that they will be outside and they will be supporting him to see what happens. And his lawyers say that they will continue to fight tooth and nail for him. And then we also have an update to a story. We brought you earlier this week. The man accused in that deadly shooting at Kentucky State University, the HBCU, He was in court yesterday. So 48-year-old Jacob Lee Bard, who investigators say is the father of two students enrolled
Starting point is 00:39:03 at Kentucky State. He pled guilty, uh, excuse me, pled not guilty to murder and first degree assault. The judge, they said his bond at $1 million cash. His next, uh, hearing is scheduled for next week. Now, police say Bard was involved in a physical altercation on campus before pulling out a handgun and shooting two students near a residence hall. And one of those victims, a 19-year-old, he died at the hospital. hospital. The second remains in critical condition. And as for a motive, investigators, they haven't
Starting point is 00:39:31 disclosed one, but they're still reviewing surveillance video, bystander video. And there are reports that there may have been a fight involving Bard's sons that may have happened beforehand, but police say it's too early to confirm that. Hmm. So damn sad. Horrible, man. Yeah. Absolutely. And to our next story, so if you use Instacart to save time on groceries, this next story may make you look twice. at your receipt. So a new study says Instacart has been using artificial intelligence to quietly test different prices on different shoppers, meaning two different people could be buying the exact same item from the exact same store at the exact same time and still pay
Starting point is 00:40:11 completely different prices. Now, researchers, they tracked more than 400 shoppers in four cities and found that Instacart sometimes offered up to five different prices for the same product. And here's what that means for you. So if you use Instacart a lot, especially with grocery prices being so high, you could be paying up to $1,200 more a year without even realizing it. So consumer advocates, they say this isn't just confusing, it is unfair, and they argue that Americans are already struggling with grocery bills, and they shouldn't be, quote, guinea pigs for price experiments. And so Instacart, though, they are pushing back, saying these are short-term tests that help retailers figure out what matters and keep essentials down for shoppers.
Starting point is 00:40:53 and Instacart says that these tests they are not based on who you are or your behavior in other words they say they're not targeting specific people they're just running experiments across the platform I Instagram all the time that's a little nerve-wracking but you do got to watch them because even down to
Starting point is 00:41:09 like when they replace certain things which I know as a human doing it but like I make sure I like choose all of my replacements because they'll just grab whatever so it'll be like brands or prices that you don't want oh I hate that I ordered some oldest Funkin-Mire cookies the other day and they sent me I forgot what the other brand was,
Starting point is 00:41:25 but it wasn't know what it's Funkin-Mire. Did you put in your replacement? No. See, I do that. They ask you, they ask you if they don't have it, what's your replacement. I'll, like, write them and say, hey, if they don't have that, just refunded. Like, I'm very particular about it.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I feel like that was just God's way showing me that I didn't really need those cookies. Yeah, you didn't think. You need to relax. Or they could have been charged a lot more for those cookies than they were actually really worth. That's apparently what has been going on in a bunch of different cities.
Starting point is 00:41:50 And Lauren, you too, right? Like, you got to double check your, receipt now. Yeah. Did you talk about AI? I saw yesterday the Time magazine made the Architects of AI person of the year which I also thought I'm like this is crazy. I mean they all changing the world.
Starting point is 00:42:05 We can't escape it. People are upset but you got to get with it. I mean AI is like anything else. It's going to be some positive benefits but there's going to be a lot of negative benefits and you just got to ask yourself do the pros outweigh the cons when it comes to AI. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. That's true. All right y'all. Well, that's your front page news.
Starting point is 00:42:21 I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown. For more stories, follow the Black Information Network, download the free IHeartRadio app, and visit BINNews.com. Peace, Mimi. Thank you, Mimi. Thank y'all. And listen, you know, today is Friday, so we do the people's donkey, man. So 1-800-585-1-1-5-1. If you want to call up and give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid, you can call us right now.
Starting point is 00:42:42 That's right. And when we come back, Tio Fimo Lopez will be joining us. He's fighting Chaucer-Stevison on the 31st of January at Madison Square Garden. And we're going to talk to both of those brothers in the next couple of hours. So don't move. Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess hilarious. Charlamine Nagai. We are the breakfast club. Longa Roses here as well. Our brother Akis here, so you know what that means. We got a box in the building,
Starting point is 00:43:04 ladies and gentlemen. From Brooklyn, New York. He's fighting on the 31st of January. He's fighting you should call Stevenson, T.O. Lopez. Welcome. Yes. Good morning. How you feeling, brother? Feeling great. Feeling excited. And I'm just pumped for this fight. It's a dream matchup. You know what I'm saying? It's a fight that boxing fans, you know, these are the fights we want to see. What made you want to fight your core right now? How did y'all get it done? I think it's just fate, you know?
Starting point is 00:43:29 It just lined up. I think that, you know, he's been talking a big, big game since the Williams that paid a fight that happened over here at the Armstrong Stadium. So I think that there's nobody else at 135 that he's trying to aim for. So he wants to come for the top dog, and that's me at 140. So it just lines up, you know, and I'm always, I'm always willing to fight the best. And I felt like, why not? You know, people talk highly of Shakur as they should,
Starting point is 00:43:55 and I'm just here to do my part and put it upset. You know, you mentioned the fight against Sepeda. Will you surprise how Shakur, Shakur has gotten criticized for moving and being a boxer that isn't that aggressive, which, I mean, he's been successful at it, but on the Sapater fight, he showed the word he could fight in the pocket. Like, Sepa throws a thousand punches of fight, Were you surprised or do you expect that Shakur can fight that type of fight as well?
Starting point is 00:44:25 I mean, I look at it like, I know we mentioned it, we talked about it. I'd say that it was the people get to him. People get to Shakur quite easily. So I feel like whatever the people want is what they're going to try to get with Shakur. Oh, so you say he fought like that to please the people, to prove to the people that he can do it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't need to. Yeah, because you can't, if Chiquot
Starting point is 00:44:52 don't want you to touch him, you're not going to touch him. His defense is that immaculate. We'll see. You just said that you're ready to pull an upset. So you're acknowledging that you're called the better fighters? Never. No, no, no. You just said that.
Starting point is 00:45:04 You said the upset. No, he's putting the odds of probably has him in my head. No, yeah, it's just the odds. They got them as the favorite. Oh, got you, got you, got you. The odds, I think, is like, three to one right now. Okay. That's all.
Starting point is 00:45:15 I'm kind of used to being in that position. I'm just here to reclaim them and re-defend them. So with that upset, like, what do you plan to, like, exploit about Shakur and the ring? That is, defense is not as impeccable as people mention it. Nah, it's impeccable. It's pretty elite. Come on, T. It's pretty elite.
Starting point is 00:45:36 No. What is his weakness, though, if there's one? It's mine. Once you penetrate the mind, that's it. Hey, this game. This is boxing. This has always been since. forever and if your mind ain't strong in this it's never going to accomplish anything in life
Starting point is 00:45:53 and that's why boxing to this day is the toughest sport in the world and you can't take away from that and it starts with the mind that's why now you're both fighting in the guard you're fighting at the garden what does that mean to you you from brooklyn him from jersey what does that mean to you now yeah brick city and concrete jungle it's how you got to look at it it's a it's a blessing I mean, for me, I think it's a, it's a, not only an honor, but it shows where we're at in the pedigree of the sport. You got two prime fighters coming in, the best, fighting the best. And putting on a show in New York, it's nothing like the Mecca. And Madison Square Garden, there's so much history there.
Starting point is 00:46:34 I've won my titles there. I've been defeated there. I won them all back again. So I got a lot of history when it comes to Madison Square Garden. Does it get to your head when you hear the odds or you hear somebody like Charlemagne saying his defense is impeccable and say that you, the underdog, does that get to your head at all when you see, like, people going against you so much? No, it can be. Can't be. It comes with it.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I look at it like this. I was talking to my father about this and was also my trainer. I said, if you want to be light, you know, you'd be light by being a good fighter. You want to be loved, you be the best fighter. But you want to be hated, you'd be the greatest fighter. And I think that all comes in different atmospheres. And when you're the greatest, not a lot of people are going to agree with what you're doing and how you do it. So I'm trying to aim for that category, aim for that for my journey and for my name.
Starting point is 00:47:34 And before I hang up these gloves, people can say, Tio Fima, what's the greatest? The thing I love about you, you've been very open about your personal struggles and pressure and mental health. What's doing that work made you a better man and fighter. I love it. I love it. I honestly love it. I think that's like part of the journey. It's like you learn with struggle.
Starting point is 00:47:54 You learn with obstacles and you also learn within yourself what you can and cannot do. And then you hit a point in your life where you start realizing that there's not much that you cannot achieve. So you push limits far beyond your own measures. And I love it. I love it. I love this right here. I love this fight. I love this part where it's going to test my limits.
Starting point is 00:48:18 It's a challenge to show people, and I'm here to exploit his defense of Shakur Seamson. I'm here to show that there's a lot of flaws in his style. We don't grown up in the amateurs together since the early 2000 and tons. So we got a lot of history when it comes to seeing each other rise to the cream of the crop. But I think that now it comes to where. we just meeting now so we never faced each other wish him nothing but the best after he loses to me and yeah i can't wait to just keep on going from there i have to ask you because i'm so happy
Starting point is 00:48:57 that this fight is happening because at one point uh this is a ring fight right so turkey alashika is involved and at one point it was saying that you were on the outs you said something about Saudi Arabia you said something about i don't know the religion correct me if i'm wrong and supposedly Turkey didn't want to do any business with you but then in Vegas I saw you, him, everybody like kind of mingling so what was
Starting point is 00:49:22 said, how did you guys mend that beef or whatever issue that was? It's boxing. There's no beef. It's just boxing. You're going to talk. Sometimes you're going to talk, hit and miss. I know, but did you regret anything that you said? Because you're outspoken. Have you ever regretted anything that you said?
Starting point is 00:49:38 Like to the public? Well, one thing you learn in this game, you don't talk about religion. So I don't think No, but I'm just saying Not learn from it I don't recall me even mentioning about religion I think people mix up my words From time to time
Starting point is 00:49:52 And that comes with this game It's cool I mean I'm still captain of my division I'm holding my belts I'm proud to be a ring champion His champion so to speak And at the same time
Starting point is 00:50:04 WBO world champion So I'm in a great position I think that as long as you bring money To the game They can exclude you out Tim Bradley said that He feels like Chiquot Stevenson can hurt you. Not necessarily with power, but by frustrating you,
Starting point is 00:50:17 controlling the distance, nullifying your offense, just making you look bad. He said that he feels like he has, Secure had superior boxing IQ compared to you. That's cool. That's his opinion. That's cool. Everybody has an opinion like in a .
Starting point is 00:50:33 I swear I wish I could be like, yeah. I swear I wish I could be like you too. He'd be like, they say whatever, it's fine. I'd be like, say what? He also said, don't run. You said don't run from Shakula? Yeah, yeah. I mean, hey, I don't, I put on boxing shoes, not track shoes.
Starting point is 00:50:50 So, yeah, just, I'm excited for it all, man. I like to go to the fire. You know, what people have been talking about was your mental lapses in the ring because you're so skilled. Like, you've been on a pound-for-poundless, right? Especially after you beat Lomachenko, you showed every facet of your game. But then there's fights, little hiccups, like against Sandal Martin, where people who say, Tio just wasn't really there.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Like, mentally, it wasn't really him. Like, how do you avoid that from happening? And do you hear that noise? Jackson raised me. I say it like that. And you come to a point in life where you realize some things may not go exactly the way you plan it for that night. That's perfectly fine because they're just mistakes in the lead up to something more.
Starting point is 00:51:36 It only becomes a choice when you continue to make that same mistake. steak. So I've come to terms where it's like those type of quote-unquote hiccups were challenging moments for me to see where I could improve in my game. There's no such thing as like, oh, I know everything.
Starting point is 00:51:54 I know how to do it all. I got this in the bag. You don't. If you do, you might as well quit now. Yeah. You know? Do you still love boxing? Because, you know, it's funny. I hear you talk about your son a second ago and you lit up. Yeah. But then when you talk about boxing, it's just like fucking I'm a fight.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I'm gonna win. Keep moving. Then I'm gonna go back to my son. You know what I mean? So do you still love it? You still have love for the sport? I wouldn't be the man I am without it. But do you still love it now?
Starting point is 00:52:21 Absolutely. I'm just more, um, no more rah-rah. No more. You want to show and prove through actions and not words? I ain't going to win that battle no more. I'm just going to do what I got to do because the real going prevail. Regardless, it may, they show a lot of flaws and fake dudes. and fake people around the world now.
Starting point is 00:52:42 But as long as you keep your thing, keep it thorough, you're going to get choice. But don't you feel like you suppressing who you really are? Like, you talked about the Times Square. And everybody was saying, Tiafimo was the one that had that whole promotion lit up, like on the press carverses. You had the bravado and all that.
Starting point is 00:52:58 So now it seems like you're saying you're going to suppress that. You're not going to be yourself? I'm still myself. Just a different toned-down version of you? If you want to say it that way, I think I just, I ain't really been on social, right now. I've just been locked in.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Yeah, I just been on. I don't know. I just been on. I get what I'm saying, though, because even when you talk about, you know, the things. I'm so funny, though. I'm going to definitely do my thing at the press conference in a little bit. But you got to show that to sell the fight because, you know, you got the accolade. But, you know, in order to get that money, sadly, you got to perform a little bit. I already got the money. Oh, you got the contract sign of, but.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Yeah, no, so it's more so of the... Yeah, but you want the fight to do well. Yeah. Numbers. It will. I mean, look, this is my first time sitting amongst you all at the breakfast club and honestly, it's been, that's what it takes you to.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Your pops is funny. He back there like, man, fuck all that. Let's get to the fight. That's what you're in your needs right there. Your pops are here in New York. He's the fucking underdoor. He doesn't have a fucking out of the door. Now, you think, we never lost to a South Pole
Starting point is 00:54:06 out of 200 bikes, so. He said they never lost to a South Pole. South Pole out of 200 fights. Yeah. Or more. A lot of people look at, look, not to look over it, but a lot of people look at South Pole's very, they're very difficult, but I grew up with South Pole since a kid. Kind of I understand the rhythms of it.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Don't get me wrong. He could be slick, but it's something I do to South Pole is that just working my favor. It's called different, though. It's all right. It's cause a special fight. What you're talking about? Yes, Dad Even his little daughter said
Starting point is 00:54:43 Hold on, get a Pops of Mike Yeah, like we need that fire Yeah, I'm trying to stay quiet No, don't take quiet Don't stay quiet Don't stay quiet I know, yeah That's what he's freaking four seconds, man
Starting point is 00:54:56 This is a special fight Because of both Because who we both are But she calls it is a special fight You got to acknowledge That's what we fight in There you go Yeah
Starting point is 00:55:04 So he does agree That he special But he does get in But I mean he got a head He got hit a couple of times against Cepeda, but he put himself in a position. Normally he doesn't get hit like that. That boy would have been down. Damn.
Starting point is 00:55:18 You became undisputed at a young age, like you acknowledged. When you look at your career now, what part of your legacy are you? May 24th, 1990, a pipe bomb explodes in the front seat of environmental activist Judy Berry's car. I knew it was a bomb the second that it exploded. I felt it ripped through me with just. a force more powerful and terrible than anything that I could describe. In season two of Rip Current, we ask, who tried to kill Judy Berry and why?
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Starting point is 00:59:03 And, you know, ironically, the root of the word spirit is breath. Wow. Which is why one of the most revolutionary acts that we can do as peoples just breathe. Next to the wound is their gifts. You can't even find your gifts unless you go through the wound. That's the hard thing. You think, well, I'm going to get my gifts. I don't want to go through all that.
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Starting point is 01:00:53 Like I said before, just trying to claim more history. Yeah, break numbers I think we're going to sell out The garden We got the big room Of course You're going to be good You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:01:03 So I think it's going to be great You called out a lot of big names Obviously this is a massive fight You called out Obviously Bud Cawford at one point Boots and this So what's ahead
Starting point is 01:01:14 You're saying that you're going to beat Shakur Upset him Like are you going up to 147 Do you still want the big fights Like what? I'm trusting my team I'm gonna trust my team
Starting point is 01:01:24 On this one I'm not gonna do no more than that you know that's why you got a team that's why everybody gets what they get from it so trust your team trust the process and trust the fact that they got big plans for me um the first quarter of the year and then moving forward after that so i'm just i'm excited no matter what i'm excited that i'm back on the field i'm back fighting getting ready it's been a long time overdue and uh yeah just ready to like show people like the takeover for real for real is this the most underestimated you felt going into a fight or was it this way with loma chenko
Starting point is 01:01:57 Nah, nah, nah, nowhere near close. Okay. But I just like the fact that I'm just keeping myself more calm and composed. Don't get me wrong, definitely, for sure. But I just, yeah, I just like, I ain't trying to do no more of that. I get myself in trouble for no reason. Like, I'm being my authentic self and it gets people in trouble. Because it gets me in trouble, I'm like, so y'all just don't like it.
Starting point is 01:02:21 So it's like, I rather just, I'm trying to get deals and stuff like that in the near future. So I rather just keep it like this. What's the biggest misconception people still have about you? That I'm crazy? Yeah, I'm not crazy. It's like you've got to believe you're the best and the greatest to do what you do. And when you do it, not crazy. You're really smart.
Starting point is 01:02:50 You're a genius. That sounds a little crazy. Really? Like what you're saying? No, because. It's just that. Me and I was talking to my father about this, though. All right.
Starting point is 01:03:01 So I know y'all been hearing about the WBC and Crawford and all that stuff, right? So I was thinking about this. You only become undisputed when you pay all the sanctioning fees. So by default, by him not paying that one sanctioning fee, although he beat Canelo Alvarez, by default, he's not disputed three times. No, he's undisputed. No, he's undisputed. I mean, I mean, obviously, the public knows, the public knows. No, no, you know on paper.
Starting point is 01:03:32 You mean on paper. That doesn't mean anything at this point, though. It does, because they did it to me. I'm going to do it to them. But what about those comments that people were saying that were racist and they claim that you send bananas to Keishon's room and all that? Look, I know you personally, and I don't know you to be racist at all, right? But do you regret any of those antics?
Starting point is 01:03:56 And I know why, I guess I figure why you thought you had to do it. Like a scarface moment right now. Like when you see you, when you see me, point your finger, point your finger and say, that's the bad guy. I'm the bad guy of boxing. So that's what it was, you think? No, but that's what they want to portray it as because no one else could do something like I do. Not the, not the whole part of the, the fruits. But let me, let me regroup back on this.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Let me regroup back on this. though, when you ask me that question, why is it that way? I could say it's the three gateway I never chose on. I could say that I'm just trying to do something and authentically. I could say that I probably, the odds wasn't meant for me to have those flowers to do it, but something much higher caused it for me to do a cause and chain of reaction. I still don't know. but one thing I'm not going to do
Starting point is 01:04:56 is allow something that that is not powerful more than I am to dictate where I should be and how I should move my life because it's working
Starting point is 01:05:14 if it's still working they ain't broke don't fix it right and I'm maintain on that I think certain things in this world tend to lead on let's just fixate it on that right but let's i can know how to make you a celebrity overnight but i ain't choose that i just want to be the best of what i do yeah and some people may not like that so yeah there's ways to scratch it off rewrite it they don't done it with the bible and many other
Starting point is 01:05:40 things so what am i to it so when we got shakur now cool let's see what else we could pursue and what we could do let's see how much longer can my um so-called authenticity continue to carry on in this in this industry a boxing so what did you mean when you when you said uh when you was talking about tank and bud you said whichever monkey wants the banana yeah because it's like i'm trying to get fights and it's been leading it's been it's been let up for a long time you know what i'm saying it's been led up for a long time so i tried different ways and different avenues had contracts thrown and all that never happened nothing never happened so i was like yo you know what
Starting point is 01:06:24 I used to grow up watching young other fighters 40s, 50s, I'm talking 1940s, 50s, where they used to go at each other like this. And then what about Mike Tyson? Mike Tyson, yeah, yeah. Mike Tyson said, I'm going to eat your kids and all this, right? Oh, he used gay slurs too. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:06:45 I'm going to, I'm going to, you love me. Yeah. Right? So what happened to, I just grew up from that hardcoreness. That's how I looked at it. You know what I mean? And that's what I love the most. Why I wanted to put a pair of boxing gloves was because it was hardcore.
Starting point is 01:06:59 It was rugged. You know, it wasn't none of this. It's a different era, though, and that's where I had to adjust. And I was like, okay, cool. I get where everybody coming from, but don't put me and portray me like that because I'm just coming from what I grew up on. Not the, not the baiting, but just the fact, like, I'm going to just get you under your skin till we just lace it up and then really make a full-pack action fight. Yeah. But why not stand, though?
Starting point is 01:07:23 Even with the Kishon Davis, like I did say it was an anonymous package of watermelons and bananas and then you... All I did was just laugh at it. Eating a banana. Laughing at it. Why not stand on it and be like... How you mean? Like claim it. Say that you sent it.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Because I did it. No, no, I know. You said on our show that you didn't do it. But if people were assuming that you did and you put in the video to Charlemagne's point, why not say I let them believe that I did it? Because... That's how we don't promote the fight that you just sent it. He has to do something. right so basically it's like this um you you you put a lie out there in front of everybody's face
Starting point is 01:08:02 let people talk about you now i just took away from his action of his fight leading up to a world title now it's on me whether it's good there's no sort of thing as good or bad publicity unless you hit a woman or you cause some murder or something like that to the point where you got a you know a mug shop but other than that it shouldn't lead to that case scenario so i I just, I went with it. But when it came to Ackham, Ack and I got on their show, I literally set it out like it is.
Starting point is 01:08:30 I ain't do none of that. You know? Because you really didn't. Exactly. But when they label you that, then they want to keep it going. Like they said you used the N-word on Instagram Live, but you said you didn't.
Starting point is 01:08:42 No, I did it. So I'd rather just, you know, like, hey, if that's something, the only way that they could get me out, then I'm winning. If that is the only way you could find ways to get me out because you can't do it in the ring, I'm winning life.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I'm winning. I'm winning big time. And I'd rather just keep it like that. I don't come in here with a full squad. I'm not like that. I think it takes a real man to go and do his things in a mafia, a mafioso world and still hold it down to the teeth and just be like, I'm going to do what I do.
Starting point is 01:09:14 And ain't nobody going to stop me. Okay, what about this one? This is the last one. When you was frustrated with Top Ring. What's up? And you said, if they want the black fighters, they can keep them. What'd that mean? I look at it like, yeah, I just want to start some chaos.
Starting point is 01:09:33 You start some chaos. Let it be known. Conflict. What is everything in life in this world and politics and all that? It starts with what? Conflict. What chaos? Conflict.
Starting point is 01:09:45 What have you lost outside of, you know, not being listed as undisputed? But what have you lost behind the scenes that keeps you on that easy? And it seems like you step in real careful. now like where does that come from um i think it's just uh you got to plan out your years feel me i don't went broke already like twice i ain't trying to deal that no more feel me eventually people going to blackmail you and do all this extra stuff and that's cool you learn with it but knowing that you got a family knowing you got all these things you can't just go off of the work field thinking that it's always going to be there what you mean by field just work field
Starting point is 01:10:21 I'm just stupid. Two other female, ladies and gentlemen. He is so stupid. On the 31st of January. Don't even fall for it. You can, yeah, you can swat one of them. One good time. There's one good time.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Theo Fian on Lopez. No, I do got one more question for him. What's that? When you're in the ring and you see, you know, when you see your opponents, right, what lets them know, what lets you know that they're, like, mentally broken? Not just physically, but mentally, like,
Starting point is 01:10:49 okay, I got them mentally. I guess it's my um my stance right away they feel that aura they feel that energy right away I see their eyes is different you can see a lot in a person with their eyes so I always look at the eyes so I don't know maybe it's just what I don't know how hard I do punch but when I punch them changes right changes quick so yeah you know I think that's really it yeah man why Why you got one of them shakers? Man, when I tell you. He gave me a joke yesterday.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Well, that's not a joke, but he's been jerking that since he gave us a gift of a box. He gave me a Christmas gift of a day. He wants you to ask him a little. Here, pops, pops, you want to? The fight is the 31st. Good luck. Fighters you should call Stevenson.
Starting point is 01:11:40 At the garden, get your tickets if you haven't got them already. And it's the breakfast club. Good morning. Yes, it is the breakfast club. But I'm the only one in here right now. Oh, there you go. Yes, it's the world's most dangerous
Starting point is 01:11:49 morning to show the breakfast. Club. It's time for the latest with Lauren. Lauren becoming a straight fat. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the detail. I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on this. The latest with Lauren LaRosa.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest. On the breakfast club. L.L. Cool, Bay. Good morning. Okay, y'all. So yesterday, there was a cameraman. going back to the Diddy doc There was a cameraman who released a statement
Starting point is 01:12:24 To Rolling Stone Now this cameraman I told you guys this on December 1st But the difference is The cameraman is now coming out and actually putting his name on it But on December 1st and it's December 12th now I told you guys that When we were trying to figure out how Netflix got this exclusive footage of Diddy
Starting point is 01:12:40 Recording himself right before he was locked up Lauren Larosa had the story first Yes So I told you guys then that Diddy was in conversation for a Netflix documentary that Netflix denies. They denied that conversation. But he was in this conversation
Starting point is 01:12:53 allegedly. There was things being recorded because he had been working on his own documentary of some sort. His main person that he hired for to shoot this documentary was out of town. So they hired a third party
Starting point is 01:13:05 to come in and shoot for a few days. And that person is the person who Netflix has been dealing with now. So that whole story about did he not paying the camera people? That wasn't true. False. Well, let me tell you.
Starting point is 01:13:15 So the rep. at the time had told me they didn't really know for sure they were trying to figure it all out they believe that money wasn't paid because basically they're still trying to figure out liability I talked to them yesterday after this statement was released they're still trying to figure out liability because they don't know who the issue falls on at first they believe that the camera the third party camera people were not paid and that's why they owned it and were able to potentially license it but now it sounds like because they've spoken to this main you know videographer that that is not true and this guy came out and basically said
Starting point is 01:13:47 you know I was away for three days I was out of town I hired a third party person that person filmed Diddy for a couple days which is wild by the way anyway I'm gonna hire a third person that we all don't know to come in here and shoot private video that's wild he doesn't get into with their like how
Starting point is 01:14:03 deep their relationship went so maybe it was a third party that he worked for before or that he hires on other projects a lot of times you know if you're a smaller company you do that with this type of content but go ahead yeah but um yeah so basically now he's standing on he's saying that there is no issue about money that this is an issue
Starting point is 01:14:19 about like what you could legally do not do and you know just morally what you shouldn't have done like he's basically saying that this guy was in the wrong now Netflix back on December 1st gave me a statement I did reach out to them for something additional now that this guy is you know coming out and standing on what he said
Starting point is 01:14:35 but they haven't given me anything new but back on December 1st or right after that they said to me that they obtained everything legally and that anything saying anything against that is false and they're standing on that so yeah now so now we know how the video made it to 50s doc well you knew on December 1st was my point yeah you knew from the ladies of the Lowe's on the breakfast
Starting point is 01:14:56 club was my point you know but I'll make sure that I uh you know do all the things to make sure that you guys can see it I guess more places or something because people was acting like they didn't know and I'm like I told you all that two weeks ago we could go but talk your talk LL Cool Bay yeah thank you for the bomb I never got a bomb okay keep all right all right all right I'm so traumatized um speaking of the Netflix doc though y'all remember dame dash was up here talking about the doc would never come out
Starting point is 01:15:22 how did we forget exactly so he did an interview with the ladies of POV point of view and they asked him how does he feel now that the doc has come out let's take a list in the dame dash it was trending the the ditty cone was reckoning
Starting point is 01:15:38 did you check it out yeah so what okay so we know that you were saying that it was not going to come out so how do you feel that it actually I honestly thought, you know, based on, like, moral codes and, like, coming from where, like, a street ethic, I honestly didn't think that he would ever do that. Why, though? Because I wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:15:56 That would have, you know the thing he has done. Because it's just not my job to tell. I'm not a black man that's going to tear another black man now. Let them do that. But also, you know, like if somebody, you know, again, allegedly, it just seems like somebody, you know, violated his baby mother in front of his kid. You know, so, yeah, but that's not how we deal with things from where we're from. Did you check him on the back end?
Starting point is 01:16:17 Hey, yo. I know y'all girls, but I'm not answering that. But what I'm saying, okay, okay. No, no, no, no, Dame. That's not the reason you said the doc wasn't coming out. You actually didn't give a reason, but you didn't make it a moral cold thing. No. Cut it out.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Yeah. And why does he always use the black man tearing down another black man called? What do he said? I wouldn't let a black man tear down another black man on a white person's platform. You let a white artist do a dish record to camera on a 50 cent? Oh, he sure did. You let your white artist,
Starting point is 01:16:51 you let your white artist do a disc record to camera on the 50 cents. Oh, the white alia? Yes. That's the white area. Come on, Dame, now. Let's come on. Let's keep it consistent.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Yeah, and he also says in this interview with the ladies of POV on Afro TV that he actually got reached out to by TMZ. I'm assuming when they were doing whatever documentaries and he told them no because he said he would never sit on a white men's platform and down another black men. but they also
Starting point is 01:17:15 that's what he said now they they also asked him what is his YouTube what is social media y'all do know when y'all on these platforms talking about other black people these white people platforms right
Starting point is 01:17:28 y'all do know that right maybe it feel black to him because he puts like music under it or something oh shut up go ahead man they also asked him what his issue is with y'all let's take a listen when you went to the breakfast club interview even though you're saying you're going to
Starting point is 01:17:43 sue them really for defamation in all its words, right? Yeah, 100%. You and Charlemagne sat there and called each other names back and forth and you said that he was a... No, no, my problem is... I'm sorry. I think he is. So... Okay, I was going to ask you that, but do you really think that he is?
Starting point is 01:17:58 Deformation. That's my opinion, but I'm not... That's not why I'm mad at him. I'm mad. The defamation comes from him saying I was lying about... So I showed him my docu-series in the trailer for my paid and full. He said I was
Starting point is 01:18:13 lying you cannot do that but that's an opinion this if i show you something how am i lying if i show you i can show you the sky is blue but you can't show you that's not true that's not true that's that doesn't happen like that you can't get on here right and i tell you a truth show it to you and you discredit me knowing that's a lie you cannot call me a liar and it's a lie you cannot do that so what he said i was lying about was saying i didn't show him my paid in fool. The n-a-said I had on dirty sneakers and I had on clean ones. It could be petty, but it's...
Starting point is 01:18:47 I don't understand. He is so upset that you said that to him. Why would you do that? Those forces was filthy. All right, funky-ass forces. Okay, those forces look like the sneakers I'd cut grass in, Dame. All right? That's how you interpret it? When you're looking at your view?
Starting point is 01:19:02 That's how you interpret it? Those are forces you slip on and take the trash out. You know, when you put your sneakers on and they already kind of like, they push down in the back a little bit. The back is pushing it to get your feet right in? That's the kind of forces. had on. What's wrong with you, man?
Starting point is 01:19:16 That sneaker line hurt his soul. You hear me? It's it. It's it. And like, it's the holidays. Calm the laugh down a bit. I'm going to send them some forces for Christmas.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Oh, my God. I'm going to send them some fresh forces. This kid's out there that really need sneakers. You better not send them them. You know what? You're right. You said some dirty ones. You absolutely right.
Starting point is 01:19:34 Yeah, well, as we wrap the out. Salute the dame, though. Oh, really? How are you going to say all that in this thing? Exactly. Salute the day. Okay. Well, as we wrap the hour, I did what briefly, I want to give an update. So Sharon Moore, who was the coach at Michigan, University of Michigan. I mean, we know that he's, we haven't reported it, but it's been reported and the team has made a statement that he is out of a job after they did an investigation. They said they found credible evidence that he was in an inappropriate relationship with the staffer. And people are waiting to figure out like what is actually happening. They're waiting on charges. There was a 911 audio that TMZ released. where there's a woman claiming
Starting point is 01:20:12 that there's a coach attacking her and this coach is suspected to be suicidal, but Sharon Moore is supposed to go into court today and so we'll... What is he charged with? Because you said he caught in court. What was he charged with? Bunny hopping.
Starting point is 01:20:26 What? That's not a charge. Is that? Only Dr. Umar charge is there. Dr. Uman's country. Yeah, so they said, so the prosecutor's office over there says that he remained behind bars as they do the investigation into assault claims now
Starting point is 01:20:41 alleged assault claims now right now we don't know that's why everybody's waiting on like him to actually go to court so we can know what are they put in the assault to or not to like what exactly is it with degree of it like we really don't know anything so that's why I'm letting people know he's headed into court today I'm assuming I did
Starting point is 01:20:58 ask the prosecutor's office if they'll be doing like a press conference or anything after to kind of answer some questions because there's just a lot of this came as a surprise to a lot of people how many more examples do men need to just be faithful like seriously like how many more Was he married? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Yes, he was married. I don't know the case. Damn. How many more examples do we need to just be faithful? And how old was he? 39. He should have got it out of his system a long time. Oh, you looked into that.
Starting point is 01:21:21 You'd be knowing the examples, huh? Oh, you think I had a whole conversation with that with my wife yesterday. That's what we was talking about in the gym yesterday. And I was watching a good piece that Jason Wilson did. You know, salute to the good brother Jason Wilson. Jason Wilson did a fantastic piece about just men needing to have discipline. You got to have that de-discipline. You just have to when you were in certain positions.
Starting point is 01:21:43 This guy was making $5.5 million a year as the coach for the University of Michigan football team. You know, you're a married man with three kids. You got to move accordingly. We don't say black men don't cheat for no reason. That's right. Because it's not, you know, you know, you're getting triggered.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Black men don't cheat. I literally just got triggered. You didn't see me? Black men. But I know you mean black boys, black men. But also black men, comma, don't cheat. That's both ways. Tell him black men, don't cheat.
Starting point is 01:22:08 You understand? What do you have meant? I don't want to talk about it. All right. She got cheated. Once we get some verified reports, so I'll be back, guys. All right. Sholomey, what we're doing, donkey today?
Starting point is 01:22:16 It's Friday. Four after the hour is the people's donkey. Okay, 1-800-5-85-105-1. You can call up and give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid right now. That's right. We'll get into that. And then after that, Shakor Stevenson will be joining us. Boxer.
Starting point is 01:22:27 He's fighting January 31st at the Garden. We'll talk to him in a minute. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's your time to nominate a donkey of your own. Remember now. That's how. They choose.
Starting point is 01:22:41 Call in now. 800-585-105-1. Donkey today for Friday, December 12, is the people's donkey. You know how we do. You can call up right now, 1-800-8-5-10-1 and give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid. You can give somebody the biggest he-ha. So, good morning.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Who's this? Yo, this is Nick. Nick, who you want to get the biggest he-ha-to-Sir? Man, I got to give it to Savannah State University, man. What's Savannah State do to you? Man, check it out. Man, I had to take off work. Me and my wife had to take off work
Starting point is 01:23:12 to go get our daughter from school because, you know, it's about to be Christmas break or whatever, and they got these kids having to check out by noon. If you don't get your kid off the campus by noon, they get like a $200-something fine. We spend all this money, put our kids in the school. It's an HBCU, and we've got to all the way from Atlanta. It's like a four-and-a-half-hour draw.
Starting point is 01:23:31 I leave a light six in the morning just to get our kid from school. And, like, the tuition is crazy. So I just feel like they should get the kids to leave. through the weekends. And some kids' family might not be able to get their kids in time. Yeah, I don't understand that. Why they're treating y'all like a hotel?
Starting point is 01:23:45 Why you got to check out? The reason they do that is... Well, it depends. You know, because when I went to Hampton, they didn't really kick us out. I know a lot of the students, a lot of the teachers and the RAs wanted to leave
Starting point is 01:23:56 so they give them a time so they can leave and catch their flights. That was the reason why, because, you know, people got to leave as well. That's probably the reason why. True, but they still got security. You know what I mean? And we played for the meal plan and all that.
Starting point is 01:24:06 They can leave you through the weekend. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, they want your kids about it. Yeah, they want them about it. But I want to tell y'all real quick, man, because I appreciate y'all for what y'all do, man. It's 15-year anniversary. I know it was a 15-year anniversary.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Yes, sir. I've been to support y'all since day one, man, and y'all keep on going. And I just want to say that I feel like y'all voice is bigger than the news now because we ain't watching it. A lot of people ain't watching news. I feel like we should more, but y'all got a bigger voice in the news these day
Starting point is 01:24:34 because we're tuning in from all different types of people, thugs, working people, kids, y'all really bigger than the news. You know what I'm saying? We're going to come to y'all before we believe what they're telling us on the news because the time the news ain't real. So I just appreciate what y'all do, man. Hey, thank you, Ken. We appreciate you, man. All right, y'all, man. Yes, sir. Good morning. Who's this? Eric.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Eric? Hi, Shala. What's up? What's up? Eric. Who do you want to get the biggest he-haught-to, Eric? I have to say, I love you guys. I love you, but I got to give it to you. It's not, you know, I know you're a faithful person. but once a week you're always using the Lord's name in vain and saying Jesus blank So I just want you to tone that down
Starting point is 01:25:16 Because I know that yes, exactly Why can't I call on Jesus? You ain't supposed to use the Lord's name in vain The way you say it When you're talking to people When you... No, sometimes... Do your research
Starting point is 01:25:26 I think sometimes when we hear... You're not supposed to say you. No, but I think, I think I don't like when people say that And I'm going to tell you why Whenever you hear something that's like I guess evil or bad.
Starting point is 01:25:38 I think that's the person you should be calling on. You're not supposed to use the noise name in vain. No matter what, you're not supposed to use it in the way that is negative like that,
Starting point is 01:25:48 a negative connotation. So that's all I wanted to say. I love you, man. I love what you bring out. And I do agree with you. Sometimes it does happen, but I just want you to give you the donkey just for that reason.
Starting point is 01:26:01 It's not all the time, but there's times where you say it, and I'm like, oh, please don't say it like that. Jesus Christ, man. All right, brother. Good morning. Who's this?
Starting point is 01:26:11 Good morning, Shaliman, y'all. This is Roxy. Peace, Roxy. Who you want to get the biggest he haul to? Okay, I want to get the biggest he haul to Chey and everybody that's giving her a platform to tell her life. Oh, shoot, what Dr. Cheyenne did to you? Okay, I'm not calling on her accolades. I can't question her accolades.
Starting point is 01:26:28 But every interview she does, she got a different storyline. She told me Cannon that she was engaged full time. She's telling everybody else she was engaged two. time. She said her mom and dad was pregnant at 16, 15, 17, 17. She also says he got, her dad got six kids, then her dad got seven kids. She's so secretive. You might think she's a merit side. Like, she'd be lying. I didn't watch all her interview. I can study this lady. She read a script. She got word for word based on it. I'm Robert Smith. This is Jacob Goldstein. And we used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History about
Starting point is 01:27:06 The best ideas and people and businesses in history. And some of the worst people. Horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history of business. Having a genius idea without a need for it is nothing. It's like not having it at all. It's a very simple, elegant lesson. Make something people want. First episode, how Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline business.
Starting point is 01:27:33 The Most Texas Story ever. There's a lot of mavericks in that story. We're going to have mavericks on the show. We're going to have plenty of robber barons. So many robber barons. And you know what? They're not all bad. And we'll talk about some of the classic great moments of famous business geniuses,
Starting point is 01:27:46 along with some of the darker moments that often get overlooked. Like Thomas Edison and the electric chair. Listen to business history on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. May 24th, 1990. A pipe bomb explodes in the front seat of an... environmental activist Judy Berry's car. I knew it was a bomb the second that it exploded. I felt it ripped through me with just a force more powerful
Starting point is 01:28:15 and terrible than anything that I could describe. In season two of Rip Current, we asked, who tried to kill Judy Barry and why? She received death threats before the bombing. She received more threats after the bombing. The man and woman who were heard had planned to lead a summer of militant protest against logging practices in Northern California.
Starting point is 01:28:36 They were climbing trees and they were sabotaging logging equipment in the woods. The timber industry, I mean, it was the number one industry in the area, but more than it was the culture. It was the way of life. I think that this is a deliberate attempt to sabotage our movement. Episodes of Rip Current Season 2 are available now. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, Dr. Lori Santos from the Happiness Lab here. It's the season of giving, which is why most of giving.
Starting point is 01:29:06 My podcast is partnering with Give Directly, a nonprofit that provides people in extreme poverty with the cash they need. This year, we're taking part in the Pods Fight Poverty campaign. And it's not just the Happiness Lab. Some of my favorite podcasters are also taking part. Think Jay Shetty from On Purpose, Dan Harris from 10% Happier, and Dave Desteno from How God Works and more. Our goal this year is to raise $1 million, which will help over 700 families in Rwanda living in extreme poverty. Here's how it works. You donate to give directly, and they put that cash directly into the hands of families in need.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Because those families know best what they need, whether it's buying livestock to fertilize their farm, paying school fees, or starting a small business. With that support, families can invest in their future and build lasting change. So join me and your favorite podcasters in the PODS Fight Poverty campaign. Head to give directly.org slash happiness lab to learn more and make a contribution. And if you're a first-time donor, giving multiplier will even match your gift. That's give directly.org slash happiness lab to donate. For 25 years, I've explored what it means to heal, not just for myself, but alongside others.
Starting point is 01:30:20 I'm Mike De La Rocha. This is Sacred Lessons, a space for reflection, growth, and collective healing. What do you tell men that are hurting right now? Everything's going to be okay. on the other side, you know, just push through it. And, you know, ironically, the root of the word spirit is breath. Wow. Which is why one of the most revolutionary acts that we can do as peoples just breathe.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Next to the wound is their gifts. You can't even find your gifts unless you go through the wound. That's the hard thing. You think, well, I'm going to get my guess. I don't want to go through all that. You've got to go through the wounds you're laughing. Listening to other people's near-death experiences, and it's all they say. In conclusion, love is the answer.
Starting point is 01:31:02 to Sacred Lessons as part of the My Kutura Podcast Network, available on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Radhi Dvlukaya, and I am the host of a really good cry podcast. This week, I am joined by Anna Runkle, also known as the crappy childhood fairy, a creator, teacher, and guide helping people heal from the lasting emotional wounds of unsafe or chaotic childhoods.
Starting point is 01:31:28 We talk about how the things we went through when we were younger can still show up in our adult lives, in our relationships, our reactions, even in the way we feel in our own bodies. And Anna opens up about her own story, what helped her notice the patterns she was stuck in and how she slowly started teaching her body that it is safe now.
Starting point is 01:31:45 So when I got attacked, it was very random. Four guys jumped out of a car and just started beating me and my friend. And they broke my jaw on my teeth. I was unconscious. Then I woke up and I screamed. And I screamed because, even though I didn't know who I was or where I was,
Starting point is 01:32:00 something in me was just like, hold on, wait. They could kill me, and I'm not going to let that happen. I'm not going to let that happen. I'm going to get through this, and I did. Listen to a really good cry on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. She controlled her narrative. She's fake. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:32:16 If she was in the hood, she'd get beat up every day. So she's fake. Why she got to get beat up? God damn. Because she's fake. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not questioning her afflades, whether she about her or not, but everything that she talked about is scripted. She said it worth a word on every interview,
Starting point is 01:32:35 but then she'd be talking so fast she allowed real quick and then just go past it. All right, well, thank you for calling. Good morning. Who's DeAngelo from Illinois? How are you? DeAngelo from Illinois. Who do you want to get the biggest he hard to, sir? First, I got to say, man, I appreciate y'all. Y'all are the most diverse people on the radio.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Secondly, I need to give all the hammer tones you got to my baby mama, Lenita. Oh, now you are the donkey of the day. You are the donkey of the day. Oh, the day. Yee-ha. But being the worst baby mama on the planet, she deserves three donkeys other day.
Starting point is 01:33:19 Having my second, well, her second child, that we went and to get an abortion, you know what I mean, agree with least she didn't get it, and now she wants to get a child back. She only won't even no boy. She needs three donkeys other day for being an unfit mother. Wait a man, what you mean, get a child back? Who should go get a child back to you?
Starting point is 01:33:34 Man, listen to me, man. Like, I'm a little older, man, and we agreed to have an abortion. She didn't have it. Had four other kids after my son, and now don't want my son no more. She was just looking for a bag. Guys, watch out a bag chase. So are you going to go get your son? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:33:51 Okay, okay. Absolutely. I'm a good dad. You know what I mean? But it's just the fact of I wasn't trying to do that. and she forced the hand thinking she was going to get some money and now she don't even want them
Starting point is 01:34:01 but remember this is number two of six so she keeps in the other five but don't want mine so you're number two and she had four more after you said four more after me her name Lenito
Starting point is 01:34:12 shout her out no you just did sir have a great day we do this every freaking Friday okay the people's donkey you can call up and give somebody the credit they deserve
Starting point is 01:34:23 for being stupid or you can go to the iHeart radio app go to our talkback feature and leave a message for whoever you want to get the biggest he hard to, man. So what we got coming up next? Yeah, when we come back, Shakur Stevenson will be joining us. He's boxing January 31st at the garden, and we're going to talk to him next. And we're going to talk to him next. So don't move.
Starting point is 01:34:41 It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Salomey and the guy, we are the Breakfast Club. Long Lawn LaRose is here, and so is our guy Ack. And we got a special guest in the building.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Chikor Stevenson. Welcome, brother. What up? What up? How are you feeling? He's great. Fight the 31st. Uh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:59 31st of January, Madison Square Garden. Yep, yep, yep, yep. We're ready, bro. Let's jump right into us. So how you feel in fighting Tio Fima? What do you think is going to be? Honestly, this is a moment I've been kind of waiting for my whole career. Waiting on that big name.
Starting point is 01:35:12 You finally got one. Yeah, it's like I've been kind of like pushing. Since I started, I want to fight the best fighters. So now in this situation, I kind of reached out and I kind of set it up to where we kind of made this happen. Tio accepted the challenge so I respect him for it Now we've seen Tio earlier And I was watching that
Starting point is 01:35:33 He didn't seem like regular Tio You know I don't like that too But you wanted to call you a monkey No I don't want to call you a monkey I just know He's usually more like R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R I'd rather see the version that kind of
Starting point is 01:35:51 I've been planning to fight for years Yeah but people would be complaining about that version like he's saying wow it's too wild it's too crazy so he i guess people forced him to be this new version yeah but people shouldn't dictate who you are like if you're a real man bro at the end of the day bro just be yourself and whether they like you or love you ain't nothing going to change as long as the people around you love you so he tried to throw a shot at you about that same topic saying that shakur lets the people get to him and that's why he forced a pay to the way he did do you agree with that to some degree yeah no i think that um zepeda got a
Starting point is 01:36:25 style to where if Tio fought Zepeda, he probably would have to fight him the same way. I never seen him in front of that kind of style throughout his whole career. Now, he fought some good fighters, but honestly, his best opponent was Limichenko, and I felt like I'm not going to take away credit from him, but I feel as though Lemachango ain't throw no punches for six rounds.
Starting point is 01:36:49 So it's like, I can't really tell, like, how good you is. I don't know what happened with Limichenko. But do you think something he did maybe? Had Loma hesitant? I don't know. I wasn't in there to know whether, like, what happened, but I just know for a fact that Loma started the fight in the second half. And when he did, I thought he took over the second half of the fight.
Starting point is 01:37:08 So it's hard to say to give him that much credit for being Loma. So you think Loma won that fight? No, I thought T Loma won the fight. Okay. I want to say he won the first seven rounds. Right. Okay. And maybe even won the 12.
Starting point is 01:37:22 He definitely won the 12. Phil said that your defense isn't as elite as people think it is. It's an impeccable. I disagree with him, but he said he don't think it's as impeccable as people think it is. I mean, he ain't been in there with me to know whether how good it is. Sparring ain't going to tell. We did three rounds. That shit ain't.
Starting point is 01:37:42 He couldn't barely hit me then. I'm not taking nothing from the sparring, but he don't know whether how good I am. Like, you don't know how good my defense is until come January 1st. he pretty much said your style of box and he said he's beat hundreds of fighters with your style of bars 200 south paws
Starting point is 01:38:00 he said it's light work man that's the thing where he got to like pay attention too because it's like yeah you did good with some south paws but then there are
Starting point is 01:38:10 south paws you did bad with so it's not just okay I beat Limonchenko and Josh Taylor but then you fought Jermaine Ortiz and Sandra Martin and they are two south paws who both gave you trouble
Starting point is 01:38:22 So, that's a good point It gave him confidence to beat them Bigger guys that got the bigger names But his confidence went down When he fought them other guys So truthfully All that South part of shit That's sound good
Starting point is 01:38:35 But what you're gonna do And get in front of me I'm not none of them guys He did say that on paper His toughest test Do you feel the same way? Yeah, hell yeah We both know
Starting point is 01:38:45 What we're dealing with Like I know he's the truth He know I'm the truth When I sat there I watched them in Times Square He was doing a lot like Roy Jones kind of like he put his hands down
Starting point is 01:38:55 do the little flashy stuff so I know the truth I think he's the guy and I appreciate him because he's the guy who's going to take me to that next level Right Are you surprised he agreed to the fight?
Starting point is 01:39:09 Not really Not really Honestly he won in those fighters Who I think that really believe in itself And you could tell like Deep down He's been waiting for
Starting point is 01:39:19 Opportunity just as much as me So I think in this instant The only thing that I would say, we should be thanking each other for the fact that we both said yes and we both hungry and want this moment. So, I ain't surprised. You know, when Floyd Ford, Paco, they had to run into each other and they had to actually talk about it amongst themselves. Did you and T.O. actually have a real conversation before everybody else get involved. Like, yo, let's fight, bro. We did.
Starting point is 01:39:43 We did. We actually got on the phone. T. O'Connor was trying to let me know that he was getting other options. And he basically told me that the option that he wanted to fight was me. And I'm like, okay, that's the option that I want to fight too. So I had the options on the table too. So both you had different options. Yeah, but once we got on the phone, we kind of locked it in, and we stuck with what we said.
Starting point is 01:40:04 And I appreciate him for keeping his word. Can you tell me what options were those that you turned down? What fighters you had on? I ain't turned down. No, not like that, but who you picked Tio over? Lamont. Okay, so that was on paper. I wanted to fight Lamont.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Me and Lamont was a fight to really make happen. but the Tio fight was bigger. It was a bigger, better opportunity, so I went and took the Tio fight over the Lamar fight. What do you think about Roach's last fight? I thought he won. I thought he may as should never let off the gas in them last two rounds,
Starting point is 01:40:35 but I thought when you see Pit Bull get on the back foot and start boxing and thinking that he's winning a boxing match, I think that right there should let it be known that Lamont Roaches winning his fight. So when you, like so you pick up. Tio over Lamont so I don't know how it works like you can't fight Lamont now yeah I can fight him after I beat Tio but uh like I say it's it's so many options on the table now to where it's like even with this Tio fight it's going to open doors for other fights to happen so
Starting point is 01:41:06 it's hard to even say if Lamont will be next um I would love for Lamont to be next I think that that's a big fight that's something that me and him talked about and I'm actually real cool with Lamont so um I would love for that fight to happen but we'll see when the opportunity sense yourself. Do you view this fight as like personal, strategic, or legacy driven? I think it's all three. It's all three. Now, I don't try to take things personal, but it's personal for me. Like, it's in my personal life. I want to be the best. Like, that's all I've been striving for since I started this. So now it's just like the legacy I know going to come with it. Strategy is going to be on point to where I make sure I've got to follow the game plan come
Starting point is 01:41:48 fight night but personally for me and my kid for me and my family like I want to just I want to eat forever is this the biggest pay that you gotten so far sure no question I got to ask you about jake poor because you spent some time in camp with him sparring with him then you and kishon did as well you don't know so no boy he was there with y'all yeah for sure so most people that haven't spent time around Jake have an issue with him fighting fighters I'm saying but once they spend some time around they have a different perspective of who he is Is that your experience with Jake? I've been around before.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Before that, okay, so I kind of already had a view of, like, he's really a cool dude. Right. People could talk about him, but if somebody can come to a sport to wear, like, women's boxing, let's speak for example with them, they don't get no attention, they don't get no love, and they deserve it. Right. And then Jake Paul shons a light that's bright on them female fighters, and now they're making millions of dollars.
Starting point is 01:42:45 It's like, at the end of the day, you've got to respect him for, moving into a lane and helping out somewhere where it was weak at. You got to respect him as a person, too. I think J-Paul is a real... And as a fighter, too. I mean, what about that? I mean, I respect him as a fighter because he's working hard to get to where he's at. Has he gotten better, though?
Starting point is 01:43:07 Hell yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Like, from where he started until now, he's way better. How did he feel, did he have power? Did he touch you in the ring? Like, how did that feel like? What was that like? I remember him, like, catching me. like catching my glove
Starting point is 01:43:20 and when he caught my glove, I'm like, oh he was heavy. Yeah, he's like 200-something pounds, so you're going to feel it, but um... That's going to do nothing to AJ. Ain't a... 2-60? I don't know. I'm one... I can he tell you all. So he ain't got a shot against AJ. A.J. ain't going to kill
Starting point is 01:43:38 him, in other words. I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. I'm going to I'm room for both of us. I'm a fan of Jake Paul, so I can't go against that dude. It's hard for me I feel you 100% I respect what he's done for women's boxing
Starting point is 01:43:52 I've gone to some of the MVP fights for women's boxing but he's gonna get killed But I still respect And AJ ain't holding back He's come on But I respect his heart Getting in the ring with AJ
Starting point is 01:44:02 I do think when it comes down to it With AJ been boxing for so long Olympic gold medalist He's sure going there and just wipe him But we'll see We'll see come fight night Is tank still I know that was like a fight for you
Starting point is 01:44:18 But there's been so much him not fighting Jake Paul at this point. And just, you know, like, is that even something you even, like, care about at this point? What are you about to do with Lopez? Yeah, I'm honestly done with that. I ain't really got too much to say on that because it's like, it's a lose-lose situation. Like, it's a lot of people that just hate me to hate me. But they don't really understand the situation of the facts. So it's like when you speak on this, like you shine a light to the situation.
Starting point is 01:44:41 So I ain't really talking about it. But I'm locked in. It's me and Teal. That's a big fight. That's legacy, making, fight, and I just can't wait to show where I am. And those top names at 35 was, it was obviously Tank, Devin, Tio. You're about to fight one of them, right? This fight that we won a few years is about to happen.
Starting point is 01:45:02 So is Devin on your list next, so you could keep going on that list? I would love to fight Devin. I would love to fight Devin. The only thing is because a lot of people kind of compare me saying that all the fight kind of been with Devin Haney and I understand it but the thing that I said even with Kahnabin
Starting point is 01:45:21 I would want the same weight clause as he put on UBank, yeah, yeah and that's what I want come fight night with Kahnabin now when I go to 47 with Devin is he's going to allow the same weight clause like it's
Starting point is 01:45:35 it becomes a business like how are we going to do this fight and if he do shit it's locked in game So Konda Ben is still on the list I will as always as the reaction course. should be next, but I'm not trying to look past Teal. So, like, Tio is really the main
Starting point is 01:45:50 thing that's on my mom, but I'm just answering the questions for you out. No doubt. What mental adjustments are you making specifically for Tio? I think we both got a lot of mental adjustments to make because both of us mentally is like
Starting point is 01:46:05 we always trying to please the fans and put on shows for the fans. I think we got to make sure that we locking in on our game plan and the person with the best game plan is going to come out on top. What do you feel about all the racism thing that's been coming around around them in the last couple of months?
Starting point is 01:46:25 I don't believe it. I don't believe it. I think that T.O. is not racist. I think that he's clout chasing. Like, that's what I really seen from it. Like, it's a guy who's been looked past his whole career and he's doing anything to get some type of spotlight on him. And that's what I kind of seen from the situation.
Starting point is 01:46:44 because I know him Tio for years and years he ain't never really been no racist person so not I don't know that's what he just said he said that he was like I'm just trying to cause chaos because trying to sell his fight He wanted to be in the spotlight Like people look past him Like even in this situation
Starting point is 01:46:59 The fight was not going to happen Like this was a fight that wasn't going to happen until I'm like yo boom I'm looking through the playing field right before my last fight I'm like Tio and I kind of told the higher powers and the people in the
Starting point is 01:47:14 position that me and Tio's the fight. That's the biggest fight. They really ain't want Tio. Tio ain't no like truthfully like but you know um like I said I appreciate him for saying yes and he appreciated me for making happen. He said he didn't send the watermelons and bananas to Kishan's
Starting point is 01:47:30 locker room. You believe that? You believe that? Hell no I don't think he did that shit. For real? No I don't think he did that I think that he chose the internet during his fight week where it's like um with the banana but I don't think
Starting point is 01:47:44 he sent it to his room, though. Who do you think did it? Listen, some people were saying, some people saying that top, you heard the room was about top rank, did it themselves to create some motion? No, I know. It is crazy, but he said that,
Starting point is 01:48:01 Tio said that on the show, like, I think they did it. He said you know, though. Oh, you said you know? No, I don't know. No, I don't know. But I told him who I think it is. Like, you could make your own speculation, so, yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Press conference today, he got a banana. Kishan, you jumping out of this, you're jumping on them, huh? As soon as you see it. They're all, right, right. You better get up out of here. Uh-oh, wait, real quick, though. I know you train me off. I got a flight, that's what I said, Daddy.
Starting point is 01:48:26 I got a flight. Are you going to Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua? You're going to the fight? When is it? He's out for 10 days. Oh, no, I ain't going. I'm in, I'm in Canada. You got to, I'm locked.
Starting point is 01:48:38 You're locked in. I'm locked. This is the biggest fight in my career, bro. I've got to be at a different level. than I've been in a past. Yeah, yeah. You've got to elevate, yeah. I'm excited about this one.
Starting point is 01:48:48 Yeah. All right. We appreciate you for joining us the 31st is the fight January. We wish you the best, brother. Appreciate y'all too. Yes, sir. All right.
Starting point is 01:48:56 It's the Breakfast Club. It's your course, Stevenson. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Sholamey and the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. It's time for past the Oaks.
Starting point is 01:49:06 Go. Go, go, go. Hey, DJ, because that's my DJ. Say, go, DJ, because that's my DJ. Yep. Nyla! Naela! Yeah, DJ, come spin, I come spin.
Starting point is 01:49:21 A lot of new music today, Naila. What you got, Simone? It's a big music day. It's too much music today. I was overwhelmed, but we're going to have to do a part two next week. So I'm going to kick it off because I got a lot of records today. I'm going to start with 21 Savage. All right.
Starting point is 01:49:36 121 Savage and Drake with Mr. to recoup. Adam to the list like a good to lust Hey It's the most comfortable I've heard 21 rapping ever And I've always liked 21
Starting point is 01:50:15 But he sounds so in pocket on this album man I ain't hit an album yet But I'm a 21 fan I love that I like that record I heard a few days ago My man We know you heard it before us man
Starting point is 01:50:25 I could have heard it a couple of weeks ago But I don't have time Why you ain't sure to whoa Why we didn't all get to Yeah you don't got a flex like that Why we didn't all get to hear it? I was driving in the car I was actually commuting
Starting point is 01:50:35 And Mizi hit me up Anyway yes 21 album Okay, all right. Yes, 21 Savage album out now. You know, obviously the Nause and Premier Project dropped today. I know you had the jacket on, but I didn't pick a record from them. You didn't pick a record from Nogh. I didn't. Even though I did listen, I really like to join with Daylaw, but we'll get into it next week. Um, the next record I want to highlight today is Pushai-Ci. This is his first record out. Um, his first record that he dropped since he's been released. It's called FDO. Man, drop on the clues bones of Poo Shicey!
Starting point is 01:51:03 Hey! That's home. Man, salute to my cousin, Pern. Tony, we was literally just talking about push ice to yesterday and I poohy ice they ain't dropped no music and he came out with something hard. You picked that shooting us. I really don't think he would appreciate the shake weight. I shake weight the block. I'll shake weight the block. Okay, I'm 47. I ain't pulling up with no blocks and nothing.
Starting point is 01:51:22 I'm going to shake wheat on. I'm going to turn that poot to you and roll the window down and shake the weight. It's happening. It's the vein. It's the veins. It's the veins to me. I'm just glad he still so hard. Yeah, me too. Me too. I don't know what that was
Starting point is 01:51:39 He's like Salute the pool sexy That was dope You know the one thing A lot of times When people go to jail And they come out Sometimes they don't sound the same
Starting point is 01:51:47 They sound off But he sounds like he didn't miss a step No not at all He sounds fresh For sure Definitely he does All right next one I'm getting to
Starting point is 01:51:53 Is Chris Patrick With Doe Ramee His new project Just dropped today It's called pray for me That's the calmest I ever heard Chris Patrick On a record
Starting point is 01:52:00 Yeah That's why I picked it I never heard Chris Patrick Sound calm You like the hard rap I like both I like Chris Patrick. I think Chris Patrick is a dope artist.
Starting point is 01:52:08 I think that there's a new class and I think that it's like, and I don't want to put this on them because that's not right. But if I had to pick a big three of the new class, it'd be like Chris Patrick, Rubin, and Marco Plus. You know what I mean? Yes.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Of that new generation. Yeah. I just don't want to put that on them because, you know, it's a lot that comes with the big three stigma. You know, you think big three, you think Jay-Z, Biggie Nas, and you think, you know, Drake, Cole, Kendrick. I don't want to put that on them yet.
Starting point is 01:52:37 I'm just saying that if there was a big three of this new class, it would be those three guys. I think there's nothing wrong with acknowledging them in that way because it makes people pay attention to them. I just hope as people start to pay attention, the pressure doesn't come in to what you're saying. I like it. You like it.
Starting point is 01:52:54 Okay, yeah, no, that Chris Drane is hard. Chris Patrick was up here this week. Drop that interview today, man. His project came out today. It's called pray for me. Let's put that out, Eli. And Nick. Yay.
Starting point is 01:53:04 Yes, please. All right, my last one. is from Friday. He just dropped a quick little six piece EP and he has a record on there called Def Do Us Part featuring Mariah the Scientist.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Now, you know, a lot of people are kind of up in arms that Mariah the scientists decided to stay with Thug so she's kind of talking about it on this record. Are you always got to remind us you in love.
Starting point is 01:53:23 Like, we was cool. That was cool. We had the Pushite. Shout out the block and then the 21 going. We had the Chris Patrick going but you got to remind everybody you in love.
Starting point is 01:53:32 Oh, that are worse. Yeah, like, what? Damn. First of all, that. That was about Mariah to science and talking about thug. You didn't hear Mariah just now? That was Mariah. And then it's so worried about Niley.
Starting point is 01:53:43 You didn't even hear the song. Can I be happy? Yes, you can be. And your love is not traumatic. Not if you want to. It's happiness is a choice. I don't know. Happiness is a choice.
Starting point is 01:53:54 Anyway, if you guys like those records, you got something for those who are in love. We got something for those who want to turn up. I want the shake weight music, man. You want shapeway music? You see when he was shooting up the box? That pool shy-stie was going to all. That pull that back going so we can see him.
Starting point is 01:54:06 I feel shiasty was hard. 21 hard, too, though. All right. If you guys like those records, make sure you guys tune into the certified playlist. Now, I'm officially highlighting artists on these covers of the playlist. So once a month, it's always going to change. So for the first playlist cover, we got Chris Patrick.
Starting point is 01:54:22 So I'm excited about it. I'm about to reveal it on Instagram at 10 a.m. So make sure you guys check that out. But outside of that, make sure you guys pull up on me at the Eco. If you guys got your tickets this week, is me. Sadek select the Ninth Wonder, Rob Markman. in the building and... Real hip hop.
Starting point is 01:54:38 Yeah, Ad Naila Simone on IG NYL. You wear Tims in, you get in discounted before 11. That's not true. That's not true. Yeah. We sold out,
Starting point is 01:54:46 and if you do happen to see me at the door, you want to slide me some yeah, then maybe yeah, but okay. What the fuck? What the guy? If you give me some yeah, then you did a sniff? That's what you want to smoke?
Starting point is 01:54:57 No, I want some cats. Cocaine! Oh, you didn't say? You're like, fly me some yeah. Like, what? That ain't y'all doing cocaine? Who's kind of party is this? No, no drugs, no drug. Say no to drug.
Starting point is 01:55:09 Real creatives. No, don't put that on me. All right, Red, Envy, come on. They're killing me. We come back. We got the people's choice. Thanks, thank you. That was past the Alks.
Starting point is 01:55:18 It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess Hilarious. Sholomey and the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, salute to Chaucor Stevenson for joining us today.
Starting point is 01:55:27 Chaucor Stevenson and Tiofima Lopez. That's right. They'll be fighting on January 31st next month at Madison Square Garden. If you're a boxing fan, that is absolutely. That is absolutely positively a fight that we've been waiting to see. That's right. Who you got your money on? What's your call?
Starting point is 01:55:41 Always going to ride with your call. Tio Fimo ain't no joke, though. Tio Fimo ain't no hole at all. Okay? Yeah. But, you know, I think Shicole going to take this one. Absolutely. All right.
Starting point is 01:55:49 It's time to get up out of here. You guys, you know what I did today? What? I ordered Starbucks to the wrong Starbucks. You ever did that? Nope. You did that before. I do order Starbucks to the wrong Starbucks.
Starting point is 01:55:58 I've ordered Uber Eats and sent it to the wrong address. The pickup was the wrong pickup. Is that why you have two drinks? That's why I ordered Starbucks. to the wrong Starbucks. I did. I ordered Starbucks to the wrong Starbucks locations. Yeah, I finished this one, so I have one. Oh, I thought he meant he was already at a Starbucks, and he was ordering Starbucks from another
Starting point is 01:56:13 Starbucks. That's what you're saying. I ordered it order to the wrong one, so that's what I got, too. I did that before. One time I ordered a jerk chicken, and it came to the station, and I was home. No, I ordered food, and it came to L.A. And I was in New York. I did it for my whole family, too? So Eddie had jerk chicken, ox tail, all that ordered to the station. You should have ordered Eddie a prostitute. See, if he didn't eat that.
Starting point is 01:56:30 Listen, I wonder if you order, have you think Did he ever ordered the wrong two male prostitutes? You think so? You think that's ever happened? I'm sure. Oh, okay. I'm sure. I'm going to light skin and bought him a chocolate. He was very selective and very detailed in his
Starting point is 01:56:46 outreach. Hey, you know what? I'm going to say something that I find insulting. There's people that say that you know, we only be making these Diddy jokes because Diddy's in jail. Have y'all never watched Diddy's Breakfast Club interview? Y'all got to go back and watch some of these at these Breakfast Club interviews. Like, what do we
Starting point is 01:57:02 talking about him. I think he knows, well, he does know that the jokes can come. He knows the jokes are going to come. He literally said here on Breakfast Club he was unpauseable because we was clowning him about how gay he'd be sounding when he'd be talking sometime. Like, what are y'all, like that's
Starting point is 01:57:16 offensive to me to act like we were just making these jokes because he's locked up. When he was sitting right here or in the old studio. I'm going to tell my favorite Diddy moment on Breakfast Club. What? When I gave Shine donkey of the day in front of the Ditty? Yes.
Starting point is 01:57:31 and he was just quiet and said nothing Diddy couldn't say nothing because when Shine that first came home he was putting out new music and I gave the song Donkey of the day and I remember when we closed the break
Starting point is 01:57:45 Diddy was like Charlott man we got to start talking before these breaks because when you go rogue like that when you go rogue like that I think he might say daddy I think we go rogue like that Daddy I think he said nobody's daddy
Starting point is 01:57:57 I think he said nobody he said he probably said y'all need to talk while shopping because you know He didn't say. All right, leave us on the positive note. The positive note is simply this. Don't be afraid to fail. Okay, failure is simply the opportunity to begin again,
Starting point is 01:58:09 but this time, more intelligently. So don't be afraid to fail, y'all. Have a great weekend. Breakfast club, bitches. Do you all finish or y'all done? Boat, woke up. Wake that ass up. Programming your alarm to Power 105.1 on IHeartRadio.
Starting point is 01:58:25 I know he has a reputation, but it's going to catch up to him. Gabe Ortiz is a cop. His brother Larry, the mystery Gabe didn't want to solve until it was too late. He was the head of this gang. You're going to push that line for the cause? Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry's killed, Gabe must untangle a dangerous past,
Starting point is 01:58:46 one that could destroy everything he thought he knew. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I knew it was a bomb the second that it exploded. I felt it ripped through me. In season two of Ripcurrent, we ask, who tried to kill Judy Berry and why? They were climbing trees and they were sabotaging logging equipment in the woods. She received death threats before the bombing.
Starting point is 01:59:12 She received more threats after the bombing. I think that this is a deliberate attempt to sabotage our movement. Episodes of Ripcourn Season 2 are available now. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. short on time but big on true crime on a recent episode of the podcast hunting for answers I highlighted the story of 19-year-old Lechay Dungey but she never knocked on that door
Starting point is 01:59:38 she never made it inside and that text message would be the last time anyone would ever hear from her listen to Hunting for Answers from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. What are the cycles fathers pass down that sons are left to heal? What if being a man
Starting point is 02:00:04 wasn't about holding it all together, but learning how to let go? This is a space where men speak truth and find the power to heal and transform. I'm Mike Delarocha. Welcome to Sacred Lessons. Listen to Sacred Lessons on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Dr. Laurie Santos from the Happiness Lab here. It's the season of giving, and this year my podcast, The Happiness Lab, is partnering with Give Directly, a nonprofit that provides people in extreme poverty with the cash they need as part of the Pods Fight Poverty campaign. Our goal this year is to raise $1 million, which will bring over 700 families out of extreme poverty.
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