The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: B. Scott Cohosts, Allen Hughes Interview, Is Getting A College Degree Worth It? and More!

Episode Date: April 13, 2023

Today we have celebrity blogger B. Scott stepping in to cohost the show.  We are also joined by Allen Hughes to talk about Tupac's evolution, Menace II Society's impact, John Singleton and more.  We also open the phone lines to ask callers "Is Getting A College Degree Worth It?"See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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B. Scott is here. Good morning. Oh, yes. I'm so happy to be here. Happy to have you. Yes. And before we get into anything else, I just want to say thank you guys so much for your support over the years.

Discussing my exclusives from LoveBScott.com. Absolutely. It has not gone unnoticed. Absolutely. Thank you. I already know. See, B. Scott got the energy. See, a lot of people sometimes, they come in here at 6 in the morning, you can tell

they're not morning people. They gotta start the engine a little bit. B. Scott be up early in the morning, I can tell. Absolutely. I started glam at 3 a.m. Not playing. See? Jesus. Where you based out of? West Hollywood, California. Wow. So it's like 3 a.m. It's 3 o'clock. It's 3 o'clock right now.

Absolutely. Wow. B. Scott's gonna be 3 o'clock at 3.01 right now. Absolutely. Wow. Wow. Okay. Well, Beast Guy's going to be holding down the rumors. Absolutely. This morning. So all that rumors that you usually post, you're going to be doing this morning. And I have an exclusive. So we got to get those bombs together.

That's what I'm talking about. We got to practice. There you go. We got them together. I expect the rumors to be fired in the next couple of days. Oh, absolutely. Okay. You been in the city all week or? I got in last night.

Okay. Yeah. So you're tired. I am tired. You're tired. But I'm here and got in last night. Okay. So you're tired. I am tired. But I'm here and I'm grateful and let's do this. All right. Alan Hughes will be joining us this morning. The legendary Alan Hughes.

You know him from movies like Dead Presidents, Menace to Society, Book of Eli. Literally three of my favorite movies ever. He did the Defying Ones documentary on Dr. Dre and Jimmy Iovine. And he's got a new documentary coming out on FX called Hey Mama. No, Dear Mama. Dear Mama. Hey Mama. Hey Mama is Kanye.

Dear Mama is Tupac. Dear Mama, Tupac. And you know that. But we'll talk to him. There's so much to talk about. I mean, he has history in this industry. They're originally from Detroit. So shout out to everybody in Detroit.

What up, Doe? Moved out to California, started shooting movies. And he has a history. Doing the Marvin Gaye biopic. doing the Snoop Dogg biopic. You got a lot going on. That's right. All right. Well, let's get this show cracking.

Front page news is popping off up next. Teslin Figaro will be joining us. We got a lot to talk about, so don't move. Stay right there. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's the EJNV.

Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got our co-host, our guest co-host, B. Scott here. I know that's right. And let's get into front page news. Now let's start with NBA. The Bulls beat the Raptors last night. 109-105 playing tournament.

And the Thunder beat the Pelicans 123-118. I never stay up to watch the West Coast games no more. I'm too old for that. Yeah, it's too late. I was born in the 1900s. I need my rest. Teslin, good morning. Good morning, DJ dj nb charlemagne the god and b scott big b scott energy yes let's start let's get right into it justin j pearson was he reinstated what

happened with him in tennessee yes justin j pearson was reinstated local officials unanimously voted on wednesday to send Representative Justin J. Pearson, one of the two black Democratic representatives who was ousted from Tennessee House of Representatives after gun control protests on the House floor, back to his seat in the state legislature. Now, the vote came less than a week after Mr. Pearson and Justin Jones of Nashville were abruptly expelled. And now they are back. Remember earlier this week on Monday, they sent back Justin Jones. And so yesterday was the opportunity for Mr. Pearson to be voted back to be interim, basically replace himself.

And I want people to remember that this is temporary, both him and Justin Jones. They will still have to go through a special election. We don't know when that date will be and a general election. So like we mentioned the other day in the interview, if you do support these two gentlemen, make sure that you don't forget about this story after this week because they're going to need your support. Now, take a listen to Representative Pearson's victory speech and just a little bit of his victory speech. And we'll discuss on the other side. It is this movement that's going to change this country.

It's this movement in this moment in time that's going to change the country. And I'm so glad. Oh, I'm so glad. Yes, I'm glad. Oh, I'm glad. So both Justins are back in the Tennessee house. That is amazing. But let's not forget why they got expelled in the first place. And that was because they were pushing the line for common sense gun reform. I know those drums sound good. And I know those speeches sound good.

But let's not forget what they got expelled for in the first place. That is the issue. ISB Scott, what did you think about it yesterday when they were I don't want to say performing, but in front of in front of the state building and they were playing the drums and they were talking about everything but what they got expelled for? I felt like it was a circus. I felt like it was making a spectacle of something that we should be taking very seriously. And gun reform in this country is something that you you know me like it's like every day we're waking up to these mass shootings. It's like it's almost like Groundhog's Day every day. And it's like, you know, it's it's easy to to not relate to it when it's not you. But you have to think one day it's going to be you.

That's right. Now, was he not talking? I didn't see the whole speech. So I don't know if he was felt like his performance. Was he talking about gun reform? I'm sure he was. When he was on Breakfast Club, he never got off message of we need to get commissars gun reform yeah he he did talk about it um but you know his style of you know delivery

is you know he's the son of a pastor uh and so you that's his style of delivery and and i'm glad you said that b scott because you know we did know, we did an interview with Justin Pearson the other day. And, you know, a lot of folks may not like, you know, those questions being asked, you know, kind of going sticking to the actual issues. And I think the ear and I would love to talk about the interview recap quickly. The ear is so accustomed to the performance of it all. And I'm not saying that to be disingenuous to him catching the holy ghost or you know whatever emotion came with him but we have trained our ears uh to prioritize politicians over people you know people have no problem with uh the someone coming to the breakfast club and

pressuring a rapper to ask you know who did you date last and enforcing that or asking hey a reality show person you know tell us the tea uh but when we have politicians uh there has been a a trained ear that is accustomed to listening to the filibuster so when folks say well you know tez you kind of interrupted him well that's a part of strategy i've actually been doing this 20 years uh believe it or not me too um let me just i'm the numbers yes let's do them let's do the math um i am the host of straight shot no chaser and so a lot of times when you see uh politicians come they're trained to filibuster if i say what is your black policy do they immediately go into well you know i black girls and black boys and what is your black policy so people have not been

accustomed to that and i just want to put it on on the record for those that don't know me because they see me in this form. B. Scott, where it's very, you know, I'm a moderator when I'm doing the front page news. But just to be clear, in case you did not watch the five times that I came to Breakfast Club and were interviewed, I prioritize people over politicians. I've been doing it my entire career. I'm not a Democrat. I'm not a Republican. I don't fangirl over politicians.'ve been doing it my entire career i'm not a democrat i'm not a republican i don't fangirl over politicians i believe that they can recover from the interview but black people cannot recover from 400 years of oppression i do believe and now you're preaching

you're preaching i got a little past in me too hallelujah and so let's go to the mountaintop absolutely we have to be very clear about that and for the folks that don't know i give the same exact energy if not worse to white folks on fox news i duck no wrecks i take all fades i will line them up line them up democrat republican across the board so let there be no confusion on my energy and and asking that young man the tough questions but we also were very clear in the interview was saying that nobody should be expelled for their voice you know nobody they should have never been expelled i was i was basically saying listen we support you but i cannot and i'll say this and i'll wrap it up when you every last story has said you know black black black black black black elected official

black official so i must be responsible and say what are you doing for the 60 of black people in your district right that's right that's a fair question and i was hoping the brother would come back and say hey my district suffers x amount of you know gun violence and so me being out of that seat means that i can't help those black folks in my district and and so rather than people getting upset at me for asking where is white man man Bob Freeman, who is not taking a stand, who actually who actually represents the victims who were slaughtered? Go ask where Bob is. Don't ask why. Why? I ask where Bob is. But as Bob, where is Bob? What you're saying is we should be able to challenge and critique any elected official, especially, you know, if you voted for them. And if you upset, you're upset about us challenging Democrats y'all about to stay mad that's right and don't ever

feel away because that's why you're here like you know like I was telling you early behind the scenes for myself I'm surface political I just don't dive into it like you know I mean when we talk real estate I dive into it when we talk about other things I dive into it talk about butts I dive into it. Talking about butts? You dive into it. You dive into it literally? You dive into it literally. But when it comes to that politics, this is what you do. You got the facts, and that's why we trust you.

So we appreciate you. So never back down to them cowards. She got me riled up. I'm like, yes, what are we doing? Where are we marching? It's the veteran in me, baby. We'll see you in a little bit, Tess. Peace.

All right, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up right now. Why are you with that fan? Are you going through menopause? What's going on, bro? It be hot in this room, bro, bro. 800-585-1051.

Get it off your chest. Call us up right now. Phone lines are wide open. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Ray, Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlamagne, Lindsey, what up?

Are we live? This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now. We can tell you what it is. Baby, we live! Hello, who's this?

This is King, we're calling from Tampa, Florida. Why you yelling? Yo, you had some pork this morning? Yeah, no, I'm hype. I've been working all night, running my Krispy Kreme route. Yeah, I see. You know, on your call ID, it says Krispy Kreme Donuts. Is that a Krispy Kreme phone, or you just did that?

No, it's a Krispy Kreme phone. I'm working right now. That's why I want to get off my chest. I finally got through that for six months. First of all, I love Krispy Kreme. I can't have it because my cholesterol. I think my cholesterol went down, but it's not good for my cholesterol. It's not good for you.

If you take one of the donuts and squeeze it, you'll see all the oil drop out of it. That's the best part. Yeah. What's up, mama? Why are you calling this morning? That's what I was calling. I'm trying to get off my chest. I finally got through it after six months.

I enjoy y'all show when I'm grinding, delivering these donuts to Publix and Walmart and all these racetracks. Thank you. And y'all have a blessed day. Okay, we appreciate it. What city are you from? I'm originally from Connecticut. Where you at now? I'm in Tampa, Florida now.

I was going to say, drop off some Krispy Kreme up here. But thank you, Mama. No, thank you. You have a good one. You too. Don't bring them devilish donuts up here. Hello, who's this? Hey, thank you. You have a good one. You too. Don't bring them devilish donuts up here. Hello, who's this? Hey, good morning. This is Ben from Detroit again.

Ben, what up, though? What up, though? Charlemagne, I want to call DJ Envy to the front of the congregation. Okay. Uh-oh. Oh, yes, sir. I want to accuse him of being the George Jefferson

of the radio. Hanging up on people and slamming doors in people's face. Ben, I would never do that, Ben. He'll never go out like George Jefferson, though. You see all the Beijing he put in his hand and his beard? He'll never let a bald spot happen to him. Well, tell me I'm no more being beige and bougie Ben

Yes, sir I didn't do that on purpose, that slipped Sorry, Ben Sure Hello, who's this? Yeah, hello Hey, what's up? Hey, what's up?

Peace and blessings Hey, Sean, man, can I get the email today? Huh? What email? Remember he asked you for email? He said he was... It's Sean Stone, brother. He wanted to put out and was going to send you an email to...

Oh, I'll give it to you off the air. And then he started rapping and then you hung up on him. Yeah, I'll give it to you. No, no, no. No, I didn't start rapping. I was quoting one of my friends' poem that he wrote. You know what I mean? I'm trying to help him out.

Yeah, that was terrible. You didn't help him, brother. No, it was pretty bad. What you mean I didn't help him? You didn't help him. You should have let him. First of all, it was about time.

And it was long as hell. And you know we don't have a lot of time when we're doing these phone calls. And you wasted our time. Did you say good morning to B. Scott? Hey, B. Scott. How you doing?

Good morning. You got to sound excited about that. Hey, my name is Sean Stone. Hey, my name is Sean Stone, by the way. You didn't know me. Nice to meet you. I'm sure he turned into sexy boy soon. I'm sure B. Scott didn't know you.

I'm sure B. Scott didn't know you. I had no idea. You put the quiet story voice on. I'm a sanitation driver out here. And, you know, Charlamagne and Evie never give me no love, even though I've been calling the breakfast club 13 years. Sanitation drivers have some really good benefits. They do?

Yeah, we do but we're not making enough money out there I think our our salary needs to be up in the $40 an hour type of uh atmosphere

but they being cheap out here with us Sean Stone is never happy mmm I did see a lot of trash on the way here though but I want more money you know what I mean

when you living paycheck to paycheck you want more money for real don't y'all get 25 paid vacation days too throughout the year? Nah.

I work in Jersey, Sean, man, so I only get a one-week vacation, brother. Oh, wow. But let me shout out to Marriott too, man, for always hooking me up

with free breakfast in the morning. There you go. That's the perks. Get free food out here. Okay. All right, well, Sean, we appreciate your service, Sean.

You're safe out there. Yeah, email, please. All right, I'm going to give it to you off-air. Hold on. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Good morning, it's Talia. Hey, Talia. Good morning.

How you feeling this morning? I'm all right listening to y'all. I'm out doing the paper route. Oh, that's right. Oh, you deliver the papers? Yeah, I've been trying to do that lately. I called in about two weeks ago letting y'all know on Super Bowl Sunday I had got shot in my back and it broke my pelvic

bone and shut my nerves on my left leg. So since then I haven't been able to physically work because I'm a liability so this is the only way I can make a little extra cash. I'm a hustler. I'm so sorry to hear that. No, it's alright. Last time I called in to y'all I was

in good spirits, which I still am. Eight times out of ten, I am. But the other two, it did get to me. It is very hard. It did change my life. But I just wanted to do my own horn. I had to do physical therapy for two weeks, two days out of the week for months now. But finally have been able to move my leg just a little bit.

Like as if I'm sitting down in a chair or laying down. God is good. I'm not able to move my leg just a little bit. Like as if I'm sitting down in a chair or laying down. God is good. I'm not able to move my left leg at all. Wow. We sending you healing energy always. Absolutely. That's right, Charlamagne. And I just wanted to thank y'all for keeping me up in these mornings

and overnight doing the paper. And y'all just, I've been listening to y'all forever. And y'all just super funny. Keep it real and I appreciate y'all just, I've been listening to y'all forever and y'all just super funny and keep it real and I appreciate y'all. Oh, love. And where you calling from? From West Palm Beach, Florida.

Florida. All right. Can we buy you some lunch today on me and Charlamagne? And B. Scott. Of course. Oh, B. Scott

gonna chip in too. Oh, I got it. So what's your cash app? We gonna send you a little bit so we can put it on your cash app and you got some

lunch and dinner on the Breakfast Club and be Scott. Oh, thank you guys so much. You guys, God bless you. God bless you. It's going to be the money sign, a capital T. Hold on. You got to slow down already. I'm writing it down. I got to find the money sign. You can't talk over me while

she's doing it because now she got to start over. Alright, money sign. Money sign. A capital T. T or P? T. T as in Talia. Oh, T as in Talia. Okay, go ahead. A lowercase T. Lowercase T as in Talia. Uh-huh. A as in apple. Mm-hmm. L as

in lion. Mm-hmm. I as in igloo. Mm-hmm. A as in apple. Mm-hmm. And the number 25. Charlamagne said nothing comes up. Charlamagne, sure you got the dollar sign? Let me try, because Charlamagne, 25. Charlamagne said nothing comes up. Charlamagne, sure you got the dollar sign? Let me try because Charlamagne, you know Charlamagne sometimes. Yeah, because that's definitely it.

I'm looking at it right now. T-T-A-L-L-I-A-2-5. You got yellow hair? Oh, two Ts. Yeah. Right there. There's a capital T and a lowercase T. Oh, I thought you said P.

No, she said T. No. He's still stuck on the P. I just sent it to you. You got it yet? Oh, I see you. You got that red wig on. Orange wig.

Yeah, orange wig. It's orange. Y'all both talking about yellow, that red. Y'all both wrong. You got it? I did. All right. lunch is on me Charlamagne

you sent a dinner yeah I just sent it now I sent a breakfast God bless you who sent you more I'll be curious who sent you more who sent you more

Charlamagne sent less Charlamagne sent less I sent $50 I sent $50 how much you sent I sent $100 $100 $50 How much you sent? I sent $100 Oh $100

Oh okay I didn't know who was Sending right now But I'm working on it It's coming B Scott gonna send Something too Well thank you mama

And you know We appreciate you For riding and Listening with us Alright Always every morning And congratulations On the show

Thank you so much Thank you Thank you Alright I'm telling you man Be grateful for Whatever it is You're going through because there's

always somebody out there going through worse. Baby. You know what I'm saying? She said she got shot Super Bowl Sunday watching the Super Bowl. In the back. And that she has to work. She can't even sit home, so she's doing papers. She got to drive and throw the papers out the window because she can't go stoop to stoop.

Come on, man. Jesus Christ. Jesus. Jesus. So the fact that we could at least pay for some lunch and dinner for her is everything. So shout to her and Talia. We appreciate you listening every morning. All right.

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. Now we got B Scott here, our co-host. We got rumors on the way. Oh, yes, we do. Give us a little tease. We're going to be talking about something really exclusive. I wouldn't be B Scott if there's no exclusive information.

That's what I'm saying. No pressure, B Scott. But you are B Scott. Yes, it is. I can take the pressure. I can take it. All right. All right. That's what I'm saying. No pressure, B. Scott, but you are B. Scott. Yes, it is. I can take the pressure. I can take it. All right. Get the sound effects ready.

Boom, boom, boom. We'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities,

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The Waikana tribe own country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my god. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go.

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And the kid said, I'm black and I'm proud. Black boxing stars and black music royalty together in the heart of Zaire, Africa. Three days of music and then the boxing event. What was going on in the world at the time made this fight as important that anything else is going on on the planet. My grandfather laid on the ropes and let George Foreman basically just punch himself out. Welcome to Rumble, the story of a world in transformation. The 60s and prior to that, you couldn't call a person black. And how we arrived at this peak moment.

I don't have to be what you want me to be. We all came from the continent of Africa. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's the EJ, Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got our co-host, B. Our co-host. Our co-host, B. It's the EJ, Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.

We got our co-host, B. Our co-host. Our co-host, B. Scott, here. And I am coasting. Yeah, dude. Our co-host, B. Scott, joining us this morning. Good morning. How you feeling?

I am feeling great. I am so grateful to be here with you two guys. You guys are doing it big. Oh, thank you. Congratulations again on the BET situation that's coming. Thank you. Thank you. Monday.

Start Monday. Start Monday. Well, let's get to the rumors. What are we talking about? We are going to be talking about Jamie Foxx being hospitalized for a medical complication. It's free school. All the rumors are true. This is the rumor report.

You love muffins have been asking me for quite some time. On The Breakfast Club. I wasn't going to come to you tonight, but I had to. But I had to. It goes a little something like this. I mean, we had to do an intro for you. Oh, my goodness. That's Taylor Mays right there.

I know you didn't. Yes, we did. You went all the way back to my YouTube days. Absolutely. You know I was one of the first YouTube celebrities. Yes. One of the first blog, you know, celebrity bloggers, YouTube celebrities, all that. Did you make money off YouTube back then?

I did. I was one of the first people accepted into their little partnership program. Okay. But it wasn't much back then. I mean, it was a couple thousand dollars each month. Good opportunity, though. Got you here. Absolutely.

I mean, I was going viral before that was a term. Wow. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Millions of views. My very first video that I did went viral. And I was talking about Sham that was a term. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Like millions of views. Like my very first video that I did went viral. And I was talking about Shemar Moore being naked. I was so excited to see him naked.

I was like, Shemar Moore is ding ding. I was like so excited about it. When the hell was Shemar Moore naked? It was some photos of him coming out the water on the beach. I don't remember that. And the things that's popping around. Why, you want to see it? Was it really more or never mind?

You want to see it? Was it more or less? Was it more or less? It was neither. It was kind of in between. Okay, that's popping around. Why, you want to see it? Was it really more, or never mind? You want to see it? Was it more or less? Was it more or less? It was neither. It was kind of in between. Okay, that's about me. Yeah. Oh.

This took a shot right. It was like. The average size guys don't ever get love, man, so drop on the clues box for us. Oh. There it is.

Yes. Okay, little man. All right, what we average? And where we at is this this is something that hits home for me because this person is someone that's very special to me um he actually gave me one of the biggest opportunities of my career early on um i had a serious xm radio show on jamie fox's foxhole okay the beast guy show um and he did it at a time where no one you know i came before the inclusion you see today. So,

you know, everyone now is getting on the, you know, the bandwagon and being more accepting. But back then what he did was huge because no one was trying to, you know, give opportunity like that to someone like me. And so I will forever be grateful to Jamie Foxx.

And so when I heard that he, you know, had a medical complication and a medical emergency, um, that really affected me. And, you know, that's what happened. So over, I think, the last couple of days, I don't know what day exactly it happened, but he suffered a medical complication. His daughter, Kareem Fox, she posted this note.

We wanted to share that my father, Jamie Fox, experienced a medical complication yesterday. Luckily, due to quick action great care he is already on his way back to recovery wow sending healing energy to Jamie Foxx and I'm wondering man are we really getting that old yes we are we're at that age where people around us are having medical complications or medical emergencies I'll be honest passing away from strokes and heart attacks I don't think it's the age I think it's something else it's probably the processed food it's something else because It's probably the processed food. It's something else,

because there's a lot of brothers out there and a lot of sisters out there that are getting these complications a lot earlier and earlier and earlier, and it's scaring the ish out of me. And it makes me think, because she said, due to quick action. So if they didn't act quickly,

what would have happened? Oh, so it makes you think it was something sudden. It would have to either be like a stroke or a heart attack or something of that nature i mean i hate to kind of you know speculate about somebody's health but at the end of the day like what would require quick action you know and it's just like so unexpected because you know you think you know you he's like wow like jamie you see him he seems so healthy you would never expect a medical complication out of nowhere all right i told y'all over the few months, I did every single cardiovascular test you could possibly do.

I did the stress test. I wore a heart monitor. I did the I can't remember the technical term for it. They put like the ink inside you so they can see inside your artery. I did the calcium test. I did all of that just to make sure. And that, you know, yeah, I was saying that still doesn't matter because in any given moment, anything could happen. I detected some stuff like my calcium was 76 and, you know, I was gonna say and that still doesn't matter cause in any given moment anything could happen I was just so scared

I detected some stuff like my calcium was 76 and you know they want it to be zero and plus heart disease runs in my family so and then

I had a little high cholesterol high cholesterol I mean and for example like my long time podcast producer of 10 years

passed away in like a month like literally he was in the hospital at the first of the month and was dead by the end of the month um leukemia wow yeah some type of rare form of multiple something something something leukemia and that affected me because of the fact of like you know he was literally one of the nicest people i have ever met and believed in me our last meeting i had with him was him he got a new job and he didn't know how he was going to help me but he just wanted to meet about the potential of helping me and he was 40 I think 41 lord have mercy wow

that's way we tell everybody definitely go to the doctor and you get yourself checked out and we talk about you know Charlemagne and I joke about you know getting checked out and I don't joke about it I wouldn't gotta yes and we talk about it but you know like I said they found they found what two polyps and you know they got them removed

from me and one of them you know could have been cancerous I had no polyps no cancer no redness right

yes and oh my goodness we didn't have time to get to my exclusive but we will be dropping a Housewives of Atlanta exclusive yes

in the next hour you got friends on that show I am friends with all of them-ish. Two of them block me. We'll find out what two block you when we come next hour during the rumors. All right. Well, thank you. B. Scott is here.

The one and only. That's right. And when we come back, we got front page news. Teslin Figaro will be joining us. And of course, Alan Hughes will be joining us. Alan Hughes, director. You probably know him from Director of Menace to Society and Book of Eli and so many more. So don't move.

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Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got our guest co-host B. Scott with us this morning. I know, that's right. And let's get in some front-page news. Tesslyn Figueroa, good morning. Good morning.

How you feeling? I'm doing good. I'm distracted by Charlamagne's fan, though. Shout out to Flame and Ro. You already know. Flicky Flame. Yes, Flame. She said to make sure.

She said you're using the one where she's naked on it. So she said you could have used it. I'm not naked on this. On that one, the one behind you, Flame is naked. I'm using this fan because it's hot. Okay. Okay. Whatever you tell yourself.

That's why I'm using this fan. It'll be warm in here. There's some front page news. The NBA got, of course, the play-in tournament. The Bulls beat the Raptors last night, 109-105. The Thunder beat the Pelicans, 123-118. Now, Tez, what is going on in Mexico? Is Mexico

still... I just got back from Mexico. I was there nine days, and it was... I didn't have no problems. Right. You also had mad security. I did have security. Okay, you were staying in a gated place and where were you in mexico uh we was like 20 minutes outside of cancun okay yeah we urged you not to go um and we did and the reason why is because it was actually when this story actually happened so i want to give an update on that because many of you remember the story that we saw

you know all over social media uh where the four black americans were kidnapped in mexico so when that happened we talked about it here on The Breakfast Club, of course. And so there's been an update on the again, the four black Americans that were kidnapped. Latavia, Washington McGee, Eric Williams, Shadeed Woodard and Zendale Brown. They were attacked and kidnapped by the Mexican cartel on March 3rd while they were on their way to a medical appointment. One of the things I found really frustrating about this is online, people were kind of making up their own stories saying, you know, they must have been up there selling drugs and dope.

And they just kind of, you remember that? They just ran with it. So now they've come back to tell their story. And of course, you know, they confirmed that they were driving across the U.S. border, saw a gun in the car, a shootout began. Three of them were shot. Then they were loaded into the truck at gunpoint. Now, McGee said that they kept promising to give medical attention to the victims that were shot, but unfortunately waited too late.

Two of them passed away, and Eric Williams did survive. They eventually gave him medical attention for his leg. Now, both McGee and Williams sat down with Anderson Cooper on CNN to give an exclusive interview about their horrific experience. Take a listen. Were they threatening to you in violence, in sexual violence? I mean, they're trying to make us have sex with each other, but we were brothers and sisters, and that she was pregnant. What did they say to you? They was like, what are y'all?

We said brothers and sisters. And they was like, have sex with each other. I was like, no, these are my brothers. I'm pregnant. I don't know. They had me blindfold covered up. They took me a little piece. We switched vehicles. They put us in another vehicle.

And then they covered me up. And we rode a little bit. And then I just know they backed in somewhere and took me out took me in a room and i saw him and some more people there were other people yeah who were the other people other people who was in that i'm not taking my black ass no way near mexico now wait just a damn minute like i must have missed that part they wanted to have sex with each other i never heard that before in the world yeah definitely um go watch the full interview it i mean it's it's really like just jaw-dropping and one of the things they talked about at the end of the interview is that the cartel said that uh there was nothing they could

do to bring the two brothers back uh the guy that that eventually released them he told her you know hey i know they're going to kill me for releasing you uh he said but he did apologize that the wrong call was made that the person was high and drunk and basically made the wrong call they eventually dropped the survivors off at a wooden shack where they were rescued on march 7 and uh again what they've done the gulf cartel has basically issued an apology for the incident and eventually handed over other five other members that they kidnapped to local authorities so we have no idea why they're doing this they said somebody was high and drunk and made the wrong call yeah because at first they said that they thought they were uh haitian smugglers yeah and that was the wrong call but you know i have a question because when i was in

mexico people were telling me that uh it was certain areas in mexico that they tell people don't go to like you know certain places of no matter where you go they say don't go in that area it's not a tourist town it's not friendly to tourists so if you're in those areas be very careful even when i go to jamaica sometimes you know my wife is from kingston like they even tell us like don't go to certain parts because you know it's it's not run by government it's run by the local cartels you know but recently it seemed like i mean it's the acopoco and tulum like it's like all these shootings people getting killed i mean like at the resort near the resort i don't i don't i you didn't pay me to go to mexico i don't know i wonder if this is any backlash to uh how they think some americans may feel about mexicans

because of the rhetoric that comes from you know's of the world. You think, Taz? I don't want to make an assumption, but I guess when we look at what's happening with Mexico in general and not pursuing justice or if there is some type of... I don't want to make up a conspiracy, but I just think that Mexico is Mexico, and they're going to handle their business as such. And I know, B. Scott, you wanted to talk about Mexico as well.

Absolutely. And while we're on the topic of Mexico, there has been an update on the Chacola Robinson death. The U.S. federal prosecutors have decided not to pursue charges because they found insufficient evidence. Really? Yeah, we saw the video. Yeah. And that's what's so disturbing. We literally saw this woman get murdered by her friends. And the Mexican officials, when they performed the autopsy, they did see that she had a broken spine as well as other injuries. Mexico does want to extradite the person they feel is responsible for her death. There is no news as to how the U how the us will respond to the extradition

uh mexico wants to pursue um what they call femicide charges against a friend femicide is a crime defined as intentional murder of women because they are women yeah but right now they're not doing anything so to answer your question charlemagne the us i talked to attorney crump just about five minutes ago uh he said they are demanding uh they're going to the white house uh shout out to until freedom my sister tamika mallory over there and they're demanding that the u.s done does something so to your point about is this backlash well again mexico wants to arrest uh the the murders of ms robinson why is the biden administration are they going to extradite uh these individuals to you know, so that they can receive justice?

So I want to point that out that on March 19th, it'll be 200 days since Ms. Robinson has been murdered. And again, they have said that if nothing is done, they'll be preparing to protest the White House. And I also think that this ties into how I guess feel like black lives are not valued as much as white lives, because if there was a white woman that got murdered in Mexico, trust and believe there will be some type of justice for that. And I was going to ask. They totally dropped the ball. Does the U.S. usually extradite to other countries like that? Because you never really hear the U.S. sending people out. You always hear people sending people back, but you never really hear U.S. sending people out.

Is that normal practice? Great, great point, DJ Envy, because that's what Attorney Crump literally said this morning. people back but you never really hear us sending people out so is that normal practice great great point um dj envy because that's what attorney crump literally said this morning he said they they typically you know they don't that's not something they typically do um but again you know when we see something you know on tape uh and we see that you know the family is demanding justice and you know uh again and this goes into the culture of like will be scott mentioned you know black lives and and how do we prioritize things and if there was a white woman would it you know uh again and this goes into the culture of like will be scott mentioned you know black lives and and how do we prioritize things and if there was a white woman would it you know would they do something different so it's it's a part of a larger conversation on still trying to

get some level of justice uh for black folks so it's not something uh that is typically done but it doesn't mean that it can't be something that that can't happen gotcha damn man well thank you so much tez we. We appreciate you. Absolutely. And make sure that you subscribe to Tezlyn Figaro's Scrape Shot No Chaser podcast on the Black Effect iHeartRadio podcast network. And Tez will be at the first ever Black Effect podcast festival Saturday, April 22nd in Atlanta at Pullman Yards. Go get your tickets. We're almost sold out.

So go get your tickets at eventbrite and for more information go to black effect.com all right now when we come back i'm excited about this alan hughes will be joining us man alan hughes director uh of uh he made three of my favorite movies ever menace society that's one uh bookie eli's darned in washington and dead president and dead president yes and of course he has a new docuseries. It's called Dear Mama, based on Tupac and his mom. And we're going to talk to him next. So don't move.

It's The Breakfast Club, and our co-host B. Scott's here. The Breakfast Club. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. A legend. Alan Hughes. Welcome, brother. Thank you.

How are you, sir? you sir good good one of the legendary hughes brothers one of them you hear i mean you're here promoting the new fx series dear mama man but you have such a long day before we get to that catalog let's start from the beginning let's let's talk how you got into this business being from detroit midwest kids wanting to go to california wanting to you know i thought we thought we were going to be actors. These big noses and no talent didn't work out. Okay. You know, in the 80s, remember when we used to have the home video?

Boom, you'd go to the store, they'd have those cameras. And so we just started making movies at 12. My mother was trying to keep us out of the streets. And we knew, we just caught a bug. We took a camera at 12 and just started shooting movies, not skate videos, not BMX videos, just started shooting movies. And that's how it started. We took a camera at 12 and just started shooting movies, not skate videos, not BMX videos, just started shooting movies, and that's how it started. What type of movies at 12? 12, yep.

What type of movies? We were doing spoofs. You know, like our favorite shows at the time were Leonard Nimoy's In Search Of. We would do spoofs of that, the Johnny Carson show, and then we would do a bunch of cocaine-themed Scarface-type things. A lot of baking, what is it called? Dough. Okay. Getting a lot of cocaine-themed Scarface-type things. A lot of baking. What is it called? Dough.

Okay. Getting a lot of dough in our noses doing Scarface scenes. Right, right, right. But we eventually worked our way into around 18, 19, got lucky enough to get some music videos. And one of our first music videos was for the spinoff group of Digital Underground Raw Fusion with Money B. And that's when we met Tupac. Wow. And it was our first music video.

Tupac was in our first music video. So we were fortunate enough that we dropped out of high school after a bunch of Burger King-type jobs, landed a couple music videos, and the first one was pretty much Digital Underground. Was that the first connection with Pac? Absolutely. It was a Waffle House in San Francisco where we had to go meet the group for the first time.

And shock G, everyone's there. And I remember being very taken with this kid at the end of the table that was unknown at the time. Just funny. Just the funniest guy. He was roasting everyone at the table. Went to the bathroom. He came in and he says, I saw you guys in short films. I'm going to have my record label hire you to direct my music videos.

I'm like, come on. But the next day was our first music video shoot, our first professional job. And I just kept asking everyone, when's Tupac showing up? When's Tupac showing up? Because we did a little scene before the music video. It's called Throw Your Hands in the Air. And he showed up late. I waited for him and put him right in the middle of the scene. And you'll see this music video. He's right in the air and he showed up late I waited for him

and put him right in the middle of the scene and you'll see this music video he's right in the middle of that scene and that's how our relationship began and what were those conversations like because you know he became a dynamic actor y'all became dynamic film directors did y'all have conversations about doing bigger things like movies even it yes you know what Tupac I think I think back now, because I was forced to with this docu-series, the level of intensity and passion was always matched with me, my brother, and him. And we were always talking about doing movies. We were talking about doing movies together.

It wasn't just this music thing. But Tupac always kind of searching for that father figure. At one point, got with a John Singleton and I remember when he broke our hearts because he he says to us when we wanted him for menace he says I won't I won't star in the movie which we didn't want him to it goes me and John have made a pact that our only star in John Singleton films are gonna be like Robert De Niro and Scorsese. Wow.

But I saw what was happening with him because he always had that, like, looking for that big brother, and he made that connection with John. And I remember it hurt our hearts because we had plans, and that was that. Why y'all never made that pack? Y'all should have made that pack. Did John just get to it first?

He got to it first. He got to it first. Well, you know, John was bigger at the time. We hadn't made a movie. John was coming off Boys in the Hood, going into Poetic Justice, which is the second film, if I'm not mistaken, right? So you got Janet Jackson. You got John Singleton, Oscar nominated. We're just some guys that made some music videos.

We hadn't made Menace yet. I always wondered how much did Boys in the hood inspire menace society because i in my mind i can't remember how the time difference between those movies but it feel like they were just two similar type of stories didn't inspire it at all except for one in one regard we had this idea since we were 15 so by the time we were 19 and boys was catching all this heat and this attention we we had gotten an early copy of it because they in music video days you would get the film and I remember being bummed because the marketing and Cube at the time, remember how

massive Cube was, he just left NWA and it just seemed everything was perfect and I saw the film and I was like oh this is not what we want to do, this is more of a positive version. Menace was way grittier yeah, so it just made us double down on like oh no we gotta be more gangster with ours and then we saw a film called

american me you seen american yeah we rewrote menace we saw that we rewrote menace like that changed everything for us what part was pox supposed to play in menace he's supposed to play sharif the muslim muslim muslim brother and you know therein lied the problem but he didn't want to be the Muslim brother He wanted to be an old dog You know what's interesting is By the time Let me back up a second

And the Muslim brother had a big part in ministry He did It wasn't a small part I'll back up a second When we were doing music videos with Tupac And I think our relationship Our friendship Our intense friendship

Lasted maybe nine months One day I picked him up at the burbank airport him and his brother mo cream and we went to the paramount lot and it was the first time he saw juice and i never even knew about juice and i just remember he had like one or two tattoos at the time he didn't he wasn't tatted up he wasn't whatever i remember everything changed after he saw juice after he saw himself in juice a lot of people say that they say after he changed after he played juice after he saw himself in juice i saw it when he saw it what i didn't know at the time was he was aware of what the critics were saying about him because you get the early reviews so he knew going in that this

was well reviewed for him but i saw a change he saw a a script. He saw a thing happening, because I always say Tupac signed his record deal three years too late. If you think about what he represented as far as social justice, black power, all that stuff, that was 88. That was 87. He signed his deal in 91.

You know, B**** for Life album was at the top of the charts. And I think he was always struggling with like damn this is what's hot now it's not who i am but this gangster now and he i saw that struggle in him but when he saw juice i just you could see it in his actions after that like i can't claim that you know when you look at his death row era and you look at that persona you you you know some of that must have been in him because like with any great performer any great actor you can't you can't play something that's not something that's in you you know but i think tupac was um a true artist i'm talking about like empathic too and sensitive and can take in anything and become anything um and i think, unfortunately, he got cut down

in the progression of becoming a man early, you know, at 25. How if any of us got removed from this earth at 25, I mean, what a shame because we're not fully formed yet. Tupac seemed fully formed. Your frontal cortex don't even develop until 25. I want to talk about the Pac stuff, but you literally made like three of my favorite movies of all time. But I think about that end scene of Menace.

You hear Kane's heart beating, you know, and he's questioning himself. Like, I can only imagine that's probably how it is when you're dying from gunshot wound. You're like, damn, I wish I would have made another choice. But I guess now it's too late. Like, that ain't make me want to thug out. And they say, you know, when i was studying for um dead presidents you call you call out for your mama that's the number one thing you call out for when you're when you're dying in vietnam that was the number one thing and they say tupac the first thing he

said when he got shot was he called out for his mother wow and you know that's where i think you do go there all right when we come back we got got more with Alan Hughes from the Hughes Brothers. You know him, the director. He directed Minister Society, Book of Eli, and now Dear Mama. So we'll talk to him some more. It's The Breakfast Club in the morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.

B. Scott, our co-host, is here. And we're still kicking it with Alan Hughes. Now, you know Alan Hughes. He's a director. He's directed Minister Society. He's directed Book of Eli. And now he's's doing Dear Mama the Tupac docuseries did you know when you started casting for Minister Society we're gonna talk about everything but did you know Lorenz Tate was the perfect person for that that's a funny story about Lorenz Tate because we wrote that role for

Eazy-E Eazy-E was was my first real OG mentor in the business. Right when Dre, right the summer, Dre left 91. That's a long story. We got time. You got time. We got time. You know, Eazy, I learned everything from Eazy, but

one of the things with him and Jerry is they were always trying to keep you in a box and control you. And they were trying to control us in the script. And I just had to move on, you know. And it was for Peanuts. And I adore Easy. He was so giving and so down to earth. And, by the way, great with his fans, too.

Like, very patient with his fans. But I see why Q left. I see why Dre left. There was a thing there. There was a whole thing there. So we eventually moved on with Menace. And as we were casting, we had been through 200

old dogs. They brought us in the list that were the throwaways. That's when Lorenz came in. Lorenz was a throwaway back then? Yeah, they were like, this is not what you're looking for. Once I yelled action, he went right into what you saw in the movie. Wow. I was like, whoa. And I just got giddy, you know.

And they were like, you can't tell him. He was there with his brothers because he was underage. Wow. I ran out to the elevator, got in the elevator with him. You knew right away because the thing I learned with Lorenz, and I try to keep this in mind in my career, is like don't get trapped in like what you think the role is, the way it's supposed to look.

You know, expect the unexpected. And that kid blew us away. Did Old Dog die in minutes, man? What? No. Okay, so he went to prison? Yeah, he went to prison. Okay.

Why didn't y'all show that? I mean, they showed him getting arrested, but why didn't they tell us? That's always been an open-ended thing, kind of. We were young and didn't know what we were doing, Charlamagne. Seriously. That's an honest answer. That's an honest answer. You're right. Like, there's, like, things that—and it it was like two and a half million dollar budget it wasn't time we barely got that shot where

he got put in a cop car now we were just young and dumb and lucky and even with that i thought i didn't know if that was a flashback or he was getting arrested for the murders that was the night of the shooting and there was a whole scene with jada crying on the porch and all kinds of things that we just cut out of the movie. Kane being put into the ambulance. That all got cut out. No, they wanted to do a sequel at one point like 15 years ago, 10 years ago and O-Dog was going to get out of prison because he was a juvenile.

Wow, what was that? Did you even entertain that? I didn't think I was entertaining it and then we ended up in New Line lines offices and like entertaining it and yeah but i never really wanted to do it yeah i never because i'm like how do you just want to leave that classic yeah when y'all did those lines did you ever expect those lines to continue on forever like when you hear lines like you know you know you're a man or you know the lines i feel sorry for your mother or all those things did y'all know how far that was gonna go go and how much impact that was going to have on the culture to this day? Hell no.

There's not one line in any movie of those movies that I felt that way for. Except for, and I still didn't think this, there's that line, break yourself when the guys pull over. Break yourself. Yeah. I remember me and my brother were driving down Sunset Boulevard in La Brea. We stopped at a light. They called it Hollywood back then because it was so cracked out. I saw a dude slapping a dude's body down to his legs going, break yourself.

We're just right there. That's the first time I ever heard that. And I knew if that stuck out to me, he's slapping him like turning his pockets inside, telling him to break himself. I never heard that before. So I thought there was something to that. no there's no there was no line ever those are all by the way a lot of those lines in menace and in dead presidents were all improvised most of them were improvised the dead presidents was based off the trauma black veterans feel when they come home from the military right what what what inspired that there was a book called bloods there was several stories of

black vietnam veterans you know and to read these stories and to see what black veterans had to come home to there's a different type of trauma fighting that were most of disproportionately losing their lives as a black community you know and i think we were a little again too young and too ambitious and if you look at the movie, it's three different movies. It all makes sense, though. I remember being young. When you're young, you think that's just a bank heist movie, right? Like, oh, it's exciting.

You see the white face paint, which everybody does now for Halloween. But then you get older, you start to peel back those layers of, oh, man. Okay, he was in the military, came home, PTSD, broke, girl cheating on him. Of course he's going to be angry. You know what I mean? Of course he want to, you know, figure out a way to get some money. So it's just a lot of other different things you see as you get older. Yeah.

I think the writing could have been better. You know, like he makes the decision to do the heist, but he hadn't gotten sh** on enough, I thought. You know, it's finding jobs and, you know, like the beats that I know now in storytelling. Like you had to go through a few more beats to earn the right to be shooting all those cops and now you being too hard on yourself and I was a man I mean I mean I mean what is it fast yes and he was sleeping with his first oh that one alone yeah you're right he's that alone girl didn't

beat his ass yeah put the gun in his mouth. You know what? Suck the gun. Denzel Washington taught me something. You put that gun, you know, like Lorenz did, say Cuddy did to Lorenz, Lorenz's character. The biggest mistake of Dead President's was before he went down, he should have went back and served that guy. And you've got to give that to the audience. You can't have your hero get done like that and not get some form of justice. Even if he's going to go to prison, there's got to be some get back for the audience. That was a tough watch for the audience at the time to see Lorenz, his character, put in that position by that pimp-ish character.

And he never got the get back. Now, were you and Paco on good terms when he passed? Because I know you had a kerfuffle once. No. That's a strange, because he did apologize. So what happened for people that don't know? Oh, my God. This is the story.

People don't know. I didn't sleep enough to tell this story. Well, we eventually had to fire him for menace because it was just he was just becoming a handful and and um i could tell it was just there was no way for us to it was starting before menace and um and i tried to work it out with him but he he just in my opinion wasn't being reasonable and i'm sure he would say the same of me of course um and this is between me and fire tupac who had? Who had that conversation? Who walks in that trailer? It was in pre-production,

so we were in rehearsals where we had several little blowouts. And then I called him later that night. Well, he told me to call his manager. I called his manager's manager. I was like, well, Tupac this, Tupac that. Let me talk to Tupac. I called Tupac.

He goes, I'm not talking to you. Talk to my manager. I said, you know, like, there's no way this is, we can't do this, Tupac. He goes, I'm not talking to you. Talk to my manager. I said, you know, like, there's no way this is, we can't do this, Tupac. Like, if I can't talk to you, I'm going to have to let you go. You know, talk to my manager. So, next day I went to New Line Cinema and I said, we got to let

him go. Oh, so you didn't want to fire him? No. You wanted to work it out? No, I wanted to work it out. Wow. Yeah. And he was making a lot of money. And by the way, to Tupac's credit, he was one of the reasons why the movie got greenlit because they wouldn't greenlight it unless we had someone of note or a platinum artist in the film and tupac as a friend signed on early and helped us with that film you know and i remember the termination uh letter and that's what happened he got terminated and there

was uh rumors that tupac was looking for us and i'm gonna make this about my brother because this is the decision i made i dealt with the actors albert was out there scouting locations when this happened you know but anyway we pulled up in the spice one uh music video for the soundtrack trigger has no heart got no heart i can't remember the title and i saw tupac sitting there with 10 gangsters already liquored up and high. So you knew what it was. Yep. And that's what happened. I'll just make this story short

because it got bloody, it got brutal on me. And I just remember going, damn, I don't feel anything. I was amazed by what the adrenaline does. And I had to go to the hospital. It was that bad, you know? So there was a mutual friend. Mutual friends.

I'm like, just tell them to meet me in the park. You know, I was like, meet me in the park, man. I'm not threatening you. You know, let's resolve it as men, just one-on-one. And I just kept getting rejected. I said, all right, so that's when I took it to court. And I had a real shitty attorney. And I'm in the preliminary stage.

I go, you know what? Pull the MTV that moment you're talking about. Where he's threatening and re-threatening. And he confessed to it. Yep. And that moment you're talking about where he's threatening and re-threatening and confess he confessed to it yep and says yeah and say you're gonna do it again yeah when i catch him traveling i said pull the tape let's show that to the jury let me tell the whole world check this out they fired me but did it in a roundabout punk snitch way so i caught him on the streets and beat Dave behind. Do you know what I'm saying? I was a nigga to the east, brother. And it ain't over.

I still got more than Chugbox. Don't jump to the TV. Don't jump to the TV. Don't jump to the TV. Don't jump to the TV. When they showed that tape to the jury, you should have saw their faces. That's what won the case. All right, well, don't move.

We got more with Alan Hughes. When we come back, it's the Breakfast Slogan Morning. Hey, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. B. Scott, our co-host, is here. And we're still kicking it with Alan Hughes. Now, you know Alan Hughes.

He's a director. He's directed Minister Society. He's directed Book of Eli. And now he's doing Dear Mama, the Tupac docuseries. Charlemagne? I think some people are concerned that you might try to paint Pac in a negative light because of that situation with Dear Mama.

I remember when they first announced it, I saw people that are close to Pac online saying like, no, why is he doing Dear Mama? Like,

what story is he going to tell? What kind of bitch ass shit would I be on to, first of all, not be proud of like,

the icon he's become and why would I want to shit on that? If anything, the reason why i took the job was i want to understand him more you go around the world africa south america asia europe you see that mural you see you don't see anyone around the world like that i don't give a who it is like you don't see him in africa like you see tupac and i always looked when i was traveling i go man i wonder he's the strange, paradoxical,

if I can use that word, 20th century figure that you can project anything you want to. Lover, fighter, saint, sinner, poet, philosopher, violence, whatever you want to see, you'll see in Tupac. You know, I've noticed that about him. He's almost biblical in that way. I say too, like Tupac is on,

it's like your grandma has MLK, JFK, and Jesus over there. Tupac's on like your grandma has MLK JFK and Jesus over there box on that other wall so you got to be real mindful when you're dealing with something like that so break down break down what it is for people that don't know is it a miniseries is a docuseries is it weekly so for people I don't know it's a docuseries five parts and it's the first week April 21st it drops on FX the first two episodes come out that night, and then the next day on Hulu. Streaming. And then week to week. How hard is it to

gather all these different stories together to film? Because it's not just Pockets, it's his mother as well, right? So, how hard is it to gather these stories? It's very difficult, because it's like, on the Afeni side, there was virtually nothing. No footage, very little pictures, and she's got a rich history, especially, obviously, her Panther years

and what she was on trial for with the Panther 21. They were facing 360 years for allegedly trying to bomb all kinds of things in New York. And Afeni represented herself, which is bold, to say the least. So it's very hard and difficult to go back and, you know, you have to do like an excavation. You're trying to find things. But we fortunately found a lot of footage, not a lot, enough on her and enough photos that hadn't been seen. Enough stuff with Tupac that hadn't been seen. And the one thing that was odd was there was no footage of them together, of him and his mother together.

None. Not even as a young boy? No footage. There's five pictures of the two of them. Wow. Not even as a young boy? No footage. Wow. There may have been, there's five pictures of the two of them. Wow. Five.

Do you know why? Did they ever say why? Did you get an understanding of why? Just that odd Latoya and Michael thing, maybe. I don't know. So, I would go back to the music videos

for other reasons. I would get the outtakes. I always do that. Let's get the outtakes. Let's find the moment before the moment, the moment after the moment. And I found in the I Get Around video, a lunch break that they shot, a barbecue. And there he is sitting with his mother eating barbecue.

And it's in the film. It's only like 15 seconds, but it's the only time you see them two together. I got a couple more questions because I know you got to go. What's going on with the Marvin Gaye biopic? Did that happen? We'll see. We'll see. It's supposed to be Dr. Dre and Doll. We'll see. We'll see. It's supposed to be Dr. Dre and Doll.

We'll see. We'll see. It's a little more complicated. We got the script. It's a great script. But a funny little thing happened on the way to the bank. Snoop Dogg came to me with his biopic. And that's being fast-tracked right now.

Marvin is ready, but there's some elements that need to get in place. That right there, that's one of them ones you can't f*** up. No. That's got to be Ray level. What's Love got to do with it? You know, part of the challenge for me was when Snoop came to me with his biopic, and I saw that Universal was that enthusiastic about getting it done right now, and I saw that I could tell an inspiring story but go back to the hood.

I go, you know what? This is probably smarter for me to do first because it's something I'm familiar with, the music, the culture. Let me do this first and not just jump into Marvin. You know, you got to thread a needle. And, you know, that I think with Snoop and his story, it's more innate to me. And I'm like, let me get those reps in. Let me get this out right now.

Because Marvin is like a whole other ballgame. Do you have talent attached to it? Do you all know who gonna play marvin or no okay no we we think we know and but you know and i prefer being unknown marvin and how much of the snoop are y'all done how much of it yeah script is in this month and we're meant to be shooting at the end of summer that movie got to be minutes to society boys in the hood type that's right that's right yeah but see the thing starts that way okay it starts that way stupid stupid because remember everything he goes through for defro and then he buys it back and owns it which is amazing i want to go back to the 90s but you gotta do all that but murder was the case that's what you go through all that but you want to go back to his crack dealing correct yeah but

it has to end with him buying the catalog and owning Death Row. You know what's funny? You said I hadn't thought about that. Him not having his masters and all that, and then coming back to him owning it all. You know what Snoop did recently? I don't know if I'm out in this right now. Listen, I adore this guy. This dude is so special. We love Snoop.

So grounded. Such a great listener. Such a great... I mean, he's a sage. He gave Dr. Dre the Chronic Bang. Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. He bought the whole Death Row thing. Catalog, yeah.

Gave Dre the Chronic, gave it to him. I said, Snoop, who does that? Michael Jackson. Who do you do that with? You know, Michael had got the Sony, half of Sony publishing because he had the Beatles catalog, so it was Sony ATV, and I think he gave it back to Little Richard, if I'm not mistaken. Oh, okay, I hadn't heard that story. He definitely didn't give Paul back his shit. Nah, nah, nah.

He didn't give the Beatles back his shit. He did it to mostly black artists. I definitely know it was Little Richard. I forgot who else though. When Snoop did that though, I was like, wow. Wow. You know, gave it to him. That's crazy. How come it seems like the essence of those movies, Menace to Society, Dead President, why can't we capture that now? I don't feel like anybody can capture the essence of those great, Menace to Society, Dead Presidents, why can't we capture that now? I don't feel like anybody can capture the essence of those great 90s films now. Maybe I'm just old.

Nah, not at all. I'm stuck in my ways. But I just don't feel like nobody captures those anymore. I don't get moved. The feeling's not the same. Especially with black. When you see black entertainment right now, I'm going to go somewhere with this. And you see all the sharpie beards.

Don't insult Envy, please. That's hilarious. You look back and watch a show like white shadow and you see the way their their hair and their how real it was a cooley eye you know 90s was like an offshoot of of that where it there was just a natural like analog salt of the earth thing and we've've all become so groomed and meticulous. And that's part of the challenge. The culture has changed. And things look different and things feel different. So I think the best one can do is go back and make a period piece

and try to be as true to that period. If you want to make a movie about the 90s or the 80s or the 70s or the 50s, whatever it is, but to make a contemporary black film right now it's gonna be sharpies and you know beijing and damn envy oh it's a running thing what story would you want to tell now i don't just any what i what i want to dedicate myself to now because i see what's happening in the culture is just like incredible black stories, journeys, and do what you just said. How can I now, knowing what I know now at 51 and coming into my prime, how can I give back and tell inspiring stories? They could be dark and edgy and whatever, but there's a lot of black stories being told now. There's a lot of good ones, though.

And nobody wants to say that because it's not a lot of them. It's a lot of them being told, but not enough for us, I guess, to be critical of them. That's right. You know what I mean? So because certain movies come out, and I'll just be like, ugh, I'm not going to say nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because I don't want to impact the sales or the ratings or anything, you know. Well, I'll stay to say this because this takes time. I think the challenge, you know, in our culture, in our cinema, is we compete with one another instead of competing with what came before us. That's right. Or what is considered the standard. Right. And so black cinema, there are like a handful of at the typicals, whether it's Scorsese, Coppola, James Cameron, whoever. You know, you have to press yourself up against those guys, those ladies, and, like, figure out what it is and do your homework.

You know, and don't try to just speak to your own community. Try to be transcendent or attempt to be transcendent. Well said. Well, Alan Hughes, make sure you check out Dear Mama. You can see it everywhere on the 21st. That's right. On FX. On FX and it's the breakfast.

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Well, good morning. Hey, B. Scott. No, neither one of y'all know what y'all saying. No. Wait a minute now. Keep it respectful. That's what Missy said. What did Missy say? What did Missy say on that one song? Richard Richards.

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there it is and so okay so we for the last years, we had exclusively on lovebscott.com the new trailer for Housewives of Atlanta. And this year was no different. And this year it is explosive. Okay. And I'm going to play a little clip of it. You need to go crazy ass trip. Go cry now.

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I can't do this. Break it down, break it down, break it down. Break it down, break it down. And so the first part of that, you heard Candy and Marlo get into a really, really heated exchange. Anytime you hear Candy go, You know she's upset. I told you black people love making sound. So Candy does. And I love Candy.

I love you, Candy. Don't do it. so she got really upset and it went to a new low so basically what happened was and also i want to say this the reason why bravo came to me and gave me these trailers is because they were sick and tired of me telling everything that was going on in the season but shouldn't they want that no they didn't want me to tell everything. Oh, because you were telling them beforehand. Absolutely.

And completely. But because I want them to know the peace treaty is off. Because they tried to do some funny business about this trailer and still trying to tell me

what time it is. No one tells B. Scott what time it is. What's the funny business? The funny business is basically like, you know, they upset that, you know, well,

initially, because we broke two Married in Medicine medicine exclusives they told me they were going to take the trailer somewhere else gotcha and i said if you did that i'm gonna go to war and when i say go to war it means that i will recap every episode of the show before the show comes out talk that talk b scott oh yeah my sources are extensive it's not just housewives i have executives production where we want to go with that. It's not like Bravo just need to give B. Scott a show. Just give B. Scott a recap show or something. And to be honest, you know, and why are we letting the chopper fly?

Andy Cohen does not need to be hosting the reunions for black shows. Talk that talk. He does not have the cultural relevance. It is not me being disrespectful to Andy Cohen, but you can't use your white privilege to sit there and talk down to people who need that job, especially black women. Okay. And cause he doesn't have the finesse.

You can't finesse our culture. Either you're a part of it or you're not. And Andy can choose not to make that decision. Cause he's an executive producer. All of that. Absolutely. So B Scott should be hosting the reunion show. Yes.

Okay. Yeah. Because no one has an extensive, you know, history with the housewives as i do it doesn't have clearly a love for the franchise i do but it doesn't have to be a reunion show it could be like a show every week a recap show a reunion a recap show every week it can come on right after the episode right after the episode when she interviews well b scott interviews the

cast and all that other stuff you know why that's interesting because there's so much conversation that happens about these shows on social media. Why wouldn't you just have a show on your network that just carries that conversation to television? And think about this. When the show first started, I had the Housewives on my YouTube channel. I was interviewing Housewives, Mariah Carey, Jennifer Lopez, and the list goes on way back when. Before it was even a thing. Now people are like, ooh, I got celebrities on YouTube. Gotcha.

Been done that. Now B. Scott, you said two people had you blocked. But we got to get to why that interaction they were having. So they went to a new low. So basically,

Marlo brought up about the shooting that happened at Candy's restaurant. Candy got upset, went into the uh, uh, uh, and then said,

and then said, brought up marlo's history criminal history and the fact she slashed a girl in the face who later committed suicide hey they got real low and then deepak chopra came in somebody's talking about healing i mean that was just like i think they were just having a moment to kind of recenter themselves and then the other exclusive should I just keep it for the other part the other component of this is that in Portugal they had your group trip

and there is a recording one housewife recorded another housewife having discussion about that housewife kissing another woman on the show so there it is you don't understand that I watched the house side and that's the reason why I'm giving Bravo woman on the show. So there it is. You don't understand that because I've never heard any of this before.

I watched the House Side Paratimes and I was confused. And that's the reason why I'm giving Bravo just a little bit because I don't want to say who the people were

that did the recording and what was, you know, I'm going to give a little bit of reason to watch the show. But that is exclusive. They went to New Lowe's

and I can't wait to see it. I don't watch the show but I took a sip of that tea and I was like, you know, give me another sip. Not before we go. You know, earlier you were telling about two people that you blocked. Two people that got me I don't watch the show, but I took a sip of that tea and I was like, you know what? Give me another sip. It sounded good. Not before we go.

You know, earlier you were telling about two people that you blocked. Two people that got me blocked. And you were telling me that one of them called today to try to come back on the show. Nene. Yeah, one of them was here in town this week and wanted to host, but you know. And let me just say this. I want to say this for the record. Nene is the all-time funniest housewife.

Absolutely. She has the comedic quality that no one else has. Of course. We are also, regardless of whether quality that no one else has. Of course. We are also, regardless of whether she said so or not, we're friends. So how it got started was she got on the show,

even though I've known Nini the longest, we are friends. I've hung out with her so many times. She said we weren't friends on the show. So by the time the information got to me that she was fired, I said run the hell out of it. And then when I did,

she blocked me. So you're not friends anymore? No. Well, I still, I mean, run the hell out of it. And then when I did, she blocked me. So you're not friends anymore? No. Well, I still have love for her. She was not wrong about Bravo. She went about it the wrong way. That's all I got to say. When's the last time you spoke to Nene?

Years now. Damn it, man. That don't sound like y'all friends to me. It doesn't sound like your friends. And then the other one is Portia. She blocked me because I put out the exclusive about how she got her peach cobbled by Bolo. She got her what? Her peach cobbled.

Peach cobbled? Her, she. Oh, what's the name? Smashed. Got it in. Smashed. Cobbled. Got it cobbled.

I thought you were saying peach cobbled. Peach cobbled. Cobbled. You don't got to hit dump for that. See that? You don't want to hit the dump. You don't got to hit dump for that. You don't want to hit the decentest finger on the dump fast.

But I got love for Nene and Portia, and they should unblock me. And I would love to have them both back on Housewives of Atlanta. You should speak to Nene. I should. And Portia. And Portia. Portia, Portia, Portia. And if I had slept with Bolo, I would just say, yeah, I did it.

Portia should have owned it. She's so honest with things. Who's Bolo? Bolo's the stripper. The hung stripper. Oh, the stripper from like three seasons ago. I think his name is Bolo. Ain't his name Bolo? I think they. The hung stripper. Oh, the stripper from like three seasons ago. I think his name is Bolo. Ain't his name Bolo?

I think they done switched out the tea. I was drinking one kind of tea. I think y'all just switched it up. So Bolo was a couple of years ago. Remember, there was the rumor that the stripper came, everybody was drunk, and the stripper smashed somebody. She is allegedly saying that Portia's... And I was the one behind that.

So that's why she blocked me. I like her sheets, too. She got sheets. I like her sheets. Give me some Portia's sheets. I got was the one behind that. So that's why she blocked me. I like her sheets, too. She got sheets. I like her sheets. Give me some Porsche sheets. I got some on my bed right now. No, them sheets is really good. Them 1,800 thread count sheets

Porsche got. Ain't nothing but love. And after you wash them. Yeah, there you go. See? See, Porsche, unblock me. That's right. See?

Pamper by Porsche. I'm gonna put them on my bed. Okay. All right. Well, we got more rumors with B. Scott in a little bit. Charlamagne, who are you giving that donkey to? Your donkey ain't going to be better than that T.

No, it probably won't. But for after the hour, former SNL star Victoria Jackson, she needs to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with her. All right. We'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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Okay, white supremacist violence is and always has been the number one threat to our society. But I'm also very proud that my wife is white. It's a breakfast club, bitches! Alright, Charlene, please tell me why was I your donkey of the day? Well, donkey of the day for Thursday, April 13th goes to a former SNL star named Victoria Jackson. Never heard of her until this story, but she was a cast member on SNL for six years between 1986 and 1992 and I suppose she resides in Franklin Tennessee because she decided during a council discussion on Tuesday to try her best to stop a gay parade from taking place in Franklin

yes the parade needed a special event permit for the occasion and during Tuesday's conference it was agreed the celebration had been given approval. But Victoria put up a fight. Oh, yes, this human jar of Hellman's mayonnaise did her best to convince the council of why Franklin having a pride parade was a bad idea. No, seriously, she's not just against homosexuals. She apparently doesn't like pride, period. Oh, I can't make this type of stuff up. Listen, Victoria Jackson. God hates sodomy he hates homosexuality he said

it's an abomination and he hates god hates sexual immorality all kinds fornication adultery etc and god hates pride like one of the most things he hates is pride proverbs 11 12 when pride comes then comes disgrace but with humility comes wisdom the lord detests all the proud of heart be sure of this they will not go unpunished and sodom and gomorrah proves that god hates sodomy and sexual morality and pride i just want to encourage this generation not to be brainwashed. Why, when it comes to some religious folks, especially evangelicals and Christians, they can say God hates everything except for hate.

Like, God hates gays, God hates blacks, God hates, you know, Latinos, God hates gluten. But when it comes to racism, okay, white supremacy, any form of prejudice, which they are clearly displaying, God has no hate towards that. And look, I'm no Bishop T.D. Jakes. I'm no Sarah Jakes or Torrey Roberts. Salute to the first family of faith. Don't love them. I'm not any of them, clearly. But I am almost positive that this human keg of craft mandates totally misinterpreted.

Proverbs 11, 12. OK, when pride comes, then comes disgrace. But with humility comes wisdom. The Lord detests all the proud of heart. Be sure of this. They will not go and punish listen There's three types of pride okay, you have superiority you have arrogance and you have dignity okay some say conceit Arrogance our superiority you know you have the kind of pride that is based in self-centeredness And that's destructive selfish pride is especially destructive to relationships because the opposite of loving others is not hating them okay but simply being self-centered victoria not only are you doing the opposite of loving others doing the opposite of love thy neighbor as thyself you are showing superiority and arrogance for people who are simply expressing pride in who they are that's what dignity is the

actual definition of dignity is to state our quality of being worthy of honor or respect. Dignity is a sense of pride in oneself, self-respect. So black pride, gay pride, Latino pride, it's simply showing a sense of pride in oneself. Okay, that's it. See, American pride, all right, when you hear people say I'm proud to be an American, it's usually rooted in superiority.

Okay, white superiority and Anglo-Saxon arrogance that will cause you to stand up and tell someone who's proud to be who they are and wants to hold a parade to celebrate who they are. You know, the pride that God actually hates, OK, will make you feel superior to those individuals and have you tell them God hates them for who they are. You don't even know what pride means for real, for real, Victoria. Okay, not gay pride, pride rock. You probably think the Proud Boys are shining examples of the type of pride God loves, but that's another story.

Now, B. Scott, I feel you have thoughts. I mean, you almost made me want to shout. That was, I mean, Charlamagne, that was quite the spiel right there. I just think that she much like, you know, she left SNL, right, for a sitcom that didn't get picked up. That's true. Just like her face. Jesus. So I'm so tired of people who look like that having any opinion on my community.

Pick up your face. Pick your face up first before you come over here telling me what I should and should not be doing. Please let Remy Ma give former SNL star Victoria Jackson the biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw. Hee-haw. You stupid mother f***er. You dumb. You got to use that one.

That's a good one. That's a good one. Pick up your face. Pick up your face. Pick up your face. Pick up your face before you got anything to say about me. Yeah. Jesus.

Before you have anything to say about me, pick up your face. Pick up your face before you got anything to say about me. Yeah. Jesus. Before you have anything to say about me, pick up your face. Pick up your face. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey of the day. All right. Now, when we come back, let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. Let's talk colleges.

Oh, yeah. There was an article in Business Insider, even though I didn't go to college. Nope. There was a good article in Business Insider. All right. And they were saying a majority of Americans now think getting a college degree isn't worth it. That's right. 42% of people say, 42% of people with college degrees said it didn't end up being worth getting.

Right. And now they say that 56% of Americans now say a four-year college degree isn't worth the cost. So let's talk about it. I would assume because it didn't translate into dollars for some people, maybe? Yeah. I mean, college is very expensive, you know? And we'll talk about it when we come back. 800-585-1051. I will say, and

I've been saying this for a long time, I think going to high school and going straight to college is... You said we're going to talk about it when we come back. No, I just want to say we talk about it when we come back. People have some opinions. We have to be on time for BET, Envy. We have to practice good habits. Could you stop? Go to commercial.

That doesn't even sound right, being on time for BET. When a point is made, a point is made. All right, you're right. You're right. But we'll talk about it when we come back. Well, we're a little late anyway, so now that makes sense. 800-585-1051. We'll talk about it.

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And we're opening up the phone lines 800-585-1051. We were talking about something we've seen in Business Insider where they're saying the majority of Americans

now think a college degree isn't worth it. And they said 56% of Americans now say a four think a college degree isn't worth it. And they said 56 percent of Americans now say a four year college degree isn't worth the cost. And I was saying that I got my degree, of course, from Hampton University, HBCU. Shout out to everybody, all the Hampton alums. I would say I think that students should take some time off before they go to college. And I'm going to tell you why. When I went to college and as most students go to college, a lot of them go to pass. They just want to get their degree and get out. And that's what I did. I got my degree and got out. But now realizing there are so many classes and courses that I should have really listened to because it would have helped me in life.

You know, I mean, and I wish I could go back to those courses. And I tell my daughter, who is in NYU now, that, you know, take those classes serious. Just don't study to pass, study to actually learn, whether it was accounting, whether it's business, whether it's marketing and management. Now, I didn't get my degree in communications. I got my degree in marketing and management, which I use in my career. Because I always said I was going to have money going into high school, but I just needed to know how to keep it, how to invest it. And that's what college taught me. But why tell kids to take time off when I tell kids what courses they should take? Because I think they got to figure out and learn what they want to do. You know, I think if you take that time off, maybe jump into the workforce a little bit, then you can really understand what you want to do. Because most people don't know

what they want to do. They go college, they go to college and just try to figure it out. That's interesting. You know, I tell my daughter, my daughter's 14 now, she's a freshman. I tell her now that, you know, even if she doesn't know what she wants to do even even though she does i think going to college is a good thing to do until you figure it out to explore yeah because you're not wasting time like at least you'll have a degree after those four years i didn't go to college you know even though i am a doctor honorary doctor from saki you bought that but i didn't go to college but i'm just saying i feel like that four years is it's a good way to deal with your time. But you take classes and courses that you don't know.

Like my daughter went from real estate to she wanted to be an attorney. Then she went back to real estate. So she doesn't necessarily know. What do you think? I mean, I can only speak from experience. So, you know, I went to the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill. And for me, it was something that was definitely needed because it gave me a basic working knowledge of the world.

And I feel like a lot of people could benefit from that. I do believe that just knowing just fundamentals of just like photosynthesis or just like certain things just allows you to appreciate things in a whole new way. And I do believe that you should use college, as you were saying, Charlemagne, to kind of explore because that's what the general requirements are. So the general requirements are all over the place.

And as you explore different little tastes of things, you can then say, OK, I want to go deeper in that. And that becomes your major. And my fear is that if they were to take time off and they go and work, then they're going to start getting real life responsibilities, which means you're buying stuff with the money that you're making at this job. And so that means you've got to keep that job to keep these things

and it prevents you from ever going back. The only thing about exploring is you're exploring by paying a bill. Like you look at certain colleges of $40,000, $50,000 a year and you're exploring spending money and you might be taking the wrong classes that you don't like.

Like there's a lot of people that are six-year, seven-year college students because they started thinking they want to be something. And then they wind up figuring out, that's not what I want to do. And then by the time they graduate, they have $300,000, $400,000 worth of debt that they got to pay off. And now it takes them 12 years to pay off. I like what B. Scott said, though. You know, if you don't go to school, you probably get in the habit of just working. Yeah.

You know? And I also think that sometimes you can tell it, like, when people just don't have a basic knowledge of stuff you'd be like oh okay i get it you just you skip some courses well let's go to the phone lines a lot of people are on the lines hello who's this hey good morning this is bernard hey bernard good morning talk to us all right so i just wanted to touch on this i work um at a college for about 11 years. And so when it comes to the affordability, colleges are very expensive, but it's also public schools that are much more affordable. And in some cases, if you qualify for like telegrams, you can actually do an entire bachelor's degree for free without paying anything out of pocket it's usually when we get to those master's degrees and graduate programs or those private schools that folks are paying a ton of

money and not releasing that return on investment okay i will say that too you know the bad thing and this is why we always talk about you know free education uh my mom worked extra hard and my dad worked extra hard to to so that i wouldn't have huge college bills when I graduated. I think they paid like 70% of my college tuition. I had to pay 30% when I graduate. So for me, the biggest thing for my kids, I have six, is to make sure that... You have six? Six kids.

Oh, wow. I have a 21, 18, 9, 8, 6, and a one-year-old. That's impressive. But for me, I want to make sure my kids don't have any college bills. So I work extra hard to make sure when they graduate, they start from zero. You do have to work extra hard. That is true. You know what else with college, though, that I don't hear y'all talk about enough?

Don't you learn other things outside of just getting a degree, like meeting people, networking, social skills? That was another thing. You know, me coming from New York, all I was about was New York. But when I went to college, I had a roommate from Mississippi. I had a roommate from Ohio. I had a roommate from New Orleans college I had a roommate from Mississippi. I had a roommate from Ohio. I had a roommate from New Orleans. I had a roommate from Jersey. So it opened me up. Me doing music

to all those different areas of music and things like that. And in most cases it's a safer environment to explore different things and learn how to interact with people than the real world. So it's like a buffer. It's like a step right before you on your own. And that's why I'm not knocking these people who said it wasn't worth it to get a degree but are you just uh equating

worth to monetization because i'm sure you probably got life lifelong friends like my wife has her two best friends are from college right you know i mean they've been friends for 20 plus years and i also think that you touched on something that was powerful you said in terms of a lot of people go to college just to pass correct it's about why you are there but if you're there to learn and actually get something from the experience you're going to have a different result than someone that's there just to pass that's true too like i didn't want to go to college right i was a dj i wanted to do music but in my family i was the first person to go to college in my family wow so my parents were like no you're going like they wanted me to go to Morehouse and I was like, Morehouse is too far.

They wanted me to go. So for me, I was doing it more for them than for myself. I'm going to be honest with you, you're not a Morehouse man. Hampton is good for you. I'm a Hampton man, sir. Yeah, that's...

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with being a Hampton man, sir. I can call some of my Morehouse people. Do you think Envy's a Morehouse man? You can call him if you want. No, but I thought that Howard was the real H.U. No, Howard...

Oh, my God. I'm about to fight you here. I'm about to fight you here. I'm about to fight you here. My money on B. Scott. I've been fighting my whole life now. 585-1051. We're talking about colleges this morning. Now, we were saying a majority of Americans now think getting a college degree isn't worth it.

What are your thoughts? And they're saying 56% of Americans now say a four-year college degree isn't worth the cost. Let's talk about it. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's topic time. Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club. Let's talk about it.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We have our co-host B. Scott here. talk about it morning everybody it's dj envy charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we have our co-host b scott here now we're talking uh a majority of americans now thinking getting a college degree isn't worth it now you went to what school carolina carolina you got your degree i did okay so psychology what were your thoughts on going to college have you learned a lot of the things that you know that you learned in college do you use them in quote-unquote real life no I damn it man I think that what college did for me is just gave me a way of thinking it gave me a

basic knowledge that I use in everyday life do I remember the ins and outs of all the particular courses no but I do remember the basics of how things work and it also showed me that if I do this I get this I do this I get this it was my first time of being like, I can put in the work and I get a certain result. And that translated to my life. Like, I now know if I put in the work, no one can touch that. It's like no one can touch my degree. But I do feel that colleges need to change the curriculum a little bit. Yes.

I think there's a lot of things that we should learn, whether it's investments,'s accounting whether it's taxes uh a lot of doing that in high school now my daughter my daughter's school has had a financial literacy class i love that yeah i love that real estate things like that i think they should be teaching us in college now and college should be free it should be like other countries you can go to college for free and you don't have that debt at the end but i also believe there's a lot of financial aid there's also different scholarships grants that people can apply for especially minority students well unless the supreme court does what they're going to get that affirmative action thing yeah yeah well let's go to the phone lines hello who's this this is preston hey preston good morning where you calling from oh i'm calling from the

capital city of Michigan. Okay. What's up, Preston? Now, what's your thoughts on college? You think it's worth it or not? Yeah, in simple words, yes. Talk to me. To kind of expand on that, I think there's a big misunderstanding that just going to college is going to make you rich. Correct.

And that's just not the case. Going to college is an imprisonment of your studies. And, you know, a lot of people actually who go to college don't look to make a lot of money they just look to do something they want to do in life that's true but i also would say this too and like charlamagne said and a lot of these schools once you change the curriculum you change the mind frame of a lot of the way that people think i think a lot of times colleges uh teach you how to be a worker and not an investor not an entrepreneur and like even with my daughter's school now like they're teaching

them how to be entrepreneurs they are encouraging to sell bracelets and sell certain things and design and make things so what that is i can see my kids already being entrepreneurs and talking about business and how much this costs and how much is the investment how much do you make back so i think the curriculum really needs to change in a lot of these colleges. I guarantee that those people, those 42%, if you ask them why they think it's not worth it, they say it's the debt. I bet you the majority of them say it's the student loan debt. And one thing we didn't talk about too is that,

I know they did this a lot in Carolina, is the internships. So I will only have access to those internships by being at college. So during the summers, I would be doing internships. I would be exploring once again before it became real. I think that's whack, but that's the truth. Because even here, you have to be enrolled in college to do an intern at the breakfast level. I'm only a radio personality because I was allowed to do an internship in 1998 at Z93 Jams in Charleston, South Carolina, before you had to be in college to get one.

I thought you was going to say before there was radio. I was like, wait a minute. But like you said, yeah, but think about it. Somebody now who probably came up the same way that you did wouldn't get a chance to do an internship and wouldn't be able to do radio because they are not enrolled in college. Absolutely.

They're stupid. All right. Hello, who's this? Hello? Hello. Hey, what's your name, bro? Hey, this is Andrew. Andrew, what's up? Talk to us. What's your thoughts? Long time listener. I actually agree with you, man.

I got my BA and when I got out of college, I remember going to a job interview and the first thing they said was, what was your job experience? And I was like, I just got out of college I don't have any so I didn't get that job and actually the job that I got was making pennies until I got more experience and a current company I'm at now I've been there for over 10 years

actually started listening to y'all around the same time I started the job but it was a fight to get the position and then even get, you know, salary increases for the company. You know, just having a degree, you walk in the door, don't necessarily mean you're going to get a good position. That's true.

So it's just, you know, you go to college and you spend all this money. I got a house that I'm not even living in that I'm paying for right now. And it doesn't pay off financially when you have those loans on your on your credit right and you're not making the money that you think you're going to make when you go to college that's why i said i told you i guarantee if you pull those 42 percent of people

who say college degrees aren't worth it all of them say it's because of the student loan debt but i won't say it's too full i would say probably 30 40 of the money that i make is from my hbU brothers and sisters. The networking. Yeah, the networking. Like, you know, somebody that works at, let's say, Pepsi and they hire me for something. Or somebody that works for AT&T or somebody that works at State Farm or HBCU Go. It's a lot of my brothers and sisters that went to HBCUs, whether it was Morehouse or Clark or Spellman or Morgan State or that other

H you and I'm just joking how it or Hampton Morgan's like all of them I get money from them that's what I said it's about the money around my wife heard her three best friends she all she met him at the University of South Carolina the best friends now they were her bridesmaid in their wedding so that's got to be worth it right yeah the alumni yeah I mean, even our boss up here, Thea Mitchum, of course she went to Hampton University. Yeah. And I think those are good places

if you don't know what you want to do or you do know what you want to do and don't want to go to college for four years. I think the moral of the story is school is worth it. College is worth it. I think so. I think so. All right.

I feel a little bad. I hit two of my Morehouse partners. I asked them, could DJ Envy have been a Morehouse man? One said, yep. The other one said, hell yeah. We know 300 light-skinned Negroes from New York. The other one said,

he would have been our version of DJ Cannon and Drama. Yeah, well, shout out to Cannon and Drama with the clock. So shout out to Morehouse. I actually got accepted to Morehouse. My uncle's, or my cousin's a professor there, and I love Morehouse. I love, shout out to all those brothers out there. Well, you didn't strike me as a Morehouse man, but they said they're very diverse.

They said they have every type of Negro from Theo Huxtable to the Wire Corner Boys. Great. I don't think you'd have been a Morehouse man. I wouldn't have been a college person. I think you're more like Morgan State. South Carolina State University. Morgan State. No, South Carolina State.

Morgan State. I have an honorary doctorate from South Carolina State. I don't know anything about Morgan State, but it sounds like you're not going to be allowed to go there anymore. I need a gavel. I went to visit Morgan State when I was looking at HBCUs, and I remember me and my dad walked up, and they were playing dice on Morgan State. Damn, Morgan State.

Some brothers from Morgan State just looked up from their dice game today and said, man, how you going to diss us like that? Well, we got rumors on the way. These guys we talking about. Yes, we do. I don't have in front of me what we're gonna talk about, but I think it's something related to

what's happening in prison in Georgia. Yeah, like the two gangs. Oh, YSL and... YSL. Okay. Yeah. All right, we'll get into that next. So don't move.

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All right. Well, let's get to the rumors. We have our co-host B. Scott here. What are we talking about? The one and only B. Scott. And we're talking about our own versus. This is a versus, but this is a real life versus that's happening in jail. So there's two different crews going on in Atlanta.

Oh, we got to hit the intro. Oh, yeah. This is the rumor report. You have been asking me for quite some time on The Breakfast Club. I wasn't going to come to you when I had to.

It goes a little something like this. Let's go B-Skye. Yes, the way that intro tickles my soul. Okay, so we have the battle of the gangs going on in Atlanta, Georgia. It is Young Thug and also YFN's Lucci's. Gangs are going at it in jail. So basically what apparently happened is one member from Lucci's side had gagged and tied a member from Young Thug's YSL gang. And was trying to scrape off the tattoo from the gang. And I think we have the clip.

And there's a short clip of that. And then there's an extended version of that and then there's an extended version of that. Yeah. And the one that's on Twitter is truly disturbing. Pure evil.

I just don't know how to even. That type of stuff disturbs your soul. That's what I'm saying. Pure evil. Shut up.

I disagree with both of y'all. And I'm going to tell you why. Why? You do know they allegedly, well I'm not going to say

allegedly, but they stabbed YF and Lucci in jail. Like they stabbed him like three or four times so if you stab me am i gonna have any remorse of what i do as revenge no yeah but you stabbed me first yeah you're right but there's still levels of violence no it's not yes it is levels of violence you stabbed me i could have died no there's no levels yeah that's torture what you saw right there is disturbing torture that's an evil human being that's the type of person that will walk into your house, slaughter you, all your children, your wife, your grandma, everyone. They wouldn't think twice about it.

Bro, this is war. You stabbed me. You tried to kill me. You tried to kill me. Take my life away. So now I have to be like, well, I got to be nicer to you when I get my revenge. You're telling me that wasn't pure evil what you heard just now? It's all pure evil.

The way they stabbed him is all pure evil. And I just hate the fact that... But I can't say one evil is more than the other evil. No, that... It's all evil. I just hate how it makes our community look. You right. Oh, man.

I see a video like that. I'm like, whatever the white man does to Negroes like that, you guys just let happen. Oh, stop it. Okay? I don't want any prison reform for that individual. That was wild. He needs to be in the worst possible conditions. And what's wild is they tape it and then put it out?

That's my point. And then also what's wild is that they're letting them do that. So where are the people? Correction officers. The correction officers. Where are they at? And I don't even think that's prison. I think that's the county.

County jail? Yeah, they're still in county. They're still in county. I'm not sure. No, I think they're still in county. Come on, man. That man got... That's a different level of evil.

But if you stab me trying to kill me, am I supposed to think about what I do? Am I supposed to be nice to him? You said there's no levels to evil, right? If me trying to kill me, am I supposed to think about what I do? Am I supposed to be nice to him? You said there's no levels to evil, right? If you try to kill me, there's no levels. No. Okay. So let me ask you a question. Jeffrey Dahmer wasn't on a different level of evil than somebody who might just walk up to you and shoot you?

No, it's different because you tried to kill me. Sure. Not a person, not just a crazy maniac that's trying to kill somebody. You tried to kill me. But you mentioned that this is good that you mentioned that because that was so hard for me to just watch that whole situation with the jeffrey darmer stuff because it definitely glamorized the whole situation yes it should not have been made into a series we did not need to see that there were people online talking about oh jeffrey darmer was fine oh lord you know i mean that he prayed on black

gay men like ate him up and we were sitting there acting like i was like the culture sometimes you see certain things and you like throw it all the way and this is one of the stories that that's how i feel this is disturbing i was like when i saw it i was like it was like that was that's yeah that's i'm glad i'm not in that life but if somebody tries to kill me yes i'm if i catch you if you try to end my life nobody like why not if you try to kill me and stab me you're not in but you just you're not torturing nobody that's torture that is something actually that i have been thinking about because you know with all the robberies and stuff that's been happening in la i was thinking about getting a gun and i have to ask myself if someone came

in my house would I actually use it yes you know absolutely I don't know materialistic things that's insured somebody comes in in house, I'm not asking any questions. Because I don't know if you're coming for material things or you're coming to take my life. So you think I should get the pew pew? Yes, and you should learn how to use it. I think a black person in this country owning a legal firearm and knowing how to use it is a form of self-care. How long are you in town for? I'll take you to gun range.

I am till Monday. Okay. No sir. Pew pew. Pew pew. More like pow pow. Oh God. And the next story we're talking about is monique monique again is you know letting the chopper fly this time she's letting the chopper fly on cbs and paramount over unpaid royalties of the parkers

so she's upset about that she's seeking royalties upon the parkers she considers it a um a breach of contract lawsuit and is filed in los angeles superior court the court documents reported that state reportedly state that the network officially depressed the show's profitability to retain millions that would otherwise be contractually due to monique's production company so how do you guys feel about that i think she should get every dime and she said something else in her statement i think she said that the producers got their money. So the producers knew about it and they sued to get their money.

But talent is always the last to know, which is very true. So I think she should get every freaking dime. She should get what she deserves. And I believe, have you seen the special? Have you watched it? I haven't seen it. It was funny to me. And she took it so personal.

I did not expect her to keep it so real. Where she's talking about, she used to be in Special Ed. And I was like to me. Yeah. And she took it so personal. Like, I did not expect her to keep it so real. Where she's talking about, you know, she used to be in Special Ed. Mm-hmm. And I was like, wow. I did see that part, yeah. And it was like she was crying one minute, and then one minute she was laughing and making it funny. It was like I could feel the personal struggle in her. Mm-hmm.

And I think this also represents that struggle. She is fighting for what she believes is hers. It is hers. Yes. It's absolutely hers. And just in general i think monique has been right about so much and and i think sometimes we as in black media get on the wrong side of things and i think with her we were on the wrong side of it a lot of us were were and i'm happy to see that she's now coming for everybody that didn't do right by her and i feel that same

way because you know that's what i did with bt i i'm if you do wrong by her. And I feel that same way because, you know, that's what I did with BET. If you do wrong by me, I don't care if you blackball me. You had to get a coin out of BET? Oh, she sure did. In 2013. B. Scott definitely did. They snatched me off stage

so the girls today could stand on them. Back in 2013, I was hosting the red carpet and they pulled me off because of how I looked. No. I was too feminine.

Changed the outfit. They said they preferred the masculine looking B. Scott. We'll talk about it. My how times have changed. We'll talk about it when we come back. They wouldn't think to do nothing like that now. All right. Well, thank you, B. Scott, for those rumors.

We'll be back in a little bit. The People's Choice Mix is up next. Get your request in. 800-585-1051. And shout out to all the HBCUs. I know we were playing earlier. A lot of people from Morgan's on my neck now. shout out to all the HBCUs. I know we were playing earlier. A lot of people from Morgan's on my neck now. Shout out to Morgan State.

All right, I told you. They're going to torture your ass. I bet you'll be in there, no, don't do that to me. You might need your pew, pew. You're going to need your pew, pew. They're going to strip your Hampton tattoo off now. I bet you'll say they went too far. If they all tie you, right, beat you up.

I ain't trying to kill them. Yes, you did. You killed them on there this morning. You said they ain't nothing but a bunch of dice playing bums. I didn't say bums. Yes, you did. You killed them on the air this morning. You said they ain't nothing but a bunch of dice playing bums. I didn't say bums. You just made that up. Yes, you did. It's the Breakfast Club.

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Under 17. Not admitted without a parent. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got our co-host, B. Scott, with us this morning. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Now, you were talking about what happened with BET.

Uh-oh. I feel like we need to save this for tomorrow. Prime time tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we need to save this for tomorrow I think we need to save this this is a good one yeah it was it was well when I was doing my homework I see the story I mean I feel like you know in 2013 it was I was hosting the red carpet and I was doing all of the you know branded integrations with the Procter Gamble things. And, you know, leading up to that moment, I just felt like I wanted to be perfect. I was like, this is my time to shine.

I'm going to do this. And when I arrived and started doing everything that I needed to do, a decision was made to take me down. And I was on live television. So I was just somebody said, you know, B's too feminine looking right now. And we want to change the look. And so I was taken down.

Adrienne Bailon was pulled from being, I think she was just attending. I think she was just attending to taking my spot. I went and had to change my clothes and pull my hair back, take off a lot of the makeup and put on men's clothing. And then I was able to return, but in a co-host capacity with Adrian by line this is how you know so much of what are those executives and these networks do is performative now because that wasn't that long ago absolutely so ten years later you know that you're so accepting of that because it takes a lot of people to have to make that call right there there was no pushback like nobody said no we're not doing that and and that's why i was it was so important for

me to do the bet show so the opportunity came about um shout out to big you know big lena way i call it big lena way because she makes big things happen for herself but also people like me um she had shows on bt she had boomerang and she also had 20s. And but every time she would be talking about the 20s and stuff, a lot of the people would keep bringing up what BET did to me. You know, they say like the North still remembers like the Game of Thrones. And so one thing led to another. She was like, B, how can we make this right? Because I want to make this right. I'm in a position with BET now where I can bring you to the table and we can figure it out.

And so she arranged a call with Scott Mills and her and myself. And initially, all I wanted was an apology. All I ever wanted from the beginning of all of it was to say we were wrong for doing this to you. I didn't care about the show. I make my money already. I've been making it. I'm an old school celebrity blogger. I get my money from the traffic. And so I've been doing good. So I just want money already. I've been making it. I'm an old school celebrity blogger. I get my money from the traffic.

And so I've been doing good. So I just want an apology. But Lena was like, uh-uh, we're going to get you more than an apology. And so, you know, and for me, I also wanted to forgive them. I wanted to change the narrative. I don't want to continue. I didn't want to continue going through my life. This company did wrong by me.

Gotcha. And so for me to be able to be the first trans non-binary person to host an executive producer show at BET, it was beautiful. I had a wonderful experience with the new BET. All the people that were involved in that situation with me back then were gone. So Scott Mills was amazing. The show went smoothly. And I'm just grateful to have been able to be a part of the inclusion we see today that's dope you know like i was able to see what i paved the way for people

didn't know that i started i moved to la in 2005 started doing videos in 2007 and i've always presented myself like this before there was language for it now you know the transgender non-binary community that's a whole situation and it's in it's in the you know like it's in the it's like a thing now yeah it's a trend it's trendy yeah it's trendy i mean it's y'all life but it's trendy yeah but when when i first started i was like i would call myself androgynous and then it changed to gender not conforming and then it was you know now it's trans non-binary but my expression hasn't changed you know and so that was just beautiful for me to like damn i was like i'm actually still made it and when you have losing so many people in your life just because we're getting older it was like

wow i actually made it to this moment the first episode of that show that i did you know the 20s after show would be scott it was just like I actually cried because I was like damn I was like I I'm here I would never thought that the network that was snatching me down and taking me off stage would then give me my own show that I would host an executive produce and that doesn't show you how God can move in somebody's life you know even the person that's last one day could be first and the person who's first could be last that's a lot of people that were snatching me down at BET are definitely last right now yeah salute to Lena man people give Lena hell but they don't realize a lot of the things that Lena does behind the scenes for people like what that what you call her baby

that's a real I would tell you I I stated myself I don't have no clique until Lena. Lena has advocated for me the likes that no one has in my entire career. And she has. And with the first episode of the show, she shared with me. She was like, Lena used to watch my videos. And I helped encourage her to be the person she is today. People miss that part. I was just in my living room dancing, being myself, talking about my experiences and just being free. But millions of people were watching back then.

You have so many people. Now that I think about it, like Lena calls me often, but I'm thinking about the majority of the calls that she's called me for in the last few months have all been to do

with other people. Yeah. Or other things. Absolutely. Like literally. Yeah. Like I'm literally, including you,

these guys literally have been about other people. When Lena calls us for something important. And also Lena has, she's often. Other than the other day when she called to congratulate us. When Lena calls us, it's something important. And also, Lena has... Other than the other day when she called to congratulate us. But other than that, it's always something to better humanity. Yes, and she helps me have a softer heart.

Sometimes I can be very, oh, you did this? I'm going to do this. And she's like, nah, just help people. You know what I mean? Just put out good energy. It's going to come back to you. And now I'm more open to not standing alone let me pay it forward

like she does and that's what like showing someone the way is so powerful I agree that's right well shout out to Lena Way

my sneaker game is still better than yours Lena but anyway we got the positive notes so don't move it's the Breakfast Club good morning morning everybody

it's DJ Envy Charlamagne Tha Guy we are the Breakfast Club B Scott our. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. B. Scott, our co-host, is here. Oh, yeah. B. Scott will be back tomorrow, too, by the way. Oh, yeah. B. Scott will be back tomorrow.

I can't wait. I love this. And you like waking up in the morning? I don't. Because I have an extra component that you guys don't. Like, I do glam. Right, right, right. So, like, I woke up this morning at 3.

You know, I had to wake myself up get my face acclimated I don't want to scare the people when they show up you had to pick your face up I got to pick my face up pick your face up and

but no I think that but for you guys once you get used to it you're used to it so now it's your life this is what you do and I think if it was my life and something

I was doing everyday then I would be used to it you was on at 6 o'clock a lot of times especially from the west coast people are it takes them a little bit of time.

They don't turn on until about 7. You was ready to rock and roll at 6. Absolutely. Because I made it in my mind that when I came here today I'm going to show up for myself

and for my community and for all my love muffins. I have a lot of people who have supported me over the years. Love muffins. Love muffins. Yeah, I call my fans

love muffins and they have stayed with me. You called me love muffins. I've never called you love muffins. You did call me love muffins. You sure did. That's never happened. Yeah, I called my fans Love Muffins, and they had stayed with me. You should have only called me Love Muffins. I've never called you Love Muffins. You did call me Love Muffins. You sure did. That's never happened. And why you ain't want to give me a hug this morning?

I called you a while ago. I needed a hug this morning, and you ain't want a hug. Well, you didn't ask. You tried to force one. Okay? That's why. It's consent. You got to give consent.

I got to give consent. That's right. That's actually a good lesson. You got to have consent. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. Relax. Relax.

And also, too, I want to tell people make sure I see you in Atlanta April 22nd for the first ever Black Effect Podcast Festival we are almost sold out to be honest with you

I don't know if we're sold out yet I think I would've got that text already but we were only like a few hundred tickets away from being sold out but Saturday

April 22nd Pullman Yards in Atlanta hosted by me and Jess Hilarious some of your favorite podcasts on stage I love Jess Hilarious oh my god that's family that's family sold out but uh saturday april 22nd poleman yards in atlanta hosted by me and jess hilarious some of your favorite podcasts on stage oh my god so much that's family 85 south show will be on stage horrible decisions reasonably shady just to name a few so go get your tickets at eventbrite.com uh and go to black effect.com for more information all right you got a positive note i do man this

is a quote from one of my favorite people uh dr wayne w dia rest in peace to dr wayne w dia i want y'all to try this today especially since it's a beautiful day out uh give yourself a gift of five minutes of contemplation in awe of everything you see around you go outside and turn your attention to the many miracles that exist all around you okay it's a five minute a day regimen of appreciation and gratitude and it'll help you to focus your life in awe. Go try it out today. That was beautiful. Word. Breakfast Club, bitches. You all finished or you all done? Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own?

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