The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Beyoncé Breaks Ulta Records with Cécred, Quinta Brunson Sparks Debate, Jay-Z Lawsuit Update + Keri Hilson & Larry Morrow Interview

Episode Date: April 9, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Keri Hilson talks about returning to the spotlight, navigating public relationships, and the Beyoncé backlash. Plus, Larry Morrow joins us to discuss expanding his ...New Orleans restaurant empire, Caribbean cuisine, and maintaining work-life balance. We also asked listeners: Have you ever thought you were closer to a friend than you really were? And in ‘Donkey of the Day,’ Charlamagne calls out a teacher accused of stepping on a 6th grader’s back during a lockdown drill. Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:33 Good morning. Charlamagne the God. Peace to the planet. Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. Hump Day? Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, good morning.
Starting point is 00:02:42 How y'all feel out there? I feel blessed, black, and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. That's right. It's Wednesday, Hump Day, middle of the week. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I don't look nothing like you. Excuse me? Nothing. So what? So you know how somebody catch up with you. How the baby been? Baby is great. Out of nowhere. Let me ask you a question. Uh oh. What would be your stance?
Starting point is 00:03:12 Like what would you do if Marley felt like she grows up and she felt like she was born in the wrong body? Man, shut up. I swear. Shut the hell up, man. And this is one of my friends. Baby sitting here, she was taping you. Yeah, I swear.
Starting point is 00:03:24 She was taping you. So I was like, what? I don you so I was like what I don't want to know how you answer exactly I would have said I used to identify as your friend Yo, and it was I seen this girl is so long and she was just so happy now I'm starting to think I don't know what who are you like what you know, you know I'm trying to conflate two narratives like she knows she want to talk about the new baby, but then she won't talk about old stuff. Leave me alone. Right? Exactly. I'm like damn I see you so long. That was the second question that she asked She didn't even ask like how's the baby doing or anything? She's all let me see the baby took a picture and then she I mean I showed her the picture and then she's like
Starting point is 00:03:58 Let me ask your question and then got into that I'm done Should have said what would Trump do? That's what she should have said. Exactly. What would Trump do? What would Trump say? Exactly. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:04:10 That's funny. Alright. Well, let's get the show cracking. We got some special guests joining us today. Man, one of my favorite entrepreneurs will be here, Larry Morrow. Yeah, Larry Morrow. If you don't know, he is a huge entrepreneur out in New Orleans, Louisiana. He owns a bunch of businesses, a bunch of restaurants, a bunch of night clubs, a good
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Starting point is 00:04:41 Spicy Mango. Spicy Mango. So we're going to kick it with Larry. And then also, Kerry Hilsen will be joining us. Kerryrow Steak. Spicy Mango. Spicy Mango. So we're gonna kick it with Larry and then also Kerry Hilsen will be joining us. Kerry Hilsen. We haven't seen her in a long time. 15 years. She put out an album in 15 years. She got a new project dropping called We Need to Talk. It comes out April 18th I believe. Right yes and she's gonna be talking about what kept her away for 15 years. So Kerry Hilsen will be joining us next hour. Alright, let's get the show cracking. We got front page news. Morgan to be here. It's the breakfast club. Good
Starting point is 00:05:08 morning. Morning everybody is DJ envy Jess, Larry and Charlamagne. The guy we are the breakfast club. Let's get in some front page news. Good morning. Morgan. So with your girl news. Yeah. Okay. Happy Wednesday. How y'all feeling? Good morning. Good morning. See, I got that Wednesday vibe. I'm here. Okay. So the Supreme Court, let's get into it y'all. The Supreme Court, another big win for President Trump at the Supreme Court. He is, well, excuse me, the Supreme Court is siding with President Trump over firings of thousands of federal workers. The high court ruled Tuesday that the Trump administration can proceed with the termination of 16,000 probationary employees. The workers were let go across six agencies and departments associated, of
Starting point is 00:05:51 course, with the government and the lower court had ruled that the workers would be instated as illegal challenges proceeded, but the Supreme Court's ruling rescinds that order. So all those people who were probationary employees, terminated by all of those different agencies, yes, that will stand. Why do we keep acting like that's not Donald Trump's court? Like, why do we keep acting like that? Why do people hold out hope and faith that the Supreme Court is going to do the right thing when Donald Trump is the... he built that court damn near? He did. He sure did.
Starting point is 00:06:24 There's a 60 conservative majority and he put three of those people on the court. They already gave him presidential immunity. I mean like what else, what makes us think that the Supreme Court is ever going to do the right thing? So let me ask you, let me ask you Morgan. So all those people when they ask people to send an email back of the jobs that they were doing and the people that said they weren't going to do it and those are the people that's going to get let go?
Starting point is 00:06:43 If they are probationary, if they've been with the agency or whatever agency they were with, you know, beyond the probationary period, then that's a different case. But those probationary employees, the ones who pay pretty much were within the first 90 days of their job, unfortunately, they will not be able to keep their jobs. Yeah. So I'm just saying, yes, thousands of people will be impacted by that. In other political news, yesterday on Tuesday, President Trump gave a keynote address at the annual National Republican Congressional Committee, and he's standing on 10 when it comes to tariffs. Okay. In fact, he said they're helping. Let's take a listen to President
Starting point is 00:07:18 Trump. Many countries have they've ripped us off left and right. But now it's our turn to do the ripping. That's okay. We're going to make our country even stronger, stronger than it ever was. And I really think we're helped a lot by the tariff situation that's going on, which is a good situation, not a bad. It's great. It's going to be legendary. You watch legendary in a positive way, I have to say. He would honestly say he thinks the war with the world is not one at all because the countries are coming to the US adding that Japan is already on the way. Not to mention the additional 50 percent tariffs on imported Chinese goods that were that went into effect at midnight as in hours ago and posting a 104 percent tariff now.
Starting point is 00:08:03 And in case you missed it, China announced retaliatory tariffs against the US with Trump promising to raise duties against the country if they didn't remove the tariffs. Now Trump also added that China, if that until China is ready to deal, that is what's going to be. He added that he felt, excuse me, he felt the what he calls legendary tariffs will help the GOP win midterms in a thundering landslide Now press secretary or white house not of the economy keep going away. Did is going it's always about the economy So if I think that he's he's bugging unless he knows something that we don't know
Starting point is 00:08:37 He keeps going the way it's going right now No way Jose not that I have any faith in the Democrats, but No, no, but he claims, you know, it's going to hurt a little bit and then things will ease up. But you know, press secretary Caroline Leavitt... I also... Right. We all do, right? She touted the tariffs saying the world is clearly responding to President Trump's approach. We just talked about China's reaction, but Leavitt also noted that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pledged to eliminate the US trade deficit
Starting point is 00:09:04 with Israel. So let's take a listen to White House Press Secretary, Caroline Leavitt. American economic surrender is over. President Trump is no longer going to allow American workers and companies to be ripped off at the hands of foolish trade practices that shipped away millions of high paying jobs and hollowed out communities across the country. So Levit also added that 70 other countries have reached out to begin trade negotiations. Of course, meanwhile, Wall Street has seen three straight down sessions due to
Starting point is 00:09:35 volatility caused by the terrorists before seeing a slight slight gain yesterday. So we'll see what happens in the market today. Of course, all of this is because you know, he's like, Hey, let's see who comes to the negotiating table. Let's see who starts to negotiate these trade deficits, these, you know, and trades, you know, China's like, nah, we're not rocking is Israel's like, okay, cool. We go and eliminate your debt. So let's see. We'll see what happens. We'll continue to watch the situation. At seven, we're going to talk about immigration. It continues. The conversation's good. Well, thank you, Morgan.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Thank you. Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. 800-585-1051. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:10:27 This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. And I want to get it off my chest first before we go to the phone calls. Okay. This is what happened yesterday, and I don't know if you guys are aware of this in New Jersey, and maybe some other states. Yesterday, I let a car of mine to somebody so he can drive. He didn't know his license was suspended.
Starting point is 00:10:47 He had parking tickets, he paid the parking tickets, but it didn't go through the DMV. He got pulled over and got a ticket. Did you know in the state of New Jersey, if you lend somebody your car and they have a suspended license that you get a ticket to? Hell no. Yes, I got a ticket yesterday
Starting point is 00:11:02 because he had a suspended license and it's not a ticket that you can pay. I have to go to court and if I don't go to court, I lose my license and I can get jail time with a 30 days because his license was suspended and he was driving my car. I don't see nothing wrong with that. What do you mean? No. Do you know how sick of court envy is?
Starting point is 00:11:21 No. No. Damn. But I don't see nothing wrong that because you know lending somebody your car it may not seem like a big deal but it is and so if you loan somebody your car you should really make sure that they are uh legally able to drive that car but he didn't know his license was made it's not like people who know he had a parking ticket it's like he didn't pay the park he actually paid the parking ticket but it takes two days to register the dmv it didn't register as of yet and
Starting point is 00:11:44 then also how close are you with him? Like you gotta be close if you just lend him cars. Like you don't do that. Okay, yeah, so he didn't. Yeah, so he didn't know. He drove your car. That's like if you lend a car to a family member and their license is suspended.
Starting point is 00:11:54 They get pulled over, no accident or nothing. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. And then you get a ticket. You gotta go to court. You gotta hire an attorney. It's crazy. Well, it does make you think about who you let loan your car.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Cause you might let that person loan your car. They might go rob a bank. I'm serious, like they might go commit a crime. So does make you think about who you let loan your car because you might let that person loan your car they might go rob a bank. I'm serious like they might go commit a crime so you really should think about that before you just say hey you're driving my car. Yeah but it's a family member just like if Jess says yo E let me borrow your car I gotta drive up to the west side I'll be right back. I'm like yeah go ahead. If it's my child I can understand that I'm responsible for that. Jess ain't my child, Jess is my friend. No no but you said a family member. If it's my child I can understand being responsible for that is wild The fact of the whole situation like you have to go to court you can't just pay No, you can't pay you have to go to court because his license was suspended. What family members of you?
Starting point is 00:12:36 I just say his family. I said close friends a close friend. I Gotta stop letting Rome hold my car. Yes I said that. Damn. Yeah, so. And now I gotta stop letting Rome hold my cards. Sometimes I let Rome hold my cards. No, it's the truth. If his license is suspended, you get a ticket as well.
Starting point is 00:12:49 That's crazy. I've never heard anything like that. But that's what happened to me yesterday. But anyway. Hello, who's this? Hey, good morning, good morning. How y'all doing? This is Coach Davis, how's everything?
Starting point is 00:12:58 Yo. What's up, Coach Davis? Give me a hug for your chest. Hey, listen, I had, you know, got some bad news last night. A member of my basketball community succumbed to a heart attack, man. And you know, he was just retired, man.
Starting point is 00:13:13 A week into his retirement. And it brought me back to something that you talked about, Charlamagne. A heart, a heart we when you do a full body scan or I'm not even gonna cover it. So my man Dr. Pum at Soren Medical, man, I'm telling you, go get that Soren heart scan, man. Let him go, he can look at your whole heart,
Starting point is 00:13:35 look at your arteries, he does like a, he'll show you a 3D rendering, he can see all the blockages, everything, brother. And there's no age to go, like don't wait till your 60s, I went, my wife went, I know Charlamagne went, his wife went, everything brother. And there's no age to go to. Like don't wait till your 60s. I went, my wife went, I know Charlamagne went, his wife went, please go. But you know, it's also not just about the blockages, man. The high blood pressure, the high cholesterol, stress,
Starting point is 00:13:54 all that stuff can cause you to, you know, it is This Martin in here, you know, we just seen him, you know, he was playing in the playoffs, you know It just was crazy. How was he? You know He was he was in this early 50 early early 60s. Okay, man. That's young. I'm sorry to hear that Yeah, very young man. Yeah, but I appreciate y'all charming man. All right, brother I love you, too. Yeah, but I appreciate y'all charming, man. All right, brother. You have a good one, be safe. And you too, Jeff. I love you, baby. I love you too, thank you, babe. Get it hoes.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Hold on, Evie, did you get a ticket or did you get sighted? No, I got a ticket. Oh, I've heard of people getting sighted for letting Like license drivers driving their car. No, no, no, I have a ticket, like a ticket with my name on it because my name is on registration and insurance and I have a court date where I have to go to court.
Starting point is 00:14:43 And then when you Google what the fine is It says you can lose your license or spend 30 days in prison Damn for lending somebody your car. That's crazy. Get it off your chest 800-585-1051 hit us up right now. It's the breakfast club. Good morning the breakfast club This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now, he'll tell you what it is. We live!
Starting point is 00:15:17 Hello, who's this? What's up, my name Ana. Hey, what's up Ana, get it off your chest. So, my dude is about to go to prison for five years and I'm like really sad about it. He's hitting it. And I don't, I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I don't it off your chest. So my dude is about to go to prison for five years,
Starting point is 00:15:26 and I'm like really sad about it. Say it again. And I don't. Her dude's about to go to jail. Man, we are the greatest people ever alive. My dude about to go to prison for five years, and I'm just like really sad about it. You think?
Starting point is 00:15:37 No. That's the end of the day. No. No. No, dead ass, y'all. Like, it's a really f*** up situation. So how old is he? He's 46. I'm 32. He's 46. He's going to be...
Starting point is 00:15:50 What did he do? He got in a car accident and the person passed away. And because he had a criminal history, not of the same offense, but... So he had a child with vehicular homicide? Yes. What? Ve- vehicular manslaughter, I think they call it, right? No with vehicular homo-side? Yes. What? Ve- vehicular manslaughter I think they called it right?
Starting point is 00:16:08 No, vehicular homo-side. I can't even understand what she's saying. She said who got in the car where? It's actually called reckless driving causing death. Oh no see that's a different charge. Oh he killed somebody? In the car? He did. Oh, he only get five years? Was he speeding, was he drunk or was his license suspended?
Starting point is 00:16:24 So, he was speeding. His drunk or was his license suspended? Son had got killed a week prior. He was driving just kind of zoned out. Just kept driving and bowed his car Is he okay? He's fine. He's fine. He's great. He actually luckily like little to no scratches, but the lady passed away I mean that's sad on both accounts but you know. It is, it's really sad. It's like a double whammy. So what you calling us? A guy like was like four to 15 years
Starting point is 00:16:52 but he got me at five. Are you calling to ask us how soon she get a boyfriend or what? A little bit. Hey yo, she said a little bit. Move on. Girl bye, no. But he always tell me like, I'm not naive, you're young, you're Girl, bye. No. But he always tell me, like, I'm not naive.
Starting point is 00:17:06 You're young. You're beautiful. You'll be out. Like, I know somebody might f*** you and stuff like that. It's just true, but I don't want to feel guilty. He'll be out of 51. You'll be, what, 36 at the time? Or 37 at the time? And listen, her little ass is probably
Starting point is 00:17:20 the last thing on his mind. He lost his son. He just killed somebody. You know what I'm saying? Like this man. Right, I know, I know, but we've been dealing with this for a minute, so it's not like we don't have no love for each other. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:34 And it'd be good, you know, you answer his calls, go see him every now and then, but you know, he can't take you with him to go do his bit either, because that's just going to stress him out more. So you know, fine, go. Take him back, Aiden. And you can't use a vibrator for five years. You're not a stud. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:17:49 Like, no, absolutely not. She said, you feel me? And a lot of things can change in five years. Like I might move or, you know, something might happen. I just like feel bad. You know, it's kind of depressing. You can't feel bad about moving on with your life. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Like it's just. Yeah. And he wants you to move on. So it's, it's. I don, and he wants you to move on so is Oh, he did. I thought she said that he was like you young boy. Do you? He did he did he didn't say that you know saying he don't want to feel like he holding on to me All right, like I'm holding up my life for him I don't want to just start over. Yeah, but yes, you do at the end of the day Yeah, but yes, you do at the end of the day. So it's a little bit a little bit But but here being our prayers you're keeping me yours to just you know move on. Thank you guys
Starting point is 00:18:38 All jokes aside though, that's why men gotta really think about things before they do them man Yeah, those are the consequences of your actions that you don't think about you got you a little one out here that you love and All of that, you know, you gotta go do some time. They gonna be out here popping up for another goon. You already know. All right, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. Why you got that little shimmy when you said that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:56 I don't know. I thought you. Oh my goodness, we got the latest with Lauren coming up. We do, so y'all be acting like Beyoncé can't sell products, but she just broke a record with in store sales for sacred and we gonna talk about it. What's the secret? That's her hair. Okay, okay. Okay. Yeah. All right. We'll get to that. Next is the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast
Starting point is 00:19:16 Club. Morning, everybody is DJ envy Jess hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Good morning, let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren be coming with straight facts. Tell her, tell her, man. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details. I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.
Starting point is 00:19:36 She be having the latest on this. That's the sound of things. The latest. The latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes she have facts, sometimes she have details, sometimes she have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest. On The Breakfastosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit of everything. But what's the latest? On The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Talk to me! Alrighty, y'all. So for a long time, there's been a conversation around Beyonce and just different product launches and things that she's tried to do. And people notably pointing out that like, you know, sales weren't where they thought that they should be or that they weren't successful. But now there are reports because Beyonce took her sacred hair care line to Ulta that she sold 14 times first day projections versus what she did online at Ulta in store. So the CEO says, her name is Kasia Stillman says, so just our e-commerce sales today alone
Starting point is 00:20:26 have already doubled what we thought we would do in the entire week and that has nothing to do with what they did in store. So a big blowout for her. Now this haircare line when it first came out, people were like, first of all, what does Beyonce know about haircare? And why is Beyonce selling us haircare product? But I think people forget that Miss Tina was doing hair for like 30 plus years. She grew up doing hair for like 30 plus years Yeah, it she grew up doing her Beyonce always talked about in documentaries
Starting point is 00:20:48 She would do her own hair care on tour and things of that nature because it wasn't being kept up because you have to keep Changing wigs and different stuff. So I think people believe this a little bit more Especially because Beyonce now has begin posting the videos of her showing you her own hair Oh, yeah, she's trying to get more personable through this side, you know, just the videos of her showing you her own hair. Her real hair, yeah. Yeah, she's trying to get more personable through this. So, you know, just to congratulate her. That's crazy to say that, though.
Starting point is 00:21:06 What does Beyonce know about hair care? She got hair that she's cared for all these years. Yeah, but even still, they don't say that about Maiell and Camille Rose. Like, you know, we just don't, we don't even really know these people. You know, well, I'ma just speak for me. I don't know Maiell and Camille,
Starting point is 00:21:19 but when I go in a hair store, I'm not gonna be like, well, what does Camilla Rose know about hair? Like, it's just- I believe you, because I don't even know who the people are. You don't even know who I think. Exactly. But nobody says Kim Kardashian, what does she know about underwear,
Starting point is 00:21:32 whatever the Skims is. Right, right, right. Those are the people I name. What does Rihanna know about makeup? You can say that about anything. Right, all of that. Well, I think that the reason why people did that is because with Rihanna and makeup,
Starting point is 00:21:41 when Rihanna launched, we heard from her, we saw her applying the makeup, talking it and all that stuff when Skims launched with Kim you see Kim and Skims all the time behind the scenes making it you know Beyonce's a little bit more removed sometimes she's not as like they're more connected to their fan base and to the people yep exactly and even though we don't know the women who own like the Mayas well if you know if you know but like yeah I don't know them so that's why that was an example but if they're good products they good products I'm assuming. Yeah they are. Y'all don't know them so that was an example products. They good products. Yeah
Starting point is 00:22:07 Know who make pink oil Pink moisture, oh you do know they're not from Delaware, but it's a black family though It's like multiple generations their daughter. I mean name her names. I don't know her grandfather you know them though her daughter No, they booked me for an event and I got to learn so much about them I'm the daughter the granddaughter who's running it right now. Her name is T. She runs the like don't laugh pink oil that did he stuff after special oil. No pink moisturizer! He said pink oil. That's how you can tell he got pink oil. Like his daughter is using it. When Diddy bring out that pink oil, he really like it.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Oh my God. That's how he learned his how. Yo. Alright, so moving on. Quinta Brunson, who is the creator of Abbey Elementary, comedian, actor, all that good stuff. So she sat down with Amy Poehler.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Amy Poehler has a show and they talked about a bunch of different things. It's called Good Hang With Amy. But one of the- Big podcast right now. Yeah, and it's actually good. They do a bunch of different stuff. They phone your friends so your friends can ask questions
Starting point is 00:23:21 to you that Amy might not would have known. So they had people who've been working with Quinta for years and who were around when she was just talking about ABBA Elementary sending in questions. But one of the questions that they asked her that was like a big conversation in this conversation, which I thought was good, which started to trend online as well too, was Quinta and what she knows about white people. And she's like, I don't know them. Take a listen to this.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Are you aware now that Bon Jovi and John Bon Jovi? That's not okay. Are you aware that Bon Jovi is- Yes, I know that. I don't know white people. I know you. I know Tina Fey. I know.
Starting point is 00:23:55 That's it. I know white people in comedy. I don't, I understand the name Phil Collins. I don't know what Phil Collins look like. I don't know that he's different from- Sorry to that man. That Kiki moment. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Was so on point. Unbelievable. That is how I move through life. I'm not crazy. It's crazy to be in a band called John. Is he John Bon Jovi? See? She doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:24:18 His original name. Come on. Was John Bon Jovi. The band name was Bon Jovi, a shortened version of his real name. So then he started going by John Bon Jovi. The band name was Bon Jovi, a shortened version of his real name. So then he started going by John Bon Jovi, but true fans know that it was Bon Jovi. You know everything you just said sounds crazy, right? And the thing is, I'm supposed to know this,
Starting point is 00:24:35 but then I'm supposed to deal with people who can't tell me and Kiki Palmer apart. Quinta divorced that white man, now she don't know none of y'all anymore. Drop on the clues, Bon, for Quinta Brunch. Period. Not that Wimah would be proud. I guess that's why she asked, because she was married to a white guy for, what, four or five years?
Starting point is 00:24:47 No. She asked her because one of Quinta's homegirls who's been in her life way before Abbott Elementary said one day, her and Quinta was just chilling, and Quinta whispered to her for no reason, because nobody was around. She just whispered and was like, yo, is John Bond Jovey a per- like, she was trying to figure out. Like, is this a person? Is it a band? Is it?
Starting point is 00:25:05 That's a valid question. I don't I didn't know yo they this this white explaining I had no idea. But also I do that on purpose sometimes just because of what she said how she said people can't tell her and Kiki Palmer apart. I do that on purpose. It'd be like yeah who's in the Beatles? I'll be like Elton John, Sting you know just to just you know cause a little chaos. People were mad about that John thing yesterday that we couldn't name one song. Well, you name the movie. That was hilarious.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Well, well, but they also had a that's what played a Sandra Bullock clip. I'm just let y'all hear it and then you get it. You know who I got mixed up for the longest time? Not anymore. But there was no reason for me as a young girl in Philadelphia to understand the difference between Sandra Bullock and Julia Roberts. There was no reason for me to know the difference. You might have a little bit of face blindness.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I do. Wow. I know Sandra knows now because that's my girl. Of course, I can tell you guys apart now, but when growing up, no reason for me to know that sure and when people are like You don't know no, I don't I didn't know Sandra Bullock like that growing up, but I definitely knew Julia Roberts I swear to you, but by name or just by literally me as a kid. Yeah, I thought I had to write the Sandra Bullock Julia Roberts on the back Just so I didn't mess it up in here because of course I know them by face, but sometimes I get the names mixed up
Starting point is 00:26:24 Yeah, Julia's been in mobile. I am I know them by face but sometimes I do get the names mixed up. Yeah. Well, Julia's been in Momo. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, Chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I'm excited to introduce a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. I'm having conversations with some interesting folks across a wide range of industries to hear how they reach the top of their fields and the lessons they learned along the way that everyone can use.
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Starting point is 00:27:34 Dr. Joy here. You may know me from Therapy for Black Girls, where we're celebrating 400 episodes of the podcast. That's a whole lot of girl, me too moments. For years, we've had deep, thoughtful, and inspiring conversations about Black women's mental health. And now we're celebrating this milestone in a big way. In this special episode, Peloton yogi Chelsea Jackson Roberts shares how yoga has taught her to stay grounded and present while balancing motherhood
Starting point is 00:28:01 and self-care. I can't control my partner. I can't control my child. I can't control anyone outside the way that I govern myself in this world. And the celebration doesn't stop there. We'll continue this milestone with Dr. Lauren Mims, who joins me to discuss the powerful yet sometimes challenging transition from girlhood to womanhood for Black Mims. Together, we explore how we navigate this transformative journey with strength and grace. Black Girlhood is giggling.
Starting point is 00:28:28 It's sisterhood. But it is also, I think, focusing on learning how to cope with really difficult things that are happening. With insights like these, this 400th episode celebration is one for the books. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Hey kids, it's me, Kevin Smith. And it's me, Harley Quinn Smith. That's my daughter, man, who my wife has always said is just a beardless, d***less version of me. And that's the name of our podcast, Beardless, D***less Me. I'm the old one. I'm the young one. And every week we try to make each other laugh really hard.
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Starting point is 00:29:50 The most unwelcome window into the human psyche. Follow our out of his element hero as he engages in a series of ill-conceived, investigative hookups. Mama always used to say, "'God gave me gumption in place of a gag reflex.'" And, as I was about to learn, no amount of showering can wash your hands of a gag reflex. And as I was about to learn, no amount of showering
Starting point is 00:30:05 can wash your hands of a bad hookup. Now, take a big whiff, my brah. Listen to The Hook Up on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Movies that I actually like, like Pretty Woman, The Ocean's Eleven, Ocean's Eleven, Charlotte's Web. Yep. I can name Ocean's Twelve and Pretty Woman.
Starting point is 00:30:30 The characters but I can't just name the name. Sometimes I can't just name the name. Miss Congeniality, Bird Box, this is so much. I love both of them but when I was old enough to figure out, like when I was younger I was like they the same person I swear but they are both two of my favorite white women. I like that. I think you should get white people mistaken on purpose. Just because they do it to us.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Just for the chaos. Just for the confusion on their face sometimes. I just got a headline. Martin Luther King Jr. paid the bill for Julia Roberts' birth. Here's the backstory from NPR. Brandon just sent me this. What'd you say?
Starting point is 00:31:03 Man, shut up. Get out of here. Oh no, that is true though. I heard that before. I heard something like this. What'd you say? Man, shut up. Get out of here. Oh no, that is true though. I heard that before. I thought that was so crazy. I heard something like that. I don't know if it's true though. You paid for her birth.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Really quick and wrapping up. According to NPR, the world is finally learning the fact that Julia Roberts' birth was paid for by Martin Luther King Jr. and Coretta Scott King. The connection between the two families wasn't a secret, but it resurfaced in a big way before Julia's birthday, October 28th, a few years ago, because she interviewed about it. I was gonna say, how old is Julia?
Starting point is 00:31:30 I don't know what she is named. Anyway, her parents didn't have no insurance, and so they just... I don't know. I'm looking through the article right now. I just got sent to me. Okay, really? Yeah, she paid for the birth, okay? That's what's up.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Oh, no, they reported. Couldn't pay for the hospital. She was born in Georgia in 1967. And she's a mother of two. She's a mother of two. She's a mother of two. She's a mother of two. That's what's up. Oh, no, they reported couldn't pay for the hospital She was born in Georgia in 1967 They ran a theater school and a writers and actors were workshopping one day Coretta Scott called her mom to ask if her kids could be a part of the school So that's not a relationship. So wow
Starting point is 00:31:57 Okay, that's any became friends and helped us out and helped them out in a gym You gotta wrap up she did a interview about that a few years ago. Yep, that's what resurfaced. That's what NPR is quoting was that interview. So basically, she had to cook out. Alright, well that is ladies and gentlemen Lauren. No, she has no problem. No, I paid for your birth. You gonna come over here.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Y'all, I didn't say she was bringing potatoes. I said, relax, we gotta wrap up. She gonna be cleaning up the house. Oh my goodness. Alright, we got front page news next and then Keri Hilsen will be joining us. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. You're checking out the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Morning everybody, it's DJ D.E. Oh my goodness. All right. We got front page news next and then Kerry Hilsen will be joining us. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. You're checking out the Breakfast Club. Morning everybody. It's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back to some front page news. What's up Morgan? So the IRS is agreeing to help ICE find illegal immigrants by sharing information with the agency. Court documents show the IRS will provide the Department of Homeland Security with information for migrants who are either under federal investigation or are already facing deportation. Now the IRS had warned the Trump administration's plan to use it for, excuse me, the IRS had warned the Trump administration the plan to use it for information could be illegal. As a result, the acting IRS commissioner is resigning. Multiple reports say Melanie Krause is stepping down after the agency agreed to share illegal immigrants tax information with federal immigration agents.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Now, Krause is the third person to lead the agency since January and remember she herself was just acting and Doug O'Donnell was acting commissioner as well until announcing his retirement last month. So it looks like the IRS agency is looking for a new head while also talking with ICE to find those illegal migrants and get information on illegal migrants. So did I hear you right Morgan? She stepped down because she was upset that the illegal immigrants had to share their tax information? That is alleged, yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And please, why should the illegal immigrants be exempt from sharing their tax information? No, I don't think that's the thing. They already share their tax information because some of them are filing taxes here as long as they're working. Yeah, what's the problem? already share their tax information because some of them are filing taxes here as long as they're working. But it's a matter of the ice crackdown now that they've been... Well, yeah. It's a matter of ICE using that information to locate and find them, which... Shoot the IRS, use that information to locate and find us.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Yeah, but I guess what they're saying is now is now if you're an immigrant, an illegal immigrant, you're not gonna pay your taxes. Why would you pay your taxes and try to do the right thing if they just gonna give the information to where you at? Pretty much. So you live in America? Yeah, but if you, if so, if you pay your taxes, they gonna come get you.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I guess my whole thing is like, you know, yeah, just, I guess if you're gonna go through all that, you might as well just go through the process of trying to be in a, be in a legal citizen. A lot of them are trying. But a lot of them are trying. But it takes time. It takes years.
Starting point is 00:34:47 It can take years. And they also say yesterday that they're opening up an ICE office in Rikers Island. In the jail. They're going to open up an office right then and there. Why? I guess when people get arrested and they're not necessarily a citizen. Oh yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Take them right there. Yeah, but not only that, you know, because of that new Supreme Court ruling where you can't ship the migrants, well basically you can get rid of the migrants, but there has to be a due process with that ruling. So maybe that's essentially what's happening with that Rikers space is that they're gonna have some due process before they get rid of them.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Can I ask the room a question? Would you be an ICE informant if the IRS gave you tax breaks, if the IRS said, hey, you don't gotta pay taxes for a year, but Would you be an ICE informant if the IRS gave you tax breaks? If the IRS said, hey, you don't got to pay taxes for a year, but you got to be an ICE informant. Or you just like informant one or they put your name here? I don't know what you just got to be an informant. You got to point out, you got to tell people where you think there might be some illegal immigrant activity. Gang members only. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:35:38 I'm just going to snitch. But would you though? I would. I would. All right. So meanwhile, White House Borders, our Tom Homan is highlighting the Trump administration's efforts to secure the southern border. On Tuesday, Tom Homan spoke to Arizona lawmakers before a special joint session at the state Capitol in Phoenix. He said when the job is done, the border will be more secure than it's ever been.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Let's take a listen to those comments from Borders R Tom Homan. We're going to get this job done with no apologies. When we're done, we have the most secure border in the history of this nation. We're going to make this country safer. Every criminal alien we arrest, every gang member we arrest, every TDAMS 13 member we arrest, the other country makes this country much safer. This administration right now in power is going to have for the first time in history this nation have total operational control of our southern border under President Trump. It's going to happen. You take that to the bank.
Starting point is 00:36:33 You take that to the bank and cash that check. Well, he went on to say more people have been arrested in the first two months of President Trump's second term compared to former President Biden's last year in office. He also added that he's happy but not satisfied and there's more work to be done. The address also focused on current border challenges and cooperation between federal and state governments. Several state democratic lawmakers walked out during that speech in protest. I got one more story for y'all. Meta, you guys, everybody uses Instagram, everybody uses Facebook, right? And it's used it as well. You know, start the kids and the teens are starting to ask for pages and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:37:08 So Metta is aiming to make Instagram safer for teens with new safeguards. So the tech company announced on Tuesday that teens under 16 years old will not be able to use the live feature without their parents' permission. Instagram will also require parental permission to turn off the feature that blurs suspected nudity in DMS meanwhile meta will offer teen accounts for Facebook and messenger that provides similar protections
Starting point is 00:37:32 And the company said there are now 54 million teens around the world with Instagram teen accounts since launching last year So look at meta trying to make an effort to keep the kids safe. I absolutely love that I'm not mad at it at Not mad at anything. No way shit before. I want to ask you guys I mean not to say like this so put your kids out there but your kids have Facebook or social media essentially or not necessarily but the kids have Facebook they do have social media yeah tick-tock but and they do have Instagram where they connect with their friends from dance but I'm all over it pause Yeah, no, no, that's essentially what I'm asking
Starting point is 00:38:08 You know, how do you regulate and how do you you know stay on top of them with that and make sure that things are safe? No, give myself all over our kids social media. We make sure you know who's following them their private They able to see certain things so we're all over it Ashen's logins. He's only on TikTok and on Instagram, but I have his logins. I check his internet history, everything. He's a boy and he's pushing into that teenage space. So yeah, I'm all over him. No, that's what it's all about. I think sharing just what you guys are saying can help other parents navigate that space because there are some parents who don't even use it themselves, but then their kids may come and say, hey, can I have an Instagram page?
Starting point is 00:38:48 But you don't know what you're getting yourself into so to know that you guys are regulating your kids' pages and also keeping an eye on things. Definitely. I knew I had to start going through his phone when he called me beloved. That's amazing. What the heck? Excuse me? Can you shut my door beloved?
Starting point is 00:39:04 Can I shut my door beloved? I shut my door beloved. Did you shut it? I didn't. Oh, okay. I didn't. I went in there and yeah, but yeah, don't call me beloved. You know he's not watching a bunch of Ayan LaVonze, huh?
Starting point is 00:39:13 No, no, no. I know that's not who he's watching. But he laughed like it might be a trend. That's what made me go on stage to see if it's a trend. But it's not. He just was like, can you close my door beloved? And that was it. Did Dad say that? When they start, no no wrong has never called me beloved he called me
Starting point is 00:39:28 beloved he never called you beloved promise call me beloved better than Baltimore dummy right yeah yeah like yo don't do that oh what's it what about bro though cuz these kids use bro yeah stop calling me bro cuz he started and I'm like I'm not your brother don't do that. Oh, what's it? What about bro, though? Bro cuz he started and I'm like, I'm not your brother. Don't do that. Don't say beloved. He say King He say champ King King and champ. I never heard that man say beloved. That is crazy Okay, got it Thank y'all that's your front page news follow me on social at Morgan media Morg y n m e d i. And for more news coverage, follow
Starting point is 00:40:05 AB Black Information Network, download the free iHeartRadio app, and visit us at BINnews.com. Talk to y'all later. All right, boo. Peace, Morgan. All right, when we come back, Kerry Hilsen will be joining us. Her new album, We Need to Talk, comes out April 18.
Starting point is 00:40:19 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guide, we are The Breakfast Club, Lola Rosa is here, and we got a special guest in the building. Yes indeed.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Kerry Hilsen, welcome. How you feeling? Oh man, I feel good. It's been a long time since we've seen you back with some music. Where you been? How many times you done heard that question since you've been making the rounds?
Starting point is 00:40:45 Where you been? Where you been? A lot. I've been around. I've been alive, clearly. I've been doing movies. I had been doing making music. Couldn't release it.
Starting point is 00:40:55 But been around. Definitely been around. Been happy. How can you release it? Been finding my happy contractual issues. You know? So is that all over now? That freedom, that's all over.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I'm free. I belong to myself. Oh, so independent Yeah. Oh wow, okay. Was that your choice? Yeah. Wow. Like, because really, because I'm not the same girl I was at 20 when I signed that contract, however old I was. It was around that early 20s. Like I'm not that person anymore and now I deserve a lot more say in my career and the decisions I make and the songs that I'm cutting and releasing and you know, I just, you deserve that control. You've kind of outgrown things. People would think that as an artist, you're able to do what you want to do musically, but you're basically saying that's not necessarily true.
Starting point is 00:41:38 It was not the case for me. I was signed to a label and a sub label that had its own heads, you know what I mean? So yeah, there were, there were, I released songs that I didn't really love. I had to record songs I didn't love. So even though I was known like as a songwriter, I was a new artist. So there are things that you kind of, you got to play the politics game and to me that doesn't really go with art being political. Yeah, I wonder why wouldn't they trust you, especially because of your pen. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:06 I mean, I think to a certain degree, but again, it was just politics sometimes over my feelings, the statements I want to make, the artists I see myself as. It was just like, no, but we have to have a song by this producer, because I've had this side conversation with that producer. Promise them a song on your album, basically. And no matter how the session turned out,
Starting point is 00:42:24 we got to put this out, right? So it's like, you know things like that can happen and no I I didn't have to say because I wasn't distributing I wasn't you know what I mean on that end of things when you think about Carrie Hilsen Like you were everywhere in the late 2000s writing you were your own artist and then you took a step back was that Intentional or was it the industry bulls**t kind of made you feel like, you know what, I don't want to be involved? Or did they push you out a little bit? Like, what was it?
Starting point is 00:42:49 No, it was definitely very intentional. I was actually going through quite a bit personally. I was really, really depressed. And at the height of my second album, One Night Sam was out, Pretty Girl Rock was out. These are huge, you know, Knock You Down was still even in rotation. You know what I mean? Like things were really, really good, but I was really, really low, really, really bad. But it was personal for the most part. And some professional
Starting point is 00:43:12 woes, again, not having a say in decisions that are being made that I have to stand for and represent and do that with whatever level of grace I could have for those decisions being made for me. Just you don't, you don't always agree with who you do that with whatever level of grace I could have for those decisions being made for me. Just, you don't always agree with who you do business with. Absolutely. But yeah, it was my choice for sure. You weren't blackballed? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:31 And how did you get out of that funk? Because you went into depression. How did you get out of that depression? Was it more writing? Was it family? Was it time? All of it. All of that. And vacations and philanthropy and exercising and journaling, writing privately and for others, spiritual retreats. So you went on a healing journey. Yeah, I went on what I call Eat, Pray, Love. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Yeah, so, and there were times where I would just say yes to shows that were in places that I wanted to visit. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Yeah, like otherwise I'm not performing. Like I wanna go there, yeah, say yeah. So not performing. Like I want to go there. Yeah. Say yeah. So with the album, We Need To Talk, you have this digital series called We Need To Talk
Starting point is 00:44:10 as well. And it's like a you to you conversation. It's Carrie Hilsen or Carrie Lynn talking to Carrie Hilsen. Yeah. And you got very- Me versus me. You versus you. You got very in depth about a bunch of different things.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Relationship, you know, just coming back and doing this whole thing again, the press runs and all that different stuff. And now you've been out, you've been talking to some press. Is it what you expected it to be? Do you feel like people are like, because it kind of seemed like you think you thought people were going to be out to get you and you want to protect yourself from that coming back into it. I still think that. Okay. She's very like skeptical.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Because the landscape has changed so much. Yeah, I'm just cautious. It has, right? Because it wasn't this salacious, it wasn't quite this ugly or nasty or like, you know, driven by negativity. It just wasn't that when I was when when I was last here sitting in this chair. So yeah, I'm freaking scared. It was bad already. Exactly, exactly. And now it's just worse. So yes, that fear is real. That is a dialogue that I have with myself daily. It's literally a prayer at night. It's just like, ah.
Starting point is 00:45:09 And the struggle really is how authentic and truthful can I be when I don't feel safe? Right. Ooh. Like, when that is not intact, when your safety is not there. Just like in a relationship, you're not your most vulnerable when you don't feel safe. Like, no, you're not gonna open up, you're not gonna have these innermost feelings be expressed, but it's part of what we do so I have to find that even in the environment. So when you talk about the depression and you talk about the spiritual journey, the spiritual healing, what did that chapter of your
Starting point is 00:45:38 life teach you about purpose? It taught me how dangerous it is to step away from your purpose, to step out of your purpose and away from your gifts. But it also taught me on the flip side of that, that sometimes you have to do what is necessary to re-engage with your purpose in a better way. And so both of those things happened for me. Learning that it was necessary to pick it back up, but it was also necessary to be boundaried and not have it by any means at any cost, but to protect myself in certain ways. So yeah, I learned a lot about purpose. You have a song on the project we need to talk
Starting point is 00:46:15 called Weigh Me Down. And then I hear you talk about purpose and just stepping back into things. And I know there's different things that can weigh a person down, but were you ever worried that the weight that made you want to step away and take some time would make you forget or, you know, just lose the passion for the purpose? Yes, I was concerned with that and it did happen. I lost passion for quite a while. It was really difficult to create at times. My life was radio silent. I didn't listen to music. I didn't sing or hum in the shower like I did since I was yay high. I lost so much passion for it, but I realized that that was really, it was also necessary. Talk about clean slate, that's what me stepping away created the cleanest slate possible.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And that's why it's so scary because I'm so freaking peaceful. Life is calm. It's cool. I like my, because I'm so freaking peaceful. Like, life is calm. It's cool. I like my friendships. I like my circles. I like the safety that I feel in daily life. And stepping back out into the spotlight, that's what the fear is really all about, is like,
Starting point is 00:47:15 am I going to lose how safe I feel? Am I going to lose my peace, my sanity, my mental health? Am I going to be affected? Because of sleep deprivation and, you know, just not, not just comments. I have a thick skin because I'm so much more self-aware also of who I am. Also what I'm here to do and what my gifts are, what my weak strengths and weaknesses. Like I'm very clear. So I don't think that they will ever cut me the same way.
Starting point is 00:47:42 But it being there at all is just can spark a little fear. Well, what puts you to come back out, doesn't it? me the same way. But it being there at all is just can spark a little fear. Well, what pushed you to come back out then? Because I mean, it's yeah, you're making music, making money from writing, you wrote so many records. I mean, I'm looking at your discography now is just so many records. What made you say, you know what, I want to put that foot back out and go in the line of fire. I felt I felt clogged. I felt burdened, clogged, stuck, and that would really sum it up. I felt like I had more to say, more to do.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Because I know I say it in the Me vs. Me series, like I wasn't done. I sat down for a second, but I never felt done. I toyed with the idea, like, am I finished? Do I ever want to do that again in that way? But the answer was yes, just my way. I have to have a certain level of control now over my image, my brand, my words, my dialogue, just all the stuff. But yeah, I just felt like there was so much more and I never stopped creating so I also know what's in the arsenal. And my confidence was built back up and in recent
Starting point is 00:48:43 years I just felt ready. I felt ready. All right, we got more with Keri Hilsen when we come back. Her new album, We Need To Talk, comes out April 18th. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:48:53 It's DJ NVJ, Solaris, Charlamagne the Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Lola Rose is here as well. We're still kicking in with Keri Hilsen. Charlamagne? You said you was getting over a heartbreak. Was that one of the reasons that you had to take a step back? Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:07 I was in a relationship for 11 years. And that was with Serge? Which is a long time. That was not Serge, no. Oh, that wasn't Serge? It was before Serge. OK. Right before Serge. Oh, so Serge was a rebound?
Starting point is 00:49:16 No, it wasn't a rebound. It was years in between. Humble him a little bit. Let him know he was a rebound. Humble Serge just a little. Serge, you are a rebound, OK? I don't know if you knew that, but you are. It's not true. It's not true.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And he gonna look straight to camera too, like he was doing something for you. It right. Straight to camera is crazy. Straight to camera. He was not a rebound. It was maybe three years after that 11 year relationship was over.
Starting point is 00:49:42 I do believe in healing in between relationships. I do believe in that. So I'll be single for years in between relationships. I think that's the one problem with being an artist is that nobody believes that y'all are real people. And so when you are going through real things, nobody will take that into consideration. It's more entertaining for them to be like,
Starting point is 00:50:01 the beehive ran her out of town. Right, that's way more entertaining. But also because I think when you're rich, people are like, they don't empathize with you. That's right. They can know you're human, but they don't care. Because they're like, whatever, she's rich. She'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:50:16 It's like, damn, I ain't got no heart. I can't feel, I can't go through love and heartbreak. I think people don't realize how much noise that they throw gets to to you or not even if it doesn't break you but like you see it you can't not see it right and I just trolled and jump before was the thing yeah I was gonna say cuz I wasn't jumped well be I was never jumped no I'm like, I'm like, don't play with me though. You feel that right? Right. Right. Where are you from? Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Yeah. Okay. It came out real quick. No, I think he's talking about the beehive. Just all of the comments and stuff from the song leak and all that stuff. And yeah, now today at this point, are you looking like when you look back at that, because and people will bring it up. So I'm sure you're kind of preparing yourself for that.
Starting point is 00:51:03 How do you do you not even explain it, but like, how do you look back on that? What are your comments on it now so far removed from it? It's a regret. It's a regret, but not in the way that people would think, because that's a song that I actually didn't write. Those are not my words. I was on tour. Polo wanted me to do a remix to Turn to Me On. He had produced the record and I wasn't because I was on tour with Lil Wayne. I wasn't able to like lay anything down. He had been on me for a couple weeks about we got it. We need to do a remix. Okay, so I take off. It wasn't happening quick enough for him. I take off.
Starting point is 00:51:35 We fly in and he had another writer in our camp at the time. He had her write this, but I come into the studio and he plays me this verse and I'm like, automatically I'm like, I'm not saying that. That was my position. And that- But you knew it was Shane when you heard it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:55 But I didn't know really who it was about, but I mean, one could guess. It just was like, I'm an athlete, but I'm a finesse player. I'm not a nasty player. I'm not a nasty player. I'm not a dirty player. I don't even look at things like that. But we disagree there, Polo and I, because he believes in kind of the shock jock mentality. He believes in kind of playing dirty.
Starting point is 00:52:15 So I tried to find him on it and I began writing my own. That's what I did with my time there, but I wanna be careful with the word I used. It was quite forceful. In an executive artist way? Yeah, in an executive artist way only. Involving others and kind of threatening my career in a sense, in a real sense. Like you're not coming because my album wasn't out yet. So it was like, you're not coming out if you don't do this. The mistake that I made was not continuing to fight, but I was in tears. I was crying. I was adamant that I did not want to do that.
Starting point is 00:52:46 You were actually signed to Polo. I was signed to Polo and Timbaland. Correct. Yep. In a joint venture at Interscope Records. And I was young. I was super young. I felt I had no power. I felt I had no choice. But I did record mine, my version, which had nothing like that in it. It was on subject. The song is about men. And it leaked like days after I did it, but he promised me that wouldn't happen. So it leaked. And that was that. And I protected him. I protected the girl that wrote it who went on to become famous. I protected everyone in the story. So I had to eat that. I had to eat
Starting point is 00:53:22 that. And I am still eating it to this day. Cause I'm getting asked about that 15, however many years, 16, 17 years later. It's like I've worn the Scarlet letter really. I'm sorry, but when you answer it once, like give people an actual answer, I think that makes it go over. They can't ask again.
Starting point is 00:53:38 I was gonna say is, I think this is the first time I've heard this story. I have before, but yeah, maybe you guys is a, a beautiful platform, a big one. And maybe hopefully this is the last time I need heard this story. I have before, but yeah, maybe you guys is a beautiful platform, a big one. And maybe hopefully this is the last time I need to talk about that. But that is definitely a regret of not fighting even stronger. But again, when your career is on the line and they make it that be the way that you perceive the situation, not perceive, but it was pretty clear.
Starting point is 00:54:02 But when you're that young, you're just kind of like, maybe they know better than me. Right. Well, I never felt like they were right. I never felt like they were right. But because my authenticity said the entire time, this can't be the only way to become like I was already doing well. And in my eyes, although it gained the popularity and the recognition, the song, OK, we had a lot of spins.
Starting point is 00:54:25 But from that moment on, I was like, this ain't even my path anymore. What did Timbaland say? I think he just went because they were partners. I think he just went along, but I didn't, I don't remember that we involved him or that he was involved at all because he hadn't produced that record. But I wonder now, I would love to ask him like, what did you think about that? What I do know is he went on to work with B and J and tour with them and so did Polo.
Starting point is 00:54:48 And I'm sitting there like, wow. But again, I was trying to keep peace, also not wanting to put my career, they were still my bosses. I didn't want to put my career further into detriment. So I just didn't want to step in the anymore though. So I didn't want to hold no magazine of with her on that I just was like shook
Starting point is 00:55:07 So whenever anybody brought it up probably the last time we were here like, please don't bring up Beyonce It was probably that kind of environment cuz I was shook. I was scared. I was not of her like I love her I think she's incredible. She's one of the greatest artists of all time. I'm a fan have always been that's never been in question for me But now I just it's a name. I can't say it's it question for me, but now I just it's a name I can't say it's it's a magazine. I can't hold it's a conversation I don't want to have publicly just because I don't want to piss anybody off I don't want to make things even more weird than they already were. I just wanted it to go away I wanted it to go away. I wanted it off my scarlet letter
Starting point is 00:55:40 You know what I mean? I wanted to clean myself up and just have the career that I wanted to have but but I didn't know how to do that. I didn't know cleaning it up would mean that. It just felt like a messier situation. What did your team say when the backlash happened? Did they just step away and say, you are your own now, or did they support? That's what it felt like. That's what the f*** it felt like.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Everyone went on to normalcy, and I'm the only one left. I'm being crucified. I'm being murdered. And I would say, Carrie the human was looking at Carrie Hilsen the artist like, you deserve that. You should have fought harder. I understood it. I got it.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Give yourself grace though. Well, it's tough to do. I've never felt like shooting anyone else down for their greatness made me greater. So I just felt like that was such an ungraceful mistake to make or to be forced to do and to not stand Up for myself. That was the shame that I wore was like I should have fought harder should have fought harder I should have fought hard. I should never have done it. I should never have recorded that I should have outed them well before now I should have you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:56:38 And I still am protecting the writer because I feel like like she might have been doing what was she was told to do I hope that. Have you spoken to Beyonce or run into her because the industry is small? It is. We ran into each other at a, was it BET Awards? And she introduced herself. She was... Hi, I'm Bob Pipman, Chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia.
Starting point is 00:56:57 I'm excited to introduce a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. I'm having conversations with some interesting folks across a wide range of industries to hear how they reach the top of their fields and the lessons they learned along the way that everyone can use. I'll be joined by innovative leaders
Starting point is 00:57:15 like chairman and CEO of Health Beauty, Tarang Amin. The way I approach risk is constantly try things and actually make it okay to fail. I'm sitting down with legendary singer-songwriter and philanthropist, Jules. I wanted a way to do something that I loved for the rest of my life. We're also hearing how leaders brought their businesses out of unprecedented times, like Stéphane Boncel, CEO of Moderna. It becomes a human decision to decide to throw by the window your business strategy and to
Starting point is 00:57:45 do what you think is the right thing for the world. Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math, and the ever important creative spark, the magic. Listen to Math and Magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Dr. Joy here. You may know me from Therapy for Black Girls, where we're celebrating 400 episodes of the podcast.
Starting point is 00:58:09 That's a whole lot of girl me too moments. For years, we've had deep, thoughtful, and inspiring conversations about black women's mental health. And now we're celebrating this milestone in a big way. In this special episode, Peloton Yogi, Chelsea Jackson Roberts shares how yoga has taught her to stay grounded and present while balancing motherhood and self-care. I can't control my
Starting point is 00:58:31 partner. I can't control my child. I can't control anyone outside the way that I govern myself in this world. And the celebration doesn't stop there. We'll continue this milestone with Dr. Lauren Mims, who joins me to discuss the powerful, yet sometimes challenging transition from girlhood to womanhood for Black fans. Together, we explore how we navigate this transformative journey with strength and grace. Black girlhood is giggling, it's sisterhood, but it is also, I think, focusing on learning how to cope with really difficult things that are happening. With insights like these, this 400th episode celebration is one for the books.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey kids, it's me, Kevin Smith. And it's me, Harley Quinn Smith. That's my daughter, man, who my wife has always said is just a beardless, d***less version of me. And that's the name of our podcast, Beardless, D***less Me. I'm the old one.
Starting point is 00:59:30 I'm the young one. And every week we try to make each other laugh really hard. Sounds innocent, doesn't it? A lot of cussing, a lot of bad language. It's for adults only. Or listen to it with your kid. Could be a family show. We're not quite sure.
Starting point is 00:59:41 We're still figuring it out. It's a work in progress. Listen to Beardless, D***less Me on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here? How goes lower?
Starting point is 00:59:54 From Blumhouse TV, iHeart podcasts and Ember 20 comes an all new fictional comedy podcast series. Join the flighty Damien Hirst as he unravels the mystery of his vanished boyfriend. And Santi was gone. I've been spending all my time looking for answers about what happened to Santi. And what's the way to find a missing person? Sleep with everyone he knew, obviously.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Hmm, pillow talk. The most unwelcome window into the human psyche. Follow our out of his element hero as he engages in a series of ill-conceived investigative hookups. Mama always used to say, God gave me gumption in place of a gag reflex. And as I was about to learn, no amount of showering can wash your hands of a bad hookup. Now take a big whiff, my brah. Listen to The Hookup on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
Starting point is 01:00:47 I didn't see her coming, but she came and her hand was out and she introduced, she was like, hi, I'm B. Or she may have said her whole name, but it was a summer award show by the trailers. So backstage area. And she had introduced herself. And I felt like, you know, she was, that was a little bit of like, you know. I see you. Well, I hope, I hoped it was that. I've told her all the time, I've seen Beyonce. I mean, I've only been around her a few times, but I've seen her walk up to people and say,
Starting point is 01:01:14 hi, I'm Beyonce. Okay, I thought it was G. No, no, no, she did that to me in a club. One time I met her and then one time at another radio station, she comes to me and I'm Beyonce. I knew that she was checking you, but. Yes, no, I do, I thought it was G. I thought it was checking you. That's dope. But that is her. No I do.
Starting point is 01:01:26 I thought it was G. I thought it was real G. I was like, I like that. I like that. Why didn't you try to have a conversation? We just went in the place. I hoped to always have that. B, if you're out there, I love you. I would love to do that. I would love to clear that up.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Because like I said, I'm a fan. There's utmost respect for who she is as a songwriter, as a performer, as a woman, as a mom. Like so much respect for her. All right. Well, let's a performer, as a woman, as a mom, like so much respect for her. All right, well, let's get into a Keri Hilsen mini mix. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody.
Starting point is 01:01:51 It's DJ, Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God, Laura Roosa's here as well. We're still kicking in with Keri Hilsen, her album. We Need To Talk comes out April 18th. Lauren. If Polo, like they came back and said, hey, let's today, I don't know if they try to have a conversation, like we're in different spaces. To me? Yeah, to you.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Would you or you that conversation you'd be down to have today? I think the conversation needs to be to y'all. That's I felt unprotected. I felt like abandoned. I think the conversation is to the public. I've forgiven him. He's actually even has records on this album. I see I work with each other.
Starting point is 01:02:23 We have worked. I can be around like I'm a really forgiving person. And again, I took full accountability all this time. I just wore it. I ate it, I wore it, I lived it. But before y'all worked, did you say we needed to talk? No, we were talking the entire time. Like I never, I'm not a spiteful individual.
Starting point is 01:02:40 I don't harbor ill. I would, I have said many times how I felt. You know what I mean? The whole while he to this day,'s just the definition of gaslighting. I don't understand the working relationship then. Because hearing you talk about him, it doesn't seem like someone you would want to continuously put yourself around. Well, he can never force me to do anything I don't believe in again. That's what I know about me. So I can be around someone and know that I'm in control of me now.
Starting point is 01:03:05 You know what I mean? You'll never make the same exact mistake twice. I will never let that man coerce me to do anything ever again. It is what it is. But I will keep him at a certain distance in certain decisions. How do you feel when you hear him say that?
Starting point is 01:03:18 He's a great producer. He ain't gonna like it. He's not gonna like it. But like. It's the truth. It is my truth. And it's more important for me to be honest and truthful and authentic now. Honestly, if that lifts part of the burden for fans and for myself, I guess today it
Starting point is 01:03:35 had to be said, you know? Do you feel secure? Like, do you feel protected now? Yeah, because I got me. I do. And also, this man right here, Mr. Jones, he's been with me my entire ride from album one at some point. Yeah, it's been that long and he is literally my protector. I've never seen an artist manager dynamic quite like this, where I know no matter, even
Starting point is 01:04:04 if you're, even if you were trying to get me to do something that is against my better judgment, it ain't even gonna get past him. It's not even gonna get to me. Because he saw all that. He saw me pay for everything. He saw me, he was with me.
Starting point is 01:04:15 You know what I mean? I'm sure he felt some of, even as a manager, he probably felt some of the same feelings I felt about his own career, which is a thing I'm just realizing. Like, yeah, he probably had some embarrassment you know but we went through it all together and here we are still here. Was it really I mean I know personally you had it things going on but was the industry really that bad like was the beehive and all that was that real like when they were coming
Starting point is 01:04:37 at you was that had anything to do with you taking the step back that you took? Uh yeah that was the other side of it so So it was a heartbreak in that. Yeah. That's what I was saying in the beginning of our interview. Yes, it was that. It was like me wearing the mistakes. But it wasn't necessarily, OK, no CDs were ever thrown at me. That would have been a totally different story, because it would have gone very differently.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Which means CDs thrown at you, remember? Yeah, that was a rumor that they said that they threw Beyonce CDs at me on the street or something, wherever they said that happened. That had never happened. It was online. It was like the, what did you call it? Online jumping? Jumping troll. Online troll. Yes. It was like no matter what I posted, the response was B's. No matter
Starting point is 01:05:15 what I said, no matter what the caption was, no matter how beautiful I look, no matter what, how, why I'm on this carpet, no matter what, it was like just everywhere, you know, online. And interviews as well, like it was like I couldn't do anything on my own without her name being mentioned, which yeah, it just, I couldn't live it down. I just felt like I could, everywhere I went, they're like, so Carrie, and I would just freeze.
Starting point is 01:05:39 I would just freeze. That's natural. And I'm like, I don't wanna step in it. I don't wanna say anything wrong. I don't want to say anything wrong. I don't want to say anything else wrong. Like, I don't want to step in it. So I'm just going to be quiet. And eventually it came to, I don't even want to show up anymore.
Starting point is 01:05:52 I don't even want to go anywhere. I don't want to do anything. I just don't want to do this anymore. And was there industry backlash? Like did people start fronting on you because they wanted to be in her good graces? Probably. It's fair to suggest that. Probably some of the people that I had been working with
Starting point is 01:06:08 took that position, but I wouldn't know. But I would say it's likely. The only person you should be protecting now is you. That's right. Right, right, that's all I know. That's when you owe nothing to nobody. Right, that part, that part. And that's how I feel.
Starting point is 01:06:23 The only thing I owe anybody is me. And to have the fresh start that I've been fighting for now. That's what I owe myself. Well, let's get into a joint off the album. Let's get back to the music. What do you want to hear off the album? I think all we can play is Bae. All right, so let's get into it right now.
Starting point is 01:06:38 You want to be talking about somebody? You want to be talking about somebody? No! No. There you go. It's off the album. And you got a bit, you got the temptation story that comes out April 26th on Lifetime. Yes, fame.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Yes, April 26th, and my album drops the 18th. So like a week before that. And the, tell them about the series on YouTube. I really want people to go watch this because it will help you with the music and it's a background to you. Yes, and it kind of sums up the conversation we've had this morning and how I feel coming
Starting point is 01:07:07 back in. So that I think is a great preface to hearing the music. So yes, on my YouTube page at Carrie Hilsen, you'll see a series called Me Versus Me, six episodes. They're shorts. And the album is actually released in three parts. That's what I thought you were going to say, but it's released in three parts parts. I've been going so long, I was like, I owe people more than just one EP or one album. So I'm releasing basically three, three series of work, three series, three bodies of work inside of one album. Oh, I thought you was getting your Michael Jackson
Starting point is 01:07:36 Illmatic on with the nine songs. No. Okay, okay. Yeah, so you'll see them grayed out as they're there, but it's all one album, all called We Need to Talk. And right now you're getting the love portion. So we're starting there. I'm telling a story.
Starting point is 01:07:50 So what's after the love portion? It's really neat the way I decided to do this. What's after the love portion? Drama. After drama? Redemption. Ooh, okay. So you feel like there's unfinished business
Starting point is 01:07:58 in music for you basically? I do. All right. I'm happy for you. Yeah, cause I just like that you got it mapped out. You know how you want to reintroduce yourself to this new generation. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:08:10 That's dope. It feels like you're getting through all of the things that you probably had to take a step away to better understand what was happening, to better articulate how you felt in it. Yes. It feels like that. Yeah, you're really wise.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Oh, girl, thank you. You're really wise. She had me crying yesterday. Asking good thought-provoking questions. You gotta put some context in that. Yeah, no, good crying. Oh girl, thank you. You're really wise. She had me crying yesterday, asking good, Thoughtful, poking questions. Yeah, no, good crying. Crying isn't bad. You made me feel, which is not that normal to have to think that deeply.
Starting point is 01:08:35 So I appreciate when I get to. So, and thank y'all, cause it's the same here. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for coming, cause I know that had to be difficult. The first time you, cause I seen it in your face, like you didn't know what to expect You look at him, especially the short guy over there like Carrie always been good
Starting point is 01:08:51 People don't be are scary though. See me. Yes, cuz you're such a wild card. You're like a landmine. I don't do cocaine anymore He never did it cocaine Was in my head I was like oh. That would explain it. Now we can give him some grace. Right I'm like oh. You had an issue. You had a problem.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Oh my goodness. Kari Hilson is the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody it's DJ NV Jess Hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. You can check out that full interview on our YouTube Breakfast Club AM YouTube page. Now let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren be coming with straight face.
Starting point is 01:09:37 She gets in from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything. She be having the latest on it. The latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit of everything. But what's the latest? On The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Talk to me. All right, y'all. So there is some more with Tony Busby in Jay-Z. So remember Jay-Z sued Tony Busby and his firm for defamation after the lawsuit was dropped with the woman who they claimed Who claimed that Jay-Z and Diddy raped her when she was 13 years old back in 2000 who lied about Jay-Z Exactly, and it was all it was the case was dismissed. It cannot be brought up again Now when it dropped who were like well what behind the scenes went down for Busby to completely back off Now Busby is coming out and basically saying that he wants Jay-Z's defamation lawsuit dismissed. So what he is, what Busby is
Starting point is 01:10:31 claiming is that him and Jay-Z's legal team struck a deal behind the scenes and that Jay-Z didn't hold up his part. But Jay-Z's attorney, Spiro, is saying that that is completely BS. That did not happen. So Busby is claiming that Jay-Z used his fame to bully this, you know, this woman into dropping the case and that there was, I guess, like emails exchanged between Busby's attorney for the firm and for himself and between Jay-Z's attorney and in those emails they had agreed to certain things. One of the things that they had agreed to was that some of the sanctions or the penalties
Starting point is 01:11:05 or consequences that Jay-Z's team was asking for Busby's team to have to like, you know, endure because of certain things that they found were wrong, certain ways that he filed things and you know, just things like that for them, for them to back up off of that. And he's saying that because they didn't honor parts of this, because remember that the audio clip that we had heard where the woman was on audio saying Jay-Z had nothing to do with this? Yeah. They're saying that when Jay-Z's team continued to further investigate Busby and his firm and send investigators to do things like that audio, it violated this agreement. So now he's saying you know what this whole
Starting point is 01:11:38 case should be dismissed because we only dropped our case in the beginning because of this agreement. Now Spiro who... I don't give it up, Busby. Spiro who is Jay-Z's- Jesus Christ. Spiro who is Jay-Z's attorney says that that is completely BS. He says that it's a total lie. What actually happened was Busby brought false claims,
Starting point is 01:11:58 lost badly and was forced to dismiss quickly, end of story. Now, Spiro did acknowledge in court documents that he filed that attorney Busby's attorney did reach out to him about dismissing the case with Jay and wanted to strike a deal. But Spiro says that he made it clear that Jay Z would never settle the lawsuit or pay any money to resolve it given the fact that the accusations were completely false. Spiro also does acknowledge that they requested for him to stop investigating this woman, doing things like sending investigators and just looking into more details. It sounds to me like Busby's trying to save his reputation at this point.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Yeah, sounds like it. Yeah, he's been trying to save his reputation on this from the beginning. Remember he was sitting back and between this and all of this the simple suits he had to drop for Diddy. Yes. It's like, yo, you remember petitions in shambles. Yeah. You like an ambulance chasing lawyer to me. His bureau is saying who is Jay-Z's attorney. He's saying the fact that they thought that we said that we were going to back off investigating this when this was false and you're claiming this against our client was completely false. That never happened. But there was again, the was dismissed without I'm sorry with prejudice meaning it cannot be brought up again. But right now in court that's the back and forth
Starting point is 01:13:12 Busby's I go I feel like this should be tossed out. I love the fact that Hov is taking this all away. I love this because hopefully to stop attorneys from doing this because you never know who's gonna fight and Jay got the money to fight and Jay got the money to protect his reputation I'm glad to see this. They should investigate Busby more. How many cases is Busby taking like this? These ambulance you know chasing cases and ruin somebody's whole life and reputation. Reputation that's right. I mean it's weird they're still not backing down like he's still claiming in this she was standing on her claims and she was
Starting point is 01:13:41 willing to go forward but she was bullied I think they're trying to not think I know that that audio we heard they're trying to explain what we heard on that audio. Basically since she was bullied and they're saying certain things. So we'll be following this because the judge is supposed to make a decision on what's going to happen. I believe the judge was asking to hear the audio again before they made a decision. Like the full audio of how she was asked the questions. Boo! We don't believe you. You need more people. Okay, move on. All right, well that was the latest with Lauren.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Charlamagne, who you giving that donkey to? Man, four after the hour, there's a 350 pound teacher named Jason Rogers who needs to come to the front of the congregation. We would like to have a word with all of him, okay? What does he teach? I don't know. I know it ain't Jim.
Starting point is 01:14:20 It doesn't sound like his head. All right, we'll get to it next. It's the Breakfast Club, good morning. Wake up. Wake up. You. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake up. Wake up. You're locked into the Breakfast Club. Your execution on the Donkey of the Day is something to behold. We'll get a read.
Starting point is 01:14:33 He gave me Donkey of the Day, and I deserve it. You can even know it. You need to tell them. I am. You have the voice. Tell them. Tell them. It's time for Donkey of the Day.
Starting point is 01:14:43 It's a read, but you're so good at it. It's gotta be a fake ass Charlemagne. You only want Charlemagne. This is what you gotta say. This could be funny. Damn, Charlemagne. When did you see the donkey of the day tonight? It's recording.
Starting point is 01:14:57 You ready? For people that don't know, Jess Solaris is actually doing a recording for Charlemagne's Donkey of the Day today. Because when you work at I Heart, you gotta have multiple jobs. Alright, Donkey Today for Wednesday April 9th goes to a 350 pound teacher named Jason Rogers.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Now I am not here to fat shame anyone this morning. I wouldn't even be bringing this man's weight into this donkey if it wasn't pertinent to the story. In fact, in an effort not to fat shame Jason Rogers, I will say nice things like, I believe Jason Rogers has a six pack. It's just hidden underneath a protective layer of fat. Okay, the same way women have like protective hairstyles
Starting point is 01:15:37 like cornrows and wigs, right Jess? And twist. Sometimes people get fat on purpose to protect the incredible physique they have underneath all that. Fat people can unlock that hidden character in that video game anytime they want to. I am not here to fat shame anyone this morning. Fat people are in shape. Round. Round is a shape. Anyway, Jason Rodgers was charged with malicious punishment of a child after he allegedly stepped on three students backs during a lockdown drill.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Let's go to KBTX CBS 3 for the report please. An Underwood Minnesota teacher is facing charges after deputies were called to an area hospital for a report of an assault. Jason Rogers is charged with one count of malicious punishment of a child and is on administrative leave from the school district. Deputies were called to Lake Region Hospital for a reported assault at Underwood School. A sixth grader says that he was laying on his stomach during a lockdown drill when Rogers stepped on his back with both feet.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Court records indicate that Rogers weighs more than 350 pounds and Rogers admitted to stepping on three students who weren't cooperating during the drill He is scheduled to be in court on April 8th What I feel like I tell y'all this once a week But please don't become a teacher if you truly don't care about kids Jason, you know, you 350 pounds What the hell you doing stepping on those kids for you told police that you were frustrated They weren't taking the lockdown drill seriously. Well, there was other ways to show them why they should take this seriously. What if those kids were frustrated you weren't taking your health seriously? What if they told you that
Starting point is 01:17:13 you should be teaching history because just like history you are heavy and full of layers? Not to mention during a lockdown drill they didn't need you to lock the door because your big ass was already blocking the entrance. They don't even need a damn barricade. All we need you to do is stand in front of the door and create a human wall with built-in snack storage. Okay, I am not fat shaming by the way. I'm just making observations. All right, Jason stepped on these students because he was frustrated with them.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Well, what if they bought a scale for you to step on every day because they frustrated with your big body itself? Huh? Not to mention a lot of the kids were complaining that Mr. Rogers assigned homework like he ordered fast food in bulk and with no shame. Mr. Rogers. Fat Mr. Rogers. Fat Mr. Rogers is crazy. Fat Mr. Rogers sat down to tie his shoes and it was considered a two part episode. Fat Mr. Rogers' trolley didn't go to the land of make believe and went to the land of all you can eat. There is not a cardigan in America that could fit
Starting point is 01:18:08 Fat Mr. Rogers. Fat Mr. Rogers wouldn't wear a cardigan. He would wear a weighted blanket with buttons. Fat Mr. Rogers cardigans weren't hand-knit. They were engineered by SpaceX and they had the ability to withstand body heat and snack crumbs, but I am not fat shaming. I am just making observations about a situation. See what's sad is kids trust in adults. Okay, you are a teacher. These kids' parents drop them off every day to be in your care. So when I hear one of the children say,
Starting point is 01:18:37 I did not know why Mr. Rogers did this because Mr. Rogers didn't say anything about it. Didn't even try to correct him. He just sitting there all fat and frustrated. Okay, portly and perturbed, dumping and disturbed. Didn't even tell the kids what the issue was. And then if the kid described it, just stepped on him like he was a stepping stool.
Starting point is 01:18:58 I bet money Jason Rogers thinks more of the stepping stool than he does those kids. Because I don't think Jason Rogers would risk putting that 350 pounds of weight on a stepping stool. Okay, he's 350 pounds. This man is terrified of the word steps. Ask his Fitbit, all right? When the class heard the child yell out,
Starting point is 01:19:16 they thought that Mr. Rogers had broke the child's back, man. It's not funny, man. This is what the bullet report says! It's not funny. Jesus. Won't you bullet report says! That's not funny. Jesus! Won't you be my neighbor my ass? Especially not on a plane. This is sad. I can't trust you to properly teach my kids Jason Rogers. Lunchtime can't be you and the students most favorite time of the day.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Pop-tarts, pop-quizzes. What do you enjoy more Mr. Rogers? Listen, the moral of the story is a quote from John C. Maxwell. Students don't care how much you know until they know how much you care. I repeat, students don't care how much you know until they know how much you care. When students feel cared for, they are more likely to be engaged in the learning process and motivated to succeed. It's that simple. And one thing's for sure, two things for certain,
Starting point is 01:20:07 I know Jason wasn't no gym teacher. Please give Jason Rogers the sweet sounds of the Hamilton's. Oh now you are the donkey of the day. You are the donkeykey of the day he hawn. How old were these kids? I think I said sixth grade. Sixth grade. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:35 So that's the whole classroom really if you think about it. Take at least, let me see, I would say at least five kids to be 350 in sixth grade. Can kids be 100 pounds in sixth grade? Maybe, right? Maybe in the 80, 90, close to 100? So would you be like 12, 13 years old? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:52 He might be a math teacher though. How strong are those kids? A lot of addition. Backs to uphold that 350 pounds. They weren't demanding, they said the kid yelled out in pain and traumatized the whole class. The class thought the kid's back was broke. What are you talking about? I couldn't a 350-pound person stepping on my back
Starting point is 01:21:08 could you imagine Mac one of our producers staying on your back you do realize that's the whole donkey today was about I'm just saying but I think my back was really the fact that he shouldn't have been 35 you shouldn't be standing on no kid back I thought Mac was walking in. I got a little nervous. Alright. Well thank you for that donkey today sir. And Jess, thank you for holding the camera. I like it.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Jess is trying out other jobs just in case around here. Just in case what? Just in case. Jess is like, come go on a lava get tonight. Don't worry about me. Alright. When we come back Larry Murrow will be joining us. He's the owner of Murrow Hospitality Group. He owns several restaurants in Louisiana, New Orleans area, a bunch of clubs, hide and
Starting point is 01:21:56 seek tree house, Murrow Steak. One of the greatest entrepreneurs in the country. Spicy Mango and we're going to talk to him next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning the breakfast club Nvjess hilarious Charlemagne the guy we are the breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building friend to the room Larry Morrow, welcome back sir. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for having me. How you doing? I'm doing well, man How's everything with you? Everything's good, man. Just just working just working Now Larry a good brother man when I landed in New Orleans and literally everybody and their mama was like you gotta go to one of
Starting point is 01:22:30 Larry's spots you gotta go one of Larry's spots you gotta go one of Larry's spots and guess what? Larry opening up another spot Spicy mango spicy mango. Yep a New Orleans Caribbean fusion. So tell us about it be some so spicy mango. It's a new spot I'm opening up right there and It's called French mystery. So Frenchman is like bourbon, but more Local live music versus strip clubs and bars like live music restaurants, and we were opening right at the forefront of it So the new concept I'm opening up New Orleans Caribbean fusion giving like different vibes You know be like one-on-one in New Orleans
Starting point is 01:23:03 You know we have Caribbean spots, giving like different concepts and different vibes like if you want like more of a New Orleans Southern cuisine you go to Morro's if you want Asian fusion you go to Sun Chung you want a steakhouse vibe different ambiance. Morro's steakhouse is amazing. Yeah totally different vibe you go to Morro's steak but if you want like more brunch outdoor type of vibe you go to Monday. Monday is a totally different you know spot than all of them so when people ask me which one I like the best it's kind of hard to say because they're all different so it all offer different vibes so if they were more similar maybe I can say which one I like the best but you know depending on what I want. Which one are you at the
Starting point is 01:23:56 most? At one point I was at Monday the most because that's what an office you know is but right now I'm at Spicy Mango I'm at Maro's because we just you know last year we bought the building and we renovating so we upstairs had Airbnb's gutted it made it a kitchen bar dining private dining so the expansion we went from holding 85 people to holding maybe you know close to 200. Well you have a real Jamaicans in there sucking their teeth at you when people come in right before you're like close. We got a lot of people so it it's actually one of our head chefs, she's Jamaican. So yeah, we definitely gonna have the real authentic Caribbean vibes and fusion.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Now also, you do this with your mom and your grandmother. Yes. So break that down. How was working with your mom and your grandma? Because sometimes family business is not the best thing in the world. Man, working with your mom and grandma. And I love your mom and grandma., because sometimes family business is not the best thing in the world. Man, working with your mom. And I love your mom and grandma, I love them to death.
Starting point is 01:24:47 They always come out the kitchen, show love, say hello, so I love them. Man, it's crazy, because working with my mom is definitely, early on, we'll meet up at work and they still think I'm a son, but mommy, business partner, so. It was a total different experience, because we had to learn to work with each other.
Starting point is 01:25:03 We never worked with each other in that capacity. So, it was challenging. You know, it was times where we were just, you know, it was tough for us to get along just because with mom and son and, you know, partners and stuff. So it was tough. And me and my grandma, you know, I opened up that spot and I named it after her. It was like my, me, you know, paying homage to just her journey, just everything she's done, you know, coming from Korea to America
Starting point is 01:25:26 and building that foundation for us to build on. It was kind of me giving her flowers while she can still smell them. So that's where Sun Chung come from. And I opened that up and it's been cool. Of course she wants things to be the way that she envisioned. And sometimes it's not really the way that you can operate a business that does as much value as we do. More like a mom and pop, yeah, you know, it's not really the way that you can operate a business that does
Starting point is 01:25:45 as much value as we do. More like a mom and pop, yeah, you can, but you know, we're more of like... I function in. Yeah, you know, more of like a corporate setup now. I have HR, have, you know, marketing directors, just the whole team, you know, close to 500 employees. You got some nice thuds working in Mondays too. I wanted to say that they came out the kitchen to see me some good studs they did some nice handsome and pretty still you know
Starting point is 01:26:08 that's why you like doing the Mondays all the time y'all I haven't been to Mondays yet yo Mondays look the studs popping they gonna come out the kitchen like you like your food I was like yeah no that's funny that's funny so why they don't have like stud muffins? that'd be dope ooooh listen when they hear this they they're going to be.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Yes, I love them. The studs already love Jess. Jess is a stud magnet. I already know. I'm a stud magnet. When you and your mom bump heads, how do you shift it from business to personal? You bump heads, but then you still got to go back to being your mom's son.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Well, so of course it would affect personal, but it was more so when we first started to partner up because we had to figure out how to operate with each other. She wanted her way, I wanted my way, and unfortunately you can't have it both ways sometimes. Sometimes you gotta really decide on which way we're going. So, it's just us learning, but it did affect personal at times
Starting point is 01:27:00 because if we're not talking at work, we're not talking at home, or it may affect our personal. And it's a challenge, but you gotta be patient and you gotta just really learn how to operate with family in amongst of just operating a business. Was it Super Bowl weekend, everything you thought it was gonna be? Yeah, man. Super Bowl was, my whole thing was to just, when I produce events, it's not just about
Starting point is 01:27:24 making money. It's about showing up, showing up for the New Orleans as a whole and, you know, just when people come to New Orleans, like as y'all know, I like to show that Southern hospitality. So I wanted to roll it out and, you know, get it popping. So that's what I did. You know, we had Travis Scott, Cardi B, Meek, Gilly Wallow, Glowrilla, what was it, Glowrilla, Lotto, 50. 50 ended up not showing up because he had something happening, he didn't come into town. Sexy Red, Kai's Tonight and everybody was there. It was crazy. All that different spots. Oh, I saw the party.
Starting point is 01:27:53 So I had three different venues. I own a spot called Hide and Seek, which is a club, a spot called Triage, which is a club, and I rented out this venue called Empire. I had some good friends of my own, Alonzo and Joey. So I did that and the whole goal was to just really, last time we had an opportunity like this was All Star in 2017. So when something like this happens,
Starting point is 01:28:14 I feel like it's a time to not just make money, but to really just have a great time and show everybody how we do it in New Orleans. I was gonna ask, you know, during COVID, a lot of restaurants at first did bad and then they picked back up, but then when the world opened back up, a lot of restaurants closed.
Starting point is 01:28:30 We seen it with P.F. Chang's, they had problems, and Applebee's, T.J.F. Friday's, Red Lobster even. So how is the restaurant business as far as you, and how are you sustaining? Well, it was one of those things where COVID kinda slowed everybody down. And me coming out of COVID, I was so motivated to do something, figure it out, because I felt like it slowed everything down that I was doing.
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Starting point is 01:33:00 I had my rules open, I opened up three houses and I got a taste for it. I'm like, I'm making this fast money. I want to reinvest it. So had Maros open and I opened up Treehouse and I got a taste for it. I'm like, I'm making this fast money. I wanted to reinvest it. So a lot of spots that were calling about to rent, they weren't available. But at one point, everybody started calling me. And during COVID, man, I committed to like four locations, five locations, because I opened up, after Treehouse opened up, five more locations.
Starting point is 01:33:21 And it kind of really just made me level up. COVID made everybody feel like they had to do something to do more and so you know now Spicy Mango I'm finally getting to a point where we're about to open up due to just me not really understanding the industry and how much time and money it takes but it was a grind and I'm glad I did it it taught me a lot but to commit to so much and not really have a full understanding of what's all required you know it's like you're really rolling the dice so I'm blessed to just be at this point
Starting point is 01:33:51 now where we're about to open up and you know this is a seven location and we've been blessed to see a lot of success in the industry. Alright we got more with Larry Morrow when we come back don't move it's the Breakfast Club good morning. Morning everybody it's DJ NV Jessalari Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking with Larry Morrow. Morrow is the owner of Morrow Hospitality, if you're ever in Louisiana.
Starting point is 01:34:11 I'm sure you stopped at one of his spots, Morrow Steak, Sun Chung, Hide and Seek, Tree House, and he has a new restaurant, Spicy Mango. Charlamagne? What's the ultimate goal for you? Ultimate goal is of course to inspire the next generation of black restaurateurs, black hospitality because in this industry, it's not many people that look like us that I can go to and get advice from. I have a lot of friends who I talk to, have great successful businesses and that's been
Starting point is 01:34:39 great mentors to me but it's not many people that I can talk to, so I think definitely inspiring the next generation of black, culinary black hospitality, but also growing something that, like just something for my family. It's bigger than just the money, it's the legacy. It's about building something that can take care of me and my family, not just this generation, but the next one.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Somebody said to me, somebody, I forgot who I was talking to, it was like, yeah, we might connect with Moro's to franchise, and I'm like, I don't know if I would want that. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not franchising. Yeah, I'm like, why would you leave New Orleans? No, well, no, so I'm not franchising, right? Got a lot of people who call about franchising or just even companies that want to invest into what we're doing, the hospitality group, but right now it's like, you know, we're doubling
Starting point is 01:35:22 down. Actually had a conversation yesterday with a good friend who invested into a lot of different ventures and extremely successful and he was just like man it's time to start taking you know it's time to start raising money right you're doing extremely well but imagine how big you can get if you do. So I'm conflicted on what we're going to do but the goal is to you know become you know one of the largest black hospitality groups in the country and not limited to. We just want to be able to inspire people through what we're doing.
Starting point is 01:35:50 I never knew I was going to be in this industry but to be in it and to do something with my moms and to have my family involved is a feeling that's indescribable. Is Atlanta and Houston next? Houston. I think we spend the most time in Houston. Yeah, you know, I've been living in Houston for like three and a half years, you know. I got some homies out there who've kind of been a tremendous help, like A-Life. Those some guys in the industry, you know, hospitality industry that I really admire
Starting point is 01:36:15 and respect what they do, you know, because they've done it even prior to me getting into it, you know. I will see what they're doing and that's one of the people that I can say that Junior Martin, Big J, that I was really inspired by, somebody who looked like me, you know. Is the food going to taste the same though, in Houston? It is, you know, I'm like, I'll be there, my mama be there and it's a 45 minute flight, right?
Starting point is 01:36:34 You know, we're real, you know, it's all about just the structure that you have, like the chefs and just the system that you have. So, you know, I'm anal about everything, man. So I'm sure that, you know, we're on point everything man. So I'm sure that you know, we're on point with that When is spicy mango open? So spicy mango is about about 30 to 45 days out So sometime next month in May, we'll be opening soft won't really do a grand opening product into June with our closer to essence So, you know, we're gonna take our time. Yeah, just to kind of ease into it not really like, you know broadcast it that we're open but just open soft and Get the kinks out just so that when we do fully open, you know, we're prepared
Starting point is 01:37:11 Yeah, you know Larry you always are a very you know, you're the consummate businessman always so professional What happened with you in the food reviewer? I can't believe you asked me that. What happened? Well, there was a video of Larry interacting with a few reviewer and the full reviewer tried to, well, he tried to take his phone. No, he tried to take your phone. Man, I don't remember what happened. I don't know what happened.
Starting point is 01:37:34 I just know Larry ended up throwing hands. No, no, no. Larry, you was throwing hands on him? You didn't know, man. Damn. But, but now, honestly, man, just being a black man and successful, young, in a city where, like New Orleans, I think in any city,
Starting point is 01:37:52 you just run into issues at times, you know, like I'm outside majority, like more than 99% of the people and when you are, you know, things happen, you know what I mean, but. You need security though, like. Yeah. I see you floating around the city by yourself, you need a buffer. No, I have security, but you know, it's like, I see you floating around the city by yourself. You need a buffer.
Starting point is 01:38:05 No, I have security, but you know, it's like, I like to be alone a lot of times. That's the issue. I like to be alone a lot of times. So, even though I'm like this introvert, extrovert to where I've been around so many people for so long that I enjoy being alone. So, it's kind of like what I've morphed into over the years just because of it's so much in this industry But now I just learned like, you know, just just sometimes things happen and there's never no hard feelings But you know after the day, you know when it come to anything that is mine, I'm a definitely protected You know by by any means so there's some time unfortunate situations happen and ain't never
Starting point is 01:38:40 Intentional but you know just happen it's interesting you say that you've been living in Houston the last few years. I thought you were still living in New Orleans. No, but I'm never really there. I'm never really there just because once I committed I moved out there during Ida and that's when a storm hit New Orleans in 2021. The first year that everything really opened up and I thought I was going to be out there more but when I committed to all these restaurants like I couldn't go to Houston and spend all the time I wanted out there because I didn't know that it was going to require all this
Starting point is 01:39:08 time and energy and so you know I ended up just keeping it just so I won't get so comfortable in New Orleans and decide not to take that next step you know so because I'm really looking forward to that next step in that next chapter to where we expand and I think you know I've done a great job of just doing what we're doing in New Orleans, but now it's time to just really spread those wings. All right, well we appreciate you for joining us. If you're in New Orleans. Hold on one thing,
Starting point is 01:39:31 because people in the comments were saying that you needed to get out of New Orleans because the hate is so real for successful people. Do you feel that way? Man, yeah, and my OG told me he had a conversation yesterday, right, Kanaan, right, and he was just saying that being a black man ain't easy, man, just no matter where you are, just being successful in black, wherever you are,
Starting point is 01:39:47 is different because like I had a conversation with a friend of mine as well. He looked different than me, successful, extremely wealthy. And I explained to him, I said, you won't, you don't have the same problems that I have. And I may not have the same problems you have, but you know, being black and successful in any city, especially a smaller city where it's not As big as in New York, right? I mean you can sometimes be a target or just stand out So, you know, it's it's tough, but you know, that's just what come with it You know, it's not something it made me realize that years and years ago I used to you know, I become more protective about what's mine and not so open about everything
Starting point is 01:40:23 You know So because you start to just realize that man it just ain't the best just for everybody know everything about what's mine and not so open about everything. Because you start to just realize that, man, it just ain't the best just for everybody to know everything about what you got going on, what's happening. I'm already outside a lot, you know what I mean? Just because I got my businesses and stuff. So it's tough, but it is what it is.
Starting point is 01:40:37 It come with it. Somebody gotta do it. Somebody gotta do it. All right, well, if you're in New Orleans, definitely check out Tell them the lineup of all the restaurants. So come to New Orleans, check out tell them the lineup of all the restaurants. So Coming to New Orleans check out Maros, Monday, Sun Chung, Maros Steak Spicy Mango is opening up in about 30 to 45 days in New Orleans, Caribbean Fusion
Starting point is 01:40:53 And of course you gotta come to Treehouse, you gotta come to Treehouse, you gotta come to Hide and Seek You know so far seven locations. We'll maybe open up more soon Just really depend on just really depend on a few different things. But yeah, definitely plan on moving to Houston. I love Morro State, man. What Jess said is true, because it got the ambiance, but then it got just the dope ass summer food. Like, Larry set me and my wife up because it was our anniversary that weekend.
Starting point is 01:41:17 We had a ball. Thank you very much, man. I appreciate y'all. Thank y'all. If you want nightlife, that's one of the safest places to go to. You check out Treehouse on Mondays. Like you said If you want that life That's this is this one of the safest places to go to you check out treehouse on Mondays It's like say you never know who's in that I've been in the times with Nas was in the back cut in corner chilling I've been a time with Fab was in their cardio. It doesn't matter, but appreciate you for joining us, bro
Starting point is 01:41:35 I appreciate y'all. Thank you. It's Larry Morrow. It's the breakfast club. Good morning the breakfast club Baby girl go get your tickets for the third annual Black Effect podcast festival happening Saturday, April 26th in Atlanta, Georgia. We 17 days away. That's right. 17 days away from the third annual Black Effect podcast festival at Pullman Yards in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:41:56 Tankin' Jade Valentine will be on that stage doing the R&B Money podcast. Sarah Jake Roberts will be on that stage doing her Women of All podcast. So go get your tickets at black effect.com No, no, no, I can't actually got it I think I gotta be in Texas Oh I got my panel got switched to I'm doing a creators panel now. Are you going our panels in the air moderating a panel? This is my first black effect festival
Starting point is 01:42:19 Congratulations, Lolo. Thank you girls. Well, let's get's the latest? On the Breakfast Club. Talk to me. Who must be Lauren? What? Oh my God. Oh never mind. Rapper Slim Thug's apartment in Houston has been burglarized. The thieves came in, they took jewelry, cash and more. He actually went online and talked about it.
Starting point is 01:43:00 Slim Thug did. Let's take a listen. I tried to shoot to go see the coos and shit. Didn't want to miss the experience broke in my spot petty thieves hit a good lick man they got me from a jury I was slipping we working on it I was trying to do a little quick turn around go to the game and come back and I got caught in traffic trying to get back I'm in the penthouse How the f*** did they get in the penthouse is what I want to know. The penthouse, you only can have a far from my floor I'm gonna get this insurance money on and buy me a car. I ain't buying no drinks, you know
Starting point is 01:43:35 You know, I can't see how they didn't stand out in the crowd When you look at these white hands, I can't see how the building missed this I don't have some the building missed this. I don't have some mic, Mickey Miles, there's some inside sh** right here. Definitely some inside stuff if you live in a penthouse. I felt like that too, because how you get past security up all them floors, and he said in the video that they have
Starting point is 01:43:56 or the images that they have, you could, he said they wouldn't have blended with the crowd that live in the building where he lives at. I know exactly what he talking about. He said, they YNs. As soon as he said that, I knew exactly what type what he talking about. He said, they're right in. As soon as he said that, I knew exactly what type he was talking about. They said they got him good.
Starting point is 01:44:09 They said he got the good stuff too. He was, you know, he chuck, you know, it was one of those lads that you pissed off. Like, they got the good stuff too. Yeah, they got me. Yeah, damn. They all going to jail, by the way. You said they are?
Starting point is 01:44:19 Yes, if you broke into a penthouse, you on video, you absolutely going to jail. I'm sure he was ski masked up, you know, where you only see the eyes. If he was in a ski mask, you definitely look, you absolutely going to jail. I'm sure he was ski-masked up, you know, where you only see the eyes. If he was in a ski-mask, you definitely look like he was standing out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, now that you say that, yeah. I doubt he had a ski-mask on, though.
Starting point is 01:44:32 Yeah, he said that they have footage, so it's video, he said they were black dudes, he said that he actually was at the game in San Antonio on Monday night, and he was like, it's just crazy how you can't be out nowhere, because then people see you out, and then they know to go in your spot. Or somebody knew he wasn't going to be there, clearly. Yeah, yep, and it was like, it's just crazy how you can't be out nowhere because then people see you out and then they, you know what I mean, they know to go in your spot. So.
Starting point is 01:44:46 Well, somebody knew he wasn't going to be there clearly. Yeah. Yep. It was a three hour drive and he talked about getting caught in the traffic on his way back home. So it gave him more time. So yes, that story is developing. No arrests have been made as of now, but police do say that they are investigating.
Starting point is 01:45:00 So yeah. Lock them up. Go get their ass put. Throw them under the jail. I don't like people that do stuff like that. Did you say the part where he said? So yeah lock him up Go get their ass put the whole month to the jail Did you say all that do stuff like that? You get to the point we say he didn't have insurance They said the shirt the amount of the value of all the stuff that he had on the jury
Starting point is 01:45:13 He said because I'm like ten thousand a month So he just didn't get his you didn't have insurance on all this stuff So it's just so wacky break into somebody house people don't work hard for the you know Items that they have and that's what you go do be a petty thief Lock the ass up. I'm with you. Well in other news Jonathan majors and worked hard for the items that they have and that's what you go do, be a petty thief, lock they ass up. I'm with you. Well, in other news, Jonathan Majors,
Starting point is 01:45:29 he was on the Generation Iron podcast, he was talking about the new movie that he has, Magazine Dreams. Now this interview for Context is from April 2nd, but I thought that the conversation was good and I wanted to bring it in this room because we had actually kinda talked to him about this a bit but it wasn't direct.
Starting point is 01:45:44 For the first time that I've heard. He is acknowledging the fact that he knows that even though this performance was good, ain't no way he's winning the Oscar. Let's take a listen. As an actor, do you think about, you know, well, what else can I get with this movie, right? Meaning that like awards and things like that, is that, is that in your head or do you kind of like not even thinking about that?
Starting point is 01:46:02 I don't really think about it. Why? I just got other things to think about. And I've got people on my team that can think about those things if they present themselves. The s*** I went through, the way that hit the press, the way I was dragged, the things I've things I've had to deal with and heal from and all that. That's completely, that's, it's a wrap. You know what I mean? Like, I appreciate the hustle. I appreciate the love, but I'm a part of the academy and I can tell you right now
Starting point is 01:46:25 It's not gonna happen. I love hearing people talk about it. I won't Jaypa blah. Yeah, cuz guess what it's out there now I don't talk too hard about it. But well, I love that for the picture. Absolutely, but I don't need it It's gonna give me another job someplace. Yeah, but maybe not And you know what you actually did place yeah but maybe not. You know what you actually did how was it going on? Yeah you actually did tell him he would not win what is it an Emmy for that? I forget what we were. You did you did tell him that. But it was because afterwards. I said all's fair I said everything is fair. If it was a fair world. You know when I asked her The world ain't fair exactly the letdown with Lauren
Starting point is 01:47:18 No, because I was really sitting here after our interview with him and was just thinking like man these things happen Some things, you know the the charges and all that were different than how they originally came out And you know There's that whole conversation, but yeah what he did have to stand up and say hey I went and got you know help for or I'm taking accountability for he did and still nobody's gonna care Nobody's gonna care that this is good Nobody's gonna care about that and it's so messed up because if you mess up you mess up They don't care how big how small depending on who you are Sustained it stays on you forever, which is messed up people's eyes Yeah
Starting point is 01:47:43 He doesn't have the complexion for the protection. Cause Roman Polanski won an Oscar, and he has been wanted in the US for statutory rape of a 13 year old girl since 1978. Oh. And he won an Oscar. I'll do you one better. Russell Brand, who just actually,
Starting point is 01:47:57 probably like eight, nine days ago, was being charged with rape and sexual assault, is now gonna be speaking at Florida's new college. He'll talk about cancel culture. So he's gonna speak on censorship and free speech while being interviewed by new college president, Russell Richard Quirk-Quirkane during a speak engagement schedule for Saturday, April 12th.
Starting point is 01:48:19 So he's been charged, but he's still able to speak at a college? I don't have a problem with that. Most colleges would've deaded him. And I don't do that. Jonathan Majors would at a college Most colleges would have dead in an hour Majors would have never most colleges would have died after being charged like that most college though most colleges So you have been convicted? Cuz Jonathan majors was the Charges came out the the videos came out and things begin to drop before he ever went to court and we actually knew
Starting point is 01:48:42 What was absolutely once again Jonathan don't have the complexion for the protection. Yeah, I'll do that one even better. Donald Trump is the president. What are we talking about? Once again, Jonathan don't have the complexion for the protection. You name it, all we do is name white people. That's right. Then we gotta wrap up.
Starting point is 01:48:57 Which proves your point, Charlie, right? He doesn't have the complexion for the protection. Well, I was supposed to get to- And that's why I wear a wig sometimes. What? The complexion is to change the complexion. Yeah, that don't change the complexion, it protection. Well, I was supposed to get to- And that's why I wear a wig sometimes. What? The complexion is still your complexion. Yeah, that don't change the complexion, it just change your-
Starting point is 01:49:09 He's an idiot. Believe, oh, I'm confused. Where we going? That just changes your gender, Shaila. All right. Wait, yeah. Well, what's wrong with that? That is the latest.
Starting point is 01:49:19 I said that, I'm trying to present it. Okay. Y'all, in wrapping up, I wanna say we were supposed to get to Kenya Moore and, you know, Indy Cohen on his radio show talking about the photos that she showed on the episode and likening them to a revenge porn and Kenya being upset about that, but we couldn't get to it here. So tune into the podcast, the latest with Lauren LaRosa.
Starting point is 01:49:41 Anywhere you listen to your podcast, I broke down the background on today's episode, but next episode now will be the Andy Cohen conversation if that was right or wrong for him to say and do okay All right now up next we got the people's choice mix salute to Alicia Keys today marks the one-year anniversary of her play being on Broadway Make sure you go get your they do something special tonight I was supposed to go but I can't make it. So salute to Tank, salute to Alicia Keys. But today is the one year anniversary. So you know how difficult it is to be on Broadway and to stay on Broadway. So make sure y'all go and support.
Starting point is 01:50:14 And for the mix, we're going to start off with some Alicia Keys records because of that. Again, congratulations to Alicia Keys and the whole staff over there. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. You're checking out the Breakfast Club. Morning everybody. It's DJ, Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:50:30 Reminding you guys next Tuesday, my second book comes out, Real Life, Real Family. The first book, Real Life, Real Love, was a national bestseller, and Guy is gonna be joining us next Tuesday. I'm sure that's gonna be interesting. Absolutely. Are you gonna talk about, you know, life after the orgasms in this book?
Starting point is 01:50:46 You're an idiot. No. No, because in the first book, Enzy talks about how, no you wrote it in the first book, last forever. In the first book Enzy talks about how he didn't make his wife orgasm for 10 years. This is triggering. So is there a light at the end of the tunnel? I'm traumatized, yes there's light at the end of the tunnel. Okay. Yes, so yes we will discuss our six kids in that book. Just because she had the kids don't mean she had an orgasm. Oh right. It's not about that. What? What is it about?
Starting point is 01:51:13 She's having orgasms now, sir. Okay. That was when we were 16 years old. Oh, but Gail will be here next week? Yes. So we can talk about it all? Oh my goodness. You better not ask that woman about it.
Starting point is 01:51:22 It's in the book. As a journalist. As a journalist. Okay. They said you're not a journalist sir. I have to ask. Alright, well, salute to Larry Moro for joining us this morning and also Kerry Hilsa for stopping through. I'm not even, I don't think y'all realize how good Larry Moro's restaurants are.
Starting point is 01:51:38 Amazing. Whether it's the original Moro's, we can go down there and get that good old fashioned New Orleans food. Or Moro's Steakhouse. I was actually in New Orleans on my our Morroes Steakhouse. I was actually in New Orleans on my wife's, me and my wife's anniversary last year and I went to Morroes Steakhouse. Amazing amazing spot man. Yes it is.
Starting point is 01:51:53 And as soon as you touch down in New Orleans people are going to be saying you, you going to one of Larry's spots right? Yep. You going to one of Larry's spots? He's really the unofficial man in New Orleans to be honest with you. Right and if you've been there you've probably already been in one of his restaurants and didn't even know it was serious. Yep so salute to Larry and salute to Kerry Hilsen.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Alright when we come back we got the positive note, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody it's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club. It's time to get up out of here. Charlamagne you got a positive note? I do but I want to tell people first of all go get your tickets for the third annual Black Effect podcast festival.
Starting point is 01:52:24 We are 17 days away. We will be in Atlanta at Pullman Yards. Some of your favorite podcasts are gonna be on that stage. Sarah Jakes, Roberts, Carrie Champion, Tankin J. Valentine with the R&B Money Podcast, just to name a few. The Fool Truck's gonna be there at a Black Effect Marketplace. Everything you love about the Black Effect Podcast Festival.
Starting point is 01:52:42 Nissan's gonna have their Pitch Your Podcast activation. So if you love podcasting, coach ya. If you wanna know more about the Black Effect Podcast Festival, Nissan's gonna have their Pitcher Podcast activation. So if you love podcasting, coacha, if you wanna know more about the business of podcasting, or if you just wanna come enjoy a day of great podcasts, that's where you need to be the third annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. So go to blackeffect.com slash podcast festival to get your tickets, okay?
Starting point is 01:53:00 Okay. Also, I will be in Orlando, Florida this weekend, y'all. I have two shows on Friday at the Funny Bone and two shows on Saturday at the funny bone get your tickets at funny bone calm or just hilarious official calm and I will be doing meet-and-greet after the late show on Friday and After the late show on Saturday can't wait to see y'all Orlando and studs Don't be doing crazy stuff like bringing your vibrators for just a sign. That's just ridiculous Who did that? Who did you even think about doing it?
Starting point is 01:53:27 That never happened? No, nobody ever bought a vibrator. Desi told me that somebody bought a vibrator. Why you always lying on my people's? Desi never told you that? Who you talking about, Desi Banks? Cause you're not talking about my brother, Desi Alexander. Desi told me that the Studs be bringing dildos
Starting point is 01:53:41 for you to sign. No, they bring me all, they bring me weed, they bring me all kinds of stuff, but no stud has ever bought me any. Now they will. Dildo or nothing. Yeah, that's why he said it, he is a clown and I'm giving them all to you.
Starting point is 01:53:53 Yeah, clown. Don't bring that back on the plane, that happened to me one time, remember that time you had that dildo on the plane? Yeah, the dildo on the plane. Yes you did. Yes you did. Angela, you put a dildo in your bag.
Starting point is 01:54:04 No, it was the other way around. You put a dildo on Angela plane? Yes you did. Yes you did. Angela Ye put a dildo in your bag. No, it was the other way around. You put a dildo on Angela Ye bag? Nah, that's crazy. Why would you touch a dildo, Evie? You ain't gonna never wanna ask me doing stuff like that. I'm never gonna ask you. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:54:15 That's crazy. This is when we first met. This is why Angela Ye left. Now we're getting real started. Oh, yo! Now we did. Oh my God. Is that what she told you just now?
Starting point is 01:54:22 No. When you got. You know what? You know what? Oh my God. Listen, what she told you, Jess? No. When you got to it. You know what? You know what? Oh my God. The positive note is this, do the best you can until you know better. Then when you know better, do better.
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