The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Beyoncé Returns To Met Gala After 10 Years, Taraji Calls Out Celebs Who Attend + Isaiah Rashad Rashad, Zuri Hall & Shan’t Das Interview

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

Today on The Breakfast Club, Isaiah Rashad Talks 'It's Been Awful,' M.O.M, Sobriety & Career Journeys, Sexuality; Sex-Tape Leak. And Zuri Hall On Covering The Met Gala, Finding Her Voice In Media.... Shanti Das Talks ‘Silence The Shame’ Day, Navigating Grief, The Importance Of Funding Mental Health Initiatives. Plus, Charlamagne Gives Donkey of The Day To Domino's Delivery Driver Who Hits Customer With Car For Not Leaving Him A Tip. Listen for more! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:20 Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, how y' y'allel. How y'all feel out there. I feel blessed black and how. Faye but happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning. Good morning. How you feeling greenie? You're all green? I feel good. It feels so good outside. I love warm weather. Yeah, it's beautiful outside. Did you go out last night? I did not. I actually fell asleep and it was that was all she wrote for me. That was it? Yes. Yeah. Did you at least watched the Met Gala? Of course I did. I watched a full Met Gala and worked on some things and yeah, we won't have a good show. Did you feel bad that you didn't get invited? I didn't not feel bad. I didn't feel bad because I know if I'm not there this year,
Starting point is 00:03:06 If it's meant to be next year, it will be, you know what I mean? I'm walking into where I'm supposed to be gracefully. But I think we got enough that we'll be able to talk about it. And I got to go see Devil Words Prada yesterday. Okay. How was that? It was amazing. I love that movie.
Starting point is 00:03:18 We talked about it on the podcast. You want to be in the fashion industry. So bad, one way or another. You can't get into the Met Galli. You're going to get into the Dev Watswomen Prada. Not really, if you can't get into the Met Gallo. Actually, first of all, right? I thought about you last night.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I thought about you last night. Because they had like a little fan cage where all the fans were screaming. I was like, Lauren could have just. Laugh the hell out of you out of seeing you out there. Why would I be out there screaming? Because you could have been out there with the face. Like, you could have been with the mic. It ain't never that serious.
Starting point is 00:03:40 No. No. Not at all. Envy loved. Both of y'all love to play with me, but envy's starting it off this morning. I'm sorry. It's never that serious. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I will say this, though. What? I could give a damn. But you know, I do like about the Matt Gala? But you know, I do like about the Met Gala, all the money they raised for that damn because I'd be sitting there thinking like, damn, how can we raise that kind of money for, like, the International African American Museum, you know, and Charleston, South Carolina,
Starting point is 00:04:01 and all the other museums that are preserving black history. $41 million, I think they said they're raised. Take their method. Get a lot of the big black celebrities to come. You know they're not going to come? You know, good and damn well. They barely come to the Beatty War.
Starting point is 00:04:13 You know, when they come to supporting their own, you know, it's not the same level of validation. They always think white ice is coat. But you know, it's a lot of the designers that are paying for those tables. So you've got like the couture fashion houses and then they invite the big celebrities. And the designers, I know probably don't see the value
Starting point is 00:04:30 and the African American museums all over the country. That's what I'm simply saying. No, not to nobody who was there. I'm just simply saying, $41 million is a lot of money. That's what I'd be thinking about. I'm like, damn, they raised $41 million for that museum.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I'm thinking about the business, the economics of it. Yeah, I know. You know, Halloween costumes they be wearing. Yeah, I'm sure we'll break that down. We'll find out who was on the red carpet, who was there, whose outfit was the best, who the outfit wasn't the best, and we'll talk about all that.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Like, even next Thursday, I'm being honored at the Food Bank, you know, here in New York City, they have a gala. I know they're not about to raise those. $41 million. No. Wow. And they should.
Starting point is 00:05:03 That's my point. Because they're in New York. All these celebrities are here. But that's my point. But not even all the celebrities are here because so many people fly in just for that gala. I'm sure most of the people are not from New York that went to the Met Gala last night. But we'll break down to Meg Gala. And listen, the Metropolitan Museum of Art is cool.
Starting point is 00:05:19 But you know, you can't eat no paintings. Right. People can't eat no paintings. That's all I'm saying. And their history is not under attack the way ours is. That's all I'm saying. Okay, we got to help, we got to support our own Because I would love to know how much of that $41 million came from black people
Starting point is 00:05:35 Let's do a gala, let's do a gala And let's get people to come on in and raise some money Sure He said sure, all right You know who does a good job of that too, though, the Reform Alliance When they do their thing they're doing Atlantic City every year Oh, the big, what is the call?
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah, they raise a lot of money on criminal justice in the home With Jay and Mike Rubin With Jay and Mike Rubin. Absolutely, they do, absolutely, they do All right It's called the Reform Gals I think. I don't know what it's called.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Yeah. But yeah, they do that in Atlantic City. Yeah, they raise a lot of money as well. All right, well, let's get the show cracking. Isaiah Rashad will be joining us. Man, he's got a new album called It's Been Awful. And that title is very fitting because he's had a rough five years, you know. Yeah, he had a while five years.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Personally, because, you know, he's a dope artist. But five years ago, somebody leaked a sex tape at him. And it was him with a bunch of guys. A bunch of guys. I think there was a few guys on there, right? I just remember him and one person. I don't know. Maybe I made that.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I know there were guys. There may be multiple. I haven't seen the tape in a while. I just know it was him and a person of the... I said it was like a bunch of guys on the tape, but he was participating. Okay, all right. All right. Now, also, Shanti Dyes will be joining us.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Today is Silence to Shame Day. Yes, it is. So we'll be talking to her as well. Silence to Shame is an amazing organization. They are dispelling the negative stigma surrounding mental health. And they talk to you about... Well, she talks to you, Shanti talks to you about why it's important to understand your mental health for your overall well. That's right.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And also, Zuri Hall will be joining. us. Of course, she was on the red carpet last night. So she's going to be breaking down all the fits, all the behind the scenes, footage, and everything that happened at the Met Gala last night. You had to get somebody that was at the Met Gala. Shut up. She's always been invited for years. Wow. She's always working in the red carpet. So, you know, salute to... Maybe you could be her assistant next year.
Starting point is 00:07:13 That's not a knock at me. That's a knock at how they don't value this outlet. That's not true. It's all about the outlet. You've never been invited. It's all about the outlet. TMZ would never be invited when you were in a TMZ would never be invited to something like the Meggala. TMZ would never, ever, ever, ever. Like, they would never allow a TMZ camera inside of a me at Gallagher, period.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I think it's you. Well, no. No, it's not me. No. It's not your first time. All right. Girls, girls, girls, girls, girls. It's annoying.
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Starting point is 00:07:46 It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Shalameen, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's getting some front page news. Now, Mimi's having some technical difficulties. She'll be checking in in a second, but let's start off with some quick.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Now, last night, Philly. What happened last night, Philly? The Knicks beat the 76s last night. 137 to 98. Wow. When I say they squash, crush, it was embarrassing. I wanted more of a fight, Philly. Come on, Philly.
Starting point is 00:08:12 You say that now until they tie the series up and then they up to one. Now, you're like, man, the Knicks don't be knowing, man. The Jailin'Brunson, man. Like, shut up. Why don't you just enjoy the win? I am enjoying the win. I want more of a fight. No, you don't.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Yes, I did. You want the Knicks to sweep. The Philadelphia. Yes, absolutely. I'd say I wanted to be, we wanted to lose. Okay. More of a fight mean that they're going to go to game seven. How about that?
Starting point is 00:08:33 I don't want that much of a fight. I don't want that much of a fight. That was you talking about. Last night, the Timberwolves beat the Spurs, 104-102. The Timberwolves beat the Spurs? Yes. That went to sleep. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Yes. Did he that was play? That was at the buzzer. At the buzzer. Wow. Yeah, I fell asleep for that one, too. I ain't allowed. I fell asleep for the fourth quarter Knicks.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Maybe it was up so much. I fell asleep. now also in a new interview with the new york of barak obama is getting candid about life after the white house he says the pressure to speak out on today's political climate is creating tension at home while also revealing frustration behind the scenes including concerns about double standards in politics now you you dove into this interview correct uh yeah a bit of it so there's two separate things that he's talking about so uh he's talking about the pressures that people put on him because he is obama to react and to speak on everything um and the the pressure of like what else could you do because people believe that he should be doing more. So he says in order for him, Obama says in order for him to function like John Stewart, at least once a week just going off and responding to everything that happens, it would be, it would kind of devalue his voice and his opinion. He says the media environment is so difficult that people don't even know all the stuff that I'm doing right now. And I think when they do see
Starting point is 00:09:45 me, they sense that all as well. Why isn't he doing that every day instead of just doing midterm election. So he's talking about when he goes and he speaks out during different rallies and stuff like that or during various campaigns. Now he is talking about the fact that when you talk about frustrations at home, he says that his political schedule is still frustrating Michelle Obama.
Starting point is 00:10:05 She wants Obama to slow down, but politics keep pulling him back. So he's telling the New Yorker that he's having a demanding schedule right now and Michelle wants to see her husband easing up, Ms. Michelle Obama, excuse me, wants to see her husband easing up and spending more time
Starting point is 00:10:21 with her enjoying what remains of their lives, which has been a big conversation for them. Every time she talks about the White House, she talks about how much their lives were impacted and how much she couldn't wait until it's over. So it seems like that's still becoming an issue for them right now. Do we ask more for President Obama because he's our first black president? Did we ask for all the presidents and all the presidents have this schedule? Like did Clinton have the same schedule? You know, we know Biden didn't, but you know, did they all have those same schedule? First of all, the pressure President Obama is because we are watching our democracy
Starting point is 00:10:54 be threatened in ways we've never seen our democracy threatened before. Nothing that is coming from the Trump administration is normal. So we don't expect normalcy from anyone who has held that position before. I know presidents aren't supposed to speak on other presidents, but I think it's important for all the presidents who are still alive. They'll let the American people know what's going on is not normal. That's why, you know, it might feel like it's a little bit more pressure for President Obama.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And he's the only president that seems like he's got a pulse. That's still alive. It's just true, right? Like, he's the only one that seems like he's still here with us. Obama says he feels like if he tried to combat every outrageous utterance in various policy from the Trump White House, he would quickly diminish his impact. That was the quote.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Why is he looking at this from a perception standpoint? You either do what's right or you're done. You either say what's right or you don't. But also when you give your life to politics and you finally come out that office and you want to live a little, you want to see your kids a little, you want to live life, doesn't he get that right too as well? Fall back and just say I'm going to live my life and chill with my family for a little bit? Sure. But if that's the case, then everybody should do that then. Nobody should care about what's going on.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Like, absolutely. Like anybody with a voice, anybody with a platform, nobody should care what's going on. If everybody could just kick their feet up and relax and enjoy their life and enjoy their money, then everybody should be able to do that. Like you can't put that responsibility on nobody. You know what I mean? Nobody should have to speak up then. All right. Well, that is.
Starting point is 00:12:20 And why are they comparing himself to John Stewart? I think they were just talking about it's never been president. I think they were just talking about because they also get into him in the media landscape. So I think they were talking about the expectation of everyone to always hear him respond to something when it happens or just say certain things more than the people just think he pops up when we need him for elections. Well, the reality is your party needs a leader because your party doesn't have what president of all. Obama. So you were the last actual real leader of the party. That's just the reality of the situation.
Starting point is 00:12:48 It's not our fault Democrats didn't build a bitch. Wait. You know what the hell I said. Stop being stupid. Oh. Okay. All right. Well, that is front page news. All right. Like I said, Mimi was having some technical difficulties. We'll get it back on for the next hour. I see her side partner. Yeah, she's back. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-105.1. If you need the vent, call us up right now. 800-585105.1 is the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Ray, Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlemagne. Lizzie, what up? Are we live? This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool. I've got an outdoor pool.
Starting point is 00:13:25 We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. We can get on the phone right now. He'll tell you what it is. We live? Hello, who's this? Yeah, good morning breakfast club. It's J.A. from Indy. J.A. What's up, J.A.? Nothing much. Hey, real quick. Good morning, crew. Lauren London. I just missed you.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I'm in Italy. I was out there a week before you. That's Laura Rosa? Who the hell is Lauren London? We don't have a Lauren London that works here. Lauren does not work here. Good morning. That's her nickname. What's up?
Starting point is 00:13:48 Why? So, hey, I need your help. What's up? What's up? I need to help. What's up? I need to help you, Andy. I'm coming to New York for a day trip.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I'm flying in in the morning. I'm going to fly out that night. I got one thing on my docket, which is a 1230 Yankee game. I need some more ideas, things to do. I couldn't get in the car bone. So what else can I do for a day? Well, you're coming. You got a 1230 game, so the game will be over at 3.30.
Starting point is 00:14:10 What time's your flight out? Yep. at 9 o'clock that night You could go to Brooklyn Chapp House Brooklyn Chops is great I love Brooklyn Shop House And I'll tell you what else Mario Carbone
Starting point is 00:14:20 He got other restaurants in New York Other than Carbone You got the ZZ Club I like the Lopster Club T-R-E S-S-Y He can't get his Zeezy Club Is his membership only You might get in the Lox Club
Starting point is 00:14:29 But Brooklyn Shop House is fine I love Brooklyn Shop House One in Times Square and the one in the downtown Yep So y'all want me to fly in and get fat What else y'all got for me That I can be active though Oh you could also go cuts and slixt and sli
Starting point is 00:14:41 If you're into like just pizza that's outside the box, like the oxtail pizza, the, I mean, you name it. I mean, you can go there too, and that's right there. If you're flying into JFK, that's right near JFK. So that'd be close to you. Okay. What else is there that you should definitely check out? He said he in and out? And he said he ending out that same day.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I'm coming in town just for the game. I ain't ever been to a Yankee game. So I'm just coming in and flying and coming right back out. The only thing is the game is in the Bronx. So that's a little far from the city. With traffic, it'll take your hour to get to the city during that time, hour and a half. So that's why I would say, just play to go eat and then get back on that flight. So you ain't going to have that much time because traffic in the city during that time is rush hour.
Starting point is 00:15:18 But you're going to need time to poop if you go to any of them places. I don't want you to know that. All right. Well, I appreciate y'all. I let I know how I did once I get back. And next time you go for a longer time, you know, we can set out a better schedule. But you're going to be in for a little time. You don't want to miss your flight back.
Starting point is 00:15:32 And the way the traffic is in the city, you're going to give yourself a little extra time, brother. All right. I appreciate time. We like that. The funniest thing in the world is when people ask. me what they do in New York. I don't go out in New York. I have no idea. Okay, I couldn't tell you what the hell. You go to dinner, you go to Broadway place, but he's not there
Starting point is 00:15:45 for that time. That's true. I mean, yeah. There's so many things you can do. But that's it. I go to Broadway's too late. He's leaving late. I go eat every now and then. I don't be out in the city. Yeah, I mean, that's pretty much it, unless you just want to walk through Central Park. But, all right, get it off your chest. 8-585-105. What do you walk to Central Park? A lot of people walk through Central Park. My mom loves going to Central Park.
Starting point is 00:16:05 My mom loves going to Central Park. You probably can't walk in Central Park, but I think I walked through Central Park one time for a shoot I did with Apple. Of your whole time living in New York? Yes. The hell would I be. We're just walking through. Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:16:18 And I'll say, never mind. Never mind. Yeah, I was his old. You could tell you're old. Get it off your chest. Call us up right now as the breakfast club. Good morning. This is your time to get it off your chest.
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Starting point is 00:16:42 Hello, who's this? Hey, Angie, this is Audrey. How are you? What's up, Audrey? How are you feeling? I'm feeling pretty good. I'm feeling pretty good. I just want to send out some love and light to my family.
Starting point is 00:16:56 We've suffered a tragic loss over the last two weeks, so I'm visiting from North Carolina, came to support my Latson family. So I just want to let all my family know from Jersey to South Carolina that I love y'all, and we got a love on each other while we hear. Absolutely. Sending you and your family healing energy, man. Absolutely. Thank you, Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Hey, Charlotte. Hey, Jasmine. Congratulations on the book. Well, Jess, just not here, but her book, tells you after the parent is absolutely available everywhere you buy books now. Yeah, I'm going to have to top that because I need that advice. Oh, you having some co-parenting issues?
Starting point is 00:17:28 Yeah, sort of kind of, but, yeah, but I still want to read it just to get some more, you know, some help. We feel you. Yeah. Thank you for calling. But thank you. Y'all have a great one. You too now.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Hello, who's this? This is Tamika. I'm calling from Charlotte, North Carolina. He's Tamika. How are you? I'm good. How are you guys this morning? Bless Black and Holly favorite.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Get it off your chest, Tamika. So I'm calling in reference to Jess's book. I just ordered, I just finished listening to Jess' book. First of all, Jess, Jess, your book was amazing. We love to hear that. I love the book. I ordered the book thinking I was going to be laughing through the whole. There were some funny points to the book, but the book was really an eye-opener.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Unfortunately, I was married for like 27 years. I was recently divorced in the last five years, and I'm having a difficult time co-parent. I was hoping that my co-parent situation would be better than what it is, given that we are people of a certain age. And it's just not, you know what I mean? and I was listening to some of the things that Jess was saying and identifying with the relationship with her and her relationship with wrong.
Starting point is 00:18:46 And I was like, why is this so familiar? And it just is, even in our large age, you know what I mean? And in my new relationship, just the things that I deal with my 17-year-old. And I'm like, wow, these things are so familiar. So even in my large age, I can still learn from even my younger sisters. So I want to commend just her growth in the things that she's teaching. So we're listening to you, sis.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Man, that's incredible. And I want to thank her for things that she's sharing in her book. So shout out to her. That's incredible to hear. I wish she was here so she could actually hear you say that herself. But her book, Tell Death, Do We Parent, is available. everywhere you buy books now courtesy of black privilege publishing have a good one mama yes thank you very much we'll send you the message in all love but you but you know when I when I'm
Starting point is 00:19:43 having conversations with Jess that's the one thing that she's receiving when she's out and about it these book signings you know what I mean and that is that is the impact of books like it's just something about literature that hits people in a different way and you get to show a side of yourself that people may not may not necessarily see so I'm glad she told her story and tell death to we parent absolutely get it off your chest 800 585 5-1. If you need to vent, you can hit us up. Now we've got the latest with Lauren coming up.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yes, we're going to be getting into a little bit of the MetGala things. Charlemagne mentioned the $42 million that was raised. So we're breaking that down. 42? Yeah, so Women's Wear Daily is quoting $42 million, according to one of the executive officers of the gala. And that's a record-breaking number topped last year by some much, some much. So much. So we'll get into that and break it out. Some much.
Starting point is 00:20:31 You want to be a stud so bad. Did you say so much? So much. No. That was the first time ever calling me a stuff. I don't know where that came from, but don't ever do that. You see all them pretty women in them dresses and now you're thinking about munching? That is crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:45 I'm saying it topped that last year's number by so much is what I meant. Yes. All right. Well, we'll get into that next. It's the breakfast. Bell Pure Fiber Internet? It's fast. Like, really fast.
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Starting point is 00:25:27 L.L. Coobeck, talk to me. All righty, also, the Met Gala went down last night here in New York City. The gala as an update report according to Women's Wear Daily raised $400, I'm sorry, $42 million. This is a record-breaking number. Last year, they raised $31 million. That's a lot of chicken, boy. A lot of money. The Met Gala has grown into the largest museum fundraiser in the world.
Starting point is 00:25:53 And the money that they raise, they use this to preserve more than 33,000 objects that represent seven different centuries through fashion and different accessories for women, children, from the 15th century to present day. Now, tickets generally cross $75,000, but designers buy these tables and invite the celebrities. That's why celebrities show up dressed in. certain designers. Now let's get into who was there. So, of course, we talked about Beyonce making her big
Starting point is 00:26:18 return to the carpet after a decade. And Lala, our girl Lala, she was hosting for Vogue. So at the top of the stairs, when she got to the top before you went in the Met Gala, you would speak to Lala. So Beyonce was there. She was on the carpet. We got to see Blue Ivy and JZ as well. And Beyonce
Starting point is 00:26:35 shares some words about her attendance. Let's take a listen. Now, B, it's been 10 years. 10 years. How does it feel being back? It feels surreal because my daughter's here. And Blue looks so beautiful. She looks so beautiful. This is incredible to be able to share it with her. And I think she looks so incredible.
Starting point is 00:26:52 She looks so beautiful. I'm like, we can learn some red carpet tips from Blue. Absolutely. The way she's posing, I'm like she was ready. She was ready. She is ready. Absolutely. So, B, what are you looking forward to most from tonight?
Starting point is 00:27:03 I think it's really just experiencing this through the eyes of Blue and being able to relax. I think for me, I'm wearing Olivier Rousting, who is so good. Someone that's been so loyal to me, and I've done so many incredible iconic looks with him. So it's really about representing him. And celebrating bodies, just celebrating bodies, all the different bodies. Different, juicy, curvy, thin, tall, whatever, just celebrating whoever, whatever God gave you. Yes, so this year's theme was costume art and the dress coat was, fashion is art, but they celebrate different bodies
Starting point is 00:27:41 in the museum setup that they had. Now, Beyonce mentioned Oliver Rustin, who is, who used to be one of the heads over at Ballame, Black designer. And he was, like, one of the first black designers to lead a Couture fashion house, which is a really big deal. But, yeah, we have some photos of the
Starting point is 00:27:57 Carter family on the carpet, Kim Kardashian there as well, too. Siza, Bad Bunny, Cardi B. What was Bad Bunny? So Bad Bunny, he was representing an aged body. He's like 52 years old. So There was a lot of prosthetics and stuff like that as well too. Now, some of the people who were not there, notably,
Starting point is 00:28:15 because they've been their previous years, but also this one person spoke out. Taraji P. Hinton was not there. And she actually was very vocal about the celebrities who chose to show up at the carpet and asks, what the F are we doing? Because people should not be there because Jeff Bezos, it was one of the lead sponsors for the gala. And it was also reported that Zendaya wasn't coming.
Starting point is 00:28:36 She did not show up, even though her stylist and the duo was known to show up together came and people believe too that potentially she may have not shown up because of the whole Jeff Bezos tie in. That's interesting. But you know, that should kind of be consistent all across the board. Like do you stop using Amazon to get your packages? Do you, you know, if you're an actor and actress, do you not. Amazon Prime? No, no, yeah, Amazon Prime, but do you not do movies and stuff for Amazon Studios? Like, I'm just saying, like, it should be consistent all across the board. I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:29:11 And Reverend Al Sharpton was on the carpet, and he was asked by New York One about the fact that... Reverend Al went to the McGillard? Yeah. Okay, Robert. And he was asked by New York One about the fact that he even showed up in the midst of all the protests of sick of listening. I'm here tonight to say that these artists that we need to bring this world back to a level where we all exude what we have inside. What about the Bezos to say it's tears? How do you feel about that?
Starting point is 00:29:34 I think that every year I've come. They've had very wealthy people that supported Maga, and they didn't stop me from coming. They don't have enough money to keep me from talking to the artists. I came to support. We fought for years for diversity. I'm here to support Venus and Beyonce. How do we fight and let our sponsor make us walk away from the people we fought for? And I salute Anna Winter for making them co-chairs despite the controversy.
Starting point is 00:30:02 My fashion sense is the ultimate. intimate African urban flavor, unapologetically. Once again, it's interesting because we know they use black culture to get people to come to the Met. And I understand folks making their stand against Jeff Bezos. But I just wonder, are you consistent with that in all aspects of your life? Like, once again, do you stop using, you know, Amazon to get your packages? Do you stop reading things like The Washington Post? Do you stop watching Amazon Prime?
Starting point is 00:30:30 And if you are an actor or an actress, do you not do movies with Amazon Studio? Right. It should be consistent across the United States. the board in all aspects of your life. Can't just be, you know, performative and grand gambling for the Met Gallagall. But some people pick their battles. They decide I want to do this, but I don't
Starting point is 00:30:44 want to do that, right? Because this will affect my money more, but this one, if I don't go to the gala. Then it's kind of one, you kind of defeats the purpose. I get you saying. Yeah, you make one nuddling void. I get what you're saying. I also think, too, because, you know, those protests against the gala were, like, bubbling
Starting point is 00:31:00 until the night. And I was wondering, specifically with Taraji, and I reached out to try and, like, you know, talk to her to get some audio for us today, but you know, she's working. Why wait until the gala, like that night to do it? Because those protesters have been putting things out and doing things for the last like two months. Maybe Taras has been saying it beforehand and we just haven't heard.
Starting point is 00:31:19 It's a huge night to do it. But that's what I'm saying. I was trying to, you know, respond to you, Charlotte. I was thinking maybe it's you pick and choose your battles where you choose the bigger platform. So if I say, oh, I'm not doing a movie on Amazon unless I talk about it. And even if I do, maybe that's a fast. It would.
Starting point is 00:31:35 If you get offered, if you're an actor and actress and somebody offered, especially somebody like Taraji, and they get offered to do a movie with Amazon Studios and she says, no, I'm not doing it because of Jeff Basso. That would be huge. And we don't know what she maybe has recently turned down behind the scenes or where her plans are moving forward. This was my first time even hearing her be vocal, you know, in the Basso space. But I could be wrong, though. But yeah, she was one of the, you know, people stirring the conversation, you know, and it's her right to do so. Question, before we get up out of here.
Starting point is 00:32:02 So when people go to this Met Gala, are they performances? is there a DJ? Yeah. Is there food? Yeah. Or did they just looking at each other? No, when you go inside the, it's a gala. I'm just asking.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Like, I've never heard like somebody, like somebody performed. It's a gala, yeah. Who performed last night? They're not eating in their outfits. I believe her name was, I believe it was Sidney. And then when they get up the stairs in a crazy-ass outfits, like they can't walk around. Like, people are not handling them the whole time. A lot of people change outfits.
Starting point is 00:32:27 It was Sabrina Carpenter to outperform last night. That's a actress. Sabrina Carpenter performed last night. Beyonce, Venus, Nicole Kidman. who, Beyonce, Venus, Williams, Nicole Kimman, who were co-chairs, they host the gala, there's a bunch of money raised,
Starting point is 00:32:39 you do eat as well, and then people leave and go to the after parties. Beyonce, notably, last night, changed her outfit into another outfit as well, too. So it is a traditional gala. $42 million. That's what people need to keep in mind. This is an event that raises money, right,
Starting point is 00:32:55 for the Metropolitan Museum of Arts. And listen, salute to them. I think it's incredible whenever events like this can raise that type of money. But I really do wish we could, could do that for black history museums and organizations. Okay, if these designers have the money for this, well, all the celebrities, especially black ones,
Starting point is 00:33:11 you need to be using your cultural cachet to make these designers drop a bag on these black history museums. What a statement that would be? Because we know for a fact that Trump administration has terminated federal grants and funding for several black history museums and organizations. Why? Because they say it's a lack of alignment with administration policies and a push against, you know, DEI initiatives.
Starting point is 00:33:33 They've literally withheld are terminated grants to museums that focus on black history, saying they do not serve the interests of the United States. So what a statement it would be if you made these black designers drop some bags on these black museums. As we wrap, I just want to say that the MEP Museum does have things that they do in like collaborative exhibitions. They give loans and partnerships directly on a like a larger scale to HBCU's various black. Are they a black history museum and organization? They're not. But what I'm saying is they have an administration cutting their funding and their grants.
Starting point is 00:34:02 They use. But what I'm saying is they use their platform. He's not saying that all these people that are raising the money, they should also raise money for these other organizations. But why not take it out of their pot and give it to your people? He's just saying that just like these celebrities go to this Metgala. They can go to other organizations and help our own out as well. Especially when the Black History Museums and organizations are actually being attacked
Starting point is 00:34:25 when this administration has literally terminated federal grants and funding for them. He's taken away from the Met Gala, but all the celebrities that attended and all those designers. That's the time. She can't help. She got a tabbed. They're not people that wear these design outfits saying, spend some money on this side too.
Starting point is 00:34:41 I can understand what he's saying. I just think you have people. This is great. Morning everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess Hilarie and Sholomaine the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back in some front page news.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Start off with sports last night. The Knicks beat the 76 is 137-98. The Timberwolves beat the Spurs 104-102. I can't believe. the temper was beat this first. Yeah, that was surprised me. I didn't even know anything else was playing. I thought he was hurt.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Nah, it was a last minute call that he played. But yeah, no, I think it was a game when he shot. I didn't see. I fell asleep. I felt asleep. Like I said, even last night, the next game. After third court, I'm like, all, we got this. Everybody was at the next game.
Starting point is 00:35:16 I caught one of my, like, NYPD sources. They were there. Everybody's at the game. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. What's up, Mimi? We got you back.
Starting point is 00:35:25 We got me back. Good morning. Mee, Lauren. How y'allel main? How y'all doing this morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:35:32 So, okay, so we start this hour. We're going to talk about the Met Gala. So at one point, there was a protester who nearly broke through the barricades, getting close to photographers before being tackled by police and removed from the scene. We know him as Chris Smalls. So Chris Smalls, he was the leader of a well-known labor activist. He started it back in 2020. Amazon, they first fired him when he walked out over.
Starting point is 00:35:59 COVID safety conditions in a Staten Island warehouse. Well, he was the one person that we know so far that was arrested. He was charged with resisting arrest, obstruction, disorderly conduct, blocking a vehicle with a sign, jumping over an NYPD vehicle. But he went on to found the Amazon Labor Union. And in 2022, he helped leaders there make the first successful Amazon Union vote in history or take the first Amazon vote in history. So he was arrested.
Starting point is 00:36:31 There was a lot of protesting going on outside. But the moment comes after this year, even, it faces growing backlash because it was tied to the involvement of billionaire Jeff Bezos and his wife, Lauren Sanchez Bezos. They were serving as honorary chairs. So they were outside, of course, the people had signs and they were really upset about all the corporate power that they said that was going on inside. But that wasn't the only disruption activist. They projected messages across major buildings in Manhattan, including directly onto Bezos, his Manhattan penthouse. It started there, and then it moved to the Chrysler building, the Empire State Building.
Starting point is 00:37:13 And they projected a video testimony of a 72-year-old Amazon worker struggling to make ends meet. Let's listen to some of what she had to say. Yeah, that was heartbreaking. When we struggle from paycheck to paycheck, from wheat to week. to we really angers me because if they're one for every assumption
Starting point is 00:37:34 in every Amazon facility he would have all those zeros behind his name. Shame on you Jeff Basels. The people that need to be being celebrated at the Met Gala are the workers. People like me. We deserve that celebration.
Starting point is 00:37:52 We deserve so much more than we're getting. There's power in numbers. enjoy your damn gala a workers gala would be phenomenal I mean you know imagine I don't know how this would work but imagine you did like a workers gala
Starting point is 00:38:06 and you raised a whole bunch of money to give the workers like you know much needed bonuses even though you already have the money even though you already have the money he gave like 10 million dollars at least 10 million dollars for this gal but the lady was she looked like she was a 70 between 75
Starting point is 00:38:21 and 85 year old black woman older woman and she would just I mean you could see the pain in her face and how upset she was And it was very disturbing. It was very hard to watch. I think a lot of people, to your point, Andy, were talking about her age. She was 72 years old.
Starting point is 00:38:34 And to be working in an Amazon warehouse, a 72 years old when you should be retired. I think that was the conversation that I saw online last night surrounding, you know, what she had to say. And just blocks away. Salute to Chris Malls, man. You know what I mean? Because him being arrested last night
Starting point is 00:38:50 brought a lot of attention to that situation. So salute to Chris Moore. Definitely did, yeah. When I first started seeing them, because they've been doing things like putting up signs on the MET Museum and stuff like that for like the last like almost a month. And I was like, why is it so quiet? But last night, him doing it in real time, I feel like that was most effective.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Yeah. And also to your point, too, just blocks away. There was a counter event, labor groups. They hosted their own fashion show. It was called Ball Without Billionaires. So, and they kind of flipped the message. And there were workers as models. And they had a new theme called Labor is art instead of fashion is art.
Starting point is 00:39:24 It was labor is art. And so those workers just, you know, there was all sort of protests happening at the same time. They really wanted to make their voices heard as that Met Gala took place last night. And that kind of frustration, it wasn't just playing out in New York. Now, this morning in Philadelphia, parents, teachers, and city leaders, they're voicing their own sort of outrage. So the City Board of Education, it has voted to close 17 schools there, despite protest, disruptions, and fierce pushback from city. leaders. So there was a vote and it passed six to three. It was part of a $3 billion plan to reshape the district with officials saying it's about improving resources and opportunity for students. Now this
Starting point is 00:40:07 meeting itself, it was chaotic with protests inside the room. Lawmakers, they were threatening legal action. And the vote, it eventually moved online after officials were forced to take two recesses just to get through the agenda. Let's listen first to a city council member and then to a teacher about some of that back and forth that happened in that school board meeting. For the community to be at the table, they have not provided an opportunity for counsel to be at the table, and they're just trying to ram this down. Everybody's scrubs. We are not going to stand for it. They're going to lose good teachers. They're going to lose good students. They are going to lose a lot of support. I hope they're happy with this plan and what they decided on.
Starting point is 00:40:48 So critics say this is happening without a lot of transparency. It's going to hear. black students the hardest forcing some lower some into lower performing schools. But you have a school district and you're you're closing 17 schools in that district. It's forcing kids who have been in that school or, you know, people who live in that area to have to now go to different schools. And so it's a really big issue. Parents, school board members, everyone really, really upset by this happening in Philadelphia. And what's the reason?
Starting point is 00:41:19 Budget cuts. They're trying to say it's budget cuts. But then on the other side of that, which I was trying to try. to figure out is they're trying to find the money to fund it. So they're trying to close schools to save money, but then figure out how to, you know, raise money or get money to, to, you know, formulate this entire program or see it through. So I don't know. That's what I said.
Starting point is 00:41:39 They're not, from what I understand, there isn't a lot of transparency behind why they're trying to close 17 schools. Yeah, I would never, I would never understand why it's so hard for people to find money for things we actually need. like institutions we actually need, things that actually benefit our communities can never get resources, can never get funded. Yeah, it makes no sense. It makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:42:01 It's been like this at the beginning of times. It's always a fight, you know, when you've got to provide resources for, you know, for people and things that actually need it. And this goes back to what you were saying yesterday. You know, you understand why people get so mad and so upset when they see these billions and billions of dollars sent to other countries and sent to war
Starting point is 00:42:20 and then they're closing schools because they don't have the resources. You understand why people get mad. Can you imagine people in that district that already have, you know, 50, 60 kids per class? Like, can you imagine they already don't have the supplies? Yes, that's why people get so mad and upset. I don't understand why that's such a hard concept for people to grasp. Yeah, yeah. So we'll continue to watch that because that's a really big touch point.
Starting point is 00:42:39 All right, y'all, well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me. I'm Mimi Brown TV. And for more stories, follow the Black Information Network. All right. Thank you, Mimi. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:42:49 All right. Now, when we come back, Isaiah Rashad will be joining us. And Isaiah has a very interesting story because he's got a new album out called It's Been Awful. He's also signed a TDE, Top Dog Entertainment. And, you know, if you remember about five years ago, he got caught up because, you know, he got caught on a sex tape with another man. And people didn't know he was, I guess, gay, bisexual.
Starting point is 00:43:11 I think he's fluid. I think that's the term. Yeah, he said he was fluid. I'm sure it was a lot of fluid. You know what? We'll talk to Isaiah, Rochard, when we come back. He bricked up over there. Look at him.
Starting point is 00:43:19 All right, we'll talk about Isaiah and Rochard. When we come back, is the bricked. Good morning. Morning everybody is DJ NVV. Jets hilarious. Charlamaine de Guy. We are the breakfast club. Lawlerosa is here.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And we got a special guest in the building. Ladies and gentlemen, Isaiah Rashard. He's got a new album out. It's been awful. How are you, sir? You're great, man. How you feeling, man? I feel good.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Skin looking luxurious. I'm trying to follow you. Oh, no, he had to go through too much for that look. I'm on the same. Oh, that. I did a whole bunch of bad shaving in college and stuff. I've been having to do love. laser and all these other stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Chemical pills. Do you get your eyebrows done? You get your eyebrows done? No, I do not get my eyebrows. I was born like this. You said, me too. The hate is, only you listen to her. He goes through a lot.
Starting point is 00:44:03 And y'all act like men can't have, do maintenance on themselves. You can, but you be not trying, you'd be running from it. Who'd be running from what? You always up, you don't get your eyes. I don't get my eyebrows. Welcome, the conference. They look pretty manicured. They're not in no way, shape, or form.
Starting point is 00:44:16 The arch at the end, right? Yeah, exactly. Okay, well, to be honest, listen. Listen, listen, listen. When back in the day, when I was in, I don't even think I was in high school. I think I was like early 20s. Some girls told me that Tupac got his eyebrows arch.
Starting point is 00:44:29 And so they convinced me to get my eyebrows arch. And I think when it grew back, it just had a permanent arch. Okay. That's what I believe. That's a good way to look at it. It's the truth. What you mean? It's been awful.
Starting point is 00:44:42 What's been awful, Isaiah Rashad? I hear the album title and I listen to the album, but really the album title, it sounds like a confession. Like, what's been awful? The industry, your personal life. I mean, an amalgamation of everything. You know, I'm just a human being at the end of it. You know, I went through some to an extent,
Starting point is 00:45:02 but it was, you know, between being an artist and the expectations of that and I guess my deconstruction of my masculinity has been a lot of getting to know myself. Who had to, who deconstructed it, though? Did you deconstructed or did you let the court of public opinion deconstructed? I wonder, did you face it before? Before that became public, or were you already dealing with it privately?
Starting point is 00:45:25 I was already dealing with a lot of my own stuff before. I guess it was, I'm blessed to how everything happened with me and the reception of everything, because it allowed me to, like, step back and really reexamine what I was doing. Because regardless of, you know, how much I love myself, I still had to be like, I put myself in an irresponsible situation for anybody to be able to control my narrative. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:51 But at the time, because listening to the project and then hearing you say that, like, you felt like it was kind of like a blessing of how everything happened. When did you get to that point? Did you instantly feel like, okay, this is a blessing? Yeah, I mean, at some point in time, I accepted that they don't make a manual for being like a bisexual black dude. You know, or any of that type of, you don't have a, you know? Yeah. And it was less, like, hiding myself from anything, or more so, like, not knowing how to not be ostracized. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:22 So. Also, you got to control your holes regardless of their men or women because who the hell was recording you? I mean. I was, if you listen to the album, if you listen to the album, I go into a great amount of detail about where I was at and the influences I was under. Yeah, you said you was on a lot of shit. I was on everything under the sun.
Starting point is 00:46:47 But that's no excuse for the behavior. But, and that's the main thing for me. like I'm responsible for myself, responsible for my family, and all that type of . That's only, if I have any regret of anything, he's just like not being ahead of it. Because I thought about talking about this stuff on my last album.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Because all that tape happened before the last album came out. Before House of Burma? Yeah. That's why, like, on this album, I talk about how I wasn't being honest with, I guess what I owe the most, like, is my audience because they seem to love me
Starting point is 00:47:17 pretty genuinely. I don't like what things like that happen to people. I'll tell you why, because I feel like, you know, your personal life is yours to unpack it. Oh, thank you. When you want to unpack it. Yeah. And I think sometimes when things like that happen, you know, publicly you're forced to try to explain things when you may not be ready to explain them yet. I feel like I've always been under some type of divine guidance.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I grew up in a church and, you know, I kind of grew out of wanting to go as much. But my life has definitely been led. like, I feel like it's purposeful. I don't feel like I'm an artist just to make money. Like, I'm here to affect change in some type of way. So I feel like, you know, it happened. It was supposed to happen. And my life is better for it.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Did that moment break you or free you or both? It's a little bit of both at the same time. You know, anytime you don't get the control how you want to, you know, how you want to be perceived yeah yeah you perceive yeah and again it was like me understanding again like what was for the main thing what was like what was masculinity to me it made me confront a lot of stuff that I was saying about women and a lot of stuff a lot of ways I was expressing myself that was really coming just from a place of insecurity you know I mean I feel like I've gotten love myself a little better in my family man we way better open conversations we were pretty
Starting point is 00:48:48 open before but now it was like all on the table all the time had you had talked to your family like your mom and different people before all of this stuff because you tell you were kind of dealing with it yeah I definitely like my homeboys more than my mom I talked to my home boys about everything I was going through so they were the ones who released like they was like what the fuck are you doing like why are you you you know but they my homeboys like they know everything about me my brothers yeah oh so they knew beforehand yeah you know you have conversations on tour just in life and like especially when we was drinking and all this type of stuff,
Starting point is 00:49:19 you end up talking to your homeboys like, bro, I had to talk to you about the... And they'd be like, all right. And so when you like that, it's more so, you know, respect my own privacy to my life. It was just being irresponsible with, you know, being under this shit,
Starting point is 00:49:34 allowing things to go out. My only thing was, why you had to let Dr. Wumar down, why they had to be white? Like, what are you talking about? On the table, I saw. How can I let... I don't know. Dr. Umar probably will be with me anyway.
Starting point is 00:49:48 It's cool. Respect to that brother. Right. Do you feel like the coaching gave you grace or you forced to heal in public whether you wanted to or not? I feel like if you listen to my music on the back half of it, it's always been kind of fluid. It's always been pretty emotionally, emotional and romantic. And everything that rap usually isn't on the front side. of it. Yeah. So I feel like it was
Starting point is 00:50:19 prepared for it. I live in a pretty whimsical life anyway, how people perceive me. You know, so I feel like like only people who were upset with people who viewed me just because I'm like, I don't know how to put it, like, more feminine that they were surprised.
Starting point is 00:50:36 And that was the whole deconstruction thing. Like, what does that mean to me? Yeah. Did it make you realize that the Illuminati, not real? Because, you know, they say, when you get in the industry, you got to do strange things and then you blow up. They told me. You should be like Drake level if that's the case. I heard that.
Starting point is 00:50:51 I, um, past my own humiliation. They told me I got another 10 years of debt, so, you know. Word. Yeah. I love the act normal record too. You know what I'm saying? Because you talk about how your whole family was sex addicts. And I don't think
Starting point is 00:51:07 we don't have enough to... You listen to the shit. You think I'll just have you up here to talk to you about sex things? We got no. No, no, that's cold. That's, that was important. important record for me. Because I feel like we don't have enough conversations about environment. Yeah. And how environment
Starting point is 00:51:24 shapes us. Men don't have enough conversations about their formative years and how those formative years turn us into the people that we become. And sometimes we've got to unlearn a lot of that. That's been the main thing. It's been the heaviest thing. And to do it without blaming, to do it
Starting point is 00:51:39 and realize that the men that she would take me to go cheat on their wives, or whatever, I would call my uncles who remember and my dad or whatever, they, when I look at their fathers
Starting point is 00:51:56 in the lack of their lives, it's like, I can't, I can only be so upset. You know what I'm saying? I could take what happened to me in the past or what I saw them, but I got to be responsible for that. And I got to give them grace because, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:11 a lot of them don't have the same opportunities to see the world and experience it as open as I am to have the growth. So, you know, it's my responsibility to at least give them that. Well, what's crazy is you talk on the record about how when you was 12, you know, they said you want to see some nasty shit and your daddy kept your stash. They basically were showing you things. A lot of times guys show the sons that because they don't want their sons to end up.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Yeah, you end up hyper-sexualizing your kid and a fearful, preventative type of thing. You make them worse. Low-key. Did y'all have, so when you finally, when you came out, did you have a competition with those men that introduced you to? that? My uncle passed. I don't really talk to my dad. So, no, but I talked to the men who's still in my life about it.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Luckily, most of them are pretty positive influences, but it was good to talk about what happened to people I look up to. Did they understand when you went back, like, having that conversation? Are they understanding, or are they just positive? I feel like, the people know me just
Starting point is 00:53:10 knew. Like, they know exactly, but they were like, this isn't that surprising. Yeah. Yeah. What did this? experience teach you about masculinity, especially in a genre that rewards a certain image of what a man is supposed to be. What did it teach me?
Starting point is 00:53:28 It's like the most characteristics that are pushed are like negative. You know, the promiscuous nature and how that's promoted and being cold. Being a good dad isn't like promoted. Being like responsible isn't promoted. being a leader of your community without having to,
Starting point is 00:53:52 without getting the, the accolades is being a leader of the emotion and how you treat people. That's not really there. And real men cry. Real men, you know what I mean? Real men cry. Real men feel things.
Starting point is 00:54:06 And real men question themselves. But to go through life is like just sure of yourself and being, coming off, Invincible could just lead a kid down the wrong way feeling like he got to insulate. himself in that type of character. You know what? So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:22 So what are your superpowers? That's another record I like on that. Oh, man, I got crazy empathy. And as a, somebody who's in constant recovery, like I said, I mess up. I'm not perfect. Nobody know a junkie like a junkie,
Starting point is 00:54:40 like a junkie, bro. Man, I feel like that's what I'm here for. You feel like you was a junkie? I know now I'm talking about you're in meth. I go to A, and shit, bro, and I'm comfortable with being called a junkie from another junkie. Don't you, don't, if you ain't
Starting point is 00:54:54 never did drugs, I'll talk to everybody, but if you're an alcoholic, like, just because I don't drink today, I'm still an alcoholic. Like, I mean, that's a fucking that's going to stay with me for the rest of my life. And this is how I'm genetically built, too. You know what I mean? Come from a family of them. Yeah, I'm already pre-disposed to it.
Starting point is 00:55:10 My mom used to tell me that all the time, my mom used to always tell me, my brother's, watch that alcohol because, you know, alcoholism runs in both sides of your family. You might be saying that to me too. Am I, girl, you're going to alcohol. I can't handle my liquor. I try to be a lot more disciplined now.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Like, I do challenge myself. Like, I'll fast, I'll set days and times, just to make sure that I can control it a bit. Because you get to, like, socially doing it so much. And then you start depending on it for certain things. Like, oh, I got to take a shot before I do this. And then once you get around people that will call it out, like, he'd be on me.
Starting point is 00:55:40 And then I started to notice, like, all right, well, let me try and challenge myself to, like, not. Because I would come in here in the morning and be like, you know, I need, like, two shots before there's, the show start just to feel like as early as hell you see what I'm saying it didn't give to you know what I'm thinking about college like we would drink before we went to class that was a thing too and I thought it was regular because it's college and then you get in real life and you're like the college ain't real real life it's like a simulator yeah it's a bubble
Starting point is 00:56:02 yeah yeah I felt that same way mm-hmm on um what do you think you were trying to run from or escape when you was getting drunk what was you were you numbing yourself or something yeah definitely man I got without you know I'm like going down my delicious stuff But, you know, I have unresolved parental stuff on both ends. Like, respect to my relationship with my mom, we still have stuff to work out. And, you know, I just my father stuff. I don't like getting too heavy into it in my 30s. I'm like, handle that versus complaining about that.
Starting point is 00:56:35 I don't think it's complaining. Yeah, but that, you know, and then just substance. Going from college, I mean, like, I got signed when I was 21. So, and getting signed and getting thrust into this. world, especially in the blog era, was just, and partying was normal. Like, we used to, when in college, we used to drink Everclear and set it on fire.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Damn. No. For fun. That was a challenge when you first got to my college. Like, if you could drink it and get through it, your first Thursday, like you had, it was kind of like, like a hate thing. Just hearing the word Everclear.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Yeah. He was doing that. We was doing that. We was doing that. M.T.S.U. Okay. University. I was so off of that, right, on
Starting point is 00:57:16 super power, I mean, not super power on happy hour. That's the, you do like the radio skit. Yeah. Right. So you do the radio skit. Then you talk about your addiction. You talk about your mom and how she's like crying and still not helping. Are you, tell me if I'm wrong, are you comparing what you're experiencing in the entertainment industry, like that being your escapism, but then also comparing that to like drug use being your escapeism too and how both of them are kind of like feed in the fire? Oh, happy hour? Yeah, because I thought I'm like why bringing, why started with like the radio and like the, you know, unless you're signaling. Oh, I just be making
Starting point is 00:57:48 shit. Oh, okay. Yeah, I just be making stuff. A lot of stuff that I do isn't necessarily like planned. I have patterns that I recognize and I'm like, well, this is just how good on the same project together. But the radio theme was just something I wanted to do anyway.
Starting point is 00:58:04 I've always been interested in radio. Because I heard that part and just the name of it, I'm like... It's because it's, not to cut you off, but it's because of the variety and the album. Got you. It's like to set it up thematically because I don't really do concept album, but it's like it's an underground radio,
Starting point is 00:58:20 it's a smorgas board of different kinds of sounds. So it was like that. Got you. And it's just, it set me up pretty good. When I heard the beat doing that, it's easy for me to come up. You know, the biggest thing that we can do for each other as people, stop acting like everything is so black and white.
Starting point is 00:58:36 That's why I hate social media so much, because we take these complex things and try to make them A or B, right around. Because we try to debate it instead of, understand it. And it might not be meant to understood. It might just be meant to talk. You might understand exactly what you're going through. And it might not be up
Starting point is 00:58:54 for nobody else to understand. But once it's online, the issue is though, but once it's online, the people are debating and they're trying to fake understand. Some people feel the public opinion. Yeah. Once you do that. And that's the gift of the curse of the internet. And that's too, like when every time
Starting point is 00:59:10 like when you said, I signed up for this and he's like, no, you didn't. I feel like it's a difference in like the age groups as well. I was like, yeah, like, I knew what I was getting into. Like, I didn't know the possibilities of everything. I for sure knew, you know, we were on the same age. Yeah, I feel like you got to take what comes with it to a certain extent. First of all, let's be clear.
Starting point is 00:59:28 How old are you? How are you? 34. You're the same age. Oh, okay. I thought you were young. I just made a show. She's sweat.
Starting point is 00:59:35 She's not on. He's so mad. He's so mad. It didn't work because he's, you know he predates the internet. I'm 47, yes. I've been, I've been, I've been, I grew up. with them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Same. Same. Same. But the reason I say that is because, like, he is so far in his career that, like, I feel like he doesn't, they have the privilege to be like, I didn't sign up for that. And I'm not going to do that today. And we can do that, but, like, it's so different for us sometimes. They didn't have Wikipedia.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Or people doing TikTok reviews and you'd be like, no, I'm good. But here's the thing, I don't care what your sexuality. That's my point. So it really does not matter. Is the music jam? If this album was whack, I would be saying how this album is whack and it's not because of some sex. But you're older and you're involved than you have sense.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Turn your phone off then. If everybody could be that like the rationale could be there, it would be so much less of a lot of things. You know, you really, I'm not joking, you owe nobody, no explanation. If you choose too, cool, but you really don't know. I only do it for the little to, man, thanks, bro. You need to hear it, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:45 I'm like, bro, I really, that's the only people I owe is the people, you know, in the ministry. That's really it. And that's the hard spot because it's like when you're vulnerable like you are, people connect to you and they need it. But at the same time, you got the people on the other side. And some people run away from being vulnerable because of that. What's crazy is you won't see negativity unless you seek it out. Turn your phone on. And then if somebody is negative enough to hop in my comment section, they really just like me.
Starting point is 01:01:14 You really like me. lot. So it's like, just do, just deal with your insecurities on your own. And I'll be here when you're, when you're done. But as your own, you gonna put that tape out, entice them guys. It might have seen what you was doing. That's not sexy. That's not sexy. That's, it's not sexy. That killed my stock like a, be honest. How many people was in your DM's like, yo, what's up? It was a lot. See what I'm saying? You for? Tell that side. But it's like, it's like, it's like nobody's, nobody's that attractive when they they're coming at you on that end of your life. You know, they're like, it wasn't. It wasn't
Starting point is 01:01:45 nobody that you like, well, they sent their number, so let me at least just... No. You might, you asshole. Maybe. Yeah, if you need something, hear my number. The past. Yeah. The past, a lot of makeup artists hit me up.
Starting point is 01:02:05 I'm like, okay. Listen, I gave me an opportunity to expand my audience, though. Oh, okay. It's like, oh, you like this? So we're everywhere with it I wonder Because hip hop is going to always struggle with conversations around sexuality
Starting point is 01:02:24 Vulnerability, masculinity Do you think what you went through Move the culture forward in any way I mean I think it was predated A little bit with Frank And The shit Tyler did
Starting point is 01:02:35 And all that kind of shit And then I feel like you just got to not go out Like back in the day I shouldn't have said that I shouldn't say that But how the internet did that Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was that look.
Starting point is 01:02:47 But you, yeah, that's you. You kind of had that same. Yeah, like, it was like we was 15 years past that. So, you know, I think I was, I just hit in a nice little soft cushion. When people look back at this chapter of your life, what do you hope they understand that headlines got wrong? I don't think people will look back at this chapter like that after everything is going on. Like, just as it would be a booknote. And I feel like it's not that surprising.
Starting point is 01:03:12 If you know my music and you've seen me, I'm like, if I wouldn't already gay, I was hella affectionate. You know, like, I'm hell of, you know. So that ain't tripping on. I am who I am. I'm here, you know, I don't know too many of just four projects. You know, been up here and been seeing you for the past 15 years. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:03:36 So I'm here doing something for somebody. I respect anybody who's not afraid to be who they are. Yeah. That's just it. Like, I don't know. I don't care. You know what I'm saying? And I'm sure it's a bunch of other people
Starting point is 01:03:49 that feel that way, too. I think most people, we all got somebody in our family. You know what I'm saying? To some extent of who's bi, gay, or somewhere in between or transitioning or whatever.
Starting point is 01:04:06 So, yeah. And it's like, not even to make it a thing. It's like, you're, I don't know, on a scientific level, you're very much predisposed. if you come from a broken arm to have some type of sex or curiosity.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Some paper. It might be wrong, but yeah. Hell of. Because you're searching for a need for something? It's just the dynamics of relationships. I was like, you know, if you only grew up around women, you know, some of your habits
Starting point is 01:04:34 or if you only grew up around men, some of your habits and how you view things, a girl that was raised by men, you can't be surprised when she started liking girls. I think it's just something Yeah, like you said pre-dispo, I just think it's biological. I don't know if it's... I think it's a combination.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Some people are... Some, some... Nersher, some shit. And some of it's a combination. And it's not up to me to determine. It's going to take up too much in my life besides just being okay with it. You are who you are? You are.
Starting point is 01:05:06 So what's the moral of the story, man, from everything you've been through? Is it fame, exposure, healing, all of it? What is it? Buy my album, so I can take care of my family. Exactly. It's been awful. It's been awful. The bills are high.
Starting point is 01:05:19 The government's weird. They want to take parks away from people and a whole bunch of other shit that I don't have to get into because I don't get paid to do that. But definitely, just by the album, man. By the album, it'll do something nice for you, do something positive for your mental. And either you're going to love it and feel seen or you're going to put it up until you need it. but it's going to come back around. It's been awful, man, Isaiah Rashad. It's been a pleasure, at least to talk to you.
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Starting point is 01:10:07 Talk to me. All right, guys. So we have been following the story of the reported shooting in the vicinity of celebrities' homes. And one of the celebrities that people are trying to point to is Chris Brown. And we talked about yesterday how I spoke to police and they could not confirm anything about Chris Brown's home. They said he didn't speak to Chris Brown. That there's a bunch of celebrities that live on this block. Now, there's a new update here that is mentioning the man who was arrested, who I found out yesterday was released on the $50,000 bond, was a part of Chris Brown's security team.
Starting point is 01:10:38 And that as of the story breaking on Friday, he was relieved of his duties. Now, I did speak to LAPD again on this story. And they, again, pointed out to the fact that this did not. happen at Chris Brown's home that they can confirm that it was in the vicinity and they cannot confirm that this man was a part of Chris Brown's security team. I'm so confused. And what I will say is because, you know, whenever you're talking to a PIO source or a law enforcement source on the record is much different than if you have a person inside of the agency, the police agency who is willing to talk to you on background. And at this point, I think that that's
Starting point is 01:11:12 what it is. There's information coming from both sides of things. But on the record, police are not willing to mention any of the stories that are reporting now, but I did reach out on it because I knew that we'd have some questions in the follow-up because of our story yesterday. What about the person that got arrested? Whatever happened to him? He was arrested, and then he was released on bond. And now he's going to have to go to court. Did they say what happened while was he arrested? The shooting of the BB gun. Was it a BB gun or not a BB gun? I told you guys yesterday. Police said that it was a BB gun. It did happen, but it was not in connection to Chris Brown. That police brought him. But who did he
Starting point is 01:11:43 shoot at? Why did he arrest? There was a woman in a car that called the police. There's a police. We talked about this yesterday. Yeah. So that... Does it sound like a record with none? I don't know. I don't know. You shoot her an ass?
Starting point is 01:11:55 Like what happened? Like what happened? Like, what happened? Like, what happened? She called the police because she was, I mean, she probably was scared, allegedly, right? Like, she's in a car. The guy is alleging... I'm definitely calling the police on you if you hit me with a BB gun. The guy is alleging that she ran over... They were in an argument, a verbal argument.
Starting point is 01:12:08 She ran over his foot with the car. And then he shot what she thought was a weapon, but police were saying it was a CO2-style BB gun. And the guy was arrested. You didn't say that yesterday. I did so. That he ran over the guy's foot? I did so.
Starting point is 01:12:20 I don't remember to run it over the football. You can go back and listen. I remember her saying that he got shot with an official red rider, carbon action, 200 shot range model air rifle, but I don't remember. It was a CO2 gun there. She said yesterday. Yeah, I said that yesterday. But the whole point in this was the whole security guards information,
Starting point is 01:12:33 police are not willing to go on record about that either. And Chris Brown again has spoke out and said he didn't know any of this was happening at all. That's the sad part. How did Chris Brown's name get attached to this? That's what I'm still. Somebody just wanted to get some clicks, bro. I'm trying to figure. that out. Like, I'm really trying to figure that out. And I know I've tried to reach out to
Starting point is 01:12:50 Chris Brown's team, but they aren't responding. He posted on Instagram. Police are the only people that will talk to me, and they are not attributing any of this to Chris Brown. So, okay. Yes. And moving on, uh, yesterday, we talked about, uh, young Miami. Uh, Karecia, she was down in Miami for a Formula One weekend and there was a party happening and she stopped the DJ. Now, we discussed that yesterday and she's had to come out and apologize since then. Let's take a listen. We was in Miami. I was in the spirit of the moment. You know, just trying to get trying to turn a party up. Y'all know I'm a fun girl. I was just genuinely trying to have a good time. The video took place. And I just want to send a publicly apology to DJ Sean Matt.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Shout to DJ Sean Meg. It was never my intention to publicly disrespect somebody and make somebody look crazy again. I was just trying to turn up, have fun, have a good time. And it happened publicly. So I'm sending my publicly apology to DJ Sean Matt. And there we have it. And we can move. I saw people, you know, not accepting the apology, which I think is crazy. Like if she's correcting it in a real time, let her do that and then move on. Because it sounds like she apologized
Starting point is 01:13:51 because she got, you know, all the DJ started hitting her and I'm sure the label hit her. That's what it seemed like the apology came from. But before even... Because it just wasn't like you're trash. She went on a little ramp.
Starting point is 01:14:00 But she said... But she mentioned in the... I saw it in the shade room comments also mentioning that, you know, she was a little drunk. She was having a good time and she didn't mean any harm by it. So I think you got to take it at face value, right?
Starting point is 01:14:10 That's what it is. I mean, she felt that way. If she felt that way, that's her opinion on that. I thought it was wrong, but if she felt that way, she felt the way. Don't change up now because you get on that backlash and the label's mad at you. If you felt something was like that, it's like if somebody doesn't like her record or somebody, they're going to say the record is ass-at.
Starting point is 01:14:26 I think you upset just as a DJ. I'm not. I'm not saying, stand on it. If that's how you feel, that's how you feel. You can't take it back. Like, we've said records are trash and not just her, but anybody's record that we don't like. And if we don't take it back when we're like, we hurt the person's feeling. But if she was if she was a little intoxicated.
Starting point is 01:14:43 And she jumped on that microphone And she did something she regrets She can apologize for it You can't tell her to keep stand on it I'm not saying stand on it She might look back and be like damn I was messed up If the apology came from the right reason Then yes absolutely
Starting point is 01:14:56 But if it became because she got on the backlash yesterday I didn't really see her getting no backlash Oh no yeah They was on her I mean but they're a ton of people I saw DJs making videos I saw Kid Capri make a video
Starting point is 01:15:09 Well that's different say that There was a bunch of DJs Chicago was on her ass Kickapree. Okay, now you make a bunch of DJs. Because you got an album coming out and you're going to need your record. And that was the conversation. Why can't you just say that?
Starting point is 01:15:20 I just said that. I said, do it for the right reason. Is she dead it for the right reason? What you're saying is a bunch of DJs gave her backlash and she's got an album coming out and she's going to want her records played. And she don't need the DJs not playing her music because of what she did the DJ Sean Mack in the country. That's what it sounds like to me. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:15:37 I get it now. I'm like, who the hell is day? Twitter? You can give a damn about Twitter. But then DJs are coming out. You got a goddamn get all good on. He knows what time it is, okay? The clock is.
Starting point is 01:15:47 See time, okay? All right, now that's the latest for this hour, and the next hour we'll be back with some more. All right. Now, Shaliman, who you give him that donkey too? Man, four after the hour, as if y'all needed more reason to know why you should tip people.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Okay, we need a guy named Zachary. What's the name? Zachary, Nicholas Watson, to come to the front of the congregation. We would like to have a word with him, please. All right. We'll get to that next. It's the breakfast club.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Good morning. I'd be wanted to know how you came up. with the donkey of the day. Because you're mean. I am not. What do I do? There's a bunch of donkeys out in the streets. If we live a life where we bite our tongues based off who we may offend, we never would say anything.
Starting point is 01:16:26 We don't give a damn don't throw it. Hey, give it to him. Give it to him. On the breakfast club. In the words of Charlemagne, the guy, he's a donkey. He was a little bit of all. Oh, man, Charlemagne, you giving dunk for the day to who now? Well, Buster Rhymes.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Donkey today for Tuesday, May 5th. Cinco de Mayo! Senko de Mayo! Ola, and a single de Mayo. Go ahead, man. Cinco de Mayo. Donkey today goes to 36-year-old Zachary Nicholas Watson of Missouri.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Now, Zachary was arrested and charged with armed criminal action, first-degree assault, our attempt and leaving the scene of an accident. Now, what caused Zachary to do all that? The answer is nothing. There is absolutely zero reason to commit the crimes he's committed,
Starting point is 01:17:17 But unfortunately, we live on a planet where economic strife is causing people amongst us to become nuts. Okay? Radicalized. And the reality is some folks are feeling so much economic pain that they are fed up and willing to risk it all. I don't know why. I got to keep having to tell y'all this, but it is the reality of the situation. Well, what did Zachary do? Let's go to U.S. Daily Crime for the report, please.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Zachary Nicholas Walton, a Domino's delivery driver, recently faced allegations in Missouri. Police alleged Walton intentionally struck a customer with his car. The incident occurred during a dispute. The dispute centered on the customer not providing a tip. Walton reportedly used his vehicle to hit the customer. This occurred outside the customer's residence. You can't even order pizza and breadsticks and wings no more without the threat of dying. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Zachary, Big Z, you hit somebody with a car over a tip. Okay, a tip? and if you read the article I was reading the article not just listening to the news report he said he only did it to scare him I promise you if you simply said to that man
Starting point is 01:18:23 next time leave a tip or say hey are you really going to trust someone with your food that you don't tip that's just the scariest running to hit me with a car by the way okay I'll be thinking about that every time I order something
Starting point is 01:18:33 and making sure I leave a tip if somebody whispers that to me by the way that is actually the reason you should tip I mean people are going to be crazy regardless but I feel like if you treat somebody right put some good energy out
Starting point is 01:18:43 give them the dignity of a tip, they might think a little differently about tampering with your food. And I know tipping culture is confusing, right? Because you constantly questioning yourself, should I tip, or how much should I tip?
Starting point is 01:18:55 What do you mean? I have to add gratuity because the person is breathing. But nowhere in the tipping guidelines does it say, if I choose not to tip, okay? If I don't tip,
Starting point is 01:19:05 I'm going to get run over by a 2008 Nissan Ultima. All right? That doesn't even happen on GTA. Listen, I know not getting a Tip is frustrating. People like, get it. You're driving around, gas high as hell. People order it $80 worth of food and giving you nothing. That hurts. But you know what hurts more?
Starting point is 01:19:23 Anal sex. Okay, being penetrated by a man doing 100 years in a prison. That is what you don't want. And that is the risk you run, sir, okay, because you didn't do your jail math. Your jail math is when you calculate if what you are about to do is worth the time, okay? All right? Is what you are about to do worth the time that you will get for doing it? And this ain't it. Okay, you was completely in the wrong from the beginning. You started the argument, you escalated it, you used your vehicle as a weapon,
Starting point is 01:19:52 then you left the scene because you didn't get a tip. Now you're facing charges like first degree assault, armed criminal action, leaving the scene, all because somebody said, nah, I'm good on the tip. Zachary, did you ever stop to think that maybe just maybe, the person who ordered the food couldn't afford to tip you? What if that individual was spending his last to eat? What if that person would love to tip you but just couldn't afford to do so?
Starting point is 01:20:18 Did you ever stop to think that you're not the only person out here dealing with financial issues? Okay, Zachary, if your emotional intelligence is so low that a missing tip, a missing tip turns into a tempted vehicular homicide, then you are the one who doesn't deserve the tip. I don't like when you laugh when I say that word. It's homicide. Homicide. Now, you know that, you know that word is difficult for me.
Starting point is 01:20:43 You know it's difficult to me. Homicide. Now, Zachary, you didn't just lose your tip. You lost your job, your freedom, and possibly your boonkey for $5. Please. You see? I'm trying to tell you. And that's just the tip.
Starting point is 01:20:58 That was just the tip. He ain't even put it all the way in yet. Please give Zachary Nicholas Watson the sweet sounds of the hamletones. Oh, now you are the donkey of the day. Always do your jail. math, ladies and gentlemen. Okay, your jail map is when you calculate if what you are about to do is worth the time that you will get for doing it. Always got to remember that.
Starting point is 01:21:33 All right. Well, thank you for that donkey of the day. Yes, indeed. Now, when we come back, Zuri Hall will be joining us. My girl, Zori. She was on the 26 Met Gallo red carpet last night for E. So we're going to talk to her when we come back. She woke up early for this.
Starting point is 01:21:46 So Zuri Hall when we come back, it's the breakfast club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's D.J. N.V. Jesselarious. Salamee de Guy. We are the breakfast club. Law and the Roses here as well. We have Zuri Hall in the building. She covered the 2026 Met Gala red carpet last night for
Starting point is 01:22:00 E. I know she got to be tired. And also, Zuri, big up yourself. That's right. Tell them about the stuff. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. It was corseted. I've got the scars to prove it now. The necklace was so high. It's painful, but beauty is pain. How long does your prep take? Like, how long are you
Starting point is 01:22:16 like, I'll start, like, looking for your dress throughout the year? You got to be there at 2 o'clock. So you started nine in the morning. Do you hear me? the glam genuinely, I think they pulled up to my hotel room around 8.30 a.m. We were in the chair by 8.45. And then, yeah, I was on my way to the Met by, you know, we do the rounds, we do the glam bot, do all the pictures,
Starting point is 01:22:32 all that stuff. But yeah, 2 o'clock. We're in position at the Met. How long it takes me? Lauren, you'd be surprised how last minute the glam is for us. Because, like, really, the fashion is important, but I'm also super focused on just, like, the job and, like, who's coming? What do I need to know? What do I need to ask them?
Starting point is 01:22:49 My dress, this was the, longest out I'd ever prepped, I think a week and a half, two weeks out. But sometimes I've had gowns that are getting the final touches like the day before, two days before. Last year, I wore an incredible designer Bishmi Cromarty for the Super Fine Black Taylor Incite. He's incredible.
Starting point is 01:23:06 He was on Project Runway, out of Baltimore, so talented. And he did a custom look. So that was him just working up until those final few days. So every year's different. You've been doing this for like a decade, Zori. How has social media changed what celebrities are willing to say to you on the record? I love that question.
Starting point is 01:23:23 It has changed a lot because that's part of the reason people didn't stop last night, I think. It's just there's such a risk of things being taken out of context. We live in a clip economy at this point, right? Like, it is not often that people are like, wow, that was an interesting 60 seconds. I have an idea about that. But I think I'm going to go watch the full hour-long conversation first before I post a hot take, right? And so I think people have become more cautious. They've become more savvy.
Starting point is 01:23:51 And I think that's also why we're seeing more public figures and celebrities who traditionally would not be behind a mic in the way that we are getting behind the mics or going to their friends to have the conversations behind the mics because they really need to trust that they have what they believe is a safe space. Some might also argue a softball space, right? Like you're not going to get asked a hard hitting questions if it's your bestie who's doing the podcast conversation with you. But that's just the world, the media landscape that I think we live in. you all see it often, hear it often, probably experience it often with your interviews. But it definitely changes the level of transparency, you know. But I will say after 11 years of doing this, you start to build the trust, right? Where I take pride in people coming to me, like The Rock last night.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Dwayne was not really doing a ton of press to start. Not first name basis. No, Dwayne the Rock Johnson, Mr. Johnson. He stopped and we've got a great interview. history. He met my dad in Maui when I covered the Moana 2 carpet. So over the years, you start to get that feeling of, okay, I can
Starting point is 01:24:59 go to her, I can trust her. She's going to ask me smart questions. They're going to be fair, but I'm not going to, you know, pull a gotcha or anything like that. Yeah. What would some of your favorite outfits? For people that are listening, you're driving in work right now, maybe they didn't see the Met Gallo. What were
Starting point is 01:25:15 some of your favorite outfits and why for last night? Men and women. I mean, I love it's so obvious, it's so on the, but Rihanna, nasat. Like, they're always worth the way. I love how you know, they are always doing their own thing and yet somehow feel very cohesive. I believe Rihanna was in Mason Margella. I loved
Starting point is 01:25:32 seeing Dampson Idris. I just, I loved the hair. I loved the pop of red. I thought it was understated. Outside of Was that diamonds, Beyonce was remember? Was that all diamonds? I've seen a report that said it was all diamonds. I can't imagine it be anything less. I mean Sorovsky Crystal, perhaps? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:50 But they said diamonds. I'm like, that's about $20 million looking out of me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, she looked incredible. I mean, she was shining ahead to tell. Blue Ivy was a vibe. For that to be her first Met Gallagher carpet. I mean, she's so cool. She's so cool. She's got such a presence.
Starting point is 01:26:05 And you can tell that she, like, I'm so excited to see her evolution. Like, her star power that she oozes is so effortless. The shades, it was so sweet. When I asked, be honest, like, how are you feeling tonight? And she said, I feel so good. My baby's here. She pointed to blue. And it was like, Blue was just doing.
Starting point is 01:26:21 her thing solo on the carpet. Jay's watching like a proud dad. And it's like we've all kind of watched her grow up. So to see her in a moment like that, completely cool under pressure, she was really fun to see. One of the other question. One of the Jenna girls had like a body suit. Then it was like a dress off of
Starting point is 01:26:37 a body suit. Did I see something? I thought I seen the people. Kylie? I don't know the names. She had blonde eyebrows. Yes. You're talking about Kylie. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, who? What? With the body? Yeah, she had like a body suit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that was Kylie Jenner.
Starting point is 01:26:52 I don't know what, I don't know what design that was. She didn't stop and talk. And honestly, so much of my job, like in the moment, if I am not getting the information directly from them, I don't know until later, right? Because in my ear, they're mostly like, so-and-so's on the carpet, try to get them, and we're talking about the moment,
Starting point is 01:27:09 and then our guys in the studio are covering the actual fashion details. So I'm getting the, how are you feeling, who are you with? What was the prep like? Talk to me about the road to the gala. And then we'll toss back to the studio. and they've actually got the details being fed to them in real time. So unless someone comes up to me and says, I'm with Michael Coors and I'm wearing Michael Coors,
Starting point is 01:27:28 I'm finding out honestly a lot of the time, like the rest of y'all, like right after. Skipperle. Skaparelli. Yeah. Oh, that looks Scaparelli too. I mean, so structural. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:38 She was gorgeous. I want to ask about you, Zuri. What's a moment in your career where you felt underestimated? And how did you flip that? I think you know this one, Charlemagne. I think in New York. Like when I was, and I don't know if it was underestimated so much as underutilized through no fault of like the networks. But, you know, I was at MTV.
Starting point is 01:27:59 I had signed this overall deal. I was super excited about it. I thought this is like my big break. I've actually been talking about it on my Instagram, like this plot twist series because there's some changes coming my way with my career soon too that I'm actually excited about. But I felt underestimated because it's like put me in coach. Like I know what I can do if I'm just given the right. opportunities and I just think it was a lack of opportunity it wasn't a time where there was a ton of development you were a blessing right those opportunities with MTV and MTV 2 with everything that
Starting point is 01:28:30 you had going on really helped shape me in that moment and sort of give me a confidence that I was kind of losing in that moment quite frankly but I think I've always been kind of underestimated I'm traditionally I've been shyer than people expect and so growing up the most you would hear me talk as if I was on stage or on screen. I think that's probably why I pursued this career. It was kind of like permission to take up space. And so because of that, when I would come into a room, I would always be under restaurant. I'm like, gosh, you don't talk now.
Starting point is 01:29:01 What's you going to say? What's the mic come on? I never understood that, though, because I never understood why MTV just didn't use you the way he was using you. You could have the same thing, the red carpets. That's true. But, you know, did we have shows like that at MTV at the time? Because I know the MTV that I, you know, we all grew up winning.
Starting point is 01:29:17 That's true. That's very true. The music awards, the movie awards. Yeah. They had plenty of awards, though. I know. The irony is, as soon as I moved to L.A. and got the job at E-News,
Starting point is 01:29:27 I got flown to New York to go cover, like, the MTV Movie Awards and all this stuff. Yeah. So there was some irony there. But it all works out how it was supposed to work out, you know. How do you handle rejection in an industry where everything is so public-facing, I guess? I think I have always been so used to know. Like, I just don't know is not yet for me. My senior year of high school, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:48 one of our English teachers gave everybody a word and mine was tenacious, tenacity. I don't even think I knew it. I had to Google it later. Like, wait, what makes me tenacious? Tenacious? I don't know. I was like, yeah, no, that checks out.
Starting point is 01:30:00 I think I've just always been someone who was raised with this almost like a healthy delusion, right? My dad is always like, you can do whatever you want, you can be whatever you want. And not in like a generic cliche way. Like, that man really had me thinking if I woke up at 18 and ran for president.
Starting point is 01:30:18 like they can figure it out. They move some things around. You know? Absolutely. Exactly. And he spoke that sort of life into me at such an early age that no is something I never took personally. I'm like, oh, they just don't know me yet.
Starting point is 01:30:31 They don't see me yet. So I never took that personally because you just haven't been able to experience what it is. I know I can show you if you give me the opportunity. So does it suck? That it's a no? Yeah. But I'm going to go get it somewhere else. Make it a yes somewhere else.
Starting point is 01:30:44 How do you feel now because I know Access Hollywood just got cancer? So how do you take that? You know, it's bittersweet. It's the end of an era. I think it's the changing landscape, right? Like it's been 30 years of Access Hollywood has been on the air. The syndication studio is shutting down. So that's affecting all of the shows that traditionally have relied on syndication.
Starting point is 01:31:03 Karamo, the Steve Wilcoe show, et cetera. I think, I don't want to say the writing was on the wall with this show specifically. I think just with that model, I am hopeful that, you know, there will be some new iteration. of the brand. I think a lot of things are just moving to digital. But I am also excited about what's next for me. And there's still so many other opportunities. I still work with E. Right. When I'm on these big awards show red carpets, when I'm in those hosting positions, that's live for me. When I'm doing Fandango, big ticket interviews, one-on-one exclusives, that's an entirely different property. American Ninja Warriors coming back this summer on NBC.
Starting point is 01:31:42 So, yeah, we've still got that stuff. But I'm excited to have more time to actually build and focus on IP and ownership. I launched my show Not About Sports earlier this year. And so I'm just excited to embrace the changes. I always roll with the punches. I love it. Honestly, the only thing constant is changed.
Starting point is 01:31:58 So you just got to rock with it. I know you interviewed the Devil Warch Devilworth's proud of cast for the second movie. Yeah, and Stanley. In the second movie, it's very reminiscent about I feel like what you talk a lot about in your plot to a series,
Starting point is 01:32:11 about how things have to move and adapt and change. Yeah. What has been your decision to share as those things are happening intentionally, right? Like, we read about you, but you're deciding to give us your voice on it as it happens. Yeah, I think it's because of that. Like, people may read about it
Starting point is 01:32:26 or they may experience me as a host. Yeah. I think I got so comfortable being seen without really being seen, right? Showing up, hosting the show, being impressive and focusing on accomplishment only. Like, that's always been kind of a safe space to exist. Like, when I'm struggling.
Starting point is 01:32:46 struggling or when I'm confused or when I'm not sure, it's easier to like be in hiding for that and then pop back out when I have something impressive and interesting to say. And the older I get, the more comfortable and confident I get with just who I am and like where I am in any given moment, the more I am willing to embrace vulnerability publicly. And I think we're all in a really interesting time. You know, there are a lot of women, especially in transition, black women, particularly in the workforce right now, who at a disproportionate rate are not. losing their jobs, right? It's tough right now for everyone, but I think especially for us.
Starting point is 01:33:20 And as I see the comments and I talk with my followers, I was like, this is honestly a blessing in disguise because if I'm willing to be vulnerable about my show going away and I'm willing to do it in real time and be like, I'm not figuring it out totally yet, but I've been here before. I've had to ride the waves before. I've had to navigate the plot twist before. I've always come out on the other side. And the reason that I can do this in a steady, way is because of what I've learned. So let me share that with you. Let me share why my life didn't collapse. Let me share why I'm excited about a not entirely known future. Like that came through a lot of work, a lot of therapy, a lot of figuring out who I am and what my identity
Starting point is 01:34:02 is outside of my job. So when I lose a job, I don't lose myself because I've done a lot of work to figure out who Zuri Hall is when she's not on air. And so being transparent with the plot twist series is just something that I wanted to share. In case it helped anybody else who's also like, what am I doing with my life? This is not what I saw for myself. This is not what I expected. I did everything right and still. And the feedback's been great.
Starting point is 01:34:28 So I'm going to just keep telling my business in small doses. What's something you had to unlearn to grow in this business? Something I had to unlearn. Ooh, that's a good one, Char. Something that I had to unlearn in this business was, yeah, that opportunity sometimes and success and or lack thereof is not directly tied to my worth. Truly, because as someone who growing up, my career, my ambitions, my accomplishments was my identity. When I was passed over for something, when it was, okay, maybe next time, but not now.
Starting point is 01:35:11 I really, I used to take it personally sometimes, just in. in small moments and I've realized there's such a political game to a lot of this, you know. And so often the reason that it's someone else versus you has nothing to do with you. And there's also something beautiful about being able to say that is for them. Like what is for them is for them. What's for me is for me. And I'm not going to tell myself a lie about who I am or what I deserve just because someone else in this moment thought that that wasn't who I was or what I deserved. And so, yeah, just
Starting point is 01:35:50 embracing my worth outside of my job and who decided that I deserved an opportunity. Yeah, I just had to unlearn my worthiness being attached to my output, my creation, my achievement. That is so dope because I remember, you know, 10 years ago when they did not know what to do with Zuri Hall at MTV. And she was just, you know, up there every day, you know? And I'm just like, yeah, she's just doing what she should be doing. Thank you. Thank you for joining us this morning.
Starting point is 01:36:21 Thank you for having me, y'all. I appreciate it. And then, you know, like I said, I'm going to put you in touch. Like, if you need an intern for next year's red carpet. Somebody carry your bag, you know someone. Okay. He's really good at carrying things. He used to do it for DJ Clue.
Starting point is 01:36:33 Really? Yeah. That was a good stab. I like that. That was crazy. We love, we love to quit. That was crazy. Zeri y'all is the Redmond's going up.
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Starting point is 01:37:20 Well, it got bad enough that her son-in-law had to eventually arrest her himself. Oh. She moved in for two weeks, lasted for five. She left nail clippings in the bathtub, candy stuck to the furniture, and then she pressed her ear against the bedroom door and burst in screaming. She did not burst in while they were... She did. They kicked her out and paid for her hotel, and they thought,
Starting point is 01:37:39 it's finally over. Days later, she called her son-in-law at work, claiming that his partner had been in some kind of freak accident and had been rushed to the hospital. in an ambulance. He called every hospital in the city, and his partner was making coffee the entire time. She faked a medical emergency just to test whether or not he loved her son? Yeah. And she sat in the hospital parking lot, waiting for him to see if he would show up. When that didn't work, she walked into the son-in-law's police station and filed a kidnapping report against him.
Starting point is 01:38:06 She filed a kidnapping report against him in his own police station. And spoilers, karma's going to show up in the best way possible. So if you want to hear how this story ends, search OKC. story time on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're listening to podcasts. In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in so-ins, correct?
Starting point is 01:38:41 I doctored the test ones. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfected. They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg Alesspian and Michael Marantini. My mind was blown.
Starting point is 01:39:01 I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Maricopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona.
Starting point is 01:39:22 Listen to Love Trapped Podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either.
Starting point is 01:39:45 We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care, so they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no.
Starting point is 01:40:10 I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Okay, so yesterday, guys, Stefan Diggs was in court with his old chef. Now, this is the woman who is accusing him of assaulting her back in December of 2025 and not paying her. Her name is Jamelia Adams.
Starting point is 01:40:42 And yesterday she had to take the stand in the courtroom in detail some of the allegations. Let's take a listen to the chef on the details of the alleged assault. I was in the bedroom. He missed the day. He came into my room, was playing across the bed. When you were in the bedroom was the door closed? Yes, the door was closed. So when he came in, did he open the door? Yes, he opened the door.
Starting point is 01:41:04 He came in and he would intent to hurt me. No, no, not his intent or anything. What actually happened? He was leaning against the dresser. He asked me to get up to come here. I got up off the bed and I came across to him. Like, I stood on the side of him. He was like, what was all the shit? He was talking.
Starting point is 01:41:21 And then what happened? And I was beginning to say, you said, and I couldn't finish my statement, and he smacked me with an open hand. So you said you pushed out, and you made a motion of your hands. So is that mean you pushed of your hands? Yes. Around what, like his stomach, his chest, his shoulders. Up to block his hands. And then he took his arm and he came around my neck with him.
Starting point is 01:41:42 And he began to choke me, the pressure on my neck. So what's the story now? So the story is that, and I want to say that Stefan Diggs denies all of those allegations, but the story is that Stefan Diggs has this chef that was previously living with him. Now they met about... So she was a living chef. Yes, she was a living chef. They met about four years
Starting point is 01:42:00 ago once they started communicating via Instagram DM and their relationship blossomed in from friends to her being the living chef. She was working with him during a recovery year and then she said their relationship got complicated because they did have sexual interactions she alleges, right?
Starting point is 01:42:17 So basically, she was alleging that after they got into this big argument over another person that was working in Stefan Diggs home, a woman that she alleges that he had another sexual relationship with, that he had stopped paying her and stopped inviting her to things. She talks
Starting point is 01:42:32 about an art basil trip to Miami, but her issue was that she's saying that when she confronted him about the non-invite and the money that he put his hands on her. So now she is in court and she's alleging these things. And he was actually charged with felony, strangulation
Starting point is 01:42:48 and misdemeanor assault. But again, he pled guilty he's denying all of the allegations and his team is saying that she made all of this up and in court yesterday it was the things were not on her side yesterday whatsoever it did it began to look like um from the picture that the prosecution uh i'm sorry the defense was painting they were painting this picture like she was upset about the fact that he was in relationships with other women um and nothing to do with what she's claiming now uh she actually talked about the time when uh she was upset about not going to miami with uh because her and carty b had some plans like Let's take a listen.
Starting point is 01:43:22 He asked me what was I doing for the week, and I asked him, oh, so you weren't going to tell me that I wasn't able to come to Art Basel. He explained why, and it was because of the situation with me and the other coworker, Lindsay, Bolin. I was upset with him, not upset at the fact I couldn't go to Art Basel. Me and him have a relationship over four and a half years. He could have told me weeks ahead of time because me and his girlfriend, Cardi B, we were talking about having outfits and stuff. It was like a whole thing being planned and he just waited to the last day. So I was more upset with him not letting me know
Starting point is 01:43:55 I wasn't going to come like at an earlier time. Yeah, and they're calling, his team is calling BS on this and they also brought up the fact that like there were text messages that were deleted and one of the text message read something to the effect of I want to ruin that B's life. So he's in court right now fighting to clear himself of all of this. So that started yesterday and it will be continued so we'll keep you guys updated there.
Starting point is 01:44:16 Now in other news, so we talked a bit about Chris Brown at the top of the show but I wanted to bring it back because what we did not talk about was the music you guys know that Chris Brown has a new album that is coming out so he actually announced yesterday it was like late yesterday he announced some of the features that will be on his project so I thought that it was fair to bring that back in he announced that sexy red would be on the project he also has
Starting point is 01:44:40 Leon Thomas on the project I know that that song has been moving a bit I saw Lucky Day there as well and he's you know this project It's just called Brown. A lot of people are excited about a new music video that he released that is in the theme of sinners. So I just wanted to make sure that we gave that some light too. Because I think a lot of what Chris Brown says is when he is doing something. He's dropping the music. All people talk about it are the other things.
Starting point is 01:45:02 Today is his birthday. Today is his birthday as well. Well, I'm doing, in real time, I'm trying to, you know, do the best of both worlds. Have you born day, Breezy. And also Natina. Today is Natina's birthday, too. Are Natina? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:45:16 I'm sorry, Natina. I'm sitting there texting Natina this morning about other things. And you didn't say happy birthday. No. Yes, not at all. My God. That's Natina's birthday too. What you mean?
Starting point is 01:45:25 Not at all. Because I hate when people do that. Like when they're talking to you about one thing and it's something else is happening and then they don't know. Then they find out. Have you texted Natina this morning? I'm not in text with Natina. But happy birthday, Natina if she's watching. Definitely happy birthday.
Starting point is 01:45:38 Yes. Yeah. That's the later. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Yes, Katrina's birthday. I knew. I was just warming you up with other conversation.
Starting point is 01:45:45 That's a damn lie. No. Nothing. All right. Now, you're going to say Top Dog? Yes, it's brought to you by Top Dog Law. So any accident, bigger, small, call Top Dog Law. All right. Everybody else, the People's Choice Mixes up next.
Starting point is 01:45:57 You want to get your request in 800-585-105.15. Let's start off with some Chris Brown. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Shalameen de Guy.
Starting point is 01:46:07 We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. Today is Silence the Shame Day. Ladies and gentlemen, we have Shanty Das. Welcome. Hey. How you feeling?
Starting point is 01:46:16 I'm feeling good. Good. I got a lot to talk about, though. But first, I just want to say, this is my ninth time recording, the breakfast club, for silence to shame in the 10th time, because y'all had me on to talk about my grief guy two years ago. So it's like my 10-year anniversary, too, for being on the breakfast club. Thank y'all. Now, how are you feeling? You kind of studded for a second.
Starting point is 01:46:36 So, you know, I'm at a point, especially from a mental health perspective, where I keep it real. Even I saw you at the Excelebrate Her Congress and congratulations. But, you know, ladies were coming up to me saying, how are you doing it? I'm like, it's tough right now. And so what should be celebratory for 10 years of doing this work being on the front lines, we lost $600,000 of funding two weeks ago. Wow. What happened?
Starting point is 01:46:59 We lost state funding, and we weren't really given a reason. We were just told it was cutbacks, and so we know that some of the state funding comes from federal, but then it trickles down. But to do that to us when we were in the middle of programs, we just graduated our third, who work for our Silence to Shame University initiative, which is our college leadership program. We now have over 70 ambassadors like, y'all, we're doing the work.
Starting point is 01:47:25 Like, how can y'all cut us off a program? We've already, like, we're six months in and you're telling us you're not going to like reimburse us for it because it was a contract, you know, with the state government. Is that a Trump thing? I don't know. I can't say specifically, but I do think it's probably
Starting point is 01:47:40 an effect of what's going on with the administration. Silence to Shame is not the only organization that has lost funding. talking to Dr. Spirit. 75% of her funding is gone. We see mental health organizations merging together. It's a lot easier to merge for-profit companies than nonprofit companies.
Starting point is 01:47:58 But one thing I am standing on y'all is my faith. And so most people know I don't impose my faith on anyone, but I'm trusting God through the storm. And I recently heard this lady talk about eagles and how eagles are in the midst of the storm, but they use the wind shear to propel them up. And I feel like I'm in the middle of the storm
Starting point is 01:48:18 and I'm just going to store like an eagle and figure it out because it's money out there. And more importantly, we're saving lives. You know, we've impacted millions of people virtually through resources, but just physically tens of thousands of people that we've touched through our programs, whether that's our Youth Cope Clinic.
Starting point is 01:48:35 We have a youth advisory council, a parent cafe, parent advisory council, the Science to Shame University. Like, you know, we're doing the work. What I don't understand is if you're already hurting people economically, right? Where do they think people
Starting point is 01:48:50 are going to, you know, go to get help? Exactly. You know what I mean? Like that economic strife causes mental strife, emotional strife, spiritual strife in a lot of ways. And what I tell people, y'all,
Starting point is 01:49:02 people still look at mental health sometimes, like, it's a bad word. I'm like, we all have mental health is how you act and how you feel. And to your point, if your mental health is not right, your finances won't be right. Your health won't be right. You won't be able to get married and have children. and sustain your family household.
Starting point is 01:49:17 Like, it starts with our wellness in the brain. And if we just change this concept, that's why we continue to fight so hard to erase that stigma around it. I'm glad you even said that. I didn't even, I mean, I know you told me that, but I didn't know, I don't think a lot of people know that that type of funding is being cut.
Starting point is 01:49:32 Oh, gosh, yeah. And so, you know, we've been rallying the troops, so we're just trying to find more family foundations, you know, more grant opportunities. The other thing is, it's May, y'all. Most of the grant cycles for 2026 are done. And they're going to 2027. So I'm like, y'all just out here got us, you know, out here looking crazy.
Starting point is 01:49:50 But again, I serve a good God. We have great followers, great supporters. And I do want to celebrate the good work that Silence and Shame has done over the last 10 years. But that's what's so crazy about, like, grief, right? It's like things, because you're probably grieving what you're not able to do. Absolutely. But even when I saw you at Accelerate her, like, we could barely talk to each other because people coming up to you and telling you, like, they're so happy to see you. They're proud of you and all these things that you're doing.
Starting point is 01:50:15 and internally you're like you're literally physically going through something right I had an ugly cry at Accelerate her shout out to Kim Blackwell but and I told her I was like I don't I didn't even know that I was going to make it here but it was just that strength to persevere and to keep going knowing that when I'm getting emails and texts from people like my son is alive because of the work that you do or by you even sharing your stories you know because this started sounds the same started you know for me almost taking my own life in 2015 so we've come too far We've partnered with national groups like Sony Music Publishing, the NFL Players Association, Jack and Gia. We just did a partnership that we launched with the Home Depot backyard in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:50:53 So I'm hoping that some private donor or even just, you know, everyday people who love and support the work that we do or might have a family member that's suffering, you know, might want to support our organization. You know, one thing I really want to focus on me and my good sister, Debbie Brown, was talking about it, especially at the Mental Welfth Expo this year, is we're talking about mental health. we're having all these conversations, right? But are people actually healing? 100%. I'm so glad you said that because I feel like the conversation, especially even with Gen Z, and I know Gen Alpha is too young to really talk about it,
Starting point is 01:51:27 but even though some young kids are starting to talk about it, people are discussing it, but I don't think they're getting the help that they need. That is why organizations, you know, like Silence of Shame and even the work that the Mental Health Coalition does with bringing all the mental health groups together is so super important because it's a lot of, about repetition. It's about you, you gotta keep telling people to check in with your friends,
Starting point is 01:51:49 check in with your mental health. We have to get a checkup every year you go. You get your physical or even this thing, y'all, our cell phone. If you don't charge this puppy at night, what's going to happen? It's going to be diet. It's going to be depleted. So if we don't continue to pour back into our health and wellness on a daily basis, then no, we're not healing. And I think that's what's happening. We're pacifying ourselves. We're putting band-aids on things. So shout out to all the great therapists, psychiatrists, social workers is out there on the front lines. But people, and I talk to people at some companies, they're like, oh, yeah, we have all those resources, but I don't use them. Why?
Starting point is 01:52:23 Well, how can people donate if they need to donate? Yes. So again, today is National Silence to Shane Day 10 years in. So we're doing just a grassroots campaign asking people to donate $10 and then challenge 10 of your friends to give $10. You can text the word silence to 707070. or you can visit silenceashame.com and I would be remiss if I didn't shout out my amazing small team.
Starting point is 01:52:45 Jewel Gidding, Tamir, Megan, Nick and Sonia. We are small but mighty and y'all, we are saving lives. So please, if you have anything, if you don't have it, just post for us. Encourage your friends and families,
Starting point is 01:52:57 celebrities, everyday people, therapists, everybody. Just please help us to keep continuing doing this great work. And this suicide and crisis lifeline, call it 988. You gotta talk about that. And so 988 is a national research.
Starting point is 01:53:09 It has replaced what we knew as a National Suicide Lifeline, 1-800-273 talk. All y'all got to do now literally is pick up the phone, y'all, and dial 9-88. You'll be connected to a trained crisis council that I answer the phone, talk to you, try to understand what you're going through, and push you to resources. And if the local crisis counseling center is not available in your state, guess what? It automatically pushes you to a national number. It worked for me. I called National Suicide Lifeline the night that I was in crisis, and it helped me.
Starting point is 01:53:39 They talked to me for 20 minutes and talked me off the edge. I always wonder if that actually helped people. I actually sat in my car and talked to them. And they saved my life that night. And my sister and my pastor, who happens to be Senator Warnock, it helps, y'all. It works. Don't be afraid to get help. Don't be afraid to reach out and ask for help.
Starting point is 01:54:02 I don't know why I'm getting in motion, but 10 years of fighting this good fight, I did not almost take my own life and start this. to end the work that we're doing. I don't want anybody else to think that suicide is an option. You know, the former lieutenant, Governor of Maryland, who took his own life and his wife's life. My heart goes out to the kids, to everybody that's going through anything. Y'all, help is available. I don't care if you're 10 or 70 or 50.
Starting point is 01:54:30 Where's the camera? I just want to look straight in the camera and tell people it's okay to get help. Silence the shame around your emotions, y'all. It's people out here hurting. high achievers hurting students hurting family members hurting y'all we gotta erase the stigma mental health is no different than physical
Starting point is 01:54:46 health so please please please continue to silence to shame and support our organization and if you want to get my grief guide you can go to shanty das.bv because it's a lot of people out there grieving as well I love y'all so much I just want to thank you all always having me in. Shanti Dazz Silence to Shame Day
Starting point is 01:55:04 make sure you donate if you can now good sister Shanti Daz man make sure you go out there and support everything she's doing with silence to shame. It is one of my favorite mental health organizations out there. They really do the work on the ground, especially in Atlanta, Georgia. All right.
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