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Episode Date: September 29, 2023

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good morning usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Charlamagne Tha God. Peace to the planet. It's Friday. Yes, and we got our special guest host, Lauren LaRosa, with us this morning. Good morning, Lauren. Good morning. What's happening? Another day to serve, man. Happy Friday.

That is right. I'm getting settled in here. I ain't even light my candles. I ain't say my prayers yet. Nothing. Shout out to everybody in Alabama. I'm in Alabama. You know, each and every year I go on this HBCU tour where I try to touch different HBCUs

and talk to different people, whether it's the band, whether it's the football team, whether it's teachers, professors, whoever it may be, just to try to put people on an HBCU experience they might have never seen. You know, coming from New York, there is no close HBCU in the vicinity. The closest one, I think, is you have to go to Cheney or Morgan State, which is three hours away. So we didn't get that experience. So I'm trying to show that experience to a lot of these younger students.

So we're doing interviews and just trying to create awareness to these HBCUs. So this weekend I'm at Alabama A&M. So salute to them. Drop a bomb for Alabama A&M. Drop one of the clues bombs for Alabama A&M. As a Dominican who grew up in New York, what made you want

to go to an HBCU? Actually, it was a different world. Watching a different world as a kid growing up, just seeing the college life was great. And since I'm not Dominican,

I'm black, my parents' dream was for me to go to an HBCU. They never got an opportunity to go to college. They couldn't afford it. So for their child, they wanted me

to go to an HBCU. So that was their dream for me to go to college. And not just any college, but an their child, they wanted me to go to HBCU. So that was their dream for me to go to college and not just any college, but HBCU. And that's why I went to Hampton. Well, that's good. See, that shows the power

of entertainment. Correct. Mine's just College Hill. Yours was College Hill? College Hill. I mean, that, yeah. See, that shows as well to the generations.

But College Hill, I even was like, I need to go to the schools that they went to. I didn't end up at those schools. And College Hill been around that long? Wow. What you mean?

You know what I'm saying? Wow. You know what I'm saying? College Hill has been around long enough to impact somebody wanting to go to college. Oh, who are you, Lauren? I'm 31. 31. So it's been around?

Wow. I was at College Hill when we were in high school. I didn't realize College hell was on that long. I don't like that you keep saying that that long. He been stabbing you all week. I am not. That's not a stab. I really didn't think college hell had been on for over a decade.

Damn. Wow. Well, DJ Envy, I'm so happy you're doing that. Let's stay positive this morning. You can go to HBCU, right? I didn't go to college at all. Okay. I graduated in night school.

Two years behind schedule. I was supposed to all. Okay. I graduated in night school. Two years behind schedule. I was supposed to graduate in 1996. I graduated in 1998. Night school been around that long? No, for real. I didn't know night school was around in the ancient Roman. Wow. The 1900s?

Wow. Yes, it was around in the 1900s. And you know what's so funny? Omar Epps is going to be here this morning. Omar Epps is joining us this morning. That's right. His second book, Nubia the Reckoning, is out. And he actually talks about that.

He talks about the fact of entertainment and the influence and impact it can have on people in that way. Yeah, I posted a tease yesterday and I forgot that Omar Epps actually came to my mother's house and was rapping when he used to rap back in the day. He used to do a freestyle. And I'm just thinking to myself, I had all these people come in my mama's basement and they would be rapping from Fabulous to Freeway BDC to Omar Epps. What did I tell you at the beginning of this week, DJ Envy? What?

We need a series, something from you. Like, there's a lot of history there. So what they did to Rap City and Tiggie used to talk about mama upstairs, that's how my basement really was. Like, mama was upstairs cooking. Like, mama was about mama upstairs. That's how my basement really was. Like mama was upstairs cooking. Like mama was upstairs cleaning. Like that's how it really was.

So if anybody got any, any new candles in the back, you can bring them. They don't make candles like they used to. I feel like, I feel like my grandma didn't have candles that lasted for years. These candles don't even last days. My grandma and them didn't used to light candles.

It just sat in the room that you weren't allowed to sit in. The room with the plastic in it. Lord have mercy. Let's get the show cracking. We got front page news next. Teslin Figaro will be joining us. It's a Friday and it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Morning, everybody. It's D.E.J. Envy. Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. We got Lauren LaRosa, our special guest host in the building. And let's get into some front page news. What up, Tiz?

What's going on, DJ? MV, Lauren, and Charlamagne Tha God. Good morning, Breakfast Club family. Good morning. All right, well, let's jump right into it. Let's talk about Congress now. They got three days to make a deal. Three days to make a deal.

Unfortunately, we have seen this repeat over and over and over, and they still do not have a plan. The government funds run out at 12.01 Eastern Sunday. Now, Democrats are presenting a united front, but the problem is on the Republican side. There's some internal fighting. They're calling it a Republican civil war because some conservatives, House Republicans, are pushing for deep spending cuts, even threatening to oust Speaker Kevin McCarthy. You may remember, for those who followed this in the very beginning, when Speaker McCarthy was put in his seat, they had told him, you know, basically they would oust him if he got too cozy with Democrats. And so they are definitely making that threat again, saying that if he makes a deal, they

will certainly be trying to remove him from his seat. He was asked how he felt about it. Take a listen to his response. How much of the fact that if you do cut a deal with Democrats, there could be a vote to push you out. How much is that driving your decision making right now? Nothing drives my decision. If that was driving my decision, wouldn't that have driven my decision making 15 times before? But you could have cut a deal with Democrats and that could be the end of it.

Did I cut a deal then? No, it could be over. Did I cut a deal then? No, it could be over. Did I cut a deal then? When, when? When I went 15 rounds. No, I'm talking about right now. But let me explain something to you. I'm no different than I was then or before.

My whole focus, what's in my mind, what drives me is the American people. Yeah, right. I'm not worried if someone makes a motion. I'm not worried if somebody votes no. It's a damn shame that these folks are willing to let the government shut down for political reasons. I don't believe they'll let it happen, but it's just the fact they are willing to do it shows that none of these people are really as America first as they claim to be. Claiming to be about the American people? Yeah, right. And he's lying, talking about, you know, I'm not going to do anything because I'm worried about the people, because actually the impeachment hearing, which we'll talk about in the second hour, was absolutely done because they told him he needed to do it or he would lose his position.

So, you know, we always say this on the Republican side. They they push a hard line. So, yeah, there's just a few of them. And they're really, really holding the line to say you do this or else. So it's going to be interesting to see, you know, how they're going to move this weekend. All right. Well, that is front page news. Now, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.

If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. 800-585-1051. Get it off your chest. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest. Wake up.

Whether you're mad or blessed. It's time to get it off your chest. Wake up! Whether you're mad or blessed. It's time to get up and get something. Call up now. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Yo, DJ Envy, what's good? It's Coach Davis, Charlamagne, and God. How y'all doing?

To the guests, good morning, young lady. How you doing? What up, Coach? Yo, I'm good, I'm lady. How you doing? Good morning. I'm doing good. How are you? What up, coach? Yo, I'm good. I'm good. Hey, listen, man. You know, like I said, September's a lovely month. Not only did I celebrate my birthday, but I had my wedding anniversary 21 years.

And tomorrow is my son's 25th birthday, man. You know, I just wanted to shout my son, Amir Davis. I love you, boy. You know, I also wanted to shout my son amir davis i love you boy you know um i also wanted to talk about yesterday i heard y'all this morning um you know before y'all get on air about the body count i really wasn't able to get through yesterday and i want to say this right when we deal when we deal with you know sexual acts and things like that, that's a spiritual act, right? And to be engaged in such behavior from a spiritual standpoint, emotions, you're dealing with a lot of trauma and things that go along with that because we're entering into each other, you understand?

Especially for men, when you're entering into a woman. And I say that because as my son, right, my son turned 25, one of the things like Charlamagne said, you know, I impress and I really do. I impress upon my son. Because you can doesn't mean that you have to. You understand what I'm saying? When you're dating these young ladies, you know, you don't have to have it in mind that you're going to smash and take her down.

That's not the goal, you know. And, you know, I have a daughter as well. She's 21. She's 20 years old. So, Envy, I understand you, brother. You know, you look at things. Like, it's funny, I had this conversation with my brother yesterday. Yo, I really sat back and I thought about in my 15 years what my body count is what my personal body count is and I'm gonna keep it a stack no I was not uh Charlemagne I'm gonna keep it a stack with you in my 50 years I can say maybe 20 females I'm gonna keep it a buck maybe 20 females in my 50 years and I'm talking college, you understand what I'm saying, now, I wasn't, I wasn't out there like that, yeah, I got my experience, but

I always felt, man, this is, this thing is, is, like you said, it's your body, it's a temple, you know, from a male and a female standpoint, but I want to leave y'all with this, last time I was talking to y'all, I was mentioning about the ABA and the Coney Island Thunder. Well, I'm the general manager of that organization, and we got a little quick

shout-out on a drink chance when Norman was talking to Miss Bleak. And Norman alluded to it, but Miss Bleak kept talking about the Nets. But I want to let y'all know, man, on the 28th is our opening day. I would love to invite y'all two gentlemen out to come watch history being made in Coney Island, Brooklyn, and Kingsborough Community College.

Yo, the thunder is here, and we're going to take Brooklyn and New York by storm, man. And I want y'all to have a great day, gentlemen. Thank y'all for allowing me to get on the phone and talk to y'all. Thanks for the invite, brother. $10,000 for that commercial you just did, okay? You stupid. But thanks for that invite, brother, and good luck for the season. Get it off your chest.

800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Wake it up. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.

Hello, who's this? It's Jay. What up, Envy? What up, Solomon? It's God. Peace, King. What up, brother? Get it off your chest.

No, I'm chilling. Yo, Envy, this is for you, man. Please don't play no trash music this morning, man.'s God. Peace, King. What up, brother? Get it off your chest. No, I'm chilling. Yo, Envy, this is for you, man. Please don't play no trash music this morning, man. Don't do it, man. No more Pumpkin Spice, Little Azalea, or Sexy Boney Red, whatever her name is. No more. Please, we done, man.

Please. Sexy Boney Red. Yeah, you know what? I thought you was talking to Envy. I was like, why you talking to Envy, Pumpkin Spice, and Sexy Boney Red? Yeah, I'm talking to Envy, Charlamagne. You thought I'm talking to Envy? You sounded crazy. He was like, yo, Envy, yo, you Sexy Pumpkin Spice, you Sexy Red. That's what it sounded like you said. Nah, Charlamagne. I'm talking... Oh, you thought I'm talking to Envy? That sounded crazy. He was like, yo, Envy, yo, you sexy pumpkin spice.

You sexy... That's what it sounded like you said. Nah, nah, Lord. Nah, nah, Charlamagne. What you got against the new girls? I'm serious. Man, they way... Listen, without the beats, they can't rap.

Damn. Take off the beats. Do me a favor. Take off the beats, right? And just listen to what they say. They can't say... They don't say nothing, man. Sexy rap be rapping.

That ain't for us, my friend. What? Sexy rap be rapping. I hear you. us, my friend. What? Sexy Rad be rapping. I hear you. What she be rapping about? I'm waiting. I mean, sex and all of that stuff. But she be, like, I could take a beat away from her and still listen.

Salute to Sukiyana. Sukiyana changed her dietary habits. I don't know if y'all saw that. I saw it. Wow. You talking about that? Quick question. Quick question.

Would you let your daughter listen to sexy rap music? My daughter's 15. She probably is listening to sexy rap music. I walked in her room the other day. She had King Von playing. Oh. Oh, man. Well, anyway, fellas, have a good day, man.

Don't talk to me like I failed as a father. All right, Jay. Damn. Well, Jay, I don't know if you know, but we don't pick the records up here, Jay. I only pick my mix, Jay. So if you hear something that you love but we don't pick the records up here, Jay. I only pick my mix, Jay. So if you hear something that you love or you don't like, that's not on me. And by the way, why do us old heads act like our generation was any better? Like, knock it off.

Well, yeah, some people do. We acting like the Lil' Kims of the world and the Trinas and the Foxy Browns weren't as ratchet and sexual as them. Like, cut it out. What they always try to do is minimize it by saying, like he said, if you take the beat away, they can't rap.

What are they even talking about? And it's like, some of them girls, sexy rap can really flow. I just think it gets overlooked because of what she's talking about. All right. But I always felt like that

about people like Kim. Kim can rap her ass off. People debated whether she could rap or not in your time. I've never heard about that. She said in your time. Yeah, because you were in your time. I don't know if they debated whether she could rap or not in your time i've never i don't know i don't know if they debated whether she could rap but i think that uh because of the content

people didn't pay attention to her talent as much as they should i could that's what i think hello who's this dj envy charlamagne the god lord good morning good morning og rob og rob what up rob you got some balls for us? It's bar time? You already know. It's Friday, man. It's bar time. Let's get right into it. Check it out.

I said, yo, ain't no need for the introductions. Your filler urges. Google me. Zoned out a part of that triangle philosophy. I put them out. Or if one strike, mama mentality. Make them believers. Show them this dedication is nonstop.

A profile visitor. Shock volume. And let it pop We dream big Executed for Frank White St. James Mafia style Weapon to pinstripe You know the drill Brooklyn bomb calm It's a takeover

Heavy shot intended to land Leaving what's left over In due time Can't be confined Stuck in the hood for long Soon as tour budget Are manifesting The periods form

Who wants to smoke Pup in the deadly stand That I Soon as tour budget are manifesting the peerage form, who wants to smoke? Pup in the deadly strand that I'm rolling with. Can't be passed by any bill. Congress is coded with them soldier bills. Ran through the street corners and projects. Flipping capsules in the process. Watch the die like I'm one of one. Producing this hip hop? It's a new

day. The main source. I'm large in my stature. Check the professor play. OG. I got my Timbs on today too? Hey, OG Rob. Okay, okay, okay, OG, I got some bars. I got some bars. Now let's get it all in perspective.

For all y'all enjoyment, a song you can step with. Y'all employing me to bring rap justice, but I ain't five, yo. Lauren LaRosa, you know it's time, yo. Charlamagne, stop grabbing my ass. You better pass because if you don't, you know, it's time yo Charlamagne stop grabbing my ass You better pass because if you don't you're trash All I do is spark colorism all I do is spark colorism no rapper can rap quite like I can I take a beige man And put his head in the scan No, hold on. You wrote that? Or that's not on the top. Boo! It's nowhere. Boo! That was LJ Cool J in a little bit somewhere. Boo!

You had that wrote in. That's LLJ Cool J. That's what that was right there. No. LLJ Cool J. White like I can. I take a beige man and put his head in the sand. Dark skin mafioso.

A light skin. Make you boo all light skin and want to be dark. Because all I do is spark colorism. All I do is spark colorism. Hey. Nobody with me is spark colorism. Hey, nobody with me? Boo. So if you put a light-skinned

dude's face in the sand and his ass is up, that's what you're trying to say, his face down, ass up? This is disgusting. Are y'all throwing shots

at each other right now? This is disgusting. There was no need for that. OG Rob, was there any need for that this morning? Get a room. Hey,

listen, this is what we do, man. Y'all already know what it is, man. I appreciate y'all all the time, man. Thank you. I appreciate you. I love it.

I love it. Y'all have a good weekend. Y'all be safe. You and the family. Peace and blessings. Same to you, brother. All right. Get it off your chest.

800-585-1051. Now, when we come back, we got your rumor report. Laura LaRosa, what are we talking about? Yes, we are talking about Jeannie Mai and Jeezy. They are living under the same roof still according to reports and it is very awkward okay all right we'll get into that when we come back don't move it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club morning everybody it's dj nv charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club lauren la rosa

our special guest host is here this morning yes and let's get to the rumors i think a lot of people will recognize the voice from the name on the breakfast club lauren came in hot you know know, I came in telling the truth. So Jeezy and Jeannie Mai are still living together, even amid the divorce. And it is a very uncomfortable situation. So TMZ reported this story. Aw. Jeezy and Jeannie are still living together in Georgia. But there's very little interaction going on between them.

You guys know that they have a one-year-old daughter together. And sources are saying that, you know, that right now is their main focus. They don't really interact as much, but they do cross paths when they go, you know, throughout the house. But that's about it. Now, they also note that the divorce came as a complete shock to Jeannie, which had been reported prior to. So, but because of that, there's a lot of like anxiety and tension in the home. And at one point genie my was the center of cheating rumors people thought that she had began uh dating um access hollywood host

mario lopez but a source close to genie um confirmed that that was not true so who are the sources that are reporting this and why do we think it's genie my family i don't know who the sources are that are reporting this and if I knew, I couldn't tell you because as a journalist, you never out your sources. Well, that's good. Well, I will say this. The fact that they're still

in the house together shows a lot, right? Because if they really, if they hated each other and really couldn't get along, they wouldn't be in the house with each other. We don't know if they're

in the house together. These are just sources. These are just rumors. I believe Lauren. It's not from Lauren. Lauren's just reporting. Yes, I didn't break this story. i don't work at tmz anymore but i will say that i mean they wouldn't have ran with this if they didn't confirm it in some way right and if it's not true somebody's going to come out and say that is not true because it's a major story because we

were trying to figure out what was going on there were some photos though i think it was like last week gg still had on the wedding ring and people were like what's going on. There were some photos, though. I think it was like last week. Gigi still had on the wedding ring and people were like, what's going on? So. The worst thing about situations like this, there's no privacy because whoever you got in the house, it could be,

you know, nannies. It could be a big teeter that do your lawn. Whatever it is, whatever they see, they're going to report to outlets if there's a little change for it.

Well, as I mean, OK, so. You get paid for those kind of stories, right, Lauren? You don't. They don't pay for information. Oh, you don't pay for information no people just doing that out the goodness of their heart when you get at your job it's not even goodness no no i'm talking about the people who like report it oh i mean yeah yeah they got to get some money people have all

different reasons no but when i was no you don't they don't pay for information why do people think that do you guys understand how that's Lauren. That's why we're asking. Like, I don't work there anymore, but I do want people to understand that they are really good at what they do. At that time,

when I was there, no, there was no information being paid for at all. You just have people and things and, you know, relationships and you develop, you know, stories from that.

Yeah, I just wonder what would be the benefit for somebody to tell that. You know what I mean? Right. I can't answer that because each person's benefit might be different but you know sometimes i think people just want to feel important maybe or included but they never mention the name though like if it's a cleaning person or if it's a nanny or if it's the landscape but they don't mention the name so it's like what do you get out of it if it's not finances they probably just get off hearing the story like knowing that i'm the person that delivered it

you never know who this or whether it's who the source is though so who depending on who the source is the the what i get from it changes right because if it is something like that like a nanny a makeup artist or whatever maybe they're just wanting to be involved or if it's someone that like if you know celebrities put stories out too if it's like that where it's it's some coming from someone's team maybe they're trying to control a narrative like there's so many different reasons you can't some people don't need credit for the drama they stir up they just like to you know stir it up yeah set things on fire and walk away and well i think i think this situation was on fire from the minute that the divorce papers were filed like that's a huge story so at this point you already in the fire you might as well like you know extinguish what's around you you never know i don't know i don't

know where the story came from but i will say i thought when i read this i thought like is there hope then because they're still in the same house because why would they need to still be in the same house outside of their kid but they can both afford to not be in the same house it's just all rumor and speculation okay i don't know well yeah so on to the next rumor and speculation this stuff can is real y'all you better not say that you better say allegedly allegedly according to sources yes um so moving on to the next story ice spice ice spice sat down with a variety magazine and she talked about um the fact that you know as she's come up you know ice spice has been coined as like one of the princesses of rap and she's had like such a big

debut that she says behind the scenes a lot of the rap girls are not nice she says that people always want to come off as a girl's girl and that's like the trendy thing to do now but it's not always like that so she says it's a competition at the end of the day uh people want to be all i'm a girl's girl but then behind the scenes they're being can i say the word be yes you can oh they're being bitches basically we're here the girls are doing amazing i'm excited to see i feel like this that word you can't say that word who's gonna put that better and who's gonna be sorry I don't know what I can and can't say. Can I get the paper? Oh, you know what?

You're right. Because it's not in front of you today. Yeah. I normally ask for it, but... Okay, thank you. There you go. Thank you, Ray. She also added that she wanted to be transparent

and she knows that it's a competition, but she knows that sometimes people are checking on her Wait, what? Basically, welcome to the industry uh ice spice okay she's all over the place with this it's like she's saying people are being like not nice to her behind the scenes but then she's like but it's okay though i get it it's competition i think it's okay to talk about it it's like which side are you like i get i get i get exactly what she's saying because she's saying that you know you got these people out here who act like they they down for you and they out here who act like they down for you and they down for the culture

and they down for women. But then when you meet them, you realize that's not really the case. She's saying the industry is fake, which people have been saying since the beginning of the industry. The industry is fake, not just for women, for men, too.

I'm sure there's guys, oh, yeah, that's my guy. And then behind the scenes, it's, I hate that dude. She said that, too, about the guys, too. But I just feel like, well, if that's the case, like pick a side.

Like, are you okay with that or are you not okay with it? I don't think you have a choice but to deal with it. Yeah, you just gotta understand it and live with it. That's right. You're in this business.

You're in this game and that's just how people are. So now you just gotta move accordingly. Very much so. Because it gets a little crazy. Especially when you're on top like her.

She's huge right now. So moving on, Ty Tyrese Tyrese is back in the rumor report as well so Home Depot let me see how Envy handles this let me sit back and watch go ahead Lauren go ahead Envy you okay I'm great oh why'd you do that to him I'm blessed oh my god okay so you guys remember um Tyrese came out and said that Home Depot was racist and he filed a one million dollar uh racial profiling and discrimination lawsuit. So Home Depot has now responded in legal docs. And Home Depot is saying that Tyrese made a series of false and misleading claims in that $1 million racial profiling and discrimination lawsuit that he filed last month.

They're saying that the company has surveillance footage from the incident that contradicts a number of claims that Tyrese made so the the first claim is is saying that the footage actually shows him at the counter he had I guess begin to ring up his stuff he then went back to shop for more stuff and it returned 25 minutes later so that's why all of his items were cleared uh from the checkout area um and he they also said that the cashier avoided the items um that were being presented because they wanted to help other customers in his absence you know how that goes like when you're shopping for stuff they can't like hold the lineup for too long they said that he was gone for 25 minutes so they had to do that to move on. They also say that Tyrese was very misleading by this in his complaint,

that a computer glitch caused the transaction to be delayed. So basically, they're saying everything that he claimed was not true. So the computer glitch, why the items were cleared from the front, I guess the amount of time he took to leave and come back to the register. Basically, Home Depot said, you ain't getting this $450 million you're suing for that's what they're trying to say yeah but with stuff like this i i understand that you base it off a fact right when you're trying to decide in court but if he felt that way how do you tell him that no you you can't feel that i mean that's why he's filing the lawsuit yeah that's why you got it they're saying they're signing court so now he got to prove his signing

court that's all but one of these people is going to win, right? And it doesn't sound like they're fighting back hard. So I don't know if it'll be him. I'm going to be honest with you. But he still feels that way. You want to know how I really feel? You ever walked in a store and felt like something happened to you? And then you're like, did it or did it not? You got to make sure it's just not your feelings.

But you know what? I want to see Tyrese with $450 million. Wouldn't that be amazing? Tyrese Gibson with $450 million. Wouldn't y'all like to see that? Why are you smart? Like, what you getting at here? I'm not getting at nothing. Wouldn't it be amazing to see Tyrese with $450 million? You know how entertaining that would be? Are you stirring a pot right now? What pot are you stirring?

I'm not stirring any pot. I want to see Tyrese get his money if he is deserving of said money. I think it'd be nice to see anybody with $450 million that look like us. Honestly. He don't look like you. You Dominican. I'm not Dominican. I'm black, sir. I'm black. I don't know if you're black, sir.

Over here. Okay. Well, I will see. I'm sure his attorneys will be filing some responses. So you got anything? Nothing else? Nope.

God bless, Tyrese. You said there's surveillance cameras, right? You said that. You said you ain't got nothing else now. Leave it at God bless. I just said God bless.

I just said God bless. I just asked a question. I said God bless. We don't need nothing but no surveillance cameras. i just said god bless i just said god bless so just ask the question we don't need nothing about no surveillance cameras you said i just said god bless i'm just asking i can't wait i can't wait till the shoe on the other foot the shoe's always on the other foot i ain't even got no shoes lord okay i am the shoe you mean them slides i am the shoe exactly okay all right lord have mercy well that that's the rumors for right now. God. Envy, don't let him get to you. God bless.

You got the things you're doing today. I'm just saying God bless. I can't say God bless. Leave it at that. That's all I said. Move on. Front page news. That's right.

Front page news is next. No more Eps will be joining us. Oh, my goodness. This is a great Friday. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Now, Lauren LaRose is our special guest host this morning. And Taz is here. Good morning, Taz. Good morning, DJ Envy. Good morning, Lauren. Good morning, Charlamagne Tha God. Good morning. Let's jump right into it.

All my NFL fans, Detroit Lions beat the Packers last night 34-20. All right. Well, let's jump right into it all my nfl fans detroit lions beat the packers last night 34 20 all right well let's talk let's jump right into it let's talk about the first impeachment yeah the first impeachment hearing uh was no information on president joe biden uh they started this yesterday their star witnesses testifying that they lacked proof that he committed an impeachable offense again didn't bring any information about his conduct or any support for Republicans' accusations that he entered into corrupt overseas business deals. And Texas Representative Jasmine Crockett had a word about it.

Let's take a listen. When we're talking about somebody that's committed high crimes, it's at least indictments. Let's say 32 counts related to unauthorized retention of national security secrets, seven counts related to obstructing the investigation, three false statements, one count of conspiracy to defraud the United States, falsifying business records, conspiracy to defraud the United States, two counts related to efforts to obstruct the vote certification proceedings, one count of conspiracy to violate civil rights, 23 counts related to forgery or false document statements,

eight counts related to soliciting, and I could go on because he's got 91 counts pending right now. But I will tell you what the president has been guilty of. He has unfortunately been guilty of loving his child unconditionally, and that is the only evidence that they have brought forward. Until they find some evidence, we need to get back to the people's work, which means keeping this government open so that people don't go hungry in the streets of the united states and i will yield charlamagne i guess she told them yeah she she sounded like she uh she know what the hell she's talking about i like her well she told him what time it was uh when she talks about you know how

we need to be focused on uh what is happening in this government shutdown. She is absolutely right where the focus should be. I didn't mention this last hour, but I want to just kind of throw that in so people can know the severity of what we're talking about. The shutdown FEMA is actually cutting disaster aid right now, you know, as they're preparing for this shutdown. I cut about eight billion dollars. So there's a disaster and folks need help. You know, that emergency help is going to hit different when you don't have the money. We also talked about earlier in the week

when I covered this story, what actually happens with the shutdown. So we're talking about furloughing employees, employees not being paid, having to get paid on the back end. Some will never get paid at all if they're not essential employees. And we're talking about jobs possibly being cut as well so the shutdown is a real thing

it does affect uh the american people it trickles down especially when we talk about removing a lot of those programs so this is a real thing that people should be paying attention to this weekend and i will have an update on monday yeah i mean nothing about this government shutdown says i care about people you cannot say you care about the american people if you are willing to let this happen in any way shape or form especially during right now whenever inflation and all that stuff says I care about people. You cannot say you care about the American people if you are willing to let this happen in any way, shape, or form. Especially doing right now with inflation and all that stuff.

That's right. And I have a friend, when we reported this earlier this week, when we talked about it, one of my friends reached out to me and she was talking to me

about what she's going through. She's preparing for it and she is not going to be paid. She has a son. She has a home. Like, you know what I mean? And she's literally preparing to go without pay

and will still have to work. Wow. Yep. And and see that's that's the key i want people to know like then some of these people will not be paid but still have to work you know so imagine that was crazy yeah imagine that you know just going in every week and still you know having having to wait on your check so that's that that doesn't feel good at all absolutely well now let's jump into donald trump what's going on with donald trump yeah just want to give a quick update uh on the trump racketeering case in Georgia that we've been covering here on Front Page News.

A decision was made after Mark Meadows, his former chief of staff, tried to get his case, because remember, it's several of them that are on trial or will be on trial. He tried to get his case moved to the federal court. So once Trump attorneys seeing that that did not work, then now they said they're just going to go ahead and let it stay in the state court so once trump attorney seeing that that did not work then now they said they're just going to go ahead and let it stay in the state court in atlanta a lot of people were shocked about this because he was really pushing for the federal uh for this to be a federal case you may wonder why it is because federal probably would have again just assumption would have benefited him more once it would at one it would not have been televised and two they believe he would have had a possibility for a better jury. But now they're saying, hey, we're going to keep it in state court and it will be televised, unlike in federal court, which I think is a good thing.

So maybe Trump's folks think is a good thing now as well. His attorney said the decision is based on his well-founded confidence that the honorable court intends to fulfill and completely protect his constitutional right to a fair trial so fannie willis will be moving forward on that and i look forward to covering that here right on front page news go ahead fannie mae all right fannie you like calling her fannie fannie mae don't play you hear me well that is front page news thank you tiz hold on let me ask you this though before we go charlamagne and DJ Envy and Lauren. Them televising it, you think that's going to benefit? Whose side do you think is going to benefit more? You think Trump is using that to get his people turned up?

Of course it benefits Trump. I think anything with television or any type of microphone whatsoever benefits him because he's the most entertaining. And they're going to put on a show. I think y'all forget that Donald Trump is a celebrity. He was he's always been a celebrity. He was the executive producer of Celebrity Apprentice. He loves the fact that there's going to be cameras in the courtroom. Of course, it's going to benefit him.

A hundred percent. The Democrats love it because they say, let's lay it out and look at all the evidence and let the people decide, you know, if it's a good case or not. So they decided because nobody cares about facts in this generation. They care about feelings. There's nothing you're going to say to change people's minds about Donald Trump. And Donald Trump knows that he told us that years ago, Donald Trump said, I can go out in the middle of the street, shoot somebody in the head and wouldn't lose any supporters or anything of that nature. He knows this. Nobody cares about the truth when the lie is more entertaining.

Y'all putting cameras in that courtroom. Y'all giving Donald Trump a chance to entertain. And God damn it. He he gonna put on a show if y'all thought nino brown testimony was good at the end of new jack city y'all wait till donald trump get in that courtroom okay i can't wait all right well that is front page news thank you tes you have a great weekend you too as well thank you oh and make sure you subscribe to tesla figaro's podcast discreet shot no chaser podcast on the black effect iHeartRadio podcast network and follow at Teslin Figaro

on all social media platforms. All right. Now, when we come back, the legend Omar Epps will be joining us. We're going to kick it with Omar Epps. He has a new book. It's called Newbie of the Reckoning.

Yep. And we're going to kick it with him next. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. sequel to Nubia the Awakening yes did you you did you always have in your mind to do a series absolutely okay absolutely from day one which um you know the the the first the response to the first book was great and uh we had this in the tuck so just cooking up what is Nubia the Reckoning

about Nubia the Reckoning so basically Nubia the Nubia series is about um you know it's a dystopian um futuristic sci-fi that follows these three teenagers, these three Nubian teenagers in what's a new New York. It's 100 years from now. And basically their powers start to sprout and it's connected to their heritage. But they don't know that because they weren't told by their parents. So they, you know, adolescence is awkward. It was awkward age for all of us. You're trying to figure stuff out.

And then you throw that on the table. And in the reckoning, they realize what their abilities are and then it's a discussion of what are they going to do with them? Are they going to use them for good or bad? Now, for people that don't know you up here before talking about it, where did this idea even come from? It came from me. I had the idea for a long time, for about 15 years. We live in such a tumultuous world, man. It just seems just so chaotic.

And one day I was just thinking to myself, like, what if love itself was illegal? Like, what if it was illegal to love? And then what if love was reborn through this 13-year-old kid who doesn't know he's loved? Wow. So that's sort of the essence of what i was trying to capture and then as i started to think more about it and unearth it you know it became these this this cast of um these three teenagers you know i was picturing we always think about these cataclysms and the world is changing and i'm like well there's going to be life after that

there's some form so what does that look like? Because for those kids in 100 years from now, whatever is happening for that generation will be normal to them because that'll be the only world they know. Right. So they're dealing with it accordingly. And OK, so this technology is going to be like past what we can fathom now. What does that look like and then i think there will be a rudimentary element um because the basic necessities of human life is like food clothes and shelter that's never gonna go away so there's always gonna be a like yeah you're super high tech but i'm over here analoging it and and killing it and so what happens when those um those worlds meet and then what are the human themes that seem to transcend time so though Nubia takes place in the future a lot of the themes that we explore if you go 100 years prior

to now and 100 years before that you still were dealing with classes and racism sexism all of them isms and they and so what I'm trying to do part of what I'm trying to do with the book is leave a breadcrumb trail for the now generation to say, hey, we did it for a long time a certain way and we still keep getting the same results. So maybe you guys can flip that moving forward so that we can progress and get better. What what isms like you talk a lot about the isms? What ism specifically in this book do you tackle? Classism. I mean, we tackle even immigration to a point. Definitely racism, sexism.

Because the Nubians are displaced people. Their island nation was destroyed, or so they think. Stay tuned. And so they're in a new, what I'm calling a new New York. And they are sort of the have nots. And so the people who were here in the color has nothing to do with it. They're just sort of native New Yorkers, I guess, you know, they they feel a way about who these new people. And then as the power start to sprout, they're like, who are these new kids and why do they have a seat at our table you know just yeah how society seems to be which is it's always been perplexing to me because

i look at life like this if a rock big enough hits this planet it ain't gonna matter if you got a million dollars or a dollar everybody gonna be in the same boat i think about that when we're on planes you see what i'm saying if you're in first class the plane goes down but you still sit in first class though sure well it's free drinks yeah no but if the plane goes down everybody's dying regardless of what class you're in leg room honestly but there's a lot of parallels to real life like when i'm listening to you talk i'm like wow i remember thinking that like gentrification for instance right when people come into your neighborhood you're like yo who are these people how did they just pull up with all this power and like whatever how did you know what from real life you wanted to put in this specific book it's what felt natural to me um i didn't set out to write a afro futuristic young adult sci-fi book i just

i didn't even know that was a genre i'm'm a creative. So I just had an idea and I just started digging and digging and writing and writing. And so once it was coming to be, you know, as I got with a publisher and everything like that, they were like, oh, it's in this box. And I'm like, I didn't even know that was a thing. So to your question in terms of why tackle certain themes, it's what felt natural to me I remember vividly being 12 13 14 15 and the things that influenced me for better and for worse you know I mean I think when you're at that age a lot of what you are is a you're a product of your environment and programming right so you're taught one thing at home and then you in school

for eight hours and then you're in the world and you start to see the the the paradox of life the contradictions of life and and then it and then in those experiences you sort of discover who you are so like for me growing up I was revolutionary like for those that remember to show good times, I was like Michael. I had a conviction on what I believe very young. So I wasn't easily persuaded or influenced by external forces other than what was at home. And the idea of being prideful about who I am and what I come from meant something to me at a really young age and that's why I threw out hopefully not just my life but in my career being in a career field that deals with fame and people see you I was very acutely aware of how the images that I portray on screen can be ingested oh yeah you see what I'm saying? Because when I was a kid,

there was a difference between good times and the Cosby show. Good times was dope to me because their father was in the household and you're talking to a kid that was raised by his moms with no pops.

So I saw that, but then it was always like, but he never gets the job. Right. So it was always, you left like on a downtick. When Cosby show came along, I was like, hmm. They were up tick when cosby's show came along i was like they were up like she's a lawyer he's a doctor they always got food on the table they always

laughing even when there's a lesson to be learned and they find a fun way that i was like i want to do that when i started having kids i want to that's the model and this is nothing against anyone in my family or extended family but seeing that imagery every thursday meant something to me absolutely you know and i didn't really realize it until i became a father and was building my own family how much influence that had on me but but i knew a little nugget of you know what when i was young and and you know the movies were coming like every other day i was like i was saying no more than i was saying yes just because of what the script was and you know the movies were coming like every other day I was like I was saying no more than I was saying yes just because of what the script was and you knew what it was exactly and it's nothing against those other people who may have taken those roles or been involved in those

projects I get it we all trying to work at the end of the day but I I just took the long road you know like nah I want to do things that I connect to that can hopefully transcend time. But that hit, you know, that stick, it might not be the big shiny thing when it comes out, but it's just going to stick. Like, you know, when you think about John Singleton and you see how many issues he was talking about in it it's really scary and how many things correlate to exactly now and this was back then so it was going way over a lot of people's heads you know what i mean you're talking about obviously you're talking about the racism but you're talking about mass shooting you're talking about um protecting women you know uh gender identity like all of these things are in that piece. Like you said earlier, none of those things changed.

And that's why I say it's scary. It's scary, you know what I mean? But art has that ability. A lot of people, you always say, does art imitate life or life imitate art? I think the saying sort of is oxymoron. It gives and takes. It's both.

You know, sometimes life inspires art and sometimes art definitely can inspire your life. You know what I mean? That's why you can hear a song or you can see a piece or there's an art to food. You can eat a meal that will bring a tear to your eye because it brings you back to an immediate place. That was yesterday. You see what I'm saying? The oxtails, yes. There you go. All right, we got more with Omar Epps. When we come back, don't move. It was yesterday. You see what I'm saying? The oxtails, yes. There you go.

All right, we got more with Omar Epps. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Also, Ebony K. Williams will be joining us next hour. We're going to be taking your calls. 800-585-1051. We had a discussion yesterday about some comments she made.

And let's have a discussion, all right? So we want you to call in. Ebony K. Williams will be joining us. 800-585-1051 if you want to chop it up with her. If you want to talk to her. And then we got more Omar Epps when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRosa is our special guest. And we have Omar Epps here. But also, Ebony K. Williams will be joining us next hour. And we talked about some statements that she said. And Lauren LaRosa was talking about it.

A lot of people were very passionate. So she's here to discuss. So if you want to talk to Ebony K. Williams, she's going to be joining us. You can get on the phone lines right now, 800-585-1051. But right now, let's get back into our conversation with Omar Epps. All right, Charlamagne? You know, I love what you just said about the movies. Because I think about it even with a series like this.

Because I saw you said you wish this book existed when you was a child. Yeah. I don't know when the series is going to end, but endings are very important. Because I think a lot of times in this art, we talk about the problems, but we never talk about the solutions. And there never seems to be a happy ending.

Whether it's Menace to Society, Boys in the Hood, whatever it was, Juice, there's really no happy ending. Well, I think maybe because they're trying to teach a certain lesson a certain angle of the lesson you know and then that's making me think about certain songs where like yeah they they're not showing the glamorous part they show on the other part like we used to see in the rich and pose and all of them and all of that fly stuff but they're not showing you the heartache that comes along and so i think things are necessary with Nubia I do have the ending but it also is an entryway into film television animation everything you could think of I have

story points that we want to hit um so it's essentially I've created a my own universe that hopefully one day can be akin to like Marvel that's's what pains me about the Nubia series, though, because I love science fiction, and I do feel like it needs to be a film, a TV show. I don't know if Hollywood will ever make a real investment into sci-fi led by black people. I'm not waiting on Hollywood. Okay.

If I was waiting on Hollywood, the book would have never been written. Absolutely. So we gonna do what we do, which is find a way, you know. Hey, we made a delicacy out of the scraps, meaning they threw us pig intestines and we made chili. Yeah. And we made them so good.

They was like, can you make me a plate? This is what we do. So hopefully it is in my lifetime. I mean, this is what I'm doing it for. But, you know, there's when I say there's more of us i'm not talking about a color i mean like-minded there are more like-minded people than what we see portrayed in the news and in blogs and stuff like that so when people put their money where their mouth is and really support one another then it it enables us to go to those next levels to where we don't have to be

fully dependent on other systems absolutely now the three main next levels to where we don't have to be fully dependent on other systems absolutely now the three main characters of the book i don't want to say their names wrong um but zoshi lancho and zubari thank you so they are of this first generation to discover these powers yes when i read about that part of it it made me think about like just being first generation coming from certain like you know like i'm first generation college student or whatever and you realize that you really can be put in a dark room and find the light right what is the message in this book to the first generation of anything like the the students the kids the you know i'm first generation to go to college i'm first generation to buy a house what message millionaires yeah like what do they

take away from this from this book i mean there's there's a lot of things that they take that I think the one of the main themes for me is the idea of unity you know cats are spend $2,500 on a belt because it has a certain name on it but if envy shirt canes or like food on them back in the day supreme in the back in the day they say yo the belts $500 we like from you my. I'm going to go spend triple over there. Same quality. Right. And then you elevate and you be like, oh, they make all of these bags and stuff in the same factories. Same materials, same everything.

But because we're blinded by a name, which comes with a perception, we don't know how to stand for. I was like, no, we have the spending dollars so we're gonna spend here where it really matters and let as killer mike's loop always talks about keeping the dollar circulating amongst us first before it goes out right so the theme of unity on on every level and the other thing i really want the young reader to take away is all the answers are already inside of you that's right I think we're born into this world in perfect harmony and in perfect balance like if we look at the creation the world as we know it everything that's alive is like an instrument and it's this magnificent symphony and everything plays a part from an ant to an elephant to a tree.

Everything plays a part. The only thing that seems to be playing out of tune is human beings. We're the ones playing out of tune, playing the wrong notes. So I say that to say that the answers are already inside, right? They already are permeating through you physiologically and spiritually. Part of the conundrum of life is to then you sort of unlearn what is innately in you, product of environment, schooling, all of these things. And then you spend your latter life unlearning that to get back to the source.

So I imagine a world where right now college is a four-year process. What if one day college is a year process? What could that person do with that other three years in terms of being productive and if you put a bunch of those type of people together i mean we still marveling over i don't know twitter and facebook it's like i ain't curing cancer though that's right you know what i mean what what happened what do we do in a world where like tylenol cancer don't matter what kind oh just, just go to pharmacy, that's fine, that ain't nothing. Right.

Imagine how much more productive we could be as a species. Like the fact that we're in 2024 and people are still hung up on skin color, and again, I don't mean white, black, this is light skin,

dark skin stuff. Oh, that's some light skin stuff. Me and Marlon deal with that all the time. You call it beige. No, but he be in here.

It is some light skin stuff. But it ain't his fault. It's, no, and every time it happens, it beige rage. No, but he be in here. It is. Yeah. But it ain't his fault. It's no. And every time it happens, it's what we was taught. Every time it happens, we give him grace. That's not fair.

That's not fair. We give him grace. Charlamagne does the same thing and I say his complexion, they attack me. But he call me beige rage, beige, beige,

everything under the sun. And it's funny. But if I say black anything to him. Yeah, you can't do it. See? Why? But I'm black.

You are black. Exactly. So what's the problem? But this is what I'm talking about. The fact that he's Dominican. I'm not Dominican. Stop it. You better stop it.

You don't even claim what you claim. Stop it. Charlamagne, I got to stop you there. You look more Dominican than he does. Thank you. You been to Washington Heights lately? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. thank you you've been to washington heights lately omar said is so true and it's amazing to me that most things that are man-made take you out of

alignment yeah and i don't understand that i mean it makes sense though right it does make sense that's why when people get caught up in this ai i'm like it is oh my god it's being made so there's flaws in it we just can't see it yet. Ain't nothing to trip over. You know what I mean? And it's about being in tune with who we are and who we're here to be. And what is our purpose? And our purpose is to spread love and spread positive energy.

And you get to a point where we all are. We still have ambition. We still have drive. But we're pushing. It's a hell of a thing to be pushing for yourself and then push for others. When you're pushing for others, now you're really serving your purpose. And it's a fulfillment that no dollar amount could fill. When just passing off the information or the knowledge to someone and then go and see them walk, run, and then fly.

It's just a feeling that, to me, this is what life is about. One of the grand themes that life is about. The older I get, the less I want. Here you go. You know, because the things that I actually want, money can't buy. They're not superficial in any way, shape, or form. There you go. All right, we got more with Omar Epps.

When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guide. We are The are the breakfast club we have lauren larosa here our special guest host still kicking with omar epps would you having three kids would you want your three kids to be in the industry acting or music would you want them seeing what you've seen because you've seen behind the scenes you pull the curtain back so would you want them to to do that i mean i'm human so i think whatever whatever it is i don't care if

you a race car driver mechanic or bus driver like we all want our kids to do something other than what we great you know what i mean be great at that thing but underneath it all i just want them to follow their passion you know whatever brings them joy if it's uh you know our youngest daughter she's a singer-songwriter that's her gift but she's putting in the work for it and that's the main thing you know nothing's gonna come to you easy but if you're putting in the work for it and that's your passion i'm behind it see it's good it's good in situations like that because mom and dad have been there so so you can guide where maybe you didn't have that guidance maybe your mom didn't know how to look at contracts and look know what to look for you know

i mean so it's good that you're there but it's just you know it's a difficult thing because you're like damn the stress that i went through dealing with this industry yeah but you know what what you're saying is right in essence but realistically it's a totally different world because this this a completely different universe from selling a physical record to a stream and the business in between that correct it's a whole different world so it's like yeah your moms did that but uh not like this is she momager huh like are you guys like managing yeah like you act like mom's not right here he mentioned he mentioned she's a heavy-handed advisor what's your favorite method of storytelling is it tv is it films or is it books Heavy-handed advice. All right, I heard you. What's your favorite method of storytelling?

Is it TV, is it films, or is it books? It depends on the story. You know, like when I was thinking of Nubia, I saw film, I saw television, I saw all these things, but I knew that's not the delivery system right now. You know what I'm saying? You're going to have to crawl through this process. Crawl, meaning a good thing. Like, there's just so much story.

The depth of the story can only be done in book form, in its initial phase. Once that's established to an audience and they're familiar with, oh, yeah, that's the blah, blah, blah, blah, then we can take it other places. And so we're still in, this is phase one, if you will. But other than that, I just love art, man. It doesn't matter. Like I said earlier, I think there's an art to cooking. There's an art to everything. There's art to business. You know, it just depends on, you know, what you connect to and what makes you happy.

And for me, the prime goal is to is is like I realize the weight of everything that I'm a part of is going to outlast me so why am i really doing this who am i doing it with it's not just a self-fulfilling thing anymore you know what i mean like the the greatest compliments to this day the greatest compliments that i received was when people come up to me and say something that i was in, you know, helped them through or inspired them to, I had a young doctor come up to me and was talking about a show that I was on, a medical show I was on,

and they were just like, the portrayal of that character helped them through a tough time while they were in med school ready to give up. And to me, that was like getting a million dollar check because I'm like,

this is exactly what I do it for. You know what I mean? Like to be able to pass on what was passed on to me. I really did want to know a million dollar check because i'm like this is exactly what i do it for you know what i mean like to to be able to pass on what was passed on to me i really didn't want to know how you wrap your mind around what's going on in 2098 i mean it's to me it's simple i think humans are gonna human and then geographically like again whatever happens in the next 20 30 years there's gonna be a world after that so that's creative license well that's kind of looking at if we i mean sadly if we take a cue from what happened

with sandy the lower part of the city would be underwater and then same same rules apply with where's all the money at now uptown all right let's ramp that up a little bit more humans have fused with technology let's you know you get to take creative license but the more things change the more they stay the same man you know i'm saying like like in the hood everybody want to talk about new world order no it's one world order that's the actual term and that's been for thousands of years there's always going to be a group of few that try to control the many there ain't nothing new there's no conspiracy it's right there dead in front of your face it's just how you perceive it you know what i mean but there's

something to perceive as well is that the victory is already won and whether the listeners whether you a believer or not i'm not and you know putting my beliefs on anyone i'm a believer and the victory is already won the the table of victory with the most beneficent is already set so there's a part of us that we've gone through the motions choose your side choose wisely and live your life and your character is determined by your actions period you know what i mean so you know hopefully when it's my time my actions will be met by the eternal glory you play so many iconic roles does it ever bother you when somebody calls you one of the names from the iconic roles? Like, I'm sure you walk down the hall, I'm like, Q!

You know what I mean? I love it. That doesn't bother me at all. No, no, no, that doesn't bother me at all. I'm cool with that. What bothers you? When people call me like, yo, Makai! I'm like, that's my mans and all that, but I know we look alike.

They say we all old but come on bro they even like they're gonna say charlamagne they're like yo mike i'm like mike mike well i'm like come on yo like that's the i can see mckay like where is this happening like it's just random like sometimes i wonder if are just, it's like if someone saw you and they're like, oh, I know. You got called Will.i.am? Yeah, I did get called Will.i.am. That was great.

I thought you should just start answering this stuff. Morris Chestnut, but nobody ever heard of him. Morris Chestnut said that. You know what's interesting though? Morris Chestnut said somebody called him Charlamagne. Yeah, he said on Jennifer Hudson, so he said he gets mistaken for me. That's a goddamn lie.

He said that. Do you see it? Why you mad at God? Tell me. Do you see it? Why you mad at God, Omar? Tell me. Do you see it? Why you mad at God, engineering? I'm just going to resign this. God battles on the same track.

Why you mad at God? Why are you upset about it? You saw the Dominican in him. Do you see it? Knock it off. Definitely. Y'all got to take him up to Washington Heights.

Omar got to go now. We did have a debate about who your favorite, who the best Omar Epps character was. I think your best role is Jay Reid in Too Deep. I think that's a very slept on role. How about I haven't done it yet? Ooh.

Ooh. Yeah. Okay. Let's go. Well, there you have it. It's Omar Epps. We appreciate you for joining us, brother. Yes.

Books out right now. Nubia, The Reckoning. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Charlamagne, the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Before we jump into the room, it's Lawn LaRose. Our special the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. Before we jump into the room, as Lauren LaRosa, our special guest host, is here.

Ebony K. Williams will be joining us next hour. Charlamagne is taking over Charlamagne's donkey. Yeah, I'm not going to do donkey today because I told Lauren yesterday that one day she might have to be face-to-face with Ebony K. Williams, okay? And she better keep that same energy. And I said I was excited to do it. I said I was excited to do it, and we was going to talk through all the points I had. That's right.

Because I know she's going to talk through hers. That's right. So Ebony K. Williams will be joining us. And we're going to be taking calls. So if you want to talk to Ebony K. Williams, you can get on the phone lines 800-585-1051. You know, something that she said went viral yesterday. People were talking about it. It was on all the blogs.

We're going to discuss that. And we're going to allow you guys out there to talk to her as well. That's right. We're going to allow everybody to talk to Ebony this morning, except for bus drivers, because y'all might still be holding on to something, and we're talking about something else. Y'all got security here, though? Huh?

What? Phone calls? What are you talking about? Because people will be rolling up on you at the radio station. That's me. I got years of causing problems. Yeah. You are the shoe.

You are the shoe. And we have security outside so we're not concerned all right but let's get to the rumors i think a lot of people will recognize the voice in the name on the breakfast club lauren came in hot you know i came to tell him the truth now suki hana um you guys know suki hana the rapper she's been up here that's my girl and she says she's not sure what made her feel like it was okay to eat a man's behind the salad oh i can't say the whole oh you can say can say that. Basically, she changed her dietary habits.

Yeah, she doesn't want to toss the salad anymore. Yeah, the dietary change salad. Lord have mercy. A lot of people are doing healthier dietary tips. You know what I mean? That's a good healthy dietary tip right there. The toothpaste might not have been getting through all of the after effects either. So maybe that's a part of it too.

But it's not even about the act. It's about you don't just do that to anybody. She didn't. Suki always said, when she was here, she said, when she's with a man, she's in love. So that's her bae. I didn't know that song. I played a song for this already. Play another song.

He just ain't my type. He want to switch. Now I'm eating his. Him. Eating his. Him. That guy. Eating his.

That guy. Eating his. That's four. Him. Five. That's five. It's no way. It's no way. That was five. That was five. It. That guy. Him. That's four. Him. Five. That's five. That was five different people. That was five bucks.

She would have like a pink eye or something. It's no way. And by the time she got to the fifth guy, she said, we. So that's a buffet. What's she stupid? I don't, y'all. Not all you can eat. That's what she said.

I don't know. Well, I mean, let me tell you something. I don't know the amount Not all you can eat That's what she said I don't know Well I mean Let me tell you something I don't know the amount Of people she was talking about Buffet Single plate One serving or not But then she followed up

And said I'm gonna do it again Okay She's back Sookie's back in the game That was a quick diet Yeah She's back in the game

It's like junk food It's like It's like not something You should do all the time Like a cheat meal That's how you start treating it Like a cheat meal And tossing the salad It's like Treat it like a cheat meal Wow Sook all the time. Like a cheat meal. That's how you start treating it. Like a cheat meal. Tossing the salad is like a cheat meal.

Treat it like a cheat meal. A sukiyana should treat it like a cheat meal. Some people treat their backsides very well. Bidets and all that. And now they cheat. It's a cheat meal. Yeah, it's a cheat meal. They need something to be eating all the time.

Okay. All right. Well, Britney Spears, she recently had fans online very scared for her. She posts these videos where she's dancing in her house britney be doing britney um call that dancing i mean look she's right yeah that's what she does i don't know but she posted a video this time she was dancing but she had knives in her hand so fans freaked out they ended up uh reaching out to police who went to her home to do a wellness check just to make sure she was OK. And Britney Spears actually had to come out and speak on it.

So she said, I know I spooked everyone with the last post, but these are fake knives that my team rented from the hand prop shop in L.A. These are not real knives. No one needs to worry or call the police. I'm trying to imitate one of my favorite performers shakira a performance i was inspired by she's talking about shakira's uh mtv vma performance earlier this month you know i have been on good authority uh sources told me and you should believe me even though that i'm even though i'm lying that britney spears watches drink champs and she loves the episode with tony yale and she watches the episode over and over and when tony yale was on Drink Champs and he talked about

members of Terror Squad you know dancing with machetes dancing with knives it says that's what inspired the video that she posted. But you're telling the truth but you're lying. No I'm telling the truth but I'm lying but the point is she watches Drink Champs a lot

and she loves that episode with Tony Ayo I don't think Britney Spears knows who Tony Ayo is. And she loves Fat Joe. She wants Fat Joe to go to her house and deliver her a pair of Terror Squad sneakers because she wants to be a member of Terror Squad. So that was her way of saying, hey, I can be down with TS. TS, BS, you know? Got you.

Absolutely. You're telling the truth, but you're lying. All righty. My sources say. I don't want to see Britney in a two-piece and some Terror Squad Air Force Ones in a video. I would love to see that. Are you crazy? I don't want to see it.

Prides would go crazy. I'm good. I'm good off that. It'd probably be metallic, too, because she really trying to up the sneak. A black two-piece with the blackout Fat Joe Terror Squad sneakers dancing with knives would be incredible. That'd be more incredible than Bill Clinton wearing them. You hear me? All right.

Bill Clinton had them on with a suit. Yeah, he did. All right. Well, that is your rumor report Now when we come back Charlamagne is not doing his donkey today That's because Ebony K. Williams will be joining us Judge Ebony K. Williams And we're going to discuss a lot today

And we're going to be taking your calls to 800-585-1051 Yesterday she made some statements that went viral And we're going to talk about it We're going to discuss So get on the phone lines right now It's The Breakfast Club Good morning The Breakfast Club

Your mornings will never be the same. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Lauren La Rosa here, our special guest host, and we got a special guest with us today. We had a topic talking about some statements that she said, ladies and gentlemen, Ebony K. Williams. Don't nobody stir it up like Ebony K. What's up, Envy? What's up, Char? What's up, Ms. Warren? Hi, how are you? Good morning. Good morning.

Envy, I was going to be very, very pissed and disappointed if you weren't Skyping in. Why? Because I didn't know if I'd ever be back up here, to be candid. If you don't Skype. No, I really didn't. Why? It was tight last time. You think so? Yeah, but God is good. I came with my godly own. You don't think so? Godly on. We good. God is good. I came with my Godly own. You don't think so?

Godly on. We good. It's really, God is good. I would say this. You know, every time we have a conversation, we're always not going to agree, but you're always invited up here regardless. I mean, we're not going to agree on everything, but the best thing about us is just having a conversation.

So never think that you can't come up here for something you say. No, that's what these conversations and these platforms are about. I'm half playing, but it's a good point. And it's worth saying out loud. So I appreciate that. And I love you, sister. I don't want you to think I don't love you. I love you for real.

I appreciate everything that you do. Absolutely. And it's just like anything else. You go hardest in the paint with your fam. Yes, in the paint. As in the paint that's on your face. Shut up, Teller. Well, I'm happy you're here.

Thank you, Lauren. I said yesterday I would love to have a conversation with you about the video. Now, what's the topic of conversation? I feel like this is a conversation that men shouldn't even be involved Lauren. I said yesterday I would love to have a conversation with you about the video. What's the topic of conversation? I feel like this is a conversation that men shouldn't even be involved in, but what is the gist of the conversation? It's not for you, Charlamagne, so I'm glad that you said that. This is a conversation for ladies, and I

texted my good friend Charlamagne. I said, as a friend to the show, I heard the conversation yesterday. I appreciated the critique and the constructive nature of it, and I said, you know, since I'm down the street on the the train let me pull up and and i want to hear from you lauren about what you agree with and what you disagree with and have a ladies conversation about let's do it yeah so i think for me um i'll start with what the what i disagree with well first for people that don't know you want to you want to play the clip of what went viral so people

understand that clip to bring everybody up this red you got the clip let's play the clip red the reality is that our marriage and partnership market value is depreciating with every passing year no matter how good we look no matter how fit we are men are still seeing primarily our presumed dwindling fertility as a knock against us. So here's my advice. If you are a young black woman in college and you know in your heart and in your head that you want to prioritize family, I suggest that you simultaneously pursue that MRS degree right along with that BA or JD. Because a handful of black college age men that actually do desire to get married soon and they do share that value system and family is a priority for them, too. Y'all, that is an incredibly small pool and it's shrinking as you get older.

And by the time you reach my age, 40, you will be faced with different choices relating to life partnership and motherhood so I think um all right so breaking it down into what I agree and what I disagree with so the disagreeing for me came with the starting with the infertility and the uh the market value they're appreciating so with the infertility I know some I said this yesterday some stuff is science right you can't get around that but I feel like when you start with that and you lead with that, it then makes people get defensive and they don't even hear the rest of it. I know when I first listened to it, I was like, oh, God, this is going to be another one of those conversations where like someone's telling me as a woman. By the time you get this age, your life is over. And, you know, when you're when you're like trying to figure things out and you're like, I'm 31 years old, right?

Like I'm recently out of a very long relationship. You want to feel. Not I heard. Charlamagne. He always did my big thing. Jesus Christ. Charlamagne told me, Laura. Don't worry, there's life after.

Go ahead. But that's my point. It's like for me, I made a very conscious decision with a lot of things in my life, going to college, being in the relationship that I was in, not being in that relationship, even with my like recent, you know, back and forth to East Coast, West Coast. Like I've always had to be very conscious and cognizant of the fact that like, you know, as a woman, as a black woman. Right. Especially working in the space that I work in. I might not get that that other chance. Like I got to do it right the first time and I think about professionally professionally and personally okay and only because that's what are your personal goals just so we're clear do you want marriage I want marriage I want children yes family foundation I want all of that great um I don't

even have a number of kids once we start we start I just want to get in the minutiae of that but yeah but yes I want yes I would okay I'm going we start, we start. I just want to have twins first. We're not going to get into the minutia of that. But you want to be a mother. Yes. I'm going to be an amazing mom. But I just feel like when you lead with the stuff that you lead with, it instantly turns the conversation negative. And for someone like me who is watching and learning and listening to you, it makes it where now I am defensive. I don't want to watch, listen, and learn. I don't hear the rest of what you're saying. So now I'm not being taught.

And I should feel like I can listen to you and learn from you and not feel like you're the op right and that's how it starts off when you instantly are telling me everything negative about what I already am facing every single day and I think that that's a big part of it too is like when you put certain truths in front of people it hurts people don't want to hear it but beyond that like you can't get around the infertility. The second thing was the market value. Right. I don't agree. I don't know where you were at 31. But for me, I feel like I'm just now getting to the space where like the people that I'm able to or not even able to. But the people that I'm dating, the life experiences that I'm experiencing that are teaching me what I want, what I don't want. I'm right now in the best space that I've ever been in. And that wasn't me

in college. I didn't know what I wanted in college. I didn't know who I was in college. I seen nothing, haven't done anything. I didn't agree with that. But... Let's just, because you put two big ones out and let's break them down before we get ahead of ourselves. Okay, so you're 31 years old, a college

educated woman, enjoying a very successful career in a high profile space. I'm going to put my hands together for all of that. Now, when I say market value depreciating, Lauren, did you hear what I said before that? Did you hear the specificity of the particular marketplace I'm speaking about? No. Which was that? OK, so I want to just go back actually to your first point, Lauren, which I think you are conceding that you had a reaction to my commentary that was so visceral in nature that you actually shut down your listening comprehension skills. You said that. OK, so so because of that, though, right, I'm not going to sit in a posture of ownership because you made a choice to be limited in the way in which you received and processed the information.

Now, you are a grown woman and you have autonomy over what you choose to consume and what you choose to not consume. So when I was giving the advice, the strategy, the game, putting certain people up on some game, I'm talking to a very limited pool of young black ladies, the ones that are currently in school or immediately following school or graduate school. And then the other caveat, I'll say the other place this information is in real time relevant to are the mothers or even the fathers of those young women. That's who this is for. So you this is actually not even applicable to you lauren so no no let me finish wait before you finish your thought i also think too the reason why people also because not just me or the people because even the people it's meant for i'm sure some of them did the same exact thing as well and some did not right and some did not because i'm not right

right because you read all the comments right yeah i did but what i think what i think happens is with you and i i just saying this in the most respectful way. I think that the way that you approach things, like even this conversation right now, yeah, it can make it, it does that. It dilutes the whole point of like,

for you, for you talking to me specifically. You agreed with Evan, you know, I agree with certain parts of it, but I think that the, my whole point of what I'm saying, right?

Cause right now I feel like you're taking what i didn't agree with and the fact that i don't remember specific words or whatever you said lauren really i really think this would be better served and more productive if just like i it's kind of like an opening statement in a court of law i gave you a good amount of time to lay out two prongs of disagreement and i respect and appreciate both of your positions i'm not saying they are wrong but i am saying that i don't know how productive it is to be the time manner and delivery police right so when we talk about and also this the nature of this work that we all do in this space of media and journalism whatever we want to call it right it's very subjective in nature so for everybody lauren that takes your position, which is very valid, it was

visceral to me. I found it triggering. It felt hurtful. I felt attacked. I felt policed. I felt s***ed on. Whatever it is, there's also a whole other contingency of black women that felt seen by that commentary, that felt heard. I had Soros coming up to me. We had a fundraiser. Shout out to the Pi Kappa Omega Chapter of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated. It's Kiwi. We had a fundraiser that very night that that commentary dropped.

And I had Soros coming up to me who are more in my age group, right? Because that's the first thing we need to acknowledge. Lauren and I are not the same age. There's a good 10 years between me and this lovely young lady. So I'm speaking from a purview of experience that looks a bit different. Not vastly so, but a bit different.

I agree. And my peers who are 40 and up are like, I wish someone would have told me. And the fact that you are doing the labor, Ebony, you are doing the service of letting young girls that are currently in position to put themselves in best practices, because they are currently in school or graduate school or shortly thereafter, matters.

And it's good that somebody is rolling up their sleeves and doing the work and having the conversation publicly that quiet as kept. Many pockets of black elite culture are having with their children generationally every day uh we gotta uh take a break so we'll come back and we also want to take some calls 800-585-1051 and if you're just joining us that's lauren larosa she's our special guest host today and ebony k williams is up here and i think it's very important when we come back let's talk about what we agree with in this yeah i want to get to that too because i don't want you to feel like because what we do when we come back, right? Yeah, okay. We do it when we come back.

Yeah, okay. All right, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. On this Friday,

we have Lauren LaRosa, our special guest host, and we have Ebony K. Williams joining us this morning. And we're taking your calls as well. 800-585-1051. Now, we're discussing some comments that Eb 800-585-1051 now we're discussing some comments that uh ebony k williams made that went viral yesterday so now right before we left

i cut both you guys off so we can pay some bills and get some music on so i know ebony k williams you were talking i was so i was acknowledging lauren's right right to consume content that she enjoys and feels comfortable with and also reject that which she doesn't because her critique at this point, I understand is a bit about my it's about my delivery as much as the substance of what I'm saying. I think that the disagreement again comes in with how you say and we don't get that vulnerability, right? So me sitting here with you right now is like this is what I want to feel when I see the content. I might not always get that. And maybe it's not like you said it wasn't for me. It was for the girls are still in college, right?

But at the same time, it's placed on my timeline. So I get it and I feel it and I stop not always get that though. Like you said, it wasn't for me. It was for the girls that are still in college, right? But at the same time, it's placed on my timeline so I get it and I feel it and I stop and I listen either way. I'm glad you do. Shout out to the team at the Griot. Go ahead. I was going to get to that. But what I did agree with was when you started talking about

the pool of men getting smaller when it comes to those men who will be honest about what they want when it comes to the family, a they are actually worth the time the energy it's it's consistent you're getting the same energy that you're putting out it does get smaller as you get older and like now that i'm out here in the dating world i'm like oh okay and keep in mind you're only 30 right 31 so it's like as you get to 40 that that the the pool has shrunk further 50 even more so and i've dated i'm having me before i'm 50 i'm gonna have a man listen i'm not even i got i actually believe in the power of the tongue so i believe so you speak so you you have and you

will desire i do want to speak to the fertility part because it's very important it is um as i sit here with y'all today uh you know i I'm literally on some fertility drugs. I am preparing for my embryo transfer in the next few weeks. Now, I'm 40 years old, just turned 40 a couple of weeks ago. Y'all know I've been very transparent about my motherhood journey. I'm doing it solo by choice. Y'all know I froze eggs at 34 years old. I'm doing this. I'm excited to be a mom. I'm scared as hell. I know it's going to be the hardest thing I've ever done in my life

and yet I cannot wait to enter this mother era of my life. And also, Lauren, I don't think this is how most black women want to do it. Why? I was going to say,

why solo by choice? Well, several reasons. Number one, I'm no longer willing to wait to activate my pursuit of motherhood. I'm no longer willing to wait i've been married and divorced in my late 20s i had also a long-term relationship many years ago i ended a engagement during the pandemic i'm ready for my baby i am ready to pour into someone other

than me finally it took me a very long time to get here but when she ready right now she ready okay now i don't think that most, most black women desire doing this journey alone. I don't. It's very important. And I know that you mentioned yesterday the egg freezing. So let's talk about that. Yeah, because I think that that is marketed, not just you, Lauren. I think in general, that is in a lot of these comments. Right. Well, girl, just freeze your eggs and don't worry about the rest.

Now that's some bull because I'm here to tell you because I'm living it. Right. I froze eggs at 34. I never thought in a million years I would need to use them. Right. Because why? I was in a loving, committed relationship. These were my spare.

Have you frozen eggs at this point? No, I thought about doing it last year. I thought about starting the process. OK, so let me just and this is not investigative. This is, I'm just trying to see something here. Do you know how many eggs on average a woman should have on ice, on reserve, frozen for a probability of one live birth? No, I don't. About 20.

Then if I say, okay, how many egg retrievals are required to get about 20 eggs in a woman that's, say, 35 and up? The answer is at least two. What's the cost average of an egg retrieval? Amy probably knows this, but she knows it's between $12,000 and $15,000 per retrieval cycle. That most insurances don't cover. Most insurances do not cover unless you're working at Google or Amazon. And by the way, you probably need to be married for them to cover it. Otherwise, they consider it elective.

They don't recognize it as infertility in the way that married couples that struggle to conceive have. So what I'm saying is the egg freezing route, the single motherhood by choice route, the IVF route are amazing technological tools, Lauren. But they are wealthy women tools. Period. Let's be very clear. It's just more to it than just freezing eggs. I get you. I think with that part, for me, I was speaking from my own personal experience. And I think that

hearing you respond to it, I can understand your response to what I said. But I think maybe I should have been a little bit more clear. Because for me, Still freezing though, by the way, because you have money. At that time when I was thinking about doing it, it was because the insurance that I was getting through my employer supported that to a certain extent where anything,

like, yes, it is expensive, but I would have been able to figure it out. I think you should still do it. I don't want that missed here. I'm still encouraging you to do it. I will say I got a little bit, I got like scared out of it a little bit. Only because of God.

Don't do that. But more so because of what like envy shared with me what you talked about like going through all of that and then it i'll go with you to not work right i'll go with you we can talk about i'm very serious okay i really so so i'm saying two things here and this is important in this conversation y'all people have got i encourage people i'll say to hold space for more than one thing at one time and i feel like what ebony just said now is very important all All Ebony is saying is this isn't ideal. And you don't want folks to have to necessarily go through this.

For me, I don't want to do this. Let me just reiterate that because that's very important. Because these stakes are very high, Lauren. I'm $50,000 into an IVF journey by myself. So I don't have a husband splitting that with me, which there's reasons why that's preferable for me. But I really need people to hear that. And I'm taking shots and I'm giving them to myself.

And I'm doing all this to bring life into this world. And I don't take it lightly because it's a very serious thing. So I think when we were very cavalier, not just you, right, but in general, with, oh, just IVF or, oh, just marry outside the race. Obviously, been there, done that, too. Oh, I'm doing that. Well, I heard some Snow King commentary earlier. I said that. I said that.

I said that. I was cute. Now I can't eat snow. Hold up, guys. Hold up, guys. We got to take some calls. We got to take some calls. Oh, my God.

We got to take some calls. 800- We're doing this up because I feel like people don't get this. 105- If you listen- Okay, let's go. We're going to break. We got to take some calls when we come back.

I just want to say this. We got when we come back and I just wanna say this I just wanna say this most people don't know what Ebony's going through right now with the in vitro fertility no because

most people haven't been through it and the fact that thank you thank you Charlamagne but the people that listen to Hold It Court they can know

every day but the fact that she has to do it by herself is a lot like she has to put them shots in her stomach and all that by herself. Thank you, MB.

And most people don't know it. I can't even imagine if my wife had to do it by herself or a woman having to do it by herself and go to a doctor's appointment. It's a lot. Being in that waiting room by yourself. It's a lot. I can't imagine that. And the transfer. We'll take some calls.

We'll take some calls when we come back. We got to talk about the stuff that we agreed with, too, because a lot of people agree with some things that you said. Well, I'm sure the callers will probably get to some of it. We ain't got all that much time, guys. 800-585-1051. Let's go. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club on this Friday. We have Lauren LaRosa, our special guest host. And we have Ebony K. Williams joining us this morning. And we're taking your calls as well. 800-585-1051. Now, we're discussing some comments that Ebony K. Williams made that went viral yesterday.

So now, right before we left, I cut both you guys off so we can pay some bills and get some music on. So, I know, Ebony K. Williams, you were talking. I was. So, I was acknowledging Lauren's right to consume content that she enjoys and feels comfortable with. And also reject that, which she doesn't because her critique at this point i understand is a bit about my it's about my delivery as much as the substance of what i'm saying i think that the disagreement again comes in with how you say and we don't get that vulnerability right so me sitting here with you right now is like this is what i want to feel when i see the content i might not always get that though and maybe it's not like

you said it wasn't for me it was for the girls that's still in college right but at the same time it's placed on my timeline so i get it and i feel it and i stop and i listen either way but i'm glad you do shout out to the team at the griot go ahead but but i was going to get to that but what i did agree with was the fact like when you started talking about the pool of men getting smaller when it comes to those men who men who will be honest about what they want when it comes to the family a woman they are actually worth the time the energy it's it's consistent you're getting the same energy that you're putting out it does get smaller as you get older and like now that i'm out here in the dating world i'm like oh okay and keep in mind you're only 30 right 31 so it's

like as you get to 40 that that the the pool has shrunk further. 50, even more so. And I've dated up to late 50s. I'm going to have a man before I'm 50. Listen, I'm not even. I actually believe in the power of the tongue. So I believe so you speak so you have and you will desire. I do want to speak to the fertility part because it's very important. It is.

As I sit here with y'all today, you know, I'm literally on some fertility drugs. I am preparing for my embryo transfer in the next few weeks. Now, I'm 40 years old, just turned 40 a couple of weeks ago. Y'all know I've been very transparent about my motherhood journey. I'm doing it solo by choice. Y'all know I froze eggs at 34 years old. I'm doing this. I'm excited to be a mom.

I'm scared as hell. I know it's going to be the hardest thing I've ever done in my life and yet I cannot wait to enter this mother era of my life. And also, Lauren, I don't think this is how most black women want to do it. Why solo by choice? Well, several reasons. Number one,

I'm no longer willing to wait to activate my pursuit of motherhood. I'm no longer willing to wait. I've been married and divorced in my late 20s. I had also a long-term relationship many years ago. I ended up engagement during the pandemic. I'm ready for my baby. I am ready to pour into someone other than me.

Finally, it took me a very long time to get here. But when she ready, she ready. Okay. Now, I don't think that most women, most black women desire doing this journey alone i don't it's very important and i and i know that you mentioned yesterday the egg freezing so let's talk about that yeah because i think that that is marketed not just you lauren i think in general that is in a lot of these comments right well girl just freeze your eggs and don't worry about

the rest now that's some bull because i'm here to tell you because i'm living it right i froze eggs at 34 i never thought in a million years i would need to use them right because why i was in a loving committed relationship these were my spare have you frozen eggs at this point no i thought about doing it last year i thought about starting the process okay so let me just and this is not investigative this is i'm just trying to see something here do you know how many eggs on average a woman should have on ice on reserve frozen for a probability of one live birth no i don't about 20 then if i say okay how many egg retrievals are required to get about 20 eggs in a woman that's, say, 35 and up? The answer is at least two. What's the cost average of an egg retrieval?

Amy probably knows this, but she knows it's between $12,000 and $15,000 per retrieval cycle. That most assurances don't cover. Most assurances do not cover unless you're working at Google or Amazon. And by the way, you probably need to be married for them to cover it. Otherwise, they consider it elective. They don't recognize it as infertility in the way that married couples that struggle to conceive have. So what I'm saying is the egg freezing route, the single motherhood by choice route, the IVF route are amazing technological tools, Lauren. But they are wealthy women tools, period.

Let's be very clear. It's just more to it than just freezing it I get you I think with that part for me I was speaking from my own personal experience and I think that like hearing you respond to it I can understand your response to what I said but I think maybe I should have been a little bit more clear because for me at that still free them though money at that time when I was thinking about doing it it was because the insurance that I was getting through my employer supported that to a certain extent where anything like yes it is expensive but i would have been able to figure it out so i think

you should still do it i want that to i don't want that missed here i'm still encouraging you to do it i will say i got a little bit i got like scared out of it a little bit only because out of god don't do that but but more so because of what like envy shared with me, what you talked about, like going through all of that and then it, I'll go with you to not work. Right. I'll go with you.

We can talk about it. I'm very serious. I really, so, so I'm saying two things here and this is important in this conversation. Y'all people have got, I encourage people, I'll say to hold space for more than one thing at one time.

And I feel like whatever he just said now is very important. All Ebony is saying is this isn't ideal and you don't want it's not you don't want folks to have to necessarily go through this for me let me just reiterate that because that's very important because this is this is these these stakes are very high lauren i'm fifty thousand dollars into uh ivf journey by myself so i don't have a husband splitting that with me which i which there's reasons why that's preferable for me but i really need people to hear that and I'm taking shots and I'm giving them to myself and I'm doing all this to bring life into this world yeah and and I don't take it lightly because it's a very serious thing so I think when we were very cavalier not not just you right but in general with oh just IVF or oh

just marry outside the race obviously been there done that too that that well i heard some snow no king commentary we gotta take some calls we gotta take some calls we gotta take some calls we gotta take some calls when we come back and i just want to say this. We got to do this. I just want to say this. Most people don't know what Ebony's going through right now with the in vitro fertility. They're not listening. No, because most people haven't been through it. Because people get bites of condoms. And the fact that-

The Holden Court podcast. Thank you, Charlamagne. I'm going to say it. But the people that listen to Holden Court, they get that every day. Because they get bites when they hit the shaver. But the fact that she has to do it by herself is a lot. She has to put them shots in her stomach and all that by herself. Thank you, Envy.

And most people don't know it. Like, I can't even imagine if my wife had to do it by herself or a woman having to do it by herself and go to this doctor's appointment. It's a lot. Being in that waiting room

by yourself. It's a lot. I can't imagine that. We'll take some calls. We'll take some calls when we come back. We gotta talk about the stuff that we agreed with, too,

because a lot of people agree with some things. Well, I'm sure the callers will probably get to some of it. We ain't got all that much time, guys. 800-585-1051. Let's go. It's the Breakfast Club.

Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Our special guest host, Lauren LaRosa, is here. And Ebony K. Williams is still here. We're having a grown-up discussion this morning. And we're opening up the phone lines.

I'm going to let you guys out there get a chance to chop it up with Ebony K. Williams. Alright? 800-585-1051 and we just want to say it's a respectful conversation. So as soon as the disrespect happens, we're banging on you. That's right. No bus drivers. Bus driver gate has happened. We're on to something else now. You stop it, Charlamagne.

Hello, who's this? Alicia. Hey, Alicia. Good morning. Hey, how are you? Good, good good good ebony k williams is here you got it you got a question comment oh well i just kind of wanted to agree with her first of all she stated that if this is what you want and you're like this is what i suggest so she was not pushing that on anyone but if we're being honest that's what our counterparts teach their girls so go to college and find a husband. Education is almost secondary to especially white Southern women. So I don't see a problem with it.

Is that true? Thank you, sis. It absolutely is true. So, you know, I went to UNC Chapel Hill, a very predominantly white institution in the South, as the good sis just mentioned. And that ring before spring is serious for them. What they're looking to do, because our counterparts tend to view marriage primarily through a lens of economic stability. Let's be clear. And historically

we know that is the nature of marriage. Correct. It's a transaction of sorts. And I know, once again, you know, the tears are going to roll when I say that out loud for some. I don't know why. Because they are not willing to really stand in the reality of the tenets of marriage in America today.

Love don't pay mortgage. Right. So that's that's the reality. And our counterparts do it all the time. The difference is they are not shamed when they do it. I think that when you see black girls and black young women going and making the space for marriage as as much of a priority as education it flies in the face of a generation that told me and mine go to school stay focused don't get pregnant boys are a distraction right they're going to throw you off your game get your education get your money get your house get your power figure out who you are stand in it and then go partner get married and live happily ever after

the challenge with that because that's the model i i took i'm proud to have taken it i had a little default start in marriage that was not for me so i divorced him not a problem great guy here's the thing here's the thing is most black women do want the traditional marital nuclear family model and when you get to a certain level of income as black women a certain level of power a certain level of being able to travel the world on your own dime and be in the sky lounge without some dusty sun swipe that's okay the shrinking happens and also let me tell you what else you move differences you move you you think your swag is on a thousand today and it's very high and i love seeing it wait till you wait till you're over that million dollar a year mark of income wait till it's like wait till you own your your 1.7 million dollar property in your own name and

only your name is on the deed based on a true story i'm just saying you you ain't nobody's gonna be able to tell you unless they're coming all the way correct period and that's gonna make that pulse pool rather even smaller go ahead let's take some more calls yeah yeah sorry hello who's this sofia hey sofia what's your question for ebony k williams not quest well i guess a question i have a few things like how are you raised um i was seeing i've seen that you were 40 i'm 48 i'm a black woman raised with black women. We were not raised to go look for a man. We wasn't raised to just go look for a ring. Oh, my God, I just have to have a man. We were raised to respect ourselves, to love God. And if God saw fit for us to be married our husband would find us like it's like you putting your failures or how that you seem like you failed because you didn't get a ring in college but you putting it off on other women especially black women i don't know any other race but that's not how i was raised okay let ebony respond yeah good morning assist so, I was raised by a God-fearing, incredible black woman named Gloria

who raised me to go to school, go to more school, get the bag, and stand in my truth and power. So that's the first answer to your question. As for failure, I don't have any in the space, dear. I actually was married. I had a beautiful cushion-cut diamond on my finger until I decided to give it back because I no longer wanted to be married. So I don't have failure in the space. The only reason I'm not married is because I divorced my husband. Now, as to putting this on black women, I'm doing no such thing. What I know for fact,

because I have sorority sisters, I have good friends, I have a strong global sisterhood of black women who tell me some of them tell me that despite their success, despite their careers and despite their money, they in their heart of hearts still desire marriage. It is something that they want. And I think we got to get rid of shaming black women for wanting what they want for the black women, that that is already a desire of their heart to be married in a timely fashion. That's who this advice is for. If you don't want that i want nothing but what you want for yourself i think a lot of people take the stance that she took because you literally like a lot of people don't know certain things right they don't listen but i also think

that say that part one more time they don't know certain things and they don't listen but wait another important point is i think a lot of people take you just as a personality and all that you have going on as like you look and speak down on people and i think with black women is instantly triggering because we've had that happen so much right and that's why that happens where she's like well how were you raised like even the way that she came into that call was like you think that you're better or you think that you're right doing something that other people have not done right and i think that happens a lot with you yeah it's a projection yeah so i'm 40 right so none of that's new lauren just so you know like when you walk through the

world carrying yourself the way i do having my aesthetic projections and presumptions about who i am and what my values are come with the territory but that's also why i do the work i do i got 100 episodes of holding court people can watch i'm on every day here locally in new york channel 55 11 30 a.m equal justice with judge ebony yes i'm judging you uh and several other things i got two books including uh bent on back what'd you say baby i saw equal justice in vegas you saw it yeah yeah it's nationally syndicated i'm in 85 of american homes so there's lots of content to consume well let's go to another caller hello who's this hi my name is Tish. I'm calling from Houston.

Hey, Tish. What's your question for Ebony K. Williams? It's not really a question. I'm just saying, well, first of all, good morning to everybody. I just want to say that I am Team Ebony, and I don't see anything that she's saying is wrong. She's letting her platform, everyone who follows her, know that as an author author woman i'm just giving you advice i've been there i've been through college and this is my feelings based on my experiences and i just

feel like she should be respected for it okay well thank you for calling mama appreciate it sis thank you so much have a good day so let's put a button on this man because you know i strapped this up i appreciate listen i appreciate the platform i I appreciate the conversation, Lauren. I do, too. I think that as black women in particular, we got to hold the space to have the difficult conversations. All right.

Well, we appreciate you joining us and having a great conversation. And make sure you subscribe to the Holdin' Court podcast without having any inductance. Yeah, we're back with season three soon. Thank you. Charlamagne, did I keep the same energy?

I don't know, man. You shrunk a little bit. No. Don't do that. No, you love that. Come for me. You love it. I don't know why I asked you. I don't even know man. He shrunk a little bit. No. You love that song for me. You love it. I don't even know why I asked you. I don't even know why I asked you.

I don't even know why you asked me to do it. Lori, have mercy. Hold on. Make sure you watch Equal Justice, too. Thank you. That's right. Thank you. Check your local listings.

Yes. Syndicated. When we come back, Nyla will be joining us past the arc, so don't go anywhere. It's a Friday. Thank you, ladies. It's The Breakfast Club. Come on. Hilarious.

The Breakfast Club. Hilarious. The Breakfast Club. We are stuck in the bigotry of low expectations. What did she say about men? Because I want to put that on a t-shirt. Oh, my goodness. The mediocrity. Morning, everybody. We are The Breakfast Club.

Lauren LaRosa is our special guest host. Ebony K. Williams just left. Good morning. Now it's time for Pass the Aux. Well, actually without Young Nyla. Yeah, without Nyla. Nyla's not here, but we're going to hold it down for her. Okay.

So we all going to pick a song? You want to do that? Yeah. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Okay, you want to start? Okay, yeah. So I will start Little Yachty featuring J. Cole. They released a new record.

It's called The Secret Recipe. Okay. I love J. Cole hopping on everybody's record and giving them features that they need. I want to hear how Yachty sound on that with J. Cole. I want to hear if Yachty snapped in that.

It sound good. You did? I ain't hit a whole record yet. Yeah, he sound good. J. Cole's verse is the verse that everybody's talking about, though. He has a point in that verse

where he says that he feels like the activists hope that we stay in oppression so they can keep getting rich. There's a lot in there. I'm not going to say all activists feel that way, hope that we stay in oppression so they can keep getting rich. There's a lot in there. People that are... I'm not going to say

all activists feel that way, but I do feel like there's some people who wouldn't know what to do if there was actual solutions. It's kind of like when Wile E. Coyote finally catches the roadrunner.

You ever seen that episode where he finally caught the roadrunner and he held him for one second and didn't know what to do with him? Because he ain't know what to do. He'd been chasing him for so long. Yeah, chasing him for so long

he didn't even know what to do with him when he caught him. So he just let him go. Or like the women that's out so long, you didn't even know what to do with him when he caught him. So you just let him go. Or like the women that's out here trying to find the marriages that Ebony talk about once we get him on. Don't talk. Don't. Don't. Don't. Do you want me to call Ebony back in there? I'm talking about you. I'm talking about you. You love just throwing us.

Well, let's get into another song. Who get the next pick? Go ahead, Lauren. So the next song, I actually got to preview this one yesterday. Shout out to Didier and Say Less. CMG, the label, dropped a compilation compilation album and there's a song on there with um money back not money back i'm sorry with glorilla and fabio and it's called cha-cha that's fire ain't it that's hard yeah that's hard that's hard that's hard now what now what do you got, Charlamagne? What's your pick? Uh, man.

Give me some of that street country music. Give me some of that hardcore. Let me tell you something, man. I don't know if y'all know what's going on in these streets, bro. What's up? Talk to us. But NSYNC just dropped a new record, man. What?

NSYNC dropped a new record from the Trolls Band Together soundtrack. What? NSYNC and Justin Timberlake, bro. That's the first collab in, like, decades. I'm telling you, from the Trolls Band Together soundtrack. What? NSYNC and Justin Timberlake, bro. That's the first collab in like decades. I'm telling you, from the Trolls Band Together soundtrack. NSYNC, baby. I'm confused. Isn't Justin Timberlake in NSYNC?

Yeah, but you know. So why does it say NSYNC featuring Justin Timberlake? Why wouldn't they after all these years? It should say that. You don't think so? Come on now. I felt like it was a little shady, but maybe they did it for the search reasons. True.

True. Come on now. Justin Timberlake, because it's search reasons true true justin timberlake because it's always been said that justin timberlake never wanted to reunite with them because he likes to keep himself separate because he is the breakout star and now y'all finally do a song together and it's the n-sync and justin timberlake n-sync was a part of justin timberlake i think y'all focused on the wrong things i mean i mean justin timberlake was a part of n-sync that's like if destiny child does a Child does a song together and then it says

Destiny Child and Beyonce. Y'all would not have a problem with that. Y'all need to cut it out. I wouldn't. Exactly. You see what I'm saying? Period. Let that NSYNC fly one time

from the street. Now you named all the members of NSYNC. Who are the members? Name them again. Justin Timberlake, JC Chavez, Lance Bass, Joey Faton,

and Chris Kilpatrick. His name is no damn Kilpatrick. Chris Kilpatrick. His name is Kirkpatrick. Chris Kirkpatrick. Yes. All right. I'm impressed you know the names. Man, you better stop playing with me. Okay.

All right. Well, that was Past the Aux. Now, you can hit up Nyla for more of her playlist and everything that she got going on. I'm sure she's going to do another Past the A Augs Live shortly and she will be up here next week. Alright, well, now it's time to get into the Mix the People's Choice Mix. I got a shout out to Paw Patrol, the movie. Paw Patrol comes out this weekend as well too. My kids love it. My kids went to

see it a couple of weeks ago and they love it. So if you get a chance, take your kids to go check it out. And let's get to the People's Choice Mix. We throw it back on a Friday. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club, good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy.

We are The Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRosa, our special guest host, is here. And Lauren, thank you so much. Long day. Long day. Yeah, it was a good day, though. It was. It was.

Shout out to Omar Epps. Shout out to Emini K. Williams for joining us. It was a great conversation. I enjoyed it. You know, and I think that the thing about these conversations,'s right nobody's wrong it's just all perspective and i think you know when you can have conversations with people and listen with the intent to understand and not just reply because you're trying to represent for whatever team that may exist on social media the conversations are more productive and i think both of y'all did that today and i think i i think when you really get to hear a person like like i swear when she started talking about

the infertility stuff and the like the shots and all that stuff that that probably was the first time i ever looked at her as a human being but she said that in the commentary the commentary that got everybody riled up she literally said that no she didn't talk about her personal journey i didn't know her personal journey i'm not that tuned into her i just see her clips and i know you know what i mean i know who she is and I just see her clips. But when I literally have never humanized her. And I think when you, regardless if you agree with somebody or you don't, cause we, we're not always going to agree when you put a human in that, that situation. Now I hear her conversation a little bit differently because it's like,

she's really going through something where like, this is coming from a place of love. It doesn't feel like that when you watch it. that is my whole if i want people nobody take anything else from this is like the how you do it and not what you do is important because you don't feel the love through the content sometimes and i know that's purposely done too because it's sharp it hits it's viral i just think that's how she really feels but i will say this this that's what this platform is is it's about just to be able to discuss and have discussions that maybe we all don't agree whether it's ebony k williams or when tyrese came up here or when some of these politicians come up here that's what it's based upon we're not going to agree with everybody that

comes in here you're not going to agree with everything charlamagne says or things that i say or things that lauren says but we we need to be able to have a conversation and try to get to a respectable place where we at least respect each other's opinions we don't have to agree but we just got to respect it, right? Yeah, and I just want us all always, even if you disagree, to still listen. Because you still can learn something. You know what I mean? I think a lot of times

we just shut down. And we don't want to hear what the other person is saying. We just automatically think we right, or we automatically think the people that agree with us are right, when the reality is like, oh, shoot, like Lauren did today. Lauren was like, okay i will say i had to i think in the beginning of it i was very defensive but again it was because of how she came into the conversation not what she was saying but once i was like you know what this isn't going

to get anywhere if i am that way and i actually listened to her story then we could even when i didn't disagree i think that's when the conversation really started so i agree what you're saying but i also think that there has to be accountability on both sides about the approach. And if you don't care about the approach, that's fine too. Like she said, like I'm 40 years old.

I've been doing this. I know what people say. I know how they feel, whatever. I think I'm responsible. I mean, the approach, I get what you're saying about the approach,

but if I don't like what you're saying, I'm gonna feel like your approach is off. But I didn't dislike what she was saying that much. That's not true. If I can come in here nice as possible much if i can come here nice as possible i can come here nice as possible i can say it sweet but if you disagree you're still not going except i don't believe that i don't believe that because i didn't i didn't disagree with the two points that i disagree with enough to feel a way to be like i don't want to hear nothing the only reason i disagreed because what she was saying again i said especially the infertility stuff it's science it's fact you can't get around it the the why did it have why did it have to be

said or why do we have to keep toting this when it comes to black women because even if you're not talking to me when someone sees you saying it they're gonna throw it on me when i go to have that conversation you know what i mean that's what i disagree with but anyway it was but i will say this though too you know uh and this is with most attorneys ebony k williams is an attorney she said that as well too when we talked so she's gonna talk and speak a different way because she's coming from a side of facts and everything that she delivers is going to be factual and when she comes she's assertive because when she's in court she has to be assertive for some people they feel like it's it's spicy it's being aggressive but if you ever talk to an attorney most attorneys talk like that they speak like that and for most it's offensive but it's

just it's just it's just the environment that's where they have to be you know i also learned to how to stand in my like power because people you know when you're a strong person like that people do take it away and it can be especially like working in media i get told all the time like you're so direct and it started to make me feel like well should i figure that out should i change it right but listen it's her When I brought up the point of like, yo, people think you bougie. That's why they don't really hear you. She's like, I can't change that. That's their fault, though.

Exactly. Their perception of you is their fault. Like you said, people think you're too direct. Oh, yeah. People think even in the comments here, they'd be like, oh, it's because she's from TMZ. And it's like, no, I was like this before I got to TMZ. There's nothing wrong with it. But I think I'm speaking for myself as a black woman in the industry i've been working on working in

we're always sometimes like you put into these boxes where like if you're not soft enough the brands won't deal with you if you are too if you're not direct enough you're going to get ran over if you are too direct oh now you angry you upset girl and you doing the most or it's too much sad so you're boxing to this the black journalist box so that's always been something that's been in the back of my mind so if you try to be anything else you won't be authentic exactly so once i started leaning into that it's like everything is going well for me but you do have those times where you're like should i did that a little bit differently but hearing her today i was like no i mean especially if it's working for me like why would i but more so because this is me what else am i going to do i agree all right well when we

come back we got the positive notice the breakfast club good morning morning everybody is dj nv charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club lauren larosa our special guest host is here and let me salute to everybody uh in alabama right now i'm in alabama huntsville alabama a&m you know every year i like to go on an hBCU tour and I just I enjoy it. I like to talk to the students, answer all the questions from communication majors or business and marketing majors just about what we do. And I try to encourage people to take a look at HBCUs when it's when they're thinking and talking about schools and colleges. And this is the time when we get a chance to go week by week to different schools and just display what their schools are all about. And, of course, this week, Alabama A&M is playing Tuskegee for the homecoming game.

So I'll be out here for that. And then Saturday night, I'm in Dallas. So let me salute to everybody out in Alabama and that went to Alabama A&M, all the alumni and everybody. I can't wait to see and talk to you guys some more. But Charlamagne, you got a positive note? I do. And it's simple. It comes from Gandhi. Honest disagreement is often a good sign of progress.

Y'all have a great day. Breakfast Club, bitches! Y'all finished or y'all done?