The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Cardi B Defends Tyla: “People Just Don’t Like Celebrities,” Sha’Carri Richardson Denies Assault, Calls Boyfriend a “Coward” in Arrest Video + Cheryl McKissack Interview

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Cheryl McKissack talks about The Black Family Who Built America, the importance of Black solidarity, and the legacy of McKissack & McKissack. Plus, Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to two teens who broke into railroad facilities, stole a train, and then crashed it. Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Good morning. Shalameen the God. Peace to the planet, it's Thursday. God damn it, no applause, no nothing. How are you laughing like that, man? How are you laughing? I feel blessed black and highly favorite. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners.

What's happening? No, you don't get through it. Yeah, I was laughing at something I was reading online. But, you know, this morning, our producer is running a little late Eddie. And, you know, we're very thin up here. We don't have any bench. So, you know, our guy, Art is in here running the boards. We don't have no.

Bench. Oh, bench. Yeah, so our guy, Art is in here running the boards, but he's usually over on the other side. Okay. He don't know where everything at. But it's all good. He got to figure it out, though. You know, I want to salute to Jess hilarious.

So last night, my daughter and her boyfriend went to go see Jess perform in the Bronx, which was kind of scary for me, her going to the Bronx, but still. But she went last night, and she got there a little late. And I tried to play though because I wanted her true reaction of how she thought Jess was. So I was like, Jess was just the eye, right? And she was like, what? She's like, now Jess killed it. She was like, I was dying from the time I got there to the time it was over.

She said, I didn't see the person before because I was a little late. I came on mom time, but she was like, Jess to show. It's a drop a bomb for Jess. They show so much love. First of all, we know Jess' funny on stage, but listen to what Envy said. I wanted her true opinion, but he tried to lead her. Jess was just a right? That's not what you do when you're trying to get somebody's true opinion.

You just asked him, how was it? She was just aite, right? You leading the witness, stupid. Yeah, but when you do that, you know, it's like she knows I work with Jess or she, you know, sometimes she's like, well, maybe I'm not. Nice, right? Right. She was like, no, no, she was funny, but like, I really wasn't.

But, like, I really was, though. No, she said, you could have said, Jess was funny, right? But no, you said Jeff was just all right, right? I wanted to get the true opinion, but she was like, nah, Jess killed it. She was like she destroyed it. And then Gia last night had a girl's night out to see Chris Brown.

Again? Yes, listen. Yes. She wanted to go see that 300-hour show twice in a row? Yes, what did you send me last night, you can give your girl or your wife the world when she still loved Chris Brown more than you. It don't matter.

She went to see that again twice. I wouldn't say that. No, the first time it was Benz. It was Mercedes that went the night before. Last night, it was Girls Night on Gear went, and because of the storm. Was your wife with Mercedes the night before? No, she was not, sir. She was not.

She came to the show. Okay. She went to the show, we went to go see Jess. Yes, yes. So because of the storm last night, the show was like an hour and a half late, two hours late. So they didn't get back home to late. So it was Daddy Daycare. We were watching movies.

We were eating candy and donuts. We did everything we weren't supposed to do. And we passed out and fell asleep. So they said Chris Brown, it was like, she told me he was the best. She's ever seen since watching Michael Jackson on television. She was like the fact that he performed for three and a half, four hours straight dancing, flying in air. She was like it's something that she's never seen before. And she says she recommends all of her friends and anybody to go see Chris Brown.

She was like it was that hell of a show. Yeah, you just got to be careful when your girl go to see Chris Brown. And she come home real late talking about he killed it. He went three hours. Come on. See, why you think of that? See, why you think of that like that? Is this a man sitting right?

right now in New York or New Jersey listening to those words that his wife said last night you gave my wife you gave you gave Chris my residuals oh yeah shout out to Stacy Stacy came front row was in salsa confuego last night Stacy

you know our guy you know who makes the cupcakes or whatever he was in the front and so I had little gay jokes pop and you know Stacy's so funny because he'd like be real masculine and then he'd be like yeah bitch like you know what I'm saying like you go back to masculine Yo, I love Stacey.

So shout out to him as well, man. And Rob Stableton, man. We killed it last night. It was dope. My brother, Desi Alexander, we ate that up, y'all, so, well, damn. Now, today on the show, we have Cheryl McKisick. She'll be joining us now. For people that don't know who Cheryl McKisick is.

Cheryl McKinick is. Explain to them who Cheryl McKisick is, Daniel, and what their family has done for this country. She is the president and CEO of McKisick. And McKisick, it is the nation's oldest minority and woman-owned design and construction firms. She's black. She is black. She has a new book out called The Black Family Who Built America, the McKissick's

Two Centuries of Daring Pioneers. They are a fifth generation minority and woman-owned design construction firm. They've worked on everything from the Barclay Center to JFK Airport, the Lincoln Building in Philadelphia, just to name a few of the constructions that they've been a part of. And y'all are going to learn something this morning

whether you want to or not. So join us. They are family generational goals. And we're going to talk to them, five generations of families that have been building and supplying jobs. And, oh, man, it's just an inspirational story. You'll hear about them in a little bit.

She'll be here to talk about her family as well as her new book, The Black Family, Who Built America, which is out now on my book in print, Black Privilege Publishing with Simon & Schuster. Hey. All right. Well, let's get the show cracking. Morgan has us up next book, Front Page News,

so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV, Jess Hilarious. Salomey and the Guy, we are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Now in some quick sports, the NBA approves the sale of the Boston Celtics.

Now, they're saying it's going to be gone for $6.1 billion. Yeah, that's about right. That's crazy. I just don't know how these people make money, but I guess it's a long-term investment, right? Like, over time, I guess you'll make your money back, or maybe you'll sell it again in another decade or 15 years for double that. I don't freaking know no more, man.

I don't know. That's a lot of money, though. A lot of money. A lot of money. What's up, Morgan? Hey, ah, hey, so let's get into it. So first on front page, President Trump is congratulating his administration over the crime crackdown in Washington, D.C. Now, yesterday Trump said D.C. will soon be, quote, crime-free with the National Guard, troops, and federal officers on the streets, adding Washington, D.C. will be cleaned up.

Let's take a listen to his comments. We're going to make Washington beautiful. We're going to redo roads. We're going to redo the medians, the pavers, and the medians all throughout the city. We're going to take all the graffiti off. We're going to have to remove the tents. So the president also said that crime stats compiled by local police for the nation's capital were fraudulent, and he insists the numbers are much higher than what was previously reported.

Meanwhile, Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson is speaking out following President Trump's threat to his city to deploy national guards to Chicago to fight crime. Now Johnson called the president one of the biggest threats to humanity, excuse me, and said that we've seen an entire humanity that we've seen. in this entire generation. Now, he said that Trump doesn't have the legal authority to deploy National Guard troops, and he also called on the president to reinstate funding for community violence programs. Let's take a listen to

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson's response to President Trump's threat. Though we take these threats seriously, we would not bow down or succumbed to his tyrant rage. And here are for you guys in New York City,

Mayor Eric Adams weighed in on the controversy this week, saying he welcomes federal help to lower crime in New York City, excuse me, but he says what's happening right now in Washington, D.C. is not something that they need to happen in New York. Now, he said, now, if they want to help, they can help with cracking down on people getting a hold of automatic weapons while mentioning the Las Vegas man who came to New York and killed four people inside that Manhattan office building. So, again, I'll continue

to keep you guys posted on what's happening in D.C. with this Trump takeover and these federal authorities, uh supposedly uh cracking down on crime in the streets so that's your front i i am for doing things to combat crime but you are not truly combating crime if you aren't addressing the social and economic factors that contribute to crime i'm gonna keep saying that give these kids something to do trade schools steam programs job fares better mental health services make the schools better like you know give these kids something to do provide them some type of opportunity so they don't turn the crime to begin with and the fact that i don't

mind is always going to be the devil's playgrounds. So when you've got these kids that come from, you know, certain environments, they're poor and disenfranchised, they're going to turn the crime if they don't have anything positive to do. That's how you make a real investment in the community. And it's a long-term investment. Because to me, this is just a temporary, you know, solution for what has been a permanent problem in our society, which is poverty.

That's right. Well, thank you, Morgan. Everybody else, get it off your chest. $800-58-10.15.15.1. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-585-105-1. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up. Wake your ass. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you are mad or blessed. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Good morning, breakfast club.

Good morning. Who's this? What's your name? I'm not trying to sound sexy. I'm not trying to sound sexy. This is your friendly. friend Nicole Wallace from St. Louis. Peace, Nicole.

And hopefully you guys remember me. My birthday is the same day as the show. Yeah, December, uh, 10th. December 6th, yep. Hey. Yeah. Yo is crazy. You do not know, yeah.

Yes, I do, Nicole. December 6th. St. Louis, what's happening? We love you. What's happening? What's up, Mama? Okay. Well, let me not be rude and say good morning again.

Um, DJ Envy. I'm calling. from the St. Louis metro area. And I was wondering, with your car shows, will you ever come this way or are we too far away? Probably not. I think you guys might be a little too far. The problem with the car show is I always say

getting the cars to markets outside of the East Coast and South is pretty difficult because it's very expensive to get those cars down there. But we're working on sponsorship in those area in the Midwest and West Coast, so hopefully we can bring it down there. Like I said, I don't charge that much for the car show, so it's not like we're making a huge profit.

So getting the cars down there is difficult, but I would love to go to St. Louis. I think that would be cool and maybe rope in Nelly and sexy red and some of the local artists down there and get some of their cars. I just think it would be great. But, you know, we're trying. We try to do two, three markets a year, and maybe St. Louis will be on the next year or the year after, hopefully. Well, I was wondering for next year, how can one become a vendor? All you have to do is just you can email Mercedes Walker Woods, my general assistant, DJMV car show at GM. But next week we'll be in Jersey

Next year we're definitely doing the Carolinas Because so many people from South Carolina and North Carolina Come in all the time And they want me to do it so But hopefully we can get down there And thank you for checking in and asking Okay one more question Hold on give him a Mercedes email again

Size 12 sneaker at gmail.com Yo shut up No It's DJMV call show at gmail.com Oh Okay one more question Charlemagne Yes man

My sister Katie Odie she sent you her book. Did you get it? What's the name of it? Izzy's almost epic day. I'm going to go look. I don't remember receiving that one.

Izzy's almost epic day? I don't think I received that. I'm going to go look, though. Okay, if you guys could please do me a favor and read it, my sister, she is a wonderful, wonderful writer, and the book is so funny. And, Jeff, with you being a professional comedian, I promise you, you're going to laugh.

Oh, I can't wait to read it. You know? She don't even read. Thank you. You're a clown. You're a clown. Well, thank you for checking in, Mama. Get it off your chest.

800, 585-105-1. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Good morning.

This is James. Call from North Carolina. James from the Carolina. What's up, brother? What's going on with you, man? Yeah, I just wanted to get it off. and check about these customer service workers or gas station attendants and whatnot

when they're on their jobs if you're anybody out there that's in them jobs that are listening now when you're on your job man leave your attitude at home and don't be on your phone with personal calls and whatnot and some of them have the nerd

to look at you like you bothering them when they're the ones on the clock I didn't the plot for that job you did like you all you're trying to do is going there and get your little you know, gas station pills, you know what I mean? Your little horny goat weed,

your little pow-wins and that's all you're trying to do. You're just trying to go in there and get your little package and they're bothering you, right? But you've got to understand too. Sometimes they got to deal with a lot of us crazy people with a lot of different attitudes,

so sometimes what we do affect them as well. Yeah, that's all fine and dandy, but if a person is being cordial and nice to you, you don't take that out on them. You're right. But a lot of people that go in there to buy like them gas station pills like the extends and stuff, they be having

an attitude because they think that the person behind the county is judging them when they buy this stuff for their erectile dysfunction, right? So I understand your pain. Yo, you... I don't buy any of that stuff, man. We see what Charlamagne gets it from. All right.

Exactly. Thank you, man. Thank you, brother. Hello, who's this? Hi, my name is Christina. Hey, Christina. Get it off your chest, mama. Okay, hi.

Well, good morning, by the way. I'm on a freeway. I was going to work. But I was calling regarding what Charlamagne was talking about with children needing something to do as educational or trade schools and things like that. Yes, ma'am. Well, what I personally believe is you're absolutely right.

These kids do need something to do. With the cost of inflation, they see their parents struggling and stuff like that. What are they to do? Just watch the parents struggle, get kicked out of their place, their house or whatever like that. Food is high. Everything is chipple or devil.

You know, it doesn't make any sense. Like, we really need our representatives, our state representatives in Congress to actually get out there and fight for the youth because who are the future? You know, they are the future. Who is the future? No, I'm sorry. I'm on a freeway. No, I'm with you. We know exactly what you're saying.

This quote Whitney Houston. I believe that children are the future. Teach them well and let them lead the way. It's terrible. But I will say this, ma'am, we have to make having a job cool again. Because there's a lot of businesses out there if you ask, they're looking for employees and a lot of people don't want to work. They feel like the job is beneath them And it's not cool to work

You know All of us up here has worked You know a job that we only got paid minimum wage But we did it to help our family Or to help ourselves I didn't did telemarketing I worked at the U.S. Open Charlemagne worked out thinking Wendy's for a day

Taco Bell boy Oh Taco Bell for a day That's so much better Yes but I also saw crack But let me tell you something NB is right people do need a job But what we got to do is really invest Into these kids futures

That's why I keep stressing in trade schools. We need to have STEAM programs. You need to have job fares. You got to implement things that these kids are going to be able to use long term. Like that's the real investment

that needs to happen in our community. Also, fair wages because some of the places, they're still hiring a wage that's not livable. You know, everything, like I said, high, very high, expensive, you know, and my mortgage is expensive,

but my property tax is expensive. When you're a young, when you're in the youth and you're watching your parents struggle, you know, and food is really high. Everything is just gone up ridiculously. And, you know, it's sad. It's sad.

And trade school, I feel like it is important. Hell yeah. Like, all for nothing for the kids. Give them some type of incentives to look forward to. So when they do get older, they can, like, reach out to the youth once again and let it be a trickle down effect. That's right.

Because it's bad. Trade school and steam programs. And that's what I'm saying, anybody that's talking about combating crime, If you're not addressing the social and economic factors that contribute to crime, then you're not really serious about it. You can sit all the police you want into these areas, but these kids, it's going to be a never-ending cycle because you're still not doing anything to keep these kids from turning into a life of crime. Yeah. That's right.

And let me salute to Lincoln Tech. Lincoln Tech is a trade school all over the country. You should definitely check them out if you're thinking about it. They got automotive. They have welding. They have electrical. They have HVAC. And now they have the new CDC program where they can actually build things out of nothing.

check out Lincoln Tech. That's why I support Lincoln Tech so much. Where is Lincoln Tech, yo? They have them everywhere. They got them in Jersey. They got them in Maryland. They got them in the South. They got them in Texas, Atlanta.

They're all over the country. Got you. Get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1. If you need to vent, you could definitely give us a call. Now, Lauren, you got the latest coming up? Yes, I do. Cardi B.

It's talking about Jay-Z clearing imaginary players and what that process is like. She's getting into all the details, so we are going to talk about it. So she is saying. Impelling imaginary players. Charlemagne was correct. He did.

No, I just told you all behind the scenes. No, it was on there. We didn't said it. Oh, no, but he wasn't in. I told him behind the scenes. That's what's up. Yeah, but she's talking a bit about the process. And you know, some people are like,

should she do it? Should she not? She said she got the approval that matters, which was his. That's true. So she's moving full. We're going to get on all the things. All right. We'll get to that next.

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Yes, it's the world. The most dangerous morning show The Breakfast Club. Shalameenegu, the guy, DJ NB, Just Hilarious. And now it's time for the latest with Lauren. Lauren becoming a straight fit.

Live. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details. I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on this. The latest with Lauren La Rosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details.

Sometimes she have a little bit everything. Well, it's the latest. On the breakfast club. Talk to me. All right, y'all. So we are going to get into Cardi B. and all the things, but really quickly, before we go there, I did want to send a congratulations to

Beyonce, talking about women in music. Beyonce won her first Emmy Award this week for her Netflix special, Beyonce Bowl, which was the concert she did at Christmas and on Christmas in Texas that streamed on Netflix. And this puts her halfway at EGOT status

because she has Grammys and now she has an Emmy. So congratulations to her. They own Emmys for Beyonce? What the hell of their Emmys belong? So they haven't actually come on you. yet. This was the juryed Emmy. So the way that the juryed Emmys are set up,

there's like a panel or a group of people or like her peers or professionals that get together, they vote, and then they make a decision. But she is nominated for two other categories. So she won the Emmy for outstanding costumes for variety, nonfiction, and reality programming.

And so basically the looks within the Netflix special. Oh, okay. Yeah, because she was listed, you know, she's been listed as executive producer and also is live performer but she's also nominated for Outstanding Variety Special Live and she's also nominated for Outstanding

Directing for a Variety Special. So how this goes is the jury Emmys, like I said, they sit down and they have a conversation, they vote and then they make a decision. That's the first Emmy that she has. But the additional Emmys will come on and they'll actually stream so it takes place in LA at the Peacock Theater, Saturday,

September 6 and Sunday September 7. Boy, you learn something new every day. Beyonce got her own Emmys. Who new? Yeah. Was anybody else get submitted like that? Yeah, so it's not just, they didn't make it just for Beyonce. This happens all the time. I can't tell. Let my narrative sound better.

Damn, the Emmys got their own, Beyonce got her own Emmy. Period. She got her own internet. It's Beyonce's Emmys. Wow. And Shorty works hard. Yes. She works very hard.

I saw something with it. Before she did this tour, no, before she did the Renaissance store, she broke a knee or something like that. It was like a knee injury. She had to have surgery on her knee. I'm sorry. Yeah, she didn't break her knee, but she had to have surgery on her knee. This was before the Renaissance store. So, man, she definitely works very hard.

Yeah. And there was that video member. She was taking a picture with, I believe it was, I forget which one of the former Destiny Child members, but they came to the tour with their kids and she sat. She bent down and was like, oh, my knee. And people was like, God, please don't take Beyonce needs from us. We need the knees. Okay, Latoya, yeah, LaToya, yeah.

I mean, it can only be LaToya or Latavia. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know which one. Yeah. But, yeah, it was Latoya's niece. But yeah, so congratulations to Beyonce. I did want to go there because then we were about to talk about. Cardi B. So Cardi B, we've been talking about imaginary players, which is a single that she has coming

off of her new album that will be here soon, the new album, Am I the Drama. Now, she talked about Jay-Z, because a lot of people were trying to figure out, would this be a sample of Jay-Z's imaginary players, which we confirmed in the room? And Cardi B is now talking about her experience with clearing the record and people taking to listen early. There's a lot of hip-hop heads in the building, and they heard imaginary players, and they absolutely love it and I was so happy because I don't think you guys understand the song is kind of long this song is like a staple for me I have to get it approved by you one and only and if he didn't approve

it I probably would even feel a certain type of way neither because it would have been like okay maybe I just had to come a little bit harder but I'm glad that I came hard and love it and everybody else love it and somebody came up to me and they said I'm not even going to lie when you are nouns that you was doing many players. I was a little nervous, but you ate that. And I was like, yay. If Jay-Z didn't like it, it wouldn't have gotten clear. So I'm very

interested in hearing it on Friday. Me too. I am too. I'm so excited. And I love the way that naturally, I mean, I feel like Cardi is, she's become one of the queens of, like, rollout. She has, like, her visuals all the time and the photos and all that. This is a real rollout. Yes, but I love that this feels like a real rollout. But I also love that I feel like we're experiencing

the dropping of the songs and the experience of her getting things sampled in real time. with her. Like she's going through it. She's getting online talking about it. It's very like how Cardi is. It feels like we're going along the journey of the album with her. So I love that feeling as well. But Cardi also... I will say, though, if the song isn't good, then not only are they going to get at Cardi, they're going to get at Jay-Z-2. Yeah, for signing off on it. Yes. Very much so. Well, but I think, I think like she said, if he didn't, if he didn't sign off on it, right, then she would feel like, all right, I had to come harder. So she

might have man it might be some some fires some bars she dropped she might go crazy on it it's actually harder for you know people my age people born in the 1900s to hear that record because we've grown up on imaginary players imaginary players is so much a part of our DNA so I got to

get that out of my head completely wash that off my palate to take in Cardi on Friday yeah I get what you're saying I think people hold on to that yes I do you were more than 1970s I don't mean I get it because I'm as old as you I meant that I got it because I get that you know y'all you hold on to your things like your prices and how they used to be in all that stuff that you yell about where you hoard wigs and you know you should have thrown out a long time ago okay all right well next speaking of people um and potential backlash with cardi b cardi b also talked about on a late night uh twitter spaces tyler she defended tyler because tyler has been under some scrutiny recently let's take a listen whether i speak or not people are going to talk

look at tyler people been dragging the shit out of tyler and it's like the girl don't even a dress or talk about nothing i'm starting to feel that people just don't like celebrities the only way that people like celebrities if you don't say nothing at all and they beat your energy they beat your confidence they beat you to the ground to be honest with you i don't even know the hate about it because I never really got into the details of what is the real hardcore thing. However, all I do know is every single time I scroll down on my TikTok, there's a video of her and people are talking shit. And it's like, damn, what do you guys want her?

What do you want her to fucking do? Cut her veins? Like, enough. That's exactly what they want, body. They want blood. That's exactly what they want because people are sitting at home and their lives are miserable. So they always want to defecate on somebody who looks like they're. loving their life. But what the hell did Tyler do?

So, you know, the ethnicity conversation and that whole thing when she called herself a colored woman. They're still on that? Yes, and even in like the art because... Very much so. They're heavy on that. So she's releasing music and trying to, you know, move on with her life and when things don't do well, a lot of people right now are having a conversation

about if those comments are the reason why she's not translating well, especially here in the year. She put out music? Yeah, she put out a project of, go ahead. But even when she had, like, her brand deal, like she had a brand deal with uh what's the headphones thing uh the beats they all up under that they like her rollout for beats like it was everybody comments like they swarm her with just hate because uh she won't speak directly to uh clarifying what she meant by her color women quite a few times well i mean that

that's that's that's what carty is talking about though they they keep they american history is full of wise people what women said something like you know 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory. Those founding fathers were gossipy A.F. And they love to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history, and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer.

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Keep saying it. Yeah. They're still running with it. Like she hasn't explained. So in July, she put out a mixtape called WWP, but people just been having to have. having a conversation about like how well the music is or isn't sticking like you ask like oh she put out music and at one point Tyler was when her music dropped you felt the songs like you knew Tyler she was everywhere on the radio she was everywhere but

people are basically saying that now um you know fans are just not feeling it as much as she was so beloved when she first came out you know a hit record right like like she had that hit record water that's hard to do again that's why the people like the Beyonce's or the who else the Taylor Swift they get the Rihannas they get celebrated because they've had multiple hits. The drakes of the world, the kind of, when you're able to create multiple hits, Cizzer, multiple hits over years and years, that's

hard to do. Maybe she just don't have a hit. But her music is good. It's just that when you put that on top of somebody not liking you because you say, like, influence is a thing. But hit records transcend all of that. There's plenty of people folks don't like, but they come out with a hit record.

A good record don't mean it's a hit record. There's a difference. I will say, though, I think people just like a narrative with Tyler because she has a song with, I was trying to look at the name is with Wiz Kids called Dynamite. I believe it's off of WWP. And people love that song. But I think it's just, it depends on who you're talking to, TikTok

and different people in a lot of online conversations. Is it a top 10, top five, number one on Billboard? Is it water? That's what I'm saying. Her first song. When you got an undeniable bop, that's exactly it's undeniable. Yeah. Can't nothing stop an undeniable bop. I was trying to see

I was trying to see what made Billboard from the mix tape, but I don't have it right now. So, yes, let's end wrapping up. Shout out to Tyler, man. Y'all are day rough on her. Yeah, shut up to Tyler. Listen, we got front page news coming up next with Morgan Woods. It's the world's most dangerous morning to show the breakfast club. Morning, everybody.

It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Salomey and the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. What up, Morgan? Hey, y'all. So let's get into it in international affairs.

President Trump says his virtual meeting with Ukrainian President Zelenskyy was a 10. He said that he'd rate the call that also included Vice President Vance and European allies, and the call came prior to his summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday in Alaska. Trump again said the Ukraine-Russia war is not his, and it belongs to President Biden, but he said he'll impose severe penalties on Russia if Putin won't agree to a deal. Let's take a listen to President Trump's plan to end the conflict. If the first one goes okay, we'll have a quick second one. I would like to do it almost immediately and we'll have a quick second meeting between President Putin and President Zelensky and myself if they'd

like to have me there. Yeah, so again, Zelensky has said that Ukraine will not give up any territory to Russia and it will not give up trying to gain NATO membership. Now, Russia has demanded Ukraine give up land to reach the deal to end the war. Now, President Trump's meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin will not be diving into issues surrounding territory, and European leaders confirmed President Trump assured them of his plans during the meeting with Ukrainian President Zelensky. Now, according to reports from the Wall Street Journal, Trump told leaders he would negotiate territorial issues, or excuse me, he would not negotiate territorial issues as that matter

when he meets with Putin on Friday in Alaska. So territory and all that movement of land and all of that stuff is off the table as of right now. And it should be, you know, if Trump can't stop any of these wars, it really shows how weak America has looked at on the global stage. Like, he couldn't stop Israel from waging war on, you know, Gaza, which I don't think they want that to stop. And if he can't stop the Ukraine, you know, Russia war, you know, it really is another campaign promise that he did not keep.

He said that he was going to stop all of these wars immediately on day one. He actually said these wars wouldn't happen if he was in office, you know. So if he can't stop any of these wars, it really shows how weak America, is looked at on the global stage now. All right now. So switching gears, the Texas Senate approved the new congressional maps Tuesday in an effort to give Republicans more seats in the House of Representatives. Now, the district maps still need to be approved by the Texas State House, which has been in a standstill since Democrats left the state to protest that move.

Now, nine Senate Democrats walked out yesterday to protest what they called a corrupt process. The effort to redraw the maps came on the, at the request of President Trump. Now, a special session in the Texas legislature now ends on Friday, but Republicans are not giving up their plan to redraw those congressional boundaries. House Speaker Dustin Burroughs says the governor is committed to calling as many special sessions as needed to pass redistricting. Let's take a listen to House Speaker Dustin Burroughs. If we still do not have quorum on Friday, the governor will immediately issue a proclamation for a second called special session. He is committed to calling us back again and again and again until our work is. done. Interesting fact about these special sessions. They cost apparently the state more than

one million dollars when you factor in lawmaker pay security and electricity for the capital building. So that's paid out to the legislature's operating budget, meaning there is less cash for other things. And of course, this comes as a report says Democrats are actually prepared to return to Texas over the weekend because that special session ends on Friday. So we'll see what comes of that. Remember, they're supposed to be facing fines and possible arrests and things of that nature. So we'll see what happens

as those Dems supposedly return back to Texas for this congressional map. And this is my last story. Back in D.C., back in Washington, D.C., a man is facing federal charges after throwing a sub-style, hokey-style sandwich at Customs, at ICE, basically. Customs and Border

Protection agents who were patrolling with Metro Transit Police on Sunday. His name is Sean Dunn, and he's seen in a viral video, approaching the officer while saying they are not wanted in D.C. After several minutes of confrontation of him being in his face and cursing and saying some other thing, Dunn then hits the officer in the chest with the sandwich. Now, he then took off running, and it seems like they caught up with him. He was later arrested and admitted to the incident while being processed.

Dunn has not yet entered a plea, and a court records show no attorney listed for his defense. Man, that's sad, man. What kind of sandwich was it? You stupid? You stupid? There is a subway nearby, though, so it could have been a subway. But I just want to say this to people who don't know. You know, a lot of people have these state laws and things like that.

D.C. is always just the feds. I'm going to just go ahead and put it out there like that. If you want to come to D.C., just understand that you're going to always be dealing on a federal level. So everything in terms of charges is going to be amplified. You can't come out here and do something. thing, you know, and break the law. And it's going to be an easy task. I'll just say that.

Even parking tickets can tend to be a little difficult. So for someone who is coming into D.C., to the mayor's point, as she said earlier this week, just follow the laws. That's all the said. So that's your front page news. Morgan Wood. Y'all can follow me on socials at Morgan Media. And for more news coverage, follow at Black Information Network.

Download the free IHeartRadio app and visit us at VINNews.com. Thank y'all and be safe. All right. Now, when we come back, we have the president and CEO. Oh, of McKiswick and McKisick, the nation's oldest minority in women-owned design and construction firm. Cheryl McKisick, Daniel, we'll be talking to Hunter. She has a new book out, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club.

Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Salomey and the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren La Rosa is here with us as well. And we got a special guest in the building. Yes, we do.

Her new book is out right now. The Black Family Who Built America. Ladies and gentlemen, she's back. Cheryl McKissick, Daniel. Welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Good to see you.

Good to see you, too. You look younger. I love that. That's right. That's right. Okay. Whatever he's doing, I need some of that. So for people that didn't hear when you came up here last time or didn't read the book yet,

explain what your family has done for this country. The black family who built America. Break it down from your great, great grandfather, how he started and where it came from it. Moses. Moses, McKiswick, the first. That's right. Okay. So let me start with saying, I am the proud CEO of a.

fifth generation business in America. And I know Charlemagne keeps calling it seven generations. He's just calling in the girl behind me and her children. He got in trouble for that. I remember today. One of the producers was like, it's fifth generation. I keep saying seven. I thought it was

seven years. Because that's what it's going to be. Yeah, he's manifesting. That's right. He's manifesting. So we date back 230 years in this country starting with the first descendant of our family, Moses McKinick, the who came to this country in 1790 as a slave and was taught the trade of making brick.

His son was Moses McKizick the second, and he was a master carpenter, and he actually started in North Carolina, but he was given as a gift to the Cheers family in Nashville, Tennessee, or Spring Hill, and so that's when the McKizs moved from North Carolina to Tennessee. he had seven girls and then seven boys and his first son is Moses McKizick the third and his brother

Calvin and they became the first black licensed architects in America. They were known because they traveled all through the Northeast and the south. They built over 6,000 churches. They built 13, 14

historically black colleges. All the colleges all the buildings at Fiske University are pretty much designed by Calvin and Moses McKisick Mahary Medical School Tennessee State University what's the one in Tuskegee

and so they worked all through the south they also got an opportunity to go to Haiti and work with paper Papa Doc and then over to Africa so these men were very innovative. And the company was then passed down

to my father, William DeBerry McKissick. And so now we're four generations in, if you haven't lost count. And then the company was passed down to my mother, who was a fiercely involved by herself. And then eventually I

stepped in and took over the company as the fifth generation. You know what I love about that? And I joke with my kids all the time, right? And I said, you know, when I pass, I'm saying, I'm going to reveal everything. I said, but there's one thing that I need. And I said, I want to put a family portrait of me and my wife

in the house. And they said, well, why? I said, a lot of times in our family, we forget about grandfathers, great-grandfathers, and what they've established and brought to us because it's like time moves so fast. Especially the great-grandparent. So the fact that you can break down all that,

you know, your kids will be able to break that down. Your grandkids will be able to break that down. And that's something that I feel like we miss. You know, when people past, you know, we're sad, and then we forget about it. But these are the people that started our lives, started generational wealth we talk about all the time. And I feel like, especially in black families, we should have that.

We should know, like, I don't know my great-grandfather. I don't know much about him because my grandfather didn't talk about it. My parents didn't talk about them, but it's one of those things that's like we move on. And I love the fact that that is so built into your family that y'all keep talking about that you keep mentioning, and you keep talking about the great things that your family has done. I love that. You know, what you just said is so powerful, but it's so easy to record what's happening in your family. Just do a family tree.

Just start a family tree with the individuals that you do know. I remember being, like, nine or ten years old, my mother said, look at this, we just found a family tree. And I'm like, I was fascinated by it. So that was the beginning of me really trying to get this story out. I remember taking that family tree to my father's office and turning it into a real structural plan. I mean, it was like as huge as a blueprint for a building because it dated back to my great, great grandfather. But I kept losing it. I mean, I totally redid it, beautiful print.

everything. And lost. Can't find it. So now when it's time to do the book, I'm like, well, the one thing we need is a family tree because people will get lost in the shuffle reading all of this. So a couple weeks ago, I go visit my mother and I'm cleaning out one of her jewelry. And bam. That's the family tree.

The original one I saw from the very beginning. That's God. And so what I would say to everyone is just start writing it down and have someone responsible to keep it and track it. That is why we ended up giving a lot of

our artifacts to the African American Museum on the mall because I kept losing the original license. Well, you put them in

your office. Actually, we store them and we make replicas of the license and of the pictures and things like that.

But then when it comes time when you move, you're like, oh my God, where is it? I told Chen, my PR consultant, I said, Chan, I am tired of losing this.

What are we going to do? She said, we're going to give it to the museum and they will keep it forever. And so that's important that, you know, we keep up with our family legacy because everyone has one. You see what all the time with, you know, when you see white people, like they do it all the time, right? Like, love them or hate them. You know who Donald Trump's father is, right? You know who Donald Trump's grandfather is, right? Because he talks about him all the time.

story about his father that gave him a million dollars, you hear those stories. But that's easy, though. But a lot of times... I just the great, great grandparents that you end up losing track of. Your father and your grandparents, that's easy because that's pretty much a generation. Like Trump's son and Trump's grandson will always know about the grandfather that gave

Donald Trump the million dollars to start his business. Some of them knew them, though. Yeah, you know what I mean? But, you know, those stories always talk because you hear about the stories and we need to talk about hours more. I think it's a little different for us, too, because, like, when my grandmother, she always talks about how, like, they weren't, they didn't keep record of things because they just, it wasn't something that was normal

in the household. Like, you didn't have pictures of certain people. You didn't. So then that gets passed down. It's just something you don't know to do. Also, it's black people, they just didn't care about us and doesn't give us our records. Right. Your birth records, they threw them out. They didn't care. But I still think you can find it.

It's just genealogy and getting a genealogist to help you go through it. I mean, we went back, well, with Nick Chiles, we went back to Spring Hill, Tennessee and went through records. of, you know, the slaves that were actually working on the McKiswick House and the Chears House. And there were records, you know, I mean, they try to erase them, but they can't. I mean, they're graves.

So I think everyone can contract their family history. We're still kicking in with Cheryl McKizek, Daniel, the president and CEO of McKizek and McKisick. Now, that's the nation's oldest minority in women-owned design and construction firm. She has a new book out right now. Charlemagne. When I read this book and I see how this empire started in the 1800s, it reminds me of how resilient black people are. We can navigate our way through anything. So it gave me a sense of hope, especially for the times that we're in now.

Has it always given you that sense of part? Yeah. I mean, you know, if you think about it, one in five businesses fell the first year. 65% fell in 10 years. And the average family business only lasts 24 years. Now, the chances for a family business to pass down to a second generation is like 60%. The chances of it pass into a third is 14. I mean, to a third is 14%.

And to a fourth generation is 3%. So here we are at five generations. And so I think what we do in the book is we make a case as to how the McKinnisks were able to do that. and it goes all the way back to slavery. So slavery was different in every state. You know, like North Carolina was probably the most lenient of slaves at the time compared to, let's say, Alabama and some other states. South Carolina. South Carolina.

And really it's because they didn't have as many of the huge plantations. Slave masses have more like 12, 13, 14, 14, 15 slaves. So the slaves were more like. extended family. They weren't really, they didn't have to be suppressed. Because just think about it. We went to Spring Hill, Tennessee, and we saw a plantation where there was a family of five people, but there were 300 slaves working for them. So who had the power? Right. So you have to suppress the 300 people if you want to survive. And so it wasn't like that in North Carolina. So we made. make that case that, you know, the leniency of slavery in that state must have helped the

McKizooks gets where they are. And then the fact that slave masters after slavery still needed the craft and services that we provided, so they put us in business. And so the McKinnisks were put in business by their slave masters. Moses McKissick, the second, had his first company. And so, you know, this was during the time where we had Tulsa, so we had the Black Wall Street. And this was all over the country happening. I mean, this did not change until birth of a nation. And I don't know if you read that in the book. But that's why I was so excited to launch the book last week in Martha's Vineyard at the African-American Film Festival.

because it is the complete opposite of what was happening in Hollywood a hundred years ago with birth of a nation that depicted us as ignorant, subhuman, sexual predators. And, you know, it scolded white people who thought maybe we should reach out. You know, they're trying to figure out what to do. You were a slave one day and now you're a business the next day. They're patronizing you. Some people are just, they're good people. And so this film scolded them and said to them, listen, if you patronize these businesses or if you have any empathy or sympathy for black people, you shouldn't.

And then for others who hated us, it gave them the license to just kill us. And instilled more fear in them as to why they should never give us any political power. I mean, the fear is still here today. And that was the rebirth of the Ku Klux Klan. You know, this end, because it was economically so successful, it was really like the beginning of Hollywood. So Hollywood was birthed with this racial movie about black people. So now to be in Martha's Vineyard and to go to all of those black films,

that really tell the truth about us. You know, all the women aren't skinny with long, blonde hair. Yeah. You know what I mean? I went to see Ebony Canal, which is about the problem we're having with black women pregnancy, getting pregnant, delivering healthy children, and our children living past a year. You know, and I was so glad to see that the women really did. look black. Nothing was sanitized.

And that's what we have to do is tell our stories. And that's what our book does. It's a receipt. You know, I'm glad that you bought the TV part of it up because I remember when they were going to turn your story into a television show with Paramount. And I'm like, that's never probably going to happen now, right? But it's because when you showcase these type of stories, and I'm glad we're able to publish the book, but when you showcase these type of stories, it provides inspiration.

It does the exact opposite of what films like the birth of a nation would do. Yes. Yeah. Because that was detrimental. I mean, because of that, I believe, is the root of Tulsa being burned and, you know, Chester, Pennsylvania, all across the nation where black people were thriving. If they had just left us alone right now, this picture would be totally different than it is today. I do have to ask, you know, when I speak to a lot of black company. owners and construction company owners

they say one of the hardest things is these companies don't pay out when they're supposed to right so it's like you know let's say they have a net 30 net 60 net 90 we're supposed to get paid in these times and it's like a lot of times they feel like especially with the black companies they don't have the necessarily the money to hold

until they actually do get paid do you have to deal with that a lot when it comes to these companies when you're building these things and things like that because a lot of companies actually fold because they're owed money and they just can't survive oh you got to read the book financial clearance no that's definitely a problem

okay when you and it seems like it seems like it happens to us more than others okay so the bottom line is real estate and construction is a capital intense business right you gotta have some serious money some serious relationship if you're building airports

schools you know anything in New York I mean, renovating a kitchen is a million dollars in New York. Okay, so you. Crazy. You go to have money. And so it's very difficult to bridge that gap as a new contractor coming in. And so what we do is we create what's called an impress account. So let's take JFK Terminal 1.

And, you know, this is the difference between having, you know, having black ownership at the top of the food chain because we have Jim Reynolds, Luke Capital, and Magic Johnson. But we were able to do an impress account, meaning we could pay contractors

extremely quickly before 30 days. Because the bottom line is if your construction is faulty in any way, you're going to see it. As long as you're inspecting on a regular basis, you're going to

see if there's a problem. So if a contractor, you know, gets paid a little bit more and they still have to come back and fix something. So what? Contractors are used to tearing down a wall and putting it back up as long as you catch it. And so that helps contractors a lot because cash flow is extremely important here because if you miss your union dues by a few days, your workers don't show up and the union doesn't mess around with that they want their union dues and they want the union to be paid so you got to pay for that you got to get your materials to the job so when you're a contractors a lot of that money is flowing from you to to other sources if it's your payroll if it's your equipment or what have you and you're only keeping a fraction of it to yourself and so

if you don't get paid on time or if you have to borrow money that's eating into your actual profit and so yeah that that is a serious problem access to capital we're still kicking it with Cheryl McKissick Daniel the president and CEO of McKisick and McKisick now that's the nation's oldest minority in women own design and construction firm she has a new book out right now Charlemagne you talk this about some of the challenges you face when y'all were involved with the Barclays Center in Brooklyn you know that was when I look back on that experience, it was probably one of the best. Because I remember sitting just watching TV and hearing Bruce Radner was going to buy this team and build this arena.

And I knew Brooklyn was, you know, had a high percentage of African Americans and that the politicians there were strong and they were going to make sure that minorities or African Americans were a part of this development. And so I remember just thinking, okay, let me make a list of all the black politicians, ministers, people who run organizations, and I'm going out and I'm meeting all of them. And in the first four or five, I met Bertha Lewis. And you're talking about a force of nature. I mean, Bertha Lewis was well respected because if you didn't respect her, she was going to pick it your sight and, I mean, really turn it out. So she became really good friends with Bruce Radner.

She had a real knack for finding compromise. You know, some people are all or nothing. She found great compromise. And so people like Bruce Radner respected her. The next thing I know, she's flying around on his plane. And I'm like, okay, she's. in. I know I'm in. And that's how it works. You know, it's important that we really work together as a race. You know, all of us working together make a difference, you know, like Charlemagne,

you saying, I will publish your book. That is black solidarity. That is really working together. That is when black people, when I can go in a room and I can talk about you and you're not there and I can say something positive and support you, that's what we need to happen all the time. We need sponsors at high levels doing that all the time. The Jim Reynolds and Magic Johnsons, I can't talk about them enough and what they've done. We're at a billion dollars at JFK Terminal 1 spent with MWBE firms because of their leadership, their risk. They're rich. It was a risk for them to own this airport and putting their money where their mouth is. And so we were able to help local black firms in Queens, in Manhattan, in Brooklyn.

I mean, it's a beautiful story. I can go back to, and this is in the book, I was in Martha's Vineyard for the launch of the book, and Wendy and George Van Amson walked in. So Wendy and George are in my book because when I had my first, First payroll that I could not make, I called five black investment bankers, and they all gave me money. They all let me borrow money from them, and they were two of them. At first, I got the wife first, and she said, I'm going to make George write you a check, too. You know, and that's how we have to do it.

That's right. We have to work together. And so Barkley Arena is that story, you know, working with Landell McMillan. Roger Green, black politician back then. You know, they went into Bruce Radner with Bertha Lewis and they said, listen, we don't care who you bring in on the majority side, but you're going to work with McKisick and McKisick. Because that's who we want, because we know that they're going to pay it for it. They're going to make sure our community goes to work. And so Barclay Arena is like all of that coming together, black solidarity.

coming together and making it happen. Tell us about the merch that they asked. Okay. That y'all didn't bring us, by the way. I know. We ran out in the vineyard. Everybody, everybody wanted a t-shirt. Well, that's amazing.

And it is, it's really catchy. But they ask and the back said, Hey, says, what if I could promise you you never had to listen to a condescending finance bro? Tell you how to manage your money again. Welcome to Brown Ambition. This is the hard part when you pay down those credit cards. If you haven't gotten to the bottom of why you were racking up credit or turning to credit cards, you may just recreate the same problem a year from now. When you do feel like you are bleeding from these high interest rates, I would start shopping for a debt consolidation loan, starting with your local credit union, shopping around online, looking for some online lenders because they tend to have fewer fees and be more affordable. Listen, I am not here to judge. It is so. expensive in these streets. I 100% can see how in just a few months you can have this much credit card debt when it weighs on you. It's really easy to just like stick your head in the

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it's Teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you. The story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president? Chappaquittic is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. And he's not the only Kennedy.

to survive a scandal. The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week, we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Sometimes it's hard to remember, but... Going through something like that is a traumatic experience, but it's also not the end of their life. That was my dad, reminding me and so many others who need to hear it, that our trauma is not our shame to carry and that we have big, bold, and beautiful lives to live after what happened to us.

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That's us. My name is Curley. And I'm Maya. In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heart breaks, men, and, of course, our favorite secrets. Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Michael Thura podcast network available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Who built this? And the reason why that's significant is because people walk in their own church. They can walk in a hospital, walk through a train station.

People can say, oh, it feels nice. I like this environment. But no one says, well, who built this? No one asked the question, who designed this? You know, is there a connection between Terminal 1 and JFK and LaGuardia Central Terminal? Like, who built this? And so we want to bring awareness to that for people to say, who built this and for

people to get interested in the real estate design and construction profession. And of course, we say we did. That's right. That's amazing. That's amazing. My husband always does that, though. He does ask like, wherever we go

sometimes, but I don't know who built this. He really does. But he's also Mexican. Please. Don't want, please. Michelle, it's not even, don't even get that new light over there. He asked that all the time We go to museums

We go to stuff He'd be like, I wonder who built this Like he always Well maybe he has a You know He likes construction Or Miss McKissick though

Oh Where did you think she was going Exactly where she went Maybe Maybe Because you know how they are You know Maybe like construction a little bit

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We appreciate you for joining us so much. The book is available everywhere you buy books right now from Cheryl McKissack, Daniel. You are black history. That's right. You know, we always be reading stuff in history books and, you know, wondering who these people were. We got living, breathing, black history sitting with us every day, still out here. So we need to celebrate it, appreciate it, learn about it, and know about it.

So when they asked who built it, you could be like, oh, I know her. I just saw her on Breakfast Club. Exactly. That's what I'm telling you. I love it. I'm going to tell my husband next time, Cheryl McKisset. That's right. Babe, I know that.

I know her. Tell him that every single time. I got him some water. Yes, and I know. And tell him if he wants to go and design and construction, come see me. All right, all right, Ms. Sherylkill. Wow. You need a job.

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Well, let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren becoming a straight fit. Tell her, man. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details. I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest. The latest on this.

The latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit everything. Well, it's the latest. On the breakfast club. Talk to me. Okay, y'all, so Shakari Richardson, there is now additional body cam that was released from the incident with her and her boyfriend, Christian Coleman, in the airport in

Seattle. Now, this additional body cam shows a whole, no remorse whatsoever for Chakari had for Christian in the situation. She came out and did that whole. whole apology but this video definitely back hands that whole apology and accountability thing let's take a listen to Shakari Richardson the additional body cam yeah do you name my ID for a way if I'm if you're not a possible assault assault oh Chris is okay I'm so sorry I'm just making sure

it's not him that reported it or one of the TSA folks reported I want to TSA people because I can definitely have evidence of him also can meet if possible What am I under arrest for? Christian, are you serious right now? Okay. You're not arrest for assault for DNA. I didn't assault him, though. He had video on cameras.

Thank you, Christian. Don't talk to him right now. Okay, I won't. Do I, am I going to go actually to jail right now? Christian, I'm not going to jail because of you right now. So are y'all going to arrest him? I'm not going to person charges what him did. Yeah, y'all didn't see me put hands on me, but y'all thought me put hands on him.

So, okay. And y'all didn't even listen to the one side of the story, but child except the fact I wasn't going to be. Video? I'm in a domestic violent relationship and y'all catch her new. I can show you proof of me being in a domestic violent relationship. I don't know how you continue in a relationship after that. I don't know.

I got vibe that. If we're together, I don't know how you could. What do you mean Hussein? What about him? Yes. Yeah. Like, she was just ready to throw him on the box. If I can provide, I mean, if y'all give me a chance, I got videos of him assault me. Like, if it need to be, like, God, Jesus.

The ill part of that, though, when she said, Christian, are you serious right now? She started to say, I'm going to beat you. You wait until I get it. She stopped herself. She stopped this stuff. Like, I'm a beach. The way she looked in the video, I was like, oh, they do this. This is a dance they do all the time.

And he didn't even call the police. No, it was one of the agents. So this is what is crazy. When you watch the video, they're literally at a security checkpoint. Like, you know, you're about to go into, like, past the, like, TSA or whatever, when all of this is happening. In the video, she clearly does touch him. She pushes him. He goes against the wall.

And she's trying to get around. He's trying to get around her. You know, not him walk away. Yes, but they're right at security. So people are seeing it. So they, the TSA agents, the agents called the police inside of the airport. He didn't call. Actually, there's another part of the body can when police first approached them where he tries to, like, cover for the situation.

Let's take a listen to Christian. I mean, it's domestic violence. No, no, no, no, no. It's not dead. Well, he doesn't have domestic relationship. Yeah, but there's a lot. It's still called DVD. Yeah, I understand that.

I mean, it's no violence at all. There's cameras on every inch of this place. I just got done watching camera footage. You want to tell me what actually happened? She throws headphones at you. Okay. You guys come over here. Clearly, you can tell there's a heated talk going on.

She shoves your ass. Hey, compare him talking to police to her talking to police. I'm nobody therapist, but I would tell you to run, King. Now, she's going to catch you if she chased you. But I'm just telling you, you might need to run. Compare him talking to police to her. It's a little different because he's not getting arrested. If he was getting arrested, he might be talking a little differently too.

I don't think he'd be throwing her under the bus like that. No, no, I don't think he would throw under the bus. But, you know, obviously they're in a relationship where they put hands with each other before. That's not healthy. That is definitely not healthy. And that definitely needs to be fixed. A lot of people are in relationships or started off in relationships like that. It comes usually from insecurity or whatever their problems is.

But they need to get fixed in their relationship. I would hate for them to lose anything because they're in a young couple of relationship. you know what I mean and things happen but hopefully they can get it fixed before they lose too much more well they got to deal with the consequences of their actions both with them but I just to yes to the bigger point none of this sounds healthy yeah like none of this sounds like a healthy and it's not worth it they're both athletes like got something good going for these out of yeah you know I know her but him isn't he like he's a huge sprinter yes yep yep he's a star very successful as well she can't catch him yeah she can no no no she can't catch she quick

and she can beat him quick she can't Yeah, she quit. Catch the man, beat him. Not, I was going to say, did you see the video? And they raised Hill Duster. No, she won't. You say he's a sprinter? What's the fastest time?

Stop, you know, because she's seen this. Hey, man, I hate to be the guy to have to say this, but he's a man. She's a woman, okay, all right. It doesn't mean that. I think she's one of the fastest women in the world. She's the most of the fastest woman in the world. Okay, all right, sure. All right.

Some women are. Caitlin is faster than Bruce. What? Huh? Ain't he? What? They're same people. Kirsten Coleman, back in

2023 NBC Sports said, Christian Coleman matched the world's fastest 100 time this year at 9.83 seconds. What's your car to do that? What's your car to do that? I put some respect with my girl's name, yo. It's Gary Fast. I'm just saying, it's a man and a woman.

If he's the fastest at the time, you know, maybe, shall have been right. But your speed, don't... She's a bunch of gender. It's your strength. Let's your speed. Hold on. Hold on. She's doing it. So USA Today says,

in 2024, Shikari qualified for the Olympic team by running 100 meter in 10.71 seconds. So he's faster. That's according to these outlets. You guys are going to do with him being a man, yo. I didn't know he was that fast.

He's a sprinting. Yes, it does. It does, okay? Let's talk to you about men and women. How about that? How about you? How about you have proven that you had another person

to have these conversations with you? I'll be chill. No, you're right. All right. You're right. stop for the car what else you got what else you got um jess i know you're excited about this one uh kim kardashian cloy kardashian are now getting involved in a search for amy bradley oh my god did they find her they haven't yet so started just they literally just started so quickly as we wrap um so basically

kim karmashian was watching the uh special she posted it on her insta story and then she got in contact with amy bradley's family she was talking to emmy bradley's mom for an hour last thursday according to tmz and she says that you know or they believe that they're is something there. Specifically, Kim Kardashian is interested in this, like, IP address from Barbados that keeps checking the Amy Bradley's missing website. And they're doing it on holidays,

like, where she would miss her family most, right? So I think it's her. A lot of people speculate that they think it's her because it happens on her birthday, major holidays, like Christmas, Thanksgiving, and everything. Like 60 years old right now. So she wouldn't still be a sex worker, right? She would be. They got old sex workers like this.

All right, forget it. Oh, oh, I was going to say, what's the problem? All right, but yeah, no. No, no, but even still. Y'all are so crazy, man. Even still, she could still be alive and out there. You know what I mean? She's probably running it now or something.

You know, they probably got her, got her, you know, a nice solidified position in the company. I haven't watched the documentary. What makes y'all think she's alive? I'm just asking. It just because there's an IP address that's in Barbados, right? Every, and her, she still has, like, her Instagram. Like, her family still has, like, Facebook, right? And they post happy birthday to her every year since she's been missing.

They post a Merry Christmas to her. and that same IP address always comes and views it likes it, the post and everything so they think it's her. Okay, whatever. I'm telling you, they're going to find her. They have to find her.

Kim Kardashian and Chloe are involved and I don't know. We'll see. That same IP address. That is the latest with Lauren. Now, just fix my messes coming up in a little bit. If you need some fixing of your relationship, you can get on the phone lines,

800, 5851. 1051 if you need just to fix your mess. But before that, Sholomey, who you're giving your donkey to? I mean, let's talk about fixing some things, you know what I'm saying? We keep having all these conversations about a youth crime in America.

Let's have a discussion about it. I need these two teenagers in my home state of South Carolina to come to the front of the congregation. I don't know their names because they are juveniles, but it's just a teachable moment here. All right. We'll get to that next.

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Your execution on the donkey of the day is something to good hold. He gave me donkey of the day and I deserve it. You need to know.

Well, you need to tell them. I am. You have the voice. Tell them. Tell them. It's time for donkey of the day. It's a read, but you're so good at it. You're trying to be a fake-ass Charlemagne.

There's only one Charlemagne to go. Damn, Charlemagne. Who do you give a donkey of the day to name? Well, sexy red donkey today for Thursday, August 14th, goes to two teenagers in my home state of South Carolina. They're teenagers, so I don't have their names. but this isn't really about them, it's about us, okay, a teachable moment. See, I'm thinking about President Trump and the federal takeover, D.C., the police and, you know, mobilization of the National Guard.

Yes, we notice is yet another distraction that the Trump administration has created to attempt to get people to stop talking about the Epstein files. But listening to the president cite a lot of false and misleading claims about murder and youth crime in the nation's capital got me thinking just because the data and information he may have cited is wrong. Doesn't mean that youth crime in D.C. and all over the country isn't happening. Because let's be honest, we all know it is. And we all know why it is,

because the powers that be aren't doing anything to truly combat crime in our communities. They never have. Okay, if you aren't addressing the social and economic factors that contribute to crime, then you're not serious about combating crime. But we're going to get back to that because I need to talk about these teenagers in South Carolina.

Two juveniles have been detained for stealing a train and causing a derailment. This is impressive, stupid but impressive, because I've never, ever, ever, ever, heard somebody committing a crime like this. Let's go to NBC4 for the report, please. Two teens in Lawrence County are facing charges for taking a joy ride in a train. Lawrence police say it happens sometimes Saturday night.

They say two juveniles unlawfully entered both the Carolina Piedmont Railroad and CSX Transportation Railroad facilities and stole a train. Investigators say they drove around the rail yard, and when they tried to return the engines, they crashed into parked rail cars, causing a derailment. Officials say both those teens faced several charges that, include second-degree burglary, grand larceny, and malicious damage to property. Listen, I need all my nieces and nephews out there.

Please listen to your uncle, Shala. If you can take the time to unlawfully enter a railroad facility and figure out how to start an engine of a train that was connected to two other trains and then drive those three trains around the yard before taking them on to the rail line that connects toward Greenville. If you can figure out how to do all that, damn it, you can do anything. Okay, there is literally nothing your mind can conceive that you can't achieve. because your brain told you to do this, and you did it.

First of all, my whole life, I've never thought about driving a train, ever. But those are the kinds of thoughts that if we were investing in our kids the way we should, they could share with us, and we could help them become an actual train operator. I wish that these two kids would have told an adult that, hey, I want to drive a train, and then that adult could connect them with someone who could make that dream come true for them. Okay, like a ride-along program or something, because I just Googled disappointing. How do you become a railroad train operator? And correct me if I'm wrong, all a railroad train operator.

out there. But from what I see, the requirements are pretty basic. Okay, you can become a railroad train operator by having a high school diploma or the equivalent of it. It says you've got to pass a physical exam and complete training and certification through the federal railroad administration. An entry-level positions often require on-the-job training and advancement to engineer roles. They typically involve years of experience as a conductor, and they make pretty decent money. Okay, the best-paying jobs in railroads include locomotive engineers. They earn around $85,000 a year. Railroad conductors make about 65 a year

railroad yard masters which I don't even know what that is earned up to 70 grand a year and signal and switch operators can make over 80 grand my point is kids if you can spend time and energy doing the wrong thing you can use that same time and energy to do the right thing but this is where we

okay come into play we are failing a lot of our kids man I already know the Trump administration wants to make America a police state but making America a police state isn't going to solve the problem you really want to combat crime you have to deal with the social and economic factors that contribute to crime. You know why I invest so much of my personal time, energy, and resources into mental health initiatives?

It's because I understand that if you help someone be the best version of themselves mentally and emotionally, you make society better. Okay, when you help someone deal with their unheeled trauma and that pain and hurt the individual is feeling, when you help them get some healing, they don't go out here and project that pain and hurt on the other people, okay? but that is dealing with what's in people's head and heart. We got to start dealing with what is in people's pockets. Okay, acting like poverty and crime don't go hand in hand is retarded. Okay, you have to give these kids opportunity and something to do. I don't mind is a devil's playground. When kids don't have nothing to do and no legal means and making ends meet,

they will resort to crime unless you provide them with opportunity. We know the answers to all these problems. Our governments know the answers to these. problems. Okay, we got to stop saying the system is broken. All right, it's designed to do exactly what it's doing. For example, you want kids to not turn the crime, okay, you need strong family

support, which is why the system goes out of this way to tear families apart. You need positive community involvement. After school programs, recreational activities, mentorship programs, community engagement, youth clubs, religious groups, you have to give these kids a real sense of belonging, but they cut in funding for a lot

of these programs, okay, because they know it gives them purpose. Of course, education. of course job training and employment opportunities okay social and emotional development that goes into the education piece they need to have social and emotional learning from pre-k to 12th grade teach these kids empathy and compassion conflict resolution skills we know the solutions to these problems but we don't implement them because the school to prison pipeline is big business now let me get back to the real root cause poverty and inequality okay address that and you guys getting right to the root cause of reducing the risk factor associated with crime. Mental health support, I will stress that until the day I die, okay? Help them deal with their trauma and emotional distress. Early intervention programs, okay? Target these at-risk youth, not by militarizing the police and sending the feds into these cities.

Target them with early intervention programs that can prevent them from developing harmful behaviors and trajectories. Okay, trade schools, theme programs, job core. And once again, mental health services. Okay, see, when I look at these kids who went for a joyride on this train before they derailed it, I don't see lost causes, okay?

I see the right energy going in the wrong direction because once again, if they can come up with an idea to go into a railroad facility, start a train, and drive it, then they can walk into a trade school and learn how to do H-FAC. Okay, they can go to school

and major in anything in steam. But we have to be their guide. We have to guide them because ain't nobody coming to save us because the upward mobility of these young kings and queens is not part of the plan of their system. Please give these young teenagers who stole that train in South Carolina

the biggest he-ha. But what will happen? Let me look. Oh, yes. I knew that already. Hi, Jess. Hey, what's up? How are you?

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It's time for Just Fix My Mess. Hello, who's this? Good morning. This is Mark. What's up, Mark? How you doing? What's wrong? Talk to me.

Good, Jess. Hey, man, I want your insight, see, you're a female. You can probably help me. So I've been with my girl now going on five years. Mm-hmm. Before I met Before I got with her

I was with my wife Got three kids with her We was in a 15 15 year relationship It ended in 2017 Cool 2020 I met my new girl I bet

She's been rocking But she just has like an issue With my baby mother Like my baby mother calls me Your ex-wife My ex-wife Yeah my ex-wife She calls me

Now my oldest son he, you know, he made us a grand kid, grand. Nice, congratulations. I know that's, that's a delight. That's beautiful. Now, his mother, you know, she's always with the kids. She'll have them. She's taking pictures.

You know, she'll send me pictures of the baby. All right, who? The girlfriend, she's getting pissed off. She's stalking her page. Oh, you with your baby mother. Y'all want to be with it. That's the love of your life. La la la.

Okay. You know, she just keep all her insecurities is so crazy. but I'm not even given like I don't go kill my baby mother I don't have text message hey what are you doing you good how are you that there's none of that so you've never given her any reason

to think that there is still something going on or even little sparks are there between you on your ex-wife right the only reason you can say that she's going to say is that on two years three years ago for Christmas you know I live with my son my son lives with me

my other two kids with her he came to my house on Christmas you know to give her son her gifts for my son to see her whoa whoa whoa yo she posted a picture that she was in my house my baby mother i mean my girl went on her facebook page to see her story and she's seen that she was in my house and ever since that day everything got worse because she's like oh she's allowed to come in your house but i'm like yo i have a son who lives here and that's also the mother of my children and my ex-wife and you know not for nothing no we're not attracted to each other anymore but we're going to always be in each other's lives

no matter what because if my son wants his mother to come over and cook him dinner like what you? That's not, she didn't come to cooking over for me, you know what I mean? Oh, oh, oh, I ain't know it was the dinner. Did your girl live with you at that time?

I'm not even there. I'm gone. I'm out doing me. Okay. All right. But did your girl live there, though? My girl don't live there. No, she got her own for it. Okay. All right. I was going to say, now I would feel a little disrespect Because she ain't got to be in here cooking for her son. Why son can't go out of her house? And she cooked for him at her house.

Jess, that's like you, you know what I mean? I get it. I totally do get it. All right, listen. Baby far, then you're going over there trying to cook for him. I'm still waiting on Rome to get a house, so we can't even compare that. Listen, now you, how old are you, if you don't mind me asking? I'm 40.

I'm 40. Okay, how old is your girlfriend? She's 30. Okay. Look, so, no, and this is not. me saying that she's too young for you no but she's still you know you're living a different you living in a different decade and I know that may not I don't think that matters but it does okay so everything that you went through in your 30

she's just now about to embrace that you know what I mean like you know her insecurities are not gone yet you know she's fresh out of her 20s so she's 30 so she's still on that type of time where there are insecurities you are married before her but you were married not for one or two years you got a lot of history with the mother of your three children you know what I mean so yeah she is intimidated by your ex-wife absolutely we can't even deny that she can't deny it she won't admit it but she is what would you say as the man what would you say I need to do and and and not just say oh I need to reassure her you don't want to be able to because I did that like yeah what or what

do I need to do really sit down and speak like yo if you can't get faster we don't have to you know what I mean absolutely that's absolutely what you have to do if you're not doing anything wrong, you know, if you're not really still in love with your ex-wife or even have a crush on you, exactly. Okay. So I'm going to take your word for it. I'm going to take your word for it. Then that's the conversation you got ahead with your girlfriend because she is insecure

and intimidated by your ex-wife. And there's no way to get around it. That's going to come with time. But if you ain't got the time because you're 40 and you're like, look, you should already be already, you know what I'm saying? You should just get it. Then you need to move on from that. Word.

Because, now mind you this, chef, she got two kids of herself. She got two different baby fathers. yourself now I don't bring that type of energy. I embrace it. You want to go pick them up in the store? I go pick up with some with her. Yeah. But see you're all... There's no energy

like that coming from me. But you see you're also on another side of you, on a different side of it. You're 40, you've been married, you already had all... You know what I'm saying? You're family oriented anyway. You're a dad. You're all for you know, doing all the right things. You all for that. Yeah, man. That's... That's what...

what I'm trying to, because I really don't want to lose it, but it's like, yeah, I'm ready to just let this go. You keep on bringing up my baby mother. Right. Protect your piece. And you, you, you keep mentioning somebody I don't want to be with. Yeah, you got to protect. You go and I'm do you dirty with somebody. That's not

even my baby mother. You took stuff on her. See? So if you're thinking like that, nah, you just got to go because now she's turning you toxic, brother. Like, you can't even do that. It's the YBs. You know, we got YNs, but we don't talk about the YBs enough. These young bitches, man. So you can't do that.

You got to. I love that, Jess. Yes, protect your peace, King. You got to do that. Had that conversation with it. She got to keep it moving. I said, I appreciate that. No problem.

Because you'd be cooking up some good insight. You know. I appreciate that. Appreciate you. Sometimes it's hard to remember, but... Going through something like that is a traumatic experience, but it's also not the end of their life. That was my dad.

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You're Saturday, my boy. All right, my G. Can't wait to see you. You get there early because it's going to be a lot of fun, man. You bring the kids, you bringing the wife. Who are you coming with? No, no, he's not bring... See, that's the problem.

I'm bringing the wife, because he got a girl who mad because his ex-wife is a little bit too much comfortable. Yo, don't bring that mess around me, bro. Like, like, don't talk to be it or nothing. I'm not going to bring it out, but I'm going to bring it out there to show her, like, yo, this is our time, this is what we're doing. Period. There you go.

Don't bring that matter because you start your mess with in your house, and I get home late on that night. My wife will be like, what you think about that? And then I answer the question wrong. Then I'm in trouble. Exactly. We don't need none of that energy. All right, man.

I see you on Saturday, man. Looking forward to it, man. I have a good one. You too. We're in the middle of Just Fix My Mess. Hello, who's this? Hi, this is Anonymous. Hi, Anonymous.

What's wrong? What's up? So, basically, this is a big, heavy story, Jess. Okay. I have been married to African. Oh, my God. So 15 years. What happens?

15 years. So right now, he is. So he's the most narcissistic man I've known thus far. Okay. I hear that a lot about them. Okay. He drinks. He's a Muslim.

Only thing he does Muslim is not eat pork. Okay. Basically, we have three children. And right now I left him as of Tuesday. Okay. Today is Thursday. I haven't been able to work. he has been stalking me

because of where he knows where I'm currently at with the children basically I need to figure out how do I separate myself from this terrible situation the restraining order

well you know damn well if you're being stalked and you're trying to figure out how to get somebody from off your tail and you know what I mean nah restraining order

straight up you got to go to the courts If he narcissistic, he won't leave you alone. If he, you know, nobody can have you with me. Like, is he that type of person? Yeah, basically. And it's not like, you know, it's not like when he has me, he's shooting me good. If he was a good man, I wouldn't let him. Is he here legally?

Yeah. Yeah, I can't give him. I don't help them with that. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you thought about it. You already thought about that? Yeah. No, he got signed by Obama.

you know what I mean he never got to go back nowhere damn he can't go nowhere and be here take his ass to court then that's it that you need to

because this sounds I mean we we make a little jokes and laughing but this is very dangerous you know this is always no no

that's basically what it is as well so basically let me say this even with the courts you know what that's what I was thinking

about as well you know I'm saying because basically yeah I can go to the court. I can get the divorce. That's $2.50. You know what I'm saying?

I already thought about that as well. All you got to do is go down there. But once you do that, then what? Like, he is, like, how do I open up his mind to think that life is not over? Like, we don't have to stay together forever, you know? Yeah. Look, but it's the thing. He know that already.

He just wants you to think that. He wants you to be binded to. him mentally. He wants you to feel like you can't be, you can't make it without him and y'all already got kids together and all that, right? That's what a narcissist does. That's what a narcissist does.

Like, they make you think that you're the problem. You need to hold on to that person. He knows he can be, you know, you know, he can, you don't have to be with you. You don't have to be with him. But he's already conditioned you to think that you have to. You know what I mean? That's how they

work. So, man, of court. I said, the court, keep calling the police. Have it, create a trail. Like, no,

I, you know, you have to. So, let me just say, I've never, I have not ever put the police on him.

You know, because for one, I'm trying not to put him. You know, yeah, he doesn't have the, but you're absolutely right. It's been so many cases

where I should have. Yeah. But then, you know, to have that police trail, I just want you to live your life. You know, yeah,

I still want you to be a good daddy. I just want you to be somewhere else to be in a good day. You know? And if he was messing around with me, I start calling the people, oh, he's going to get some real charges. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, that seemed like what he needs, some real charges.

Like, no slap on the wrist. Like, he really need to, he need a wake-up call. Can't be a narcissist with everybody. Can't be narcissists with police. Can't be narcissists in jail. Can't be narcissists in the courts. You know what I mean? So take your safety and the safety of your children very seriously, baby.

I think you should go ahead and figure that out. No, for you to say that, that part right there is most definitely the goal and the key, the first, you know, main priority. Yeah, because you've got to be around for them, you know, just don't sound safe. All right. All right, babe. I appreciate you. Good luck, honey.

All right, thank you. All right. Well, just fix my mess. 800-585-105.1. When we come back, we got the latest with Lauren. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Breakfast Club

Morning everybody It's DJ envy Just hilarious Shalameen the guy We are the breakfast club Let's get to the latest With Lauren Be coming a straight fat

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Sometimes you have facts Sometimes she have details Sometimes she have a little bit everything Well it's the latest On the breakfast club Talk to me Kit Cuddy sat down with the Call Her Daddy podcast

and he's been on a promo tour because he dropped his memoir. Cuddy, the memoir is out now via a memoir. Memoir. Sorry. I'm not memoir. Memoir.

A book about itself. He got a book about itself. So he's talking about a bunch of different things throughout his career, his time, relationships he was in and he gets into his time dating and dealing with Cassie. So they talk to him about that

on Call Her Daddy. Let's take a listen. You were with her, obviously, during a very dark time of what she was going through with Diddy. During that time, your house was broken into, your car was lit on fire. What do you just like overall remember about that time? In the moment, it was just crazy.

I had a hard time understanding if it was reality. Like, I was like, am I in the movie? What the f*** is going on? It was just chaotic and intense. Like, I was already out of my mind, dealing with my own. personal shit so I was really just like I was willing to walk into the fire and I just

over the years I just thought about it as like some wild shit that happened in my rock and roll life you know what I'm saying yeah he also talked about testifying for Cassie on the sand and the ditty trial he said that they asked him like two or three times he didn't want to go but the last time he said you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna show up for her so he did he pulled up and he hated that he had to do it but he felt like he had to be there for her and then he talked about like his outfit choice

and how he was like I'm gonna pull up in here real cool and just go do what I need to do and I will say the day that he came to court I mean anytime you know a celebrity is coming there was so many people there but I do think that people were hanging on to his everywhere because he was the only celebrity in this whole situation

people were looking to see what celebrities were involved for different reasons he was the only celebrity that actually got on the stand outside of Cassie and talk through things so people were listening to him so it was a big moment for him And I guess he talks about how much pressure put on him. You testified in court.

Yeah. How did you feel going into that situation? I felt I was calm. I was there because I had to be. At first, they asked, I said no. They asked again. I said no. Then I got subpoena.

But I hated every minute of it. I did not want to do it. But then I thought about, I'm here to support Cassie. Cassie is my friend. I've always just wanted to see her thrive and do well. and be happy, you know, because I know she was living a nightmare. And I just was there to support her. That's what I

that's what kind of gave me peace with it when I sat down in that chair. Yeah, I didn't know. We had the second audio, but thanks for that. Yeah. So you guys heard him on that. But a bunch of people got subpoenaed and still didn't go though. Oh, 100%. Victim three, which we found out was Gina, one of these ex-girlfriends, didn't show up. There were there were people who. James Cruz, his manager. Did not show up as well. I think a couple

of security guards got subpoenaed. They didn't go as well. But I think for him it was more about being there to support Cassie. I think he knew the impact his testimony would have because there was so much conversation around the alleged arson and all the things. I'm interested in reading Cuddy's book, but not because of none of the mess. I'm interested in reading it because from what I saw, he talked about a lot of

his personal struggles, especially dealing with mental health and depression and suicidal thoughts. And if you know anything about Cuddy, his fans, like my guy, Pete Davidson has said for years that Kid Cuddy's music helped him to not kill himself. So I'm interested in reading Cuddy's book for that.

And even where Kid Cuddy came from, like he came from, you know, working at a store in the village and just doing music and being heard and just his story is an amazing story. Yeah, it's all about that being here in the blog era in New York. And he talks about in a really big, like really good detail. He talks about the speeding bullets to heaven album, which is where he said that was going to be his goodbye. That was like almost like his suicide letter because he did not want to be here.

So yes, the book is going to be full of a lot of things. And he talked about that in the interview too. So go take a list of that. It came out of this week. Yes, it's out of this week. via Simon & Schuster. And a lot of people don't know, Jim Jones actually crossed him over

to a lot of people that had no idea who he was. I did not know that. When Jim Jones did the remix a day and night. Oh, okay. He crossed over to a lot of the hip-hop fans

who did not know who Kickudy was at first. That's the jam. Well, in other New York news, the Broadway theater owners are very upset still about the casino in Times Square

and they are pissed off at Jay Z, Fat Joe, and Charlemagne the God. Oh, my God. What do you do now? Every day. Yeah, so basically yesterday,

16 theaters on Broadway lit up their marquee and they had digital billboards that read No Times Square Casino. Now, this message was displayed right before and during the first state hearing on the gambling facility that is going to be coming potentially to Times Square. Now, the reason

why they're mad at Fat Joe and Charlamanda Guy is sitting right here is because you were there to testify on the behalf of the casino. Well, it's not testifying. You testify? First of all, there was 150 people there and you had people

there that were in support of the casino. A lot of people who were there in support of the casino like myself. And then you had people who opposed it, which is life, right? Like, that's the way life is. Everybody won't agree, but you testified. I did not testify. I walked up to the microphone like everybody else walked up to the microphone. And say what, yeah, rocked the microphone. I said a lot of things.

I said, I believe in the casino. I believe in what Rock Nation and Caesar's Palace are doing. And one thing I didn't say yesterday, and we say it here on the breakfast club all the time was for all the money we pay in taxes and tolls here in New York City. New York should look like Dubai. It should at the least look like Charlotte or Dallas

Like downtown Chicago was beautiful My point is the city needs an upgrade And I think, you know, Cesar's Palace provides that And I go to a lot of Broadway I go to a lot of Broadway Broadway is not sexy Seasons Palace could bring a lot of sexy The Times Quill

How long did you ride the mic for? What are you talking about? How long did you said you walked up to the mic? Nobody was talking long. Literally people would walk up and speak for like 30, 45 seconds That's about it And I just talked about how, you know, I feel like it's going to bring more customers for surrounding businesses. It's going to increase tourism.

You know, Rock Nation is going to make a real investment into the long-term health of the city. It's going to bring thousands of – and I heard this – I heard people saying this yesterday. Like, you know, they had construction workers going up. They're saying how it's going to bring thousands of construction jobs, you know, thousands of permanent jobs because they've got to hire like 3,000, 4,000 people. Yes. I just don't understand why people are against this. And if you are against all the billions of dollars, you know, this will bring to the city and communities, what are you going to do? How will the casino hurt?

Like, how will it hurt the... People say things like more traffic. They think things like more congestion, more crime. But, no, I think it's going to actually increase security in that area. If you ask me, personally. But what do I know? Well, it's definitely going to bring traffic. But, I mean...

It's already traffic. It's already traffic. Like you said, it's already traffic. They'll just have to detour things. And it'll create more opportunities for parking garages and things like that. Because people are going to have to come down here and park. Yes. It brings more...

It brings more people for the businesses that are down there. Yeah. Okay. I just wonder how you didn't see 90 these signs. All of this. Parking garages and stuff.

Like, where's the space? They probably will use what's already there, though, right? Yeah. And they'll build more. The crazy thing is in that article from the New York Post, whoever was talking about me and Fat Joe call us bald faces.

Oh, my God. They also at one point say I'm rappers, but I don't know if they're referring to you and Fat Joe or they're talking about with Jay Z and Fat Joe. But you know, sometimes these outlets If you read the article, they refer to me as a radio personality. They do.

But, second, for first, a rapper. What is bald-faced me? You don't have no hair on your face. Fat Joe rewinds the time. Fat Joe got plenty of hair. Did he mean bald head? No, he dies it. Like, he don't got no plenty of things.

He's still not bald. It's still not bald. They'd better leave Bay allowed. It was just silly. Stacey! It's funny, though, and I'm going to use it. All right. Well, that is the latest.

Ball's face celebs ended up at the front of the line to testify. That's crazy. the theater that should complain that the hearing was held to make matinee show, was held during matinee showtimes. And I didn't get in front of when I walked in, in fact, Joe was sitting down. I waited in line, like everybody else. Your bald face was in that line. That's crazy.

Ball face. That's crazy. Go be a part of your community. Do something. Does somebody come up to me and be like, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. What would you do? It was mad love in there. Absolutely. Drop on the cruise bombs. Everybody I saw yesterday. Yes, it was mad love in there. Absolutely. Well, that's the latest with Lauren. People's Choice Mixes up next. Let's go. Everybody is D.J. N.V. Just hilarious.

Shalameen the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a salute to Cheryl McKissick, Daniel, for joining us again this morning. Man, salute to the great Cheryl McKissick, man. She is literally living, grieving, black history. If you don't know about McKissick and McKissick Construction Company, you need to. They have contributed to the development of the Barclays Center, Lincoln Field in Philadelphia. Airports. Yeah, JFK Airport.

A bunch of different things. But, I mean, it's just a story to me, it's a story. me of resilience because literally this construction company started during slavery and it's still thriving today so make sure you go pick up the black family who built America by Cheryl McKissick Daniel available on my book in print Black Privilege

Publishing with Simon issues. Very inspiring you know we got a couple days left to my car show it goes down. So Caucasus New Jersey which is 20 minutes from the city. Kids 5 and under are free there's free parking all types of cars amusement rides and games for the kids and then after this weekend I'm also in Chicago. Yes.

It's the sexy party. It's me and Lorenz tape. Like, when they say sexy, they send me in Lawrence Tate. Like, Lorenz-Lorentzate? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Girl, you're excited. Yeah, but I'm the sexy one when I said the sexy party. You're going to set up the pinch my butt boof that you used to do? You know, Envi used to do a pinch my butt boof? No, I didn't know that. He said it as a joke

and somebody tried his ass once. Somebody did, but it wasn't a boop. I was walking out the club. I did a good job, and he smacked me on my eyes and said a good job. That's what you're telling people that. Exactly. I didn't know what to do after that, so I just ran out the club. But, because he was married. He would have known what to do if he wasn't married Hey, yo, come on, you know

But we won't be Chicago and ever around Oh, there was a guy that slapped his butt I don't know what you're saying I'm going to be clear about that, okay And you're going to be in Sacramento I'm going to be in Sacramento at Heart Rock Live Casino Man, so get your tickets It's me, Donna Rawlins

Chico Bean and D.R.A. Davis, man so get your tickets for that. Jassilarass Official.com I'll see y'all, Sacramento. And speaking to Sacramento, man, And today is the born day of the great Magic Johnson, one of the greatest point guards of all time. You're not from Sacramento.

A fantastic businessman. You heard Cheryl McKissick-Daniel talking about the importance of Magic Johnson in business earlier. But it just makes me think about Sacramento, whatever I think about Magic Johnson, because of a conversation we had when he was here on the breakfast club. But let's wish Magic a happy birthday, and we'll let y'all hear the conversation. We turn up. Happy birthday to one of the all-time greats Magic Johnson. When you first got the information, did you ever say to yourself, it was that nasty bitch from Sacramento. I don't know who did that.

But you... You think like that, no question about it. But I think what happens is you definitely go back and you start thinking. But you can't trace it, you know. The Breakfast Club. Ah, come on. Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.

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