The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Cash Money Vs. No Limit Verzuz, Turk Responds To Birdman + 112, Case, Total & Ryan Holiday Interview
Episode Date: October 27, 2025Today on The Breakfast Club, 112, Case, and Total talk about the 90s R&B generation, Biggie’s studio magic, and the power of cool vulnerability. Plus, author Ryan Holiday joins us to explain... why 'Wisdom Takes Work,' rounding out his Virtue book series. And Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to a parent who threatened an elementary school after their child was denied snack time, saying ‘I’ll air this place out.’ Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Charlemagne, the God.
Peace to the planet, it's Monday.
Good morning how y'all feel out now.
I feel blessed black and highly favored.
Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners.
Good morning, man.
How was everybody's weekend?
Yes, how's your weekend?
Just what you do?
It was lit.
I was out in Philly, the beautiful city of Philadelphia.
I had a private dinner to go to.
It was amazing.
Shout out to the W. in Philly.
I'd never stayed at the W. in Philly, but it is lit.
It is nice.
My husband went shopping and everything.
but the hospitality shown to us at the W
was amazing.
So shout out to Tony at the W.
He's very cool.
I like him.
And then, what else do we do?
What else do we do?
But now that's, all right, that's pretty much it.
Yeah, Philly.
Philly.
Because I could spend all morning talking about my weekend in Philly.
Yo, Philly is lit, yo.
I love Philly.
Yes.
Even though they beat my Giants, but we expected that.
Oh, damn.
I wasn't even focused on the football of everything.
We expected that.
They had a home game yesterday.
Everybody, of course, Philly was.
Bigging up Philly, you know what I mean?
But it was crazy getting out of Philly yesterday, though, because of the game.
Well, salute to everybody that had a homecoming this past weekend, Hampton University's homecoming.
I was there Friday.
I know Howard had a homecoming.
I know Norfolk State had a homecoming.
I think Virginia State had a homecoming.
But it was dope.
I ran into, I seen Wycliffe, Wycliffe performed.
I seen Walee performed.
Amazing.
Satband, Computer, love.
They performed.
I seen Gucci, too.
Gucci killed Hampton University.
When I said he killed it, killed it.
So me and Gucci chopped it up for a little bit.
You should talk about how the South Carolina State Bulldogs killed the Norfolk State Spartans, 51 to 20.
That's what you should talk about, okay?
Yeah, yeah, you should talk about that.
How about you talk about that?
Norfolk's not my school, sir.
Now, you had on their jersey last week.
I was rep.
What is it right?
Nobody should be happy when DJ Envy comes to their school.
This man had on a Norfolk State jersey this week reping hard.
I was reping.
I was reping.
I was reping Michael Vick.
Michael Vick is from the 7-5-7.
He's a black coach doing coaching at a H-B-CU.
South Carolina State.
Got a black coach, and that's the HBCU.
What's his name?
What's his name?
What's his name?
At South Carolina State?
Hold on.
Let me look up my guy.
He got to Google it.
You don't even know.
I don't want to mispronounce it.
Where that man's jersey?
That's my man.
That's my man.
Hold on, Chinis Barry.
Chinis.
I thought I just said Chinese.
That's why I was glad I looked it up.
Chinis Barry.
Well, salute to them.
Salute to them.
So I seen everybody in Hampton University.
went over to Norfolk because Lauren was actually
hosting at Norfolk so I went over there with her
and she had an event with Lloyd
I seen Lloyd and you know it's just great seeing a lot of
these artists with catalogs
as you forget how many records Lloyd had Lloyd
Lloyd performed like eight nine records and they all smashed
of course I forgot all about him so of course
salute to Lloyd and then I went to my island
of Dominica where my grandfather
is from where I'm right now of a sudden it's your island
boy here
yeah it is the way they made me feel
man everything was woke
Not Dominican is Dominica.
And everybody who I ran into was like,
please tell Charlemagne, Dominican Republic is not the same as Dominica.
So we were at the Dominica Island, which is like the nature island.
So it's really untouched.
So it's just beautiful.
It's hiking.
It's natural spas.
It's all types of things.
But this weekend, it was nothing but Creole Festival and reggae and Soca and Calypso.
So they start party and they start performance at six.
and they end at 8 a.m.
And then 8 a.m., everybody goes to the city,
and then they party to, like, 2, 3.
Then they sleep, and they do it again for 3 days straight.
That's why I still got this outfit on
because I just left the venue where everybody was performing,
and everybody's there from Vibes Cartel to Spite, T.W.
Savage, or everybody was there.
So I see everybody that came.
I had a great, great time.
It's a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful island.
And I'm enjoying myself.
So I'm loving it.
So I had a great weekend.
I ain't going on front.
I had an amazing weekend.
This was fun.
This was fun.
What about you, Charlotte?
I've seen you was at South Carolina.
Yeah, I was home.
You know, University of South Carolina's homecoming.
That's my wife's alma mater.
And then Friday, we had a great conversation with the icon living, Don Staley,
as well as the other icon living, Asia Wilson, man.
You know, I've done a lot of interviews in my life, you know, with a lot of great people, you know.
But, you know, interviewing Don Staley and Asia Wilson in the arena that they made famous,
the colonial life arena.
and just thinking to myself like,
damn, both of these women
got statues, a block apart
in the city of Columbia, South Carolina.
That was an incredible interview.
And then we got our ass busted Saturday
versus Alabama.
There she did.
But it's okay.
All right.
Well, let's get the show cracker.
You know 21 Savage's mothers from Dominica?
I know she was from her island.
Yeah, she's from Dominica
and then she moved to London
when he was and had him.
Okay, I was going to say, who's from the UK?
Yeah, no, she's from here, actually.
Because everybody was telling me,
it was like, you know, 21 Savage.
There's root to it. I'm like, what are you talking about?
He's from him. He was like, no, his mother was actually, mother's from here.
So I figured I learned that this weekend, too.
But let's get the show cracking.
Yeah, it's an amazing time.
The resort, the hotel is just, they show me so much love.
Nice.
But today on the show, 112 case in total will be joining us.
The Room 112 tour.
They're celebrating 30 years of 112's music.
They're going on the road.
We're going to chop it up with them.
And we got front page news when we come back.
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I thought they was going to start with the Burning Blue because it's Shorty birthday today.
Morning, everybody.
Hey, it's DJNV, Jess Hilary, Sholomane the guy, we are the breakfast club.
Let's get in some front page news.
Start off quickly in sports, Major League Baseball.
The World Series is going down if you don't know.
The Dodgers versus the Blue Jays.
The series is tied 1-1.
Now, NFL, a lot to go through, some are going through them fast.
The Ravens beat the Bears.
Bills beat the Panthers.
Patriots beat the Browns.
Buckinaires beat the Saints.
The Broncos beat the Cowboys.
Packers beat the Steelers.
Coats beat the Titans.
Eagles beat the Giants.
The Texans beat the 49ers.
and the Jets finally won one of our producers.
He finally has his Jets jersey.
He bought his jersey eight weeks ago.
I don't respect it.
He finally got a chance to wear him.
I don't respect it.
They won it in seven now.
And Monday night football.
But I don't respect the fact that you're just putting on your Jets jersey today, right?
You're supposed to rep when they had a butthole.
All right?
When they was Owen, when they was Owen, whatever, you should have been rep it.
I can't wear it after a loss.
So, yeah, that's what you're supposed to wear.
This might be my only chance of wearing a jersey.
That's going to be your only time this year.
And they won by love.
And in Monday night football, the commanders take on the chiefs at 815.
What's up, Mimi?
Good morning, M.V.
Jess Salamane, how y'all doing this morning?
Good morning, good.
Good morning.
All right, well, we start this morning on day 27 of the government shut down.
And the impact is being felt just about everywhere from the airports to the kitchen tables.
Now, the FAA, they issued a ground stop at L.A.S. Sunday morning because of staffing shortages,
forcing planes headed for Los Angeles to sit on the tarmac for nearly.
two hours. Now, flights into Newark, Chicago, and Southwest Florida were also delayed part of a ripple
effect spreading across the country. Now, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, he warned this weekend
on Fox News that flight disruptions will likely get worse, especially as tomorrow marks the first
full week without pay for air traffic controllers still working throughout the shutdown. Let's listen to
that. Yeah, so they got their notice on Thursday and Friday. They get a notice of what they're going to be
paid on Tuesday, and they got a big fat zero. No paycheck is coming on Tuesday. And so I've been
out talking to our air traffic controllers. And you can see the stress. These are people that
oftentimes live paycheck to paycheck. They're concerned about gas in the car. They're concerned
about child care and mortgages. And so I'm seeing the stress come for the controllers. Just
yesterday, Maria, we had 22 staffing triggers. That's one of the highest that we've seen in the
system since the shutdown began. And that's a sign.
that the controllers are wearing thin.
And again, they're taking second jobs.
They're out there looking, can I drive Uber?
Can I find another source of income?
Yeah.
Yeah, people don't realize how ugly it's about to be, man.
And you saw this weekend, too, the USDA said they can't use emergency funds for food stamps.
So it can't use contingency funds to pay for food stamps during the government shutdown.
And states won't be reimbursed if they cover the expenses on their own.
So it's about to be ugly.
Yes, it is.
Absolutely.
And on top of that, the FAA, they're already short 3,000 air traffic controllers and many that are on the job without pay are already working mandatory overtime with six days a week without pay.
And as you mentioned, Charlemagne, it is not just limited to the airports.
The Department of Agriculture, they did just post yesterday that SNAP benefits will stop November 1st.
And that's the program that helps about one and eight Americans put food on the table.
So, you know, the White House, the White House Democrats, Republicans are pointing fingers at each other.
Meanwhile, the American people are suffering.
Only day I can tell you, man, I'm an ambassador at the food bank in Harlem.
You know, I do work with the Hope Center in Charleston, South Carolina as well.
Find a food bank in your local neighborhood.
And, you know, if you've got a couple extra dollars to donate to them, do it.
Because a lot of these people who rely on snapping these other benefits,
they're going to go hungry and they're going to be relying on food banks.
You know, so please, please donate to your local food bank.
Yeah, it's going to be nasty.
And the trickle effect is really good.
going to hurt not just, you know, people eating, but people's businesses as well. Like, you
think about it. Even we were at homecoming this weekend and I were talking to people and it was like
they might not be able to afford to go back to school because a lot of the, you know, the military is
what, you know, Hampton is based off of his military. And it was like a lot of people won't be
able to do a lot of things. It's going to be nasty, man. Yeah, definitely a ripple effect.
All right. And lastly, the Trump administration, they are sending election officials to monitor
polling sites in California and New Jersey. That's coming up.
ahead of the November 4th special election.
Now that that usual, that oversight isn't unusual,
but this time is drawing attention
because of what's on the ballot proposition 50 in California.
That's the state's redistricting measure
that could shift political power in Congress.
Democrats call it a political intimidation tactic
meant to discourage turnout,
but Republicans, they're saying,
nope, it's just to monitor what's going on
for transparency and ballot security.
But we will see either way
of federal elections being monitored,
showing up at local polls is the latest reminder just how electrically charged this election season is becoming.
So we will continue to watch that.
And a familiar change is coming back around, coming up at 7, and not everyone as a fan will tell you what it is and why some people say it is time for it to go.
All right.
And everybody else, get it off your chest, 800-585-105-105.1.
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What did you do?
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Hello, who's this
Yo, what's going on
This is your boy, Dingo, what's going on?
Beez Dingo! What's up, Dingo? Where you been, brother?
Man, just been trying to live life, brother
You know, just trying to maintain and hold down the fort
And trying to just survive, man
With this government not helping the body out
So I got to make it do on my own.
But it's been good, though, man.
I'm blessed.
Can't complain.
You know, I'm happy.
I'm blessed.
I'm healthy.
So really everything has been great, man.
So I just wanted to check it.
I'm always listening.
So, you know, I just wanted to call in and say, what's up to my people, man.
It's been a minute.
Hope you enjoyed your trip, Envy.
Yeah, man, I'm still here now.
I come back tomorrow.
But, yeah, I definitely am enjoying it.
I'm enjoying every last bit of this weather and this, this nature island.
That's what's up.
That's what stuff.
That's what stuff.
Charlemagne, my boy.
How you don't.
man.
I'm blessed black and highly favorite.
How are you doing, King?
Man, I can't even, like I said, can't complain, brother.
I'm just happy I'm still out here making it now.
Reason why I wanted to call here, because Jeff's hilarious.
Just hilarious, you're here, right?
Yep.
Oh, my God.
Jeff.
What's that, man?
It's crazy.
This past week, Jess, you have been doing so great.
We're coming into work on time.
Oh, my God.
I have been clocking it.
You have been here every day on time.
And I was so shocked.
I'm like, dang, that's okay.
Thank you.
Yeah, girl, because you don't have to be there.
I love you, bad.
But you don't have to.
Shut up, yo.
Hey.
Dang.
Hey, I'm glad you're on here.
There's love when you're out here, but I just want to say that, Jess.
I'm proud of you, girl.
Keep coming to work on time.
I love y'all.
Shout out to, you know, all of y'all and all the listeners.
And, you know, just want to spread some love this more than may.
Y'all be blessed.
Thank you, thank you, brother.
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Hey, what's up, Mama?
Go off your chest.
Okay, so I work for the FAA,
and I'm constantly hearing about how the air traffic controllers are working without pay.
I mean our secretary, Sean Duffy,
to come and talk to the FSAs and talk to those who are working in the regional offices
because we are working without pay.
We are working to keep them now safe and efficient.
So without the air traffic controllers,
there's no air traffic control powers, and we build those.
So our men are out, our men and women are out in the field, going from state to state airport to airport, radar site to radar site, working to make sure that the airspace is saying, we are working without pay.
We are working without any news or any hope of power paying or rent, our mortgages, our children's tuition.
So it's not just the air traffic controllers.
It's everybody in the FAA who's forced to work without pay.
You do know, they know that, right?
Like, they know y'all working without pay.
They know we working without pay, but all we're hearing is
it's not to control it.
So it's making us feel that it's only one set of people
that they're working because they're thinking about.
So I just need them to come and talk to those who are working in these,
in the buildings and the offices.
And just do a temperature check.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I just don't want you to ever think that they are not aware that they're not paying, y'all.
They are fully aware that they are not paying the TSA and they're paying.
And it's sad, man.
It's so damn sad.
Like you said, it's mortgage, is your car notice, it's electric bill, is gas bill.
It's your kids' tuition.
And it's the holidays.
That's what's going to complicate all of this even more.
The fact that, you know, people got to think about, damn, is there going to be no holiday season?
I'm not going to be able to buy my kids, nothing?
Listen, we took a temper.
to check in the office and in a few states with our co-workers.
We're not even thinking about Thanksgiving or Christmas.
A lot of us already had conversations with our kids, and we told them, like, listen, it ain't
going to be no Christmas this year.
Like, I already canceled my Thanksgiving plans because it's like, it's no sight.
You can't even see what you're about to do.
So all that is canceled.
Like, we're not even thinking about that right now.
That's great.
That's a sad part.
But, you know, it is what it is.
That's why I'm doubling, tripling up on everything.
I already usually do.
You know what I mean?
Resources to the food banks.
You know, the turkey drives
got to be, you know,
two and three times
what they've been in previous years.
Like, you know,
whatever you've been doing
for your community,
especially in regards and stuff like that,
you really got to triple up
if you got the means.
And it's so crazy
because when people do the turkey drives,
right, sometimes,
I don't want to say it gets boring,
but people are like,
oh, you're doing a turkey drive,
but now this year,
you see how much a turkey drive
will help?
You see how much having those foods
and those vegetables will help.
Because people need to eat.
Shut up,
doing nothing ass
up. How about that? How about you that don't
never do nothing for your people? Shut the
hell up. All right? Absolutely.
Hello, who's this?
Hey, what's going on, Evie? What's up, Charming?
Good morning, Jess. It's going on.
Peace, Rick.
Rick. What's up, brother?
I'm good, man.
You know, Evie, it's good to see you
in touch with your Caribbean roots.
There's a lot of people in a hip-hop game that have
Caribbean roots. And, you know,
and we've contributed a lot to hip-hop.
But I want to talk about this morning that, you know,
Jamaica's about to get hit by Hurricane
Melissa.
Yeah, man.
And I got a lot of family
of friends there,
and they're saying
it's going to be
the biggest storm
that's ever experienced.
I was going to
everybody to send
some love and light
out there because
Jamaica and the
Caribbean has contributed
so much to
hip hop over the years.
I mean,
the notorious VIGs,
you know,
Jamaican Roots
Foxy Brown,
Nicky Minaj,
Buster Rhams,
and I mean,
DJ Evie,
so everybody said
in love and light
out of Jamaica
because they need it
right now.
Not Jamaica,
Dominica,
but he meant the Caribbean
Islands.
Yeah.
I know.
I mean, Caribbean roots, you know, Caribbean roots.
And I mean, I want everybody to send some love and light out there right now
because they're going to need it, you know what I mean?
Yeah, Hurricane Melissa is category five right now.
Yeah, they're saying Jamaica might be unrecognizable after this hurricane hit.
So, yes, absolutely pray for Jamaica.
Pray for Cuba, pray for Haiti, Dominican Republic.
Pray for all those places because it's, it could get nasty, man.
So sad.
Get it off your chest, 800-585-105-1.
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Now we got Lauren LaRosa.
Lauren, what up?
Hey, good morning. Hey, Envy.
Hey, guys, there was one of us that missed their flight because they drank too much.
Guess which one it was?
First of all, I made it to where I needed to go.
One of us missed the flight.
I was down to the time you made it.
I made the next flight and I made it to where I needed to go.
God is good.
Good morning, everybody.
You drink that much?
No, it was just, my flight was at 6 a.m.
And I didn't leave the party at Norfolk until like 3.
We were banging on her door.
I should have went right to the airport.
We were doing all that.
I didn't think about that.
I literally should have went right to the airport.
I woke up the next day, like, yo, next time we're going straight to the airport.
I left the club at 12.
She left at 3.
One thing that we never did was miss a flight.
Nope.
Okay?
Yeah, that was a rookie mistake, yo.
I was on that flight so upset.
But I made it and everything was fine.
I flew in.
I went from Norfolk to Philly on Saturday and I did a pinway at my church with tomorrow.
Is you a church drunk?
No, I was not drunk.
I was very well fed and I was well-rested and I was good.
Nice.
But yeah, so I made it.
Thank you for trying to wake me up, though.
It didn't work.
Yeah, we tried.
All right.
Well, we got the ladies coming up.
What are we talking about?
We do.
Speaking of things over the weekend, versus went down.
No limit, cash money.
There is a lot to talk about the return of verses.
All right.
We'll get to that next.
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So Versus went down in Vegas
Over the weekend
There are reports that there were over 30,000 people
In attendance for the complete complex con
Which is where Versus went down at
And Versus happened between cash money
And no limit
This was the return of Versus
Now in attendance for cash money
And if there's any names I miss
And y'all saw somebody
I see call them out because there was a lot of people
So Birdman, Manny Fresh,
Juvenile, BG, Tamar
Braxton, no Turk
and no Little Wayne
How you said Tamar Brackson? Like she was
like she was over time. She was there. She was on the stage and she was
helping out Burman, okay?
You said, she was on the floor Turk. That's crazy.
No. You did? I said no. Turk wasn't there. I was named people that were there.
I know the fact you said Tamar before Turk.
Oh my God. Okay. And then
in attendance for No Limit, you had, Matt.
Massapid, Sok the Shocker, Mia X and Kelly Price, Chapa, and Mac.
Anybody else?
And Tamar was on the, yeah, she was on Cash Money.
Kelly Price.
Kelly Price was there with Mia X holding her down.
Feen was there?
Anybody you saw that I did not see, you're welcome to mention.
There was a lot of people.
Romeo was there.
Romeo was there.
Romeo was front and center.
I'm sorry, Romeo, yes, he was there.
Romeo, an original little soldier.
And Snoop Dog popped out with No Limit as well.
Surprise the crowd.
Now, kicking off the verses, cash money kicked it all.
with 400 degrees, let's take a listen.
Jesus, straight out the gate.
If I ain't a hot boy, then what do you call that?
And then No Limit returned their first song
with No Limit Soldiers, let's take a listen.
Because I'm the hardest mother effort.
A lot of them songs, y'all, y'all know we can't say certain words in the radio.
So a lot of songs, we just, you know, trying to...
I don't even know how you score that.
I'm gonna be honest with you.
I don't even know how you score that round.
How do you score 400 degrees versus No Limit Soldiers?
That's a tie.
That's a tie.
I don't know how you score.
I just
They were both huge
It's not about huge
It's about cultural impact
They both had cultural impact
No limit soldiers was big
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I would say 400
Because I don't really resonate
With the
No Limous soldiers
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We have a different age.
But it's a different age, too.
Because Nolan was the 90s.
That's what people forget.
That was like 90s.
And I was born in 92, so I'm not even, you know what I'm saying.
That's a different age group.
That's what I'm saying.
Well, so there was a lot of back and forth,
literally what you guys just did because, you know,
they're going back and forth with the music.
At one point, Burtman, you know,
stopped and wanted to remind the crowd before he,
you know, dropped his song that he started stunting.
Let's take a listen.
Fresh, can I say something, bro?
I started this stunt.
I started this jury.
I'm the first with diamonds in their teeth.
I'm the first with tattoos in their face.
I started this stunt.
Let's get it.
Let's get it.
Everybody put your ones in the air, man.
Push your motherfuck ones in the air.
You know me?
I don't need an introduction.
This shit.
Robbing his own friend their own buttons.
This on hanging wrist like it's just starting this.
I'm on the top like a hot day.
Birdman said that I thought to myself, oh, so you're the problem.
You're the reason all these people got tattoos on their face
and spending all their money on jury.
Well, it seemed like they was having fun the whole time.
Yes, it was a lot of fun.
And I had a friend on the ground for us
because I wanted to know what the crowd was like.
And he said, even in the, it was a party in the crowd.
Like people going crazy, there were people there
dressed in the fatigue.
So then Juvenon.
It should have been in New Orleans, though.
Las Vegas ain't deserved it.
Definitely should have been.
I thought the opposite.
I felt like the crowd wasn't as hype
because they didn't really know
most of the songs
that didn't know the era.
So he said that it was very, I mean,
we kind of addressed this before it happened, though.
He said it was very obvious what songs people knew.
So like if a back that, you know,
A-up comes, people are throwing it over.
You can say, oh, I didn't know.
Back that ass up comes on.
He said people throwing it over.
They're dancing with each other.
Songs that people knew you really felt, but yes,
the age gap did matter a bit.
I think they tried to do the best they could
with the cameras as well.
But he said that they had a good time.
Now, Juvenile comes back in with a project chick
and no backchat
the whole time Juvie
is performing throughout the whole verses
let's take a listen to Juvenile.
Yo, that's how he performs
all the time.
I did a couple of shows with Juvenile
over the years.
Yeah, like he,
because you know they fuse
the comedy shows
with the, you know,
hip-hop or whatever,
but like,
and nobody can outwrap
Juvie.
Jury's still rap
like back in the day.
It is what it is.
When the music go off,
he's still going.
But look, I want to mention
even the entourage
is like behind him.
There's a bunch of young niggas,
man, he was just on the phone
like texting.
Like, they could have been hype.
I'd have been putting
the stage, that was not hype.
Jaquoise was hype.
You can't even see him.
You know what was Jaquoise in?
I didn't even see him.
I saw Jaquise and Juvenile son.
They were, you know, they were hype.
On a no limit side, I feel like they were all jumping and bouncing.
Oh, yeah, the Mojee's.
Yeah, they were like, yeah, I get what you say.
You saw that, right?
Like, it was like, they was just on the stage texting.
Now, we're going to have to bring this back in the next hour because as they closed out the
verses, uh, Birdman gave a, uh, a speech of sorts that now Turk has responded to.
I don't care about the drama.
Listen, it was too short.
I'm not done yet.
I'm not done yet.
It was way too short.
It was way too short.
It was way too short.
But before we get out of here,
I wanted to play Mia X responding to a project chick with her with Freakow
because we didn't play any of her.
Oh, yeah.
Dropping the clothes bombs for Mia.
She was at work.
She was at work.
They should have let Mia X get off.
You don't want to go to war with a soldier.
That would have been hard.
They should have let her get off.
I'll take you a man.
That would have been hard.
Mia was dope though.
Because Mia always was a show stealer, a song stealer with features.
But they should have let her get off those two.
record as well. I feel like a lot of people got to meet her
because of this verses, too. There was
a lot of people that didn't know how
dope she was. I saw LeBron
post about her too.
There was a lot of people who got
to meet her through this. I remember when that, whatever
that female list that came out this year, and I
was like, one of the glaring omissions was
me at X and everybody was like, I was crazy.
It was too. It was me and X. Roddigger.
Right, now I know why.
Absolutely.
Sure. Yeah. And I was introduced
to me through this. Through the verses.
How you didn't play about it, about it? You played number
No one's done it, but you ain't played about it, about it.
Look, we got to pick and choose time here.
We got more.
We got 10 audios a day.
It was a lot of music played at this verse.
And it was too short.
It was too short.
It was 10 rounds.
Yeah, it got to the point where they could only pay like that.
Between both of them?
Yeah.
Yeah, they could only play one verse from a certain songs at a certain point.
Also, it's rules with the verses like that.
Like, you can only play a verse from this song.
Well, this one was 10 and 10.
They only allowed 10.
I wonder why.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I know that the clips had a performance after the verses.
ended at Complexcom.
My friends stayed for that as well.
So I don't know if maybe they were just trying to fit it into a certain time slot.
But if so,
they probably should have let them close out the night
so they could have had a bit more time because it was,
y'all feel like this was forced time-wise.
Everybody was ready for this too.
It was like,
it was a lot of hype built.
You didn't get wobble,
wobble,
you ain't get how you do that.
I mean,
I know you probably couldn't play,
but you should have played Mystical,
the man right,
yeah.
Mystical, here I go.
They didn't even touch Mystical.
Was the mystical wasn't there.
No,
little Wayne,
go DJ, Juvenile.
I got that five.
He didn't show up
and they played the one little Wayne song
and people just stood around
and people were like,
where is Wayne?
So like,
baby what happened to that boy,
Wayne,
Hustler's music?
There's so much music
they left on the table.
Both sides left so much music on the table.
Yes, yes.
So we'll be back at the next hour.
But yeah,
it was great for what we got.
All right.
Well, that is the latest with Lauren.
Now when we come back
we got front page news
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front page news. Quick sports
if you're into Major League Baseball of the World Series
is happening right now. The Dodgers
won last night, 5-1-1,
they tied the series to 1-1.
When is Kendrick coming out to perform not like
us, man? When is that happening? Drake was at the game.
I don't know if Kendrake's...
No, Drake was at the game in Toronto.
He ain't come to that game in L.A.
No, he wouldn't do that one. He wouldn't do that.
Now, in some quick sports, the Ravens beat the Bears,
the Bills beat the Panthers, Patriots, beat the
the Browns, the Broncos' beat the Cowboys,
the Packers beat the Steelers, the Colts beat the Titans,
the Eagles beat the Giants, the Texaners,
and congratulations to the Jets fans.
You guys won your first game this year.
They are now one in seven, one of our producers,
and bought up Red.
He has his Jets jersey on.
He bought it eight weeks ago, and this is the first time he wore it.
Why, Red?
I just don't understand why.
Like, you got to rep your team at all times.
Like, I saw a guy yesterday wearing a Jets T-shirt,
and I felt sorry for him, but I was still happy that he was reping.
You know, yesterday I had a Jets hoodie on in the first half,
and I saw how bad the game was going on.
I turned it off.
God, damn.
And I saw the winner, like, oh, man, I finally wear my jersey.
Now, tonight and Monday night football!
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What's up, Mimi?
Good morning, NB.
Jeff Chaldemand.
How y'all doing?
Bless Black and Holly Favorite.
How you doing, Mimi?
Good, thank you.
All right.
So this morning, we start this hour with development of the Hurricane Melissa,
now a powerful Category 5 storm-packing winds of 160 miles an hour.
Now, Melissa is expected to make landfall in Jamaica.
early Tuesday before moving onward to Cuba.
Jamaica, they are already seeing heavy rainfall at tropical storm conditions and
forecasters warn of catastrophic flooding, landslides and destructive winds as the storm moves ashore.
Mandatory evacuations are underway in low-line areas, airports are closed, and emergency shelters
are open across the island.
Cuba is also under hurricane warnings as officials there breaks for impact late Tuesday.
And the storm, it has already taken a tragic toll in Haiti and the Dominican Republic.
In Haiti, landslides triggered by Melissa's rain have killed at least three people and damaged hundreds of homes.
And then the Dominican Republic, flooding has cut off water to more than a half a million people and force evacuations as the storm barrels through Northern Caribbean.
So we'll continue to watch this.
So sad, man.
Absolutely.
And moving back here at home in Pennsylvania, where what was supposed to,
be a weekend of celebration turned into tragedy at one of the nation's oldest HBCU's authorities
say 25-year-old Joanne Jeffers of Delaware was killed in a shooting on the campus of Lincoln
University late Saturday night. Six others all between the ages of 20 to 25 were wounded but are
expected to survive. Now the shooting broke out just after midnight during homecoming celebrations
outside their international cultural center. Chester County District officials say the violence, they
believe the violence was not planned, but erupted spontaneously. Let's listen to that.
Investigators now are operating under the strong belief that there were multiple shooters at this
event. We're operating under the belief that the shooter or shooters in this case did not come
here with a specific design to cause a mass casualty event. And so we're treating this as a
shooting that broke out in the middle of homecoming weekend. Well, one man, yeah, it is. One man,
Zqueas Thompson Morgan, also from Delaware.
He has been arrested and charged with carrying a concealed firearm without a license.
He's being held on $25,000 bail.
Police haven't confirmed whether his gun was used in the shooting.
Now, witnesses say it was a chaotic scene as crowds scattered in every direction.
Let's listen to that.
And then next thing you know, another stampy coming, but it was just like, run.
Like, it was like more like you felt it in your, in your spirit.
Like something was not, something was happening that wasn't good.
So I started running, and then the next thing I know, people getting shot.
As soon as I walked here, and I heard like five gunshots.
Five, five, five.
This said somebody got shot in the head.
We heard them in there.
Everybody just started running.
You know how people are.
Like, as soon as you hear them, it's nothing to do but think run.
Yeah.
So sad.
You've ever been to a homecoming celebration.
It's just like the crowds and just chaos.
They said chaos erupted with people just running everywhere.
Yeah, like you said, if you ever been a homecoming, especially HBCU homecoming,
That's one of the safest places to go.
There's never, another reason to bring a weapon with you.
Like, it's always love.
It's always love and having a good time and celebrating school and school spirit
and just catching up with friends.
And sometimes homecomings don't just bring a lump,
but it's never a place to bring a weapon.
I've never felt unsafe at a homecoming.
Ever, ever at all.
Well, officials are asking anyone with photos or videos
to contact the FBI tip line classes at Lincoln University.
They have been suspended today.
And they say counseling services are being offered.
And meanwhile, just a few hours away in D.C.,
another shooting taking place near the campus of Howard University.
Police say five people were shot Friday night near the campus.
Police say none of the victims were Howard students,
although one did, does attend Morgan State University.
Two suspects are in custody,
but authorities haven't released their names or said what led to that violence.
That's crazy to salute to anybody that went to a HBCU homecoming this weekend.
And condolences to anybody that lost somebody, man.
I hate when you see something like a homecoming.
And if you ever bring to an HBCU homecoming,
you know what that love is.
You know what that love feels like,
whether it's an 80-year-old alum to a, you know, a 19-year-old student.
It's just so much great vibes and great feeling like you never want to see this.
You never want to see that.
Absolutely.
You're right.
All right.
And so we talked about this earlier last week.
So while police paced together what happened overseas or there,
overseas investigators are involving solving another.
other type of crime. I'm talking about the one that we talked about with that jewel
heist at the Louvre Museum. Well, this morning, two men are under arrest. A French
prosecutors say the suspects were taken into custody Saturday night. One of them were
caught trying to board a flight to Algeria. Now, both men are in their 30s. They were already
known to police. Investigators say DNA evidence left at the scene helped identify one of
them. Officials haven't said whether any of the stolen pieces worth an estimated $102 million have
been recovered. But we talked
about this. The heist took less than eight minutes.
They used a crane. They cut through glass,
smashed display cases, and escaped
with priceless crown jewels linked
to France's royal family and the
Napoleon Empire. France
says that more than 100
investigators are working on the case
and they're trying to figure out how they
pulled off such a brazen attack.
Experts say that the jewels
are historically priceless but could still
fetch millions on the black market
if broken apart.
Absolutely.
All right.
Well, also, lastly, today is my son Landon's birthday.
He turns 12, so I just want to wish him a happy birthday.
Happy birthday, Landon.
Yes, thank you.
How was your TED Talk this weekend too, Mimi?
It was so amazing.
Thank you, Shaldemand, for asking.
It was so amazing.
Just being able to connect with the community in Al-Sadena
and just be amongst so many people who are still rebuilding
and just doing the work was so great.
So thank you.
It was a really great time.
Is it up on YouTube?
We can watch it?
Not yet.
They said it's got to go through TED, and then Ted will put it up on their platform and all of that.
So I will keep you guys posted on when it's on YouTube.
Got you, right.
Thank you, Mimi.
Absolutely.
That is your front page news.
I'm Mimi Brown.
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Now, when we come back, Total Case, and 112 will be joining us.
They're on tour together, and we're going to talk about their tour.
I think it's the Room 112 tour.
So we're going to talk about them
and everything that they got coming up.
We're going to talk about hip hop and music
and R&B history a little bit.
So don't go anywhere.
It's the Breakfast Club.
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Morning, everybody.
It's DJ NV.
Just hilarious.
Shalameen de Guy.
We are the Breakfast Club.
Long of Rose is here as well.
We got some special guests in the building.
Come on now.
We have 112.
We have Total.
And we have Case.
Welcome.
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
Yeah, man.
How are you all doing?
This is not a random link up y'all going on tour together.
That's right.
This is the 112, room 112 30th anniversary tour.
We're so excited.
Brought our brother Case and our sisters total with us.
So, you know, have a good time, man.
First, first show is when?
November 5th.
Yeah, November 12th.
Yeah, November 12th, Stafford, Connecticut,
Brooklyn is November 13th.
So there's some members missing.
So are the members going to be on tour?
or this is the tour?
This is the tour.
Okay. This is the tour.
Okay.
Yeah.
Nice.
Yeah.
My other members is coming.
You by yourself, Jason.
You can tell you.
What made now the right time for all of y'all to come together for this tour?
Ooh, that's a great question, bro.
Honestly, man, it just felt right.
It being 30 years, you know, us being in the game.
So it just makes sense for us to just get out there and just show the fans that we really appreciate what they've been doing.
You know, been rocking out with us for the last.
30 years, man. So, you know, we're really excited about it, man.
Like, we're managed, total, and 112 were managed by the same, you know, crew.
So, of course, that was an easy, you know, decision to make with that.
And then, in case, you know, being, you know, the, that's the bro, you know what I mean?
And all of us having that catalog is definitely, we want to bring back that 90 nostalgia, you feel
me, so.
Absolutely.
And all y'all can still sing.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That's, you know, not everybody doing it, but y'all can still sing.
That's important.
That's good.
Yes, man.
How did y'all find that balance back in the day between?
between being, like, sexy but strong, but still screeed with it.
Like, how did y'all find that balance?
It was just natural.
Like, that's just who we are.
I grown up, Jersey, like, just how we went.
And that's what made us to me.
That's what made us who we were, total.
The name started out as total opposites because we were all individuals in our own way, you know?
So it wasn't like you had to buy the brand.
We came as we were.
We were the brand, yeah.
And how was the bad boy ever back then growing up, right?
because it was a time 90s,
2000, it was nothing but bad boy
in the radio, nothing but bad boy
on the streets, mixtapes, the clubs.
How was that everywhere?
It felt like anything y'all did hit.
It was great.
It's a beautiful thing.
It was fun.
That's what we learned a lot of our grind
from that whole era, just grinding,
just out there going to the tunnel.
Like, it was just fun.
It was just like a big old party.
Yep.
Yeah, that tunnel they.
Yeah, crazy, way.
I was coming from Atlanta, you know what I'm saying?
Like, it was a different, it was like a different culture.
So, you know, you can imagine how that felt.
He's coming, I know he's from the South, South Carolina, you know what I'm saying?
So you're coming to New York.
It was a culture shot.
You know, so, you know, but it was so much fun because it was just like, okay, clubs smaller.
But, you know what I mean?
But it was like in your face.
So, you know what I'm saying?
So we, but we learn a lot musically here.
What about the few cases now?
You weren't on bad boy.
You were on deaf jim.
You were a songwriter
You had
You have the
I always say
You have that one wedding song
That you will get paid for
For the rest of your life
Happily ever after
Yeah yeah
Yeah let's hope
He said let's hope
So how was it
Coming up for you
In that during that time
Because at that time
You were deaf jam
Def Jam was heavy hip hop
And you was probably
One of the only R&B singers
At the time
I mean it was
It was cool for me
Except for
The only problem
What they was learning
On the fly
How to do R&B
And so I get caught up
And that sometime
But yeah
I mean
You know how big they were
then. So that part was cool. It was just a lot of times, they had a lot of hip-hop sensibilities
because it's hip-hop label. But one of the things that helped me was that I was the last
artist that Russell personally signed a death chair. So I've always called him and be like,
yo, I can snitch. Did you know their records was going to be so timeless, like touch me,
tease me, happily ever as well? I didn't know, but that's what I always wanted to do. Like,
I never wanted to make, like, trendy stuff. I always wanted to make music. Like, my parents
would listen to stuff from, like, 20, 30 years earlier. And it had me do it.
And so my thing was like, if I could do that, then I'd be happy.
And then everything else would fall in line.
You worked with Mary J, Beyonce, Fawkeley Brown, Usher, Usher.
Who else?
There's a bunch of people.
L.L.
Ghost face.
Genuine, Tyrese.
Yeah, Genuine, Tyrese.
Jam and Lewis.
I felt like Def Jam didn't treat you like a regular artist, right?
With Total and 112, I would see them out in the club.
Like, Bad Boy would have them out.
deaf jim artists deaf jim would have them out i didn't see you deaf jim put you out as much like that
was it because you didn't want to go out or it probably didn't know what to do with him because he was
r and b i think a lot of it yeah first of all i hate going out okay so if i didn't have to be there
that's why you always be like yo he ain't a lot of stuff about you because i know how to
yeah i'd be over here so yeah i mean i wasn't really big on going out or when i did it'd be
i'd be somewhere else unless i had to be you know somewhere with with them got you
Did you guys, well Mike, I saw you say that you feel like, you know, you guys first album, without that you don't think that R&B would be as prevalent or as worldwide as it is right now?
So, yeah, the mind frame was we started that whole trend.
It's like the way music sounds now, 112 had a lot to do with that because no one can really give us a group that did it the way that we did it before 112, like as far as singing over hip-hop beats and stuff like that.
Like you are challenging, find me a group that did it because back in the day.
what you had the A side and you had the B side, right?
And then on the B side, so the records, right?
They had the record.
You had the uptempo record where they were singing,
but they were always all that singing over uptempo beats and stuff.
It was like, it was confusing.
One thing that Puff told us was like,
when you're in the club, when you're recording a record, right,
sing the song as if you're in the club drinking
and you're trying to hollet a girl.
You ain't going to be in this girl talking about,
you're going to, girl, I want to be with you.
No one else
You know what I mean
It's gonna be something smooth
So when we wrote records
When we wrote the uptumbo records
And then slim having the voice
Being able to just lay on the tracks
The way that we did
Like that started on hold everywhere
People now like when you hear R&B
It has a hip hop element to it as well
It's not just R&B
It's a hip hop element
But isn't that the bad boy formula
It wasn't that Diddy
Like I feel like Diddy did that
Like with J. Blyzee
I feel like he did that with Mary J. Blige
I feel like he did that with Total
I'll give you that
I'll give you Mary J. Blige
because, yeah, she helped,
because we always say that, like,
Mary, it's between Mary and 112,
but 112, really.
And, yeah, Puff did, you know, he did contribute it
because we came in, we just,
man, we are and beat, we aren't beat,
bro, like, forget all this stuff, man,
like hip hop, that's going to cheap
our sound and all this stuff,
and he's had the vision,
was like, yo, this is what's going to separate
y'all from the Drew Hills,
from the jackets, from the, you know,
the adjets and all these other groups
that were coming out at the same time.
And you know what, that didn't make perfect sense,
right?
Instead all in, I would love to come up to me in a club.
And let me tell you,
what you want to do.
Like, you're straight, just straight up.
You got my attention, right, what you wanted?
You know what I'm saying?
Exactly.
That's exactly what it was.
Yeah.
Because nine times out of ten, they're going to be able to sing.
So he's like, bro, all that in my ear, like, I don't want to hear all that.
Yeah.
Do you all agree with Mike's assessment?
Not to start any arguments here, but Case, do you agree with that?
Yeah.
I mean, it was part of it.
I mean, during that area, that's when hip-hop and R&B was coming together.
Yeah.
So pretty much.
And I feel like Bad Boy was at the forefront of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because Total was hip-hop with that touch of R&B.
You're an R&B group, but I think we were more based hip-hop with the touch of R&B.
And Mary definitely was the pioneer of that sound.
When Puff did the remixes with Jodacy, because Jodacy was just the R&B,
and then he brought the hip-hop element of them.
Yeah, it goes-facing Ray Kwan on the freaking you remix, you know?
Like, I can't even, I don't want to hear Can't You See without Biggie Puck.
Like, I hated when some of the urban A-C stations back in the day didn't play rap until they were just played the R&B.
Oh, I hated that.
They would do that with you all.
Yeah, you got to play big the part.
I mean, they did it.
Yeah.
That's so facts.
Right.
Really?
Right.
Yes, because they didn't want something.
A lot of urban Athees didn't play the rap.
That's true.
Yeah, you got played a record.
Wow.
So how did y'all sign to Puff?
When did y'all meet Puff and Puff was like, this is the group that I want?
How did that story?
Because you, it's the first time you guys up with.
We met Puffy through.
Kathy Dukes.
Kathy Dukes.
Puff is what's her son's, it, what is her son's godfather.
Okay.
Kathy, one day, when we were introduced to Kathy,
Kathy was like, I would love to represent y'all, manage y'all.
So we were riding, ride, and Kathy was like,
y'all got to always be ready, always be ready.
So she pulls up, she goes upstairs, she's like, I'll be right back.
She comes downstairs, and she was like, okay,
I need y'all to make up a song and put Puffie's name in it.
At the time, Puffy's Puffy.
He's actually in the studio with Jodacy doing the remix.
So he comes downstairs, he introduces himself,
and then we just start singing.
We're performing.
Yeah.
We like, had them all backed up against the wall in elevator.
He was looking at us like, he had his mouth open.
He was like, how old are you?
He asked our ages, came upstairs.
We watched him, you know, direct Jodacy.
And then he asked us how well did we get along in the studio?
Like if we had an argument, did we get back in the studio?
And we were like, yeah.
So he was like, okay.
So he was like, yo, y'all, y'all sound really good.
He was like, yo, I just encourage y'all to keep doing what y'all do.
doing, you know, don't let nobody break y'all up.
Two o'clock that morning, he called Kathy.
He was like, don't take them nowhere.
I want to sign them.
What was the first song that y'all did?
What was the first one y'all recorded?
Well, we recorded songs that never went anywhere because we were just trying to find our sound,
but can't you, no, juicy.
Juicy, we're biggie.
Juicy was the first record y'all did.
Yeah.
The story behind, how we wind up recording Juicy is, like, Big was like our little big brother.
Like, we were close with Big.
So we would frequently be in New York.
york hanging out in the studio with him so he called this one day he was like come to the city we
was in this he was in the studio so we went to the studio and he was playing juicy kisha started
humming something it was like y'all should go in there and put that down so he you know just gave
us some words or whatever and we went in there and we put it down and puff had us come back
the next day and do the one more chance song so that's how to start that they want one more chance
in total i never knew well because it was or juicy i never knew that yeah there's an original one more
chance. The one on the album is different
from... The hip-flav version, yep.
With the voicemail in the front. Yeah. We need to work
on that. Juicy. It says
it now when you Google it, but
I assume that it wasn't necessary
supposed to been a feature
for Biggie, because it was his first single and stuff like
that, so... Yeah, and we were new.
You know, we were new, I don't think...
It was something that just happened. Like,
we was in the studio, and we got in trouble. We were in trouble.
Our manager was like, don't do that no more. But I just
think they didn't plan for it
to be Biggie's first album to
have a feature on it. Did y'all get writing credits for it?
No, because Big wrote it.
I mean, I didn't know y'all was on Juicy. Y'all
one more chance. And we know
those records verbatim. The one more chance
dirty version is like one of my favorite records
ever. Wow.
And can't you see?
How did can't you see come together?
We just came to the studio and
the track was playing. And we were
like, oh, snap.
And then Terry
Robinson. What was the group
that Terry was? The girls.
She's so incredible as far as songwriting.
And she came, she was like, this is what it is.
Okay, verse, I like that verse.
She liked that verse, like that verse.
We went recorded it.
And it was what it was.
Was Bigger on it?
But no.
No, Big wasn't on it.
He was in the studio.
And then he came in and laid it down.
It's crazy.
Wow.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Did y'all enjoy the moment of the 90s?
Because when I look at y'all, it's like, y'all are like mythical figures to me.
Right?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Because y'all have to find not just a genre,
but like y'all would have a soundtrack to our lives.
Did y'all really enjoy the moment?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
We had a lot.
We have fun.
We had fun.
Yes, sir.
Listen, when they said bad boy was in the building road, it was just, it was a different.
I mean, we were on a high.
I mean, you couldn't ask for a better label, you know, in a place to be.
And especially, like, aspiring artists, when this is something that you dream of doing,
to land on bad boy and I do we remember the time clearly when it bad boy was everywhere
it was nothing to just walk in a club or walk anywhere and just get that love admiration and
respect like it was wearing black leather they were in the world wearing black leather you know we
wearing you know headbands everybody doing headband it was it was it was deepening the music
yeah it was a there's a full-bone culture family unit yeah yeah it was a movement and we loved each
other.
Yeah.
And we still
go in each other's
sessions.
We still do.
We still do.
We still do.
A lot of ways
how the record
got together.
Like,
um,
like we tell the story
of how we,
we're on bigs.
Like,
if you look at,
listen to life after death,
right?
112 is all like big.
He shouts us out
throughout that whole album.
That's because we were in the studio
with him.
Like so Daddy's house
had the Neve,
the SSL and the
pre-production room, right?
So 12 is in the pre-production room.
Junior Mafia Big is all
in the,
the need room,
C's come out and it says,
yo,
Big one of hollet y'all.
So we go in there
from here up,
weed smoke, right?
So we can't see
when nobody's in.
So we feel it around.
So Big is just sitting there,
right?
And we use this out,
we use the word genius.
We throw the word genius out a lot,
but this is true definition of genius, right?
So we're walking in.
Big CS, CS,
so, that's it.
He says nothing else, right?
So everybody else, Junior Mafia,
they're moving around.
Everybody's laughing.
Everybody's smoking.
having a good time, everybody's drinking, you know,
12, we baked out of our minds because we don't smoke.
Oh, y'all, you smoke.
So we baked, right?
So around two, three hours later,
big's like, yo, I'm ready.
And the engineer's like, ready for what?
So he, dude gets up, going to the booth and does,
I got a story to tell.
Wow.
So the part, I'm my 112 CD Blas,
like, because we were in the room with him.
Wow.
He's listening to everybody's story.
He's listening to Junior Mafia, tell that story,
112, tell that story.
And then he goes in that, doesn't write anything down.
And that's what the genius is, like,
we saw that first.
Like this dude never wrote anything
Him and Faith. Faith. Faith doesn't write anything down either.
So Faith don't write anything down either.
Faith don't write anything down.
Jesus.
Yeah, Faith don't write anything down.
We watched her do, you abandon me.
Love don't live.
We were at, what's the other studio, bro?
I forget what is.
Hit Factory.
Yeah, she was a Hit Factory
doing that record with Mary J. Blatt.
And she was just went in there and just did that whole thing
without no.
I'm like, yo, where the paper?
She don't need no paper?
with a marker and nothing like
just singing from life
that's crazy
big in faith
the only two I've ever seen
I got a story to tell
just straight came to him
he went after just hearing
everybody's watching everybody
tell their story
like and he just created
Kaiser SoSafe
yeah
like that's so safe
perfect bro
he Kaiser Sosay the hell out of their record
him and Jay Z
the only people that do that
oh yeah
Tia
oh tip do that too
yeah
yeah
tip don't write
that thing down there
that is a gift
for sure
Back in the day, it's like R&B used to celebrate, like, love and heartbreak,
but now, like, it feels transactional.
Yeah.
Right.
What do y'all think made vulnerability cool back then?
It was just a time period where, you know, where everything was going on in the world.
We used music as our getaway.
It was our medicine, you know what I'm saying?
Anybody remember the 90s, when we came to the club,
when we came anywhere, everybody came to party, too dance.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, now you go into places.
I don't know how it is too much here in New York.
as much, but I know in Atlanta,
everybody's staring at each other.
It's everywhere now. Oh, they're on the phone, you know,
and it's like, it's a different
type of a feel. So, you
know, unless it's homecoming. If it's
homecoming, Illinois, they're partying.
That's true. But regular clubs
is... But even when you say that,
you know, the Illumina, it's
us, and they're cranking
it up, you know what I'm saying? So, you know,
yeah. Back then, R&B was kind of
it was more hyperbolic, you know what I mean?
It was, you know good damn
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We're not doing all of that, but we gave you the impression we sung in and made you believe that that was possible, anything was possible in there.
And nowadays, man, it's just.
It's different.
The music is too.
And we came from good music, from my parents.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I was about to say, too.
I think the other thing that did it was hip hop became more hyperbolic.
Definitely a good word for that.
But when it merged with R&B so much, it became not cool to have feelings.
But I guess that's how people felt.
And then the strip club culture got involved when it's everything is that.
And I always say that with everything that's going on in the world and people's lives,
you gotta be able to sing about something more
the threesome's in the strip club
there's something else going on
you know what I'm saying
and nobody really does that
well I'm gonna say nobody
but a lot of the music does have that
no way don't have the feelings
that don't have the vulnerability
like you said
it's all trying to be rappers
basically all the sing is trying to be rappers
and a lot of it has technology
but it's so crazy because even the rappers
back then most of the rappers back then
we loved them because they were vulnerable
you love pot because he was vulnerable
you love big because he was vulnerable
yeah how do y'all balance
egos, you know, when
you're dealing with three legendary acts who
all had their individual moments
You know?
It's a respect level.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's like, because I'm actually fans.
Yeah.
Actually fans.
I love that.
And I know it sounds cliche or whatever, but it's the truth.
And, you know, we, so often
we don't tell the truth, you know, we get
in this type of form or whatever, but we
are genuinely, like, total
was our first pick to be on this room
112 tour. Case was our first pick
to be on this because case his catalog we just spoke about his catalog ridiculous total
ridiculous one 12 ridiculous and we wanted to bring back that 90s nostalgia you know and just
bring back that whole era of i knew where i was when i heard only you for the first sign you know
i knew i was when i heard cupid when i heard i'm missing you or when i heard can't you see for the first
sound like i remember where i was when i heard these records not where i was to be where i was
that ego is healthy on a tour, especially
like this, because you have to, if you
use it the right way. Like, for me, it's like,
okay, I'm gonna try to kill everybody.
They're gonna feel the same way, and then the fans
the one that win, as opposed to people who just
go up there, don't care. We know, like, I just got to
check. We come from that. Yeah, you got it.
You got it. We come from that. Can we
do our tour and be like, yo,
total, 112 just killed y'all.
And that's how you got to do it. That's how you got to do it.
That's how you used to threaten us all the time.
Friendly conversation.
Yeah, and that's the best, because the only people that win
the fans. Was there ever a low time
for y'all? Yeah.
Yeah. It definitely was
I think for us the resurgence of the
90s, you know, was something that was
what we appreciated more than anything. And that happened
about what maybe almost like six, seven
years ago. Yeah, it was like what the pandemic
around that area. You didn't know when, you didn't
know what the state of music
and how the industry and how
we were going to perform was going to
be. Remember everybody started
experimenting with the whole
you know, taping, you know,
and then in the video,
it was just, yeah, I thought
we were going to just, it's going to be that, you know.
So, so much gratitude
now to, you know what I mean, see it
for where it is. And
we feel like it's a blessing that
of all the errors
they chose to pick, they
picked the 90s. You know what I'm
saying? So, thank you. You know, I would
want to go back. Just to, I really want to experience it
in New York. Like, oh, oh, man.
Oh, man. You would have loved.
That was crazy.
I said that one time you laughed at me.
Go back to time.
I don't remember that time.
I just feel like the time that you guys were like the top, it was such a good time here.
It doesn't seem real.
Like when we hear the stories or like, yeah.
You can just sit here and listen to y'all talk about just walking in the studio big.
Biggie's just there and like, you know, I can't imagine being young and just being like on top.
Yeah.
Like in that time.
But you're working so hard that you don't even realize it.
Right.
even realized where it took us to step away from it, you know, and okay, we can use it as our
downtime, you know, and say that that was a time for us to go back and look at it and say, man, we
did more than just saying, you know, we contributed to a culture. Like, we, we are part of
history, you know, we're part of it. So it's, that was amazing, it's looking at it now,
being older, like you're looking at it now, because my kids now, they're going back and they
Googling like, dad, y'all, y'all did pieces of the cream?
Look at the video, bro
That's me
That's you there
You didn't already talk of that
My kid
No because I don't go around
I don't go around
Hey look at Mike for one time
You know I don't
I don't do that
You know
I like
They just
They grew up as normal
As I hoped I could
Because I could teach them to be
Because it's such a mental
It's strange
That the industry takes
Like it gives
But it also takes
I mean
One of the things is
You know
The lack of
You know the mental
Health
that comes along
you know what I'm saying with that
because you're inundated
with all of this
you know you have to be perfect
every time you see
you're out
your face is always got to be right
your clothes got to always be right
oh man they don't fell off bro
like I just came from the gym
you know
but I think the camera messed that up
the camera messed it up
because when like
the reason I asked me if he was out
is I would see everybody out right
I was a kid growing up
so I would go to Grand's tomb
and see y'all on a hundred twenty-fifth street
right right I'd go to the ton
and see y'all in the tunnel and different things.
And there was no VIP area.
No, it was together.
That's what it does.
And it gave you a connection with the artist.
But there was no phone, so it was no, I'm taking a picture.
Right.
There was no.
The only thing that you would possibly do if you want,
and nobody went to La Coney, but you might ask for an autograph.
But nobody wanted to come to the club and do that.
So it gave you a, you enjoy the moment.
And I feel like people are not enjoying the moment now.
Yeah.
I did that with our Beyonce's tour.
And I'm like, I've never went live, ever went live on Instagram.
And I wasn't expecting this.
Beyonce came out and she just started speaking.
I'm on live.
I'm like, I'm on live, y'all, this is B.
And she started speaking.
And I started crying.
I was not expecting.
I was like, okay, guys, I got to go.
Literally, I might have been filming for like 10 seconds.
You've got to be in the moment because it's an experience.
You know what I mean?
Watching the back is not the same.
No, it's not.
I want to ask Keisha and Kima, back in the day,
what made y'all decide to go up to the radio station and press,
Wendy Williams, like, what did she say to y'all
that calls y'all and say,
you know, we got to go see her.
Were you there?
No, hell no.
Way before my time.
No, it was way before my time.
Okay.
That was the 90s, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Were you there?
Were you looking out of the window?
Well, you know, and...
She was playing with our money.
She just was disrespectful.
Yeah.
And we had already sent a warning.
Yeah.
And then she just kept.
saying like first Wendy was just like
oh y'all can't sing and then we came
up we came up to the radio station
we sang she was like oh we sang acapella
and she was like oh y'all can sing
and it was that it was just like oh they're jersey
and I hear that they can't pay rent and
they can't pay their rent and stuff and we were like
you know what enough is enough because at that
time that's all she was doing it's like listen
you know when we get these
opportunities as black artists
we got to uplift them and talk more about the
positivity that they do right
instead of you give a moment
a blitz of something that they did positive
and then something that happened negative
you're playing that all day
so we were just like enough is enough
Kim was like
can we go up there
period
because I didn't
you know I know politically
we would have been in trouble
if we just went up there
so we asked permission
and he didn't say no
he was like go ahead
I know
I'm like Wendy
what is that that you had to say
and she was like
no no no
no talk that stuff right now and then
her husband at the time
security he had said something to our security like
come on man come on and she ran to the car
she got in the car and stuck her middle
finger out of the sunrolet
and then we never heard no more from her
no she just tells the story you said y'all sent her a warning
was y'all the one that sent the fish no
what fish? I don't really want
she was a deaf chair
oh my boss a sent
oh wow
boss said that dead fish
in the mail.
Yeah, somebody said to a dead fish
She sits with the fishes, yeah.
She said that, she said that death.
I was Boston did that.
God, let's a piece of you know that.
I was on that gym.
And it happened around the time when I just signed
and I just met her.
Shout out to her too.
She passed a few years ago.
But, yeah, I didn't even know about that.
Wendy used to, I can't say nothing about Wendy
because she would find out stuff about me,
but she would call me and be like, look,
this was, I'm hearing.
And she would send me the faxes.
I don't know why she looked out for me.
as she did, because somebody was dead on.
Nah, I hope not a crush on me.
But the reason I missed that era, though,
was because y'all was able to pull up on people.
Now, the day, people just be in their basement
behind the computer, talking crazy, you know what I'm saying?
That's the worst.
Internet thugs.
Yeah.
Got so many questions, I know you've got to go.
I would appreciate.
I just got to ask one more. I'm sorry.
No one else beat.
Were y'all confused when y'all first heard that beat?
No.
No, because there was snares all over that place.
Well, we did not know what was going to be put over it.
Okay.
Because that was Terry, once again, Terry Robinson.
It's like, how are you going to write over it is?
That's what I said when I heard it.
And when we heard it, we went crazy.
It's one of my favorites.
It hits so hard.
The remix.
If we could just get all of those acts on the stage one day, we're going to stay hopeful.
Yeah.
Oh, that shit's crazy.
It is.
Well, that joke's crazy.
All right.
Well, thank you guys for joining.
us. One 12 total.
Love y'all.
For having us.
Got your tickets for tour.
There y'all.
Y'all.
And it's the breakfast club.
Good morning.
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Lauren becoming a straight fit.
Tell her.
She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.
She gets to detail.
I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.
She'd be having the latest on this.
The latest with Lauren La Rosa.
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All right, so there was a moment at the end of the verses with Cash Money No Limit
where they were wrapping up and Mani Fresh gave Birdman and he tried to get Master P to come back
on stage two, but Master P didn't come back out.
They gave, you know, the CEO some time to just talk about how epic the night was.
Let's take a listen to Birdman.
This shit started with me and my brother Stunner in a little small-ass house and we knew
who was going to change the world and we changed the world.
Cash money forever, you heard me?
When I met blood, I was trying to do something different in the gang.
I had started this young, trying to get some money and not be in the streets.
I met BG.
I met Wayne.
I met Juvie.
I met Turch.
Shout out to Turkey.
You ain't here, but fuck you.
We're going to f*** with you and we won't f*** with you.
Don't go on script.
We lost a lot of soldiers.
Cash money ain't going to never die.
Long as I'm alive, cash money ain't going to.
going to never die.
Shout out to my NBA young boy.
NBA risked.
Who don't like it?
We would all the bullshit.
If you ain't with us,
you know.
Yeah.
So that's how they close it out.
Now, Turk has since responded.
And actually, Turk was hosting a watch party for the versus in Houston.
And he was live on his YouTube channel.
And then he did a follow-up video where he was talking directly to Birdman.
Let's take a listen to Turk.
Birdman.
I didn't think you dissing me.
none of that, but you did put a 10 on the one with it, you know what I'm saying? You said we
with you when we won't. That's all the way all the way wrong. Y'all can't with me when y'all
won't, you know, y'all can't with the fans when y'all won't because at the end of the day,
y'all not stopping my bag. I can't control what nobody else got going on, so I don't trip
about that. You ain't going to see me going off. Nah. The fans are not getting what they're
supposed to have. If it wasn't for the fans, none of us would be who we
You put the bag up, but it wouldn't be no situation if it wasn't for us all putting down and doing what we do as a whole.
Everybody contributed.
I have accepted what it is.
When you spoke, you spoke for y'all.
Turk is absolutely correct.
You know what Turk said is true.
It's all about the fans.
And Turk, he also said something like the reason Wayne wasn't there was because Wayne said if all of them aren't there, he's not coming.
Yeah.
If that's the case, Birdman should have swallowed his pride and let Turk be there because.
because nobody is bigger than the program.
And a lot of people were disappointed that Wayne wasn't there.
And I saw people criticizing Wayne for not being there.
But if Wayne is standing on the fact that I wasn't there because it's not all of us there,
I respect it.
And Turk is 100% right.
Yeah.
And he also, Turk also on this YouTube video, talked about the fact that, because he had said in an earlier lot,
which is the one that you're talking about, Charlotte, that he felt like no limit one.
And people took that as like shade.
But he explains it here.
And he says that he feels like they won because of them being able to get together.
listen. I feel like last night, man, the fans lost. A lot of people try to make things be
about them. I read when the fans be, man, keep your head up. Do this. Keep going. We're rocking
with you. That shit mean a lot to me. I went dead almost a decade in the penitentiary.
And you know who stood down with me? It was my wife and my fans. People got to understand,
bro, that if people lose, it's the fans, bro. I feel like no limit. No limit came and they did what they
needed to do for the fans and to me that's why they went you know they put their differences to the
side for the fans yeah so i mean look hopefully maybe one day that'll happen they'll get it together
because when i did see them in new orleans and they were all together it felt really really good
and you could tell that they were all happy to be together including uh little wing um so yes that is
people forget this is a celebration of music versus it's a battle but it's also a celebration of
music and I think
I'm a fan
I would have loved to see them all together
and really performing all those songs together
but that's why Turk but Turk said it's true
it's all about the fans and that's
that's why it's three big questions for me from
verses why was it so short right
because the fans definitely got jipped from that
only being 10 rounds when it's usually 20
I want to know why wasn't Wayne there
officially is what Turk said true
why wasn't in New Orleans
yeah that we know because ComplexComp
wasn't in New Orleans and and you said
it's a celebration of music right
so was not playing Mystical's music
intentional because Mystical's music
was a big part of no limit
and if it's just a celebration of music
we should be able to play the music
right? You know what he wasn't there to perform right?
You know what I mean? It would have been odd
just to play his music kind of when they played a movie
and it was odd. Yeah it was very
it was so weird it was crickets and people
were like what it's happening right now
probably because a Millie didn't fit the vibe
I'd have played Go DJ. I really
you know what I'm saying? Go DJ would
fit that vibe better than a Millie
and Manny Fresh could have rocked out with that a little bit more
because it's like they played it and they all just
kind of took an intermission because they didn't have any other choice
but too. But I'll get an answer to those questions.
Man, Mary is a bop, though.
That's crazy. Anything Wayne is a bop.
That's why, to me, I'm like, man, like, people would
really, they really want to see all y'all together.
It's like, it's history, but also it does feel like more of a celebration when you see
them all united and on stage together.
As we wrap really quick, I did want to shout out Brandy and Monica.
They returned back to Chicago.
They were able to fully get through the tour this time.
They brought Maya out on stage as well.
Yeah, and that was everywhere.
where as well too. But we have Brandy apologizing to the fans in Chicago for the last time when she
had to leave the stage. That's take a listen. We love you guys from the bottom of our hearts.
I just wanted to take a moment and apologize. I have to. I wasn't feeling well and I just, I just
wanted to apologize and I'm so happy to be here. I'm never met to my step.
y'all give it up one more time
for the
bridge
now is that a schedule stop or did they go back
because she left early? I think they went back right
because they were done their shows weren't they?
No no no no the weekend that we covered
was their first weekend. No no I'm saying
that they were done in Chicago
oh yeah I mean I thought it was a scheduled
show. Was that a schedule? Oh okay I thought it was
a scheduled show and I know Maya coming
out was a surprise but I thought that it was a
scheduled show. I just thought
it was nice that she took a moment and you know
When Maya came on, we do have audio, but the crowd is going so crazy, you can barely hear Maya.
That's good.
I mean, we could play it, but I don't know how well it's going to sound on air.
But, yeah, it was a big moment for them.
So shout out to them, you know, getting through this second stop.
And great to see all the, you know, people on stage this weekend and doing what they love.
Yeah, and the girls that I grew up to.
I grew up to Maya, Brandy, Monica, Kelly.
Like, hell yeah.
Yes.
What is it for this hour of the latest.
All righty.
Thank you, Lauren.
Now, we got donkey today, Shollam, who you give me your donkey, too?
Man, you know, every day of our life.
We say we wish it would when it comes to our children.
Well, what happens when it actually does happen?
Is it worth it?
We'll discuss for after the hour.
All right.
We'll get to that next.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
With a donkey.
It's time the donkey of the day.
A bunch of donkeys around here.
With the he-hop.
Yes, you are a donkey.
What the hell?
What the hell is?
What do you need you do?
Some donkey the day's just saw themselves.
Solomon, give it to him.
Breakfast club one day.
Give it to him.
Oh, man, Solomon, who you giving him going to do to now?
Well, donkey of the day for Monday, October 27th goes to a 43-year-old David Scott Jr.
Now, I get on this radio every day and tell you all to do your jail math, okay?
Your jail math is when you find yourself in a situation, and you have to calculate whether or not you can afford to do whatever time you will have.
have to do if you react a certain way
to such situation, okay? Everything
has to be calculated, all right?
The money you will spend on bail, if you even
get one, the money you will spend on
a lawyer. Can you even
afford the time it will take
to be arrested, process, detained,
etc., etc.? You have to make all
these calculations in your head before you
make certain decisions. Now, some of us
have decided that if someone ever harms
our kids in any way, we go into jail.
And I too am in that number,
okay? But what I need us, parents to
understand is there is levels
to reacting, okay?
It's one to before you harm
somebody being the highest, all right?
Our kids are worth it all, but everything
doesn't require you to take it to
one to ten.
Okay, case and point, the story of
David Scott Jr. from East Point, Michigan.
He was arrested after he allegedly
threatened the shoot-up
in elementary school
because they was playing in his child's face.
I can't make this kind of
stuff up. Let's go to, what's the
ABC 7 Detroit for the report, please.
Police say a parent at Pleasant View Elementary School got so upset that his first grader didn't get snack time Wednesday that he made threats to staff members during child pickup.
You allegedly confronted the teacher and stated words to the effect of, I'll air this out and I'll be back tomorrow.
That suspect, 43-year-old David Scott Jr., shaking his head at the allegations in court Thursday for his arraignment.
He pleaded not guilty and his bond set up 100.
$50,000 cash surety due to a criminal past.
On Thursday, police added extra patrols to the area,
and the school had only indoor recess as an additional precaution.
But that child's mother tells me there's more to this story.
Tikesha Watkins says their son has been coming home from school hungry for weeks.
Overwhelmed by loud noises, sometimes he'll skip lunch,
so snack time is sometimes the only time he has to eat.
So he's been coming home hungry?
Hungry.
But the school district told me there is.
is no official snack time.
While the mother wasn't there at Pickup Wednesday,
she does not believe the allegations against Scott Jr.
I mean, yes, we get upset as parents,
and certain things could have been said,
but I do not believe that that came out of his mouth.
Guess what racist?
I got this one.
Shut up.
No.
Okay.
Oh, God.
Okay.
They'll act like they don't be appropriating our culture, too.
You don't know what the answer is.
Okay.
Now, I did look at it.
up on urban dictionary though okay just to be sure and urban dictionary says airs
this bitch out is a term used by gangsters are really mad hood people with guns okay
the example urban dictionary uses is Jamal man F this I'm gonna air this bitch
why Nita damn you right let me grab my nine it's safe to say that urban
dictionary is ran by people who wouldn't be considered urban okay by the way
I hate the term urban but that site is clearly not ran by anyone from
culture. Now, David Scott Jr. is saying
he didn't say this. Okay. I don't
know if he did or not. But whatever he
said was enough to get him arrested. And I
just want my brothers to know that we don't
always have to take it there. Okay?
Whatever there may be. And I
also understand that this is a lot of us
brothers' first time being fathers and
there is no manual for this thing. But
this is why smart people learn from their own mistakes
and wise people learn from the mistakes of others.
We must learn from David Scott
Jr., okay? You
don't have to threaten the teacher. You don't have to
threaten to shoot up the school, none of that, all right.
Calmly, calmly request a meeting, okay,
request a meeting with the teacher or school administration
to discuss your child not receiving a snack
because when you're in this private setting,
okay, emotions are less heightened, all right?
The teacher in school can explain the snack policy
are the fact that they may not have a snack policy.
Then both parties can find a solution.
Okay, this approach reduces conflict.
It opens up communication.
And it's just always good to have a witness around
So nobody can say you said something you didn't.
Okay.
Another thing you can do, just always feel free to gather information, all right?
Policy review, all right?
That is very important.
Sometimes we just assume wrongdoing, but maybe David should have checked to see if the school has an official snack policy.
And then he would know that this child isn't actually missing snack time.
They just don't, you know, have a snack policy, okay?
But that's why you should always make a formal complaint.
That's another thing that you could do, all right, write or submit a form.
concern to the principal of school district all of these things are better than making uh alleged
public threat okay because now you in jail away from your child and now you got to fight a case
all right money that could be going to your child's future is going to keeping you out of prison
this brother was charged with possession of ammunition by a prohibited person okay that's a five-year
felony all right our $5,000 fine he's also charged with an intentional threat to commit an act of
violence at a school. That's a misdemeanor $1,000 fine. This orderly obscene conduct and he's a
habitual offender because this is his fourth offense. Three previously committed crimes with
drugs and weapons related and his bond is $150,000. Okay. So that's about $15,000 because
you usually got to pay 10%. Calculate your jail math people. Calculate your jail math and
always ask yourself, will it be worth it? Please give
David Scott, Jr., the biggest he-hoff.
No game, huh?
And this is also why you got to, you know, be like,
you know what, baby, you go down there and handle it
because if I go down there and handle it, I'm going to jail.
Okay, you know what I'm saying?
So you got to go turn to the baby mama
and say, you go down there and handle it
because if I go down there and handle it, I'm going to jail.
Some people are not lying when they say that.
Yeah.
Okay?
Damn.
All right.
Well, thank you for that donkey today, sir.
Now, when we come back, Ryan Holliday.
You said you didn't want to me.
No, I don't want to.
Why?
Because it's, it's what, obvious?
Yeah.
What part?
What part was obvious?
That is out?
What part was obvious?
You know, whatever.
You know.
Honestly, the whole story is the whole story.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we don't need to play.
No need to play.
All right.
All right.
All right.
When we come back, Ryan Holiday, we'll be joining us.
He has a new book, right Shelter?
Yes, man.
Ryan Holiday, one of my favorite authors.
He wrote books like ego is the enemy.
The obstacle is the way.
I read his daily stoic every day for my daily affirmations.
But he has a new book out called Wisdom Takes Work, Learn, Apply, Repeat, okay?
And we'll be here to talk to him when he comes back.
He'll be here to talk to us when we come back.
All right.
Don't go anywhere.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
The Breakfast Club.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy.
Just hilarious.
Charlamagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
Lawn the Roses here as well.
We got a special guest in the building.
One of my favorite authors ever.
It's a new book. Wisdom takes work. Learn, apply, repeat.
Ladies and gentlemen, Ryan Holiday. Welcome back.
Thanks for having me. How are you feeling this morning?
Doing awesome.
What book is this? Number what?
I don't know.
Did it 10? It might be 10. 15, 16, something like that.
Jesus. Christ.
Fifth or six time he's been up here.
Yeah.
Very good to me.
Yeah. No, we like having you, man.
the wisdom takes work learn apply repeat and in the book you argue that wisdom is the virtue on which
all other virtues depend how did you arrive at that belief so the four virtues of stoic philosophy
which i write about are courage discipline justice and wisdom they're all separate but they're
related in that you know wisdom tells us when and how to apply the others if you it doesn't matter
you know how good your heart is if you don't have the wisdom the
intelligence to know how to bring it into the world or you know courage is important but you could
be courageous for something real dumb so so wisdom is the sort of layer on top that we have to
apply to all our other skills and assets well it's one thing to do the research was there a specific
moment in your life that made you realize i think we've all met some smart people that do dumb
things and i think we've all done dumb things and you you look at you look at wisdom as being the
sort of the key to not just a successful life, but a good life, right? You can, you can be really
good at what you do, and then you can blow it all up, or you can be profoundly unhappy or, you know,
how many smart people are lacking in self-awareness. So I just think wisdom is this sort of piece
that brings it all together. And I think, I think one of the problems is that we assume wisdom is
this thing that just happens, right? We go, sure, school is important, but, you know, experience is
important, you know, wisdom comes with age. It's no guarantee. I met a lot of dumb old people
too. Absolutely. I was always taught. Smart people learn from their own mistakes, wise people learn for
the mistakes of others. I completely agree that wisdom is a law start. I think you have a lot of
smart people. I don't think you have a lot of wise people nowadays. Yeah, yeah. And I mean,
you need this not just to be successful, as I was saying, but like, how do you not fall for
demagogues or how do you not fall for scams? How do you,
rise above the noise how do you separate fact from fiction wisdom i think is you know there's this
word discernment right the art of discernment like how many people can really see the difference
between good and really good you know right and almost right uh truth and complete nonsense that to me
is the missing skill of our time we're doomed guys it's over pack it up go home we're not doing yes we are
no i think i think everybody eventually has something in their life that wakes them up to that
whether it's at a different like might be young might be older but you all
You always thought that, like, wisdom comes with age.
Yes.
That saying.
So you probably hate that saying, huh?
Yeah.
Churchill was joking about this guy he didn't like, and he said that although he
occasionally stumbled over the truth, he quickly picked himself up and carried on as if
nothing had happened.
Right?
So people are, I think life is always teaching you, right?
But you don't have to hear it.
And so life will sometimes whisper.
Life will tell you nicely, things that you need to know.
And then when we ignore that, it becomes louder and louder and louder until sometimes, you know, you have to learn from some kind of catastrophic failure or catastrophe.
And so, you know, your point that we can learn from the experiences of others, that's the cheap, effective, efficient way to do it.
And then a lot of us go, no, no, I'd rather figure it out on my own.
And that costs not just them, but the people around them.
Like when we're late to learning lessons, that doesn't just affect us, but that affects the people that work for us.
That affects our family.
That affects the people who, you know, bear the consequences of that, you know, painful lesson that we chose to learn the hard way.
I think wisdom has to come from age, though.
Sure.
Regardless.
I mean, regardless of what the person, you can meet a stupid old person.
Yeah.
But there is some wisdom that comes from what they're doing.
Whether if they work at a plant, whether they, whatever they do at the house, there is some type of wisdom that they can.
can continue on to give to somebody else.
Well, you know, the root of the word idiot is somebody in ancient Greece who did not
participate in public life.
So, you know, you can read everything you want, and you can read a lot, and that'll make
you smarter than the average person.
But if you're not engaged and involved, you're going to miss some things that you can
only learn from experience.
You know, Da Vinci would sign his letters, a disciple of experience.
experience. You have to learn by doing, you have to put yourself out there. And that's why I say
it's learn, apply, repeat. So you learn the things, you hear the lessons, you study, you go to
school, then you got to go out in the world, and you find that a lot of what you learn now has
to be applied, or a lot of what you learned, you didn't actually understand it. And then
you repeat that cycle over and over and over again. And each time, that's a positive feedback
loop that's making you smarter and better. And they talk about educational. A lot of people
and I'm seeing this a lot more and more and more
that people are not necessarily wanting to go to college.
Sure.
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And they feel like the wisdom that those professors have might be outdated
what they're teaching what's your thoughts on that well look I'm a proud college dropout so I'm
all about it there there is and always has been a difference between school and education so I think
the problem is if you don't know what you're trying to do uh how do you know what the best form of
schooling or education is for you I say that all the time by the way I think it's stupid that we
force kids to get out of high school to say go to college and pick a major immediately when they
don't necessarily know what they want to do if you know what you want to do that's
great, but there's been times where kids, but like, I don't know. Like, don't make me pick
a major and make me take these courses if I don't necessarily know what I want to do in
life. And by the way, nowadays, when we live in a world where we're kind of preparing for a future
that won't even exist. Yeah. Because the AI going to be having all the jobs anyway. Well,
and look, spending a couple hundred thousand dollars over four years is an expensive way to
figure out what you want to do. Absolutely. Especially if at the end of it, you find out that
what you want to do is something that didn't require college. For, for me, I met Robert
Green, our mutual friend, and then I realized that's what I wanted to do. And then I said,
well, am I going to keep going to college or am I going to go directly learn from the person
who's done it? So I'm a big believer in apprenticeships and mentorships. You got to find
your teachers. Sometimes those are college professors. Sometimes they're business executives.
Sometimes they're, you know, your neighbor down the street. But you've got to find who can teach
you how to do what you want to do. When you started off as an apprentice, oh,
Robert Green, one of the first things he put you on was 40 law of power, right?
No, I worked on the 50th law.
50th law.
So, like, the first thing I did was transcribe in a world before AI.
I transcribed hours and hours of interviews between him and 50.
And so that was part of my education, it's just listening, not just listening to it,
but having to painstakingly type it all out.
And so I got this masterclass and not just, you know, how he worked, but all the people around him.
And, but what I was actually learning was like how you put a book together.
And Robert showed me how to research a book and how to write and then how to operate in the industry.
You want to find the people who are further ahead in what you want to do and do it.
Although, to be fair, like in college, I think one of the most professors are professionals in what they do.
They're not just teachers.
They're researchers, they're experts, they're, you know, they had a previous experience where they did the thing.
And, you know, every week they have office hours where they have to sit there and meet with the students.
And nobody comes.
So I thought the crazy thing for me is like, I didn't go into the library at my college
until after I dropped out and I was writing my first book because I was like, oh, wait,
this is an incredible free resource that I was too busy, you know, doing the college kid
thing to take advantage of.
So all this stuff is there.
It's just you got to be self-directed and self-motivated.
Another claim you make in the book, you say cultivating wisdom requires mental struggle.
And there's no shortcut for that.
So what does mental struggle look like from a, from a, from a,
practical things. Well, look, like, books are basically free. You know, you can get them from the
library. The amount of wisdom in a book is incredibly cheap. But it still takes work. You got to wrestle
with the book. You got to read it. You got to put the time in. It's not just the struggle to, you know,
make the time to do the work, to read, to go to class, whatever. But then it's also wrestling with
big questions. Like, if you think life is black and white, if you think it's easy,
if you think everyone is trying to tell you the truth all the time.
I think, again, you're going to find yourself pretty vulnerable.
So it is a struggle.
It's a battle against ignorance.
It's a battle against misinformation.
It's a battle against your own biases.
I think one of the things the Stoics remind us is that, like, your mind is not always your friend.
We all have prejudices.
We all have biases.
We all have mental shortcuts that we do that prevent ego being another one that gets in the
way of us learning and seeing what we need to see. So you've got to struggle against your
yourself too. I was going to ask with your books, it seems like your target or your goal is to
allow people to think freely but like have an educated like base that they're pulling from. Yeah.
How hard is it becoming for you to go around teaching all of this in this like time with this
administration? I saw the thing that happened with you at the naval base and canceling your
lecture that you do. Yeah, I've been doing a series of lectures at the Naval Academy on the Cardinal
virtues for the last four years. And the last one was canceled. I was supposed to lecture about
wisdom. And I was going to talk about Admiral James Stocktoe as a famous graduate there, who famously
took a course on Marxism at Stanford before he was shot down in Vietnam and sent to a Marxist
prison. And the idea is like, you want to learn from the enemy. You want to understand what they think
or else you're vulnerable to brainwashing and propaganda. Actually, Seneca, the Stoke philosopher,
said this, he said, we want to study like a spy in the enemy's camp. So I was supposed to give
this lecture, and like a couple weeks before I went, they started removing books from the library
at orders of the Secretary of Defense and the president because they were too woke or pro-D-E-I.
And I own a bookstore. I can't get up to give a lecture about wisdom as they're literally
removing books from a library, so I was going to mention it. And, uh,
they found out and they said, look, you've got to remove those slides or you can't come talk here.
Damn.
And this is one of the elite universities in this country.
These are people who someday are going to be piloting fighter jets or aircraft carriers or nuclear submarines.
Like these cannot be sensitive little snowflakes or we're in big trouble.
These are people who are going to not just have to make highly complex technical decisions,
but profoundly ethical and moral questions.
And yet here we are protecting them not just from,
from, you know, protect potentially political books, but Maya Angelou's memoirs was one of the books
that they, that they removed, probably because no one in Hexas office has read it, knows anything
about it. He probably chat GPT told him it was a woke book, so he wanted to remove it. So I felt
I couldn't do that. And that's, by the way, where all the virtues are interrelated, because it's not
just knowing that book banning is stupid and reckless and dangerous. But then I have to decide, you know,
do I want to preserve my access, or do I want to say what I think is true?
And also, do you want the, you know, Secretary of Defense to be mad at you?
That's where courage comes in.
But then also justice.
Like, hey, it's the right thing, so you do the right thing.
But, yeah, we are in a dangerous moment.
Do you know the word cacistocracy?
So like, oligarchy, democracy, different types of governmental system.
Cacistocracy is government by the stupidest.
that's what we are facing in this moment people who are who are not just not smart but actively
afraid of and angry at and resentful of people who have competence and knowledge because they're
fundamentally threatened by it are they so we have to replace the term idiocacy then yeah i mean
idiocry it's a similar way to say the same thing okay but but i mean i don't think the american
people are that stupid i think we are in a moment where we have
elected a number of officials who are actively stupid and deliberately ignorant and what you said
is interesting because you said they're resentful of people who are smart and to me I'm like I don't
think they don't I don't think they believe anybody's actually smarter than them there's a
hilarious list of all the people that Trump has said he is smarter than and it's like basically
everyone that's ever existed I'm saying yeah but but it's this idea that like my feelings are
more true or stronger than your expertise.
So it's this antipathy towards expertise, credentialism.
And look, like, the experts are wrong all the time.
I'm not saying they're flawless.
But, like, you don't want to be driving the smartest, most qualified, most experienced people out of the armed forces, out of the government, out of business.
And that's the sort of bent that we're on.
It's going to end very, very badly.
Oh, listen, I want to ask you about that.
Listen, if, do you think the political.
climate made them feel that way because for the last 10 years all the political pundits and the
strategists they've just been wrong they have been wrong like and that that you know this idea of
negative capability negative capability is the idea can you can you hold two opposing ideas in your
head so on the one hand the experts are wrong a lot on the other hand expertise is still really
important so you can't throw the baby out the bath horse so you got to go hey why were the experts
wrong about this, that, or the other. What biases or tendencies do they have that you've got to
protect against? And at the same time, you got to elect qualified people. You don't go, hey,
that guy talks about the military on Fox News on the weekends. Let's put him in charge of
the most powerful military in the world. I mean, he's not even qualified to be the spokesperson
for the Pentagon, let alone running the Pentagon. And so you got to go, hey, here's what I believe
here's what I think is important, and then still respect, you know, wisdom, intelligence,
credentials, experience.
I want to ask you, what role does listening more than talking play when you're in, like,
a culturally diverse setting or when you're sitting with somebody with a different ideology
and you're listening to them?
Yeah.
But at some point, you might be like, well, that's wrong with some bullshit.
You just keep listening to you in a jaggle.
But that is that idea of negative capability is like realizing, for instance, I have to think
about this with my kids. My kids are never wrong about their feelings because they're their
feelings. Now, I might feel differently. It might not change. Hey, you got to go to school. You got
to do X, Y, or Z. But like, your opinion is your opinion. And so I think what strong people are
able to do, resilient people are able to do, wise people are able to do is understand that people
feel differently about different things, have different opinions about different things,
and to be interested and curious about that without necessarily changing your mind all of the
time. So I think diversity is strength in the sense that you want to bring as many different
opinions and viewpoints and worldviews into the equation. But at the end of the day,
you do have to decide what you think, what you feel, what you're going to do, especially in a
position of leadership. The leader ultimately has to listen to everyone and then make and own
the decision. But it's based on what their opinions are based off of, meaning your opinion or
how you feeling could be a certain way. But if it's based off of some bullshit, it's not true,
then your feeling is kind of wrong. And I think that's our problem with expertise is people
are like, well, but I don't want that to be true. And it's like, okay, that's great. And I respect
that you don't like it, but it is what it is. Well, Ryan Holiday, ladies and gentlemen,
A new book, Wisdom Takes Work.
Learn, apply, repeat.
It's available right now.
And thank you for joining us.
Always a pleasure when you pull up, Ryan.
You're the best.
Thank you guys.
Next time, bring some chocolate milk from a brown cow.
I do have a brown cow.
It does not make chocolate milk.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
The Breakfast Club.
Lauren becoming a straight fat.
Tell her.
She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.
She gets the detail.
I'm a home girl that knows a little bit about everything.
She'd be having the late.
She'd be having the latest on this.
The latest with Lauren LaRosa.
Sometimes you have facts.
Sometimes you have details.
Sometimes you have a little bit of everything.
Well, it's the latest.
On the breakfast club.
Talk to me.
Okay, so before we get into more news, I wanted to go back to Brandy, Monica, just to answer
your question about whether it was an added date because of what happened with Brandy.
So I spoke to Black Promoters Collective, who are the promoters around this tour,
and they said that it wasn't added because of what happened with Brandi.
It was already added prior to.
Brandy in that first tour stopping her not been
able to finish because of the demand there.
Yeah, because of the demand there, they added
that and they added a few other dates and other
places as well as well too because
of the demand. And I did ask them
because when Monica performed, not Monica,
Maya performed yesterday, there
was such a huge
response to it. Of course, anytime you see Maya
anywhere, but people want her as
a part of the tour and, you know, they
yes, I asked, you know, were there conversations
on that now because money long, which is
who Maya stepped up for,
mentioned that she had pneumonia, which is why
she had to step away. So I was wondering if there
was going to be more dates where we could see Maya
and they say, as of right now, no.
They go back on stage on the 29th in Detroit
and as of right now, Money Long is supposed to
be well and be there, but if not, you know, it's not off the table
and the people love Maya and they say they felt
the response and they hear the fans.
That's not fair to compare Money Long to Maya though.
And the reason I say it's not fair is because you already have
a nostalgic toy, right? Because you got Monica,
you got Brandi, you got Kelly
Rollins. So the people that are coming there are probably
people that are into that nostalgia
that era. So when you put a
Maya on there over a money long
of course they're going to vibrate with Maya
more. I feel like too
there was conversations because Coco Jones is on this
tour as well too and she has been doing... I didn't even know that
yeah she's only on certain
dates. She's been doing a great job on
the dates where she showed up but
they were having you know the conversations
around that too like why do we have to
get the R&B singers from
various times? Why
not just everybody from one era and it's like you
kind of, you want to do that because you want to, you know, build out a full show and have
openers and all the things. But, you know, it's kind of, you can't compare it to. So you got to let
the younger girls get on stage and, you know, put in their work as well too. Yeah. So again,
I just wanted to answer that question for you. Thanks, Lowe. Now, um, in other news, we should
have this in now. Kamala Harris is talking about whether or not she will be running for president
again. And surprisingly, she gave us a positive update. Let's take a listen.
Because of your baby nieces, Amara and Lila, when are they going to see a woman in charge in the White House?
In their lifetime for sure.
Could it be you?
Possibly.
Have you made a decision yet?
No, I have not.
But you say in your book, I'm not done.
That is correct.
I am not done.
I have lived my entire career a life of service.
And it's in my bones.
And there are many ways to serve.
I've not decided yet what I will do in the future beyond what I am doing right now.
You've been very clear that it's a possibility you might run against to become president.
And in my experience, interviewing politicians, when someone says I'm not done,
it means they are thinking seriously about running.
But when you look at the bookie's odds, they put you as an outsider, even behind Dwayne the Rock Johnson.
Is that underestimating you?
I think there are all kinds of polls that will tell you a variety of things.
I've never listened to polls.
Did she say the bookie odds?
That sounds crazy.
You know, Jess, you complimented me on these orchards.
I walked in this morning
and I produced
What's they called?
Orchids
Yes, orchids
Yeah somebody bought this
This orchid
Is it an orchid or orchids
It's all right
Just get through it
We know your star
Well somebody
Our producer Eddie bought this
Orchid in for me
And when I read the card
These are from Kamala Harris
Oh that's amazing
That orchids are really really lovely
Former Vice President Kamala Harris
I said former vice president Kamala Harris
I said former vice president
Well I didn't say that
But we thought you were going to read the card
Do you open the card
No it's personal
But that's an amazing
You get Orkids
When somebody is special to you
Orkid is not like an ordinary fly
Let me Google that.
Can you move the orchid in front of Jess's face?
Because the camera shines right on Jess.
You can't see it.
You know what?
I can't see it.
You know what?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah.
So this has been Kamala's thing.
Jess.
You was helping them through it too.
Orchus symbolized luxury, love, and beauty.
Yes.
Yes.
And they last for a long time.
They live for a long time.
Yes.
Yeah.
So this was Kamala speaking with BBC.
And the reason, I mean, it's Kamala Harris, of course,
is going to pick up.
But people are picking this up as her strongest.
answer to date on whether she won for president or not because of the possibly so
there is that but she said she's not done exactly now in other news I'm gonna take it
back to the HBCU homecoming vibes and we know I saw Kamala Harris too posted over the
weekend and shot when out Howard University where she was a student because of the
homecoming feeling now Ari Arie Fletcher who is money bag yo's girlfriend and
influencer online she posted something that started a conversation she says why are
grown adults at college homecoming.
Is that normal? I'm genuinely asking because
I didn't go to a big college. I did stuff like
that, but it seems so off. I thought that
was for the kids in school.
I thought that was an event for the kids in school.
So she doesn't understand
why alumni attend
homecoming. You know what could be interesting about
that if she would have just left it at, is that
normal? And they let somebody answer
as opposed to giving her opinion.
Because she did say, I'm genuinely asking.
That's right. Yeah. So yeah.
Yeah, well, people were very offended and she came
back and responded. I know they
went crazy on Facebook. Of course. I know
the alumni, I was like, how dare you?
Who was this, the young girl? They probably was on the yard
stepping to some money
back, you know, just because. Yeah, so she had to come back and say,
y'all offended because I made y'all feel old. I was just
asking, big and mad, literally. So, yeah,
people got upset because they're like, first of all,
we're allowed to be here age-wise.
It's nothing unnormal about that.
And secondly, if you don't know, you should ask somebody
before you put that out there. People are just...
They were mad because she sound crazy, not because they're old.
And if she's ever been to a homecoming, I'm sure she's been booked for a lot of them.
There's so many different age groups when it comes to homecoming.
And like me and Charlemagne was saying behind the scenes, the reason a lot of these schools are open,
a reason a lot of these students get scholarships.
Because they're the alumni.
If they're paying their bills.
If they're paying their dues.
They're making sure that those schools stay afloat.
So that is a lot of the reason why even the NIL deals with a lot of these HBCUs where players are able to get some money.
That is the reason why.
But I will say.
You know, she's the, the events that she hosts during homecoming, if any at all, would be for the younger crowd.
She would not be, yeah, that's probably why she.
But alumni probably pays for it.
Yeah.
Alumni probably pays for it.
Right, which is something that she needs to know.
It's a learning lesson, though.
It is.
And not in a negative way.
I think that HBCU culture, college campus culture, unless you experience it, you don't know everything.
There's nothing wrong with her asking a question.
It's just not HBCU culture.
This is all colleges.
Yeah.
It most, you could talk Harvard.
You could talk St. Johns.
It doesn't matter.
The alumni is usually what funds that school to stay afloat.
Well, Erie will be back on the campus and she will now understand.
That's a good lesson though.
When she sees the, you know what I mean?
Like that.
The alumni events look like they'd be more fire, but I'm 47s and don't listen to me.
But the alumni events look like they be more fire any goddamn way.
That's such a great time.
People, they dress up.
They get it, man.
The older ones, them season do women be dropping in low.
Yes.
You can tell them, drop it down in a while.
And they're up there in their prairie and these looking beautiful.
Let me, okay, Envy took me to Hampton.
for my first time ever over the weekend
they had set up like sections
like Jess you could go and get
bottle service like on
the football field and it was like multiple
different sponsored ones I've never
seen a set up like that sounds very
grown up very alumni
I don't take nothing to impress a young girl any
they had sexes
bottle service
at homecoming you just be out in the yard
with your red cup
and I never seen it was like
the buffet was laid out
It was a great set up.
I took it's amazing.
That's all the take.
I took her through the process of the students party to where the 20-year-old's party to the 30s to the 40s to the 50.
I took her to the process so she can see everything.
She can be excited.
She was saying like Hampton was one of the best homecomings that she'd ever went to.
She didn't want to go.
I mean, she didn't want to leave Hampton is what she said.
Now it was over.
Then we went to Norfolk State after because she was hosting at Norfolk State.
An amazing time in Norfolk State.
Shout out to the alumni fast.
Lloyd performed and people were so excited to see envy they love you guys that people always
ask me about you guys whenever I'm somewhere so shout out to homecomings and all the things
and shout out to you know Ari we'll see her at somewhere next year
home color wise well that is the latest with Lauren let's get to the mix it's the breakfast
club good morning
Good morning, everybody.
It's D.J. N.V. J. Salarious.
Salomeyne de Guy.
We are at a breakfast club.
I'm out in Dominique.
I'm coming back tomorrow morning,
so I'll be back in the show in studio tomorrow.
But I just want to salute to everybody out here.
I mean, they welcomed me like no other.
They took me all through this island and taught me about the island.
This island is like a nature island.
So it's not really been, quote, unquote, touched, as they said.
It's very, like, so many trees.
like it's it's so many uh rivers and so many uh what do they call it hot springs yes y'all got 365 rivers
envy that's right talk that talk but it was just an amazing event so i just want to salute to the
tourism board i want to salute they had the huge creole festival it was like probably 60 70
artists performing from vibes cartel to uh uh spice to tewa savage just so many artists so i just
want to say thank you for having me salute to martha salute to uh daffin uh for having me i know
was a tough way to get me here, but we actually got me here.
So I just want to say, thank you.
I enjoyed it, and I'll definitely be back.
That's beautiful, man.
I'm glad that you are getting in touch with your roots.
And it's Dominica's not Dominican Republic.
People are mad at you about that.
They was like, tell Charlemagne that he is not from Dominican Republic.
First of all, let's be clear.
Y'all don't realize how much envy has claimed to be a Dominican all of these years.
So he can get awards.
I did.
He had to float at the Dominican parade.
It was Puerto Rican Day Parade.
And I didn't have a float.
I was just DJ.
NBA out there beefing with Puerto Ricans as a Dominican
just to try to get an extra check.
This guy diabolical, man.
I'm telling you.
Oh, my goodness.
Now, you were out in South Carolina, right, Shala?
I wasn't South Carolina this weekend, man.
It was the University of South Carolina's homecoming.
You know, that's my wife's alma mater.
She used to cheer leave for the University of South Carolina.
And I was also there on Friday, the icon living Don Staley.
I moderated a conversation about her book Uncommon Favor,
which I had the privilege of publishing.
earlier this year. It's been on the New York Times
bestsellers list for weeks. So, so with everybody who came
out to the Colonial Life Arena to watch
me in conversation with Don Staley,
as well as Asia Wilson,
okay, four-time WNBA
MVP, three-time
WNBA champion. It was crazy
because I've done a lot of interviews in my life
but sitting between Don and Asia
and the arena that they made famous,
I was sitting there like, damn, both of these women
got statues, a block
apart in this beautiful city
that we all love called Columbia South
parking line. So, you know, that
different was top. That interview was top tier for me.
So salute to Asia Wilson and Don Stanley.
That's amazing. And to your girl,
Just Solarius will be in
Charlotte, North Carolina this Friday
and this Saturday coming up. And then I will
be giving away, I keep repeating.
I will be giving away a cash prize
to the person who shows up with the best
Halloween costume on. So get your tickets now
if you haven't yet. Justelariusofficial.com.
I'll be in Charlotte, North Carolina
this weekend. We got four shows, two
on Friday, two on Saturday.
Justillarsofficial.com.
I love you, Charlotte.
Can't wait to see y'all Friday.
All right.
Well, Charlotte, you got a positive note?
I do, man.
Salute the Ryan Holiday for us showing up today.
Salute the 112 total in case as well.
Make sure you go check out that.
What's the name of the tour?
Room 112.
The Room 112 tour that they're all on right now.
But salute to Ryan Holiday, he's got a new book out.
Wisdom takes work.
Learn, apply, repeat.
And I want to say one of the quotes from the book,
because I love this quote.
The good thing about not being an expert about something
is that it's a solvable.
problem. But ignorance, if you choose, can be a temporary state. Okay. Expertise is merely a function
of your interests, your teachers, and your drive. So basically what he's saying is, uh, there's
nothing that you cannot learn. So ignorance, if you choose, can be a temporary state. Have a great day.
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