The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Cassie Testifies on Diddy ‘Freak-Offs’, Tory Lanez Stabbed by Convicted Killer + Snoop Dogg & Dr. Judith Joseph Interview

Episode Date: May 14, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Snoop Dogg stops by to talk West Coast legacy, purpose, 2Pac regrets, and his new album. Dr. Judith Joseph also joins the show to discuss her book High Functioning, hidden... depression, burnout, and the pursuit of joy. Plus, Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to a woman who robbed a Dollar General, then came back for her phone. Listen For more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:16 yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo Good morning, how y'all feel out there? I feel blessed black and highly favored happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners Good morning. Good morning. You go to court today? No, I'm not going to court today. Oh, okay You got the tie on I know, when I got here earlier, you know, I was like you look like a flight attendant Jess, you look so cool
Starting point is 00:02:40 I was like yo, shut up. Look like a what? A flight attendant. Oh Yes, he is so funny. Looked like a what? A flight attendant. Oh. Yes, he is so funny. But last night I went to this woman's dinner. It was a Taraji P. Ensign's dinner. You know, they got the new film coming out, Tyler Perry's Straw. It's on Netflix or whatever. And it was a nice event.
Starting point is 00:02:58 It was at a black-owned restaurant in the middle of New York City. Kwame. Oh, Tatiana. Tatiana. Oh, yes. Tatiana. Yoiana, yes and the chef is Kwame. He's a 5 star chef. Amazing, it was so good. But you really don't like Caribbean food because they do like Caribbean and African. It was so good.
Starting point is 00:03:16 If it's made right, it was so good. I didn't know what nothing was because it was so bougie, but it was so good. It was seasoned right, you can tell the oxtail, it was falling off the. It looks so but it was so good. It was seasoned right now the oxtail it was Yes off the bone. Yes Shout out to the people I saw Gail King last night. I'm sure you should be shepherd. I always say anybody I know nobody I know nobody couldn't hush in there. No, it's a ride Cameron Hall was up in there Tomeka. Mallory, Natori Norton, all of them man.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Like it was, I know I'm leaving some people out, but it was a room full of like just beautiful black women. Right. You were just you know empowering each other. Dope. And Tiana Taylor was there. It was amazing. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Dope, dope, dope, dope, dope. So y'all were just talking about the movie or just- They got us there, hyped us up, showed us the trailer. I said where's the movie? They showed us the trailer. No the movie? They showed us the trailer. No, the movie looked good though. Tiana plays a cop, Taraji, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:09 she plays a mom struggling, you know what I'm saying? You know, it's a whole. How's our sister Tiana doing? She doing good. She doing good, she look good, happy, everything. She good, yo, she got a lot of things going on. Tyler Perry do not stop, boy. Tyler Perry keep a movie.
Starting point is 00:04:23 He does not, but this looks good though. He keep a movie or TV though. This looks real good. Good though. Dope, dope, dope. Salute to all those women. And salute to Chef Kwame at Tatiana. Amazing place. If you ever come to New York City, like I said, it's like a five star Michelin restaurant or whatever the star is. It's up there. It's hard to get in to make a reservation early, but the food and the vibes are just dope. And the drinks. Yes. Oh my god. Me and my wife love that spot. Alright. Well Snoop Dogg will be joining us this morning. The icon living. The icon living Snoop Dogg will be here. Is it a crime? His album comes out tomorrow. So we're gonna be kicking it with Snoop and placing joints off the album. And you know, it's our mental health awareness month
Starting point is 00:04:59 so we have our good sister, Dr. Judith Joseph joining us. She has a new book, High Functioning, Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim Your Joy, which is out now. That's right. Well, let's get this show cracking. We got front page news, a lot to discuss. I'm sure the latest with Lauren, we got a lot of breakdowns with Diddy because it went crazy yesterday. I know. Jesus. All right. We'll talk about it. It's the Breakfast Local Morning. Morning everybody. It's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy guy we are the breakfast club. Let's get in some front page news
Starting point is 00:05:27 The Cleveland Cavaliers have been eliminated from the NBA playoffs the pay off the pace has beat them last night 114 105 and the Cavaliers were number one seed school number one seat Yes, no such the stage for LeBron go back and play his final year in Cleveland Maybe get maybe get them over the top get them them back to the East Conference finals one last time. Next year you think so? Maybe. I mean that'd be a good story. Yeah. Good storyline. The Thunder beat the Nuggets last night 112 105. Okay, she leads that series three to actually like the fact that the Pacers actually beat him. I think the Knicks have a better chance of beating the Pacers to beat the Cavs. But what's going on? Hey, front page news. Somebody got to do it.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Let's do it. President Trump is visiting the Middle East. Yes. Saying the future of the region is quote commerce, not chaos. He spoke to or he spoke at a Saudi US investment forum in Riyadh. And Trump told the audience that Iran is the greatest threat to the peace in the Middle East. And he also said he's offering the regime a better path forward. Let's take a listen to President Trump's comments from that event. Today, we reaffirm this important bond and we take the relationship closer, stronger and more powerful than ever before. The biggest and most destructive of these forces is the regime in Iran, which has caused
Starting point is 00:06:50 unthinkable suffering in Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, Iraq, Yemen and beyond. But they cannot have a nuclear weapon. So Trump signed a $600 billion economic pledge with Saudi Arabia. This is the first stop on his four-day trip to the region. Today will be day two. Now, the trip is focused on investment with several deals and agreements expected to be announced over the course of this trip. He also added that Iran will, well, you heard it in the audio, Iran will never have a nuclear
Starting point is 00:07:17 weapon. The president also made an announcement lifting sanctions on Syria. Let's take a listen to that. I will be ordering the cessation of sanctions against Syria in order to give them a chance at Great Britain. Yeah, so Trump. So the White House says Trump met with Syrian leader Ahmad al-Sharah in Riyadh and was joined by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salam with Turkey's president joining by phone. Now the White House statement says that Trump thanked those two leaders for their friendship
Starting point is 00:07:49 and told al-Sharah that he has a tremendous opportunity to do something historic for his country. Now Trump also added his administration is also opening communication channels with the new regime that ousted the former dictator Bashar al-Sahad and reports that the president will speak what he did speak with the leader of Syria again also warned again that Iran needs to talk to the US about a peace deal moving on they rolled the red carpet out for Trump yesterday too you saw the you saw the custom-mobile McDonald's yeah this is a head for yeah
Starting point is 00:08:23 I've seen that and I had a question You know we talked about it yesterday But they said that that jet that they were gifting him is that a gift for him personally or is that a gift for? Is that the new Air Force one? I was just and knock it off He gets it he gets it he gets it when he gets out of office Yeah, the administration did say that he was going to use it as Air Force One under his administration, but after to Charlemagne's point after he's gonna get it and they said they're gonna put it on display at his presidential museum or presidential library center.
Starting point is 00:08:58 So yeah, so he keeps there. Okay. Yeah, he keeps it. Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Now he will head to Turkey later this week for peace talks. To begin peace talks with Ukraine and Russia. Now the direct talks between Russia and Ukraine will not be the first, or it will be the first since early weeks of the war. Let's take a listen to President Trump talking about that. Talks are being held in Turkey later this week,
Starting point is 00:09:22 probably on Thursday, and they could produce some pretty good results. Our people are going to be going there. Marco's going to be going there. So Ukrainian President Zelensky said he will be available to meet with Russian President Putin, but Putin has not yet said if he was going to travel to Turkey. So we will continue to keep you posted on all of these international stories
Starting point is 00:09:46 as they seem to impact the world and of course, and how they will impact us here on the homefront. At 7am we'll get into that cutter and that jet and all that stuff too, because Rand Paul had something to say and he's the GOP, he's along party lines with Trump and he doesn't like the fact that Trump is going to be accepting this gift So we'll get into that at 7. All right, everybody else get it off your chest 800 585 1 0 5 1 if you need to vent phone lines wide open again 800 585 1 0 5 1 get it off your chest. It's the breakfast local morning the breakfast club This is your time to get it off your chest the
Starting point is 00:10:27 the the the the the the the Good morning, Andy. Good morning, Shauvamay. Peace, peace, peace. Good morning. Good morning. Hey, I just wanted to say, after going up three to one against the defending champions, the Boston Souths, I think that
Starting point is 00:10:52 Jaylen Brunson should be made for New York. I don't think you got time, but I'm with you. But you know what, as a Knick fan, as a diehard, long time Knick fan, you know what? I'm just quiet right now, Stephane. I'm just quiet. Yeah. Because sometimes when we talk too much,
Starting point is 00:11:04 we fake our ourselves out of it Let's just be quiet. Everything is falling into place. Cleveland just lost We I think we got a better chance of beating the paces. We are right now. You can't say that though Hey, I got you. I got you, but I don't care what nobody say Nick's in five It's lit. It's way in the city. Hey, I'm got no Achilles. He did he watched up in the city It's in five. Yes, you got you said in five Nowadays nobody say diddy they just think he said Now you saying nix, but listen, uh, don't sleep on anybody I'm not sleeping on the cab was the number one seat I know but what paces what number six? don't sleep on anybody. Because the Cavs was the number one seed.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I know, but I- And what, Paces what, number six? Yeah, but we ain't beat the Cavs all season. Hey, hey, listen, records don't matter in the NBA. Not in the playoffs. Not in the playoffs. Not in the playoffs. Not in the playoffs. Jalen Brunson, I think he the most cut player in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:11:58 You know, going into the fourth quarter when the Knicks is down five, they got the lead, you know it's a win. All right, well have a good one, brother. Here go New York putting the cart before the horse again. Somebody just relax. Be a little quiet, we gonna be calm just for a little bit. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:12:12 This is, this is Neem from NAP. Neem from NAP, what's up, get it off your chest. What's going on, man, how you doing, Charlamagne? Peace, brother, how are you? I'm all right, how you doing, Jess? Good morning. That's good, that's good. Hey, I'm letting you know,
Starting point is 00:12:24 we ain't gonna know you like truck drivers. I'm a you know, we ain't gonna know you like truck drivers. I'm a truck driver, big dog. I don't like truck drivers, I say salute to them. You got me sounding crazy. Just salute to all the truck drivers, bro. No, you like truck drivers. All right, bro, I'm gonna give you a little example. How that sound?
Starting point is 00:12:38 Hey, hey, hey. I'm a truck driver. Hey. I like that. I'm gonna blow his nose for him. Yo, shut up, baby. Oh, whatever. Hey, Amber, you said that. Envy's gonna make a load for him. Yo, shut up, man. Oh, whatever. Hey, Envy, you said that you think y'all got a better chance on beating us?
Starting point is 00:12:50 The Pacers. Beating the Pacers. Over the Cavaliers, I think so. I think the Cavaliers was a great squad or season. Yeah, but the Cavs was the number one seed. The Pacers was number four. But that's what I'm saying. That's why I feel like we got a better chance
Starting point is 00:13:01 of beating the Pacers than the Cavs. And the Cavs beat us four. But the Pacers just showed you that's not accurate. Okay, well I mean the Cavs had a messy game. I think we fared better with the Pacers than the Cavs. I don't know. Whatever, you gotta look at it like this. We beat the best big man in the game.
Starting point is 00:13:16 We beat the best team in the league. Come on man, give us some credit. I know y'all from New York and everything in New York is supposed to be bigger and better than everything else in United States. But we got this this year. Nah, I mean, I'm a New York fan, and I'd rather play against the Pacers than the Cavaliers. I ain't taking nothing from the Pacers. Y'all get busy, but I'd rather play y'all.
Starting point is 00:13:35 I mean, y'all took us out last year. By the way, it's the playoffs you never know. The Celtics said to themselves, I'd rather play the Knicks. We beat them four times this year. That's right, and we see what happens. But thank you, brother. Well, hey, man.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Y'all stay blessed. Thank you. And enjoy y'all the rest of the week. Y'all have a good time. You too. Be safe on them roads, brother. All right. Thanks, man.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the event, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Ray, Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlamagne.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Envy, what up? Are we live? Good morning the Breakfast Club This is your time to get it off your chest We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club Hello Who's this? Hey, Mr. Envy. What's up, Trav? It's Ram. Hey, Jazz. What's up, baby? Hey, boo. Charlamagne. What's up, Trav?
Starting point is 00:14:29 How you doing, sis? I am calling this morning so I can say, you know, a happy belated Mother's Day to all my girls, Jazz. Yes, yes, baby. You know, happy belated Mother's Day to you, my girl. Thank you, boo. Charlamagne, you're a mother to the world, so happy Mother's Day to you, too. Thank you, boo. Charlamagne, your mother to the world. So happy Mother's Day to you too, baby.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Well, thank you. I mean, listen, I think you should tell men happy Mother's Day because we make women mothers. Oh, clown. No, you didn't. But do you say happy Mother's Day to mothers on Father's Day? Yeah, you should. But listen, no, but still.
Starting point is 00:14:58 They make us fathers. I do want to say a special happy Mother's Day to someone. I don't think I've ever mentioned this. But I was one of the first ones she told but happy Mother's Day to my friend My little bestie Taylor Hayes is her first Mother's Day So excited for her. I'm gonna be a gunkle y'all A gunkle? A gay uncle
Starting point is 00:15:19 That's right me and Charlamagne are gunkles y'all Hey Hey back in the 90s they wouldn't let the g in the gunkles, y'all. Hey. Hey, back in the 90s, they wouldn't let the gunkle around the kids. You're in a goodbye trap. I don't know what you talking about. My gay uncle was around me. And then you ain't been the same since.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Oh, God. Oh, God. So, y'all, but seriously, but I do want to say Happy Mother's Day to my beautiful friend Taylor. That's her first one. And yeah, I'm so happy for her. Yes, sir. We happy for Taylor too.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Have a good one, brother. But all right, bro. We happy for Taylor. She already stressing her poor baby daddy out. That's all right. He deserves it. He deserves it. You got to hold that baby for all that time.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Poor P. Poor P is crazy. He be all right. He deserves it. You gotta hold that baby for all that time. Poor P! Poor P is crazy, he be all right. Damn! Look at poor P, man. We praying for P, man. Hello, who's this? Hey, good morning.
Starting point is 00:16:12 This is James calling from North Carolina. James from NC. What up, get off your chest, brother. Yeah, man. Have y'all seen that plane that's being given a trump by the Saudis? Yeah, we haven't seen it, but we heard about it. I seen two of them inside, man. plane that's been given a trump by the Saudis. Yeah, we haven't seen it but we heard about it.
Starting point is 00:16:27 I seen three or two of them inside, man. That thing is like a flying mansion. I mean, it's nicer than most people's homes. Yeah, it's 400 and something million. I mean, Air Force One is the same thing, but yeah, I get what you're saying. This thing has upstairs nine working showers, or I mean nine working bathrooms with some of them having showers in them. You ain't never seen the inside of Air Force One?
Starting point is 00:16:52 Air Force One is the same thing. I mean I'm sure they do a version. I'm telling you, I've seen the inside of Air Force One. This thing is like you're in Charlemagne, I'm telling you man. I believe you. Y'all will see it sooner or later. Well, we shouldn't see it at all, you know, because accepting gifts from foreign nations is unconstitutional.
Starting point is 00:17:14 You know, as Nikki Haley said yesterday, it's just never a good practice and you know, and this is Nikki Haley who's a Republican. She said if this were Biden, we'd be furious. Yeah, yeah. She's right about that, man. And some people are concerned that this plane's going to be bugged with wires and whatnot. So they can lift that one thing. They got to debug that plane.
Starting point is 00:17:32 They got to go over that plane a million and one times. I said, but you don't know that. I said that earlier this week. This is the same group that funds terrorist organizations. Like that plane could be bugged. That plane could be a bomb for all we know. How we know they can't just make that plane fall out the sky when they want to?
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah. Y'all have a good day, man. You too, James. Get it off your chest. He got that plane. Remember on Barbershop when Ice Cube had Oprah's guest house on his wall? This dude got that plane on his wall.
Starting point is 00:17:58 It sounded like, he said, he got a shower in it. Hell, man. 800-585-1051. Now we got the latest with Lauren? We do. So Cassie took the stand for the first day yesterday. I know she's a prosecution star witness.
Starting point is 00:18:11 A lot of people feel like she didn't get the job done, but I actually think the prosecution took a win yesterday with her on the stand and we're going to talk about it. Yeah. You were in court yesterday. Now what's the outfit today for court? Oh, this is Milano DeRouge and I don't even know what the bottom. I think it's Mika's. I have the same thing.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Yeah, it's like an Instagram brand. Yeah. Okay. It's comfy.'s. I have the same thing. Yeah, it's like an Instagram brand. Okay. They're really nice though. Yes, and they're shaped really well, right? But it's so comfortable. Today I had to get a little comfortable. You still look professional.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Thank you. Lauren LaRosa is in court all week long at the Diddy Case and we'll talk to her next. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody. It's DJ NV Jess Hilarious.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. She'd be having the latest on the latest with Lauren La Rosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit of everything. But it's the latest on The Breakfast Club. So it's week two of Diddy's trial here in New York and day two kicked off with Cassie, who was the star witness for the prosecutors taking the stand. Now a lot of people feel like Cassie dropped the ball yesterday with her testimony, but I do not agree whatsoever. Cassie got on the stand and she detailed everything from the first day that they met to the time that they spent together, her 21st birthday
Starting point is 00:19:34 where that was her first time kissing. And she admitted that she didn't want to kiss him, that she felt just very, she didn't know how to feel. She felt confused. She was young. She was crying. She set the scene early for the power dynamic of, you know, this big mogul who was supposed to be helping me in music, who had such a big life that she just uncontrollably fell in love with and things got bigger than her. That was 17 year age difference, correct?
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yes. And that was the narrative and they were together for those who don't know for 10, 11 years. Now after she details a lot of the background, she starts going into the things that a lot of us wanted to know about. So they talked to her about the freak offs and what she says about the freak offs is that Diddy allegedly was in control. She says that, you know, he would, it was very well choreographed. Like it was almost when she was describing it, I was like, it sounds like he was shooting
Starting point is 00:20:24 a music video. executive producing? No, for real, for real. She says that there were certain supplies that they would have, right? So they would do candles as the lighting and it would always be like Glade or there was another brand, as she mentioned, because he wanted it to smell a certain way. And then she says- Glade, candles.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Then she says that they would get extra linens. And we've heard this story, but she said that, because we heard before that there were extra linens and we've heard this story but she said that because we heard before that there were extra linens because of- There's a dookie on the sheets. So what she said was she was actually made to have freak offs during her period and so there would be blood on a lot of the sheets and she said she didn't of course didn't want to do that but she was being made to do that allegedly and she also alleged that there would be urine on the sheets and we've heard testimony about the urine and why that those things happened allegedly and
Starting point is 00:21:07 baby oil she said that every they would oil up so much that was like a big thing for puff allegedly like you had to be oiled that every five minutes they were like just re-oiling because you want you to look like a shiny suit yeah cuz glistens and I guess it's the sexiness of baby oil on Listen like them shiny suits. He used to wear in the night. This is so say I guess so And then when we speak talking about the urine that you know She she talked about that and wanted a free cause because they'd asked her you know we Opened up our part our testimony or our opening statement the prosecutors talking about you know you alleging that there was a male escort that was made to pee or I'm sorry urinate on you.
Starting point is 00:21:50 You can say pee. Same thing. Urinate on you. Can you detail that? So she starts to detail that she says that at one point she was choking obvious reasons and they asked why didn't you just ask them to stop and when I say them she updated us and let us know. Who's the attorney?
Starting point is 00:22:04 Raleigh Freeman? Why wouldn't you just move out the way? That's what he asked the floor. Basically they just asked like, you know, at this, cause it didn't sound like she was being held against her will at that point, like physically. So they're like, well, why would you just, cause she says she laid down with her hands up a lot of times when that was happening because she didn't like it and it was a lot going on. And she said that not only would the escorts do it, allegedly Puff would join
Starting point is 00:22:25 in as well. And she said when it would get to a point where it was too much for her, sometimes he would tell the escorts, Puff would tell the escorts allegedly like, yo, all right, let's stop, let's chill. So they asked her like, why would you just tell them to stop yourself? And she said, I mean, I'm laying on the floor and allegedly intoxicated by all these things and it's two men standing over me. What am I going to do? So I just laid there. I mean waterboarded with pee. Yeah. And so the-
Starting point is 00:22:45 And the reason they ask that question is because they know the defense is going to ask that question, so they try to make sure that they ask questions that the defense asks to make it more comfortable. Yeah, but she broke the freak offs down in steps as well. She said that the first step there was like masturbation, and they would have to do masturbation. It would be her and the escort, and she would have to talk out loud and describe what she was seeing she would have to be very descriptive because because allegedly Puff would want to hear that she said he would be blindfolded right no not all the time because once they got more comfortable
Starting point is 00:23:13 with the escorts from what it seems like she's describing the blindfolds will come off and all that stuff I had to organize them better because I felt like yesterday I had a lot of information that I didn't get so I organized them better. Highlights, I made notes in the back of important points to get to in here. You can read these notes. Lauren is in the courtroom. That was a new notebook. Yeah, no I bought a second one yesterday. Yeah, that's crazy. So yeah, so that first step was the descriptive foreplay and then step two was the touching. Now step two, she alleges is that's when all the baby oil comes out. Step three is oral and she says that a lot of times she would rush to get to the oral
Starting point is 00:23:53 because she just wanted to get over with because she kept making a point of she didn't want to do this. She just was doing it because she was so in love and she said she didn't want him to go and do it with anybody else. Now step four was the actual intercourse where they would engage in sex and she said that sometimes Puff would just watch allegedly but then she said other times he might join in if they were really comfortable with an escort. Now you can't say that part.
Starting point is 00:24:16 That would look like her giving Puff fellatio and sorry and the other escort having sex with her at the same time. Now she did give us an update. I didn't know if I needed. She said that a lot of times after they would finish the escorts would have a happy ending and Puff would make her take that happy ending and rub it on his nipples and then they would engage in whatever they were going to do just Cassie and Puff alleged. So his man milk on Puff's nipples?
Starting point is 00:24:44 That's what Cassie is alleging. That Puff liked her to rub it on his chest and on his nipples. Jesus. So chocolate covered nipples with a semen drizzle. Yo shut up man. Glaze, we have to say glaze. Oh yeah, Diddy likes his nipples medium well with a semen glaze. Yeah she said that anytime that she was having intercourse during the free calls by herself
Starting point is 00:25:04 and Puff would just be allegedly listening or watching he would then ask her about it after and very he'd be very descriptive like he would ask her how did the D feel? Did she rub the semen in the nipples like a DJ scratches a record? Does she rub it in like lotion? Keep going keep going. She didn't really specify. Why you answering him? Right here clown. Look you said, she said she didn't want him to do it with anybody else. Is that because she didn't want anybody to endure any like the. Yo, K-pop fans. It's your boy, BOMHAN and I'm bringing you something epic.
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Starting point is 00:27:03 when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 1978, Roger Caron's first book was published, and he was unlike any first-time author Canada had ever seen. Roger Caron was 16 when first convicted.
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Starting point is 00:28:34 She was a decorated veteran, a Marine who saved her comrades, a hero. She was stoic, modest, tough, someone who inspired people. Everyone thought they knew her, until they didn't. I remember sitting on her couch and asking her, is this real? Is this real? Is this real? Is this real? I just couldn't wrap my head around what kind of person would do that to another person that was getting treatment, that was dying?
Starting point is 00:29:08 This is a story all about trust and about a woman named Sarah Kavanaugh. I've always been told I'm a really good listener, right? And I maximized that while I was lying. Listen to Deep Cover, The Truth About Sarah on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Things that she was doing or- The way that she put it- She was seeing a jealous girlfriend, like what is happening?
Starting point is 00:29:37 The way that she put it, she said it on a stand. I was a very jealous girlfriend when it came to him and other women. And she said, you know, this is this powerful rich man who she was so in love with. She felt vulnerable because he had shared the secret of these voyeisms and freak offs that he liked to do. She didn't want another woman coming in and sweeping up in her place. And a lot of times she alleges and we saw actual text messages they brought up where she tried to tell him she didn't want to do a freak off.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And he was like, Oh, okay, you're boring, you're predictable. I'm sorry. He said you're predictable, but it was giving the effect of I don't want him to think I'm boring. I don't want him to think that I'm not down. So I'm going to just do it. So you don't do it with somebody else.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Yes. Did he like, did he let the semen cool off? What else? Like his semen's warm? What else do we have? I don't know the answer to that, but I will say she mentioned that he sometimes liked the oil to be warm and they would pour wax on each other from the candles sometimes. You know what?
Starting point is 00:30:31 Allegedly. The first day you were in court you said, you know, everybody in the court and the judges and the attorneys, not the judge, the attorneys that were outside watching the press believe day one went to Diddy. So day two, what did they say, day two went to prosecution or Diddy as well? People believe that it went to Diddy, but I will argue different. I will argue that day two went to the prosecution because even if you didn't feel like they gave you all the evidence they needed, which she gave a lot, she said that they hired these escorts.
Starting point is 00:30:54 She said that they engaged in these sexual things with these escorts. She said Diddy got semen recipes. She said a lot yesterday that sets them up for the landing. They just haven't landed the plane yet. And I think that if anything, you walked away believing that this woman could have been taken advantage of. It's only day two, y'all. But they also said people were leaving during, that people were snapping and sleeping. Was that true as well?
Starting point is 00:31:15 People felt like they were, the prosecution was taking too long to get to the gut punch. That's how people felt. Because they spent so much time on their history, on why she didn't do this. They kept asking her a lot of the same questions about the drugs they were taking. But what I think that the prosecution was building is they were building character around this witness. So you have this pregnant woman that you're looking at and she was, y'all, she barely cried, right?
Starting point is 00:31:34 I'm wrapping up right now. And is she taking a stand today? She's taking a stand again today. Y'all do realize it's eight weeks. It's only a day two. I'm just asking because she's dead. And we already had semen on the nipples. We're gonna bring this back in the-
Starting point is 00:31:44 There's semen on the nipples. What was the family's reaction? What was her husband's reaction? What was the courtroom's reaction when they said he like the semen on the nipple? Let's talk about it. Yeah, we're gonna bring it back in the next hour cuz there's there's a lot more Well wrapping up the freak awesome and we're gonna go into she she watched we watched the video with Cassie Oh in court yesterday So that was another video. Did you watch the video of the of the beating in the hotel? Those videos may not get played played but we'll talk about that. Alright. Alright, when we come back we got front page news.
Starting point is 00:32:10 The Snoop will be joining us and we'll get back to Diddy and the nipples and all that in a little bit. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody it's DJ Envy Juslaris Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news Now last night NBA playoffs the Thunder beat the Nuggets 112 105 Pacers beat the Cavaliers 114 105 morning Morgan Well, good morning. Good morning. Can you hear me? Yes. All right. All right, y'all. Let's get back into it
Starting point is 00:32:39 So Democrats aren't the only ones raising concerns about this cutter jet So cutter is offering a $400 million jet to President Trump. GOP Senator Rand Paul, he is along the lines of President Trump. He's from Kentucky. He says Trump has no business accepting a gift of this magnitude. Let's take a listen to his comments. The constitution in article two talks about the president can't take emoluments or gifts from foreign leaders. And so there is a provision in the Constitution that says you can't do this.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I think it's not worth the appearance of impropriety. Whether it's improper or not, I don't think it's worth it. Speaking from the White House on Monday, Trump said turning down a free jumbo jet would be quote stupid. Now Trump will fly to Qatar for a state visit today. And the Arab nation is at the center of this controversy over this offer to give Trump this lavish jet. They're also expected to announce hundreds of billions of dollars in US investments. So Trump is like, I'll take the plane if y'all go ahead and invest in it.
Starting point is 00:33:39 But it's unconstitutional. You cannot take the plane. The US Constitution prohibits government officials from accepting gifts from any king, prince, or foreign state, full stop. So, you know, we gotta stop having this conversation like, you know, maybe he can, maybe he can't. No, it's actually just unlawful to do. Like he's not supposed to do it. It's unconstitutional.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Who's been, he hasn't done anything by the book, but you think this is gonna change it? I was just about to say, who gonna check him, boo? The American people should check him. unconstitutional. Who's been, he hasn't done anything by the book, but you think this is going to change it? I was just about to say who's going to check them boo? The American people should check them. The elected officials should check them because at the end of the day, that president is beholden to the constitution of the United States of America. If we're in a post-constitutional society, I can't even begin to tell you how screwed
Starting point is 00:34:20 we are. Yeah, but we see a lot of the things that he did. So if he didn't follow the constitution to follow the laws before, what what things we gonna do? Once again, if we're in a post constitutional society, I can't wait to tell you how screwed we are. Are we screwed? Okay, are you ready to be a slave?
Starting point is 00:34:35 Because you know, if we do if we if we just say an after Constitution, I mean, you're ready to be considered three fourths of a human again? No, no, why never was but no, because you said again, but no, I'm not ready. I'm three-fourths of a human again? Nope. No. Well, I never was, but no. Because you said it again. But no, I'm not ready. I'm not ready for none of this. And Rand Paul, you know, it's so funny. When I gave Don Quijote a day Monday, it was Republicans who I saw speaking out against
Starting point is 00:34:55 this way before Democrats. Laura Loomer, the Nikki Haley, the Rand Paul. This is against the US Constitution. It's not lawful. It prohibits government officials from accepting gifts. It's so plain. So look, can he the fact that Republicans actually said that it was wrong, could he fire them?
Starting point is 00:35:14 Like, could he fire them? These elected officials. I'm sure I'm sure he's not happy. I'm sure he's not happy with them speaking out against them. Absolutely. And hopefully they clock is clock that T switching gears to immigration a federal judge in Pennsylvania is now ruling that President Trump can in fact use the alien enemies act to deport alleged members of foreign terrorist organizations this would allow the government to remove members of
Starting point is 00:35:39 MS 13 or the Venezuelan gang trend a agua Which the administration has designated as a terrorist group. Now, despite this, the judge has said authorities must give immigrants at least 21 days notice before they're deported, which has also been a long-term argument regarding this administration and how they've been operating with deportations. 21 days is a lot for them. The ruling conflicts with findings
Starting point is 00:36:06 by several other judges who have also ruled that the president does not have the power to use the Alien Enemies Act to remove gang members. So again, to your point, Charlamagne, more stuff that's going to be stuck in the courts trying to figure out what's right, what's wrong. Well, you know what's right and what's wrong, but it's a matter of clocking that T and making sure that those who are operating in the wrong status are held accountable for that. Yeah. And nearly two dozen Democratic states attorneys generals are suing President Trump over attempts
Starting point is 00:36:36 to link some federal grants to immigration enforcement. This includes California Attorney General Rob Bonta, who says the lawsuit seek to stop the Trump administration from withholding transportation, homeland security, and emergency preparedness grants unless states enforce federal immigration laws. Let's take a listen to Attorney General Rob Bonta from California. We're suing President Trump for unlawfully imposing immigration enforcement requirements on billions of dollars in annual U.S. Department of Transportation and U.S. Department of Homeland Security grants.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Let's be clear, the president doesn't have the authority to coerce state and local governments into using their resources for immigration enforcement. This is a blatantly illegal attempt to bully states into enacting Trump's inhumane and illogical immigration agenda. So the loose, the two lawsuits were filed in a Rhode Island federal court on Tuesday that looked to block the Trump administration's efforts to force the states to cooperate with immigration enforcement on a federal level or not receive federal funds. Now the grants are for things like disaster relief,
Starting point is 00:37:45 cybersecurity and transportation. Now Bonta says, sometimes these lawsuits take time, but in many of the lawsuits filed against the president in the last 16 weeks, success has come quickly. Now this group of 20 states that joined the lawsuit also includes New Mexico, Minnesota, and of course, you guys, New York, where Letitia James is the AG. So these are things that I'm going to continue to keep you guys posted on. And that's your front page news. Follow me on socials at Morgan Media. And for more news coverage, follow at Black Information Network, download the free iHeart
Starting point is 00:38:15 radio app and visit us at BINnews.com. Thank you all very much. Thank you, Morgan. All right. Now when we come back, Snoop Dogg will be joining us. That's right. Uncle Snoop will be here. His new album, Is It a Crime? is out tomorrow. We're going to kick it with Snoop Dogg will be joining us. That's right. Uncle Snoop will be here His new album is it a crime is out tomorrow. We're gonna kick it with Snoop. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning
Starting point is 00:38:29 the Breakfast Club Morning everybody is DJ envy just hilarious Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building Yes indeed, Snoop Dogg What's up Snoop? What's up with y'all? The icon living man. How you feeling my man? Working hard and hardly working. Happy to be back in the big Apple.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Now with this album here Snoop. Is it a crime? Is it a crime? Yeah. I feel like listening to this album, I don't know why, but I feel like you have something to prove. Like you wanna prove to people that you can rap
Starting point is 00:39:01 and you get busy. Like, you know, listening to this album last time, I'm like, this ain't no just fun Snoop album. This is, I wanna show you guys I can spit, I can rap and you get busy like you know listening to this album last time I'm like this ain't no just fun Snoop album This is I want to show you guys I can spit I can rap too. You know, I'm a rapper so we're competitive So when you're not hearing or seeing then you get to you know feeling like maybe I need to try one more time Or get back into what I do. I'm an emcee and I love to rap I love to make music and people love my voice and they love when I make great records and when I don't make Great records people let me know that as well I love to make music and people love my voice and they love when I make great records and when I don't make great records
Starting point is 00:39:25 People let me know that as well So it I hear all of that and it makes me say to myself I should treat myself like a musician and not like a rapper Mmm, because if you're a musician you can make music until you die But when you're a rapper, they try to put a cap on you So I'm in the musician mind state of you know, whatever feels good to you must be good for you And when I make music sometimes it's good for you. What was Missionary to you?
Starting point is 00:39:49 Missionary was Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg getting together for the first time in 20 some years, allowing Dr. Dre to produce Snoop Dogg for the first time. And what I mean by produce, I mean by producing, like, say for instance I was an R&B singer and they'll present an R&B singer a song and say I need you to sing this song exactly like that. That's what Missionary was, songs being presented, spirits of Dr. Dre driving and leading and producing Snoop Dogg for what he thought was best for him at the time. The first records that we did together he was a producer, I was a rapper.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I would rap, spit, motion, feel. He would take that and create it and make it into what it was. This was the first time that I was not writing my own material, allowing them to take the lead. Because I believe in Dr. Dre and when he drives, I sit in the passenger seat. And that was a project that he drove, so I got back into my seat and let him drive. Do you think y'all created an impossible bar for yourselves with the chronic, with doggy style, with 2001? Absolutely. I don't think it's an impossible bar, I just think it's the times. You gotta understand when those records came out, rap wasn't popular.
Starting point is 00:40:57 So we wasn't fighting against 400 rappers that was coming out with our album every day. And the sound that we had was original and it was unique and it wasn't no mimic and a duplicate. So you had a chance to understand what real music sounded like. There's a cloud right now where it's a lot of music that sounds alike, a lot of artists that sounded alike. When I came up, it wasn't two rappers that sounded alike.
Starting point is 00:41:19 I can name five that sounded like right now. And you can too. It's not a bad thing, it's just you was able to clearly see and hear what was great right now You have to fight through so much to find out what's great So to me missionary is great when you catch up to it If you don't catch up to it, then it ain't mythic You don't forget how much respect that you have for for big right listen to this album And I see you taking clips and bits of here
Starting point is 00:41:44 And it makes me realize like damn snoop really respected that man's craft and really loved him as an artist But if you knew when he was alive he respected my crap. I'm sitting in the crib dreaming So it's mutual like this now is nothing wrong with showing love. But back then it was frowned upon if I said I got love for him and he got love for me. But we didn't care. We both went on a limb and allow people to know that I got love for this man. And I have no problem with saying that standing on that. It is who I am and I'm glad that I was able to do that.
Starting point is 00:42:23 So it's documented this testimony. It is what it is. You can't glad that I was able to do that. So it's documented, it's testimony, it is what it is. You can't fix that and you can't change that. Me and OG snooped with Sexy. I knew you was gonna go to that record. Yes. I just knew you was gonna go to that particular record. Yes. You should get everything, go all the way to song 18.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I knew y'all talking about this old **** man. I went, look, I went jump in the ****. Look at that, the record is called Me and OG. Damn. But I love it though, I love it, I love it. But you know, I wanna know jump in. Damn, roll this shit. Look at that. The record is called Me and OG. Bam. But I love it though. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:42:48 But I, you know, I want to know how did that come about? Like, how was the vibe in the studio with Sexy? Now look, Sexy Red is the homegirl. I love her to death. Yeah. Now how we got together was she was coming to LA and needed a studio. And my studio was close, presented me to LAX. Offered her the user studio.
Starting point is 00:43:05 When she come over, you know, my family, we don't do nothing but hospitably make you feel at home. It smells good. We got blankets, food. We got game room. So we just giving her the blue carpet treatment and she just loving every minute of it. So I'm like, Red, let's go in the studio. We in the studio and we just talking and she asking me questions about my career.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Like, you know, you tight, how you be doing this and that? We get past that, I'm like, what's up with the record? She like, you wanna do one? I'm like, hell yeah. Put on the track, she ain't feeling it. I'm like, damn, so I gotta call all my homies that make the kind of music that she like. So one of the homies sent some beats, she listening. When she hear the beats she like, she'd grab her phone, she'd kick them first
Starting point is 00:43:46 bars off and then she'd say it. I'm like, oh, she really get out. She'd go in the booth, she'd spit it, I'd spit mine, we'd listen to it, and we vibing and then she'd come back to the studio like a week straight. And we just bonding like uncle and niece. It's just a relationship that we building. So it was one of those things where it was a moment that we captured just because I was being hospitable to let her use the studio and then the record came about because we just naturally connected with each other. My spirit is open, I've always been like that.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I don't frown upon the new MCs, the new girls. I like, I open up to everybody. If I don't like your thing, you'll never know it publicly. On West Up, you say, why should I retire? Why the fuck should I retire, homie? It's our time. West Up. Do you feel like the West Coast is having
Starting point is 00:44:28 some type of renaissance right now? Don't you? Yes. Yeah, I mean, I feel like, to me, the West ain't never left, but I've always been a person that that fucked with the West. Are you kidding me? There's never been this many West Coast records on radio ever. At one time.
Starting point is 00:44:38 And trust me, I am- It's not a lot now. It's just kindred. No, but that's just the point. When Dre, Snoop, Tupac, all of us was in our heyday, it wasn't spinning like that. Because it still was some hesitation on, we ain't **** them, them **** ain't here, we ain't playing it. Like y'all know the rule, when they leave, turn that **** off. Now, it's like it stays on. So I'm like, I can't believe they actually really planned. This is what I really love about New York radio. When y'all started opening up to the south,
Starting point is 00:45:04 I don't really care about us, because we was going to make ours. radio when y'all started opening up to the South I don't really care about us because we was gonna make ours when y'all opened up to the South that made me know that the hip-hop game was expanding because y'all used to sh** on them bad. Bad. And we they cousins so we used to fill it second half of it so when y'all allowed them to come in and get they expression off that's when I was like it's some great things happening in New York because it gives the game a chance to expand and not be trapped. Now look at what hip hop is now, it's global.
Starting point is 00:45:28 So even at the peak in the 90s, right? I don't even want to call it the peak because y'all been going for a long time, but when it was the Kronix and the Doggy Style and Pop was out, this moment right now feels bigger than that? No, because we had a bunch of us. Right now it's like K. Dot Mm-hmm standing up top at that time
Starting point is 00:45:49 We was all on the mountaintop like you got cube 40 show dog pound. This is just was just some West Coast every heavyweight Right now Kendrick is the heavyweight so it's like that's why I'm coming back So I can get his back to let him know that the OG stand with him and got his back. You understand what I'm saying? That's what we do as musicians. We put our flags down and we let people know that we do make great music representing our coast. But it's not a coastal thing because we make music for everybody. Did y'all ever talk after he dropped Wacked Out Mirrors? For what? I mean just to have a conversation. What's there to talk about? That's my little
Starting point is 00:46:25 homie, he spoke his mind. He said what he said like and like I said earlier like as an older guy sometimes we don't have radar on what we doing. Just so y'all can know the scenario of what happened. It was a repost from Jen and Juice that Who Kid sent me. Damn Who Kid. But it had that song in it. I don't even know what the f*** the song was. I just reposted on my s*** because it's my brand. Then when I get wind of it, naturally I reach out to Nephew, let him know, my bad, I didn't mean that. And naturally he responded to where he responded. Well, we family. Like, you can't have a spat or a misunderstanding with your brother, your cousin.
Starting point is 00:46:58 That's how it's supposed to be. It ain't supposed to get no bigger than that. It's supposed to be understood. What's understood don't need to be explained. See, a big dog can get checked if it's by the right person, if he got the right intellect. It's nothing wrong with being properly put in place if you out of place. That's what's wrong with half of us that we feel like the young generation can't tell us nothing.
Starting point is 00:47:17 You used to be young too. And you had a mind and you had a spirit and sometimes the young generation can teach the old dog a new trick, if he willing't a lesson We're still kicking it with Snoop now on the album You talk about Nate Dogg and Nate Dogg's catalog So break that down and what are you doing with that if you if you own it?
Starting point is 00:47:33 I said I got Nate Dogg catalog in the pipeline. Mm-hmm. Yeah Warren G told you to get what's mine I got a dog out of my life. Mm-hmm So basically what that is it's more about lining up business for us to be able to own our thing. Nate Doggs' estate is with his family, Warren G's is with his, mine is with mine. It's just a line of ownership. You understand what I'm saying? Teaching ownership through lyrics because a lot of us make records, get our perfection up and then we sell it and then we think we did a good thing. You know that song is called Sophisticated Crippin'
Starting point is 00:48:06 and you do say Warren G. said, get what's mine. What does Warren G. mean to you? Warren G. probably the best friend that I got that only me and him understand each other. Like the passion that Warren G. has for me and had for me as an artist in the beginning. It's like Don King, like a promoter who promotes a fighter, like believing in Snoop before anybody else and then
Starting point is 00:48:28 seeing Snoop do what he does and still having that believability and watching our friendship growing to like grown men and fathers and losing people in our lives. You know, when he lost his mom I didn't understand what I was there for. Then when I lost my mom I didn't understand he was there for me. There's been certain situations where we have become super close behind tragedy and behind love. And then at the same time, you gotta look at this music industry. This music industry is trifling. It's crazy. You think about how he brought me to Death Row, but Death Row didn't sign him.
Starting point is 00:49:04 That's crazy. So there's a lot of animosity and frustration and anger in him off of that. Not at me, but at the situation at home. And as an artist, if you're pushing for me, you want for me to do this. But as an artist, I'm feeling f**ked up because they left my homeboy. So it's like these are things that we never had a chance to like fully get an understanding on, because it's pain. It's like the pain I had to deal with
Starting point is 00:49:30 when I went through whatever I went through. Sometimes as men we know how to express that, but as a friend, we're always there for each other. So if I can make that as the point, our relationship is like that, where it's more getting into life rather than music and fun. I saw something recently, he was doing an interview, and he said he felt snubbed during the Super Bowl performance.
Starting point is 00:49:51 But then he also said, I just wanted to be there while they was making Missionary. He was like, I don't want no money and nothing like that. I just wanted to kick it with my people. Well, you know how it is when you're in the studio. But here's what I want to say. His relationship with Dr. Dre is his relationship. His relationship with me is our relationship. When I'm relationship with Dr. Dre is his relationship. His relationship
Starting point is 00:50:05 with me is our relationship. When I'm working with Dr. Dre, I don't bring nobody with me. I bring myself because I'm not responsible for nobody but me. Now if Dr. Dre wants people to come, that's his job to say I need this person and that person. I've always been that way when it's time for me to do a job. I don't like bringing **** to the job that I'm going to be accountable for. All I could be accountable for is me. So when I come to work, I show up by myself. I work with Pharrell by myself, Dr. Dre by myself. Sir, I don't bring that with me
Starting point is 00:50:34 because I don't know what you gonna do or how you gonna act. So when I'm going to work, when you go to work, who you bring with you? Just my brother. Who you come to work with? Myself. God.
Starting point is 00:50:44 See what I'm saying? So you got to go, I'm finna go to work right now, y'all come on. How much work you gonna really get done? You know I wanted to ask, as an OG, back then dealing with the press and public was easier, right? It was magazines, Channel 11 news is gone. But now you got social media. So when you look at all the stuff that you do, whether it's the football league that got so many kids in the NFL and the give backs and all the things that we can go on and on and on and then you hear
Starting point is 00:51:12 people's opinions on when you did the crypto ball. Does that bother you? No, I call it 30 for 30. Let me explain that to you. I DJed at the crypto ball for what, 30 minutes. Made a whole bunch of money, made a lot of relationships to help out the inner city and the community and teach financial literacy and crypto
Starting point is 00:51:28 in a space that it don't exist. That's 30 minutes. 30 years, Snoop Dogg been doing great things for the community, building, showing up, standing up for the people, making it happen, being all I can be. But which one is it? 30 for 30, 30 minutes or 30 years?
Starting point is 00:51:43 Oh, is it a crime? Nope. I hated that, man. I ain't? Oh, I hate that man hang I hate it. I know I love how my people defended me, but I didn't give y'all no ammunition meaning that I never said nothing So it was kind of becoming like am I y'all keep riding on dog and I ain't gonna had it Y'all can't damn he ain't saying that so it's like I can't fight for another man. It ain't gonna fight for itself So is it a crime? I'm fighting And then they kept taking the video saying well he said this about Trump back then but then he DJ What do you it's not you didn't endorse nobody you just DJ the party
Starting point is 00:52:16 But those are bots and then this entertainers who was getting behind and then trying to make something out of it Which to me is like most of those guys they live off of the internet and live off of that energy. The things that I do, even if I would have done it for him and hung out with him and took a picture with him, can't none of you motherfuckers tell me what I can and can't do. But I'm not a politician. I don't represent the Republican party, I don't represent the Democratic party. I represent the motherfuckin' gangsta party.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Period point blank. And G-shit, we don't explain shit. So that's why I didn't explain so that's why I didn't explain that's why I didn't go into detail trying to counsel me and say he is sellout even on my Instagram page like after that I would post and I see my oh yeah sell out you know what I would do jump right in a mother with a video I'm just a fan man. I didn't really I'm sorry man snoop. I just yeah got me I jump all off in your talk to you face to face don't hit me on no here sell out on Instagram or this and that cuz I'm really engaging like that some people were saying that that was that was Trump cashing in a favor because Harry oh got
Starting point is 00:53:21 pardoned and you instrumental in his Harry oh getting pardoned and I mean I don't know if that's true that that's what the internet rumor was. The internet loved sparking things but Trump did get Harry O out that is a fact that is a fact and I performed at the crypto ball for David Sacks who's been a friend of mine for 15 years who was head of the crypto currency situation that was put into that position so it was more or less a relationship that I had with Charlamagne and Charlemagne was put in the office by the president but Charlemagne's been my friend for 15
Starting point is 00:53:51 years and me and Charlemagne been getting money together and we working this crypto thing that nobody know about and then Charlemagne say, dog I got this crypto play that's gonna bring some money back to the hood. Cool, I'm with you, you helping the hood out. Not knowing that the hood gonna talk. Like, what does that part work when I'm trying to help y'all with y'all talking? That's why a lot of times when people make it, they don't come back for that reason. That's the truth. Y'all love you got so many business ventures y'all. Like, what made you say like, I want
Starting point is 00:54:21 a hockey team. I want to own a hockey team. It's different, Jess Jess you got to think out of the box they ain't gonna let us own no football team or no basketball team so I got to go in an area where I could possibly actually own a lot of it you know the people that own teams in those worlds that I just said they don't own 50% of them they own pieces little small increments I'm trying to get 60 70% percent. So that way it's really a ownership, you know what I'm saying? And I looked at that sport as, wow, that's a great sport that nobody's paying attention to that has not been brought to that level. There's no star power there
Starting point is 00:54:56 yet. I've always thought about businesses and places that haven't been affected yet. I don't want to be in a lane where it's already working. We want to go somewhere where it ain't working so we can create a whole new Avenue And I merge hard too soon So let me tell you about it so the album cover right is it a crime if you notice you see my wife in the front Right. Mm-hmm. So for my whole career, she had my back and this is the first time I put her on the front This album cover so everybody can know that she got my back she would me she's standing by my side Now she get the sign and look at it. She gangbanging album cover so everybody can know that she got my back she with me she's standing by my side and now she get to sign and look at her she gangbanging that's what i love it how much she charges yeah i was gonna say that how much she charges oh half that's why she got her half
Starting point is 00:55:35 you know what i'm saying now also on the album that comes out tomorrow you say one of your biggest regrets was not squashing things with pock. Yeah. That still sits with you to this day? It do. It do because he was really my friend. And sometimes my be talking like they don't really know. But that was my friend and he was like dear to me. And anytime you got a relationship with somebody and it's like it's working, it's going good,
Starting point is 00:55:59 and then y'all get an argument, then you die. Like come on, man. I didn't even get a chance, whether I was wrong or right, just to be able to get that follow-up. But the beautiful part was his mother was still here, and I got a chance to hug her and talk to her and get the approval from her, which was his spirit, because he was always connected to her.
Starting point is 00:56:22 So that gave me half clarity on where I was with him because his mother always had love Was was a the record my friend was that hard to write? Oh my god Denon Porter sent me that record and when he said it to me he was crying on the track You could hear him crying like before he do his hook certain pieces and it took me like six days to even to his hook, certain pieces. And it took me like six days to even write my first couple of lines. Then when I wrote them, I went in the booth and I was like, my spirit was like sad.
Starting point is 00:56:51 I was like, I can't be crying singing this song. So then I got my spirit right, put the lyrics down, then I sent it to Denon and he tells me, and I didn't tell you but I lost my brother too, after you. And I'm like, damn. It just was like the spirit of both of us losing our brothers, me writing this lyrics to this song.
Starting point is 00:57:12 And then it was the point of listening to this song. I swear to God, man, I cried. Like the first 20 times I heard this song, I just got past the point now where I could listen to it and watch it without crying But if the wrong people in the room, I'm gonna cry. You think you'd be able to perform it? No way. Hey It's that deep and I never thought I would make a song like that that would make me cry You crying?
Starting point is 00:57:39 Open like that. Pause, pause, you know you're using that one. You're not going to get me. Pause. When you lost people like that that close to you, do you ever feel alone? Because you snoop, right? You walk in the room, you're an icon, people idolize you. But when you're in a room full of people, do you still feel alone? Because you don't have those people that that close to you? You know what music sparks that. Certain songs like if these three words come on, I'm gone. I'm gone. Because it's the last time that they heard him say your mother and your brother, it's
Starting point is 00:58:16 like, why is you, come on Stevie, you hurting me right now. Like that record right there when it comes on, I don't care where I'm at. I could be in a gang meeting. A real serious gang meeting. right now. Like that record right there when it comes on, I don't care where I'm at. I could be in a gang meeting. A real serious gang meeting. And they'd be like, yeah, we finna go on a mission. And man, time out, man. It's one of their records, man. Has anybody ever tried to out smoke you? Yes. And them **** died. Like, you know how many people that they tried to out smoke you? Yes! And them a** died! Like you know how many people that tried to out smoke me? It was just one girl that wanted to smoke with me
Starting point is 00:58:52 and we had like a guitar right over there so she smoked with me. All of a sudden she fall BAM! And her wig is stuck in the guitar And a** like help her out! We like no, leave her a** over there she wanted to smoke with the dog Like I get challenged all the time, and my thing is, you know, do your thing.
Starting point is 00:59:08 You f*** the world up one good time. When you did that commercial, or you put on your story, your Instagram, that you will stop smoking weed. You thought I had cancer, s***. You just thought the word s***. Everybody was like, everybody was like, I'm not smoking no more. Snoop's quitting, I'm quitting.
Starting point is 00:59:23 I see so many people say they were quitting. Mick Mill was out there like, I'm not smoking no more. Snoop's quitting, I'm quitting. Like, I see so many people say they were quitting. Meek Mill was out there like, I'm quitting too. Everybody was quitting. Everybody. But Quintin LeRae quit. Everybody quit. See, that let you know the dog has a strong absolutely. You do right, they'll follow.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Did they all give you the middle finger after? Like, money I make and it was like and I didn't tell them so when they finally got the word is oh my god we thought we was gonna lose the business I'm like does it take a lot are you no I mean the weed I smoke get me there quick you know I'm saying I smoke death row weed it's available in stores everywhere you know I mean the weed I smoke get me there quick. You know I'm saying I smoke death row weed It's available in stores everywhere You know fat Joe I saw fat Joe saying um cuz he got the new part with him in Jadakiss And he said Kendrick Lamar surpassed you in two part is the most dominant rappers of the West Coast
Starting point is 01:00:17 What do you thought he can't say that he not from the West Coast? Hmm? Yeah, and that's no disrespect. That's just facts That's like me coming out here saying that Mm-hmm. Yeah, and that's no disrespect. That's just facts. That's like me coming out here saying that Jay-z ain't the king a whoop whoop whoop. I don't know who run New York This y'alls, but I do know when it comes to the West Coast everybody riding Kendrick hands down And it's been that way so he is the king. Mm-hmm. That is no doubt He is the king but as far as what fat Joe said You would have to ask the whole West coast and the west coast would have to give You because you got certain people from the bay who ride with the bay
Starting point is 01:00:48 We love what we love but you can't say that if you're not from that. Yeah saying surpassed. That's a strong strong Well, yeah, Kendrick wanted in ones don't get me wrong But you know y'all have stood the test of time even you know, the pockets are mortal. We're talking about 30 Even you know the pockets are mortal. We're talking about 30 Yeah, not in the middle or down there it ain't never been a time while I was down there I've always been up to even when my records were absolutely do you think you've already fulfilled your purpose? Are you still searching for what God really put you? I know what I'm here for I put a gospel album on April 27th from the spirit of my mother on death row records So I yo keep up is it's your boy bomb hun and I'm bringing you something epic gospel album on April 27th from Spirit of My Mother on Death Row Records.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Yo K-Pop fans, it's your boy Bomhan and I'm bringing you something epic. Introducing the K-Factor, the podcast that takes you straight into the heart of K-Pop. We're talking music reviews, exclusive interviews, and deep dives into the industry like never before. From producers and choreographers to idols and trainees, we're bringing you the real stories behind the music that you love. And yeah, we're keeping it 100 discussing everything from comebacks and concepts to the mental health side of the business because K-pop isn't just a genre, it's a whole world and we're exploring every corner of it. And here's the best part, fans get to call in, drop opinions, and even join us live at events.
Starting point is 01:02:08 You never know where we might pop up next. So listen to the K Factor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This isn't just a podcast, it's a movement. Are you ready? Let's go. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian, Dan Flores, and brought to you by
Starting point is 01:02:36 Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and bestselling author and meat eater founder Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and
Starting point is 01:03:11 come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and flurries on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 1978, Roger Caron's first book was published, and he was unlike any first-time author Canada had ever seen. Roger Caron was 16 when first convicted.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Had spent 24 of those years in jail. 12 years in solitary. He went from an ex-con to a literary darling almost overnight. He went from an ex-con to a literary darling almost overnight. He was instantly a celebrity. He was an adrenaline junkie and he was the star of the show. Go-Boy is the gritty true story of how one man fought his way out of some of the darkest places imaginable.
Starting point is 01:03:59 I had a knife go in my stomach, puncture my screen, break my ribs, I had my feps all in my hands. Only to find himself back where he started. Rodger's saying this, I've never hurt anybody but myself. And I said, oh, you're so wrong. You're so wrong on that one, Rod. From Campside Media and iHeart Podcasts, listen to GO! BOY! on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. She was a decorated veteran, a Marine who saved her comrades, a hero. She was stoic, modest, tough,
Starting point is 01:04:39 someone who inspired people. Everyone thought they knew her, until they didn't. I remember sitting on her couch and asking her, is this real? Is this real? Is this real? Is this real? I just couldn't wrap my head around what kind of person would do that to another person
Starting point is 01:04:59 that was getting treatment, that was, you know, dying. This is a story all about trust and about a woman named Sarah Kavanaugh. I've always been told I'm a really good listener, right? And I maximized that while I was lying. Listen to deep cover, The Truth About Sarah on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So I know that they put this kind of pressure on the ones that can handle it the most. I know what my purpose is. I know why so many people love me and magnate to me so I do the right things and try to
Starting point is 01:05:50 stay on the right side. You know, I do wrong every once in a while. That's part of life. But I try to do more right and try to be an example of what you're supposed to be. Is there a moment you wish you could relive? Not to change it, but just to feel it more deeply. Falling in love with my wife for the first time. That was a beautiful moment right there, man.
Starting point is 01:06:10 That butterflies in my stomach and all kind of stuff, like just that pure feeling of that, going back to that. Because after you have so much success, you forget about what regular stuff feel like. That was special, man, just thinking, like, man, I'm going gonna get to do it to her Do you post everything yourself snoop? Oh, yeah, that's me all day long. I'm a machine 24 7 They didn't run and taught me Instagram see that's what happened a lot of those platforms I don't really know how to work them an Instagram when they taught me that in my mind
Starting point is 01:06:55 I said I don't have a network. I don't have a TV show This is gonna be my whole motherfucking network in my TV show I'm gonna give you every piece of me that you wouldn't imagine. I'm gonna make you laugh cry Put music on there just if I was a TV network, what the fuck would my TV network look like? It would look like my Instagram channel Unexpected but it's some entertaining When you posted me with that little ass ponytail even when you page I ain't feel you that point again. Yeah, me up there. Damn, I'm just like, I grew my hair and everything by then. My hair had grown and all that. I have bad hair days too, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:07:32 It's okay, don't worry about it. Look, long as you're real enough to deal with it, that's where it is. Period. I'm the one that posted it first, but you waited till my hair grew a little bit and then reminded me what I had. That's what I said. Well, let's get into it, join off the album. I want to hear, is it a crime? Charlamagne wants to hear... You want my all.
Starting point is 01:07:51 You know what I love? That everybody wants to hear something different. I got a hit. That's right. Let's get into it now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. This album's out tomorrow. I salute the Stoop for joining us. Is it a crime?
Starting point is 01:08:03 Always a pleasure talking to Snoop Dogg, man. Absolutely. Snoop Dogg is an icon living. Yes. He's like a walking memorial. As far as hip hop is concerned, is he the biggest hip hop artist ever? Most recognizable?
Starting point is 01:08:15 Most famous? Yeah, most famous, I should say, yeah. People argue that. Probably. When you say walking memorial, I remember, Shalom, you can't say that, because you said it about Usher, and he was like, that's kind of like saying I'm dead. You cannot say that, a walking memorial.
Starting point is 01:08:27 I just think we gotta recognize our legends while they're here, because in 20 years, 50 years, these people are gonna be like mythical figures. That's how I be feeling when I hear stories about Biggie and Pac, and you hear about Angie Martinez and Sway, and stories about these conversations about Biggie and Pac, you're like, dang, you met Biggie and Pac? Like that's them now.
Starting point is 01:08:45 So say legend, don't say memorial until they pass away. I feel like legend ain't strong enough for some of these guys. Cause they throwing in their, people throw it around too loosely. Yeah, like I like, like Snoop is an icon living to me. He's definitely an icon. Walking memorial might be a bit much.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Yeah, he's like a zombie. What are you talking about? Yeah, I mean, yeah, famous, yeah, Snoop gotta be the most famous rapper. Yeah, I think he is. The mascot of the Olympics. Everybody famous. Yeah, I think he is. Yeah. The mascot of the Olympics. Everybody knows him.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Yeah, I think so. Anyway, let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren becoming a straight face. Tell her. She gets into somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details. I know a girl that knows a little bit about everything. She be having the latest on this.
Starting point is 01:09:21 She say I'm the biggest. The latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes she have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest. On The Breakfast Club. Talk to me. So there is an update in the Tory Lane's stabbing situation. So I don't have an update on his health, but I do have an update on the attacker, the alleged
Starting point is 01:09:42 attacker. So the person that is alleged to have stabbed Tory Lanez is a man who was serving a life sentence for a murder charge. And according to reports, this was not his first violent incident behind bars. The California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation Center told TMZ that Tory Lanez was allegedly attacked
Starting point is 01:10:02 by a fellow inmate named Santino Cascio. This happened at 720 a.m. Monday morning in a housing unit at California Correctional Institution, CCI, which is where Torrey is being housed. And from all reports, they said that prison staff responded immediately. I told you guys that I found out that after they responded and they were trying to help him, he was airlifted to the hospital where they found out that he was stabbed 14 times um what's his name again his name is sentino casio guess what race it is what i tell you you mexican let me tell you i told you all when there is a stabbing multiple times and you have been stabbed over five times multiple times and you have been stabbed over five times in jail. In prison it is a Mexican. Okay let's tell the whole story. Tory Lane's DM Jess hilarious singing. Jess told Chris
Starting point is 01:10:53 and Chris called one of his cousins. You stop that. Do not ever try to put that on my husband. Oh and no he's not for Mexican so this is not his cousin. Oh he he's black. He's why we throw that your way. I don't know. Well, uh, Casio no relation to your Chris. No, no, no, um, has been placed in a restrictive housing pen, pending investigation because police are looking into this. Um, and he was sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole for second degree murder, first degree attempted murder, personal use of a dangerous or deadly weapon and inflicting great bodily injury. So he ain't going nowhere. And didn't he do this before?
Starting point is 01:11:29 He, yeah, he, yes. Well, yes, he, he did a couple things. That's why they shouldn't have a general population. Because if I'm doing how many, how much time Tori got? Nineteen years, something like that. Yeah, like 19 years. You can't have me around these people that's doing life and don't got nothing else to live for.
Starting point is 01:11:43 They just could be jealous, envious, hateful. Like, but I'm sure he had the option to stay in and protect the custody pc and he didn't want to the fact that the thing that Jess is talking about is there was a point in prison where Cascio was sentenced to an additional six years for assaulting a prisoner with a death deadly weapon yeah so yeah crazy sound like he should have been deported a long time ago exactly well we don't know El Salvador. Yeah, well. Even if this ass is here legally, like that. Like he might be legal here, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:12:09 He might stand people up like that. He might be legal, but if he's legal, where you gonna send him? You know, though, long before the deportation, I used to always say there should be a world star island for certain people. Like certain people, you can't, you just gotta take them, you ship them off, yes, man.
Starting point is 01:12:23 I've been saying this for years. Tory Lane. It ain't got nothing to do it race ethnicity is about behavior. Yeah, okay To relate his legal team after you following this happening They're now holding a press conference a press conference will take place today The 14th at 10 a.m For all press and he said that they have some new Esculpatory evidence that will talk about how his justice was violated in the case that he's cranked up for the McDeSign case and Right now what that means? What's that word you just said? Evidence that is new findings that they found that uh that that show like that bring light on something
Starting point is 01:13:00 You're like uncovering something. They basically are saying that they have new you know, they've been fighting for his uh Oh, it says show are declared that someone is not guilty of wrongdoing They have they're bringing light to the fact that they're saying that he is innocent which they've been saying But they're saying that they have new evidence now or new things that they want to Reveal and right now more than ever because of what just happened to him It's important that they reveal it because they need to get him home. Okay, so that's uh, you know I did ask for update on his health So hopefully we'll have that, you know, just checking in on him seeing how he's doing.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Yeah. They gonna give us Diddy? I don't have the time now. I got to bring it back in the next hour. You want Diddy so bad. Yes. You ain't gonna give us Diddy. You're talking about them semen recipes. You want to hit more of them. Yeah. Damn. What else did he put that glaze? That's what you want to. You walking right into it. I just wanted to hear the stories. That's all. I got some more stories. When we come back, Cassie watched the video of her being attacked by Puff in the open courtroom and she told us all about what led up to that. And for the first time, I think we had a bit more context
Starting point is 01:13:54 from her point of view anyway of what went down. I need to go back and listen to what was the Biggie record when he said, sex with me while you man masturbate. Diddy got an ad lib right after Biggie says that and I need to hear what Diddy says. Geez. It's an ad lib right after Biggie says that and I need to hit with did He says Adeline right after big he says that I need to hit with That's not no, it's not nasty boy sexy miss it that one more chance
Starting point is 01:14:16 Sex to me while your man masturbate You couldn't wait I'm trying to find it sex and me while you're mad You know you did exactly what Charles Buckley did when he saw Russell Westbrook walking there with no shirt on he said whoa Yes, we do do. That's the Breakfast Local. Oh my god. You're checking out the Breakfast Club. Your execution on the Donkey of the Day is something to behold. Is it a read?
Starting point is 01:15:13 Is it a read? He gave me Donkey of the Day and I deserve it. You can even know it. Well you need to tell them. I am! But you have the voice. Tell them. Tell them.
Starting point is 01:15:22 It's time for Donkey of the Day. It's a read, but you're so good at it. Tell them. It's time for Donkey of the Day. It's a read, but you're so good at it. He's trying to be a fake ass Charlamagne. He only wants Charlamagne to go. Charlamagne to go. Oh. Damn, Charlamagne.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Who you give a Dusty of the Day to in the end? Well, sexy red, Donkey of the Day for Wednesday, May 14th, goes to a 34-year-old woman from Mississippi named Jessie, let me see, Jessinia, Jessinia Faye Ezell. Let me tell you something man I don't know what world we live in anymore okay stop thinking you know people because you think you know but you have no idea. I was born in 1978 personally I believe after 1990 God stopped making humans okay he stopped making humans he sold the patent it's his product but not his recipe because
Starting point is 01:16:04 these people out here look like us but they not like us. Okay. See, Jusinia went into a Dollar General with a gun. Very low hanging fruit. Okay. If you're going to take a penitentiary chance don't do it at Dollar General. Okay. I would rather you not do it at all. I would rather you not walk into any store with a gun but definitely not Dollar General. In fact if your brain says I should go rob this Dollar General you should immediately change your thoughts to I should go in this Dollar General and fill out a job application. Okay one of the reasons it's stupid to rob a Dollar General is because you never know how much cash a Dollar General has on hand at any given time. So you might fool around and get 20 years for
Starting point is 01:16:44 $20. The money in dollar general fluctuates constantly based on sales, expenses, deposits, withdrawals. It's just not smart to do. Not smart to rob any place, but definitely not a dollar general. Now, Jacinia entered the store with a firearm and demanded money. Then she got into an altercation with an employee before leaving the scene with an undisclosed amount of money. Dear Dollar General employee, Dollar General not dying for you. Okay, the only way you should end up in a fight with someone who walks in any store
Starting point is 01:17:17 with a gun to rob it is if your life is being threatened. If you're fighting for your life, I completely understand. Other than that, get the hell out the way and go hide behind the Doritos. Now, I'm not giving you donkey because you robbed the Dollar General, Jusinia. I could, okay? But there is more to this story. See, officers came to the store to investigate and after they came to investigate, Jusinia did something no criminal should ever do and that's return to the scene of the crime. What did she return to the scene of the crime for? Would you like to know? What do you think she returned to the scene of the crime for? Huh? What'd you think? I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Because she dropped her cell phone. I repeat, officers said they were at the store investigating when Jasenia Ezell returned to the scene and asked about a cell phone she dropped during the robbery. Is it crack? It's got to be crack! Okay, Ezell you got the right last name because you must be a crackhead. Ice Cube, if you look in the cast, a new crackhead named Ezell and last Friday we have found your person. RIP AJ Johnson. Okay, you just robbed the Dollar General at gunpoint, Jusinia, and you came back to the store while police was investigating the ask about a cell phone you dropped during a robbery?
Starting point is 01:18:33 Let me tell you something, even if you're not smoking the fried cocaine that's normal from our era, you are absolutely addicted to this new drug. The biggest drug on the market, by the way, and that's your smartphone. Once again, smartphones making dumb people. We love these devices so much. We treat them like they are the 79th organ in our body. We treat them like they are our hearts, our lungs, our livers, our kidneys. We are addicted to these devices.
Starting point is 01:18:57 No doctor has universally diagnosed us with phone addiction, but it's obvious. Okay, all of us exhibit behaviors and symptoms that suggest a strong dependency on these smartphones and this right here is just the latest example. Some donkey today's just sell themselves please give Jusinia Ezell the sweet sounds of the Hamilton's. Of the day, you are the doggy Of the day, yee haw You wanna play a game? We think we gotta figure it out We can play a game You think we gotta figure it out?
Starting point is 01:19:39 Play a game, X and a first Okay, well let's play a game of Guess What Race is? Okay, well let's play a game of guess what? Yes, just in a easel okay from Mississippi all right with the Robber dollar general Yes, got into a fight with an employee But then left with an undisclosed amount of money But came back to the scene of the crime while police were investigating because she dropped her cell phone DJ envy Yes, what right? black damn
Starting point is 01:20:02 Guess what race she is! Black. Damn. Damn, damn, damn. I don't like how you said that so quickly. Why you think that gotta be one of us? Just a hunch. Just a hunch? Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Just a hunch. Okay. Jess Hilarious, Jusena Ezell from Mississippi walked into a Dollar General to rob it, got into a fight with one of the employees, but were left with an undisclosed amount of money money but came back to the scene of the crime while police were investigating because she dropped her cell phone. Chess hilarious.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Guess what race she is. I'm gonna say black too for one. White. Ezell is her last name. Okay, okay. Two, I robbed many dollar generals. Not at gunpoint. No, not at gunpoint. No, I robbed many Dollar Generals. Not at gunpoint. No, not at gunpoint.
Starting point is 01:20:46 No, Judge, we don't know. But I've definitely robbed many of them and I've gotten into altercations with cashiers as well. Because you were stealing something and they're trying to stop you. Like it's theirs and it's not. Since I can steal some stuff for you too, chill. But why Dollar General? Why not?
Starting point is 01:21:03 Because it's easy. Everything is easy. But it's only a dollar. I told you me and... I was broke Envy. Sorry. I wasn't out hit like you since I was 10. I had to fend for myself a lot. So me and Asher used to steal.
Starting point is 01:21:16 I want Jess Elias and DJ Envy to know that they are both absolutely positively wrong. You know what? Okay? I was wrong. I'm going off experience. He just judging black people because he not black. That's right, so he Dominican. Jesenia is not black. What is she?
Starting point is 01:21:33 She's my girl. See, it's a difference. It's a difference and until y'all learn the difference, y'all will continue to make that mistake. Okay? Okay. Okay. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:21:43 Yes. But why she went back in for the phone one? She's in the police? The other just skating. You gotta catch me. Why do we keep having this all the time? Well, she probably thought that they was there for something else. Dude, shut up. Yeah. Honestly, she probably thought the cops was there for something else and came back and just yeah, she wasn't thinking. How old was she? Thirty-four. Damn. Yeah, she's stupid as hell hell. Alright, well thank you for that donkey today. Yes indeed. Now when we come back, Dr. Judith Joseph will be joining us soon. What? What
Starting point is 01:22:11 kind of ad lib was that? No, I love Dr. Judith Joseph. It is mental health awareness month. Dr. Judith Joseph has a new book out called High Functioning Overcoming Your Hidden Depression and Reclaiming Your Joy. Alright, we'll talk to her next. It's The Breakfast Club, good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Yes indeed. We have Dr. Judith Joseph, welcome. Thank you, so great to be here. Good morning. Happy mental health awareness month. Yes, happy mental health awareness month. So you have a new book out now called High Functioning. Overcome your hidden depression and reclaim your joy. What does hidden depression look like? So hidden depression is not like the typical depression. When people think of depression, they think of someone crying, not getting out of bed.
Starting point is 01:23:00 But hidden depression hides behind a mask of being pathologically productive. So imagine, you know, a single mom working to take care of her kids, working at her job, and she cannot slow down. People depend on her. So what does she do? She shows up to work with a smile on her face. She's showing up for others, but she feels no joy. And it's something called anhedonia. It's a scientific term that I study in my lab. People
Starting point is 01:23:25 don't even know it exists. So hidden depression doesn't necessarily look sad, but it doesn't feel joy. It feels empty. I actually I have a friend who just experienced that right. And he called me with like he had just hit the lottery though. It was so it was it was unusual. I don't like to say weird. It's so unusual. He called me say, yo, I just figured something out. I'm like, what he was like, I've been depressed all this time. I'm depressed. And I'm like, why you why why you we want to stake or cookie? Like, why are you so excited about it? Like, this is not good news. He was like, no, no, no, like, I'm not suicidal or anything. I've just been burying myself in my work. And I
Starting point is 01:24:02 am the most productive. But I'm not happy. My wife, she gets no attention from me. I'm not like mentally there for my kids and I just found out I was talking to my therapist and we you know and he got he was diagnosed and he has he's depressed and it was so crazy because I when when you think of depression you know you think of you know the suicidal thoughts and sad damn you can't you think of, you know, the suicidal thoughts and sad, damn, you can't get out of bed. He was the opposite, but he was still depressed. So I just, I just found that out.
Starting point is 01:24:31 Wow. You know why he was happy is because there's a term in psychology called affect labeling. When you know what you're dealing with, the uncertainty of not knowing how you feel just makes you feel so stressed. You feel like, okay, maybe there's something wrong with me. What I have to complain about, maybe it's my fault. But when someone tells you, no, what you're experiencing is anhedonia, it's actually a scientific symptom, many people struggle with it, then you feel as if, okay, it's not my fault. There's a term for this. I know what I'm working
Starting point is 01:24:58 with here so I can do something about it. And as human beings, our birthright is joy. Like joy is literally built into our DNA. And if we can't access that joy, that's a problem. So just because someone's not getting out, not, you know, in bed and crying all day doesn't mean that it's not a problem. We have to address this lack of joy. How do you get out of it? Right. So let's say you work with somebody who bullies you all the time, says you're Spanish when you're black, you know somebody who has a bad wig and you have to see it all the time. How do you get out of that place of working with them?
Starting point is 01:25:32 Because you got to go to work. Why are you looking at me like that? That's just a silly question. You got to make money. So how do you get out of that? You're not even being serious. I am being serious. Because there are people that don't want to work with people.
Starting point is 01:25:40 And that's why I bully him. How do you get out of that? But you know what he's doing right now? He's accessing joy. Yes, I am. Being playful, being comical. I'm being serious. Because there are people that don't want to work with people. How do you get out of that? But you know what he's doing right now? He's accessing joy. Yes, I am. Being playful, being comical. He is finding a way through a difficult situation by accessing joy, right?
Starting point is 01:25:52 But many of us just go to work and we do- I'm not being serious, but how do you, how do you, if you work with somebody that you don't like, but you still need to get money. I'm not talking about Shalamine or Jess or Lauren, but when people that, you know, don't like their job. But how do you continue to go through that? Because you still need money. You still gotta pay for the food on the table.
Starting point is 01:26:08 You still gotta pay for rent. You still gotta pay for your car. You still gotta pay for your kids. How do you get through that? What do you tell people to do? There's actually a term in my book called the biopsychosocial model, right? So what you're talking about,
Starting point is 01:26:19 and what you so eloquently said, is actually a model used by every single medical student in the world, right? The biopsychosocial is like a fingerprint. We all have our fingerprints, but it's all unique. So we each have a biopsychosocial. So for example, the person you're talking about, the biopsychosocial for that person, socially, what's happening is that they're in this stressful situation, they're not supported, they're actually being, you know, there's microaggressions, maybe macroaggressions at work. But that's just one part of why they're no longer happy. It's one of the things that's draining their
Starting point is 01:26:48 the science of their happiness, right? The other parts of that model are the biologicals. Maybe this person also has a medical condition, like, I don't know, diabetes, or psychologically they have past trauma. So all of those things play into what's taking away from their points of joy. So understanding where the stresses are and what's causing you to be unhappy is important. But even within stressful situations, because I've traveled the world, over 30 countries looking at joy,
Starting point is 01:27:14 even when people don't have running water, even when they're in war zones, they can still access joy. Why? To find something that makes you happy regardless of the situation. Right, because joy is a survival technique. We have to access joy in order to survive, not just to thrive, but to survive.
Starting point is 01:27:27 So you can find ways at work to connect with someone else. Maybe someone else is going through it with you, so you're sharing, you're venting. Maybe you can use a candle at work or something fragrant to stimulate the senses, or make sure that you're leaving work and having lunch like a human being instead of being in front of a screen, right? There are things, ways that you're leaving Joy look like that's why I say understand the science of your happiness. There's only one Leonard
Starting point is 01:28:05 There's only one Judith, you know ever in the history of the universe in the future So what is it about you that makes you joyful and in my research lab when we're studying joy We're actually adding up points. For example, if you took a rest and you woke up, did you feel refreshed? That's a point if you were hungry and you savored your meal. That's a point If you were lonely you feel refreshed? That's a point. If you were hungry and you savored your meal, that's a point. If you were lonely, you connected with someone, that's a point. But the rest of the world is so busy
Starting point is 01:28:30 chasing this idea of happy, right? I will be happy when I get the perfect partner. I'll be happy when I pay off my debt. I'll be happy when I have a house. The science shows us that even when those things happen, we're still not happy. So we have to access the points of joy that really feed into our unique sense of happiness.
Starting point is 01:28:46 For me, it's connection. If I'm busy, if I'm speaking at places, if I'm on TV all the time and I'm not connecting with my family, I'm going to be unhappy. But for you, it could be something else. We're still kicking it with Dr. Judith Joseph. Her new book, High Functioning is out right now. Charlamagne? What are the signs of hidden depression and high functioning depression?
Starting point is 01:29:05 Many people confuse high function depression with burnout. The difference is that for burnout, let's say you go to a party and you say I'm burnt out, people are like, oh, me too, me three, right? But if you walk up to a party and you say I'm depressed, people are like, oh, you should do something about that, right? Like your friend, right? I got cocaine right here. All we got to do is sniff it. So when you think about burnout, right?
Starting point is 01:29:29 Burnout by definition is an occupational hazard. When the WHO, the World Health Organization classified it, it's the workplace causing the symptoms. So technically, you take the person out of the workplace, they should get better. With high functioning folks, even when you take them out of the workplace, they're not better. What are they doing? They're busying themselves on a side hustle or two. They're taking on somebody's problems. They can't sit still. They're cleaning out their house or their garage, right? Because it's not the workplace. It's not something on the outside.
Starting point is 01:29:56 It's something inside that's unresolved. So this hidden trauma, this unresolved pain, so they're trying to outrun it by busying themselves. So they sit still they feel empty when they're not working they feel restless Let me ask you a question. I feel like and this is a good thing, but I also feel like it's a bad thing I feel like in the last ten years so many people have been talking about all these mental health issues and terms Does it sometimes I feel like it's an overload because it's like, you know, you get a pain, right? You Google it and there's 30 things that's wrong with you. Yo K-Pop fans, it's your boy Bomhan and I'm bringing you something epic. Introducing the K-Factor.
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Starting point is 01:34:16 And I maximized that while I was lying. Listen to Deep Cover, The Truth About Sarah on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're even more confused, right? Is that the same thing sometimes with a lot of these terms? Like when you hear certain things as now I'm depressed, now I'm a high function and depressed, now I have anxiety, now I have this... Is it like, do you feel like it's too much for people and how can people really break
Starting point is 01:34:48 that all down and realize what they really have and what's really bothering them? Because everything sounds the same at some time. I mean, it's a great question, but the term affect labeling in psychology shows us that when you can name it appropriately, right, it decreases the anxiety. Think about if you were in a room and it was pitch black and you heard a loud crash Some of us would start swinging some would start screaming some start running But if you turn that light on and you saw what it was a vase fell or some inanimate object you feel relaxed Why because you know what you're doing what it is, right?
Starting point is 01:35:17 It's the not knowing and not naming appropriately that creates a lot of anxiety So people end up just drinking a lot right to soothe that thing because they don't know what it is. Or they end up gambling or spending a lot of money or doing things busy in themselves to outrun this pain they don't understand. And it's interesting too, because you know, I think whatever you're speaking to, to me anyway, is the fact that there was a time when nobody used to talk about their mental health issues. So we went from saying, we don't we don't speak about this at all. So we went from saying we don't speak about this at all, to in order to eradicate the stigma, we gotta tell our story. So now people are not just going out there to get help and understanding what they're dealing with,
Starting point is 01:35:50 they're telling their stories. They're telling their story, but still the older generations are not as open. The younger ones, they wanna talk about it, they wanna feel seen, they wanna feel connected, and many of them do sometimes inappropriately use a label to connect, right? But there's still a lot of stigma.
Starting point is 01:36:07 The places I go, the corporations I go to, it's still more accepted to say burnt out than depressed, but we have to name what it is because the supports are going to look very different. The resources look very different. Now how do you know the difference between somebody who's staying busy as a response to trauma to somebody who's actually really busy? Yes, great question. It's the anhedonia. You know, when you ask someone who's busy, but they're actually pathologically productive, they're not getting joy. You
Starting point is 01:36:32 know, they end up at my office in Manhattan and they're like, I don't know what's wrong. Everything looks good on the outside, but I just don't feel joyful. Whereas someone who's actually engaged in what they're doing, they're they got the pep in their step. they're engaged and they're connected and they're feeling as if they're getting a sense of purpose versus when you keep doing over time without actually tapping into purpose, you do feel numb. You're like, why am I doing this? But you cannot stop because you're trying to outrun something that you don't even know
Starting point is 01:36:59 is there. Now you talked about, you know, working and being at rest. So how do you know when you're at rest and be okay with being at rest? One of the points of joy that we measure in my research lab is actually that it's called psychomotor agitation. It's a terrible scientific term, but what it means is that you can't sit still. You're just on edge. And when you add a point of joy, being able to be calm and not stressed is actually a
Starting point is 01:37:24 point that many of us leave on the table. We often think, oh able to be calm and not stressed is actually a point that many of us leave on the table. We often think, oh, that's anxiety, not depression. But no, it's almost like a different side of the same coin, right? You can't be joyful if you're stressed. Do you know anyone who's been really stressed out who was like also joyful? No. And then look at the monks in other countries and the gurus. They may have just a mat to sleep on and bread and water, but they are joyful because they are at peace. So if you're not feeling that sense of peace and you have that inner restlessness, it's really difficult to be joyful. Does everybody's peace the same peace though?
Starting point is 01:37:55 It's not and that's why I said understand the science of your happiness. In my book I actually have that model so that I democratize this information. Why are just the doctors and medical students holding on to this? Every patient that comes to my lab draws their own biopsychosocial, right? So you want to figure out what are the things that are taking away from my happiness, right? If you don't understand what's taking away their points of joy, how can you understand the science of your happiness? So in some cases you're gonna look at the social factors, right someone who is partnered with somebody who's toxic I mean they could eat all the kale they want, they're still going to be unhappy, right? Versus somebody who, let's say, psychologically, they dealt with a lot of trauma in their childhood, neglected,
Starting point is 01:38:32 abused. We need to address that first, because it's really hard to access joy when you're in fight or flight. And then biologically, let's say, if someone who has an autoimmune condition, right? If you're constantly in a state of high inflammation, your brain's not going to be happy. So everyone's so unique, but we're chasing things that work for other people without understanding our own science. I'm hung up on this one question you asked earlier.
Starting point is 01:38:53 It was like, can you feel joy when you're stressed? It's very, very difficult. It's super difficult. Imagine when you're stressed and you're sitting eating your food. Many times we'll finish the bowl and we don't even know we finished our plate, right? Because our brain was somewhere else. So we missed out on a point of joy, right? We weren't tasting the crunchy salad
Starting point is 01:39:11 or the dressing. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. Like, mostly, not even everything because I ain't trying to sound like a client here or anything like that. But a lot of things that you're saying, like I like live this every day, like, I'll eat something up and then do something else and then forget that I'm even and forget that I'm hungry and then do it because I'm trying to keep myself busy. Like I wake up every morning at four being here at six. We get done at a certain time I go home then I work on other businesses and then I do and then I have an eight month old baby and 13 year old son and year old son, and I'm married, and it's so many different things, right? And the drugs. And the drugs. So yeah, he just not had to put it out there like that.
Starting point is 01:39:51 But yes, what I find for me, speaking of drugs, at the end of the night, a good pre-roll, like for me, weed that calms me down, I'm able to relax and just take a breath. But by the time that is, that's like 12, 1 o'clock in the morning, I got to be back up at four. But I don't think I'm stressed or depressed. It's like, what the hell is going on then?
Starting point is 01:40:16 I'm not your doctor, but a lot of people like you who have busy careers, families, a lot of responsibilities, they're caretakers. In my study, the first ever published in the world on high function depression, a lot of caretakers, a lot of caregivers, they experience that lack of joy. Why? Because they're so busy in their minds, they're so restless that they're missing out the precious baby's face in front of them who wants to snuggle with you, right? You lost the point right there because when you snuggle, you're getting oxytocin, right?
Starting point is 01:40:42 You're getting that attachment hormone. And you know, many times I hear a lot of people saying they're intimate with their partners and they just can't wait to get over with it because they just want to, you know, they're missing out. That's a point of joy for human beings, right? Sleep is a point of joy, but many of us are spending our times on our phones before we go to bed. So that's disrupting our sleep.
Starting point is 01:41:00 So we are losing so many points because we cannot sit still. What do you hope people walk away with after reading, high functioning? I really hope that they understand that joy is a priority. It is a necessity. It is part of our survival, especially in our community. Without joy, what would have happened to us? You know, so prioritize joy and understand the signs of your happiness.
Starting point is 01:41:23 You know, there is only one you and there will only ever be one you. So take the time to know yourself, understand what's taking away from your joy so you know where to add back to it. And joy has the power to change people and their communities. So you know, we all probably have interacted with people who are not joyful. They can change the tone of a room, right? So if we take the time to invest in joy, we can literally change not just ourselves,
Starting point is 01:41:47 but our families, our communities, and I think the world. How did they find you, Dr. Judith? Dr. JudithJoseph.com, and follow me on all the socials, Dr. JudithJoseph, and pick up my book, High Functioning. Overcome your hidden depression and reclaim your joy. Thank you for joining me. Thank you so much. Dr. Judith Joseph, it's the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:42:04 Good morning, thank you. Thank you, it's such a Dr. Judith Joseph. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Thank you. Thank you. Such a pleasure. Let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren will be coming with a straight face. She gets into somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details.
Starting point is 01:42:12 I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything. She'll be having the latest on this. The latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes she has facts, sometimes she has details, sometimes she has a little bit of everything. Oh, it's the latest. On the Breakfast Club. Talk to me.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Talk to me. Talk to me. Talk to me. Talk to me. Talk to me. Talk to me. Talk to me. Talk to me. Talk to me. I did want to talk about yesterday, Cassie in court running us through that. Back to Diddy. Yeah, back to Diddy. Running us through the video of her being dragged in that hotel room back in 2016.
Starting point is 01:42:41 So people have been trying to figure out kind of like what the narrative is. Was she trying to get away from a freak off or was it two people so jealous, so upset? Cassie says that that was her trying to leave a freak off 100%. She says that she had shot Diddy a text message, which they brought up in court. In that text, she's texting him and saying, I want to F-O so bad. That's how they talked about freak offs. The text is to pop up. She calls him pop up because she alleges that he wanted her to call him what she used to call her grandfather. I was about to say Pop-Op is for granddad. Yes, I used to call my Pop-Op, my grandfather Pop-Op.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Boy, that's when you know the girl way too young for you. Pop-Op. It's one thing when the girl say daddy. Yes. Pop-Op. She said on the stand too, she was like, yeah, weird, I know, but whatever. But anyway, so there's text between baby girl and pop up her and puff. And she's talking about, he called her baby girl.
Starting point is 01:43:31 He called her CC, Cassie combs. Those were the nicknames that he had. Think about the contracts granddaddy and baby girl, BBG and pop up. It's pop up. Pop up. Come on. Come on. Y'all. Come on guys. Yeah. Well, so in the text messages, she's saying that she wants to freak off and people and I think the prosecutors brought this up early because they want to get ahead of it because She's saying she's it. She's initiating it, right? But she's also alleged at the same time she was trying to get away from it and couldn't
Starting point is 01:43:58 So she said that the reason why she shot this text and the reason why they were even in that hotel in LA the data She got dragged back in 2016 was because she had this major movie premiere coming up on Monday that video that we saw she alleges happened over the weekend she believes it was Friday she said she initiated that freak off because she wanted to make him happy when he was pleased when his moods were great she she would she would be okay she didn't want anything to ruin a premiere she didn't want to be told that she couldn't go or that you know that bruises or anything allegedly so she said she did the freak off. They got there, they were drinking, they were partying with one of the escorts, a male escort, and somehow she ends up getting
Starting point is 01:44:32 hit in her face by him. He allegedly punches her in her face. She's bruised in the face now and she said at that point, she's like, I got to get out of here because if it gets worse, she has this, she's thinking about the premiere and she's scared. So we see her in the video trying to get away and that's when she says that you know She alleges he dragged her back into the room took her stuff back into the room But she was trying to explain why she was even there in the first place and again just you know Quickly put in context to that video. She said this is her Trying to get away can't get away but doing this because if it makes him happy she can be in some bit of peace
Starting point is 01:45:02 What was the reaction in the courtroom when all this was happening even the semen on the nipples like what was the reaction with Puff, the family, even Cassie's husband who was there? You know I think so I was sitting behind Cassie's brother and Cassie's husband. Her brother was a bit uneasy when they were playing the video they didn't really react too much to the whole semen on the nipple and a lot of stuff with the men and I don't know if it's because everybody knows that we're all watching them. Neither did Puff's family. But there was one point
Starting point is 01:45:26 where they talked about all the drugs that they would be on during these freak off because she said she wouldn't remember a lot of them because of them. And they asked her, well, how were you reading up on drugs? How did you know who to call? And she said it was because of Diddy. And then they asked her, well, who, whose drug contact was it? Like whose drug dealer was it? And she said, she alleges it was Puff's. And I watched him and Puff was looking at her and he was like, he made this face like come on me and I was like, oh wow And that was the first time that I saw him visibly like because other than that it was blank stare at her the whole time I wonder you didn't they arrest one of Diddy's drug mules. Remember that little boy?
Starting point is 01:45:55 He's not he's not on I don't know if he's gonna be included in the trial or not So far the witness list all we have had all we've heard from was one male escort Cassie The witness list all we have had all we've heard from was one male escort Cassie The LAPD security guy that was like security She's pregnant. So how was she doing? Does she need multiple breaks? Is she took to me? Yes, she's a great she took two breaks. She asked for one of the breaks while she's on the stand She's doing a lot of like this like holding herself. Yeah, she cried a little bit contracting Yeah, dad would be like months. Yeah, she cried a little bit. She cried in contract and, that would be crazy. She cried a little bit in the beginning,
Starting point is 01:46:27 like the opening of her testimony, but she held it together very, very well. Listen, I told y'all yesterday, that video is going to be the most damning piece of evidence in this case because it's almost impossible to see that video and give Diddy the benefit of the doubt for anything. And I know folks say, oh, he's not on trial for domestic violence, but the beating part is part of
Starting point is 01:46:49 the coercion and manipulation that defines trafficking in a court of law. When you get people to engage in sexual acts through violence or drugs or emotional manipulation, that all constitutes trafficking in a court of law. I guarantee you what you're gonna see over the next few days is them defining what sexual trafficking is. They're gonna be talking about the Mann Act. They're gonna be talking about the coercion
Starting point is 01:47:15 and the manipulation, the combo of drugs and violence and the emotional manipulation that he allegedly used to get people to do sexual things. I guarantee you they're gonna start talking about the transportation of prostitutes. That's all that goes into sexual trafficking. I agree with what you're saying because they set it up real good just to bring that landing in.
Starting point is 01:47:34 What's the difference between a prostitute and an escort? So the way that they were having a conversation yesterday was like, escorts are people that like, not even an escort, but they were calling them them escorts but a lot of the men that they were enlisting from like backpage Craigslist and these like male service male Service escort services back pages. All right, where people that were supposed to be there You just they come and you like enjoy their time. So like I'm gonna Craigslist She was having her phone number to respond to the ads
Starting point is 01:48:02 They were booty on backpages She didn't have to post them but she had to use her real phone number to respond to the ads. She didn't have to post them, but she had to use her real phone number to respond to the ads she said. But to answer your question, they're still really defining it, but from what I'm getting from it, it seems like an escort isn't supposed to be having sex with you. They're supposed to just be there and you enjoy their time, you might date with them, they might come and do like, you know, bring a stripper. They might come and **** and then you take that **** and rub it on your nipples. Don't give me the line. This is why you're being a stripper and then you take that don't don't give me the
Starting point is 01:48:26 line right now yeah all these semen jokes and when they do these nobody laughs in the courtroom right nobody huh nobody laughs in the courtroom when I say like you put the the semen on the nipples like it's no outburst or anything like that no if you don't know Lauren is at the court every day she's at the court the reason why I think yesterday people didn't catch a lot of stuff is because people were bored It took the prosecution a long time to get to a lot of this stuff I was duly intrigued and my notes were noting this is years and years of comedy material. Hmm Yeah, well, I'm a stiff nipple with a top
Starting point is 01:49:02 I'm a stiff nipple with a top On the nipple becomes Imagine all the kids gotta be and rub it on the nipple, it becomes slippery. Oh my God. Niggles start glazing the rim. Imagine all the kids gotta be in there watching it. The girls didn't leave yesterday either. Oh, during the nipple? They didn't leave during anything. They stayed during the whole testimony.
Starting point is 01:49:33 Oh, their daughters. Yeah, and Diddy was straight-faced at Cassie. During the video, I do feel like Alex Fine, he had a couple of stares for Puff. This is why we need the boondocks. This is why you need the Spell Show. Okay. This is great material, guys. Jesus Christ. This is why you need the Spell Show. This is great material guys. Jesus Christ. I'll be back with more updates because today Cassie's
Starting point is 01:49:50 going back on the stand and then she's going to get cross-examined at some point. I think we got about like two more days with her on the stand. So head your ass to court and good luck. Thank you. And we'll talk to you later on today. Yeah, once Lauren goes to court we don't see Lauren again until 7pm. Because they take my phones. I know, I know. I be feeling like, I be coming out like, woo, fresh out, first day out. Like it be tough. Alright, the mix is up next.
Starting point is 01:50:10 Lauren, thank you for the latest. It's the Breakfast Club, good morning. You're checking out the Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club. Salute to Shaquille O'Neal. Shaq has us on, so Shaq says good morning, Jess. Good morning. Whatute to Shaquille O'Neal. Shaq has us on, so Shaq says good morning, Jess. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:50:25 What up, Shaq? And he said, tell Charlamagne he ugly as hell. Tell Shaq I look like a five foot six him. Okay? I've heard people say that. People be like, yo, you look like Shaq, a short Shaq. People have told me that before. They was like, yo, you look like a short Shaq.
Starting point is 01:50:42 Damn. That's crazy. And they just called you ugly. Hey, I want to tell Shaq something else too. Shaq, I don't need you taking those days off from inside the NBA. No disrespect. I ain't like the combination they had up there yesterday.
Starting point is 01:50:54 You know what I'm saying? Dwight Howard is cool. I like that Dwight Howard doing commentary someplace else, but I'm used to a certain combination on inside the NBA. I like Chuck, Kenny, Ernie, Shaq, okay? During the playoffs. I didn't like what I was watching last night. Salute to Jalen Rose, salute to Dwight, all of them.
Starting point is 01:51:13 But that ain't the combination. That wasn't the right. What was you doing Shaq, where were you? Where was you at Shaq? He was busy. And I mean that respectfully, because I like all of these guys in the middle. He was traveling.
Starting point is 01:51:21 They sound good together, collective. Not last night. No, no, when Shaq is there. Oh yeah, when it's Shaq, Ernie, Chuck, and Kenny. I ain't, no. I didn't like your combo last night, no. They trying new people? No, Shaq probably has something to do. Oh, right, so they just fill in other, okay.
Starting point is 01:51:36 Shaq is probably opening up another Papa John's. Oh, right. Shaq is probably opening up another Bill, you know Shaq being everything, so. All right. Who knows who Shaq, salute to Shaq. Well, you better not take too long, cause somebody steal his job.
Starting point is 01:51:46 Damn. No, not the person, not Dwight. That ain't going to happen. Shaq probably like, that's what y'all got feeling in? I'm good. Dwight good on his podcast, but I just don't like that combination. I didn't like that last night.
Starting point is 01:52:01 All right. And don't forget to get your tickets this weekend. Your girl, Jess Hilarious, and your guy guy Desi Alexander will be at Harris. At Harris. Harris. I keep taking the H off. No it's Harris. There was a comment in my ass. I guess Harris. Hard H pause. So Hard H. Harris. I will be there. This Saturday the show starts at 8, doors open at 7. Yes I might do a meet and greet. I'm not sure. That's a lot of people y'all. That's a lot. But the tickets are selling and it's almost sold out. So get your tickets now at jessholarisofficial.com.
Starting point is 01:52:29 Then next weekend, I don't know where it is set, but Mash and Tucket, Connecticut. I don't know if that's- Mash and Tucket? Yes, Mash and Tucket. I've never heard of that part of Connecticut. At Foxwood's Casino. Oh, Foxwood's Casino. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:40 Foxwood's Casino, yeah. I don't know. Well, Colin Hartford, Colin Bridgeport, Connecticut, all my ratchet cousins. I need y'all to get these That's close to Fox was I Close to the city. Yeah, cuz the next day I'm in Boston Yeah, Boston Massachusetts, so I got a lot of torn. I'm torn next weekend get your tickets for Connecticut and Boston I will see y'all next weekend, but this weekend AC I will be there all right I'm asking tug it sound like a drag queen tutorial like you mash it and then tug it. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 01:53:08 Definitely get your tickets if you have any problems I own the spot so if you have any problems at Harry's I own the spot. Just tell him me and you good. You're an idiot. Salute to Snoop for joining us this morning. Salute to the icon living Snoop Dogg. His new album, Is It a Crime, will be out tomorrow. So and then he got a movie. He's set up here all the time and he didn't even tell us about a movie. He had a movie premiere last night in New York City. He actually sent us the movie, right?
Starting point is 01:53:30 Didn't he send us the movie? Yeah, but he ain't talk about it on the interview. He got so much going on. Yeah, you're right. And salute to Dr. Judith Joseph. Yeah, she taught me a lot. High functioning. Yes, make sure you go get her book, High Functioning, Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim
Starting point is 01:53:45 Your Joy. Salute to Dr. Judith Joseph. And the positive note is simply this man, it comes from the great Wayne W. Dyer, you know I love Dr. Wayne W. Dyer, remove all unloving thoughts from your mind and practice kindness in all of your thoughts, words and actions. Okay, cultivate. If we focus on what's ugly, we attract more ugliness into our thoughts and then into our emotions and ultimately into our lives.
Starting point is 01:54:08 So remove all ugly, unloving thoughts from your mind expeditiously. Have a great day. Breakfast club bitches! You want to finish or y'all done? Why is a soap opera western like Yellowstone so wildly successful? The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater podcast network. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today.
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Starting point is 01:55:04 the rise of deepfake pornography and the battle to stop it. Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports.
Starting point is 01:55:28 It's kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We met them at their homes, we met them at their recording studios. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast
Starting point is 01:55:41 season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Sam Mullins, and I've got a new podcast coming out called Go Boy, the gritty true story of how one man fought his way out of some of the darkest places imaginable. Roger Caron was 16 when first convicted. Has spent 24 of those years in jail. But when Roger Caron picked up a pen and paper, he went from an ex-con to a literary darling.
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