The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Charlie Kirk Fatally Sh0t, G. Herbo Reacts To Trump Sending National Guard To Chicago, And More

Episode Date: September 11, 2025

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Wreck the fuck up, Breaker's Club. DJ Envy. And be playing by record I made it. Just hilarious. Just hilarious. She don't spare nobody. Charlemagne de God. What made you think the liking of controversial questions

that would take this part? I like this show. Thanks, breakfast club. Bow, my bow. Good morning, USA. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, just hilarious. Hey, Charlemay, what's popping. It is Thursday

I try to be all the voices How are y'all feeling this morning What's up, Redd? How are you feeling, brother? What up, honey? Ah, man, I hope you guys are doing good. Woke up this morning, you know, if you listen to the show,

you know I have these two puppies that I'm trying to train And it's been going well, I'm not going to lie, it's been going well, they've been potty trained, everything has been great until this morning And as soon as I walk downstairs, I could smell. All man. Yes, all man.

And I'm already running halfway late, so I'm like, but I'm already dressed. So I'm like, I can't, there's nothing I can do. Like, what are you doing that situation? Because I didn't have time to clean up the dog poop, right, or to pee. So you know what I did? What you do? Call my wife.

Hey, babe, there's a gift for you downstairs. So she wakes up, she comes downstairs, and she smells it, and she's cursed me out the whole way to the station. So they spread it out all over the floor? It was all, it was everywhere. And I don't know, because she, they've been so good. It's two twin Doberman pinches, and they've been so. great, so good. But last night, or this morning, I should say, I don't know,

maybe something went through their stomach or something, maybe it was something they ate. I don't know what it was, but it was all over the floor. Yeah, that's what I said, oh, my goodness. Well, salute to my wife. Good morning, baby. Rough way to start the morning. Rough way to start the morning. I got out of Dodge, though. But yeah, we got a great show for you today. Medi Hassan will be

joining us. Now, he's a journalist, broadcaster, an author. He put out the book, When Every Argument, The Art of Debating, Persu- waiting in public speaking. We're going to be chopping up with him a little bit later. And then coming up next, we have front page news. Mimi will be here.

She'll be breaking down everything with Charlie Kirk. And rest in peace and condolences to that young man. And we'll get into all that next. So don't go anywhere if you've got some things that get off your chest. 800-585-105-1. Phone lines are wide open. Charlemagne and Jess will be here in a second. It's the Breakfast Club.

Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess hilarious. Charlemaine, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page. news. Start off with some quick sports. Thursday night football!

The commanders take on the Green Bay Packers tonight at 8.15 p.m. That is on Prime Video. What's up, Mimi? First of all, I just want to say, yes, I am here. Don't play with me, because I don't know what you said before you got. Before y'all let me in the Zoom, but don't play me. And Mimi, you look pretty gooey. I was trying to be you.

I was like, what's up, Jess. Hi. That's what I did. What's up, Mimi? All right, y'all. Good morning. Yes, good morning. Envy. Good morning. So, we're going to start this morning with breaking news out of Utah, a shocking and deadly shooting involving one of the most controversial voices in conservative politics. 31-year-old Charlie Kirk, the co-founder of Turning Point USA, and a loud advocate for expansive gun rights,

was fatally shot and killed yesterday while speaking at a debate hosted by his nonprofit at Utah Valley University. Now, a manhut is still underway. Two people who were considered suspects were later released, according to police. Now, if you're not familiar with Kirk, he was huge. hugely influential among young conservatives, building turning point into a nationwide network on more than 3,000 college campuses and high school campuses. He was also, though, very polarizing, known for spreading election conspiracy theories, opposing gun restrictions, and pushing rhetoric that critics say fueled division. At yesterday's event, he was taking audience questions, taking audience questions about

mass shootings and gun violence when he was killed. Now, we're going to play the audio leading up to the shooting. want to warn you, it may be hard to listen to, but we do stop right before we hear the gunshots. Let's listen. Uh, so do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years? Too many. Okay. Okay.

Now, why it's a lot, right? I'm going to give you some credit. Do you know how many mass shooters that have been in America over the last 10 years? Counting or not counting gang violence? Great. So right after that, when he says gang violence, a single gunshot rang out. Video circling on social media shows Kirk grabbing his neck as blood pours from his wound. You can also see people panicking, screaming, scrambling for safety.

Now, Kirk, he often defended broad gun rights, even saying that some deaths were worth it to protect the Second Amendment. Now, video of that statement is also circulating on social media in the aftermath of his death, sparking a different conversation about gun laws and political extremism. And of course, as news spread lawmakers on both aisles, they are condemning the shooting, but the blame game has escalated. Fox News host Jesse Waters reacted to the shooting during his show. Let's listen to what he had to say. Charlie spoke the truth.

He said what he felt, and they killed him for it. The message is, shut your mouth. And this isn't the first time this has happened. This is just the worst time. They shot Trump. They went to Kavanaugh's house with a rifle. They're firebombing Elon's cars, rioting in L.A. Trans shooters are killing our kids.

Hell, Rand Paul got his ribs broken by his neighbor. Ice agents have to wear masks because their families are getting death threats. They're telling us we're at war. And then there's a Republican congresswoman Nancy May. She also spoke with reporters right after the shooting. Let's listen to that exchange. Democrats own what happened today. I am devastated.

Just because you speak your mind on an issue, doesn't mean you get shot. By that logic, do Republicans own the shooting of the two Democratic lawmakers in Minnesota? Political. Isn't this on both sides? Are you kidding me? No, I'm asking me. We don't know what condition Charlie Kirk is in right now. Some raging leftist lunatic put a bullet through his neck.

And you want to talk about Republicans right now? No, not at all. You said the Democrats have voted to. But I'm asking. The Democrats own this. Well, President Donald Trump has ordered flags to fly at half staff until September 14th in response to Kirk's death. And he called this a dark moment for America and blame the shooting on the radical left. Envy, what do you think about this?

I think that this shooter hasn't been caught yet. So I think our elected officials need to be a little bit careful before we place the blame. Charlemagne's here now as well. I do feel like the gentleman wasn't a politician, right? He wasn't a lawmaker. he had an opinion whether you believe his opinion whether you liked his opinion whether you disliked opinion part of being in this country is the right of free speech and the fact that he was shot and killed and he has two kids and he has a wife is absolutely positively sad and i don't believe

in that you know you should be able to say what you want to say whether people like it or love it or hate it but the fact that you have an opinion and you're killed for it is very disgraceful and i'm i feel sorry for that that that man's family he has two kids is it's just disgusting in America to me. That's how I feel Salomey. I just sat down give me a minute. Why don't we have to start this show at 6am all the time? Exactly. That's the time to start.

I literally just said. What's up? What's up, Jess? Yeah, I don't really know enough about, you know, Charlie Kurt to have an opinion about the things he said when he was alive. All I know is that I did hear that he had a family and he was taken away from

them simply and that's just that's messed up. So my heart goes out to his children and his wife, but he's gone now. And so everything that he was, you know, judged for sand or whatever, I mean, that's all over that really don't matter now because he's not here. Well, you know, we're also following another shooting, sadly, this one out of a high school in Colorado, about 30 minutes outside of Denver. Authorities there say a student opened fire yesterday at Evergreen High School.

That's just around 12 p.m., wounding two students before turning the gun on himself. Now, police confirmed the shooter died from a self-inflicted gun wound. Three students in total were rushed to the hospital. One remains in critical condition. Another is stable. And a fourth student was treated for other injuries. Now, after the shooting, the school went on lockdown. Officers, of course, they swept the campus.

Students were evacuated and parents were reunited with your children at a nearby elementary school. The FBI and the ATF are assisting. The motive is still unclear. and the suspect's identity has not been released. So we're just seeing. This was in Colorado. This was right outside Denver, about 30 minutes outside Denver yesterday.

I just sat down. Do we have to start this show at 6 a.m. every day? Like, Cammy, can we maybe 6.03? You knew that. Y'all been doing this for the last 15. I know. And you know what the old I get? I want to adjust things.

For moments like this. Like, you just walk in and it's just heavy immediately off the top. I got to get my bearings. You're right. Yeah, absolutely. Yes, we started smooth, we talked about the dogs, we played some music. What dogs? My dogs, whatever, my dogs pooped this morning.

I had to clean up. But anyway, I had the mic here about shit. I'm like, what dogs? We had a nice conversation. Jess came in, she was telling it, like, it was a nice, and then you just, you know. Did we tell him Medi Assange going to be here this morning? We did that. Okay, do you tell him we taped it yesterday, though? Just to be sure, we taped the yesterday as well. Yeah, yeah. We taped yesterday. It's one everybody to know that. And you know, because of all of these different

events that have happened, I don't want, you know, to think that We're not discussing it. Good morning, Mimi. How are you this morning? Good morning, Charlott. I'm good. How are you? I'm blessed black and highly favorite.

Good morning, Jess. Grab my phone charge. You know how phone charges are up here. Charleman is using my phone charge. I want to make sure because Lauren stole his. I want mine back. Get it off your chest. Stay still in charges.

She's still in the laptop charge of my job. Did you do? Damn. Damn. Yeah, go ahead. Get it off your chest. 800-585-105-10. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open.

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Call up next. 800-585-105-1. Not just me. I'm with the coach of feeling. Hello, who's this? This is Kiki from Jersey City. Hey, Kiki from Jersey City. Good morning.

Good morning. I just want to make a part. A point about, you know, the Republicans are still and make America great and hatred and all these other things. But what they also need to take into context is what comes along with making America great is now their attempted assassinations on our politicians. We came away from that when America was great. Our politicians were safe. There were no assassinations. So when they want to bring back the Great America again, they have to realize that this is awful what they're going.

going to bring back where our politicians and our public figures are no longer safe and they're a target. I really do want to. So they have to take the good with the bad. I wonder was there ever a time where politicians our public figures were safe. I mean, I think that there's different moments

in our history where, you know, things get ramped up, but they're never truly safe. It seems a lot worse the last couple of years, though. It seems like the attack on people's speech and what they say seems a lot worse the last couple of years. Hello, who's this? Hey, this is C.T. from Jersey.

Hey, CC from Jersey, good morning. Talk to us. Hey, man, I just want to say, guys, I'm a huge fan of what you guys do. But I want to say, just to everyone listening, we having a crisis right now in this country with young American men and a lack of guidance and the lack of morals and love and unity and respect as people. And these young men are taking to the internet and watching videos of hate speech and xenophobia, homophobia, sexism, misogynistic views. And I just want to say to people, raise your. kids right raise your raise your raise these young men this is the future right now we are responsible for the direction this country is going in as parents as oh it's just sickening to see people who are having children they're not raising their children

right they're letting the internet raise their children they're letting hate speech and Islamophobia and homophobia and sexism raise their children and we all need to come together today is a perfect example of Differences and opinions and it's just so sad when you see the way this world is going and I was raised by a single mother who worked three jobs and I am now a husband and father. I'm trying to raise a young man myself and seeing the world that he's living in and the fact that someone who can parade around the country spewing hate speech can be celebrated. It's just very sad and I understand there's differences in opinions and the freedom of speech, but there's limits to freedom of speech. speech, there's actions when you say things. I definitely agree with that.

I think we all need to practice more mindfulness. You know what I mean? Like we like to say that we like to say that there's freedom of speech, but we have to understand that there is consequences to the words that come out of our mouth, which is why we should be very mindful of the things that come out of our mouth. Yeah, there are consequences. Should there be consequences? Should there be death consequences?

No, I'm not saying that is. I'm not saying that. And by the way, I'm not, I'm not talking about anything. particular situation. What you just said in me is exactly why you should be mindful because you don't get to determine those consequences. No, you're right. That's why you should be very mindful of what comes out of your mouth because you do not get to determine the consequences of the impact of your words. Get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed.

From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to him.

my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Power struggles, shady money, drugs, violence, and broken promises. It's a freaking war zone. These people are animals.

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And listen now The Breakfast Club This is your time to get it off your chest Whether you are mad or blessed We want to hear from you on the breakfast club Hello, who's this? This is KG from KC, man What's up?

What's up, brother? He's KG from KC. What's up, what's up? Charlotte McGee or Charleney? Charlotte McGee. You're right. Hey, envy, man. I just got something to get off my chest, man.

Hey, I Instagram stalked you last night, man, and if Black Excellence had a picture next to it, man, it would be your family, bro. He's got a beautiful. First of all, how the hell could they ever be black excellence when they're all Dominican? I know, we're not Dominican at all. I appreciate that, brother. Just trying to do the right thing, trying to raise six kids and try to be a good husband.

I think y'all are excellent, but the black, ugh. We all black, man. But thank you, brother. I appreciate you. My other thing is, man, hey, have y'all watched the Hurricane Katrina documentary? No, I haven't yet. I heard about it. I haven't watched it yet.

Oh, my God. Oh, Jess. What's up, baby? I'm sorry. What's up? you good. Yeah, I watched that last night, man. We said, hey, man, the government should be a shame today stuff. Like, no bull crap, man. I almost came to tears watching that, bro. Like, how the government treated our black people, bro. We should be scared to live here, bro. Like, I mean,

it's crazy, bro. Y'all should watch it. Check it out. You know, it's so crazy. That's why it's wild. Like, when I heard the last caller call up in, he was saying how, you know, man, you know, look at where we're going as a country, but then you can watch a Katrina doc. are today is the 24th anniversary of the 9-11 terror attack America we've been here we've been here yeah

hello who's this uh that's nick out of Florida I wrote down five solutions for the trucking economy I wanted to share okay Nick you came in hot that's right go go Nick go all right the first one say don't say loads because of that low IQ

indivision all right we're not going to sound on that one I don't think you need the second one says broker transfer That one means basically that these brokers need to share what they're getting paid on the load That way we know that we're not getting undercut The next one is create an app that put shippers directly in touch with the drivers And I think that'll that'll help out a lot because we can basically cut out the middleman which is the broker

They can create an app to where we have the driver we just turn on our GPS and that tell the shippers which driver which driver is the closest to them so the shipper can connect directly to that closest driver to them to do whatever they need done. The next one is a $400 minimum. It got to be a $400 minimum just as a base. And the last one says don't undercut anybody. If a driver bid on something for $750, don't say that you're going to do it for $700. That's just taking money out of your pockets and it. like leave it at either be it higher or leave it leave it at what it is and that's all i wanted to say

about the trucking economy in florida you should add one more never raw dog never raw dog a lot lizard okay hey uh is just there yes yeah what's up don't don't ask me after he say something like that sir but yes i'm right here just uh husband is truck yeah that's what i wanted to talk about because i know just husband a truck driver i never been over the road i'm always local to florida so I kind of wanted to get your feedback about how your husband is doing over the road. But first, let me, I wanted to say something to Charlemagne. First, Charleman, you said you don't gamble, but you buy lottery tickets. You know that's gambling.

Man, shut up. That's gambling. You're right. That is gambling. And, uh... I don't place bets. That's what I don't do. I feel you.

I feel you. I feel you. But my last thing is, my last thing is, Charlemann, I wanted to say, uh, when people call about whatever they're going through and they want to put their cash shop out there but let them people put their cash out there like it might not be a big deal to you but let them people put that thing out there

they're going through a lot no some of them don't be going through a lot so it depends on what it is they're going through we can't just be letting people you know uh guilt our listeners and they're doing things they ain't got no business doing just because you know they got a flat tire

but we do let them it depends on the circumstance sometimes we block them a little bit Depends on the circumstance. Some of these people just be talking to be talking. Get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1. We got the latest with Laura coming up.

What are we talking about? Yes, we do. We're going to get into some more young thug because I spoke to a source with Cobb County who let me know that as of yesterday, nobody can request any jail calls or any open records when it comes to Young Thug. And this took effect yesterday

because they're concerned for Young Thug's safety and the safety of his family. So we're going to talk about it. Because all those jail calls that leaked, Now we got some answers as the why and when it's going to stop. All right. We'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club.

Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Salomey Nagar. We are the Breakfast Club. La Rosa is here as well.

We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. Writer, broadcaster, Minnie Hassan. Welcome. Thanks for having me. How you feeling? I'm feeling tired. Tired.

Why so tired? I'm not a morning person. I could never do a show called anything breakfast related. When are you time to usually wake up? I mean, I wake up early. I just don't get going until later in the day. I do my best work at 2 a.m. Got you.

I know you don't have a lot of time, so there's a lot of questions I want to ask you. I want to start off in the past 24 hours. Israel has bombed Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Qatar. Am I missing somebody? Tunisia. What is that about? What it's about is it's one country in the Middle East that doesn't have to abide by the rules that everyone else follows.

there is no red line if they were any other country in the Middle East if they were Arab country a Muslim country we would be calling them a rogue nation because they just bombed as you said multiple sovereign countries many of which had not attacked them Tunisia didn't do anything to them they bombed the flotillion Tunisia and that's just in the last

couple of days you go back further they've bombed Iran and Iraq and Yemen Syria so they bombed I think around nine different places in the Middle East over the last year which I can't think of any other country in the world that has done that in modern times So why and why no penalty?

I don't want to know why, period. Yeah, why? Oh, so why they're doing it? We know, we know Palestine. Why they're doing it? Currently they are run by the most far-right government in their history, which is super belligerent, super aggressive, has people like Bazzarlo Smotrish, the finance minister,

who talks openly of greater Israel, wants to have Israel with even bigger borders than the occupied territories they have, and why are they getting away with it because of our leaders in Washington, D.C., where I'm based, because of the president, the United States, Donald Trump, because of Congress,

and because of both parties in Congress. Let's be clear. When it comes to Israel, I know every other issue in America is like, Democrat versus Republican, red versus blue. Not on Israel. On Israel, it's a bipartisan consensus. Joe Biden let him do whatever he want.

Donald Trump lets him do whatever he wants. The Qatar thing was interesting because why did they bond Qatar? Didn't Qatar give Trump a plane? Didn't they say they're going to invest them a trillion dollars into the U.S.? But they did give them a plane. They are doing a golf course with Eric Trump. They are a very close ally of the United States. They host a U.S. military base is in Qatar.

that the united states clearly signed off on a military strike on an allied country where like 10 000 american troops are based which is kind of insane if you think about it no matter what you do you can host an american military base you can give the president a plane you can host his family golf course you can be really close allies but if israel wants to bomb you the united states will let israeli that's think about how insane that is but i'm still trying to wrap my mind well their reasoning for katar was we want to take out the hamas leadership which is based in katar what What they omit to mention is that the Qatah leader, the Hamas leadership in Qatar, because the United States government asked for them to be in Qatar.

Barack Obama in 2011 said, I want you guys, I want, he said to Qatar, I want you guys to host Hamas. I don't want Hamas to go to Iran. I want them to be somewhere we can talk to them. So the Qatari's have always hosted Hamas, but with U.S. and Israeli approval. They don't tell you that when they're bull-shying it. So there is Hamas leadership in Qatar. Yes. No one's ever hidden.

That's where they negotiated. That's where, and by the way, these guys were meeting when they were attacked to discuss a ceasefire deal, which is another reminder that Israel. and Netanyahu and Smoksh who don't want a ceasefire. Every time there's a negotiation for a ceasefire, they attack the negotiators. Last year, they killed Ismail Hani, a leader of Hamas, in Tehran. The guy was in the middle

of negotiations for a ceasefire. They killed him. In Iran, remember they bombed Iran the other day? One of the people they targeted was a guy called Ali Shamkani. He went on NBC News just two weeks earlier and said, I'm up for a deal with Donald Trump. We can do a nuclear deal. They bombed him. Why would you bomb people who are negotiating peace deals and ceasefires? Unless you don't want peace deals and ceasefire.

Why wouldn't they want peace deal? Why wouldn't they? Because that constrains their vision. Their vision is we should have no rules. We shouldn't have to stop fighting for anyone else. We want to continue the war. Matthew Miller, who was Joe Biden's State Department spokesman, said recently that when he was in government, he heard Netanyahu say, this war will go on for decades. So what do you use? Decades.

Long war. So if Hamas leadership is there, does that justify the bombing? No, because they're there, because we wanted them there. And you can't just bomb any sovereign country where there's people you don't like or you're opposed to. I mean, this is a very dangerous. road we've gone down over the last couple of years. We've burned down international law, the Geneva Conventions, all the norms and precedents. I mean, you don't think people around the world are watching this saying, why can I do what Israel does? Like all the, the idea that

we're going to go to Russia and be like, you can't bomb hospitals in Ukraine. Putin say, why? Israel can bomb hospitals. I'm bombing terrorists in those hospitals. Like, the arguments that they've deployed to justify torture, the bombing of civilian areas, that can be replicated by every, quote, unquote rogue state in the world. Why not? Very dangerous road. We spent 70 years, the United States, the UK, the West, building up the international order. It's all been burned down over the last two years

for one guy, Netanyahu. Now, Ben Shapiro was here earlier this week, and you hit me... Why you start laughing like that? Why are you still laughing like that? Why are you struggling? You gave a BS answer on genocide. Oh, yeah. What exactly? What, you want to... We have a clip?

Yeah, we have the clip. You don't think what's happening in guys is a genocide. Okay, but the world's leading association of genocide scholars has declared that Idro is committing genocide and Gaza, based off the pure definition of... Well, it's not actually, if you read their actual study, it's not based on the quote-unquote pure definition of genocide. They don't actually even define genocide in the document. The question is not whether some sort of coterie of people who call themselves experts in an issue are quote-unquote experts on the issue. The question is whether the definition is met. The definition of genocide is not met.

So what is a genocide do? A genocide is the attempt to force a... destroy an entire population, which is not what has happened. So it's not the attacks on like the personal facilities needed for like survival, like health care and educational institutions. Well, again, Israel has shipped in more humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip than literally any army to a population that supports the enemy in literally all of human history. They've been shipping in about 4,400 calories per day per person into the Gaza Strip in the

middle of a war in which the enemy is holding actual Israeli hostages underground, who as we've seen from some of the pictures are actually starving. Go on crazy over there. I think you're being generous. You said he gave you some on the whole topic. He said we don't give them that much money. We give them $3 billion a year. We actually give them close to $4 billion a year. And last year we gave them $18 billion a year. He said they've been shipping in aid. You just played that clip. Israel doesn't ship in any aid.

The aid comes from everyone else. He acts like Israel's giving the aid. It's international aid that Israel decides to switch on and off whenever it wants. But on the genocide question, it's funny that he kind of patronizing and he says, These genocide scholars, they didn't give you the definition, and you rightly said, what's the definition? And he said, forcibly destroying a whole population. That is not the definition of genocide. The 1948 genocide convention gives us the definition of genocide. Article 2, it says very clearly that genocide is any of the following acts with the intent to destroy in whole or in part a national, religious, racial or ethnic group. And one of those acts, killing members of the group, causing serious bodily or mental harm to the group, inflicting conditions of life on a group. that cause its physical destruction, preventing births within that group and taking children

away from that group and giving it to another group. Five conditions. Israel's met at least four of those five conditions by any sane description of what they've done in Gaza. It is a genocide based on those conditions. The Israelis are saying it's a genocide. Just listen to what they say. They say genocide or stuff all the time. And here's the worst part, Israeli, you know, he brushes over the IAGS. Some organization I've never heard of. I'm sure they don't care that he's never heard of them. They are the International Association of Genocide Scholars. But let me just give for your listeners, actual people who say it meets the definition. People like Omar Bartov, who is an Israeli Holocaust historian at Brown, wrote in New York Times Opin, say, It's a Genocide, Emus Goldberg, Israeli Holocaust historians at Hebrew University.

They say it's a genocide in Gaza. Schmole-Liedermann, all these Israeli scholars, Raz Siegel. None of them, by the way, all of them said, we didn't think it was a genocide at the beginning. But we definitely think it's a genocide now. These are Israeli, Jewish experts on the Holocaust. They're saying it's a genocide. Are we supposed to just ignore them? All right, we got more with Medi Hassan.

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Lauren La Rosa is here as well. We're still kicking him with Medea San. Your book, I haven't got a chance to read it yet. You just gave it to me this morning. But it's when, the art of debating every persuading an argument. That's the stupid cover that makes you look. It's actually win every argument. But the way it's written, it looks like that.

That's one of the funny things about the... I don't want to argue, and I don't want to win argument. I just want to learn. So why do you think arguing is the... I mean, you end up doing it anyway, but... Yeah, yeah. You end up doing it anyway, so that's one thing. You can't avoid it.

It's one thing I say, whether you want to avoid an argument. You can't. Therefore, you should be equipped for it. It's a very practical book about skills, debating skills, and arguing skills. But also, I do think arguing gets a bad rap, right? There's bad faith argument, people who argue for the sake of... arguing people who argue without really believing what they're saying. A lot of cable news talking heads that have given argument a bad rap. But argument fundamentally, intrinsically, is about

disagreeing in good faith, trying to come to a conclusion. I would argue that you can't find the truth unless you have a back and forth. We don't want to live in echo chambers where everyone agrees with each other all the time. We should have healthy debate, productive debate. That is how people discover truth, new ideas. I do think democracy requires healthy debate and argument going back to ancient Greece you're having people have that flesh out the issues but it has to be done in good faith what we've done in the US especially

and especially in our cable news world I'm an ex-MS NBC host we have a lot of bad faith argument we have a lot of fake debates and I think that's undermined and this book is about saying you know what arguing can be fun people who do debate club in high school

some kids love doing that because it can be so pure and so raw and so authentic but we've lost that our media has killed what was good faith debate and argument and this book is an attempt to try and bring it back How do you know when you're in a healthy debate, a good faith debate? It's hard.

Sometimes I realize halfway through. I did the Jubilee debate on YouTube, which was insane. I went into that. Obviously, I knew there were going to be some bad faith people. I didn't realize all of them would be insane. Like, I went with like notes and facts and figures, like traditional. All of it was a waste of time. Like these people are not interested in that stuff.

So sometimes you kind of realize it in the middle of it. You know the Supreme Court was once asked, how do you define porn? They were like, you know it when you see it. Right? Like, when you're in the debate, And you know there's a bad... I've interviewed people that I've real... I've interviewed, like, leading politicians

from our government, foreign governments, and halfway through you, you realize, this guy is just not interest. This is just pure bullshit. Yeah, I think the 20v won. That's just entertainment. Like, it can't be in good favor because it's literally designed to be as entertaining as possible.

Well, you say that. But what's interesting, that I'm going to sound partisan. But if you watch all the right wingers who went on it, if you watch Jordan Peterson or Candice Owens, when they go on it, they get a bunch of, like, well-meaning, really earnest young liberals

who are like, oh, but Mr. Peterson, what do you think about this, you know, this argument against God. Like, I go on it and I'm like, get out of our country. And I feel like, I feel like, I'm a fascist. I'm a fascist. Yeah, I'm a fascist.

So I think, I do think, like, there is a real asymmetry in our politics right now, which is where, like, there are a lot of liberals leftists who do want to have, like, a really earnest argument about policy. Like, how do we get Medicare for all? And on the other side, there's like, how do we get rid of all the black and brown people? And it's not the same thing. I know the media loves to treat it as like, both sides. The far left and the far right.

The far left wants universal health care. The far right. wants Nazism. That's not the same thing. When you jump into those debates, you know, there's so much misinformation out there. They really believe some of the stuff sometimes. And some of the times, which makes it horrible, and some of these news programs report misinformation like it's right.

So how do you debate somebody that is getting misinformation that believes they are totally right? We see it all the time. We see it up here all the time as well. So here's my thing. When I debate a lot of those people, I'm not trying to change their minds. I'm trying to change the audience.

I'm always got my eye on the third agent in the room or not in the room at home watching on YouTube. And I think sometimes we get lost in, like, I'm going to change your mind. When I go on with some of these freaks and ghouls on Pierce Morgan's show to come to defend the genocide, I'm not trying to change their mind. I'm not going to change the mind of someone who's defending a genocide two years in, right? That person is a lost cause, morally and politically. What I am trying to do is get some people in the middle who may have accidentally come across this show or debate

while they were surfing on YouTube, and maybe they're open-minded to say, oh, I didn't know that. I didn't hear that particular argument. I never heard the humanisation of these people I just see as insurgents or militants or terrorists. So my goal is always And the first chapter of my book is Win Over an audience The audience is key

It's not about you and the other person It is about the watching audience Because I want to change people's minds That's what I do what I do Otherwise as you say It's just entertainment If you're not actually having That's a different perspective

Than I think a lot of people Because I think a lot of people Do focus on the audience But they focus on the audience Because they want an Amen corner As opposed to actually trying to teach them Yeah And I find that sometimes boring

I go to events And the whole audience agrees with me It's nice It's good for the ego Everyone's applauding everything But it's not I much prefer having an audience. That's why you do people like, why do you go on

Pierce Morgan show, it's this, I was like it. Whether you like it or not, you reach a huge audience of people who don't agree with you around the world and that is an opportunity. Now, there's a, there's a line like I don't, I don't, I know you go on Fox, I don't go on Fox, I wouldn't go on Fox. Why not? Because we're sure, though. The reason I think you should is that I think, look, look how effective President Obama was when he went on there. Think about how effective Stuart was when he goes on it. Think about Gavin Luce and Pete Buttigieg. Mehdi, you absolutely should be done. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why I can go.

Do the Jubilee, but not. I mean, would I do the Jubilee again, though? That's the issue. So the thing is that Jubilee, like, I have a basic standard, which is, like, you asked about debating and how do you know about, like, I won't debate fascist, white supremacy. People say, oh, you should interview Marjorie Taylor Green. I'm like, the woman is, you know, she thinks the Rothschild lasers calls fires. Like, she's, she has weird QAnon conspiracy theories. She's an anti-vaxxer. She's a climate denies. Like, I don't think there is value in debating Holocaust denies, climate change denies, election denies. It's just pointless, right? I'm not going to debate is up down, is

cold, hot is black, white. I just don't think there's value that. You never been in a black barbershop in the hood? You've hit some of that same. I'm a loyal Korean barbershop. You never talk about black israeli? I've had these debates. I'm just saying they're not valuable. I try and avoid them. But going on Fox, for example,

I get the argument what Democrats make. Like, we should go and reach a new audience. Bernie does a lot of Fox. The problem is the Fox model is not built around education. It simply is built around entertainment, as you say. And also, I do think Fox is an irredeemable company in the sense that it is a force for evil in this world in terms of spreading racism and misogyny and election denial and climate denial. But I don't want

to go on and legitimize them. I know that sounds old-fashioned quaint, but I feel like if I go on there, then I'm treating it like a legitimate news outlet. I don't even call it Fox News. I call it Fox. It's not a news outlet. I mean, they paid billions of dollars. They pay hundreds of million dollars in settlement to Dominion. They are a propaganda outlet for the Republican Party and for MAGA. So for me, I just don't see the value. And by the way, that people who go on, you can go on and do a great job on Lara Trump. Problem is, for the next 23 hours, they undermine everything you said in that one hour. So it doesn't really have an enduring factor, which is why when you poll Fox viewers, they are so misinformed, no matter how many Charlemains, Pete Buttigiegs, or

Bernies go on. But then when I'm out in the street, I see the real reaction. You know what I mean? I don't see the propaganda that's being pushed or the message or not if they're trying to push. Actual people come up to me and be like, hey, man, I'm a lot farther right than you, but I appreciate a lot of the things that you say. You know, do you think mainstream journalism in the U.S. have gotten too cozy with power? I would dispute the premise of your question, gotten too cozy with power. It's always been cozy. When was it not cozy with power? Right now we're in a different situation, which is we have media outlets joining up with a fascistic government.

That's a whole different ballgame. But in general, the U.S. media has always been too cozy with power. Never really taken an adversarial position against the people in power. Journalism should be adversarial journalism. Should be challenging the people in power. should be, you know, what's the line, afflicting the comfortable and comforting the afflicted. And we've really not done that in the US. When I moved here in 2016, one of the reasons people got to know me was because I do tough interviews. And people were saying to me on the street, like, you're that guy who did that interview with Eric Prince. I can't believe how. And then I went to MSNBC and I started doing those interviews. And luckily, some other people started following me.

And now I think interviewing has improved a bit on cable. But in general, for example, we don't do tough interviews in this country with people in power. It is, you watch some of the Sunday morning interviews. It's very, very friendly. Like I saw one the other day where Marco Rubio just said some absolute BS and Margaret Brennan said, thank you for joining us. And it's like, where's the follow-up? So I do think that is a problem,

especially our interviews are not adversarial enough. All right, we got more with Medi Hassan. When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV, Jess Hilaris. Sholomey and the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Medi Hassan. Lauren? What do you think will emerge as like the leading place

in media? Because it's not cable news, anymore, YouTube and online, it's like you got to know who you listening to, whether it's factual. Misinformation, yeah. Yeah, like, what will be that one, like, go-to here's where we know we can trust that will emerge out of all of this mess? I mean, the shameless small business of me says Zateo, come to my media side. But the serious answer is, I don't think we can predict.

I think anyone who tells you they know what the media looks like in three, four, five years time is either a liar or four. I mean, none of us could have even seen where we are today, three or four years ago. I don't think if you had said before the 2024 election, that the big question's going to be, did Kamala Harris go on Rogan? If you'd said that in 2020, people laughed in your face. If you'd said 10 years ago, the guy from Home Alone too would be President of United States, people are laughed in your face.

So I don't think anyone can predict where it's going. What I can say is obviously YouTube is a dominant force right now. Jubilee is a classic example of that. You talk about people, the number of young people, I was on a college campus last night. All the college students had really never seen me in anything except Jubilee. They were like, you're the guy from that circle debate. So the YouTube power, especially for young people, is massive. obviously that's a problem because it's owned by Google

and Google has its own agenda which ain't always great when it comes to misinformation you just saw the heads of Google and Microsoft and Facebook and meta all sitting around the table with Donald Trump lavishing praise on him just the other night so it's not great that these big tech corporations control so much of our discourse but that's the world we're in right now

I definitely want the record to show that in February 2024 I absolutely told the vice president she needed to go on Rogan and she needed to start going on Fox News because my thinking was Joe Biden is not going to win this election in November unless you start getting out more in the forefront and showing people who you are so at least they feel like

well maybe I can vote for her on a ticket this was way before she even became a nominee or this was February 24th Have you seen the extract in the Atlantic today from my book? I did I was glad you about that she's saying that she's basically saying what you're saying she's like I tried to get out there they should have realized that putting me out there

would help them look like they've got a succession plan that they have confidence in me and they didn't right they've no daylight no daylight and she by the way she I need to read the whole thing I need to read our whole book, but like, she has to answer why she didn't just say, Oh, get lost, I'm doing my thing. I can't wait to read it. I want to read you something from that expert that came out today.

She says, I gave a strong speech on the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Desperate people have been shot when they swarmed a food truck. And I spoke of families reduced to eating leaves or animal feed, women prematurely giving birth with little or no medical care and children dying from mild nutrition, dehydration. I reiterated my strong support for Israel's security and called on Hamas to release the hostages and accept the ceasefire agreement then on the table. I also called on Israel for greater access to aid. It was a speech that had been vetted and approved

by the White House and the National Security Council and went viral and the West Wing was displeased. I was castigated for apparently delivering it too well. What do you think when you hear that? So I think two things. Number one, I think the Joe Biden administration will forever be complicit in a genocide. The genocide would not have happened

had Biden not hug Netanyahu clothes given him pretty much everything he wanted. We rightly castigate Trump right now, but we have to remember this began on Joe Biden's watch at any time he could have pulled the plug on the whole thing he could have called that and the eye said end it now it's over he did not do that he had multiple opportunities did not do that harris here's a second point i think harris would have been better on gaza than biden i think harris definitely would have been better on gaza than trump but it's very hard to persuade people

especially my palestinian friends will say no way she was up to it up to a neck in it with i do think that like that speech and other little things she did were signals that she would be better on it i had people in the white house who were on her side were telling me at the time Harris is definitely better than Biden although the bar is low. It's not hard to be better than Biden on Gaza. The problem is she didn't do it, right? She didn't take that opportunity and

she, you know, we'll never know right, it's one of the great counterfactuals. Would Israel be bombing Qatar and Iran and ethnic cleansing now if Kamala Harris was president? We'll never know because she didn't take the opportunity to, you know, politely throw Joe Biden under the bus. She went on the view. For me, the day I knew she lost that election when she went on the

view and they say, what would you do differently to Joe Biden? She says, nothing. I'm not even saying Gaza. I'm not even saying she should have come out and be like, I'm going to recognize a Palestinian state and I'm going to stop now. Just anything. Health care. The economy. Immigration. Nothing. Right. It's a change election.

People want change. People aren't happy with America. All the polling told us people were dissatisfied with the economy. Disatisfied with the directory. You come in and you go, I'm going to take it from Joe Biden, but it's going to be the same. That is insanity. Whoever is advising I should never work in politics again. I know they're all trying to rehabilitate their careers.

That was an insane electoral strategy. I agree. It's my opinion that, I don't know what's going to happen for her in the future, but what I like about what she's writing in this book, to your point, and I've been saying it over and over, whoever is going to lead the Democratic Party in the future, you have to throw the Biden administration under the bus. You have to. I think you have to throw all of the previous Democrats under the bus. Yes, I agree. The whole old regime, everybody. I mean, we're talking about Epstein right now. I mean, Bill Clinton is in the book, right? He's in the birthday book. Gillane was at all the family events hanging out with Chelsea and Rest. I mean,

All of them got to go. I mean, Donald Trump won in 2016 when he took on the entire Republican establishment. Let's not forget how he won. In 2016, I remember watching a debate. I was sitting on my couch, right? He was a debate in 2050. And he goes on TV and he says, he says to Jeb Bush, he goes, well, the Twin Tows came down under your brother. Oh, he didn't just say that.

To a Republican crowd. Instead of getting booed, he gets booed by a few people. Crowd cheer. His polling goes up, right? He throws the bushes under the bus happily, blames them for Iraq, 9-11, even though Trump supported the Iraq war. But he throws them all on. the bus, right? You have to be able to, the Democratic Convention last year had Clinton and Obama and Hillary still speaking. Get rid of these people. People are done. Whether you think

they were good or bad presidents and they all had pros and cons, Clinton, Obama, Biden. They all did good things and bad things. Move on. You've got to be forward-looking. We're here in New York. You have a candidate who's forward-looking. Stop living in the past. Why is Bill Clinton, a man who hasn't been president for 25 years speaking at the DNC? Why? What you said is so profound just now, and I'm going to tell you why. 2016 that's exactly what Trump did but Trump was also an outsider we know nobody in the Democratic Party is going to do that

I love a lot of these people I love Governor Josh Piro I like what's more They all have red lines They're not going to do that That's why it has to be somebody like a John Stewart It has to be an outsider I agree They're the only ones that's going to throw them under the bus

I agree outside or kind of fresh blood To go back to a Mamdani who is within the party But has the guts to take on the establishment I mean John Stewart obviously you and I are big fans of John Stewart And running I wrote a piece saying he should throw his hat in the ring. I'm not saying he's going to be the best president or he should be president. I'm saying the Democratic presidential primary debates

could do with a John Stewart on stage throwing some fireworks and hand grenades in. Do you believe in Democrats moving forward? The Big D Democratic Party? Not under the leadership of the current folks, no. I've openly said that Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer should go. They need to stand down. They are not.

As you called him, Apak Shakur is not the man for this moment. they are ludicrous in their interventions they both keep saying oh we need a strongly worded letter I'm not even making that up that's not me being sarcastic they've literally on the record saying the AG of DC did a really good letter

Chuck Schumer's like I wrote a really good letter about Harvard like this is not the time for letters right American democracy is on the line we may not have a free and fair election in 2028 and these two guys are pining for a golden age of bipartisan politics that never existed and certainly doesn't exist right now we need people who are going to fight

And I say this, not as a big D Democrat, I'm not a Democrat, a small D Democrat. Someone who believes in democracy wants my kids to grow up in a Democratic America. We only have two parties. So the opposition party has to do the fighting for us. These people don't fight. Nobody believes that Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries are fighters. But there are the Democrats who can. Just, as you say, they're too scared to challenge.

Who are the people that become like the voice or like the, you know, like you have like people that you point to that. They do have a fight? Yeah, they do have the fight. There are Democrats who fight. But who, so if I'm, I mean, there are obvious people like the AOCs of this. world, the Ilhan Omar's, the Rashida Tillavs, and the squad who are very outspoken. But there are other people. There's Jasmine Crockett's got a big following now. She's been very outspoken from Texas. In the Senate, there's people like Chris Van Holland of Maryland

who went to El Salvador when apparently Hakeem Jeffries was telling Democrats, don't go to El Salvador, it's unpopular issue. Chris Van Holland went to El Salvador and got Kilmart Abrago Garcia back. He came back because of people like Chris Van Van Holland going out there and picking that fight. So I think there are Democrats who are willing to speak out on some issues. Jamie Raskin is always very strong on constitutional issues. There are a bunch of them, but they just don't have leadership roles

because Democrats are in this kind of... Why, Chuck Schumer lost the Senate. He should have resigned the next day. Like, you lose an election, you should stand down. We live in a country where you lose an election. On the Democratic side, you don't stand down. On the Republican side, you say you won. Like, we need to get back to, you lose, you quit,

you move on with your life, build a library, whatever it is. All right, well... Mehdi Hassan. We'll pick out the book. Win every argument, the art of debating, persuading, and public speaking. And thank you for joining us. Subscribe to the network. Thank you so much.

Detail.com. Hey, don't be a stranger, man. Pull up anytime you want. Whenever I'm in New York, I'll drop you a line. All right. It's Mehdi Hassan. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer. And my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer

walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit. different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. On 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called

Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Power struggles, shady money, drugs, violence, and broken promises. It's a freaking war zone. These people are animal. There's no integrity. There's no loyalty.

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Sometimes you have a little bit everything Well it's the latest On the breakfast club So whoopi Goldberg is making headlines She always does But this time it's about her money And her retirement So entertainment tonight

Was on set of the view They pulled up because the view Just came back for their new season Season 29 on ABC And they were having a conversation About returning and all of the things And they asked Whoopi Goldberg

and joy about retirement because they're getting older and they've been doing this for some time. Let's take a listen. Do you ever think about just retiring and enjoying it all or are you? There's no such, you know, creative people don't really retire. Do you ever think about going down to join this? Yeah, but who can afford to do that? Who can afford to start? You know, if you don't marry well, you got to keep working.

Like you might be one of the people that could afford it by now. No, not by now. Not yet. Whoopi, I got, who you should be kicked up. So that is the conversation. So when this video went live, so this video went live or whatever, and people begin to have a conversation about, number one, the fact that would be should have money to the point where she can retire at this point. And again, we don't know. She seems serious in the video.

There wasn't like a joke after her. I watched it as well. Her facial expressions were very serious. But also the fact that her tone on retirement and Joy's tone are very different. Joy seems like she wants to keep working because, you know, it just fulfills her and she's a creative. Whoopies like, I got bills to pay. can't afford to retire. So the conversation about pay disparity. You know, they say retirement is retirement's not an age, it's an income. Yeah. Yeah. So, yes. I think what we got it,

she probably was just being funny. I think she's being funny. Also, it's a feeling too, right? Like, I look at my mother and my pops, right? And they both retired. They've been retired for a while now. And they enjoy retirement. And I'm happy for them. Like, I'm happy that they're happy. But myself, if I take too many days off, I feel like I'm not working. I feel like I need to do something. You know what I mean? That's just me personally. I feel like I just have to do something. You know, whatever that may be. Like, even me being sick right now, and I'm not home. And y'all act like, I don't want to be at work.

I want to be there. I feel like I should be there. I can't wait to show y'all how I can't wait to do nothing. Don't worry. I'm going to show y'all soon. But you want to retire? Listen, I cannot wait to show y'all how much I enjoy doing nothing. But doing nothing.

You just wait. You say that now. Always remember retirement is not an age. It's an income. Yeah, no, I agree. But sometimes you feel like, well, I just speak for my. I just feel like even like even when I'm on vacation my I'm I'm I'm fidgety and maybe that's because I've been grinding since 16 and I don't know anything else to do but to do ready to sit down but I'm not ready to sit down but I admire my parents like when my parents say you know what I'm going to the casino on a Tuesday at 5 o'clock just because they want to them but I was going to say um there are gonna be here I got to wear a damn t-shirt that's so sick you stay your ass right where you at okay you should have a mask I want you to wear a mask over Zoom to be honest with you. Hey. I was going to say

So reportedly The host of the view Make anywhere between $5 million To $8 million Their yearly salary So I mean Whoopi should be fine But this was as of 2016

But this is where it's being reported As of right now And I thought it was more than that To be honest with you That's still a good amount I mean No that's great

Yeah They've done it for so long You know all of them Women up there I thought That it was more than that It would be cake though man She'd be EP in so many different things.

Whoopies, I think she was funny. But you know what people are pointing to, too, back in 2019, Monique did an interview. Remember, Monique was having a conversation about pay disparity. And she talked about a conversation that she had with Whoopi Goldberg about how much she made and basically being okay at what you're making and working toward trying to make more. So people are pointing to that. Let's take a listen to Monique. See, Whoopi Goldberg told me the salary she makes from the view.

And that helped my feelings that you've been there for 10 years and you accept them paying. you vet and you telling me don't worry about the little one coming up damn if I gotta be worried about you too because you accept that salary it makes it hard yeah so people are making this a pay thing she's talking about will be goldberg

yeah remember when Monique was campaigning for everybody to boycott Netflix and all those that you know she was having to pay discrepancy conversation she went into a conversation she said she had will be Goldberg but that came back up because of this discount I'm gonna say we'll be making you it's reported anywhere from 5 million to

8 million a year. Some people are keeping her between 5 and 6, and this is all the host of the view. And they say her network is between 30 and 60. Who am I sitting there counting other people's pockets? Hey, what are you going to be fine? What are you talking about, man? Yeah. Well... She just don't want to sit down yet. That's okay. That's all

it is. Like, what are we talking about? Yeah, and she's young. She's 70. Well, she will be 70 in November. She's young. She's 70. Yeah, and the whole... That's young for us. The whole... I won't marry well. That's clearly a joke. If you don't marry well, you don't marry well, you don't That's a joke.

She's joking. What are you talking about people? Well, in other news, Paul Wall. So Paul Wall sat down with Art of Dialogue, and he's been having some conversations and reflecting on his career. So he was talking about, you know, some big songs and opportunities he almost missed.

He talks about missing the opportunity to get on a ghost face song because he was a huge Wu-Tang fan. And then he also talked about missing the opportunity to get on a Jill Scott song, but then the opportunity coming back around and being too scared to talk nasty to Jill Scott. Let's take a listen.

She was like, man, you know, the song, your verse is cool, but I want you to, oh, I'm gonna you down, I'm gonna pull your hair, I'm gonna, ooh, I want you to fuck the shit out of me on your verse, and I want you to say stuff like that, and I'm like, I don't know, because it's just got, I ain't never heard nobody rap on a speak, I never heard that language on the Joe Scott song. So I'm like, man, the neo-soult community might whoop my ass and I'm on here talking like dad,

you know what I'm saying? My mama might whip my ass, my auntie, they're gonna jump me, they'll on a Jill Scott. My pastor wife might slat the shit out of me. She heard me talk with Wilger on the Jill Scott song. Jill Scott wrote my whole verse for the most part. She wrote my verse. She told me what to say.

The last thing she said was, might sound crazy, but I want you to say, that's what a diamond chip do. And I was like, all right, Paul, that sounds perfect. First of all, Paul Wall, you don't listen to enough Jill Scott. Okay, my wife's two favorite artists are Eric about doing Jill Scott, okay?

You ain't never heard Crown Royal or Nance. You ain't never heard Epiphany, huh? You ain't never heard imagination. You ain't never heard quick. What is your, what are you talking about? You're just being respectable. Yeah, but I don't know why people, people. Bill Scott is sex.

But people do that with Jill Scott. I don't know why people treat her like she's like a gospel artist. I don't know, maybe it's because you feel something spiritually when you hear her music. She knows definitely royalty, so she definitely. She provides the soundtrack to getting bricked up. What are you talking about? Let's listen to the verse that she wrote for a par wall on the song, what my mind says so.

She didn't write the verse for him. Like, she didn't sit there and write it for him. He just said that she ended up having a write. He said that she told him everything to say. She told him what to say, but he wrote the verse. She just directed him. Oh. I can't think of too many, I can't think of too much music that focuses on intimacy.

Stop looking at me. Let's hear it. Let's hear you. Y'all look each other in the eyes. And I know you feel it out in your stomach whenever you arched your back. I'm going to pull your head. I know you love that. When I maneuver this time,

Your eyes roll back I work inside Angus I'm a commercial pro Kitchen table down to the flow As in the end while you're biting that pillow Girl you know how I chop and shit. That's what I want you to do Yeah

Don't play with her Jillie from Philly, man It's just crazy to me when I hear people talk about her like that Put Crown Royal on ice right now I see what happened. I bet you get bricked up just driving in the car. Stop looking at me. You keep looking at me.

Look back at it in me. That's what I'm talking about. Why are you talking about? I guess you. Because I'm a man. Listen. What do you know? Yeah, so talk to the women, not the other men.

Yeah, but I'm talking. I was speaking from my perspective, my Jill Scott and Erica Bado are my wife's favorite artists. But from my perspective, but yes, when you and that Jill Scott is on and them candles is lit and that instance is burning, yeah, buddy. yeah yeah buddy yeah buddy well the song was actually inspired by a relationship that jill scott was she says that she was in and it was purely sexual and it was hard for her to leave so that's why she pushed him so hard on like you gotta talk that talk to me on this song

i'm i'm sound good so i'm waiting for another jill scott project right now when is jill scott giving us some another soundtrack jill ain't dropped in a long time A soundtrack to And when you even think about it, man When you think about people like Jill Scott and Erica Baud do Like their catalogs are incredible But they've only put out like four or five albums apiece

I think Erica might be at Four Jill might be at five I don't know or something like this He are vice versa There's a The root article As we wrap up

There's a root article Five reasons why black men love some Jill Scott Come on now Yeah Charlemagne Hughes Come on now Yes Come on man Drop on a clues by

When the last time they've been on tour? Oh, they're always on talk. Yeah, they're always on the road. Together? I don't know together, but Erica Badu is always on the road. I see them. It's always, those old sugar water festivals that we used to go to back in the day. You know, Scott, Erica Batu, Flower Tree, Queen, Latifah, phenomenal times, man.

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Breakfast Club. Good morning. You're checking out the Breakfast Club. Canelo Alvarez, Terence Crawford, two legends, one ring. And for the first time ever, it's all screaming live on Netflix. Yep, your subscription gets you ringside seats. Watch Canello Alvarez versus Terrence Crawford. Saturday, September 13th at 9 p.m. Eastern, 6 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. Live on Netflix. There is no question that there are problems in this country between police and community yes you are a donkey the latest on that police killing of a black man now to new developments in the deadly spa shooting rampage uh man yesterday it was a really bad day for him and this is what he did and so we are in a state of emergency

okay white supremacist violence is it always have been the number one threat to our society But I'm also very proud that my wife was white. The breakfast club, bitches. All right, Charlie, please tell me why was I your donkey of the day? Donkey of the day for Thursday, September 11th goes to the gun lobbyists, the gun industry, and all the politicians who refuse to pass common sense gun reform in this country. Today is 9-11, the 24-year anniversary of 9-11, and over two decades later, America is still in a state of emergency.

Okay, we are still having constant terrorists. attacks, but the attacks are more frequently coming from within. Okay, it's like we keep repeating ourselves, and things seem to be getting progressively worse. For example, yesterday, three teenagers are in critical condition after a mass shooting at a Colorado high school. Now, I was born in 1978. So I'm old enough to remember the mass shooting that happened in Denver back in 2012 at

the Aurora Theater. That's when James Holmes threw tear gas in the theater and started shooting in the audience. Twelve people killed, 70 injured. 58 of them due to gunfire. You would think a situation like that would lead to some type of massive change in America. But no, I did some research. And by research, I Googled. And the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment website said in a 10-year period,

from 2014 to 2023, Colorado experienced 77 mass shootings in which 103 people were killed and 299 were injured. Guns. Okay. I was on mass. shooting tracker.com. Yes, that is an actual website, mass shooting tracker.com. And in 2025, this year, it has been 356 mass shootings in America, 6,88 mass shootings since January 1st, 2013, and zero days. I repeat, zero since our last mass shooting. Zero days. Now, I am 2A all day. I believe in the right to bear arms, but I also believe in common.

sense gun control but I thought to myself yesterday the term gun control is an oxymoron okay when you think of a gun you have to know the gun industry right you got to think about the gun industry when you think of guns and that's one of the most powerful industries in America is protected by the constitution the gun lobbyists especially the NRA they have significant influence over politicians and guns are worshipped like religion in this country so no matter what the tragedy okay no matter how much blood is spilled no control will ever be placed on guns, as long as those campaign contributions keep coming in

it, keep coming in. Okay, and we use the word control, right? Gun control. Control is something this country will never have, okay? Gun control will never happen in this country, especially when lobbyists, the NRA, are writing the rules. Okay, you put gun

and control together. It sounds good on paper, but in reality, it's like saying, organized chaos, are honest politician. Okay, these politicians won't even be honest with you on why they can't even create legislation to ever get to a point where we have common sense gun reform, but it's never happening in America, people. No, no, no, it is a complete oxymoron to say gun control, okay, gun control in America.

Because America doesn't control guns, guns control America, all right? We treat the Second Amendment like it's one of the Ten Commandments, okay? In America, historically, guns have had more rights than women. immigrants, the LGBTQ, and black people combined, okay? And the reason we need gun control is because people clearly have no self-control. I agree with anyone who says guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people. And since those people don't have any discipline or any self-control, that's why we need gun control. Okay, common sense, gun reform that can protect us all.

And every time there is a mass shooting or a tragic shooting, we should absolutely be. blame the gun lobbyists in the gun industry. I was reading a great article that was published last year. It was on a website called Everytown for Gun Safety. And the headline was how the gun lobbyists and the gun industry fan the flames of extremist ideology. And it spoke to how in recent years political extremism and extremist violence in the United States have risen at an alarming rate.

Okay, many extremity guns is the most effective tools for their violent aims and lacks gun laws in the U.S. often able these extremists to access firearms. We saw that play out yesterday when we witnessed the murder of right-wing political activist Charlie Kirk. Okay, he was shot and killed while speaking at Utah Valley

University. Of course, immediately, people start politicizing his death. The right is blaming the left, saying their rhetoric about the right is what led to this. The right is blaming the left saying their rhetoric is what led to this, and we don't even have the person who did this in custody.

We don't know what this person's issue is or was with Charlie Kirk. Everybody is just assuming this is political violence, and it quite possibly is. As a matter of fact, I'm sure it is, but you know what else it is? Gun violence. Okay, these nut jobs who don't believe in freedom of speech clearly believe in their right to bear arms. And because of the lax gun laws in America, they are able to get firearms to carry out these violent acts. Now, let the record show. When I heard what happened to Charlie Kirk yesterday, I immediately felt fear.

Okay, I was afraid. I'm a black man in America. I think about getting shot every day. But guess what? Every American should think about getting shot every day when you are out and about in a public place simply because it's been zero days since the mass shooting happened in this country.

But my personal fear was also because I'm a media personality. I don't want to live in a country where media personalities are being shot and killed for their opinions or what they believe. But I also know that as much as we like to point to the First Amendment and say we all have freedom of speech. We are not free from the consequences of

said speech. That's why mindfulness of what we say is very important because there is a cost to everything that comes out of our mouth and unfortunately we don't get to set the price. And I must say, Charlie Kirk understood the price of our freedoms more than most. I was watching this clip of him go viral

yesterday. Can we play it? You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death. That is nonsense. It's drivel. but I am I think it's I think it's worth it I think it's worth to have a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights that is a prudent deal it is rational now he's absolutely right because of the way the Constitution is construction because we have no common sense gun laws in this country these high gun deaths will happen every single year it is a consequence of the right to bear arms just like we don't get get to determine the consequences of our free speech. We also don't get to determine the consequences of everyone having the right to bear arms in this country. I just wonder when people say things like Charlie Kirk said, play the clip again, right? You will never live in a society when you

have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death. That is nonsense. It's dribble. But I am, I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. I just wonder when people say things like that, do they think they may be one of those deaths? Is it worth it when one of those casualties is you are someone you love? To protect the rights given to us by the Constitution, if they believe they too could be one of those deaths, And they're cool with that, I respect it.

So I guess you honor Charlie Kirk by buying more guns based on that logic. Yeah, but I don't know about y'all. That sounds kind of ridiculous to me. See, even if Charlie Kirk had a gun yesterday, it wouldn't have protected him. When somebody got the drop on you, they got you. Only thing that could have saved Charlie Kirk yesterday was keeping guns out of the hands of violent excremists like the person who killed him. And the only way to do that is with common sense gun reform. I believe we can find a way to protect our Second Amendment rights

while also having some type of common sense gun reform that keeps the guns out of the nut jobs hands who want to exercise their right to bear arms to kill those of us who want to exercise our freedom of speech. Please give the gun lobbyists, the gun industry, and politicians who refuse to create common sense gun reform the biggest he-ha. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey of the day.

That was tight. Mm-hmm. That was dope. Thank you, ma'am. Mm-hmm. Up next, Jess Fix My Mess. 800-585-1051. Jess, there's a lady on the line right now.

When we come back, we'll answer it. She says she wants advice on how to deal with her family who makes fun of her weight. She says she has a huge eating problem. And her comments hurt her feelings. And their comments hurt her feelings? Yes, ma'am. You know, we also need portion control in this country, but that's a whole other conversation. We'll talk to Pauline next to you.

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I don't, like, have, like, formal events. I don't call my mom and tell her what I'm wearing because usually you want to show your mom what you're wearing, but all she wants to do is just laugh about it and stuff. And I told her because she stopped, but she won't stop. And it's like, it's affected our relationship at some point. Like, she used to call me, like, what are you wearing and stuff? And I'm like, I don't feel comfortable telling you at all.

Because she started to lose weight because that's how I'm a time of time. metabolism. Me, I can't help it. It's literally genetic. Obesity runs in my dad's side. And even though now I'm on ombic and stuff, she will never stop. And it's like, it's made me suicidal at some point. And she knows, but she doesn't care. She just told me that you did it to yourself.

Damn. Okay. You said you're 24? Yeah. Although you're saying, you know, I do understand obesity runs in your family, but it doesn't really, it doesn't sound like you're helping that. either you know what i mean eating have you ever have you ever went to therapy because if you have a binging yeah i am in therapy okay it's like nothing's does it work do you like them so that's

yeah i do i've actually been in therapy for five years now because of it and he knows about it what are you stressed out about financially um i'm the oldest in my family my parents are both immigrants who came here you know i try to you know he's Be the perfect daughter they always want it, even though I can't always be, but I try my best, you know. And it's not easy. I have a 20-year-old sister and a 7-year-old brother. It's not easy trying to be the oldest and not.

Basically, yeah, like, I pay for all the streaming services. I help my mom. I will help Wi-Fi. I don't even live with my mom. I pay the bills at my house with my dad. And, like, right now I got injured at work, and my job don't want to take any back because I got injured. You have a lot going on, y'all

Can I ask a question, Jess? Yeah, please. How much do you weigh? Right now, I weigh about 175. That's not big. That's not big. How tall are you? All right, no, no, no, no.

What's your height? How short are you? I'm 5, too. I'm 5, too. Eh, that still ain't that big. You're all right. You're good. Well, I have African parents.

What does that mean? You're a funny person. And see, this is what got me so mad about you. As soon as I laughed earlier, you snapped on me. Why you can't snap on your mama? Okay? that's just this is you African

she's black African and Muslim All I hear is great jokes I hear mad jokes Yeah But yeah I mean if you are sorry I want to laugh at you You gotta respect your parents

Yeah you got a lot going on though You know what I mean I do understand you do have a lot going on though You gotta figure that shit out It's a lot going on Just be on radio you can't curse Like I know it feels like you're at home right now But you can't curse

Oh, my baby, my baby, my baby. Yeah, it's a lot going on with you. You can get that together. I don't know if you're joking, if you're for real. I don't want to laugh if you're for real. No, but I also don't want you to waste my time if you're playing. My sister warns me. Like, she'll call me on the phone and be like,

mom was just talking about, like, how your gut was looking a little bit. And, like, yeah, yeah. I mean, well, look, work out. Work out. I do. I do work out. I do. I do what I mean.

No, I mean, for real. Stop line. For real. No, I swear to God, I do. I go to both gym. I don't play with that. But I also got a total of potato cups so kind of, yeah, I got a ton of a caterer of so it kind of set me back to my workout a little bit.

Jess, you know what we need to do? We need to have her send us a picture of her mama, and we just need to write some and we're going to write five good things that reply back to your mama whenever she called you fat. Okay, it seems like she already got that down low key, but yeah. She's skinny? She's skinny. So she looked like a spirit.

Oh, all right Paulina And by the way I need this Can I say one thing Okay What I mean Your book

I think it was like Shock on me or something It honestly Shook on me It honestly saved my best friend's life Oh wow His name is Taylor He's in the military and stuff

But it saved his life Man that's a blessing Send him my love please Hold on We'll get your email So they can send you some jokes To go at your mother I'm not

You know, I'm not playing. Y'all, I'm scared of my mom. And I'm on my way to her house right now. That's who I'm flying to. Well, I hope you lost a little bit more weight than you did when you last saw. Damn. You're going to get in your head. Oh, it's Texas.

I'm going to Texas. It's hot. I know when I get off that plane, I'm going to drop 10 pounds. Damn. All right, Paulina. Hold on. Bye. Wow.

I don't know if you fixed a mess, Jess. I don't know if you fixed it. She ain't ever had no mess. That girl playing. Yeah, she just needed somebody to talk to. Get it off your chest. 800. Oh, get it off your chest.

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X about me. Your coworker need to beat your ass. Call it up. It's Dr. Jess, and I'm here to fix your mess. It's getting very much messy. Let me fix it. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV.

Just hilarious. Salomey the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're in the middle of Just Fix My Mess. We have Dominique on the line. Dominique, good morning. So, number one. I love all of y'all.

Number two, me and Charlomaine have the same birthday. So shout out, Salomein. So, cancer's in the building. Number three, Jess, you were holding it down for Baltimore. Perth, Baltimore is so proud of you.

So thank you. Thank you, baby. Thank you. But let's just put the pen on it. I've been with this guy for 13 years. We have two kids. We had two houses.

We had three cars. And I think the only reason why I'm not getting the ring, is because he doesn't have the money to buy the rain. Now, I, as a woman, I'm thinking like, you can get out of there, but I love him and I love our family. I love our dynamic. I mean, he's a tourist.

I'm a cancer. So, you know, earth and water make brick. And so I'm just wondering how long do I say, if I've been building this brick for 13 years, we've got a mansion now. So when do I get the key, you know? Right, but look, this is the thing. congratulations on staying together that long

and then having a beautiful family as you speak of and all that, but you think with a mansion and three cars and all of this that he don't have the money to get the ring, how the hell wouldn't he had the money to get the ring if y'all live in a mansion?

Word. Yeah, you see like the brand. The mask is never mapping, but at the end of the day, the mask does come out some type of way. What? Okay.

This is why I need to be getting deported, man. They're sick of us. They're tired of. I don't understand. I don't understand, babe. Like, what is the problem? What is the problem? Have you talked to him about it?

Yo, like, I want to get married. What's up? We've been together for 13 years. I have. I said, let's go to the courthouse. Let's do this. Let's do that. And what he said?

It's a lot of circuits. That, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. You know, a lot of shit. That's what, do he say that-da-da-da-da-da-da. that is that what he said like give me what does he say to you no I don't want to make I don't want to get married does he say uh marriage what is marriage you going to do like we I like how we've been rocking and rolling for 13 years what is he saying those things those exact things

hmm okay well then you don't want to get married boo got it thank you and let me is that sure yeah is that your deal breaker after 13 years I mean you waited this long You might as well just stay and not be married. But if that's what you really want, you know, you obviously, that's not, you know, you can't be with him. That's not your one. But you waited so long. What is, I mean, don't matter now, right? 13 years.

It really don't. There's no sweat off my bag. Get on my phone. Damn. Get off my phone. That's what to let everybody know. Jess told me to hang up on it. I didn't hang up on anybody.

Just gave me the key to the clue to hang up on it. So I hung up on it. Right. But it's like, was I wrong? No, you wasn't. I don't think I'm wrong when I hang about people here. Just fix my mess or maybe not. 800-5-85-105.1.

When we come back, we got the latest with Lauren. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess Salarious. Shalami and the guy.

We are the Breakfast Club. Now, this weekend, Jess Alaris is going to be in Cleveland doing her comedy show. Cleveland, Ohio. I've never been to Cleveland. Cleveland, Ohio. Yeah, I know, right.

He definitely said Cleveland. Cleveland, Ohio at the Funny Bone. We got four shows in total. I got two shows tomorrow on Friday, two shows on Saturday. If you have not got your tickets yet, they are on the website, and there's still some available for both nights, actually, Jess Lurias Official.com. All right. Now, my daughter's boyfriend's going, her family's going, so make sure you take care of him.

His family, yes. Okay, I got them. I got them. Now, yo, how many of them is it? Four. In Mexican, right? Because I know they've reached. trying to travel in packs no they

there's four of them oh it's four okay oh yeah that's not bad all right cool that's fine they're not Mexican anyway but let's get to the latest with Lauren becoming a straight fat she gets them from somebody that knows somebody she gets the detail I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything she'd be having the latest on this

the latest with Lauren La Rosa sometimes she has facts sometimes you have details sometimes you have a little bit everything well it's the latest on the breakfast club Talk to me. So G. Herbo is weighing in on the National Guard in their presence, potentially coming to

Chicago. He was caught in the airport by TMZ who asked him about, you know, everything that could potentially be happening over in Chicago with the National Guard. Here's what he had to say. Let's take a listen. There's a lot of politics in this, but now Trump's threatening to send the National Guard to Chicago. That's your city.

What do you feel about this? People are safe, man. Whatever you need to do to keep the kids safe and the women. So you give it a thumbs up? There's a lot of people. Never going to keep us safe and clean the streets, man. I'm all for it. Okay, wow.

You know what? Make sure the babies get home, man. Hey, you know what? That's all I care about, man. There was a lot of people, like, even like, gangsters posting and stuff on social media saying, like, I dare I'm just sending them will for. I'm a tax-paying citizen, man. I just want everybody to get home safe. Yeah, and I saw some reports that the mayor there, Mayor Brandon Johnson, had released some statements saying that they're still left in the dark.

They don't know what the plan is. There's been no conversation about coordinating with them at all. So people are starting to weigh in, like G. Herbo and, you know, people that are trying to figure out what should be done in Chicago. But that debate has been really big about whether they should come or not. I really knows what's going on. I think somebody just stopped him in the middle of his traveling and asked him, and he answered with, yeah, I just want to keep Chicago safe. I don't think he knows the particulars of what he means when they send the troops in. I know they're tearing G. Herobo ass up online for that, but the reality, the situation is, I'm, like you just said, I'm sure he doesn't understand what happened in the military on the streets.

The mayor don't even know what's happening. So, yeah. no the mayor definitely knows there's a reason the mayor doesn't want the military in Chicago he knows just like Governor J.B. Pritzel knows I was listening to the weekly show this morning with Governor Pritz and John Stewart. They know G. Herbo actually

he has no idea with him. I'm sure he was recording records. I'm sure he don't really know what's going on outside of his recording. So when they stop people like that, it's kind of like he gave the answer of I want to keep Chicago safe. Yeah, but I do think though that you know, for the people that are even having a conversation right now about what should and shouldn't happen

and what his intention was that he just wants to see Chicago safe. He's not agreeing or disagreeing, even if he doesn't know. He just meant that he wants Chicago safe. He's from there, his family's there. No, y'all say he don't know what he's talking about. I'm just saying what I think his intention was. Y'all didn't say that.

Y'all didn't speak to that. No, y'all did not. What do we arguing about right now? Let's go to the next story. First of all, this is my hair. I didn't say nothing about that. Oh, because this is all mine. Envy, I know you ain't talking about hair.

I don't say nothing. I know. Take the hat off. Yeah, you ain't die today. I take your hat off. I don't have. Because that Bob new air. I don't know.

First of all, the Bob is Bobbing and she's angled. This is Angolina. Take up fit it off. Make sure you get the angles. Okay. Yeah, don't. Don't. This is not a wig.

But speaking of wigs, Portia Williams, you know, Porsche has go-necked hair. Thank you to Charlene for getting me some hair. So Portia Williams has won again in her divorce case. So y'all saw the video that Portia posted when she was walking to the plane and she was playing the Destiny Shot song. Ain't no feeling like being. free? Or the jet? Yes. No, I haven't seen it. Where is that? Ain't no way you ain't seen that video.

Portia looked good being free, okay? She is free. All right. Yes. She does look good. Yeah, so we have been reporting on the divorce between her and Simon Guadria. And Simon had said a while ago, he had told us that he planned to appeal and because he doesn't think that what she was awarded was fair. The judge has ruled that he is, that the judge is not want to even hear Simon's appeal. So at this point, Portia has won again in this divorce reporting. Yeah.

She's flying a PJ too, right? She's flying private. Yeah. And then she kept, she did another swipe through Miss, well, he called her Miss 265 days and then she owned it. So she posted again,

signed Miss 265 days. And he's referring to, remember when she was talking about volunteering and she said she, it was an old housewives clip. And she said she, you know how many years was, I mean, how many days was in a year?

Yeah. She said, 65 days. She knows how much money's in her bank account though. Period. Okay. One thing she do know how to do is count and be free because she looked good. Period. Yeah. So that's update. And I did reach out because there was an attorney that we were talking to when I was doing all of the exclusive breakdowns on the divorce and what Portia God and all the things. That attorney had said that, you know, Simon wasn't paying her at the time. I reached out to see what the update there was because she was trying to get her money from Simon for the work that she put in on his divorce. And she has not responded to me. But, you know, Hopefully I have an update on whether he's cleared that debt with his attorney or not. That's it. That's all we got in the latest.

All right. Well, that is the latest with Lauren. Salute to our ludicrous. Today is ludicrous's birthday. Okay, Luda. Salute to my Virgil, brother. We're going to get some Lutocris on in the mix. Happy born day, Luda.

So you can make a request. It's a lot of Vergo. It's a whole era, too. Huh? Who? What do you say? Luda was a whole era, too. Like, that was a whole, he never missed neither.

Mm-mm. Tarraji's birthday is today, too. So Slute Taraji. I don't know why I felt like Taraji was like a Scorpio or a Sag. Bergo! Her energy gives Sad to Scorpio. Two Chains is tomorrow, so you make sure you get that two chains mix ready. I got two chains.

And make sure y'all go out there and pre-order Tuchin's debut memoir. The voice in your head is God, which will be out March 3rd, 2026, courtesy of Black Privile Publishing, Simon and Shuster. Yes. Slute all the Virgos. Knaz is a Virgo, Swiss Beetz is Virgo, myself. Two Chains, Luda. Yourself. Myself, yes, me, that's me.

I think about you. You think about me all the time. Man, Envy. What's some clowns. Hey, yo, did you all see Lizzo and Big Extra Plug online? They look good yesterday during the Lord dance. You all I see that? Yeah, I saw it.

Yes, I saw it. What? Nothing. Mix us up next to keep your best. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. You're checking out the Breakfast Club. Everyone to try an Olympic and Paralympic sport.

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argument, the art of debating, persuading, and public speaking. Salute to him for joining us. Yeah, go check out that conversation online, man. Mm-hmm. And when we come back, we got the positive notice, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody, is D.E.J. N.V., Jess Hilary, Sholomaine, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Don't forget this weekend, our very old Jess Hilaris will be out in Cleveland, Ohio.

Absolutely. I got four shows at the Funny Bone, y'all. So get your tickets if you haven't yet, Jesselarius official.com. And I will not be doing meet and greet, but it's all good. It's going to be two funny shows on Friday and two funny shows on Saturday. And shout out the Real 106.1. Can't wait to get in the city, y'all. Can't wait to see you, Cleveland. All right. Well, Shalerman, you got a positive note? Yes, the positive note is simply this. Those who cannot adjust the change will be swept aside by it.

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