The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Chris Rock Reflects On 'Bring The Pain', Forgiveness, Regrets + More + Grandmaster Flash & Dr. Puma Interview 

Episode Date: October 5, 2026

Today on The Breakfast Club, Grandmaster Flash Talks New Book 'Birth of a Culture', History of Hip Hop, Quick Mix Theory, Al. And Dr. Puma Talks Heart Health, U.S.  Healthcare & Insurance Issues, Life Expectancy & Good Practices, Mental Wealth Expo. Plus, Charlamagne Tha God Gives Donkey of The Day To ‘BMF’ Actor Da'Vinchi Who Sparks Backlash After His Comments On Slavery: ‘It’s Time To Move On...’Listen for more. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Good morning. Good morning. How you feeling, Jess? Feel good. I feel good. Listen, I know that Lauren use her own headphones. Breathe, breathe. Exactly.

Bell rode you. You know what I just ran up here. I just ran up here. Yeah. But I know she used her own headphones. So, yo, who will be using my headphones is mad waxy. Every time I come back, that dish is so nasty to me. That's why I don't have it in.

I'm just listening or whatever. But, like, yo. That's gross. Go boil them. Bull of them is a wall Right. No, I can't do that. It's not going to work, yo.

But anyway, I just need a new pet headphones because I know they're not, Lawrence, because Lauren's always got hers, huh? Oh, don't the tips of that comes off, so you can take the tips off at cleaning and put it back. It's just so nasty. Ain't nobody supposed to be in here in no way. That's what I'm saying, but it's like, it's always mad waxing it is. Like, gosh. Gross, disgusting.

But I had fun in Tacoma. Shout out to the city of Tacoma and Seattle. My fans came out, meeting Greek went great. Yo, it was a crowd was mad diverse. I like to see that. It's dope because, you know, black, white, Asian, you know, African. There's a whole bunch of people there. A whole bunch of people there.

And it was really dope to see how all of them bought my book and how they all had different testimonies. You know what I mean? Like about how they ended up in good or bad situations with the co-parent of their kids or whatever. So it was really dope. Shout out to Tacoma. Shout to Tacoma.

Shout to everybody I ran into in Charlotte. I was out in Charlotte this weekend. Did you get to go to the baby's restaurant? I don't hear about all the parties. No? You said you was going. I was going to go soon as I land, but I had a show. I had so many events planned and schedule because it was homecoming that I couldn't make it at all.

So I got to go to Shull in a couple of weeks. I'm going to go next time. My schedule won't be as hectic. Damn, man. Yeah, I was very, I was looking forward to going. I wanted to hear a review from somebody I knew. I know a lot of people personally who've been there, but somebody who I can see every day. No, I was very disappointed.

I really, really, really wanted to go in. And I left Sunday morning early, so I couldn't even even. Yeah. Get it there, but I had a great weekend. You know, I had a great weekend because my Dallas Cowboys won. Okay. Congratulations. It's just a regular season game.

But thank you, I guess. You're welcome. My South Carolina Gamecocks lost. But you know what I did most importantly? What? My closet is clean. Drop on the glove box for me. Man, let me tell you something.

There is nothing like having a clean, organized closet. I gave away 23 bags of clothes to do that. Oh, that's what's up, yo. Jesus Christ. That's what's that. I mean, it's just years and years. I'm a hoarder, first of all the ball. Okay, so this is years and years of just stuff that was just thrown all over the place.

And I finally got my closet. That's my closet. My closet is so clean. The kids come run through the closet, it feels so good. Did you give away the slides? What slides? The slides that you wear every day that people don't like. No, I got them on right now.

Those are here in the studio. The closet is so clean. How many Timberlands did you give away? Oh, and I still got those. Those are another project. That's a project for another day. That's a project for another day. That's a project for another day.

Yeah, that's what I did. When she went on that girl's ship, I cleaned her club and everything that she didn't wear. I just donated. Yeah. Because she's a hoarder. Damn. She's just a hoarder.

I don't feel like you should throw away Tim's and stuff like that, though. Those are nice shoes just to slip on when you walk outside. You know, that are some slides. But you got mad pairs. Slip on some boots to go outside. Especially in the wintertime. When we did that drive for Houston, right? And we were giving away clothes.

It was some storm that happened. And we were just giving away clothes. Charlemaine. came with no lie, at least 10 pairs or maybe 15 pairs of Timberlands. That's what I was like. I liked them. I was like Jesus Christ. I liked them before I moved to New York. I liked them. But I just know I gave away

23 bags of clothes and my closet is clean. I feel amazing. There's nothing like it. I don't know what it is. Like getting rid of all of that old energy. You know what I'm saying? It's just like out with the old and not even in with the new. You just make space for new things. It feels amazing.

It feels amazing. Like a new house sometimes when you clean up. Man. Well, let's get the show cracking. And just so you know, I'm retiring as far as hookah. Huka Poppy, no longer. It's about time. You still smoking Huga, boy? Yeah. I never smoke hookah again.

Well, I'm going to have. 50 years old and you still smoking Huga? You just stopped, yo. He just stopped. I stopped. We got Dr. Puma in here this morning to talk about cardiovascular health. I'm telling you talking about you just stopped smoking hookah. I retired.

But anyway, let's get the show Cracker. Dr. Puma, like he said, we'll be joining. As the founder and president of Soren Medical. He'll be here. And also Grand Master of. Flash. He's got a new book called. He's got a birth of a culture.

Both, yeah, birth of a coach. Yeah, birth of a coach. We'll talk to both of them when we come back. Let's get the show cracking. What we start with? It's a new T.I. and Quavo record, right? All right, well, let's get it on. And don't forget, get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1.

Front-page News is next. Morning, everybody, we are the Breakfast Club. Let's get some front-page news. Start up with some quick sports, all right? And start off with football. The Cowboys beat the Texans, barely 34-30. Man, shut up. A winner is a winner.

Throw that down when you say that. You're a while. The Rams beat the Eagles. 2420 Vikings beat the dolphins. 15 to 10. The 49ers beat the Broncos. Seahawks beat the charges. The Chiefs beat the Raiders.

The Packers beat the Buccaneers. The Ravens beat the Titans. The Jaguars beat the Bengals. The Bears beat the Jets. And also the Panthers beat the Lions. And number one in the division, if you didn't know. The New York Giants beat the Cardinals, 3624. We are number one on our way to the Super Bowl.

I know that's right. Clues bonds for James Winston. Y'all should be kissing James Winston's feet. Y'all was kissing Maga Jackson Dodd's ass, so y'all need to be kissing James Winston's feet. Okay, drop on the clues bond for James Winston. That's right. Like I said, we are number one in the division.

By the way, James is the best post-game interviews ever. Yes, he does. And always has. Yes, he does. But y'all need to be kissing this piece. Same way y'all is ready to run around here with Jackson Dart. We are. Okay.

We are. We are, absolutely. All right. And tonight, you're ready to storm the capital with Jackson Darts. So y'all need to be ready to ride with James, James Winston. Hey, we're number one in the division. And tonight, the Falcons play the New Orleans Saints at 815 on Monday night football. Now, also, there was a lot of WMBA scores.

Let me get to it. All right. The Liberty loss of the Dream, 92, 82, and the Valkyries beat the Aces 71-260. And in baseball, the Yankees lost to the race. All right. Good morning, guys. How y'all doing this morning? Camis Mimie Brown.

Tamisha Brown from Howard University. That's right. Front-page news is sponsored by Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. So this morning we start this hour with President Trump on the campaign trail, facing growing pressure to address the cost of living with control of Congress on the line. So Trump, we talked about this a little last week. He's launched that 32-day campaign push ahead of the November 3rd midterm elections. And he was in Ohio Saturday telling voters the economy is booming and urging them to keep Republicans in control of Congress.

Let's listen to a little bit of that. But it was just announced that under Republican leadership, incomes for hard work, Americans have soared to the highest level ever recorded. African American poverty, Hispanic American poverty, and Native American poverty rates are all at their lowest levels ever, ever, ever, ever. It's over, gang. This man is still peeing on your head and telling you that it's raining. Imagine standing in front of a group of working class people telling them they're doing good

when their pockets say otherwise. And I'm so glad you brought that up because, and just to fact check that the cost of living is not at record lows. But new polling shows the economy Trump is describing is not necessarily the economy that voters say that they are feeling. A new CBS poll finds 9 out of 10 voters say they judge it based upon the prices. Seven and 10 say Trump's policies on food and groceries have made the policies have made the groceries go up. And more voters are saying that he is not focused enough on keeping. those costs down. I saw a poll that said 75%

of Americans disapprove of Trump's economic management and 65% blame his policies. Yep. That's pretty... The AP poll I think it was. The AP Norke poll, yep, right on target with that. And this morning

Trump is making a financial pitch to Americans. So more than 20 million seniors on original Medicare are getting a $90 payment. this month to help with Part B premiums. Now that money is hitting your account if you're a senior and you qualify on around October 8th. Recipients will also get an email or a letter from President Trump highlighting the work he's done on health care,

but they're not the only ones getting money. The administration is also sending $500 Obamacare refunds to nearly one million people in 30 states. Now, those checks will come with the letter signed by Trump telling the people that his administration is returning money that belong to them and highlighting his record on health care. And there's another check that we talked about before, about that $5,000 check to every U.S. adult. Critics are saying that the government is trying to buy election, you know, buy your vote with this money.

Here's Senator Mark Kelly from Arizona. Let's listen. So I think people should see this for what it is, especially this $5,000 payment if Republicans maintain control of the House and the Senate. I mean, this is just a payoff and he's trying to buy votes. Imagine being in an office almost two years, ruining the economy, but then lying to people telling them that 30 days before an election,

they're going to pay you $5,000 and the economy is booming. All these lies, when all you had to do, since you've been in office, is the right thing. You had an opportunity to correct all of these things, and you didn't. You didn't keep none of your promises about the economy. Hey, man, we know a decision to make a couple. midterm elections. All right. Absolutely. And really quickly before we go, I know midterm elections, today is the last day to register to vote in 11 states. So Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Ohio, Tennessee, Texas. If you live in one of those states,

you want to vote on November 3rd, you need to register by today. So just don't forget today is your last day in those states. And check your state register our office for your specific deadline. This hour front page is sponsored by Morgan Morgan, Injured, Know Your Worth, America's largest law firm, visit for the people.com. In the next hour, we're going to talk about this massive homecoming, high school homecoming scene that turned into a crime scene, guys. We'll tell you what investigators say happen and who they're trying to find still this morning. All right.

And everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-105-105.1. If you need to vent, call us up now. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Ray, Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlemagne. Givie, what up?

Are we live? This is your time to get it off your chest. We got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. We can get on the phone right now. He'll tell you what it is. We like. Hello, who's this?

Hey, this is Tilly. Tally, what's up? Get it off your chest. Good morning. Good morning. NV. Shalman, Jay. Good morning.

I just wanted to get off my chest. I'm so sad this morning. I got broke up with over this weekend. Oh, damn. I don't know how to move forward. I've been with this man for four years. Two kids. y'all got two kids together

yeah we got two kids together damn oh he ain't break up with you he just need a little briever that's all he just needed to go see his side chip no stop wow what the hell she's already doing bad oh no no no so what happened why did y'all break up why he break up with you we didn't walk up for a minute now but

we was disagreeing over discipline our two-year-old son like I'm in the bathroom dying from cramps and he won't our son woke up crying because I got out to bed and he think it's time to give out whooping 3 o'clock in the morning

and I'm dying from cramps So I'm just telling him to relax And he's mad at me of three He's cool He's whipping a 2 year old He's kids at $2,000 He's not going to never whip him But he just put on that stern voice

So he can get him to calm down But it's 3 o'clock in the morning He's not going to calm down if he's being stern He needs to be comforting Nurturing Can I make a suggestion First of all I don't say the man is whipping kids

If he's a damn That's how that crazy And just say he was yelling at the kids and something. You said Whippin. Okay, yeah. We from an era, well, we knew a whipping's word. Yes.

Correct. You're right, you right. But, yeah, but it's 3 o'clock in the morning. Why is she trying to be starting to a 2-year-old? If you want him to, the goal is to get him back to sleep, you need to be comforting. And he felt like I disrespect him or I don't respect his parenting. He don't have no voice when it comes to our kids.

Listen. Bro, I put in 90% when it comes to the kids. You just go to work and take care of the house. So let me handle the kids. handle whatever else. But she was a nod. I disagree with that. Did you hear of disrespect?

Yeah, I do. I do hear the disrespect. I handle 90% but he goes to work and take hands in the house. She said I have 90% of the kids. The kids. I said other kids.

She said she doesn't understand how kids operate. She says she understands. She does 90% of the kids. Them kids ain't got no place to stay. Daddy don't go to work. She didn't say she didn't respect that. The problem is she says she handles 90% of the kids.

He said he handles the house and the bills. Now the thing I don't like is, she is going to work. Yeah. I gotta go take the kids. She's got to eat. No, it's not. She's not doing the kids.

She's not doing that. She is not doing that. She is not doing that. She says she takes care of the kids. Go ahead. You can't take care of the kids without daddy going to work. Don't doubt for that at all. She's not at work too.

I go to work and I go to work in a house care kids. Oh, you say you go to work too? Yes. I'm at work right now. Good, good, good. She said she handled the kids. Just don't downplay the role of the man in the house. She didn't downplay the role.

She said, I handle the kids. He handles everything else. I'm like she want her just do. Well, look, check this. Just get my book. Get my book. Because I had some advice for you. But just get my book, yo, because I feel like you still can't take away how he disciplines the kids.

You know, it is 3 o'clock in the morning. He got to get up to go to work. You in a bathroom with cramps dying. And the two-year-old is getting up because you got out the bed. I mean, at some point, the goal has to be to get him to sleep by itself. in his own bed. You know what I mean? Like he's breaking your husband

somewhere with your boyfriend sleep or whatever. You know, you couldn't, you was out of commission at the time. Cramps are crazy. So you got to allow him to discipline in ways that he discipline.

You can't say he whooping if he ain't whooping. You know? I mean, he's right into whooping. I just wanted him to relax. I wanted everybody to relax at that moment because I was going through it. You can't control the house though.

But you're screaming at a two-year-old when mom just left the bed is a two-year-old. I guarantee you, she's a two-year-old. I guarantee you, She might be exaggerating, though. He probably wasn't yelling and screaming. He probably she just don't like the way he was talking to the baby.

Because he caught up and talking about he was whipping the end. Yeah, exactly. He was, he wanted to hand out whooping. My exact words was he talked about he wanted to hand out whooping. To a two-year-old. Three o'clock in the morning. Okay, he talked about it. All right, cool, that may be his way of like, yo, look, get yourself together.

Chill out. Your mother in the bathroom, relax. I'm just trying to scare you guys. Like that's, you know what I'm saying? I'm scared you back to sleep. But a two-year-old. Okay. Okay, so at the end of the day, I'm wrong for not standing, like, backing him up, basically.

I don't think you're wrong. I don't think you're wrong. I think you're wrong. I think you're wrong. But a two-year-old, mom just got out the bed. I'm sleeping next to my, I'm crying because I'm, where's my mom going on? She might baby the kids, though. Like, she might baby him.

You know, a lot of that, this is a common issue between the parents. I do baby him. That's my only fun. All right. Now, you admit it. That's great. Accountability. You baby him.

You know what I'm saying? Like, that's mommy. You know, you're the nurturer. You over-nurture. I get it. Dad, that's so, you know, not so much. He's the dad. So he's like, yo, relax.

You don't need to cry 3 o'clock in the morning because your mother got out to bed. Relax. That's just what that is. Two-year-old? Yes, two. Two. Salamane, I love you.

And keep your eyes. Both them. Keep your slides. I love you more. Hey, shut up. Y'all have a good day. I got to go back to work. All right.

Get some light on, man. Yeah, don't do that. Nobody should downplay each other's wrong. in the house. You know what I'm saying? I don't think she did, though. Yes, she did. She did, man. Just because she said, I take care of the kids and he takes care of the house and the other bills. He said I take care of his kids too, Evie? No, she didn't say that he does not take care of the kids. She handles the kids. 90% of the time. Don't put a number

on it because it's half and half. Because guess what? You can't feed these kids without the food that I provide by taking my house to work. And she works as well. Okay. She did. She didn't say that. But even for my house, so he takes care of the kids more than I do. She's the one that feeds them knows that takes them to the doctor, takes them to school, picks them up. She does more of the kids. She's also very involved. I know, I am very involved. And because of the work you put

in, you're able to provide the health care, able to provide the food. That's a 50-50 partnership. But that's a family. Well, parents can be there equally at the same time because when it comes to the kids, gear is the one that deal with the kids. She knows the majority of the kids. She knows the doctor's name. Do you know your doctor's name? Do you know.

Teachers? No. Me neither. But I know the health care. I know the health insurance. This is a joint venture. This is a joint venture. There's a joint venture, but she handles the kids more than I do. That's it. That's what I'm saying that. I'm not saying it's not a 50-50. Well, we can agree to disagree. I mean, I feel you. I got you. Well, get it off your chest. Call us up right now at the breakfast club. Good morning. My closet this morning. This is a lot.

The father is still ain't clean? No, I did it. This weekend. I told you all in this. Oh, my closet is clean. Well, your mom handled is 100% of y'all growing up. Well, my grandma and my stepdad too. She had helped. I'll be able to kick there. It's the breakfast of the one. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk.

hate the way you dress. Everything with me is best. Call up next. 800 585-105-1. Not just me. I'm with the coach of feeling. Hello, who's this? Hey, good morning.

This is T.J. from Jacksonville, Florida. Hey, T.J. Good boy. Hey, Jacksonville, balling. Y'all look good, bro. I ain't even going to lie to you. Appreciate it. They all good.

Good morning. Breakfast Club. Good morning. I just want to get this off my chest. Can y'all plays a new round of new artist? Because, like, every time I can guess every song that come on. I just knew it. so y'all go back to top of them.

I don't blame you for that. Yeah, I ain't mad at you. It's the radio programmers, man. They just have to come up with a new way of programming music. The way that they program music is very archaic. Yeah, I understand, man, but I'm going to put the radio back on mute once y'all start playing. Now, we be trying to switch it up some times. We'd be throwing in there Kirk Franklin, New Join.

We play Quavo, New Joy. We'd be trying to play some different stuff here and there. We'd be trying. I understand. But you know you're going to get a 10, you know, you know you're going to get a fold of it. You know you're going to get, you know, there's certain joints. nothing we can do about. Okay, I understand.

Y'all have a good one, though. Yes, too. And, Jess, you need to come to Jacksonville. I know, man, I know. Y'all got any other venues? Like, I know, I'll perform. I go to this one venue there when I come, but y'all got any other ones?

We got the dailies at the stadium. We got a couple spots on the south side by the beach area. You know, just ask the manager the call, and you, trust me. We got you. Thank you. I appreciate that. I'll see y'all soon as then.

Yes. Okay. All right, brother. Get it off your chest. 800-585-105. Now we got the latest with Laura coming up. Good morning, y'all. Yes, we do.

So we are always having that conversation about what we want to see as far as like Blackface is on TV. So this morning, we have a season two announcement to celebrate and a conversation about a classic comedy special.

And if it could come back in today's time, I think y'all will enjoy that conversation. All right. We'll get to that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. This record is on.

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and they complain about the very thing they're receiving. It's raw. I knew that the issue of transgender athletes was not going well with a lot of black men. Roland Martin unfiltered. I went off, I said, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Y'all going to scream as you. Chanel, but you don't want to see a black luxury company in the same vein. Catch Roland Martin's daily commentary on the Black Information Network.

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I'm Andrea Gunning. On this season of betrayal, we meet Carl Bryant. Carl thought he was living a normal drama-free life until the messages started. You will have hell to pay. For nine months, someone infiltrated every aspect of Carl's life, threatening to ruin him. Cyberstalking, swatting, extortion, impersonation. And then the text threats escalated. Someone's not going to make it out of this alive.

It's playing out in real life, not just on the phone. Every piece of evidence pointed to one man. But every piece of evidence was a lie. He was not going to stop unless we stopped him. Listen to Betrayal Season 6 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The World Cup is over. But if you caught the soccer bug and aren't sure what to do now, check out our podcast, Big Kick Energy. I'm Cameron Dicker, the kicker from the Los Angeles Chargers, most accurate kicker in NFL history,

but I was raised on the soccer pitches of Shanghai. And I'm here with Timmy Tillman, L-AFC star, grew up in the academies of Germany and now under the bright lights of major league soccer. So we know a little something about kicking balls. Maybe you're new to the game or you're ready to take your passion to the next level. Each week we'll tackle things like who's winning the Premier League this year. like a number 10. Do you know what that means? Then we go over to France. Ligoon. Ligon.

Liga. He knows more. He's better than me. What do you think is harder? Scoring a penalty kick or scoring a field goal? He's in the NFL and I'm like, just a big fact. I do enough. That's crazy. Join us each week for a quick chat with your soccer-loving bros about the best sport in the world.

Soccer. Just don't tell my coaches I said that. Listen to Big Kick Energy on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Let's get to the latest with Lauren. The latest with Lauren LaRosa. Because you particularly are bringing the energy to mainstream radio, the black radio. That sources trust.

Did you hear that exclusive? Lauren. I'm the homeguard that knows a little bit about everything and everything. She'd be having the latest comments. You ask the question that need to be answered. On the breakfast club. If little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you. L.L. Coobay.

Talk to me. All righty. All right. Good morning. Are you ready to celebrate? What? Celebrate what? A different world,

season two. Oh, absolutely. The series is officially renewed for season two. Congratulations. Dropping a food bomb for Netflix for making the right goddamn decision. Hello, that was an easy call. They didn't make that. They would have missed that layout.

Shout out to Debbie Allen. That's what's up, you. Yes, that new generation of Hillman College students that arrived on campus this season are going to get a chance to come back in season two. Period. Congratulations to them. It's such an easy show to continue to do.

I was even thinking about that over the weekend. when I started renew. I'm just like, why did a show like that even go away? Because you could have just been new classes all the time. It's always the new class

of students coming in to Hillman. Yeah, the writing has to really be good though. I can't even think why it ended. Like, I can't think of the reason why it ended. Oh,

that's because it was causing too many black kids do want to attend HBCUs and just college in general and do something to their self so they had to get rid of that and put reality TV on.

Gotcha. That's all. You know, the outlet's say because of creative friction, but we know what that means. Yes, but congratulations.

to them in that cast. We'll be looking off for season two as well. Now, let's get into some more conversation about television and people making it because Chris Rock is back in the director's seat for Misty Green. Now, he's having a bunch of conversations. He sat down with the Times, and it was a wide-ranging conversation. He got into Bring the Pain, and whether or not he believes that Bring the Pain is something he could do today.

Let's take a listen to Chris Rock on Bring the Pain today. You said, you know, I don't know if I'd be able to make Bring the Pain today. Do you really think that's true? Because I look around at comedy and the culture, I'm like, it would be pretty coarse. It would be huge. As a matter of fact, you know what? I'll go even further. Bring the Pain would be bigger today.

Because you wouldn't be able to report on it. What do you mean? You wouldn't be able to say it was great. The New York Times wouldn't be able to say it. It wouldn't be on Netflix. It would be like the Shane Gillis thing, which would actually elevate it. New York Times got a weird thing with comedy. Like, they ignore the nuance.

You know, it's like, this is a manosphere, conservative thing, or this is a really kind of wokey-woke thing. And all the people in the middle, they kind of ignore. Bring the pain because it would be actually less lauded, would be bigger today. Because it would have some sort of taboo appeal to it. Don't ask me, I'm not the person to ask, because I love Bring the Pain.

So I think Bring the Pain can work in any era. I share it. I share N-words versus black people all the time. You do. Right now to this day. Yeah, that is like a Bible up here for you. Yes. But I think what he's talking about is the way people received it,

because according to what I learned in this interview, and then when I went and looked it up, it won two Emmys in 97. It was like praise. He's saying it would be big because people would be doing the opposite. Yeah, people would be like, they'd be so upset about it. And that's why it would be big. It wouldn't be like, go, Chris, like the way that it was back then.

It wouldn't be critically acclaimed. Pretty exactly. That's what he means by would it work. But I think we would, the people would definitely go watch it. The numbers would be crazy. And they would cause a lot of conversation. They would. 100%.

It's kind of like, of social media and clippings and taking things out of context. But why do we like that they did his interview? We see that with Dave Chappelle though, too. That's what I'm saying. Why do we act like that's not what art is? Art is subjective. That's why I always remember the rule of 10.

Three people are going to like it. Three people are not going to like it. Four people don't even know what the hell's going on. Let people talk. Just put your stuff out and let people talk. I think for him in his career where he's at, it's like, does he even feel like going through all that? Like, why? It's like, he doesn't need, he doesn't have to do that.

He can tell stories through movies and stuff now. All you got to do is turn your phone, though. But I just think it would move faster. Like, I feel now when comedians do specials, it's like, you like it for a day or two, maybe a weekend and it's gone. Something like that. Back to the old, when the comedians did those specials back then, they still sit with us. Like, I still remember Martin's special.

I still remember all the Eddie Eddie's specials. Still remember Martin, I mean, Chris Rocks. Like, I remember all of them. Yeah. So he also in this interview, because it was very empathetic. I came here this morning. I was like, I didn't know he was full with so much empathy. He talks about being a black man and how, you know, certain accusations and conversations

stick with you and how he regrets something he did not do for a friend because of this. Let's take a listen to Chris Rock on a friend who went to jail. When you're black, white people believe every accusation is a conviction. If you go on your phone and punch up Roger Logan exonerated, a guy named Roger Logan, who I grew up with, he was one of my best friends' brothers, went to jail for 19 years for a murder he didn't commit. His brother used to plead with me to pay for a lawyer, for Roger, and I never did it. I always had like a no lawyer thing because a lawyer is like an open-ended thing. Like, I'll pay your mortgage, I'll put whatever. I always stay out of lawyers because it's so

open-ended. I'm still, it's still, I was like, I had the means to help him. and I didn't. And I don't know if we could have got them out or not, but still. So all that to say is I'm black. Black men get accused of shit. They didn't do all the time. We let black men out of jail out. We go, whoops.

Who, that black guy just did 30 years. Too bad. And they were having a conversation about like cancel culture and is that a real thing. And like, you know, even like with like, yay and different people that we see people have empathy for. Like, what was his take on that? Now Roger Logan, their most recent update on this case from back in 2015, 2016, New York City agreed to pay him $3.75 million after he spent almost 17 years in prison before he was exonerated from a 97 fatal shooting. Now, I read that and also said that the state paid $2.9, is it two different settlements or is that the same settlement that the numbers were? Yeah, I believe it was two different settlements because he said his lawyer also told the New York Times that he has also settled a case with the state for $2.9 million, as well.

It's interesting. I saw people very upset at those comments that he made, and I don't understand why that's pissing people off so bad because it's clipped. It's clipped, but that's also his money. And it's his discernment. And he said he regrets it. Why y'all mad at him because of his regret? Right.

Because in the same conversation, he talked about paying people's mortgages. He talked about paying people's rent. He talked about paying people's education. He just said for him, he's always stayed away from paying people's lawyers, and he regrets that in that situation. Why does that piss you all up? But because in the clip, it doesn't, the way, when I watched it, the part where he said he feels bad and he, you know, that wasn't in the clip. So that's why it's a bunch of people upset.

Now, I didn't comment because I know, I see it, especially since working up here, you have to go and watch the whole interview, whole conversation. Yeah. But I don't like the blogs, like they do that to get people going. And I was like, wow, the amount of empathy that I feel from this conversation, whoa. Because he also talked about people in his family who. who have dealt with, like, you know, been on, they've pulled the trigger and went through some things and how it changed his mind about how he thinks about

how the world just throws away people, especially black men. Like, yeah, go watch the full conversation. And he's saying he regrets it. Yes, that's the funny part. Like, he's saying, I regret it. Like, I regret not doing that. Yeah, in the clip, it didn't have it like that. That's, and that's unfortunate.

Now everybody mad at them and all that. And I know we could care less, but I'm just saying, that's why I don't like when blogs do that. They clip up these interviews. They make people look bad and they get the people going. And you know you got a bunch of people online. Y'all get everything right all the time. Y'all made every great decision ever in the history of life.

Now, I will say this. What? I don't know why he volunteered that information. That's what I was sitting on it. It probably was sitting on his heart. It feels like it is. After that. Everybody made.

I probably was sitting on his heart and he just wanted to get it out. Oh, he probably just wanted to say that for the guy. Yeah, for the guy. Yeah, for the guy. I should have done it. I should have done it. I should have done it. Absolutely.

Right. Yeah. Well, that was the latest up for the hour. guys we'll be back in the next latest with another conversation that uh clips are you know circulating and getting the people going get people going all right now when we come back we got front page news and that was brought to you by life lock they didn't bring the sheet for me to say the whole thing of a life lock but i know you got it you've got it memorized life lock is uh life lock is for protecting your identity because your name matters and it counts all right it's the life you

built that's right it's front page is next is the next is good morning morning everybody is djian nv jess To Larry, Sholomayne Nagar. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. All right, let's start off with some sports. Where are you going to start, Charlemagne? With the Dallas Cowboys beating the Houston, Texans, 30-4-30, okay? And the Ravens won two.

Yes, the Ravens won two. But the Giants are number one in the division. I just want you to drop a bomb for the Giants, please. Okay. Dropping a bomb for James Winston. Drop one of the Clues bombs for James. I love James Winston. I, y'all know that, right?

Yes. God has loved James Winston for a large. That man is blessed and an anointed. And y'all was all ready to storm the Capitol with Jackson Dart. So y'all better be in line. Watch your mouth. Watch your mouth. Go buy crab legs with James Winston, okay?

We're going to church with James Winston a lot. He's going to have a great career when he retired, especially as a broadcaster. When he retires, he's having a... He's fantastic when he gets in front of a camera. Oh, yes, he is. Now, the Rams beat the Eagles 2420. What? I don't like how you said that.

He's fantastic with in front of camera. Oh, yes, he is. Why do you get kinky all the time? You miss the party, boy. Oh, let me get to the Eagles. the damn news. I'm not going to his buddies when he's out. All right. Vikings beat the Dolphers 15, 10, 49ers beat the Broncos, Seahawks

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What's up, Mimi? Good morning, guys. From page news is sponsored by Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. So we start this hour in Georgia with some very sad news. It's where two people are dead and at least 25 others were shot at a massive homecoming weekend block party. That more than a thousand people were packed into the streets of Vienna, Georgia. That's about 50 miles south of Macon when gunfire broke out early yesterday morning.

Investigators say more than 50 shots were fired when a gunfire came from at least two different directions. They believed there were multiple shooters. And while 25 people were shot, investigators believe another 10 were injured just trying to get out the way during the chaos. This happened during Dooley County High School Homecoming Weekend. It was not an official school weekend event. And despite more than 1,000 people being there, there were no arrest. Now, the Dooley County Sheriff, he held a press conference yesterday to update us on the victims. Let's listen.

35 additional victims were transported to several. regional hospitals for treatment. Victims range from 14 to 51 years old. Conditions of the victims at this time range critical to staple. I don't even know why we leave the house, man. Yeah, it's crazy. I would much rather stay in the house all day. It's crazy, crazy.

The Georgia Bureau of Investigations is helping with the case. And at this time, investigators still do not have a motive. So we will continue to watch that story. And this morning, we have an update for you on that funeral home mixup out of Detroit. So the families, you remember the story of two women whose bodies were allegedly switched, are now suing the funeral home. So one of the families showed up for their mother's viewing. They realized the woman in the casket was not their mother. And they later learned that their mother, Kimberly Moore, had accidentally been cremated.

And another woman had been dressed in her clothes, her wig, and placed in the casket. Now the attorney representing both families says the funeral home realized that it had made a mistake and tried to cover it up by putting another woman's body in the casket. Let's listen to the lawyer. They used Ms. Miller as a prop. Okay, do you understand? They used her as a prop to at least have a body to try to sweep this under the rug. I mean, this is as offensive as it gets. That's crazy.

Like when nobody going to know that that's not that. your mother. Yeah. And so both families, they're now suing, accusing the funeral home of carelessly and recklessly handling their loved ones' bodies. Now, the second family, they only learned their mother, Sandra Miller, was the woman in the casket after seeing the story on the news. They say they call the funeral home. They asked if that was their mother involved in this mix up and they were told no. So then they reached out to the other family themselves, and that's when they learned that, in fact, it was their mother. Wow. Yeah.

After everything she had been through, my mom deserved dignity, identification, protection, and respect. She was somebody's daughter. She was a sister. She was a wife. She was a mother. She was my mom. Right? So.

And lastly, you know, we talked about the vice president Joey Hutchinson, Jr. He was found dead inside his home last week. But he has not named in either of these lawsuits. And his family has asked for privacy and officials have not released. his cause of death surrounding his his death. So again, just a very, very crazy stories with lots and lots of twists and turn, guys. So I know. I know.

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Now, when we come back, we have OG Grandmaster Flash. He'll be joining us. And he has a new book out. The name of the book is Burr. Earth of a culture. We'll talk to him next. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Shalameen de God. We are the breakfast club. Long Lawn Lawn Laude is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. The OG. Grandmaster Flash.

What's going on? How are you doing? It's a bunch of y'all, huh? Wow. You're doing, we're all right. How are you feeling, first and foremost? I'm a little tired. I've been running, doing all the promo for the book and the whole thing, but it's great that I've gotten a chance to, you know, talk about it from my perspective as a scientist and mathematician. So it's pretty cool.

New book, birth for the culture. And congratulations. You're receiving a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Congratulations. You are also receiving a star on the Hall of Fame. What do you think, man? I think it's, I mean, it's a great honor, you know. And it seems like it's one of those things that people see

and I feel like they're more happy for you than you are. You are. You're like, oh, wow. I was kind of shocked when I was. heard it. Me too. And to get it for, you know, the quick mix theory, I'm like, does that organization kind of watch for those kind of things?

Yeah. All good, though. But somebody had to nominate you. Somebody nominate you. And clearly, I mean, you nominated Grandma after Flash. I mean, that's a no-brainer. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I still was in shock, though.

I was like, okay, this is pretty cool. But good to see you again. And it's always a pleasure. Good to see you. Hey, are you still in shock? Are you still in shock? You kind of seem like... You're kind of in shock.

Like, this is pretty cool or I don't know. What, yeah. Yeah. It was like, you know, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, same thing. It was like, hmm, okay, this is pretty cool. I didn't know what they do. He was going to bring us in there, but they brought us in there. So it's pretty cool, man.

Thank you. What do you think about hip hop now, a culture that you helped create? What's your thoughts on everything that you've seen from, starting what you started from the streets? Well, what I would like to see, quite frankly, see more diversity in the subject matters, and even in the track. That you mean. You know, so like when it first came out, it became big business. I call it the musical thumbprint.

The tracks all had their own sound. And the subject matters, you could act like you could tell a Dre sound or Teddy Riley sound or DJ Premier sound. Things are beginning to sound a little bit. The same. The same. I'd like to see that diversity again. But other than that, I mean, I'm glad it got here because if it didn't, I don't know what else I'd be doing for sure. So on that side, it's all good.

I found it interesting that you named the book, Birth of a Culture instead of Birth of Hip-Hop. Like, what's the difference to you? I think it's almost the same thing, but the culture kind of includes everything, birth of fabric, like birth of everything we did that, you know, encapsuled hip hop is why I said culture. Other than just, you know, the four elements is bigger than that. That's why I named it that, you know. You know, people talk about like the birth of hip hop, like everybody got together and decided to create something. But they don't realize y'all was competing.

Exactly. But you know, no kumbai y'all by, no means. Right, right, right. How much of it was actually born out of competition in ego? I think it was more or less, the four of us had our territories. You know, Herk had the West. You know, Ben had Bronx River. You know, breakout had the north and I had the east.

So it was a thing where you wanted to keep your flock coming to you. That's why, like, to shopping for the records and finding that beat that nobody else ain't got was, like, paramount. You know, to keep your flock coming here and not going astray. so to speak, you know? So that's where the competition was. Other than that, we were pretty respectful of each other. You know, uh,

Hirk didn't always love me, but I still love him. He was always mad at me. Were y'all sharing information or were y'all hiding it from me? Hiding. Hiding. Hiding. Strictly hiding, of course. You know, we will hide the records, you know,

even to the point where, uh, when we were shopping for records, if I found something that was the bomb, you know, like, When you buy the records, you break the street crap, they say you bought it. Sometimes you go shopping and you buy two records that they have something on it and this is whack. So what I would use to do is the whack joints, I had like a crate, you know, in my bedroom and I would soak the heat and the whack ones in the bathtub and soak the labels off and switch them. So out of respect

Like when a DJ would come visit You would allow him behind the ropes You wouldn't have him stay in the crowd Can't see my heat though And I know you ain't gonna ask me But you'll never find what my heat was So when they look at the records It's a totally different record

Yeah And they go by and they're pissed off at you Ooh And be the DJ You understand that So those things was pretty important Yeah I was gonna ask

You know do you feel like People don't respect the hip hop culture enough meaning knowing the homer knowing the four founders the how it started and all that and do you think it's just a game where people just jump in and just eat off

of a sped of knowing who Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five and knowing where the elements of hip hop created right I think it is critically important the founders or people that are that were around the founders educate these young people that this thing just

this thing didn't just fall off a tree and happened. This thing took a lot of perseverance and a lot of just, you know, studying me. I did it from a mathematical and science perspective. Like, we were intelligent people that just was doing something going outside to play.

Mom would say, go outside, go play. This is what I was doing. You know, so people need to know. And the thing is, I wrote this book because chronologically, people should also know where this thing started and why it is that

has a continuity on why it transcended to where we are right now. So when you read the book, you're going to read the once upon a time, but it's going to connect to where we are right now. And then other than that, I felt it critically important. Like me, I don't think that one person was a creator of this culture.

There's just no way possible because it's four elements. I did two of the three, hurt did one, bam did one, bam, and breakout did one. So for me, I think it was important for me to say, all right, I'm going to write this book and I'm going to break precedent on how it's written, meaning that I'm going to go find me as many people as I can find to contribute their story to this so that people can see where it started and where it ended.

Like, I got L.L. Koojay in there. I got DJ Premier in there. I got Ice Cube in there. I got Ice T in there. I got Queen Latifah in there. And what I did is I asked each one of these people, why did you want to jump in? Like, why did you want to be a part of this? What were you thinking? And talking to Raqin about his writing process.

What is he thinking? Because he's considered one of the greatest doing this. You know, and I sat down with Q-Tip and how did you meet? They met in some of the strangers. places. So some of these stories are very, very interesting. Me and Hank Shockley had a sample yelling in conversation.

It was absolutely scholastic and wonderful. So for me, I had to go out and get other people to make this whole thing complete. So you basically feel like hip-hop's history has been told incorrectly. I think it has to be, gaps have to be filling. You know, because

we can't get angry, at least me. I can't get angry at anybody that wants to say that they understand the history of hip hop if they're 30 I can't get mad at them because they weren't born then why are you going to be mad at them because they're doing the best

they can so for me I want to sit down with all the people that really love this and have these podcasts and things and say that part right there this is what happened here that part right there this person did that this part right here is critically important that's why I wrote the book the way that I wrote it so that

all these young people could come to me and ask me. I'd rather them come to me and say, well, Flash, what happened right here as opposed to I hear the interview and I'm saying, oh, somebody skipped the floor here. No, somebody didn't go into the basement. You know, it's really, really important.

You can't get mad at these people. And I think it's our responsibility. It's our responsibility to tell these young people what this was like so that when they regurgitate it and they tell it to their fans, it's correct. When I look at the MTV Awards this year, the video music awards, and I see them highlight Madonna, right?

At Madonna is what, 68 years old? 70. 70 years old. And I see them highlight the way that she is. And that's new fans, young fans, old fans, and they just highlight and love her for what she has done for the culture. I always think to myself, would they allow that for a carerous one, give them the same love like that?

Or like a, you know, or a run DMC, LL or, you know, a RondyMC, A rock cam. I'm going to answer your question. I'm going to answer your question. Yes. We've got to start doing that with ourselves. Like, I don't mind saying this DJ is incredible or this rap is this and that. We don't do enough of that amongst ourselves.

Very true. If we don't do it enough amongst ourselves, how was outside is going to come in and say, well, this is what it is. Because you could best believe in Madonna's family, like all the other stars are big in her up. and it's just nobody wants to say this person did something really good I like this I like that he's dope he's that so we got to start with ourselves first that's what I'm thinking I agree with you wholeheartedly that's why I don't have no problem celebrating people you know what I'm saying absolutely we would clown certain the artists back of the day because you know some of the older artists

when they lose a step you know you make jokes about it but it's like yeah but let's not forget who they were right you know what I mean let's not forget the foundation that they lay yeah totally I totally agree. So for me, I sit back and I watch there's so much controversy in our community of hip hop as opposed to big in up. That's right.

People, it's just not enough of that. And you could best believe, Envy, if we do that, then we'll get that Madonna thing you're talking about. Yeah, because if you feel like Madonna will play on the pop stations, old or new, it doesn't matter. They just say music is music, right? Right.

But, you know, a lot of times, We won't do the same. Yeah. And I mean, but why won't we, see? And he's a DJ. Why won't we?

And he's a DJ on the radio. No, not even me. I play. I play everybody, especially play the people that I grew up on, but the program, the program is around the country

won't play. Let's say, we had the same conversation with Kirk Franklin, right? Kirk Franklin just released a record. It's a gospel record. Okay.

But he sampled, they know, from Saudi Law, right? Okay, okay. The record is just an amazing record. Features, Glorilla,

it's just a good record. They said, oh, it's a gospel record. We played every morning here. It's a good record. It's a hip-hop sounding record. So it's a record that should be able to play everywhere is what you're saying. Absolutely. Absolutely. Freak and the thing about hip-hop,

how it was constructed, we musically sampled everything. And lyric, we allowed you to talk about anything. Correct. So why is it, if the formula is being used, why can't this particular composition play over there or play over there or play over there? I don't know.

That's why I'm still here. And I thank God that I'm still here, you know, because I want to try to just add my piece into this and hopefully that will strike a note with the people that's coming after me to say, right, we need to fix this, we need to do this, we need to try to do it this way that way. You know, the controversial thing,

we don't need to do that. We don't have to fight for that anymore because hip-hop is gigantic. Yeah. On the come-up. This was difficult. When a culture gets as big as hip hop has gotten, who gets the right to history of it?

Is it the people who lived it? Is it the journalists? Who gets to live it? Who gets to write it? Who gets to write it? I think the way I did it. It's like I took it as far as I took it, then I passed the ball.

And then it's passed it. Somebody passed it to Q-Tip. Somebody passed it to L.L. Somebody passed it to Premier. somebody passed it to iced tea. All these people are in my book. Because I said to myself, there's no way in hell. I'm going to sit in and say that I created all the factors of hip hop.

No, I did things that helped contribute to it, that helped transcend it here with the things that I did. But it's not just no one person. And I think that's where we kind of screwed it up there by saying one person. did all of this. And I was saying for a very long time, we can't, we can't do that.

It shouldn't be that way. So I don't know whether we, do we, do we rewrite it or do we tweak it? Like, what do we do? Outside of the one person conversation, what other hip-hop history facts does your book kind of debunk or provide more context to that we would talk about

differently after we read it? Wax paper, spray starch, felt. You're making a hip-hop? I'm going to say something here. My contributions to this culture, four balls forward equals six counterclockwise revolutions, which equals to full loop.

The DJ is responsible for the backbeat, the instrumental, that allowed the rapper to have a beat speak on. The seamless loop allows a producer to go into a studio with a fragment from an existing composition called a sample and take it from the streets to big business. This is my contributions to the culture.

It's called the Quick Mix Theory. So for me, I'm only one part of this. You know, and I use math and science, counting the bars and the whole thing, but this is just one piece. There's other people that added another piece, ended another piece,

and then another piece, and that causes that, to the next era and somebody else adds another piece. And it has to be that way. And then we have to show more love for people. All right, you added that piece, big up. That's the way it should be. We got a lot of correction to do.

You know, you talk about the message, right? One of the greatest records in hip-hop history. But I recently saw you say that it marked the end of an era of what you consider, like, a glorious period of hip-hop. Like, why did you feel like that? No, I didn't say, well, I felt that, like, Grandmaster Flash in the First Five, one DJ, five rappers. I felt like all five of them should have been on this record.

They had this formula called the switchovers, where they can make one, one line sound like one. They can go eat, any, me, miy, moat, ketchup pig. Like, they could do that on all the records. And that was our way, Charlemagne. And when that record, when the record company said, we only want one of the five, that was an end of an era. That was the end of an era where it was multiple rappers on this stage at the same time. I think that was, there should have been more of that because that's how it was back in the 70s and 80s.

Everybody was a group. and a lot of today's fans don't see that it's probably singular more as you know Lauren was just saying that the other day we see more we see less and less groups

I was saying wow it was the me like we have the Migos but before that who was closest to them in generation and they can be compared to

because everybody else it's like older larger groups wow and I was asking will we ever see that again as successful as they were yeah you definitely see that

but it's just gonna be far and few yeah I think you will I don't know. I mean, because they go on ebbs and flows. You had the Migos, you had Outcast, you had Mobb Deep, but you had UGK. like you'll see that again. Absolutely.

I mean, I think it's magical to see that when they were performing live to watch them pass the words around. It's something. It is something to see, you know, so. Absolutely. So what do you want people to get from this book, Graham Master Flash? What do you want them to understand from this book from you, the birth of a culture? If you come from. A jazz family, mom and dad or your uncle will trilling your head, Miles Davis.

If you come from a rock group, if you come from a rock family, mom and dad will drilling your head rolling stones. If you come from a pop family, mom and dad will drill in your head, Elvis Presley or whatever. Elvis Presley, Madonna. Oh, whatever, exactly. I want people to understand that this thing was a slow progression and this thing wasn't oops or by accident.

This was seeds, planted, grew, and it moved on to the next era, to the next era and to the next era. So I want people to understand that this thing was not just something that was thrown together. this is something that should be took it very seriously from the first group

to where we are right now how do you watch something you help create evolve into versions of itself that you didn't necessarily understand or even like so how do I

say the question again how do you watch something you help create I watch it I go hmm and I say like a lot of times you know what I do Charlemagne every now and then I do vinyl sets all vinyl so that people can understand

what it is and I'm not knocking modern technology it actually helped me from stop having a lift crate so it's a wonderful thing you know but every now and then like I play on Twitch every now and then

when I'm home and I go on and I explain to them that the modern technology of equipment assists you a lot. But we can go back to a time where you had to find the part of the song where it is. So for me, when I see new DJs doing things with new technology, I smile. You know, because I can look at the equipment and say, I could say to them,

that line right there on a vinyl, I call it to Intersector. I did that 50 years ago I see it on equipment You know so all this stuff makes me smile Because once again All these stuff All these things that I did This shit could have missed

That's right Did the technology help people become More creative Or does it kill the creativity Oh it's a little bit of both I think it's more more creative I had to hire like five or six people With crates when I was booked

Now I could just put 100,000 songs in a hard drive You know And let's go So that's the game gift. I think the curse is, I think sometimes modern technology helps you too much. Even with this AI thing, you know, I'm just beginning to learn that. This AI thing, I think it's great, but I think it should be a hybrid of human and AI together.

Because to me, what makes a great song, like James Brown's songs are not on. the grid. The horns are a millisecond behind and the bass is you know, Bouti might have missed a note or whatever. But when you listening to it, you hear the human, you hear the swagging it.

When I hear it, AI song. Bootsie Cowens. Booty. So when I, when I hear an AI song, it's perfect. Yeah. I don't. I got you.

Nothing's ever perfect. I got what you're saying. It's too perfect for you. Yeah, it's too perfect to take you there. Through the motions. It's more like it's right there. It's like, uh. It's too polished.

It's too polished. You know, and I'm not knocking it. No, you're right. You know, it's just it's too, too perfect. And if you love the AI artist, let's say he made an album full of those. He's never, he's never coming to the garden. I was going to say, how do you tour that?

you invite people out to see that. She's never going on to her. Never. That's real. You know, so for me, AI has its place. I think it's cool. I just think that it needs,

the human element, I think is paramount. To have, I think it is. That's great. Well, listen, man, I'm glad that hip hop is grown

to where you can have a book out called birth of a culture. Thank you. A star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame. That's right. You deserve it all, Grand Master Flash.

Thank you, man. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate you for joining us this morning. Make sure you go out and get the book. Thank you for always teaching too, man. Absolutely. Birth of a culture, get it now.

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Jess O'Larry, Sholomey and the guy. We are to Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren. Because you particularly are bringing the energy to mainstream radio, the black radio. That source is trusted. Do you hear that exclusive? Lauren. I'm the homeguard that knows a little bit about everything and everything.

She'd be having the latest thinking. You ask the question that need to be answered. On the breakfast club. If little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you. L.L. Cubey, talk to me. All right, y'all. So, Da Vinci. Actor Da Vinci. We know him famously from BMF. He played Southwest

T. Flannery on Stars, 50s, BMF. But also, he researched. recently appeared in Tyler Perry's Why Did I Get Married Again as Marcus Jr. It was announced recently. Oh, that was Markis Jr. Yep, Marcus Jr. Don't play with the bench you like that. In July, it was announced that he's going to be a series regular on NBC Chicago Fire.

Nice. Yeah, and then he's- Shut up to him. Like, he's definitely one of the ones. I like to see him on Spain. He's out here working. Well, he sat down for a conversation with Kim Newton on Funky Friday and they kept it real funky. They got into some things. So let's talk about first, the conversation on actors,

outside of American coming and playing these American roles. Da Vinci and Cam talk about this. Let's take a listen to Da Vinci on Black Americans being lazy. I had like work ethic. I was determined. Like I started, I could take care of myself like fully at like eight years old. But in America,

no shade to you guys, the way the culture have like moved majority of its citizens. It's like you're just incompetent for a really long time. Do you think that that's a country thing or a personal thing? I think this country promotes that. I don't think it promote like us like really like being able to think critically and being like hard workers. That's why I do think some producers probably just like, you know what, we want an overseas actor because they're probably going to be more focused. They're probably going to be less worried about being a celebrity or influencer and probably just locking in on a work.

I don't agree with you. What America's premise is is efficiency. Like if there's an easier way to do something, well, that's what it will be. And as collateral, the nation, the kids suffer because they're. become incompetent. Six years old, I was getting off the bus, you know, walking down the dirt road, letting myself in the house, and, you know, waiting there until my grandma came home

or my mama got off work. So we were just as efficient, we were just as independent or whatever he said at six and eight years old. Yep, that's why I said his life wasn't, like he's not the only one that had to fend for himself. You know what I mean? Like, that's not just your life. But you know, that is a thing, right?

People say that people in other countries work harder. That's why they always say, you know, Mexicans work harder. Even in China. Jamaicans work harder. And we can say what? Yeah, Mexicans. It's a Jamaican. Mad jobs.

Like, that's a thing that people say. I've been hearing it all my life. And we can say, DaVinci is Haitian. He's been here in breakfasts up talking about his, you know, growing up in New York. They say Caribbean people work harder. They have more jobs. How old is he, though? Harold is DaVinci.

Because the actual thing about 80s, we were definitely fending for ourselves at age. I mean, he was definitely fending for ourselves at age years old. I mean, I think. I think at my end, so... According to Google, he's 30 years old. But at my age, yeah, we were. But when you get a little younger, I mean, my niece, she's not fending for herself, but she is learning through technology and things are a little bit more convenient for her.

And they get into that a bit as well. I mean, eight years old, had to take care of the two-year-old. Yes. Like, I was saying that's... Yeah, what? A hundred percent. You have to do everything. I had to do it all.

Well, let's switch gears a bit. Because they also get into... They talk about, you know, racism and dates. in the conversation around dating outside of your race. Let's take a listen to DaVinci on racism and dating white women. Could you date outside your race in public? Yes. I mean, I'm not with a white person.

That's what the world is wondering. But I don't think there's anything wrong with that. It's not a color thing at all. I do think it's unfortunate that we have so many people in the world that can't see past that. I can understand the emotions that it conjure up because of what people of African descent have have gone through under the hands of Caucasians. But however, the story is much bigger than like Caucasians have enslaved Caucasians. Black people have enslaved Black people.

We're looking at history from a point of view that is cutting our legs off on our feet to really be able to move forward and be like smarter and more like a, I think just more awareness. I mean, think of it. I mean, shout out through the LGBTQ community. They're getting married with pastors that is officiating the marriage and they're not feeling no type of way about it. I don't think black. black and white people, and they're dating, they should be in a closet.

But why is that in America that we fear that more than that if this nation is supposed to be Christian? How did he weave slavery in that? Yeah, I was going to slavery, gays. He hit a lot at one point. You know, I'm confused. So what did he say? So how I understood it was he's saying that, like, you know, even though that they had

their, you know, at one point in time, you know, people of the community could not get married, they've moved past that and they get married and they don't hang on to that. we shouldn't because people date outside their race when you see somebody dating a white black man dating a white woman we shouldn't hold on to all the things the past back in the day and come with it we should allow people to love who they love

I'm gonna need DaVinci to come to the front of the congregation this morning we have to have a world with this is crazy child they're the difference between white indentured servitude and and chattel slavery by the way it's not even remotely the same thing I mean I'll talk about it during doctor

yeah I think the conversation should have this part of the conversation she should have had somewhere else. Because they and it's, first of all, people were reporting and he lost like over 200,000 followers. I haven't verified that, but I do know if you go to his page right now, they're in the comments calling him Daniel Caesar.

Yeah, you remember when Daniel Caesar had the issue with yes, Jew? Yes. Oh, yeah, yeah. Is it worth him losing followers or it's just an opportunity to teach? I think it's an opportunity to teach. And that's what I'm saying.

I think that the conversation should have, I mean, not it should have happened somewhere else, but he should further it somewhere else because I do think that people will learn. They pay attention to DaVinci. He's one of the faces right now. of Black Hollywood. Right. And I wonder if he's open to

receiving like education about it, you know what I mean? Because he seems very sure about everything he's saying. When Camper's back, he listened and they kind of went back and forth. If I think anybody that wants to be educated and he speaks from an educated perspective of what he understands, I don't see why he wouldn't be open to it. I don't think it's even about educating him.

You know, I always say I don't like to talk to individuals. I like to talk, you know, about ideas and about issues. So this just gives us the opportunity to talk about a larger issue. 100%. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that was the latest for the hour.

And by the, no, my mind. What? I was just going to say, I hate when black men say every time we see them with white women, we're upset. Not every single black woman is always upset.

And the ones of us that are, that's how we feel. Let us have that. Like, y'all be upset about things too. Our lashes, our wigs, our wigs, everything. Like, leave us all. Everything.

Everything. Like, if we can feel like, honestly, we. Dr. Omaudder is you. Yeah. By the way, salute to Cam Newton. Y'all can say whatever you all want about. I love can be good work.

I love him. I love him. No, I like Funky Friday. He gets the thing. And he's not afraid to give his pushback because they were going back and forth. Yeah, of course. Yeah.

But that was the latest with Lauren Orozum of the hour. Charlemagne, donkey today you just told us. Yes, I want Da Vinci. Mr. Juice. Come to the front of the congregation. His name is Abraham. Did you all right? Yes, Abraham Dijuced.

The breakfast club, good morning. the he-haw again. It's time for donkey today. I'm ain't trying to be donkey today no more. They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm not making these people do these things. Called donkey of the day, and it really caught me off guard. Damn, Salaman, who got the donkey of the day today?

Well, Jess Lari. It's donkey today for Monday, October 5th, goes to Abraham de juiced. Okay, sockpacet all my Haitians. Did I get that right? Juice. Juiced? Okay? Commonly known to y'all is Da Vinci. to the young king da Vinci i am sending you positive energy love and light i have not here to bash you

in any way because this conversation is bigger than you you know i always strive to not talk about individuals i like to talk about ideas issues institutions and this conversation is an opportunity to teach now da Vinci was on funky Fridays with my guy cam newton drop on the clues bombs for cam newton okay doing great work in the media space okay lover to hate it he's really good at what he does but cam and da Vinci were having a conversation about race and during that conversation da Vinci basically said we need to move on from slavery. Okay, part of his reasoning was that white people enslaved white people to

black people enslaved black people. So if we keep looking at slavery strictly through the lens of race, we're cutting our own legs off. Let's listen. I do think it's unfortunate that we have so many people in the world that can't see past that.

With everything that's going on, like I can understand the emotions that it conjure up because of what people of African descent have gone through under the hands of Caucasians. But however, the story is much bigger than it. Like, Caucasians have enslaved Caucasians. Black people have enslaved black people. We're looking at history from a point of view that is cutting our legs off on our feet

to really be able to move forward and be like smarter and more like, I think just more awareness. Now, listen, I tell y'all every day, I'm not the highest grade of weed in the dispensary, nor am I the strongest avenger, but I understand, okay, the larger point he's trying to make. The point I believe is you cannot build your whole identity around what somebody did to your ancestors. I might can agree with that, but Da Vinci, my brother, Mr. Juice, okay, there is a documentable connection between slavery and present day black American conditions. I don't have time to break it down for you, but I will point you in the direction of Dr. Joy degree. Okay, she developed a term I read about years ago and the term is post-traumatic slave. syndrome and it's a theory that describes

multi-generational psychological and behavioral effects of centuries of chattel slavery followed by continuing oppression and racism see people don't ever discuss that part and that's where da Vinci's comments really fall short when you say white people enslaved white people to what exactly are we talking about because if we're discussing black Americans then let's discuss America not what happened globally around the world

okay the slavery black people experienced here wasn't simply somebody making somebody else work against their will. Okay, the white indentured servitude, I think you're referencing, was a contract-based system, okay? That racial, hereditary, chattel slavery. And chattel slavery, the law literally defined enslaved people as property. Okay, the condition was permanent. The children inherited that condition through their mothers.

Okay, human beings could be bought, sold, family separated. You didn't work off your debt and go home, Da Vinci, okay? You were property, all right? And your children could be property, too. That's not my opinion. That was American law. The Library of Congress has the slave code. So yes, Da Vinci, white people have enslaved white people throughout world history.

Absolutely. Black people have enslaved black people. Okay, Africans participated in the slave trade. That is true. But none of that changes what happened here in America. Okay, when you say black people need to move on from slavery, hey, man, black Americans tried. Okay, they did move on from slavery. The problem is America kept moving the goalpost.

kept moving the finish line. All right. Slavery officially ends in 1865. Almost immediately, sovereign states started passing black codes, restricting the rights and movement of newly freed black people. Some black people could be arrested for minor offenses and forced back into labor.

Please, Da Vinci. Watch A. A. Wadovene's 13th. Okay, that breaks down the 13th Amendment and how it abolish slavery except as a punishment for crime. It's really simple. Okay, yesterday you were property. Today somebody tells you you're free.

Tomorrow they create a law that can put right back to work for somebody else. How can black people just move on from slavery when they got trick bags to put us right back in it? Right? That's not moving on. Then, you know, reconstruction gets dismantled. Then here comes Jim

Crow. Now you got segregation. You know, black people getting blocked from voting. Restrictions on where we could live, where we could go to school, where we could sit. What businesses would serve us? Okay, Da Vinci, for more than a century after the Civil War, laws and practices continue to dying black Americans full participation in American life.

These are just facts. That's it. So I'm just asking a simple question. When exactly what black Americans are supposed to just start moving on? Right? Was it 1865, 1965? Pick a date.

Okay? Because every time black Americans tried to move forward, America had another obstacle waiting. Now, let me try to explain this in simple terms before I land this plane. Okay. History doesn't disappear because the law changes. If I stop taking money out of your bank account today, that doesn't mean tomorrow our bank accounts are equal.

You still lost the money, okay? You still lost what that money could have bought. You lost what you could have invested. Your children lost what you could have passed down. That's how history works as well. Consequences have children too. That's why I don't like when people say that happened a long time ago. That's just not true.

There are black Americans alive right now who lived under Jim Crow. Okay, my aunts and my mother included, all right? The Civil Rights Act was signed in 1964. That's not ancient history. Okay, that's your grandmother. All right, that's somebody's mother, depending on how old you are. There will be somebody sitting at your Thanksgiving table this November

who possibly lived through those things. And this is why I think some people misunderstand the Black American experience. Okay, I would never tell a Haitian person, man, move on from what France did the Haiti. Who am I? Who the hell am I to say that? Okay, and that's what bothers me about these conversations. People look at where Black Americans are standing today

without asking how we got here. You cannot judge black people's position in the race without acknowledging how white supremacy spent generations putting hurdles in our lane. Now, I do agree, Da Vinci. History cannot become an excuse for where we stay. All right. History can explain where we are, but it cannot become an excuse for where we stay. We have to build. We have to heal.

We have to own businesses. We have to buy property. We have to educate our children. We've got to take care of our bodies. We've got to scream from our families. We've got to hold ourselves accountable. We got to create institutions and we got to protect what we build. We got to pass something down.

That's moving forward. But moving forward does not require forgetting. That's why Jewish people say never again. Okay. That's why we talk about September 11th every year. Nobody says, man, 9-11 was 25 years ago. Y'all got to move on. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

We understand that remembering tragedy isn't automatically the same thing as being trapped by tragedy. Okay, memory can be instruction. That's what history. It's supposed to be. So Da Vinci, good brother, I understand you saying black people need to move forward, but your history lesson needs some history lessons, okay? Because white people were enslaved to doesn't answer anything about black American slavery, and it doesn't explain what happened after emancipation.

Black Americans didn't refuse to move on from slavery, okay? We've been moving forward the whole damn time. The fact that we're still here is evidence to that. So don't tell people to forget history in order to move. move forward, teach them the proper history so they understand just how far we've already come. And then I say to us, keep going. Please give, uh, Da Vinci, Mr. Juice, the biggest he all.

Why you say his last name like that? I don't know. I think that's how hasten to pronounce it. Mr. Juice, is it juiced? Haitians, correct me if I'm wrong. You're asking this Dominican brother over here. I'm not Dominican.

I mean, that's light skin Haitian. No, I'm, I'm, I'm. No, I'm black. I'm not Dominican. I'm not going to lie, though, boy. What? Sometimes when you do think about our history, I'm like, how the hell are we still here? God is good, ain't?

God must have to play for us, right? Because we're both to be gone a long time ago. Damon trying to kill us since we got here. Damn, hey. Love or have mercy. Well, thank you for that donkey today. Jesus Christ. Now, when we come back, Dr. Puma will be joining us.

Dr. Puma is the founder and president of Sorin Medical. Yes. We always talk about the heart scan and also the full body scan. make sure that you're all right. You can check for aneurisms, things like cancer, tumors, blocked arteries, all that. And we're going to talk to him next. You don't move. It's the breakfast club.

Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Shalerman, the guy. We are the breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building. Our guy.

I'm sorry, medical. We have Dr. Joseph Puma. Dr. Welcome. Thanks. Thanks for having me back again. And really great to see you all. We talk about you a lot on this program because we love the work that you.

do you're saving lives. You're saving lives. So people who don't know who Dr. Pomer is, tell them about your practice and what your intention is for your practice and then we can go more in depth about some of the things that you do.

First thing I want to say is, you know, you're very kind to me that I'm saving lives. But I want to tell you all, Charlemagne, all your advocacy, DJ NV, Lauren, you're saving lives. In part because you talk about me,

I can tell you every single week there is somebody that's going to be having dinner Thanksgiving with their family, a mom, a dad, an uncle, a granddad because of the work that you do. So I appreciate that. Thank you. I've been an interventional cardiologist now for 40 years. Graduated medical school, I can't believe it, in 1985.

Oh, wow. And, you know, in this last part of my career, I've gone independent and we've just taken all the best technology, trying to keep humanity and health care and all. all I'm trying to do is advocate for the communities I grew up in and all the people, as you know, that I think we all have kind of similar backgrounds and try and educate them and inspire them to seek care. Get health care. This might be a dumb question, right? But does heart health get worse around the holidays? Yes. Okay. Yes. So they're definitely tight. Actually, heart health gets worse at about four in the morning, right? Most heart attacks happen in the morning. There's a security in rhythm. and then around the holidays for a variety of reasons, one because of stress, and second, because

depression's higher around the holidays. And there's, you know, one of the reasons, you know, we're such a fan of what you do, Charlemagne, and the mental wealth, and I think this is our fourth year supporting it. Yeah, thank you very much. Is because mental health is connected to heart disease. You know, one in five people that have heart attacks have significant depression. and if you have depression, you have worse outcomes, higher incidence of death, congestive heart failure, or other complications. One in five people after open heart surgery develop significant depression, kind of like postpartum depression, which everyone knows about.

But the same thing with heart disease. I wanted to talk about some of the procedures that you have, right? You do a full body scan, but you also do a heart scan. explain what those procedures are and why people should definitely look into doing those procedures, especially for themselves or their family or their parents. Yeah. So technology, as you know, has progressed so fast, faster than we could keep up, right? And all we ever hear about is AI, AI, AI, right?

Well, the one place where AI has knocked it out of the park is in heart imaging. So if you combine a high-quality heart scan with AI imaging, we can now do an angiore. of the arteries in your heart without having to bring you into hospital and without having to do an invasive procedure, we can get an assessment if there's any blockages of the flow, whether or not it needs a stent or bypass surgery. And we can get even beyond that an assessment of the plaque in the arteries. It's kind of like we're taking a car driving it inside the artery, right? So we can see if there's calcified hardened plaque, right?

In the old days, our parents used to call it hardening of the arteries, right? And it's from calcification. If they're soft plaque or even if there's plaque that's putting you at risk immediately for a heart attack. And so with that three-minute scan, right? And you all have been there and you've seen it. We literally can tell people you have this scan and then the protocol we use in terms of treating your cholesterol, blood pressure, diabetes. We've proven and published now you reduce the risk of heart attacks.

can live longer. Now, what's the difference between that and a full body skin? Because you also have the capabilities of doing a full body skin as well. So one of the reasons full body scans have become very popular, right? Two kinds of patients. Patients that are either symptomatic are feeling bad for some reason, abdominal pain, or they have dizziness, lightheadedness. And then a lot of people who have anxiety over their health care, right?

And people are searching on the internet, right? We know that now. There's a whole industry now of what's called wellness. on longevity. And today we have technology that can detect aneurisms or aneurisms which are thinning of the blood vessels. And if aneurysms disrupts, no matter where they are, if they're in your brain or in your abdomen, people either have a stroke or can die from it immediately, right? It can detect tumors. So there's a variety of reasons why people want a full body scan. You know, my, my, my

job isn't to tell patients I'm smarter than them or I know better for them. My job is to take people as they come and work with them to help them get the things that they need and give them the comfort. And again, as you know, from mental wealth, most common reason people come to a cardiologist. You know, one of the reasons we're so supportive is anxiety. Anxiety causes chest pain, shortness of breath, palpitations. That's right. It can cause all kinds of symptoms. And so we have the most advanced CT scan in the world.

It's the fastest, best images, low radiation. It's fast. We don't, we have no private-paced stuff. We're not concierge. Our goal is to educate people. Now, what about for people that don't have health insurance, right? Because people here are talking about it, and I'm sure the first thing they're thinking about is,

whatever I can't afford it. If I can't afford it, does that mean I shouldn't get my heart checked? Does that mean I can't get a full scan? So break down somebody who wants to get a full heart scan, a full body scan, and make sure that demo their family members are healthy. So I've been blessed to be in a breakfast club a number of times. Every time I've come there, I said, we take care of everybody. If you come to me or any one of my doctors, sir and medical for help, we help you.

And if they don't have insurance, they get exactly if the question. Queen of England showed up. They're going to get the same care as the Queen of England. That I'm not concerned about. They just let us know. Info at Sorenmedicalnoy.com, what their issues are. They don't have insurance. We get them set up.

It's no different. If you or your family comes, everyone gets the same treatment. You know, I want to tell you something, Dr. Puma, I feel like with the coronary calcium scans and the CT imaging and the AI-assisted technology now, I feel like we've reached the point where heart attacks should be much more preventable because you can see them coming. Amen. They could be preventable and I think when you and I first met, you know, going back, geez, it must be five years now. That was the message, you know, I was trying to tell you. And that's the message I'm trying to get to the community, okay?

And there's so many people in our community that either don't have access or it's difficult access to the health system and to their doctors. That one test, and then you add the blood work, into it we can customize and personalize for them and if they just follow directions we were we can and we've proven it now we've we've published it in research we can reduce the risk of a heart attack and you know long term and I remember us having that initial conversation all those years back right you know in terms of families having their mom or their dad you know in their 40s and 50s those are you know those are the most important years for your family even in terms of

creating legacy for your family, generational wealth for your family. I mean, we have to be healthy. And all of these things, you know, and Charlotte, I mean, you sent me an email a few weeks ago. I don't want to say what it was, but it was in the news.

You know, another 48-year-old, a 50-year-old had a heart attack in the ICU. So much of this is preventable. Dealing with the insurance companies, right? I know we had a conversation one time and you were saying that we were talking And you're saying sometimes the insurance company prescribes something that was popular in the 80s, like a medicine that was good in the 80s.

And it's now 2026. And the only reason that somebody would be taking that actual medicine from the 80s is because the insurance company wouldn't cover the new one. Do you see that a lot with prescribing? Every single day. They do it today on all different kinds of medicines. I want to be careful. I don't say I've become an activist. this, as you know in my old age, it is becoming increasingly difficult to take care of patients

because what the doctor says you need, you have so many layers of insurance companies, health systems, say, nah, maybe not. So when they do things like that, that's an economic decision. When you go to your doctor, those decisions should be health care decisions. What's the best thing for you, okay? Your doctor says one thing, and even if it's a, let's do just a simple cholesterol medicine. right so I see a patient yesterday on pravastatin or syphistatin right

and those are the first medicines that were ever invented and I was prescribing those in 1990 in 2026 you know they they wouldn't allow they wouldn't authorize the crest or the resuvastatin or wouldn't authorize the injectables now that we have you know there's one injectable

that's two shots a year wow and can drop your cholesterol and LDL by 45, 50%, proven to reduce the risk of heart attack or stroke makes you live longer, and the insurance companies won't pay for it. Well, why do they, because, so you're talking about Rovastatin, right? Is that one of them? I take it. That's a pill.

Yeah, but that's so common. I know so many people that take that. Why do they prescribe it if there are all these other, like, new, more like, researched methods? Well, because we always prescribe things in a sequence, right? But what I'm saying is that they're even denying resuscary. Subastatin, right? Crestor, which is... Oh, that's a big one too. Right, that's one of the most common ones.

But if you can't get people, we don't just put people on a medication for cholesterol. It's like blood pressure. We have a goal, right? What's our goal? Where do we want to get your total cholesterol or your bad cholesterol, LDL at? And what we do is we customize that with our heart scan based on your plaque analysis. So if we want to, you know, let's say DJMV, we want his LDL below 100. He may only need 20 milligrams of resubstatin,

but let's say for Charlemagne, we want his LDL below 50 because we see, and I'm not saying this is the case, I'm just saying, you know, hypothetically, that there's plaque. We may say he needs 40 milligrams of resubstatin, but then when we monitor his levels, his LDL may not be there.

So then we have to escalate. So now we want to go to the injectables. Well, the injectables are more expensive, but they work better, and they're right for him. But then it's a five. with the insurance company. So that happens all the time. I mean, that even happens with procedures. I have

a gentleman who's now in his early 60s heavily calcified aortic valve has had stents in his arteries already, and I had him scheduled for Friday for a cath procedure to assess that. His insurance denies it. That's crazy, man.

So we're fighting it with them and we'll do a period of period. But you go through so many hoops because they're... Listen, They're corporations. I want to tell you, Dr. Buma, thank you, man, for being a sponsor of the six annual Mental Welfth Expo. Like you said, it's like the fourth year in a row that you've sponsored. So when people come to the Mental Health Expo on World Mental Health Day, October 10th at the Joel and Diane Bloom, Wellness and a Vincent in Newark, New Jersey, what should they do when they come by your booth?

What should they be looking at? Yeah, well, first of all, they should come. Okay. And this is great. And this is great. You've started a national conversation, not just about mental health. health and what I love about it and the reason we support it is because you've you've made it, you've taken the stigma away from talking about your health. And kudos to you, Charlemagne.

Thank you, sir. It's amazing. And we are proud to support again this year and every year mental wealth. What we do while we're there is I have a bunch of my amazing staff and nurses there, some of my doctors there. And patients can come talk to us about anything. They get a chance, you know, in a low pressure environment to ask us any questions that are on their mind. That's number one. Number two, we do blood pressure screenings. Number three, we've started to do vascular disease screening. So we'll check blood pressures in the arms and legs.

And so we want it to be whatever it is, whatever people want it to be. We want to be a resource for the community. It's not about soaring medical. I think you know me well enough now to know that's not what it's about it's about educating the community and what I think mental wealth does you know when so many thousands of people come is people come because there's things on their mind and they don't know where to get the information from and it's become this amazing community of doctors and therapists and people but it's so common they have other issues. And so that's all we're hoping

that it is. So we're proud to support it. We're looking forward to it. I think it's in two weekends. October 10th. Yep, two Saturdays from now. October 10th. Joel and Diane Blune Wellness and Events Center in Newark, New Jersey. Come see Dr. Puma. He will be at the Mental Welfth Expo. That's right. Well, thank you, Dr. Puma for joining us.

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Get up that in your job. All right, y'all. So let's continue some conversations. Y'all remember last week, actually, we talked about Too Short and the fact that he said that he would go to Diddy's party when Diddy comes home. Crazy. Never heard it. Okay, well, I have the original conversation.

He sat down with Tawanda over at TMZ and talked about going to a Diddy Party once Diddy comes home. Let's listen to his original comments. Puff, his prison sentence keeps getting moved down, down, down. He's going to be out of jail soon. Do we think that when he gets out, he's going to be able to have a career? I'm going to the Puff Daddy coming home party. I'm not the kind of judgmental person who feels like anything outside of him kicking Cassie on the floor.

And just in the manner he did that, he had to go through a lot of remorse when he saw himself do that. He probably thought it was swept under the rug and he was going to move on with life. I think when he changed his name to love, I feel like there was a lot of stuff coming down to pipe that he probably knew, and he was like, I got to change my ways. It might have been a little too late because, you know, he's incarcerated for things that most people

wouldn't get incarcerated for. You know, I'm not that judgmental to go, I'm mad at a friend of mine for being super freaky. Of all the years I was friends with him, he never even brought me anywhere near anything freaky other than a fun party where nobody was getting naked, nobody was having sex, it was just passing the weed and having a good time.

Well, they didn't know. Well, yep. Okay. But that clip was super viral over the weekend. Why? Because he got some phone calls from some friends and he came back online to apologize. Let's take a listen to his apology. I want to thank all the people that called me yesterday.

Text me, hit me up about this TMZ puff daddy thing. I was a little insensitive with my words. I said that I didn't condone what he did to Cassie, but I would go to his party if he came home. I really didn't know the full extent of the case. I did not know. There were a lot of women who claimed that they had been abused by Puff Daddy and how it affected them. I do not condone abuse in any kind of way.

And I don't support anybody that does it. I want to say I'm sorry to the people that were hurt by the words that I said. I have listened. I have learned. I've read up on it. I am more informed to my daughter, to my daughter's mother, to my mother, rest in peace, to my stepmother, to my cousins, nieces, aunties, all of them, all of women in general. It's not a black thing.

This is all women across the board. I do not support abuse or abusers. Is there a longer clip when he said he does condone it? Because he never said he condoned it. I think people will instantly say if you're there and you're partying with him and celebrating him coming home, they would equivalent that to you condoning it. Well, number one, did he probably is going to have some type of gathering. Absolutely.

gathering or a small gathering. He's going to have a gathering. But if you're willing to extend him grace for the horrific incident we saw with Cassie, what's the difference even if you add more women onto it? Yeah. And then also it was about the party.

Too short said, are you sure that he's regrets what he did? He's sorry to. He changed his name. I understand extending grace the wrong way. Yeah. But either way, just talking about the party, okay, like just outside the women, he said that he actually went to parties, went to Diddy parties, and it wasn't no freaky

issue, what, nothing. It was just like, we been passed around. Diddy had, like, regular parties, too, I'm sure. Like, all parties didn't get like that, because that's what he's speaking to. Yeah. And he was just saying he would go to the party when he came home. With this one, it's like... He got backlash.

Yes. He got backlash. It's the same thing. It was in his comments. If Diddy comes home and throws a concert and people buy tickets and go support the concert, the celebrities that are there that choose to be a part of the concert or whatever, will also probably get the same backlash. because there are people that feel like

there should be no comeback supported whatsoever because there were victims of a situation to some extent. So, yeah, it is what it is. But that turned around real quick. I saw it picking up and I was like, oh, okay. And I was Wanda Robinson, by the way. Abuse is abuse. So was there one person or multiple, right?

So I just feel like, you know, whatever energy he had for the one. And maybe that's what people were calling him and saying, though. He said he didn't know. He said he read up on a case and everything and that's why he extended that. But how do you not know? That was, I mean.

Some people don't be tapped in like that. I was going to say, you got to call him. If you know enough to say he is arrested for something that people normally aren't arrested for, you don't know what he got him there? He said that Diddy is locked up right now for things that people normally aren't arrested for. How do you know that? Yeah, but it's a prostitution he got arrested for. Yeah.

He didn't get arrested for the abuse. That's what he's talking about the prostitution. But what I'm saying is if you're talking about these parties where the women were alleging that they had to take pills and do this and do that. Had nothing to do with the abuse, though. It was about more about the prostitution. But all of that was painted in the story that got us to the prostitution. He might not have seen that, though.

People have lives. People are not tapped in all the time. He said basically he's seen the... I just wouldn't volunteer the information anyway. Now, he said he's seen to Cassie because that was all over the place. And Diddy was arrested for hiring prostitutes across state lines and all that. I wouldn't just volunteer that. If you're going to go, just go.

That's what I can say. After see, when you... If you watch the video with Cassie, I ain't going to bat for Didia on nothing. I'm just going to sit back. All right. Whatever he got going on, God bless him. I hope he figures his life out. I hope he gets on the right track.

Yeah. That's what I would say. All right. Well, shifting gears a bit. N.V. You might like this story. I don't know. O'Dell Buckham Jr.

He's saying that the Giants. Odell. O'Dell Beckham, that's what I said. O'Dell. You said O'Dell. You said O'Don. O'Don. You said, O'Dowell.

Oh, my God. OBJ, the football player, the NFL player. Okay. Odo. He says that the Giants basically used him. They gave him the run-along. So there was a content creator who had posted a video talking about how it was disrespectful that the Giants brought him on the roster and then let him go. It was supposed to be like that full circle moment for him.

And OBJ got in the comments and he says, I'm super smart, but I didn't see this one coming, my brother. They got me. They won on top of the money you talking about. I made them. I came in humbly took vet minutes, then earned my spot and didn't say nothing about no money, which I know I make for everybody. I'm going to tell you this. I'm a grown man and it didn't hurt me. but it did when they cut me

like that part because I should have known better and remember when they announced the whole he wasn't going to be on the roster no more they made it seem like a mutual decision this doesn't sound like it was mutual it sounds like I don't think they ever made it seem like a mutual decision the guy Jordan Shultz he reported

that it was a mutual decision that it would give OBJ an opportunity to catch on with the team in a better situation where he could be utilized better this don't sound like that this sounds like he was looking forward to working and earning his situation like O'Don was looking forward to it

I mean, it excited everybody. I mean, we love Odell. How is everybody? New York Giant fans. Oh, okay, say that. Yeah, but but. But don't get it twisted. The Giants don't need Odell to sell out the arena.

They sell out the arenas, but it was, it was excitement for New York. Just Odell and what he brought to the Knicks, the flashiness, the fun and the pregame and all that. Like, it did. But, you know, it was sad that he never really got a shot to really play. So now he's not going, no way is like he retired or he was going for another team. Well, he hasn't said he's retired. Yeah, but he was cut, so we'll see what happens. It looked like he still had it.

Oh, my God. Cowboys won yesterday, yo. He's number one in the division. He better respect it. Yeah, you better respect it. Right, man. I don't know if a team could do that. There's a lot of things I don't know about football,

but I didn't know that you can just cut without even playing, without even seeing him play. He played a little bit. He played a little bit. He played. He was in practice. Yeah, he was cut. Now he was in practice? I mean, he practiced every week with the team.

I know, but wasn't he in a game? Yeah, I think he had like one or two snaps, but he didn't get any balls thrown to him, I don't think. I would have loved to see Odell play, but, you know, it's business. It is what it is. Yeah, he said he don't know why they gave him the run-along. He could have really been playing this year

somewhere and make an impact. Who's the number one in the division, do you know? Why would you ask me that? Just said, Giants. That's why he... I know it ain't the Cowboys, though. I know that definitely ain't the Cowboys. Definitely ain't the bum-ass Cowboys.

All right, because I always hear. that they lose. We're two and two and two. You know, I got a lot of family that are Cowboys fans, and they be really excited. Sorry for you. What's your dad's team? Is there a team in Charlotte?

The Hornet. I mean, the Panthers. It's probably them. The Panthers. Yeah. Why are you trying to be funny? Crazy. Yeah.

I hope that would have gone down the wrong way. And I'm not resuscitating you. Oh, great. Thank you. All right, y'all. That was the latest for the hour. It's brought to you by Top Dog Law. Top Dog Law is built for tough cases.

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It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Salameen the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Salute the Grand Master Flash

for joining us this morning. That's right. Make sure you go pick up his book, Birth of a Culture with Scoop Jackson. Scoop Jackson helped him co-author that as well. Mancer, so go pick that up. Yep. And salute to our guy, Dr. Puma.

You know, as Dr. Puma was on the air, There was people texting me saying, man, I need to go get that scan. That's right. That's right. And, man, you hear these horror stories about, you know, brothers who went to urgent care because they was having chest pains. And then they ended up getting sent home and then having heart attacks.

Yes. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, go to a doctor. Salute to doctor. I don't know why urgent care would send you home. Like, why wouldn't they tell you go see another doctor? Yeah, or go to the emergency room. I mean, and I know people don't be wanting to sit in the emergency room

because how long you're being there, but you have to. started going to go stay home. Hey, man. Sometimes sit in the emergency room for a long time. It's better than being in the car. Save your life. That's right. That's right.

All right. When we come back, we got the positive note. Oh, and I want to say, too, I want to remind everybody, man, this Saturday is my sixth annual Mental Wealth Expo at the, uh, Joel and Diane Bloom, Wellness and Events Center in Newark, New Jersey, man. You know, every year I bring together some of the best mental health professionals in the country, therapists, psychiatrists. And we just have, you know, a conversation, a lot of conversations about, you know, mental

health, but this year is all about healing. It's all about pathways to healing. It's all about solutions. That's all we're talking about in Newark this Saturday. Dr. J. Barnett's going to be there. Elliot Connie, Dr. Rita Walker, Kierre Gaines, the good sister, Michelle Williams. My good sister, Debbie Brown

is curating. Ayanna-Lavanzant is going to be there. Just a whole bunch of people, man. So go to Mental Wealthexpo. com, the RSVP to be there. It is a free event open to all ages. So we'll see you this Saturday in Newark, New Jersey. It's the Joel and Diane Bloom Wellness and Events Center for the Mental Welf Explore.

Is the Yolanda Adams going to be there? Why you keep asking me about these spiritual people? Because I feel like you need another like a special person. I do be having spiritual. I do we have a spiritual leader. Like Sarah Jake's Roberts has been there before, passing to Ray Roberts. But we don't, you ask me about Donnie Hathaway and Donnie McClarkland. Yes, you did.

Yolanda Adams. No, they're not going to be here. This is great. This time to get up out of here. I want to say salute to everybody out in North Carolina that I ran into this weekend. As such an amazing time. It kicked off my homecoming season tour Salute to Shells, Louis V,

everybody I've seen Lou at Stats. I just had an amazing time And it was... So, Chooey? No, I see Chooey. No, I didn't see Chooey. That's a stout. Oh, did I see Chui?

No, I didn't see Chooey. I didn't see Chooey. That's crazy if he listened. He was like, I was right next to you. Oh, do it? Yeah, remember, I had the incident stats. Oh, yeah, yeah, so you wouldn't even know him. So salute to Alan Avic has seen Alan Avicin.

He sends his love. I seen Fabless. He said, what's up, y'all. Period. What's up that? So I had a great time out into Carolinas. Now, Solomon, you got a pie. Oh, you're going to be next weekend.

Not this weekend next weekend. Yes, Cincinnati, Ohio, y'all. Cincinnati. Make sure you get your ticket, Cincinnati, because we're on in Cincinnati, right? We're on in, like, a lot of Ohio. Yes, yes, yes, we are. Get your tickets for October 16th and 17th. I'll be there next Friday and next Saturday.

We got four shows in just two days, and I'll be doing a meet and greet after every show. I got tickets. I mean, I got merch, I got my books. So get your tickets at just hilariousofficial. com. All right. Charlotte, you got a positive note? I do.

And we're on 102.3 to beat in Cincinnati. So sweet to everybody who'll leave us on 102.3 to beat. But I also want to say salute to the good brother, Da Vinci. I gave him donkey of the day to day because of his comments that we need to move on from slavery because white people enslaved white people too. It's just an opportunity to teach, man. And it makes me want to reinforce the fact that education is important. And education isn't always a degree.

Sometimes just pick up a book and read. Because the more you read, the more things you will know, the more that you learn, the more places you'll go. That's courtesy of Dr. Seuss, y'all. I knew that, y'all. I used to read them. I still be reading Dr. Seuss books. Tell my daughter.

I know. It takes a while. To my... I was going to take you to read one, Jeff. Take us out, envy. Come on for real. Just the Breakfast Club, bitches. You all finished or y'all done?

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