The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Claressa Shields Speaks Out After Slapping With Alycia Baumgardner + Byron Allen Interview

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

Today on The Breakfast Club, Byron Allen Talks Ownership, Building Black Wealth, Economic Inclusion. Plus, Charlamagne Gives  Donkey Of The Day To AI Flubs Students Names During Glendale Community College Graduation Ceremony. Listen for more! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You're all finished or y'all's done. Good morning, USA! Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Salomey, Beast to the planet. Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. Huh, ha, ha, ha. How y'all feel out there?

I feel blessed black and highly favored. Happy to be here, another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning. That's right. A couple of days away from a three-day weekend. Of course, this weekend is Memorial Day weekend. Yes, sir. So we are off on Monday.

It's a federal holiday. Yeah, I know you're happy about that. If you're telling people about that on Wednesday. Oh, absolutely. Three-day weekend, yes, absolutely. We just came back from a vacation. That's okay. Could you enjoy the moment?

Could you enjoy the day? Can we not enjoy being here today? I'm just telling people we know it's a three-week. the morning doing what I do. It's the first holiday season. People are traveling. People are getting excited. They're taking off on Friday, making it a four-day weekend. So, salute to everybody out there. It's the first holiday season. What you mean?

The first holiday weekend on the stuff, that really starts the summer. Oh, got you, got you. That starts the summer. God damn. I said, a whole year? God damn. That starts the summer. Damn. All right. Well, how you feeling, Jess? I feel good. I feel really good. Yeah. So you got?

Yeah. Yeah. I didn't really thought about it. See, when you sit there. like when you're therapist you just how do you feel for real how you really feel I'm tired yo but I feel really really good though okay your hair looks alive thank what do you mean it's up it looks alive what is that it's up it's up it's up it's a button it's called a bun yeah yeah welcome with you oh thank you my buttons be be given so don't play with me okay a life of its own my bun yes stop the main

character energy this morning your bud is good money no no no you're good money you just Hey, yo, he didn't say nothing. Do it over? No, I don't think you need to do it over. I'm just telling you it looks like it's part of the show is what I'm telling you. Oh, okay. Yeah. Like, should have his own name?

Have his own headphones, maybe a microphone. You know, I got to take it down, y'all. It's too much. I feel like it looked like a whole other person. Now you try to come from me out. You look fine. No, my bun looked like a whole other person is what you say. It does.

But that's fine. Jesus. What's wrong with that? All right. All right. Well, today on the show, Byron Allen will be joining us. He's a billionaire if you don't know. God damn it

Why you gotta leave with that Like that I mean Not the fact that you know I was about to get there I just want to just He's just a great businessman He's a billion He's a comedian

Yes he started off as a comedian God damn He's from Detroit Him and his mother had nothing Yeah see the headphones fits right That is crazy He's a comedy He was a stand-up comedian

A great businessman Entrepreneur He owns the Weather Channel And he's gonna break down How he did his business Not just the weather channel He owns a percentage of stars now. He owns BuzzFeed as well.

He owns the Huffington Post. Tasty. Yeah, Byron owns it. You say he's tasty. No, no, no, no. He owns tasty. You lead with money. He's rich.

Now he's tasty. What's your problem? You're a whole married man. You got sons. That's the network. He owns tasty. What would you do for a billion dollars? Yeah, no, he owns tasty.

So we don't be kicking it with Byron. And I've seen Byron out of last night at the Knicks game. I was there, but I see him on TV. Did you watch the next game? I didn't. Oh, okay. Oh, I see you're dressed like that for nothing. A little mascot.

Oh, a little mascot. Oh, that was an amazing game. That's what's up. That's what playoff games are all about. Knicks won in overtime. They came back. They were down 22 or seven minutes left. I thought it was over.

I was praying. I was like, the Knicks are doing it to me again. And boy, did they come back. Salute to Jalen Brunsey. Yes, I'm excited. Can we start the show with Welcome to New York City, please. My whole life is the Knicks. Everything I did.

What is that? I was there when we had nothing. Nothing. What you have now? We get big I too, Brunson. Yes, let's go. The reality is y'all still have nothing. So that's all right.

As Kobe Bryant once said, Job not done. One game at a time. I'm excited. I'm happy. I'm taking it. It's game. That's a game guy.

We know what he made. It was a double entendre. We know he's gay. No, it's the gay. It's the breakfast club, y'all. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess Alarish.

Sholomein, the guy. We are the breakfast. Club, let's get in some front page news. Now, last night, the conference finals game won. The Knicks beat the Cavaliers 115104. They were down 22 points with seven minutes left in the fourth quarter. They came back to tie it and went in the overtime. And salute to everybody who listens to us on Real 106.1 in Cleveland.

Okay? We salute you too. Yeah, salute to Andrew and Kara and the Watts family and everybody from Ohio. We bust your ass last night. Oh, man. Who the people? His head logs. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and salute to Jason Kidd. Jason Kidd and the Dallas Mavericks part ways after five seasons. So Jason Kidd is no longer coaching for the Mabbs. You don't ever wonder why your future son-in-law looks like your actual son? Yes. Don't he look like he looks like he? No, just because he's light-skinned doesn't mean we all look like that. It's not even that.

It's the nose, the eyes. It's all the features, the hair. Like, yeah. You definitely were the grimmling that got wet and he popped off. Literally. Jesus. All right. Good morning, Mimi.

Good morning, Mvay. How y'allelam. How y'all doing this morning? Good morning. So we start this morning. We have a lot of news to cover, you guys. We start in Washington, where President Trump has cut a deal that permanently shields him from any future IRS audits of his previously filed tax returns. So the one-page agreement was posted Tuesday morning and signed by acting Attorney General Todd Blanche. It states that the IRS is forever barred from pursuing audits or examinations involving tax returns filed before this past. past Monday. So the agreement it covers President Trump himself, along with his two adult sons.

It also extends to other Trump family members, related trusts, affiliated individuals. And on the business side, the document covers the Trump organization, including the family's real estate, hotel, golf, and licensing empire. Now, the IRS itself did not sign the document, and the waiver, though, is part of a broader settlement in which the president has agreed to dismisses $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS over the leaking of his tax returns. And the New York Times, they previously reported that the audit tied to the president's tax returns could have cost him as much as $100 million. So the Justice Department says the agreement, it applies only to existing tax disputes

and does not include future audits. So anything in the past, you know, he can go back. No one can go back and dispute those. But going forward, the president, can those can be disputed. But former IRS commissioners from both Republican and Democratic sides say they are unaware of any previous case where the IRS has agreed to advance. This is great. They had agreed in advance to permanently stop examining one specific person and their tax returns.

All these Americans out here is struggling economically and he's found yet another way to keep more money in his pocket. Like the IRS comes after regular people are hard, but the president can negotiate immunity. For tax scrutiny? So, Mimi, he could pay whatever he wants in taxes for the rest of his life because there is no order system. So if he says, I'm only paying you a million, there's nothing they can do. Is that what you're telling me? Well, what the way I understand it is, it goes back to his previous tax returns. So he was looking at $100 million for a skyscraper in Chicago, something that they wanted to audit.

So for an example, they can't go backwards and do that. I thought they said future too, like nothing in the future they can touch either. I didn't hear future. I just heard past. So going forward, you know, anything is on the table, but the past is off the table. That's from the way I understand it. So we can do a little bit more digging. But yeah, that's what acting Attorney General Todd Blanche set up for him.

And they said he was facing a potential $100 million tax penalty from past stuff. And now that's just gone. That's gone. And that was out of Chicago. Yep, that's gone. That's a nudge, man. Yes, it's very, very unprecedented. And also, we're learning more about that anti-weaponization fund, that nearly $1.8 billion taxpayer fund, the compensation program that was created as part of that settlement that President Trump's lawsuit, his lawsuit against the IRS.

So the administration says the fund, of course, was meant to compensate people who believe they were unfairly targeted or prosecuted by the Biden administration during a Senate hearing yesterday. Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche said there are no restrictions on who can apply for that money. Let's take a listen. During police week, I heard from a number of law enforcement friends who found it appalling that there was the possibility that folks like the peace, the oathkeepers, the proud boys who had. that assaulted capital police officers could receive multi-million dollar payouts from this fund. Will you commit that no one who has been convicted of assaulting a police officer will receive a payout from this fund? Anybody can apply. The commission will set. The commissioners will set rules, I'm sure. That's not for me to set. That's for the commissioners. And whether an individual and oathkeeper,

as you just mentioned, applies for compensation. Anybody in this country can apply. Yeah, so the fund will be overseen, as I said, by a five-member commissioner that will be appointed by the attorney general, and they can all be removed by President Trump at any time. And so the commission, it is not required to publicly release who receives any of these payouts or even why those claims were approved. And the fund is expected to begin processing those claims immediately, and they will remain active through December of 28 just weeks before President Trump leaves office. I don't care what your race is, what your political party is. I don't care if you got a MAGA tattoo on your forehead. Okay, there is no way you can be okay with this level of corruption. Like, folks are barely getting by financially in this country,

and they're using your taxpayer dollars to compensate people who committed the crime of insurrection. That's crazy. Meanwhile, he doesn't have to pay taxes. Meanwhile, he's immune from any tax scrutiny. That's crazy. That's insane. Mimi, let me ask you one question, though, before we wrap. In the next couple of years, I guess, what, two more years.

when there's a new president in office You think there's going to be a new president? I really want you all to start thinking about this. No. I really want you to think there's going to be when there's a new president in office can a new president reverse it like he has reversed things that Obama

and Biden put it into play. Is that possible? You can reverse, but do you understand that all the damage that has been done is going to take decades? The cleanup is probably going to take a whole two of the term. But you know, I don't understand when people say that either because he's done all this

in less than two years. So why we're taking he just reversed everything the first day. He had a pen. But think of the things all the people he's laid off, all the government agencies

that he shuddered, all those things are going to take way longer. Yeah, we'll take way longer. It'll take longer to rebuild that. Yes, I understand that. I'm just talking about policy

and legislation and executive orders and all of that type of stuff. But the executive order and things like that, yes, he could put, but I still think even with those things, it's going to take some time to put all those puzzle pieces back together.

That's so crazy. be done. That's okay. Overnight. He's allowed to do it. Like, this is insane. I do want, I just do want y'all to know MAGA is playing for keeps. I do want y'all to know that. They're not planning, like, they're planning on leaving anything anytime soon.

Well, he kept saying it. Too bold with it. I just think we're in past political solutions. You know, like we're just going to vote this type of fascism. We're just going to vote out authoritarian regime. I don't see that happening. Wow. And just really quickly before we, we, in the fact, we're just going to vote,

before we in this hour, I also want to say that this is all still set on the backdrop that Trump still wants a $1 billion in additional funds for his ballroom that he says is for security. And he still wants us to build the pool. That taxpayers have to pay. That he told us that we're going to come from private donors, but now taxpayers

got to pay for that too. Taxpayer money. I don't know what's happening. I don't see how y'all not outraged about all of this type of stuff. People are, but what could you do? What could you do? All right. Thank you, Mimi. Coming up at 7 and the fight overboating rights is moving into college sports will tell you about a major new call coming from the NACP in the next hour.

All right. Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1. If you need to vent, call us up right now. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk.

I hate the way that you dress. Everything with me is blessed. Call up now. 800-585-105-1. Not just me. I'm with the coach of feeling. Hello, who's this? Hi, this is Teresa.

Hey, Teresa, where are you calling from? I'm calling from West. Hey, Jess. West Philly, I'm sorry. Hey, West Philly. He's Teresa from West Philadelphia, born and raised. Get it off. On the playground is where you spend most of your days.

All right. What? Yeah, I want to get off my chest, the topic that you guys are just talking about with the government. I 120% agree with Shalameen. Like, how can we not be outraged right now with this ever-Mexico? and like DJ, and he said, what can we possibly do about it? Yeah, I mean, people are outraged, but what's next? Like, what can we do against Donald Trump and his team?

I can tell you what's going to happen. What's going to happen is, you know, a lot of people are going to take that hurt and that pain and they're going to start taking it to the streets. Like, that's just, that's just what happens in situations like this. You can't constantly keep your foot on the neck of people economically and expect those people not to stab when they're watching your whole administration get fat while they stop. It's just, they're going to snap. That's just the reality of the situation.

And that's what I'm saying. And then I feel like, when people can get on the internet and find people in for TikTok and 2.5 seconds, that's what we need to do is come together and pay that same energy in the street. It's going to happen. It's inevitable. I mean, even the IRS thing, you know, the IRS has really hurt a lot of families, people that didn't file right or had a bad accountant and just owe a little bit of money, a couple thousand dollars and can't pay it.

behind and all that. And the head that he got is a $100 million tax fine, white. $100 million. But we also got to stop comparing everyday working class people to the president of the United States of America. Now, the president shouldn't be abusing his power.

Well, that's my point. Every day working class, he would don't even have that type of power at all. But if somebody owes $2,000 to the IRS and they're paying $100 a month and it's hurting them monthly or even more, and he just wiped out $100 million. How does that make them feel?

You know what I mean? It's crazy to me. Hello, who's this? Hello. Hey, good morning. Good morning. My name is Breanna Harris. I just wanted to say, good morning, Good morning, Dr. Harris. Good morning, Dr. Harris. I wish, this is y'all every morning, but today is my 50th birthday. Hey.

Happy birthday. What are you calling from? I just wanted to announce that. I'm so excited. I haven't reached 50 nowadays. We don't do that. That's right. What are you calling from? I'm calling from Monroeville, New Jersey. I'm in the Oldville, New Jersey. All right. Happy 50. What's you doing for your 50th?

Working. Well, what's your cash app? Maybe I throw a little dollar, a little something in your cash app for lunch today. Oh, thank you. It's Diva all day. Diva all day. I'm sorry.

Diva nurse all day. Okay, Diva nurse all there. I'm assuming you're a nurse. She said doctor. Yes, yes. I'm a pediatric nurse. This is a good milestone birthday because all people got to do is give you $50. That's it.

That's a 50. Here you go. Here you go. I was going to pay for a slice or two today and something to drink. I got you today. That work. Thank you so much. I love you guys.

And that's a cash out, right? Diva all nurse. Diva nurse all day? Diva nurse all day. All right. I'm going to throw a little money in there for your birthday. Happy birthday, Mama. Thank you.

Get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-105-1.

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Hey, this is Shay. Hey, what's up, Shay? Get it off your chest. Yes. Have y'all been keeping up with your own boy, Michael Blackson? No, what happened?

Oh, my God, girl. I saw, I didn't see the episode because I, love hip-hippo Miami is not my favorite, but I have been seeing, like, snippets or whatever. But him and ride, I've been going add it, huh? It's been crazy on there, huh? Love hip-hop. I think it's what you want to expect When you give a man all their freedom

He's not made a little baby What's she expected to? Crazy, but look, that, oh my God, that's what I was saying That's what we were trying to tell her Back when we did this show What was it? Oh my God, relationship therapy Or something like that Like, he was literally being like straight up with her

And you know they had a contract in place Where she gave him a certain amount of women Per month that he could sleep with As long as it's the same one And then made a baby It's like you can't like give a man that much rope you know what I'm saying well she gave him enough rope to hang himself

yeah with the girl from the girl for Flavor-in-Lose crazy oh yes what's her name it's not Hoops is it hoops or who was it no it's not hoops it's somebody else it was Bucky

because remember she used to have a big ass teeth how they're smaller now I think Bucky's still on loving him what the hell is going on what are you talking about what Michael Black said I don't want to know

I don't want to know I don't know I do not want to catch it I don't want to know I don't know Bajay I didn't know I have a good Good morning. All right. And all the houses

be looking like Airbnb's. There don't be nothing to show that is their house. No pictures. Nothing. I swear I didn't know Loving Hip Hop still came on. Yeah.

Loving Hip Hop, Miami. I'm still an avid loving hip hop Atlanta watcher, but New York is off. It's just the two franchises now Miami and Atlanta. I didn't know Michael Blacks who lived in Miami.

I thought he was in Cali. Yeah. Or Atlanta. No, he lives in both. He lives in Cali and he lives in Miami. And he does him and Rada do the show in Miami. Love and Hip Hop, Miami.

All right. What you got in the latest? They say that you can report on anything except for Real Housewives. Oh, shut up. Shut up. We're not talking about the Real Housewives today, y'all. We are not going there today, but there's a new episode Sunday, so we'll be back. But the BT Award, the BT Award 2026 nominations are here.

Cardi B is one of the most nominated artist of the award show. But there is an artist who feels like BT Mr. Mark. So we're going to get into that. Always somebody who felt like that. Yeah, I think it'll open up a couple of. conversation a bit. And speaking to Mr. Mark, we're going to talk about Clarissa Shills today too, because she's saying that the reports have missed the mark on her and she's

threatening legal action. Her hand ain't missed that young lady's face, though. Oh, we're going to get into it. She's clarifying all the things. All right. We'll get into that nexus to breakfast. Get rewarded just for shopping with Simon Plus. Don't miss Memorial Day sales at Simon Premium Outlets and Mills. You can get points at scores

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We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're out there.

but this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad Hey Jonas and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?

We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This club, good morning. Let your talk, LL. Cube. Yeah. I'm not dumbing myself down.

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The latest with Narrow Lose. On the Breakfast Club. L.L. Cool, baby. Talk to me. Okay, y'all. So the BET Awards announced their nominations yesterday. The show was going down on June 28th in LA, hosted by Drewski.

Now, there's a lot of people nominated that we know and love. I'm going to try and just hit some of the bigger ones. So Cardi B is one of it. She is the most nominated artist of the evening. Pink body. Yes.

So she is nominated for album of the year for Am I the Drama, best female hip hop artist, best collaboration for Ariton Remix with Gizi and Lato, viewers choice for outside, video director of the year,

along with patients who came up here to that works with Cardi on her management and creative direction. Delaware's on. Exactly. And then she's also nominated for the Fashion Vanguard Award. Now this is a new award category that BET is listed people in, right?

Now, this, they say, is an award that describes, it's a recognition for public figures whose fashion choices continue to influence culture across entertainment, sports, and media. Now, Kendrick Lamar is also leading nominations, you know, Best Male Hip Hop Artist, Video of the Year. Nice. Collaboration mentioned for his collaboration with clips.

You also have Dochi, Dojicat. The clips, again, Tiana Taylor, Olivia Dean, Lotto, who are, you know, four nominations, Mariah to Sciences. Charlemagne is nominated for her. Pulse Award, which is also a new category. What's that? So the Pulse Award is basically people who are in the hour space of like digital creators,

you know, media creators who are leading the Pulse, who have their fame on the Pulse. Who's going on there? Who are who poses in that category? I said Drewski in that category. Yeah, I saw Joe and Jada in that category. I seen Cameron and Mace. It is what it is in that category. Drusky should win that.

Well, Drewski is host. But I was wondering, is he off limits because he's hosting the show. No. No. No? Okay. You've been smoking. 85 South is also in that category.

My brother is. Kiki Palmer for her baby. This is Kiki Palmer's show. Don Lemon. Hey, Dane. Mace and Kim as well. We mentioned John Jada.

Gabe on the radar. R&B money. Yeah. R&B money too? R&B money. Okay. Tank and Jay Valenzhenant. So two of my partners are in there.

85, South, you know, and R&B money with the black effect. what Drewski should win that category. Yes, and it's honoring digital creators to keep us talking, sharing, and coming back for more. That's how BETT listed it. Drewski should definitely win the anger.

Love that. Now, I mentioned earlier in the tease. Shout out to BET. I feel like this year is going to be another great year for them. They had a great award show last year. This year, I think, would be good as well, too, just because of the nominations and the conversations it's causing. But I mentioned that there was an artist who was upset

once these nominations dropped. This artist, Jed, we've talked a lot about him up here. He posted to X yesterday once the awards. were circulating and deleted it. He says, I hate BET. He added BET. Oh, Jesus. He says, that was clear.

Five Grammy nominations, zero BETT nomination slash acknowledgement. Nothing. He says, NWords remix the same people every year at the BET Awards. So, and I mean, I feel like we talk a lot about the artists who don't care about the BET awards and who don't show up. When I saw this, I'm like, well, his intention is in the right place because he cares about our awards over everything else. Jay should definitely have been nominated for that God does like ugly.

album. That album was tough, tough, tough, tough, too. It may not have had like crazy commercial success, but it was just a great album. It was a dope album, and I wonder if spaces like BET, the hip-hop awards that they used to have. I wonder if that was the way to recognize more of the hip-hop artists and rappers and things like that that they don't have anymore. But even with that, like Jid said, I was nominated. He should have been nominated for five grandmas. I definitely knew he was nominated for a rap album in the 80-grammys. But he should, uh, he should, yeah, he should have been recognized. Absolutely. Absolutely. A hundred percent. Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't know.

I feel like they're getting it right, but there's always some work that can be done. Do they have a rap album of the year? I was going to say, I don't even know. Who was nominated for that. Let me look it up. Hold on.

Actually, I have it right here. So, album, they have, you want to know specifically the album. Do they have a rap album? Do they have a rap album?

Do you know? Let me see if they only have a wrap album of the year? Probably not. Best group, best collaboration, best new artist, viewers choice. Lauren will say,

no, they don't have one and they'll have one. I'm not going to say no if they don't. If I don't see it, I'm going to look for it first. Post Award, we just talked about that. I do not see the best. Abbot of the album. So, Jid didn't say what category he felt he should have actually been in? No, he did not.

He just said that he was upset. They do have Best Mell hip-hop artists. That is at Rocky, Baby King, Big X-A-Flux. Best Mell Hip-Hop art. You said Best Rap album. Those are two. A rap category and rap. No, if you're looking at artists and album, those are different.

The Grammys will do Best Mell Hip-Hip and Album. Those are two different categories. Don't do that. I was looking for a rap category. Well, then y'all should have been more specific with your words. Like you're saying you're talking. Yeah, exactly.

You're not, exactly like y'all tell me, don't do that because there are two separate categories. But that's what I was saying. So what is it? What category? In this category, you have A-Sat Rocky, Baby King, Big X, the plug.

Okay, Big X. Who else? Baby King. The baby, Don Tolliver, Drake, J. Cole, Kendrick Lamar, T.I. J. should have definitely been in it. Yeah, Jett could have been in that category. Absolutely, Jish should have been in that category.

Yeah, absolutely. Yes, absolutely. Well, look, I mean, I think it opens up a comment. Not taking away from anybody on that in that category, but he should have been in that over-com people. Like Ugly was a phenomenal album. He was nominated for a rap album of the year at the Grammys. He should have been in that category.

Absolutely. Yeah. Well, I mean, hopefully it opens more conversation for next year. Yeah, next award season. Well, we have to wrap with that. But in our next latest, we're going to get into the conversation about Clarissa Shields. and she's threatening illegal action now as well to following the Alicia Barnardner.

Slap and we'll get into why she's threatening that. Well, happy birthday to bust the rhyme. See 54 today, y'all. Speaking of all right. Bus a bus. Big bus. Okay. All right.

When we come back, we got front page news. And then Byron Allen will be joining us. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious.

Shalameen the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back in some front page news. Now, the Knicks beat the Cavalairs last night, 115, 104. Now, the Cavaliers were up 22 with seven minutes left in the fourth quarter. The Knicks came back to tie it for overtime and then just just beat the hell out of them in overtime. So they won last night. Congratulations, Envy.

Thank you. You're welcome. That nigga wasn't on the court? I felt like you, though. Congratulations, Amy. Where I was jumping up and down, I felt like I was going to court. He was so hype, yo. This is a team.

When he texts us last night, he talked about, I was screaming so loud. My wife thought somebody was getting slaughtered downstairs. I said, oh, easy. I said, damn. What voice did he hear it? I said, who must have been over there? You see that? You see that?

You see that. That's how you texted? You didn't see your own. Then you was mad seductive. My wife said that. That's how you said. I didn't. I got it right here.

But the word slaughter is crazy. Crazy. Like, come on. Salada. We were screaming. Who is we? Right. Who is we?

It was Bea Logan and we watched a game. Me too. You didn't say, nah. No, you just, you know what? What's up, Mimi? Go ahead. Go ahead, Mimi. Good morning, Amy.

Good morning, Charlotte. Jass. How y'all doing this morning. Good morning. So we start this hour with the major new campaign from the NAACP aimed at some of the biggest, biggest college sports programs in the country. So the civil rights organization is urging black students, athletes to reconsider attending certain Southern colleges and universities following a recent Supreme Court decision that weakened part of the Voting Rights Act and sparked new battles over majority black voting districts across the South. So the campaign is called out of bounds, and it targets schools. in eight southern states, including powerhouse football programs like Alabama, Georgia, Texas, and Old Miss. The NAACP says many of these universities, they benefit heavily from black athletes while largely remaining silent as black voter power is being reduced in their states. The organization is also encouraging fans and alumni to redirect their donations to HBCUs.

The campaign comes after the Supreme Court, it ruled against the Louisiana. and a congressional map last month, a decision that, of course, weekend voting rights and advocates already saying that this is reshaping black representation across the south. And now the congressional black caucus, they are backing the effort of the NAACP. Let's listen to House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries. This is an unprecedented moment featuring an unprecedented attack on black political representation, and therefore it requires an unprecedented response. We are here standing in solidarity with the NAACP and its call for

athletes to boycott institutions within the SEC that belong to states that have unleashed these Jim Crow-like racially oppressive tactics and we believe that that the silence of these institutions is complicity. That's right. And we will not stand for it. So are they saying don't go to PWIs in the South? Or are they saying don't go to SEC schools in the South? Like I'm trying to understand what they're saying exactly.

I think they're trying to say a little bit of everything. They want you to redirect your funds, redirect your money. They're calling on student athletes not to play for those schools. And perhaps if you can go to an HBCU or go to a different school that's not in the south. But majority of HBCUs are in the south. I think you're so in PWIs though. PWI, though, I'm sorry.

Shard, PWI. Oh, got you, got you, got you. So the schools that I name like Ole Miss, a lot of Alabama State, a lot of those schools that have those powerhouse football teams and things like that, but haven't said anything about what's going on. So, yes, they're wanting you to leave those schools

and go to HBCUs, which are also in the south. The problem with that is we need more of our community to invest back in the HBCUs, right? The reason that a lot of students don't want to go to an HBCU if they're thinking about playing professionally is one, of course, the eyes, right? There are more eyes on PWIs. They're on bigger TV, bigger contract. And not only that, even like what Masterpiece said with his son, it's so I first went to an HBCU,

but the facilities, you know, the training facilities, the healing facilities, to make sure that the players can actually rehab better or better at PWIs and not as, you know, great and some HBCU. HBCUs have to beer. systemic funding. Exactly. So we have to make sure that we can give back to those HBCU so they can at least try to get on the same page of these PWIs to kind of

level of playing field because if not it is nothing you can do. And for an athlete, they need those facilities. They need those training facilities and if they can't train the same way of these PWIs it makes it very difficult. So and I'm just assuming Hakeem was talking about the 16 SEC school. Yes.

Specifically. That's what he said. Okay. All right. Gotcha. Yeah. So and that's a good point in me. I think that there's something that need to be looked into because you're asking them to give up one thing and in order to do that, they need to be met at the same level. So maybe that's something that the NAACP and other organizations that are calling for this can invest in because either way, HBCU, they need to be on the same playing field as some of those other PWIs.

And speaking of the South, Georgia voters, they have set up one of the biggest political showdowns of 2026. So former Atlanta mayor, Keisha Lambs, is now the Democratic nominee for governor after winning her primary outright Tuesday night. So she avoids a runoff by giving Democrats an early start in the state that they've been trying to flip for decades. So bottom now heads into the general election as the Democrats hoped, as they hope to win Georgia's governor's mansion for the first time since the 1990s. And meanwhile, on the flip side of that, Kentucky Republican Congressman Thomas Massey, he lost his reelection primary after President Trump endorsed his opponent, Ed Gowrain. Massey had previously broken with Trump on issues, including Iran, the

president's tax bill, and calling for the Jeffrey Epstein files. After conceding Tuesday night, Massey warned supporters about what he called the go-along to get along politics inside the Republican Party. Let's listen to some of his concession speech. I would have come out sooner, but I had to call my opponent and concede, and it took a while to find Ed Gowryne in Tel Aviv. I did get the call through though. I have called and conceded the race. We've been honorable the whole time, and we're going to stay that way. They used a lot of dirty tricks, but we stayed the course.

We did not. We didn't bend a knee. We didn't throw a foul ball. We didn't do any of those things. We had lots of opportunities to try a lot of stuff like that, and we never did it. We ran a clean race. Now, this was the most expensive house racing. history with around $34 million spent. A lot of A-PAC money went into this and a lot of, of course,

President Trump, he backed his opponent. And so Thomas Massey says, though, he will use the remaining of his time going after Trump and seeing what's in the Jeffrey Upsing Files while he still can. That is shaping up there. And now to an update, we talked about this yesterday, just a little bit, that Virginia Elementary School shooting. That trial is underway in Newport News. So that's the where the former assistant principal, Dr. Ebony Parker. She is on trial for failing to act as teachers warn that a six-year-old student may have had a gun on their first grade class. Now, during testimony yesterday, Parker's defense team, they pushed back against prosecutors. And I think you may have said this yesterday, Jess, arguing that teachers

and staff members, they also have the opportunity to stop the child but fail to act. Now, defense attorneys even questioned Zerner herself. She was a teacher who was shot about why the child remained in the classroom if the staff truly believed that she had a he had a gun and this is what she had to say listen okay so if he was on that presented a danger to your students is that correct okay um so you took no action to separate j t from his other classmates is that correct yes all right and so you allowed him to go out um to To recess, with I understand that, he may have had a gun. Is that correct?

Yes. You could have refused to let him to go to recess. You could have removed him from the presence of his other classmates. Is that correct? In hindsight, yes. Okay. What she said? I didn't hear the last point.

He said in hindsight, yes. So that was a teacher who got shot, right? That was a teacher who got shot. But the defense attorney was literally trying to prove a point that other teachers, if they knew, they also could have stepped and they also could have done something while everyone is saying that, you know, Parker, the assistant principal should have done something.

Her defense is saying, listen, if 5, 6, 7 teachers knew as well, why did you let them go to recess? Why didn't you, you know, clear the backpack? Why didn't you step in and do something? So basically to say she wasn't the only one. There was other authority in there that could have did something as well. There was other authorities.

But they also saying that that's her job. She's the one of the authority to search a student. So therefore trying to put it on the teachers is still risky because her job title was literally and she was trained for things like that. And so that's so as a trial continues today. But that's what happened yesterday. She is facing, if convicted, 40 years in prison

for failing to act. You know what I would like to see? I would like to see what exactly is she trained to do. Like, because I don't think that nobody's training, no teacher to search no first grader for guns. If that's the case, boy, we got some other problems. I mean, we know we got other problems in America we need to address. But I just wonder, is that was that actually part?

part of her training having to search kids for guns? I mean, the way they put it is that she went through the training. Like she took some of the courses on how to handle this or how to handle if there's an active shooter situation. So things like that, she particularly went through those trainings and had that

expertise is what I think they're trying to say. I do have a question. I know it doesn't matter. I just want to know for my own pleasure. Was the assistant people black or white? My own guilty pleasure. Like, I want to know. She was black. And the teacher who was white? It's white. And the student who did it was black.

Yeah. So who was the woman with the dreads that, well, they just had a picture up on the screen. The woman with the dreads is Dr. Parker. Got you. Yes. And that's a whole other back conversation too.

You know, if she had been another race, would we still? And that's my question. Where they still have blamed of if she would have been another race? Because this is the first time I'm hearing anything like this

and the fact that she could possibly get 40 years seems crazy. But this is also the same system that locked up Alan novison when he got into his situation like Virginia in the 757 area has been known to be racist when it comes to our own like it's been a known

fact and I've been to school down there and I'm sure people are calling say the same thing so I just hope they're not railroading this woman because she's black and she's the first American administrator to ever go to trial for something like this no other teacher or administrator has ever had to be on trial for something like this

so to your point NB it's it's raising a lot of questions you're not the only one questioning this it's an underlying topic right now, which a lot of people are pointing out. All right, well, that's your front page news. We're also talking about this on the podcast, front page, wherever you get your podcast. So please tune in and follow me at Mimi Brown TV. All right.

Thank you, Mimi. Thanks, girl. Now, when we come back, we have a comedian, business owner, entrepreneur, has a new show called Comics Unleashed. Byron Allen will be joining us. It's a great conversation. And we're going to talk to him next. So don't move.

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. is DJ NVV. Jess hilarious. Charlemagne de Guy. We are the breakfast club. Lorna Roses here as well.

We got a special guest in the building. One of my favorite people to talk to, man. Fire and out, ladies gentlemen. Welcome back. How are you feeling? Oh, my God. I feel great. And this is one of my favorite places to be.

So thank you for having me back. I really appreciate you. And congratulations on all of your success. Did I hear something about the number one show on Netflix? We are. Oh, no. Well, podcasting. Because Netflix got into the podcasting game.

So we make up 44% of all podcasts. doing on Netflix. Yes. There it is. Because you bring the truth. Real, authentic. You're bringing it. All right.

Do our best. No, you're doing it. I love talking to you, man, on and off air. I like getting you on air, though, because I get longer time. I feel like I'm bothering you. No, you never bother me. You never bother me. I never say no to you.

And remember that. Absolutely. You know, because I really love and appreciate you. I really love and appreciate you. I borrow a billion? A billion? Yeah. Would you have been Mo?

You got to say that thing That was Vindon, boy Even Vimaud be like, what just happened? You've had some very, very impressive announcements lately. Like, you're buying everything. Well, you know, this is... You bought BuzzFeed?

Or 10% of stars? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We bought just under 11%, 10.7%. I like stars. You know, stars says that they're going after the underserved. That's cold. for black. Don't tell anybody. So if you're going to go after us, maybe we should own it.

So if you're chasing us, we should own it. So Steve Mnuchin used to be my banker before he got into politics. He was the Treasury Secretary. And I saw that he owned 11%, just under 11%. And I called him up and I said, hey, do you want to own this steak in stars? It's publicly traded. and he said, you know, because I said, are you willing to sell it? He said, not at these prices.

And I said, well, I didn't give you a price. I just asked you a question. Are you willing to sell it? He said, let me think about it. He called me back. He said, I'll sell it for $25 million. I said, no problem. Let's do it with close tomorrow.

So I bought it. And it was a key move because it's hard to buy close to 11% of a company without driving up the price. because you're buying so many shares. So I was able to get it done quietly and under the radar. It was a really good move for us because we ended up being the second largest stockholder instantly. And now we have a seat at the table.

And so I've made it very clear. I plan to buy the whole company. I want to control that company. My first preference would be to keep it public and to take 52% of it and just control it. But they immediately adapted a poison pill. And they said, hold up. I saw that.

We do not want you to own this company or control this company. So they took a poison pill to stop me. And I said, that's okay. You know, that won't stop me. You'll just delay us. But we will eventually get what we want. My preference is for it to stay public and for me to control it, 51% or greater. But if I have to, I'll buy the whole company.

Fire everybody. Fire the board. Not the people working there. Get rid of the board for resisting me. And then take it back public. Have you reached out to somebody like 50 Cink? To me, 50 Cinn is the person who puts stars on the map. Yes.

I have not. Okay. I didn't want to put him in a bad place and, you know, have him to, you know, figure out what side, you know, just let him stay neutral, which I think is a smart place to stay. Let us duke it out in terms of who's going to own it, who's going to control it. But I'm highly confident eventually I will control stars. Can we go back to the beginning for people that don't know? You started off as a stand-up comic. Yes.

And you've created such an amazing fortune. Can you start how you started? What gave you the mind frame? And what made you think, you know, I love comedy, but I want to go this route as well. So start from there. You know what? You know, thank you for asking that question. Early on, I figured out it's not show business.

It's business show. And I started approaching it as a business. And that's important to me, that we approach things as a business. And so that's how I started. It started from my dining room table. You know, first I was a comedian. started at 14 years old. You know, as you know, my story, my mom got pregnant with me when she was 16, had me 17 days

after her 17th birthday, so born to a teenage mom in Detroit, Michigan, April of 61, born with no civil rights. And they murdered Martin Luther King in April of 68. And we ended, you know, Detroit got lit up like a Christmas tree. And we ended up going L.A. for a two-week vacation and ended up staying there. and my mom was like okay we're here we're gonna you know we stayed on a lot of sofas slept on a lot of sofas and spare bedrooms because she was a single mom with a kid that she had when she was 17 and I'm really blessed my mom is not only you know she's brilliant and she's

beautiful and she ended up going to UCLA and getting her master's degree in cinema TV production and because she got her master's degree in cinema TV production from one of the of the best film schools in the world, UCLA, she was able to go ask for jobs. And she went all over the country asking for jobs all over town, asking for jobs. And it was a lot of knows. And she got to NBC and she said, you know, you have a job here? And they said, no. And she said, do you have an intern program where I can work here for free and show you my passion for the business?

And they said, no, we do not have an intern program where you can work here for free. and then she asked a question that changed our lives forever. She said, will you please start one with me? And they said, yes. And that changed everything. So my mom couldn't afford child care. So she took her son to work with her. And so I would go to the studio and wait for my mom to get off from work in the summer.

And after school, and I was standing there just like a little kid, wallpaper up against the wall. And I'm watching this guy named Johnny Carson. do the Tonight Show. And then I would walk across the hall and I watch Red Fox tape Sanford and Son. This is Summer of 75. Wow.

And then I walk across the hall and watch Freddie Prince and Jack Albertson do cheek on the man. And then I would watch Bob Hope do his specials and I would watch George Burns and all of these great comedians, Richard Pryor, do the Flip Wilson show. I would watch Flip Wilson tape his show.

And I thought, what a wonderful way to go through life. making people laugh. So Gladys Knight and the Pips had a summer show Summer of 75 and they had a comedian on and I knocked on his door and I said, sir, how do you become

I'm 14 at the time? I said, how do you become a comedian? And he said, go to the comedy store. And I said, okay, thank you, sir. And I go, what's the name of that show that you said is going to be on in the fall? And he said, welcome back Cotter. And it was Gabe Kaplan. And it's, you know,

That's when they introduced John Travolta. And I went to the comedy store, called the comedy store. And they said, we have Monday night trial nights. Get here early because people, they get here. And we open the doors at 7 o'clock. I said, no problem. So I took the bus. I got there at 9 in the morning.

And the doors weren't open. And I sat there on the curb on sunset. And I just wrote jokes. And I just sat with my pad. And I wrote and all these thoughts in my head. and I'm just writing. And I went on stage. There were literally four people in the club.

Two couples. Four people, 200 chairs. And I thought to myself, I have to figure out how to make chairs laugh right now. I need to figure out how to get these chairs rolling. So I go up there and I give everything I got, boom, boom, boom. I come off stage and this guy says to me, hey, who wrote those jokes? I said, I did.

He goes, can I get you? your phone number. He says, you know, I know somebody may want to, you know, really be interested in knowing you. I said, no problem. I gave my phone number. And like a week or two later, I get this phone call. And I go, the guy goes, can I speak to Byron? I go, this is Byron. He goes, this is Jimmy at J.J. Walker. Oh, wow. So this is summer of 75. He's the biggest comedian television star planet Earth. Good times. Number one show. Dino Mike. Dino Mike. So I walk into Jimmy's, we got to get you the photo with me 14 years old. I'm sitting in Jimmy Walker's living room. And summer 75. And I walk in there, right? It's Jimmy Walker, David Letterman, Jay Leno. So when I sold this joke to Jimmy Walker for $25. And I'm like, I've never seen a check before. I take it to my mom and go, what is this? And my mom's like, it's a check. I go, what is? And I go, what is? And I go, what is? is a check. She goes, you're going to take it to the bank. You're going to give you the cash.

I said, oh, that's all right. Forget about it. Don't worry about it. She's like, what do you mean? I said, I don't want cash it. She goes, you're crazy? Well, this check says to me, I can make it in this business. I want to look at this check every day. And I framed it until this day, 51 years later, It hangs in my office. At what point in any of those moments did you realize I don't want to just be talent? I got to own the machine. As a kid in Detroit, I think coming from Detroit really helped me a lot too. My dad worked at Ford Motor Company for 30 plus years and my granddaddy worked at Great Lakes Steel for 30-something years.

And I watched these guys go to work and get to work an hour early every day, never late and never called in a day sick. That blue collar mentality. where it was just the work ethic was just like a force of nature. Show up every day and give 110%. So I was at that perfect blend of seeing it from both sides. And I remember my mother and my grandmother would put me in the car with my uncle, who's really like my brother. He's only four years older than me, Terrence.

And they would take us to see where all the rich white people lived. And they were like, that's where the Ford family lives. And look at this big mansion. Like, wow, look at that. That place is bigger than my school. And they were like, that's where the Dodge family lives, and the Chrysler family, and the Goody family, these industrial families. And they said, and that's where Barry Gordy lives.

A black man lives over here with this big, old nice house? Oh, yeah. He has a swimming pool in his house. Are you kidding me? You mean to tell me, I'm walking 30 minutes to get into the community swimming pool, or I'm waiting around for the fire department to open up a fire hydrant? and this dude has a pool in his house? Oh yeah.

He's got a bowling alley in his house. What? A bowling alley? Oh, my. Inspiration. Tell me more about this guy. His name is Barry Gordy, Motown Records, blah, blah, blah. I said, okay, there it is, right there.

I'm chasing him. I'm chasing him. And I'll never forget when he sold Motown, and he had every right to do it. I cried. I was in the room when they announced it. He was on stage and MCA Records bought it. I was back there and they had it up at Universal Studios.

How much with the four back then? I think it was $60 million. Wow. And I was like... A lot of money in that time. A lot of money. And he sold it, but he kept the publishing, being the brilliant, very gorty that he is.

And I thought, my God, we have to own something. As black people, we don't own anything. America can't be this wealthy without us. You can't... Anybody can be very wealthy with hundreds of years of free. labor. Anybody can be a gazillionaire, but we don't own it. And I said, we have to own something.

And I decided, I'm going to build something that we will own. It has to be owned by us. We have to control the narrative. We have to control how we're produced. We have to control how we're depicted and how we're seen around the world. We can't let others do that. And the key to that

is to understand it and approach it as business show not show business. So what does that mean? I have to get to know everybody who owns and operates a television station. No problem. I traveled the country as a comedian

and what I would do is invite all the people who owned and operated television stations come to my show. And if they couldn't come to my show, I'd go to their station. Now I have to get to know all the advertisers. So wherever I go, I go sit down with the advertisers. Now I can put the two together

and I started the company from my dining room table and I put on my first show entertainers with Byron Allen fall of 93. Is this under the Allen Media Group? Yeah, this is under Allen Media Group. It's a one hour show. There's 14 minutes of commercial time.

I'll keep seven minutes. You, TV station, you keep seven minutes. I will sell my seven minutes to national advertisers. You sell your seven minutes to local advertisers. I had a guy say to me, Hey, if you

was an ad sales guy. He goes, if you clear 75% of the country, I will give you an advance of 400 grand so you can go into production. I said, no problem. Sat at my dining room table from sun up to sundown for a year. More holes in my dining room chairs. And I called all

1,200 television stations from sunup to sundown, asked them to pick up this once a week show for free, where I would keep half of the commercial time inside the show. And literally, I got 50 to 100 nose from each of them. And after working through 50,000 plus nose, I was able to squeeze out 150 yeses.

And that was a TV station in every market from New York to Waterloo, Iowa. And I was able to then say to advertisers, look, I can give you X, Y, Z percent of the country. I went to the guy and said, you know what, you tell me if I cleared 75% of the country, you would give me 400 grand. I've cleared 95% of the country,

some far greater than 75, whatever it was. And he said, I changed my mind. I'm not going to give you the 400 grand. And I thought, my God, I just spent a year of my life building out this lineup. And what really, the defining moment for me was back then was my mom was doing my paperwork. And I remember, and she would, you know, whenever I got a station cleared, she would put it onto the clearance list. And I noticed, I said, Mom, you didn't put down that I cleared. the CBS affiliate in Wilkeshire,

Scranton, and she's shuffling all these papers around. She's shuffling and I'm like, Mom, you've got to be more organized. Like, this is really hard to get. She goes, Byron, they didn't, it didn't send it back. So I called the guy up and I said, Bob, it appears as if my executive assistant has

misplaced your paperwork. And he said, no, she didn't misplace it. He goes, I know I told you I would do the deal, but I changed my mind. I'm not doing the deal. I'm not putting you on. Saturday night at 11.30. And I said,

you're good, man. I said, I said, are you serious, Bob? He said, I had some sales guys in here, three of them, from Paramount Studios. And they came in to sell me a show, and they told me I should give them your time period, the 1130. He said, they told me you were calling me

from your dining room table in your underwear, your pajamas, whatever you're wearing, and that the show is never going to be there. And if it is there, you're going to put it on for two or three weeks. And then you're going to cancel the show. So I gave him your time period. And that is what it is and goodbye. And he hung up the phone.

Right? He hung up. He hung up. He called him back. Right. He said, Bob, the boys from Paramount are right. I am calling you from my diner room table. The show is going to be on the air and tell the boys from Paramount,

I'm never going to cancel the show because of what they did. I'm going to leave the show on until the end of time because I'm never going to let the boys from Paramount come into a TV station and cast doubt on me and my abilities and I never want them to convince anybody in this world that I'm not going to do what I say I'm going to do. So let the boys from Paramount know

you got this clearance but you'll never get another one from me based on you telling people I'm not going to come through. I'm going to leave it on until the end of time. never canceling the show. Just tell them that. So fast forward. Kept smiling and dialing and smiling, put on another show, another show, another show.

Next thing you know, we're sitting there with 70-something television shows, 75-plus TV shows, in business with every television station in the country, and pretty much 700-plus advertisers. Ended up with the largest privately held television library. And then I realized, hey, I want to go into the linear space. So then I started launching cable networks,

so we could be 24-7. And then the opportunity for the Weather Channel came along. Guy came to me and he said, hey, can I have dinner with you? I said, sure. I said, let's have dinner. He said, I used to be the CEO of a chief operating officer of the Weather Channel. He says, you don't think about the Weather Channel because you live in L.A., and it's always 80 degrees and sunny.

He goes, but it's a great business and you should buy it. He said it's owned by two private equity firms that manage like a trillion dollars and NBC Universal and they're not getting along and they want to say, sell it and you should get in there and go get it. I got into the process and I bought it. And after that, we just started buying other assets, invested about a billion dollars buying ABC, NBC, CBS, and Fox affiliates. I bought those affiliates so that I could protect my cable networks, right?

So we can grow that. And then we started investing now in digital platforms. And fast forward, now you just purchased the 1130 time slot. On CBS. Yes. With Paramount. From Paramount. Different management, different ownership.

It became all around. Yes, that's crazy. Yeah, it came around. Yeah, the boys from Paramount. That moment, if they hadn't said that to him, it was like, did you just tell that dude I'm not going to do what I'm going to do? I'm going to do it, damn it. When do you have the time for all of this?

With all the businesses that you run, everything that you do, when do you have the time to do this? See all these suits you got in? You got three suits? And you're still so connected to people. Like a lot of people will get to the point where you are, they get in that bubble. But you're still a business for the people. Yeah, look, I am for the people.

I mean, I've always been. That's how I, you know, that's my whole life. Since, well, I'm 65, 51 years of standing on a stage connecting with people. I still do stand up, right? I still go to the comedy store and the improv. And hang, I was, Dion, I went to go see Dion and Cole. He brought me up on stage and we had a black, we have fun.

I love Dion. He's one of my favorite human beings on the planet. And it's just, I love being connected. And for me, the other thing is, I feel it's so like, okay, so, look, I get into a position to put on television, whatever I want to put on TV. Why is it important that we have a seat at the table? What do I put on television?

What did I put on TV? I have on 13 hours a day of television. 13 hours a day. No human being has ever accomplished that. But nine of those hours are court shows. Ebony K. Williams. Nine of those hours.

Nine different judges. Okay? As legal scholars, I have one. Two African American men. Judge Ross, Judge Mathis. Two Latinos and five African American women, including Ebony K. Williams,

who just got nominated for a critic's choice of war. Equal justice. Equal justice. Okay. So when these other media outlets had an opportunity to put on shows, they put shows on with white male hosts and young black men showing their butts, dancing and screaming, I'm not the baby daddy. The test came back. I'm not the baby daddy. I'm not the and it's like, is that how you're going to depict me as a black man?

That's not the, those are the black men I grew up with. That wasn't my granddaddy Leroy. That wasn't my granddaddy Charles. That wasn't my daddy, Alvin. Those men, they were all over me. They were chasing me. My granddaddy used to sit up on the porch. And when I went out to play in Detroit, he watched me like a hawk because he knew I could get in trouble because a lot of the kids in my neighborhood ended up dead or in prison. So he was straight up, boom, you can go outside.

I'm going to sit right here. I'm going to drink this beer and I'm going to watch you. When those streetlights start to flicker, I want your black butt up on this porch. those aren't the men I grew up with so I'm not going to let you depict them like that I'm going to let you depict them as to who they were hardworking brave kind generous loving

protective so I'm going to show images of who we really are that's the power of TV that's the power of podcasting radio you're sharing these stories that nobody else is sharing nobody's opening up the mic and saying here's who we are I'm just going to paint you as the drug dealer

I'm just going to paint you as the one robbing people. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. There's so much excellence in our community, and I'm going to make sure it shine. That's the power of having that seat at the table. All right, well, don't move. We got more with Byron Allen, actually after Donkey of the Day. Yeah, man, Byron, a conversation is an hour and 40 minutes.

You can watch the full thing on Netflix in a little while, but, you know, the conversation was so long. It's so good that you know, why don't I keep barring on for a couple hours? That's right. So we got the latest coming up, then the donkey, then we're going to get back to our conversation with Byron Allen. All right? So don't go anywhere.

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Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, Nick? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.

We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential. title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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I'm the home guy that knows a little bit about everything and everything. The little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you. Take me through that. Take me through that. Where is she gone? with Lauren Lewis. On the breakfast club. L.L. Coulbe.

Talk to me. So, Clarissa Shields is now responding to the band that was placed on her by MVP promotions following her slapping Alicia Baumgartner at the Ronda Rousey fight. But for those who don't remember, let's take a listen to the altercation

that God is here first. You're going to meet. I'm going to be my... We're with. We're with. We got another phone. You don't know you're going to have to do you want to have no ass You don't know why don't believe

I'm calling it I'm calling it, I'm doing it. Y'all added some extra sauce to that slap I don't understand no I don't understand why people are upset about this situation Two combat fighters in each other face arguing going at it One fighter threatens the other fight and other fighter slaps That's the way the game goes

Yeah, but it's not in the ring, right? You're not supposed to do that. But we see it all the time with the guys. These guys be jumping each other and enthrouds be fighting. That's what I'm saying. If the guys are suspended a band, I understand, but if the guys, if the men are not suspended a band, I don't know how you just do the women.

And I hate to say that situation is much, much lighter than what happened in Detroit when they got into each other's face, even though they was fighting, and she shoved her, and then there was a whole melee. Mele. Mele. What's like at all the way in? Mele.

Mele? I don't know. I don't try to say. Mayle. They get physical. And I feel like at all the way ends or whatever, although it's not they fight. Like, the fighters, they hit each other at the way in.

So the issue with this was that. That wasn't even a, they don't fight. There's nothing signed up. That was the issue. Is that right? That's what people are upset about, but people were pushing back on, even what the Charlemagne said up here yesterday

when he said that this should be fine because they're saying they don't have a fight lined up. This isn't anything promotional. But they've been going back on first. It is, though. Because this is because they're fighters. Now you want to see them in the ring. Yeah, because I just.

I really want to see what Alicia Baumgartner is about. Well, Clarissa Shield spoke out yesterday. She posted another angle more closer up of the video because she says that this is being talked about unfairly and she's threatening legal action. She says she's dedicated her life to the sport of boxing through the grace of God. She's been blessed.

And she says, well, circulated online does not tell the full story until now. She says she doesn't condone violence. She never has. But also she doesn't condone, but she's not somebody that will stand in silence as she's being verbally attacked, threatened, discriminated against.

and assassinated when it comes to her character. And she says she's not going to allow the reality of disrespect to turn into a narrative or talk about colorism or envy, which is which some people try to turn this into, the way that the women look. And she says that there are attacks. She alleged that there are attacks by Alicia Baumgartner that are documented in history. And she said there's been threats over the past four years that led up to this moment. So pictures are there's a difference between conversations and actually putting hands on somebody.

Yeah, yeah, no, for sure. You just say that all the time. I can say whatever I want to you, if you, hit me, that's assault, right? No, but what if you threatened me? She threatened her. You're telling me you're going to beat my ass. I'll look your ass right now.

Let me defend myself right now, then. Y'all keep playing like Clarissa don't got Top Dog Law on Speed Dog. Y'all go out of the hall. Top Dog Law. Yeah, and she's also threatening anyone who is, you know, covering this inaccurately and having conversations about this inaccurately.

Who better keep Top Dog Law on Speed Out? Shut up. She's saying that any defamation of character will be handled accordingly with her legal team because, and you know, on the other side, Alicia Baum Gardner, there is conversation about whether she will move forward legally with any action

because of the slap as well too. So, you know, she just clarifies some things here. This is all good promotion for once they decide to actually get in the ring. God damn it. Yeah. We'll see what happens following this. Yeah, like you said, it's all good promotion. I agree.

Now, going down to Atlanta, speaking of promotion, so Marlon Wayans and Sean Wayans were at the scary movie premiere that they did Atlanta, and they were asked on the carpet about Kevin Hart's roast in the George Floyd jokes. Let's take a listen. Find a right joke is going to war. There's going to be casualties. And unfortunately, some of the jokes didn't land the way that they possibly could have. And so, you know, the consequences in the quietness of the laugh.

Yeah, we can't have controversy every time. Somebody tells a joke. Every time someone tells a joke, we're killing our own culture. It's not good. One part comedian, one part black man. So, you know, the other part of it is, if you're going to go there, make sure that joke is really, worth it. But for us as comedians, you know, we got to keep trying. You got to keep

diving in these dark waters and looking for some light. You know, there's things in the movie that we decided not to put in because it was like, we felt like it hurt the temperature of the movie. We're trying to do a movie to make everybody feel good. And so some things, if it's going to make people go, that, ugh, that, it stays with you.

I don't want that. I want to be hot. And Kevin, stop doing dumb shit, because I got to walk this line instead of talking about scary movie, I got to be a fucking by your dumbass little roast. Yeah, I just don't, I don't think nobody funny enough to turn to George Floyd situation and there's something that will make people laugh.

It's just enough. Not at all. It's a violent, tragic death at the hands of the police. Nothing funny at all. Nothing. Absolutely not. But what I did think about yesterday after seeing that video

because I saw it yesterday too? Yo, what if they did a roast? I don't know who they were roast, but what if all the wanes were doing the roasting? Yo. I'm talking about all of them. Marlon. You just want to see all of them on stage together.

So bad. Yeah. And the sisters? Sister, low-key funny than everybody. Kim, yeah. Like, Kim is low-key funny than everybody. Like, yo, can we, can we imagine that? But people would have to, like, joke back with them.

Who's going to want to go, all of them versus? I mean, it would have to be another comedian. Yeah, but, like, you got all of them together. I feel like that's kind of a bit. Unless they roast, it's a roast. Unless they roast Keenan or they roast them. Unless each other. Yeah, one of the, one of the others.

The older ones. They should Owe's, yeah. I mean, they should roast. They should roast caning. Yeah, Keen. All of the brothers and, and Kim, Rose Canaan. That'll be funny. Well, scary movie comes out

on June 5th and the point of scary movie is to attack or fight back at cancel culture. So we'll see what they, what conversations they cause in this new film. I can't wait to see it. Yes. And in the next latest we'll be talking about Drake. And if Drake and Lubbant should sit down for a conversation.

He started touching his breasts as soon as you said Drake. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know. What kind of waffle-colored you know, fantasies you haven't over there but don't know. Okay. I said you want to touch your breasts. Who are you giving a donkey to, sir?

Damn. You're just nasty, man. Logan, could you just slam your daddy all summer? He's just nasty. He just come up here to be gay. It's just like you got an animal instinct to want to flirt. I don't even know what you're talking about. I just said who you're giving your donkey to.

You were doing that. Hey. What you did? Is he on drugs? I don't know. It's usually me. Jesus, Christy, waffle-colored knee. He's just in a good spirit today.

His team went last night. He got me. A lot going on. Anyway, before after the hour, we need President Tiffany Hernandez of Glendale Community College to come to the front of the congregation. I'm trying to tell y'all right now, AI cannot replace everything, and it only can if we let it. We'll discuss. All right. We'll get to that Nexus to Breakfast Club.

Good morning. Damn, the Hockey Up the Day. It's time for Donkey of the Day. I'm ain't trying to be Donkey Today no more. They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm not making these people do these things. called donkey of the day and it really caught me off guard. Damn, Salome, who got the donkey of the day today?

Well, just hilarious, donkey today for Wednesday, May 20th, goes to President Tiffany Hernandez of Glendell Community College and Glendell Community College as a staff, record label, and Mother F in school, okay? I'm telling you right now that we are about to experience what I call the great disconnect. You are going to have a large swath of society that completely submits to the robots. They're going to completely submit the AI. Those are going to be the people who are proud citizens of a techno feudalist society. If you don't know what techno feudalism is,

please read a great book called Technofutilism, What Killed Capitalism, by Yainas Varufakis. I think that's how you pronounce the name. I can never pronounce it. That sounds crazy. But the name of the book is techno feudalism, what killed capitalism. But the rest of us are going to disconnect because nobody wants to spend the rest of their life going on social media questioning what's real or not.

Okay, I'm not doing it. Swiping constantly, asking yourself, is this real? sending links to people and they hitting you back like that's not real I don't have the mental and emotional bandwidth to live like that and also in our line of work the radio industry there are already some things being done by AI technical stuff and I hate it okay because AI is not a human and when it comes to the details nothing beats a human touch all right AI does not micromanage okay I'm not even sure AI does the basic macro stuff good yet but I don't want people using AI to cut clips for Breakfast Club. I don't want people using AI to title things and create descriptions because

AI gets a lot wrong. And that is why Tiffany Hernandez and Glendale Community College need to be at the front of the congregation today because they decided to use AI for something that absolutely 100% needs a human touch. And that's a graduation ceremony. Yes, someone at Glendale Community College thought it would be a great idea to have AI announce the students' names. And this happens. Let's go to WRL for the report, please. What a mess for everyone involved here at Glendale Community College. Students work so hard to get to this point to get their diploma and graduate, and they say the school should have been better prepared. Michael D. Gonzalez. The names being read during GCC's commencement didn't appear to match who was walking across stage. India Hall.

Then the names at the bottom of the screen stopped changing. Azusina de Mesa Jimenez. Then the the screen on the left goes blank. I was honestly just proud to be there in the moment. It was only after Grace Reimer crossed the stage and returned to her seat that she realized something was off. Here's the photo. That's her on stage. That's not her name. I also didn't hear a lot of cheering and I know that my family is a pretty loud family. Several minutes later. Grace Marie Reimer. She finally heard her name. Yeah, that's not right. And it definitely made me feel uneasy. Here's what's happening. We're using a new AI system as our reader.

So that is a lesson learned for us. Bang. This story is the perfect example of people using AI because they're lazy for no reason. Okay, I mean, what is the point of using AI for these kids' graduation? Is it really too much to ask to have a couple of people stand up and read names? Okay, are we really just go let the robots have everything? We're concerned about AI taking the kids? jobs, but we're giving away the easy ones like this. Okay, you adults are busy trying to save time,

maybe money, I don't know, but you're completely missing the point of the moment. Graduation isn't just some assembly line event. You can't treat these kids like products on a conveyor belt. Some fall off, some don't, some get labeled wrong, some get labeled right, some get stamped, some get thrown away. This is a once-in-a-lifetime ceremony for these kids. Families drove in, Okay, students spent years and thousands of dollars hustling And you turned the most personal part Hearing your name called So you can do a little dance

To some pumping circumstance Y'all turn that to just a glitch in the matrix Okay, and the irony of this story What really bothers me, these schools spend years Telling students, don't use chat GPT, okay? Don't use AI to plagiarize, do the work yourself, Don't let AI do it for you Then as soon as it's time for the administration

To do their work, they bring in RTD, who. RTD2. R2D2. What's the thing name for you thought was? R2D2. R2D2, okay? They bring in Wally, all right?

They bring an Optimus Prime. They bring in a Terminator, okay, to do all the work for them. What would you do if you found out your fitness trainer was secretly using Ozimic and Zep bound, but was always speaking to you about the dangers of weight loss drugs? Would you trust him? No, you wouldn't, okay? Hey, Young World, Generation Z, where does AI rank in your top five in regards to your growing list of resentments? I know y'all got, I know y'all hate hustle culture.

That's up there. Climate change. Capitalism. America being beholden to Israel. Where does rapid, unchecked integration of AI into your lives and workplace rank? All right. You have a whole generation who already feel like technology is replacing jobs, creativity, and human connection.

And this incident at Glendale Community College is just another example of that. Okay. Glendale Community College, you have proven that common sense is now an elective course. Okay, using AI to announce human names at a graduation and the robot was skipping people like Spotify skipping songs on shuffle. This is the problem with society. Okay, everybody wants efficiency over expense. AI can't guarantee efficiency. But happy, well-paid humans can.

Okay, I'm not even sure AI knows what efficiency is. I damn sure know that AI doesn't understand empathy or the importance of a moment. And when this robot messed up these kids' names, all President Tiffany Hernandez and the administration could offer is the corporate classic. We apologize for the inconvenience. Man, skipping someone's name at graduation

is more than an inconvenience. Okay, imagine being the first person in your family to graduate college. And your old grandma sitting there waiting to hear your name and she doesn't. And she thinks she's losing her hearing because she never heard your name, but she knows she saw you walk across stage.

Got that old lady thinking she's going crazy and it's your fault. This is why people are scared of AI, not because the technology exists, but because humans keep using it to replace moments that require actual humanity. Okay, some things require soul, and that's what AI will never have. Please give President Tiffany Hernandez of Glendell Community College the biggest he-ha. I see your dumbass beige wheels turning. I see them stupid-ass waffle. colored wheels turning.

I'm just saying. What is your brain thinking, man, that is the color of dirty urine? Remember when Webby was up here and Webby couldn't pronounce those names? Now, listen. Now, some of those names. I see what you're doing. Some of those names. That's different.

Now, if I had to choose who to say the names, okay? If it's Webby, if it's me, because I can't really pronounce that well, if it's just hilarious, then maybe you think AI. Okay. If it's you. I'm going to AI. Maybe. I just got to see who else is available for us.

What other humans are available? Some of them names. What other humans are available? I'm really good with pronouncing people's names. I'm really good with pronouncing people's names. Yes, I am. Then when you go to other coaches. I'm real good with pronouncing people's names.

It's not just your American name, not your Thompsons and your Jackson's when they go into the name. You started this. The African. What's the African? That you named the author with the book? He's not African? You said, what was it? He's not African. He's like, he made a sound.

He made the same. African out. Yannas Varoufakis. Exactly. That is definitely wrong. Yeah. That's not right.

I don't know if I'm wrong. So now you're a professor. Aramaurufakas. That sounds like you cursed somebody. Mad spit everywhere. So I get why they did AI. No, no, no.

Then we go to the Asian name, African names, but you scrape the bottom of a barrel. Hmm? Uh-huh. Webby? Yeah. All right.

Me? Yeah. Jeff O'Lari? Like, why do you keep saying, Jassilarat. You know what? You know how to pronounce.

You know people can hear you. You know they can hear you? Yeah, hello, hello, yeah. I don't mess people names up. I may mess up other things, but not people's names. Here. We can't even say Spanish names right. Like it would be Riviera.

I can. Hold on. Like, what are we talking about? Okay. Try playing with me. Give her name. Okay, give a name. All right, give her name.

Okay. This can be good. This can be good. What I'm saying? Pronounce that. Pronounceed that guy. Technofuelism. No, girl.

Oh. See what I'm saying? Yes, no. Shut up. Janis Barroot? Yeah, exactly. Verufis. Now they're on state.

That ain't mad because you said that name wrong. Verufi. You cursed on the radio three times already. Baru Fawkes. Yes. Stop cursing. Ain't African. He's not African.

All right. What is he? He's not African. Exactly. So that, see, we just made the point. We can't say any names. So that professor go up there. But that doesn't mean you let AI.

Yes. You don't let AI. And I know I was messed up. Yesterday I posted a picture of AI and cut my arm up. I didn't even see my arms off. Only had one arm. But, you know, but. But once again.

for a graduation ceremony that needs a human touch, bro. Yeah, it does. Even if you up there mispronouncing people's names, you know, you got to make sure you get the names right, but that's why you practice.

If you know that you're doing a college graduation, you practice beforehand to make sure you have the pronunciation right. They'd be like 2,000 names. I don't care. I don't care. You got to make sure

that you pronounce their names right. 2,000 names. It's a graduation. The professor has never seen them kids? It's a college graduation. That's how important a day like that is. Exxed by their name. Yes.

You pronounce. You practice pronouncing the names if you're the person pronouncing the name. That's right. By the way, that's what I would do. I could do it if I'm like Batman. You give me some time to prepare. I'll get it done, okay?

Janis Varufakis, yes. That is his name, y'all. It just took you four times to figure it out. You only got one shot. I said it right all times, but you got to read that name, Sula. Thank you for that donkey today. Now, when we come back,

Byron Allen was with us last hour. We're going to play some more of that interview. We spoke to him for about an hour and 40 minutes. And if you don't know who he is, he's the owner of the Weather Channel. the owner of BuzzFeed BuzzFeed Huffington Pose

He's tasty Tasty And it also community He has a new show Another name to read Here we go Comics Unleash

This is good What's this word? Phonetically Don't She did go to She did go To She went to Baltimore

Community College She goes to words She goes to words Let me alone All right Just the breakfast Come on it Morning everybody

It's DJ NV Jess hilarious Salami The guy We are the Breakfast Club. Law and the Roses here as well. We're still kicking it with Byron Allen.

Sholamay. I know you've been there for a while, so I've got a couple more questions. No, no. You fight a lot of corporate fights, right? Yeah. And I know you reached a settlement with McDonald's over the $10 billion lawsuit that you filed in 2012. In 2021, you said that they discriminated against black-owned media companies. Why do you think corporate America is comfortable profiting off black culture but hesitant to invest in black ownership?

Obviously, I can't speak on the McDonald's settlement because that was a $10 billion lawsuit. And part of the settlement is, don't ever speak about it. about it again. Here's what I would say, here's what I would say about white corporate America in general. The greatest trade deficit in America is the trade deficit between white corporate America and black America.

And until we close that trade deficit, we cannot achieve one America, which is what Martin Luther King died for. He was attempting to achieve one America. You know, Corretta Scott King was a friend of mine and I wanted to learn a lot about Martin Luther King and I really wanted to learn from her point of view. And she said to me, Byron,

they didn't kill my Martin over the I Have a Dream speech. They killed him over the speech that he gave at Stanford University in February of 68. They murdered him two months later. In that speech, he gave that speech, which was the other America. And he said in that speech, there are two Americas. One America has actually.

access to opportunity and economic inclusion. And two Americas will not survive. We must achieve one America. At that point, he had already achieved civil rights. He was pushing for economic inclusion and education for all Americans, especially poor white Americans. And they were like, if this dude pulls together poor white people and black people, we got a problem.

That was the next month. Who was the poor people's march? Yeah, he was going to deliver half a million poor people to the nation's capital. and I am I'm making a movie about that right now and that they said the generals said if he delivers half a million poor people

to the nation's capital there could be an overthrow they could overthrow the country there could be an uprising he could overthrow the country he cannot deliver half a million poor people mainly white people to the nation's capital

we must kill him where he starts so you know Avery Duveney and I we're working on a she's right She's written on the amazing screenplay, and we're writing about the whole trial of what happened and how 70 people walked into a courtroom and testified as to what they did to organize the murder of Martin Luther King. And after 12 jurors, six men, six women, six blacks, six whites,

listened to this testimony, a case no one knows about that actually happened. In 1999, the verdict came back that the United States government murdered Martin Luther King. That's the verdict. That's a trial nobody knows about. So Ava has written an amazing screenplay. We're making a movie about it. But in that speech, he said there are two Americas, and we have to achieve one America.

And that's the issue. And I remember Coretta Scott King telling me that. And I said, you and Martin, because they murdered him at age 39, I said, you and Martin, you did more than enough. It's our term, this generation, to achieve the fourth and final chapter. Because she said, Byron, as black people, we have three major challenges. Number one, end slavery. Number two, right?

Number one, that's a big one. Achieve, you know, end slavery. Number two, achieve civil rights. Number three, she said, and she starts to like, she starts to tear up. You know, she gets, she got really emotional, you know, and she said, you know, these, because she grew up with this part that really, She was born picking cotton. She picked cotton as a little girl.

And she used to sit on the porch and listen to them talk about who got hung that she knew. So it was number one, I'm sorry, it was number one in slavery. Number two, end Jim Crow. That was really personal because the little girl she worried every day about her father being lynched. Number three, achieve civil rights. And then she choked up again like she choked up about her father. She said number four, achieve economic inclusion. And I said, we will deal with the fourth and final chapter.

Economic inclusion. So she said she laid it out, slavery, Jim Crow, civil rights. And it was simple. It was clear as day when she laid it out to me. It's never been black or white. It's never been black or white. We've always thought black and white. It's always been black and white.

It's always been green. Green was the color, not black, not white. Why did they bring us here from Africa? They brought us here from Africa to build the wealth, the greatest wealth on planet Earth. Why did they start the genocide against us? Because we were freed and they did not want to compete with us for the green. So what did they do? They started the economic genocide by using, you will not have access to education.

No education. You won't have access to economic inclusion. Bank loans. Money that's not predatory. Economic inclusion. You won't have it. That's genocide. That's economic genocide.

I will squeeze you out through lack of education and lack of economic inclusion. It's economic genocide. and I've always said this country did base that off race though I mean there was a cash system in this country Oh absolutely But it was about the whole thing is Money money money money don't

Don't compete with me For the money And if you don't have an education You're not going to compete with me And if you don't have access to capital That's not predatory You're not going to compete with me So it's this is where I brought you

Here to make me rich Not to compete Why would I bring you here To compete? I'm not giving you any of this great American economic pie, you are here to make me rich and to be a consumer. So you have to decode all of that. And I've always said they kill us in the, you know, in the school room by making sure we don't

get a proper education. And they kill us in the boardroom by making sure we don't have economic inclusion. And they kill us in the courtroom by making sure we don't have equal justice long before. they kill us in the streets. More brothers and sisters are taken out in that school room, in that boardroom, and in that courtroom than you can ever imagine.

Far greater than the ones taken out in the streets. Those are the ones we see and those are we witness and that's horribly violent. But it's equally as violent when you say, I'm going to make sure you don't have a proper education. And then go, oh, look at that. I got all these young brothers and sisters doing

smash and grabs and running into stores and stealing bags for 50 cents made for China, made in China for 50 cents. And I'm like, I don't want to hear about your crime. Don't talk to me about crime until you lean in and you invest in

education. And you make sure each and every one of these kids get a proper education. And then you make sure each and every last one of these kids have a pathway to be integrated into corporate America. And you make sure each and every last one of these kids are not getting 30% longer sentences than their white counterparts. Do that. And then we can talk about crime. But you and I

both know you have designed the system for us to fail. You and I both know you make more money off of incarceration than education. And you have structured it so that we fail and not succeed and don't compete. So let's talk about crime when you educate every kid in this country to the fullest extent. We're still kicking it with Byron Allen. Yes, he was on last hour in this hour. We spoke to him about

an hour, 40 minutes. He's very long winded, but he has a lot of knowledge. But he's got so much going on. So he is long winded, but it's good information. But he also has a lot going on. This Friday, he replaces Stephen Colbert's late show with comics

unleashed. He just bought BuzzFeed. He just bought the Huffington Pose. He just bought a percentage of stars. Byron got too much going on. That's right. So let's get back into that interview. So what is your outlook on? I know you got to go your outlook on. I'll have to go anywhere. I'm hanging out with you. What does your outlook on HBCUs then? Well, I'm a big investor in HBCUs.

I am the largest, you know, I control more HBCU sports than anybody. I control like 97% of all HBCU sports. What I did was is I looked at HBCU. You bought HBCU Go, right? Yeah, I started HBCU Go. And so I and started buying the sports rights from these colleges. And I said, look, this is crazy.

Like, we are the best talent out there. But, you know, Dion Sanders said to me, Byron, I'm mowing the lawn at Jackson State. I'm mowing the lawn. We have rat-infested practice facilities. Okay? And I'm like, okay, this is ridiculous. So I went and bought the sports rights, started producing the games, putting them on broadcast television, putting them on our cable network, the griot, putting them on our street.

putting them on our streaming platform, and I'm investing more and more in HBCUs. I want everything commensurate with what we represent. I want 15% of your ad budgets to go to black home media. I want 15% of those chairs in these schools to go to black students. Okay? This is what, you know, when I went to Obama and, you know, and people, you know, and I really do love Obama, right?

I do love the brother. and I have enormous respect for him. And I didn't say a word when he was first term. When he became second term, I said, listen up, brother, I need a couple of things from you. This is when I became critical of him. And I said, look, you control two things that are easy to do. All you have to do is say to the banks, hey, banks, you're not lending money to black people. And I'm going to audit you.

And I'm going to see if you're lending money to black people. And you will see that black people can't get home. loans car loans business loans student loans that's important just say that just say you're gonna audit and make them live up to the laws that are on the books and I said I only need one other thing from you the government has a one trillion dollar government worker pension fund a pension fund of government worker money I said I want 15% of that money allocated to African American investors and I said if you take that one hundred and fifty billion dollars that

should be allocated to the African-American community for investment and marry it with banks. Overnight, the black community has the ability to buy a trillion dollars worth of businesses. That puts us, that changes the game. That's the fourth and final chapter of black America, economic inclusion. And we can't do it without education. We can't do it without access to capital that's not predatory. We have to be owners the way we were in Africa. we owned it

we have to be the same owners here in America you know I know what you're saying is true I mean I know what I say it's true because it's true but you know when you look at the Supreme Court ending affirmative action and college admissions in 2023 and then you see you know black students at top schools the percentage of black students at top schools dropping because of that yeah

you know they want to keep us out of absolutely absolutely because that's the pathway to success and economic inclusion that's it you know it's like it's a game jail. Look at my CFO. He went to a HBCU. He went to an HBCU. He went to Hampton. That's the best one. Okay, so he went to the best one. You went there? There you go. To my little hand to there. There you go. So Chris Malone went to an HBCU, but he also went to Harvard and got his MBA. But I met him when he was at a private equity firm managing billions of dollars. He loaned me the money to buy the weather channel.

Now, would he have gotten that job if he didn't have that job? If he didn't have that, at Harvard as well? So it was great that his pedigree and his foundation is an HVCU, Hampton, but it's also great that that MBA is from Harvard. Boom, he's ushering into a private equity firm. He's sitting at a room where they're talking

about moving billions of dollars. He's just giving people the game, Byron, it is a game. You're just telling them how to play. And you can't play the game, I'm not here to play the game. I'm here to own the game. If you play the game, it's rig for you to lose.

If you own the game, then you own the game. Every day I wake up, I'm about owning the game. What can I buy today? Because when I buy it, I control it. And when I control it, then it's going to go the way it should go. Black images will be better. Black images will be elevated in a powerful, uplifting way. Right?

When I trusted my white counterparts to do it, I'm dancing around Tom up. Look at this DNA test. Check this out, baby. Check out this DNA. All right, baby. I got away with this one. All righty. Yeah, I've never heard of a condom, so that's why I'm worried right now.

Oh, yeah, baby. No, that's not. That's not it, baby. That's not it. We own the game. This is our moment to invest. I'm like, I'll sit there and I said, you know, I know if I buy a publicly traded company, others in our community will start thinking publicly traded.

And they're going to grow them. and they're going to invest in them. And it's a pathway for us to own a piece of something as a community, whether it's a publicly traded company I control or it's a publicly traded company you control or another one that you like. You'll wake up one day. You'll be the largest stockholder in Iheart. It's a different feeling when you walk in this building

and you say I own 10% of this place. It's a different vibe. Next thing you know, like I wouldn't mind sitting on the board. It's a different vibe. God knows they're making a bunch of money off of you. Why not have a seat on the board? Why not have equity? You should be on the board of black effect, Byron Allen.

I'm sorry. I see not already. No, never mind. We'll talk about that. I'll do anything to support you. But I just want us to think that way. We have to beat education. And then we can have one America.

And then when we have one America with education and economic inclusion, guess what? You have to turn all those prisons. and to warehouses for boxes and not humans. Release all the black men and women. Because now you've educated them. Now you've given them access to capital. And now we're part of the American fiber.

And now the great American tribe is even greater because every American is positioned to bring their excellence. Byron Aaron. Byron, gentlemen. We appreciate you for joining us. You got to come back more often, though. brother. I know you got a lot to do. I like these state of the unions. I love you guys.

I love your success. I love you too. I'm going to tell everybody, Netflix, $20 billion, I want $10 billion to go to them, damn it. There we go. Of your $20 billion budget, I want 10 to come here. There we go. Because I know where you're going to invest it. In the community.

Comments Unlead starts this Friday May 22nd at 1135 on CBS. You're going to laugh your butt off. I'm going to tell you right now, before you watch the show put on your adult diapers because you're going to pee on sell. There you go. Well, it's the breakfast club. It's Byron Allen.

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We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?

I honestly don't remember. I think it was on. a call about what we should call it. We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.

I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.

Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Good morning. Let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren becoming a straight face. Tell her, maybe. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details.

I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on it. The latest with Lauren Lerosa. The latest with Lauren Lerosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest. Brought to you by Top Dog Law. On the Brick.

Club. Talk to me. All right, so congratulations. It goes out to Country Wayne. He has generated over 1.4 billion views across his Facebook. He does these vertical microdramas on his Facebook, which have become a really popular thing, by the way. He's done this before, right? It's not his first time hitting that type of number.

Yeah, but so now he's having a conversation about it because, you know, you're seeing this in Hollywood a lot. Issa Ray has a microdrama series. I believe it's across TikTok as well, and it's becoming a thing. But I saw a video that kept on stage did, big in a month. Let's take a listen. Country Wayne generated 1.4 billion views last month with his verticals show on Facebook. Do you know how many companies would kill seven random foxes to generate 1.4 billion views? The watch time, the watch hours, however you measure content, 1.4 billion used to be the goal to, like, I have reached one billion lifetime.

This is the fourth month he's done over a billion views in the last six months. I think he did it last month. The first one I think I saw was in January and he also did it in December. That's four billion views in four months. Do you understand the behemoth of an enterprise for a young black man to do this independently? This is insane. Paying actors and producers like crazy. That man built this empire in front of our very eyes.

Kudos to you, Countryway. Drop out of the clues bonds of Countryway. If you don't know what verticals are, they're like these mobile, they're for your phone, and they're like these one to three minute like soap opera dramas.

Yeah, like these episodes. They're like one minute, two minute, three minutes. Yes. But it's not a reality show, so it's not based on him in his life because that's what I thought it was at first. But when I dove into it, like he has actors and actors.

It's a soap opera. It seems like he tapes it with one camera. It's not like different cameras. It's just dope the way he does it. By the way, you notice this. He has an actual production team. He has a production team that he does that. Wayne been doing this, though, for years.

He was way ahead of his time with this. He started doing this, like, what, five, six years ago. Well, yeah. And they're trying to get other comedians to do it, too. These microdrama started in China. Like, it's a billion dollar industry in China. And Country Wayne says that, like, Hollywood, because they know he got the recipe to all of this,

they're coming to him trying to work with him. But he's telling him he won like 500, like, he won a good amount of money. He should be in. Yeah. So, yeah, congratulations to him. And once you start watching, I was watching, was yesterday. I was just into it.

But people are like that with a lot of his content though. People really dive into his content. He got the audience and he's proven he got the audience so they should pay him for his audience. And it's clean too. All his content is clean. So that's dope. It's for everybody.

Well, speaking of content, there is a conversation that is starting to pick up. So Rich Paul was on his podcast, Game Over, with Max Kellerman. And they were having a conversation a day that Drake dropped Iceman about whether LeBron and Drake should sit

down and have a conversation. Let's take a listen. Drake drops the album last night at midnight. Of course, you know, the big publicity on the record is he goes at your guy because he's mad that trauma. Yeah, you know, look, yeah, I don't get into that stuff, man. Like, at the end of the day, I think it's important for adults really reconcile down the row. It's hard to stay out of that. Because the nature of hip hop and competition in hip hop is you're actually talking about the person in a certain way and trying to diss them, right? I don't get involved in any of that. that for me it's just about allowing time to pass and hopefully people can reconcile. Yeah, they usually do if they're close.

Their differences. I do think in any situation is important to remove the middlemen because over time, you have to let two people have an adult conversation if it's able to get there and hopefully people reconcile their differences. He right. That was Rich Paul, LeBron's agent. He right. They just need to have a conversation to see what they went wrong because, you know,

Has Drake covered the tattoo up yet? Oh, my God. If you haven't covered the LeBron tattoo up yet, then, you know, it's still real. You say that, but this is the thing. You're making it seem like Drake is or something like, but I thought I didn't get it covered up. And you were my bestie, like, you're my best friend, right?

They used to have a group chat where they put bars in the group chat. You know, LeBron would come and stay at Drake's house. We were friends. Then the guy that's dissing me, you're on stage, you're rapping his lyrics. I would feel away. It's not real until Drake covers up the LeBron James tattoo. When he covers the tattooing is. I thought he did.

I thought he did. Yeah, it was like a video or something. Maybe that was in the other's name. What was name he had on him? It was who? He covered it up? Yeah, so he covered it up and then he put Michael Jordan.

Michael Jordan. Shea on there. Another basketball player, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a bronze high school jersey and he replaced it. Oh, it might not be no reconciliation. It might be over, man. Charlemagne.

You don't understand this? Like, you don't understand why he feel this way? It's not just like a... Shut your big head ass up. I don't care. How about that? You don't care. I don't give a damn.

I'm just here making content for the radio. No, because you're being mean about it. I don't care. You don't care. You don't care. You don't care. You know, my God. I knew that.

I knew the way he started. F's forever. Hey, man. Won't y'all unblock each other, man? So y'all can get back and y'all circle jerk. That's what it sounds like to me. That's what it sounds like.

You used and you, you know, said that this is happening. I don't give a damn. Yo. They were friends. It would be F FETS forever. All right. Well, that's the ladies.

This man had a tattoo of LeBron on his body. That makes it even worse. If I put a tattoo of you or my body, and then documented him covering it up. Right. Right. He did.

He sure did. That's all right. All right. He said that time it's in your face. When he did that McDonald's commercial? The McDonald's commercial. That's the lady. We let that McDonald's commercial.

Who was it brought to you by? The latest is brought to you by. That's crazy. The latest is brought to you by Top Dog Law. Any accident, bigger small, called Top Dog Law. You got me doing this. Why did I just do that? The shake quake.

That's what this is. That sounds crazy as hell. Now, you don't got it? All right. Let's get to the mix, man. Why did you just do you have a, do you tape all those videos? Why did you just do this, Envi? Why did you just put your hands in a shakeway?

You did it earlier when you were talking about my stocking on the game cock. You was like, if it was your cocks, you'd be off. You need to shut up. You're right. Tush. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Everybody is DJ NV.

Jess Larry. Sholome and the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. And salute to the Radio Hall of Fame. Now, they revealed their 2026 class of people that's going to be inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame. Who we got? Who got in this year? Helen Little.

Drop on a clue bomb for Helen Little. That's my girl. Long and overdue. Helen Little should have been in the Radio Hall of Fame, man. Helen Little is one of the best to ever do it. it when it comes to this radio thing. Helen used to be the program director of Power Yes she was. Yes she was.

When they first launched, right? No, not when they first launched. No, I think after the, I think she was the second one. Second one? Yep, yep, yep. So salute to Helen Little. Also, Ricky Smiley. Ricky Smiley made it as well. Drop on the clues by for Ricky Smiley, man. God, Ricky.

Uncle Ricky. Also, Bob Pittman. Bob Pittman is in the Radio Hall of Fame as well. Bob Pittman just getting in the Radio Hall of Fame? Yeah. Bob Pittman? That's right. The CEO and Founding.

of IRP? Yes. When I don't know if he's the founder, but CEO, yeah, he's the founder of IRME. I'm bugging. Yeah, yeah, how many he is a founder. He's just getting into the Radio Hall of Fame. Yes, he is.

Bob Pittman, who founded MTV. Yes. Hey, yo. That's crazy. That is crazy. How we get in before Bob Pittman? The breakfasts was got in before Bob Pittman. And if you want to know how that happens,

it's selected by votes for more than 950 radio industry professionals. So that's how people vote to see who gets in there. And I don't know how we, because we got in there, what, four or five years ago? Yeah, we got in six years. COVID, COVID, 2020. Yeah, 2020. We got it to the Radio Hall of Fame. Oh, congratulations, Helen Little, Bob Pittman and Ricky's Miles.

Yeah, man. All our people write this. That's the game. All right. Now, we also got a salute to Byron Allen for joining us this morning. The legendary Byron, Byron Allen. Is Byron in the Radio Hall of Fame? You better put him in there before you buy it.

He's going to buy the Radio Hall of Fame. All right. Salute to Byron Allen. When we come back, you can see that full. interview on Netflix, by the way, as well. I want to salute to everybody again that's been supporting and getting tickets for my car show July 25th in Hampton, Virginia.

Of course, all types of car. Old cars, new cars, exotic cars, games and rides, carnival stuff for kids. Kids five and under a free. It's going to be a family fun day. So if you're looking for something to do with the kids, bring the kids, bring the family, kids five and under free.

Now, I've been asking Charlemagne for weeks for the number so I can get the Black Effect NASCAR into a couple of the cars shows. And he is not giving me the number. but like he's crazy. I don't have the number. He's a gatekeeper. No, no,

slew to my guy, Roger Caroof. I'm going to hit up Dolly today and see how we can get it. Because we had the simulator at the Black Effect podcast festival, but I also saw they had the Black Effect car at 704 day in Charlotte. My guy BDop posted that, so I just got to hit Roger and see where it's at.

Well, hopefully he's not racing that day so I can use it. No, because I just think it's dope for people to see. It's monumental the fact that Charlomaine is sponsoring a brother that's driving. I think that would be great for people to see. I'm a fine out right now. All right. Now, you're going to be in Rhode Island this weekend. I am going to be East Providence, Rhode Island, at the Comedy Connection this Friday and this Saturday.

I got two shows on Friday, two shows on Saturday. So meet me there. And then also Saturday, early afternoon from 1 to 2 p.m. You can meet me at riffraff and bar. That's a bookstore in East Providence, Rhode Island. I'll be doing a book signing event there for my new book. My co-parenting parenting memoir, until deaf do be parents. So get your book.

Come and get a sign. come talk to me. Got a live Q&A, take your pitches, do all of that, and then beat me at the show at Comedy Connection that Saturday night. All right. Now, Shalman, you got a positive note? I do, man. And it comes from Henry Ford, and I think it's great. You know,

this quote is, when everything seems to be going against you, remember that the airplane takes off against the win, not with it. Breakfast club, bitches! You don't finish or y'all done? Boat up, wake you up. Wake that ass up. Program your alarm to Power 105.1 on IHeart Radio.

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