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Episode Date: September 27, 2023

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Pump day Yes, and we have our special guest, Lauren LaRosa, hanging out with us this morning Yes, she is Good morning, Lauren Pump day. Yes, and we have our special guest, Lauren LaRosa, hanging out with us this morning. Yes, she is. Good morning, Lauren. Good morning, everybody. I'm back. How y'all feel today, man?

I feel great. Yeah, I feel blessed, black, and highly favored. Ready to serve on this fine Wednesday morning. Ready to serve the beautiful listeners of The Breakfast Club. What's happening? All right. I ain't like my candles yet. Damn it.

You've been slipping with the candles all week. No, man. Kerry Washington will be joining us this morning. She has a new book called Thicker Than Water. We'll be chopping it up with her in a little bit. Come on, get your lighter. Did you tell the people Kerry Washington was going to be joining us this morning? No, I didn't say that.

No. You can tell them. I heard you. All right. Why you ask me? Jesus Christ. All right. Making conversation.

I mean, that's what the radio show is all about. There you go. Let's get this show cracking. Today is Lil Wayne's birthday. So can we start to make the show off with some Lil Wayne? Can we pull up some Lil Wayne, please? It is amazing how you ride Lil Wayne. I'm glad you realized who he is to the culture before his birthday.

That's right. You was in here doing a versus with Nyla, getting bodied. Salute to 50. We love 50. He's an icon as well. But we told you that Wayne was the guy. Now all of a sudden you want to be all over Wayne.

Why y'all start that? I just want to play his... You know what? It's Chick Daddy's birthday. Pull up Chick Daddy now. What? Now you're talking about another legend.

I'm just saying it's both their birthdays. We say pull both their songs. I just feel like for Wayne every time you say happy birthday you should drop a reason why he's iconic too. This is not homework true this is not i just have never in my life one the one person people don't argue is wayne you were the only person i've ever heard in my life

it's only 31 years but i mean hey is he your favorite rapper he's not my favorite rapper but like i would never say that he's not iconic in that i didn't i didn't say he wasn't iconic i ain't gonna put words you don't have to be your favorite rapper in order for you to be objective and say he's top Five dead or alive and if we're being real objective top three fashion lyrics. Yes, who's your favorite rapper? I think what Eminem D-Max You angry already this morning Bubba Sparks Vanilla Ice

It's 602 I'm not gonna to lie, Lauren. That's disrespectful. It is. It is. We're not carrying that into today. We're not carrying that into today. Now, if today's Lil Wayne and Trick Daddy born day, you know, T.I. had a born day this week, so if we were really prepared, we'd be playing Stand Up featuring Lil Jon, Trick

Daddy, and Lil Wayne. That's off the Urban Legend album. Classic, classic record. Now, you know we're not that prepared. What record we got? Classic, classic record. We got a Wheezy record? Which one?

Ah, we do a Millie. Let's do a Millie. Of course y'all would do a Millie. Let's do a Millie. Of course y'all would do a Millie. Why y'all doing this one? Because Taylor Swift was dancing to it. Y'all just...

I just can't. All right, man. Let's get the show cracking. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Front page news is next. Morning, everybody. It's get the show cracking. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Front page news is next. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God.

We are the Breakfast Club. We got our special guest co-host, Lauren LaRosa, with us. And let's get in some front page news. Good morning, Tess. Good morning, Breakfast Club family. DJ Envy, Lauren, and Charlamagne Tha God. Good morning. Let's jump right into it.

Donald Trump. Now, they're saying he's liable for fraud. mv lauren and charlamagne the guy good morning now let's jump right into it donald trump now they're saying he's liable for fraud oh yeah that's what they are saying meaning the judge let's listen to the report by abc and then i'll come back and we'll break down the details a judge in new york has determined former president trump committed systemic fraud lying for years about his net worth by inflating the value of his real estate portfolio the fraud was so overwhelming the judge decided there was no need for him to even hear evidence or testimony at a civil trial set to begin next month the judge found trump inflated the value of his fifth avenue apartment in trump tower by as much as 200200 million by claiming it was triple its actual size.

Trump said Mar-a-Lago was worth up to $600 million when the judge said the Palm Beach estate's assessed value was no more than $27 million. The judge agreeing with New York Attorney General Letitia James, Trump overstated his net worth by as much as $2.2 billion, duping banks, insurance companies, and other business partners into giving Trump, his eldest sons, and their family real estate business better terms than deserved. Dang. That's insane.

Yeah, I didn't know stuff like that was up to Trump. The judge, yeah, I didn't know he didn't have to go to trial. I didn't know stuff like that was up to the person who owns the property. I thought, don't they got to have people come out and... Yeah, appraisals. Appraisals. Appraisals. Yeah, but I mean...

Go ahead, Tess. Yeah, apparently, it looked like there might even be some conspiracy going on. Because again, yeah, somebody has to do the appraisal. But he was able to get it appraised for more. And that's the whole thing, the whole fraud piece. So, yeah. So, we forgot about this civil case. A lot of folks keep talking about...

Remember, there's still four indictments the january 6th the georgia election the classified documents the hush money and then this is the civil case i'm very confused for two reasons one i didn't know you didn't i thought that everybody had a fair trial or a chance at a fair trial because the judge says we ain't even going to trial i've never heard that before well this is a civil case so a judge yeah so this was a civil case so a judge yeah so this was a civil case so you don't have to go to trial yeah the evidence was so overwhelming that it wasn't any point of the trial so with the trial so what's going to happen on monday or next week

if you will uh the they will decide uh what the fee will be so they're asking for 250 million dollars so the trial technically was really won't be a trial it would just be determined the penalties in addition to that the george the judge ordered that his business licenses basically be rescinded as punishment making it difficult or almost impossible for him to do business in new york they also want to continue to monitor the trump organization's operations which may cause him to sell some of his some of his buildings. And of course, his attorneys have said they will appeal. So, yes, civil is different than criminal. But, you know, you've seen judges even make decisions in criminal cases as well.

So that's not unheard of. You know how many people like black people, brown people live in certain areas where even if you get appraisals, they still will fight you on the value of your property. I make it less. Of course, he can just inflate it like that. I wish I had that privilege. That's why it's so interesting because, once again, I didn't know you as a property owner could do your own appraisals.

I thought there was a lot of checks and balances that go with that. Well, any time I've ever purchased or sold a home, like the bank orders an appraisal. You know what I mean? They don't listen to what I say. I can't, you know, you have appraisal comes out that you don't know that usually the bank picks because the bank calls

and orders the appraisal. It's their people that come in there and assess the crib and assess the valuation and properties next door and what recently sold and the size of your house

and what's in it. And that's how they usually get the appraisal. I've never been able, they never call me and be like, hey, what's the appraisal on your crib?

Absolutely. Like you just said, even when you're purchasing a property, I'll send my own appraiser out there. Right. To make sure that I'm, you know, whatever they're asking me for, what I should be paying.

Right. I don't know. This is a strange one. I'm not going to lie. Are you surprised? Everything with that man is strange. Yeah, it makes you wonder, will Donald Trump ever, you know, win another court case in this country ever again

or even get a fair shake. I don't know. But will it matter because he's still behind the polls? One thing them people do is stick behind that man. But I do feel like the Republican Party needs to move away from Donald Trump and I feel like the Democratic Party needs to move away

from Joe Biden. But hey, what do I know? Where are we going to move to? I ain't talking about physically move. I'm talking about move away. I know, but I'm saying you you gotta put a purse in there for us i mean the republicans got quite a few you'll see them tonight debating um democrat bench is weak but you know and just to bring you uh so excuse me just a little bit of clarity uh his ruling which comes in the phase of a case known as a summary judgment, resolves the key claim in this case. So this was decided to be a non-jury trial that starts on next week as well,

just to determine how much he could possibly owe in penalty. So it was set up that way, which can happen in a civil case. All right. Well, that is front page news. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-585-1051.

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This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now. He'll tell you what it is. Are we live? Hello, who's this? Hey, good morning, Breakfast Club.

This is Prince. Prince, what up? What's up, Prince? How are you, sir? Good morning. I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I want to say hello to Charlamagne, DJ Envy, and your guest host. Lauren LaRosa.

Lauren LaRosa. Hey, anyway, I'm calling because I want to know how come you all and Tesla and Figueroa never talk about the supposed migrant issue up there in New York. We've discussed it many times. We've discussed it many times. And the problems and what the mayor's

trying to do and the situations, we've definitely reported it. We literally talked about it. I don't know if it was this week or last week and we were saying how it's a shame that you know you have veterans in this country you know who are homeless don't have room and board but you know they'll make accommodations for the migrants immediately we just were talking or they were taking money from the uh the different budgets that that these kids need to help the migrants and now some some of these programs, they won't have money for. We've definitely been talking about it. Now, apologize to us. Well, I must admit,

I consider myself a long-time listener. Well, thank you, sir. I missed that. Alright, you all have a great one, alright? That's cool. Players mess up, too. Hello, who's this? Yo, Breakfast Club is good. It's Mitch, man,

from Atlanta. Mitch from Atlanta. What up? Get it off your chest. What up, Envy? What up, Char's this? Yo, Breakfast Club, what's good? It's Mitch, man, from Atlanta. Mitch from Atlanta. What up? Get it off your chest. What up, Envy? What up, Charlotte, man? I don't know who the guest host is. This is Laura La Rosa this morning.

Lauren, what's good? Hey, what's up? How you doing? I'm doing great. Nah, man, I'm just feeling good this morning, man. We done made a half way through the week. I normally struggle with getting up in the mornings, but I'm feeling good this morning. We made it to hump day.

That's right. And I just wanted to call y'all and tell y'all I love y'all, man. I appreciate y'all. The world appreciates y'all and everything y'all do. Getting us up every morning and shitting.

We love you. We love you too, Mitch. We here to be of service. Mitch, I want to ask you a question. Did life get hard for you after the Real Husbands of Hollywood

when they said Mitch was a male bitch? Damn. Hey, Solomon, that don't apply to me, man. You know what I'm saying? I got my name from 8 to 4. Money making Mitch. It's totally different.

Oh, money making Mitch. Money making Mitch. Got you, got you, got you. Yeah, money making Mitch. I'm out here making money right now. Money making Mitch. And I just want to say, too, before y'all let me go, shout out to all the single full-time fathers out there, too.

I'm one myself, and I know the scenario is normally switched, but we out here. You know what I'm saying? We outside. I love that. Salute to that, my brother. I love that, King. I got an eight-year-old prince, man.

I'm raising him every day. We got a soccer game this Saturday. Let's go. Atlanta Dutch Lions. We lit. Good luck, brother. Salute to the Atlanta Dutch Lions. I love that for you, King.

You hear that? You hear that? Are you yelling at me? He's talking to you, Lauren. Yeah, I know. I was looking at you, Lauren. I felt I... Did you like your Pauly?

What is it? Pauly Sanchez. I'm just happy for that young man. You know what I'm saying? He's a proud single father out here raising his young prince. Black father. Black father. Salute to that man out here defying all stereotypes.

You hear me? Being of service. Get it off your chest. It's 800-585-1051 hit us up now it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club this is your time to get it off your chest 800-585-1051 we want to hear from you on the breakfast club, who's this? Good morning. Hey, good morning, mama. Get it off your chest. Yes, so this is Jay from Mount's Corner.

Mount's Corner, we out here. Big monks, baby. Hey, Charlamagne. What's happening? So, Charlamagne, I wanted to know, you know how you have in your mental health expo? Uh-huh. In New York, I call it for sadness.

I wanted to know, have you ever thought about taking that on the road? You know how Envy does his car shows to the different cities? Maybe taking yours on the road. Because some people can't get to New York, and it's expensive to get to New York. So taking it around. Well, there's other events that are happening, you know, like Shanti Daz is doing things,

but yeah, it's definitely something that we're thinking about. But you did say in South Carolina, right? Yeah, we just had

the Low Country Mental Health Conference in Charleston. It was July 24th to the 26th. I don't know if you were in attendance for that,

but we just had that in Charleston, South Carolina. Salute to my man, Mayor Tech, Mayor Techlenburg. Wow. Yeah,

no, I wasn't, I didn't even know about it. I didn't know about it to my man, Mayor Tech, Mayor Tech Lindbergh. Wow. Yeah. No, I wasn't, and I didn't even know about it. Yeah. I didn't know about it until I spoke to Mayor Tech over the summer, and that's when I decided

to get involved. But yeah, they do that every year in South Carolina. But no, you're right. The Mental Health Expo is something that we probably do need

to take on the road. So yeah, we'll keep that in mind. Yeah. Yeah. So I just wanted to put that out. I thought about that when you were talking about it one day,

and I was like, you know what? I wonder if Charlamagne ever thought about that. But thank you for doing that because mental health is real, and people don't talk about it enough. And I work in social work. I'm a social worker, and, you know, that's something that we see a lot in the schools. Yeah, that's one of the pillars that my foundation,

the Mental Wealth Alliance, wants to do. We want to get social emotional learning in all schools, kindergarten through 12th grade. Yeah, that's awesome. All right, my boy.

Thank you so much. Thank you, Amy. Thank you for all y'all do. Thank you very much. Yeah, Saturday, October 7th, man, the Mental Wealth Expo, a day of mental health and healing education

is happening at the Marriott Marquis Times Square from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. It is a free event. All right. So I'll see y'all Saturday, October 7th. Hello. Who's this? Charlie, how about me?

You was going on a date when I told you that. Oh, Trav, you got to cut it out. You know, I'm a married man, sir. Yes, he's a married man, Trav. What's up, Envy? What up, Trav? I appreciate you lusting over me, though. I can see why you would do that.

Hi, I've been waiting to be here when you call. I always hear you call in. I've never been here when you call. That's right. I've been trying to call, but Envy been dating me ever since the Cowboys looked up on his science, so you have to forgive him. You know he likes me. How y'all did last weekend, though, Trav?

Asking for a friend. How y'all did last weekend? How? We didn't play this weekend. How y'all did last weekend? We didn't play't play last weekend. How y'all did last weekend? We didn't play this weekend. Okay. Oh, okay.

We played Thursday. Anyway, y'all, I'm calling to talk about Philadelphia. If y'all kids are out here in these streets, y'all need to get them. Because I don't understand. Y'all know how Philadelphia cops work. They will beat y'all kids. They will do anything in the world to do y'all kids. So, if y'all here moving and stealing, please come get them.

Yeah, you know what I didn't understand, Trav, man? I saw, like, all of those looters, you know, running into the stores. And then I saw the cops pull up. And the cops jump on them. And then everybody starts screaming at the cops to not jump on them. What are the cops supposed to do in that situation? And I don't think they understand that. These Philadelphia cops are already stressed. Because the murder I don't think they understand that these Philadelphia cops

are already stressed because the murders in Philadelphia, they already killed us killing each other repeatedly out here. So they're already high stress, anxiety. They're not playing no games with our kids. Get your kids off the street. I also thought at the Apple store, I thought the display phones

were fake, that you couldn't really use them. Display phones work, but they're really trackable. You never went, like... I thought you could only use them in the store. I didn the display phones were fake, that you couldn't really use them. No, display phones work, but they're really trackable. You never went, like, yeah. I thought you could only use them in the store. I didn't think that you could put anything on them and you actually use them. And why would they steal from Lululemon? Lululemon? Oh, Lululemon.

I think that they were just, like, doing whatever because people are upset right now. Man, niggas wearing tights. Yeah. But they do have a reason to be upset. That's not that. I don't want to get that. They have a reason to be upset. Yeah, they do. Well, thank you upset That's not that I don't want to forget that They have a reason to be upset Yeah they do

Because Well thank you Because that cop got off Alright y'all Have a good one Nah I was I was really thinking that I'm like

What do y'all expect the cops To do in a situation like this Like people start to call Record the police Record the police No record them motherfuckers That's looting I think the issue is

People are comparing it to When like the Phillies win or lose, I'm not Phillies, the Eagles win or lose and like they flip cars and they go crazy in Philly and you literally will see

the cops just standing and kind of waiting until things simmer down to get involved and then you got the looting and they come in and you know that that whole comparison.

Of course, they grab a video of like the white people downtown going crazy over the Eagles and then you got these young black and brown kids running these stores because they upset. And police coming in like quarterbacks. Yeah, I'm tired of y'all whataboutism. I think y'all whataboutism is ridiculous.

I really do. You mad at the looters? Yes, I would be mad at the looters. I'm a business owner. If I'm a business owner, I wouldn't want nobody running up in my business. They're closing like seven Targets. Taking products. Exactly.

Y'all own Targets? Y'all got money. The one in Harlem, they closing too because the people have been stealing. But see, it's different if you're going to somewhere and stealing versus like, for instance, I wouldn't have known about this Eddie Azari, the man that was killed by the cop, if the looting didn't happen. Oh, a looter got killed? No.

So we're going to talk about it in rumors today. But the background of this is there was a young man. He's 27 years old. He was killed by a cop. Break it down in rumors. Yeah yeah i'll break it down but basically i feel like i understand why they're upset and it's bringing attention i i feel bad for the business owners i'm a business owner too but i mean y'all gotta abide by some rules of the people you talked about the public the public servants serving the people that's the issue right now yeah i'm confused you gotta i got y'all we gonna get into it i don't know what's going on no more yeah but I was going to say, the problem with all these stores is shutting down, like

in Target and Harlem. It's now, if people want to go shopping, where can they go? Because now they can't go locally anymore. They're going to have to travel, take buses and taxi cabs. Philly going to rebuild. They're getting too much money in that downtown area right now. But I think it's a different situation, but we'll get into it. And are Luda specific?

Now, I'm going to talk about the ocean. Y'all know what I mean. Are Luda specific? Specific? Meaning that,. Y'all know what I mean. Are Luda specific? Specific? Are they saying we're not targeting that store because it's black owned? I mean, they did Lululemon. You shop there? That don't make it right.

I can't ride with that. That don't make it right. We're going to talk about it when we come back. Because those same people with that same energy will do the same thing to your store. They might. We'll talk about it when we come back. Rumors on the way. It's The Breakfast Club.

Good morning. The Breakfast Club. She said you look good for 32. Oh, my God. We're in here being abused. She said you look good for 32, Taylor. My homegirls are in here. The ageism is crazy. Morning, everybody. You look good for 32 Taylor. My homegirls are you old the ages?

Morning everybody we are the breakfast Laura LaRosa special guest host. Let's jump right into the room I think a lot of people will recognize the voice in the name. On The Breakfast Club. Lauren came in hot. You know, I came in telling the truth. So, last night, there was a bunch of rioting that took place in Center City, Philadelphia. Large crowds of juveniles looted multiple stores, including Lululemon, an Apple store, a Foot Locker in Center City.

Now, the acting police commissioner, John Stanford, said that the looting has nothing to do with the peaceful protest that took place earlier after charges were dismissed against an officer who shot and killed a 27-year-old man named Eddie Irizarry. Stanford also said that police have made 15 to 20 arrests so they aren't um and so far uh two firearms have been recovered but they aren't sure if they're connected to the looting now there have been over 100 juveniles and young adults that were involved but at this time police are not sure how many businesses were affected there are videos going so viral online right now of all these kids people running into these stores police hopping on them people are recording the police it's it's just a lot going on in philadelphia right now i knew nothing about the peaceful protest and i knew nothing about the cops killing that brother what was his name eddie erizar i knew nothing about that so when i saw

this video i just thought it was a bunch of kids uh looting right because we've been seeing it all summer long and they've been looting everywhere you know louis vuitton stores and macy's and i've been trying to find the louis vuitton store looters oh my god gucci you know we've been seeing chanel like they've been looting a lot recently that that's what i thought it was too i didn't and i will say if that is their response to uh the brother getting killed these people need guidance you know i'm saying because this is their response to those cops getting off and they need to get with real activists who actually do this work and figure out a way to protest to bring attention to the actual issue. Because running up and footlocker Apple and Lululemon is not raising awareness to what actually happened because I didn't know any of this until you told me. Well, I think that that's a really good point. We I didn't know any of this either.

And I'm from Delaware. I've been back and forth between L.A. and Delaware over these last couple months. A lot didn't know that any of this was happening until the looting happened. This happened on August 14th. That is when Officer Mark Dial and his partner were on patrol and they came across Eddie Irizarry and the shooting happened, right? So from August until now, it's what?

October? September? October? Almost October. September 27th. There have been peaceful protests happening all the way from Puerto Rico to Philadelphia. So, we were having a conversation in here earlier about if looting is effective and why take this route. Well, I think running up in someone's place of business and looting is whack. Rioting because you are fed up over cops killing us. I'm not mad at. Riots are the language in the unheard.

But this is not a riot. To me, it sounds like niggas just wanted iPhones the unheard but this is not a riot to me it sounded like niggas just wanted iphones and types that's what it sounded like the only the only way i could wow the only way i could say anything like looting is justified is if they are stealing food or medicine but footlocker apple products and lululemon man f that like no yeah and what trap said earlier you know travel who calls all the time i would say if you have kids out there make sure you you know where your kids are and you watch your kids and the reason for that is yeah I don't want to see any other kid get hurt I don't want to say the kid you know coming out of a

store looting and police attack them and your child does your child gets hurt I'm with Charlamagne when it comes to these things I don't I don't have a problem with protesting I don't have a problem with doing things with we need but the fact that you guys are grabbing tights and some iPhones just seems a little weird. Yeah, if y'all were telling me that y'all was, like I said, if y'all was hungry. Grabbing food. They was grabbing food. They was grabbing medicine. I understand.

You know what I mean? Inflation is sky high. Things are crazy out here. But Foot Locker, Apple Products, and Lululemon? Man, please. Well, we have a report from 6 ABC just to give some more context on what went down. This is cell phone video. Police making arrests at the Lululemon on Walnut Street.

Authorities investigating reports that a caravan of vehicles moved around the city with followers jumping into the lawlessness. The looting started shortly before 8 p.m. 9-1-1 calls started coming in about a large group, possibly as many as 100, moving through Center City. Around 8 p.m., cell phone video shows a group of people taking merchandise out of a Chestnut Street footlocker. A number of juveniles got away, but police say at least one adult was arrested. Within 15 minutes, more looting reported. This time at Lululemon, you can see the piles of clothing on the floor. Around 8.15, the Apple Store on Walnut was hit. Phones and tablets taken, though police say some of the goods have since been recovered. As of midnight, police say at least 15 to 20 people were arrested,

two weapons were recovered, and one police vehicle sustained damage. Police say the looting had nothing to do with the earlier peaceful protests after a judge dismissed charges against a police officer who fatally shot Eddie Irizarry. Stealing tights from Lululemon and then going to Foot Locker to get matching sneakers. They've been waiting to run up in Lululemon. It's as expensive as all that stuff is. That's wild. If you're going to go for it, you might as well go for what you've been waiting for. But yes, but what are you going for?

Okay, so I wanted to play that report because one of the important things that I said and that we hear in that report is that the police are saying that they do not believe that this looting is connected to the police officer, Mark Dial, being let go on all charges for shooting a man six times following what they believe was just like a police stop. Now, we have the actual body cam from the police officer that shot the 27-year-old gentleman, Eddie Irizarry. And I want you guys to listen to this, and then we'll get into what you going there for

coming down B Street he starts flying in the bike lane banks it up Westmoreland so I come over like this he's driving a hundred as soon as I make the right he starts taking off again he probably came down whatever street this is here I'm trying to come over here I said answer 25th at anything as soon as I make this left it's the wrong way I see a car here I see answer the 25th, I didn't say anything. As soon as I make this left, it's the wrong way. I see a car here. I see them parking up. As we parked up, we got out. Dude pulled out a knife.

So as we pull up, dude starts freaking out. He pulls out a knife. I tried to get this door open, I couldn't. So like I said, as I pull up, he starts freaking out. We get out, Mark comes on the driver's side. I'm over here. I try to get the door open, I can't. He pulls out a knife. I talk to him, like, Mark, Mark, he's got a knife. He pulls out a knife. I talk to him like, Mark, Mark, he's got a knife.

He's got a knife. I guess he like, I couldn't really see because I looked up and Mark, I saw his body come up like this and then Mark fired. So after this body cam, this is the partner of the officer who shot Eddie, to correct that. But after this body cam was released, police then did a press conference. And in that press conference, they said that not only was there a knife found but they said that Eddie actually got out of the car and lunged at police officers now when when that happened a neighbor had a camera in addition to

this body cam that they gave to the family and that was released and in that video you see yes police do walk up to the car but Eddie never gets out of the car there were knives found in the car but he never gets out of the car and the were knives found in the car, but he never gets out of the car. And the shots happen. You really can't see the interaction between Eddie and the police officer, but you just hear the shots go off, right? And then he's killed in the car. So, people are upset.

There was an officer that exchanged what, like six bullets into a man who was sitting in a car and he's completely let off all charges people are upset and i think that people have a right to be upset absolutely yeah but i don't believe this looting had anything to do with uh that situation and if it did once again these folks need guidance because that energy that they are using to run up in these stores can be used for something more

productive that brings actual awareness to the situation because i had no idea about this case or the officer getting off and i still don't know what running up in lululemon got to do with anything but you're talking about it right now though because of the running up in lululemon i guess yeah maybe but i think if looting wasn't so so huge nowadays because they've been looting everywhere recently they've been looting in you know in philly in new york that's why when we saw the video it's like oh they doing it in philly like they're just doing it again what when we saw the video, it was like, oh, they doing it in Philly? They just doing it again. What I've seen, I didn't know, like you said, it had anything to attach to it.

I've just seen it happening again. I just heard that they did something in Long Island, Long Island. I think they got Montclair again. I've been seeing it so much. I just want these people to get with real activists who actually do the work and figure out a way to protest. They want real activists. They're asking for a lot of people to get involved.

And I think that this will help, too. They can get some structure down there, some of the people that we protest. They want real activists. They're asking for a lot of people to get involved. And I think that this will help too. They can get some structure down there, some of the people that we trust in. Hopefully something happens. I just don't want to see anybody else get hurt. That's my whole thing. Especially those young juveniles.

Because all we see right now is niggas with new iPhones and tights. Okay? You want some Lululemon tights? No, it's too expensive. People are cheaper. You want Fashion Nova? I would never go in Lululemon.

What about Fashion Nova? You know he a sexy red tight. Sheen? I do a little Sheenen i do a little sheen you do a little shit all right when we come back we got front page news with tesla and figueroa and then kerry washington will be joining us it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club your mornings will never be the same morning everybody it's dj nv charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got our special guest host, Lauren LaRosa, and let's get in some front page news. What up, Tiz? What's going on, DJ Envy? Good morning, Lauren. Good morning, Charlamagne Tha God.

Good morning. Now, let's jump right into it. Biden, he joins the picket line. Yeah, he went yesterday. It was historic to have a president actually join the picket line. He went on Tuesday and alongside the United Auto Workers in Michigan he grabbed his megaphone and encouraged the workers to hold the line let's listen to the report wearing a union ball cap and armed with a bullhorn President Biden told the striking United Auto Workers to

keep fighting for higher wages. We built the middle class. That's a fact. So let's keep going. You deserve what you've earned, and you've earned a hell of a lot more than you're getting paid now. President Biden, who exchanged fist bumps with the workers, the historic visit to the picket line was personal and political,

underscoring a long career backing labor. To have the President of the United States walk the picket line in support of workers, that's huge. Yeah, big deal. I'm glad it went out there. The White House, they said that he was not going to get into the negotiations, but President Biden did weigh in on it.

A reporter asked him if they should get a 40% pay increase. The President said yes, they should be able to bargain for that. Now, we talked about this a little bit yesterday. Former President Donald Trump will be there today. He has accused President Biden of only visiting because he is visiting. He actually made a statement that said Crooked Joe should be ashamed to show his face before these hardworking Americans that he's stabbing in the back.

He said, well, Biden, it doesn't matter what the hourly wage is, because in three years there'll be no auto workers because of china damn well i mean it's definitely political for both of them like i said yesterday majority of americans agree with the strike so you know them going out there and standing with the workers they both on the right side of history everybody but tim scott he's the only one that doesn't agree with everybody but tim scott but i don't care man i'm still uh sticking to the fact that i think republicans should move away from donald trump and uh democrats should move away from joe biden those two are not the best you're not gonna tell me those two are the best that america has to offer no not at all well yeah but that are they're not offering anybody else up so what do they do they're definitely not offering anybody else up on the democrat side so i don't know i feel like we're gonna

find ourselves in a position next year to where neither one of them may be around. What do you mean? O-H? Like, literally? I don't know. I just feel that way. I just feel like there's going to be something where neither one of them are going to be in the mix. And I think it's going to happen in the bottom of the ninth inning, and everybody's going to be scrambling to figure out what the hell to do.

I just feel that Yeah, I'm just nervous that Biden's gonna be like What's the congressman that Every once in a while he just zones out And I feel like Biden's gonna be that in a little bit In a little bit, he like that now They both like that, to be honest with you What are you talking about? What do you mean in a little bit?

Well, he ain't zoned out yet, he just fell down a couple of times Oh, he ain't zoned out? Oh, you mean like Mitch McConnell? Yeah, yeah, yeah He zoned out a couple of times. Oh, you mean like Mitch McConnell? Yeah He's owned out a couple times. He shook a couple people's hands that weren't there, but he's on out yet Well, hello, my name is Jay whatever their LOJ. Hello Jay Jay Jay Cole Jay Cole That boy good. I never talk about religious for spiritual. Yeah quick question Are you guys let me ask a quick poll are you religion religious or spiritual which one envy uh spiritual i would say oh 100 spiritual i've been i've been figured that out about myself okay well this was a good poll 82 percent uh say that they are religious spiritual or both 18 uh folks say that they are neither spiritual or religious uh up to not that's

up nine percent in 1999 the percentage also says that the religion is went down to 54 now the decline in americans identifying as religious is consistent with trends for other polls now what i thought i found this about this really interesting is they even put this into party politics they said that among the party groups 61 percent percent of Republicans are most likely to identify with religion, which is where you get a lot of those strict, you know, strict things like abortion or marriage against same sex marriage. While 68 percent say 28 percent, I'm sorry, say that they are spiritual. More independents say that they're religious than spiritual. And Democrats say they are equally about spiritual, spiritual 41 and religious 37 so interesting poll that i found just kind of want to see where you guys you know landed on that so the bottom line is uh the religion is going down

and spirit being spiritual is going up what do you learn religious spiritual i would say i'm in the middle because i just looked it up at first i said spiritual but i feel like i'm a little bit above them yeah i grew up very religious because my grandmother was a baptist and my mother is a jehovah witness and then uh you know my father studied islam but I think as I got older I just grew more spiritual because I wasn't uh I wasn't tied to any one religious practice see I'm tied to certain religious practices for the same reasons of like my upbringing. But there's certain stuff that I was taught with my upbringing that now I'd be like. Question a little bit. Yeah, I'm like, I don't know if I believe that or even if I believe it, I'm not living by that.

Yeah. Yeah. See, I grew up Baptist, but then I went to Catholic school all my life. So it was always a left, right. And like similar to what you said, you start seeing things that make you question things. So, you know what? I'm going to take a couple of steps back and i'll have my own relationship me even questioning the bible like you know when they tell you things like adam was the first man he was the first woman then they had cain and abel cain killed abel but then cain

went off and found a wife how see i i it's like just hearing you question the bible i'm like oh my god call me and give me a ear. That's how quiet I got. Just ask me questions. I don't want to know how. There's only four people on the planet. But then if you ask questions, they get upset with you asking questions. That's right.

Because I think people have blind faith in things. And then when it comes to the Bible, that blind faith, like, disappears. It's like, why not just be with it? Yeah, and everybody make excuses. Like, Deuteronomy 14a tell you don't touch the flesh of a dead pig. Nonetheless, eat it. But y'all niggas love pork. Chitlins, that's the only pork I do. You know, that's the only pork I do. Bacon's amazing. Oh, I do bacon a little bit.

I love bacon. But Chitlins is like, I don't want to hear nothing about it. You can't talk me out of that. You like Chitlins? I love Chitlins. How you like Chitlins? How you like Chitlins and then like that white man? Like, that's totally two different sides. Like, Chitlins on one side and the white man on the other? We said we was moving on today.

You keep bringing up more stuff. I'm sorry, you're right. We should start again. I'm a Virgo. Okay, yeah, because you just keep holding on to it.

I'm sorry, you're right. I'm sorry. That's front page news. Thank you, Tiz. Lauren just love white meat. That's all we learned in the last couple of days. This is crazy.

First of all, I am a, no, dark meat because white meat be dry. I love chitlins. You know, chitlins and Travis Kelsey. Chitlins don't really count as like white organs. Chitlins ain't meat.

Yeah. It's guts. It's guts. Oh my God. I don't care how many documentaries you send me, what you say, I'm going to eat some chitlins at Thanksgiving and Christmas. God bless you. I hope you pray over that.

My mom will cook a New Year's Eve. Oh, my gosh. You know when you pray over chitlins and bless the food, God ignores your prayers? He sends them to his fan folder. You know that? No, I didn't. I never heard that. Well, thank you, Tez.

Absolutely. And make sure you subscribe to Tezlyn Figaro's podcast, The Straight Shot No Chaser Podcast on the Black Effect iHeartRadio Podcast Network. And follow at Tezlyn Figa on all social media platforms. All right. Now, when we come back, Carrie Washington will be joining us. She has a new book, Thicker Than Water, and we're going to kick it with her when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club.

Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Lauren LaRosa, our guest host. And we got a special guest in the building, ladies and gentlemen. Big Legend Energy. Kerry Washington.

That's right. Welcome. Hi. Yes. Good morning, Ms. Washington. New book out, Thicker Than Water. Congratulations. Thank you.

Learned so much about you with this book. First, maybe it's just me being stupid. I didn't know you were from the Bronx. Really? I did not know that. You're from the Bronx. I didn't know you were from the Bronx. Really? I did not know that. Born and raised in the Bronx. Born and raised. You know what I say?

I say the craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. Why? What? Why? Have you seen the news? I agree on Florida.

But why the Bronx? I think some of the most talented people in the world come from the Bronx. That is very true too. Now, how did you know now was the time to write Thickening Water? Water so what I write about in the book is that a handful of like

five years ago my parents sat me down and shared with me some new information about myself that really kind of challenged the way that I thought about myself that I thought about my family turned my world upside down and at the time I had actually sold another book idea, which was based kind of inspired by the show that I was on Scandal. And it was like, these are the 10 things that I learned from Olivia Pope. But every time I sat down to write that book, all I could think about was this new information I'd been given and how it impacted my family and my sense of self. And so I wasn't going to write a book at all. I tried to give the publisher their money back, but they wouldn't take it. And then a few years later, I was like, I think I have to at least try to write this book.

Because you said your parents didn't want you to reveal that information. Yeah. So my parents told me that they were sort of forced to tell me that my dad is not my biological father. How did that affect you? Because I mean, he's still your dad at the end of the day. We've seen the pictures. He is always going to be my dad. The dad jokes on Instagram. Yeah.

So how did that affect anything after you were told? So I think immediately when they told me, it was weird. To be totally honest with you, I felt like excited. I felt excited and grateful because I had always felt like there was something going on in my family that I couldn't put my finger on, but it was like a dynamic of distance. I didn't know what I didn't know, but I knew that there was something between my parents and I. And because I didn't know what it was, a lot of times I blamed myself for that

or maybe thought I was crazy for thinking it. Maybe I'm just not open enough. I was always trying to figure it out. So when they told me, it felt like I could breathe it felt like oh this is this is a real opportunity for me to jump into this new kind of understanding of myself and my life and you know it was it was really exciting when you would ask questions about like just different things like hey you go to the doctors and they say, you know, what illnesses are on your mom's side, your dad's side. When you would ask your dad, your mom, those questions, how would they answer it?

As if my dad was my father. They were going to take this to their grave. And I get it. I totally understand. Right. They're protecting you. Yeah. I think they they felt like, well, well first of all let me just say this

my parents are renegades right like a lot of us now we know people who go to sperm donor sperm banks right it's like very common relatively now and you get a whole catalog you can pick the color of the eyes and what ivy league university they went to but when my parents did this in the mid 70s nobody was doing this this was was highly experimental, highly secretive. It was a big risk they were taking. It wasn't like they had complete health screenings for the donor. They had no idea who the donor was. They said, we asked two things.

Let him be healthy. Who knows what that means at the time, right? But like, we want him to be healthy and we want him to be black because they wanted this to be a secret. So, yeah. You know, you talk about your eating disorder and dealing with how you felt about your body and your looks yeah I wanted to know what got you in that point and the reason I ask is I have four daughters Charlamagne has four daughters uh and I always want to make sure I try my hardest to give my daughter as many compliments as possible right because you never want them to feel that way

but sometimes I don't think that matters because it's also how they look at themselves yeah so what got you to that point where you didn't like what you seen in a mirror or something that you weren't happy about it's such a good question I have daughters too right so it's something that I think about a lot I I think that the food it's like any other kind of addictive behavior it's not about the drug it's not really about the food or even really about the relationship with body it came out from a compulsion of trying to escape the feelings I was having or numb them and so I think for me it was this sense that I write about in the book of feeling like I had to be perfect like I had to be better than who I was in order to be deserving of love.

And some of that came from like, why do I have this weird dynamic with my parents? Like, what's going on? Maybe if I was better, prettier, smarter, thinner, then I might be more lovable. So I don't even, you know, I mean, I do think like it's important to teach our kids to make healthy choices when it comes to exercise to make healthy choices when it comes to food to teach them about nutrition about how food works in the body all that's important but i think helping a kid to feel unconditionally loved to feel safe those are the things that i think help us have the tools to live in life on life's terms as opposed to grabbing at addictive behaviors to escape life

now i'm jumping all around because i want people to read the book thick and water but you talked about uh you know always thriving for perfection yeah but you said jamie foxx taught you a very valuable lesson yeah can you explain what that was yeah i think jamie i mean i i've been really lucky i've been lucky enough to work with Jamie twice on Ray and Django Unchained classics by the way yeah truly he's the best and Jamie's taught me a lot

about a lot of things but one of the things is in my work as an actor you have to let go of that perfection idea because we were doing a scene together and Ray it was the scene where I find speaking of drugs where I find, speaking of drugs, where I find all his heroin works the first time as his wife.

And, you know, we had done it in the morning. We had hit it out of the park. And I was like, oh, we are on fire. This is incredible. And then as the day went on, I kept trying to do it exactly the way we had done it earlier that morning so that it would be in that perfect place

that felt so good. And that's the beginning of death as an actor like you you can't try to recreate magic you have to keep cultivating new magic right like you have to truly be in the moment and Jamie really helped me to realize I was frustrated in the scene and he was like you gotta you gotta keep digging you gotta let go of this morning and that was a really powerful lesson. Why was it easier to find that in acting as opposed to real life? Well, I guess I hadn't learned how to apply that to the rest of my world. You know, it was like it was in a vacuum.

It was an isolated kind of moment. But it's a good question. I mean, that is the lesson, though, right? Is that, like, the answer is never about perfection. It's always about, like, what's the best possible version of my life in this moment of me in this moment. Now, you did say something. I heard you say that parents do the best that they can. And then it's up to us to parent ourselves after that.

Explain that. Well, I think like one of the things that I've truly come to terms with in writing this book is that every choice my parents made was out of love. They weren't trying to be cruel. They weren't trying to hurt me. They really thought that this was the best choice. And by the way, doctors back then said it. Like, artificial insemination was so new. They would say,

you do this thing, and then you go home and have sex. And then you have plausible deniability. And nobody knew 40 years ago there would be these home tests, 23 and ancestry. You had no idea. So they were like like go home and have sex then the kid's yours end of story nothing to talk about right and so i think my parents didn't

want me to feel different they didn't want me to feel weird they didn't want me ironically they didn't want me to feel distance from them even though that's what wound up happening so i know that they made loving choices or choices out of love, even if they didn't feel loving to me. But I think we have to, for me and my journey, it's been like, it's been good to understand who they were, to have compassion for their choices. But I can't blame them for where I am now. Like now that I have awareness, I have to say like, okay, they gave me everything they could with as much love as they could. How do I now close the gap between what they gave me and what I need? That's my responsibility as an adult.

If I just sit here and continue to complain about what they didn't give me, then I'm keeping myself a child. All right, we got more with Kerry Washington. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.

Our special guest co-host, Lauren La Rosa, is here. And we're still kicking it with Kerry Washington. Lauren. What's the conversation like with your kids? Like once you decided to take this world to your kids and even deciding to write the book. And now you're, you know, because your kids, I'm sure they're friends and everybody knows who you are. So how do you have that conversation with them and kind of how are they responding to things? You know, it's funny. Like I was saying before, this is so common now. Like it's not news to my kids. They were they were so unimpressed. Like, you know, they're in their classes. They have kids with two dads and two moms. So they have friends from sperm donors, friends from egg donors, friends who are adopted, friends who were born from surrogates.

Like they also like we're a blended family, right? Their big sister, you know, when we like we're a blended family right their big sister you know when when you look at the three of them their big sister has four parents like having me having another parental figure in my story is not weird to them for my parents they came from a world where what makes a family was very different but the ideas of what makes a family now is much more open so you know they they know obviously the conversation i have with my 17 year old is very different than the conversation i have with my six-year-old right but i want to be a home where we're open and honest and where they feel

like they can ask anything what about when you decided to because i know in this book you talk about the abortion that you had at 20 yeah that is something that is like so in my 20s in your 20s but i mean it's around Save the Last Dance time, right? Yeah. So you were, you know, highly successful at this time. I know, but it's in a chapter

that I call Black Famous because I was like... I mean, you know how we are. Yeah. White people didn't necessarily know that the girl from Save the Last Dance was the same girl from Ray, was the same girl from

Last Game of Scotland. Right. So we knew. I, you know, but... So yes, I was... My star was on the rise but it wasn't I wasn't like I could still go to the grocery store and it was all good I want I love your self-awareness did you realize you were black famous when you were black famous or was that in hindsight no in the moment because I knew you know it was like I knew I could walk down the street on 57th and Madison and be fine. But if I was in the Bronx, it was like, oh, my God, that's Chanel.

Or like at the time, I was a I was a substitute teacher in New York City public schools. That was one of my many side hustles when I was trying to make a living as an actor. And it was funny because I would get hired into the school and the principals who were white you know the principals vice principals they would be like so nice to meet you great they bring me to the classroom they had no idea who I was but then I would be asked to leave a school because by the second day all the kids were cutting class to see Chanel from Save the Last Dance because they knew who I was because I was substitute teaching in Harlem so it was like that dynamic I understood that certain people knew who I was

and other people didn't. What's more fulfilling, being black famous or white famous? I think you have to have both. That was one of the things that Chris Rock taught me. Like you can never ever forget your core, original, first audience. You cannot,

because that other audience will come and go. There'll be ebbs and flows, but black people will hold you up throughout. If if you stay with us we stay with you i feel like that's what made scandal such a hit absolutely i mean we were part of the birth of black twitter um at the time so i one of my best friends from high school she's a brilliant social media person allison peters she actually convinced me to go on twitter and And I was like, what? Why? I don't know. And she was like, she had come out of Viacom and was like, it's really important. You need to do this. And she and I kind of talked Shonda Rhimes into talking the cast into being

on Twitter. And we were one of the first shows to do live tweeting and to really have event television at a time where people were no longer watching shows in real time unless it was like a basketball game and so that conversation around the show was our grassroots movement like we had black twitter on fire people like oprah eventually were like i only started watching scandal because it's the only thing people talked about on thursday nights on twitter so yes in that first season it was absolutely because black audiences, you know how culture follows us. So black audiences made it that you had to be there to tune in. And suddenly it trickled out into the rest of the world. How often do people come up to you to fix?

I can't ask about the dance, but you can ask about the Olivia Poe. All the time. And to be honest, because the show was inspired by a real woman, Judy Smith, who's a real D.C. fixer who never slept with the president, but was a real fixer. And I have her on speed dial. So people also will come to me to get to her because they know she is truly able to fix stuff. Have you needed her? I haven't needed her, but I've sent other people to her. Yes. But I've talked to her. I mean, like not not on like I'm in jail. It's 2 a.m.

Help me out. But like, you know, if there's a rollout of a movie and I'm like, I don't know, this director is a little bit of a problem. What do you think? You know, I've done I've had those kind of conversations with her. Yeah. But people do. You know, it's funny. Like it'll happen in political moments. A lot of my political work now is inspired by the fact that in 2016, the morning after the election, when that awful, rapist, racist person was elected, that when I woke up, all over social media, people were like, you have to save us. What are you going to do? Please, Olivia Pope. And it was funny for a minute. And then I was like, we have a real problem in our culture

because we don't realize that Olivia Pope is an imaginary character on a television show. And that every single person who wrote one of those tweets, they have more power than Olivia Pope because she can't vote. She can't register voters.

She can't volunteer. She can't knock on doors. But it's like we've given our power over to imaginary people because we have this hero worship right so we're not stepping into our power because we're looking for somebody else to solve our problems for us so a lot of the work that i've been doing has been trying to figure out how to turn the spotlight that's on me on to those grassroots organizations and people who are really doing the work so when people saw you with uh the vice president the other day, they probably went crazy. She's back!

She's at the White House! I want to ask one more question about your father. How did finding out your father wasn't your biological father change your views on parenthood? Oh, man. One thing I say in the book is, and it's what I feel, is that in our community, where

people have historically had such difficult relationships, where there's what I feel, is that in our community, where people have historically had such difficult relationships, right, where there's this history of dads maybe not being present, you know, in the neighborhood that I grew up in, I grew up in one of the few households where the dad was around, and, you know, my parents were still married. And the fact looking back that my dad really did choose me, that he was there. He's been there for me the whole time, that he's been this parental force in my life, that he's my dad, that he chose me, that I belong to him and he belongs to me.

It almost meant more than it ever did before. And I feel really grateful. You contemplated suicide at one point yeah what got you there first of all and then how did you get through it because i'm sure there's there's people listening now that might be in that same zone and trying to work themselves through it every day so what got you to that point where you felt that way and then how did you get over that obstacle when you say there might be people listening who feel that way it's like my heart breaks because i just know how hard it is to feel that alone and that hopeless so if anybody's listening and is feeling that way the

one thing i would say is to ask for help you know is to really ask for help because you are you feel alone but i guarantee you you are not alone. And for me, that was the big thing was, I mean, number one, it was the first time that I truly got on my knees and talked to God and was like, I need help. Like I don't, I, cause I felt like I really don't have any tools. I don't, I don't know what to do. So it was the first time that I think I humbled myself enough to feel like there's got to be something bigger than me that points me in the direction of healing and i started reaching out i went to therapy for the first time group therapy one-on-one like i just really started committing to trying to walk this road of healing i swear by it i swear by

therapy all right we got more with kerry washington when we come back don't move it's the breakfast club good morning morning everybody it's dj nv charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club our special guest co-host laura la rosa is here and we're still kicking it with kerry washington charlamagne you're talking about traveling in the black famous chapter you talk about going to africa yeah to become african how did that trip change you um so i was filming last king of scotland that was my first time on the continent. And it was great because I do feel like sometimes as black people in America, we go to Africa with all these like, do I belong here? Do I feel at home?

Like, what is my relationship here? And I just had to put all of that aside because my focus was on just kind of dropping in and becoming a Ugandan woman. And I really did feel at home there. I did. I felt so lucky to be able to be so immersed in the culture that I wasn't there like, you know, as a tourist. And I took it when I was there. I don't know if you've heard about this experience. It's not in the book, but we were hiking in the Rwenzori Mountains, which are the mountains that border Rwanda and Uganda. And it's where the only wild gorillas live. And you can go out with a gorilla trekker

and find the gorillas in the jungle and spend time with them. You go with like a tour guide and these trekkers and these guys with AK-47s just in case. Now you see how Shalami said the craziest people are from the Bronx. I was just thinking like,

you really be walking to the border. People travel from all over the world to have this experience because it is one of the most intense spiritual experiences I've ever had. The second one is my experience with the whales that I write about at the end of the book. But it was like to be in the jungle, to be with these creatures, and you realize we really do share, like, 97%, 98% of our DNA with these animals. And they are, you start to think, to think like oh they're so human but

no like we are so gorilla and the craziest thing that happened was when they give you this uh orientation in the morning they're like if a gorilla gets close to you and is looking at you the most important thing to do is not run you have to to feel safe act like a gorilla so i was like wait a second i couldn't get around the white people wait a second I'm telling you that right now I was gonna say see I didn't I didn't hear it through that lens cause for me

I was like a young actor who had done animal exercises at school like this was my opportunity for this was my

Meryl Streep moment so when the gorilla came down from the tree I was like I squat down I mean everybody in my group

was like what is she when I tell you that is the best performance of my life I was I was the gorilla the gorilla was me i started i picked off a leaf started chewing on it and we had the most incredible experience because this gorilla gorilla kept getting closer and closer to us and this little baby gorilla she was so curious she was like what we've never seen a human like this we don't act like that no she was like that one's one of us but with clothes

so what did the gorilla do they got closer the trucker said than they'd ever had a gorilla get to a group before I mean the guy with the AK-47 came right next to me because they were terrified but I was like don't stop don't stop yeah it was incredible were you the only person acting like a gorilla how do you know they didn't tell you that just to be funny

because the experience that we got out of it i mean they said it to everybody in the group but i was the best actor in the group gotcha gotcha wow yeah when all of this is done like everybody gets the book they get to read it everybody should get the book yes i read the audio book it's me and my own words so that's fun what is the What is the hug or the message that you want people to get from this book? I think, and this is something that I've written in the book,

but there's a saying I heard a long time ago that I really love that we are as sick as our secrets. That's right. And that when, I think when we can let go of the things that keep our true selves hidden, we can let go of the things that keep our true selves hidden, we can let go of our shame. You know, I knew when my parents told me, I realized that they had been living under this lie for so long

that every time I had said I love you to my dad, whether it was conscious or unconscious, there must have been a part of him that thought, she loves me because she thinks I am her father. Wow. And there must have been a part of him that thought, loves me because she thinks I am her father. And there must have been a part of him that thought if she knew I wasn't her father, maybe she won't love me. That's part of why they didn't tell me. And so I had the opportunity once they gave me that truth

to actually for the first time, love my father unconditionally. And that's what we all deserve. That's what we all want. We want to know that no matter what we do or how we act or what we've done in the past, that we're lovable and that we're loved. And I feel like my family's in that place now, but you only get there when you expose your truth. When you're vulnerable enough to show people who you are and they love you anyway, then you know that you are worthy of unconditional love but i think your father proves that you know just because somebody provides sperm doesn't make them a father that's right he's an actual yeah that's right that's right and it's

even like people will say like well do you know who your biological father is and i'm still wrapping my head honestly around that language like do you want to know who the donor is i was literally about to actually do i'm searching i'm looking and again not because i need a daddy right like i'm not looking for an emotional connection i'm really open i mean i say that now who knows what it was like you never know like he could walk in the room and i could be like um but i think i'm just really curious about that 50% of me, that genetic 50% of me. I think there is a question. I know what I've gotten from my dad. I know from my dad I've gotten my sense of humor, my imagination, my belief in the impossible, my ability to tell a story.

I know what I've gotten from my mom, my intellect, my intellectual curiosity, my grace, my compassion. I don't know what I've gotten from the donor. I'm curious what part comes from him. And I'm curious just in terms of my medical history. I feel like I owe that to my kids, that they should know where they come from. But the emotional part of it, I'm open to let it be what it's going to be. Maybe it'll feel like I have additional family. Maybe it'll just feel like I have additional information.

I feel good either way. Can we end with something you said in the epilogue? And I feel like it can relate to so many people. You say my life is not about my donor nor about my parents. My life is my own. What does that mean to you? And what could that mean to others? Yeah. So when my parents told me this information, I realized because they had built this narrative, this false narrative about where I came from. I realized that in many ways I had been the supporting character in their story. Right. Like they were living this life. They were Earl and Valerie, parents of this beautiful child, successful middle class black family. Like I was the supporting character in that fable.

And when they gave me the truth, I felt like part of why I wanted to write the book was that it was time for me to step into being the lead character in the story of my life, to not let my life belong to them, to say like, I deserve to be on this journey, this quest, because I have my own story like I get it you had four decades of living this your way but it's my turn to kind of take this narrative and figure out what my life means for me so I love my parents I do love being a supporting character in their life but that has to be a choice I have to know that fundamentally my life is my own and that they because I have the most incredible parents, they now have the opportunity and have allowed themselves to be supporting characters in my story.

And a lot of what I've learned about parenting has been about that choice on their part, because they have allowed themselves to be supporting characters for me in this moment, which is humbling for all of us, but them in particular, right? And as I look forward at my kids, I realize this is my moment. Like this book, I am the protagonist of this book, but I'm also the supporting character in the story of my kids. And I want them to know that I have their back and that they have to live their own life. They shouldn't be living in the ways that make me comfortable. They shouldn't be making choices that are for make me comfortable. They shouldn't be making choices

that are for my own good. They have to make the right choices for them in the way that I'm making the right choices for me now. Well, we appreciate you for joining us this morning. Thicker Than Water

is out right now. Yeah. Well, come see us on tour. We're going to be in Chicago, D.C., Atlanta, L.A. I'm going to be in conversation with Gabrielle Union, Tyler Perry, Bellamy Young

Tony Goldwyn, it's an incredible lineup so come see us out on the road get her out of here, she's holding in a cough that's right it's Carrie Washington it's the Breakfast Club, good morning morning everybody, it's DJ NV, Charlamagne Tha Guy, we are the Breakfast Club

Law and La Rosa's here, good morning good morning, salute to Carrie Washington for pulling up, man, and make sure you go get her book, Thicker Than Water, which is available right now. Yes. Great read. Then y'all feel like I got a hug from that conversation? Oh, yeah.

Her energy is great. It's everything. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Her energy is fantastic. Well, let's get to the rumors. Let's go. Lauren LaRosa.

I've been here for a little bit. I've been here for a minute. Move out the way. Tell her. Tell her. Man, it's the rumor report. i think a lot of people will recognize the voice in the name on the breakfast club lauren came in hot you know i came in telling the truth so there may be a new couple alert soon if this goes well so chloe bailey was on a apple music show called the dotty show and she was asked who is your celebrity crush and here is how she answered it's michael b jordan that's my celebrity crush i've been said that in interviews even like years ago but have you told him no this is where we gotta work on your shoe in your shot chloe i don't

shoot my shot. So how is he going to know? I don't know. I think you should right now DM Michael B. Jordan. No. You could be blocking your blessings, and I know you're big on blessings. I'm big on blessings, but I'm like, God will bring my blessings to me when they're supposed to be there. We've got to stop expecting our blessings to land at our door, Chloe.

But when we try to force it, we could block other blessings. And then you end up giving them the ick. Exactly. Wow, what is it about Michael B Jordan? Wow, look at you blushing like he's in the room. That's crazy No Charlemagne how does that make you feel? Oh you talking about that's your cousin. She's a grown woman I just feel like when you're a celebrity though and you put something out that like that in the air woman. I'm just asking. That's what I'm saying. She allowed to have crushes. Yeah, she can make her own decisions. I'm just asking.

I just feel like when you're a celebrity, though, and you put something like that in the air. It's kind of like shooting your shot. Yeah, if he's available,

because I don't know if he's dating again or whatever since Louis Harvey, but if he's available. That's shooting your shot. A hundred percent. And by the way,

even if he's not available, Khloe don't care about all them white women that Michael B. Jordan probably surrounded with white men. Stop it, yo. I mean,

that's another thing. She's light skinned though no he was dating laurie harvey we dated laurie harvey laurie harvey's black i feel like the darkest he probably might go is uh chloe so she might have a shot damn it man that's disrespectful we don't know who he did before do we exactly that i've seen i mean i i don't maybe you just couldn't keep it the white women because laurie harvey isn't a white woman no i know she's not she's not but i'm talking about after the white women he's probably surrounded by a bunch of milk right now so what i'm saying what you're saying is worse than what i'm saying you don't care about all that milk anyway i think like pour all this milk out we lactose intolerantant. Okay. I just thought it was cute.

I don't know where this just went, but I thought it was cute. I don't know either. I just be talking. Don't listen to me. I be lying. But shout out to Michael B. Jordan. Yeah.

And I think it's fire too. I think it's fire too that she is so open about it. She shooting her shot. Like you shot your shot with Travis yesterday. No, no, no. That wasn't me shooting my shot with...

That was definitely you shooting your shot. Speaking of milk, that was definitely shooting your shot at Travis Kelsey. You, no, no. That wasn't me shooting my shot with... That was definitely you shooting your shot. Speaking of milk, that was definitely shooting your shot at Travis Kelce. You were shooting your shot. That was a little shoot. We not going back there.

Little shoot. Little shot. One thing about men when they scoring, y'all just can't let it go, huh? Scoring men, y'all, that's a bad B right there. Okay? We gonna move on.

We gonna talk about Khloe. We gonna talk about J. Cole. So, I don't know. Hopefully that works out. I can see them together. Michael B. Jordan used to be one of my crushes too. I think he's everybody's.

Everybody has had like a little thing with him too. What about the age difference though? Cause what? He's 36. She's what? 24? That doesn't matter.

That doesn't matter? I like seeing Michael B. Jordan with black women. I would like that too. Why are you saying it to me? Like I'm the judge of the jury. I'm just saying. I like seeing Michael B. Jordan

with black women. You sure? That's what like seeing Michael B. Jordan with black women. You sure you... That's what the B stands for. Michael Black Women Jordan. That's what we want it to stand for. Gotcha. Not Michael Becky Jordan. Yo, shut up, man.

Oh my God. Well, shout out to them. I hope that they figure it out in the DMs if he is available. Mm-hmm. Now, moving on. This guy's crazy. Moving on.

So J. Cole shared something yesterday. He shared a letter from colin kaepernick now this letter was a letter that colin kaepernick wrote to the jets uh back on september 21st um and jay cole said in the caption that he uh he had to actually ask colin kaepernick if he was able to share the letter colin was a little bit reluctant but jay cole said he wanted to share this letter because he wanted people to see how much colin still wants to play football and how ready he is um now the letter which is addressed to uh joe douglas the general manager of the jets uh it basically just outlines the fact that j cole and his team know that they are that the jets are at a big loss since aaron

rogers uh was injured and although they have uh zach Zach Wilson and now they have another person that they brought in on Tuesday he feels like he wants to lead their practice team because this will give the Jets a reason to be watching him see how prepared he is it can also help the team and then basically if they need a kind of contingency plan he's there and he's already ready so this letter was sent on the 21st there are reports though that the jets have recently brought in um a new player as of tuesday a quarterback named trevor saman saman yeah trevor saman so practice squad yeah to the practice squad so i don't know if that means that it's over for colin in that potential i love colin kaepernick and i love everything he did for the

sport i love everything he did for standing up for people. But the problem I have now is it seems like he's begging to get back into the league. I hate like and I don't like to see that. You know, I mean, it's like you've done a lot. The league is boxed you out. And it's to the point now. I don't want to see him asking to get back. I wish that they didn't share that letter. I wish that letter was never written.

That letter was tragically sad and downright pathetic. Colin Kaepernick has let his setback become his identity and I hate that for him. God exalted Colin Kaepernick into a position of leadership in regard to activism

and it pains me to see that man still begging to be in a league that he called racist and compared to a plantation. And I hate that he can never speak for himself. He always got somebody else speaking for him or putting out his messaging for him. That's so whack to me. I wish Colin the best in all his endeavors, but this begging, you know,

these same people you called racist for an opportunity is pitiful. I just don't like it. It's pitiful. I'd rather him go to, what's the other league that they created? The XFL league or any other league. But the fact that they boxed him out, they don't want him in the league. That's clear. Very clear.

And I asked earlier in the room, how good of a football player was he? Because the way that they just threw him out after all that, you would think that he wasn't good. He was a good player. I heard he was good. It don't even matter. It's been seven years,

and God exalted Colin Kaepernick into a position of leadership. Now, I understand. He's been playing football probably since he was three years old, so that's all he knows, and that's what he wants because he knows something else now god put him in another position now stop looking back and look forward it's easy for you to say but when you're competitive and you've been playing since you've been three and all you wanted was that ring and you haven't got that ring that's probably what will make him stop is getting that ring it is pitiful to call an organization racist compared to a plantation and then

still be begging to go back on that plantation. You call America racist and you live here. That's a stupid, I hate when people say that. I've never known anything else. He doesn't know anything other than football. He's been playing football since three. And you have the resources and the means to move to another country. You're very successful.

Lauren, what you said makes zero sense, but I'm going to let the YouTube comments and social media Lauren, what you said makes zero sense, but I'm going to let the YouTube comments and social media tell you what you said. Listen, the way that they've been getting me all week, that's totally fine with me,

but I just hate it. Just make sure y'all at me when y'all do it so people can follow me at Lauren and Rosa or Eaton. All right. Well, that is your rumor report.

Who you giving that down on Katoop? For after the hour, man, we need to explain why you don't fight fries with fire. Oh, boy. We'll discuss.

All right. We're getting to that next. It's The Breakfast Club. with fire. Oh, boy. We'll discuss. All right, we'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Is this donkey up to date? Maybe.

Damn, the hee-haw again? It's time for donkey of the day. I ain't trying to be donkey of the day no more. They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm not making these people do these things. I called called donkey of the day and it really caught me off guard damn solomon who got the donkey of the day today yes donkey today for wednesday september 27th goes to a houston woman named alania ford and now this case happened okay this case i'm about to tell y'all about happened in march of 2021 but the surveillance footage has just been released okay uh see what had happened was alania ford used to

work at jack in the box and she shot at a customer in the drive-thru all because they got into an argument because jack in the box forgot this family's order of curly fries i can't make this kind of stuff up let's go to fox 26 news for the report, please. A Jack in the Box employee opened fire on drive-thru customers. A family had their dog, their six-year-old daughter in the car with them when they got into a dispute with an employee over a missing curly

fries from an order at that Jack in the Box. As Ramos pulls up to that drive-thru window, he's then greeted by Alania Ford. And once his food was handed over, an order of curly fries were missing from the bag. When he asked for them, he was told no. That's when the argument started. You can see Ramos in his red pickup truck going back and forth with Ford. She walks away, comes back, and the argument continues. Another employee approaches the

window to try and resolve the situation. But in the midst of that, Ford comes back and starts arguing with Ramos yet again. She starts throwing ketchup packets into his truck window. So he started throwing things back. But then Ford comes back yet again, points her gun directly at Ramos and starts shooting as he speeds away. Luckily, none of those bullets struck Ramos's vehicle and no one was injured. Ford was charged and convicted of deadly conduct and recent documents show her probation ended in June of 2023

this is why you can't fight fries with fire Jesus especially in Texas all right look man I understand folks be going through things folks are stressed out emotionally and mentally people are at capacity and this is really why we have to be kind to everyone we encounter because you never know what folks are going through not making excuses for this woman at all because she made a choice i'm going to get your firearm because y'all having a dispute over some damn curly fries is a choice all right choosing to fire said firearm at an individual not just an individual a whole family over curly fries is a choice this man was in the car with his pregnant wife and his six-year-old i also would like to say fast food workers of america it's never that serious i literally was

listening to bishop td jake sermon uh from this past sunday called the inescapable role of service there is no greater purpose on this planet for any of us other than to be of service you as a fast food worker are providing a service we are grateful for the service you provide it's a bunch of people right now trying to get to work, trying to get to school. And they are depending on you right now in that drive through to be prompt and precise so they can get what they ordered in a timely manner to make it where they need to be. So drop on the clues bombs for all the fast food workers out there being in service this morning. OK, and doing their job but this is also why we appreciate chick-fil-a workers because the one thing all of us remember about chick-fil-a workers is the way they make us feel okay they make us feel so good all right my wife and i got crystal franchises we got crystal franchises opening

that's all i want our employees to be is kind i want folks to leave the establishment feeling good because the interaction is pleasant if something is missing from the order you check the receipt see that they did indeed pay for it and give it to them this is why i don't why i don't understand alinea ford what would it have hurt you to give this family their order of curly fries how much is an order of them little funky ass curly fries a dollar okay at the end of the night there's probably a bunch of curly fries left over that y'all just throw out there's probably several orders of curly fries dropped on the floor, jack-in-the-box right now. The president of the Fat Lives Matter committee who works here at the Breakfast Club, you'll get to see him in 2024. We need him to lose some weight before he makes his debut.

But he wants me to remind y'all fast food workers that you don't get employer of the month for saving the company money on any products all right it don't matter if it's fountain drinks sauces apple pies napkins straws french fries you don't get a bonus for saving these items your boss does not walk up to you and say we love the way you don't give people anything extra okay and now you have been promoted this never happens and i promise you jack in the box employees jack is not dying for you all right there's no reason to take your job that serious that you get in a dispute over some damn curly fries and it damn sure is not serious enough for you to pull a pistol out and get things popping like the grease those fries came out of aliana ford aliana ford was convicted of aggravated

assault with a deadly weapon documents revealed that her probation concluded in June of 2023. Aliana, you really tried your hardest to go from jacking the box to being in the box, eating box. I don't know how you just got probation for this. Whoa. You are actually about the wrong life. Instead of being about thug life, you should be about that fast food life. Because when you choose this fast food life, you have to be about this fast food life you have to know that when items is missing folks are going to complain especially with fries because i'm not sharing my fries i got a pregnant wife and a six-year-old in

the car they want fries you know damn well women and kids look at our fries as their fries especially when they don't have no have no fries so you get them their own fries aliana it is your job as a fast food worker to serve because as a customer, I did my job and served you. I spent my money with the establishment you work at, which ultimately helps you to pay your bills.

Look, we all make mistakes. And you know that saying, don't be afraid to make mistakes because that's how you learn and grow. Well, this don't apply to this. All right, shooting at someone over some curly fries is a mistake you should be afraid to make. And this is why I never underestimate the power of human stupidity, because only two things are infinite.

The universe and human stupidity. And I'm not even sure about the former. OK, please give Aliana Ford the sweet sounds of the Hamilton's. Oh, no, you are the donkey of the day. You are the donkey of the day. Yee-haw. I want curly fries now. Now I want curly fries.

Never mind. Never mind. Never mind. Never mind. Shouldn't the guy that didn't get the curly fries be mad and how you mad and shoot at me and you didn't give me the curly exactly like why she and can we talk about the sauces again because they be holding on to them sauces tight i have no idea why and you said curly fries be like 99 cents they'd be like three dollars now curly fries yes at jack in the

box mcdonald's is three dollars too damn the curly fries are good oh we got fries at house then i like to you got fries at home and she's been working there 13 years too i just want to put that out there damn all right all right well peace p.e.t we'll see you tomorrow see you later what are you doing the colin cavernic topic yeah okay all right well let's open up the phone lines 800-585--1051. If you're just joining us, Laura LaRosa reported about Colin Kaepernick sending the Jets a letter, right? Yes. What did the letter say? He wants to help them get ready for the opponents they're going to come up against, including like a Jalen Hurts. And number two, it will show the team that he is ready to play. And in case anything happens with the people that they may be going with to replace Aaron, he's right there.

He's ready. He's the best contender. That letter was tragically sad and downright pathetic. And like I just said, Colin Kaepernick has let his setback become his identity. And I hate that for him. Well, let's talk about it. 800-585-1051 what are your thoughts do you feel like charlemagne that the letter's sad and he shouldn't be thinking about getting back in the league or do you feel like he's been doing it since he was three years old

and he still has goals he still has things on his bucket list at what point do you realize god exalted you into a better position god exalted you to a greater purpose because that's what i feel like he did with colin kaepernick He exalted him into a position of leadership in regards to activism. Well, let's talk about it when we come back. Because, you know, although also, you know,

I wouldn't be mad if Colin Kaepernick went to an HBCU and started coaching. I wouldn't be mad at that. That's fantastic. Was that not on the table? Like, why? I don't know.

That's so unbrained for him? I don't know. I mean, that's what I would love. We talk about those programs. That's what I would love because he would bring eyes to those programs like a Howard, a Hampton, a FAMU.

Well, nothing would be on the table because you can block your blessings when you're unwilling to let certain things go. Well, let's discuss. We'll talk when we come back. 800-585-1051. It's The Breakfast Club. Come on in. The Breakfast Club. It's topic time call 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion with the breakfast club

morning everybody it's dj envy charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club lauren la rosa our special guest host is here and if you're just joining us we're talking about colin kaepernick now you reported a story lauren in rumors whators. What was the letter that he wrote to the Jets? Colin Kaepernick wrote a letter to the Jets asking to lead their practice team for two reasons. He says that he thinks that he can get the team ready for all the competition they're going to be coming up against in a way that won't, like, threaten Zach or whoever will be playing in Aaron Rodgers' spot. But also, he wants the team to see that he is ready to play. He is the best contingency plan if anyone gets injured or just can't do the job.

So we're asking 800-585-1051. What are your thoughts? Charlamagne? I'm going to say exactly what I said a little while ago. It's tragically sad and downright pathetic that Colin Kaepernick wrote that letter because he has let his setback become his identity. You know what I mean? I said it a million times.

God exalted Colin kaepernick into a position of leadership in regards to activism and it pains me to see that man begging to be in a league that he called racist and compared to a plantation and i hate that he can never speak for himself he always got somebody else speaking for him or putting out messaging for him that's so whack to me and i wish colin the best in all his endeavors but just begging the same people he called racist for an opportunity is absolutely pitiful to me lauren um i thought that at first if he got back in he was going to be able to do like the whole i can change within but y'all saying it's not giving that i don't understand why he would want

to be there like i would never go back to something I left that wasn't good for me. See, I do see both sides, right? And the reason I see both sides is because I do feel like he's begging to get back in the league. And I don't like that. I don't like the fact that the league has boxed you out. The letter was given very, yes, sir. Yeah. And they gave you so many reasons why they don't want you in the league.

Yeah. They gave you so many reasons why they don't want you in the league. And you still are begging to get back in the league. Yeah. They give you so many reasons why they don't want you in the league. And you still are begging to get back in the league. I don't like that. But on the flip side, trying to sit in Colin Kaepernick's shoes as a young boy at three years old that's been doing football. And football ain't easy, right? As a dad that my kids play football, it's five days a week, rain, snow, or whatever.

One game on Sunday. And then back on practice again. It's very, it's a lot. lot and these are years he's probably been doing this for 20 30 years it's his whole life so it's his whole life so to him he's probably never closed that chapter and that and that chapter might be a ring it might be playoffs it might be one of those things that he's never got that and let's not let's be let's be serious let's be honest the jets are trash the jets need somebody so it's not like it's a far fetch i think i think to me listening to y'all talk about the quarterbacks that they have right now in that position and how bad they are and the fact that he wrote this letter and it basically went ignored and they brought in somebody else that hurt my heart even

more because i feel like the way that i look at colin kaepernick for what he did is just like man forget them people like we got you wherever you go right financially but I understand athletes religiously cannot give it up sometimes until they forced to sometimes when God exalts you into a position that's greater than football you know you got to leave who you were love who you are and look forward to who you will become you know I mean like I think that the purpose that he serves now and has served over the last few years is way greater than football. And it's kind of a slap in the face to God to not embrace that and not accept that and continue to beg the same people you called racist and said the league was a plantation. You begging to be back in chains, Colin?

I'm using your words. You said that this is a plantation. So you begging, please chain me up, master. You can put me on the practice squad. I don't even want to be on the actual team. Chain me up with the practice squad. I like that, but it's also, and I'm not comparing him to a druggie, but it's almost like a druggie, right?

And when I mean a druggie, you can't tell a druggie when it's time to give it up. They have to tell themselves. They have to say, you know what? I'm giving up drugs. And for him, he has to give up that chase. And he hasn't given up that chase yet. There's also, I don't want to hear anybody comparing him to tell themselves. They have to say, you know what? I'm giving up drugs. And for him, he has to give up that chase. And he hasn't given up that chase yet. There's also, I don't want to hear anybody comparing him to Muhammad Ali. People do that? Because when Muhammad Ali...

What? What the hell? No, people do that. Because when Muhammad Ali, you know, got his boxing license script, you know, he ate that. Because he understood that what he was standing for was bigger than boxing but he got to fight again you know he got after a few years but he but he but in those few years he never made it about him he always kept it about the movement he always kept it about the message that he was standing for always and when you make stands that are bigger than you you know

that there's going to be consequences and repercussions and that comes with it and you have to be willing to deal with that when you make these kind of stands. Well, let's go to the phone lines. Hello, who's this? Yeah, this is Ken Roberts, man. Call up a Florida. Ken, what's up, man? What's your thought? What you think? I'm just saying, calling Kevin's neck, man. Football is in his heart.

I'm a man of God, so I understand the heart. Whatever's in your heart will control you. So the man wrote a letter. It's like you messed up with one of your friends or your mom or your dad. You can't speak it, but you want to put on a letter to write it. He wrote a letter. He's trying to get back in the league. What's wrong with that?

But black man. Black man. Black man. He didn't mess up with the NFL. The NFL did him dirty. He didn't mess up with the NFL. I know it. I know it.

So why should he be writing a letter begging to get back with the person who broke his heart that did him dirty? Hello, who's this? Oh, we're not using no common sense here this morning. Yes. What's your name, mama? This is Uniqua. Hey, Uniqua. Good morning.

What's your thoughts? Good morning. Good morning. Yes, you know what? It's terrible that Colin Kaepernick even has to beg for his die back. Why? Because he's a great football player and I think it's no reason for him not to be able

to do both things. Advocate for black rights and rights of black people and the treatment that we're going through and him being a football player because that's what he does. The only thing is if you're doing both, there's

going to be so much repercussions. Like, there's no way you can go into a job and say, y'all racist, y'all do this, y'all do that, and expect them to employ you of the month of you. Like, there has to be a separation of the two. I would think once you say that about your employee, you're done with him. I would think once you tell him. Unless you need money or something like that, but he doesn't need it. I'm trying to figure out what the. Keith.

Yo. What's your thought, Keith? Heyith hey man this key from florida man isn't isn't colin breaking like one of the 48 laws of power you never beg your enemy for mercy why would you do something like that you already caught the races why would you go back to try to apply in the league that said numerous times that they don't want you? I called one of my employees racist. I will never go back to that job again. That's right. I mean, it's the truth.

Once you set fire to the plantation, the plantation is burned down. You think Django set fire? I'm going to use a real character. You think Nat Turner was rescuing all those people and killed all those slave masters and their family only to bring people

back to the plantation? You know, once you do that, you're trying to escape. You asking us or Kanye? 800-585-1051. We're talking Colin Kaepernick. Colin Kaepernick

wrote a letter to the Jets said he wanted to be on their practice squad. What's your thoughts? Let's discuss as the Breakfast Club Good Morning. It's topic time. Colin Kaepernick. Colin Kaepernick wrote a letter to the Jets, said he wanted to be on their practice squad. What's your thoughts? Let's discuss this at The Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's topic time.

Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club. Let's talk about it. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got our special guest co-host, Laura La Rosa. Yes, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got our special guest co-host, Laura LaRosa. Yes, sir. And if you're just joining us, we're talking about Colin Kaepernick.

Now, what happened with Colin Kaepernick and the letter he sent to the Jets? So Colin Kaepernick wrote a letter to the Jets asking to lead their practice squad to help them get ready for the opposition and to basically show them whenever they need a quarterback he's ready he's going to be the go-to and yes i said the practice squad charlie i don't like him begging for the spot i do understand that he's been doing this probably since a young kid and he's been doing it all his life and this is what he wants he hasn't closed that chapter in his life but i just feel like at this point you're begging and i would prefer you use everything that you know your skills the practices and i would rather you go everything that you know your skills the practices

and i would rather you go to a hbcu and teach those to me that would be so fun i mean and it's this there's a bunch of them that that need the help that need the eyes on them and i think that will get a lot of students to go to hbcus because the eyes will be in that school wouldn't that be the most powerful thing to do but the reason the reason that that colin probably can't see things like that is because he's let his identity, I mean, he's let his setback become his identity. And we all know in order to stop blocking blessings, you have to let things go. You can't hold on to things of the past.

You know what I'm saying? You got to let go of the past, but keep the lessons it taught you. You know what I mean? But you got to let it go. When you say that about the identity, what do you mean? He's let his setback become his identity because God exalted him into a position of leadership and activism. If Colin would have really just focused on that and kept that going and said, really? F the NFL. I didn't call them racist.

I didn't call it a plantation. I don't want to be over there no more. I'm going to be over here helping my people. We'd be looking at him like that. But now we're looking at him as this pitiful person who keeps begging the NFL, begging this plantation to be back in chains. I don't like it. We got mad people online. Hello, who's this?

Mayor Rich Thomas from Mount Vernon. Hey, Mayor Rich from Mount Vernon. You the mayor? The actual mayor? Yeah, former mayor, former mayor. Oh, former mayor Mount Vernon. I had the pleasure of engaging with Kaepernick through Ambassador Shabazz when he was going through the movement. And the reality is, you know, look, perhaps, Charlamagne, you should ask a bigger question.

How come the league won't let him play? It's not like he can't throw the ball. It's not like he didn't play in the Super Bowl. You know, he's been blacklisted. We know this, though. Yeah, we know this, but the bottom line is the Jets, just like any other team that needs a quarterback, should consider Cap.

I say bring back Cap, give him a shot to throw the ball again. He has something to play for. Even though he, you know, let him move it, it's time for him

to get back on the field and play some ball. Can I ask a bigger question? Can I ask a bigger question? Why do we want this for Cap? If Cap said that, if Cap said it's racist, if Cap said he's been blacklisted if cap

said it's a plantation why would we want to send our brother back on the plantation well he said he wants to play maybe there have been changes you know look jay-z has had success in negotiating some i want to call a form of reparations for the league right for the players for the entertainers the music scene in the past super bowls so i think it think it's time for Kaep to get back to play. Why not let him get on the field and play ball? Thank you, man. I will say this, though, and this is not right, and I know people are going to be mad at the way that this is said,

but if you create a stank in the league, right, where people feel a certain way about you, this is a business. And if I own one of those teams, would you want to hire Kaepernick on your team, not knowing what he's going to do, not knowing what he's going to bring to your team when you just want to bring wins? I mean, I think that's a decision that if you're an owner, I think a lot of those owners which are not black or white owners, we have one black owner, which is Magic Johnson. They don't even want to hear from the wives of the players. So you think that they want to get put Colin Kaepernick on their team to then be able to have conversations and like all of that, right?

No, to answer your question, but this is all stuff that we know. Correct. So I don't, like, unless he's able to come in and really from the inside infiltrate, I don't see what it does for, his life is not just about him and football anymore. He is so much more now to us.

That's what I thought. He is. He's going to realize it. Jazzy, good morning. Good morning. What's going to realize it. Jazzy, good morning. Good morning. What's your thoughts, Jazzy? I'm sitting outside of a Wawa before I go in. Okay, go ahead. Talk to us. But anyways, I agree with Charlamagne,

mainly because of the fact that you're begging to be somewhere where they don't want you. It's kind of embarrassing in a sense. It's like instead of, you know i i understand that he footballs his life whatever but create your own lane create your own table do a junior league do training camp do something that uh they'll see you for you they'll see you by yourself instead of surround you with that nfl drama that nfl bullcrap like yeah roger goodell like gave him an apology but was it really an apology because he still ain't hired so why are you still trying to get in there and it's sad it's sad it's sad that we want to we we we begging him to go

it's like we're pushing him to go back it's like no no you you you left the plantation you told us about the atrocities that are happening on the plantation the plantation or was he fired from the plantation he was fired right because he didn't leave he was fired he was let go um and he called him out he called him out and obviously that that was true because they apologized they cut him a check we don't know how much the check was for and he wants to play and i get it but it is it's to the point where it's like when do you let it go but you know like i said he's been doing this since probably the age of three this is all he knows and that book that chapter in his book is not done for himself man when god exalts you to a position of leadership the way he did colin kaepernick you have to go lead playing devil's advocate though right if he was to be able to get back on the team

and he can't really do or say too much just him playing is that a symbol of aha in your faces like does that mean anything no it's a symbol of oh we racist we the plantation but you begged us to come get put back in chains now you back in chains working for us again how was that going to change the league in any way shape or form like like like how was that going to change the system of the nfl and lauren you said something what you asked me earlier you said uh what'd you say about america oh i said you still stay here even though there's a lot yeah yeah the difference i think is america is a system that we were all born into and it's a system that promises us certain things it promises its citizens certain things freedom liberty and

justice for all what we've historically seen is this system only provides justice for some right and we have fought against this system since the beginning of time we aren't begging to be a part of this system we are a part of this system and as it currently is we don't like it and we're demanding for things to change kyle is not doing that he called them racist compared them to a plantation and now he's just begging to be a part of that system. Did you hear anything in that letter that sounds like he's trying to change the system? It sounds like he's trying to conform. He wants to play football.

He's ready to conform. Like, no. I don't like it, bro. I don't like it. I think it's pathetic. And then it gets back to, and I know it's costly to do the things like Ice Cube is doing and creating our own spaces in our own league. I mean, of course we can't create another NFL because that would cost billions and billions

and billions and billions of dollars. But we've seen the success that Ice Cube has had with Big 3 and it's given a lot of players another opportunity. And hopefully one day we can create that for ourselves. And also, man, just one more point. Yes, sir. Colin took a knee for police brutality. Correct.

We salute him We celebrate him He took a knee to raise awareness To the brutality that black and brown people Were facing at the hands of the police As soon as he got backlash As soon as he got blacklisted Somehow that movement turned into

Justice for Colin What happened to the bigger issue which is taking the knee for police brutality that's what this was about this wasn't about you know oh colin's getting blacklisted from the nfl we should have expected colin to get blacklisted from the nfl when you make a stand like that and then you call this the nfl racist and call the nfl a plantation we should expect that. And he got to be able to eat that. And once again, that's why I don't like when people compare it to Muhammad Ali.

Because Muhammad Ali ate it when he got his boxing license script away from him. And he understood that he was standing for something bigger than his boxing career. And I get it. I didn't expect him to get fired out the league. And the reason I didn't expect that is because he wasn't the only one. There was numerous players kneeling. And he was the only one that pretty much, well, there was a couple that got that X. But there was a lot of players doing it.

The first soldier over the hill always takes the most bullets. Right. All right, well, we got rumors on the way. What are we talking about? Yes, we are talking about Nick Cannon and him saying that Mariah Carey saved his life when he first got diagnosed with lupus.

All right, we'll get to that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Come on in. The Breakfast Club. Hi. Hi. Hello. Let's get right to it. Lauren DeRosa. I've been here for a little bit.

I've been here for a minute. Move out the way. Tell her. This is The Rumor Report. I think a lot of people will recognize the voice in the name. On The Breakfast Club. Lauren came in hot. I came in telling the truth.

Now, Nick Cannon is talking about Mariah Carey. He sat down with a podcast called The Diary of a CEO. And he recalled a time where he found out that he had lupus. And he said that he accredits Mariah Carey for finding out or helping him to find out but also once he found out what was happening she basically saved his life let's listen to audio she was my rock man she was um she went hard to be honest probably wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for how hard she went you know with the doctors with me my stubbornness you know, with the doctors, with me, my stubbornness.

You know, she was the perfect helpmate, the perfect matriarch, the perfect mom, the perfect wife in those scenarios. Because granted, she's who she is and dealing with all the pressures of being Mariah Carey, but then being loving enough to take on all of my stuff. And it probably took a toll on us just because of the person I was in my head and the struggles that I was dealing with. So it probably took a toll on our relationship, but it definitely brought us closer together. And he said that they were in Aspen one time

and he had like went out for a jog and he came home and he passed out. And she came home and found him passed out and forced him to go to the ER. And that's how he found out that he had lupus. And once they realized that his immune system was attacking his kidneys. That's what a good woman does for our dumb asses. We so damn stupid. I'm so glad you know y'all dumb.

Because you be not knowing a lot of stuff in here. All right. Could you stop? All right. In relationship, he makes relationship we are we are dumb yeah absolutely but i will say easy on the dumb but not easy on me yesterday no we gonna talk about this but i will say this what i'm you know people if you look at what they say about nick cannon they say he a sucker he's a simp but he gets that all the time why is he always talking

about mariah carey but he loves her that's ex-wife. That's the mother of his children. She saved his life. Talk about all the mothers of his kids in this way. All the mothers of his kids didn't find him, passed out, and asked him to take him to the hospital. Do y'all think that if Nick Cannon and Mariah Carey were to get back together, because a lot of people feel like he's having the other kids and with all these other women because he's missing something and it's her. Do y'all think that that would, is like a thing can that be something i have no

idea this is the kind of conversation y'all be having on black twitter no not just amongst you never heard that like you know men are go out and do things because they're looking for something like people feel like mariah carey is like that missing piece to his puzzle i don't know if mariah's the missing piece but it does feel like he's missing something it feels like he wants something and he hasn't found it now you're talking there you go i don't know if mariah's the missing piece but it does feel like he's missing something it feels like he wants something and he hasn't found it now see now you're talking there you go i don't know if she's the yeah i don't know yeah there you go just take away from the black woman well i don't i think it brings a good point up i don't know if mariah carey's was missing from uh nick's life but maybe something is missing maybe there is something that he needs to heal

i'm not for sure i'm just saying, you know, those things have been said. But I will say that it's good to hear him always, because he does talk about it a lot. And I always used to feel like, why? But hearing this story. I understand, yeah. Yeah, like she literally saved his life. I'm sure she was a positive impact. Yeah, absolutely.

It's good for the kids to hear that. The kids are like, yeah, that's how they want to hear pops talking about their mom. This is so wild. Think about it like this, right? If somebody is beefing with their baby mom, they talk bad about it. They're like, why you talk bad about your baby mom? He talks positive about his ex. Talks positive about his baby mom, his ex-wife, and the mother of his kids.

People are like, why are you always talking about it? What are you supposed to do? I didn't know that. I think it's because it's Mariah Carey. People feel like he was the like he was more involved in the relationship like it because of the power dynamic say what you chest because of the power dynamic what you mean the power dynamic mariah mariah carey just gives way more icon like nick cannon don't nick cannon is huge and he is an icon. Nick is not an icon? I need to see where all this disrespect comes from.

But people will argue that Mariah Carey had the upper hand in the relationship. Why? I don't know. They just do. I think it's the ambiance and the glamour of Mariah Carey. It's because Nick ain't never made honey? I think y'all comparing music catalogs. Don't say y'all.

I'm telling you guys. I'm regurgitating conversations. I think if you're comparing music catalogs, it's not even close. Why would we compare Nick Cannon's music catalogs? Y'all like Jiggaloo? I we compare his music catalog exactly and i think that's what y'all doing i think y'all like that song i think y'all looking at this as musician married to musician you don't look at it like that no i think entrepreneur married to exactly i think people don't people don't really know a lot of what nick cannon does that's right i would get us into phenomenal businessman and mariah carey's just an outward celebrity and big

on the outside so so was Nick though I really think that y'all are doing y'all only say the power dynamic cause Mariah Carey

made fantasy and Nick made Gigolo alright well that that is the rumor part do we have Gigolo on the system no we don't

no radio station in the country does why would you do what's the disrespect we can't find Gigolo no that's me and Nick Why would you do it? The disrespect. We can't find Gigolo? No. That's me and Nick. They're shaking their finger. No. I love Nick the person.

Drop on the clues bombs for Nick the human. Nick the artist forever be. I'm going to put Gigolo in the system. The next time we talk about it, we're going to play Gigolo. You really don't have it in the system? No. I do not like that for y'all. That is messed up. Sing one line. I'm a Gigolo. I do not like that for y'all. That is messed up. Sing one line.

I'm a jiggalo. No, no, it's R. Kelly's part. Sing the right part. Oh, I can't sing R. Kelly's part. Oh, sorry, y'all. You can sing Nick's part. What are you talking about? All right.

Y'all just be saying things on the radio for no reason. All right. It's the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club.

We got our special guest host, Lauren LaRosa here. And I just want to salute to one of our producers, Cheeks, a.k.a. Brandon. Big Ghana. Today is his birthday. Today, Big Ghana born day. He said we was going to do shots when he was at his job. I lied. I lied a little bit.

He said I lied a lot. Maybe later. Maybe a little later. Maybe when I get back. When I get back. Yeah, he's a young producer up here. He started off as an intern up here, right? Yes.

Started off as an intern up here. Some of y'all probably saw him at Nile's Past Dogs Live. That wasn't even me. That wasn't even me. That's crazy. That was definitely you. We heard you standing on couches and chairs,

but today is the young man's birthday. I heard somebody did that, yeah. That was you. I just want you standing on couches and chairs, but today is the young man's birthday. I heard somebody did that, yeah. That was you. I just want to wish the brother a happy birthday and just say, you know, we support you. We appreciate you, brother. I really appreciate you guys, too. Thank you, guys.

What you doing tonight? You got any plans? This weekend. Been against a little something. What's her name? What is it? Don't do that to my guy. Don't do that to my guy.

I was getting to the bottom of Casamigos, so that'll be put to use this weekend I'm so sorry I'm so sorry that happened to you what happened to you wow

the gifting of the Casamigos is way better to kill out there how old are you wow 28 that's gonna hurt you but won't you gift him something I didn't know today

was your birthday I'm open to gifts but if you we head over to the Lobos section over here and take some shots I can expose you you know we drink

Casa Dragones up here. Okay, well. And also, too, you know, Brandon is from Ghana, right? I was born in America, but yeah, my family is from Ghana. And you go to Ghana often? Yes. Do you abide by the rules of Ghana? I know where you're going with this. What are the rules of Ghana?

What are the rules of Ghana? Using sex toys, engaging in oral, anal sex is illegal in Ghana. Okay. I live here. And so you use sex toys, engaging in oral, anal sex is illegal in Ghana. Okay. I live here. So you use sex toys. So you do use sex toys. Okay.

Am I done? Am I done? Can I go now? Yes, you're finished. You can finish and you can go. Salute to Brandon out there. All right, when we come back, we got the positive notice at Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRosa is here, our special guest host. Yes. And it's time to get up out of here. Give them your Twitters and Instagrams so they can harass you on social media, Lauren. Jesus Christ.

Lauren LaRosa, L-O-R-E-N, L-O-R-O-S-A, and Brown Girl Grinding, all common spelling. Make sure you're following us. That's the group chat. And check out the. And Brown Girl Grinding. All common spelling. Make sure you're following us. That's the group chat. And check out the podcast, Brown Girl Grinding with Lauren LaRosa. It's a little bit more of me and things that y'all can argue with me about. And Lauren, don't be ducking the smoke.

I don't. I really don't. You gave me a good word yesterday, though, because I was going to lean in to some more of some smoke. They're supposed to comment. That's the whole point. Yes.

I love making people feel a way. Good or bad. But that's the whole point yes i love making people feel the way good or bad i mean but that's the point right like when you uh express yourself and you express your opinions and you know they're genuine and authentic opinions they're going to elicit genuine and authentic reactions from people and they some of them might be good some of them might not be good but guess what they're doing their job we're doing ours that's how you summarize the rage that you cause in people yes okay great well yeah y'all that's me all right well leave us on a positive note listen positive note is simply this man once you are locked in with yourself you realize a lot of stuff is not worth your time and energy at all breakfast club bitches you're finished or y'all done