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Jessica Robin more how How you doing?
What's up?
Good morning.
What's happening?
Nothing.
I'm chilling.
I'm home and I couldn't be all out like that because if I wake that little baby up then
I just like took 30 minutes to put back to sleep.
She just went to bed?
She teething so like she up and then she sleep.
She up and then she sleep.
How you giving her my headphones?
Well you wasn't here because you were stuck behind that garbage truck and Jess was talking
about her baby not being able to go to sleep.
Yo he is such an idiot.
She is sleep envy.
She's sleeping now.
But you know it's teething season so she be up and she sleep and she up and she sleep.
I understand.
I get it.
Look yo, did your grandmothers ever tell y'all right, cuz I'm trying to figure out
if I should do this tonight, put a little bit of cognac on a rag and then slide across
her gums.
What about that?
My grandmother never said that but I've heard that before.
But I don't know if you should do that.
Boy you know who was, I heard you talking about that yesterday with Lauren.
And she said maybe you should do that.
But you do know Lauren drinks every day so I don't know if that's a good way.
Every chance y'all get, y'all throw this girl under the bus and back it up on her. Damn, like why, why? You should do that, but you do know Lauren drinks every
Bus and back it up on a damn like why why I don't know if it was coming I said I don't know if it was cognac, but it was it was like some type of alcohol
I don't know. I thought it was room come yet crazy, but yes
Alcoholic beverage I heard
It's gonna be Sirak Deleon. You know what I'm coming at.
I heard the rum too, but I don't have no rum.
I just got Hennessy and VSOP and VSOP.
I ain't know what to do.
There's teething things. There's like teething things that you can get.
I wouldn't put no cognac on it. I mean I was
By the way,
that was back in the day.
You shouldn't even be having them conversations publicly.
They'll call diapers on you.
That's easy to explain.
St. Jess hilarious was giving her child alcohol like first thing in the morning some recipes we got to keep amongst each other
You know what I mean? Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I know me so yeah. All right. Well, let's get the show cracking
Drew Sedora will be joining us. You know her from the Real Housewives of Atlanta
Yes, she has a new album. I did it for me out right now
So we'll be kicking it with Drew Sedora and there's a lot to break down in front page news Trump said there's a bunch of people that's not
gonna be allowed in this country and I'm sure we'll break it down with Morgan
when we come back so don't go anywhere it's the Breakfast Club good morning
everybody is DJ NV Jess Hilarious Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast
Club let's get in some front page news start off with some quick sports the
paces take on OKC tonight game game one of the NBA finals, 830
p.m. Eastern Time on ABC.
So we'll see how that works out.
What up, Morgan?
Hey, y'all.
Hey, how you feeling?
Good.
Good morning.
I love to hear it.
OK, let's get into it.
First on front page, Elon Musk is still slamming President Trump's so-called one big beautiful
bill saying it needs to be killed. In a post on X, Musk said a spending bill should be drafted that doesn't massively grow the deficit
and increase the debt ceiling by five trillion dollars. In a later post, he urged Americans to
call their senators and congressmen saying, bankrupting America is not okay, kill the bill.
Now Musk has been critically, highly critically of the spending
bill in days since ending his work with Doge as a special government employee for the White
House on Tuesday. He called it a disgusting abomination. Meanwhile, the House Speaker
Mike Johnson says Elon Musk has ghosted his calls and him over President Trump's so-called
one big beautiful bill. And he calls Musk's recent comments very disappointing
as he continues to tout the bill.
Now, Speaker Johnson spoke to the media saying
he called Musk following his recent comments,
but Elon didn't answer.
And he went on to say that he spoke to President Trump,
who's not too delighted about Elon's current stance
on this big beautiful bill.
Let's take a listen to Speaker Johnson,
House Speaker Mike Johnson. Well, I'll tell you, I called Elon last night and he didn't answer. I don't know what happened in 24 hours. on this big beautiful bill let's take a listen to speaker johnson house speaker mike johnson
well today i called the line last night didn't answer i don't know what happened
twenty four so i think i can draw their own conclusions about that okay uh...
that but i look for to talk to my friend about it again and obviously we talked
about this he's because you know he's not dumb
he's not delighted that uh... you line that it one eighty on that
so must have since i posted bankrupt bankrupting America is not okay again
kill the bill and the Congressional Budget Office reports the legislation
would add a 2.4 trillion dollar to the nation's deficit over the next
decade and the bill can only afford to lose three GOP votes in the Senate
which is happening right now the Senate is taking up this bill as the session has begun.
Now elsewhere, Capitol Hill lawmakers
are coming together in opposition.
Hold on Morgan, I wanna say something, right?
Well, this criticism.
Yeah, this criticism from Elon is one of two things.
Either Elon said, look, I paid damn near $300 million
for this presidency.
So I have paid the cost.
I have paid the cost to be the boss literally
so I can criticize the president and this bill.
And if your job, you know, as the head of Doge
was to find waste in government
and then you see a bill that's wasteful,
you have to call it out.
Correct.
But this also could just be a way for Elon
to rehabilitate his image
and get his companies back on track.
So they're all in on it.
Hey, I'm gonna criticize this bill. I'm gonna criticize you. You know, you're leaving our administration
to get back to work. We know that your companies took a hit. So we're going to let you, you know,
criticize us to rehabilitate your image. I will believe all of this when Trump cancels one of Elon
Musk's government contracts with SpaceX. Because you know that's how he plays. That's how he plays.
Yeah, you're right.
You know that's how he plays.
That's true. That's how you play. Yeah, you're right. You know that's how he plays.
That's true. That's true.
If somebody around him is really criticizing him and he's going to punish him in some way,
I believe it when Trump cancels one of Elon Musk's contracts for SpaceX.
Elon is already filling it in with Tesla. So, you know, to your point, both points are good and valid.
Elsewhere, Capitol Hill lawmakers are coming together in opposition of a 10-year ban on AI regulations
Which is a part of also a part of Trump's so-called big beautiful bill now, Georgia Republican Congresswoman
Marjorie Taylor green y'all may know her as a bleach bomb built bad bills body
Yeah, she says it violates states rights and California Democrat Ted Lew
He tends to agree adding that banning states from putting guardrails on AI would cause unnecessary harm
Let's take a listen to California Democrat Ted Lew's comments.
I agree with Marjorie Taylor Greene once every hundred years. This is that time. I agree
that this 10-year provision is extreme. It's going to cause unnecessary harm. This is a
bad provision and I hope the Senate will take out this 10-year moratorium. Marjorie Taylor Greene pretty much said that, you know, that she doesn't agree with it
and, you know, people came for her saying you had one job just to read the bill.
But she basically said the same thing that, you know, there's no telling what can happen in 10 years with AI.
Ted Lieu, he wants the Senate to strip out the provision.
If it stays in there, Greene says she won't vote for it for when the bill comes back for
a vote and that could doom the whole package thanks to the slim margins in the House.
Again, they can only afford, the Senate Republicans can only afford three votes, no votes against
this bill.
Yeah, there has to be some type of regulations on AI over the next decade.
Yeah, absolutely.
We just like, you know, I'll be watching so many AI videos and I'd be just like, wow. I mean, at this point, it's hard to tell what's real and what's,
you know, what's AI. And there definitely needs to be some regulations on that for sure.
But Republican Senators Rand Paul and Mike Lee also back must criticism while Republican
Congresswoman as I mentioned, Marjorie Taylor Green expressed regret for voting yes on the
measure. Senate Republicans, as I mentioned before, can only afford three no votes to get the
measure passed.
They're looking at July 4th as a projected deadline to get that bill on Trump's desk.
So I'll keep you guys posted on this one big, beautiful bill and how it continues to move
through Congress.
Well, thank you, Morgan.
Thank you.
We'll see you next hour.
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Yeah, all right, I wanna give my wife, Dominique,
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Hey.
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and I just wanna tell her I love her.
That's beautiful, my brother.
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We're going out of town this weekend.
Where you going?
Charlotte.
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Love the 704.
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Something like that.
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She got a 20-year class reunion going on this weekend.
Her birthday was Tuesday, so you know,
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Peace.
Hello, who's this?
It's Steve from the Bronx.
Steve from the Bronx. What up? Get it off your chest, Steve.
Yeah, yeah. Y'all was talking about the big beautiful bill at Elon Musk.
Yes, sir.
Yeah, the reason he's opposing it is because it's killing the EV industry. In the bill it kills the tax rebate and also it's
gonna make people with an EV pay 250 a year just to drive EVs. So that's why he's
opposing the bill. Oh okay. Y'all gonna have Brian Tyler Cohen. Y'all ever heard of him? Yeah I heard of Brian Tyler Cohen.
Yeah yeah y'all gotta have him on the show. He just did a video yesterday explaining why Elon Musk was going in on the pill.
I think that's another good reason. I also think that he's trying to rehabilitate his image though just so he can get his companies back on track.
Yeah but if this whole thing is in me and he's taking shots at even me. Definitely he's gonna lose a bunch of money if they pass it though. That's right. But he already lost a bunch of money just being the head of Doge, you know,
and firing a bunch of people, like so, you know,
but there's a lot of people who already turned their back
on a lot of Elon's companies.
You see his stock prices dropping crazy.
Definitely, definitely.
All right, brother, have a good one.
I think they say Elon lost like $100 billion
being a part of Doge.
I can imagine, hello?
Yeah, go ahead, brother.
Okay.
Yeah, can y'all stop saying the N-word
so damn much on the morning?
Especially Jess Hilarious.
I'm gonna say the N-word one time.
She need a n***a bench.
You can't tell her not to say it,
and then you say it.
You say it.
She need a n***a bench.
But you said it again!
That's why, another one, another one.
But yes, sir, I am working on that.
Yes, sir, you are right.
I am, I apologize.
That's a damn lie.
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And they're saying that lines are around the corner, so don't think it's something weird.
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They still line up and get in line?
They still line up and get in line.
That's great.
Those are great things though.
Yeah, I tried to get one for Jackson.
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I'll get it on eBay for a little more money.
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Hello, who's this?
What's up, Jeff?
What's up, Shar?
Peace, peace, peace.
Jeff, I heard you doing the Lourdes camp the other day for Pride.
Wake up, this morning is Pride.
Be gay, this morning is Pride.
We don't want no kitty, kitty, cat, cat, kitty, kitty, cat, cat, kitty, kitty, cat, cat, out. Okay. What the hell does that mean? We don't want no kitty kitty cat cat kitty kitty cat cat kitty kitty cat cat out, okay?
We don't know kitty kitty cat cat it's a chain
That's all the gay guys be saying that sure tell me huh it's pride be gay be nice to you gay friends
Sorry, did you say happy pride to all your gay friends?
Sure, I don't have to I treat all my friends equally all the time. All my friends, regardless of what month it is.
But happy pride.
But listen, why y'all say kitty kitty cat
when y'all don't like kitty kitty cat?
They saying no kitty kitty cat.
I understand.
We don't want kitty kitty cat.
Oh, you said no kitty kitty cat.
No kitty kitty cat.
Oh, okay, okay.
I don't like that.
I don't think y'all have to be prejudiced
against the poom poom just because y'all don't like it.
I think that's why.
Wait, who was being prejudiced to poom poom?
That's very whack.
Like that sounds very anti-poom poom.
Just say y'all like boogie.
Say boogie boogie bonk bonk, boogie boogie bonk bonk.
Say something like that.
But I do like boogie boogie bonk bonk, that's a thing.
That's what I'm saying.
I like boogie boogie.
Say that, you ain't gotta disrespect the poom poom.
I don't like that.
Kitty cat, kitty cat, kitty cat, kitty cat, kitty cat, how?
Boogie boogie bonk bonk is crazy, yo.
I'd rather hear that.
I don't wanna hear y'all say no kitty kitty cat cat.
That's wack to me.
Why y'all dissing the poom poom?
Just cause y'all don't like it. I don't think we're dissing it, we're just saying that we don't hear that. I don't hear y'all say no kitty kitty cat cat. That's whack to me. Like why y'all dissing the Poon Poon? Just cause y'all don't like it.
I don't think we're dissing it.
We're just saying that we don't want any vagina
because we would rather have, you know.
If I said that, if I said no gay gay gay gay gay gay gay gay
y'all be mad as hell.
No no no, you wouldn't say that.
You would say no butt, no butt, no butt.
And y'all would be mad.
Y'all would call me homophobic and all that stuff.
I wouldn't be mad.
You don't want no butt.
Who gonna be mad if you don't want no butt Charlamagne?
Don't be Poon Poon phobic, bro. Nobody mad you don't know but how do we get a happy pride to everybody
I like that no disrespect to poon poon kidding. Okay?
Get it off your chest eight hundred five eight five one oh five one what up Lauren good morning today
Hey, I'm still figuring that out.
Okay.
If I'm going today.
It's not a true if you over it, it's okay.
Don't go.
I'm not over it, I'm just picking and choosing
because there's a lot that goes down.
It's a lot of Diddy fatigue.
This week has been kind of whack.
You know, last, well, you know,
once you go from the Cassies and the Kid Cuddies,
you know what I mean?
The bigger,
It's still interesting, they said the knife fight yesterday.
The bigger, I mean, but all these stories we've heard.
It's just, I mean.
I've never heard Cassie and Diddy in a night fight?
Yes, and then he hung the, allegedly,
and then he hung the best friend on the balcony
or the friend on the balcony.
Yesterday, the girl who testified
was the friend on the balcony.
Damn.
So these are stories we heard,
but now they're bringing the people in themselves
to speak to it.
So that's, I mean, yeah.
It feels like it's, well, at least to me, just watching,
it feels like it's been a weak week for the prosecution,
but I don't see the defense
doing anything strong either.
I think because, I mean, the defense, they do,
they cross, they do what they do, but after this,
they're waiting to present their case.
The government has already said that they're gonna
rest their case early, so I think if I'm the defense
right now, I'm just ramping up my case,
and already outlets have begun to talk more about
who the defense will bring on as witnesses
versus a little bit less about what's happening besides like basic recaps.
Yeah, but like Charlotte said, you don't want to be fatigued because you're a juror out
there and you might get to the point where you just tired of hearing the same old stuff
over and over and over again.
I don't know why this is my first time going actually into the court, even though I've
like reported on other cases, but I think it's just a thing of they want to any because
sometimes the bigger witnesses will mention these stories but they don't
fill in small context details yeah and then the actual person themselves comes
in and fills in things like you know that we maybe didn't know or like little
small details so I they just want to make sure again is they have no there's
no doubt whatsoever when you're a juror. What you got in the latest? Yeah in the
latest we are going to be talking about, unfortunately, we're going to be talking about DDG
and Halle Bailey again, because DDG is asking a judge
to stop her from taking their son out of the country
because he's saying she's emotionally unstable,
suicidal, and a danger to their son's safety, allegedly.
Did you see the stuff, you going to talk about
the text messages or whatever, right?
Yes, yeah, we got the docs.
It took me a little minute to get to them,
but I got the docs, so we have the text messages and a bunch of different things that DDG has put into his filing to try and you know, prove what he's claiming, but also to look so crazy.
Like, yeah, we'll get to that next. Don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody is DJ envy Jess, hilarious Charlamagneagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club.
Let's get to the latest with Lauren.
Lauren becoming a straight face.
She gets into somebody that knows somebody.
She gets the details.
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
She be having the latest on you.
The latest with Lauren LaRosa.
Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit of
everything.
Well it's the latest.
On the Breakfast Club.
Talk to me.
Okay so we're gonna go ahead and get to the latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit of
everything.
Well, it's the latest.
On The Breakfast Club.
Talk to me.
Okay, so DDG is asking a judge to stop Hailey Bailey from taking their son, Halo, out of
the country for work because he says she's emotionally unstable, suicidal, and is a danger
to their son's safety and to others safety. So DDG submitted these docs in response to some things that
In response her request to go out of the country in in response to some of the things that she had filed previously
He says that there are several instances that show all these things that span over several years
so there's a bunch of text messages that he included in this doc like a ton of photos of
messages that he included in this doc, like a ton of photos of alleged bruises he received from their physical altercations, and different conversations that they had.
But of the most alarming that he alleges in the doc, he says that on March 21st, 2024,
Haley sent a ton of text messages to him.
She was threatening allegedly, she was allegedly threatening to kill herself and suggesting that their son might be harmed as well. He says during this time, she was actually
driving a car and he alleges that he was so scared for her safety because she had done or alleged and
said she would do things like this to herself before that he actually called her godmother
because he was worried that their child would be in danger and that she was in danger because of
this emotional state that she was in while driving. There's also an incident that he talks about. August 2023,
they got into an argument of some sort. And after the argument, he alleges that Haley
took his legal gun and left their home and he got scared again for her safety. And he
called his mom and his mother's fiance, because he couldn't find her. So he says that his mom came, found her, they found her outside of the home, allegedly still
holding the gun and she was emotionally unwell and incoherent and potentially suicidal then.
And then there is an additional time, March 22nd, that he alleges in Atlanta, he says
that this was the first time that Haley threatened to harm herself with a knife. She was texting and calling
him repeatedly. And I do have some of the screenshots from the document. So in one text,
she's texting him and she's you know, if the if this is her these alleged checks, she's
saying it's all his fault. She's saying you know, cry about it later. And this is after
she would have threatened to harm herself and not live anymore.
And that's a repeated cycle in these texts that he's included and he's responding and
saying why do you want me to sit on the phone and listen to you yelling me all day you do
this to me every day and she says I beg for your help you know I don't have anyone I'm
actively suicidal and struggling you know I've been running to the doctor every day for help
and you still play in my face.
I won't make it to my birthday because of you.
So this is just an example of some of the type of texts I can't hear myself some of
the type of texts that were included in this document.
Now Haley has responded.
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Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge
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He texted, I've ruined our lives.
You're going to want to divorce me.
Caroline's husband was living another life
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He betrayed his oath to his family and to his community.
She said you left bruises, pulled her hair,
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You're unable to keep track of all your lies,
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Police really didn't care to even try.
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She responded.
Halle.
Halle, sorry.
I can't hear.
Halle.
No, I feel you.
My headphones not up? Yeah, my headphones are. Shalime was having the same problem this morning. It's here. I can't hear. Halle. No I can't hear you.
My headphones not up?
Yeah my headphones are.
Show them they was having the same problem this morning.
It's here.
First of all it was up.
It was the thing.
It wasn't only in.
I'm sorry Jess what were you saying Halle?
No it's okay.
It's okay.
Halle yes.
So Halle and my grandmother's my great-grandmother's name Halle.
Okay so Halle has responded and in her response she basically is saying that it's ironic that
he's just now waiting to respond.
She's saying that she should be granted permission because she has to go and work. She has to make money for her child
and she also did directly address the mental health things and she says that she alleges
that DDG is exaggerating lying and misconstruing facts for the court not only to make their
history of their relationship look crazy, but to make her parenting and her mental health look away
as well.
She says, there's no doubt that I was emotionally devastated in 2022 and in 2023 by his behavior
and ongoing abuse that she alleges.
I have been very vocal about my anxiety, depression and previous thoughts of suicide without waiving
the rights of her therapist and her privilege.
She says she has reached out to her doctors to receive treatment and to address these issues. And she also says that if given a
chance like if a judge takes this to court, she'll take the stand and talk about all these
things. And she has nothing to hide, but it's unfair that he's right now requesting to for
her to not be able to take the child out of the country. And the reason why he's saying
that he doesn't want the child to go out of the country is number one, of course, you
know, all the mental health stuff that he's alleging is harmful but he's also saying that if the if baby
halo goes out of the country and you know god forbid something were to happen like she goes into
a mental state allegedly or she's threatening to harm the baby they're out of the court's
jurisdiction so there's nothing that he can do to intervene and it could take weeks days or whatever
before he could. So imagine struggling with all those issues and Jess you can speak to this. I mean postpartum depression is real as well. Absolutely it is.
You don't know like you don't know what your days are gonna be like. You wake up
you're sad, you're constantly sad and all you want is a break from the baby and
thank God that I did have breaks but like it seems like even in those messages
you know what I mean? Like she's asking him, begging him practically like like
yo I'm I need you I need you to help me you know what I mean? Like she's asking him begging him practically like like yo, I'm I need you
I need you to help me. You know what I mean?
All you got it all you can do is be there for somebody with post postpartum depression
Yeah as a man and envy
You know as a man and father for the most important thing you can do after your lady has a baby is help
You got to help with childcare
You got to help with errands meal prep and if you got to go get professional help go do that, too
You just got to create an environment of support.
Yeah, but that's what I think that he's saying,
and he's saying if this happens while she's overseas taping,
who's there to help or who's there to help with the kids?
Oh, she has that though.
Yeah, but that's what he's saying.
Yeah, and he's saying he, like, on the-
But then the messages, the messages reflect
that she said, you know I have nobody. Right. You know what I'm saying? So it's said, you know, I have nobody.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like, you know, it's and then and then Lauren, let me ask you this.
Did he post these or are you able to find these?
Is this public record?
So I actually was not able to find it publicly on the Pacer outlet that I go on.
I had to I had to do other things to be able to get my hands on the docks so I'm not for sure TMZ broke the story exclusively I'm not and I don't know
because I don't work there anymore so I don't know how these outlets because the
text messages were in the actual doc so you know and also to he did go he did get
on a stream after and he said in the beginning of stream like we're gonna
have positivity here we're gonna like he he wasn't really directly trying to speak to it
But I mean when you include stuff like this in documents rather
It's I can't answer the question 100% if it's publicly available or not wasn't available to me, but it's here
So any outlet can grab it and I was circulating and I really hate that
I hate the fact that a couple can go through something and they have these documents and these text messages that are private
But they're doing it
for their own situation, their own custody battle,
but anybody can grab them and now people can put them out
and use them against them.
I hate that so much.
That is between those two couples.
That's just stayed between those two couples.
It ain't nobody's business.
He shouldn't have to feel embarrassed.
He shouldn't have to feel embarrassed.
They are working it out as a couple that's separated.
Especially if you're trying to heal privately. You gotta heal privately but live out loud publicly.
I wouldn't wish that on nobody. I hate the fact that people can get them docs.
This could send Halle right back into depression. You know what I mean? To have to be embarrassed
about this is crazy. I mean, he can be embarrassed about it, but she can be very embarrassed about
it. It's something she experienced.
There's a court case. Yeah, he should be able to discuss the court case and things, intimate things in their court case,
but it should never hit the part. I hate the fact that it hits the public knowledge like that.
Yeah, well, just keep in mind folks, there's a lot of emotional and mental responsibility that comes with having them babies.
Okay, so think about that when you popping that boom boom for a goon okay you know when you got that penis out of raw unprotected sticking it in put it in them shot up in them
deadly venom popping a pom pom for a goon i never heard that one okay i like that one i'm like that's
a bar all right i'm about to pop it for a goon. All right. You better stop.
You find out you're Chris a goon, you might get deported.
You know how they do.
You know how they do.
Wow.
All right.
That is the latest with Lauren.
Now, when we come back, we got front page news.
And then from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, Drew Sidora will be joining us.
So don't go anywhere.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
You're checking out The Breakfast Club.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Negao, we are the Breakfast Club.
Let's get in some front page news.
So quick sports tonight, the Pacers take on OKC, game one of the NBA finals at 8.30pm
Eastern Time.
I say OKC in 5.
Charlo, you got a prediction?
No, but I think OKC gonna win the series.
Yeah. I mean you know I don't like this I don't I can't sleep on a team like
Indiana. You know I don't know I would say OKC in six maybe five but I just
know they're going to win the series. I don't know what it's gonna be. All right.
What up Morgan? All right y'all let's get back into it so President Trump has
signed a proclamation banning travel to and from 12 countries, citing security risk. Now, multiple reports say the proclamation fully restricts and limits the entry of nationals from 12 countries. The president elaborated on the ban from the Oval Office yesterday. Let's take a listen to his comments.
Boulder, Colorado has underscored the extreme dangers posed to our country by the entry of foreign nationals who are not properly vetted, as well as those who come here as temporary visitors
and overstay their visas. We don't want them. So the president went on to blame. We don't want
them. The president went on to blame former president Biden citing open border policies for
various attacks that have occurred over the course of time.
Now when it comes to the travel ban, the list includes Haiti, Iran, Somalia, Sudan and others.
People from seven countries will have partial restrictions, including Cuba and Venezuela.
Now Trump reportedly was back and forth on the decision, but it also comes as Sunday's
anti-Semitic attack in Boulder, Colorado put some things
in quicker motion.
In other news, Secretary of Education Linda McMahon testified before the House Committee
on Education and Labor about her agency's budget and priorities when she revealed that
she wasn't too informed about the Tulsa Race Massacre or who Ruby Bridges was.
Let's take a listen to her exchange between Pennsylvania Representative Summer
Lee and the Secretary of Education. Education, let me repeat, Linda McMahon. Let's take a
listen.
Do you know what the Tulsa Race Massacre is?
I'd like to look into it more and get back to you on it.
Okay, so I look forward to that. How about the book Through My Eyes by Ruby Bridges,
for instance?
I haven't read that.
Have you learned about Ruby Bridges? If you have
specific examples you like, I'll be very happy. It was an incredibly specific
example. I'll name your questions and I will look into it and get back to you.
So earlier this week you had the head of FEMA who didn't know that America had a
hurricane season. Now you got the Secretary of Education who don't seem to have an
education. Man okay so Representative Lee definitely slammed the Trump administration's anti-DEI agenda and
compared it to the Jim Crow era.
For those who don't know, Ruby Bridges is a prominent figure in the civil rights movement
known mostly for being the first African American child to desegregate schools.
And the Tulsa Race Massacre, also known as the Tulsa Race Riot, was a horrific act of racial violence that occurred in Tulsa, Oklahoma between May 31st and June 1st, 1921, where
white mobs attacked residents, homes, and businesses.
I'm talking about thriving businesses in the predominantly black Greenwood neighborhood,
also known as Black Wall Street.
Yeah, they was hating.
And in my last story, one of former President Biden's press secretary is she's revealing
that she has ditched the Democratic Party and is now independent.
Kareem Jean-Pierre made the revelation with her new book, Independent, A Look Inside a
Broken White House Outside the Party Lines.
That book is set to be released this fall.
Jean-Pierre described her book about the time in,
about her time in Biden's White House.
Let's take a listen.
This book, Independent, it's about looking outside of boxes,
not just always being in a partisan stance.
And how do we move forward together in a compassionate way?
I think we need to stop thinking in boxes and think outside of our boxes and not be
so partisan.
So the publisher says Jean Pierre will take readers through the three weeks that led to
Biden's abandoning his bid for a second term and the betrayal by the Democratic Party that
led to his decision.
Now, Jean Pierre, of course, served as White House press secretary under the Biden administration from May 2022 until the end of his presidency in January.
Independent will hit shelves on October 21st. Any thoughts on Jean-Pierre switching parties?
Let's discuss. Well, she didn't switch parties. She's independent now, right? So I respect her
being independent because I feel like if you black in this country, you shouldn't be loyal to any party.
You should only be voting your interests.
You should only be voting for politicians who are implementing legislation and policies
for your communities and your people.
And if you ask me, none of these parties have done enough for us to be screaming, we Republican
are Democrats.
So independent is the way to go.
But when it comes to her in particular, I'm probably going to read the book when nobody
wants to hear from anyone who got up there
and lied for the Biden administration.
It's like a lot of these folks
are having to come to Jesus moment way too late.
They should have been talking like this
two or three years ago.
And she had a very interesting quote in her press release.
The quote was,
we need to be willing to exercise the ability
to think creatively and plan strategically.
We need to be clear-eyed and questioning
rather than blindly loyal
and obedient as we may have been in the past. And that right there is the problem with Democrat
supporters, especially black ones. Just blindly loyal and obedient for no damn reason.
I got a follow-up question regarding that quote. Do you think that that is, that she's,
in terms of her loyalty, do you think that she's saying that she's being loyal to Biden
as the president or loyal to the office as being a, you know,
press secretary for the White House?
Is there a difference in being loyal to the White House
and office or being loyal to President Biden?
You can't you can't be loyal to either when being loyal to them
would be a detriment to your country.
And based off the condition that
President Joe Biden was in, and she was somebody that was around him all the time, I feel like it
was their duty to tell the American people what was going on. And they didn't, even though we all
had eyes and we all had ears and we saw it for ourselves, but they were the ones that were up
close and personal with him all the time. And they all were in on the conspiracy to hide his physical
and mental condition from America and that's why they lost the election.
Well, one of the many reasons why they lost the election.
Clock it brother.
Tell them why you mad.
All right y'all.
So that's your front page news.
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Y'all have a great day.
Thank you.
You too.
Now, when we come back, Drew Sedora will be joining us.
You know her from the cast of The Real Housewives of Atlanta.
And we'll kick it with her next.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
The Breakfast Club.
The Breakfast Club. I'm good, I'm good. I actually have been in New York for a couple days. So the city's been showing me love. I'm not tired, I'm awake.
I'm here with y'all.
How's your energy?
My energy is better.
I've been going through a lot.
But I feel like where y'all have seen me
for the past what, two years,
I'm definitely in a more healed place.
When did you get to that place?
Honestly, working on my album was like my therapy. So I think that
just being able to get all of those emotions out and just do something productive and then
put it all on paper and leave it there. That was a big part of, you know, my hitland journey.
For people that don't know what you're talking about, because a lot of people might not watch
the Housewives of Atlanta. Yeah, she was on Housewives of Atlanta and you recently got a divorce, a separation.
It's not official yet. A separation. I'm still going through the process.
Which is a weird separation because he lives in a basement and you live upstairs and you're
not allowed downstairs. And he's been there for some time.
And he's not allowed to come upstairs unless I grant him access. It's just like I've never
heard of this. Like I don't know anybody else that I can say, girl, how did you deal with this?
I've never heard of this and I did not know that would ever be something the judge would rule on
So it makes it extra complicated. It's already hard enough divorce is already tough enough
But you know to run into each other in the driveway or you know what I mean?
Like it's a lot is you have no idea
Well, how did it even come to that point that who said that this how it should be like how cuz that we I've never heard
Of that did he say I want to live
and I want to remain in the house and like how did that happen he was basically like I'm not
leaving like his attorneys were like yeah he's not going to leave the premises and so have you seen
that movie war of ways of world of roses thank you yeah right it's like that in real life you
know where it's it's the asset in the marriage and so what I've been learning through this process
like you know it's love and it's
like pure bliss and we built this beautiful family and we're building legacy.
And then all of a sudden we're going through a divorce and now it's all business.
It's like, you know, a negotiation of so the asset being the house, it's a big deal, you
know?
And so I would love to just split everything like 50-50, keep it simple, we can be done.
But he's like, I he's like I want everything
I want the house. I want 40% of your business that I've had since 2005 my company
You know and he's coming for that and it's just how did y'all get there?
So what started this separation people assume it was cheating people assumed there was so many different things. How did I get there?
Let's go, girl. I watched the show with the white men. I like when you get in your bag.
I like when you get in your real house wine bag.
I like when you get in your real house wine bag, daddy.
When you be scrambling and scribbling
in your real house wine bag.
I like that, daddy.
House wine, okay.
Yes.
All right, I'm sorry, guys.
Okay, so you know everything.
So then you watched it.
Explain to people, so what happened?
Right, so, yeah, a lot.
So we lived in Chicago.
I'm from Chicago, originally.
Born and raised.
And we lived there
for some time. And it was a lot of women. You know, it was a lot of women. You know,
the whole finding things in your phone or... I got family. Like, it's family. Everybody
knows we live here. People seeing you out, sir, at dinner with women. So it was a lot
of that.
So you went in his phone?
I did at one point, honestly.
Why you going to nose it?
Excuse me? Why can't you let him and his women beat?
Wow.
At first I thought it was because he just don't watch the show then I'm like oh no he trying to
get her. He be in the ground. Aren't you from South Carolina? Yes ma'am. That might be cousins.
Really?
I think so.
Oh he's from...
I think he's from...
QG?
Oh yeah, QG.
Yeah, QG right by Moscona.
Oh, you know he got a lot of cousins.
You remember Cousin Courtney on the show?
Oh yeah, he don't know Cousin Courtney.
Oh you just see, I don't.
So wait, so that was in Chicago you found her, but then y'all moved to Atlanta and you
forgave him?
Yes, I did.
You know, because let me tell you, so my parents were married for 60 years until my dad passed
away.
So I grew up in a household, you know, where I saw people choose each other every day,
fight, make up, you know, that was just what I saw.
So that's what I wanted for myself.
So when I got married, it was like, this is what we go through.
We're going to talk about it, communicate and move forward.
So yes, I got married, it was like, this is what we go through. We're going to talk about it, communicate, and move forward. So, yes, I did forgive him.
We moved to Atlanta and he left and went to Tampa for three days.
Everyone saw that on national TV.
But it was embarrassing, you know what I mean?
Like you leave your family and you don't tell us where you went.
And it was more so because it was public, you know, and humiliation and embarrassment.
And I think that was tough.
That was a last straw? that was it for you?
I mean, it was that, and it was just the continuous,
you know, continuous behavior of like dealing
with other women and then coming on the show
and then there was women saying, oh, they were pregnant.
It was a particular woman who reached out
and said she was pregnant with his baby.
And that was a big thing.
That was probably one of the biggest straws.
And then it was the disrespect of my mom, you know, of my family, the disrespect of
my son Jojo, my 14-year-old.
So it was just very layered.
And finally he moved out of the bedroom.
So we separated and we were separated at the time.
So it was a huge separation.
We were trying to repair things, but ultimately it just wasn't able to be repaired
I thought you cheated at one time. Well, that's that's what he says
You know, it was almost like oh she's hanging out and having fun
Oh, this is my moment, you know
And now it flipped to like a victim mentality when that really wasn't what it was and it's pride most of it
That was a girl. Oh
Well, they thought that before this month
Yeah, but I heard you talk about it on Carlos King
Yeah, and that was my first time actually hearing you explain it the way you did
So they he had alleged that you were dating a woman at the time and that's you were cheating with and you say at the time
You were going through so much with him that you would have taken attention from a cardboard box
Please talk about that cheating if it's eating
What is the matter with you, girl? Lord! Just the comic relief of the situation that you need. I mean, you know, I wouldn't
say there was eating. You know, we were hanging out. That's still my girl to this day. Like,
we're still friends. But I think it was extra sauce placed on it.
I will say, okay, flirting, yeah.
I'll be honest about that.
A little nibble?
A little nibble on some food.
We went to dinner.
We was eating at the dinner table.
But all of the extra stuff,
I mean, you have to really watch the show
and know who Ralph is.
He is very much a narcissist and that's who I married.
That's who I chose to love. but at the end of the day,
what happened happened.
People have actually witnessed it, the disrespect.
So to say, okay, I'm hanging with this woman
and now it's a relationship, that just came out of nowhere.
There was never any evidence.
Where's the receipt?
Like, you know, people can say things.
Does it make it true?
People say things about you, you know?
Is everything true?
Not everything.
Not everything.
Not true about it.
Well, listen, how do you balance healing in private
when your pain is being monetized on reality TV?
Honestly, you know, that time that we did not come right back
on the show, I was actually grateful because that was a time
I took just to self.
Like I spent my time alone, you know,
I just completely shut down and I did a lot of praying
and like I said, honestly, people may not have understood why I said Dennis was my angel
on earth.
But really it was, I was very grateful because it was a blessing at that time to have somewhere
to go.
A lot of times like I didn't want to wake up and get out the bed.
It's like, you just don't feel productive.
Like overwhelmed, depression is real.
So it was just knowing that I have people supporting me,
believing in me, and are rooting for me,
and I had to show up for that.
And when I got to the studio, it's like, okay, shh,
I made it, you know?
And then being able to compile all this body of work
and have a productive outlet, like I said,
it was exactly what I needed to get me to the other side,
where I am now.
We're still kicking it with Drew Sedora.
You know her from the cast of The Real Housewives of Atlanta.
Lauren.
Looking back, because your project is here, the music is here, but looking back on it,
you brought up the Dennis Angel on Earth comment and that, the people had conversations about
that for a while.
Oh, I know.
It was crazy.
You look grimy.
I'm not gonna lie.
You look shady when it first came out.
Because it came out that you were working with Portia's.
Portia's Dennis?
Yes!
Whatever Dennis is out here.
Yes, Portia's Dennis.
I mean, I love him.
This is the shock for me.
It's the utter shock.
Remember we had the conversation with Portia about this whole thing?
I get it now, I remember.
And it was assumed that you did it behind Portia's back without having, without talking
to Portia.
But that wasn't true.
That didn't happen like that. See, there we go. See, we got to talk about it.
This is not how it happened. So, actually, you know, this is during the time Porsche was living her African princess life.
She was in Nicaragua, she was in Nigeria. She wasn't checking for her girls. You know, I was calling her.
So on the record, I called Porsche a bunch of times.
To tell her that you were going to work with Dennis.
Yes, like why wouldn't I? Dennis had been reaching out for years like come be an ambassador
for NYA, let's you know. It was like no, no, no. But because of what I was going through,
this is my selfish season, okay? And the music was good because I was like, Dennis, hot dogs?
Music? Like I was confused like everybody else, right? I was. But when he sent my team
the music, it was like, this is really good. Like I need to do this else right um I was but when he sent my team the music It was like this is really good like I need to do this music
That's how it felt for me so when I was calling her and I was texting her I have the receipts
Show him every union. I was like girl. I need to talk to you like it's really really important bunch of tech
She won't respond into your girl like at all crickets
So when she did come back and we did talk,
we were in the studio, Dennis would be talking to her and she's like, send me some songs.
She's like, Oh, this is my favorite song. This is my favorite song. So I'm like, okay,
Portia, you told me he had a conversation. So she's cool. We talked two weeks before
we started filming and she was like, yes, girl, I know we're going through our divorces.
We need to get together. I love the music. I was like, okay, because you know, I wanted
to make sure like we're all family.
It's all, yes girl, I know, like it's all good.
Let's hang out.
A week before we filmed,
oh sorry, I didn't come to your birthday party, girl.
But let's turn up tonight, you, me, and Yandy.
Let's go out for drinks.
That was the energy.
So we go to Shemeah's birthday party.
That's why I was so, I ever gassed it.
I was, I had nothing to say.
You said it was a different story.
It was like a light switch.
Like what?
But if you notice when we were at Shemeah's party it was like I'm mad at you because you're
working with Dennis then it switched to well you're filming with Dennis and then it was
like a go-naked thing.
So I was not clear on why she was upset and what the real beef was but as you've seen
the season I just see you know the fans are smart like shout out to the fans because they're
seeing like no you know we kind of catching her up in some lies here
That's not actually how it happened and it's seeming more like deflection because you can't talk about a certain person
So she chose to talk about me, you know, but she couldn't and she said that she couldn't talk about it
She did it for the cameras
The you need story, but I mean you need to have things going on in your personal life
Like why is everything about what I got going on?
It's hard to watch sometimes because you don't know if it's real shade if it's real smoke or if it's just a story line
No, everything I do is real. I came on the show in an achilles rupture boot. Like I came on the show limping
Like that's not how I want to come on
I want to come in with my like little batons, you know and be fabulous and be and I wanted to show black love
And marriage and all the beauty and all that.
I didn't want to show this.
So everything that I've shown has just been my real life.
I've not ever produced anything or tried to give storyline because like I've been working
since I was eight years old.
I don't need to put on for cameras.
That's not me.
Some people may like that's what some people may do.
And I feel like in this situation, instead of Portia opening up about her real feelings
without talking about that particular person,
she didn't need to deflect it and make me her punching bag.
I think that was probably the most hurtful part
because I'm going through a lot too.
Did you have a real conversation?
Because it made you look crazy to the public at first.
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When she got on there and says,
you're supposed to be my friend, but you're working with my ex and I had no idea, did y'all have a conversation after that? Um, we did we had to sit down it didn't go very well
Which one are you talking about? Because the Nata know that well to sit down when she walked out drinking tea
Yes, it escalated. Yeah, so it wasn't really like true resolve. But yeah, no, it's it's like portion is not the person as you have seen
That will communicate, you know, she's gonna get up and walk away
She's going to up and walk away,
she's going to cover with all of this happiness,
she got it, and that's not real.
I think everyone was anticipating her
to come back this season and was excited,
but ultimately she couldn't deliver
on the story that we thought we were getting.
We thought we were getting Miss Gwadia,
and she couldn't bring that.
So you don't think Portia's been delivering this season
to what you're saying?
I mean, that's just what I feel.
That's my personal opinion,
is that this wasn't a real beef.
So then what are we talking about?
Let's talk about something real.
You get two women together who are strong,
who are bosses in their own right, have a conversation.
We're not gonna agree on everything,
but we don't need to make this the whole thing
we're talking about for the whole season.
Me and Dennis?
Yeah. The whole season?
What y'all talking about that?
That's why I hate reality TV.
What y'all tired of hearing about that?
That's why in a lot of ways I hate reality TV because they will monetize your trauma
for pain.
Like what you might be going through with your divorce or what Portia might be going
through is just like, damn, and then if they can't get that, they just want to pitch all
against each other?
I don't like it.
What's the point of doing it?
That's how I feel.
Like we're both going through a divorce.
We could be talking about that, you know what I mean?
Everything doesn't have to be like a moment.
And I think, you know, you see some girls
that come on the show and it's just like,
I need a moment, let me just say something
to go viral or whatever.
And it's like, no, just be yourself.
And I think that's also how I've been able
to be on now for four seasons.
And that's just what I've learned
because it's been a lot of cast shakeups.
Like I don't even know how I'm still here
because it's been people that are,
that were here, been here for a long time
And are no longer here
But what I've learned from the OGs that have poured into me is just be yourself, you know, and the story will tell itself
So I just want another question. So, you know what? How go naked hairline I literally was about to ask so that's not go naked here
This right now. Yes. No, this looks good
the hair that I'm wearing in the sit down where you saw the bangs, that's
I wore it in real time because when you put it through a one two edit, how I made it look,
it looked great. But in person, y'all saw it right? That was go-naked there.
So are you an ambassador for go-naked?
Big shit.
No, no, no. No, I have a great vendor. She's melted. We're good.
So you don't like go-naked hair, is what you're saying?
I mean, it just didn't work for me per se. When you go to bleach blonde it, it
just, it did something that wasn't right. Would you have said that prior to all
this Dennis stuff? Because I thought you were so, it was a good partnership. It
was. And in the beginning of the season you said you thought you were doing numbers for
Go Naked. I did do numbers. I did do numbers. That's why. Well I I just believe like as black women, we support each
other, right? If you're my girl, I'm going to support you. We have a great work relationship.
It was fun. You know, it was fun to work with her at that time. And if that's your friend,
you're going to hold your friend down. But it was just when all of this started to happen.
It just became corny to me, you know, so I'm like, okay, well now since we're going to
you're going to drag me, I'm going to speak my truth then. Because the truth is, like, I had your back,
but if you don't have my back, now it's fair game.
No, you were saying, all right,
let me be honest about this hair.
Yeah, I'll be honest.
Now, we, okay.
I would rather go naked than to wear that hair again.
You think the show would still be interesting
if you and Portia weren't beefing,
or like tension just part of the paycheck?
I mean, I came on the show, let me make it clear,
because I've been an actress since I was literally like in grade school, right?
So I made a decision because I was like, you know what people know me from this role
They may not like me from this role or that role or that movie or whatever
I felt going through COVID
it was just an opportunity to be more vulnerable and let the fans really get to know me and
See me as a mother and a wife and a friend and a sister. Like I'm so many other things and I wanted to show that.
And so that was the reason for me joining the show.
It wasn't to do anything but just hopefully inspire other people going through what I'm
dealing with and connecting that way.
So it wasn't to show what is happening.
Like that was opposite of what I wanted to represent on this platform.
So I've never subscribed to let's do this for a moment, you know, let's do this for
storyline. I actually feel like when we used to watch Housewives and when it was nostalgic
was because it was a group of women who were really friends. And when you saw them fall
out, it was because I'm fighting you because I love you and I know you can be better. You
can do so much more. So that was where the beefs came and then they were able to resolve and move forward.
And I feel like here sometimes they just want to like kill you off, you know? They want to just
like go below the belt. It's like, dang, like do you like me or not? Like what are we building or
not? And so that's what I would like to see the show get back to. And I think this season,
overall it was refreshing. It wasn't dark, you know, as some of the fans have said,
like they felt like the show was going dark.
So I think we're moving towards a more positive place.
We're still kicking it with Drew Sidora from the Real Housewives of Atlanta.
Jess.
So you don't see a resolve for you and this girl at all.
You want Portia.
You don't see it at all.
Because you said you want to see the show get back to, you know, what that was, what
it used to be.
Women were able to have their arguments.
Yeah.
Go through it, talk it out, and then they're cool.
You know what I mean?
You don't ever see you and Portia like, you know what?
Let's just put all this behind us because it did get crazy.
It did.
But all right, we're women.
We both bosses.
We like, you know, see that?
In certain cases, it's hard to come back from certain things.
And just putting out falsities is like damaging to my character, to me as a person.
You know, I have kids, so I just feel like the line has been crossed one too many times.
However, I feel like, you know, if there's an opportunity to have a real conversation
and it may not happen on camera, I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean it off camera.
I'm really big on like resolution.
I'm really big on gaining understanding and like moving forward.
So if it is an opportunity that presents itself, I would be open to that.
But it hasn't happened, and it's a year now, you know?
I want to ask some questions about Juju.
You've been in this game since you were a kid.
How do you think Hollywood's perception of you has changed?
And how has your own perception of yourself changed?
Oh good. Well, I feel like on the side of the theatrical TV and film,
I'm proud of what I've been able to accomplish.
In my career sometimes I don't reflect enough.
I've been able to work with some amazing actors and some amazing projects and tell
some amazing stories. But the game is like that's one project that I just feel like the
public perceives me in that way. And I can't shake it. And it's like, what decade? Yeah.
I mean, I still see the comments to this day, which is saying, OK,
this was obviously something really big and a part of the culture.
But I did see a hashtag where it was like hashtag cancel the juice or hate.
And I just want to say, can we do that, please?
Like, at the end of the day, this has gone on too long.
Derwin lied to Drew Sidora.
Like, do we not all watch the same show?
You feel like they carry from there?
Oh, most definitely. Like, I see the comments, I'm like, wow!
And I've met people that's like, ooh, I'm mad at you
because you broke up med school. And I'm like, you know Tia was married, right?
That's so real.
You know, pooch, like, as a whole family.
But people were very invested in the show, and I just think that's a perception
people have of me, you know, despite all the various roles I played,
which is why I did join the show to try to change that narrative.
And I think for myself, yes, my perception of self is I have so many things I want to do.
I want to do Broadway. I want to direct. I'll produce my first film
and continue to open the door for other young talent coming up.
And so that's where I'm moving into of my contribution stage in life and wanting to really see others win
as well in this business.
I think the thing with the game was right, everybody else had fictional names but you
really went on there as Drew Sedora.
Like you, why was that?
Shout out to Marv Rockicill.
Shout out to Drew Sedora.
I love that woman, you know, actually, so the story behind that is I booked girlfriends
I did episode of girlfriends and when I went on set
She remembered meeting me coming to my home because my sister Allison is my manager since I was like eight years old
And so she came to the house to meet my sister. My sister was a writer on a man rock Martin
Worked from Glenn Morris agency. Yeah, like like OG, right?
and so she came to my sister's house to see if she was sharing her Rolodex, because she was moving to Los Angeles to become a producer. And she's like, Drew, when you were eight, you were running around the house talking about, I'm gonna be an actress and a singer. And she's like, and you really like stuck with it. And so for that reason, let's talk about some bigger things. So she wrote me in the show, the game. So that's how it came to be. And it was really like an honor, cause I'm like, you gotta be like A-list, right?
To play yourself.
So to have the opportunity, I was like, wow.
And to showcase my music,
I think that was one of the first times
that people took notice to me as an actual musical artist.
Well, you got, I did it to me.
Your music is out.
And I watched, you said that your music was like,
your healing when you were going through the divorce,
cause you were in such a dark place.
What song on your album was like, healing when you were going through the divorce because you were in such a dark place.
What song on your album was like, when you hear it now, you get tearful.
It takes you there.
It's your favorite.
It's two.
Definitely I did it to me and Love for a Minute with Ciara.
Shout out to Ciara Gates.
She came and gate laid like a bar.
Little situation.
I'm glad you're talking about Russell Wilson's Ciara. gate late like a bar little situation was in a booth it was very yeah yeah
I thought you were talking about Russell Wilson Sierra
Oh girl oh speak it
I know Sierra was rapping
She was rapping that's a lot of people don't know she came in but it's a very
emotional record and that was the record that actually Dennis and I were in the
studio and it was like really emotional he was over there crying about Portia and
I was in there having my moment but it is, it's an emotional record.
But I did it to me as very representative of the project because it's about taking accountability
and that's why I love that record because I can sit here and share you know with you
guys all the things that my ex did right that weren't right but it gets tiring after a
while to keep blaming everything on the other person. So for me it's like,
no, I played a part. You know, there were things I could have done better if I'm
being honest and so that's what the song is saying. Like, look in the mirror. It's
not easy to do, you know, but you gotta sometimes look at yourself and say, okay
yeah, I made a mistake here, there and I could have been better and then grow from
that. Do you let him know that? I have, actually. I have, we've had conversations,
you know, before we go to court, because when you go to court,
that's when everything blows back up.
But we've had conversations where we have stated, you know, we understand our differences
now and I can say, well, I could have done this better and he has said it, you know,
and apologize in some areas.
And yeah, like we're humans and just being more gentle with ourselves and just forgiving
each other doesn't erase everything and every pain that we cause but yeah we can be honest
and say you know I wasn't perfect I can say that and every time I watch your
interviews you're breaking down and every single time and I'm wondering like
why put more stuff out there like Michael B Jordan have you spoke to him
since the Carlos King interview oh my god God. That was a question. That was a big, I'm like whoa.
So in Carlos King's interview, Carlos King asked her
who's one of the most famous people she's dated
and she mentioned that she used to date
Michael B. Jordan back in the day.
And that was everywhere, I'm like whoa,
she just be volunteering to info.
Well I get asked a question, I am.
Did you hit?
No.
No.
No.
No, not even a little bit.
He asked me on a date to attend the NAACP awards.
It was probably like 2006 when he was still on the soap operas.
I met his mom and stuff.
It was cool.
We went out on a couple of days.
There was no intimacy on the record.
He was a very, very sweet guy.
Very, very sweet.
He's been super successful.
But yeah, that's my true thing.
It happened.
It happened, you know?
This is my last question.
With all the healing that you've gotten, right, and what you know now, if you could go back
and whisper something to yourself during the hardest moment of your marriage, what would
you say?
The hardest part of my marriage. I think um Ralph moving out of the bedroom you know that it felt like
abandonment you know what I mean? It's different to like go sleep separately and just but him
making the decision to move out instead of fighting because people don't stay married
forever without waking up every day and choosing each other so when the person wakes up and
doesn't choose you,
yeah.
Well, we appreciate you for joining us. It's Drew Sedora.
It's the Breakfast Club, good morning.
Absolutely.
We gotta get Porsche in the studio
because Drew do records.
What was the other young lady that was up here?
Shamar?
Shamia.
Shamia.
We gotta get Porsche in the studio, man.
To do a record?
She going back to music again?
She different, she done music before?
You don't remember that video?
She had like a little...
I gotta show it to you.
I have no problem watching the portion video. Pull that up, Rick.
I can never see it.
I'll show it to you in a break.
Well, let's get to the latest with Lauren.
Lauren be coming with straight facts.
Tell her! Tell her!
She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
She be having the latest on the news. She be having the latest on the news. Well, speaking of, uh, Portia, uh, Portia Williams and Nini Leakes may be rekindling.
The girls might be getting back together.
So Portia was on her YouTube channel
and she was taking fan questions
and they asked her about Nini.
Let's take a listen.
Portia said that she would be open
to reconciling with you. Not this one.
Would you reconcile with Nini?
Listen, life is short.
That's what I'm saying, life is short.
This year, a lot of the cast and me
personally have had a lot of loss in my family. And so life is short. And so the right situation,
the right conversation can absolutely be had. I don't think there's anything there is this
completely to the point to where, you know, there couldn't be a conversation.
this completely to the point to where, you know, there couldn't be a conversation.
Yes. Now that it yes, that's a step in the right direction. But then Nene Leakes was on her show, The Nene Leakes Show,
and she was asked about Portia's comments and, you know, her response.
Let's take a listen to that.
Portia said that she would be open to reconciling with you.
Well, of course you would, sweetheart, because I never did to you.
In the first place, when I said what I said about Portia, I said again,
what happened, happens.
Like, I'm not one of those people who just walk around
in my everyday life just lying about stuff.
Like, it just don't work for me.
I said what I said, it was the truth.
It really happened.
She was going through a divorce with Simon,
and I think she said something like I didn't check on her
or something like that. Girl, this ain't think she said something like I didn't check on her
or something like that.
Girl, this ain't your first divorce.
Maybe I could have checked on her.
I honestly didn't even think about it like that.
Somebody that maybe missed it once or twice,
get them a little grace.
Who knows what they were going through that day.
I don't have a problem with reconciling with Portia,
but I'm gonna tell about herself first, honey.
So when do you want to have drinks
so we can fix this boy?
shot
Nothing wrong with that at all. It's not like they fit the end job rule
They just feel like they can smooth that over exactly and if for those of you guys who do not remember
They had fell out when Portia was going through her divorce with Simon
And she said that Nini didn't check in on her little sis and Nini had said that Portia didn't want to film with her
At one point and you know, she alleged that uh, you know
Portia just was distancing herself and she tried to reach out to Portia and Portia
Responded with the cold shoulder not wanting to deal with her anymore
So they've been rocky since then and they've thrown their little blows
But good to hear that but I would love to know if Portia is open to sitting down and having those drinks like
Immediately and if she's gonna push for NeNe to be back on the show. But these ladies were really never
never friends right? I mean the show put them together and now they're
quote-unquote best friends. Do you think she's sitting down with Drew? No.
Push is not sitting down with Drew no time soon especially not the interview
we just had with Drew. And Shamir made it seem like they were a force fit but other
than those two, they're not
really friend friends.
No, Nini made me think though, are all divorces different?
Because she said that this ain't your first time being divorced.
So if you are, like let's say you're friends with Kim Kardashian, right?
Kim Kardashian's been divorced like what, four times?
Yeah.
So she gets married again and gets divorced again.
Do you check on her?
It is.
That is kind of a point, right?
Like you've been through this before.
You've been down this road already, yeah?
Do you?
I don't know. Are all divorces different? I've never been divorced. I don't want to know. I mean, I would say so. That is kind of a point, right? At this point, it's like, yeah. You've been on this road already, yeah? Do you?
I don't know.
Are all the voices different?
I've never been on the voice.
I don't want to know.
I mean, I would say so.
Yeah.
Probably so, depending on circumstances and stuff
like that.
And these are, oh, I was going to say, shh.
No, it's a segment.
I'm going to talk.
Talk, speak up.
Thank you.
We don't want to hear nothing from Lauren
about our relationships.
We haven't gone on that road in a while.
First of all, first of all.
But nothing has changed.
I just think, that's all I'm saying.
That's the only reason I was like, she's dead.
I was going to say as an avid housewife watcher.
Oh, okay, okay.
Yeah, because you don't even know Shemeah's name, so you should shh.
As an avid housewife watcher, we've watched the different divorces,
and I think this one, even though they're all public,
it was a really big deal because it came out of nowhere.
She was all happy and then the next day it was just over.
But again.
That in effected trying to deport him, right?
I mean, yeah.
But she stepped away before that.
Simon!
Oh.
I was like, damn, they just deporting all types of people
on that show.
What is that, Real Housewives of New York?
Well, Portia Carlos, let me know if this reunion
is happening or not,
because yeah, we need to know what's going on.
But moving on, speaking of the girls getting together,
Glowrilla has announced a release date
for her sample of Keisha Cole's Love.
She says, that's my type of N-word
is gonna be coming this Friday.
She already has a pre-save.
Tomorrow.
Yeah, tomorrow Friday.
The pre-save link is already in her bio.
And this is the song that she's been kind of teasing since Coachella
Miss you hear me?
Okay, and Kisha co-op singing your god is singing
What singing on a sample? She's simple love and I think those are her vocals over it.
Maybe?
She said we're singing?
That sounded like Keisha.
Come here again.
This is Slow Down.
They just changed the pitch.
Chopped the groove?
Alright, what else you got?
I was going to say that Keisha Cole actually told us exclusively here that that was going
down when she came here to talk to us.
She said she cleared it.
Yep, she told us that she cleared it.
Oh yeah. So now we will see that Friday. I'm to talk to us. She cleared it. Yep, she told us that she cleared it. Oh, yeah. Yes.
So now we will see that Friday.
I'm looking forward to it.
That's it for the hour.
All right.
Well, we'll see you next hour.
Shh.
Hm?
Shh.
Shh.
What?
We got to be quiet.
Did you find out that the clips were never signed to Dev Jam?
Did you?
You didn't get it?
All right.
You got to.
You got to.
It's a new day.
God has granted another 24 hours.
We're going to focus.
OK, OK.
Let's make a show.
Alright.
She almost said get off my D.
I did, I could have though.
I remember that where I was at.
I remember, I collected and gathered myself.
I didn't know they was texting you a lot after the...
I didn't get a text.
I didn't.
Alright.
Cap.
Alright, well, donkey today.
Lauren is a trusted source and she
will trust her this sources trust her yes in order to be a trusted source
sources must trust you up that mic we give you the donkey to man Linda McMahon
second education secretary needs to come in front of the congregation we like to
have a war with her please all, we'll get to that next.
And also, Jess Fix My Mess.
If you need relationship problems,
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This is a miracle.
There is no question that there are problems in this country between police and community.
Yes, you are a donkey.
The latest on that police killing of a black man.
Now the new developments in the deadly spa shooting rampage.
It was a really bad day for him and this is what he did.
And so we are in a state of emergency.
Okay, white supremacy violence is,
always has been the number one threat to our society.
But I'm also very proud that my wife is white.
To the breakfast club, bitches.
All right, Charlene, please tell me,
why was I your donkey of the day?
Well, donkey of the day for Thursday, June 5th
goes the education secretary, Lyndon McMahon.
Yes, Lyndon McMahon, former CEO of WWE, is the United States Secretary of Education.
What is the Secretary of Education?
Well, the Secretary is responsible for the overall direction, supervision, and coordination
of all activities of the Department of Education, and she is the principal advisor to the President
on federal policies, programs, and activities
related to education in America.
Now what qualifications does Linda McMahon have to be in this role?
Some would say that her qualifications are thinner than my hairline.
She has had two years on Connecticut State Board of Education, many years on the Board
of Trustees of Sacred Heart University in Fairfield, and two years as chief of the US
Small Business Administration.
And she's run two unsuccessful campaigns for US Senator.
And during that campaign, she proved that she didn't know much about government.
So when she got the role of Secretary of Education, plenty of people knew she wouldn't be mistaken
for a great educator.
So what ended up getting her the job as Education Secretary?
Well, her one main qualification was she was caked up.
Oh, she had that brand.
She made a lot of money by being the CEO of WWE.
She was married to Vince McMahon for 58 years.
So, you know, having that kind of money
got her close to people like Donald Trump
and now Trump is president.
So he said, hey Linda, come run this department
that I'm talking about shutting down our dismantling. Now, I had to give you a little backstory on Linda so you understand why she is
getting donkey of the day today. Okay. In a recent Senate hearing, Linda McMahon was tasked with
defending the Trump administration's 2026 education budget. Now, keep in mind, like a lot of people in
Trump's administration, folks have said Linda is not qualified for the role
She is in okay people have said she's out of her depth and ill-informed about the Department of Education the department
She is currently leading well this Senate hearing didn't help okay? It was a lot of math mishaps and historical hiccups
Would you like to hear it? Let's start with some of the math mishaps first
Secretary McMahon of course testified before the Senate today and Republican senators kind of did their level best to lob her softball questions
and make it look like she kind of knows what she's doing. What was we ranked
nationally in math and in reading in 1979? We were very very low on the totem
pole. We're number one in 1979. Jesus. We were very, very low on the totem pole.
Actually, we were number one.
Very awkward.
That's the secretary of education, everyone.
Simple question.
You asked where we were ranked in math in 1979.
We were number one.
That's not hard to understand.
Okay.
All right.
Let's stay on the math.
Uh, there was a math problem in there, right?
Let's listen.
We spend $1.58 billion a year on TRIO. Yes. problem in there right let's listen. We spending $1,580 million a year on this program.
More than 10 years?
Yes.
So that's over a trillion dollars.
Okay.
I understand that we was not ranked
number one in math recently either,
but something there seems off, right?
Don't have to be a mathematician.
Maybe there's a Democrat on this committee
who can help them out a little bit.
Madam Secretary, I'm the secretary.
And I'm not a great mathematician, but I think you were talking about a trillion dollars.
I believe 1.5 billion times 10 is $15 billion.
That's a little bit off from a trillion dollars.
I think the budget cuts $1.2 billion.
Well, $1.2, that would be $12 billion, not a trillion dollars.
Okay.
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Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone, most of all his wife, Caroline.
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Caroline's husband was living another life behind the scenes.
He betrayed his oath to his family and to his community.
She said you left bruises, pulled her hair, that type of thing.
No.
How far would Joel go to cover up what he'd done?
You're unable to keep track of all your lies.
And quite frankly, I question how many other women
may bring forward allegations in the future.
This season of Betrayal investigates one officer's
decades of deception, lies that left those closest to him
questioning everything they thought they knew.
Listen to Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Over the past six years of making my true crime podcast Hell and Gone,
I've learned one thing. No town is too small for murder.
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begging for help with unsolved murders.
I was calling about the murder of my husband at the cold case.
I've never found her, and it haunts me to this day.
The murderer is still out there.
Every week on Hell and Gone Murder Line, I dig into a new case,
bringing the skills I've learned as a journalist and private investigator
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Police really didn't care to even try.
She was still somebody's mother.
She was still somebody's daughter. She was still somebody's daughter.
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There's so many questions
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Listen to Hell and Gone Murder Line
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This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else.
Each episode, I'll be diving into some
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I'll then be joined in conversation by guests
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What happens when we come face to face with death?
My truck was blown up by a 20-pound anti-tank mine.
My parachute did not deploy.
I was kidnapped by a drug cartel.
I just remember everything getting dark.
I'm dying.
When we step beyond the edge of what we know.
To open our consciousness to something more than just what's in that Western box.
And return.
I clinically died.
The heart stopped beating.
Which I was dead for 11.5 minutes.
My name is Dan Bush.
My mission is simple.
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To remind us what it means to be alive.
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Jesus Christ. Can we do some historical hiccups while we're here? Let's do some historical hiccups.
Do you know what the Tulsa Race Massacre is? I'd like to look into it more and get back to you on it.
Okay, so I look forward to that. How about the book Through My Eyes by Ruby Bridges, for instance?
I haven't read that.
Have you learned about Ruby Bridges?
If you have specific examples you'd like to write.
That was a specific example.
I'll be very happy.
It was an incredibly specific example.
I'll name the specific book.
I'll listen to your questions and I will look into it and get back to you on the mic.
Lord have mercy.
What about when she was questioned about DEI programs?
That's the Holocaust one.
Do you think that Holocaust education in our schools is a DEI program?
There's no card for that. That's just yes or no.
I can look at whatever card I choose.
Holocaust education, is it a DEI? You can have a press conference to say whatever you want.
I just need a quick answer to this.
You're soliloquy.
Is Holocaust, because this is my time, is Holocaust education a DEI program?
No.
Is African American studies a DEI program?
I think I answered that with one of your problems.
I'm asking it again.
We should be able-
Just yes or no.
We should be able to teach courses in their environment.
My point is they are DEI programs, both of them, because students need diversity,
equity, and inclusion to understand
their environments. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. You can't support
one without supporting the other.
Now, I'm not the highest grade of weed in the dispensary, but it's safe to say she has
no idea what she's talking about. And she's the secretary of education. These aren't isolated
incidents, ladies and gentlemen. Linda McMahon has previously referred to artificial intelligence as A1.
Okay, A1 is a delicious steak sauce.
Okay, not AI, all right?
And listen, one thing the Trump administration
has not done yet in its second term is prove people wrong.
Okay, Linda McMahon is not qualified
to be Department of Education,
but we knew this as soon as it was announced.
Okay, I don't understand the attack on DEI.
The basis of it is people aren't qualified for their jobs. They're just getting them because of
their identity. Hello? What's the difference here? Linda got this job because she's friends with
Donald Trump. If you identify as a loyalist to Trump, you get these kinds of positions.
What I really hate is when people say things like, this Senate hearing is casting doubt on her ability to lead the Department of Education
effectively. Casting doubt? Listen, having Linda McMahon as Secretary of Education,
that's like giving DJ academics two bottles of Hennessy and asking him to run a quiet
meditation retreat.
Okay?
Linda, you can't go in front of the Senate and get put in a cripple across face by basic
math.
Okay?
Linda can script the undertaker coming back from the dead, but can't script the coherent
answer to how numbers work?
I'm not saying everybody in government needs to be a genius, but if you're going to run
education you should probably know how to count and maybe, just maybe, understand a little bit of America's
history.
I know that Linda McMahon being Secretary of Education is fantastic content for late
night talk show hosts and morning show radio hosts, but America, the implications for the
nation's education system are no laughing matter.
Perhaps it's time to consider whether the role of Education Secretary should require
at the very least a firm grasp on elementary math.
Please let Chelsea Handler give the Secretary of Education, Linda McMahon, the biggest hee-haw.
Hee-haw, hee-haw!
That is way too much Dan Maynaise.
All right.
First, it was the head of FEMA not knowing that America had a hurricane season. Now it's Linda McMahon not knowing basic math and
what should be basic history. That lady was on her ass though. What? What? Oh no
they was eating her up. Representative Johanna Hayes and
Representative Summer Lee. Oh they was on her head. She tried to hit him with the I
don't recall I have to do some research and get back at you.
I'm asking again.
Don't say it again.
But they were just proving a point.
They were just spiking the football.
They know that woman is not qualified to be in that role.
They were just proving it in that moment again.
All right.
Well, thank you for that donkey today.
Up next, Jess Fix My Mess, 800-585-1051.
You're having some problems, some issues in your relationship.
Call Jess right now.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
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Ex about me.
Relationship problems.
Ex about me.
You need to beat your coworker's ass.
Ex about me.
Your coworker need to beat your ass.
Call it up.
It's Dr. Jess and I'm here to fix your mess.
It's getting very much messy.
Let me fix it.
Morning everybody.
It's DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Negao.
We are The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
I'm here to fix your mess.
It's getting very much messy.
Let me fix it.
Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious,
Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club.
It's time for Jess Fix My Mess.
Jasmine!
Yes!
Hey, what's your question for Jess?
Sorry.
Oh, hi, I'm calling from Buffalo, New York.
I'm in love with two dudes.
I've been with one dude for five years, real toxic.
Then I got with somebody else for six months, and the dude I've been with one dude for five years, real toxic. Then I got with somebody else for six months.
And the dude I've been with for six months,
he be treating me like way better than the ex,
but I'm still like locked in with my ex.
And I've been balancing both for the past two weeks
and I really don't know what to do.
You gotta leave one alone, especially the toxicity.
I mean, is sex better with one than the other?
Yes, the ex is way better and bigger than the one that's short and stumpy, but I mean is one is sex better with one than the other
Yeah, but but is the toxicity worth the good be I mean like you got to choose you got to choose the one I mean, it's really not cuz my ex the reason why me my ex broke up the last time
He sent me a video of him having sex with another girl like to give me that but it's Betty's to be honest
He didn't really huh? He's a clown. He's a clown for that. That's not that's you can't do that. Yeah
Yeah, so you gotta leave him alone. Do y'all got kids together? No, no, no, we don't
Do my thing, you know, that's know have fun get three four more for the summer
I'm trying for kids like that
Yeah, listen leave them alone
But if you but listen if if you like both if this is the life that you want for yourself by all means
But you called me so i'm letting you know
Leave yeah, I just didn't want you know the when he sent me that video
You know some girls could have got traumatized and what I did was you know, I went out you're not gonna scare me
You know really been down about that I turned myself around to my front and sat down.
Look I love it. You don't need your meds fixed. You good. Keep living your life.
Thank you and I can't wait to see you at the helium club.
I love you. I'm gonna see you later on.
She turned into lemonade.
She should have just replied back thank you then.
And if you're gonna do that why not get your little threesome thing on, you know?
Exactly.
She loved this.
What was it?
Sex and me?
What Biggie say?
Sex and me while your man masturbates and then did he go uh, uh.
You know what I'm saying?
They the only type of lyrics you quote with glee.
Like you quote gay stuff with glee.
Because it made sense in that context. That's why.
We have Darryl on the line.
Darryl, good morning.
Good morning.
What's your question for Jess?
Take us off Bluetooth for speaking
if you have us on there.
All right, I'll pick you up.
My question is, I couldn't have a girlfriend,
but I got two other girls, and one of them is pregnant,
but they don't know about the main girl.
I'm trying to figure out what to do
because the two girls don't like each other so you mess them but one of them
is pregnant and I can't have all three listen yes so you mess with three girls one is pregnant and
the other two and only two of them know about each other only one of them do but
the two girls that know about each other hate each other do you know why I tried
to have a reason with them but they got jealous so it didn't work out with them.
Why are you calling here? Why are you calling me?
I was just trying to see what to do.
Let them go. Leave these women alone.
Leave these women alone.
But they like me. I'm not promising them a relationship so I thought it was cool.
I think Jess wants you to leave her alone too.
Yeah, yeah, because you're calling me with this and they need to be calling me.
I think that's the problem.
They're not calling me.
You asking me what you should do?
You should release these women.
You got one pregnant and you still trying to figure out how to have a threesome with
all three?
No, I don't want a threesome with all three. No, I don't want no more I'm just trying to see if I should just leave the girl who's pregnant alone or still try to
Confront her like still make her feel good. What do you feel? What do you feel?
Are you in love with the one is this the one you want to be with you or you just or I don't want to
Be there, but I feel bad like very she's pregnant
I don't want to feel like all alone
I do respect that y'all wanted to feel alone so you could be around for the pregnancy
But you yeah, if y'all not gonna be together just leave alone after that damn
I don't even know what to tell you this is crazy. This is good
They all want to definitely need to be with her while she pregnant. I mean she can't do this alone
This is crazy. But you definitely need to be with her while she's pregnant. I mean, she can't do this alone. They just don't want to share me, but they want to stay without a relationship.
I don't know. You gotta call Neo, bro. You can't call him.
Call Neo. Goodbye, sir.
I don't know what to tell you.
Hello, who's this?
What's up, what's up? This is Lamar.
Lamar, what's up? What's your question for Jess?
Okay. So my question is,'m much for cover, right?
I'm gonna start from there cuz it's gonna it's gonna play a part in everything. I'm gonna play
Okay, I was I met a guy at a truck stop
We were talking for a little minute and then we I met somebody else
But then I end up dating this actual person the next person I met
The the person that I was I met at the guy I at the truck stop, he told me he wanted to
still stick around as my friend. Me believing it. Me trying to be cool about it. I left
it be. I kept him around as a friend. I decided to not talk to him anymore. He calls my current
situation and tells them that we've been messing been him and mess around the whole time and
He just kind of throwing a whole little monkey wrench in with my current situation. So now I'm
Situation no, it wasn't I was
Coming to truth, you know, we weren't we were just
I'll be I'll be wanting people to talk to so he was good to talk to him.
I'll be wanting people to talk to.
So he was good to talk to on the phone.
Right, right, right.
On the road, like just conversation, passing time.
Yeah.
Okay.
So when my current situation hit me, he said, oh, how he know all this?
But it's only because I confided to him as a friend.
So I don't know how to handle the situation because now he don't believe that I'm in my
current situation.
Right, right.
But when you got when you secured a relationship with the current situation, did you tell him
about the other guy you never told him about?
You did?
I did.
I told him about the other guy.
I told him that me and him was serious.
We were going on trips and stuff together and everything.
So he's watching the post the Instagram posting everything.
We had to cut him off. What do I do about this guy? Yeah, yeah, you gotta cut him off
I do because yeah, he's trying to he's trying to sabotage a relationship with your current situation
Oh, yeah, you got me. I don't even know
What
Yeah, he had looked up. I guess he had did a background. Yeah address and everything. He didn't even know his name
Oh, yeah, get up. Yeah. Yeah, he's a spy. I'll be part-time for the CIA
Yeah, like Secret Service. Yeah, you gotta leave him alone
Happy pride I Have you bright
Thank you. You're welcome. Jesus just fix my mess 800. Yo, that one was crazy. Yes. I love that
800 585 105 1 now we got the latest with Lauren coming up. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning the Breakfast Club
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Morning, everybody.
It's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy.
We are the Breakfast Club.
Let's get to the latest with Lauren.
Lauren becoming a straight face.
Tell her.
Tell her.
Man it.
She gets into somebody that knows somebody.
She gets the details.
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
She be having the latest on you.
Is that sound the things?
The largest.
The latest with Lauren La Rosa.
Sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit
everything.
But what's the latest on the Breakfast Club?
Yesterday, Brandon Heyman, who played Ahmad in Soul Food posted
a photo of him in Big Mama. And the photo went viral. He was
celebrating her birthday. She turned
90 years old.
Darrell Bock What a blessing.
Kareem is that Ahmad is trying to bring the family back together and for one last Sunday dinner. And that is what he's doing right now.
The documentary, I actually spoke to Brandon
and he tells me that the documentary
is gonna be executive produced by Vivica A. Fox,
George Tittleman Jr. who was actually one of the writers
and director of the original Soul Food,
or I'm sorry, George Tillman Jr. and Bob Tittle
who is a producer from Soul Food
that is also George's partner.
And they've been working on this documentary since
2000 or 2023
Erma Hall big mama miss Erma Hall is in the doc
So is a Vivica a Fox who played Maxine Michael Beach who played miles Jeffrey Sands
They have a commitment from the entire cast to be a part of this doc. That'd be me along McCoy
Fife yes, Vanessa Williams
Yes
Are you telling me something about the young boy
behind the scenes, how come we didn't see him as much
as we think we should have,
because he was a huge actor at the time, right?
Yeah, he'd done Soulful, Minister of Society,
went into Excel, Space Jam,
and then he kind of just like fell off the end of the earth.
And a lot of people have been asking for years.
Jesus, man.
Christ, God damn.
What?
I spoke to him, these are his words, not mine.
His words, not mine.
He literally, this is the premise of the documentary, a big part of it is people feel like he just
went missing and they don't know why.
And it's because he actually was dealing with a very serious illness.
So he has an autoimmune disease.
It's a very rare one called Castleman's disease.
So this disease, it affects his lymph nodes and his like upper airways in his chest.
And he said that he had tried to still act and because it was going so well for him,
he was so good at it.
But an agent at the time told him that people don't want to see sick kids on TV.
So he took a step back to just try and figure some things out.
But he wants this documentary to not only be a celebration of the cast and the movie
and what it did for storytelling, especially in Chicago, but he also wants to tell his story too about what he struggled with behind the scenes.
Yeah, because he couldn't act.
And he said also today he had a few near-death experiences that he never could talk about
because he always thought if he could get back to screen, he didn't want that to be
the story.
But now he's bringing it to the screen with the help of his cast and his family from Soul
Food.
All those rewatchable shows, when you listen to them on podcasts,
those rewatchable documentaries, they're great.
Like the way are they now shows, incredible.
Cause you remember the nostalgia you felt
when you first watched those films back in the day.
You know, are those TV shows.
Yeah, and that's crazy.
They ain't wanna see sick kids on TV.
We don't mind that.
Everybody's welcome.
Well, we wouldn't know they sick unless they told us.
Yeah, and that was his thing is like,
he just thought he could get under control and not have to tell us and then come
back to TV.
But it was such a thing that he, you know, he's been doing other things and he's doing
things as he can.
But right now with this doc, he's actually trying to raise $100,000 for the complete
doc.
And if you want to support, you can follow them at Sunday Dinner Doc and they are raising
the money via Indiegogo.
So yes.
Now in other news, we have some congratulations to Sin because one of them days is getting
a sequel.
Now this is the movie with SZA and Kiki Palmer that came from producer, producer Issa Rae.
Did y'all see it?
Yeah.
That movie is funny as hell.
Yeah. You see it yet Jess? You'll like it Jess. No I ainall see it? Yeah, that movie's funny as hell. Yeah, you see it? Yeah, Jess. You like it Jess. No
I ain't see it. You like it. Yeah
It's on Netflix. And so Variety announced this week that Sony Pictures is going to be bringing it back with TriStar
Now the sequel will you know, which was it the sequel of the Issa Rae produced film is in development already
And it's going to be actually using most of the creative team from the original project is set to return
With the cat a lot of the original cast as well, too. I can see that world. I see that world as a sequel
Like a Friday. Yeah, it's like a Friday. It was like Friday
I see it on a plane next time you fly out they they have it on the plane now as well
So you can watch it on the plane, but it's hilarious. Made a lot of money too.
Made over $50 million at the box office.
Yes, it did.
About a $14 million budget, I think.
It made $50 million when it premiered in theaters
in January 2025.
And because of this movie, there was a big call
for more black women-led, like buddy-buddy comedies
in theaters.
Like she said, it's like a Friday.
It's just like a Friday type of flick.
Yes.
Yes.
So congratulations to them.
And then lastly in the latest Halle or Halle Berry.
Halle Berry got into some trouble back in Mother's Day.
Back on Mother's Day.
Y'all remember the video she posted with her man.
She was laid up in bed.
Yep.
Okay.
So she posted that video and people were upset.
They were upset because she was in her bed with her man and they were talking about a few things. Let's take a listen to
the original video.
Show y'all how my day started, how my mother's day started. And now I'm gonna tell you about,
I'm not gonna show you, I'm gonna tell you about how my mother's day is gonna end. You
know, right? Yes. I wish you hurry up
We got our let's spin because let's spin just came out in this cute little travel size and since we're in can France I travel with it for the first time and we're about to give it a spin. You got the camera band
How you mad because she's a lot of her man
People were upset because she was talking openly about sex or saying should she be talking about this on Mother's Day
She didn't she be with her kids somewhere
There were a lot of things she's in bed with her man promoting her product. Yes, huh?
How you break our kids? That's a good question. I didn't
Google AI but
If her guy if her man has kids that
they have.
But even if so, she made a good point in her response.
Let's take a listen to her response.
Well, speaking of motherhood, on Mother's Day, you created a little stir.
So there was a reaction which even caught you a little bit off guard maybe.
It did because women, other women got in their feelings and was it right for her to be in
her bed talking about spinning with her man?
Yes!
And they were saying, should she be talking about that on Mother's Day?
Shouldn't she be with her kids somewhere?
First of all, it's not Kids Day, it's called Mother's Day.
Yes it is!
Kids Day is every day of the year Kids Day.
That's my day and if I want to be in bed and spin with my man, then that's what I'm gonna
do.
And to answer your question, Holly Berry does have kids.
She's been a mom since 2008, per People Magazine.
I see, she has two kids.
Yes, she has two kids.
But yeah, she was promoting her product, and she's been promoting this product forever.
It didn't come out of nowhere.
It's KY, right?
There's something like that, some type of lubricant?
It's a lubricant, but it's not called KY.
I mean, I know it's not called KY,
but it's a lubricant.
Yeah, but yes, it's basically that.
And remember, we were talking about the whole menopause,
and she was talking about after menopause,
things dry up a little bit,
and she's been having these conversations.
So it was promotion, and she's happy,
and I don't understand why people care.
So what, do people think she too grown for that?
They think she's too mature for that?
Or they think Holly Barry shouldn't be doing that?
Like, what is it? I'm trying to figure out what's the commotion here? I think people are stupid
I mean she has two kids this mother's day
She could do mother's day how she wants to do mother's day and a lot of times
You know what mother say you know what I spend all my time with my kids
I want a date for myself for mother's day, and that's fine
I thought that's what kind of like what happens anyway for everybody so man. I didn't know that she had kids
Okay, I didn't even know that either. We never seen that you know what I I mean? Well, I can't say we, but I have never seen them.
She has a daughter and a son.
I like how she talk about sex like she
about to go shoot up her ops.
She say, I'm gonna spin on it.
That's the name of her product.
Oh, that's what it's called?
Yeah.
Oh.
I mean, it is fire, though.
I'm gonna go spin on it.
It's called Let's Spin.
Let's Spin.
It's an intimacy jail.
Damn. You know what I'm saying? She talk like she got the chop spin. Let's spin. It's an intimacy Joe
She's about to wet up a whole block
Spin we spin on that thing They make one for me and me No, that's it. I was just wondering. The wrong one. What that woman said? I'm too a girl.
Yeah.
I don't got nothing else after that.
They make one for me and me.
You know you be saying you need help.
I don't need no help. I'm good.
Okay.
That ain't true. You wrote a book already.
That was a long time ago.
I was just trying to say.
And the book is saying that you didn't make your hip-hop album in 10 years.
That was a long time ago.
I'm just saying.
But you wrote about it.
I've been with my wife since 16.
That book is eternal. That book is gonna outlive you. That's alright. That book is gonna outlive the two.
A hundred years from now people are gonna be reading that book saying wow, you know that was a time when men couldn't make it when it's all done.
There was a time back in the day, you know, there was a time when it...
You know what? Forget y'all. That's the latest with Lauren. When we come back we got the people's choice mix. Let's go
You're checking are the Breakfast Club,
it's Pride Month and Jess reps a gay a day.
Yes y'all, I'm about to rep my girl, she not a stud but they wanted me to put my stud voice
on I don't know why.
But Candace Parker y'all, we just had her up here, she was up here for an interview to
promote her book but that's the gay I want to rep
today.
She is a WNBA legend, two-time MVP, and a third-time champion.
She made history winning titles with three different teams, so she liked that.
She retired now, but she leads Adidas Women's Basketball.
But this summer, the Chicago Sky will retire her iconic number three jersey.
So we re-repping Candace Parker today.
Salute to Candace Parker. Thank you for joining also week we repping Candace Parker today.
Salute to Candace Parker.
Thank you for joining us this week too Candace.
Make sure you go pick up her book The Can Do Mindset available everywhere you buy books
now.
That's right.
Shout out to everybody repping.
We got to salute to Drew Sedora for joining us this morning.
Yes, Drew Sedora.
Her neck is going to go viral all day.
Yeah, Housewives of Atlanta.
Yeah.
See I'm going to watch the show So she really was saying some stuff. Yes
I just like you know, yeah, man. You've been around for a long time. She gonna stay the pot. Yes. Yes
I'm sure Porsche will call you today. Okay. I know but drew music is actually good though
I do like I've always she got some some tight some tight music. We will get capital P in the studio
That's gonna be her recording name. I'm gonna capital P capital P capital P
That's what Wendy was built like they used to say that in the studio, that's gonna be her recording name. Portia, capital P. Capital P. Capital P. Capital P. You gon' get capital P.
They used to say that's what Wendy was built like.
They used to say that.
Capital P.
Nah, Wendy more like a lowercase b upside down.
That's a P!
That's a P!
That's a P!
That's a P!
This guy's an idiot.
He was on positive.
I know, I just don't like the comparison
of Wendy and Portia, that's all.
Okay, I get it.
I get it.
I understand. Okay, but listen,. I get it. I understand.
Okay, but listen, I want to salute the Don Staley man and I want to salute to all of y'all that have been showing up and showing out for Don Staley.
She's on the New York Times Best Tellers list again this week, but she's actually on two lists.
She's on the hardcover nonfiction list and she's on the audio nonfiction list. Salute to my girl Nicole Shelton, man, one of our fearless leaders, Nicole Renz.
You know, me and Kevin Hart's audio production company,
SBH, she directed Don Staley's audio book,
and it's on the New York Times bestsellers list as well.
So salute to Don Staley, make sure y'all go out there
and pick up Uncommon Favor,
available everywhere you buy books now.
Now, the positive note is simply this,
success doesn't come from what you do occasionally,
it comes from what you do consistently, okay?
Have a great day.
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Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war this year,
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It's kind of star-studded a little bit, man.
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