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Episode Date: July 11, 2024

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Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show, Civic Cipher. That's right. We discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle.

We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other. So join us each Saturday for Civic Cipher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. JNB. Better known as the People's Choice. And salute to all my light-skinned brothers out there. Jess Hilarious. Jess with the worldwide last. Jess don't do no lying. And Charlamagne the God. Don't get it, Jess.

Everybody come to the Breakfast Club. I call this the hot seat. Y'all are wild. Y'all are wild. Breakfast Club. It's like being on America's front porch. Y'all feel like my wrist cousins have never talked to me for like a year. Every time I go to the Breast Club, I know it's gonna be like a good night.

I'm getting high. Good morning What's happening? How's everybody feel out there? Good morning, I'm good I'm good, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good I am blessed, black, and highly favored Happy to be here, man, another day to serve Absolutely Our great listeners

Absolutely Legacy resilience So, yes, I do, I tell you, it's comfortable I got it on again today It's a different color But it's a different shirt, it's a different color And I got the shorts Yes today. It's a different color. It's a different color. And I got the shorts. Yes.

Okay. Yes, laundry. Yes, laundry. I love it. I wore this on vacation last week, too. I will repeat some clothes. I'm telling you about that right now. If it's comfortable, I will wear it a million times.

We absolutely, positively know. Wear it until it's not comfortable no more. Well, today is all about Michigan this morning. We got two special Michigan guests joining us. Oh, man. the governor of michigan michigan gretchen whitmer big gretchen's what they call her she's got a new book um it's a quick read too it's only like 187 pages it's called true gretch what i've learned about life leadership and everything in between and you know you know you've heard gretchen whitman's name a lot not just because she's doing a great job as governor of michigan but you know, people always

talk about her in regards to being at the top of the Democratic ticket. Yes. You know? If not this year, because something's going to have to change. Maybe in 2028. Maybe four years. Maybe. If we still have a democracy in 2028. She might be running

for president, maybe. Well, if we have a democracy, because as i've been uh asking over and over can biden win in 2024 i don't personally think he can i think that they should shift but that's just my personal opinion well democrats don't want you to ask that question they want you to just shut up they haven't want me to ask it in 18 months even though everybody's asking it now but uh yes if we still have a democracy four years from now she she could be one of the people running well it's weird that they're asking now they should have been asking asking it now but uh yes if we still have a democracy four years from now she she could be one of the people running well it's weird that they're asking now they should have been asking

18 months ago when when i was now it's too late to change yeah i'm not gonna say it's too late it's never too late to make a pivot uh but you know when when a lot of people were saying these things uh they would they would get in trouble for it i don't say get in trouble but people would give them backlash but now that people like chuck schumer is saying it and Nancy Pelosi is hinting at it. George Clooney. They're Democratic masses. When they Democratic masses say something, I bet you start seeing a lot of these Negroes shift.

They tune now. They'll start singing a different song. How do you spell mass? M-A-S-S-A. Okay. Okay? All right. About five or six A's at the end of it.

Massa. Massa. Yes. We got more from Michigan here today, too. That's right. 4-2 Doug will be joining us. That's right. He's got a new album, Forever Us, Never Them, which is out now.

It's Forever Us, Never Them. What did I just say? You said Forever Us, Never Them. It's Forever Us, Never Them. Forever Us, Never Them. I just said the same thing. You put the comma in the wrong space. There's no comma.

Well, you put your space in the wrong space. Yes, you did. Forever Us, Never Them. Yes, his album is out right now. So it's all about Michigan this morning. wrong space there's no comma well you put your space in the wrong space yes you did forever us yes his album is out right now so it's all about michigan this morning like i said governor gretchen whitmer and 42 doug will be joining us now we got front page news when we come back i'm sure we got a lot of president trump and biden this stuff to talk about so we'll get to that next it's the breakfast club good morning morning everybody it's dj nv just hilarious charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club Now let's get in some front page news.

Good morning, Morgan. Good morning, y'all. You know, we got that front page news for you. Yes. So President Trump, he will announce his vice presidential running mate pick for the upcoming 2024 presidential election soon. Speaking on Fox News' Brian Kilmeade show, he said he'll unveil his pick over the next week. Trump also slammed current Vice President Kamala Harris. In the process, let's hear more from President Trump. I'd love to do it during the convention.

You know, in the old days, they did it during the convention, and it kept the convention very exciting, actually. So we'll see about that. But pretty soon we'll be announcing. You know, you you got some good people and I have changed a little bit but you have they're all great and anyone would be fantastic anyone would be a lot better than laughing Kamala she's terrible Kamala is just terrible of course his top presidential or potential picks include North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum Florida Senator Marco Rubio and Ohio Senator J.D. Vance.

The Republican National Convention does get underway next week on Monday, July 15th. Any thoughts on that, you guys? His vice president pick? No. Yeah. No, because I don't think it matters too much, you know, when it comes to Donald Trump. Donald Trump has a very cult like following. So he's the main attraction.

I don't think there's anybody he can add to the ticket. That's not going to hurt our help. OK, well, you are entitled to that opinion. Meanwhile, the White House is increasingly taking aim at a conservative agenda dubbed Project 2025. We've heard a lot about that. Vice President Kamala Harris ridiculed the blueprint for a Trump presidency on a trip to Dallas, Texas, recently, where she was the keynote speaker during a meeting with Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated. Now, let's hear more from VP Harris during that rally.

It includes a plan to cut Social Security, to repeal our $35 cap on insulin, to eliminate the Department of Education. This represents an outright attack on our children, our families and our future. This is the most existential, consequential and important election of our lifetime. So Trump recently took this truth social, saying that he's pretty much trying to distance himself from the agenda, Project 2025, which was created by the Right-Wing Heritage Foundation. He said on Friday he doesn't know who wrote it, even though the two main authors are former Trump administration officials.

I really don't understand why folks are spending so much time on Project 25. even though the two main authors are former Trump administration officials. I really don't understand why folks are spending so much time on Project 25. It is terrifying when you read it. A salute to the good sister, Dr. Moon. She gifted me that book about a month ago to read up on Project 2025. And I absolutely believe that will be something they implement if Trump gets back in the White House. I mean, a lot of things are being implemented now, but they're being implemented by the Supreme Court. And that's what I think people should be focusing on, because, you know, Project 2025, that's like a wish list of what they want to happen if Trump gets back in the White House. But what the Supreme Court is doing is happening right now in real time.

I want to see the White House calling the Supreme Court an institution that is no longer legitimate. I want them calling out the Supreme Court for being corrupt right now because they are absolutely abolishing our constitutional rights in real time as we speak. That is way more of a threat than Project 2025 right now as we speak. Also a threat to us, if you have an iPhone, you might want to listen up. Smishing attacks are a threat. They could target your iPhone. Smishing is the term used for phishing attacks that are sent via text message. Now, they appear to be trying to get Apple users to put their Apple that claim to be from some sort of service representative

with a website link to look at iCloud logins. Now, the website also includes a captcha. You guys know what a captcha is. That also appears to make it legitimate. You know, captchas when you put in a code to determine that you're a real person and not a bot. So

people are being encouraged to double check the links that they receive before entering their personal information and their apple id login so have you or anybody you know experienced anything like that recently i never even heard of smishing tell just now smishing smell sound like a pornhub category it's always some type of fake something fake text yeah apple phones i get one like at least three times a week. Yeah, calls too. Now, the digital currency thing is going to be very scary in the next 10 years because people are hacking into everything. I've seen them hacking into the car business last week, which almost shut down the car business for a while, where people couldn't do deals because they shut that down and then charged them a ransom to get all that information back.

Digital currency is scary because I don't think we have enough protection on our stuff to be cool and calm and they can just go in your account and pull money off they could just go into your credit cards and i know what's happening to a lot of people digital currency is scary digital currency what you mean by digital currency like bitcoin and stuff no you being able to have your money like you know how you pay you know you pay with your phone most people don't even carry cash anymore everything is digital. Everything is through the phones. Everything is that way.

But people are breaking into people's accounts like crazy. And it doesn't seem like there's enough protection. The banks are doing enough to protect people and their money.

What if you could do it? You could protect yourself. You know, we'll talk more about that on the next hour. So you need a condom for smishing? Regular people

getting into the dark web. Oh, gosh. All right. Well, that is front page news. Thank you, Morgan. We'll see you next hour. All right. Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-

585-1051. It's a Thursday. Wake your ass up. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's a new day. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest. Wake up. Whether you're mad or blessed.

It's time to get up and get something. Call up now. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Yo, what's up? It's Alex out of North Carolina. What it is?

Alex, I'm sorry you had to hear that conversation behind the scenes, but good morning. Hey, it's all good. Good morning. How y'all doing? Good, good, good. I was upset about Joe Biden and Donald Trump running for president because they're both terrible. But then I started thinking about my girl,

man. I got a nice sister. We're about to be together for a year tomorrow so this is her child man i hope she's having a great day i was worried about what's going on in the world but you know what man my life is all right yeah it sucks but when you think about what's going on for yourself it gets a little bit better all right listen i think in certain times i agree with you because you got to remember your serenity prayer god grant me the serenity accept the things i cannot change courage to change the things I can

and the wisdom to know the difference. Amen. I know, that's right. Hello, who's this? Good morning, good morning. My name is Princess Jasmine. How are you guys this morning? How you feeling, Princess? Princess Jasmine, you little Disney character. Ah, don't do that, Charlamagne. Actually, you know me. You actually told me happy birthday

on my 30th birthday. Well, happy birthday, Jasmine. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. It's not my birthday. It's not my birthday. I'm telling you, actually told me happy birthday on my 30th birthday oh no no no no it's not my birthday it's not my birthday i'm telling you you told me happy birthday a long time ago oh and you told me something special you told me that uh if i didn't make what i needed don't worry because i still have time and i wanted to tell you guys that that was so pivotal and important for me because i definitely didn't know that i was going to be able to achieve all my dreams, which is why I'm calling this morning. Because I actually have some great news that I want to share with the world, with America. And I also want to pose a question to you guys if you have time.

Is that okay? Yes, ma'am. Perfect. Perfect. Thank you, Tommy. Well, firstly, I just want to say that I love, love, love what you guys do. Charlamagne, Jeff, Andy, you guys get up for America every day, and I know how hard it is to show up for everybody.

So I just want to say hello out of my heart and from America. I'm grateful for what you guys do. Thank you. However, I did get nominated. I'm sure if you guys know about the Caribbean Music Awards that is taking place August 29th in King's Theater. Are you guys aware of that? I've never heard of it.

Really? So this year, and I think last year as well, the Caribbean Music Awards have taken place in Brooklyn. So it's basically just like the B.E.C. Awards, but it's for all Caribbean artists. And this year I actually got nominated for a competition called The Next Big Star, in which if I win, I'll be able to

do the red carpet announcing. I'm really trying to get that spot, so if you guys could just go ahead and vote by going to princesschasmonseats.com and go to backslash vote for me. Vote Dash for me.

You'll be able to vote for me. But it does pose a really, really good question about the Caribbean. One more second. I would love to throw that at you. Are you guys ready? I'm ready. Perfect. Okay. So the question is, I'm sure you guys have enjoyed a lot of things

in the Caribbean. Just came back from Angola. You just came back from Angola. So I'm sure you know how beautiful the culture is. Of course. My question to New York and to Brooklyn and to all who is listening is, if the Caribbean culture died or if you lost something from Caribbean culture, what would you be afraid to lose? So for me, if Caribbean culture was to die, first and foremost,

I would hate to lose jerk chicken. Same. And the reason why I'm mad, right, because it's so cautious, so beautiful, and everyone loves it. The reason why I ask is because, I don't know if you guys noticed, that recently Hurricane Merle

has gone by and attacked, actually, the Caribbean cultures in a way that's devastated them, and they're in real, real need of help. So I just wanted to raise awareness. One, for the Caribbean Music Awards, if you guys are listening,

local princess Jasmine speaks, it is my job to raise awareness for Caribbean if I can. And so if I don't win the competition, at the very least, you guys will know to get your ticket for this event. This competition is actually being ran

by Y Clap John. He's trying to raise awareness for uh the caribbean culture in a way that hasn't been done in a while so well jasmine we're going to invoice you we're going to invoice you for this commercial that you just did okay this promo we appreciate it good luck and hopefully that you do win yes good luck uh and i yeah same i hope that she wins. I definitely would be devastated if we lost Caribbean food and music. Yeah, definitely. Caribbean food and music. Also, the islands. So, salute to all the Caribbean and West Indian people out there.

And also, salute to Buju. I know Buju Banton is in town this weekend. He's doing shows Saturday and Sunday. And I'm going. I'm going Saturday. So, I can't wait to see Buju perform. Alright. Get it off your chest. 800-585- I can't wait to see Boojoo perform. All right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.

If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this?

Hey, good morning, man. Peace and blessings, man. Sean Stone, what's up? Why you sound so stressed? I sound depressed, brother. No, no, no, no. It's called I Just Woke Up because a baby just woke me up, so I had to feed the baby. And I'm burping the baby at the same time.

Oh, okay. Oh, wow. You want us to let you go? No, no. Why you want to let you go? No. No. Why you want to let me go? I'm just saying, you burping the baby. I want to make sure you good.

You concentrate on the baby. Yeah. Yeah, nah, man. I'm able to multitask, man. I'm happy that you guys are back from vacation, man. You missed us? Yeah.

Yeah, I did miss y'all, man. You missed you. I was tired of hearing their... Who said he missed me? I said we missed you, too. No, you know it definitely wasn't him telling me. You got so excited thinking that I missed you.

That was envy. The envy said that. I could expect envy saying something like that. That could be Jess too though. Jess voice very deep. Man, Jess voice is not deep. Jess got a lady voice. Stop it, man. But anyway,

I know 42... She has a lady voice. Oh, I'm sorry. She don't have a man voice. Oh, my goodness. Thank you, Sean. Charlamagne, you know how you always telling me I need to go to the studio and record a song? I ain't never told you that.

I ain't never... I've actually told you the opposite. I ain't never told... I've never encouraged you to go in no damn studio and record nothing. Well, I finally done it anyway. And I came out with a record called Lovin'. And I'm wondering if the Breakfast Club family

could support it, man. It's called Thug Lovin'? No, Good Lovin'. Oh, okay. And you can find me on all streaming platforms. It's S-E-A-N, space, Stone, S-T-O-N-E, 876

this song is going viral on TikTok man you know what I mean he's such a liar I got a good record no I'm not lying bro this song is not going viral on TikTok

yes it is why do people always like to lie and say their song going viral on TikTok this song is not going viral on TikTok so

so man it's a good song it's on good song. It's on my Instagram page also, SeanStoneTV on IG, and it's a great song, man. Envy, you got to play it, man, and let the Breakfast Club, our family judge it.

Either flush it or play it, man. Charlamagne won't let me play it. I'm not hating on it. If Envy want to play it, he can play it. Charlamagne will not let me play it. I just don't think that we're ever going to get to a point where we're going to have time to do something like that on the show. We got a lot of pressing issues. See?

Like this morning, we have the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer, here talking about her new book, True Gretch. 42 Doug will be here talking about his album, 4S, Never Them. Jess Hilarious got Jess with the Mess. I got Donkey today. I just don't even know what we'd have time to play. But if everybody can come up here, if they have a book, talk about their book, their podcast and all that, we can sure play Sean's song. No. You want to play in your Just With The Mess?

I will get to it. No, you won't. Oh, my gosh. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. Now, we got Just With The Mess coming up. What are we talking about? Yo, Magda Stallion was on Family Feud, and she was asked a couple questions.

But there's one. People are overlooking this one. So, we're going to get to one of the questions that they asked her. I don't know how she ain't slapped somebody. All right, we'll get to that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody.

It's DJ Envy, Jess O'Leary, and Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to Jess with the mess. News is real, brother. It's the to Jess with the mess. News is real. Whether it's Jess O'Leary, Jessica Robin Moore, Jess don't do no lie. Don't do no lie. She don't spare nobody. Worldwide Jess.

Worldwide mess. On The Breakfast Club. She's a culture shift. She was able to get y'all to see something and understand something that nobody could get you to see this time to set it off So make the stallion was on Celebrity family food right her and her team and the opposing team was neo and his team right and so they asked her a question right before you go to your team and play and It's another question that's going viral with this one one they try and skip over I don't know they

ain't trying to blow it up but that's what I'm here to do so this is the question that was asked that I really want people to hear name something you've done to your mate's feet make it massage massage pass or play play we're gonna play let's go that's kind of wow that's definitely that's kind of wow i thought it was a very valid family feud question what no because i damn sure was thinking about whatever i'd done to my wife's feet soon as i heard it because you know when you watch family feud and you hear certain questions you start playing along so i was like massage them rub them but then i was like maybe massage and rububs the same thing then i was like suck the toes but then i was like oh you know what i didn't see nobody say

put some warm feet hey what's up this is ramses job and i go by the name q ward and we'd like you to join us each week for our show civic cipher that's right we're going to discuss social issues especially those that affect black and brown people but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a black show for non-black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. Exactly.

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I mean, put some warm water in a foot tub with some Epsom salt? Nobody gonna steal it. So basically, the second thing. That was a wild question. Because that's like a pedicure, basically. But her answer was the top answer. But for her, that was a wild question now i don't think it was like like maliciously asked or anything like that but

they knew what they was doing that's not odd no oh it's very much she got shot in the foot now it's a foot question y'all don't watch family feud i watch family feud all the time but that's a that's a that's actually kind of a regular family type of question that is they didn't have to do that that feet question when she was there they could have switched the questions up right now listen now listen would you say the same thing if tori lanes was on there and he said name something that you do to your friend's feet yeah that would be that would be yeah if it was toy to your point it applies more to tori than it does to megan no yeah if it was if it was toy to your point it applies more to toy than it does to megan yeah if it was if it was the toy i'd be like okay they trying to be funny yeah and it also feels like it feels like the internet seems to be more upset about that question than megan nostalgia

yeah no no she didn't look upset at all she didn't i mean she great actress she didn't look upset at all her team still won that little round you know what i'm saying but i just thought that that was what's the word ironic that they would ask her that yeah that they would ask her that why they asked neo what you gonna do to your front feet why they asked him well they asked both of them they asked it was both of them remember because both of their turns so she hit the buzzer first nah neo would have been something about his head because neo got that big ass call they always go off the who the person is like it would have been something about his head pause i don't know why i paused that but i just feel like i should yeah definitely yeah definitely anyway kiki palmer defends angela simmons after oreo bath to post all right so so uh angela has

she's collaborating with um baltimore's own pinky coals slutty vegan and um she's she has her own thing it's called eat angela cakes and the promo picture that she took for the collab um i was more confused than offended or mad at her but a lot of people she had a lot of people in an outrage angela simmons always had people in outrage but she's in a tub full of oreos oreo cookies yeah oreo cookies and so it was so many people just going in on her so kiki palmer was just like the way these people are hating in your comments is something vicious i'm so blown back just know you're doing everything right i've never seen so many people pressed well girl where

you live at because people pressed every day but oreo had responded they um after angela responded to kiki thanking her for always supporting her people were still criticizing like they just criticized her about her purse at the bet awards because it was a gun shaped purse and all of that maybe because she aimed it at people but oreo responded to the situation they posted a tub full of oreos angela wasn't in it but they just posted the situation. They posted a tub full of Oreos. Angela wasn't in it, but they just posted the tub and it said, imagine hating me

and I'm just at home doing this. And then they captioned, boy, we have a crush on Angela Simmons. So people might have bashed her right into a deal. I thought she already had. I don't freaking know what's going on. Now this was a vegan,

she has a vegan alternative at Pinky's restaurant. And I guess she, I don't know what the Oreos had to do with the vegan restaurant. That's why I said I was more confused about... I thought it was a vegan Oreo. Wasn't it a vegan Oreo? Oreos vegan?

Or the dish that Pinky made for Angela was vegan from what I quickly glanced at. But did it have Oreos in it? It had Oreos in it? Because Pinky is everything vegan. Vegan, right. quickly glanced at but did it have oreos in it because pinky is everything vegan right but i was confused because no um when she posted her in the tub full of oreos she didn't say anything about the about the oreos being vegan but she don't have a deal oh no no she partnered with slutty vegan to release plant-based fried oreos oh for real so that's the reason why she had it yes okay well

they yeah they weren't fried she was just oh yeah she was eating it she was eating it yep she was eating it but i thought it was just a sexy pic she did for her man that's all i thought it was i didn't read the caption you know i just thought it was a sexy pic she did for her man that's all i can't believe that we are that people are upset about this if everything if everything causes outrage then nothing is outrageous and at some point we have to realize this is what social media does. This is what social media is about. You got a bunch of people on social media who clearly aren't doing as much as the people that they constantly are talking about. This should not offend you in no way, shape, or form.

Wait till Charlamagne's picture comes out with all them hot dogs in the tub. Let's see how people react at that point. That's never going to happen. That's never going to happen. I don't even know why your mind works that way. You're gay. DD he defends his decisions so earlier this week this man gave his six month old a lineup he well he didn't give it to him himself he got the barber to come out and line up his six year olds i mean six month old son halo who i think is so cute just like his mother and um of course people reacted um you know saying things like bro gonna push his natural hairline back that's

cute but I think it's too early to give him a baby hair to give the baby a haircut which I do agree with but people was even going as far as saying like he should be canceled no I mean that's just too much but this is what happened when you put your baby right everybody online I, I understand why Haley wanted to keep the baby unseen for so long. I mean, like, internet is not what it used to be. That's his child. I understand that. You know?

But you just got to be ready for all of that. This is what he said in response to seeing people outraged about it. Yeah, I don't know. I don't even say because I got my son to line up at six months. Listen, y'all, y'all worry about y'all own kids. He came out of mom's, not yours. Worry about your own baby. Worry about your daddy.

Why your daddy couldn't afford to get you a haircut? Let me be a happy dad. Y'all so used to black men being unpresent fathers. So y'all not used to seeing a present father. So y'all got something bad to say. Elephant in the room, y'all see ain't no other race said anything bad. Why do we do this to each other? Why we always got to fight each other?

Instead, you should have just said it's lying and it's crispy because it is. But today I'm going to teach them how to drive. Salute to DDG. How do we know what race it is online though? By the way, nowadays, how do we even know we talking to real people? They might be bots. You can't really be upset at people when they have those kinds of opinions,

especially when you make those type of things public, as you said, Jess. When you put those things out there to the public, people are going to have a reaction to it. You open it up for people to comment. You can't mind that. Like you said, I wouldn't do that for my son, son but that's his son he raises his son the way he wants to raise his son i you know i mean we all parent different what's the problem now right now if you

want your child to look like me because it's the reason i have a bald head because of early early hairline pushbacks okay i had a cousin who used to practice on my head and he's a barber now my cousin Dante in Mouse Corner that's kind of why my hairline has been terrible for a long time blame it on your cousin when we were young he was practicing on me and technically DDG's son is your cousin too

he is, that's true technically yes so hopefully he'll take after DDG with the hairline you gotta let your hair grow out okay Technically, yes. So hopefully he take after DDG with the hairline. You got to let your hair grow out. Okay. Well, tell your cousin that. I could grow my hair out now if I wanted to. No, you can't.

No, I could. I wouldn't have no edges. But I could grow it out. Like, it'd be no hairline, no edges, but I could grow it out if I wanted to. Okay. My hair grows everywhere else. Just not the hairline part. TMI.

All right. Thank you. That's just. That's TMI. I'm talking about my scalp. Well, you extra gay this morning and I don't understand why. Little freaky ass nigga. What's wrong with you?

What's wrong with this man this morning? My hair grows everywhere else. Everywhere else. I'm clearly talking about my head. Yeah, like he got thick brows, you know, a little mustache. That's right. The way that face hair be growing in. I mean, letting the greys breathe right now.

Okay. You know what I mean? All right. All right. Well, thank you for that, Jess with the mess. When we come back, the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer, will be joining us. She has a new book, True Gretch, What I've Learned About Life, Leadership, and Everything in Between.

Well, Morgan's joining us first for Front Page News. Oh, shoot. Yes, right. Morgan next, and then the governor of michigan so don't move it's the breakfast club good morning wake up wake up you're locked into the breakfast club morning everybody it's dj envy just hilarious y'all i mean the guy we are the breakfast club let's get in some front page news hey morgan hey y'all hey did y'all hear about the Federal Reserve? No. Oh, you.

So the Federal Reserve says high inflation isn't the only risk the economy faces. Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell recently told Congress that the economy is trending upwards, but he wants to see more evidence inflation is cooling before cutting interest rates. Let's hear more from Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell. Inflation has eased notably over the past couple of years, but remains above the Federal Open Market Committee's longer-run goal of 2%. Over the past two years, the economy has made considerable progress toward the Fed's 2% inflation goal, and labor market conditions have cooled while remaining strong. Reflecting these developments, the risks to achieving our employment and inflation goals are coming into better balance. Recent indicators suggest that the U.S. economy continues to expand at a solid pace. Gross

domestic product growth appears to have moderated in the first half of this year, following impressive strength in the second half of last year. Yeah, so inflation obviously has been a hot topic. Powell goes on to add that waiting too long to cut rates could hurt the economy and the labor market. He also said new numbers showing unemployment rising slightly might prompt rates to be cut sooner, but the Federal Reserve will need to examine more economic data before making a rate cut decision. There's more happening in Congress. You might like this one charlemagne look alive uh new york congresswoman alexandria acacia cortez is filing articles of impeachment against supreme court justices clarence thomas and samuel alito the articles cite the failure of the

justices to disclose gifts from individuals with businesses before the court as well as their refusal to recuse themselves from cases they or their family members have close ties to. Now, Ocasio-Cortez, in a statement, told Congress, said Congress has a legal, moral, and democratic obligation to impeach. Democrats have rallied against the Supreme Court following a series of rulings and ethics controversies involving Justices Thomas and Alito. I know for sure that for more than 20 years, Justice Thomas has accepted millions of dollars worth of gifts, I will say, from donors like Harlan Crowe, to which Harlan Crowe calls, quote, extending hospitality. What are your thoughts on that, Charlemagne?

That's exactly what you're saying. Yeah, I wonder how that's going to impact them. I mean, because they've already made it to where, you know, state and local officials can take bribesribes clearly they changed the rules for themselves but i am glad that you know aoc is doing something i feel it's good that somebody on the hill is focused on what they need to be focused on because as i keep saying the supreme court is no longer a legitimate institution the supreme court is beyond corrupt and the white house should be saying it over and over everybody with a platform should be saying it over and over and And I understand when you're trapped under an avalanche,

it's a bunch of different rocks that can kill you. So we want to talk about Trump and Project 2025. But the illegitimate institution that is the Supreme Court has already impacted. It is impacting right now. From Roe v. Wade being abolished, to them saying state and local officials can take bribes, to granting immunity to presidents so they are above the law and can commit crimes as long as they're official acts.

That's not democracy, y'all. That's not democracy. So I'm glad AOC is bringing it to them. Yeah, you know who else is doing something? Google. Google is planning to make its dark web monitoring service free for every Google account holder later this month. Now, Google One subscribers have already had access to the service for about a year now. Google says the move reflects a dedication to help users protect their online presence.

This is what I was talking about earlier, protecting your online presence, not those other things you guys were talking about. So monitoring for dark web leaks of things like phone numbers, addresses, and stolen account information. So for those who don't know, the dark web is the hidden part of the Internet that allows people to hide their identity and location from others and law enforcement. Basically, we're cyber criminals do their thing. But now it'll be open to just about everybody. Anyone who uses Google or has a Google account.

What about that? I love that. I'll be able to go check and see if anything that I have is compromised, right? I're like i don't know i don't know how any of this works i'm gonna be honest with you i have no idea how the internet works anymore i really don't but you're still it's still it's always gonna be something like that you get what i'm saying like oh this was i think something like this was happening last year and they still it's always somebody that can hack into you somewhere because you got gmail or an iphone like yeah you're absolutely right i don't know how many emails or texts that you guys got that if you know

you went to a business or you paid with a credit card and then later on they send your email just want to let you know that our system was hacked and your information could be published like i see that all the time so yeah and i don't think we realize how how big our individual digital footprints are i'm 46 years old i've been on social media since the myspace days days yeah so i did you know i'm saying like there's so much of our information that's just floating around online you know i don't i don't i like i said i don't even know how the internet works anymore. But it even makes it...

So you feel like Pandora's box is open. It's just kind of like, it is what it is. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Like even, I got a... I keep getting this one guy's credit card to my house, right? And every time I call the credit card company and tell them that the person doesn't live there,

that it feels like a fake credit card, they tell me there's nothing that they can do. But they keep sending this guy's credit card. I't even know but it's my address so what i'm thinking is somebody filled out a credit card and was gonna try to go in the box and take it out before i get it but it's like but every time i call the credit card company tell them like hey can you take this can you check this account this doesn't live here they said there's nothing they can do whoever that person is they should be glad that that credit card is going to a Dominican household and not a Nigerian household.

Because I promise you, if a Nigerian household was getting a hold of that credit card, oh my God. Oh my goodness. Christmas would be up this year. You hear me? Please stop playing with my cousin.

All right. We got time for one more or nah? No. Okay, well, that's cool. Well, that's your Front Page News. I'm Morgan Wood. Follow me on social at Morgan Media. And for news coverage

follow at Black Information Network and check us out at BINews.com I was going to say Shrek is coming back y'all Morgan said you ain't got to start

playing the music I'm wrapping up my acceptance speech right now damn well the governor of Michigan will be joining us next

Gretchen Whitmer she has a new book True Gretsch. What I've learned about life, leadership, and everything in between. So, Gretchen Whitmer, when we come back, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody.

It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. We have the governor, Gretchen Whitmer. Welcome. How you feeling? I'm feeling good. You feeling good? Would you like some tequila this morning or are you too early? You know,

good tequila is fine any time of day, but I'm not going to start my day out that way today. I don't know if she wants it because she can't keep it down. She keeps her head back out. That was why I swiped her on since then. Has that stuck with you your whole life? Like that one story and everybody always talks about that one thing?

Well, you know, obviously what you're talking about is I drank too much when I was in high school. And you shouldn't have been drinking at that young age anyway. But I got caught drinking at a high school football game. I was passed out. My principal came upon me and I tossed my cookies on him. And, you know, it was kind of a notorious thing at the time. Everyone in school knew what happened. I got suspended.

I got in big trouble. My mother wanted to kill me. But, you know, I tell that story in my book because it was that moment where I screwed up, but I learned a lot. As a mom, what do you tell your kids, right? Because your kids are going to make mistakes, right? You have two daughters. Yep. And all I would say if I was your daughter is, Mom, what about you in high school?

So what do you tell your kids? Well, that's why i didn't tell them till after they were out of high school but you know you know i mean we're all human and we gotta see the humanity in one another we all fall short on occasion we gotta hope that you learn from from those times and um i think that's what i've tried to instill in my own kids they've made their own mistakes but you know what fortunately Fortunately for my generation, we didn't all have cell phones. We weren't all recording it. It wasn't something that you had a receipt

that you had to carry with you the rest of your life. And that's one of the things I try to encourage my kids to give other people grace, give yourself a little grace and put that damn phone down. I also like that you kept your book, True Gretch, what I've learned about life leadership and everything in between.

I like that you kept it short and it'sretch, what I've learned about life, leadership and everything in between. I like that you kept it short and it's an easy read. Did you do that on purpose? Yeah. You know, one of the things that I get asked the most, whether I'm traveling across Michigan or outside of Michigan, is how do I stay positive? You know, I ran for reelection and a lot of people said, why do you want to keep doing this? You know, in my first term, I dealt with a pandemic, a president who targeted me, a plot to kidnap and kill me. 28 recall attempts. Dealt with flooding in Midland that wiped out dams and bridges.

We had to evacuate 10,000 people in the middle of the night in the middle of a pandemic. Dealt with all the hate that came my way. And it was an understandable question. You know, rational people said, why do you want to keep doing this? And so this book really is that. It is kind of a handbook. 10 things I've learned in my life at different times in my life that I have used in situations that I've had to navigate as governor. And, you know, I want to give people, maybe you can get a laugh at my expense about the drinking or knocking my teeth out. I talk about that in the book, too. Maybe there's a lesson that'll give someone some inspiration when they're navigating a hard time, whether it's in the workplace or in their private life.

Or maybe it's just a little light reading. And what I know is a heavy time for a lot of folks um all of us right and so that's really what it's about trying to put a little light out in the world in a in a damn dark time why would you ever release a book during a presidential election like it's got to be a very awkward time especially now with everybody talking about wanting Biden to step down it has to be a very awkward time well obviously when you write a book you have no idea what is going to be happening by the time that book comes out um you knew it was going to be a presidential election. I did. I did. And that's why I wrote it, because I knew this was going to be heavy time.

I knew it was going to be hard. You knew the matchup was going to be Donald Trump and Joe Biden again. And I thought, you know, people are going to want some some encouragement. And that's what I what I try to spread. Did you speak with Biden before his debate? Right. Because you talk about your previous debates and how you were you were loose. loose. People looked at you as an ordinary person. They felt relatable. But I think sometimes people don't see that with Biden. Did you have those conversations with him to be like, loosen up a little bit? Or did you have those conversations? Any pep talks? I didn't. And, you know, in retrospect, maybe, you know, that was a missed opportunity on my part. I tell the story in the

book, you know, I was running for governor the first time in 2000. And Emily's List, a great organization that helps women candidates, sent a debate coach to come talk with me. And he gave me a lot of good pointers. But one of the things he said was, the happy warrior wins every debate. Whoever looks like they're having the most fun is the winner, no matter what people say. And I thought it was interesting. So I was thinking, what's going to put me in the happy warrior frame of mind? So a couple weeks before the first debate, we went to

go see Kevin Hart. And Nayim Lin gave this great observation that women are a lot more bold today. Who's Nayim? Back in the day, if a woman was... hey what's up this is ramses job and i go by the name q ward and we'd like you to join us each week for our show civic

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Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. ...restraining. She'd be real shy about talking about it. You'd say, come on, I want to come over and get together. And she'd say, oh, you know, my aunt's in town, like Aunt Flo, right? He said, today when you say I want to come over and see you, and it's that time of month, the woman would say,

you're not coming over? It's Shark Week, mother****. And I thought that was the funniest. So I went in and wrote that at the top of my paper, SW, MF. And that kept me loose and funny. And my colleague was all buttoned up. And he said, oh, you know, I'm Bill Schuette on duty. And I said, welcome to Shark Week.

And it just kept me loose and happy. And I got caught on a hot mic mouthing the word mother****. And it was during the Democratic National Convention. And I was just off beside myself that someone sent out that footage because it was virtual four years ago. Like I always wonder how much prep is too much prep because I always say the language of politics is dead. So if that is how you talk, why can you not communicate like that? Because that's how most of America speaks. I think you're right. I think you're right.

And so like my first. My initial reaction was, oh man, this came out. You didn't say oh man, you said oh s***. I did. It came out and this is what people are going to focus on instead of what I said. I worked hard on that speech. I wanted people to hear what I said and I thought, oh geez.

But we embraced it. You know what? People did too. People started showing up. They make candles that say Shark Week, mother****. They got t-shirts, you know. And I thought, you're right. This is how people talk. It resonated with people, and it turned out to be a really funny episode. And that's maybe the lesson, right?

You've got to be the happy warrior. You talked about your hair. Why didn't your grandma want you to part your hair down the middle? Beats the hell out of me. And I said, don't take that piece of advice. But work hard. Wait to get married a little later in life. I think those are good pieces of advice.

Yeah, she gave you three pieces of advice. What was it? Don't put your head down the middle. Work hard. Work hard. And don't get married until you're at least 28. Yeah. Yes.

Yeah, I think those were good pieces of advice. Did you follow them all? I did. You know, I'm a hard worker. I know that I'm raised in a state that, you know, we're full of people that work hard. Michiganders have got grit. And I think that that's, you know, part of the title, right? True grit.

It's true grudge. But it's a play off that because I think grit is what really defines my philosophy and who the people in Michigan are. We work hard. We show up. We expect a fair shake. And I think that's what has centered a lot of the work that I do. And, you know, like so many people, I was lucky to have two great, phenomenal grandmothers who really had a massive impact on my life. Nino, my dad's mom, Esther, that's my middle name, Gretchen Esther. She was raised on a farm in rural Ohio. She was at the age in her late 90s was lobbying people in her church to vote for Barack Obama. She was ahead of her time and in so many ways, a strong feminist. And she taught me a

lot. But trying to find the good in every situation and every person was something that she imparted on us. And she was the one who said, even the meanest person in the world might have pretty eyes. Try to find the good. And that's something that I have found has been a real important lesson for me to have in the back of my head through all the crazy stuff that I've had to navigate. Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. What's the good in Donald Trump? Your grandmother said, find the good in everybody. Well, you know what?

The one thing I can say about Donald Trump is he can read public sentiment. He doesn't know how to fix anything. He doesn't know how to do the job of president. He treats people with disrespect and and you know he teaches people to hate and you know there are a lot of downsides but he can read what's going on with people and he can feed into it and feed off of it and i think that that's that's a talent does he use it for good hell no but but that is something that he does well all right we got more with the governor of michigan gretchen whitmer when we come back so don't move it's the breakfast club morning everybody it's dj nv jess larry

charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we're still kicking it with the governor of michigan gretchen whitmer thank you i'm glad to be here now i got a question what made you want to get into politics what was the thing that says this is what i want to do yeah it really was um the first time around was you know i, I was practicing law. I had worked for the House Democrats. In Michigan, we had a tie in our state house, 55 Democrats and 55 Republicans, when I worked there, which was the only time it's ever happened in Michigan. And they had to work together.

And that's when I cut my teeth in politics. I really got to see maybe the best in what government can be. But I kind of looked at the field of people, and I thought, man, I can do as good a job as any of these yahoos. So I decided to throw my hat in the race and I've won every election since. But the Flint water crisis became known. And just to refresh everyone's memory, Flint is a predominantly black city. It was a thriving city for many decades when General Motors had a huge presence there. As the company took resources out of Flint, you know, poverty grew and it was a city that didn't have a whole lot of support in state government. And at a time when budgets were tight,

my predecessor appointed a emergency manager who went in and made catastrophic decisions not to treat the water. And the people in Flint got a lot of lead poisoning in their water. That became public, and that really was what drove me to want to run for governor. The people of Flint deserve better. They need a governor who is going to make this right. And I looked at who was talking about running. I thought, you know what? I know how to do it. I'm going to get in this race. Donald Trump had just carried Michigan. 11,000 vote difference between him and Hillary Clinton in 16. And I

thought, I got to get organized. I got to get all across the state. And I spent two years campaigning in all 83 counties. I showed up in places Democrats write off often and I won. And so many lessons from what happened around the Flint water crisis has driven the work that I've done to try to make it right, to ensure other communities don't have a catastrophe like they had in Flint.

We've made great strides. I'm proud of the work that we've done, but there's a lot more work to do. Is the water fixed in Flint? Yeah, so almost every pipe has been replaced. The ones that haven't, they had a hard time getting contact with homeowners that maybe don't but there's a lot more work to do is the water fixed in Flint yeah so almost every pipe has been replaced the ones that haven't they had a hard time getting contact with homeowners that maybe don't live there anymore so yes though the water is clean we've got we've expanded resources for nutrition for Flint kids because we know to address lead poisoning that that's a very crucial component we just started what we call RX Kids, which is monetary support for expectant mothers and babies.

This is direct dollars into the household that was driven by Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha, who was the doctor that discovered the Flint lead crisis. So we've done a lot of really creative things. We're continuing to invest in Flint. And crazy to say, but in Michigan, we've got a great public park system, great state park system. The only county in Michigan that didn't have a state park was Genesee County, which is where Flint is.

We've created a state park there, made great investment in downtown Flint so that people can have the kind of amenities that they expect everywhere else in the state finally you know you've done uh you've done some things in michigan that i i want to highlight because i think they're great when you said some things like you once said uh you declared racism as a public health crisis you required all medical professionals to undergo unconscious bias training to improve health care and target disparities is the unconscious bias training something that's going to transcend past health care? Because I feel like that should be in law enforcement. That should be in the banking system. I feel like that should be in schooling. I feel like that should be in so many different spaces. Absolutely. We require all state employees

to go through it. So whether you're working with people in the health care space or in law enforcement or anywhere for that matter, it's important to recognize we all bring bias. Like we're human beings with lived experiences that inform how we act. If we're cognizant of it, we can do better. But if we're not talking about it, not thinking about it, not examining it, we aren't going to change anything. And so that training, I think, is really important. I went through the training just like everyone on my staff and throughout state government did. And I think more workplaces should require it because it's just an honest assessment of who we are and it's how we grow. And I like to think most people want to do better, but we can't expect them to do better if they don't know better. That's right.

And it's another thing that you do that I like. And Governor Shapiro has a version of it in Pennsylvania, but it's the Clean Slate Bill and the Clean Slate for Kids that you signed. What is that about? I'll tell you. One of the days that will live with me for the rest of my life was, you know, we've changed the laws in Michigan so that people can get their records expunged. We made sure that people that were, you know, sentenced or did time for marijuana offenses don't have that on their record anymore. It's now legal in michigan so you shouldn't have to carry that with you and so we've made big strides there's always more

work to do but our bail reform you're not sitting in jail because you don't have some money in your pocket for a you know a civil infraction we've made a lot of great policy changes and we've helped a lot of people get another opportunity which is everyone deserves that now let me ask a question i know you're here to promote your book but i wanted to ask you a question a lot of people get another opportunity, which is everyone deserves that. Let me ask you a question. I know you're here to promote your book, but I wanted to ask you a question. A lot of people are not necessarily confident in Joe Biden right now. They don't know if they should go out and vote at all. Maybe they're looking. People are thinking right now maybe it's the lesser of two evils. What do you say to those individuals that are not a thousand percent confident in Biden?

Maybe think Biden is too old. Maybe think that he doesn't have early signs of dementia. What do you say to those people? Well, I'll start with this. You know, we all watched that debate and, you know, it was bad. I mean, that's an understatement. It was really bad. Horrible. And it shook a lot of people and people are asking questions. And you know what? I don't have a problem with that. You should ask questions. You should demand that your leaders are up to the job. I believe that Joe Biden is. And he's a fighter. He's ready to go.

He had a bad night. He'd be the first to admit it. It was terrible. Yet here we are. We've got a choice between an affirmative vote for Joe Biden or anything else is a vote for Donald Trump. And a second Trump presidency will be devastating. Second Trump presidency will take us further down the line of taking away

individual rights of, you know, a worse and more intolerant nation with bigger discrepancies in income. I'm unwavering in my support of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. I think that they are great leaders. We're fortunate to have them. They've got the receipts and they got a plan for the next four years. The other guy represents a real clear and present danger and i often feel like uh y'all should be offended and the reason i say y'all should be offended because people will say is this the best america has to offer it's just the best the democratic party has to offer and biden and it does kind of like you know make yourself and the west moors and the shapiros and the buddha judges and the VP look like, damn, they're all better to me than the current leader of the party. Well, all these people we're going to see do incredible things

for the short term and the long term. So we're fortunate in that one. I understand that sentiment. And I got kids that are 22 and 20, and they're not as excited as I would love for them to be. And yet I know they're 22 and 20 and they're not as excited as i you know would love for them to be and yet i know they're going to vote because they understand their rights to make their own decisions about their bodies their ability to get housing after they graduate from college and try to get you know an affordable place to live that is on their minds their ability

to you know live a long life in a climate that can sustain humanity, right? Gun violence. This generation has grown up doing mass shooting drills. We can't even appreciate what kind of trauma that's inflicted on this generation. They are engaged in a way that we weren't. And so the fact that maybe Joe Biden doesn't resonate as well with every voter that's out there, I think that every voter can see a voice, a person that is a part of this effort that does's out there. I think that every voter can see a voice, a person that is a part of this effort that does, though. And I think that that kind of Avenger-style campaign and leadership has got to be a part of how we go forward. I've been saying that I would rather see his surrogates out there. Do you want to see him

debate again? Do you think he should debate again? I don't know. It doesn't seem as though people go into debates with open minds these days. I do agree with you that having surrogates out there is powerful and incredibly helpful. And I know, you know, a lot of my colleagues and standard bears for the party are going to be descending into Michigan. And I'm excited about that because I want people to see, you know, I want people to get to know all of these leaders that are doing the work and that are part of the work that president biden has gotten done i want them to hear from them too all right keep it locked we got more with the governor of michigan gretchen whitmer it's the breakfast club good morning morning everybody it's dj nv jess larry charlemagne the guy we are the breakfast club we're still kicking it with the governor of michigan gretchen whitmer charlemagne you know uh just talk about mission because it's a huge battleground state over a hundred thousand primary voters voters cast uncommitted votes back in February because of the Biden's administration's

funding of the Israel military and the war on Palestine. Does that concern you about how Michigan will turn out in November? Yeah, of course it does. You know, the great story of Michigan is that we are the place people came to from around the world for opportunity. And because of that, we got a richly diverse population, right? People came from the South for a job on the line. People came from Lebanon for a job on the line. People came from Holland for a job in the muck fields on the west side of the state, or from Finland for a job in mining in the Upper Peninsula. I mean, we're a very diverse state, and it's a great strength. It also is made up of communities, all of these communities,

that I've been able to count on as a part of the coalition that's always supported my candidacy for office, and I'm grateful for that. Everyone's hurting right now. That's the only universal truth. Our Jewish community is in pain. We've seen the rise of anti-Semitism, the horrors of October 7th, the hostages that still haven't been released. I understand the pain and that people are feeling checked out and unheard. That's why the listening part is so important. That's why I say listening is a superpower in my book. And I think that's something that Biden does better than Trump does. He's an

empathetic guy who actually cares about people. What would your message be to the Muslim Arab community in Michigan in regard to supporting President Biden come November? Because 50,000 innocent people killed is tough to see. Oh, yeah. No, it's horrific. Women and children. Yeah. And men too. I know everyone points to women

and children, but there are a lot of innocent men who've lost their lives too. I mean, it is horrific. And yet, if we want to have a leader of the free world who sees that who cares about leading a for a two-state solution who's never going to campaign on like a muslim ban or child separation at the border for brown families coming into this country i mean that's joe biden there's no question who the better leader is on on all of these issues and it's joe biden there's no question who the better leader is on on all of these issues and it's joe biden you know uh chapter nine you talk about owning your screw-ups and forgiving others for theirs and uh i read where you wanted to actually meet

with someone from the far-right militia that plotted to kidnap and assassinate you yeah i don't know if my forgiveness worked yeah why i wouldn't want to have that conversation like it was well you know what do you hope to gain when i wrote that i didn't know if my forgiveness worked that way. Yeah, why? That's a little crazy. I wouldn't want to have that conversation. What do you hope to gain? When I wrote that, I didn't know it would get such a strong reaction, but it has. So you're in the majority. I'm in the majority on this one. They're trying to kidnap you and kill you. What do you hope to gain from this?

There were 12 to 14 guys who were out there planning for months to kidnap and then hold a sham trial and execute me. That was their plan. And they had a kill house. They went through all these exercises to practice that text messages are horrific. Fortunately, law enforcement had infiltrated. They had an informer and they were able to keep it from happening. And I'm grateful for that. Have you forgiven them yet?

Yeah. Really? Yeah. How does the forgiveness thing work in regards to like politicians? Like, can you can you forgive Trump for leading an attempted coup in this country? Can you give the Supreme Court for a boxing role? Be way. Does that forgiveness work that way, too?

Well, I think if if you own it. Yeah. I think if you say, you know, you have you have learned or you regret, then yeah, I think you can forgive. Did you hear G-Mac Cash's song about you, Big Gritch? Oh man, I love G-Mac Cash. He sent me an email yesterday. He said, good luck on GMA. I'm rooting for you, bestie.

We're not best friends, but I like to think that we're very good friends. How did you feel when you heard the record and who put you onto it? Okay, so first it started with the nickname Big Gretch. Big Gretch. Big Gretch. So, you know, first of all, I'm named after my two grandmas, Gretchen and Esther.

They're both in the book. But Grandma Gretchen always said, don't ever let anyone call you Gretch. Your name is Gretchen. So I've always had an aversion to being called Gretch. I don't know many women that want Big in the front of their nickname. Am I right? Big Gretch. Well, it depends. You know, if in the front of their nickname. Am I right? Big Gretch. Well, it depends.

You know, if you're heavy set, we say you got a big back. But Big can mean like position as well. Yeah. Like, yeah. Well, it's all good now. But, you know,

when I first heard the name Big Gretch, I'm like, oh, Lord, what is happening here? But then G-Mac made it into the rap song and I just love it. I think Big Gretch

has become this nickname I never knew that I needed. It was given to me. Trump was kicking my butt. He was making my life miserable. I was getting all sorts of threats and ugliness and this happened at a time where I really appreciated the boost and everywhere I go, especially in Detroit, I'm Big Grudge. Why aren't people saying the Supreme Court is no longer a legitimate institution? Why aren't folks calling them out for their corruption? I was raised by two public servants who also were lawyers, though, and who revered the judicial system, that it was the check on government, that it was above the politics of the day. We saw that over the years where decisions came out, even if you didn't agree with them, you respected them because they were grounded in some interpretation of the Constitution, not a political agenda. And yet what we've seen now, Trump remade the Supreme Court. Three appointees who lied to Congress

about Roe v. Wade and went on and just eviscerated women's reproductive freedom. That is on this ballot. A majority now who has said that a president has this vast immunity now that the law doesn't apply to the person who we elect as our president. It is scary. and they are terribly frustrating to have all the presumptions i was raised to believe that

you could count on that court thrown into the garbage in a dumpster and it's a real problem and i'm glad to see you know some folks in congress are taking it seriously but man we need a better mechanism to hold them accountable do you still think it's a legitimate institution, the Supreme Court? I think that they have bastardized it. I hate to say it. You shouldn't. It's the truth. Yeah. I hate the fact of it. You know, we deserve better.

And those justices took an oath. And, man, it's just horrible to see that not even they're holding it up. Last question. When you see people from Michigan or Detroit, do you greet them with what up, though? Yeah, absolutely. That's how we greet one another. What up, though? Well, 42 Doug is here how we greet one another. What up, though? Well, 42 Doug is here,

so you'll be able to say that to him. Excellent. You'll probably see him in the hallway. All right. Well, it's the Governor Gretchen Whitmer.

We appreciate you for joining us. Thank you so much. Governor of Michigan, pleasure. Make sure you go get her new book, True Gretch,

What I've Learned About Life, Leadership, and Everything in Between. And don't be a stranger. All right. We're on a lot of stations in Michigan. Michigan, yes.

I know. I'll come back. Please do. All right. Thank you. It's of stations in Michigan. I know. I'll come back. Please do. All right. Thank you. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody.

It's DJ Envy. Jess Hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Yeah. Salute to Gretchen Whitmer for pulling up the governor of Michigan. It's a shame Democrats have all those charismatic, way more talented politicians than Joe Biden.

Yet here we are. Yeah. Maybe not for long. Hey hey what's up this is ramses job and i go by the name q ward and we'd like you to join us each week for our show civic cipher that's right we're going to discuss social issues especially those that affect black and brown people but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies think of it as a black show for non-black people we discuss everything from prejudice to to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. Exactly. Whether you're black, Asian, white,

Latinx, indigenous, LGBTQIA+, you name it. If you stand with us, then we stand with you. Let's discuss the stories and conduct the interviews that will help us create a more empathetic, accountable, and equitable America. You are all our brothers and sisters, and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, well, salute to her and shout to everybody out in Michigan and Detroit. What up, doe? And let's get to Jess with the mess. News is real. Weathers is real. Lions, Jessica Robin Moore.

Jess don't do no lying. Jess don't do no lying. She don't spare nobody. Worldwide Jess. Worldwide mess. On The Breakfast Club. She's a coach of shit. Worldwide jets Worldwide matches On the breakfast club She's a coach and shit She was able to get y'all to see something

And understand something That nobody could get you to see It's time to set it all So remember when Will Smith met Chris At the Oscars Yes How could we forget I don't think anybody ever forget that

In his lifetime Right I didn't know that they was trying to ban him for 10 years from the Oscars. Yeah, they did. Yeah. Well, I didn't know that they did that, but he reportedly wants the Oscars ban lifted. And I was saying, right, I was like, damn. So they banned him from the Oscars.

And that's why he was at BET. BET Awards. Oh, no, it's two different type of award shows i think we forget that uh will smith is also a rapper a musician as well the oscars is for acting so he would have been at the bt awards regardless when's the last time we said no when's the last time we saw him there i haven't seen him he hosted it back in the day with jada yeah him and jada that was years and years and years ago but then that that's just something i put together i just was like okay so now we're gonna come and sing gospel at the bc all right that's cool all right anyway but um now we're still as close to will smith is saying that

will is using the success of his films and their track record of bringing money to the industry to attempt to get the band lifted um the source said will is selling tickets and putting butts in seats at a time uh when whole business is struggling the whole business is struggling that counts for a lot will is a sinner but sinners can be forgiven and he's trying he's driving a lot of business right now against all odds uh there are still people in academy who think Will should have been arrested for what he did. That's a big jump. The big change this summer is that the fans have spoken and that they want Will to keep being a big movie star. The source did.

They did note that they said that Chris Rock is still upset about it with reason. But they said that it'll be a better chance for them to lift the band if will and chris come together and do something publicly like sit down and have a conversation or something or but would you care if you will i mean because he's putting asses in the seats and and the movies are actually good so yeah would you care i mean he's he's getting the support of the people well i would hope that he's not begging those white people to come back to the oscars of course he's gonna care because he got got a production company and he makes movies. And he doesn't want to be the reason that his movies probably don't get nominated for Oscars and stuff like that.

It's not something that we need. Like, oh no, he got to do this. But I would like to see a conversation. You know what I'm saying? Not like he owes it to us. Because he only owe it to Chris. Right. Even if the conversation ain't publicized.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I would love to know that they did bury the hatchet. They did talk about it. And you know what I mean? Because apparently they still haven't spoken. You know what I'm saying? I really, here's the thing, though. What do y'all want Chris Rock to talk to Will Smith about?

You smack me in my face publicly on TV. I ain't never forgiven you. And if I do forgive you in my heart, cool. But I might not ever forgive you publicly. And that's fine. That's perfectly okay. Yeah, I agree. But like I said, I think that it's just because they were cool.

Like, I just say that because of their history. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. Black comedians, like, they were, yeah, they were cool. Like, before. So, that's what I'm saying. But anyway, most stressful cities, according to a website called Wallet Hub, Cleveland, Ohio, is the most stressful city in the country. I don't know, like, how you, like, how, who comes up with these lists, yo?

This is crazy they got their ranking by comparing key metrics in more than 180 cities like average weekly work hours unemployment rate divorce and suicide rates and the full top five most stressful cities cleveland ohio number one number two is detroit michigan number three is baltimore merlin that's not about right no and then number four is memphis tennessee number five is gulf port mississippi gulf port mississippi huh okay i don't understand how baltimore got on in we you're not shut up no no not a little bit no what and i think they picked this story because i'm from there well another thing uh some of those cities have in common is violence right yeah high crime crime but that could probably stress people out and i'm sure uh the finances have a lot to do with it but i was surprised new york wasn't high on there because i wasn't because the finances and everybody

on wall street and the way the market is up and down i figured that would stress people out more than new york is too arrogant to be stressed out yeah you know regardless no matter what's going on no matter how hard things are they still think they better than every damn body i'm telling you facts but i never heard of gulfport mississippi being on i mean i've heard of gulfport mississippi but i wouldn't think that they would come in at number five. Right. But, yeah. All right. Well, that's just the mess because I had another story, but I'm going to just push it to the third hour.

All right. And New Yorkers be pretending a lot, too. So even when they are stressed out, they ain't going to tell nobody. They're not showing it. You know what I'm saying? Facts. Walking around here with a bunch of fake designer on, you know, driving a bunch of rented cars. Facts. You know you live there.

Canal Street Jewelry. I'm just calling it like it is. Exactly. You know? Dying their beards. Watch your mouth. You know, driving a bunch of rented cars. Facts. You know you live there. Canal Street Jewelry. I'm just calling it like it is. Exactly. You know? Dyeing their beards. Watch your mouth. You know? It was somebody run up.

Watch your mouth. You can't live there. Watch your mouth. Scressed as hell with a head full of gray hairs, but they got them all dyed, so they covering up the grays. But the Scress is underneath. Get it off your chest. I know, right?

Anything else you want to say about New York, sir? I'm just telling you. It is what it is. Well, we want to give you a to say about New York? I'm just telling you. It is what it is. Who you want to give your donkey to? Four after the owl. Another city that probably should be on that highest-crest list. Philadelphia. Okay?

There's a man named Gary Miles who needs to come to the front of the congregation. We would like to have a word with his punk-perverted ass. All right. We'll get to that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Some donkey today just saw themselves. I've been watching you, Charlamagne.

I was ready for you. Hey, donkey. I'm a donkey. I never heard of a donkey the other day. What is it? I'm a donkey. Say it again, Charlamagne. I'm a donkey.

Yes, you are a donkey. I'll show you how to act a donkey. Everything that Charlamagne is saying is true. Yes, donkey of the day for Thursday, July 11th goes to a Philadelphia man named Gary Miles. Now, I was going to do this story today

to raise awareness to this individual because it seemed like he was going to still be on the run for his crime. But a day after Philadelphia police and Meek Mill

asked for the public's help in finding this freaky ass Negro, he has turned himself in. See, this man did something very diabolical at a Dollar Tree. Sidebar, why do they still call the Dollar Tree the Dollar Tree? What the hell is a dollar in the Dollar Tree? The average price point in Dollar Tree is $1.25, and the max price of an item is $7.

Another sidebar, Jess Hilar hilarious still steals out a dollar general but that's a story for another day you got a mouthful of captain crunch you can't even reply right now okay all right let's get back to this freaky ass john named gary miles now gary miles walked into a dollar tree in southwest philly with a t-shirt on that had a picture of a candy cane with the words it's not not going to lick itself. Gary got a weird shirt. Why is he around? Okay.

Well, it could lick itself. Well, if it could lick itself, then Gary probably wouldn't have committed the crime he committed because Gary has been charged with indecent assault. Would you like to know what Gary did? Let's go to Fox 29 Philadelphia for the report, please. This just in, the man police say sexually assaulted a woman at a South Philly Dollar Tree store has turned himself in. The attack gaining national attention,

even rapper Meek Mill tweeting today that he would award $2,000 to the person who finds him. Police identified him as 35-year-old Gary Miles. His surrender happening after disturbing video circulated on social media, appearing to show the end of the assault. It happened at the store located at Snyder Plaza on East Snyder Street on June 23rd. Police say a mugshot will be released once charges are officially filed. Masturbating on a woman in idolatry is absolutely the pure definition of a cheap thrill. Now, there is a video, as you heard the the woman say that shows the end of the assault uh i'm gonna play this audio because i want you to hear the pure terror in this lady's voice so you understand why i believe

gary needs a taste of his own poison let's listen on my fucking leg you go to hell bitch oh my god never in the history of philadelphia has someone deserved to be called a nut-ass nigga more than gary miles okay of all the places to celebrate palm Sunday, you decide to do it in a dollar tree on a person. No need to bring out the caution, wet floor signs because you're perverted. Punk ass decided to ejaculate on a random woman. I totally agree with me. Mill putting a $2,000 bounty on his head top,

not to kill him, but to simply bring them to justice. Okay. And if he got roughed up in the process, so what? At some point, the community has to police the community. And if this man can go in dolletry and intentionally put homemade jerk sauce on some unsuspecting John, then he can intentionally get hands and feet put on him. Okay, you dudes be running around here doing things to women

as if these women don't have any men in their life. Women have fathers, brothers, uncles, husbands, boyfriends, friends who love them and who will beat your ass for them. Ask yourself if beating your baby maker on a stranger in a dollar tree is worth getting your ass beat for beating your baby maker on a stranger in dollar tree. Okay. You really have to give people like this a taste of their own poison. Gary needs a taste of his own poison. Gary miles needs a taste of his own poison. Seriously. Okay.

We have to start getting medieval with some of these creeps because that's the only way folks are going to learn. We say smart people learn from their own mistakes. Wise people learn from the mistakes of others. So let's instill some wisdom. I believe Gary miles should have to have a healthy diet of cock chowder while in prison okay at least okay every day for 30 days straight he should have to get some knuckle babies splashed on his leg in the same spot he did it to that poor young

lady i prefer he has to eat the baby gravy of random inmates that's what i prefer okay now we can mix it into things all right he doesn't have to eat it raw but he should be forced to see the love liquor go into his food and then he has to eat it don't feed him nothing else he will resist that first but then eventually he gonna get hungry and the penis pudding gonna be right there waiting for him when he does okay i got the whole menu for gary miles penis butter and jelly slong sandwiches. Throat yogurt. On Fridays, we're going to have happy hour from 5 to 6. All you can drink penis coladas. That is the only way folks like Gary will learn. And Gary is going to say, this isn't right. Why y'all doing this to me? Well, guess what? That's exactly what that young lady in Dollar Tree was thinking.

That's exactly how she felt. It wasn't right. Why are you doing that to her? We don't have no remorse for you, Gary. Sit down, take a sip of this. The biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw, hee-haw. You stupid mother f***er. You dumb.

That's the only way they're going to learn. That's the only way. Because you don't just go, I mean, I don't have a penis, but I'm just saying, I know it doesn't you you don't just go i mean i don't have a penis but i'm just saying i know it doesn't work like unless he's just y'all are victim blaming right now i'm just curious was he behind the eye he probably was behind an aisle looking at her and then right before completion he ran out because then he ran out right after okay because i was just like no i

don't work like that he ain't you know seeming spider-man like you know but no i'm not victim blaming i just wanted to know did she just ask the question before he decided the internet is definitely gonna say you're victim blaming well it's not about the internet it's about meek mill trying to bring this man to justice it was like he didn't say you you're a tiny man. He said, where he at right now? I'm about to come to him. He turned to himself and he said, I ain't messing with Philly.

Right, right. Well, thank you for that, Don. That's crazy. Meek Mill activated all the semen chases to go find this man. He couldn't wait to jump on that team. The cream chases. That's a whole lot. The cream chases.

The cream chases. Oh, my goodness. They found him, though. I was going to say, we picking on me. Leave me alone, man. Oh, my gosh. I be trying to be serious, man. No, you don't.

The cream chasers. No, you don't. No, you don't. Well. All right. When we come back, 4-2 Doug will be joining us. His album, Forever Us, Never Them, is out right now. We're going to talk to 4-2 Doug when we come back.

So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Nyla is with us today.

What up, Nyla? What's up? And we got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. His debut album, Forever Us, Never Them, is out right now. Ladies and gentlemen, from Detroit. What up Nala? What's up? And we got a special guest in the building. Yes indeed. His debut album Forever Us Never Them is out right now ladies and gentlemen from Detroit. What up Doe? 42 Doug. What's up brother? What's going on? How you feeling? I'm all right man taking it easy. It's not crazy to even say this is your debut album. I know. You got a whole catalog. I know. You know how I be. What's the difference between a debut album and all the other projects you've been putting out?

Like, what's the difference? I guess the label, however they do it. Like, I don't know the difference. I thought it was based on, like, the most songs. But I guess this is my first album, man. I hope y'all appreciate it. You know what I'm saying? I put hard work into it.

I did my best. Prior to this album, when you did have the single circulating, did you have a different project in mind? Yeah. When everything went down? You did? Yeah. I was going to call it Love Don't Live.

I was just making songs about stuff like that relationship stuff. What happened? You was with somebody and y'all broke up while y'all was in jail? No, we didn't break up. We just was up and down. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, and you know, that's time when we, you know, got back right. She didn't want to do the bid with you?

Yeah, yeah. No, for sure she did that. It just was like, you know. You mad you in there? Not even that, because I was going to call it that before I went to jail. And when I went to jail, her being there for me kind of scratched that. Oh, that's good. That's funny as

s***. You about to drop a diss album on the ground. No, it wasn't that. It wasn't that, man. It wasn't no diss album. It was just like a different... Was fame and just the emotion you were getting, was that stopping you from being able to give the love your partner was looking for?

I mean, I'd say like more so the lifestyle of being out in different states. You know what I'm saying? Trying to take that into consideration. It's a lot of stuff going on. You know what I'm saying? So it's like

you actually got to make that time. So somebody probably feel like you ain't making that time you know what i'm saying you like well i'm doing this i might not be doing this but i'm doing all this but i got right having a having a girlfriend while doing a bit and make doing the bit tougher right yeah hell yeah because you like what's going on like you know what i'm saying you ain't there so you like somebody might be Man, somebody gotta be there. That's what you're thinking.

But it's up to her to keep reassuring you. No, this ain't... Some girls let you know, like, look, man, as soon as you step foot in there, I'm gone. Damn. Yeah, yeah, that's how it be. But you heard all the support, though, when you were locked up. I mean, people were trying to get you out.

They were putting up money. You're talking about this one woman now. You're talking about this one woman now. You ain't talking about this one woman. But he had support because he was in there. He got to feel lonely. No, I was in a hole a lot. So either way, when I was feeling lonely, like, I couldn't talk on the phone. I couldn't, you know what I'm saying?

I just went through a lot. Why were you in a hole? Were you fighting or? No, I was like, certain jails would put me in a hole, like, just because of who I am. Like, they say it's a security risk to the compound. Like, everybody walking up on pictures. They feel like the COs. You said pictures.

What? Like, it's the club. Yeah, some s*** like that. But they like, I ain't going to say pictures. Just want to kick it. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to say pictures. Just want to kick it in.

And they be paying attention, like, to the COs getting too close. And'd be like we can't have you right you were worried about your girl your girl should have been worried about you knocking off the female ceos it sound like oh my god i want too much worried about because you know you'd be like i ain't there forever you know what i'm saying so i don't worry about nobody i just like i hope you stay on the right track that's for everybody though like even with your friend you like y'all stay focused out there you know, I hope you stay on the right track. That's for everybody, though. Like, even with your friend, you like, y'all stay focused out there. You know what I'm saying? Take care of the kids. You know what I'm saying?

You're doing what you can. You still got to take care. That's the most important thing. You still got to take care of everybody from there. Your mama, you know what I'm saying? How'd your mom feel when she heard the My Mama record off the, for us, Never Them Out? I mean, she, you you know she just rock with everything she really ain't gonna too much focus on one song she listening to everything she gonna send me a

text like you know what i'm saying this new album is hard you know what i'm saying i'm proud of you stuff like that is that her on the intro no that's my principal yeah what was the call that you gave your principal that made her come back with that so my principal she do like speaking like motivational speaking so when i was young i had went to prison like 15 and i had a warrant you know and she the only person that got me to turn myself in i'm like i ain't going in you know what i'm young you know, and she the only person that got me to turn myself in. I'm like, I ain't going in. You know what I'm saying? I'm young. You know what I'm saying?

I'm like, hell no, I ain't going in. She called. She came to my house, like, told my mama, like, look, I got a friend in the police office. You know what I'm saying? He could turn himself in. They're going to make sure they don't touch him. Like, he's going to go straight to the jail, give him a fine, and y'all can get him back out. So then that happened.

I got back out. Ended up going to prison. While I was in prison, she went to prison. The principal? Yeah. What? The trait is crazy. What?

Where'd she go to prison for? Where'd she go to prison for? I want to say, was it money lines or something like, something in between them lines. But she ended up going to prison, was it Money Lodge? Something like, something in between them lines. But she ended up going to prison. Federal prison. She, you know, when she got out, she was writing me, you know what I'm saying? Just telling me, like, I'm proud of you. Because when I got out, I started rapping.

I took off, like, kind of quick. You put money on her books? I was in jail. Oh, you was in jail at the time. Yeah, I was in jail. So, we probably got out about the same time. Anyway, we was connecting on social media. She, I'm proud of you, you know in jail that time. Yeah, I was in jail. So we probably got out about the same time. Anyway, we was connecting on social media. I'm proud of you, you know, stuff like that.

And then I end up going back to prison. And she used to just write me every week, every two weeks. Oh, so this was the last time you went to prison in 2022? Yeah. Now, when you got home, were you surprised that Detroit is now? Because I think when you got locked up in Detroit it seemed like everybody was against everybody yeah but now when I go to Detroit

I'm seeing those same people everybody partying together it seems like it's more welcoming the artists they got a taste of that money they got a taste of that money like

they don't f*** the money up yeah like once I always used to tell people like I probably would be you know feuding with somebody who probably

ain't doing as much so they really ain't got nothing to lose you know, feuding with somebody who probably ain't one doing as much. So they really ain't got nothing to lose. You know what I'm saying? Once they get a taste of that money, they like for what? Everybody like, what are we doing? Like, you know, let's get this money. Everybody feel like they're somewhere. Everybody getting their followers up. Everybody. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We're going to discuss

social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a black show for non-black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change

in your home, workplace, and social circle. Exactly. Whether you're Black, Asian, White, Latinx, Indigenous, LGBTQIA+, you name it. If you stand with us, then we stand with you. Let's discuss the stories and conduct the interviews that will help us create a more empathetic, accountable, and equitable America. You are all our brothers and sisters, and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday

with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just was telling somebody, like, somebody got to, like, be the be the next person like to go crazy like you know what I'm saying don't just let the last thing be like oh they was so close right

like you gonna go crazy you know what I'm saying I feel like there's a few of y'all now for sure it is you, Skilla Baby, Babyface Ray like it's a bunch of y'all it seem like sure getting money too you had Jeezy and you've always spoke about admiring Jeezy y'all worked seemed like sure getting money too you you had jesus and you've always spoke about admiring jesus y'all work together here on the new album the bmf record when you look at how he

evolved as a man yeah does that inspire you do you look at that and be like oh okay man yeah watching jesus bro you know jesus my favorite artist so it's like you know i just keep tabs i don't try to you know what i'm trying to be on it too to be on it too much. I just be keeping tabs, and I just be, you know, I see him dropping books. I see him trying new stuff. So, you know, I just admire him from afar, man. You know what I'm saying? That's my guy hitting my patients. I let him know, you know what I'm saying, what I got going on.

He tell me what he got going on. Oh, even Gotti, because we seen the transition from Gotti as well. Yeah, man. These boys growing up, man. Everybody, man. I'm trying up, man. Everybody, man. I'm trying to get there one day, man. Get that honey meal with them boys. All right, we got more with 4-2 Doug when we come back.

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Nyla is joining us today, and we're still kicking it with 4-2 Doug. Charlamagne? How did you feel when Gotti publicly

offered $2 million to any lawyer who could help you get out of prison? I was like, man, why ain't nobody accepting this shit, huh? For real, I'm like, man. Damn. I'm in there

looking at counselors crazy. I'm like, y'all heard what he said? You know what I'm in there looking at Counselors crazy Y'all heard what he said You know what I'm saying I wanted to get out so bad bro I mean just the fact he did that though Just the fact he did that Put me at ease It's almost over man

Why the title Forever Us Never Them I mean you know what I'm saying Like Detroit big right now You know you trying to do everything why the title forever us never them i mean you know what i'm saying like we like y'all saying like detroit big right now you know you're trying to do everything and i feel like i want to say big enough person but aware enough person like that i could say it like forever us never them let's do it us is detroit yeah yeah this is detroit this is my home with my family us is just whoever you want it to be. Forever us, never them.

It might not even be them. That's how I wanted to put it. On the intro, you talk about, well, the principal talked about probation being a trap. And then we also saw you on social media being vocal about the conditions that were going on in prison. So what's making you want to speak out about that now? Well, it was a hard time. They had me in there no microwave you gotta eat warm your food up in the shower like imagine that imagine having to use the water in the shower like even when i was complaining like they coming in

there tearing my room up getting mad i'm like how y'all mad at the conditions y'all got us living in we already in jail but how would you expect jail to be you know it's jail like don't what they tell you like don't come here it ain't gonna be a suite it ain't gonna be a hotel so i'm like you know i took that consideration are you right you're still humans though yeah they don't care i i definitely like uh the features that you got on it. Rilo. I like the record with Meek. Talk to me about that in any conversation that you guys shared. And tell them the truth what you said. Huh?

As a woman. Tell them what you didn't like. All right. I ain't really. Damn, man. You really be doing too much. Tell them what you didn't like. I think it's a song with Meek or maybe it's a song after.

But you're like. No, it's Meek. Shut up. It's Meek. It's like. Yeah, I f we that you mad we that you know when she said that i said you're gonna be really mad when you hit ducks and he don't nobody girl no more you mom your mama's i was just like right, this is a lot. That's all. I mean, we was geeked up, man. We was just in there.

You know what I'm saying? It was like one of them up-tempo beats, so I'm just in there going, like, how you mad at me, she f***ed? How you mad at me, he f***ed? You know what I'm saying? It wasn't really nothing to her, no particular girl. That's a good question. Why you mad, Nyle? I just don't love it.

I don't want to hear it. Why you want to switch it up? Why you mad at me, he f***ed? I hear what you're saying i get the bars i get it do you hate the internet man i don't say i hate it i just probably hate how it's used because it seemed like every so often they come at you about something like the last thing i saw was i don't know what they be with me you you was out playing with your daughter and they started saying you and your daughter was the same height. Yeah, like, see I don't really get too mad at that type of stuff.

I don't get mad at jokes at all. I just get mad at like the foul look. You know what I'm saying? A joke is a joke. I can take a joke. Any joke, really. Now you said that the beats in hip-hop have declined. You think producers are not making beats to a good caliber anymore? Yeah, I feel like they ain't trying. I remember we used to go to the studio. It used to take us like two, three beats. We picking a song.

And it almost probably going to be a hit. Now we in there listening for an hour, two hours. Just going to them. And it's just like, man. I feel like I did good, though. As far as my tape. I feel like I always do good you pick right one

but it took me longer than it usually take me you know what I'm saying hopefully it get better I see I see Gotti's not on the album Gotti ain't wanna Gotti ain't wanna rap no more

is Gotti done done no I want that I feel like Gotti always gonna be you know with me like he will never you know what I'm saying

like it just was I had so many other songs features bro it was hard narrowing this song He will never You know what I'm saying Like it just was I had so many Other songs Features bro It was hard Nailing this song This stuff down Cause I don't be like

Them put that many songs out Cause I be like Bro They gonna skip over These songs I'm be mad You know what I'm saying Other people probably

Be having bigger songs Than me on they tape But Dottie was telling me Like by you putting out Good music Your tape be on the charts a lot longer like you know what I'm saying so I'm like

okay I'm gonna keep that in mind I just wanna make good music instead of big songs Amen I gotta ask you cause you from Detroit did you see Skilla Baby say that most people in Detroit wouldn't say Eminem is the best rapper from Detroit? I ain't seen him say that but that's probably how they feel.

Mm-hmm. You know, Skilla Baby also said something else, and you said something earlier that made me think about it, about a Detroit rapper becoming that next, next person. Yeah. And he said he don't feel like

Detroit rappers are as consistent as they should be. You feel that way? Yeah, but, bro, I don't know if people know how hard it is to get a banger. It ain't that easy. These people try.

I feel like they dropping the music. It just ain't connecting. It just ain't a big song. They can't help it. We can't help it. You just got to do your best, man. You know what I'm saying? Keep trying, man.

If you going there with the mentality, I'm trying to make a banger, how often do you actually come out with one? Honestly, I go in there, i'm trying to make a banger how often do you actually come out with one honestly like i go in there like i'm trying to make a banger for the studio say if we all in the studio i'm trying to make a banger for y'all and hopefully it you know what i'm saying it connect with the world when you did we paid and maybach that was the mindset like let's just turn up in the studio no hell no i ain't think for sure ain't think none of that no oh wow no hell no when i made you play it i was kind of uncomfortable rapping on that type of beat because i'm so slow it just won my bounce so me and baby in there we just freestyling really you know what i'm saying so as i'm freestyling as he's freestyling we just going back and i'm like before i go broke like jack you know what i'm saying i said that he like you got to put that on there and i put that dirty

no i'm just saying it like i was just trying to say some atlanta stuff so i'm if i go broke like jack that dog like big you ever ran in the job after that no no i don't know what Jock might do. My Jock might try this s***. Jock been talking crazy on the internet, man. I'm like, bro, I ain't got no problem, bro. God damn, bro. You just rapping.

Yeah. There was a rumor, man, that you and Austin had got into a fight over a Dice game. Any truth to that? I mean, we ain't getting in no fight. I say we got into an argument. You know, the internet, fight over a dice game. Any truth to that? I mean, we didn't get into a fight. Austin, we got into an argument. You know, the internet, like, piped it. And they turned it into you got robbed.

You know how I be, man. I ain't get robbed. I'm not the type of guy that even go for that type of shit. You know, the internet, the internet, man. You know, even these people, man, they, like, play into this shit how they want to. You just got to let these people have it, man. Yeah, you in jail forever, man. Trying to prove a point.

Trying to prove who you not. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, whatever happened, man. You know what I'm saying? Y'all know who I am. You know what I'm saying? Y'all know what I'm going for. Or is there one? You and Offset.

No, I ain't with no rush and shit. I ain't got nothing against nobody, though, honestly. I do my own thing, you know what I'm saying? I'll be with who I be with. Let everybody else get off how they get off. So who would you rather run into, Offset or Young Jock? Both. Yo.

No, I'm talking this shit. 4-2-Duck, ladies and gentlemen. The album, Forever Us, Never Them. Outrider. How you answer that one? You guys crazy. We appreciate you for joining us, brother. Appreciate y'all, man.

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It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's get to Jess with the mess. News is real, brother. Jess Hilarious, Jess Hilarious, Jess don't do no lies. Don't do no lies. She don't spare nobody. Okay, so the tension between Portia and soon-to-be ex-husband I hope so they can stop going back and forth Simon well badia is thick

like the tension is real thick so in the latest antics Simon reportedly submit a court filing demanding that Portia answer several questions and to confirm or deny over 40 different allegations right the one that stands out most is Simon wants Portia to clarify the nature of her relationship with future now I never heard anything about Portia in future ever but maybe Simon knows something that we don't know um anyway shortly after the information of Simon's filing started circulating Portia went on a very random and subliminal rant about erectile dysfunction on her Instagram. She had posted to her story without saying any names. She posted the definition of ED and the symptoms that comes with it.

And she also shared the way men feel when they experience ED, which I'm not sure how she would know that. It says, how does a man feel when he has ed it is common for men with ed to feel anger frustration sadness or lack confidence however the condition can be treated and so she hashtag men's health awareness um she never actually said simon's name but obviously he felt attacked he knew really or he just

he thought yeah he thought it was about him I just thought Portia was posting a lot of interesting helpful stats about erectile dysfunction because you know June was men's health men's health month

but we in July but yeah no we in July I know but she was just saying June had just passed so she wanted to give some helpful tips I thought the tips were helpful for anybody who may be dealing with it

damn well we don't know because Portia is the same person who think it's 265 days in the year so maybe she still think we in june we don't know but she could have been posting helpful tips i don't know we just going wrong with that but he went to his social media and said the next narrative has arrived erectile dysfunction uh hashtag wife for streets. And then he also posted the narrative changed from imminent deportation and fleeing the country to Dubai to broke and selling luxury cars. Waiting for the next narrative. Story keeps changing. He threatened to take legal action against her in the caption of the post.

He said this railroad 265 day just does not get it. These are consequences. There are consequences for making inflammatory and defamatory statements. Get your coins together because you're going to need every dime to defend what's coming. A woman that has a history of coming for the manhood of every ex, peddling same old narratives and tricks. Unfortunately, you met the right one. So he's saying a real like yeah if i was simon i wouldn't claim the erectile dysfunction narrative she didn't mention she didn't mention

his name that's what i'm saying that's what they say hit dogs will holler damn in nigeria they say hit giraffes will holler but it's the same thing you know i'm just not claiming that if it has nothing to do with me i ain't claiming that one you know and then he also posted a picture of himself smiling from ear to ear saying ed has never felt this good let me no no no no no no that's the one you don't claim man he did yo he said ed never felt this good let me take my ed self around the world as a single man with no ducks in tow now i would have never even connected to if he hadn't claimed it claimed it just straight up claim yeah you he's you claiming it like i didn't that's crazy i just thought porsche was giving help no i mean well look they've been married to each other they i'm pretty sure they know each other

maybe they don't but they know each other's like you know you know how how porsche's mouth can be and obviously we know how simon mouth can be too so they know each other they know they're talking to each other subliminally but um moving forward and i and i just want to say all the young boys in here i don't want to call their names because you know some of them are married and some of them have girlfriends but they all feel like porsche is a cure for erectile dysfunction i just want you to know All the young boys in here, I don't want to call their names because, you know, some of them are married and some of them have girlfriends. But they all feel like Portia is a cure for erectile dysfunction. I just want you to know that. I'm not going to say any names.

Nicki Minaj fans are demanding refunds. So Saturday she had a show in Malahide Castle in Dublin around 8 p.m. on Saturday night. However, she allegedly didn't hit the stage until almost 10 p.m people were so angry and um she haven't even given an explanation for why she was so late uh one person on tiktok said because there's a lot of tweets them bashing her but one of them said nikki minaj was so messy late lip synced and gave a 40 minute performance refunds needed yeah they was basically saying um all because she didn't want to be bothered to come on stage what a disgrace uh so crowd leaving malahide castle was sad and disappointed so prayers up for her whatever she's going through but yeah that's the last story for just with the mess people's choice mixes up next. I ain't chillin'. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Yo.

Morning, everybody. It's D.J. Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got to salute to Governor Gretchen Whitmer for joining us. She has a new book, True Gretch. Yes. What I've learned about life, leadership, and everything in between. It's a great read, too.

It's fast. It's 187 pages. You can finish it in a day. If you got an hour or two to spare. Like I said earlier, man, it's incredible to me that the Democrats have all of this great talent, right? Like you have Gretchen Whitmer. You have Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Governor Shapiro, Governor Wes Moore, Secretary Pete Buttigieg. You've got the vice president, but yet we stuck, at least for the moment, with damn Joe Biden. You know what I'm saying?

And y'all really think y'all going to win in November? Okay. What do you say, y'all? Huh? I'm talking to y'all. And I also want to say this, too. You know, this is a question that we've been asking for the longest, you know, is the Biden ticket a winnable ticket?

I don't think it is, especially with the party in the current state of disarray that it is. But now you're going to see a lot of these Negroes that for the past couple of weeks who've been on TV, capable of Biden, you're going to start to see their tune change because they masses Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi

done put it out there that they think it might be best for Biden to move on. They're putting it out there for people. So watch these Negroes, watch their tune start to change because their master tune has changed. Disgusting you all are. Well, do you at least have a positive note? Yes, the positive note is simply this.

Be grateful for triggers, as I told Brandon earlier. Because they point to where you are not free. Have a blessed day. Breakfast Club, bitches! You all finished or you all done? Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher.

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