The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Deon Cole Calls Out Kai Cenat, Kim Kardashian Declares Herself Queen of Soul Food + G Herbo & Ashley Allison Interview

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, G Herbo talks about his new album Lil Herb, processing grief after his father’s passing, family life, Meek Mill, and his viral moment with Funny Marco. Ashley Allison also joins us to discuss acquiring The Root, its cultural impact, and the Root 100 list. Plus, Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to a fast food cashier who pulled a gun on customers after they complained about slow service. Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I want to ask y'all a question as parents, right? Mm-hmm. Good morning to the world. Good morning, everybody. So my daughter, who's in sixth grade, had a substitute teacher, which is another sixth grade teacher, not her, teacher another sixth grade teacher this other sixth grade teacher is a mean teacher like mean like none of the kids like this teacher but my daughter said does she notice or she

hearing this for the first time on the national syndicated morning show she don't know so my daughter what i'm gonna tell you so my daughter like the whole class doesn't like this sixth grade teacher right because she's mean but my daughter said after taking one class with us she's learned more in the year that she's ever learned the other teachers a lot easier so my daughter call me it's a dad. Although people don't like this teacher, I learned more. I want to transfer to this teacher's class, a class that none of the kids want to go to. They prefer the easier kids. Yeah. I call the school. The school says, no, they can't. I'm like, the fact that she wants to go to a harder class with a harder teacher. She wants to be challenged. It's November.

Aren't the classes already set for the year? But if she's not being challenged. You're not in college. You can't just transfer classes? It's the same six to 18. You just go for one class to the other class. It's not like they're all AP classes regardless, but she just feels like this teacher teaches a lot better. She's a lot more difficult. She's really into the homework. So she was to be challenged. I'm not saying that's wrong for doing that. I'm just saying I don't think you can do that in the middle of a school year. You actually can because my son did that before in the middle school that he went to before he got to the one that he's in now. He wasn't even challenged. And he did like another math class better. And they

put him in that one, not because of who he is or anything. Just because when your child voices something like that. And it's in the best interest of the child and the education that they're receiving and the level that they on, they do make those changes. So why did they tell you know? Well, I'm going to go up to the school

in the next couple days to find out because they said no at first. But I just, you know, if it's her daddy, I'd have stayed in the easy class. But she's like, I want to be challenged. She was like, I'm bored in class. She was like, I know all this stuff. I've learned all this stuff.

I want to be challenged. I want to be challenged. And then you know that new class that she wanted to be put into one with the stricter teacher or whatever. But that teacher probably not in there trying to be their friend. Like she's in and she has a strict style that she teaches in. That's probably why it's not fair to call her mean.

She's probably just strict. Well, I said the teachers, I said the kids call her mean. I didn't call her mean. I said the kids calling me. But my daughter was like, no, I've learned more on that when she substituted that one day than the whole year. She was like, I really want to get in this class. And I was shocked. I was like, yeah, I'm like, well, I'm going to do whatever it takes to get you in that class.

If you want to be challenged and you feel like the other class is too easy because at the end of the day, you want to challenge kids, right? If something's too easy, they get bored, they start, no, I want to challenge my daughter. So, yeah, so what, I'm asking me, so what do you guys think I should do? I think you should go up there, like you said, you should go up there and, you know, don't, yo, don't go up there and get all crazy. Matter of fact, let gear do it. All right. Let get, go up to the school and explain. She has, she can speak to it better.

Okay. You know, she's going to put that nurturing sauce on it. Yeah, my child doesn't think, you know how gear talks. Yeah, yeah. So let her do it. Let her handle it. And the first thing you need to see, if that's even in the school's policy. Right.

And if you can even do that. You can do it at some schools. I don't know, but you can definitely do it if it's a problem for your child. Okay. All right. Well, thank you, guys. All right.

Well, today on the show, G. Herbo will be joining us. This new album, Little Herb drops tomorrow. We're going to be kicking it with G. Herbo. We haven't been talking to G. Herbo. I've seen Herbo recently.

He's been up here. We'll talk about it. Yeah, yeah. We'll talk about it. Yeah, yeah. We'll talk about front page news. Day 37 of the shutdown. Lord of that mercy.

We'll talk about all that. When we come back, Mimi will be here, so don't move. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess Hilary.

Sholomaine, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Let's get in some front page news. It starts a night football. The Raiders take on the Broncos at 815 on Prime video. What's up, Mimi? Good morning, Mee, Jash Alameen. How y'allamaine?

How y'all doing this morning? Peace, peace, peace, peace, Mimi. Good morning. All right, well, we start this morning with some big travel news. And if you're flying anytime soon, this could affect you. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy says the FAA will cut flights by about 10% at 40 major airports starting Friday, and that's about 4,000 flights a day. Officials say it's a safety move as the government shutdown drags into day 37, now the longest shutdown in U.S. history. Air traffic controllers, they haven't been paid in more than a month, and staffing shortages are only getting worse.

Let's listen to Sean Duffy talk more about that. We're noticing that there's additional pressure that's building in the system. And again, our priority is to make sure that you're safe. And so we're going to talk about additional measures that we are going to take that's going to reduce the risk profile in the national airspace. There is going to be a 10% reduction in capacity at 40 of our locations. I anticipate there will be additional disruptions. There will be frustration.

We are working with the airlines. They're going to work with passengers. But in the end, our sole role is to make sure that we keep this airspace as safe as possible. Yeah, the government will be open any day now. That's what's going to be that's what's going to be what makes them reopen the government. Forget the people. Forget all the government workers who haven't been paid and can't pay those bills. Forget the people who are not getting the SNAP benefits.

When the airlines start complaining, the big corporations, that's when they're going to reopen the government. Now, I was getting asked, I walked in with Lauren, and she said from her flight from, LA to here. She said she was stuck in the airport damn there all day because she was like flights just weren't leaving. It wasn't enough people working and she was like TSA took a long time. So they will always choose corporate interests over the interest of the people. So any

day now. Any day now you're right. The FAA says those cuts though they will roll out in phases so starting with about 4% fewer flights on Friday, 5% on Saturday and they will ramp up to the full 10% starting next week. This kind of system-wide slowdown

it has never happened before. It's just a sign of how fragile the nation's air traffic network has become. As you just mentioned with Lauren, there were more than 10,000 flights canceled this week. 400 more were delayed. So, you know, it's really getting crazy out there. The FAA, they said they plan to meet with the airlines and just try and see what they can do. But United Airlines, though, it's taking steps of its own.

It's promising full refunds to anyone who doesn't want to fly during those restrictions, even on if you have a non-refundable ticket, or even if you have a big, basic economy ticket. They are offering a refunds if you don't want to wait. And as this travel slowdown ripples across the country, there's a small update this morning for families receiving those SNAP benefits. They will see slightly larger payments this month, even as the shutdown drags on. So new guidelines from the U.S. Department of Agriculture out late yesterday says the agency can now cover 65% of benefits. That's up from the 50% of benefits that we talked about earlier this week.

Great. That means, yep, that's still a smaller amount, but not as steep as families first feared. Officials say they're using what's left in that emergency fund to keep the program running just through November. After that, of course, there's no money left. We have to wait and see if Congress reaches a deal. Lawmakers have already, or Democratic lawmakers have already voted 14 times without success to reopen the government. And at the center of this fight are those health care subsidies under the Affordable Care Act. So for millions of families without a paycheck,

check. No end inside yet. We will continue to wait and see what happens. At least they're getting some type of relief. Yeah. Now, I did see a bunch of governors saying that their state was state of emergency. I've seen Mikey. She says she's going to do it when she gets in the office to freeze electric bills. So why are they doing this to get more money from the government to help people out? Because I see a bunch of governors do that. Do you know? I think a bunch of governors are tapping into state funds to help do that. Gotcha. Because there's a bunch of governors who are also. There's another state which is escaping me right now, but they are paying full benefits

for some of their SNAP recipients in their state. So a lot of governors are just trying to see what they, is it Maryland? Yes, it was. Yep, it was Westmore. They're tapping into their state preserves to kind of help people out. Yeah, exactly. All right. Well, thank you, Mimi.

Of course. Coming up at 7, feeling overwhelmed by all the noise, all these headlines. You are not alone. There's a simple trend that's helping people unplug will tell you all about it. All right. Everybody else, get it off here, 800-585-105-1 if you need to vent whatever maybe whatever's on your mind maybe it's November 6 and your coworker got a Christmas tree

in the background up already I don't see I don't see no problem with that Mimi Mimi got a Christmas tree up already I'm ready no problem with that She couldn't wait until November End it at 1159 My wife already got the lights up They're not on yet but she already got the lights up

My wife got the lights up and on Because the reality is Halloween got decorations Thanksgiving don't have no decorations So you might as well go ahead and set up for Christmas Yeah My wife puts them on every night She's like we starting early Yeah how are you gonna call out Mimi yo

Yeah, it was done like four weeks ago That's typical envy behavior Oh my goodness Get it off your chest 885105-105-1 is the Breakfast Club Good morning The Breakfast Club The Breakfast Club

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Of course. Okay, I've been watching y'all since I was like 20. I'm 35 now. Oh, wow. So I've seen the breakfast club in many different ways. And I just want to say DJM, Charlie Men of God, how you guys make an example for black men. You know we need that.

D.J. and be what you do for the community. Charlamy, like, how far are you tame? Wow. Like, the vulnerabilities and encouraging accountability within black men is what we need. Just hilarious. Good morning. Are you there this morning? I am.

Wow. This thing, the way you have cultivated a voice for yourself and you've, carved out a space for your own. Like, hello, that's what we needed and what we've met. Thank you, babe. Period. As Lauren Lewis are there? She's in fact.

She can hear you. She can hear you, though. Missing with receipt. Missing was just always keeping us accountable and keeping us up to date. Hello, the breakfast club has came far, and I'm here for it, and I'm excited for where you guys are going. Thank you very much. Well, thank you so much.

Now, shout out yourself. You said you want to shout out yourself, too, right? Yeah, I want a shout of myself. My name is Rachel Raw, and I am in Film and TV. So I'm just shouting out, putting out my IG handle. It's Rachel Ross Films, R-A-C-H-E-L-R-O-S-S-S films, F-I-L-M-S. And if you need to do music videos, live sporting events, corporate events, get your girl up. Okay.

Thank you so much. No worries. Thank you, Rachel. Shea, good morning. Get off your chest, Shea. Good morning. I was pulling because I listen. to the interview yesterday with Ms. Kat,

and I don't know about this story about just getting passed up on the opportunity to be on this chat show because of the comments that she made. But I just thought that very crazy that we're still having this argument over, you know, the transmitting thing not being able to carry kids. Because I feel like it just such is everything that women have to go through to bring people to children

onto the earth all because they don't have the biological body to be able to conceive his and I get the whole aspect of real or spiritual beings just having a physical experience on earth but within that broad mature spirit into the prospective body that he wasn't who to have and unfortunately that body does not allow you to be able to carry or conceive his so a woman losing out on a job opportunity because he can try to go against basic biology It's like, it's completely ass-nors, and I don't feel like that's right at all. I appreciate you for that. Of course.

Of course. I love you guys. I listen to y'all every morning. And what Ms. Pat said when she said, when you just got to let people be who they are, it's completely correct. Because at this point, if they're willing to say, well, we're going to pass up on just because she made a comment to do, that's not even something that they should have been involved with the beginning.

Mm-hmm. That's totally true. I appreciate that. Thank you. You should have started with that. She started up and gave her a fan and then said, Ms. Passa, mind your business. They said Ms. Patsy and mind your business.

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Peace, sis. How are you? I'm doing. I'm doing good. That's good. That's good. I want to comment on, um, Jeff,

can I come on your own conversations from yesterday? I think it was Pat and, um, I don't know the gay guy's name. Jordan Cooper, man, the gay guy. How did what if somebody referred to you as the gay guy? This guy was so funny. The writer that came up here.

Jordan Cooper. I do feel like when it comes to being, I don't think you should have been blocked from BET for that conversation or for the statement that you had that you made, but I do think that the statement was just unnecessary to make, and when you lead with love,

you just wouldn't even made that statement, but I don't think it was something that was worth blocking you for, if anything, could have been something that, you know, guys just talked about. Even if they want to be, like, included as part of, like, the episode or something like that. But I don't think it was definitely worth

being blocked by B&T for because it's not a wrong statement. Yeah. But as far as was it unnecessary teammate, definitely unnecessary teammate at that moment. We was talking to that lady.

I don't know her name that she was talking to. What was a lady's name? Lanavany. Leney, yes. But that's all. I don't think it was unnecessary teammate, but it also wasn't something

that was worse, you know, blocking you all BD for. Thank you, Treve. All right, y'all. All right, Tram. Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Dee. Dee, what's up?

Get it off your chest, bro. Man, okay, okay. As I'm making real quick, man. So I want to get a shot, man, and about this ACA that the Democrats I fight for, he's saying that the fight is over with, and I don't think so because the funds that went out to descend the 3rd or 1st. So they really have to descend the 3rd at first.

So that's why I think they should keep fighting. that hopefully that a Republican wake up and then they will, you know, they won't. They won't. Okay, I get it. But you're saying that it's over with,

but they have to December 31st. So where you're getting your source informed that this is over with? What I actually said, the premiums have already gone up. All you got to do is look it up. Okay, the premium. Obama K and Rowley's have seen premiums

that could jump up to over 300%. Okay, cool, cool. Okay, they're just like, Okay, let's put me. They're talking about an F-row. No, some people's already- Okay, no, no. Oh, God.

Okay, they're telling you that this will possibly if it don't be funding, right? No, I said some people's already has gone up. Some people. Okay, so how many, Charlemagne? 10%, five percent? I have not. Okay, then, you don't know. All right, then.

What? But it's not over with, yes. It's not over with it. Well, you know, yesterday I was reading that they might be getting closer to a deal, which includes a plan the past, regular appropriations bills and a promised vote on extending expiring health insurance subsidies. I'm telling you right now that if the government has been shut down for 37 days and all they end up with is the promised vote on extending expiring health insurance subsidies,

they lost and it's okay. It was a valid fight. I get that. I get that. But you know what I'm saying? The Republicans have not have a health care plan since it's been voted like 2014. You know what I'm saying? So they don't have a health care plan. And they're not going to have one. And we know this about them already. Well, keep fighting. I tell you those. You know, I know people don't suffer.

No. But you're talking about $1,000. Okay, you say, I'm saying a $1,000 a month going to $3,000. That's a lot of money, Shalda, man. That's a lot of money. Yeah, you're right. And you know what? All of these government workers who are not getting no checks right now, who've already missed two-pay checks,

who can't pay their rent, can't pay their light bills, can't pay their card notes. The 42 million people who are not getting SNAP benefits who can't eat. That's a lot of people, too. That's a lot of suffering that I don't like to see. Okay, I get there, too. But at the same time, those shard of money, this is tipping now. You're talking about right now versus years. Because Republicans don't have no plans.

It's not. It's not going to happen. My brother is right, but guess what? The landlord wants his money right now. The light company want their money right now, and they're not going to wait. They're going to vick your ass and turn your lights off and then what? Get it off your chest, 800, 585.101. We've got the latest with Lauren coming up.

Yes, we do. We're going to talk about Mariah Carey. Y'all know normally she is the bell of Christmas and people love Mariah Carey Christmas, but boy this year she has pissed some people off They are upset All right, we'll talk about that next You don't move, it's the Breakfast Club, good morning

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Talk to me All right y'all So Mariah Carey who you know When Mariah Carey says It is time to start celebrating Christmas That is when the people start celebrating Christmas Because she has been the bell Of the holiday for so long

But this year she released a video To let us know it was time She posted on our Instagram a few days ago And it has upset some people. So this is an ad that she did in collaboration with Sephora. Let's take a listen to the campaign. Halloween Slade, but now it's spilvy. Who's the thief?

Bad news, Mariah Carey. The elves are striking this year. Elf revenge for putting us through holiday hell. Santa's helper quit. I'm pawning all this so I can afford elf therapy. That's my blush. elf boy. Your lipstick, I'm taking it. Christmas, it's canceled.

No bells, no cheer, no glam. Bye, sweetie. You can't cancel Christmas. Any last words? Yeah. It's time! Can we not? Yeah, it's that time of year, man.

Yeah. But they're mad, though. So people are upset just because of some of the things that they mentioned in the video and what's actually happen in people's real lives right now. So the striking are people feeling like they're pushing back trying to get more money from jobs, people not even having jobs at this point. And Christmas

kind of, not kind of, Christmas being canceled for some families, them not being able to force certain things. And the elf mentions like he can't afford therapy and people you know, it triggered some people who actually this year are not going to be able to celebrate the holiday because everything that's going on. When y'all say some people, you're talking about people on social media? Yeah, I mean, it's

been a thing. We got to make sure them don't be botts and stuff sometimes. I thought the elves were striking because it seems like Christmas starts early all the time and the elves are like I don't want to start this early I don't want to start this early yeah they don't want to overwork so that you know and then that's a conversation because right now people feel there's a with the government shutdown

people are working right now they're not being paid at all or something not adequately and so they can't celebrate the holidays so people just feel like it's tone deaf for the season at her for collaborating with Sephora to sell stocking stuffers or something like that yeah I thought it was a joke based on the fact that Christmas is starting

earlier and earlier now like people are putting lights up earlier, people are, you know, starting to put out Christmas ads earlier, start Christmas music earlier. That's what I thought the commercial was playing. We know her intentions are always to be about, yes, the holiday season, it was happening, but I think yeah, people are upset. Like, they're in the

comments of her, the video that she posted. Like, this is so tone deaf. You're playing in our face. Why would you? And then there are some people who actually really can, like, afford that, who are looking at that collaboration, like, oh, okay, I'm gonna go get that. Like, you know

what I'm saying and then like stocking stuffers like you these are about to be gifts for people for the holidays like that's the point of her dropping it too yeah just so she can make money it's just watch it's going to be affordable like a stocking stuffer we always see celebrities do this around this time you know around the holidays where they team up with a big corporation um and come out with products at a discounted rate that you can get for gifts I agree I think also too like this ad wasn't shot like yesterday so we don't know when it was shot it doesn't seem bad. It plays off of Christmas. Yeah, she's trying to bring the Christmas

joy that people look early. Yes. Yeah, the elves don't want to work this early. Like, it has nothing to do with regular people. Like, we've been talking about this every year. This is not real. This is fake outrage. It's a couple of people on social media. But this is not real outrage. It'll work. I bet you she pulls it down by the end of the week.

No, she posted this November 1st. You know what she posted after this? She posted some of her Christmas merch that she's selling. She's standing on it. I mean, if that's what she wants to do, because her intention every year is to bring joy no matter what's happening. So I think people have to remember that. You do know that this is the biggest capitalism time of the year. What are we talking about? But Christmas makes me happy.

I put the lights on my house because I like it. I feel like a kid again when the lights are. I like it. I like it. Honestly, this is when you unplugged. This is what Mimi Brown was talking about in front page news. Like, yo, if you know it's something that somebody always trying to sell you and you don't got no money, unplug.

Like, don't subscribe to it. Just keep scrolling. I get it. It triggers you. It makes you upset. But going to the extent of, you know, bashing her or being upset with her because she's selling a product. It's just crazy. It's like just unplugged. Yeah, you're not escaping that this time of year, though.

Like, there's nowhere you're not going to go and see a sale. You can get off social media. You can turn your TV. Walking down the street, you go see you bad Christmas. It's Christmas time. You're not escaping out. But that's the thing. That's the access that we have on social media because you're not going to watch TV and write the company or the commercials that you see that you're really planning out.

That's right. You're not going to run up in the stuff. You're not going to be one. walking on the screen and see a sale and be like, you are really playing in my face with these Christmas sales? Yeah. Don't give me no sale. Yeah, somebody, there was one comment on Mariah Carey's video. Somebody tagged Fenty Beauty and was like, I'm, the fact that y'all like this is

disappointed. I'm like, they got sales too. I just went and shopped Fenty Beauty's Christmas stuff. Like, it's just happening. But we'll see. I did reach out to Mariah Carey's team to see if they'll be responding, but I doubt it. I don't, I don't, you go reach out to the dude. You reached out to who.

Marric Carrey's team to see, yeah, in Sephora. Okay. All right. Tim, we got to wrap up. I got more. We got more. All right. So, another backlash news.

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Let's take a listen to her talking about AI artists being on Billboard. How was I supposed to know has landed Zanaya Monet on five Billboard charts, including a radio airplay chart. Billboard believes that's an AI first. Were you surprised by the reaction? Yeah, I was totally surprised and then a lot of people started reaching out. But Nikki, they thought Zanaya was a real person. Zanai is an extension of me, so I look at her as a real person. But you can't sing.

She's not a real person. What do you say to people that say she may be an extension of you, but other singers who have worked hard, who have practiced her craft, who are really struggling to get hurt, who were really doing the actual singing that you seem to have circumvented to taken a shortcut through all of that. I wouldn't call it a shortcut because I still put it in the work.

And anytime something new comes about and it challenges the norm, you're going to get strong reactions behind it. And I just feel like AI, it's the new error that we're in. And I'm going to tell you how dumb I am. I saw the young lady sitting with Gail King and I thought to myself, I thought she was AI. I was like, this AI is getting out of hand.

This woman looks so real. Well, Talisha is beautiful. Yeah, I saw her too, and I was like, well, she looks airbrushed, but she's a real person. It's a problem for creatives, right? Because it's like, if I can make up an artist, I don't have to deal with an artist, I don't have to deal with management, I don't have to deal with percentages. I don't have to do everything for the artists, put them out. That's going to be a problem for a lot of artists. A lot of labels are going to say, I'd rather sign this AI version and not have to deal with the BL.

Yes. But you still got to do a deal with, what's her name? Talisha. Talicia. Yeah, she writes all the music. it's originally like you write it yeah she well she she's like the label but talisha doesn't have to deal with anybody she doesn't necessarily have to write it she puts what the it should be singing and it just makes it for makes the song for her no telisha

writes she writes she writes she writes poems and all of the songs she actually writes now she does put together she talked through her process in this interview about how she does the beats and the melodies and all that but she writes poems and writes all the lyrics to the songs that we hear and they're based off of her real experiences about like not having a father and different things she's been through so that's she said what the soul feel i will be doing all that without a. You could just put in write me and R&B song about breakup and bring it'll be done. Damn. So you say the AI going to be

like I robot? They're going to have a mind of their own? Yep. Well, I don't think it's advancing that fast, is it? It's advancing fast. It's moving pretty fast. By next year? I don't know about my next year. Getting on a billboard chart since, yeah, she's self-taught only four months. But Jermaine DePree just tweeted this morning he said, so let me get this right. Years ago

the industry found out that Millie Vanilli really weren't the voices on a Grammy winning record and they were stripped of their Grammy. But now we're getting ready to accept people who can't even sing create songs for a fake person how was this any different than millie vanilla damn you got a point that's crazy well she's on the billboard chart

though so shout out to her Talisha she's doing something all right well that is the latest with laura now when we come back we got front page news and then uh gee herba will be joining us this new album little herb is out tomorrow we'll talk to me in a few it's the breakfast club good morning morning everybody it's dj Nv jaselari

shalomaine negad we are the breakfast club let's get back in some front page news now some quick sports the raiders take on the Broncos tonight at 815, that's on Prime Video. What's up, Mimi? Good morning, Mee, Jess, Chaldemain. How y'all doing this morning? Good. Good morning. Good morning.

All right, well, we start this hour with election results still coming in from across the country where voters made decisions on everything from guns to school, to taxes, to family rights. In Maine, voters approved a red flag gun law that will allow families to ask a court to temporarily take firearms away from relatives who pose a danger to themselves or others. That makes Maine the 22nd state with an extreme risk protection law. Now, that will

replace a yellow flag law, which required police involvement in a mental health assessment before guns could be removed. Now, Maine voters, they also rejected a separate ballot measure that would have added voter ID requirements and tightened absentee voting rules. And in Texas, voters approved two constitutional amendments, one reaffirming that only U.S. citizens can vote, and another enshrining parental rights in the state's constitution. And in Colorado, voter signed off on a plan to raise taxes on the state's top earners, so those making over $300,000 a year, and that will help pay for free school meals for all students. Extra funds will also go towards boosting snap of food assistance in that state for those folks in Colorado. Now, these state-level wins for Democrats and

progressive policies have sparked a sharp reaction from President Trump, who took to true social again, urging Republicans to terminate the filibuster and move quickly to reform voter laws. Let's listen. It's time for Republicans to do what they have to do, and that's terminate the filibuster. It's the only way you can do it. And if you don't terminate the filibuster, you'll be in bad shape. We won't pass any legislation. There'll be no legislation passed for three and a quarter.

We have three and a quarter years. That's a long time. We should start tonight with the country's open. Congratulations. Then we should pass voter rights. ID. We should pass no mail-in voting. We should pass all the things that we want to pass to make our election secure and safe because California is a disaster. Many of the states are disasters. You go to a grocery store, you have to give ID. You go to a gas station, you give ID. But for voting, they want no voter ID. It's only for one reason because they cheat. You know, since Tuesday, Republicans have been playing the victim acting like they under attack, and they literally play like they don't have power. And they're going to use Tuesday. to speed up, whatever they've been cooking up,

the rig or cancel the elections in 2026 and 2008. I don't know about y'all, but when you go to the grocery store or to the gas station, do you need an ID? No. No. To do what? I guess they've used your credit card,

but even when you use your credit card, I don't have to pull up my ID. Yeah, same. So a little confusing what he was talking about there. But Democrats, you're right, Charlemagne, are hoping that Tuesday's results, though they send a clear message to Republicans, but I think Republicans are using that.

in another way to kind of see what they can do to change some of those laws going forward as we head into the midterm. Yeah, so Mike Johnson said yesterday, you know, if they lose the majority, they'll try to end the Trump administration. He won't have four years. He'll only have two. They are literally, it's a rope with dope. Like, they're literally acting like they're under attack just so they can speed up whatever

they're cooking up. The rig or cancel the elections in 26 and 28. Absolutely. All right. And we've got a follow up this morning on a story that we mentioned last month, that Blexit tour that was making its way through HBC. you homecoming season. Well, it wrapped up this past weekend with final stops at Bowie State and Lincoln University. And the Blacksit Educate to Liberate Tour, it's part of a conservative

movement co-founded by commentator Candice Owen and backed by Turning Point USA. And that name stands for Black exit, which is a push to get more Black Americans to consider, reconsider their political ties and embrace conservative values. Now, for the third year in a row, the group they visited HBCUs across the country during homecoming season. talking with students about politics, race, and identity. Now, organizers say the goal was to start conversations not to recruit, but many students across several HBCUs were skeptical about the group's intentions. Let's listen to some of the students in their reaction as the group was there on campuses.

I feel like I'm coming to one of the biggest events at Howard, and I feel like a lot of people that are here are pretty liberal. So, and just how upsetting and, like, emotional it gets for people. It's very strategic. They're definitely just looking for someone to, they're looking for content, someone to rage bait or something like that. It was nothing that made me like, you know, give them a side eye or anything. You just ask pretty general questions.

Hopefully they just don't cause any ruckus. Nobody's trying to bicker. Several HBCU said Blexit members didn't have permission to film or to host events. Some schools like Hampton had the group escorted off campus. Yeah, they were escorted off campus, I heard. I didn't see them. Yeah, they had them kicked off campus. But places like Booby State, that's where they,

they were this past weekend. They had to stay. They were allowed to stay because Abui is a public university. So a lot of faculty, they were also questioning why the group was focusing on younger students. They were targeting freshmen's that they said. And they were saying that they were using statistics without full context. And they were focusing on crime and social issues. So as a tour has wrapped up, it's left behind more questions and answers, more about whether this kind of outreach belongs on HBCU campuses during homecoming. And between these nonstop headlines, the politics, the constant stream of breaking news. A lot of people are simply tapping out. Experts say social media fatigue is real. And after years of endless scrolling, more Americans,

especially Gen Z, millennials, they say that they are burned out online. Pew data research shows that people are deleting apps, taking digital breaks, or cutting back on screen time just to breathe. Now, researchers, they call it digital downsizing. That's trading the doom scrolling for real life connection and better mental health. And it's not just everyday users feeling this. A lot of content creators say that they are feeling pressure. They're pulling back, posting less and focusing on balance. And experts say, though, it's just not about quitting social media altogether.

It's about knowing when to unplug, when to turn out the noise, and when to protect your peace. All right, y'all, well, I'm Mimi Brown. That is your front page news. Follow me at Mimi Brown TV. For more stories, follow the Black Information Network. Download the free IHeartRadio app or visit B-I-N-N-News. thank you mimi for joining us oh and i know this is random man but you know uh people be calling wanting to get in early for donkey at a day tomorrow um so feel free feel free to call us 1 800 585 1051

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j j s hilarious charlemagne the guy we are the breakfast club we got a special guest in the building yes sir we got g erbo welcome good good and congratulations man the number one record a couple of weeks ago congrats man how are you I'm good I'm glad to be here

how's it feels number one record uh it feel good I'm not gonna lie I feel great it feel great I just be trying like stay in the moment for real for real like just just keep it like up you know like when you got those type of moments you're just trying to figure out like I well I me personally like I got to figure out what's the next best thing like what do I do next from that like I try to live in a moment and grasp up that energy but just keep it going like I'm not trying to catch another number one I'm just trying to keep it going did you expect that to be the record because it's not

your typical of course it was just you just spitting nah hell no for sure I was just literally I can't say it enough. It was just me just having fun in the studio. I was in New York and was in the studio, me, Southside, Smat, and, you know, Southside, like, I really, I'd be having to give a lot of credit to Big Bro. Because he won't the only people that could tell me, like, rap on this. Just rap on this and figure it out, like, just rap. And that's what I did.

And that, that, that, that changed my life. Who picked it as a single? He was talking about that. Who picked it as a single? Like, was it just, I'm just going to release and see what happened, then it just took off like that's what i'm saying that's why like as artists you got to like really just bet on yourself for real for real because i was in a mode of just trying to do music and see what the streets connected to i didn't even like that song came out in December on my app i got

an app on my own app like where i just put out music material content all this is just for the people who really support me like you know what i'm saying my fans they know about the gherbo app i put it out on my app on a project that I was just recording all samples to. I did a project with all samples and it couldn't even go on Apple music. It couldn't go on DSPs. You know what I'm saying?

I put it out on the app in December and the label put it out on DSPs in like March, April. So it's like you got to just try and just see what the streets. Congratulations on your app. I know you had an app. I appreciate it. Have it changed the bag? Has that single changed your bag? Absolutely.

Because see I'll be thinking that you know a lot of people be fronting on like the power of radio and having a big radio record speak to that man for sure i always been like i knew because i've been independent this whole time so i know about like analytics i know about like residuals i know what like one record could really change your life that's right i'm saying like and i finally caught that record that like that life changing record so yeah the the bag been crazy and the royalties from radio are better than the screaming yeah absolutely for sure and it's like

once you once you get a song that really go radio it's like it just like it just changed everything for real for changing the places

you actually perform yeah for sure right exactly like you could put you put you put money in radio for sure for it to do what it's supposed to do

but just like even like it's a difference between like putting something in radio for just getting like rhythmic playlist you know what I'm saying

like all of that is just a big super difference like I'll be talking to like make all the time and just like once you get a record like I'm not even talking about what legit it's certain records that like the format

where you know it could go radio you feel I'm saying like I feel like every artist all you need is like one radio record a year just one. Like you feel I'm saying it ain't that easy to get one record right it's not easy at all but like you know hit maker that's my big brother like he's the god of this

like you know the whole formula he do it like and that's why he's so rich Like that's rich as shit Because he on radio Every year At least once He figured it out Right

For sure While a little herb While a little herb I was just Trying to like tap in Like That old hunger Like my old self

And when I be rapping good And shit Like I'd be reading The comments And shit Sometimes my fans be like Oh that ain't They ain't G Herb

Well that's little herb You know what I'm saying Like I feel like That was like One of my best Era was a rap Like I always been able

To rap I'm an emce So it's like I don't care if I'm not even all the way tapped into like my confidence and all of that I'm always going to be able to rap good

you feel me but like once you really focus on straight rap it's different and that's what I was trying to do so that's why I went and like name my album LaHurb like I was going up like listen to old interviews listen to old music videos I mean watch old music videos

listen to old songs and like that and like I was just trying to find a higher level of rap for myself you know what I'm saying like I say this all the time

like you could really get caught up in what's in front of you like I always been the type of person like I say this a lot a lot of rooms that I was in I wasn't really in the rooms you know what I'm thinking about like my past

I'm thinking about what I got to do when I get out the room like I'm just saying what's up like certain conversations that I really couldn't have because my mind is all over the place you feel me like so like in this like era where I am mentally I was just trying to like find that old hunger that made me enjoy what I have now like you know what I'm saying like that's that's why I really named my project little herb because like you're like on the day to day I'm 30 years old I'm in rapist since I was like 16 for real for real like you feel me and I was trying to figure out like damn like all the steps that it took me to get here. You feel what I'm saying?

Like, I forgot a lot. I'm not going to lie. It's a lot of shit that I did that I forgot. So it's like I wanted to make myself remember. So I had to like go back in and like tap in with my old self for real. I heard you say Little Herb is a full circle moment and it's a return to the fundamentals. But you're closing the chapter on the Little Herb era. What does what does closing that chapter actually look like?

Closing that chapter is like for real just letting go. It's a lot of shit that I held on to that I just don't need no more. For real, for real, like, the streets. That therapy talk right there, boy. Yeah, just letting go, for real, for real. And it is, it is definitely therapy that help me. It's like, a lot of shit that you hold on to. You just like, just let it go.

Just let it go and just let it find you. You know, for I'm saying. Like, no, for real, like, I was one of the people that just, like, my heart's so big, and I feel like people knew that. Like, people knew that, like, they grab me, and I'm grabbing them back, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm holding on this to that type. like that's just letting that chapter go

like and people have been saying this to me for years and I've been knowing it but I never really acted on it like I shouldn't focus on nothing but music and my family and like God like that's the only thing that I should wake up and care about. I shouldn't really give a fuck about how somebody else eat or how somebody

else get to work or get the sleep or any of that shit and I worried about that for years like let's be closed in that chapter like I'm gonna tap into this tell my story and just let go or let go and let go and God for real for and that go for everything and everybody and it's a whole another chapter open to fund me because everything that got me here I don't I

don't even really have it no more for real for like all my friends did I'm gonna be a real 100% independent artists like I don't got no label no production company I'm 100% a real new person and a new artist so it's like I just want to just tap into this do what I need to do and I'm already doing it for real but just like letting go for real like i don't i don't want to have no attachments other than family no bulls now you talk about meek mill changing your life right you said he was your inspiration yeah break that down of what you seen in meek that made you think that you can do it i just got done listening to we're gonna get this money right now on my way here like meek is my

favorite rapper for real bro it's my big brother and i was just with meek last night we just did a song last night we was in a studio last night i believe but like i i used to listen to meek and watched meek when he was a battle rapper but when he really got rich and made this shit happen it's like alright but that like it's different from me watching like Wayne and Hove and

you know what I'm saying like I couldn't like I could relate to it but it's like when I grew up and me I seen them rich already I see me turn rich coming from the streets and going through all the shit that he went through and really

like talking about it and preaching like positivity and motivation that shit made me feel like I just want to be like that for real for like that shit really like helped me grow into the artist that I am today for real for real because like damn like it's not meek like

it's not like he was an artist and he was like far away you know what I'm saying like I felt like I could grasp onto that shit and become that like this is a real street that became the biggest in the world like he became the biggest best rap and he's a rap guy

like I love rapping I'm an emce so I study that first and foremost but just a blueprinter like and like he like he gave you the real blueprint like you get on you take care you do what you're supposed to do you take care your family your mother like that n**t to make

me like I just used to have to just get money to my mama just like thinking about that type of shit you know I'm saying like I retire my mom when I was 16 years old bro literally and they put a lot of pressure on me I told my mama stop working when I was 16. She never worked since. I'm taking care of her. My aunties.

My whole family since I was 16. That's a lot of pressure. That's a hell of a pressure. A lot of pressure. Now, you're the Meek Mill for a lot of these younger artists. So what do you show them to show them that they can do it? What do you do? Because, you know, you got a lot of kids watching you. They want to be herbal. For sure. Like, for me, I just try to, like, what's the word? Like, you got to, like, show them, like, what Meek did for real?

Be an example. Tangible. got a show like I like the thing with me that I feel like make a difference a lot is I let people see me in the physical like you got to see it like had conversations like seeing it's believing you feel I'm saying like you know you could do this when you could actually get in front of somebody like me growing up I never seen nobody that I looked up to and I wanted to be like in front of me talking to me I'm saying like I just had to had a mind power like I could do it I'm gonna do it you from saying like and it happened for me and when I got a certain

age, like 19, 20, like those ages when I started traveling and having conversations with people that I looked up to, but like 14, 15, 16, them years really matter where it's like, you know what I'm saying, I try to be the person where I just go back and do certain things and go touch the community and, you know what I'm saying, tell them that they could really make it. Like, this shit is nothing for real. Like, but like, and I ain't going to say it's nothing. Like, it's, it's a task for sure.

sure it's hard but it's easy at the same time all you got to do is wake up and strive to go get it and want to do it and believe that you could do it you just got to have a vision you feel I'm saying like and and when I go look at like these kids and be going to talk and have conversations like they got the same power that I got like they really got something in them they just don't think it's possible this shit is really possible like they when you wake up and all you got is this four block radius in your hood and the shit that dealing with every day you think that's your life but it's like it's so much outside of that all you got to know is how to break that cycle and you know what i'm saying like that's that's the

thing with me like i feel like that's what make a difference in why people like believe in me because i try i let them touch me i let them you know what i'm saying pauls like you know what i'm thinking about something now and you made me think about it when you said you been rapping since you was 19 because i can remember like your first first 16 16 yeah i can remember your first early breakfast club interviews, right? But then it started getting me thinking about all of these artists we've seen from Chicago that have come through

here the past 15 years. You talk about what's possible. Man, you are proof that surviving is possible. And Chief Keith Keith is proof that surviving is possible. For sure. So, so definitely. You know what I mean? People like Dirk that's locked up. People like Vaughn, that's no longer here. Plenty other artists we probably interviewed from Chicago. How does that

feel? It feel great, man. You know, and I'm going to say this again. I'm a shout to make out. real quick because he just told me the other day and it's it feels different. It's a different feeling to him saying it's like he's like man when you the chosen one it's certain things

that just affect you differently you know what I'm saying like and I learned that from the streets like I didn't bump my head so many times and did so much and been arrested and fell off and came back or whatever the case may be you know what I'm saying it's like when you do certain things God just punish you

differently because you can't get away with that you know what I'm saying like you would think you will see somebody else doing it like oh he did it and you can't do that because god got a different path for you and surviving in chicago just making it out of the streets alone it's a blessing like it's literally like i'd be seeing some of my homies and certain people that's just like but and i understand it other people don't get it like it's certain people where you just like you just like wash your hands with everything i know certain that was real menaces in the streets that don't do nothing but just be

at home with their girl and their kids now because they just want peace like damn I made it out this I can't believe I'm still alive like a lot of people never experienced life to that capacity where they're just grateful that they're alive that they still here you feel I'm saying and there's a lot of people

when they come to surviving you got to make decisions and it got to be calculated and there's a lot of people that's just raised off survival where you would do anything it's a difference like when you survive and you just raised off survival I'm trying to explain that with like

it's certain people where if you just like survive was your first instinct you would do anything you would kill your closest friend you were snitch robbed robbed steal from your mama your grandma and you got to understand

it's like that's just life it's certain people who don't know nothing else they was raised off of survival their mother and father raised them off of survival That's right. So it's like a lot of people don't... And she said, Johnny. The kids didn't come home last night.

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IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts I understand that you know what I'm saying it's just me being here today I try to like I think that's one of the reasons why like I probably got

took advantage of so much because I understand both sides of the fence and I try to get everybody the benefit of the doubt you know what I'm saying like I try to like think about

putting myself in other people's shoes before I make a decision if I'm saying like I always before I do anything I always think about the consequences, repercussions, everything. So if I do something to anybody or do anything,

I thought about it so many times I'm comfortable with how it play out. You know what I'm saying? And like, it's only certain people that think like that, especially in life. And coming from Chicago, you've got to think about both sides of the fence.

It's certain people that think a lot and it's certain people that don't think at all. You feel me? And it's a blessing to be here for sure, for sure, because I've seen a lot. I experienced a lot. I've seen a lot of death. And I just come from one of the toughest neighborhoods in Chicago,

like one of the most poverty-struck in neighborhoods where it was like I was a kid and people used to like a lady walked. I think I said this before on a breakfast club interview when I was in Shorty. Like a lady walked up on me. I'm waiting on my mom. She's coming from the lingerie. A lady walked up on me like, you got some C? I'm like, like, what?

I'm like, what? She's like, you got some C? She asked for crack. I'm like nine years old I'm like 9, 10 waiting at my mom when to come in the house She's like, you got some C, I'm like, what? Yeah

She asked me if I had crack Literally a kid, three in the morning I'm outside because that's 9 year old selling crack For real, for real, like So when did you get some? The cell? Jesus, I'm just, I'm just a

That's a question, it's a statue of limitations with this shit for real, like I didn't solve some crack It's a statue of limitations For sure. That therapeutic was this album, though, in regards to your grieving process. Because I hear you mention your brother a lot, especially on Give It All. How did that help?

I ain't going to lie to that. I've been dealing with deaths since I was a kid, bro. Like, I lost, I started losing friends when I was like 14 years old, you know, like, and I'm talking about that I'm touching on that in my aisle in my project. But you got to really, like, realize I'm 30 years old. I've been losing people I love for 15. years like and still managing to wake up and make it happen and BG Herbo and take pictures and smile for the fans like I really didn't lost some of my best friends and had to go do

a show that same day you know what I'm saying like my homie cap died 2015 I had to perform in front of 10,000 people I just had to find an Emmy a lot of people can't do that a lot of people like man I just lost my homie fucking to go spin like I wanted to go do the show like so it's like I'm I feel like I'm really destined for this shit I chose my own destiny I chose my own path and I'm saying that like for me to experience all of that death

and feel like I was numb to it when my little brother died it changed my life that was some of the worst pain that I ever felt in my life ever I could never I never could fathom like and I'm a street

like when I walk out the house I feel like I'm going to die like you know like I really feel like that and that's what give me home you know what I'm saying like every step every move that I take is calculated and I never feel like he was going down you know I'm saying like no bullshit I never ever think like him hell no I just I never thought he was going down every day I wake out wake up I really feel like I'm a die I feel like somebody will do something to me and that's just the life I live and that's just you still feel like that because I remember the last time you said you feel

like that you said you were going to therapy that to help you yeah it helped me with it's PTSD it me with it but like nah hell no and i and i'm glad that even going through therapy and like growing and healing the way that i've healed in my life i'm i'm kind of glad that i never lost that edge for real because that's how i protect myself that's how i protect my children that's how i make sure i get back home you feel i'm saying like i'm not out here thugging i ain't wild and i ain't doing no crazy some days i leave the house and it just be just me by myself no security nothing but I'm still on point I'm still watching my back

I'm still aware of my surroundings you feel I'm saying so it's like I'm glad that I never lost that edge for real for real and when like going back to what you know I'm saying what you said Charlemagne like when I when my little brother died I lost myself like I became an alcoholic like a badass alcoholic

I never used to drink bro I used to drink a fifth of liquor every single day like every day by myself like and my girl was pregnant when he died, you feel me, like, and I was, like, I was trying to, like, not be that weak

around her, you feel me? Because she know I didn't have been through shit, like, she didn't been around me, and I didn't lost homies, you know what I'm saying? Like, and she used to, like, say, like, snap out of it, like, you feel me? Like, she used to, like, say it, but it's like, I can't. It was just so hard for me, I really couldn't, for real. Like, I used to have to leave the house

just to go cry. Like, swear to God, like, just go get in the car and just cry for it. hour straight because I ain't want to do that in front of her and I felt like I should have I should have I should have but I was like I don't know I just And when she say snap out of it what does she mean?

Like not snap out of the grief Snap out of the hill and snap out of the crashing out of drinking drinking every day and wanting to go to the club and just feel something because I really can't feel nothing you know what I'm saying like that was like that's what she used to tell me to snap out of and it was

like it was hard man I ain't I want to go back to one thing you said in regards to how you react to death because, you know, staying busy as a response to trauma, right? And we saw that in real time if you don't mind me bringing this up. Like, like, people don't know the day your

father passed, God bless the day. I came in. You were scheduled to do a breakfast club interview. You came in the studio and still wanted to do it. I'm like, bro, go home. Like, what the hell? And I love you forever for that because I really was here to do this. And it's like, that's the thing.

Like, I'm so used to deaf and used to shit. It's like, I didn't even process it for real. Like, I came here because it's like I really was in my head trying to forget that my dad is dead. Yeah. But I got to like understand it. I got to know like, yeah, my father's just died today. I need to process that.

Like, and you had just got the news while you was in the car on the way here? On the way here, yeah. That's great. My dad was in a hospital. I knew he was sick and I found out he died and I just came here. I don't know. I just like, I don't even. He had to tell G-Hurmo, go home.

Like, G-Hurmo, what are you doing, bro? Like, we're not doing no enemy. Yeah, no, he told me, like, bro, just go home. Like, just leave, bro. For real, for real. What was the rest of that day? Like, what did you do? Did you reflect on it?

Were you afraid to even face it? I was afraid. Because, like, when you lose a parent, that's shit different. For real, for real. And my dad, like, I didn't have an absent father. Like, my father had been living with me my entire life. Like, my mother and my dad been together 40 years. For real, for real.

and like and I think I was just trying to like not feel it like not process it like you know what I'm saying I was just like alright let me just do it and like that's the problem like that's the thing like you feel like all right let me just do it and push through this and this my job this my life like you got to put that shit to the side sometimes when you're going through things like that you feel I'm saying and the rest of that day for me was really just like I was scared like I ain't want to call my mama I ain't want to talk to my sister it took me so long to just ask my sister are you okay how you're doing it was super hard you weren't okay yeah like I was scared to like had them conversations with her like how you feeling you know I'm saying that even my mom like I keep my mom close to me man my mom like this you feel me and I I know it like I could see it I know she was not okay and I used to avoid them conversations you know I'm saying like she'd bring stuff up and like send me pitches and all that it was it was like I'd have been in therapy I'm a person that's not like shy from my emotions like I'm in tune, my emotions, all of that, but just, like, it was hard because, like, for me,

just, I just thought he had more time. Like, I just wanted him to be here. So I wasn't trying to, like, live in reality because I'm still, I was still grieving my little brother, you know what I'm saying? Like, so when that happened, it was just like, I didn't want to believe that my dad was dead because I'd be on the road. Sometimes I go eight months without seeing my pops. So it's like, you feel me, like, eight, nine months without seeing them at all.

Sometimes I go months without talking about. to him so I was trying to like tap into that like you feel me like let me just get in that mentality like he like he here but you know what I'm saying but he my my pops really like that's crazy I think about that shit every day like man

really died on me and it's crazy like I pray every day like I pray so much because my pops my last conversation with him my dad died the day after his birthday like my birthday October 8th my dad birthday October 16th he died on 17 and my last

conversation with him. I called him. I said, I'd be birthday. I said, man, you on your way, boy, you're getting old. Like, I'm like, you're getting old, boy. And he died. Like, that was the last thing I said to my pop's like, boy, you're on your way, boy, you're about to be 70. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're getting old. Stop getting old. That shit crazy.

You said that I was on my way. Yeah. I hope so. I want him to. No, he haven't checked. I want him to. I hope he's telling me that the night. Like, that's giving me a lot of comfort for real, for real. Is it hard to write about? I mean, like I said, you write about your brother now.

Yeah. But do you think your brother would pass three years ago? Five. Five, okay, five years. So is it hard, it's hard to put that on paper right now. In a way,

like only, like, I'll just, like, for sure, like, in a way, I just rap about, like, my pop's passing. I never, like, I didn't got all the way,

like, I didn't make songs, like paying homage to my brother, like, give it all that song is about my brother and made songs just talking about

how I felt that day like I didn't make multiple songs about my brother dying like I ain't there for my pops yet all I said on wax for real is just like my dad did like I never spoke about the emotions how I felt none of that so yeah it is definitely tough because I don't know

I feel like mentally or just where I'm at in life like I ain't been able to tap into that pain yet yeah yeah well you want to get it to something off the album what you want to hear off the album man let's play Give It All That's one of my favorite songs

Why Not yeah we appreciate Thank you for joining us, brother. And they should pick up Herbo album this week. Skia. And it's the Breakfast Club, Good Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Shalameen Nagai.

We are the Breakfast Club. Somebody wanted to tell Lauren she got a segment to do. She forgot? I don't know where she's at. Was she late for the latest? Hold on. All right. All right.

Well, let's hit the button for the latest and we'll yell. All right. Lauren becoming a straight fat. Tell her. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets to detail. I'm a home girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest.

on this. The latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit everything. Well, it's the latest. On the breakfast club. Talk to me. L.L. Cool Bay.

Yes, good morning. Turn the mic on. Yeah, I can't hear myself. Okay, I'm here. I can hear me. Hey, y'all. So we are back with some more things. Okay.

So Kim Kardashian sat down with Nisi Nash. You know that they've been everywhere. Her, Tiana Taylor, like the whole cast of All's Fair or All Things Fair. All's fair. All's fair. Yes. So they've been promoting their show. So they sat down and they had the goat talk conversation.

So they're talking about different goat moments in their life. And they talk about the goat meal that they cook. And Kim Kay says she's the queen of soul food. Let's take a listen. Goat dish you can cook. You know this for me. You're gumbo. No.

Oh. Crabbs. Crabbs. Okay. I make crabs every single weekend. And I feel like if I was going to choose what you would say, it would be absolutely nothing. No. I don't feel like you cook, Kimberly Noel.

I just don't, I don't believe it. I'm a one trick pony. I know one meal, and it's a good one. Let me guess. And I'm going to make it for you, and you're going to be really proud of me. Is it greens? Nope. Macaroni and cheese?

It's the whole shebang. My soul food meal. Fried chicken, my mac and cheese, greens, a sweet potato soufflite. Give that look all you want. I'm going to make it. I am willing to be proven wrong. You know what? I've been the underdog.

my whole life so I underestimate me I love it when was the last time you made said meal I do it not often enough but it's good I don't want any of that shebang I don't I don't believe it for some reason I do believe cap that's she so many people in Kim's life like that are black that would have we would have heard that she can't cook already none of her exes says she can't cook none of her friends said she can't cook I really do believe her and she's confident enough to stand on it but none of her exes says she can cook though now listen in this same interview, Kim says, well, there's a video from Kevin Hart a while ago. He came over and I cooked some food and he stamped my food. So I found the video. Let's take a listen to Kevin

Hart after this whole food meal. Kim invited me over the house. Kim and Ye said, come. It's going to be some food I ain't know what to expect. I thought it's going to be some tuna casserole and some caviar. So I ain't going to lie about my babies with me. They're going to have. They're going to do. I said, if it's bad, y'all got to get daddy up out of here. We got to leave as a group, but I can't lie to y'all is not the case. Little do I know Kim threw down on some food. Got all this in here licking our fingers. He ain't talked to me yet. My baby over there throwing

down as well. So I'm going to give her a shout out, man. Kim, turn around. Turn around. Hurry up. Kim, this is your shout out right now. Your soul food, shout out. I would have to see her do it myself. Because you know, you can go to somebody house and they have the whole shabang bread out, but that don't mean they cooked it. You know what I'm saying? I would have to see her in the kitchen

actually shepping it up. Right. I just put a photo, too, that Kevin Hart had posted in that video, hashtag Soul Food Sundays. that this is the photo of the food that they were eating. But Nisi Nash had the same thing. Like, I need to see you with your hands in the kitchen, cooking this food before I believe that this is a thing. And also, too, who around her knows good soul food?

Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's very important. Like, if Lala tell me Kim can cook, I'd be like, okay. Oh, Sierra, okay. But I'm not listening to none of the generals of the Kardashians. You think Caitlin knows good soul food? If I think the sweet potatoes and pumpkin. Yeah.

Just, hey. All right. Hey, how you doing? Good. Yeah, I believe it, though. I mean, we have heard. Do you? Really?

I really do. Her grandmother ain't teaches that. I don't know. Her grandmother definitely ain't teacher that. I don't know. But I'm just saying. Because it's coming from the heart, though, right? Because it comes from being passed on.

I don't know. Next you're going to say she cook ox tail, right? Well, we'll have to see how that goes. In other news, Dionne Cole is having a conversation. Well, you had a conversation a couple days ago, but it's picking up right now. Dionne Cole sat down with Noriega and DJFN on Drink Chimps and they talked about a moment at the BT Awards

when Kai Sinat and Drewski were streaming and they ran into Dion. Let's take a listen. This network hired this really big streamer, right? The biggest streamer out there. So they hired this person to come to the award shows and do vaccine shit, right? Yes, I saw it.

And this motherfucker was like, he was going up to people like, I don't know who that is. He didn't know what that is. And his excuse was, don't blame me because I'm young. And that was so disrespectful to me, because I met dude one time backstage. And he walked off, and he was with my,

Drewski, he was with Drusky. He was like this. What's up, OG? How you doing, man? I appreciate you, man. I love everything you do. Then he went to him and was like, man, you know, OG, he's funny as hell, you know.

And he was like this. And just walked off. And I was like this. That's cool. And that's, I'm not trying to be I'm just going, if you're going to be in that position, do your research about when you see icons and

give them love when you see them, period. Yeah, now this is, I don't know, I think this conversation, I understand what he's saying. I can understand what he's saying too because in the moment How can he do his research on everybody that he knows not going to be here? We were going to get, I would listen, when you at these awards shows you don't know everybody, even if they give you

face sheets and the fat cards that they give us, it's hard. You know how many times I used to work the red carpet on all those shows, right? And I wouldn't know half the people that's coming up there, young or older. Sometimes they would have to tell me in my air, that's so and so and so and so. It's not that you being disrespectful, it's that you just don't know everybody. It's a learning experience.

It's a learning experience, you know what I mean? And, you know, sometimes you would. And then, Kyle, you know, Kyle mentioned his age. I mean, to be honest with you, yeah, I mean, it is his age. And then he already got his own platform that he built, you know what I mean? So just because he don't know somebody, I wouldn't really

give the, everybody don't know everybody. I do get it, but that was a lot of people at the BET Awards, a lot of people at the MetGala, he's been to countless big events, and it is, I'm not going to say impossible, unless you know, unless you really, really, like, a Laurelosa, who know everybody. I don't know everybody.

I openly say, I don't be knowing people, I don't be knowing how to say their names, like, it's the thing. I know. But I'm saying, yeah, so prime example, you can't expect everybody to know everybody, but at the same time, I do stand what Dionne Cole is saying, if they hired him to come there, then you might, might want to meet with him,

before I'd be like look yo this is who and still that's still not interesting everybody and also De Ankoe presented at the awards too and if you're there and you're streaming I think what I think the middle point of this is in the conversation that people keep trying to have about Kai Sadat when he does these things is that maybe there

should just be more preps that if he doesn't know at least certain people in certain situations he can like the Walee moment. There's hundreds of people at these awards shows young old but you know your age group I kind of put that on BAT for awards though sometimes sometimes you don't know everybody And he's doing behind-the-scenes stuff.

And the only reason I know is because I've been there before and I ain't know who's walking up. And they're saying, oh, that's so-and-so. And I don't know who they are. You can't press for everybody. Dion said that Kai was running up on people saying, I don't know who you are. I never saw him.

So you remember at the same award show was when him and Waleigh, he didn't say, I don't know who was. He just didn't know who was. But there has been, since this conversation keeps happening, there has been different moments that people were pulling of Kai in different situations where he doesn't know people or him talking about the fact that he doesn't know certain people. And the fact that what Diom is trying to get to

is the fact that he can just openly say I don't know these people And then we brought to these awards Where you're in here with these people And you're supposed to know who they are It makes no sense on the network I would put that on BET I wouldn't put that on him

I would because if they hired him They have to let him at least Give him the people that's running play And the show like all right yo he's a presenter This is the host This is the person performing At least know those people I wouldn't really put that on Kyle

For that one particular moment And as the old person How many of the young people do we know That's my point We go to these awards shows I don't know 90% of these young guys I listen to the radio now I'm like who is that?

When I used to do the red carpet They would bring some people out of I wouldn't have no idea And you can't trust BET Because I remember one time Miss Pat was walking up to me And they didn't know who Miss Pat was And she had a show

No she had a show on BET They was like, let a slide I'm like no that's Miss Pat And I brought Miss Pat over So everybody doesn't know Everybody on those award shows That was when Miss Pat first got First got on the BET Plus

And there's nothing wrong Introducing yourself too And that is true There's nothing wrong, being like, yo, what's up, man, my name, such and such. You know, that's the ego thing that goes into that. You're live on stream. Like, there's an ego thing that goes into that.

I've seen some of the biggest artists in the world on the planet walk into the room and introduce themselves to people. Like, literally walk up to you, shake their hand and be like, I'm Beyonce. I'm not even joking. I've seen that first hand. And the interview that Dion did with Nori, like, the conversation, it wasn't just about the Kai stuff.

He was trying to make a point throughout the whole conversation that we don't value our older, talent and acts like he talked about what he talked about up here to like going to certain concerts and if it's an old school like white act it's packed full of people but then you go to like r o g's concerts and it's not as packed the venues are smaller so i think he was trying to just get to like you know there should be a certain level of like respect on people who've been doing certain things i get what i'm saying i get what he was saying but just he also has to remember what those awards shows you have uh thousands of of artists and celebrities in the

building and you're not going to know everybody you know i mean yeah just not like i said I've been there before and I don't know half the people that's there and I do the rate, even a pair sometimes people walk in this building and I got to step outside to be like, who's that? Right? Y'all, yeah, they did it to the interview with that. If he walked out He was like, he did it the other day.

And what did Sholomey do? I knew exactly why NB walked up. Yeah. I said, NB walked out because he didn't know who this was. And I know that. And then what did you say? I don't know who you are either. But I introduced myself. I said, who are? I asked him a quest. I asked him. I don't have no problem looking stupid in case you don't know. Okay, I ain't out here trying to act like I knew I didn't know who it was.

Somebody coming in the building. Who is this? Where are they from? I wanted to do my research. That's right. Yeah, they actually won too. They DM me and was like, congratulate.

I mean, thank you. We won. Whatever. I'm trying to find the DM. I'm trying to find the DM. Thank you. Oh, Gilmore. Yes, he wrote us.

We got a rap, Lauren. I just wanted to mention it. All right. Donkey today. Who are you giving your donkey to, man? Another example of why you got to stay away from these Y ends because they're full frontal cortex not developed, but we'll discuss.

All right. We'll get to that next is the breakfast club. Good morning. Make sure you tell him to watch out for Florida, man. The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. Yes, you are a donkey. A Florida man attacked an ATM for a very strange reason. It gave him too much money.

Florida man is arrested after deputy says he rigged the door to his home in an attempt to electrocute his pregnant wife. Police arrested an Orlando man for attacking a flamingo. The breakfast club, bitchy. Donkey other day when Sholome ain't a guy. I don't know why y'all keep letting him get him. I get you all that different. Well, Duvall, donkey here today for Thursday, November 6th,

goes to a 19-year-old Y.N from Miami, Florida, named Anthony Markeith Elliott. I don't know when y'all going to realize and not go back and forth with people who are the same age as Jeezie's Trappadai mixtape. Okay, seriously, you have to ask these questions to yourself. Am I arguing with somebody that's the same age are younger than T.I's urban legend?

Okay, there is absolutely no reason to be going back and forth for the 19 year old. Okay, their prefrontal cortex doesn't even start developing until their mid-20s. Okay, you have to understand that before you even open up your mouth to go back and forth

for one of these youngers, but by the time people realize that, it's too late. And this young lady, Chaiton Thomas realized it a little too late. I see, Chaiton was in the car along with her pregnant daughter and her one-year-old daughter

and she decided that she wanted to stop at McDonald's. Well, when she stopped at Mickey D's, this happened. I told him, I said, listen, his mama wanted to make me grittles of met chicken because this is about to be a mac mac mac a friend of roared this mac i don't play these type of games we broke the story monday a miami gardens macdonald's employee arrested for pulling a gun and a car full of women and a child so you were waiting for a while yeah we was

waiting for like over an hour over an hour we stayed chayton timman says they waited a long time her pregnant daughter to some of the people in the car and then this guy anthony elliott wouldn't give them their food she says we looking at each other me and my god I was looking at each other, like, why are you upset? And he was like, I don't have to give you nothing. He was like, what you said, what you said, and we were like, are you serious? Like, what's really going on? So he clutched at his waist.

I got on the phone with the cops. I said, this is going to go one or two ways. Miami Gardens Police Department. Y'all need to get here to McDonald's because somebody for the die. All I heard just now was a bunch of Mick drama. Okay, Mick Mayhem, all right? That could have been a Mick disaster. All right.

I'm not debating with nobody that's younger. and get Richard die trying. That is a Mick mistake. All right. That is a conversation that leads to nothing but Mick Madness. All right. Chayton, you lucky. You wasn't Mick murdered. Okay. And who the hell waits at McDonald's for an hour?

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Why is that the case? And unpack what it means for you. Our breakfast foods are consistent consumer staples, and so they sort of become outsized indicators of inflation. Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As food restaurants, every time I come in this building, it's a story about a scuffleage subway or something popping off at Pupy's.

kerfuffles at KFC, people getting whipped over wappas, what is it about fast food that is causing folks to be so violent? Also, Anthony, I want better for brothers like you. I really do. It pains me to know that you feel like you have to carry a pistol

at work. Do you realize that everyone in this story thought they was in danger? Everyone? This man had a gun at work at McDonald's, and this woman, Chaitin was clearly dealing with some Let's go back to Local 10 News for the more to the report, please.

Elliot now facing the charges. And for this woman who already survived a shooting, she says she went into defense mode. What goes through your mind at that moment? Um, he has a death wish. He must have a death wish. There's got to be a suicide because it's no way that I'm going to allow you to do anything bodily harm to mine. All over McNuggets. All over McTicket.

McChicket. He must want to have a Mac funeral. She put my kids in harm's way And that's a problem for me I'm not that type of girl I'm not that type of woman And I'm not the type of parent She's already been shot before

We are traumatized people man We are hurt people But even through the pain We're gonna get these jokes off She knew she was on camera And she was letting it go You hear me The woman in the car with her kids

And poor Anthony was at work with a gun But Anthony clearly is a brother Who doesn't need to own a firearm Okay that is a combo at McDonald's That nobody wants See, when you have low emotional intelligence, okay, it's hard to be in a job in the service industry because a lot of the service industry is about temperament. Okay, you are dealing with other people all day, other people's emotions, other people's stress, and you have to keep you cool, okay? Because if you have a Mick meltdown, like Anthony did, then you end up in a Mick mess, and that's when you end up with a Mick Mugshot, okay?

This young man has been charged with five counts of aggravated assault with a firearm. Let me tell you how you end up in Mick Prison in a situation like this. One, being 19 in black. Okay, number two, if you work at McDonald's, I highly doubt you can afford the type of attorneys you need to even deal with a case like this. So you're going to end up getting a public defender who's going to tell you to plea to something, okay?

I don't know what the charge will be, and then they're going to end up giving you some jail time. And that's when you get Mick locked up. Ronald McDonald once said, when anger rises, think of the consequences. I'm lying. Ronald never said that. That was Confucius.

But I can make it. a meme saying it was Ronald McDonald and people will still share it. But the quote still applies. When anger rises, think of the consequences. Please give Anthony Marrakeith Elliot the biggest he-ha. Let's talk these people away.

How's Mick crazy? It definitely was. Who waits at McDonald's for an hour, though? That's crazy. Too much time, we hands. Yeah. I'll wait when he drop. the fries, but that ain't no hour. That's an hour.

That may be like seven to ten minutes. And listen, you know, never mind. What? No. What? I know you wasn't going to play no way. No, no.

You know, when you just said, when you, when you hear somebody say they waited at McDonald's for an hour, wait. Wait. They wait at McDonald's for an hour. You know what I'm saying? Wait. You know what I mean?

Yeah. All right. Yeah. Okay. We're not playing the game, no, right? No, no, no. You don't want to play it. No, you already pulled her up anyway.

You're looking right at it. I'm not. But if I had to guess. Shut up. All right. Guess? What? Wait, it is.

I say at least 260. All right. Five, five, four, two, you got. Wow. Big back, big back. All the food and all the world that I am going to eat. All right. Now, thank you for that donkey of the day.

Up next, Jess Fix My Mess. 800-585-105-1. If you need relationship advice, any type of advice you can call right now. And the chat, chat. Shout to everybody on our Twitch right now. We're on Twitch? We on Twitch, right?

Yeah, we're on. Oh, we're not? I don't see the chat? No. No? I thought we was. All right, well, call Jess Hart right now. She'll fix your message.

The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's about me. your problems. X about me. You need to beat your co-worker's ass. X about me.

Your coworker need to beat your ass. Call it up. That's Dr. Jess, and I'm here to fix your mess. It's getting very much messy. Let me fix it. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess.

Hilarious, Sholomey and the Guy. We are the breakfast club. I'm going to be on the breakfast club. Good morning. Hey, hi, Jess. Hey, PJ NV. Shaleman Nagy, Lauren. Who are you telling you going to be on the breakfast club?

Who are you talking to in the background? My little sister Oh, your little sister Saluta, shout out Devinie, shout out to Devinie Her birthday was yesterday She just turned 13 So she is officially a teenager

Wow, so you're gonna have her in the car While you ask just this question Okay, I can't wait, go Well, it's not too crazy But, you know, I do have a hair business I've been doing hair since I was in high school Like 2012 And recently I graduated from cosmetology

and I'm really taking my business serious now. Shout out to my business, J.D.Renay Hare. But I have an issue having boundaries with family and friends. And, you know, I recently had a friend that just didn't show up for her appointment and just thought that I could just reschedule her. But it's not easy like that when I'm trying to build my clientele and I have people that I can fill in those spots with that don't ask for discounts and, you know, really want to pay full price and experience my services.

I'm just wondering, like, maybe if you could give me some tips because I have a big heart. Like, I don't want to charge family because they do so much for me. Like, I have a very supportive family, you know, but with the hair and with my business and I'm a new business owner, like, I just find it hard to have those boundaries sometimes. Yeah, well, your pockets feel that your boundaries should have been put in place, I bet, right? Because starting a business is not easy, you know, especially if your pockets ain't. you know, if you ain't already rich, you know what I mean? You take L's like when you start in a business. So you understand that, right?

Like, because I already know your pockets is hit. Because you're self-funding everything, correct? I am. Yeah, you don't have investors. You didn't get a loan. You're doing it out of your pocket, right? So it has to be a conversation with friends and family and people who want the discounts or they want it for free unless you're an influencer that we can do tradeoff.

You know what I mean? You can post me to amplify my business or help me get exposure to get. more asses than these seats in this shop, or you know what I mean, then you really have to pay for it, because this is your way of living. This is the way you make your money, correct? You don't have another job, right? I do.

I have another job, but you know, I'm trying to replace my income. I'm trying to make this my full-time careers. Right, and it's hard to do that. That's why you do have another job so you can fund your business, so you can operate just through your business, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, well, I understand

having a big heart. I have a big heart as well. And you can still have a big heart and just say no Because it's the same like with my comedy shows every time Every time I do a comedy show on Baltimore I got friends a long list of friends and family That I had ones that I haven't even talked to in a while Whether they help me along the way, you know years back or not Like this is the way I make my money now

And if I'm giving discount here discount there I'm never making money My business will never exceed the level that it's at right now Because I'm not making money so you can still have a big heart and know how to say no you know what I'm saying just pray on it I don't know if you do that but just pray I definitely pray I'm definitely yes ask God to give you the words to say to people I mean it should just be no but if if you don't like saying no it makes you feel bad it's other ways to tell these people it do it's

making me feel bad I get what's your sign just curious I'm a burgo you all have a hard time telling people no I do yeah I mean I don't know I just I want to help people and I just want to... Damn, I thought you were racing in the United States. I've never heard a Virgo that was hard to tell people. No, that's crazy. That's their language right there.

But I just ask that. Astrology has nothing to do with it. Just, yo, like, you got to put you first. You have to put you first. Yeah. You know what I mean? And for all the people that be trying to negotiate prices with hairstallage, y'all got to stop that because we said our price is a price.

Man, although some of y'all do be tripping because $2.25 for a press, For a silk press, I don't care if you graduated from the elite class of Silk Presses. 225 is crazy. But Bobbers are charging like a $100 for him. Silk Pressions take way more than that. I get it. I get it. But like I said, you know what I mean?

You got to find a way to create that boundary. Like, look, y'all, I can't do it. I can't do it. I'm not booming enough to give up free hair styles. You're right, yeah. Yeah. Okay, thank you, Jess. That really do help me.

Good luck, Mama. Hello, who's this? My name is. What's your question for just, man? So basically, my girl, we've been together for like six months, and he got pregnant. You said she got pregnant? Yeah, she got pregnant. Okay.

Well, we got pregnant. Right, okay. And she wanted to keep the baby. She called life. And just a little backstory, I got a prison, like, last year. And I've been on my stuff. I got a job. got a four I got all this

and I'm feeling like I ain't lived here and I'm like you haven't lived here and I thought she's forcing the baby on me so you feel like she forcing the baby on you that you essentially put inside of her I understand my role in this situation

but I'm trying to explain to her it's a lot of financial responsibility and it's a lot more that going to this than just your feeling just like that feeling before you shot up the club you know what I'm saying you should have been thinking about that that's your girl this ain't just somebody that

you met like you know what I'm saying this ain't somebody that you just cool with you know this show girl six months or not I get it but you're supposed to have that in the back of your mind while you in them guts you feel me that you just got home from jail and you haven't lived yet you know what I mean and you still got you still you don't feel like you're stable enough to to provide what a child will need from you you found me and it is her body her choice You get what I'm saying. I mean, I totally understand, but you, this is a lesson that you're being taught right now. So, so what the outcome is?

Like, what are you, what's the outcome? What's you going to do now? I mean, either way, I'm going to take care of it. I'm going to take care of my baby because that's how I was right. That's right. But I just feel like it's way more than this. If we're not financially in the right spot to be taking on all of this, I already got a kid and she got a kid.

Yeah. And they're expensive as shit. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, I don't know. I'm a rocked out regardless, but I don't know. That's why I called up here. I'm trying to get a woman's perspective.

No, but that is. That's the woman's perspective. I mean, you can ask the men in the room, but that's the woman's perspective, though, you know, from the one that I'm giving, you know, like, it takes two. I mean, it's cliche, but it takes two. I get it, you feel me? I'm actually glad that you're home, you know, you're trying to get on your feet and everything like that. But the reason for not wanting a baby, the first thing you said, the reason for the reason for, not wanting a baby right now is you haven't lived yet and then you said everything else after

you was living when you you know what I'm saying when you was doing a thing when you was that night you lived and then now it's another person that's going to be living in a few months you know you just got to deal with that you can you can still live and have a baby it might slow you down but you know now I got three kids so you just got to you know put your big boy drawers on buddy and and you know be a dad and still try to live your life thanks thank you all I want to say one more thing. Charlotte, the name of God, got me through prison. He had me thinking different.

That billion idiots. I appreciate them. I appreciate you, King. Love, my brother. Love. Blessings to you, man. Got him through his prison bit, man. I sure did.

Slupt to everybody in prison, you know what I mean? Okay? They read books. They're trying to better their self, you know? And they aren't correctional facilities, but you got a lot of brothers in there trying to correct themselves, okay? So salute to them. Got him through his bed.

All right, just fixed my mess. 805.15. I didn't say nothing was freak. I said you got that man through his big. I can see the freak in your eyes. If he didn't provide context, it would have been a little crazy. If he didn't provide context to say

brilliant it is. Yeah, he said you got him through a sentence. I wasn't with him. Yeah, that's why he had to provide that context. Walking down with him, all right. Up next we got the ladies. Who said you got him through the 90s? Yo, shut up, man.

Any truth to that? No. No. No. The ladies were married. It's the breakfast club. The Breakfast Club Yeah, this chat is so disrespectful

You see the last one? What they say? The ball spot back? Yes. The chat is hilarious. It's not the baby you. Why is it always? Because people, they say what you say. I've never said that.

Say what? Ball spot is back. I've never said that. I've never said ball spot back. All right, well, let's get to the lady. I said you got a ball spot. Lauren becoming a straight fan. She doesn't be somebody that knows somebody.

She gets the details. I'm a home girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on this. She's the latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest. On the breakfast club. Talk to me.

Talk to me. All right, y'all. So, a big congratulations to Dolly Bishop and Charlemagne. So Dolly and Charlemagne, well, first of all, for those who may not know, Dolly Bishop is the president of the Black Effect Podcast Network. Big Dolly, not the little one, never the little one. Don't play with her. And they celebrated five years of the network,

so they covered Vibe magazine. The tagline is turning mics into a movement. But Dolly is, and they say this in the article, that she's the person that makes sure that Charlemagne walks the walk, because I know he talk a lot. They also mentioned in this article that she is the muscle. Charlemagne is the mouth. And I will agree that Dolly is definitely,

she gets things moving. So she oversees strategy partnerships and keeps the network profitable and purpose, That's right. Yes. Dolly is the reason Black Effect is successful. Dropping the clues bond for Dolly Bishop and Black Effect, damn it. Yes.

And thank you to Vibe for, you know, giving us that cover article. We appreciate it because who you are will show and what you do. So thank you, Vi, for highlighting what Black Effect is doing. Yeah, it was fine to see y'all. Now, in other news, speaking of Black Women in announcements, Clarissa Shield just sat down and announced that she signed a multi-million dollar fight contract for $8 million. She was talking to gal King. Let's take a listen.

It's a two-year contract. A two-year contract. So you're getting $8 million over the next two years. Yeah, but the best thing about this deal is it's the signing bonus, right? So before I step into the ring, I get a large amount. Before I, see, the 8-em is just like the minimum. You know, it's other stuff you get around that. This deal is actually bigger than that.

That's just the number that we decided to put out there. Because if you want to do the math, right, but that's just the minimum. I'll salute to Clarissa Drop on the mouth of Clarissa Shills I'll be bringing you guys some more details on that Because Clarissa has a press luncheon Here in New York City today Remember she talked to me at the Ebony Power 100

About this big announcement So this was the big announcement We'll get some more details today I'll be there covering that And then I'll bring it back here Into the latest tomorrow I don't care how she does the math $8 million whether she gets more than that

Or eight, it's still a lot of money Well I do want to know how many fights it is though I know it's two years But how many times does she have to fight Within those two years Yes because they asked her that question but she didn't answer it directly. So we can get some more details on that today.

I'm going to ask you all all the questions. I want to know to bring it right on back here. And lastly, in this hour, another congratulations to another fire black woman, Ashley Allison, who is now the owner of the Root. And the Root has the Route 100 list that they do every single year. And we actually talk to her about that list. And surprise, the Breakfast Club will be on it. Let's take a listen.

Congratulations on acquiring the Root. Yes. And I have something I want to congratulate you all on as well. Okay. So today we are announcing the Route 100 The first time I'm announcing this list as the publisher And the Breakfast Club is on our list Oh, wow, thank you very much

Thank you for all you all do To have the ear of the people We have some gifts for the guys From Martel, our sponsors Oh, salute to Martel Yeah, you know, the Blue Swift Okay, thank you very much We have one for you, Envy

We have your beautiful flowers over there Jess, I thought you were going to be here But we had some flowers waiting for you from when you come back to the office. So everyone go to the root.com and see who else is on the 100. Well, congratulations. The Root 100 comes out today.

Today. You're the first people to know that you're breaking news here. Dope. Thank you very much. I appreciate Ashley Allison because her voice is very important on CNN. And I love to see her spreading her wings and owning the route because people like her need to have platforms like that. Yeah, I agree.

And it's her company, Water and Whole Media, which is what she did the acquisition with. So, yeah, shout out to them. And you guys can check out. that list. It goes live today at 9 o'clock a.m. on the root.com. You'll see us on that list. Dope. Dole. That's cool. That's it for the hour. So you got? Yes. Okay. All right. Well, thank you so much. That is the latest

with Lauren. Now, what? What? Oh, we early? Yeah, that was the shortest one. Yeah, I had to look and see if something was wrong with Brandica. I'm like, damn. Well, I did have the other clip of you. I did have the other clip of you talking about how you feel like the root was hating on you in the canyon. I thought we had to get out. They was yelling at me last hour. You can watch that on

Breakfast Club YouTube. Yeah, it'll be live on our YouTube channel as well. I can talk if y'all need to talk. We know you can. That's why we're so shocked. Are you okay? It's like, dang,

y'all want me to end it and be on time or you want me to talk? No, no. We're going to another one? I got another story. We're good. Now, don't forget next week, tell me you're going to be right fast, Jess.

Hey, yo, I'm going to be in Perrysburg, Ohio. That's Toledo, Ohio, at the Funny Bone Comedy Club. We got two shows next Friday, two shows next Saturday. so just hilarious official.com if you haven't get your tickets now also don't forget to pre-order my book till death do we parent it's a co-parenting memoir that reflects on my journey with me raising my kid with his father so get that anyway you pre-order your books so you get your books at and Baltimore I'll be filming my comedy special at the Nevermore Hall December 13th we got two shows I might do December 14th as well but just trying to sell out the first two December 14th so get your tickets you will be on camera And look, the tickets for general admission goes on sale tomorrow. Today, the pre-sale, you can get you to reserve your tickets, get your tickets right now,

using the promo code 410 Jess. So my website, Jessillaretsofficial.com or Ticketmaster, you can get your pre-sale tickets using the promo code Jess 410. That was a lot of information, but if you love Jess, you kept up. All right. Period. All right. Now, when we come back, we got the People's Choice Mix, 800-585-105-10. We're going to get your request in now.

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's the EJNV. Jess O'Larry, Sholomey and the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. And don't forget next week. Jess, you're going to be out in Ohio?

Yep, I'm going to be in Toledo, Ohio. So we got four shows next weekend, November 14th and 15th at the Comedy Club, the Funny Bone Comedy Club. I don't know. I've never been to Perrysburg. Maybe I haven't just didn't know it was Parrysberg. I always thought it was Toledo. But for some reason, they wanted me to stress the fact that it's Perrysberg. So all surrounding areas, all the outskirts, the end.

skirts, whatever. Make sure you get your tickets and meet me at the Funny Bone Comedy Club in Toledo, Ohio. Can't wait to see y'all. All right. Now, Solomon, you got a positive note? I do have a positive note, man. I want to talk to you about resilience this morning. Okay, resilience is very different than being numb. Okay, resilience means you experience, you feel, you fail, you hurt, you fall, but you keep going. That's resilience. Have a great day. Breakfast club, bitches! Do y'all finish or y'all done? And she said, Johnny? The kids didn't come home last night.

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