The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Happy Thanksgiving From The Black Mothership

Episode Date: November 27, 2025

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Starting point is 00:02:47 Wake up, wake up, wake up! You guys really are like the hip-hop early morning and late night. The Breakfast Club is the most powerful, popular, urban radio show in the air. Live from the Black Mothership in New York City, DJ Envy, Charlemagne Nagar, and Jess O'Larias. Thank y'all for being cultural leaders, man.
Starting point is 00:03:08 I appreciate what y'all do for the culture. Collectively known as breakfast clubs, bicketts. I'm always nervous when I do the breakfast club because sometimes you say stuff and it's just going to get you in trouble. Good morning USA Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, we're actually not here. We're on vacation. Listen, man, it's Thanksgiving, too. We want to eat, too. But we have an amazing best-of show for you today, because the breakfast club has been around for 15 years.
Starting point is 00:03:47 That's right. We got a lot of classic conversations, a lot of classic moments that we can play for y'all. And two of them actually are from this year. That's right. Because it's all about family today, right, is Thanksgiving. That's right. So one is about a great union. Gucci Man and Kishayor. Gucci Man and Kiyah, an amazing husband, an amazing wife who are there for each other,
Starting point is 00:04:07 and they are both each other's crutches. And what I love about this conversation is that it talks about the importance of mental health. Yes, if you've read Gucci Man's new book episodes, which you absolutely should, he talks about his battles with bipolar as well as schizophrenia. and, you know, what he did to contain, what he's been, what he does to contain it. And Keisha plays a big part in that, man, so I can't wait to replay that conversation this morning. Yep. Also, and two brothers who are nominated for Grammy of the year.
Starting point is 00:04:35 They got the best rapper album of the year to me. I think so. And it's not even close. I think so. So we're going to be talking to them in a little bit as well. All right, well, let's get the show cracking. Get on the calls, 800-585-101. For what?
Starting point is 00:04:46 We're not even here to answer the phone. You're so used to lying to people about the people's choice mix that you're talking about get on the phones. what? Well, people call and get it off their chest. We ain't got to be here for that. They can call. We can open up the phone lines. Red can handle that. All right. If that's what we're doing. They can talk to Red. Okay. Call up Talk to Red. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yo, Charlemagne. Lizzie, what up? Are we live? This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool. We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. We can get on the phone right now. He'll tell you what it is. We lie? Hello? Who's this? Hello?
Starting point is 00:05:19 Hey, good morning. Get it off your chest. Um, crap. this is the in Florida I'm just getting off my chest I broke up with my boyfriend over the weekend I found out he was cheating on me with this ugly stripper with brown teeth
Starting point is 00:05:35 like it was crazy but I lowered my standards to be with that man completely like went against my pipe and if I'm going to deal with the same type anyway I'm going back to my tall I can answer so you're a stripper and he cheated with you with another stripper
Starting point is 00:05:49 no I'm not a stripper oh okay no he's she did a red of shirt fur. I found out about the shirt fur over the weekend. Her teeth are brown. Well, her body look like, though. You said, you ain't telling us what some cheeks look like. And that's what made a worse. That's what made it worse. It was bad, though.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Like, horrible leeselt. Like, it was, I had to go. I didn't even argue with the man. I just took all my stuff in the middle of the night and let. What's her Instagram? Because you might be a little bit jaded. You need to let us judge whether or not, you know, she's trash or not. What's her Instagram? I don't have her Instagram.
Starting point is 00:06:22 I can give you my Instagram, but I'm not interested in seeing you. You got cheated, though. Like, you don't want to see what he cheated with. Well, I'm sorry you had to go to that. So what is your Instagram, though? It's not even worse than you trash. What's your Instagram? Let me look.
Starting point is 00:06:39 What's your Instagram? My Instagram is pineapple, I can store, Joya. Joya? Z-O-Y-A. Oh, let's see. It's not coming up. Yeah, for me either. Nope.
Starting point is 00:06:52 not coming up. I'm sorry you got cheating on, no. I really am. It's okay. It was a smart related to. Smirking. Are you really sorry? He's a for smirking. Pineapple voya. Don't believe him. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You got cheating on. How old is your boyfriend? Um, he was 40. Oh, my God. He's too old to be cheating. How old are you? Tell me about it. Tell me about it. How old are you? 32. Oh, Lord have mercy. But I'm sorry, Mama. It's okay. The water under the bread. We don't even fight over them Not more
Starting point is 00:07:24 It's not even a big deal It ain't worth it How old was the scribble You shut up I don't know I don't know But she looks about 50 in the face How
Starting point is 00:07:31 She looked 50 in the face Jesus Amen I'm sorry pineapple Goya You keep saying my name What is the last letter That I was good All right
Starting point is 00:07:41 I don't know what she said Me neither Well have a good week Have a good week though Forty three years old It's too old to be cheating Hello who's this Hey what's going on man
Starting point is 00:07:48 This cat man from NC Your name is Cap Yeah, man, cap, no cop. Nobody believes you. Good morning. How are you, sir? Hey, listen. Hey, yo, listen to him.
Starting point is 00:07:57 No, I believe this. I really got to get this off my chest, man. Okay. So look. All right. Come up, man. My child's mother took me up for child support. And, you know, it's kind of crazy because I just co-signed for on a vehicle.
Starting point is 00:08:12 What kind of vehicle? A 2022 on a CRV. Okay, okay. You're saying, I ain't no Kanye West or nothing. It don't matter, bro. She got some nice. wheels to get around. That's all she need. Yeah, but I mean, she still came around to
Starting point is 00:08:25 pick me on child support. Well, clearly she needs a little bit more. And I take care of my time. Yeah, that's the thing I don't, that's the thing I don't be understanding though. When a person is actually taking care of their child and providing for the mother of their child, I don't think they should be getting put on child support, but for whatever reason, the courts don't recognize that. What's your communication? Like,
Starting point is 00:08:41 your relationship is good? I don't know. It could be a little bit better, I guess. Okay, so does the mediate, like, the person in the middle with the child support just like, does that make it easier? Is like got a reason why are she just being petty? Nah, because I own my own business. So it's like, when I have my
Starting point is 00:08:57 child, I doubt, shout out the cash app. When I have my child, I got her to get cash app. So it shows that I I was sitting there like $20,000. Now, I own my own little landscape and business and whatnot down here. And she was like, yo, she just sees the invoices for X amount
Starting point is 00:09:13 and she just assumes that she won't you know, that but I got to pay people. You know, so I got overhead expenses, insurance, audits, and all type of stuff. Something I don't even know about I feel you What time you got to be to work this morning Oh man
Starting point is 00:09:24 I'm out here working right now man Damn well I'm glad you at work Because you need to get off the phone With us You vent it Now you gotta get back to work So you can pay that child support
Starting point is 00:09:32 Sir Okay Hey you ain't lie too Have a great day Hello who's this It's Randy Randy from Virginia Randy from 757
Starting point is 00:09:41 What's up Randy What's all Good morning breakfast club Good morning Shalamay Peace Good morning Jeff Good morning Good morning
Starting point is 00:09:48 I'm so excited I listen to y'all every morning. Well, thank you. We appreciate you. Well, what I wanted to get off my chest today was it's nothing bad, nothing bad at all. Just I want people to be mindful of the fact that it is flu season, the fact that it is the season for people to spread illnesses and infections. I'm a nurse here in Virginia, and I see a lot of preventable situations in our hospitals
Starting point is 00:10:15 that could be prevented by people just washing their hands, keeping their kids home when they're sick just being mindful of the climate and what's going on people take care of yourself so we can take care of each other that's all I wanted to say well Randy just is the flu police here she's the cold police if you have
Starting point is 00:10:32 you already know if you have a flu if your hands are dirty she ain't even the flu and cold police she just sneezing cough police like like people don't be having allergies flu and cold and COVID there are symptoms so yes absolutely you got a brand new baby you can't be playing out of you at all she quarantining right now with the baby
Starting point is 00:10:49 Period. Yes. Smart. Now, Reddy, let me ask you a question. In your personal opinion, just asking your personal opinion, what is your thoughts on the flu shots? Because some people say take it. Some people say don't. What's your personal opinion?
Starting point is 00:11:01 Just curious. Okay, it just totally depends on a lot of times people don't believe in the flu shots because of religious preference. I will not touch that at all because if that's your religious preference, I totally understand. However, for preventative measures, the flu shot is effective. So as a nurse, I do advocate for the flu shot. Absolutely 100%. Thank you, Randy. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Y'all have a good morning. You too, now. Get it off your chest. 800, 585, 105.15. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:11:35 This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk. I hate the way that you dress. Everything with me is blessed. Call up next. 800 585-105-1 Not just me
Starting point is 00:11:49 I'm with the coach of Philly Hello who's this Hey y'all what's going on Breakfast Club DJ NB What's the guy Pete peace Good morning
Starting point is 00:11:58 What's up King How are you Get it over your chest brother Hey Sharla I'm a really idiot Listener
Starting point is 00:12:03 Love it Love it Thank you brother Thank you But I got to call you All that A greas just gay That you said
Starting point is 00:12:09 What I say Which time Oh no I'm crazy It's good on you What did I say You said that you like to do tricks on your bidet I'll be gay for the bidet
Starting point is 00:12:21 I don't care what y'all say That's one of the best investments I haven't made in my life I don't flex too often But that new toilet bro How can you do tricks on a bidet The same way to get you a bidet And you'll find out
Starting point is 00:12:33 I don't need a bidet I got a bad You see Wow Wow No no no What? Yeah
Starting point is 00:12:40 I got a husband The bidet is when the water You know I'm seeing it's in your butt You know We know what the bidet is. What's you mean? Tricks.
Starting point is 00:12:48 You just got to adjust yourself the right way so the water hits the right spots. That's all. You just got one? You know, they got the water spins. They can do the water twirling. The heated seed.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Listen, if you invest in anything, invest in a nice bed and a nice toilet, that's all I'm going to tell y'all. Okay. That's all you. Y'all be spending your money the wrong way. Y'all be buying the jewelry and the cars.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Nice bed, nice sheets, nice toilet. Okay. That's what you're going to care about you get older. Salute to Nori. Norie Corby about a year ago. Yo, E, what's up?
Starting point is 00:13:20 I got to ask you about your bidet. I'm like, my bag. Damn. Yeah, boy, yeah. My bad, boy, yeah. I got, like, 16 different things. I didn't even press all the buttons on my birthday. It sounds like a road, honey.
Starting point is 00:13:29 It sounds like you got a low road. I'm going to take a picture and just show you with my settings. Like, I got the ecoflush, the full flush, too. I got the dry. I got the sanitizing. Oh, my God. Man, let me tell you on something. Nice bed, nice toilet.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Those are the important things, kids. All right? That sounds crazy. Y'all want to be crazy. But anyway, why that's how crazy? Get it off your chest. That's what you should be investing your money in. 585105.1.
Starting point is 00:13:54 You're buying a new pair of design and something that you can't even pronounce. That ain't even going to be in next year. Y'all, y'all want to be old. It's a bad. You're like, y'all so old, y'all not. I don't. I'm 407. I'm just telling you what's important.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Y'all going to get one day, then you're going to be like, y'all are right. The bidet is the best thing ever. I have mine for five years now. I'll enjoy it. I have an anniversary. I'm a name mine. It sounds like a toy. It is.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Like, no, I'm talking about, like, a vibrator or something. And then the beautiful thing about Mabeday gives you time, right? So you press the button and they give you a few seconds to adjust that butt hole just right. Let that water hit that spot. I arched it back. You see what I'm saying? And they got temperature control on the water, too, so don't come out cold. It's just night.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Anyway, get it off your chest. 800-585-105.1. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody is DJ and V. Jess and Larry, Shalman, the guy.
Starting point is 00:14:47 We are the breakfast club. We're taking your calls 800-58-1-105-105-1. We were talking about this woman who hosted Thanksgiving dinner at her crib. She said last year it cost her over $500, and she couldn't afford it. So this year she did spaghetti. So we're asking 800-585-105-1. What are your thoughts on that? What do you think, Jeff?
Starting point is 00:15:06 I know some people probably got there like, is this a baby shower? Like, you know, because spaghetti and spaghetti is ready. People were mad because they expected a spray. I get it. This is the thing. I would have been mad. She could have told them before they got there to be honest with you. I mean, because maybe she did not have it, yo. Like, to be honest, spaghetti, that's a struggle. That was a struggle meal. Like, growing up for around my way, you know what I'm saying. And, and I felt like if she didn't have it, she just didn't have it. Why didn't y'all bring food? But she could, but she could have told them that before they got there. Only thing y'all going to be eating is spaghetti. Like, if y'all can pitch in and help me cook or help me buy stuff, that's better. But I never looked at spaghetti. It's a struggle. meal, I looked at as a delicacy. Nice. That was a gourmet mill with two pieces of white bread and some corn. Mm, shit. Then it's not spaghetti
Starting point is 00:15:51 no more. That sounds different. No, like spaghetti and there's some corn on the side. You know what I'm saying? It's corn is the side of some white bread. But we were struggling so we didn't have the corn. We just had yellow corn and spaghetti. We just had the noodles and we just had the noodles and butter. This noodles and butter is a struggle meal. But if you got the noodles
Starting point is 00:16:07 with the ground beef and the sauce and some white bread and corn, oh, that's a full-cost meal. See, I don't eat red sauce. So I eat spaghetti. with butter that's what I like that's what I like I don't eat spaghetti I don't eat lasagna with little butter I'm good okay that's a kid y'all was struggling huh no we wasn't struggling I just didn't like oh that's just what y'all like you're not black dude either so yeah I'm like you keep forgetting that he's not black I am black I'm funny I'm supposed to picture my dad they was like you must be adopted no I'm black
Starting point is 00:16:34 messed up no you might be adopted I'm not adopted I'm black they're telling you I'm black He's not like us He's not like us I'm about to sue you Hey yo Perj I'm about to see you
Starting point is 00:16:49 I'm about to sue you Defamation Hello Who's this Hello Hey what's up man What's going on I didn't know y'all
Starting point is 00:16:56 I had connecting man Good morning Good morning I'm going to teach to the God What's going on Peace king How are you How are you feeling?
Starting point is 00:17:01 Peace peace I'm good But look right What's up light skin Peace peace peace Peace peace But uh Tell them keep their ass
Starting point is 00:17:09 Don't, man. Keep their ass home. Even if they're not grateful and they're not thankful, keep their ass on. You're not, keep your ass home, man. That's how I'm looking at it, man. Family is everything. I think you're coming over to celebrate family. Yeah, thanks, all praises.
Starting point is 00:17:22 You know what I mean? You can't contribute. You all right to keep your ass on, man. That's something about. I'm with you. It's about family. Forget all the food, stuff. The fact that you got family alive and healthy and together,
Starting point is 00:17:31 that's the most important thing. Not on things. What you mean? On day it's given, the most important thing is the food. But, you know, family together, and then the food, secondly. That ain't true. Y'all, y'all don't want to sit around
Starting point is 00:17:44 standing each other face starving. All right? Y'all don't like each other that much. But I do feel like you should ever cook what you can afford. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You don't got to jump out the window. And in this case, that's what she did.
Starting point is 00:17:54 That's right. Brittany. At least you do turkey ground beef for Thanksgiving. Morning. My turkey ground meat. Jesus. I hate that. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Brittany, what's your thoughts? My thoughts is to walk in on Thanksgiving and to see spaghetti. That's kind of disrespect. If she needed help, she could have asked someone to bring a dish. Everybody understand that times is hard. But to sit up there and to just serve spaghetti and to not even give the option to offer to help. If I walk in to Scott Spaghetti on Thanksgiving,
Starting point is 00:18:20 I'm knocking it over because what is this? Now we're fighting in the house. You know, now my mama spaghetti over. Now we fight it. We're not fighting nothing. I'm knocking it over because you should have asked for help. It's about being thankful. It's a family thing.
Starting point is 00:18:33 We all could have contributed and came together. Don't just take it for yourself to ruin everyone's Thanksgiving because you broke. She's stuck. Damn, yeah, she's definitely a stud. You're a stud. I'm definitely not. I have a cold.
Starting point is 00:18:44 My voice's a little deep and raspy. Y'all got a lot of nerves trying to sit for me. Did you see them? You see them just identifying you as a stunt for no damn reason? Don't do that. Nobody, nope. Y'all just go try to sit with me. I live in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:18:57 We got snow. It's like 23 degrees. I got a cold. I'm not a stud. I'm just a sick with a little raspy voice. Damn. It's hard. My bad, you're right.
Starting point is 00:19:06 You're right. That's what you get for profiling people. I know you, right. She said, I'm sick. I'm in Detroit, Snow. I'm sorry. Labeling people. My dad's out here.
Starting point is 00:19:13 My bad. Okay. She was just so aggressive. You just saying, I thought that breakfasts her and they said I was the man when. Hey, God. Thanksgiving, I'm naturally aggressive, but Thanksgiving is my favorite. So to disrespect, one of my favorites, it's got to go there. I feel you.
Starting point is 00:19:29 My bad. I feel you. The phone ain't even hang up on it. You see how they're aggressive? Thanksgiving is one of our favorites because we like food and we like fellowship. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's the reason.
Starting point is 00:19:38 It ain't because of, I don't even know what the hell Thanksgiving. I don't know what the meaning of Thanksgiving is. I don't know either. But I love the fact the family come over, we watch the game, we play cards, we play board games. That's what it's about with us. Who cares about the food? No, the food is the most important thing next to the family. Stop saying who cares about the food.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Because if you didn't care about the food, you'd have your family over the time. Yeah, you wouldn't go to that. How is you talking about? 800-585-105. What a magic on a Thanksgiving dinner and when you get there is only spaghetti. How you feeling? Let's talk. Is the breakfast club morning?
Starting point is 00:20:07 I don't know. Is it's turkey? Turkey and the spaghetti, turkey, ground turkey? I don't know. It just looked like spaghetti, spaghetti. We'll talk. Let's the breakfast, though. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Tell me, tell you. Are you getting to the yams since Thanksgiving? Sweet, yeah. We got more coming up with the best of the breakfast club. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jen Salari.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Sholamine the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, we're talking about this woman who said she wasn't paying for our Thanksgiving dinner anymore. She said last year was over $500. She couldn't afford it. So this year she did spaghetti. So we're asking $800,581105.151, what are your thoughts?
Starting point is 00:20:47 We got the pre on the line. DePri, good morning. What up, breakfast, son? Good morning. Man, this is the person who I'm on the basket. Man, we is not doing spaghetti at the Thanksgiving dinner table. The children was not eating spaghetti, man. We're going to waste.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Damn. Not damn. You're just going to wait. She already broke. You're going to waste the food that she struggled to buy? No, we can help. now we can help out you gotta say something we gotta help out but we is not baked beans and spaghetti i think it's no bro you're messing up the whole menu bro we need the ham we need the
Starting point is 00:21:19 polly greens we need the yams the candy yams that's that you gotta put some marshalmed yeah i agree with you it's yeah they're messing up the whole you should have said something yeah she just should have said something now if she do you have at least a little bit of understand it to what the fact that that's the only thing that she could afford afford yeah And she can afford something different, you know what I mean, bring some fruit, you know what I mean? Yeah. You still need some fruit, but to forget it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Nah, no, you try to do something quick and easy. We need you to get the kitchen, okay? Get the kitchen. I appreciate y'all, though. Thank you, thank you. Hello, who's this? Hey, this is Bobbi's from South Carolina. How are you?
Starting point is 00:21:57 Hey, Bonnie from South Carolina. Good morning. What part of South Carolina are you calling from? Most corner. Hey, four and three, what's happening? I was there last week. So what you're thinking? Talk to us.
Starting point is 00:22:05 So, I'm just deployed to her. for bringing the family together. Had we had we known, I would have brought the garlic bread. Somebody that could have brought meatballs or something, I don't know. But the fact that she did that and her family was together, that's all they count. But like y'all said, nobody eating turkey, nobody eating an amp. So too many left don't. You see what she had to do.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Now, see, you absolutely right. Why didn't do a pot look? Why we ain't, I just thought about that. Why didn't do a pot look? Everybody bring a little dish. I literally said that last 10 minutes. You did. So you said pot look?
Starting point is 00:22:37 Yeah, well, no, I didn't say those words. And I'm like, why? You said like 10 minutes ago. Here, here. Yeah. Right, I'm like, why they just all bring food? Like, that's dumb. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:22:46 This is Lamar. Lamar, what's up? What are you calling from? I'm calling from Jersey. All right. Talk to us. Yeah, I'll be honest with you. Like, if there's no food,
Starting point is 00:22:55 it's different ways you can look at this. If she cooked the spaghettis from scratch, I'm kind of good with that. You know what I mean? If she gave me, like, ravioli's or anything like that, then I'm, have to ask questions like are you being funny yeah you know what I mean or maybe you're being creative I don't know you know this is starving out there I don't know you know I'm saying but
Starting point is 00:23:17 at the end of the day she got some food on the table that's right that's right and it's about being thankful for the fact that she got food on a table that's right I'm with you know I'm saying and Christmas is coming up so that's like you know November days give us like the buffer you want to spend too much money on that that holiday I'm with you got to save all that for Christmas. You gotta get the gifts for Christmas for the kids. You're right. You feel me? So it's like, I'm good. I'm not spending that bread. I'm spending the bread for
Starting point is 00:23:44 Christmas. I do wonder why she didn't tell her the rest of the family though. She spent $500 the previous year and she didn't have it to spend this year. Why not just say that? Why not just tell the folks like, hey man, you know things tight, the cost of everything is up? That's the only thing. So y'all going to have to chip in or y'all have to bring your own dishes if you're going
Starting point is 00:24:00 to have things giving dinner? She should have said something because I ain't going to lie if I walk in the house and I only see spaghetti. I'm like, yo, damn, I had my mouth set on turkey wings and all that. Like, and you only got spaghetti. So, and they must go to her house every year. Right. Like, she must be the one that always hosts, but she ain't have it this year.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Imagine if that's a mother-in-law, though. You go to your mother-in-law's house. You walk in and just spaghetti. Damn. And also, too, now you're realizing why those turkey drives and those food drives that people be knowing just why they mean so much during this time of year because people don't be having. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Well, let's go to one more caller. Hello, who's this? Aisha from Greatestown, North Carolina. Hey, Aisha from North Carolina. How are you feeling? I'm great. I just have a couple of work. Good.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Now, what's your thoughts? Now, you get to the house and there's only spaghetti there. How are you feeling? So, yes, I'll be upset by the same time. Yes, groceries do cost money. And if you really want me to cook that bad, then just pick ten.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Everybody, you know, family coming over. Give me about $30.50 per family, and I'll make stuff to happen. That's right. All right. Thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome.
Starting point is 00:25:01 You're new too now. What's the moral of the story? Man, do what you can. But definitely look out for your family, help your family. You feel me? Don't be upset about it. Don't get too upset about it. Like you said, in my opinion, Thanksgiving is about coming together.
Starting point is 00:25:17 You know, like you said, the fellowship. I take both of what y'all said and put it together. Yeah, it's about food. It's about the fellowship. It's about the family. And what you're most grateful and thankful for, you feel me? And if you don't have gratitude, like, if you go to somebody's house and you're like, oh, so you got a spaghetti?
Starting point is 00:25:32 Yeah. You're turning your nose up at it. You're missing the whole reason for the season. Isn't it about gratitude? Yeah. And not only that. And that's why, you know, in this time of the season, it's always a blessing to be able to give back.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And that's why those turkey drives, those food drives where people get those foods. I know a lot of times they're like, oh, they're just doing a turkey drive. But as you can see, that is well-needed at times where people can't afford it. So if you can make sure you do give back or even if you just can just go to those events
Starting point is 00:25:57 and be a volunteer as well. And we got just with the mess coming up. It's a little DBT too, man. Yeah, no, for real. But also, no, the more of the story is they could have went to Golden Corral this year, too. Yeah, this year they did this their first time doing that way. They had Thanksgiving dinner, and it was like discounted, crazy. Like turkey, yams, everything, like traditional Thanksgiving soul food, they had that.
Starting point is 00:26:21 So if somebody come in my house, oh, yeah, you only got spaghetti here, take your ass down the street. That might be the play next year, because how much you think of play for $3? Yeah. But they got everything there. They got the yams. They got turkey. They got ham. They got mac and cheese.
Starting point is 00:26:33 And you can take it. to go. You could have took it to go. You couldn't sit there. I mean, you didn't have to sit there if you didn't want to, but you could have took it to go. Yep. Commercials was all over the place for that. Wow. Yeah, so. This is the breakfast club aboard it. Morning everybody. It's DJMV. Jess Alaray and the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lawlerosa's here as well. Now, you know, Thanksgiving is one of my favorite holidays because I get to spend it with my whole family. Now, I was tell her gear that one of my favorite memories growing up was my mom cooking Thanksgiving and dinner and playing some of her favorite records on her old record player. Now as a family,
Starting point is 00:27:06 my family would come over. We would listen to Motown, the Gat Band, my dad would be dancing. Now this year, my parents are coming over to my house. So I want to recreate that old family nostalgia. So I went to their house last week and got some of their favorite records from the basement. Now, Gia thought it would be a great idea to find our family record players. So I went on eBay and found the exact model. It's a vintage series AMF. A decade ago, I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers. But it wasn't until 2023 when he was finally caught. The answers were there hidden in plain sight. So why did it take so long to catch him? I'm
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Starting point is 00:32:21 Envy. Just hilarious. Sholomein the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, this conversation is when Gucci Main and his wife Kish Kior stopped through talk about his new book episodes they talk marriage, mental health and everything. So we're going to get into that. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Morning everybody is DJ NV Jess Salarius. Charlamagne de Guy. We are the breakfast club. Laun LaRose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. Yes indeed. We got Gucci May and his wife Kish Keog. Hi guys. Welcome. How y'all feeling? Y'all look amazing. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:32:53 New bookout episodes. Yes. Man, I thoroughly enjoyed your book, Gucci, man. Because, you know, we give people props when we were younger for being real. A lot of things that we say is real. It's like when somebody gangster, or somebody, you know, we call them tough. But to me, the most realest thing you can do is you get old there, just be vulnerable. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:13 And go on a journey of healing and share that journey with people. And you definitely did that in this book. Thank you. I appreciate that. I always see you talking about mental health. I'll be listening to y'all. You are always championing mental health. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:33:23 I said, make sure y'all get that book to Charlotte. before I come up there absolutely I knew you was gonna read it absolutely yeah so what got you to the point where you said this is the time to share the story because most people would say like you know I don't want to share that story it might be embarrassing it might make me look this way but you are open and completely open about it what got you to that point was like this is the time I think I had a when I had an episode in like 2019 or 2020 around COVID and that was just like after that I was like man I got to really just hold myself accountable and take care of my health I don't
Starting point is 00:33:51 never want to have an episode again I'm like I'm gonna see a therapist if I had to take medicine I just I kind of like through the towel and like you know what I need to do to get better I just never want to have that happen again and then my wife was pregnant with my little boy and I'm like I don't never want to raise a family and then my mental help gone with if I have an episode I can't come back from you know what I'm saying so I just like starting to do the work and like start seeking the help and Keisha I'm glad you here because we always have conversations about the people who have to deal with the individuals with the mental mental mental health issues. Nope. It feels like nobody ever speaks to y'all. It's tough. What made you not run? Because you could have ran.
Starting point is 00:34:31 You could have been like, I'm out. Nah, this ain't for me. But you stood 10 toes down and said, I'm going. I experienced him going through episodes before we were married. And I was like, man, somebody got to help this guy. It was really, really bad. It's really sad because you're seeing someone you don't know. They're saying things to you that are disrespectful, so mean.
Starting point is 00:34:52 And you have to just like, but I'm not talking to Gucci. Who is this person? So I felt like if I left, he wouldn't have been the same. He needed someone to help him. And then when we were supposed to get married, someone said to me, you know you're going to have to deal with this through your marriage, right? And I'm like, I'm cool with it.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I'm going to fix him, you know. How heavy was that for you, though? Because the fixing isn't like an overnight thing. I saw Gucci, you did big facts, and you were talking about how one time you said to him, I should record this so that you can see because he wouldn't even remember some of the things he was doing, but it would like, you'd be like, oh my God, like what's happening right now?
Starting point is 00:35:27 Yeah. How heavy was it in the process of trying to help him get better? It was one point I had to just go on my knees and pray because it's like, he's like, I don't like you. I mean, the things he would say are really, really bad. And I just have to like take a deep breath. Like I said, I'm not talking to you right now. You want to sit here and be crazy alone?
Starting point is 00:35:46 I'm not going to allow you to be crazy alone. Yeah. So like I have to like set a plan up. Like at one point, I called his attorney. I called some bodyguards, and I just planned a whole kidnap, and we kidnapped him and took him to the hospital because we could not get him to the hospital. But he was trying to fight them and everything, but it was six of them. He couldn't handle it.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And we threw him in the car. He would try to jump out the car. So we put him in the center of the car, you know? And that was like his last episode. That's a 5150, right? That's what they call it? When you go to the like, yeah. Yeah, but they try to do things where he could sign himself out.
Starting point is 00:36:21 And I'm like, he's not signed. Like, I'm stern with them. He's not signing himself out. I'm his wife, and I'm his power of attorney. He ain't going nowhere. Like, I have to be strict. It's kind of like you have to go in mother mode, you know, and put your foot down. Were you ever scared?
Starting point is 00:36:36 I wasn't never scared he would hurt me. People were scared for me, but it's a scary moment. Because I asked her that, was she scared, and she was like, I'm not scared of you. I tell him all the time I'm doing it. I'm not scared of you, so we're going to figure this out. Like, I have to get gangster with him because he, and I'm like, all right, we're going to see. let's do this you know
Starting point is 00:36:55 in the ice cream fever dreams chapter goose you said that the only you said when you need help the only person you can rely on is yourself why did you feel that way in that moment because that's how I felt especially like you really
Starting point is 00:37:10 the only person you can do like you got to do the work yourself you know what I'm saying if you want to like really get better people can want it for you but you still got to want it more than they do you know what I'm saying you got to want you got to do the work you got to live with it
Starting point is 00:37:21 you know what I'm saying so that's probably why I say at that. The reason I asked is because you start the book off talking about Big Scar. And you know, you and Keisha definitely helped Big Scar in that moment when he was having an episode. Yes. I mean, you did help somebody.
Starting point is 00:37:35 No, I was trying my best to say, Scar. I was trying my best to say Scar. And, like, even, he was a big inspiration for the book as well. But what was like, when I reached out to my, the co-writer Kathy on writing the book, I was telling her about, you know, like, how I helped Scar. And, you know, my wife was talking to me, but she was on, like, I wouldn't even let Scott know that she was telling me the stuff to tell him. Like, while we writing the book, like discussing the book and just going over how we're going
Starting point is 00:37:59 going to make it, Scott died. So I hear her like, you know, Scott and passed away. It was all, it went for him being the inspiration. Before I can he finish the book, he passed away. So that was just super deep. And it made me like, I got to do this. I got to even be more vulnerable because I'm going to help people that I don't even know because I was trying to help somebody who was so close to me.
Starting point is 00:38:16 You know what I'm saying? And I didn't even, and I didn't succeed. You know, when you break down in the book, that September 13 episode, right yeah and you said you don't even remember a lot of the things that you said did you have to go back and say you know what let me fix some of those situations yes and who did you call first
Starting point is 00:38:33 to say let me fix that because we were on air that morning yeah and we just remember it's like damn Gucci just going crazy on everybody and the sad thing about it is for media press is like that's gold at first like oh this that the other day when you sit back and look at it but like damn like maybe we shouldn't have went that hard and promoted
Starting point is 00:38:51 because we can see now he was going through episode so the first question you explained that in the book about the media's role in that yeah but just to answer envy I was super embarrassed and hurt by the things I said because like I wasn't well then right so then I got locked up so a lot of those people who I was saying stuff too
Starting point is 00:39:07 they were like I ain't up they never gonna mess with me no more so even when I got out three years later I still was like I apologize to Ross Drake Nicky like all them people accept them my apologies they just don't know it's like a weight off my shoulders because I had me like because I was wrong like Ross hadn't did nothing but help me you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:39:24 and I said something about him Birdman did all this stuff for me why would I say something about him so I felt bad you know what I'm saying I felt terribly bad and it was just even it was like it was super heavy on me you know what I'm saying so I apologize to everybody everybody that would accept my
Starting point is 00:39:39 apology I apologize everybody who would accept my call I apologize to you just think anybody who I was dissing I apologize to when you see artists doing that now do you know exactly what they're going to yes I do we were like Since that's going through episode, I can see it because I'd have been through it.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And I'd be like, I'd be feeling sorry for them, you know what I'm saying? But because I see the media, they just go with it. Like, this person, like, mad or they being, you know, like, mean or whatever. But they'd be, like, going through something really mental. It would be some mental help stuff going on. Do you reach out to any of those artists? I'm trying to think, did I reach out? Now, I don't do a lot of reaching out because some of them, like, I feel like they wouldn't be accepting of it.
Starting point is 00:40:18 You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, you wouldn't be accepted at the point at that time. Yeah, you don't. Yeah, at that point, you can't really talk to them like that. But like my wife said, I wish I could talk to the people that know them to tell them how to help them. You know what I'm saying? I tried to reach out to Kim when Kanye was going through an episode. It bothered me so much, but I don't know her.
Starting point is 00:40:37 And I didn't want to feel like a groupie. Yeah. So I tried to send messages to people. I never succeeded. But this was during their marriage. I'm like, damn, I want to talk to her so bad. Like, I can help you, but I never was successful. We talked about that on aired the other day because she sat down and called her daddy.
Starting point is 00:40:51 and talked about what it was like in like on the inside by also trying to protect their public image and the way she thought people would look at her if she decided to leave for you what was it like i mean just because we're talking about ken what was it like just trying to protect the business that you guys have built while i have a system i take his apps off his phone first thing i do i delete instagram i delete everything even if i got to change his password i'm changing it because i don't need the public to know he's having an episode and now before the episodes come I catch it. So that's why he hasn't had another one. And how you catch that is he doesn't speak to you. He wants to be left alone. He don't eat. He does not sleep. Text messages.
Starting point is 00:41:33 There's a period after each word. And I'm like, you're going through an episode. You're sick. No, I'm not. Ain't that wrong with me. Why do you think that? You're not speaking to me. Well, there's nothing to talk about.
Starting point is 00:41:44 I said, well, that's not how you speak to your wife. And I'm like, you're sick. And we snap out of it right then. Wow. Wow. All right, we got more with Gucci Main when we come back and K.R. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. J. Salarious. Salameen Nagar. We are the Breakfast Club. Lawlerosa is here as well. We're still kicking it with Gucci, Maine and K.R.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Keisha, do you wish you were around when, you know, I look at Gucci. And if you really think about all the artists that he has touched and could have signed, he could have been bigger than any label out there. If you go through them, we can go from Thug to Waka to the Migos to the list. goes on and on. Do you think... Yeah, Walker. Waka was something. Yeah. Do you think if I was there, I could have helped them build that empire? Because he could have been really like an Atlanta deaf jam.
Starting point is 00:42:30 A thousand percent. Even like we had this conversation many years ago, I said, Gucci, you just have to accept that you are not well and fix it. Just accept it. I said, people take Tylenol every day. Just take your medication every day. You'll be fine. Just accept that you're sick. Fix it and you'll be okay. And absolutely, he had so many artists from back in the day and because of this, you know, they re-signed with other people or whatever the situation is and it pisses me off because none of them respects
Starting point is 00:42:59 him, I don't, or give him the credit like Gucci signed me, Gucci's the one that got me out to slum, Gucci's the one that changed my life. None of them talks about that, not one of them. Does that bother you? Because it's a lot of artists that are multi-platinum that are still selling records that you were the
Starting point is 00:43:15 first person to give my opportunity to. We can name the list, but the list goes on and on. I feel like, you know, I had to hold myself a accountable. I got locked up. I messed up the opportunity. You know what I'm saying? But I'm not saying that they don't have to pay me homage. I appreciate it. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, that's part of how I was raising just who I am. I get fulfillment out of helping artists. You know what I'm saying? I was reaching out to them trying to help them because I saw talent in them. And not just Southern artists.
Starting point is 00:43:38 No, not just Southern artists. DJ, producers, whatever. That's just like who I am. You know what I'm saying? I'm an open door studio. I'm going to bring people in. I'm going to work with the up and coming. That's what I like to do. You get what I'm saying? If it didn't work out the way it did, because I got locked up I got to say hey I got myself locked up
Starting point is 00:43:54 you know I messed that up but since then I've been doing I've been doing well since I got out I've been on you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:44:00 been a whole different everything been going good I always wondered did any of those artists reach out when you were locked up and say let me help
Starting point is 00:44:05 no let me say this though Keith she said nope let me say this it is still kind of like paying it forward because when I got
Starting point is 00:44:12 out all those artists did come back and do songs with me you know what I'm saying but when you were down did they help they didn't
Starting point is 00:44:18 they don't acknowledge him He doesn't care or feel that way But from the outside looking in They should acknowledge him You know I feel like Gucci gets looked at As a hip hop pillar though I feel like he should
Starting point is 00:44:31 I feel like Gucci gets his just do As an iconic figure in hip hop And all the artists he put on No But would you like to see Keith I would like them All of them to acknowledge him Even if they win an award
Starting point is 00:44:45 Acknowledge him Because he gave you the stomping ground Most people don't know Nicky Minaj came out of that camp French Montana came up that camp Most people don't know Half those people We know
Starting point is 00:44:55 But most people don't know that Migos, thugs, thugs Stug like most people Because they don't say it You're right I love the chapter pills And potion too Because you said you feel guilty
Starting point is 00:45:06 For making the song pills Because you made a whole generation Start getting High on pills How do you rectify that guilt I can live with it now Because it's like it is What it is
Starting point is 00:45:16 You know what I'm saying But back then I know that I made a lot of people use drugs I talked about drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs, all through my music because that's what I was on back then and I'm just like, damn, I know I made a whole bunch of people think pills was cool. I know that for a fact, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:45:30 And that ain't nothing I'm just super proud of, you know. But what can I do? It's in the past now. And at the same time, I was also a user too, so I was going through it with them. Yeah. Interesting about that chapter, too. You said that your whole team didn't like that song.
Starting point is 00:45:44 They didn't. Because I'm sure some of them was on pills too. What was it just they didn't like the record when I first like I even when I had like one foot in one foot out a lot of my guys who were hustling We used to think I like my crew of hustling But it's they think like pills and stuff like there was like jacket stuff You know what I'm saying? They think like if you do coat you like a junkie you take pills you're a junkie They only was cool with smoking weed even taking the drunken lane they thought was some jacket stuff right So they really they say they take away from the money you see what I'm saying so it's like you're doing if you're taking pills you're supposed to be selling the pills
Starting point is 00:46:14 So when I came out with pills they went with that They was like, bro, what you're making a song about taking pills for? Then the song ended up blowing up. But they didn't like that song. Yeah. When you did verses, right? What was your mind frame during verses? And Keisha, when he, you knew he was doing verses against somebody that was his arch enemy at the time, right?
Starting point is 00:46:35 What was your mind frame? Because you knew at any moment, it could have went back. Did you want him to do it? I told him not to. I said, you're not doing that. I said, I will pay you a million dollars not to do this. She told me that. Swear to God.
Starting point is 00:46:47 She's like, I pay you a million dollars not to do the verses. I'm like, I'm going to do the verses. So for people that don't know, how did that verses come about? And what was your mind to do the songs that you did in that moment? Because, I mean, I think everybody felt it watching and people that were, they were like, oh, this is going to end up nasty. Well, I'm trying to think. I heard, I seen an interview what Jesus was saying, like, if I do it versus,
Starting point is 00:47:11 I want to do it with Gucci, right? So after that, Pha had hit me like, break. you heard Jesus say he wanted to do a verse with you would you do it and i was like i don't know if i don't know if i want to do no verse i ain't really really there yet then he came back like bro i thought this would be big if you do it so next thing you know swiss and larry jackson end up hearing me and we end up doing so we're going to do the verses right and my mind frame going into it was like it's going to it was like it was i was excited about it like because all the previous verses was so big so i'm like man it's dope you know what i'm saying
Starting point is 00:47:40 it's going to be big for me everybody going to be like my catalog going to go up people going just so outlooking, I was excited about it. And, oh, actually, Gizi said, he said here on Breakfast Club, he wanted to do it with you, but you turned it down. I mean, to be honest, what you like, from what I hear, he did respectfully decline, which I respect, you know what I'm saying, no disrespect. And, you know, I guess he looked at it, the way I looked at it,
Starting point is 00:48:03 just like, yo, bro, like, there ain't nobody else they want to see us with. And for once, at least mentally, it can be about the music. And, you know, instead of it just being me and him and our personal feelings, it's like, now you've got the world watching. So as a man, I wasn't going to not do it because of what happened because that's what the platform was for.
Starting point is 00:48:27 That's what that conversation was. That was back in 2020. I don't think I turned it down. I think I turned down doing versus, period. But I was open to do the versus. When they finally broke it down to me, like, okay, this is the business about it. All this good can come out of it.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I'm like, okay, I'm going to do it. it. Keisha, you didn't want to do it because you knew he could potentially have an episode? No, I just don't trust it. I don't know. God forbid, G.C. go say the wrong thing and things pop off. I ain't got time.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Where were you when he was doing it? I was pregnant at home, no? He didn't want me there. So you were watching it? My hands was wet. Sweating. I'm nervous. I'm like, Lord Jesus helped me with this. So what were you thinking when he did that song? What did he did that song? What do you think that song? Like, oh, my goodness. I'm just like this. Like every, like any normal
Starting point is 00:49:11 person I'm in the bed watching it like everybody else scared and Jeezy you said you were lucky that I'm sorry Jeezy sorry sorry sorry Gucci you said that you were happy that Jeezy took the moment to kind of like kind of shift the energy of it in hindsight I'm like I respect the way he did what he said you know what I'm saying and I you know what he said made sense you know what I'm saying but at that moment in the moment like in the heat of the moment I wasn't thinking like I'm happy he said that he the moment I was just like man what is he talking about You know what I'm saying? Let's get on to what we're doing. I ain't, but when I look back on, I'm like, that was smart.
Starting point is 00:49:48 You know what I'm saying? That was smart. And it was deep. Did you? Did you speak before? Y'all did the versus personally? Oh, y'all did speak beforehand. How was that conversation?
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Starting point is 00:54:43 He's sitting in my seat, right? So I'm like, damn, I don't even want to talk to him, but I got to tell this dude, get out my seat. So it's like, I'm like, hey man, you got to get out my seat, but he's see who it is. He's like, well, I'm sitting in the same seat. Can you sit in my? I'm like, nah, I can't sit in your seat. You just got to get up. That was the conversation we had part of it.
Starting point is 00:55:02 If there would be anybody else, you probably would be like, God, go ahead and sit there. You got to get up. You got to get up. And he don't want to get up. I can't, because my pride won't let me say that you in my seat and I just, okay, I'm going to sit over here. Yeah. Now, dog, get up. What was that?
Starting point is 00:55:15 But his pride won't allow him to be like, man, told me to get up. You're right. Oh, he got up and moved. Yeah, that's funny because I remember 50 and John said the first time they seen each other was on a flight. They were both, it's like, you can't while out in there because you're going to jail. So you've got to be easy. But no, in your first book, you said y'all had dinner somewhere before. No, we, we met up at a, uh, a.
Starting point is 00:55:37 restaurant yeah yeah so we had met before but i'm saying this since i got out that was like we met at that restaurant way way back that was like 2010 or something like that what is it like now like have you guys spoken since versus and you know both you are so evolved at this point i did interview on big facts and i'm like it ain't really been no disrespect since then everybody everything cool but you know they're okay we're okay all right we got more with Gucci man and kish kio when we come back his new book episodes is out today it's the breakfast club good morning Everybody is D.J. N.V. H.S. hilarious. Charlemagne de Guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Laurel Roles is here as well. We're still kicking in with Gucci Man and K.R. Lauren. I saw you say that going to East Atlanta sometimes, like, triggers different episodes for you. You could talk about that. Were you about to say something? No, I'm saying it does trigger me going to East Atlanta. In writing this book, what other things from your upbringing did you realize, like, oh, that was one of my triggers of these episodes and I didn't even know, like, family stuff or just, you know, stuff from, like, young?
Starting point is 00:56:37 Yeah, like, stuff with my mom triggers me. We had like a screen relationship. Stuff from my youth triggered me. You know, old friendships, you know, that went sour. There's a lot of stuff can be triggers. You know, some songs even trigger me. You know, just from like, like you said, like a scaring relationships, like even hearing so icy, I don't like hearing so ice.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Wow. You know, it's kind of like a trigger. Stay scrap would be a trigger. You know what I'm saying? hearing that like I got 10K on your body like that way I said I probably couldn't have took that you know like that would trigger me you don't do those songs
Starting point is 00:57:13 anymore don't do them songs what triggered you more East Atlanta or um what is it Burma Alabama Alabama? Burma Burma Hamilton Bresma Bessma Bessma. I would say East Atlanta but I don't want to
Starting point is 00:57:25 I don't want to Bustma kind of depresses me because it's like when you go down now it's so like it's like damn you know what I'm saying it's like damn it's a tough place to grow up at and when I go back there it's like it down to make me cry just looking at
Starting point is 00:57:39 the buildings and the high because you're from a small town so you know how I'm from a it's so small and rural and like you know it's no money down now you know what I'm saying so it just looked it feels dark and East Atlanta just dangerous
Starting point is 00:57:53 it's still dangerous it's always going to be dangerous it just when I go there it just make me change it made me like I just I'm going to turn to a different person like the corners the blocks just I just reliving all the stuff I did on those blocks, you know, the people there, it's just, I try to stay away from triggers.
Starting point is 00:58:13 And you say, even reading the book and seeing the effects that, like, systemic racism had on you, like, watching the KKK, you know, march through your time. Is that still a trigger in that? It kind of is. It is. It is. I still, like, hold some of that stuff in me, you know what I'm saying? That I seen when I was young from best one.
Starting point is 00:58:31 That's why I kept my labor 10-17 because I'm like, I don't ever want to forget, even though I was raised in Atlanta, people I always associate me with Atlanta. I never want to forget, you know, the life I led there, and I never want to forget, like, my family there and what they're going through. You said during the big facts interview that the police, you feel like they still have it out for you in Atlanta. I feel like they did. They did back when I first go. I feel like, because they used to do stuff, like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:58:57 Like I would be, when I first had got out of jail, I would go places and the police would just run my name. You know what I'm saying? And then I was on probation. So my probation, I was like, hey, these people are you. you go to such and such because the police ran your name and they were just trying to see if I they just they just it's just too much so what do you tell artists like
Starting point is 00:59:13 your thugs and your little babies that probably feel the same way as you do you say it might be time to get out of Atlanta I told the baby that I've been told the baby hey man you might be too big for the city you might need to move I know what I'm saying I never got a chance to tell I thought that but I definitely told baby that before because he used to be there baby used to be there just
Starting point is 00:59:29 walking around like regular like in grocery stores and everything because he's so comfortable I got to comfort that like even time I want If I'm in Atlanta and I have an episode, I go straight to my block because I know that block like the back of my hand. I'm always like, I always go there. It's like, for me, it's like, it's too for me for me. You know what I'm saying? It's too for me.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Sometimes something too for me for you, you got to get away from that because it's too much comfort there. It ain't no growth in comfort. I need to be where like I'm held accountable. You can get held accountable. If I go to East Atlanta, lean coming, weed coming. All I got to do is just stand on the block. I want to ask you, Keisha. How do you define recovery?
Starting point is 01:00:06 Because you're seeing them at it's worse and now you're seeing them at its best. So how would you define recovery for somebody that is dealing with somebody who's trying to recover from their mental health issues? The first thing you need is medication. You cannot, it cannot go on medicated. And the quicker, the better.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Because once they're medicated, they usually get better in like two weeks. It's not overnight. It's literally like 14 days for them to be back to normal. So for him, like, let's say he started his medication after an episode. He started his medication today, right? Three days later, he would like, oh, my wife, you're so beautiful. I could tell by his words that he's getting better.
Starting point is 01:00:45 And then tomorrow he might say, and I'm like, oh, shit, he's not better yet. Like, I could just tell by his tone. Who do you talk to, Keish? Like, do you have a therapist? No, I'm my own. I'm the therapist. He'll tell you, I'm like a real therapist. I know how to speak to him.
Starting point is 01:01:02 You have to speak calm. You cannot scream. Sometimes you have to agree with what he's saying. Like he'll say, give me $500 grand. And I'm like, okay. I don't do it, but I say okay. Whatever he asks for, I say yes, but I don't do it. But you can't go against them.
Starting point is 01:01:18 So he'll text somebody and cuss him out, and I'll go back to his phone and I'll say, block him. He's having an episode. So I'm just a clean-up lady. Listen, I got to say this. You remember Julie, Julia Greenwald used to be the head of Atlanta. I had an episode and said so much bad stuff to Judy that when I came from the episode, I said, listen, Julia, from now on, if I text you anything crazy, block me for, block me.
Starting point is 01:01:42 And call my life. Don't call me for two days and call my wife because this episode coming because I ain't want to lose my position at the label going through episode. And she's like, I'm like, if you just see like the text is getting crazy, just block me. Because I don't want to say, come tell you, I start saying stuff so bad. It's like you can't come back from it. Guja, we've seen it before, Goo. But how do you protect your peace, though? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Like you? Because there has to be times where you feel like the walls are just caving in because it's so much and it's so personal for you. Honestly, I, during the moment, I'm kind of like stressed out. I'm a prayer warrior. I just pray. And once he starts getting better, honestly, I'm okay. And he doesn't stay sick long.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Like I said, it takes 14 days to get him back. and after like day three he's already coming to his senses but those deep episodes won't happen ever again where in 25 so the last one was five years ago he had a mild one coming maybe two years ago and I caught it so now I catch them before they come
Starting point is 01:02:47 and like people be saying stuff about him like oh he's soft he's this he that the madman is still there so I try my best I don't want them to provoke him because it will come back and he's very dangerous So y'all listen, please leave him alone Because the Mad Max is still in the head
Starting point is 01:03:04 Yeah, when I saw young thugs say that I was just like, man, you know, thugs is just young. Yeah, they don't understand. Gucci ain't soft, he just grown. Yeah. He grew up, he's grown, he's evolved. I thought it was hearing you talk about why you call young thugs so quick
Starting point is 01:03:18 when he dropped the Miss My Dogs because you understood with that apology like you were there. I thought that was like really, it was really great to hear. What was your conversation like? I didn't call him. I just forget.
Starting point is 01:03:28 I just, I'm saying I forgive him. Oh, so y'all didn't actually talk. Never talk. Oh, wow. So he found out you forgave him on that interview. Yeah. Has he reached out to you since the interview? To be honest, he was like, he hit me like, let's talk, but I ain't really want to talk.
Starting point is 01:03:42 But I do forgive him. I just didn't want to talk. Yeah, I understand. I'm the same way. I can forgive you. At certain times, I just don't need you here. And that's wrong with that. Need a long time.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Do you mind being the OG? And the reason I say that is, is you look at Atlanta, you see everything that Atlanta's going through. Gucci is that one person that can stop it all, I think, because every artist in Atlanta respects you. Do you mind that, that label as the OG that can do that, or you just say, you know what? I like been an OG. I do. You know what I'm saying? Like, I've been in the game 20 years now, so, like, I embraced it.
Starting point is 01:04:15 You know, I'm not the high artist trying to drop out, you know, the hottest single every year and do how that. You know, I want to be the person that they can come to and talk to. But you want to do that with everything that's going on in Atlanta? Yeah, I would. I would. I feel like if they were coming. to me but I feel like people don't come to me for advice because it's like even with my own artist it's like a lot of them you know don't come to me because it's like talking to
Starting point is 01:04:38 your dad I ain't got nothing but positive to say I'm trying to lead by example and I'm gonna tell you like you shouldn't do this you shouldn't so they don't even want to talk to me they would they'd love to talk to old Gucci but new Gucci they don't want to talk to new Gucci because new Gucci ain't really got anything going on he go to sleep at 830 like he ain't on that morning everybody is DJ NV just hilarious Charlamaine the guy we are the breakfast Club. Laurel Lowe Roses here as well. We're still kicking it with Gucci Man and K.R. Sholomein?
Starting point is 01:05:05 What emotional release did writing this book give you that music couldn't? I'm so I'm more proud of this book than I'm probably like in the album I ever put out because like you said, it's kind of like talking about stuff that I used to be kind of like had a stigma of you know what I'm saying? You got million to help. You crazy. It's like I used to be embarrassed about some of these situations and I didn't used to want to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:05:24 But now I'm confident in talking about it because I know that I can help somebody else. And it's like I don't even feel. I don't feel no shame no more. And the conversations that you've been having recently, you know, have you begin to help people in that space where you're like, yo. I did it like everybody, people, I did a book signing in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:05:43 And a lot of folks are coming to me saying, hey, you know, thank you for this book. I've been sober eight years. Or thank you for this book. You know, I got bipolar. Thank you for this book. My friend, you know what I said, me going through episodes.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Like, I was getting a lot of it. And it felt good to feel that love. You know what I'm saying? It really did. Are you still surprised? about the love I heard you say something you were in Miami doing a book signing and you were surprised about how many people came up to me
Starting point is 01:06:05 and asked for an autograph for your book but then I'm thinking about it I'm like you just did South Carolina home coming that was sold out you just did this show that was sold out so I tell them that all the time yeah like it's different when they come up like with that book I don't know why but it's like the book signing when they say I bought your book
Starting point is 01:06:21 you know I've been rocking with you since I was in junior high you got me through college like it just the energy it was like it made me feel good I ain't thought that in a long time, you know, like, touching the people, shaking their hand, taking a selfie with them. It's like, when you do that, it's about two, 300 people, and they're telling you that.
Starting point is 01:06:37 You can't do nothing but feel good. As I said, you're like a mythical figure to a whole generation. You got sexy red calling herself the female Gucci Man. South Carolina State, them kids asked for you. Like, I've seen the list. I'm like, I don't even know who that is.
Starting point is 01:06:53 It was about five. I'm like, I don't even know who these people are, but they were like, oh, Gucci, man. I know Gucci. Like, they wanted you at South Carolina State. How did that make you feel knowing a whole generation. No, that feel good. That feel good. When I go through this,
Starting point is 01:07:03 I've been doing a lot of college, I do Norfolk State on Tuesday. But, like, every time I go to these colleges and there, like, the kids know all the words, you know what I'm saying? They're 19 years old. It's like, bro, you're still touching people 19 years old. They know these songs. They're singing songs that came out of 2005, 2006.
Starting point is 01:07:19 How old are we out then? So that feel good. How do you feel, Keesha, when you see sexy red call itself the female Gucci? I love it. I love when younger artists pay homage to him. like I'd be in the background like when people don't pay homage to him or treat him with respect I'd be mad
Starting point is 01:07:35 he don't get mad or whatever but I watch everything online and I analyze it and if anybody go against him I'm going against them too I was going to ask does the book because you said you know seeing people come up to you with the book
Starting point is 01:07:48 is like a great feeling for you does the book make you feel like a superhero versus like music didn't because we talked about like our OG like rappers being like superhero which a lot of people I feel like they look at you that way. I'm super proud of being the author.
Starting point is 01:08:02 You know what I'm saying? I read a lot of books. I read people just don't know that about me, but I read a ton of books. You know what I'm saying? I probably read two, three books a month. You know what I'm saying? You're a big Michael Gladwell fan.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Huge big Michael Gladwell fan. You know what I'm saying? He just did a book, fringe of the tip point that I read, that I love, you know? But I'm proud of being an author because I love books. And so it's like, it's a different thing to be in a rapper. You know what I'm saying? I want to make some more books.
Starting point is 01:08:28 I like being a professional. relief with Arthur. I'm trying to have more books than Charlemagne. I think we're tired by now. Yeah, we're tired. I got three. I got three. I want to see Keish write a book. I really do. Because I'm telling you that the people who have to deal with those of us with mental health issues don't tell their stories enough. Yeah. I think it's harder being me than him going to an episode. Because it's
Starting point is 01:08:51 scary. Like, we had a condo. We were on like the penthouse and I'm like, is he going to jump? Is the voice going to tell him to jump like that's the scary part not me being scared of him hurting me so like during episodes i make sure no one is around him with guns knives high buildings but he wouldn't leave that that's where i had to kidnap him from he would not leave there he wouldn't come to the house and i'm like i had to get like a babysitter for him because he hated me different episodes he hate different people that if you have an episode where he hates me that's a problem he hated me He wouldn't come home.
Starting point is 01:09:27 He got the damn balcony. And I'm like, is the voice going to tell him? I can't sleep at night. I have to, what is he doing now? Did he eat today? Like, I have to play games with his friends from Atlanta who he want to be with. And then I'm like, don't give him any weed. Throw it in the garbage.
Starting point is 01:09:42 They call me back. Oh, he needs weed. I gave him wheat today. I said, no, you didn't. You know, like stuff like that. It's hard. It's so, so, so stressful. Like, you want to cry.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Yeah. And I cannot read that book. It's too sad. It's too much for me. I don't read it. I read probably like three pages and I had to quit. What about what about you, Gooch? When you got to relive all of it.
Starting point is 01:10:05 All of those traumas. That damn book almost put him in an episode. My autobiography almost made me cry. And this book almost made me cry. And I almost made him cry. That book was putting him through an episode that I called it about day one. So revisiting the trauma. Yes, it puts him back.
Starting point is 01:10:22 They do, but I can't lie. Especially the best man. Alabama part, it's like, damn, that take me back down. You know, it's like, then I started thinking about it, you know, when I was young, my granddad and my mom, like, damn, we was poor. Then I'm like, I don't think about that anymore. You know what I was like,
Starting point is 01:10:37 I know we were poor, but it ain't like nothing I dwell on when you go back to think about it. Like, damn, man, we're in the racist-ass-ass-town, we're poor as hell, you know, staying with my granddad, me and my mom, my brother's like, we ain't have shit. Yeah. We ain't have a... So how do you protect yourself while are you visiting that
Starting point is 01:10:53 trauma? And on a press run. Yeah, and how do you, how Do you protect him? Well, the press run doesn't bother him. It's just like when he was writing the book because he has to keep saying these things over and over and over. And actually, this was my idea. I was like, you need to do a movie called Episode and let people know what's going on.
Starting point is 01:11:10 I said, I can tell you everything you've done through your episodes because he doesn't remember. And I was telling him how to make the movie. And that's how we started with the book. Because she told me to make a movie. As soon as he had the episode, I was like, this people need to see this. We all married the beautiful black woman,
Starting point is 01:11:24 But I want Gucci, you tell me how important is it to have a good woman, man? It's the most important thing you can have. It's the best decision you can make. My best decision ever was to marry her and be with her. Right, I got somebody to, you know, hold me accountable. And I got somebody, you know, watch TV with it. Sometimes that's all you want to do.
Starting point is 01:11:43 That's true. I'm kind of like, I don't really need a lot. We're just like best friends and we just home, just chilling. And everything we do, we have it in common. and we like the same food, the same shows. We both boring. We like to travel, but we like to just go to bed. If you could redefine what it means to be real
Starting point is 01:12:03 and hip-hop culture, what new code would you give this new generation? Oh, man, I let them know, like, they talk about their hood, but the best hood is fatherhood. That's what I'm most proud of, you know what I'm saying? I love being called dad. You know, I love being a present dad. That's like, I didn't even know that it was so much joy
Starting point is 01:12:24 and raising kids that it is. But, you know what I'm saying? Raising the family has changed me. It has changed me for the better. I just want to say the biggest thing that made me so happy is when you see Gucci talk about his kids, I don't know if you see the smile on his kids. Oh, my God, he's in love with him.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Oh, my God. He started smiling and started grinning. He's like, I can't wait to get back and get to my son's this. Like, that is the biggest thing. If I just call him right now, he'll leave. Do you feel like a generational curse breaker? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:12:53 I know my little boy, he's going to inherit all this. He got so much, he's so turnt up. He'll trust for him, baby. Ain't no wrong with it. He ain't wrong with it. He ain't wrong with it. That's right. Man, go get episodes right now, man.
Starting point is 01:13:07 The Diary of a Recovering Madman. There's some books that are good. This is good, but it's also important, man. It is important. And my album out today, too, Shulam, man. That's an episode. I ain't even get that album yet. I didn't even get that album yet.
Starting point is 01:13:18 It's Gucci, man. Kishi Kior. Thank you so much for joining us. You used to listen to the breakfast club in the morning when you worked out. I don't know if you still do, but you got to come back. I listen to y'all every day before I go to the gym, and my favorite part is the positive note of the day. There we go.
Starting point is 01:13:29 No, Charlemagne, he loves that. He listens to all your positives. As soon as I'm going to the gym, we're on the gym, we listen to y'all, but he's like, the positive note of the day, hey, stop, let me hear what he's saying. That's what you do. All right, it's the breakfast club. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:13:44 It's time for don't give the day. It's a read, but you're so good at it. You're trying to be a fake-ass Charlemagne. You only want Charlemagne to go. Damn so, man. Who do you give a donkey of the day to now? Well, sexy red, donkey today going to a 65-year-old man named Richard Lombardi. Also, fun fact, Dick is a common nickname for the name Richard.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Why, I don't know, but Richard, our Dick Lombardi is absolutely living up to his name. See, there are people among us who judge you for doing simple things like coughing, sneezing, okay? Now, I don't know if this judgment started during COVID. Remember when COVID had folks scared to cough around us? people, we was treating coughs like farts, I personally don't fart around people, because I'm farting my clothes. Yeah, right. And when a man farts around another
Starting point is 01:14:30 man, that's flirting, because why are you bringing attention to your ass in my presence? Why do you want me to know what your ass may or may not smell like? My point is, there are people amongst us who are so judgmental when you sneeze, when you blow your nose. I mean, they look at you crazy. They run and grab hand sanitizer. They start screaming for you not to touch nothing. It's a whole production.
Starting point is 01:14:49 And I'm like, why are you being a richard about this? and always remember Dick is a common nickname for Richard. Why are you like this, Jeff hilarious? Because germs. Germs is crazy. And he don't cover his mouth. He will blow his nose and put the tissue right next to his eye pad. Do he cover his mouth?
Starting point is 01:15:02 No, he don't cover his mouth. That's a damn lie. I do, I'm blowing your eyes. I keep telling you that he sneezing to my elbow. You sneeze into the inside of your elbow. You don't sneeze into your hands. No, but it goes under and it crawls around your elbow. Just finish your donkey yesterday.
Starting point is 01:15:15 See what I'm saying? I simply blew my nose this morning. Just makes such a production about it that people around asking me if I'm sick. I'm like, damn. All I do is blow my nose, okay? And the reason I need just to relax is because I don't want her to end up like Richard Lombardi. See, Richard's 65 years old, and he had a
Starting point is 01:15:30 roommate. His roommate name is Frank Griswold, and Frank is 80 years old. Now, I know what you're thinking. Why the hell are a 65-year-old man and an 80-year-old man roommates? Why are Dick and Frank shacking up? I think I know the answer to that. Ain't nothing wrong with being a little gay.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Everybody's a little gay. That's not what I was thinking. Oh, okay? I was reading this story in the New York Post this morning, and these two men have been friends for three decades, and they've been living together for more than 20 years. They probably was just trying to save money. A decade ago, I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers, but it wasn't until 2023 when he was finally caught. The answers were there, hidden in plain sight. So why did it take so long to catch him? I'm Josh Zeman, and this is Monster, hunting the Long Island serial killer, the investigation into the most notorious killer.
Starting point is 01:16:20 in New York since the son of Sam available now. Listen for free on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health. And I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan,
Starting point is 01:16:38 the show's producer. And like a lot of guys, I haven't been to the doctor in many years. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Because guys usually don't go to the doctor unless a piece of their face is hanging. off or they've broken a bone. Depends which bone. Well, that's true. Every week, we're breaking down the unique world of men's health, from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility, and
Starting point is 01:17:01 things that happen in the bedroom. You mean sleep? Yeah, something like that, Jordan. We'll talk science without the jargon and get you real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. It's going to be fun, whether you're 27, 97, or somewhere in between. Men's health is about more than six packs and supplements, it's about energy, confidence, and connection. We don't just want you to live longer. We want you to live better. So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. What do you get when you mix 1950s Hollywood, a Cuban musician with a dream, and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time? You get Desi Arness, a trailblazer, a businessman, a husband, and maybe most importantly,
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Starting point is 01:18:25 as part of the MyCultura podcast network available on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What up y'all? It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers,
Starting point is 01:18:41 creators, friends, people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show. Boo, somebody had tomatoes. I'm kidding. But if they had tomatoes, they would have thrown the tomatoes. Let's be honest. We've all had those moments we'd rather forget. We bumped our head. We made a mistake. The deal fell through. We're embarrassed. We failed. We failed. but this podcast is about that and how we made it through.
Starting point is 01:19:15 So when they sat me down, they were kind of like, we got into the small talk, and they were just like, so what do you got? What? What ideas? And I was like, oh, no.
Starting point is 01:19:23 What? Check out Not My Best Moment with me, Kevin on stage on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcast, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Dr. Pryonk Wally. And I'm Hurricane DeVolu. On our new podcast Health Stuff,
Starting point is 01:19:37 we demystify your burning health questions. You'll hear us being completely honest about her own health. I'm talking about very serious stuff right now, and you're laughing at me. And you'll hear candid advice and personal stories from experts who want to make health care more human. Sometimes you're there to listen, to understand,
Starting point is 01:19:57 to empathize, maybe to give them an understanding or a name for what's going on. That helps people a lot, understanding that it's not just in their head. We are breaking down the science, talking with experts, and sharing practical health tips
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Starting point is 01:20:37 Okay, so that means they met when Frank was 50 and Richard was 35. They clearly became fast friends and have lived together for more than 20 years. What does that mean? Oh, so you're doing the vendor? No. That's not what that means. Okay, they probably just trying to fake money. They're just friends.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Y'all need to stop. This is a serious situation because Richard is in jail right now because he suffers from the same condition as just hilarious. He can't stand to be around people sneezing, coughing, blowing their nose or anything like that. And guess what? That is a condition. Okay, it has to be a condition. And that condition caused Richard to lay. land in jail. Let's go to ABC 5 for the report, please.
Starting point is 01:21:15 65-year-old Richard Lombardi in court, accused of killing his 80-year-old roommate, Frank Griswold. It happened Wednesday at the home they shared on Main Street in Marshfield. He was cooking Thanksgiving dinner, got into an argument with Mr. Griswold, the victim, that he did not want him in the kitchen touching the food. Prosecutors say that you argued, and when Lombardi saw Griswold in the kitchen, he shoved him. He did see the victim, Mr. Griswold, near that food, doing dishes. said that he went over and grabbed Mr. Griswold from behind, grabbed his back and threw Mr. Griswold to the right, tossing him to the side.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Lombardi called 911. Prosecutors say he told police Griswold's feet became tangled and he fell and hit his head. He was seen laying face up on the floor of the kitchen there in a pool of blood. Griswold was later pronounced dead. Court documents show he also had cuts on his face. Lombardi is being held without bail. He's back in court next week for a dangerousness hearing. I bet he did grab him by the back
Starting point is 01:22:14 Had that man laying face down Ass up in blood for no damn reasons It ain't that deep Okay, it's never that deep Because he sneezed over some trash ass things Giving food things Giving food is trash First of all
Starting point is 01:22:25 If you're such a germophobe Why come near me after I sneeze Also why put hands on me after I sneeze If you're a real germophobe You should be avoiding me like the plague Because I might have it Also you've been living with this man for 20 years There's not a germ he has
Starting point is 01:22:40 that you don't have okay if he sneezes on some food so what he's probably put worse bodily fluids in stranger places all around that residence all right not to mention this 80 year old man came in the kitchen to wash the dishes so they had a nice couple thing going on somebody handles the food somebody handles the cleanup he was washing dishes before he got to eat that's a keeper and one little sneeze caused you to throw this man to the floor and kill him especially when you said the police he said the police that he often sneezes y'all been living together the 20 years you know this man often sneezes and this one time he sneezes you throw him to the floor and cause him to die face down ass up in a pool of blood always remember kids one wrong
Starting point is 01:23:21 move and you're done for okay life is all about choices decisions decisions and one wrong decision may destroy your life so you should think before you make decisions and you don't realize how important decisions are until you make the wrong one and you're facing charges of assault and involuntary manslaughter simply because somebody sneezed and all you had to do is say God bless you but instead you let it stress you
Starting point is 01:23:46 please let Remmy Bob give Richard Dick Lombardi the biggest he-haw he-h! He-ha! You stupid motherfucker-a, you dumb. Okay let's just start here. He should have covered his nose. Like that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:24:02 All right, if you're washing dishes, you can cover your mouth. His reflexes don't work like they used to. Okay. So why are you washing dishes? Sneezes are abrupt. Washing dishes is more of a premeditated thing you prepare for. Yo. Wait till you turn 80 and you just sneezing and farting and don't know when.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Yo, but I'm not going to be in the kitchen. Yo, he sneezed over the food. They've been living together for 20 years. That don't mean nothing. Listen, if your wife is cooking and you come in that kitchen and you sneeze over the food, just going, what? She's going to go off. That would be ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:24:34 I've sweated on her. But won't she? you go off. Yeah, but that's different. You're not the food that the whole family. We don't want you to scare germs on the food. And them babies eating that. Y'all, that makes sense to y'all? It's the plague. You said the plague.
Starting point is 01:24:44 You shouldn't correct nobody about nothing. I'm correcting you, okay? I'm correcting you, sir. It just don't make no sense, especially if you didn't each other ass. How do you know that's what Dick and, uh, and Richard? What else is sound like they're doing, what else?
Starting point is 01:24:58 Yo, well, now, at least he'd be happy in jail. And if this is all, you know, what it is, then it is. You know you can't say that He ain't got a problem Going to jail All right Well
Starting point is 01:25:08 No he said Oh yeah What eat Eat? We're eating something You can't eat Just you can't say Thanksgiving dinner
Starting point is 01:25:15 You can't say Eat the groceries The way you said it Yeah I don't know what you're talking about Good All right Well thank you for that donkey today
Starting point is 01:25:21 What are you talking about Tell me tell us Are you getting to the yams Since Thanksgiving We got more coming up With the best of the breakfast Club The Breakfast Club
Starting point is 01:25:34 Morning, everybody, it's D.J.N.V. Jess Hilarious. Sholamaine de Guy. We are the breakfast club. We got some special guests in the building. The legendary. The clips. What's up, fellas? What's up? Is it the clips or is it just clips? Is it just clips? Okay, because I say the clips too. No, it's just clips. You call that shot. He acts a lot. I want to ask you. So it's just clips.
Starting point is 01:25:58 What's the origin of the name for people who don't know? So that came from a full of clip. I came up with it. And at the time, Fat Joe had the full of clips crew. So we just shortened it to clips. Okay. I want to go back, right? Because you guys have been in a long time.
Starting point is 01:26:15 What got you into rapping and to form the group clips for people that don't know? Always been a fan of hip hop like anybody else, you know. My older brother was into the whole cardboard box, break dancing, boom box, rapping when you had to push play and record and rap directly into the box and um yeah man just uh just coming up under that and uh we went to chad's house one time and pusha he wrote his first rap and feral was like y'all should you know be a group his first rap was incredible but before that it was just me rapping over there now when you first met chad and and feral right yep y'all are totally opposite so how did y'all even meet and even
Starting point is 01:27:01 and learn each other because growing up in Norfolk in Virginia like it's totally two different sides so what made y'all even say you know what let's connect with these guys who were wearing tight shirts at the time and tight pants that looked like skateboarders they look nothing like y'all at the time. They might have been serving them. No.
Starting point is 01:27:16 So what made y'all say you know what let's link with them and start this whole wrapping? So you know actually so I was a DJ DJ Alex in Virginia Beach lived down the street from me and we went out and we rented a drum machine And we got the drum machine, but we couldn't work it.
Starting point is 01:27:34 And, you know, we had to turn it back in soon. We had paid for it, but, you know, we was going to have to turn it back in before we even had a chance to use it. And he was like, you know, let's take it to my homie's house. And we went over there and it happened to be Chad, and he knew how to work it. And, you know, that's just stuff that we was doing before clip. And that's where it started. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:51 So when did y'all take it serious? When did you say, you know what? This rap thing is something I'm going to take serious. I'm going to get off the street to say, this is what it is. I'd have to say that was in me and Pharrell. It was the Teddy Riley coming to Virginia. You know, we began to see that it was a real thing, that music was actually attainable in arms reach.
Starting point is 01:28:13 I mean, we're seeing the cars, we're seeing the Ferraris, we're seeing Michael Jackson in Virginia Beach. You know, we're seeing emcees, hove, everybody was coming down. And then at the same time, we had, you know, Timberlin and Missy. They was doing their thing. They were, you know, they had left home and went to Jersey and was working with Jodice, but these are all our childhood, you know, high school, school friends.
Starting point is 01:28:40 So we got to see it from a lot of different angles that, you know, music was possible. Why Virginia don't get the, like, the credit for being a hip-hop hotbed? Just a black music hotbed. Well, I think a lot of people have, everybody who's made it in Virginia actually had to, leave Virginia to make it. I don't think any one particular artist of any of us,
Starting point is 01:29:05 none of us broke in Virginia. So we always broke, like, Clips broke in Philly. You know, everybody broke somewhere else. Yeah, Clips broke in Philly. I never heard that one. Oh, no, yeah. Clips broken Philly, man. Really?
Starting point is 01:29:18 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Clips Broken Philly. I didn't know. What record was it, the funeral or? Grinding. Grindin. Yeah, grinding, broken Philly. Got you.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Now, do you remember when Pharrell gave you that beat for grounding? I remember the first time I heard it. It was confusing. Yeah. It was confusing. I was confused. So when he first gave it, how did you know that was the record? You probably got the CD that I was handing out.
Starting point is 01:29:40 Yes, I did. Yeah, I believe you did. It was, it kind of took us back because you got to think at that time, Ferrell was singing on every hook. It was, whether it was mystical and whoever, right? So, you know, this is our first joining. He's like, yo, this the one. And we like, we want you singing. Like, sing, you better tap or do something.
Starting point is 01:30:02 And, you know, he was like, no, I'm telling you this is the future. This is what it is. Man, he was right. And it was confusing because we actually wrote to it twice. Three times. I think I got three joints on that joint. I still can't blend it to this day because I don't know where the beat in the snare go at the same time. You can actually blend on it.
Starting point is 01:30:20 You just got to go. That's crazy. That's crazy for you to say that. To this day. I mean, he's not the greatest DJ. You all know that. Emmy, Envy up there. Emmy up there.
Starting point is 01:30:30 I just love Vegas with Envy. Rocking that. He was smoking that shit. Thanks, thanks, gentlemen. You know, on the album, Alice, you said you've been both Mace and Bethis. Yeah, man. For people who don't know what that line means,
Starting point is 01:30:45 expound on it. Yeah, I just feel like I understood and walked a similar path like Mace, you know, to be in this industry and then to have a real, revelation of God and who he is, you know, and then have to navigate your way. As far as navigating, not so much because I knew that I had to chill, take a step back. And I also want to give you y'all flowers, too, because y'all were still messing with me.
Starting point is 01:31:18 During that time, you let me come in here and, you know, promote the documentary and, you know, my solo projects and everything. So, yeah, I appreciate that. But, yeah, I feel like I understand seeing a lot of the same things that Mace seen. I bought that up because, you know, that's... They actually called me Mace in the club. We was in a club in D.C. And it was like, we got push a T and Mace in.
Starting point is 01:31:39 And I was like, dang, man. Damn. What? But you haven't been around for a while, though. Yeah, I'm cool with it all, yeah. I'm cool with it all. I mean, that's why I bought it up because that's what ultimately caused the clips to, you know,
Starting point is 01:31:51 end for that the fifth last period. That's right. Yeah. So what got your back? the call that said I want to do this again? There were a few baby steps going out to Wyoming and you know working on use this gospel with yay with my brother. I always knew that we could do it but I just knew I needed a sit down period you know what I'm saying what else did we do we did push his album I pray for you yeah we did the Nigo album the Nigo album Punch Bowl yeah so
Starting point is 01:32:21 I mean those were things I could ask for that I knew weren't you know just solid note man from there it was just like what we gonna do well what was the exact moment though because y'all were on two completely different life paths so what was the exact moment that said okay it's time to do another album you know when when we were doing uh they used this gospel and punch bowl and push his album or whatever i had asked my dad i was like you know what do you think about me rapping again and he said he said son i think you've been too hard on yourself and my dad's a deacon you You know, like, he was a deacon. So to hear him say that, I am like, word, that's how you feel?
Starting point is 01:32:59 Like, you know. You're just answering one of my questions. I was going to ask you about that. Because you talk about that on birds don't sing. Right. And I just thought that was such a powerful thing, you know, just to explain, like, you was going through his, you know, dress and drawer seeing his notes, but then he, y'all had conversations about you rapping again.
Starting point is 01:33:14 I was going to ask you, what were those conversations? Yeah, yeah. We, everything was the way it lined up. It told the whole story, and it let me know that God is intent. These things don't just be happening to us the way, you know, we think God is very gracious and he sets you up. He knows what you can take. He knows how much to put on you. He knows the order in which to put, you know, things in for you. So I just know that he's in control all the time. And the conversations with that record, you know, Puscher talking to my mom and me talking to my dad and being able to document those last conversations, even those conversations. was a type of preparation, you know, getting you ready for what was about to take place. So, like, I'm cool with it all.
Starting point is 01:34:01 Well, condolence is, first and foremost. Thank you. You know, I was, when I was in Vegas, you know, I was with family members of yours. And what I like to do is pull them to the side and just have conversations. I knew y'all was coming up for an interview. And, um...
Starting point is 01:34:13 Trying to get tea. Yeah, of course. And one of them was like... Now, we were talking about the album. This is before I heard the album. And he was like, he was like, yo, the best thing about it. he was like I had their mom in the car and he was like the greatest thing that ever happened is the two boys are back together rapping so so how was that feeling of knowing that mom was just super duper happy that her two sons were back rapping uh man you know she that was always a big thing you know for me as a soloist she would always be like I want you with them yeah I want your brother with you I want them back out there with you um probably just you just to, you know, look over me, watch over me.
Starting point is 01:34:58 But that was always her thing. She was huge on, like, us just being together. Morning, everybody is DJ Envy. Jess Hilary, Sholomey and the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with the clips. Lauren La Rosa is here as well. Sholomey.
Starting point is 01:35:12 How did y'all know you had to start the album with a dedication to your parents? Because it was the hardest record to make. Wow. Like, it was the hardest record to make. I felt that one the most on album. Yeah, so finally, like, when we, crack that code you know we were you know we put in the order and we was like man
Starting point is 01:35:28 nah this this this this has to start like this has to start the album it was it was polarizing the the response you know just in the creation of it man everybody who heard it there were people in there like you know we recorded it in the lv headquarters so it's a room and it's you know it's open the mics are like this ain't no booth you record like this you look outside you look through that window right there and inside a window it's just an open space somebody with a sewing machine somebody with you know bag shoes whatever and while we're doing this in real time everybody's in tears like everybody just a decade ago i was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers but it wasn't until 2023 when he was finally caught
Starting point is 01:36:15 the answers were there hidden in plain sight so why did it take so long to catch him i'm josh Zeman, and this is Monster, hunting the Long Island serial killer, the investigation into the most notorious killer in New York, since the son of Sam, available now. Listen for free on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health, and I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like a lot of guys, I haven't been to the doctor in many years. the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Because guys usually don't go to the doctor unless a piece of their face is hanging off or they've broken a bone. Depends which bone. Well, that's
Starting point is 01:37:00 true. Every week, we're breaking down the unique world of men's health, from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility and things that happen in the bedroom. You mean sleep? Yeah, something like that, Jordan. We'll talk science without the jargon and get you real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. It's going to be fun, whether you're 27, 97, or somewhere in between. Men's health is about more than six packs and supplements. It's about energy, confidence, and connection. We don't just want you to live longer.
Starting point is 01:37:30 We want you to live better. So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. What do you get when you mix 1950s Hollywood, a Cuban musician with a dream, and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time? You get Desi Arnest, a trailblazer, a businessman, a husband, and maybe most importantly, the first Latino to break prime time wide open.
Starting point is 01:37:54 I'm Wilmer Valderrama, and yes, I grew up watching him, probably just like you and millions of others. But for me, I saw myself in his story. From plening canary cages to this night here in New York, it's a long ways. On the podcast starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderama, I'll take you in a journey to Desi's life. The moments it has overlapped with mine, how he redefined American television, and what that meant for all of us watching from the sidelines, waiting for a face like hours on screen. This is the story of how one man's spotlight lit the path for so many others
Starting point is 01:38:26 and how we carry his legacy today. Listen to starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama as part of the MyCultura podcast network available on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What up, y'all? It's your boy, Kevin on stage.
Starting point is 01:38:42 I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show. Boo, somebody had tomatoes. I'm kidding. But if they had tomatoes, they would have thrown the tomatoes. Let's be honest. We've all had those moments we'd rather forget. We bumped our head.
Starting point is 01:39:13 We made a mistake. The deal fell through. We're embarrassed. We failed. We failed. but this podcast is about that and how we made it through. So when they sat me down, they were kind of like, we got into the small talk, and they were just like, so what do you got?
Starting point is 01:39:27 What? What ideas? And I was like, oh, no. What? Check out Not My Best Moment with me, Kevin on stage on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcast, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Hi, I'm Dr. Pryonk Wally. And I'm Hurricane DeVolu. On our new podcast Health Stuff, we demystify your burning health questions. You'll hear us being completely honest about her own health. I'm talking about very serious stuff right now, and you're laughing at me.
Starting point is 01:39:55 And you'll hear candid advice and personal stories from experts who want to make health care more human. Sometimes you're there to listen, to understand, to empathize, maybe to give them an understanding or a name for what's going on. That helps people a lot, understanding that it's not just in their head. We are breaking down the science, talking with experts, and sharing practical health tips you can actually use in your day-to-day life. From when to utilize and avoid artificial light to how to sleep better.
Starting point is 01:40:22 Everything you need to know about fiber and how to poop better. How to minimize the effects of jet lag and how to stay hopeful in times of distress. We human beings, all we want is connection. We just want to connect with each other. We want to make health less confusing and maybe even a little fun. Find health stuff on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, they're watching it. By the time we finish it, it's like, you know, just.
Starting point is 01:40:48 like any other record it's like man you know we we cracked the code on it like we we were satisfied but it was just so hard to do and everybody's always like you know everybody want to put their hardest record first and i'm like nah man this this is the this is the hardest record and i want to see how it like really touches people you know from from the jump and then get into everything else well we get a visual for this video i mean it's already shot yeah okay it's already shot look at you you smile like as you are Renew, you talked to the family and got the tune. But I did I pull everybody to the side.
Starting point is 01:41:22 Definitely I asked. The other day, they said I was glazing the clips, right? Why? What I was, what I said was, I said, what I said, what I said, what I said, I said something to this fact. I said, push has, if he hears anybody go at him, he has five records on the side or five verses just in case. I said, I just know because I know who he is and what he is. Is that true?
Starting point is 01:41:45 No, man. That's not what he said. I'm not. Listen, boy, I'm not, listen, man, you know. He said, no, he said, no, he says, now he looks good, like the skin. He's always fresh. I did not say, I'm going to crazy. I like, I like skin compliments.
Starting point is 01:42:02 I do like skin compliments. I'm going to tell you. I mean, I'm not saying that other thing. But when it comes here to rappers and sometimes they throw stones that you, do you have something in the stash for each and every one of them? Man, I mean, I think. you know just me being a rap artist and me being an emcee is um that's just second nature and um usually most most people who who throw stones man i mean no nobody's perfect so i mean i can dissect anybody just like they could dissect me but um i try not to engage too my like i've done that
Starting point is 01:42:38 like i've done a lot of it you know what i'm saying i've done it with the best in the biggest like i've done it so it's like you can't just in a everything because everybody and everybody's not good this is a new day in a new era where like you know just clicks and in in and click bait and people just say things for for attention and it's like he just can't entertain everything man you just can't I feel like you've been trying to catch a body since the story I'm adding on though I've been trying to catch a body well you caught one I'm think that oh I was a body I think those would shots directly
Starting point is 01:43:17 at you, but you, you were surgical with it. Yeah. You said at the end, I'm going to peel back the layers real slow. So I feel like you really wanted to go there with somebody for the longest. Nah, man. Nah, I mean, you know, it's never, uh, man, I got, for real, I have a lot to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, a lot to, a lot of content. Um, the creativity is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is ever flowing. and it don't ever have to be about an individual
Starting point is 01:43:47 it don't have to be like not for me like I mean I feel like this album is incredible and I don't think it's really dialed anywhere you couldn't get an accessory to murder charge though because when you listen to euphoria there's a lot of push you in
Starting point is 01:44:03 there's a lot of things that you laid you know you laid down that Kendrick used for euphoria and I think just used in the battle pyramid man you know I think I think you know great, great lyric is just, you know, tune into the obvious. Did y'all ever speak during that battle? Oh, yeah. Oh, y'all did speak during the battle.
Starting point is 01:44:21 This is my guy. Accessory. Accessory. My guy. Acessory. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it.
Starting point is 01:44:29 When do you pick and choose when to say something about something, though? Because you sit on a lot of stuff for a long time. Yeah. I mean, I'm always like that. That just comes with my position in the game and, like, just where I am as an artist. Like, man, I'm. I don't, you know, it's not always a radio record that I have. It's not always, you know, you know, I'm not putting out music constantly.
Starting point is 01:44:51 You know what I'm saying? Every five minutes a new record. I feel like, you know, things happen. You got to store it. You got to store it. You got to craft it. You got to make it right. You got to set the platform, set the stage.
Starting point is 01:45:02 Now break down the- What to hit. The situation with Def Jam. You guys were on Def Jam. Yes. Decided to leave. Yeah. You're crazy, too, man.
Starting point is 01:45:09 You can sit up here and tell some Deaf Jam. You was like, yo, Def Jam. Jeff Jam don't care about your project. You crazy. He's crazy. He kept... He's crazy. So what happened?
Starting point is 01:45:22 Honest man, man, man. Yeah. I was like, I'm not going to do that to her. Like, if you're not afraid to talk about your music, what are we going to be talking about? Right. And I actually left that day because we didn't sit down. He still wanted to do it, but...
Starting point is 01:45:36 I was pushing for her because I love Coco. Yeah, yeah. We being honest, though, because listening to the project now and knowing with the background with y'all in Dev Jam, Tron and Def Jam, you, I don't understand why they would let a project like this go. Well, listen. So what was the call? When you handed in the album and they called and said, we can't put this out,
Starting point is 01:45:50 we can't clear this record. What was that call like? I mean, it was, you know what? It was, it was something that I wasn't really dealing with firsthand. They were like speaking to my management, you know, then it got a little dicey to where, to the point they weren't, they wouldn't text or email, send these things in email.
Starting point is 01:46:06 They would, like, only talk on the phone and, you know, they would instruct not to email us back and forth these you know that type of correspondence i can only assume that it was just the optics with everything they got going on with litigation lawsuits and all that the optics of clips kendrick together because that's that's when it all happened we don't really deal with the label that much anyway outside of nothing actually yeah we don't deal with the label like we we go make our album and then we come and bring the album back right but y'all you and kudrick have
Starting point is 01:46:40 worked together before y'all got a class for you together together if you asked me For sure. For sure. Yeah. What's the difference? Oh, it's a different day. It wasn't, that was back then. But y'all wasn't even shooting that dude.
Starting point is 01:46:49 It doesn't matter. That's crazy. When you wanted to leave, you call Hove, and then the first rumor was they just let you go for free. We was like, that can't be true. No, no, no, no. No, he had to pay. He had to pay.
Starting point is 01:46:59 So you reached out to Hove and Hove said absolutely positive. Well, what was that? Stephen did. Shout to Stephen. Yeah, Stephen. Stephen reached out to him. There were other labels in the bidding. And he just called Hove.
Starting point is 01:47:11 like, yo, I think there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, an approval process between one of the labels or something, took a little long, and, um, he went and asked Hove, and Hove was like, look, yeah, let's do this now, like 24 hours, maybe, maybe 48 hours. I never seen lawyer work like this. That fast. Yeah, I didn't know it even happened like that. And what record was all supposed to be on on this project? He was sent chains and whips.
Starting point is 01:47:38 Uh, he was, Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson blow to the face. Oh. You know, Hove had the album, so, you know So Be it. Yeah, it was all for him to, whatever he wanted to do. Oh, he's supposed to be on So Be It? Yeah, that was one of the options, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:51 Yeah. And nothing moved his spirit? Hey, man. I don't know, man. I don't know, man, you know. All right, we got more with the clips. When we come back, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:48:05 Morning, everybody. It's the E.J. NV. Just hilarious. Y'all will mean the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. on the roses here as well. We're still kicking it with the clips. Jess. How do you feel when people leak music?
Starting point is 01:48:16 Like when people release your music prematurely. Yo, you know, the game goes how it goes. And that's how we maneuver. We navigate everything. I'm not going to sit up and be upset about anything, you know, that happens. When we get in there and we create and we make our music and we do what we do, what else you're going to do? What else can you do other than that? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:48:38 And I stand on our product and I love it. And it's good for fans to get things sometimes, so it's cool. Like, as long as they enjoy it, it's good. Did y'all ever think about trying to get another Kendrick verse once that leaked before the album actually, like, dropped? Man, we try to get all Kendrick verses. Why not? Well, y'all kind of leaked. Y'all knew playing that song in Paris.
Starting point is 01:48:59 When everybody's phone out, it was going. Y'all had to know that. Yeah. You know, it's part of it. Well, back to what you said about when you went to Wyoming to do use his gospel. by the way the hardest song on that album how do y'all feel about Kanye now do you feel sadness
Starting point is 01:49:15 or sympathy for him we all see him now no no fuck to your brother no no no no I'm going to say in and I'm going to say that I think this goes for
Starting point is 01:49:31 anybody it's crazy when you have a true revelation of God it is radical Because when the scales fall off your eyes, you do. You want to run and tell everybody what you witness. Oh, yo, we've been missing it this whole time.
Starting point is 01:49:46 You know, it's how I felt. But once you get that, you got to sit down for a minute. You can't get the revelation and then try to keep going in this world. The epitome of the gospel is denying yourself. That's why Christ got on the cross and gave up his flesh. so you have to be willing to give it up so you can learn and then let God restore you and rebuild you correctly doesn't mean anybody is a perfect person
Starting point is 01:50:18 or you can't even try to have the facade of okay I'm saved now now I'm perfect nah it just doesn't work like that so how do you deal with it push because deal with Kanye because you're not a type of person to hold your tongue you know you don't hold your word so when some of the stuff that he did that might not align what you thought.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Did y'all have those conversations? Well, I mean, you know, I spoke on it. I feel like that was the beginning of our fallout. He sits on a lot of miscarriages of justice. I've seen it. You know what I'm saying? I hear things and things being said. And I see, you know, his reserve.
Starting point is 01:50:56 You know, I admire his restraint. People, by the time he jumps out the window, you think he's going overboard. But I'm telling you as knowing my brother, He sits on a lot. I saw you say you hate Kanye's leadership and you got away from that community that he built because of the feeling over there. Right.
Starting point is 01:51:15 What was that like last straw of like, nah, I can't anymore? I think for me it was somewhere around the Atlanta, the dome, the locked in, when everybody was locked in the dome. And we squad and we working and we doing what we're doing, it's just all about the squad. and I kind of just felt like
Starting point is 01:51:37 you know I would you know I would have to leave and go do things shows whatever the case maybe I would come back and the energy would just be different you know there were conversations being had you know this is this is after Adidon and everything else and you know it was like man I was doing self-serving
Starting point is 01:51:52 things and it was just crazy it was just a lot of like you know back biting and things like that and I'm like damn this is this is for the squad I thought but you know it ended up not being We talked publicly negative about you. We heard him say about Sean.
Starting point is 01:52:07 We heard him say about John Legend Yay. Oh, no, for sure he has. For sure he has. Remember he put on the little mask? He was like screaming in a mask. Define what is culturally inappropriate. Oh, man. Yeah, no, listen, man.
Starting point is 01:52:23 Okay, so during just the sessions, whether it was a beat, whether it was, you know, just the freestyle before and making the songs, whatever the case may be, you know we would get hype about just like man it's hard or whatever whatever it was at the time and um i forgot who said it but someone was mike mike yeah mike was like man this shit is culturally inappropriate and mike also worked on it's almost dry so you know how that had a common thread of like the joker laugh through the whole album he was like yo say that on the mic and let me run that
Starting point is 01:53:00 through a filter because, you know, we just felt like we just kept running that back. It's culturally inappropriate. He was like, say it through a filter, let's find a voice, and let's just see how it sounds on records and it actually just worked. Just to have that, you know, just another thread to keep it, you know, cohesive.
Starting point is 01:53:16 Keep the album cohesive. Well, I appreciate you, Bubbles, for joining us. Man, thanks for having us. Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. But are we going to have to wait another 15 years or is, you know? Nah, no, no, I don't think so. Okay. Maliston said.
Starting point is 01:53:30 I don't know, I don't know. Y'all are just so happy. I don't have seen y'all together. I know. Thank you. That's why when I said the safe space thing, I can really see that. I can see how this is like a divine protection
Starting point is 01:53:42 with y'all together. Wow. For sure. I'm with that. I'm with that. I feel that. I see that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:50 One last thing. Is there ever a problem you say, like, I'm not going there with Pusher? Like if push is going to a spot, a strip club to host, or he's going to the strip club, like, that's, I'm not doing that. doing that.
Starting point is 01:54:00 Yo, everybody keeps putting you in the strip club for some music. Every interview, they're putting them in the strip club. I usually don't. I mean, my book, but that's not my thing. Work is work.
Starting point is 01:54:13 Work is work. It's clips. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Salute. Good morning, everybody. It's E.J.N.V. Jess Hilary.
Starting point is 01:54:23 Sholomey and the guy. We are the breakfast club. And happy Thanksgiving to everybody out there. Slude to Red who's running the boards today. He's the only one here, so happy Thanksgiving. Why does Red got to work on Thanksgiving? That's a goddamn shame.
Starting point is 01:54:33 You know what that means? What? He's taking next week off. So when we come back, he ain't going to be here. Oh, I don't blame him. Huh? I don't blame him. Yeah, so good luck to us.
Starting point is 01:54:41 I don't know who's going to be running the boards, but we're going to figure it out. But salute to everybody traveling. If you're heading to Thanksgiving, if you're at the airport right now. If you're on the road, get to your destination safe. Yeah, definitely sending you positive energy, love and light. Hope your plane isn't delayed. I hope that, you know, the airports are cool. I hope everybody gets the way they're going safely.
Starting point is 01:55:01 Whether you're flying, whether you're driving, whether you're taking a train, whatever it is, man. We hope we get to your destination safely. That's right. And don't let your family piss you off too bad. That's right. When we come back, oh, you got a positive note for the people on Thanksgiving, bro?
Starting point is 01:55:11 You know what? I do. And it's simple. You're going to be sitting around the dinner table today, probably with people that you may enjoy, probably with some people that you don't. But I just want you to communicate with clarity. Don't make any assumptions at the dinner table today.
Starting point is 01:55:24 All right, communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness and drama. If all humans would communicate with impeccability of the word, all of our relationships would change. There would be no wars, no violence, no misunderstandings, and you don't need any today at Thanksgiving dinner, so communicate with clarity. Have a great day. Breakfast club, bitches!
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