The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Jada Pinkett Says Tupac Proposed To Her While He Was Locked Up, Cardi B Bashes People Talking About Her Smoking Cigarettes + More

Episode Date: October 13, 2023

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Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club is on. Wake up! The Breakfast Club, Envy, and Charlamagne, the voice of the culture. You think I'm gonna come here when this shit ain't hot? See, y'all are different. Y'all are the culture. It's different, you know what I'm saying? Like, y'all know what y'all talking about. This is probably becoming the most prominent forum for hip-hop. Being here next to all of you guys, it's really big.

Put it in perspective. The Breakfast Club, bitches. Wake up! Good morning, USA. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Charlamagne Tha God. Peace to the planet. It's Friday.

Yes, it's Friday. Good morning. Yeah, man. Friday the 13th. Yes. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm trying to get out of New York City as soon as possible today, man. Oh, all the protests.

They said there's something called the New York City is preparing for the... Just salute to everybody else that's listening to us all over the country. But you know, our headquarters, the Breakfast Club, Black Mothership is here in New York City. But it says they're preparing for Hamas Global Jihad Day. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what the hell that means. But, you know, the FBI is on high alert.

Yep. What I was told, every police officer in New York City got to be on duty today. Yes. Every single one. Every single one. Like no days off. No. 12 hour shift.

They want everybody to come in today. My God. Even if you're not uh uncertain uh because you know some police officers do detective work some do you know uh they look for pedophiles some do you know drugs whatever but they want everybody on duty i guess to do parole and make sure everything is safe and clear today yeah because i guess hamas is urging mass global demonstrations yes man lord have mercy oh yes when i say peace to the planet i mean it for real for real this morning absolutely jesus christ what the hell is going on

well comedian joe claire will be joining us this morning legendary joe claire if you've been watching uh welcome to rap city documentary on bet then you've seen uh a lot of joe claire's story yes you know joe claire he was one if you grew up in the 1900s like we did then you've seen a lot of Joe Clair's story. Yes. You know, Joe Clair was one, if you grew up in the 1900s like we did, then you ran home every day to watch Rapsody. Joe Clair, Big Les. Yep. You know, Big Tigger. Yep.

Chris Thomas, the mayor. Like, you know, but our era was really. Tigger and Joe Clair. Tigger, Joe Clair, Big Les for sure. Big Les, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that was our era. Yep. But he'll be here to discuss with us this morning.

That's right. Did you watch the game last night, the football game? No, I didn't watch no TV last night. I didn't even get to catch up on Loki season two. Oh, I saw the first episode of Loki. I didn't see episode two last night. Okay. We got another guest joining us today too, right?

Yeah, Vlad. Okay. Shout out to Vlad. You know Vlad, DJ Vlad, Vlad TV. He'll be joining us as well, so we'll kick it with Vlad as well. Vlad needs to win a Peabody because Vlad helped solve the murder of Tupac Shakur. That's right. Okay?

Vlad made Jada Pinkett Smith a very happy woman. Yeah. All right? Okay. Yes. We'll talk about that in the rumors as well.

She just... I just want to read the book at this point. Yeah, me too. When does the book come out? I don't know, but I just want to read the book at this point.

At this point, I just need to read the book. It's just a lot. Hey, as a Pinkett Smith, Winfrey Knowles, Carter, Jada, whatever you out here doing on your press release, it's worked. I need to read the book. Yes. Okay? I want to read the book, too.

Because if you're giving away this kind of stuff in interviews, there must be some really, really good stuff in this book. Jesus Christ. All right? All right. Well, let's get the show cracking. We got front page news coming up, so don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Good morning, Taz. Good morning, DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God and Breakfast Club family. Peace, Taz. All right.

Now, last night, Kansas City Chiefs beat Denver 19-8. Yeah. The Denver Broncos season is over. It's officially a wrap. Okay. Now, also in baseball, Philadelphia Philliesillies beat uh atlanta braves to move on to the national league championship series against the arizona diamondbacks what do you think sierra russell wasn't going on vacation

turks and kickoff no i either did that a few times all right well let's jump right into the news what we talking about what we starting with this morning, T.S.? Yeah. Fifty three year old Cenk Uygur, founder and outspoken host of the progressive Young Turks TV show, said Joe Biden is not going to win for president. And he is the break glass in case of emergency candidate. Let's listen to why he believes he should be running for president of the United States. Let's change the course. Right now, Joe Biden is down 24 points in the economy, 19 points on jobs when he actually did better on jobs than Trump did. He's down 13 points from where he was in 2020. He is not going to win. I am running. Yes, I am a break glass in case of emergency candidate. It should not have been me. It should have been someone else, but unfortunately it was not anyone else.

And now there's only four months left, we must change course. He has at best a 10% chance of winning. Donald Trump is an actual fascist. So I am running as a proxy, I'm running to win, but I'm also running as a proxy for

any other candidate. We have got to get Biden out of the race. Thank you for winning in 2020. But if he loses this time around, it's not just his problem, it's all of our problems. I actually think democracy is on the line. And so if it takes me running, then that's what I'm gonna do. And we're all gonna do it together.

He's not saying nothing that I haven't been saying. Donald Trump is indeed a fascist. Democracy is on the line. And 2024, yeah, Biden loses. I think democracy, as we know it, will never be the same again. But what do they say in sports? You still got to play the game. Yeah.

You know, even if it looks like the team might don't have a chance of winning, you still got to play the game. I just wish we had some better players on both sides. So as it stands, Marianne Wilson, who obviously, Mitt Williamson, I'm sorry, is also still running to be the Democrat nominee against Joe Biden. Had her on the show as well. We also had Dr. Cornel West on the show.

People can go back and listen to that interview. He dropped his Green Party ticket. So when we had him on The Breakfast Club, he was running as a Green Party ticket, and he has now dropped it as an independent. And so has Robert Kennedy Jr., who was also running for the Democrat nomination when we had him on the show. And now he is running as an independent as well, which I reported that earlier this week. So folks are moving over to the independent category and just, you know, being very honest.

Like Jane said, I'm running to be a proxy. I know I'm a long shot candidate. I know, you know, but I'm running to disrupt. appreciate his honesty at least you know with that but not a lot of people like it they feel you know it's a spoiler feel like it hurt joe biden uh but there's also people that believe joe biden can hurt joe biden so we'll just see all right well that is front page news now get it off your chest as we'll see in a couple of minutes 800-585-1051 if you need to vent phone lines are wide open again 800-585-1051 get it off your chest whatever you're thinking whatever you're going through call us up right now it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club this is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.

We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Good morning, DJ Indy. What's up? Good morning. What's your name? My name is Nori. I'm calling from San Antonio, Texas.

Are you named after Noriega, the rapper, the host of Drink Champs? No, I'm actually named after L'Oreal products. My name is Noriel, but I go by Nori. Oh, okay. Oh oh i love niggas i mean i'm sorry i love black people we so amazing aren't we don't we just we just make up stuff we is isn't anybody up there with y'all nah nobody today okay i wanted to call and talk to my favorite radio host in the whole wide world today is my birthday and i'm just hoping that y'all can wish me a happy birthday happy birthday happy birthday nor Nore. Happy born day, Noreal. What are you doing for your birthday? Um, I don't

know. My husband has a bunch of stuff set up for me today, so I'm going to see what I step on and what I get today. What are y'all going to name y'all kids? Ninty? Nah, we named our kids something normal this time. Oh, okay. That'd be cool. I read y'all books, so

can I please get maybe a signed copy of Black Privilege and maybe of your book, you and Gia's book as well? Sure. I'll send you a whole package for your birthday. I'll send you Tamika Mallory, State of Emergency. I'll send you Anita Copac, Shallow Waters. I'll send a whole pack out for you.

A whole Black Privilege publishing pack. Oh, y'all be making me cry. Thank you. Eddie. I'll definitely send it out. I'll tell our producer to put him on hold. Make sure you get our address. We'll send it out today.

And I'll send you a Black Effect hat. I'm going to put you on hold, okay? Thank you. All right, mama. Hold on. Hello, who's this? Capri. Hey, Capri.

How old are you? I am 10 years old. 10 years old. Okay. Well, wow. Get it off your chest, Capri. Your parents let you listen to this show? Yeah.

Okay. Is somebody coaching you? Is your mom with you? Yes. Okay, tell your mom good morning. We can hear her whispering. You're a terrible whisperer, mom. Hi, DJ. Hi, Tommy.

Good morning. What's up, Capri? Talk to us. So, how do you feel about the world changing? The world's changing, but I don't think it's changing for the better. I would feel much better if the world was changing for the good. It feels like the world is changing for the worse right now. Jesus, how do you feel about the world changing?

Not really good about it. Yeah, me neither. From the mouth of babies, I think we need to listen to the kids. What would you do to change the world? Change global warming. Global warming is very important. I think it's very important. Very important.

You heard about all of the permafrost? What is it called? The permafrost effect where all the old prehistoric diseases are starting to come out because the glaciers are melting yeah yeah that's horrible right what are you learning in school oh um i've been learning about the ice age yep wow yep yep you think there's going to be another ice age or you think it's going to be heat what you think is going to take us all out heat heat right yeah capri do you believe in aliens yes have you ever seen one no you think you'll see one in your lifetime probably later in life yes yeah we'll be gone by then so how

much time you think we got left capri um maybe like 40 years wow that's it let's see i'll be 85 yeah you'll only be 50 so what do we we got what do we, we got to change this now, Capri. Yeah, we got to change this now, Capri. We need a little bit more time. We need a little more time. So Capri, if you could tell everybody right now that's listening, what would you tell them? How can we change the world?

How can we make the world a better place? Tell them right now, Capri. Go. We could probably keep recycling to keep this world clean. Recycle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, done deal. And where you from, Capri?

What city? What state? I am from Texas. Texas. Okay, Capri. Well, we appreciate you for checking in, and thank you so much, Capri. And tell your mom, don't throw that can in the trash. Put it in the recycling bin.

That's right. Okay. Bye. Bye-bye, Capri. Have a great day in school. Have a blessed day. You too. You have a blessed day, too.

You heard what the kid said. The kid said that y'all need to stop it, okay? Global warming is real. Climate change is real, you bastards. You told y'all. All right, we got 40 years left according to Capri. All right. 800-585-1051.

Get it off your chest. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest. Wake up. Whether you're mad or blessed.

It's time to get up and get something. Call up now. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Good morning, it's Alex. Alex, what up, man? Get it off your chest, Alex. What's up, man?

Yo, so I just want to put out a positive message. You know, I lost my brother this year. About a week after my birthday, he passed away. My mom just recently passed away. My grandfather just passed away, you know. And I'm barely making that meeting, you know, driving an hour and a half each way to work every day and stuff. But, yo, man, I'm up and I'm smiling, man. You know, if I'm still doing this, man, you know, man, anybody can do this, man.

You know, I've done lost 17 friends in my life. I ain't got nobody but me, my son, and my daughter, man. So, you know, if I'm still up kicking, man, y'all can do this, man. All right. You said all you got is your son and your daughter and yourself. Like, that's not enough, my brother. That's all you need is some God. That's what I'm saying, man.

That's what I'm saying, man. I'm good. I'm happy. I'm up. I'm smiling. I'm working 72 hours a week, man, barely making it by. But you know what? I'm alive.

The air smells good. It feels good. I'm alive, man. And listening to you guys every morning, man, I get a smile on my face going to work, man. Thank you, brother. I'm glad that we can put a smile on your face. I'm telling you, man, that's all you need. Have a good one, brother. We be stressing like we don't have everything we need, man.

If you got your family and you got God, I promise you, you can get through anything. I promise you. Hello, who's this? DJ Envy, Charlotte B. McGrath. Good morning. OG Rob. OG Rob. What's up, OG? What's happening, y'all? Listen, man, it's always a blessing to call in here with y'all brothers, man.

And before I do my thing, before we do our thing, y'all know how we give it up. Just want to say, brothers, we need to be prayful right now in these times. You know what I'm saying? You got to stay prayed up. We got to stay prayed up, man. The devil is a little busy right now to seek and destroy, man. You know what I mean? So I just want to say the prayers for us, man, and let us know, man, we got to stay prayed up today, brother.

Too much going on. But y'all know it's Friday, man. Okay. If you're going to borrow us up, do your thing. All right. Check it out. I said, picture this. Get your lens right.

Set the frame so you see it clear. Haters talking because I'm outside. Let me get a few dance first. Hustle hard, call it block work. Lanes all in the comments. Cause I'm stuck on that power line? Man, this shit never makes sense. This is something for the small talk.

Me intent with full intent. Peak pressure on the pavement. Hip hop is what I came with. Who's lost in that mumble rap? Going viral for TikTok. Got something worth it to make them dance? Slide on them like flip-flops. Move it in for preciseness.

Side step, he gon' milly rock. Call it style what you want to. Old school, so get off mine. Check one to the check two. Skills proving up the walkthrough. Send the stage to my playground. Vaga them up, make them comfortable. OG.

OG. OG. You know what I'm saying, y'all? I got some bars. You ready? Life is too short for y'all to be playing some games that take some time

and think about if it's really losing me. Why must it be this way? Why do you have to play with my mind all the time? This is disgusting. Help me sing all I really want. You want to sing? No, I don't

want to sing, man. Let me get something, yo. Let me get something. My name is Renard. I'm so petty. You use a spoon to eat your spaghetti. Tasting on your radio station. Friday the 13th, I'm going to play Jason. Today is the day that MCs play.

If you smell rotten teeth, it's tooth decay. And Envy's gay. Bars. Bar. Okay, okay, okay. And Envy dropped your song for you, so you're going to be happy. That's your joke, man. So it's all good.

I'm not paying him no attention. When he says be happy, he means gay. That's not true. Okay, gay means happy. That's what he wants. That is not true. That is not true. no attention When he says be happy He means gay That's not true Okay gay That's not true Gay means happy That's what he wants That's not true

That's what he means I just want to be a little happy That's all I really want Just to be a little happy He mean He mean happy like gay No that's not it

No OG Rob you have a good weekend Yo y'all Y'all have a blessed weekend Brothers be safe You and the families Alright you too now brother Alright now when we come back

We got your rumor report We gotta talk Jada Pink and Smith Who is Jada Pink and Smith? What'd I say? Jada Pink and Smith Sound like he sell mid in Texas Jada Pink and Jada, go see Jada Pink and Smith

Over there selling mid in Texas Well, we gotta talk Jada She has a book out And she is just loose-lipping it And she got more to say We'll get into it next It's The Breakfast Club on BET The Breakfast Club on BET.

The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk to Isley Brothers. Rumor has it. Rumor has it.

Call out a name or you gossiping or you chatty patting. I don't gossiping. This is The Rumor Report. I mean, I guess we on the breakfast club. This is where the tea spills, right? Right. Damn, it's cold. Now, Ronald Isley was on the breakfast club a couple of months ago, and Charlamagne asked him about his relationship with his brother because it was rumors that they weren't seeing

eye to eye on some things. How are things now? Because I know one of your brothers was suing you over the Isley brother trademark. That's not really a problem. You know, it's hard for me to discuss it now, but it's not a problem whatsoever. Well, it's sad to say that his brother, Rudolph, has passed away. He died at the age of 84. He was one of the founding members of the Isley Brothers.

And that only leaves Ronald as the sole surviving member of the original Isley Brothers, which was Ronald O'Kelly and Rudolph. Now, he also wrote their first hit, Shout. You got it? Come on, Grandma. Come on, Granddad.

Let's do a little dance. Shout. Shout. Shout. They still play this at the baseball games, football games, and all that. Shout. Shout. Calm your grandma down. Your grandma just lost it real quick.

Your grandma just lost it real quick in the kitchen. Didn't she? I hope those issues were just business and not personal. The issue was the name. He saidonald shouldn't have the name but ronald said that you're not in the group you're not performing so that's why you know we use the name but yesterday he left a statement that said there are no words to express my feelings and the love i have for my brother our family will miss him but i know he's in a better place so rest in peace to rudolph ice yeah that's what i

said i hope those issues were just business and not personal because it would suck to have uh unresolved you know personal issues with somebody that you love you know and that's really really close to you but y'all might not have been on the best of personal terms when they pass you know that's something you gotta live with forever that's right i hope it was just business and not personal but definitely sending healing energy uh to the good brother ronald eisler yeah now uh jada pinkett smith uh she's on tour of course she has a book she's on tour she's on tour she has a book that's coming out and she's been talking to pretty much everybody now she was talking to crystal jordan at rolling out and just talking about her you know how she felt about tupac and their chemistry if there is such a thing as past lives,

definitely think Pac and I have traveled a few together, you know, in various forms. So has there ever been a time that you regretted the decision that you made not to take it to that level with him and to keep it in the friendship space? It just wasn't possible. There was no chemistry between us. You know, I talk about it in the book it's just hard to believe that we see chemistry with the two of you guys even in the the videos the videos you guys dance and there seems to be so much chemistry but

it's it's that friendship love chemistry trust me okay jada we're gonna buy the book all right as a pinkett smith winfrey knows carter i'm telling you right now we're gonna buy the book all right as a pinkett smith winfrey knows carter i'm telling you right now i'm gonna buy the book and i was looking at uh i didn't see the clip yet but i saw my good peoples at all the smoke salute to matt bonds and steven jackson uh make sure you listen to all the smoke podcasts on the black effect i heart radio podcast network i saw they put out a clip that said jada pinkett smith reveals that tupac proposed to her while he was in jail can we get that clip too for later? Wow. Jesus Christ.

Yeah, if you don't know Jada and Tupac, they went to high school together in Baltimore. She also talked about Baltimore and how she never wanted to be a drug dealer's girlfriend. So she talked about how drugs affected the area and her neighborhood. She said, I wasn't trying to use drugs. I surely wasn't going to be the drug dealer's girlfriend,

but I wanted money so that I could be independent. I wanted to take care of myself. So she talks about actually selling drugs. So that's in the book as well. I'm going to buy the book. It's called Worthy. Okay, I actually cannot wait to read it. The press tour has worked this week.

All right. I also saw a headline that said Jada Pinkett Smith reveals she has actually never met Will Smith. No, shut up, man. But we did. Will Smith was up here, and Charlamagne asked Will Smith about, you know, everybody always talking about Tupac and Tupac and Jada's relationship and how he felt about it. So this was Will Smith talking about it when he was here.

Ever jealous of the love Jada had for Tupac? F*** yeah. That was in the early days, and it was like, that was a big regret for me, too, because I could never open up to interact with Pac. You know, they grew up together and you know they loved each other but they never had that you know they never had a a sexual relationship but they had come into that age where now that was a possibility and then jada was with me but she just loved him like he was the image of perfection but she was with the fresh prince it's like y'all have so much in common no that's what jada would say all the time she was like i'm telling you y'all

are so similar you will you love him and i just never i couldn't i couldn't handle it you know i was just i was the soft rapper from philly and he was pock right and i was deeply insecure and just i wasn't man enough to handle that relationship. Jesus Christ. Jada should just name this book All Eyes on Me, man. Well, we do have the clip that you were talking about where Jada Pinkett was on all the smoke. A lot of people might not know, but he proposed to you while he was in jail. I talk about this in the book when I I had to talk about it, speak my words for the audible version of the book, that was probably one of the more painful parts.

Seeing him there, the condition that he was in and having to leave him there. And he was in bad shape. And so when he asked me to get married, he was at Rikers. And I knew at that time that, A, he needed somebody to do time with him, which I was going to do anyway. He didn't have to marry me to do time. Damn me do we need to hear will smith side of this well smith just need to remake i am mad at you man you know what i'm saying just express all his feelings i'll keep your head up about this i'll keep your head up you know what i mean one of those two no no no i ain't mad at you you know what i'm saying because everybody probably think he mad at jada remember jamel

hill was here yesterday saying will not a victim and everybody probably think he mad at you. You know what I'm saying? Because everybody probably think he mad at Jada. Remember when Jamel Hill was here yesterday saying Will not a victim and everybody probably think he mad at Jada right now. Just go ahead and let Joyner Lucas rewrite I ain't mad at you

for Jada real quick, Will. I'll hit him up. Whatever you want to do, Will. Hit him up. More hit him up. More hit him up. Go change his person and hit him up.

Whatever you want to do, Will. We understand. Jesus. But guess what? I'm getting the book. I got to read this damn book. I have to read this book. I got to hear it.

I want to hear her speak it. I like to read. I'm old school. Can you imagine her speaking that, though? I mean, she must sound like she's signing interviews. I like that. Damn. Dropping the Clues Monster, Jada Pinkett Smith.

Okay? I don't know why. I just feel like I need to drop a bomb for you. All right. You out here doing your thug thistle. He said, I ain't want to be a drug dealer's girlfriend. So I just sold it myself. This has been one of those book runs that actually has worked.

I want to read the book. All right. I'm probably going to read the book anyway, but I really want to read the book now. Me too. You got no copies yet, Eddie? Nope. Not yet. You got one? How you got one copy? you keep it for yourself oh next week oh they sent out copies next week all right all right when we come back we got front page news tetherland figaro will be

joining us and then joe claire will be here all right you know former uh rap city host also comedian it's the breakfast club good morning Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back in some front page news. What up, Tiz? What's going on, DJ Envy Charlemagne, the guy.

Peace to the hood whisperer. Now, last night, Kansas City beat Denver 19-18 in the NFL. In the baseball playoffs, if you're still watching, the Phillies beat the Atlanta Braves. They move on to the National League Championship Series against the Arizona Diamondbacks. And it's very important to note that the Broncos are now 1-5. I mean, as of right now, the Russell Wilson era

or the Sean Payton era has not worked in Denver in no way, shape, or form. No, not at all. But let's jump right into the news. Let's jump into these two offices. Pause. Split verdict. God damn. You You're going to jump into the two offices? Come stop it, man. Kinky this morning. Go ahead. It is Freaky Friday, but two officers face a split verdict in Elijah McClain's death.

Listen to the report and then I'll give you just some additional information on the other side. Split verdict in the death of Elijah McClain. The 23-year-old black man died in 2019 after being subdued by police and injected with the sedative ketamine. One officer, Randy Rodema, was found guilty of negligent homicide and third-degree assault, both felonies. The assault conviction carries a penalty of up to 16 years in prison. Second officer, Jason Rosenblatt, was acquitted. Now, just some additional information. When he died, and again, this was 2019.

Remember we talked about yesterday how they moved so swiftly on Carly Russell, but this was 2019. After he was given the drug, McClain went into cardiac arrest and was declared brain dead. He died several days later. Now, the coroner's report that was released in 2021, which obviously a couple of years after he died, said that the death was caused by the administration of the sedative, as you heard in the report.

But the coroner could not rule out the possibility of the chokehold contributed to his death because obviously a chokehold restricts blood flow to the brain after the verdict his mother said that this is what happens in the divided states of America she was visibly upset you know as she left the parking lot yeah it is amazing to me you know how many of these stories I can honestly say I forgot about you me and I remember when this first happened and that young man was begging for his life you know saying he doesn't eat meat and it's one of those stories that when you unfortunately listen to the video or listen listen to the audio you kind of like trying to suppress out of your brain because you don't want to you know hear somebody suffering in that way but it's just sad that we we kind of we i can only speak for me just just kind of move on from from these

things and you forget that these cases are even going on you You know, it's crazy. When I read it and I seen Elijah McClain, I was like, well, who's Elijah McClain? Because it happened so much. You know what I mean? Until, you know, we just brought the story up. It's very sad. And I just want to point out that during the trial, because folks are asking, you know, how did he get in the chokehold? What happened with that?

And the officers just said he looked suspicious in a high crime area. He was just walking to the store. Doesn't that sound familiar? Remember, again, Trayvon Martin. But obviously, that was an officer's situation. But still, he was walking to the store. They told him to stop. He said, you know, I have the right to walk wherever I want to walk.

And he said, well, you also should stop because you look suspicious. And that's what happened. So very, very unfortunate. And yeah, people forget about these. You become numb to them, unfortunately, because it happens so much. So, you know, bum ass, a bum ass dude just driving. You know what I'm saying? Got the audacity to look at somebody like Elijah McClain and just he he sized him up. That's right. You know, said he looks sketchy and he might be a good person or a bad person.

Like, come on, man. So crazy. Now let's talk about the safest cities in America. Yes. Safest cities in America. You guys had talked earlier about, you know, what's happening today in New York. But let's talk about how a few of the few cities have been deemed, you know, not so safe. America's biggest and most famous cities have a safety problem from crime to financial problems and the threat of national disasters. So a new poll has listed out these cities and wanted to give a few of them to you. Rounding out the safest cities is overall Joshua, New Hampshire, is number one as the safest cities. The others, Maryland is two, South Burlington, Vermont, three, Gilbert, Arizona, four, and Warwick, Rhode Island, five. And Columbia ranks as the safest city in the country when it comes to home, community safety.

And South Burlington is the top location for financial safety. What Columbia? Columbia where? Columbia. I just said it. Hold on. Maryland. Oh, man.

Must be Maryland. Damn sure it's South Carolina. Slew to the 803, the metro. What's happening? Love Columbia. But no, I don't think we would ever make that list. Yeah. Now, the major cities that have problems is New York, Chicago, Houston.

It's a big concern right now going on with that with the mayor's race. What comes from Sheila Jackson Lee and tough on crime is one of the major issues they're talking about. San Francisco, Seattle, Atlanta, and Philadelphia. So those are the cities that have the problems according to this poll. Yeah, I was driving in today and it's crazy because I got to see the city change. At one time, you know, we've always had a lot of homeless people, but you didn't see. It's almost looking like L.A. When I mean looking like L.A., I was driving by and in L.A., that's where you would see, you know, homeless people in tents.

You would see the big boxes like you would see see the homes made out of makeshift things. And I'm starting to see that a lot in New York now. So that just tells me that they're having a huge problem. They can't find places to put people. People can't find jobs. It's a lot of problems out there for New York. It's also amazing how most of the safest cities, with the exception of Columbia and Maryland,

I've never heard of. And they probably want to keep it that way. I've never heard of Columbia and Maryland. You've never heard of Columbia and Maryland? No. No, I've definitely heard of Columbia and Maryland. Columbia and Maryland. I've never heard of. And they probably want to keep it that way. I've never heard of Columbia and Maryland. You've never heard of Columbia and Maryland? No. No, I've definitely heard of Columbia and Maryland. Columbia and Maryland. But yeah, I've never heard of these cities

and they probably want to keep it that way. They're probably mad that Tez even shouted them out. I'm sure they are. Don't blow our spot up. I'm sure they are. Stay out their business. Okay. All right.

Well, that is front page news. Thank you, Tez. Have a great weekend. And make sure you subscribe to Tezlyn Figaro's podcast, The Scraped Shot, No Chase, a podcast on the Black Effect iHeartRadio podcast network. And follow at Teslin Figaro on all social media platforms. All right. Now, when we come back, Joe Clare, comedian Joe Clare, former host of Rap City, will be joining us. And I hope that you've been watching the Welcome to Rap City documentary on BET all week, man. There's a lot of things that got left on the cutting room floor.

Joe Clay will be telling us about some of those things. All right, we'll get to that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Charlamagne, the guy. We are The Breakfast Club.

We got a special guest in the building. Hold on, let me just. The legendary. I see he got his Morgan State. Oh, really, bro? Really, bro? You know, I just want to put my helmet here. Oh, baby.

We got the brother Joe Cleezy here. Joe Cleezy. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. How y'all doing, man? Explain this to me.

Now, I know the Hampton Howard rivalry, but what's Morgan State? So every HBCU thinks it's the greatest HBCU that has ever been HBCU. The only real one is Morgan State. But then the other ones still feel like they are a Morgan State. So you have that Howard Hampton thing, or Morehouse thinks it's Morgan State.

FAMU thinks it's Morgan State. I love those institutions. Great institutions who turn out incredible people, but they're not. Watch your mouth. Morgan State. I was going to go to Morgan State because that's the first school that's on the tour. That's not helping your argument here. I'm going to tell you, I was

going to go to Morgan. I was going to go to Morgan, Howard, VSU, Virginia Union, and then Hampton. When I went to Morgan State, I remember like it was yesterday. It was the first thing we go on the campus. Well, you want to call it a campus. Oh, no, you didn't. Just because y'all got that little river running behind y'all little school.

I heard this story before. And then you know what I seen on my dad's scene? Y'all were playing craps on the steps. My dad was like, this is the same thing as Queens. Why are you going to leave Queens to come to Baltimore? That's the school you want to go to. To play craps on the steps. That's what made me go to.

So mine was the complete opposite. As soon as I seen the crowd, I was like, this is the place for me. This is definitely the place for me to get a degree. It was perfect. It made five years. Them five years served me well. Five years in Baltimore. You didn't do it in four.

No, I ain't do it in four. Me neither. I did it in five. No, I did my five. I was an RA. Man, I, you didn't do it in four. No, I ain't do it in four. Me neither, I did it in five. No, I did my five, and I was an RA. Man, I did everything you could do at school. I was the mascot one semester. I needed a gym credit.

I needed a gym credit. They was like, you want to go lift weights, or you want to be the mascot? I said, man, give me the bare outfits. I was the most DC bear I had on my new balance. it was a raggedy suit. Listen, Charlemagne, it was a raggedy suit at the time. We didn't have the funding to get a new mascot outfit at that time. Morgan State was going through some things.

So they gave me the old one that they used to have. And the head was perfect. The suit, the feet, garbage. So I used to rock whatever. The band would come out rocking fresh new buttons, new butter Tims. And everybody, who is the band? He fresh, whoever the band is, he fresh. The freshest band we ever had.

Honestly, if you walk on an HBCU campus and rolling dice scares you, you might not need to go to an HBCU. It is scary. My pops was like, this is the same thing I've seen in Queens. And I don't want my kid, you know, rolling craps. So what it is, we wasn't rolling craps. That was a probability study. See, your pops wasn't here.

That was just a probability study. I got you. From some kids in the engineering department. Now, let's talk about what's going on in Morgan right now, Morgan State. You know, there was a shooting there recently. Yes. You guys had canceled the homecoming, and there was a lot going on. So, have you reached back out to the school?

How is everything happening now? Because I know you're big when it comes to giving back to that school. So, I was supposed to actually host our homecoming gala, which is the biggest fundraiser of the year. I hosted the gala this year, You know, tuxedo out. And that got postponed to December the 8th. The official homecoming got canceled. But black people homecoming went on as planned. Oh, they were still partying.

Oh, they were still partying. They called it because the homecoming got canceled, brunch. Because the homecoming got canceled, day party. So, you know, you have thousands of people who were looking forward to this weekend. So they came down and had a great time and showed solidarity. After the shooting, you had mothers. There was a group of mothers who got together who didn't have kids in school who came up just to show support for kids who were far away from home who needed a mom. Oh, wow.

If you need a hug, if you need to ask a mom question real quick i'm we're standing right here oh wow and so while the tragedy happened and we you know our prayers are with those students and their families and everybody affected there's also this gigantic push of solidarity this gigantic push of unity um this is a new morgan state and we're going to stand together to shake off some of the old reputation and move in a new positive way. When things like this pop up, it throws a monkey wrench into the we're a new Morgan thing. So we came out even stronger. That's why I've been I've been orange and blue since that day.

You know, my kids are walking around with the hats and everything else, and I'm screaming it out as much as I possibly can. These institutions, you know, I don't have to come on here and preach to you what an HBCU means for our community. So, you know, at this time in my life, I'm happy to be able to be there for my school, whatever they need. They call me for anything. If the students need anything, my frat brothers need anything, they hit me up and like, let's go do X, Y, and Z. You think they should have canceled oncoming? I think it was a good call by Dr. Wilson is an incredible leader for that school. And let's imagine if he didn't cancel.

This black mama ain't canceling. It's a tragedy. So he did the smart thing. He did the thing that someone in academia should do. Let's cancel this. Everybody else, though, we went and partied, and everybody had a great time. Yeah, because all the events around homecoming. Oh, yeah.

None of that got shut down. No, hell no. You ain't canceling Red S's. You ain't canceling the go-go, because, you know, you're not even supposed to have a go-go in Baltimore in the first place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the fact that you got a go-go in Baltimore, oh, we coming. Yeah.

And you're not canceling that. Why you't have go go in Baltimore it's too old you Baltimore get down most of the country doesn't rip doesn't know that there is a unspoken rivalry between the african-american community in Baltimore and the african-american community in DC okay they got their own language they own and so we have to that we grew up with two different, like you said, cultures, different accents, music, food. We did way we dress and the like. So when I got to Baltimore, there was no go go whatsoever. You did not.

Don't even don't even bring that up in Baltimore now because of I of, I think, because of the 20, 30 years that D.C. has been heavy going to Morgan State, making alliances in the city. My wife is from the west side. First, let me say that. My wife is from the west side of Baltimore. And when I married a Baltimore woman to D.C., women were like, hold on, Joe.

Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. No, that's not what we doing. I was like, oh, that's what we doing. Oh, you ain't. doing. Oh, yeah. You ain't. Go ahead and say it. You don't sleep with her. You haven't had some of that old beta she's serving.

She's got a crab boil for your ass that you don't know nothing about. And so I think that there's slowly but surely there's an alliance that has been coming between Baltimore and D.C. At least the hard line has been softened. I won't say there's an alliance, but the hard line has been softened. But you never hear about this rivalry that we have that goes on. I think it's the stupidest thing ever. I think that the two communities, African-American communities, in those major cities, D.C.'s a major city,

Baltimore's a major city, I think we need to come together. Is there anything that brings y'all together? I would think, like, comedy, right? Because I think y'all got some underrated comedy. There's an underrated comedy scene in Baltimore, D.C. Because you got Dave,

you got Donnell, you got... Just hilarious. So here's how we feel about that. The same applies. So it's like this. Growing up, anything coming out of Baltimore, you just automatically X.

And if you in Baltimore, anything coming out of D.C., you just automatically X. Nah, you don't know them. I learned that from my Baltimore goons. What's up with y'all? I ain't saying no names. What's up with y'all? But I know some straight goons. What's up with y'all? I ain't saying no names. What's up with y'all? But I know some straight goons.

And, you know, Baltimore, you know, the wire was real. Let's keep it a buck. The wire was real. Yeah. And the climate in Baltimore is serious. It's very, very serious.

So it's going to take 30, 40 years for that alliance to pop off. Damn, 30, 40? You're talking about black folks who are setting their ways. Black folks are very, very slow to change. Yeah, that's true. And unless you have a reason to change, a very straightforward reason to change, there ain't going to be that much change.

All right, when we come back, we're kicking it with Joe Clair. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're kicking it with Joe Clair. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're kicking it with Joe Clair, of course, from Rap City.

Charlamagne. So you got into comedy. Yes. Okay. And then comedy led to radio or TV first? Comedy led to TV first. Because I was watching Rap City. I was watching the doc, and I saw that you called Rap City every day.

Listen, bro. I called Rap City once a week. I called BET once a week. I was watching the show every day like everybody else. Rap City. Rap City. Who was the host at the time? Dejo and Chris.

Okay. And Les had just come on. Les had just come on, and I'm watching every day. Now, BET is in Northeast, which is not too, it wasn't too far from my house, so I'm like, I'm close. I'm this close. So I started calling, like calling like 411 and then can i have the director and they finally give me keith pachel and i get his voicemail and i leave

the message and he didn't call back let me call again you know when you 19 and you got that you don't have any clue how the industry works right so i just kept calling well he never called me back but a friend of mine j Jay Nice, who was in the episode last night, DJ Jay Nice, was DJing. He's like, I'm going to be on Rap City tomorrow. I said, you going to be on Rap City tomorrow? Can I roll with you? He's like, yeah, sure. I said, where y'all shooting at? He said, I don't know. I said, tell them they can

shoot in my house. He's like, alright, cool, I'll tell them. Now, I hadn't told anybody I was calling Rap City every week. It looked like goddamn food. So he called me back and said, yo, we'll be at your house tomorrow at 11. I said, you going to be at my house tomorrow at 11 to shoot Rap City? He said, yes. He said, we'll be at your house tomorrow.

I said, cool. I hung up the phone. And for people listening that don't know, BET used to be out of D.C. Right. They were in New York. They used to be out of D.C. It was out of D.C. So sure enough, they show up the next day and Chino XL bop on the moon.

So I'm like, oh, man, I'm, you know, I'm my mind blown. I'm a hip hop head. I'm my mind. Whatever y'all need. I got beer and refrigeration. We had no, we had no furniture. I had a bomb. It was exposed.

Bricks, walls, spiral staircase, fireplace. No furniture. It was perfect for a rap city shoot. Anyway, the producer said, hey, man, you a comedian? I said, yeah. He said, I saw you, you a comedian? I said, yeah. He said, I saw you. You opened for Paul Mooney. Now, I had snuck in Paul Mooney's show and begged for five minutes.

This time, they always told me no, but this time, one of the security knew me from the club. I was like, nah, that's funny. Put him on. So I got on. They let me do that. Fast forward eight months later. Yo, you opened for Paul Mooney. I was like, yeah.

He's like, man, you funny. But I didn't know your name. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Hey, we might be looking for. All he had to say is we might be looking. I'm your guy. Whatever the fuck you're looking for, I can do it. And he had me shoot a few things while I was standing there with Chino XL and them.

And then they gave me a couple of auditions. And next thing you know, I was co-hosted with Big Legs. You know what I realized last night watching that documentary? Not realized. It reminded me. You and Legs had some of the greatest chemistry I've ever seen any duo have. Period. Did y'all know each other before that uh so i worked really well with

women specifically because of what i was taught about women and then my brother taught me about respecting people period that's how that's what me and les were off the break and since she was already there she knew more than i did so i i kind of gave her this big sister thing yo show me this and show me that and how does this work and I don't know these hip-hop guys and oh who is that could you can you introduce me that's how that chemistry worked out now some of her friends what's up with Joe was a different let me show you what little bro do. So why did you leave? What ended with Rhapsody?

Why did you leave Rhapsody? So I'll tell you. I'll tell you both versions. The version from where I sit now in my 50s. Stephen Hill was a guy coming into BET who needed to make his thing work. He had been hired to make this thing work. That means people are going to get let go. Sets are going to get changed.

Systems are going to get tossed up. I was new to that, though. I didn't know that that's how that worked. And we were a BET family up until that point. When it happened, Stephen Hill called me and Liz in his office. And he says, so, you know, we're going to go in another direction. I was like, cool. What's the direction? I had never heard that before.

I had never heard we're going in another direction before. I had never heard that before. Fired. Right, exactly. That was the first time I heard that. and that meant that you were getting let go. From how I understood the industry at that time, I thought that was just the most f***ed up move. Like, he ain't shake my hand and take us to lunch and be like, bro, we love you, but this is what it is.

And then it was just a cold heart. We're going in another direction. And to his credit, man, he came in and did what he had to do. And look at where BET went from there. It became such an iconic brand for everybody. But I was wondering, and I was thinking about the doc watching this last night,

did you and Les even get a chance to audition for 106? Because that was the other thing that happened. Oh, no. They launched 106, and 106 kind of phased Rap City out. They didn't even ask. That was a no-brainer to me. So what happened is... Did it phase Rap City out of phased Rap City. That was a no brainer to me. Did it phase Rap City out?

Rap City kept going. It wasn't the shiny jewel no more network. I didn't even know about 106 and Park until I got tapped to do Mad Sports. I was living here in the tri-state. I was living in Jersey.

I was coming into the city all the time and so uh they changed they new york new york's a new hub and all this other stuff and i started doing mad sports i started hosting that show so i had to come up to the bet offices one day i see aj but i had known aj from howard when he he was a party promoter and a kid you know a dude around town in D.C. from, you know, college scene, we would bump heads a lot. So I was like, oh, what the f*** are you doing here? He's like, yo, on a new show. I was like, what's the show?

He's like, 106 and Park. I was like, boom, bet. All right, let me know if you need anything, you know. Good going. Good to see you. I'll catch you when I'm doing my sports. And that's how I found out about 106 and Park. It just baffles my mind because when you got two talented people like yourselves,

you would think that y'all would always be top of the mind for BET. It's the game. Yeah. The game. Come on. You've seen it. You've seen it. Both of us.

All of us have seen it. The game is, and let me say this for the people who are listening. When you get into this industry, media, music, entertainment, all those other things, remember that you chose this game. Because the game's got rules that you did not set in place. You got to learn how to roll with them rules and keep getting getting ahead or become a bitter. Oh, used to be. I could have been type of mom. I was like, I was the rules. Keep it moving. I still go out every weekend and go get a bag

telling jokes you know so when they making all these changes and things are going up and down okay I'll see y'all on Monday

cause I'm in Tallahassee this weekend or you catch me you know I'll be in LA this weekend telling jokes so for me

a lot of that got to roll off my back and I'm remembering it's the game man then they uh after you guys was Tigger and then Tigger

so Tigger was on with us. Tigger started doing news, and then he became like his three hosts. So it was me, Liz, and Tigger. And then Steven came and was like, okay, why don't we just keep Tigger? And that's how that worked. Now, Tigger and I go back to Sunday Night Hip Hop show on WPGC. And that's where me and Tigger used to flow every Sunday night. You was always nicer than Tigger, too, by the way.

I just want to throw that out there. As a rapper, salute to Tigger. While I am a comedian and I take hip-hop very, very seriously, I never tried to be on the show saying, I'm a rapper. Let me stay in my place because this is to highlight cats who have record deals, cats who are moving and shaking in this industry that we love so much. So let them shine. I want to ask, too, you know, back then, you know, when we seen people on TV, for some reason, we automatically thought they was rich, right?

We thought they was getting bread. That's what you thought, right? Because you see them on television. Right. Do you remember how much you were making back then? Did anybody see the documentary when Debra Lee said, we want a shoestring budget? I did. You know that little thing at the end of the shoestring yes that's the budget we were not the little plastic part

that's the budget we had at rap city so that's why i kept a radio job and comedy so when i do rap studio do television do radio those things are just adding to what i'm already getting but i wasn't made i wasn't becoming wealthy. All right, when we come back, we're kicking it with Joe Clair. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody.

It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're kicking it with Joe Clair, of course, from Rap City. Charlamagne? Another thing, too. I was watching the doc, man. I've always loved the interview you did with Big. That's an iconic interview.

Big, yeah. I knew that was Big's last interview. It was his last television interview. I think Sway might have been his last. Radio. Yeah, he went and did the radio. Now, did y'all shoot that in L.A.? Shot it in L.A.

That's when he was laying in the park, right? Yep, we sat down. So we really were on a soundstage, and they were shooting the hypnotized video. The dance scenes were going on in there. So they took a break from that, sat us outside. And that's how that interview popped off. Always wondered, were you concerned for your safety shooting that in L.A. at the time?

Because it was all the East Coast, West Coast beef and all of that. I'm concerned for my safety every day. So my head is always on a swivel. So I didn't feel any more concerned than I normally feel when I go to L.A. I just know,

like, doing Rap City, the thing that I knew was when you go to somebody, hood, when you go to a city, you abide by they rules, you shut your mouth,

don't start no s***, won't be no s***. So, nah, I didn't have any extra concerns for my safety that day. We had plenty of security, and I'm a civilian. Yeah, yeah. Then I sit and I do any extra concerns for my safety that day. We had plenty of security.

And I'm a civilian. Yeah, yeah. Then I sit and I do the interview. It's a great day. C's and Junior Mafia right behind us. The dancer girls are over there, of course. Then Biggie said, you want to smoke something? Ah, the day just got better.

I'm not a smoker, but if you're going to smoke with somebody, you're going to smoke with Biggie Small. So I had to catch a red eye that night because I was going out on the Deaf Comedy Jam Tour. This was the first night. So I had to fly home Wednesday after getting the interview, pack my bags, get on the tour buses, coming from Kid Capri-Lynn, New Jersey, coming down to D.C., pick me up, and then we drive to Dallas. We do the show in Dallas, and the next night we go to Houston, do the show in Houston. Had a ball, and 3.30, 4 o'clock in the morning, kid called my phone.

Like, yo, they say Biggie got shot. You know, it's 4 o'clock in the morning. You've been out drinking and shit. I'm like, whatever. You know, it's just some old hip-hop hearsay bull. Then my girlfriend at the time called me. She was like, they say Biggie got shot. Let me turn on Headline News.

Y'all remember Headline News used to every half hour? First story. Rapper Christopher Wallace has been gunned down. At this point, the interview wasn't out. Interview's not out. I just,

it was, this is Sunday morning. I just was there Wednesday. This is Sunday morning at six in the morning. So nah, no interview out. They ain't get time to chat.

They still in LA partying. And just those next couple of weeks when I got to reflect on it, I realized I was just numb because Tupac had just died. And now Biggie got killed. And I was like, we cannot be that dumb. Are we?

Black folks, we really not that stupid. Are we? Is this who we are? Time has shown that, unfortunately, it's sad. It was one of those times, Charlamagne and Envy, where I really just, I'm very us. I was like, man, I, man, a lot of that. So a lot of the, like, hanging out, I just did not want to do. Like, because I don't know what you on.

And then I watched Cats. I knew some of the most righteous dudes. Next thing I know, he come with the chain and he got to get his swag together. You? You already? You? You've been made since you was 19 years, 10 years old you've been made. You've been a man.

I know your family. I know what you stand on. You switching up because you think this is what the culture doing? Damn. F*** my head up. And has colored how I see us since then. Nothing has changed your mind about it i mean remember leading up to that i sat in the middle of the east coast west coast thing every week

every day every rapper's got something to say about the other coast that would make you start saying east coast west coast worldwide i took it straight from the lost boys yes we really need to we really need to do this big shout shout out to Mac 10 and Fat Joe. Because I don't know if you guys remember, they did a movie. Thick of the Water? Something like that. And Fat Joe realized. And Fat Joe used to be coming up to the show like, man, f*** that.

I'm keeping the flame going on this East Coast, West Coast. After that, I see Joe and he's like, nah, they cool. And then you see Mac 10 and Mac 10 like, nah, they cool. They super cool. And then you see Mack 10 and Mack 10 like, nah, they cool. They super cool. And then you found out it really wasn't the East Coast versus it was the media making it and it was Pac against Biggie and they used to be best friends and now we're looking

at really this came down to two best friends fell out. Now they have other influences and that just got bigger and bigger and bigger. It was out of their control. You know, we have conversations on The Breakfast Club that have ended up confrontational. Did y'all have any of those on Rap City that y'all didn't hear? The only person who ever, like, tried to sum me, he summed me one time.

It was my first live taping, and I'm interviewing Pete Rock and C.L. Smooth. Oh, boy. My heroes. I know their album backward and forward. I know everything. I know every syllable of that album. So it's like,

five, four, three, two, go. I'm like, hey, it's Rap City, Joe Clay here, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and I do my thing. So what's up with June? And then I don't get

nothing from CL. He's pretty, so then the camera's cut off. He's like, yo, son, you mad extra. I said, what? What you mean? He's like, yo, son, you mad extra. I said, what? I said, what you mean? He's like, yo, over the top, B.

You like mad extra, son. Yo, yo, bring it down a little bit. Five, four, three, two. All right, y'all, it's your man Joe Clay here on Rap City. I got bigger. How did that end? For me, I took it as a vet, somebody who was in the industry, showing me what

he thought I should be. No skin off my, you know, that's what you think I should be. I already know Joe Clair. And if there's nothing else, I know Joe, I know what Joe Clair do. And I stayed extra for five years. We appreciate you, brother.

Nah, I appreciate y'all. We love this conversation. Oh, man. And we just, let me get, there's y'all. Make sure y'all watch this conversation. Oh, man. And we just, let me get, there's a few things I'd like to get off my chest. Make sure you follow me at JoeClair on all social media platforms. If you are in the DMV, watch me

every day at 3 o'clock on Fox 5. It's called the DMV Zone. I am on the news every day. And you'll see it when you tune in and other than that just follow your boy matt when you guys when your next shows i do my own shows monthly at a place at a spot called buoy in buoy maryland so we do a comedy show in buoy very uh intelligent uh well-to-do black crap so i love going in there um we got heavy hitters coming through each and every month,

so you can just check the schedule there. And then, let me see, I'll be at the... Go to JoeClair.com. There you go. Just go there, lad. Just go. Thank you. He's struggling.

He's struggling. Well, it's Joe Clair, ladies and gentlemen. Make sure you watch the Rap City Doc on BET. Yes. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Watch that documentary on BET, okay?

Watch the Rap City documentary this weekend it's three parts and i'm not telling y'all that because we on bet i'm telling y'all that because i like the documentary you said it's good it's very good man it's rap city that's what we grew up on i was born in 1978 okay when you grew up in that era that's what we used to run home and watch on television before there was a tic tac and an instagram and tic tacs um all of the platforms before it was any of that that's all we had there was uh ralph mcdaniel's video music box it was well that's if you're in new york yeah it was rap city and it was your own tv raps that's if you're in new york you had rap city rap a rap city i'm not rap city uh video music box mcdaniel's yep we didn't have that in

the rest of the country did you have did you have the thing where um you would have to pay for videos that was the box that was i used to see have the thing where you would have to pay for videos? That was the box. I used to see that when I used to go to visit my family in Orlando, Florida. I used to see the box. I think it was called the box. The box, yeah. You had to pay for it. I think it was like 99 cents.

You could pay for a video, and then you'd have to wait for that video to come on. I don't know how we ever paid for videos. What do we have? I never paid for it. I just sat there waiting, hoping my video came on. I wanted to see. I didn't pay for it. I remember that, the box.

Well, let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Cardi B. Rumor has it. Rumor. Rumor has it. Call out her name or you gossiping or you chatty patting. I'm gossiping. Tell her.

Tell her. This is the rumor report. I mean, I guess we on The Breakfast Club. This is where the tea spills, right? Right. Now, yesterday was Cardi B's birthday and she had a big extravagance and Offset took care of her for her birthday. But they taped that she was in the car and she was a big extravaganz uh and offset took care of her for her birthday but uh

they taped that she was in the car and she was smoking a cigarette and people were commenting about her smoking cigarettes well you know cardi b she's not never gonna hold her tongue so she responded to those people uh talking down on her for smoking a cigarette you all out here drinking nike will mix with the ben and joe yeah pop it y'all even y'all even y'all not even getting the right um perks and let me talk about you bitches you bitches went from popping perks to popping zannies and you bitches out here walking around with sleepy pussy and you out here that a bitch that be stressed the f**k out smoke a little cigarette give me the f**k that's just a psa from cardi b she sounds like she need a cigarette cardi stop letting people scratch you out on little cigarette. Give me the f***. That's just a PSA from Cardi B. She sound like

she need a cigarette. Cardi, stop letting them people scratch you out on your born day, man. Damn. Shout out to Bardi B.

Now, also, Shaquille O'Neal and Allen Iverson, they just been, they just got jobs at Reebok. Shaquille O'Neal was announced as president of Reebok

basketball division and Allen Iverson was named vice president, which I think is pretty dope. I love it. Drop on the clues box for Shaq and AI. Love it. I don't think I would be wearing Reeboks if it wasn't for them two. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm trying to think. The only Reeboks

I've ever bought in my life. For the Iversons and the Parks? Iversons and Shaqs. And the D. Browns? Oh, the D. Browns. Definitely bought the D. Browns. And the 5411s. Yeah, 5411s? 54 11s well for the you know you buy those for the ladies i thought you might maybe like if you like it don't worry about it buy that for a little one now in uh the new position uh he will lead both of them will lead reebok's basketball strategy and cultivate partnerships with team athletes to execute new brand deals and regain relevance and dominance in professional basketball so i guess they they'll be using him to get new athletes signed on to Reebok.

Love it. Now, Jeannie Mai was talking to Sherri Shepherd, and this is what she was saying on the Sherri Shepherd Show. I know because I'm one that has been through it, and we are praying for you, but you're going through this divorce. How are you doing, Mama? You know, I'm not going to lie. It takes every day to just really sit and just be quiet in

Your thoughts take care of me But one thing I know is you give God your pain. He will give you his power So every day I'm like, here you go, you got room for more here's some more you go taking it day by day You know, how are you handling this being a mom monica you know monica that is my north star yeah and i can definitely tell you that i don't know if i would handle this the same way without her because today i'm able to look at her and i can say what would i advise you if you were in my shoes yes and it changes everything so i'm so thankful now we know gz is a notoriously private

person right correct so if you know you're soon to be uh x is a private person maybe x maybe they're working maybe working through it but from what we know now soon to be x uh if we know that if you know you're soon to be as a private person even though it's your story to tell should you speak on it or do you not owe that person anything anymore i mean it's so public now so i guess she feels like she has she you know some things that she wants to get off her chest but if they want it to work if she wants it to work and she knows you're a significant other as a private person i think you would try to respect their wishes if you was genie ma okay what would you do i'd write a book and i would wait until my book comes out and then i would say all of this on my book tour have y'all not learned

anything from jada pinkett smith okay all right but jeezy got a book out but jeezy ain't gonna roll he ain't gonna he ain't gonna move like they move if i was genie ma i would just wait write a book and then use this on my book tour yes okay and lastly let's talk monica now during a live conversation at the shop monica opened up about being forgotten by in the music industry who forgot monica she says she's been nominated for several awards but i guess only won one uh and that was the one soul train award in 2020 almost 20 years after she hosted. What I learned in those moments is that there's a plan for all of our lives and it's orchestrated by somebody bigger than every person in this room. And what was meant to happen was for my life to change that day. And I was able to really enjoy

my career because I didn't have any expectations. I was not worried about awards. I'm actually a person that for all the records I've broken, I really have never won any awards. I was not worried about awards. I'm actually a person that for all the records I've broken, I really have never won any awards. I'm really the most forgotten. If you think about it, I'm pretty much the underdog, but I sit very comfortably in it because I can still go where I want, do what I want, live how I want. But when I say that I am often forgotten. I was hosting the Soul Train Awards, was nominated for five, three of my songs in one category and still lost. But I went out to eat

and kicked my regular shit after I was not bothered because that's not what I do it for. Wow. Drop on the clues bombs for Monica. I feel like we celebrate Monica frequently and often. No.

And what Monica may or may not know uh she is the subject of debates monica and brandy has been debated at barbershops and dice games for years yeah but i don't i don't think we celebrate monica as we should the amount of hits the amount of the records that she's put on the board and even myself you know i i got a this summer i was actually on tour with monica uh it was like a R&B tour R&B and comedy tour and you just mean personally I forgot how many hits and how many records I had man when she was performing She was just when I was it was just hit after hit after hit and the crowd was singing like damn I forgot about that damn. I forgot about my brandy had day versus I know I was on this radio telling y'all

I got Monica all day long. I think I think for a lot of our generation, at least, I'm only going to speak for me. I'm not going to speak for everybody. Okay. Okay, because I can't. No such thing. But I feel like it's Mary J. Blige and then as far as solo R&B female artists,

it's Monica. For me, in my generation, for me, I'm saying, it's Mary J. She's married, you know,

she's a god. She's another, then it's Monica. Yeah. That's just my personal opinion. Just trying to think before I agree with you, trying to think if there's Mary J. She's married. You know, she's a god. She's on another level than this Monica. Yeah. That's just my personal opinion. I'm just trying to think before I agree with you. I'm trying to think

if there's anybody else. Fight yourself in the comments. Argue with yourself because I don't be on there checking them. You ain't going to be arguing with me. From that era, you mean? From our era, the 1900s.

Us. I'm talking about our generation. I ain't talking about all time. I'm talking about for our generation. Yeah, I would agree. I would agree. For me and mine. I would agree. It's Mary, then it's generation yeah i would agree i would agree for me and mine

i would agree it's married then it's monica i would agree with you r&b solo female artist from that yeah i would agree with you oh i can't think anybody else you're thinking about us right no right right puerto rican you say shakira or something you're right now you say jennifer lopez yeah we have to jump him in yeah you're right we gotta beat him up all right well that is your rumor report now Now, donkey today. Who you giving your donkey to? Listen, for after the hour, man, we need a teacher

to come to the front of the congregation. This teacher's name is Steven Taylor. Now, this is a great teachable moment for teachers because if you don't want

to be in the classroom, we don't want you there. We'll discuss. All right. We'll get to that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

Your mornings will never be the same. I was donkey up the day. Made it. Damn, the hee-haw again. It's time for donkey of the day. I ain't trying to be donkey of the day no more. They should be embarrassed by what they already did.

I'm not making these people do these things. I called donkey of the day, and it really caught me off guard. Damn, Charlemagne. Who got the donkey of the day today? really caught me off guard damn solomon who got the donkey of the day today well just hilarious uh donkey of the day for friday october 13th friday the 13th go to a kansas teacher named stephen taylor well actually a kansas teacher who got fired named stephen taylor yes stephen taylor was fired from o'laife's mill creek campus alternative school in september after board members objected to a series of TikTok videos Stephen Taylor had made. If it ain't that damn TikTok, it's Instagram.

If it ain't that damn Instagram, it's Facebook. If it ain't that damn Facebook, it's the 24th letter in the alphabet. When will y'all realize that whatever happens online can absolutely impact your life offline? Okay, and Stephen Taylor has learned that the hard way, but maybe he doesn't care because he doesn't want to be a teacher anyway. See, Steven has been a stand-up comedian for eight years

and a teacher for six, and I feel for Steven because he says the reason he's doing comedy on Tickless is because he only gets paid $45,000 a year and he works all the time. I'm telling you right now, I'll be the first to tell you that I believe teachers are criminally underpaid.

Drop on a clues bomb for all the teachers out there. My mother was a public school teacher in Berkeley County in South Carolina. She told me that the most she ever made annually was 30 grand a year. That's why teachers are so special, because most teachers want to be teachers because they genuinely enjoy teaching. They genuinely enjoy pouring into our badass little kids. Do you understand the enormous responsibility we put on teachers? Not only do they teach our kids, but the fact that we are trusting our kids with another adult for several hours a day. Think about that. Think about that for a second.

Just think about that envy. We are all parents. Reg, you're a parent. We are all parents, right? Think about how protective we are over our children, yet we entrust another adult to watch over them for several hours a day. It's quite unbelievable that we trust teachers the way we do, yet we don't compensate them financially. OK, the way they should be anyway. And in some cases, you end up getting guys like Stephen Taylor, who eventually revealed himself to be people who shouldn't be teachers.

Would you like to know some of the things Stephen Taylor was doing? Well, let's go to Tick Seed for the report. Teachers, if a student is annoying you, just remember you can lie. There's nothing that says you have to tell the truth all the time. I teach history. I tell my students the wrong stuff all the time when they annoy me. I tell them that Abraham Lincoln invented the car. That's why it's named after him. I tell them Logan Paul and Jake Paul had a great grandfather named Paul Revere because they don't even know how names work anymore and i crop dust them all the time i save up big milky lactose intolerant farts and i drop bombs silently because i'm an adult and i know my body and then i just let it stew and then i walk away and i go oh my god it stinks over there and then they have to sit with it.

And you know what? They can't fire me because they need me too badly. Damn. Damn. That is funny. Damn. That is funny. Drop on the clues, my office.

Steve, tell him. I was entertained. Cut it short. He's still getting donkey. Now, he could just be practicing material via TACAL. But even if he is, our kids are too precious to be playing with. Now, I'm not with the crop duster. All right? Don't fart on my kids, not with the crop duster. All right.

Don't fart on my kids, bro. Directly or indirectly. All right. That's funny, though. I don't fart in my clothes, so I damn sure not going to fart on anybody, especially somebody's kids. I have a lot of rules to fart in. Number one, if you fart while you're praying, the prayer is null and void. Don't even play with God like that.

All right. The Bible says God created man in his image, according to his likeness. So if someone was speaking to you and pleading to you about something, asking you for something, and they just farted while they was asking you for something, would you take them serious or grant their request? Okay. I know the answer is no. That's how God feels when you fart while praying. Okay.

Another fault rule I have is I don't think men should fart around other men. I personally believe a man farting around another man is a very primal way of flirting. You want me to know what your ass smell like? Okay. Or lack thereof. So, so if it's a very loud fart with no smell, he's letting you know he's ready for action. All right. Honestly, Steven Taylor might have to register as a sex offender.

Okay. Intentionally, purposefully, and willfully dust cropping kids. All right. Honestly, Stephen Taylor might have to register as a sex offender. OK, intentionally, purposefully and willfully dust cropping kids. All right. Do you know farting on humans under the age of 18 is illegal? Do your Googles. Oh, it's not. Do your Googles. Google it right now. It's a form of chemical warfare. You're lying. You've heard of tear gas? Yes. Farting on people is considered rare gas and it's a felony in 50 states. Now, here's the thing. I just made that whole farting on people as a felony thing up but you should believe me even when i'm lying because a person that's honest about lying is a person you can trust this is why you can't trust stephen taylor because stephen said he lies to his students all the time he says i tell my students the wrong things all the time when they annoy me right when they annoy me clearly a joke but the reason you

can't trust him is because he says he only lies to his students when they annoy him. I don't trust people who lie when they are annoyed or mad. I only trust people who lie for fun like me. Now, here's the reason Stephen Taylor is getting donkey today. It's simply because he made the choice to get fired. What do you mean he made the choice to get fired? Well, let's go to wdaf fox welfare report please today i woke up got ready went to work only to find the parking lot empty because today is

president's day and i'm a teacher and also an idiot stephen taylor has been a stand-up comedian for eight years and teacher for six most recently at olathe's mill creek campus alternative school and he also makes tiktok videos The reason that I'm doing comedy on TikTok is to make money because you only pay me $45,000 a year and I work all the time. A series of videos at the beginning of the school year got him called into HR with the unusual question how often he passes gas near students. He was told to take the videos down and asked to see the district's social media policy. They don't understand it. The social media policies are designed for MySpace. They are years behind where we're currently at in the world, which is TikTok is alive and well.

Everybody's on it. Palsy goes on to say you shouldn't post anything online you wouldn't say at a public meeting or to a member of the media. Now Taylor's talked to both as the district moved for termination after he says he refused to sign a nondisclosure agreement and resigned. All you had to do was take the video down, Stephen, and you would still have your job. Are you making forty five thousand dollars a year on tick taco bell? If not, what's the point? OK, this is what I'd be saying when folks choose viral over value. A paycheck has actual actual monetary value going viral on tiktok boom could

have some monetary value but clearly for you it's not and if tick tick ticket holder not paying your bills and there's nothing to discuss just take the video down but steven god works in not so mysterious ways i'm glad you didn't take it down because it's good we know what your priorities are all right you don't want to be a teacher anyway you want to be a stand up comic we don't want you to be a teacher because you don't want to be if your priority when you are in the classroom is not our kids then beat it all right we only need teachers teaching our kids that want to be there if a paycheck is your motivation for being a teacher then you have zero motivation because teachers don't make no damn money sadly okay? But, Stephen, I need you to hear this. Teaching is not a job. It's a lifestyle.

It permeates your whole life. All you're doing, Stephen, is permeating poops. Okay? And always remember, a teacher cannot teach anybody anything.

A teacher can only make you think. In Stephen Taylor's case, he doesn't want to teach anybody anything. He can only make things stink. Please give Stephen Taylor the sweet sounds of the Hamiltons.

Oh, now you are the donkey of the day. You are the donkey of the day. Yee-haw. So you've never cropped dust at a plane before? I don't fart in my clothes. You know this. I think that's a lie. I don't fart in my clothes.

I think it's a lie. Don't disrespect me. I don't fart in my clothes. I don't believe you. I don't fart in my clothes. This ain't one of the times I'm lying. I don't fart in my clothes. Well, how do I know if you're telling the truth when you're always lying?

I'm not always lying. First of all, I tell you when I'm lying. That's why you can trust me. Okay? A person that's honest about lying is a person you can trust. I tell you, believe me when I'm lying.

I'll tell you before I lie that I'm lying. Or I'll tell you immediately after I lie that I'm lying. Say you're lying. Red, have you ever passed gas on a plane?

Red, you're lying. I feel like you should be arrested. People who pass gas on a plane or poop on the plane should be arrested. We are in this enclosed space. The air is already very thin up there. It's disgusting. Sidney, you ever pass gas on a plane? She's saying talk to Nick.

That means yes. Nick. Nick, you're lying. When you went to New Orleans, that long-ass flight, you didn't pass gas one time? No, man. You know, farting out clothes. And if you do have to fart, you go to the bathroom like a civilized person, pull your pants down, fart, and go back to your seat.

Cap. All right. Well, Cap. I can only tell you. All right. Well, I ain't here to make you understand. When we come back, Vlad will be joining us. Of course, you know Vlad, DJ Vlad.

He has Vlad TV, and we're going to kick it with him when we come back. It's crazy how Vlad don't sound right by itself. You either got to say DJ Vlad or Vlad TV. When you just say Vlad, it don't sound right. Not at all. But we're going to kick it with him when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Come on.

The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. I know him as DJ Vlad, but everybody else knows him as Vlad TV. Vlad's here.

What up, Vlad? What's up, Envy? What's up, Vlad? Charlamagne, it's been a minute. Man, first of all, Vlad, I want to tell you congratulations because you are responsible for helping the family of Tupac Shakur get justice and closure because of some of your interviews you did with Keefie D on Vlad TV. I have already

said it. I think you should win a Peabody. If you was any other journalist outside of hip-hop, I think you would get some type of an award for that. Thank you, man. How do you feel? I mean, the purpose wasn't for him to get locked up or anything else like that because, as I've said before, when Las Vegas PD reached out to me, I didn't

respond. I didn't cooperate. My whole thing was, this is a story I'd heard for, I mean, for a long time, for close to 18 years or so. And by actually sitting down with Keefy and getting his whole story from beginning to end, at the end of the interview, I'm like, okay, I pretty much solved the case at this point. Shout out to Greg Kading, who actually got the, you know, the original Keefy D confession. But in terms of the public public that was the first time

keefie actually told the entire story of how it happened what led up to it what happened that night what happened afterwards so i mean ultimately i don't think anyone could really be surprised i thought for maybe the interviews it made it seem like he had a deal already on the table uh was any of that true like i thought that was the reason why he was able to talk about it right so you had a proffer agreement so when greg katie met up with him uh kifi d who's greg katie uh greg katie was uh was an lapd uh investigator yep who was looking into the entire case he had caught kifi in a this huge pcp ring and kifi was facing life in prison so what happened was there's something called a proffer agreement aka queen for a day meaning

that you could sit down with someone they could ask you a whole bunch of questions and you could admit to all the crimes you did that day and you can't be charged with any of those crimes and in exchange they dropped the whole pcp case against him he was able to walk free but the thing about proffer agreements from what i understand is that it's called queen for a day because it's only valid that particular day so if you choose to retell that story afterwards you could potentially get charged for it a little bit of a gray area you choose to retell that story afterwards you could potentially get charged for it a little bit of a gray area you know and i think that his lawyer is probably gonna be fighting in terms of that but i think he was under the assumption that he said it once he could say it as many times as he wants and i don't think that's the case when it comes to proffer agreements

when you say that uh vegas police wanted you to cooperate what did that what did that mean i think they wanted the raw footage okay i actually have the voicemails from them like oh we've been trying to reach you and everything else like that. And I think they thought that maybe there was a bunch of things in... We did two interviews that they could use in the case that we didn't publicly release. But if you know Vlad TV and both of you have been on Vlad TV, we use damn near every second of the footage. So they're kind of barking up the wrong tree.

But my whole thing was that if someone interviews on my platform, I'm not going to turn around and then work with the police against them. Regardless of what it is that they said. It's just business-wise, you know, in terms of my values, it's not what I do. So I didn't choose to cooperate. Now wait, what could they ask you that they didn't hear themselves? It's all out there.

It's right there. It's all out there. It's right there. It's all out there. And he's done multiple interviews. It's not just flat TV. Art of Dialogue. Yeah, he did that. He did a few other ones. So it's kind of like...

He wrote a book. He wrote a book. And that's the whole thing. People thought that I got this whole confession out of the blue. Like, before we did the interview, we got a copy of the book. We read through the entire book. And that interview was...

The blueprint of that interview was that book. So there are certain parts where i asked him a question he didn't really want to answer it my thing was like well the book says x y and z and then so he had to kind of address that but if you write a book about a crime i have no problems interviewing you about the book that you wrote yeah and it's not even just a kiffy d interview that i think i would say constitutes you winning something like a p-body it's all even just the Keefie D interview that I think I would say constitutes you winning something like a Peabody. It's all the interviews you did surrounding it. It's the Greg Kading. Who else?

If this was the Vlad cinematic universe, what would be all the interviews you got to watch to get the full story? I mean, Greg Kading, who was the lead investigator. Chris Carroll, who was the first responder that showed up at the scene after Pac got shot and Suge got grazed. Edie Aimeen, who was in the car behind Tupac when he got killed. So you said watch the Keefie, Greg Kading. Idi Amin, Chris Carroll. Yeah, just a lot of pieces put together. Now, did he ever say, was Pac the intended target or was it Shug the intended target?

Because I did see that they thought Pac was grabbing a gun, allegedly, and they were returning fire or something like that yeah when i pressed him on that he didn't really uh you know admit to that but from everything i heard i remember i talked to um the co-writer of that book and he told me that when he first met up with kifi he was like, look, man, I'm very pro-black. I'm very positive. How do you feel about, you know, your role in killing one of, you know, one of our great hip hop icons? And Keefie's response was, they had no business putting their hands on my nephew.

You know what I'm saying? And the thing is, like, everyone is so shocked because it's Tupac. But right now, somewhere in America, some, you know, gang affiliate, gang member just got beat up and is out there grabbing their gun right now to go retaliate. This is standard procedure when it comes to this type of world. So everyone's shocked because it's Tupac. We love Tupac.

But this is how things happen in this type of lifestyle, unfortunately. Unfortunately, yeah. It's interesting when you say your intention wasn't to solve the case so i guess people would say what what is the point of doing all of these interviews what is what is vlad tv's intention when he puts together all of these different interviews my intention wasn't for him to be convicted to put him in jail like i i'm i'm just a huge tupac fan like if you you know i know, I loved Tupac. All Eyes on Me is one of my favorite all-time albums. I mean, what he, he's just such a charismatic individual. I mean, you could, it'd be hard to argue

that Tupac is not the greatest rapper of all time. Shout out to Biggie, shout out to Nipsey. But if you look at worldwide, you see more Tupac murals around the world than any other rapper. And that's because I think that outside of the rapping and the good songs, there's a social commentary involved in what he did.

There was a struggle that everyone in every country could really relate to. So my whole thing was like, oh, this is my favorite rapper and here's a story that's unsolved, but everyone in LA knew this story. It was like the worst kept secret in LA. So let's try to put it out there and bring it out to the public

because there's so many conspiracy theories around it. Suge him killed the government had it killed had him killed he's in cuba somewhere like you know i mean he's still alive he's you know he faked his own death it's like a lot of it was so ridiculous that i wanted to put a piece together that that had all the different angles of the same story and they're all matching up now was you were supposed to interview keefy d again before he was rated yeah yeah he reached out to me we had a conversation he had already gotten arrested his house got raided and i'm like all right well i'm just gonna leave it alone but then he reached out to me had a conversation with me and then you know his co-writer was the one

that i kind of communicate with a lot when it comes to this type of thing um they're like he wants to do another interview that's like all all right, we gave him a deposit. He hadn't asked for it before. You paid for an interview. Yeah, I paid for both of his interviews. Vlad pays for a lot of interviews. People don't know that. Well,

for certain interviews and other ones I don't pay for. Like your regulars? My regular guests all get paid. Yeah. Absolutely. Which makes sense. Boosie and TK Kirkland.

All my regular guests get paid. If you see him on Vlad TV over and over again, we make money so we choose to compensate our guests as well so i mean he reached out we gave him like a small deposit wasn't wasn't really a lot of money and i i figured that i'm probably not going to see this again because you know his house got raided and i i was hearing that there was a grand jury underway and there was a possible indictment coming and from what i understand he hit up a few other outlets

and got deposits from all of them. So I think he was just trying to gather up money because he knew that he was about to go away. So it is what it is. To me, it's not a big deal, and it was to be expected. All right, when we come back, we're kicking it with Vlad TV some more. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club on BET. Morning, everybody.

It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with DJ Vlad, Vlad TV. Charlamagne? Now, you know this situation doesn't help the rumors or the stigma of the Vlad curse. Vlad is the feds. Vlad is the police. Vlad curse, Vlad is the feds.

People say a lot of folks get jammed up after they interview with you. Do you ever feel bad or regret doing those interviews after folks get caught? Well, the stigma is the stigma, man. People are going to say, Vlad is the police, Vlad is the feds. I've heard it literally for 15 years. But ultimately, it's just not true. But in this case, I mean, it is true to a certain degree. And if

people are mad at me for helping to solve the murder of the greatest rapper of all time, I'm okay with that. Also, recently you did an open letter to I always call it an open letter. now also recently you did an open letter to uh i would call it an open letter it was kind of like an open letter his thoughts an open tweet yeah to drake and cali correct now why did you feel like you wanted to write a tweet to them well you sort

of see what's been happening right when you look at the gaza israel situation it's horrible horrific and i put out a statement about that myself where i said that i feel sorry for all the citizens you know from israel and palestine that are caught up and what their leaders are choosing to do that's right you know i'm saying i don't agree with what netanyahu has done in gaza in terms of blockading the country and creating essentially an open-air prison and i definitely don't support what hamas did in terms of killing hundreds of people, beheading babies and everything else like that. It's a serious topic.

And when I sat back and looked at it, it's like, okay, Drake is the most famous Jewish person on earth, essentially, right? Who else could do a tour and fill out coliseums worldwide who's Jewish besides Drake? Khaled is the most famous Palestinian in the world,

but neither one of them has said anything about this at all. And people are saying, well, they're not politicians, whatever. They influence hundreds of millions of people, which ultimately has an influence on the world. And you're not choosing to say anything. And Drake, who has a Jewish mother, which by Jewish law makes him Jewish, but not only that, his parents got divorced when he was five years old,

and he grew up with his Jewish mother and her Jewish relatives in not only that, his parents got divorced when he was five years old and he grew up with his Jewish mother and her Jewish relatives in Forest Hills, which is a Jewish community in Toronto. He had a bar mitzvah. And then when this happens,

he doesn't say anything because I think that he doesn't want to potentially affect his record sales. But why does he have to say anything? Like, why does him or Khaled have to say anything publicly? They don't have to say anything. But I'm saying,

as representatives of these communities, their voices are powerful and they should say something. Just like I have said something. What are they supposed to say though? But you're educated on the topic, clearly. And they don't have people around them that can educate them? They have access to the highest level of everybody. You know what I mean?

In terms of professors, experts experts and so forth but even being educated on something don't mean you have an understanding of it to be able to express it and you don't want somebody to craft something for you and just post it on your social media and i've been watching celebrities all week you know say some of the stupidest like i saw justin bieber post pray for israel but he put up a picture of palestine and had to pray for israel over the picture of palestine so it's kind like one of those things, if you really don't know what you're talking about, you probably should just sit it out. But you probably should learn about it because, I mean, this is before Drake was a rapper, he was Jewish. Before Khaled was a super producer,

he was Palestinian. Like this runs deep. You know, I'm saying that this is the essence of who they are, of their families and their communities. drake was raised in a jewish community i'm sure his relatives feel a certain type of way about this and look like drake has taken all types of shots at kanye when kanye went on his hitler rants drake didn't say anything specifically about that but he takes shots at him i guess like if something happened with george floyd or something happened in our community and you say absolutely positively nothing as a black person right i don't think you have to though i think if that's your thing sure but i don't think you're obligated to do that you're not obligated but i feel like you should say something in your position and my example was

tupac when something happens that's close to his community, Pac was going to say something. Tupac was a one-on-one though, Vlad. Yeah, but the caliber of where Drake is, where Tupac was, is equivalent. I'm talking about one-on-one as far as the type of people they were. Tupac was socially conscious. Tupac's mother was a radical, a Black Panther.

I got it. That's not who those people are. I get what you're saying, right? Because if you look at what happened in our community during that time with George Floyd and people were protesting, I think everybody that had a little bit of influence said something, whether it was LeBron James,

whether it's a comedian, whether it's a celebrity, whether it's an actor. All those people always do, though. LeBron always. LeBron has just chimed in. You know what I'm saying? LeBron always chiming in on social issues. That's what he's chosen to do.

But then again, Michael Jordan has, right? And people were saying Michael Jordan didn't, so I guess it's kind of the same. Michael Jordan never has. I guess it's the same thing. always chiming in on social issues that's what he's chosen to do michael jordan has right and people were saying michael jordan didn't so i guess he never has i guess it's the same thing and there's a criticism with him about but ultimately i feel like when you're at a certain level like you have a responsibility because you have so many people like you could shift global thought with just a simple statement so because to me i'm like what if drake and khaled are doing things behind the scenes i think that's more powerful than a tweet or an instagram post like you're not going to change people's minds on a 75 year old situation how long has this been going on for how long thousands of years thousands yes oh shoot i know a thousand okay um but yeah man it's sad i just

don't want us to have a because i already think america has like unhealthy obsession with celebrity yeah and like we always looking for celebrity to fix the world problems like when i when i started i promise you when i the first time i heard about this i did not think of draco cowell i went i went to people like scholars and academics you know that that's the people i want to hear from yeah but but like Charlamagne, before you were on the radio, you were black. Absolutely. And you had to deal,

you have a black family and you understand black issues. You could walk out of the breakfast club right now and become a private citizen and never have to do anything, but you'll still be black. Certain things should run deep with you, with everyone.

We don't know if they don't. We don't know how Draco Callen feels about it. What do we want, an Instagram post? A tweet? Yeah, that's true, because we don't know what they're doing. They could be behind us. We don't know if they don't we don't know how drake or calum feels about it we just like what do we want an instagram post a tweet like that's true because we don't know what they're doing they could be behind that we don't know what could be like you know name me a more famous palestinian than calum i'm with you but i don't know how he feels about this i can't say he don't feel anything about the situation because he didn't but he's not but he's not speaking about it but he's speaking about his new jordans you know i'm saying he's doing uh sneaker shopping right now drake is doing this, this whole like literally writing paragraphs

about Joe Budden because his feelings were hurt over album criticisms. So it's not like they're too busy. They have time to put out things. You know, like for example, like Andrew Tate was disparaging Canadian men. Did you see that? Yeah.

He was saying, oh yeah, you know what I'm talking about. He was saying, oh, a man from Canada, there's no such thing. Drake's response, Drake responds, green light on Andrew Tate. So when Canada gets insulted, he needs to come up and say something. But when his own community that he grew up with, his mother, everyone's like that, he's remaining silent. But I think ultimately, and in my tweet, I think they're too worried about staying relevant, staying hot,

and not getting a certain group of people not supporting them anymore. That's what I think. What could Drake and Khaled do to stop a thousand-year-old war? Drake did a free Larry Hoover concert. That makes more sense because that's an actual action. That's something they raised awareness for. Hopefully, Larry Hoover can get free. What could they do to stop a thousand-year-old war?

They can't stop. He didn't stop Larry Hoover from still being in prison. Larry Hoover is still locked up. But he put his voice out there and he put his support out there. And it may make a difference in the long run. You're just saying that they have these platforms you'd like to see. I understand what you're saying. I've never seen them do that, so I don't know why they would.

And they haven't. And that's unfortunate. And this is why I think that as time goes on, and we're talking about many years in the future, their relevance will pass away as well they won't live on for you know eternity like the iconic people like a tupac well we appreciate you for joining us vlad tv telematic uh check you out follow you and all that good stuff what interview should we be checking out right now uh i got a leo cohen interview it's about to drop uh there's a new phase on love love interview that out. I mean, just a bunch of stuff in the works.

Okay. DJ Vlad. Vlad. Yeah. Vlad TV. It's The Breakfast Club. Thank you, man. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody.

It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. It's Friday, so you know what that means. It's time for Pass the Aux. Hey, Nailah. What's up, guys? NYLA. Happy Friday. Happy Friday. Okay, so the first record that I'm going to go with, Hey, Nala. What's up, guys? N-Y-L-A. Happy Friday.

Happy Friday. Okay, so the first record that I'm going to go with is going to be Fredo Bang and NLE Choppa. It's called Sideways, which, Char, I think you'll like because you really like the one on Drake's tape. I love Drake. I love that song. The sexy red one. Rich Baby Daddy?

Yes, I think you'll like Sideways. He puts his hand on his knees Every time he hear that song That record hard How do you know that Why is that like A new rhythm they're using Is everybody trying to do The KPN Envy

Shorty swing my way Is that the thing now Cause that's what It's like That's what Drake used A little bit Well this dropped Before Drake's project dropped

So I don't know Who did what first But either way They both sound good to me You know that's why Envy got his name KPN Envy Oh really

Yes he was a huge KPN Envy fan Wait which one is En's where Envy got his name? KP and Envy? Oh, really? Yes. He was a huge KP and Envy fan. Wait, which one is Envy? Is Envy the... I don't know, actually. Is she the light skin one? I'm not sure. I thought one was white.

Isn't one white? Oh, is that Envy? Either way, that's where he got his name. I did not get my name from KP and Envy. Yes, you did. You told me that. I did not tell you that. You liar.

You liar. It's crazy. Cap. I mean, they made a classic, so there's nothing wrong if that's what it matters but I didn't get my name from there that's Cap that's what

you told me that's Cap where did you get your name from it's a long story okay KP and Envy Shorty Swing My Way okay fine

let's just roll with that story it's more entertaining no it's not Gia said that to him that's how Gia first pulled him Shorty Swing My Way Shorty Swing My Way and you fell for it

yeah she fell for it. And he said they used to call themselves that. She was KP, he was Envy. Yeah, but that's a dope song. And I see NLE Child, but it's the second song he's done like that. With that kind of jersey bounce. Yeah. I like it.

I like it. Okay, so the next one I'm going to go with is Denzel Curry. The joint is called Woo. All right, I like it. Your picks have been great so far. Why are you still in the streets today? What's wrong with you? Tough.

Yeah, I love that. I love Denzel Curry. Love, love, love. He came up here back in the day. Yes, he did. Not to the new studio. I need to get him up here. Yep.

Okay, and then the last one I'm going to go with is R&B. I know I got to throw an R&B one in because the next Pass the Ox, which is on October 20th, if you haven't already, RSVP, is an R&B night, so I'm highlighting a bunch of R&B, I know I got to throw an R&B one in because the next Pass the Ox, which is on October 20th, if you haven't already, RSVP, is an R&B night. So I'm highlighting a bunch of R&B artists right now. So this is Leon Thomas. He just dropped a fire new R&B album. Check it out. But my favorite one on there is Crash and Burn.

Oh, who that was? Leon Thomas. I never heard of Leon Thomas. Where you from? I think he was originally a singer. I mean, not a singer. I'm sorry, an actor. Oh, actor.

An actor turned singer. Damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's pretty hard. That's dope. I mean, not a singer. I'm sorry. He was a singer. An actor. Oh, actor. An actor turned singer. Damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's pretty hard. That's dope. All right, Leon Thomas. Check out the tape. I think you guys will like it.

Make sure you guys check out the Pass the Ox playlist, available by clicking the link in bio. Will Leon Thomas be at the next Pass the Ox Live since it's R&B centered? No, he won't be because we already have three headliners confirmed. Oh, got you. But we will probably reach out for something else because I think we're going to do another R&B night during around Valentine's Day.

Yeah. Jesus Christ. That's a long time away. November, December, December. I know because the next one is Afrobeat and the one after that is rap and then the one after that would be R&B. I got you. We got a system going. Make sure you guys tap in www.pastorauxlive.com if you guys want to RSVP.

Download the playlist. And yeah, I'll see you guys on October 20th. Word. Alrighty. Well, when we come back, we got the People's Choice Mix. You know, we throw it back on a Friday. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. So let's just salute to DJ Vlad Vlad TV for joining us this morning and also Joe Clare, comedian and former host of Rap City on BET. Salute to them for joining us. If you have not gotten the opportunity to watch Welcome to Rap City on BET, you should check it out.

You know, Joe Clare's on there, Big Tigger, Big Laz, Chris Thomas, the mayor, Prince DeJoy, like all of the Joe Clair is on there Big Tigger Big Laz Chris Thomas the Mayor Prince DeJoy like all of the you know the Rap City hosts are on there and they talk about all of the great Rap City stories Joe Clair told us

a lot of things that they left off the cutting room floor because his story is deep I'm sure a lot of their stories are deep but you can't tell

all of their individual stories you know in one documentary but salute to Joe Clair and salute to Vlad man Vlad helped to get a, a,

a rest in the murder of Tupac. Yes, he did. That's big. Yes, he did. Say what you want. That's big.

So salute to Vlad TV. Absolutely. And listen, I also got to say happy born day to our girl. Pretty V man. Today is pretty V's born day. Happy born day. Pretty V.

I love you. Enjoy your weekend. All right. When we come back back we got the positive note so don't move it's the breakfast club good morning morning everybody it's dj nv charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club it's cold in here it's definitely freezing man but you got a positive note well yeah before i get to the positive note i just want to tell everybody out there man veterans day is november 7th and i can't think of any other way any better

way to celebrate veterans day than uh telling y'all about this book called invisible generals by my man doug melville it is the next uh release off my book in print black privilege publishing it tells the amazing true story of america's first black generals benjamin o davis senior and junior a father and son who helped integrate the american military and create the famous Tuskegee Airmen, man. So on Veterans Day, November 7th, it'll be in bookstores everywhere, but you can preorder it now. And just want to say salute to all the veterans out there. And I can't wait to, you know, just give out a bunch of books to the veterans.

And because I just think it's a great story honoring, you know, some veterans, Benjamin O. Davis, Sr. and Junior. So November 7th, it'll be in stores. Preorder now everywhere you buy books invisible generals by my man doug melville the next release off my book in print black privilege publishing with simon and schuster in the positive note is simply this uh safety and i'm telling y'all this because i want y'all to be safe this weekend because it is really crazy out here in these streets man safety is not just the absence of danger but the presence of peace and comfort so even when you out here being safe okay make sure you try to find some peace and some comfort to go with that safety all right y'all have a great weekend breakfast club bitches you don't finish or y'all done