The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: JAŸ-Z In 8 HBO Docuseries Premieres In New York City + Dr. Jessica Clemons, Montell & Kristin Jordan Interview

Episode Date: September 14, 2026

Today on The Breakfast Club, Dr. Jessica Clemons discusses mental health advocacy, postpartum depression and psychosis, parenthood, and the Lindsay Clancy trial. Montell and Kristin Jordan also talk a...bout their new children’s book, helping kids face their fears, parenting, and parental guilt. Plus, Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to Nigerian nationals extradited over online love scams and money laundering. Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:24 Salomeyne Nicod. Peace to the planet. It's Monday. How y'all feel out there? I feel blessed black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning. Good morning. What's up?
Starting point is 00:02:36 Lauren, how you feel? I'll see you out in about Fashion Week. Yes, I am tired, but I am here. I had a great week, great weekend. A great night last night. Took me outside. Yeah, we was in these streets last night. That's why I got on shades right now.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Why? You know what I mean? I don't know. I feel like my eyes might be puffy or something. Oh, is it? No, you got to hold them regular.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Yeah, you look fine. You still feel like last night. Last night was fun. Yeah, we had a good time last night. What did you guys do last night? We went to Jay-Z's J-N-8,
Starting point is 00:03:07 J-Z-N-8 documentary premiere in New York. So I ended my, I was say I ended my fashion week with that, but fashion week's still going. Yeah, still going on. Yeah, still going on. It really started Thursday, but people just do their own thing.
Starting point is 00:03:19 That's crazy, well? I was at a Vizu. Slupt to a Vizu, they had a fashion You ain't have as much fun as us Huh? You ain't have as much fun as us I sure did I think I had more fun
Starting point is 00:03:28 You know you didn't I sure did I promise you I did I promise you I did I promise you I did I promise you She gonna report it in a little bit
Starting point is 00:03:35 What my weekend was like But uh Slued everybody in the Visu They had a fast week event What is a Vizu? The jeans These are these is a Vizu They had a block party
Starting point is 00:03:45 And I pulled up to them last night And I was in Detroit yesterday And salute to everybody At Detroit at the sandbox and I got a chance to watch my Giants play last night. The Giants played last night? Not really. They didn't really play.
Starting point is 00:03:59 It was no competition. We'll talk about it a little bit. The football team didn't start? Yeah, it started. It started. There was no competition, though. That's crazy. I didn't know what started.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Did my team get the memo? No, they didn't get the memo. They didn't know what was going on last night. We'll talk about that in front page. We'll tell me about the Hove. So what happened at the Hove event last night? We're going to get into it in the Lamemo. but it was exciting. I got to meet
Starting point is 00:04:23 Jay Z and Beyonce. You did? Yes. That's crazy. They introduced themselves. Yes, that's crazy. So humble. So humble. Jay Z was like, I don't think we met before. I'm Jay. I was like, duh, yeah. Like, I didn't even know how to respond to that like, like, duh. I'm la la la Lauren. No, I knew my name, but I'm like, why you're telling me your name? Like, I like, that's all the time. Beyonce does that all the time. That's what people of respect and honor and high integrity do. Very much so. It was a great night, great room, but just a good time.
Starting point is 00:04:52 But the conversation and that documentary, when it drops and people get to watch it, it's going to be real... It comes out on the... We didn't see it in full either, by the way. We didn't, and we only saw it. I believe it was just a full episode. You only saw a part of it. What's that just an episode? I don't even know if it was a full episode, but we saw a part
Starting point is 00:05:08 of the documentary. That's crazy. I didn't even think about that. That might have been a whole episode. It felt like it was great, though. Yeah, because it was like an hour long. But I thought, for whatever reason, I was thinking that they was just going to do one song in episode, but no, they do like three or four songs in episodes. And it releases in full on the 18th. But you're going to break down what it's about. Yeah, we're going to break down what
Starting point is 00:05:24 it's about and we're going to get into kind of, you know, what we got to watch and some of the things. It's about what all of this should be about, and that's culture. Okay. Music and culture. You know what I'm saying? Like, when we think about what we do, it's really music and it's the intersectionality of music and, you know, sometimes, well, a lot of times fashion, you know, but yes, it's about culture. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:44 It's 30 years of a prolific career. I would never, ever in my life downplayed an inspiration that somebody like JZ provides for a human like me. That's right. Never ever. All right. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I'm still sweating. I'm like, why you're sweating? He's sweating. He just got it. I didn't even drink. It was just, everything was hot last night. You didn't think everything was hot? It was humid.
Starting point is 00:06:05 It was just enjoying it. It was humid outside last night. It was humid outside for a little bit. It was cool in the buildings and it was cool in the building, but it felt like somebody turned the AC off so it was a little hot. Then you start dancing. You know what I mean? But that was last thing.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Why you still wiping sweat? Because I just ran up upstairs. Okay. That's the reason why? I just ran up them two flights of stairs. Well, let's get the show kind of. And I had on a jacket when I walked in here. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I don't know why. Then I was jogging down the block to get here. Let's get the show cracking. Kristen Amato, Jordan, will be joining us. They have a new children's book, Shiloh, and the Not So Scarey girl above his bed. I thought it was under his bed. It's above his bed. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Yeah, not so scary. Oh, no, no, no. Above his bed because the monster is told from the perspective of the monster. So the monsters under the bed. And also, man, Dr. Jessica Clemens will be joining us today. Dr. Jessica Clemens is a board certified. psychiatrist. And the reason I really wanted her here this morning is because all of these conversations we're having about postpartum psychosis. Yep. Because of the Lindsay Clancy case.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And, you know, World Mental Health Day is right around the corner. So she's a great person to have here to talk to this morning. All right. Well, let's get the show cracking. Today is Nas's birthday. Queens get the money. Can we get some Nas on this morning? Happy born day, Nassia. I take that. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envi. Jess Hilarious. Sholomey and the guy. We are the breakfast club. Let's get some front page news. Let's start with some football. Seriously, the NFL started?
Starting point is 00:07:25 The Lions beat the Saints 31-30. Shult to everybody in Detroit. What up, Doe. The Ravens beat the Colts. The Jets. Wow. Jets beat the Titans. The Titans beat the Titans. The Steelers beat the Falcons. Vikings beat the Packers. Cardinals beat the charges. Eagles beat the commanders. Raiders beat the dolphins.
Starting point is 00:07:40 The Bears squashed the Panthers. The Bills will beat the Texans. The Bengals beat the Buccaneers. Oh, yeah. And them Giants. Where you at, Trav, I see you all in the game, all in the video. The Giants beat the Cowboys, 28 to 20. I didn't even know the NFL season started, Joe.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I was watching college football. Sloat to South Carolina State. They beat Virginia State 66 to 0. Okay, USC, South Carolina Gamecocks, they busted ass on Saturday as well. Cowboys look bad last night. I just want to put that out there. The Cowboys played. I don't believe this, y'all.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Giants are going to the Super Bowl. Didn't it just start? I don't care. The Cowboys got smacked. They got squash. Now slow down. The score was 28 to 20. I thought you to watch the game.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I didn't, but I heard. Somebody told me. Now you heard. The score was 28 to 20. I was out in about last night. But I was, the game was the score of 28 to 20. You guys. You got busted ass.
Starting point is 00:08:30 We didn't do all that. We didn't bust ass. Oh, y'all going to lose. You shut down. You know my squad. You know what we got. There's no way I said that Friday. There's no way I said that Friday because I didn't even know the season was starting Sunday.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Good morning. Good morning. M. Good morning. M.B. How y'all doing this morning? Good morning. Tamisha Brown from Howard University.
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Starting point is 00:09:04 Okay. Let's get right into this. So President Trump this morning, you guys, is doubling down on those $5,000 checks we told you about last week. He's promising those checks who every American adult if Republicans keep control. of Congress. Now, Trump, he first announced this idea last week, and on Sunday, he was asked, this was yesterday when he was in Ireland, he was asked whether Congress would have to approve the money and whether the government could actually afford it. Let's listen.
Starting point is 00:09:29 If the Republicans win, as I said, it's $5,000 of all adults in the country, and we can easily handle that because we're taking in so much money. We've never done better. The Democrats can't make that pledge because it'll all go to hell right away. The Democrats get in, you'll go into a When we get in, we will continue this incredible situation. I mean, we have the strongest, we've ever been. We have trillions of dollars coming into the country. And the 5,000 is going to everybody. I made that pledge.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I always keep my pledge. This is what I understand, right? Like, you know, Republicans currently control both chambers of the U.S. Congress. Why don't somebody just ask them a simple question? How come you just don't give people the checks now? Right now. Right now. Why do you just don't do it right now?
Starting point is 00:10:13 Like, I don't understand why the media is even playing this game with him. Somebody's had to ask them that already, right? I thought of it because right now, there's already Republicans and both in the Senate and in the House and the presidency. And they hold majorities in both of them in the House and Senate. You cut the check now. Exactly. But it's important to say that critics are calling this a campaign bribe and attempt to buy votes and they are telling voters not to fall for it. And so we will continue to follow that.
Starting point is 00:10:43 But Congress would also have to vote on something like that. the president does not have the power to just give everyone a $5,000 check. And this morning, there's a major shakeup coming to SNAP benefits, and it's supposed to happen at the end of September. So this is all part of President Trump's one big, beautiful bill. So there are already work requirements in place, which have made it harder for people to keep their SNAP benefits, not to mention the administrative hurdles signing up now takes. Those extra steps have led people, you know, just being kicked off the program. And now what's new this morning is the question of who is going to bear the cost of SNAP, the administrative costs. So right now, states pay half.
Starting point is 00:11:24 But starting October 1st, they'll pay 75 percent, and that could lead to more people being kicked off because that's a bigger burden for states to bear. So right now it's 50-50. Starting October 1st, states will have to take on more of that cost and pay 75 percent. Food access groups, they're calling for Congress to push this back. They say states need more time to figure out how they're going to come up with this extra funding so that people do not get kicked off of their SNAP benefits. So we will continue to watch that. And lastly, you may have noticed that gas prices keep creeping back up. The national average.
Starting point is 00:11:58 They are high. Yes. They have definitely gone way back up. So just 13 cents in the last week, about 30 cents this month. So we're at about $4.30. But the diesel may be the bigger story. It is now the highest it's ever been topping $6 a gallon nationwide. The average is $6.
Starting point is 00:12:18 In California, it's like $8.30 for the first time. And that matters because even if you don't drive diesel, you don't drive. Truckers do in those trucks. They move your food. They move your clothes. Just about anything you buy. And so here's what everyday people are saying about the gas prices. This is crazy out here.
Starting point is 00:12:34 You worked so hard to make ends meet and take care of your family. And next to you know, gas them went up overnight. I just wish the gas price. prices were a lot cheaper so we could all do things that are extra, you know, like groceries. It's now $48 to do my, to do a half a tank. Isn't that awful? That's a crime. And your president got the nerve to tell y'all we'll go into a depression if Dems get back in power in the midterms. The truth of the matter is we might, though, because we are already on that trajectory because of Donald Trump and all the foolish policies he's implemented that have us in this current debacle that we're in. All right.
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Starting point is 00:14:01 Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray! Yo, Charlemagne, Lizzie, what up? Are we live? This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on the breakfast. Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now.
Starting point is 00:14:14 We'll tell you what it is. We live! Hello, who's this? Damien from Connecticut. Damien from Connecticut. What are? Damon, get it off your chest. Yeah, well, envy.
Starting point is 00:14:22 How we feel in the Giants? One last night? I feel great. How you feel, Damon? Oh, I feel great. You know, it's good to beat them boys week one. Yo, shut the hell. That didn't even happen.
Starting point is 00:14:32 You're making up stuff. We looked good yesterday, too, man. I told everybody. We're going to be pretty good. Our O-line just need to be a little better, but we look pretty good last night. Oh, Del Lough, thanks. Odell didn't really go down.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Oh, okay, I thought he looked good because you always thought he was cute. No, he didn't get too much burn last night. Bye. That's what you got for us there? Bye. Yeah, I love you, man. Yeah, love him too.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Bye. He'll love her. He'll love her. I'm not hurt. I didn't even know the game happened last night. Yes, you did. Hello, who's this? Hi, good morning.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Good morning. Is Jess here? No, she took off. She had, I think, like, six, seven shows this weekend. in Baltimore, so I'm sure she was supposed to take off, but she took off. It's not, but she did take off. Okay. Hi, DJ and Z. Hi, Charleneen. I watch all every morning. Good morning. Peace. How are you?
Starting point is 00:15:21 I'm doing okay. I don't want to give something off my chest. Go ahead, Mama. So, I lost one of my pups about two months ago. Oh. And my daughter was the one that witnessed it. I didn't even see it, and she's only six. And, you know, the last couple of months, she's just insane. Like, Mom, you know, I want another dog. And I was like, okay, well, I started searching.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And, you know, I did, like, Facebook Marketplace and everything. The same way I got my other dog. And I purchased so many things, and I've never had an issue. Well, I found a dog, and it was so cute, and I showed it to her. And we drove about an hour, and I paid a deposit. And when we got there, they blocked me. And it wasn't even about the money. It was more so just my daughter.
Starting point is 00:16:11 just crying and crying and saying why do people lie? Why did they block you? Yeah, yeah, what happened? Why didn't block you? They didn't want to pay. I think it was just a scam. They didn't really have the dog. They just really took my deposit.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Oh, man. You said the dog was coming from where? Well, I live in Louisiana, and so they were meeting me closer to Laplace. So I drove me and my daughter about an hour to meet them. And it was so hard Just watching her Just so upset That she was like
Starting point is 00:16:46 Why would people do this? What kind of dog What kind of dog? It was a small little Brown Kikup T-Poodle It was the cutest thing It was a teacup
Starting point is 00:16:56 One of small ones Yeah And It's just You know People are just so mean And And I told
Starting point is 00:17:03 I said Look we're gonna find you on We're gonna find somebody That's honest And I said Next time You know We're gonna get
Starting point is 00:17:10 a dog. Why don't you go to the local shelter and rescue one of those dogs? I didn't know people buy dogs on Facebook marketplace, but you know, think about going to the shelter
Starting point is 00:17:20 and getting one of those dogs that actually need a home and, you know, I don't want to say close to death, but you know, go adopt a dog. No. I wanted to be, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:31 a little cute small, like where I did have. I had a small pomeraine. I think she just liked dogs. All the small dogs. Tiny, you know, she could be having the bed with her
Starting point is 00:17:40 and things like that. She just has a visualization of what she wants. Can I ask you a question? I know this might be a little too traumatic, but how did she witness the dog passing? Like, what happened? Well, we still went about an acre land, but whenever she was leaving with my grandmother,
Starting point is 00:17:55 the dog ran out the house behind them and ran into the street. Damn! So it was like right in front of her. So when I heard her screaming, that's when I came out and... Man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I witnessed some of the... Something like that when I was young, man. My cousin, I only won't say his name, but he had a little dog and that dog got loose and ran off into the highway while we was at the bus stop waiting on the bus and got hit by a car. And the way he screamed and ran into the middle of the highway and dropped to his knees was so sad.
Starting point is 00:18:27 You just never forget it. Yes, it was sad. I didn't see it, but what I am grateful for that, you know, when Hazel did pass, it only broke her neck, but it wasn't like flattered blood, you know, I was crazy. Now, come on now. That was crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Why would you say it like that now? That would you mean only a pocket snack? That was horrible. I'm so sorry for you stopped. Thank you so much for calling it. Listen, I hope that y'all find a dog, though. I didn't know you buy dogs on Facebook marketplace.
Starting point is 00:18:56 If you all know anybody or if anybody in the Louisiana area that's so small dogs, I would just like them to reach out via email or something. Can I get my email? Sure, go ahead. It's Elisa E-L-I-S-A-M-A-M-A-R-S-A-L-I-S at Yahoo.com
Starting point is 00:19:19 Lisa, I don't want you to think I'm laughing at you. I don't want nobody that's watching to think I'm laughing. No, no, because our board out bread is so stupid. You're talking about, no, she can't go to the shelter because the shelter only got pit bulls. Like, the pit bulls are just so downtrodden. I mean, I'm not. They want to the shelter.
Starting point is 00:19:33 They got all the shelter. Like, the pit bulls are just so wild. Like, the pit bulls are. It might. He traumatized her. Like, if you see a dog like near death, he's probably, like, why are you doing? Yeah, I didn't mean to say near death.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I just, I don't know what I'm trying to say. Thank you, ma'am. I'm just trying to say, the shelter is a good place to go get dogs. A lot of these dogs need a home. Okay, just think of these dogs as little tiny orphans. All right. A little four-legged orphans that need a home. And that's why.
Starting point is 00:19:57 And that's why. Annie was a puppy. Right. But that's why your mom asked you sometimes. Don't ask, right? Because he might not really want to know what happened to the dog. You ain't have to ask that. She said the dog passed away.
Starting point is 00:20:08 That's all you needed to know. No, I did witness the dog. I witnessed the dog get hit by a car before, man. I'm going to tell you, my cousin. And it's just the way he, it was his reaction, not the fact that the dog fell out. I discovered my dog dead. He looked to the sky and screamed this blood curdling screams. And he ran out in the highway and dropped to his knees.
Starting point is 00:20:25 We were like, you're going to get hit next if you don't get up the road. Oh, he was on his knees. On his knees in the highway. The highway, highway 17-8 in Moscow, North Carolina. I'll never forget that as long as I live. This Monday. Get it off your chest. 800.5.05.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Lord her mercy. Mr. Breakfast, Love, good morning. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk. I hate the way that you dress. Everything with me is best. Call up now.
Starting point is 00:20:55 800-585-1051. Not just me. I'm with the coach of feeling. Yo, it's Q from Atlanta. Q. Q. What's up? Q. What's up?
Starting point is 00:21:04 Today's my birthday. Holy shit. I'm on the phone with y'all. Happy morning. Happy birthday, Q. How old are you, young man? Appreciate it. I just turned 35 a day.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Okay. Congratulations, young man. Happy birthday, brother. Hey, and I want to tell you that something. Like, last year, my third grade best friend called in, and I heard him on the radio on here and whatnot. That was so dope. What's her name?
Starting point is 00:21:25 No. It was Mark, but I'm Q, and we went to school together. Hold on. Now, you said his name, you said her, but then you said Mark. No, he said, he said my best friend from third grade. He didn't say he or she. Yeah. I thought you said.
Starting point is 00:21:38 He never been Mark. No, his name is Mark. Because it can change. He could have been marking third grade. He could have been right. He might be Michelle now. Q is from Atlanta, so. Nah, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:21:48 But yeah, appreciate y'all. Happy morning, King. Appreciate it, appreciate it. Have it good day. Have some fun on this Monday, man. Enjoy life. Celebrate it. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:21:56 Hello. Hey, good morning. Who? How are y'all doing? What's Adele? What's up, bro? Yeah, I'm a little time in the gym right now. I'm getting punished for him.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Just a show last night. There you. I'm on the show. That's nasty, man. You in the gym getting punished and putting on a show. I got a big one of the pounds from last night. He said he went to Jess's show last night, right? Oh.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Yeah. And so he up this night. I wanted the show. I wanted a show loves to Jess, man. Speaking was so amazing. She has a special way of making people so soon and known, even though she talks to 1,000 of people. And for some reason, she remembered me.
Starting point is 00:22:31 She said what's funny. You know, you see the work that she puts behind the scenes from how she shows up on the stage. You can tell she putting those thousand hours of work to do what she does. And she does so much by my heart to, uh, I want to say, say, says because of how much worse she presents, even when she has a family, children. And also got to see both her, her husband and her baby father at the book sign.
Starting point is 00:22:57 It's pretty cool. So that's what's all. I'm looking for it. I'm right. Thank you, brother. Hello, who's this? Good morning. This is Dee Dee Dee.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Hey, Dee. He's Dee Dee. I'm calling with some boldness behind my voice this morning. Good morning, man. How are you feeling? Good morning. I'm doing fabulous. I'm calling from Chicago, and I just want to share my favorite Bible birth with y'all. It's Mark 1124, and it says, therefore I say unto you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe you have received it, and it shall be yours. And it shall be yours. Yes, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Listen, I also would love to, I also would like to boldly ask if Lauren Larosa would be my mentor. My mentor. Lawrence doesn't need a mentor. First of all, I have mentors. How old are you, ma'am? I would love to be her mentee. Her mentee. How old are you?
Starting point is 00:23:44 Oh, my, could you never escalating for age? I'm in my mid-30. Okay. I don't think that matters. I don't think age matters when it comes to mentorship. What are you looking for mentorship? It's her wisdom and it's her connection. And, you know, I'm really trying to get into boys' work.
Starting point is 00:23:58 And, you know, it doesn't have to be a long-standing mentorship. I know she's busy. But I would just really love to get, you know, pour into her and let her know that she's amazing and I know that she would be an amazing mentor as well how much she pay you to call in and say this this morning thank you not one time
Starting point is 00:24:14 not one time we can take your email I've never done voice work but I mean I guess it's radio voice work because absolutely it's media and all that yeah yeah okay and that what you want to do you want to be in media she wants to do voice work I absolutely do yeah
Starting point is 00:24:29 Chalaman yes I mean if you need some voice of work for a black privilege publishing listen I'm here. I know we always need people to read audio books. That's a very interesting. And I would listen. If I could offer a critique,
Starting point is 00:24:43 listen, the commercials, I am an avid Apple podcast listener and the commercials that y'all have there, that guy with the sinus situation, listen, I would love to replace him. The sign of situation.
Starting point is 00:24:56 What guy with a sign of situation? Oh, no. You have a guy that does ads and he, yeah. On what? On the black effect? Apple podcast Apple podcast
Starting point is 00:25:06 I gotta go listen Yeah all right But hold on we're gonna put you a hole Yeah Cause somebody called me The other day And told me about I guess the wildfires
Starting point is 00:25:14 That they say it's still going on I guess that They've been playing the same commercials And they're saying that the weather's never right Well that's a production issue Yeah because somebody Somebody tweeted me one day And was like
Starting point is 00:25:24 It is not whatever degrees I said it was It was like it is not that degrees Can they update it? I was like Listen that's the producers in the program But nobody cares about Micromanaging radio stations anymore they just don't give it there
Starting point is 00:25:35 Nope Get it off your chest 800 585151 D D D's on line too By the way guys D's what D D D D's the lady That just called
Starting point is 00:25:43 That you just spoke to Oh see you could hit me With a good D's nuts In your mouth joke just now That wasn't even thinking about it I didn't drink it I was on water boy He's naturally thinking about those in his mouth
Starting point is 00:25:53 That was on water Yeah That was water The variable or something No nothing See it's hard for me to sleep On Sunday nights Anyway for whatever reason
Starting point is 00:26:00 It's been hard for me To sleep on Sunday nights For years So I didn't have a problem being out last night. You know what time we left last night? Like 12? 12 something, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I got home like one something. Yeah, because like 145 when I was laying in a bit. Well, the latest for Lauren's up next. What we're talking about? Yeah, we're going to get into our night last night and we got a big announcement that Envy's going to help me do.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I'm not going to help me. We'll talk about it in the latest. Is really how you want to reveal your pregnancy? Start playing with me. Wow. Congrats. No, I had a bunch of... Who's the father?
Starting point is 00:26:28 I drank last night. First of all, don't ever... Damn, that was crazy. Yes. That was crazy. Don't play. Not long, I would never see it. Yes, you would.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Yes, you would. Yes, you would. In real life, you would. Yes, 100% would. No, I am not pregnant. We have another announcement. It involves the next. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:43 We'll talk about it. We'll get to it next. Y'all are pissing me off. That was wild. I don't know why he would do that. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it. Hello.
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Starting point is 00:30:37 If little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you. L.L. Cubey, talk to me. So last night got, well, first of all, good morning again. Good morning. Yes. Good morning, L.L. Cubei. Lauren Larosa. Oh, Lord.
Starting point is 00:30:49 So last night, if y'all wondering why Charlemagne is sitting in here with these glasses on, if you can't hear him, you will hear Uncle. Still, whatever he was. hide from last night because you didn't drink. It's all dopamine. No alcohol, no drugs, no edible. This is just all dopamine. So we were out last night. We went to Jay-Z's
Starting point is 00:31:07 Jay-Z-N-8 documentary premiere here, world premiere, here in New York City. Now this went down, first of all, it was just beautiful from start to finish. Like, it went down at the Metropolitan Opera House here in New York and you walk in, not even inside. As soon as
Starting point is 00:31:23 you walked in the outside, like area, right? It was set up and there was like a live orchestra playing all of Jay Z's music. It was everybody in suits. That was an orchestra? Yes, they had a lot. You see, you was,
Starting point is 00:31:36 once we got in there, you know Charlemagne, he'd say hi to everybody. You can't go nowhere with Charlemagne. Once you got through the red carpet part, yes, you walked in. There was an orchestra in the middle that was set up. We also came in toward the end of it.
Starting point is 00:31:44 It was kind of breaking down and we were heading inside at the same time too. But yeah, so black suits, everybody dressed to the nine, bars set up everywhere. Like, people walking around with the Ace of State. Bottles, yes. From the beginning of the event, Envy.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Right? So we finally are on our way in. I bought the bathroom lines be so long at Rock Nation events, by the way. I did have to wait in the bathroom line twice. Really? Yes. I mean, yes. I drink water liquor.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah. Well, I didn't do that bad last night. I didn't do that bad for you is bad for anybody. Okay. Well, anyway. I was monitoring her as well. He was. All my way in, I'm walking in.
Starting point is 00:32:18 And I turned to, I didn't even get to fully turn. Jay's right there. He's like, I don't know if we've ever met. I'm Jay. I was like, I want to say, yeah, you are. That's exactly what she did, too. Thank God, Angela Rye was standing next to me, and she was like, she made a joke of it. She was like, yeah, she didn't know.
Starting point is 00:32:36 She had no idea. Because I was, I can't believe he just, because I was going to go, hey, I'm Lauren. And he goes, hey, I'm Jay. Like, yes, you are. Like him and I met Beyonce as well last night, too, at the after event that we went to, some of the nicest people ever, ever, ever. But yeah, it was a great event. So we got inside of the theater and we sat down and watched. the, I don't even know if it was like a full
Starting point is 00:32:57 episode, but it was a good enough portion of some of the documentary that Jay-Z has coming on September 18th with Rick Rubin. So what's the documentary about? That's the only thing I'm unclear about. Was that a full episode and we watched one episode? Or was it piece together? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:13 I can't answer that question right now. And I should have asked last night, but I think I was just so in the moment. But I'll be able to answer it shortly. But, so the documentary is about Jayzee's music and career. You know, he's celebrating 30 years, Reasonable Doubt, But this documentary is eight total episodes. The first one's going to, the first two were going to drop on September 18th.
Starting point is 00:33:31 And they use his songs to break down his journey, not even just like as an artist, but like from when he was nine years old up into coming into, you know, like a man and a father and a husband. And they literally really break down the music. Like you're watching the words on screen, him reacting to it in real time. Some of the songs he hadn't heard since he put out. So like you see the raw emotion. Wow. Well, 4-44, he said he hardly ever listens to.
Starting point is 00:33:54 By the way, that was just. even uncomfortable to watch in the room. Beyonce and Jay Z sitting right behind you as it's happening. You know, Envy. That's the song where he apologized for you. Don't say you know. Don't throw that on me. I don't want to know.
Starting point is 00:34:05 We know. I don't act like we don't. I'm not going to be. Neither am I. I'm just saying we know how that feels to be in this. I'm just thinking like I could never watch this in front of people. This is something I might, I might do. Like, you know, you'll write about it in a book, but then people go.
Starting point is 00:34:21 But watch that in front of people. The song, the song, Shalameen is talking about guys is, is the song where Jay-Z is talking about when Blue Ivy and their children grow up and he has to explain some of the different things that have went down in their relationship and how that's going to impact him in their family as a man and just those conversations.
Starting point is 00:34:38 But yeah, it was a great night. Thanks for the invite, Sharr. Listen, I will never ever downplay the inspiration that Jay-Z has provided in my life. I would never downplay the inspiration that Jay-Z has provided a whole generation. Okay, and this generation calls it glazing. I call it celebrating
Starting point is 00:34:54 excellence, and we should all hope, that we do something or have some type of career that can be celebrated in 30 years because we're celebrating 30 years of reasonable doubt, 25 years of the blueprint those things deserve to be celebrated. That's right.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Yep. And I have some audio or some video of Jay-Z on the Brown Girl Grinding Instagram. Make sure you guys go check that out. He actually welcomed us when we sat down in the theater. But before we get out of here, I do want to make an announcement. Speaking of New York, the Knicks City Kids Dancers, Now these are the official youth dance team for the New York Knicks.
Starting point is 00:35:27 They perform with the team. Envy's daughters. Two of Envy's daughters. Yes, both of his daughters made the team. Now, this is really, really competitive to do. Over a thousand kids tried out. They picked about 26 kids. Evian, I know your daughter's been dancing for,
Starting point is 00:35:42 both of them have been dancing for about two years. Yeah, very short amount of time, two and about two and a half years. And out, out of all those kids that tried out, both of them made the team. Yes. So that's what I said. We were celebrating all week. Wow. You got a bomb for them.
Starting point is 00:35:53 one time, which is amazing. So they will be at the home games dancing. So I will probably be at every Knicks game now. If I have to buy a ticket or not, I will be there watching my babies there. So I am super duper excited. I am so proud of them. The fact that they... Big year for them and to be a part of that team.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Yes. And just just the, you know what it is? It's the work. It's the effort. It's the fact that they practice when nobody tells them to. It's the fact that they push themselves to be better. It's the fact that they're always online watching other dancers and dance and the fact that dad is there and got a chance to see that this week it was their first rehearsal so i got to see them dance with the other kids it's just it's just dope man is that translating the dollars now i'm not saying it's a big gig it's a big it's what i'm talking
Starting point is 00:36:36 now we talk about it's a big so they get paid for rehearsals they get paid for actually dancing on you know what i'm talking about they get money for so this is their first job right so they're super duper excited this is a crazy first job yes and even think about it like that yes my daughter was a cheer i'm a cheery I'm here dad. Ain't no money in chair. All we do is spin, spin, spin. How old is you?
Starting point is 00:36:58 Two. One is 10, one is 13. Wow. And they're already making money off dance. Congratulations, Envy. So you gear in the family. Like, that is a major accomplishment. I know they're listening this morning
Starting point is 00:37:08 probably on their way to school. I love you guys. Congratulations. I'm so proud, man. You brought tears to my face just watching them. Because they just started two years ago. You always cry every time they dance.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Every time I've seen them dance and I've watched him. You're right. You're father, man. Proud father. Yeah. But it was a beautiful. celebration of the things over the weekend, I'm sure. It was great.
Starting point is 00:37:27 So, again, congratulations. And salute to the New York Mix and the New York NICC City kids and the dances. We appreciate you guys. And I'm happy. All right. Now, when we come back, we got front page news. Mimi will be joining us. And then Dr. Jess will be joining us.
Starting point is 00:37:41 You know Dr. Jess. She's been up here many of the times. Ask Jess. Yes. And we're going to talk to in a little bit. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:37:47 It's DJ NV. Jess hilarious. Salomey and the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Now let's start off with some quick sports. Last night, the Lions beat the Saints. The Ravens beat the Colts.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Jets beat the Titans, Steelers, beat the Falcons. The Vikings beat the Packers. Cardinals beat the Chargers. Eagles beat the commanders, Raiders, beat the Dolphins, Bears, beat the Panthers, bills, beat the Texans, the Jaguars, the Bengals beat the Buccaneers. And the Giants! The New York Giants!
Starting point is 00:38:15 Beat the Cowboys 28-2-20. You're putting a lot on this for no reason. But you mean, you're going to the Super Bowl. Yes, we go into the Super Bowl. and the Calgary girls No, you're not. We're O and one, you're one and O. Yes, we're undefeated right now.
Starting point is 00:38:28 The Giants are undefeated. Nobody beat us. We are undefeated. Y'all just got here. So what? You putting too much sauce on this? No, I'm not. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:38:37 All right. And tonight, the Broncos take on Kansas City Chiefs on ESPN. Hello, Mimi. Hilarious envy. Undefeated. All right, y'all. Front page news is sponsored by Morgan and Morgan, America's largest law firm.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Let's get into this Tasia Fortune story. Have you guys heard about this arrest? No, what happened? Yeah, so there was an arrest made in the death of Tasia Fortune. She was a 29-year-old black woman who was found hanging from the tree in Mississippi. We talked about this probably a couple weeks ago. Her body was found on August 3rd. For weeks, there were questions about exactly what happened, how she died,
Starting point is 00:39:18 and now Mississippi State Medical Examiner, they have officially ruled her death a homoenix. homicide. Police have arrested a suspect and charged him with murder. Jackson police, they announced the arrest. Let's listen to that press conference. We secured two search warrants and an arrest warrant for Jacques Ratliff, also known as Jacques. Mr. Ratliff was not at the location when officers arrived. However, as our staff and team were returning to JPD headquarters, they encountered Mr. Ratliff walking along Capitol Street. Officers took him into custody without any incident. That arrest today is an important development in this
Starting point is 00:39:55 investigation, but it is not the conclusion. This case remains active and additional arrest will be pending as our investigators continue to follow the evidence wherever it leads. That's horrible, man. And it's sad that we keep hearing so much
Starting point is 00:40:11 about these lynchings that are happening. It's like, and you don't even know the names. Because you just hear every day, every other day, it's like, oh, another person got found, another person got found. I got found. I don't even think I heard about the Tays of Fortune case. If I did, I don't remember the name. Yeah, I was going to ask you.
Starting point is 00:40:26 When did this happen? This happened on August 3rd. We talked about it here, but at the time, she was found behind a abandoned building. And people were just trying to figure out, like, you know, what happened. And there was also some speculation of who could have caused it. And so now the police are saying that it was Jacques Rodcliffe. But a lot of people online, they're not buying this as the full story because they're questioning whether this one man who looks, you know, older was able to do such a thing, because I don't know if you guys remember when we spoke about it.
Starting point is 00:40:58 We said that she was so high up. They had to have a fire truck ladder. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so they're questioning, you know, how one person was able to do that. Now, the police chief just said in that soundbite, though, that they are looking for other suspects. There will be more arrests coming forth. So we'll just follow this to see what will continue to happen. but they have not explained how they believe her body was placed in that tree.
Starting point is 00:41:22 And so a lot of people online are speculating, you know, he couldn't have done that alone. Scary. We will continue to follow that. And now to a new twist in the Lindsay Clancy case and the growing backlash over the lone holdout juror and how he is being treated. So remember the jury was 11 to 1. 11 jurors were prepared to find Clancy not criminally responsible for killing her three children. one juror disagreed, forcing a mistrial. But now we're learning something that we didn't know about that holdout juror,
Starting point is 00:41:52 that he was a black man in his 30s, the only black juror on the panel. Now that came out during an interview with CBS this morning. And Gail King, she was the one who actually broke this news. Let's listen to the reaction that she had. One person of color was a person of color, a woman or a man? A man. A man. Is a holdout juror a person, a black man?
Starting point is 00:42:15 Yes. A black man is a holdout juror? Yes. Well, I have to sit with that for just a second. Lord knows I love me some Gail King, but I just need her to explain that reaction. I don't understand why she reacted like that. Like, what did him being a black man and holding out have to do with anything? I'm shocked that it wasn't more jurors who didn't feel like how he felt.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Yeah, well, when you look at the makeup of the jury, I think her first question was what the jury makeup looked like and to find out that there was only one person of color and it was a black man who was the holdout. I think she was kind of just sitting in that for a second. But I think the bigger story this morning is NBC in Boston. They started digging into the jurors' personal life reporting his past domestic violence allegations. When he was bringing order an eviction case that he had,
Starting point is 00:43:05 the station they did not release his name. We still don't know his name. His name is not public. But critics are pointing out that jurors are supposed to have a privacy and a protection. Yeah, absolutely. You know, this morning, yeah, so them digging into his personal life, you know, and all that being investigated, they're wondering whether the 11 other jurors would be facing this kind of scrutiny if, you know, it was the other way. So now that we find out that he's a black man, are we doing a little bit extra digging because, you know, he was the lone holdout who didn't go the other way, which the 11 other jurors went.
Starting point is 00:43:36 And he can't sue because they didn't put his name out there, right? They didn't put his identity out there, so he can't sue. No. They didn't put his identity out. out there, but they put all his business out there. I mean, from arrest warrants to interviewing family members, everything. Oh, interviewing family members, then yeah, then they clearly know who he is then, which is sad.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Yeah, they know who he is. They just haven't said the name out loud. They've vilifying, they've vilifying him more than they've vilifying Lindsay Clancy. That's right. That is exactly what they're saying. All right, y'all. Well, it looks like that is the end of front page news. We are running out of time, but injured, know your worth.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Morgan and Morgan. America's largest law firm, visit for the people.com. Well, we got the law firm battles going down. That's right. Morgan and Morgan versus Top Dog Law. That's right. Okay. Who will come out to Victor?
Starting point is 00:44:29 We will see. Thank you, Mimi. But listen, I want to keep this conversation going. We have Dr. Jessica Clemens coming in. Dr. Jessica Clemens is a board certified psychiatrist, and this is what she does. That's right. So the conversations about postpartum psychosis,
Starting point is 00:44:44 and your mental health surrounding pregnancy. She's the person to talk to. So we're going to keep this conversation going when she comes back. Great conversation. We'll do when we come back. So don't move. It's the breakfast club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess hilarious. Sholomey and the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lawn La Rosa's here as well. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed.
Starting point is 00:45:02 She's back, ladies and gentlemen, Dr. Jess. Welcome back. Feels good to be here. Very important to say Dr. Jessica Clemens is a board certified psychiatrist. Okay. All right. Graduate in Cornell, University. medical college completed your residency training at NYU.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Yes. At NYU, okay? Very important to say that. Why? I just want people to know that she really got her certification. Oh, that's just been up here before. I know, but you know. Okay. I want to reiterate to the people.
Starting point is 00:45:30 All right. Well, how are you feeling, Dr. Des. She's a real doctor. I'm feeling great. I'm glad you did that for me because I was going to try to find a way to bring that in. Oh, my God. Do y'all have to do that now? On platform?
Starting point is 00:45:40 I really, so before the controversy online, when people were talking about whether, you know, someone is a doctor or not. Yeah. I wouldn't think it's a thing. But now I do think it's important. People really need to know that the information they're getting from so-called doctors, you know, it's trusted. It's better. So, yeah, I feel like it's something that we do have to say.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Absolutely. And the last thing is medical doctors, it's easy to look up whether or not we're truly who we say we are. All you have to do is just take our name and the state we're licensed and you can see if the license is active. not. It's, you know, it doesn't take much to show your degrees and things like that. They're always on the wall behind me. Okay. Yeah. And I'm glad you're here because you're also a reproductive psychiatrist. So you treat women with postpartum and we've been having a lot of conversations about postpartum, especially because of the Lindsay Clancy situation. And I think it's very important because we spend nine months talking about women being pregnant, but never talk
Starting point is 00:46:36 about what happens to the mother psychologically after. Absolutely. Yeah. This is a newer area in psychiatry. Mass general is really leading in a lot of the research. Yeah, we don't talk about the hormonal effects, whether it's pregnancy, delivery, or even before. I take care of a lot of
Starting point is 00:46:56 women who talk about, wow, every couple of weeks out of the month, before my period starts, I'm just anxious or depressed. But we talk about that and we talk about treatment options that might include therapy or lifestyle modification, but also medication.
Starting point is 00:47:12 But when I'm thinking about like postpartum, especially to your point with the case that we've all kind of watched, I kept a little distance from some of the details there. But yeah, we're talking people are coming in depressed. It affects their ability to bond with the baby, which then also has effects on the infant child, right? If they're not properly bonding with their parent, the mother, that has, you know, some downstream effects. But there could absolutely be a role for medication for some women. It also could be a role for more support. Making sure that you have someone there to cover the night shift. I know personally that was just one of the hardest times after having a baby to be up all night
Starting point is 00:47:51 and just thinking about what that does to mood and irritability. So it's an area of medicine that's starting to really take the front center now. Well, let me just break down the Lindsay Clancy case for somebody that doesn't know. She was a, she's a 36-year-old former labor and delivery nurse. She strangled her three children, ages five, three, and eight months. before attempting suicide by jumping out of a second story window. She was not prosecuted on September 24th, 2026. It was a mistrial.
Starting point is 00:48:20 The judge declared a mistrial after seven days of deliberation. And this has been a big conversation of postpartum and all that. I wanted to ask, when I seen your name on the sheet early this week, well, last night, I called Charlemann. I'm like, is that Dr. Jess? Dr. Jess, because usually we don't see Dr. Jessica Clemens, right? We just see Dr. Jess is coming. And he was like, yeah, I was like, well, where has she been?
Starting point is 00:48:41 we haven't seen in a long time. And she was like, well, she dealt with post-partum. And I was like, wow. I was like, well, break down what it is. I've had six kids. You know, I have six kids. And thank God my wife didn't deal with it. So what makes somebody deal with having a child, like Charlemais said, so excited.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Nine months you're excited to have this baby, a baby that you created, and you deal with a nursery, and you build a crib, and the family's giving you gifts, and you can't wait, and you're picking outfits to look like your outfits, and you get so excited. And then you hear a lot of women say when the baby came, they didn't like the baby. They didn't want them. They didn't want the child next to them. Some women would say hate the baby. How do you get to that?
Starting point is 00:49:20 As a baby said this morning, our front page news person said she hated her son at first three years. Oh, wow. Wow. So how do you get there? Yeah. So for me, just to make sure people are okay with part of what I've been focusing on, I may answer the question, is really building my private practice and trying to shift away from social media as a primary. public, you know, space that I engage in. But how we get there. So during pregnancy, there's like big shifts in hormones, you know, estrogen is high and that's why the hair is like hearing and the
Starting point is 00:49:53 skin is all full. And just, you know, just really people just look great when estrogen levels are high. But after delivery, that starts to tail off pretty rapidly. And so for some people who are more sensitive, that's the language we kind of use in medicine, meaning one woman, may tolerate that estrogen drop off and another woman may not. The one who's more sensitive, the one who doesn't, may begin to have signs of like postpartum blues. In fact, 50 to 85% of women will experience that. That's not like depression where you're down. You really don't want to get out of bed. You're feeling hopeless, maybe even suicidal. It's more of like irritability. There might be some anxiety. You might be just a little like
Starting point is 00:50:36 frustrated, unable to connect, maybe some feelings towards the baby, not. at all like postpartum psychosis which I'll go into but that usually gets better once mom is you know properly she's got the nutrition back she feels supported she's focusing on rest a lot of what I advise women who come in after delivering is like you got to sleep even if you have to stop pumping or prioritizing trying to breastfeed like let's move on if it's not working for you but again part of what happens is the change in estrogen levels affect some women and then the work I mean it's hard taking care of a newborn especially when it's the first. You have no idea. You're like, to your point, you're getting ready. You're creating
Starting point is 00:51:14 the moment. You're getting the room ready. Then the baby arrives. And now this baby has to be fed 24-7. The only communication is through tears. I mean, it's stressful. And then if a lot of women do feel pressure to like breastfeed, to, you know, pump, that is around the clock, too, right? You can't just stop because you need to sleep. If you don't, you'll stop producing milk. So I think for some women, if they end up not being properly supported, that first couple of days when postpartum blues can show up, that can sort of start to set the stage for postpartum depression, anxiety. I support a lot of women who talk about how overwhelmed they feel. You know, they're worrying about this. Do I have enough for that?
Starting point is 00:51:57 So it starts to play into how they feel about themselves and how they feel about their performance and then even the children. It can be resentment that builds. Like what separates like the normal baby blues from the postpartum depression and the psychosis and the OCD? Like like like like help us understand the spectrum. Yes. Great question. So we look at this as like a continuum. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Some women before they became pregnant may have had a history of depression and anxiety already. But postpartum, this continuum of blues, depression, and psychosis can happen in any, any woman. Again, part of it is this like hormonal shift that some of it. people are more sensitive to, but Blue shows up about two to four days into post-delivery, and it levels off. And you're not depressed to the point where your mood is consistently down. You're sad. Literally, you can say, I feel depressed. You're not dealing with a lot of sleep issues. You're not sleeping great. You're caring for a baby, but you can fall asleep. If somebody takes that baby, you're out, right? You can fall asleep. Postpartum depression would have the
Starting point is 00:53:01 opposite. You're having trouble falling to sleep. Your appetite's low, stuck to your mattress. you're having a lot of thoughts of guilt, you're not enjoying things, you're hopeless, and some women will develop suicidal thoughts. That occurs maybe in the first couple of weeks. Two to four weeks is when we look for that. But this isn't the one that we're worried about the safety of the baby.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Postpartum psychosis is rare. It happens in about one to two deliveries out of a thousand births. So it's rare. Most women are not going to experience postpartum psychosis. But this is the one that was, I guess, kind of at the forefront of this case, which, you know, I don't really know if that's what it it was, eight months is not really the window.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Postpartum psychosis we're seeing in the first couple of weeks, but really at four weeks, we're not really expecting that to be there if it occurred. And it is a emergency, right? So the person will look disorganized. They might have mood fluctuations, so they're really elevated. They might be up all night, you know, talking and very just have all this energy or they might look depressed. They might be disorganized and like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:54:04 You're putting the remote in the, you know, bridge, it just something seems odd. But one of the hallmarks that's scary is if they start to communicate that they're hearing things or they start to believe that something's going on with you with the baby, they don't really want anyone with them. This can put the infant and family at risk of infant side or, you know. So it's an emergency in New York. There are so many resources.
Starting point is 00:54:28 There's a mother and baby unit, I think, at Mount Sinai. So it's not unusual if someone does present with this for them to get admitted. You'd have to be admitted, treated with the antipsychotics, but they'll keep the baby in the hospital with you, but you're not the primary when caretaking because the risk is that if they're alone, maybe these command auditory hallucinations might, you know, tip them into acting on it. But again, very rare. It's an emergency. Depression is probably a bit more common. Blues is incredibly common, but that resolves. What are your thoughts on paternity leave, right?
Starting point is 00:55:01 Because when I first heard about paternity leave, I laugh so loud. I was like, what the hell is a man need to take off, right? But now hearing what you're saying, I guess it's, it would be needed. A support. For support. Absolutely. I don't want to leave the men out. Yeah, because.
Starting point is 00:55:17 I didn't take paternity, did you? No. No. But I think things have developed since y'all that have had your children. But like, you said you don't want to leave the men out. You mean that in their mental space as well? Or just the fact that to talk a bit about that? Because I don't ever hear people talk about the men, like their side of it as well, too.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Yeah. So the first point, yes, support is really why I think men should absolutely advocate for. You don't want your partner, your spouse, whatever the situation is at home alone with all of the burden of care. But I think we also don't really talk about the changes that happen to men. This isn't like a hormonal conversation, but more or less just the big role that people are stepping into. So if it was just the two of you, that's a very different lifestyle, very different dynamic. now you might have someone who's like, actually, I really do need you to take the baby when I, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:07 when you come home. I don't need you to do your process to decompress. So that can also take a toll on people. Stress is one of the most notorious experience that people don't recognize, but contributes to things like anxiety, which is also going to have irritability in there. You know, anxiety isn't just this like cute, oh, I'm so worried, but people can be really edgy, snappy, right?
Starting point is 00:56:29 It also can bring up feelings of depression, whether it's a depressive episode or just the low mood that comes with. Maybe you're not connecting with your, you know, your partner anymore. Maybe it's demanding on you too. You worked all day. You want to come home and decompress,
Starting point is 00:56:43 but now you have this baby that you have to take care of. You're doing your wife's like this, but you understand. But it still affects you, right? So paternity leave is important. I wish in the U.S. It was longer. I think what,
Starting point is 00:56:56 it's like six weeks, maybe. Not long enough. that's still like a newborn. That baby is so tiny and developing. So I think if a man is on the fence about it, you just need to take it. Take the time, bond with the family, be supportive, figure out the new role, right,
Starting point is 00:57:13 so that it's not really just one person taking the lead on all the caretaking because that does affect the relationship as well and not pressuring also for sex. That's just something I want to throw in there. Say that again. Expound on that? That seems like that's been, since you said it like that, It seems like that's been a problem
Starting point is 00:57:30 and the issue with a lot of... Because you're supposed to do six weeks after it, right? People need a weight, right? Yeah, so the body can heal. But also just realizing that this woman, her body doesn't really even belong to her anymore, right? You've heard about being touched out when moms are talking about, like...
Starting point is 00:57:44 No. Okay, the kids are all on me. I don't want anybody else to touch you. Oh, like when mom needs to take like a hour, maybe an hour in the car before she walking out the driveway or she hiding in the closet because she just needs... She's tired. Don't touch me.
Starting point is 00:57:55 I know of that, but I didn't know it was called touched out. Touched out. like, you know, if you're nursing and you got a toddler with you and everybody's just grabbing for mom. Yeah. Right? At some point, it's just like, get off me. Right? So I was kind of being a little tongue and cheek here where I was saying men also need to give their women time to not make sex something that you start to also put the pressure on because she's adjusting to her body and the hormones and if she's lactating, you know, let her get her time to heal, but also for you too to figure out the dynamic now that kids are involved. We're talking about things a lot more now You can plan the nurses, the nannies, the sleep, all that But then you still get to some of the postpartum things
Starting point is 00:58:34 Is that something that like Can be passed down? Like your mom deals with it So then you dealt with it So you've done everything to try to fight it But like it still happens anyway Is that a thing as well? It can be
Starting point is 00:58:45 Yeah, the unfortunate part is we don't know What causes this experience in women It could be genetic It definitely we feel pretty confident that it's the hormonal shift that some people are more sensitive to. But I also think a lot about what's modeled, right? So what am I saying here? If you saw generation after generation, women take on more than their share,
Starting point is 00:59:12 and now they're irritable after birth and more tearful, is this something that's really postpartum blues? Yes, we would diagnose it as such, but is it that you saw women overdo it, not accept support? not expect the men in their lives to step in and take care of the things that they just are doing. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:35 So I often think like when we're talking genetics, how much of it is really the family system like passing on certain behaviors. But for now we don't know. I want people to know what to look out for. Can somebody experience postpartum psychosis and still have moments where they look completely rational? Like they could be cooking dinner. they answering text, taking care of the baby. That was what they were saying in the Clancy case. They said that she was functioning.
Starting point is 01:00:01 That's how the movies make it seem like that, too, when they have these characters that have, like, kind of like the Lindsay Clancy case. This is complicated. I'm privileged that I got to actually see people who are ill. A lot of mental health providers or psychiatric nurse practitioners, for example. There were people who trained in psychiatry outside of, like, great institutions, like NYU. NYU, by the way, is the VA hospital on First Avenue, Bellevue Hospital. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Okay. So we're seeing like everything. Wow. Okay. And that's where I got to see some of this. And then the hospital next door, Tish. So Bellevue is the psychiatric hospital. Yes. Yes. Notorious, right? If you don't really witness people who are truly in that state, what we would call, like psychosis, you can pick up on things because you're making a diagnosis based on what's the DSM, which is like our psychiatric handbook, which is a collection of symptoms that if they meet these, this collection or meet criteria, then we call it that.
Starting point is 01:01:04 So I've even found when I'm, you know, working with someone who might be a therapist or a nurse practitioner that we don't see the symptoms the same way. I don't like to, you know, fluff myself here. But I'm also like, I really got to see it. Like Bellevue has Rikers, like Island. There's a unit in that hospital. seeing people who are truly, truly ill. So, no, like, people who
Starting point is 01:01:27 have postpartum psychosis, from what I've witnessed, they're bizarre. They are muttering to themselves. They're part of when someone is psychotic, if they have that experience, they're not really taking good care of themselves. That's the disorganization. So, the hygiene might
Starting point is 01:01:43 be down. They may be even, like, styling themselves kind of oddly. Why don't they take the baby away during those times? You do. You should. And not family members. I'm talking about Yes. Doctors. Like the baby needs to go until she's...
Starting point is 01:01:56 Well, the doctor has to know what's happening too, though. Doctor has to know it. Also, the states, you know, the state that you are in, their mental health hygiene laws really set the stage for whether or not they can involuntarily admit you. Like I said, New York is pretty strong on... I mean, we were admitting people coming in with schizophrenia because they weren't taking care of themselves, and that helps the community.
Starting point is 01:02:19 But also, we get them treated. And then we move them down and sort of... of the level of care to ideally not continue to live on the streets with like severe mental illness. But if you're in like Texas, you know, I don't know their laws. It might be a little bit harder for the psychiatrist to actually have the authority to involuntarily admit you. They may not have enough units. So this is also a bit of like an advocacy issue too. Right. In New York, I mean, you're getting admitted without a doubt. You're getting admitted that baby is going to have to be with family until we treat you because it's a risk.
Starting point is 01:02:50 you could kill that you could kill your baby in other states again I don't know what they have going on but you'll find that it's state dependent gotcha yeah it's interesting right because even with that case
Starting point is 01:03:06 and everything you're saying like they said she did ask for help like they said she asked for help she had a lot of contact with mental health providers before you know she did what she did there are kids did she did she do it yeah she did it right yes she did she did it yeah what does that
Starting point is 01:03:20 teach us about the difference between having access to care and actually receiving the right care? Great question. So this goes to quality, right? The quality of care. So even when I'm like running my private practice, that's a part of the language I communicate is that I'm not just your doctor treating you. You're getting quality care, which goes back to the training. Like, again, I picked NYU because I knew I would see everything and that would make me more confident in my diagnostic skills and then knowing how to treat. So this is also the sort of unfortunate, ugly side of mental health treatment in this country, which I think is evolving.
Starting point is 01:03:58 I'm glad we're talking about it. I'm glad you've been spearheading, making this something that our community really focuses on. But it's just going to depend on what you get, right? You might sit across from someone who, where they train, they never saw someone come in with schizophrenia. So they're really relying on the handbook, right? They may have never seen a woman come in with postpartum psychosis. When you see it, you know it. They may have never seen someone come in with bipolar disorder.
Starting point is 01:04:21 So it's harder to call it. They also might not feel comfortable to take away your rights or to say, like, we're going to hospitalize you. So the difference, unfortunately, is where people train, their comfort level in the medication, you know, if you've got a lot of medication going on, that's usually not ideal for my perspective. That's kind of a red flag. Like, what are we targeting?
Starting point is 01:04:44 Right. Patients shouldn't be on multiple medications. They should have closer follow. up. So there's not really a standardized way of treatment because also in the U.S., I don't want to sound like I'm bashing nurse practitioner because I know they're going to be in my comments later, but the training is just so limited, right? And I've worked with people. I'm like, why would you prescribe that for this? And it just tells me that they don't have enough experience, and you get to, you get to kind of do your thing. My last question, what do you wish the Lindsay Clancy story had
Starting point is 01:05:18 taught America before it became this courtroom story. Well, again, I think keeping it really simple, I would have hoped that it would have started more conversations around properly supporting families, mothers, fathers, thinking about the role for community.
Starting point is 01:05:39 I think, again, it just should be more of the discussion nationally about how we're going to properly make sure people have what they need. Doctors, I do need, you know, you to do a, do you know make sure people are on the right medication and push for them to get admitted i push mine like okay if you aren't if you aren't getting better let me tell you the hospital i'm missing you to thank you dr jess dr jessica clemens man i would tell them to follow you
Starting point is 01:06:03 but you know you can i'm okay i'm there all right i want to get back in okay what is it is it still ask dr jess well we appreciate you for joining us thank you so much and you'll join us more. You vanished for our life. Like you jumped in. I've been trying to get done to jump in. Did you vanish?
Starting point is 01:06:20 On your, from you took it intentionally took the time away. No, she vanished. Yeah. But you said from us like it was just
Starting point is 01:06:25 breakfast club. I've been trying to get her at the Mental Wealth Expo for a year. I'm like, now I'm thinking like this would be a great year for her just to do the whole
Starting point is 01:06:32 panel by herself. I'm down. Word? Yes. Okay. I'm down. I'm back out here. She said I'm back out here.
Starting point is 01:06:38 My children, my children are a bit older. They can tolerate being away from mom. I got to shout them out. I know y'all are watching. Y'all better be on your best behavior. But I want to because I see this as needed.
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Starting point is 01:10:33 The latest with Lauren LaRosa. Because you particularly are bringing the energy to mainstream radio, the black radio. That sources trust. Did you hear that exclusive? Lauren, I'm the home. brother that knows a little bit about everything and everything. She'd be having the latest talking. You ask the question that need to be answered.
Starting point is 01:10:50 On the breakfast club. If little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you. L.L. Coobay. Talk to me. All right, so we've been talking about legends this morning. And speaking of legends, it is being reported or was announced that Judge Judy, a legend in her own right. Speaking of thick, them pictures be real? No.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Judge Judy. I ain't ever seen any person. AI is really the trip. That's before, A.I. She didn't pick them way before you. Because I'm like, her right now when you see her, she's, no, she's not thick. She's like, sure?
Starting point is 01:11:18 They had Judge Judy with a BBL online. Like Judge Judy had like, body. Nah, that wasn't no BBL. It's all natural right there. I think it was fair. Let me look. She, what, like 75 or something like that?
Starting point is 01:11:28 Well, what I mean? Nothing. I'm just saying. Look at it. Well, yeah, she's retired after 30 years. She's passing a gavel on down to her son. And, yeah, she's going to be, she says that she, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:40 she still wants her energy to be put out there, but she wants to do her. other things. I wouldn't even want to do that if I was her son. Because Judge Judy, I mean, I don't know his personality. Has he been doing anything? Has he been on these judge shows?
Starting point is 01:11:52 There's nothing like Judge Judy. I remember Judge Judy used to have Gia's mom and mother-law in the Choco. Like, that was her show. They'll do. Like her show. Like, she would sit there for hours and we would watch Judge Judy.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Like, he has his-ch-ch-o. So he has his own show. It's called Adams Law. Yeah, he's been an attorney for more than 25 years. So he's also been on, he's been on a few shows, but yeah, he has a new series. Adams Law. It premieres on, it premieres the day. Yep, it's coming out through CBS.
Starting point is 01:12:20 I would figure out how I could use that name, like Judge Judy's son or something like that, because I don't know. Son of Judy. Son of Judy sounds like a soap opera. Yeah, I never heard of Adams Law. Well, anyway, but yeah, she's taking a step back. I mean, we've been watching her forever, so, you know. God bless her.
Starting point is 01:12:36 She deserves it. Yes. Now, speaking of Legends, I want to go back. I know we were talking about Jay Z this morning, and I am really still excited about last night. Because you met Jayzy and Beyonce. You're never going to fail. Not only did I meet them,
Starting point is 01:12:48 at the after party, y'all, you know I love to do electric slide. As soon as I heard the song, I got up and ran up, and I didn't expect Jayze and Beyonce. Homecoming. Homecoming, Beyonce. Jayze and Beyonce was doing the electric slide. They danced all night long, and I mean, like, had a good time.
Starting point is 01:13:02 That's what couples in love do. No, but, like, big celebrities be in there and be, like, cute for the party. They, like, had a good time. You realize they're humans. Yes, but y'all know what I'm talking about. Two black-ass humans. Y'all know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:13:13 But you hang out with some people or be around them, even if at a distance and they're there, but they ain't really having a good time. They were having a good time. Couples in love were going to dance. They're going to enjoy themselves. They were, okay, all of that. All of that.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Now, I want to play this audio that we have exclusively from Bronco Grinding from last night. Jay-Z opened up the premiere when we were at the opera. I thought you was in there working. I thought you was in there taking it. I was about to fight you. No. I took my phone out one second to not to record just to check what was happening in the world. And Sholomein was like, get off your phone.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Be in the moment. I put it away. That's right. Yeah, let's take a listen to Jay-Z as he opened up his premiere last night. About this piece that Rick and I created. It's been an extraordinary year. It's Jay-Z-30. I want to thank all you guys to come to the concert
Starting point is 01:13:55 and travel all around the world. We didn't create this piece to come out at this time. We were just curious to have this conversation around music and writing. We didn't know what we would do with it. It was just an idea that we discussed. Rick and I. I think what makes it really special is that, you know, the love that we have of music.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Rick was super curious about the world that a lot of us come from. So it took it in places that I don't think it normally would have went. It's super fascinating. I mean, if I do say it's on myself. I hope you guys enjoy it. Thank you guys for this beautiful 30-year journey. Look forward to what's next. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:14:37 And to answer the question, we watched two episodes last. night you watch episode one and three so again on september 18 two episodes will drop and then they'll drop on fridays after that but also i want to shout out angie martinez too when we first talked about this documentary we mentioned that it would be fired to see her involved in some way last night she was the voice of god in the theater which was like fired at here in new york let's take a listen to angie yeah it is the voice of god again angri martinas ladies and gentlemen welcome to the met opera It is our distinct honor to welcome to the stage, The incomparable, Mr. Sean, J. Z. Carter.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Yeah, she was seated like right behind us and then right behind her where Jay Z, Beyonce, on the way and I saw DJ Callet. He is skinny. Salute to Cali. Cali really has lost a lot of women. I told him that last night. I said, man, I ain't going to find. I thought this was just for the gram.
Starting point is 01:15:32 If I was him, I wouldn't have spoke to you. You'd be so mean. I'm not mean, man. Jokes are not mean, okay? Just saying. They are the way people receive. He was so nice. He was so nice to me.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Caller's always nice. That was a nice guy. He's always been a nice guy. I felt so bad. But he really had lost a lot of ways. He has. Fat Joe walked up to him. I was walking to the seat.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Fat Joe walked up and was like, what's up? Skinny. I'm like, oh, they greet each other like that now because I've lost away. But yeah, shout out to Cissor too. Saw Cissin the after party. Did y'all know that Cizzo went to Delt State?
Starting point is 01:16:04 I didn't know that. I didn't know that. If I had told y'all that here, y'all would have told me I was lying. But Cizzo was right there when I said it. and she was able to confirm it. No, no. You know what?
Starting point is 01:16:12 I am going to say nothing. No. No. I didn't mean to. But you do. Nothing. Shout of the gunner, too. I saw him last night as well.
Starting point is 01:16:20 But. Good morning. The Cizzer. Good morning. Yeah, good morning. You especially say good morning. Say good morning. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:16:28 That's right. I'm going to close bars for Cizzer. All right. Hey, Cizzer. I mean, look. I love you, Cizzer. I was going to say you can't take me nowhere. But last night, I proved that you can.
Starting point is 01:16:38 We had a good time. But I will say this. I think it's very, very, very dope. Seeing Jay Zia where he came from. Like, I started in the industry, and I got a chance to see Jay start and him, you know, struggling get records played and people not believe,
Starting point is 01:16:50 and then seeing the world believe. And I used to, you know, sit up in Rockefeller Records and just pretty much just wait for an album, sitting in Lenny S&G's office and see Hove and just see all the work that he actually put in and to see it 30 years later and to see people still receiving it and still love it and still idolize it.
Starting point is 01:17:06 And him still working in it is really, really dope. such nice, good people. After all of that. Like, Hove and Beyonce would be outside. Like, you would see them out in a club, and they were always so humble. Even though they are multi-platinum artists and billionaires, they still speak.
Starting point is 01:17:23 The biggest thing that last night, all I was thinking about was how people say, your character will take you places that sometimes even your talent is. No, no, no, no. Your talent will take you where your character can't sustain you. Well, same. So when you meet individuals like that, you see why they've been on top of their game for so long.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Literally. And why blessings just flow. Like when I say just great, nice humans, like, and just having a really good time, like, enjoying life. They'll say we're glazing, but it's the truth. I don't care. And if you ever see Hope, like, he'll sit down and talk to you for, for, like, it's not like, he's not going to say, okay, I got to go like, he's going to won you.
Starting point is 01:17:58 No. He'll have conversations with you. And it's crazy because you're like, bro, you got to do this for all these people, but he has no problem doing it. Yeah. Now, Beyonce, they'll still for him. You'll be like, I don't enough's enough. But for holes.
Starting point is 01:18:08 No, she, like, when I was walking it, she walks up to you. Yes. And she'll, like, makes you feel welcome. Says her name like you don't know her name? I didn't even speak back. I just held my hand out. Stop settling. I text the group chat instantly, y'all.
Starting point is 01:18:21 I just met Beyonce. If you can't celebrate other people's success, you'll never have any success of your own. And I will never downplay the inspiration that Jay-Z has provided me throughout my life. Okay. All right, never. And we should never downplay the inspiration that Jay-Z has provided a whole generation.
Starting point is 01:18:37 I'm going to keep telling y'all that over and over and over again. And once again, you should hope to get to a point the way you have something to celebrate after 30 years. You should pray for that. Like, you want to get money for three years or 30. I just need to think this logically through. All of you people out there be like, oh, see you old blah, blah, you would you rather get money for three years or 30. You want something to celebrate 30 years from now. Like you think you think about it, right?
Starting point is 01:19:06 To celebrate five is amazing. To celebrate 10 is difficult. To celebrate 15 is always impossible. We're going on 16. Like that's almost impossible. How many, you know, not to glaze ourselves, but how many radio shows have gone this long? Glazing yourself is crazy.
Starting point is 01:19:18 Yeah. I don't even like that big hole in my head. I'm going to dog. You know, hold on. That's right. That's right. That's right. You need to be nice to people too,
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Starting point is 01:19:47 Now that was the latest with Lauren Shalerman who you were giving that donkey too. Man, for after the hour, uh, salute to all my Nigerians out there. Okay. Let's talk stereotypes. Oh boy. And scamming. Oh boy. But I got y'all this morning, Nigeria. Don't even worry about it, okay?
Starting point is 01:19:59 But there's six Nigerian men who need to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with them. We'll get to it next. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Tellah! Maybe. It's time for.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Donkey of the day. There's a bunch of donkeys out here in these. Scott's crazy. I'm going to make donkey of the day. It really caught me off guard. We live a life where we bite our tongue based off who we made a thing. We never would say anything. Salamay, give it to him.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Give it to him. You are a donkey. That is why Sholamane is here. Some donkey todays just saw themselves. On the Breakfast Club. Okay, Charlemagne, who we're giving donkey of the day to today? Well, donkey today for Monday, September 14th, goes to six Nigerian men who were extradited from South Africa to the United States for allegedly being involved in a romance scam that
Starting point is 01:20:43 targeted more than 100 women and stole millions of dollars. I'm not even going to sit here and act like I can pronounce these brothers' names, but let's go to SABC News for the report, please. The six Nigerian nationals who are suspects in a multi-million-rand online romance scam have arrived at the Cape Town International Airport for their extradition to the United States. They are allegedly linked to the Nigerian cybercrimes syndicate, the Black Hawks, and face charges of money laundering and wire fraud. The Hawks say they initially arrested eight suspects in 2021,
Starting point is 01:21:18 with one being granted bail of 210,000 rand, while another was extradited to the United States in 2024. This followed cooperation between the Hawks, Interpol, the FBI, and the U.S. Secret Service. Remember that the crime scene is online. So there had to be proper investigation and proper money trail to be traced back to individual suspects so that we are able to make a case that is tangible to stand before court. Jesus Christ, you ain't say their names either. So now I got to attempt. I just say their first names.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Perry Franklin, Osirimin, Collins, Musa, and Torres Sahu. And last name, Osajid. Osage, Otagah, and Otter. Definitely not right, but go ahead. Anyway, they are accused. They haven't been convicted, so we'll let the court handle that part. But I want to discuss this morning stereotypes, okay? Because I saw this story.
Starting point is 01:22:14 My first thought was my Nigerian brothers, why are y'all reinforcing this stereotype? You know the stereotype I'm talking about, okay? There are people on this planet who, when they heard young Miami ass, where all the scamming ass and words at, the first place they thought about is Nigeria, okay? I was born in 1978, and Nigeria. have been fighting the scamma stereotype in America for as long as I can remember.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Okay, it started with those Nigerian Prince emails. You know, remember those you get, hello, my dear. I have inherited $14 million and I need your assistance, okay? That's what started a lot of this. And I don't like it because I love Nigerians. Okay, Nigeria has over 200 million people. Some of the smartest, most educated, most successful people I've ever met are from Nigeria. Dropping a clues box from Nigeria, damn it.
Starting point is 01:22:59 You got doctors, you got lawyers, you got engineers, you got business, As you can look at what Nigerian culture is doing around the world right now. You know, the Afro beaches everywhere. You got Burnaboy. We just was playing Tim's, okay? Nigeria has spent years showing the world that there's so much more to that country than the stereotypes people have about it. And then here come these six individuals doing romance scams, allegedly.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Okay, do you understand how much that has to piss off other Nigerians? Somewhere this morning, there is a Nigerian man sending a completely legitimate business email, and somebody is looking at that email. rubbing their chin like hmm I don't know okay some Nigerian brother is on a dating app right now trying to genuinely meet somebody and the woman is nervous waiting to be asked for money but that's how stereotypes work okay one person does something and somehow everybody who looks like them comes from where they're they're from gets thrown into it don't become somebody else's confirmation bias okay people already got ignorant ideas about certain groups and they just wait
Starting point is 01:24:03 for something to happen that makes them feel like they're right okay they don't care about the millions of Nigerians who wake up every morning and go to work raise their families and don't scam nobody they're gonna see this story and say see I told you all them scamming ass Negroes Carisha was talking about her from Nigeria I told you no okay we're talking about six Nigerians six individuals okay and guys if you know people already have an unfair stereotype about your community why would you go out there and allegedly become the stereotype.
Starting point is 01:24:35 That's what I don't understand. And I know some people don't like that argument because they'll say, why should I have to represent my whole race? Why should Nigerians have to represent all Nigerians? You're right. You shouldn't. That's an unfair burden.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Okay, white people don't have to do that. When Bernie Madoff stole billions of dollars, nobody said, man, we got to keep an eye on all these white people in their Ponzi schemes. No, we said Bernie Madoff was a crook. Okay, one man. We didn't make millions of people answer for him, but black people.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Okay, my brothers, my sister. from all over the globe. You know damn well. That's not how it works for us. Okay, people shouldn't stereotype Nigerians because of what these six men allegedly did, but people will. And that's why these allegations are true, you know, these brothers got to suffer the consequences.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Okay, these brothers didn't just hurt the women they allegedly scams. They made life a little more annoying for some innocent Nigerians somewhere who already has to deal with this stereotype. And I have to say, the actual scam itself is nasty too. Oh, because Rome,
Starting point is 01:25:33 No man scammers aren't you stealing money. They're studying people's loneliness. Okay. That's what makes this so foul. You're finding somebody who wants companionship and you're figuring out exactly what they need to hear. Good morning, beautiful. Did you eat today? I have joluff.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Then three months later, baby, I'm having a little trouble access in my bank account. Sir, you don't need a girlfriend. Okay, you need a loan officer. And what really gets me is the amount of work that allegedly goes into these scams. If you have enough discipline to talk to somebody every day, enough patience to gain their trust, enough people skills to make them fall in love with you, enough business sense to allegedly move millions of dollars around,
Starting point is 01:26:11 then you clearly have the skill and talent to do something legitimate. You could have been putting all of that energy into actually doing something legitimate, but no, you want a scam. But back to the moral of the story, there's already an ugly stereotype attached to Nigerians. and these six men allegedly decided to become somebody's evidence for it. Okay, you shouldn't have to live your life trying to prove stereotypes wrong,
Starting point is 01:26:37 but you're damn sure shouldn't be working over time to prove them right. Please give these six alleged romance scammers from Nigeria the biggest he-ha. I don't get it. How you say their names? I don't know. Don't do that to her. His accident changed and everything. I don't even know why because that wasn't even the Nigerian accent.
Starting point is 01:26:58 I don't know what you're doing. I don't know what that was. I have no idea. Well, thank you for that donkey today. Now, when we come back, Kristen and Montel Jordan will be joining us. They have a new children's book, Shiloh and the Not So Scary Girl Above His Bed. Damn! A book about overcoming fear with faith.
Starting point is 01:27:15 All right. We're going to talk to them next. Why did you do that? There was no reason to say, damn. It's a children's book. I just feel like saying damn all morning. Yeah, I just made no sense. This is dope for me from last night.
Starting point is 01:27:24 Damn. All right. My cowboys lost. Damn. That was a good one. That was a good one. And everything feels like I need a damn this morning. I ain't here for travel.
Starting point is 01:27:31 Y'all check on traffic. I don't know. Trabb. Damn. I don't know. All right. It's breakfast club. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:27:36 Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jeterlarious. Sholomey and God. We are the breakfast club. Lauren Lowe's here as well. We got some special guests in the buildings. Yes, indeed.
Starting point is 01:27:45 We have Montel and his wife, Christian Jordan. Welcome. What's up? Christine. I'm sorry. Kristen. Sorry. She is a Christian.
Starting point is 01:27:53 I am. How y'all feel? We felt great. Man, we are so good. Yeah. New children's book Shiloh and the scary girl above his bed. The not so scary girl above his bed. Talk us about this book.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Yeah, this actually started with my son when he was three years old. He was afraid of the monster that lived under his bed. And the crazy part, I was like, Lord, we got to fix this. Because he would show up on my doorstep at my door every single night. I was like, okay, you got to sleep in your own bed, bud. But he was so afraid of this monster. And I was like, okay. And so one night when I was putting him to bed, I said, baby, what if?
Starting point is 01:28:28 the monster that's under the bed is more afraid of you than you are of him and what if he wants to be your friend and he was like huh I said I assure you that he's way more afraid of you than you are of him he was like
Starting point is 01:28:41 okay and he decided he was sleeping his bed and I was like okay this is good we can do this where did that instinct come from because I do that with bugs like when my little girls
Starting point is 01:28:51 mad at the ants I'd be like you were way big bigger than the man's scared right well you know the crazy thing is I think one of the I think one of the things we do is parents that is, we don't know what we're doing. But the concept of it is, is that we will say, oh, that's not scary. But the truth is, when we were kids, we were afraid of that too.
Starting point is 01:29:06 But when we lean into it and say, hey, what if, and it's the wonder, right, and to ask them the questions. And once they are able to think about it and articulate how they feel, it's like, oh, wait a minute, you're right. I'm way bigger than that bug. I'm way bigger than whatever it is that I'm afraid of. Yeah, it's flipping fear on its side because I think we believe that unattended fear. as a child can become trauma and anxiety and worry
Starting point is 01:29:33 oppression yeah and even as marriage people that that help couples in marriage we found that a lot of their fears go all the way back to their childhood to things about staying or fighting or being afraid of this absolutely you know isolation
Starting point is 01:29:49 all those different things you know it's so crazy because we literally sit across on couples all the time and we're like so what is going on well I'm afraid to stay. I'm afraid to go. I'm afraid I picked the wrong one. It's like, good night. And when we thought about that, we were like, where does that come from? And it comes to when you have childhood fears, us as parents saying, oh, you don't have to be afraid of that. But the truth is, unattended fear becomes anxiety, becomes oppression, becomes depression, becomes not knowing
Starting point is 01:30:17 what to do next. And so we got to teach kids how to be brave. I love it because it's about perspective, right? Because it's like, you know, it's not about removing your child's fear, but just teaching them another way to look at them. I don't know when you're not traumatizing your kid, right? I don't want to traumatize the kids so much where they're super duper scared, but I don't want to coddle them too much where everything falls back and I got a nine-year-old sleeping in between mom and dad, you know what I mean? So I don't know when it's not going too far.
Starting point is 01:30:43 Well, the truth of the matter is, is that we need to lean in. It's asking more questions and listening. A lot of times we're so quick to tell them what they're supposed to think or what they're supposed to feel. And the truth is, is when you ask them the questions, they'll tell you what they're really afraid of. Like for us, we have five kids, five grandkids. We got, we got a lot of
Starting point is 01:31:03 experience. So, and the crazy part of that is, is that when we lean in and ask, why are you afraid to go to? We have my youngest daughter right now, went to high school. Like three days before school, she starts acting a fool. I'm like, what's wrong with you? And she was like,
Starting point is 01:31:19 you know what, mom, I'm afraid to go to school. I was like, why? I was like, you go to a school that you love. It's an art school. She's like, What if I don't make friends in ninth grade? So what that does and what that tells me is that every kid has fears, right? And so rather than say, oh, you're going to make friends. I said, you know what?
Starting point is 01:31:38 What about that is scary to you? She goes, what if they don't like me? I said, you already know them. I said, and here's the truth. You're already accepted. You're already amazing. Whoever God has for you to be your friend, they're going to be awesome. So lean into, I don't need a whole bunch of friends.
Starting point is 01:31:56 what if I just make one? And so as we start to talk it out, she realizes like, I can relax. It's going to be all right. But it's really just dialoguing with them. I'm somebody who deals with anxiety. And one thing I've learned, and I want to know what y'all think about this.
Starting point is 01:32:09 Do we actively teach children that fear is weakness when fear is actually information? That's correct. That's exactly right. And I think it's the leaning in that allows the information to inform your brain and your heart how to react. It's not that it's not scary.
Starting point is 01:32:23 It's that if you ask the right questions, you can proceed with the bravery and the courage. It's so crazy. We're believers. And one of the things that always shocks me is that the scriptures is a lot of times it says, be bold and courageous. The only reason it would say that is what you're facing is scary. Because otherwise, there's no reason to say that, right?
Starting point is 01:32:46 So when we're dealing with giants in our lives, whatever that may look like, we have to do it afraid. But how do we do it afraid? We lean in and we do hard things. It's not that we're dealing. don't do the things that we need to do, but it's learning how to do it the right way and doing it afraid and saying, guess what, it's okay to be afraid, but I know that you'll do this and do it well. Yeah, I agree. And from that standpoint, when we, like I said, if you can catch it early,
Starting point is 01:33:12 if you can get to the kids before fear grabs a stranglehold on them and to teach them, and like you said, some fear is not unfound. Like, you need to be afraid of that. I need to put fear in you in certain instances, you know, when you want to put your fingers in the socket or whatever. No, don't, don't do that. I need you to be afraid of what will happen, not only if you do that, but what I will do to you if I catch you trying to do that. Yeah. And so I think that it is important for us to be able to give a healthy measure of what fear is,
Starting point is 01:33:43 but also to equip people to understand. And I say people, even our little people, we need them to understand that fear is not something, you know, to shy away from, but to be able to. but it faces and face it and recognize what it is because you know I think the more you run from your fear or whatever you know it'll chase you your entire lifetime absolutely now the baby boy who's the whole the story is about yes how old is he now now he's 22 22 yeah he's about to turn at more house okay does he get his royalties in publishing I was no it's okay I was okay he's the whole franchise so okay guess what at the end of the day
Starting point is 01:34:24 all of this is going to be theirs, right? So we leave legacy and inheritance to our children's children's children. So it's going to be good. And it's funny because we had him at the release party and it was so funny. The kids were like, he's so big. I said, yes, look, and he made it. And he's brave. They're like, I can do this.
Starting point is 01:34:44 I was like, yes. Is he still scared under the bed? Just the case? No, not in the bed. It's the lineman come across the line. How would this book teach a child to distinguish between fear that's protecting them and fear that's limiting them? So the idea of it is that when we are putting our kids to bed, right? So this is a story really designed to talk about the things that they were afraid of in that day.
Starting point is 01:35:10 And so what we want to do is invite the parents to have conversations about what the child has dealt with during the day. And so we want them to understand when we have fear, it's okay to be fearful. but what can you do about it? We can invite faith into that and say, God made you brave. You can do hard things. You can be bold. You can be courageous.
Starting point is 01:35:30 And really, the truth is, as much of the negative words that we've said, if we say the positive and we show them, because they don't come with fears. They don't, just like we talked about our one-year-old granddaughter, like she has zero fear, zero inhibitions.
Starting point is 01:35:45 She will walk right off the side of the pool, right into the water. And so it's one of those things is that now we're teaching them how to have conversations to pay attention to what's going on inside them and note that this doesn't have to be this way. What's something your children taught you about God that church never could? That a love of a child is one of the most innocent and beautiful things that you could ever steward. I don't think we talk about that in church very much, but it is one of the
Starting point is 01:36:16 greatest gifts that you get is to see this person that you created. But you get to navigate them through. The good, the bad, the ugly, whatever that is. And that I get to be a good steward over this kid. But what I pour in, I get out. When I was a kid, my mom used to tell me, you can't plant peas and get corn. You can't put the negativity and all the stuff that we get from the world. We have to start with what we put in there.
Starting point is 01:36:43 It's going to come out eventually. They go through rough patches. They go through rough times. But the truth is they always come back and it always comes around. For me, let me just jump in there real quick, that I learned the most valuable lesson that I've ever learned about ministry that church could not teach me. And this is when we had first brought our daughter Samantha home and she was three days old and she wasn't eating. And at the time, we didn't know what was going on. And then literally, baby started turning blue or whatever.
Starting point is 01:37:12 And we didn't know what to do. And so we end up rushing to the hospital or whatever. And when we're there, this is a three-day old baby who had. eating, we're trying to breastfeed and everything, and she just would not, would not eat. And so when we get to the hospital, they basically tell us, hey, we're going to need to do a spinal tap. As a father, them coming to me to say, hey, we need to do this to your daughter for her to live. And I'm thinking to myself, they're coming to me for the answer. My wife is looking at me. Everybody's looking to me to be like, what do you, what do you do? And I had to trust one,
Starting point is 01:37:47 okay well God you gave her to us and so she was yours before she was ours and even I don't want to make this decision I have to trust that I'm going to put her in the hands of the people that are saying they know more than what I know and so the closest I have ever tried to imagine what it is to give up your child for somebody else what God did for us through through Jesus that was what I felt like it gave me the closest understanding of what it is to actually be willing to sacrifice a life that you love so much, but trusting God in that space. And so I've never wanted to have to do that again,
Starting point is 01:38:26 but from that standpoint, just understanding I'm not God, but if I could get a glimpse of what he felt like to give up his child, to me, that's what I got out of that. I always told parents to double check and make sure triple check. So something similar happened last year at Christmas time,
Starting point is 01:38:42 they told me my daughter wouldn't need brain surgery. Something didn't sit right with me. Yeah. And we took her out of New Jersey and I took it to hospital in New York. Yeah. And when the doctor's seen her in New York, he came, he looked at the charts, he started laughing, right? So I didn't find it funny. I'm like, what's so funny?
Starting point is 01:38:59 Yeah, and I'm serious. What the fuck so funny? I'm not. Because I'm telling you exactly. We understand. I'm not right now what you're telling me that. So we were sitting in, me and my wife's in and baby's in. The baby is wrapped up.
Starting point is 01:39:11 And he was like, those doctors told you in Jersey that she needed a brain surgery. I'm like, yeah, he starts laughing. Ha, ha, ha. I'm like, what's so funny? She was like she doesn't need brain surgery. It was like there's nothing on this chart that tells me she needs brain surgery. What she does need is that she needs to clean out her, you know, everything that's in her nose. Oh, yeah, she's up to it, her sinuses.
Starting point is 01:39:29 But she has a sinus infection, no brain surgery. Wow. So if we would have left her there, they probably would have started with the brain surgery. I messed her up. And I still didn't believe the doctors. I'm like, two doctors told me she needed this. Yeah. They did the sinus thing.
Starting point is 01:39:45 and within hours, face cleared up. Yeah. It was the craziest thing. And it just made me think, like when it comes to that, you got to ask, you got a double check,
Starting point is 01:39:55 you got a triple check, you got to call. I mean, I call Charlemagne, because they told me the best children's hospital was in South Carolina. Remember I called you?
Starting point is 01:40:00 I'm like, give me that number. Can you get this? Like, it was bad. I get it. Yeah, yeah. Because you're so scared. But I know you guys
Starting point is 01:40:06 have to go, and before you go, I want to talk about September is prostate cancer awareness month. Yes. I want to talk about that before you go. And why it's so important
Starting point is 01:40:14 and why people should get checking how they should get checked. You beat it twice. So break it down to the brothers out there listening. All right, two-time cancer survivor. Last time I was here last year was prostate cancer awareness month. And I was headed into a treatment. I had my prostate removed in November of 2024. And then cancer came back in 2025.
Starting point is 01:40:34 And so at that time, I then went from not having a prostate to now having proton therapy, which was 37 rounds of this radiation treatment. or whatever. And I can say several different things. One, I am my PSA, which is prostate-specific antigen level, which is characterized by a blood test now. You don't have to do the finger checks. My PSA is sub-0.01, which is undetectable, meaning I'm cancer-free. So thank God for that. One in every eight men will be diagnosed with prostate cancer in their lifetime. One at every six will be African-American and less likely to survive it because of late diagnosis. late diagnosis.
Starting point is 01:41:13 They usually don't get diagnosed until stage four. Yeah. And so then now you have less choices. How often do you get checked for prostate? Is it yearly when you do you check? No, I don't get checked for prostate anymore because I don't have a prostate. How often should somebody get checked? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Well, right now, well, how often should somebody get checked is normally once a year, when your physicals, once you reach a certain age for African American men, you want to start going probably a little early. They say as early as 35 to 40. It's in blood. It's just in your blood now. You just have to ask for the test. But you have to ask for the test because when you go just for a regular physical, they're not going to check your PSA.
Starting point is 01:41:47 That's correct. They're not. That's crazy. They're trying to do a lot of. So when you go to the doctor and they give blood, they be like everything's clear. Everything. Right. You automatically think that they checked everything.
Starting point is 01:41:56 No, you have to ask. You have to ask. You have to ask. And it's super important because the thing is, the insurance companies, it costs like $75, right, for them to do. So that's why they don't want everybody doing it, right? But the truth is, is it pales in comparison. They're trying to pass legislation. now and do some different things to get it like mandatory like when a woman like they want you to have mammograms or x y and zy
Starting point is 01:42:17 they're starting to want men to have PSA but they haven't passed that legislation yet hopefully we're somewhere at the forefront of that but ultimately the goal is uh now i go every four months to go back and just have blood check to whatever uh and then at some point when i'm clear you know it'll be six months and then a year and then i think after like 10 years or whatever then you don't have to to do that anymore. So, you have to leave? Yeah. Well, how can they get the book? Anywhere you can possibly buy a book?
Starting point is 01:42:46 Okay. You get it. Amazon, books a million. We like Amazon, but Barnes and Noble. Books a million. Wherever you can get a book. Oh my God. Both of my kids got membership at Books a Million.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Yay. You're about to go get Shaila. Yeah. Or pick it up if you're out and about. Thank you for joining us so much. Shil and the not so scary girl above his bed. That's right. Christian and Martel Jordan.
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Starting point is 01:47:07 Yes. Hey. All right. So over the weekend, we've been following this, just kind of talking about things as they, as they happen a bit. Little dirt, little dirt over the weekend. It was announced that he was found not guilty in the murder for hire case that has happened in L.A. So he is now exonerated in this murder for hire case because the jury found him not guilty on all five of the charges. And only took the three days to deliberate to return this verdict and his alleged involvement in that 2022. shooting in LA that ended up in Cuando Rondo's cousin being killed. So yeah. But he's still locked up though, right? Yeah, he's still locked up because he has another case that he's fighting. There's another Rico case that he's finding that he's going to have to deal with over in Chicago.
Starting point is 01:47:51 But yeah, I mean, this is a big thing to walk away from. I saw a lot of people pointing to you know, Brian Steele as, you know, on the defense team and yeah, Drew Finland as well on the defense team. But I honestly, I didn't know
Starting point is 01:48:07 what was going to happen, but I don't know if I knew it would be like he just walked away from all of those charges. I mean, like I said before, I never understood what they had on, Dirk, because when you put these guys on the stand that, you know, are confessing to all of these different crimes that they committed and they're trying to save their own ass, they can point the finger at anybody. Like, I never understood the whole cooperating witness thing. Unless you got some, unless you got evidence, and then you got people that are, you know, I guess, validating that evidence. evidence, I never understood the whole cooperating witness thing. You can just put somebody on the stand and they can just accuse you all the type of stuff. Yeah, it's not telling the truth because if they
Starting point is 01:48:45 cooperate, they get less time. But like, yeah, if you're talking about life and you could possibly get some numbers where you can come home, you're going to say anything you have to to say to get home. Yeah, but I will say sometimes that works because the defense isn't as good as showing you that these people are not
Starting point is 01:49:01 trustworthy. So that legal team that Dirk has set up, I don't care who sent them, who did not send them, they the way that they, yes. I ain't heard y'all give no praises to Allah yet because I will tell you this I can't wait to see what God has in store for Little Dirk because
Starting point is 01:49:16 before Dirk went in, he clearly was trying to change his life, clearly. Like, you know, his album was called Almost Healed. You know, he was going to therapy and things of that nature. Like, he was given, he had submitted his will to God. Like, so I can't wait to see what the second act is after this. Well, real quick, before we stop
Starting point is 01:49:32 talking about Little Dirk, I do want to mention Amber Grimes sat down with his mom the Little Dirk's mom on If You Knew Better, which is her podcast. It's on the Black Effect podcast network. And it was so sad to hear. But Little Dirk's mom was talking about kind of who she blamed for all that Dirk recently went through. Let's take a listen. I feel like everything that has happened is my fault.
Starting point is 01:49:53 I blame myself for my son getting killed and I blame myself for my son being locked up. I know for a fact it's my fault because if I will listen to my mom, then on what to do and how to do it, how to move, how to go finish school, how to get your career going so that you can get about the neighborhood that we live in, which is 72220. And I kept putting it off like, oh, I got plenty of time to do that. If I would have listened like I was supposed to, we would have been somewhere totally different. They would have been raised different. And I felt like everything would have been better.
Starting point is 01:50:29 Right now, I'm just going through the motions right now to try to get everything back on track. Do you believe there's still time for you to do that? Yes. It's never too late. I've been asked my children for forgiveness. And they're like, for what? What did you do? They think the world of me.
Starting point is 01:50:48 And I never understood why. That's powerful. Yeah. And again, I was if you knew better, as a conversation with Amber Grimes. And her name is Ms. Shonda Woodard. That's Dirk's mom.
Starting point is 01:50:58 So she was talking about the past enough, his brother D thing as well, too. But yeah. It's understandable, right? Because as parents, you want to make sure that you put your kids in the best predicament, and the best situation,
Starting point is 01:51:06 whatever that may be. Yeah. And sometimes we work hard to do it. And I understand why she would feel that way. Like, I'm sure she feels like if I would have did it this way, I would have got out of that part of Chicago. I would have been able to raise them in this part.
Starting point is 01:51:17 And maybe they wouldn't have went down a lifestyle that they did. But you also can't blame yourself, right? Because you don't have, you know, you don't have a... You're doing the best you can with what you have. Match ball and see the future. But she's essentially saying she wish she would have broke the cycle.
Starting point is 01:51:31 But I think one of the most important things that she said was she should have listened to the adults that came before her. If she had listened to her mom, then she would have made, you know, better choices and she would have got out there in the environment, then things might have been different for her kids. So it's a lot of different lessons to be learned than that. But one of the biggest takeaways is listen to the people who came before you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:49 Okay. Yeah. And I know it was emotional for her and her family and for Dirk. I saw some of the reporters in the courtroom mentioned at how emotional it was for them. So, yes. All right, y'all. Now, that was the latest. It is brought to you by Top Dog Law.
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Starting point is 01:52:16 the guy. We are the breakfast club. I want to salute to my little baby girls again. Yes. Brooklyn and London. Fire. If you didn't listen to earlier, they made the New York City's kids dancers. So they are going to be dancing at the home game. So if you head to some of the next games, you probably
Starting point is 01:52:32 will see them. Hopefully you'll see them. I'm super duper excited. There's 26 kids to make the team, but they divide them off to 13 to 13. Because they are kids and they are working and they are getting paid. They can only work a certain amount of hours a week. So they will be working. So they will be getting their first checks and I'm excited for them. So they understand how important this is and how they got to be on time,
Starting point is 01:52:52 how they got to be with kids. They have special appearances. It's pretty dope. So salute again to the Nick City kids' dancers. Salute to Latoya, who was the coach. Salute to Jen. They are the choreographers of this thing And they really, really, really love the kids
Starting point is 01:53:07 So I just want to say thank you I'm happy they making some money Again My daughter was a cheerleader And boy, they don't make no money Them cheerleading competitions Like being a chair dad You're just putting out, putting out
Starting point is 01:53:16 To the fact that they're in dance And they already making some money Oh my god Yeah now they're making money They get paid for rehearsing They get paid for performing They get paid for special appearances They get paid for all that
Starting point is 01:53:27 And they're super duper excited so I know that's right And v you congratulations That got to feel good as a parent Absolutely I just love watching them. I just love watching them do something that they really want to do. But you work hard to get your babies into things.
Starting point is 01:53:38 You never know what's going to stick and what's going to happen. So I know that that feels good to watch and see. Absolutely. And also we got a salute to Dr. Jess for joining us this morning. Salute to Dr. Jessica Clemens. Very important conversation we had today. Speaking of babies.
Starting point is 01:53:50 Yes, very important conversation we had today about postpartum psychosis. You know, Dr. Jessica Clemens is a board certified psychiatrist. And, you know, that is our specialty, you know, dealing with pregnant women. and maternal health. So salute to her, you know, maternal mental health, you know. So salute to Dr. Jessica Clemens and make sure you go check out that full conversation on Netflix. And also salute to Kristen and Montel Jordan for joining us. They stopped through earlier to talk about their new children's book,
Starting point is 01:54:21 Shiloh and the Not So Scarey Girl Above His Bed, A Book About Overcoming Fear with Faith. So salute to them for joining us to join us. Why would you point in to me? You just sent me something and I was on a flight with him yesterday. Oh, okay. You know what I want to salute to? I want to salute to Mr. Abdul. Sout to you, brother.
Starting point is 01:54:39 That is a scissors father. You know, every time I run into scissors parents, you know, Miss Audrey and Mr. Abdul, they're always very pleasant people, man. And I saw Mr. Abdul last night, got to spend some time with him and have a conversation. So salute to him. Older people love you. I'm a nice human. I know you are.
Starting point is 01:54:58 You just don't act like it all the time, but you are. You are. Does any human act like it? You're fine by me. I'm consistent. What the auntie said? You're fine by me. Get over there and do that little games.
Starting point is 01:55:06 No, they're, you're so handsome. No, they, I don't know what it is. It's the cataracts. It's the cataracts.
Starting point is 01:55:13 Because I'm 90, these rom-com fine, okay? How do you say it to him? He says, how you say, I am? Like, usually people say,
Starting point is 01:55:18 you know, it's the cataracts, I promise you. Every time somebody be like, they'd be like the eyes. I'd be like, they think you're women.
Starting point is 01:55:24 The eyebrows. When we come back, positive notice of breakfast before me. Envy just described me and got bricked up. He's like, no, it's the thick thigh. You see, they think he's a woman. You see how he just described?
Starting point is 01:55:34 Why are you looking up on me like that? Time to get up out of here. You got a positive note. Yes, first I want to tell everybody, though, you know my sixth annual Mental Wealth Expo is happening on World Mental Health Day at the Joel and Diane Bloom Wellness and Event Center in Newark, New Jersey. It is a completely free event. Salute to the good brother, Dr. J. Barnett.
Starting point is 01:55:52 He will be there. The good sister, Debbie Brown. She's hosting it along with me, and she's curating the whole event. event man. Dr. Rita Walker, the author, the unapologetic guy, the black mental health, she's going to be there. The good brother Kierre Gaines is going to be there. Elliot Connie is going to be there. Salute to Michelle
Starting point is 01:56:08 Williams. She's back joining us this year. You know, the last couple of years, she's been on Broadway where she's going to be there with us at the Mental Wealth Expo. And just right now, I am letting everybody know that Dr. Julius Thomas will be there
Starting point is 01:56:23 along with Dr. Ayanla Van Zant. And We are doing a healing the heart and rewiring the brain presentation with Dr. Julius Thomas and Dr. Ayanne Levantz. So Saturday, October 10th, doors open at 1030 a.m. The Joelle and Diane Bloom Wellness and Event Center in Newark, New Jersey. It is a free event, completely free and open to all ages. Just go to Mental Wealthexpo.com, the RSVP to be there. Now, the positive note is simply this.
Starting point is 01:56:52 Abundance often arrives when desperation leaves, okay, to less you chase from a place of lack, the more freely life begins to unfold. Not because the universe rewards indifference, but because contentment frees you to recognize opportunities you once overlooked. When your heart is no longer grasping, your hands are finally open to receive. Have a great day. Breakfast club, bitches!
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