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Episode Date: September 14, 2026Today on The Breakfast Club, Dr. Jessica Clemons discusses mental health advocacy, postpartum depression and psychosis, parenthood, and the Lindsay Clancy trial. Montell and Kristin Jordan also talk a...bout their new children’s book, helping kids face their fears, parenting, and parental guilt. Plus, Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to Nigerian nationals extradited over online love scams and money laundering. Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Jess is out. What's up, Lauren?
Good morning.
Salomeyne Nicod.
Peace to the planet. It's Monday.
How y'all feel out there?
I feel blessed black and highly favored.
Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners.
Good morning.
Good morning.
What's up?
Lauren, how you feel?
I'll see you out in about Fashion Week.
Yes, I am tired, but I am here.
I had a great week, great weekend.
A great night last night.
Took me outside.
Yeah, we was in these streets last night.
That's why I got on shades right now.
Why?
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
I feel like my eyes might be puffy or something.
Oh,
is it?
No,
you got to hold them regular.
Yeah,
you look fine.
You still feel like last night.
Last night was fun.
Yeah,
we had a good time last night.
What did you guys do last night?
We went to Jay-Z's J-N-8,
J-Z-N-8 documentary premiere in New York.
So I ended my,
I was say I ended my fashion week with that,
but fashion week's still going.
Yeah, still going on.
Yeah, still going on.
It really started Thursday,
but people just do their own thing.
That's crazy, well?
I was at a Vizu.
Slupt to a Vizu, they had a fashion
You ain't have as much fun as us
Huh?
You ain't have as much fun as us
I sure did
I think I had more fun
You know you didn't
I sure did
I promise you
I did
I promise you I did
I promise you I did
I promise you
She gonna report it in a little bit
What my weekend was like
But uh
Slued everybody in the Visu
They had a fast week event
What is a Vizu?
The jeans
These are these is a Vizu
They had a block party
And I pulled up to them last night
And I was in Detroit yesterday
And salute to everybody
At Detroit at the sandbox
and I got a chance to watch my Giants play last night.
The Giants played last night?
Not really.
They didn't really play.
It was no competition.
We'll talk about it a little bit.
The football team didn't start?
Yeah, it started.
It started.
There was no competition, though.
That's crazy.
I didn't know what started.
Did my team get the memo?
No, they didn't get the memo.
They didn't know what was going on last night.
We'll talk about that in front page.
We'll tell me about the Hove.
So what happened at the Hove event last night?
We're going to get into it in the Lamemo.
but it was exciting. I got to meet
Jay Z and Beyonce. You did? Yes. That's crazy.
They introduced themselves. Yes, that's crazy. So humble. So humble.
Jay Z was like, I don't think we met before. I'm Jay. I was like,
duh, yeah. Like, I didn't even know how to respond to that like,
like, duh. I'm la la la Lauren. No, I knew my name, but I'm like, why you're telling me
your name? Like, I like, that's all the time. Beyonce does that all the time.
That's what people of respect and honor and high integrity do. Very much so. It was a great
night, great room, but just a good time.
But the conversation and that documentary, when it
drops and people get to watch it, it's going to
be real... It comes out
on the... We didn't see it in full
either, by the way. We didn't, and we only saw it. I believe
it was just a full episode. You only saw a part
of it. What's that just an episode? I don't
even know if it was a full episode, but we saw a part
of the documentary. That's crazy. I didn't even think about
that. That might have been a whole episode. It felt like
it was great, though. Yeah, because it was like an hour long.
But I thought, for whatever reason, I was thinking
that they was just going to do one song in episode, but
no, they do like three or four songs in
episodes. And it releases in full on the 18th.
But you're going to break down what it's about. Yeah, we're going to break down what
it's about and we're going to get into kind of, you know,
what we got to watch and some of the things.
It's about what all of this should be about, and that's
culture. Okay. Music and culture.
You know what I'm saying? Like, when we think about what we do, it's really
music and it's the intersectionality of music and, you know,
sometimes, well, a lot of times fashion, you know, but yes,
it's about culture. Okay.
It's 30 years of a prolific career.
I would never, ever in my life downplayed an inspiration that somebody like
JZ provides for a human like me.
That's right.
Never ever.
All right.
All right.
All right.
I'm still sweating.
I'm like, why you're sweating?
He's sweating.
He just got it.
I didn't even drink.
It was just, everything was hot last night.
You didn't think everything was hot?
It was humid.
It was just enjoying it.
It was humid outside last night.
It was humid outside for a little bit.
It was cool in the buildings and it was cool in the building, but it felt like
somebody turned the AC off so it was a little hot.
Then you start dancing.
You know what I mean?
But that was last thing.
Why you still wiping sweat?
Because I just ran up upstairs.
Okay.
That's the reason why?
I just ran up them two flights of stairs.
Well, let's get the show kind of.
And I had on a jacket when I walked in here.
I don't know why.
I don't know why.
Then I was jogging down the block to get here.
Let's get the show cracking.
Kristen Amato, Jordan, will be joining us.
They have a new children's book, Shiloh, and the Not So Scarey girl above his bed.
I thought it was under his bed.
It's above his bed.
I don't know why.
Yeah, not so scary.
Oh, no, no, no.
Above his bed because the monster is told from the perspective of the monster.
So the monsters under the bed.
And also, man, Dr. Jessica Clemens will be joining us today.
Dr. Jessica Clemens is a board certified.
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Nas's birthday. Queens get the money. Can we get some Nas on this morning? Happy born day,
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Let's start with some football.
Seriously, the NFL started?
The Lions beat the Saints 31-30.
Shult to everybody in Detroit. What up, Doe.
The Ravens beat the Colts. The Jets.
Wow. Jets beat the Titans.
The Titans beat the Titans.
The Steelers beat the Falcons.
Vikings beat the Packers. Cardinals beat the charges.
Eagles beat the commanders. Raiders beat the dolphins.
The Bears squashed the Panthers.
The Bills will beat the Texans.
The Bengals beat the Buccaneers.
Oh, yeah.
And them Giants.
Where you at, Trav, I see you all in the game, all in the video.
The Giants beat the Cowboys, 28 to 20.
I didn't even know the NFL season started, Joe.
I was watching college football.
Sloat to South Carolina State.
They beat Virginia State 66 to 0.
Okay, USC, South Carolina Gamecocks, they busted ass on Saturday as well.
Cowboys look bad last night.
I just want to put that out there.
The Cowboys played.
I don't believe this, y'all.
Giants are going to the Super Bowl.
Didn't it just start?
I don't care.
The Cowboys got smacked.
They got squash.
Now slow down.
The score was 28 to 20.
I thought you to watch the game.
I didn't, but I heard.
Somebody told me.
Now you heard.
The score was 28 to 20.
I was out in about last night.
But I was, the game was the score of 28 to 20.
You guys.
You got busted ass.
We didn't do all that.
We didn't bust ass.
Oh, y'all going to lose.
You shut down.
You know my squad.
You know what we got.
There's no way I said that Friday.
There's no way I said that Friday because I didn't even know the season was starting Sunday.
Good morning.
Good morning.
M.
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M.B.
How y'all doing this morning?
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All right, let's get right.
Me and me.
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey.
Okay.
Let's get right into this.
So President Trump this morning, you guys, is doubling down on those $5,000 checks we
told you about last week.
He's promising those checks who every American adult if Republicans keep control.
of Congress. Now, Trump, he first announced this idea last week, and on Sunday, he was asked,
this was yesterday when he was in Ireland, he was asked whether Congress would have to
approve the money and whether the government could actually afford it. Let's listen.
If the Republicans win, as I said, it's $5,000 of all adults in the country, and we can easily
handle that because we're taking in so much money. We've never done better. The Democrats can't
make that pledge because it'll all go to hell right away. The Democrats get in, you'll go into a
When we get in, we will continue this incredible situation.
I mean, we have the strongest, we've ever been.
We have trillions of dollars coming into the country.
And the 5,000 is going to everybody.
I made that pledge.
I always keep my pledge.
This is what I understand, right?
Like, you know, Republicans currently control both chambers of the U.S. Congress.
Why don't somebody just ask them a simple question?
How come you just don't give people the checks now?
Right now.
Right now.
Why do you just don't do it right now?
Like, I don't understand why the media is even playing this game with him.
Somebody's had to ask them that already, right?
I thought of it because right now, there's already Republicans and both in the Senate and in the House and the presidency.
And they hold majorities in both of them in the House and Senate.
You cut the check now.
Exactly.
But it's important to say that critics are calling this a campaign bribe and attempt to buy votes and they are telling voters not to fall for it.
And so we will continue to follow that.
But Congress would also have to vote on something like that.
the president does not have the power to just give everyone a $5,000 check.
And this morning, there's a major shakeup coming to SNAP benefits, and it's supposed to happen at the end of September.
So this is all part of President Trump's one big, beautiful bill.
So there are already work requirements in place, which have made it harder for people to keep their SNAP benefits, not to mention the administrative hurdles signing up now takes.
Those extra steps have led people, you know, just being kicked off the program.
And now what's new this morning is the question of who is going to bear the cost of SNAP, the administrative costs.
So right now, states pay half.
But starting October 1st, they'll pay 75 percent, and that could lead to more people being kicked off because that's a bigger burden for states to bear.
So right now it's 50-50.
Starting October 1st, states will have to take on more of that cost and pay 75 percent.
Food access groups, they're calling for Congress to push this back.
They say states need more time to figure out how they're going to come up with this extra funding so that people do not get kicked off of their SNAP benefits.
So we will continue to watch that.
And lastly, you may have noticed that gas prices keep creeping back up.
The national average.
They are high.
Yes.
They have definitely gone way back up.
So just 13 cents in the last week, about 30 cents this month.
So we're at about $4.30.
But the diesel may be the bigger story.
It is now the highest it's ever been topping $6 a gallon nationwide.
The average is $6.
In California, it's like $8.30 for the first time.
And that matters because even if you don't drive diesel, you don't drive.
Truckers do in those trucks.
They move your food.
They move your clothes.
Just about anything you buy.
And so here's what everyday people are saying about the gas prices.
This is crazy out here.
You worked so hard to make ends meet and take care of your family.
And next to you know, gas them went up overnight.
I just wish the gas price.
prices were a lot cheaper so we could all do things that are extra, you know, like groceries.
It's now $48 to do my, to do a half a tank. Isn't that awful? That's a crime.
And your president got the nerve to tell y'all we'll go into a depression if Dems get back in power in the midterms.
The truth of the matter is we might, though, because we are already on that trajectory because of Donald Trump and all the foolish policies he's implemented that have us in this current debacle that we're in.
All right.
Yeah. All right. We're coming up at seven, and we're learning more about the mistakes.
serious death of
Tasia Fortune.
Please say they have arrested
a suspect, but we'll tell you
why some people
are having a hard time
believing that it was actually
the suspect.
We'll get into it.
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Take the book.
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Breakfast Club.
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Hello, who's this?
Damien from Connecticut.
Damien from Connecticut.
What are?
Damon, get it off your chest.
Yeah, well, envy.
How we feel in the Giants?
One last night?
I feel great.
How you feel, Damon?
Oh, I feel great.
You know, it's good to beat them boys week one.
Yo, shut the hell.
That didn't even happen.
You're making up stuff.
We looked good yesterday, too, man.
I told everybody.
We're going to be pretty good.
Our O-line just need to be a little better,
but we look pretty good last night.
Oh, Del Lough, thanks.
Odell didn't really go down.
Oh, okay, I thought he looked good
because you always thought he was cute.
No, he didn't get too much burn last night.
Bye.
That's what you got for us there?
Bye.
Yeah, I love you, man.
Yeah, love him too.
Bye.
He'll love her.
He'll love her.
I'm not hurt.
I didn't even know the game happened last night.
Yes, you did.
Hello, who's this?
Hi, good morning.
Good morning.
Is Jess here?
No, she took off.
She had, I think, like, six, seven shows this weekend.
in Baltimore, so I'm sure she was supposed to take off, but she took off.
It's not, but she did take off. Okay.
Hi, DJ and Z. Hi, Charleneen. I watch all every morning.
Good morning. Peace. How are you?
I'm doing okay. I don't want to give something off my chest.
Go ahead, Mama.
So, I lost one of my pups about two months ago.
Oh.
And my daughter was the one that witnessed it. I didn't even see it, and she's only six.
And, you know, the last couple of months, she's just insane.
Like, Mom, you know, I want another dog.
And I was like, okay, well, I started searching.
And, you know, I did, like, Facebook Marketplace and everything.
The same way I got my other dog.
And I purchased so many things, and I've never had an issue.
Well, I found a dog, and it was so cute, and I showed it to her.
And we drove about an hour, and I paid a deposit.
And when we got there, they blocked me.
And it wasn't even about the money.
It was more so just my daughter.
just crying and crying and saying why do people lie?
Why did they block you?
Yeah, yeah, what happened?
Why didn't block you?
They didn't want to pay.
I think it was just a scam.
They didn't really have the dog.
They just really took my deposit.
Oh, man.
You said the dog was coming from where?
Well, I live in Louisiana, and so they were meeting me closer to Laplace.
So I drove me and my daughter about an hour to meet them.
And it was so hard
Just watching her
Just so upset
That she was like
Why would people do this?
What kind of dog
What kind of dog?
It was a small little
Brown
Kikup T-Poodle
It was the cutest thing
It was a teacup
One of small ones
Yeah
And
It's just
You know
People are just so mean
And
And I told
I said
Look we're gonna find you on
We're gonna find somebody
That's honest
And I said
Next time
You know
We're gonna get
a dog.
Why don't you go to the
local shelter
and rescue one of those dogs?
I didn't know people buy dogs
on Facebook marketplace,
but you know,
think about going to the shelter
and getting one of those dogs
that actually need a home
and, you know,
I don't want to say close to death,
but you know,
go adopt a dog.
No.
I wanted to be, you know,
a little cute small,
like where I did have.
I had a small pomeraine.
I think she just liked dogs.
All the small dogs.
Tiny,
you know,
she could be having the bed with her
and things like that.
She just has a visualization of what she wants.
Can I ask you a question?
I know this might be a little too traumatic,
but how did she witness the dog passing?
Like, what happened?
Well, we still went about an acre land,
but whenever she was leaving with my grandmother,
the dog ran out the house behind them
and ran into the street.
Damn!
So it was like right in front of her.
So when I heard her screaming,
that's when I came out and...
Man.
Yeah.
I witnessed some of the...
Something like that when I was young, man.
My cousin, I only won't say his name,
but he had a little dog and that dog got loose
and ran off into the highway while we was at the bus
stop waiting on the bus and got hit by a car.
And the way he screamed and ran into the middle of the highway
and dropped to his knees was so sad.
You just never forget it.
Yes, it was sad.
I didn't see it, but what I am grateful for
that, you know, when Hazel did pass,
it only broke her neck, but it wasn't like flattered blood,
you know, I was crazy.
Now, come on now.
That was crazy.
Why would you say it like that now?
That would you mean only
a pocket snack?
That was horrible.
I'm so sorry for you stopped.
Thank you so much for calling it.
Listen, I hope that y'all find a dog, though.
I didn't know you buy dogs on Facebook marketplace.
If you all know anybody
or if anybody in the Louisiana area
that's so small dogs,
I would just like them to reach out via email or something.
Can I get my email?
Sure, go ahead.
It's Elisa
E-L-I-S-A-M-A-M-A-R-S-A-L-I-S at Yahoo.com
Lisa, I don't want you to think I'm laughing at you.
I don't want nobody that's watching to think I'm laughing.
No, no, because our board out bread is so stupid.
You're talking about, no, she can't go to the shelter
because the shelter only got pit bulls.
Like, the pit bulls are just so downtrodden.
I mean, I'm not.
They want to the shelter.
They got all the shelter.
Like, the pit bulls are just so wild.
Like, the pit bulls are.
It might.
He traumatized her.
Like, if you see a dog like near death,
he's probably, like, why are you doing?
Yeah, I didn't mean to say near death.
I just, I don't know what I'm trying to say.
Thank you, ma'am.
I'm just trying to say, the shelter is a good place to go get dogs.
A lot of these dogs need a home.
Okay, just think of these dogs as little tiny orphans.
All right.
A little four-legged orphans that need a home.
And that's why.
And that's why.
Annie was a puppy.
Right.
But that's why your mom asked you sometimes.
Don't ask, right?
Because he might not really want to know what happened to the dog.
You ain't have to ask that.
She said the dog passed away.
That's all you needed to know.
No, I did witness the dog.
I witnessed the dog get hit by a car before, man.
I'm going to tell you, my cousin.
And it's just the way he, it was his reaction, not the fact that the dog fell out.
I discovered my dog dead.
He looked to the sky and screamed this blood curdling screams.
And he ran out in the highway and dropped to his knees.
We were like, you're going to get hit next if you don't get up the road.
Oh, he was on his knees.
On his knees in the highway.
The highway, highway 17-8 in Moscow, North Carolina.
I'll never forget that as long as I live.
This Monday.
Get it off your chest.
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I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk.
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Everything with me is best.
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Yo, it's Q from Atlanta.
Q.
Q. What's up?
Q.
What's up?
Today's my birthday.
Holy shit.
I'm on the phone with y'all.
Happy morning.
Happy birthday, Q.
How old are you, young man?
Appreciate it.
I just turned 35 a day.
Okay.
Congratulations, young man.
Happy birthday, brother.
Hey, and I want to tell you that something.
Like, last year, my third grade best friend called in,
and I heard him on the radio on here and whatnot.
That was so dope.
What's her name?
No.
It was Mark, but I'm Q, and we went to school together.
Hold on.
Now, you said his name, you said her, but then you said Mark.
No, he said, he said my best friend from third grade.
He didn't say he or she.
Yeah.
I thought you said.
He never been Mark.
No, his name is Mark.
Because it can change.
He could have been marking third grade.
He could have been right.
He might be Michelle now.
Q is from Atlanta, so.
Nah, no, no, no.
But yeah, appreciate y'all.
Happy morning, King.
Appreciate it, appreciate it.
Have it good day.
Have some fun on this Monday, man.
Enjoy life.
Celebrate it.
Hello, who's this?
Hello.
Hey, good morning.
Who?
How are y'all doing?
What's Adele?
What's up, bro?
Yeah, I'm a little time in the gym right now.
I'm getting punished for him.
Just a show last night.
There you.
I'm on the show.
That's nasty, man.
You in the gym getting punished and putting on a show.
I got a big one of the pounds from last night.
He said he went to Jess's show last night, right?
Oh.
Yeah.
And so he up this night.
I wanted the show.
I wanted a show loves to Jess, man.
Speaking was so amazing.
She has a special way of making people so soon and known,
even though she talks to 1,000 of people.
And for some reason, she remembered me.
She said what's funny.
You know, you see the work that she puts behind the scenes
from how she shows up on the stage.
You can tell she putting those thousand hours of work to do what she does.
And she does so much by my heart to, uh, I want to say, say,
says because of how much worse she presents,
even when she has a family, children.
And also got to see both her, her husband and her baby father at the book sign.
It's pretty cool.
So that's what's all.
I'm looking for it.
I'm right.
Thank you, brother.
Hello, who's this?
Good morning.
This is Dee Dee Dee.
Hey, Dee.
He's Dee Dee.
I'm calling with some boldness behind my voice this morning.
Good morning, man. How are you feeling?
Good morning.
I'm doing fabulous. I'm calling from Chicago, and I just want to share my favorite Bible birth with y'all.
It's Mark 1124, and it says, therefore I say unto you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe you have received it, and it shall be yours.
And it shall be yours. Yes, ma'am.
Listen, I also would love to, I also would like to boldly ask if Lauren Larosa would be my mentor.
My mentor.
Lawrence doesn't need a mentor.
First of all, I have mentors.
How old are you, ma'am?
I would love to be her mentee.
Her mentee.
How old are you?
Oh, my, could you never escalating for age?
I'm in my mid-30.
Okay.
I don't think that matters.
I don't think age matters when it comes to mentorship.
What are you looking for mentorship?
It's her wisdom and it's her connection.
And, you know, I'm really trying to get into boys' work.
And, you know, it doesn't have to be a long-standing mentorship.
I know she's busy.
But I would just really love to get, you know,
pour into her and let her know
that she's amazing and I know that
she would be an amazing mentor as well
how much she pay you to call in and say this this morning
thank you not one time
not one time we can take your email
I've never done voice work
but I mean I guess it's radio voice work
because absolutely it's media and all that
yeah yeah okay
and that what you want to do you want to be in media
she wants to do voice work I absolutely
do yeah
Chalaman yes I mean if you need some voice
of work for a black
privilege publishing listen
I'm here.
I know we always need people to read audio books.
That's a very interesting.
And I would listen.
If I could offer a critique,
listen,
the commercials,
I am an avid Apple podcast listener
and the commercials that y'all have there,
that guy with the sinus situation,
listen,
I would love to replace him.
The sign of situation.
What guy with a sign of situation?
Oh, no.
You have a guy that does ads and he,
yeah.
On what?
On the black effect?
Apple podcast
Apple podcast
I gotta go listen
Yeah all right
But hold on we're gonna put you a hole
Yeah
Cause somebody called me
The other day
And told me about
I guess the wildfires
That they say it's still going on
I guess that
They've been playing the same commercials
And they're saying that the weather's never right
Well that's a production issue
Yeah because somebody
Somebody tweeted me one day
And was like
It is not whatever degrees I said it was
It was like it is not that degrees
Can they update it?
I was like
Listen that's the producers in the program
But nobody cares about
Micromanaging radio stations anymore
they just don't give it there
Nope
Get it off your chest
800 585151
D D D's on line too
By the way guys
D's what
D D D D's the lady
That just called
That you just spoke to
Oh see you could hit me
With a good D's nuts
In your mouth joke just now
That wasn't even thinking about it
I didn't drink it
I was on water boy
He's naturally thinking about those in his mouth
That was on water
Yeah
That was water
The variable or something
No nothing
See it's hard for me to sleep
On Sunday nights
Anyway for whatever reason
It's been hard for me
To sleep on Sunday nights
For years
So I didn't
have a problem being out last night.
You know what time we left last night?
Like 12?
12 something, yeah.
I got home like one something.
Yeah, because like 145
when I was laying in a bit.
Well, the latest for Lauren's up next.
What we're talking about?
Yeah, we're going to get into our night last night
and we got a big announcement
that Envy's going to help me do.
I'm not going to help me.
We'll talk about it in the latest.
Is really how you want to reveal your pregnancy?
Start playing with me.
Wow.
Congrats.
No, I had a bunch of...
Who's the father?
I drank last night.
First of all, don't ever...
Damn, that was crazy.
Yes.
That was crazy.
Don't play.
Not long, I would never see it.
Yes, you would.
Yes, you would.
Yes, you would.
In real life, you would.
Yes, 100% would.
No, I am not pregnant.
We have another announcement.
It involves the next.
All right.
We'll talk about it.
We'll get to it next.
Y'all are pissing me off.
That was wild.
I don't know why he would do that.
You've heard the chaos.
Now you can see it.
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So last night got, well, first of all, good morning again.
Good morning.
Yes.
Good morning, L.L. Cubei.
Lauren Larosa.
Oh, Lord.
So last night, if y'all wondering why Charlemagne is sitting in here with these glasses on,
if you can't hear him, you will hear Uncle.
Still, whatever he was.
hide from last night because you didn't drink.
It's all dopamine. No alcohol,
no drugs, no edible. This is just
all dopamine. So we were out last
night. We went to Jay-Z's
Jay-Z-N-8 documentary premiere
here, world premiere, here
in New York City. Now this
went down, first of all, it was just beautiful
from start to finish. Like,
it went down at the Metropolitan Opera House
here in New York and you walk
in, not even inside. As soon as
you walked in the outside, like area,
right? It was set up
and there was like a live orchestra
playing all of Jay Z's music.
It was everybody in suits.
That was an orchestra?
Yes, they had a lot.
You see, you was,
once we got in there,
you know Charlemagne,
he'd say hi to everybody.
You can't go nowhere with Charlemagne.
Once you got through the red carpet part,
yes, you walked in.
There was an orchestra in the middle that was set up.
We also came in toward the end of it.
It was kind of breaking down
and we were heading inside at the same time too.
But yeah, so black suits,
everybody dressed to the nine,
bars set up everywhere.
Like, people walking around with the Ace of State.
Bottles, yes.
From the beginning of the event, Envy.
Right?
So we finally are on our way in.
I bought the bathroom lines be so long at Rock Nation events, by the way.
I did have to wait in the bathroom line twice.
Really?
Yes.
I mean, yes.
I drink water liquor.
Yeah.
Well, I didn't do that bad last night.
I didn't do that bad for you is bad for anybody.
Okay.
Well, anyway.
I was monitoring her as well.
He was.
All my way in, I'm walking in.
And I turned to, I didn't even get to fully turn.
Jay's right there.
He's like, I don't know if we've ever met.
I'm Jay.
I was like, I want to say, yeah, you are.
That's exactly what she did, too.
Thank God, Angela Rye was standing next to me, and she was like, she made a joke of it.
She was like, yeah, she didn't know.
She had no idea.
Because I was, I can't believe he just, because I was going to go, hey, I'm Lauren.
And he goes, hey, I'm Jay.
Like, yes, you are.
Like him and I met Beyonce as well last night, too, at the after event that we went to, some of the nicest people ever, ever, ever.
But yeah, it was a great event.
So we got inside of the theater and we sat down and watched.
the, I don't even know if it was like a full
episode, but it was a good enough
portion of some of the documentary
that Jay-Z has coming
on September 18th with Rick Rubin. So what's the
documentary about? That's the only thing I'm unclear about.
Was that a full episode
and we watched one episode? Or was it
piece together? I don't know.
I can't answer that question right now. And I should
have asked last night, but I think I was just so in the moment.
But I'll be able to answer it shortly.
But, so the documentary is
about Jayzee's music and career. You know, he's
celebrating 30 years, Reasonable Doubt,
But this documentary is eight total episodes.
The first one's going to, the first two were going to drop on September 18th.
And they use his songs to break down his journey, not even just like as an artist,
but like from when he was nine years old up into coming into, you know, like a man and a father and a husband.
And they literally really break down the music.
Like you're watching the words on screen, him reacting to it in real time.
Some of the songs he hadn't heard since he put out.
So like you see the raw emotion.
Wow.
Well, 4-44, he said he hardly ever listens to.
By the way, that was just.
even uncomfortable to watch in the room.
Beyonce and Jay Z sitting right behind you as it's happening.
You know, Envy.
That's the song where he apologized for you.
Don't say you know.
Don't throw that on me.
I don't want to know.
We know.
I don't act like we don't.
I'm not going to be.
Neither am I.
I'm just saying we know how that feels to be in this.
I'm just thinking like I could never watch this in front of people.
This is something I might, I might do.
Like, you know, you'll write about it in a book, but then people go.
But watch that in front of people.
The song, the song, Shalameen is talking about guys is,
is the song where Jay-Z is talking about
when Blue Ivy and their children grow up
and he has to explain
some of the different things that have went down
in their relationship and how that's going to impact
him in their family as a man and just those conversations.
But yeah, it was
a great night. Thanks for the invite, Sharr.
Listen, I will never ever
downplay the inspiration that
Jay-Z has provided in my life. I would never downplay
the inspiration that Jay-Z has provided a whole
generation. Okay, and this generation calls
it glazing. I call it celebrating
excellence, and we should all hope,
that we do something
or have some type of career
that can be celebrated in 30 years
because we're celebrating 30 years
of reasonable doubt, 25 years of the blueprint
those things deserve
to be celebrated. That's right.
Yep. And I have some audio or
some video of Jay-Z on the Brown Girl
Grinding Instagram. Make sure you guys go check that out.
He actually welcomed us when we sat down in the theater.
But before we get out of here, I do want to make an
announcement. Speaking of New York,
the Knicks City Kids Dancers,
Now these are the official youth dance team for the New York Knicks.
They perform with the team.
Envy's daughters.
Two of Envy's daughters.
Yes, both of his daughters made the team.
Now, this is really, really competitive to do.
Over a thousand kids tried out.
They picked about 26 kids.
Evian, I know your daughter's been dancing for,
both of them have been dancing for about two years.
Yeah, very short amount of time, two and about two and a half years.
And out, out of all those kids that tried out, both of them made the team.
Yes.
So that's what I said.
We were celebrating all week.
Wow.
You got a bomb for them.
one time, which is
amazing. So they will be at
the home games dancing. So
I will probably be at every Knicks game
now. If I have to buy a ticket
or not, I will be there watching my babies there.
So I am super duper excited. I am so proud of them.
The fact that they... Big year for them and to be a part of that team.
Yes. And just just the, you know
what it is? It's the work. It's the effort. It's the fact
that they practice when nobody tells them
to. It's the fact that they push themselves to be better.
It's the fact that they're always online watching other
dancers and dance and the fact that dad is there and got a chance to see that this week
it was their first rehearsal so i got to see them dance with the other kids it's just it's just
dope man is that translating the dollars now i'm not saying it's a big gig it's a big it's what i'm talking
now we talk about it's a big so they get paid for rehearsals they get paid for actually
dancing on you know what i'm talking about they get money for so this is their first job right
so they're super duper excited this is a crazy first job yes and even think about it like that
yes my daughter was a cheer i'm a cheery
I'm here dad.
Ain't no money in chair.
All we do is spin, spin, spin.
How old is you?
Two.
One is 10, one is 13.
Wow.
And they're already making money off dance.
Congratulations, Envy.
So you gear in the family.
Like, that is a major accomplishment.
I know they're listening this morning
probably on their way to school.
I love you guys.
Congratulations.
I'm so proud, man.
You brought tears to my face
just watching them.
Because they just started two years ago.
You always cry every time they dance.
Every time I've seen them dance and I've watched him.
You're right.
You're father, man.
Proud father.
Yeah.
But it was a beautiful.
celebration of the things over the weekend, I'm sure.
It was great.
So, again, congratulations.
And salute to the New York Mix and the New York NICC City kids and the dances.
We appreciate you guys.
And I'm happy.
All right.
Now, when we come back, we got front page news.
Mimi will be joining us.
And then Dr. Jess will be joining us.
You know Dr. Jess.
She's been up here many of the times.
Ask Jess.
Yes.
And we're going to talk to in a little bit.
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Now let's start off with some quick sports.
Last night, the Lions beat the Saints.
The Ravens beat the Colts.
Jets beat the Titans, Steelers, beat the Falcons.
The Vikings beat the Packers.
Cardinals beat the Chargers.
Eagles beat the commanders, Raiders, beat the Dolphins, Bears,
beat the Panthers, bills, beat the Texans, the Jaguars,
the Bengals beat the Buccaneers.
And the Giants!
The New York Giants!
Beat the Cowboys 28-2-20.
You're putting a lot on this for no reason.
But you mean, you're going to the Super Bowl.
Yes, we go into the Super Bowl.
and the Calgary girls
No, you're not.
We're O and one, you're one and O.
Yes, we're undefeated right now.
The Giants are undefeated.
Nobody beat us.
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Y'all just got here.
So what?
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Hello, Mimi.
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Let's get into this Tasia Fortune story.
Have you guys heard about this arrest?
No, what happened?
Yeah, so there was an arrest made in the death of Tasia Fortune.
She was a 29-year-old black woman who was found hanging from the tree in Mississippi.
We talked about this probably a couple weeks ago.
Her body was found on August 3rd.
For weeks, there were questions about exactly what happened, how she died,
and now Mississippi State Medical Examiner, they have officially ruled her death a homoenix.
homicide. Police have arrested a suspect and charged him with murder. Jackson police,
they announced the arrest. Let's listen to that press conference. We secured two search warrants
and an arrest warrant for Jacques Ratliff, also known as Jacques. Mr. Ratliff was not at the location
when officers arrived. However, as our staff and team were returning to JPD headquarters,
they encountered Mr. Ratliff walking along Capitol Street. Officers took him into custody without any
incident. That arrest today
is an important development in this
investigation, but it is not the conclusion.
This case remains active
and additional arrest will be
pending as our investigators
continue to follow the evidence
wherever it leads.
That's horrible, man.
And it's sad that we keep hearing so much
about these lynchings that are happening.
It's like, and you don't even know the names.
Because you just hear every day,
every other day, it's like, oh, another person got found,
another person got found. I got found.
I don't even think I heard about the Tays of Fortune case.
If I did, I don't remember the name.
Yeah, I was going to ask you.
When did this happen?
This happened on August 3rd.
We talked about it here, but at the time, she was found behind a abandoned building.
And people were just trying to figure out, like, you know, what happened.
And there was also some speculation of who could have caused it.
And so now the police are saying that it was Jacques Rodcliffe.
But a lot of people online, they're not buying this as the full story because they're questioning
whether this one man who looks, you know, older was able to do such a thing, because I don't know if you guys remember when we spoke about it.
We said that she was so high up.
They had to have a fire truck ladder.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so they're questioning, you know, how one person was able to do that.
Now, the police chief just said in that soundbite, though, that they are looking for other suspects.
There will be more arrests coming forth.
So we'll just follow this to see what will continue to happen.
but they have not explained how they believe her body was placed in that tree.
And so a lot of people online are speculating, you know, he couldn't have done that alone.
Scary.
We will continue to follow that.
And now to a new twist in the Lindsay Clancy case and the growing backlash over the lone holdout juror and how he is being treated.
So remember the jury was 11 to 1.
11 jurors were prepared to find Clancy not criminally responsible for killing her three children.
one juror disagreed, forcing a mistrial.
But now we're learning something that we didn't know about that holdout juror,
that he was a black man in his 30s, the only black juror on the panel.
Now that came out during an interview with CBS this morning.
And Gail King, she was the one who actually broke this news.
Let's listen to the reaction that she had.
One person of color was a person of color, a woman or a man?
A man.
A man.
Is a holdout juror a person, a black man?
Yes.
A black man is a holdout juror?
Yes.
Well, I have to sit with that for just a second.
Lord knows I love me some Gail King, but I just need her to explain that reaction.
I don't understand why she reacted like that.
Like, what did him being a black man and holding out have to do with anything?
I'm shocked that it wasn't more jurors who didn't feel like how he felt.
Yeah, well, when you look at the makeup of the jury,
I think her first question was what the jury makeup looked like
and to find out that there was only one person of color
and it was a black man who was the holdout.
I think she was kind of just sitting in that for a second.
But I think the bigger story this morning is NBC in Boston.
They started digging into the jurors' personal life reporting his past domestic violence allegations.
When he was bringing order an eviction case that he had,
the station they did not release his name.
We still don't know his name.
His name is not public.
But critics are pointing out that jurors are supposed to have a privacy
and a protection.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, this morning, yeah, so them digging into his personal life, you know, and all that being investigated, they're wondering whether the 11 other jurors would be facing this kind of scrutiny if, you know, it was the other way.
So now that we find out that he's a black man, are we doing a little bit extra digging because, you know, he was the lone holdout who didn't go the other way, which the 11 other jurors went.
And he can't sue because they didn't put his name out there, right?
They didn't put his identity out there, so he can't sue.
No.
They didn't put his identity out.
out there, but they put all his business out there.
I mean, from arrest warrants to interviewing family members, everything.
Oh, interviewing family members, then yeah, then they clearly know who he is then,
which is sad.
Yeah, they know who he is.
They just haven't said the name out loud.
They've vilifying, they've vilifying him more than they've vilifying Lindsay Clancy.
That's right.
That is exactly what they're saying.
All right, y'all.
Well, it looks like that is the end of front page news.
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Okay.
Who will come out to Victor?
We will see.
Thank you, Mimi.
But listen, I want to keep this conversation going.
We have Dr. Jessica Clemens coming in.
Dr. Jessica Clemens is a board certified psychiatrist,
and this is what she does.
That's right.
So the conversations about postpartum psychosis,
and your mental health surrounding pregnancy.
She's the person to talk to.
So we're going to keep this conversation going when she comes back.
Great conversation.
We'll do when we come back.
So don't move.
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We got a special guest in the building.
Yes, indeed.
She's back, ladies and gentlemen, Dr. Jess.
Welcome back.
Feels good to be here.
Very important to say Dr. Jessica Clemens is a board certified psychiatrist.
Okay.
All right.
Graduate in Cornell, University.
medical college completed your residency training at NYU.
Yes.
At NYU, okay? Very important to say that.
Why?
I just want people to know that she really got her certification.
Oh, that's just been up here before.
I know, but you know.
Okay.
I want to reiterate to the people.
All right.
Well, how are you feeling, Dr. Des.
She's a real doctor.
I'm feeling great.
I'm glad you did that for me because I was going to try to find a way to bring that in.
Oh, my God.
Do y'all have to do that now?
On platform?
I really, so before the controversy online,
when people were talking about whether, you know, someone is a doctor or not.
Yeah.
I wouldn't think it's a thing.
But now I do think it's important.
People really need to know that the information they're getting from so-called doctors, you know, it's trusted.
It's better.
So, yeah, I feel like it's something that we do have to say.
Absolutely.
And the last thing is medical doctors, it's easy to look up whether or not we're truly who we say we are.
All you have to do is just take our name and the state we're licensed and you can see if the license is active.
not. It's, you know, it doesn't take much to show your degrees and things like that. They're
always on the wall behind me. Okay. Yeah. And I'm glad you're here because you're also a
reproductive psychiatrist. So you treat women with postpartum and we've been having a lot of
conversations about postpartum, especially because of the Lindsay Clancy situation. And I think
it's very important because we spend nine months talking about women being pregnant, but never talk
about what happens to the mother psychologically after. Absolutely. Yeah. This is a newer
area in psychiatry.
Mass general is
really leading in a lot of the research.
Yeah, we don't
talk about the hormonal effects,
whether it's pregnancy, delivery,
or even before. I take care of a lot of
women who talk about, wow,
every couple of weeks out of the month, before
my period starts, I'm just anxious
or depressed. But we
talk about that and we talk about treatment
options that might include therapy
or lifestyle modification, but
also medication.
But when I'm thinking about like postpartum, especially to your point with the case that we've all kind of watched, I kept a little distance from some of the details there.
But yeah, we're talking people are coming in depressed.
It affects their ability to bond with the baby, which then also has effects on the infant child, right?
If they're not properly bonding with their parent, the mother, that has, you know, some downstream effects.
But there could absolutely be a role for medication for some women.
It also could be a role for more support.
Making sure that you have someone there to cover the night shift.
I know personally that was just one of the hardest times after having a baby to be up all night
and just thinking about what that does to mood and irritability.
So it's an area of medicine that's starting to really take the front center now.
Well, let me just break down the Lindsay Clancy case for somebody that doesn't know.
She was a, she's a 36-year-old former labor and delivery nurse.
She strangled her three children, ages five, three, and eight months.
before attempting suicide by jumping out of a second story window.
She was not prosecuted on September 24th, 2026.
It was a mistrial.
The judge declared a mistrial after seven days of deliberation.
And this has been a big conversation of postpartum and all that.
I wanted to ask, when I seen your name on the sheet early this week, well, last night,
I called Charlemann.
I'm like, is that Dr. Jess?
Dr. Jess, because usually we don't see Dr. Jessica Clemens, right?
We just see Dr. Jess is coming.
And he was like, yeah, I was like, well, where has she been?
we haven't seen in a long time.
And she was like, well, she dealt with post-partum.
And I was like, wow.
I was like, well, break down what it is.
I've had six kids.
You know, I have six kids.
And thank God my wife didn't deal with it.
So what makes somebody deal with having a child, like Charlemais said, so excited.
Nine months you're excited to have this baby, a baby that you created, and you
deal with a nursery, and you build a crib, and the family's giving you gifts, and you can't wait,
and you're picking outfits to look like your outfits, and you get so excited.
And then you hear a lot of women say when the baby came, they didn't like the baby.
They didn't want them.
They didn't want the child next to them.
Some women would say hate the baby.
How do you get to that?
As a baby said this morning, our front page news person said she hated her son at first three years.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
So how do you get there?
Yeah.
So for me, just to make sure people are okay with part of what I've been focusing on, I may answer the question, is really building my private practice and trying to shift away from social media as a primary.
public, you know, space that I engage in. But how we get there. So during pregnancy, there's like
big shifts in hormones, you know, estrogen is high and that's why the hair is like hearing and the
skin is all full. And just, you know, just really people just look great when estrogen levels are
high. But after delivery, that starts to tail off pretty rapidly. And so for some people who are
more sensitive, that's the language we kind of use in medicine, meaning one woman,
may tolerate that estrogen drop off and another woman may not.
The one who's more sensitive, the one who doesn't, may begin to have signs of like postpartum
blues. In fact, 50 to 85% of women will experience that. That's not like depression where you're
down. You really don't want to get out of bed. You're feeling hopeless, maybe even suicidal.
It's more of like irritability. There might be some anxiety. You might be just a little like
frustrated, unable to connect, maybe some feelings towards the baby, not.
at all like postpartum psychosis which I'll go into but that usually gets better once mom is you
know properly she's got the nutrition back she feels supported she's focusing on rest a lot of what
I advise women who come in after delivering is like you got to sleep even if you have to stop
pumping or prioritizing trying to breastfeed like let's move on if it's not working for you
but again part of what happens is the change in estrogen levels affect some women and then the work
I mean it's hard taking care of a newborn especially when it's
the first. You have no idea. You're like, to your point, you're getting ready. You're creating
the moment. You're getting the room ready. Then the baby arrives. And now this baby has to be fed
24-7. The only communication is through tears. I mean, it's stressful. And then if a lot of women
do feel pressure to like breastfeed, to, you know, pump, that is around the clock, too, right?
You can't just stop because you need to sleep. If you don't, you'll stop producing milk.
So I think for some women, if they end up not being properly supported, that first couple of days when postpartum blues can show up, that can sort of start to set the stage for postpartum depression, anxiety.
I support a lot of women who talk about how overwhelmed they feel.
You know, they're worrying about this.
Do I have enough for that?
So it starts to play into how they feel about themselves and how they feel about their performance and then even the children.
It can be resentment that builds.
Like what separates like the normal baby blues from the postpartum depression and the psychosis and the OCD?
Like like like like help us understand the spectrum.
Yes.
Great question.
So we look at this as like a continuum.
Okay.
Some women before they became pregnant may have had a history of depression and anxiety already.
But postpartum, this continuum of blues, depression, and psychosis can happen in any, any woman.
Again, part of it is this like hormonal shift that some of it.
people are more sensitive to, but Blue shows up about two to four days into post-delivery,
and it levels off. And you're not depressed to the point where your mood is consistently down.
You're sad. Literally, you can say, I feel depressed. You're not dealing with a lot of sleep
issues. You're not sleeping great. You're caring for a baby, but you can fall asleep. If somebody
takes that baby, you're out, right? You can fall asleep. Postpartum depression would have the
opposite. You're having trouble falling to sleep. Your appetite's low, stuck to your mattress.
you're having a lot of thoughts of guilt,
you're not enjoying things,
you're hopeless,
and some women will develop suicidal thoughts.
That occurs maybe in the first couple of weeks.
Two to four weeks is when we look for that.
But this isn't the one that we're worried about the safety of the baby.
Postpartum psychosis is rare.
It happens in about one to two deliveries out of a thousand births.
So it's rare.
Most women are not going to experience postpartum psychosis.
But this is the one that was, I guess,
kind of at the forefront of this case,
which, you know, I don't really know if that's what it
it was, eight months is not really the window.
Postpartum psychosis we're seeing in the first couple of weeks, but really at four weeks,
we're not really expecting that to be there if it occurred.
And it is a emergency, right?
So the person will look disorganized.
They might have mood fluctuations, so they're really elevated.
They might be up all night, you know, talking and very just have all this energy or they
might look depressed.
They might be disorganized and like, what are you doing?
You're putting the remote in the, you know,
bridge, it just something seems odd.
But one of the hallmarks that's scary is if they start to communicate that they're hearing
things or they start to believe that something's going on with you with the baby,
they don't really want anyone with them.
This can put the infant and family at risk of infant side or, you know.
So it's an emergency in New York.
There are so many resources.
There's a mother and baby unit, I think, at Mount Sinai.
So it's not unusual if someone does present with this for them to get admitted.
You'd have to be admitted, treated with the antipsychotics, but they'll keep the baby in the hospital with you, but you're not the primary when caretaking because the risk is that if they're alone, maybe these command auditory hallucinations might, you know, tip them into acting on it.
But again, very rare.
It's an emergency.
Depression is probably a bit more common.
Blues is incredibly common, but that resolves.
What are your thoughts on paternity leave, right?
Because when I first heard about paternity leave, I laugh so loud.
I was like, what the hell is a man need to take off, right?
But now hearing what you're saying, I guess it's, it would be needed.
A support.
For support.
Absolutely.
I don't want to leave the men out.
Yeah, because.
I didn't take paternity, did you?
No.
No.
But I think things have developed since y'all that have had your children.
But like, you said you don't want to leave the men out.
You mean that in their mental space as well?
Or just the fact that to talk a bit about that?
Because I don't ever hear people talk about the men, like their side of it as well, too.
Yeah.
So the first point, yes, support is really why I think men should absolutely advocate for.
You don't want your partner, your spouse, whatever the situation is at home alone with all of the burden of care.
But I think we also don't really talk about the changes that happen to men.
This isn't like a hormonal conversation, but more or less just the big role that people are stepping into.
So if it was just the two of you, that's a very different lifestyle, very different dynamic.
now you might have someone who's like,
actually, I really do need you to take the baby when I, you know,
when you come home.
I don't need you to do your process to decompress.
So that can also take a toll on people.
Stress is one of the most notorious experience that people don't recognize,
but contributes to things like anxiety,
which is also going to have irritability in there.
You know, anxiety isn't just this like cute,
oh, I'm so worried, but people can be really edgy, snappy, right?
It also can bring up feelings of depression,
whether it's a depressive episode or just the low mood that comes with.
Maybe you're not connecting with your,
you know,
your partner anymore.
Maybe it's demanding on you too.
You worked all day.
You want to come home and decompress,
but now you have this baby that you have to take care of.
You're doing your wife's like this,
but you understand.
But it still affects you, right?
So paternity leave is important.
I wish in the U.S.
It was longer.
I think what,
it's like six weeks, maybe.
Not long enough.
that's still like a newborn.
That baby is so tiny and developing.
So I think if a man is on the fence about it,
you just need to take it.
Take the time, bond with the family,
be supportive, figure out the new role, right,
so that it's not really just one person
taking the lead on all the caretaking
because that does affect the relationship as well
and not pressuring also for sex.
That's just something I want to throw in there.
Say that again. Expound on that?
That seems like that's been, since you said it like that,
It seems like that's been a problem
and the issue with a lot of...
Because you're supposed to do six weeks after it, right?
People need a weight, right?
Yeah, so the body can heal.
But also just realizing that this woman,
her body doesn't really even belong to her anymore, right?
You've heard about being touched out
when moms are talking about, like...
No.
Okay, the kids are all on me.
I don't want anybody else to touch you.
Oh, like when mom needs to take like a hour,
maybe an hour in the car before she walking out the driveway
or she hiding in the closet because she just needs...
She's tired.
Don't touch me.
I know of that, but I didn't know it was called touched out.
Touched out.
like, you know, if you're nursing and you got a toddler with you and everybody's just grabbing for mom.
Yeah.
Right? At some point, it's just like, get off me. Right? So I was kind of being a little tongue and cheek here where I was saying men also need to give their women time to not make sex something that you start to also put the pressure on because she's adjusting to her body and the hormones and if she's lactating, you know, let her get her time to heal, but also for you too to figure out the dynamic now that kids are involved.
We're talking about things a lot more now
You can plan the nurses, the nannies, the sleep, all that
But then you still get to some of the postpartum things
Is that something that like
Can be passed down?
Like your mom deals with it
So then you dealt with it
So you've done everything to try to fight it
But like it still happens anyway
Is that a thing as well?
It can be
Yeah, the unfortunate part is we don't know
What causes this experience in women
It could be genetic
It definitely we feel pretty confident
that it's the hormonal shift that some people are more sensitive to.
But I also think a lot about what's modeled, right?
So what am I saying here?
If you saw generation after generation, women take on more than their share,
and now they're irritable after birth and more tearful,
is this something that's really postpartum blues?
Yes, we would diagnose it as such,
but is it that you saw women overdo it, not accept support?
not expect the men in their lives to step in and take care of the things that they just are doing.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I often think like when we're talking genetics, how much of it is really the family system like passing on certain behaviors.
But for now we don't know.
I want people to know what to look out for.
Can somebody experience postpartum psychosis and still have moments where they look completely rational?
Like they could be cooking dinner.
they answering text, taking care of the baby.
That was what they were saying in the Clancy case.
They said that she was functioning.
That's how the movies make it seem like that, too,
when they have these characters that have, like, kind of like the Lindsay Clancy case.
This is complicated.
I'm privileged that I got to actually see people who are ill.
A lot of mental health providers or psychiatric nurse practitioners, for example.
There were people who trained in psychiatry outside of, like, great institutions,
like NYU. NYU, by the way, is the VA hospital on First Avenue, Bellevue Hospital.
Oh, wow.
Okay. So we're seeing like everything.
Wow.
Okay. And that's where I got to see some of this. And then the hospital next door, Tish.
So Bellevue is the psychiatric hospital.
Yes. Yes. Notorious, right? If you don't really witness people who are truly in that
state, what we would call, like psychosis, you can pick up on things because you're making a diagnosis
based on what's the DSM, which is like our psychiatric handbook, which is a collection of
symptoms that if they meet these, this collection or meet criteria, then we call it that.
So I've even found when I'm, you know, working with someone who might be a therapist or a nurse
practitioner that we don't see the symptoms the same way.
I don't like to, you know, fluff myself here.
But I'm also like, I really got to see it.
Like Bellevue has Rikers, like Island.
There's a unit in that hospital.
seeing people who are truly, truly ill.
So, no, like, people who
have postpartum psychosis, from what I've
witnessed, they're bizarre.
They are
muttering to themselves. They're part
of when someone is psychotic,
if they have that experience, they're not really
taking good care of themselves. That's the
disorganization. So, the hygiene might
be down. They may be even, like,
styling themselves kind of oddly.
Why don't they take the baby away during those times?
You do. You should.
And not family members. I'm talking about
Yes.
Doctors.
Like the baby needs to go until she's...
Well, the doctor has to know what's happening too, though.
Doctor has to know it.
Also, the states, you know, the state that you are in,
their mental health hygiene laws really set the stage for whether or not they can
involuntarily admit you.
Like I said, New York is pretty strong on...
I mean, we were admitting people coming in with schizophrenia because they weren't taking
care of themselves, and that helps the community.
But also, we get them treated.
And then we move them down and sort of...
of the level of care to ideally not continue to live on the streets with like severe mental
illness. But if you're in like Texas, you know, I don't know their laws. It might be a little bit harder
for the psychiatrist to actually have the authority to involuntarily admit you. They may not
have enough units. So this is also a bit of like an advocacy issue too. Right. In New York, I mean,
you're getting admitted without a doubt. You're getting admitted that baby is going to have to be
with family until we treat you because it's a risk.
you could kill that
you could kill your baby
in other states again
I don't know what they have going on
but you'll find that it's state dependent
gotcha
yeah it's interesting right
because even with that case
and everything you're saying like
they said she did ask for help
like they said she asked for help
she had a lot of contact with mental health providers
before you know she did what she did there are kids
did she did she do it
yeah she did it right yes she did she did it
yeah what does that
teach us about the difference between having access to care and actually receiving the right care?
Great question. So this goes to quality, right? The quality of care. So even when I'm like running my
private practice, that's a part of the language I communicate is that I'm not just your doctor
treating you. You're getting quality care, which goes back to the training. Like, again, I picked
NYU because I knew I would see everything and that would make me more confident in my diagnostic skills
and then knowing how to treat.
So this is also the sort of unfortunate, ugly side of mental health treatment in this country,
which I think is evolving.
I'm glad we're talking about it.
I'm glad you've been spearheading, making this something that our community really focuses on.
But it's just going to depend on what you get, right?
You might sit across from someone who, where they train, they never saw someone come in with schizophrenia.
So they're really relying on the handbook, right?
They may have never seen a woman come in with postpartum psychosis.
When you see it, you know it.
They may have never seen someone come in with bipolar disorder.
So it's harder to call it.
They also might not feel comfortable to take away your rights or to say, like, we're going to
hospitalize you.
So the difference, unfortunately, is where people train, their comfort level in the medication,
you know, if you've got a lot of medication going on, that's usually not ideal for my
perspective.
That's kind of a red flag.
Like, what are we targeting?
Right.
Patients shouldn't be on multiple medications.
They should have closer follow.
up. So there's not really a standardized way of treatment because also in the U.S., I don't want to sound
like I'm bashing nurse practitioner because I know they're going to be in my comments later, but
the training is just so limited, right? And I've worked with people. I'm like, why would you prescribe
that for this? And it just tells me that they don't have enough experience, and you get to,
you get to kind of do your thing. My last question, what do you wish the Lindsay Clancy story had
taught America before it became this
courtroom story.
Well, again, I think keeping it
really simple, I would have hoped
that it would have started more conversations
around properly supporting families,
mothers, fathers,
thinking about the role for community.
I think, again,
it just should be more of the discussion nationally
about how we're going to properly make sure people have
what they need.
Doctors, I do need, you know, you to do a,
do you know make sure people are on the right medication and push for them to get admitted i
push mine like okay if you aren't if you aren't getting better let me tell you the hospital
i'm missing you to thank you dr jess dr jessica clemens man i would tell them to follow you
but you know you can i'm okay i'm there all right i want to get back in okay what is it is it still
ask dr jess well we appreciate you for joining us thank you so much and you'll join us
more.
You vanished for our life.
Like you jumped in.
I've been trying to get
done to jump in.
Did you vanish?
On your,
from you took it
intentionally took the time away.
No,
she vanished.
Yeah.
But you said from us
like it was just
breakfast club.
I've been trying to get her
at the Mental Wealth
Expo for a year.
I'm like,
now I'm thinking like
this would be a great year
for her just to do the whole
panel by herself.
I'm down.
Word?
Yes.
Okay.
I'm down.
I'm back out here.
She said I'm back out here.
My children,
my children are a bit older.
They can tolerate being away
from mom.
I got to shout them out.
I know y'all are watching.
Y'all better be on your best behavior.
But I want to because I see this as needed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know?
And I have a lot of fun.
You guys have just been really good to me.
I appreciate being here.
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All right, so we've been talking about legends this morning.
And speaking of legends, it is being reported or was announced that Judge Judy,
a legend in her own right.
Speaking of thick, them pictures be real?
No.
Judge Judy.
I ain't ever seen any person.
AI is really the trip.
That's before, A.I.
She didn't pick them way before you.
Because I'm like, her right now when you see her,
she's, no, she's not thick.
She's like, sure?
They had Judge Judy with a BBL online.
Like Judge Judy had like,
body.
Nah, that wasn't no BBL.
It's all natural right there.
I think it was fair.
Let me look.
She, what, like 75 or something like that?
Well, what I mean?
Nothing.
I'm just saying.
Look at it.
Well, yeah, she's retired after 30 years.
She's passing a gavel on down to her son.
And, yeah, she's going to be,
she says that she, you know,
she still wants her energy to be put out there,
but she wants to do her.
other things.
I wouldn't even want to do that if I was her son.
Because Judge Judy, I mean,
I don't know his personality.
Has he been doing anything?
Has he been on these judge shows?
There's nothing like Judge Judy.
I remember Judge Judy used to have
Gia's mom and mother-law in the Choco.
Like, that was her show.
They'll do.
Like her show.
Like, she would sit there for hours
and we would watch Judge Judy.
Like, he has his-ch-ch-o.
So he has his own show.
It's called Adams Law.
Yeah, he's been an attorney for more than 25 years.
So he's also been on,
he's been on a few shows, but yeah, he has a new series.
Adams Law. It premieres on, it premieres the day.
Yep, it's coming out through CBS.
I would figure out how I could use that name, like Judge Judy's son or something like that,
because I don't know.
Son of Judy.
Son of Judy sounds like a soap opera.
Yeah, I never heard of Adams Law.
Well, anyway, but yeah, she's taking a step back.
I mean, we've been watching her forever, so, you know.
God bless her.
She deserves it.
Yes.
Now, speaking of Legends, I want to go back.
I know we were talking about Jay Z this morning, and I am really still
excited about last night.
Because you met Jayzy and Beyonce.
You're never going to fail.
Not only did I meet them,
at the after party, y'all, you know I love to do
electric slide.
As soon as I heard the song, I got up and ran up, and I didn't expect
Jayze and Beyonce. Homecoming.
Homecoming, Beyonce.
Jayze and Beyonce was doing the electric slide.
They danced all night long, and I mean, like,
had a good time.
That's what couples in love do.
No, but, like, big celebrities be in there
and be, like, cute for the party.
They, like, had a good time.
You realize they're humans.
Yes, but y'all know what I'm talking about.
Two black-ass humans.
Y'all know what I'm talking about.
But you hang out with some people or be around them,
even if at a distance and they're there,
but they ain't really having a good time.
They were having a good time.
Couples in love were going to dance.
They're going to enjoy themselves.
They were, okay, all of that.
All of that.
Now, I want to play this audio that we have exclusively from Bronco Grinding from last night.
Jay-Z opened up the premiere when we were at the opera.
I thought you was in there working.
I thought you was in there taking it.
I was about to fight you.
No.
I took my phone out one second to not to record just to check what was happening in the world.
And Sholomein was like, get off your phone.
Be in the moment.
I put it away.
That's right.
Yeah, let's take a listen to Jay-Z as he opened up his premiere last night.
About this piece that Rick and I created.
It's been an extraordinary year.
It's Jay-Z-30.
I want to thank all you guys to come to the concert
and travel all around the world.
We didn't create this piece to come out at this time.
We were just curious to have this conversation around music and writing.
We didn't know what we would do with it.
It was just an idea that we discussed.
Rick and I.
I think what makes it really special
is that, you know, the love that we have of music.
Rick was super curious about the world that a lot of us come from.
So it took it in places that I don't think it normally would have went.
It's super fascinating.
I mean, if I do say it's on myself.
I hope you guys enjoy it.
Thank you guys for this beautiful 30-year journey.
Look forward to what's next.
Thank you.
And to answer the question, we watched two episodes last.
night you watch episode one and three so again on september 18 two episodes will drop and then they'll drop
on fridays after that but also i want to shout out angie martinez too when we first talked about
this documentary we mentioned that it would be fired to see her involved in some way last night she was the
voice of god in the theater which was like fired at here in new york let's take a listen to angie
yeah it is the voice of god again angri martinas ladies and gentlemen welcome to the met opera
It is our distinct honor to welcome to the stage,
The incomparable, Mr. Sean, J. Z. Carter.
Yeah, she was seated like right behind us
and then right behind her where Jay Z, Beyonce,
on the way and I saw DJ Callet.
He is skinny.
Salute to Cali. Cali really has lost a lot of women.
I told him that last night.
I said, man, I ain't going to find.
I thought this was just for the gram.
If I was him, I wouldn't have spoke to you.
You'd be so mean.
I'm not mean, man.
Jokes are not mean, okay?
Just saying.
They are the way people receive.
He was so nice.
He was so nice to me.
Caller's always nice.
That was a nice guy.
He's always been a nice guy.
I felt so bad.
But he really had lost a lot of ways.
He has.
Fat Joe walked up to him.
I was walking to the seat.
Fat Joe walked up and was like,
what's up?
Skinny.
I'm like, oh, they greet each other like that now
because I've lost away.
But yeah, shout out to Cissor too.
Saw Cissin the after party.
Did y'all know that Cizzo went to Delt State?
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that.
If I had told y'all that here,
y'all would have told me I was lying.
But Cizzo was right there when I said it.
and she was able to confirm it.
No, no.
You know what?
I am going to say nothing.
No.
No.
I didn't mean to.
But you do.
Nothing.
Shout of the gunner, too.
I saw him last night as well.
But.
Good morning.
The Cizzer.
Good morning.
Yeah, good morning.
You especially say good morning.
Say good morning.
Good morning.
That's right.
I'm going to close bars for Cizzer.
All right.
Hey, Cizzer.
I mean, look.
I love you, Cizzer.
I was going to say you can't take me nowhere.
But last night, I proved that you can.
We had a good time.
But I will say this.
I think it's very, very, very dope.
Seeing Jay Zia where he came from.
Like, I started in the industry,
and I got a chance to see Jay start
and him, you know, struggling get records played
and people not believe,
and then seeing the world believe.
And I used to, you know, sit up in Rockefeller Records
and just pretty much just wait for an album,
sitting in Lenny S&G's office and see Hove
and just see all the work that he actually put in
and to see it 30 years later
and to see people still receiving it
and still love it and still idolize it.
And him still working in it is really, really dope.
such nice, good people.
After all of that.
Like, Hove and Beyonce would be outside.
Like, you would see them out in a club,
and they were always so humble.
Even though they are multi-platinum artists and billionaires,
they still speak.
The biggest thing that last night,
all I was thinking about was how people say,
your character will take you places that sometimes even your talent is.
No, no, no, no.
Your talent will take you where your character can't sustain you.
Well, same.
So when you meet individuals like that,
you see why they've been on top of their game for so long.
Literally.
And why blessings just flow.
Like when I say just great, nice humans, like, and just having a really good time, like,
enjoying life.
They'll say we're glazing, but it's the truth.
I don't care.
And if you ever see Hope, like, he'll sit down and talk to you for, for, like, it's not like,
he's not going to say, okay, I got to go like, he's going to won you.
No.
He'll have conversations with you.
And it's crazy because you're like, bro, you got to do this for all these people,
but he has no problem doing it.
Yeah.
Now, Beyonce, they'll still for him.
You'll be like, I don't enough's enough.
But for holes.
No, she, like, when I was walking it, she walks up to you.
Yes.
And she'll, like, makes you feel welcome.
Says her name like you don't know her name?
I didn't even speak back.
I just held my hand out.
Stop settling.
I text the group chat instantly, y'all.
I just met Beyonce.
If you can't celebrate other people's success,
you'll never have any success of your own.
And I will never downplay the inspiration that Jay-Z
has provided me throughout my life.
Okay.
All right, never.
And we should never downplay the inspiration that Jay-Z has provided a whole generation.
I'm going to keep telling y'all that over and over and over again.
And once again, you should hope to get to a point the way you have something to celebrate after 30 years.
You should pray for that.
Like, you want to get money for three years or 30.
I just need to think this logically through.
All of you people out there be like, oh, see you old blah, blah, you would you rather get money for three years or 30.
You want something to celebrate 30 years from now.
Like you think you think about it, right?
To celebrate five is amazing.
To celebrate 10 is difficult.
To celebrate 15 is always impossible.
We're going on 16.
Like that's almost impossible.
How many, you know, not to glaze ourselves,
but how many radio shows have gone this long?
Glazing yourself is crazy.
Yeah.
I don't even like that big hole in my head.
I'm going to dog.
You know, hold on.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
You need to be nice to people too,
because I'd be apprehensive when we run into them.
Let me do this.
And that was brought to you by life.
Not the glazing, just that part.
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Man, for after the hour, uh, salute to all my Nigerians out there.
Okay. Let's talk stereotypes.
Oh boy.
And scamming.
Oh boy.
But I got y'all this morning, Nigeria.
Don't even worry about it, okay?
But there's six Nigerian men who need to come to the front of the congregation.
We'd like to have a word with them.
We'll get to it next.
It's the breakfast club.
Good morning.
Tellah!
Maybe.
It's time for.
Donkey of the day.
There's a bunch of donkeys out here in these.
Scott's crazy.
I'm going to make donkey of the day.
It really caught me off guard.
We live a life where we bite our tongue based off who we made a thing.
We never would say anything.
Salamay, give it to him.
Give it to him.
You are a donkey.
That is why Sholamane is here.
Some donkey todays just saw themselves.
On the Breakfast Club.
Okay, Charlemagne, who we're giving donkey of the day to today?
Well, donkey today for Monday, September 14th, goes to six Nigerian men who were extradited
from South Africa to the United States for allegedly being involved in a romance scam that
targeted more than 100 women and stole millions of dollars.
I'm not even going to sit here and act like I can pronounce these brothers' names, but let's go
to SABC News for the report, please.
The six Nigerian nationals who are suspects in a multi-million-rand online romance scam
have arrived at the Cape Town International Airport for their extradition to the United States.
They are allegedly linked to the Nigerian cybercrimes syndicate, the Black Hawks,
and face charges of money laundering and wire fraud.
The Hawks say they initially arrested eight suspects in 2021,
with one being granted bail of 210,000 rand,
while another was extradited to the United States in 2024.
This followed cooperation between the Hawks, Interpol, the FBI, and the U.S. Secret Service.
Remember that the crime scene is online.
So there had to be proper investigation and proper money trail to be traced back to individual suspects so that we are able to make a case that is tangible to stand before court.
Jesus Christ, you ain't say their names either.
So now I got to attempt.
I just say their first names.
Perry Franklin, Osirimin, Collins, Musa, and Torres Sahu.
And last name, Osajid.
Osage, Otagah, and Otter.
Definitely not right, but go ahead.
Anyway, they are accused.
They haven't been convicted, so we'll let the court handle that part.
But I want to discuss this morning stereotypes, okay?
Because I saw this story.
My first thought was my Nigerian brothers,
why are y'all reinforcing this stereotype?
You know the stereotype I'm talking about, okay?
There are people on this planet who, when they heard young Miami ass,
where all the scamming ass and words at,
the first place they thought about is Nigeria, okay?
I was born in 1978, and Nigeria.
have been fighting the scamma stereotype in America for as long as I can remember.
Okay, it started with those Nigerian Prince emails.
You know, remember those you get, hello, my dear.
I have inherited $14 million and I need your assistance, okay?
That's what started a lot of this.
And I don't like it because I love Nigerians.
Okay, Nigeria has over 200 million people.
Some of the smartest, most educated, most successful people I've ever met are from Nigeria.
Dropping a clues box from Nigeria, damn it.
You got doctors, you got lawyers, you got engineers, you got business,
As you can look at what Nigerian culture is doing around the world right now.
You know, the Afro beaches everywhere.
You got Burnaboy.
We just was playing Tim's, okay?
Nigeria has spent years showing the world that there's so much more to that country
than the stereotypes people have about it.
And then here come these six individuals doing romance scams, allegedly.
Okay, do you understand how much that has to piss off other Nigerians?
Somewhere this morning, there is a Nigerian man sending a completely legitimate business email,
and somebody is looking at that email.
rubbing their chin like hmm I don't know okay some Nigerian brother is on a dating app right
now trying to genuinely meet somebody and the woman is nervous waiting to be asked for money
but that's how stereotypes work okay one person does something and somehow everybody who looks like
them comes from where they're they're from gets thrown into it don't become somebody else's
confirmation bias okay people already got ignorant ideas about certain groups and they just wait
for something to happen that makes them feel like they're right okay they don't
care about the millions of Nigerians who wake up every morning and go to work
raise their families and don't scam nobody they're gonna see this story and
say see I told you all them scamming ass Negroes Carisha was talking about her
from Nigeria I told you no okay we're talking about six Nigerians six
individuals okay and guys if you know people already have an unfair stereotype about
your community why would you go out there and allegedly
become the stereotype.
That's what I don't understand.
And I know some people don't like that argument
because they'll say,
why should I have to represent my whole race?
Why should Nigerians have to represent all Nigerians?
You're right.
You shouldn't.
That's an unfair burden.
Okay, white people don't have to do that.
When Bernie Madoff stole billions of dollars,
nobody said, man, we got to keep an eye
on all these white people in their Ponzi schemes.
No, we said Bernie Madoff was a crook.
Okay, one man.
We didn't make millions of people answer for him,
but black people.
Okay, my brothers, my sister.
from all over the globe. You know damn well.
That's not how it works for us.
Okay, people shouldn't stereotype Nigerians
because of what these six men allegedly did,
but people will. And that's why these allegations
are true, you know,
these brothers got to suffer the consequences.
Okay, these brothers didn't just hurt the women
they allegedly scams. They made life
a little more annoying for some innocent Nigerians
somewhere who already has to
deal with this stereotype.
And I have to say, the actual
scam itself is nasty too.
Oh, because Rome,
No man scammers aren't you stealing money.
They're studying people's loneliness.
Okay.
That's what makes this so foul.
You're finding somebody who wants companionship and you're figuring out exactly what they need to hear.
Good morning, beautiful.
Did you eat today?
I have joluff.
Then three months later, baby, I'm having a little trouble access in my bank account.
Sir, you don't need a girlfriend.
Okay, you need a loan officer.
And what really gets me is the amount of work that allegedly goes into these scams.
If you have enough discipline to talk to somebody every day,
enough patience to gain their trust,
enough people skills to make them fall in love with you,
enough business sense to allegedly move millions of dollars around,
then you clearly have the skill and talent to do something legitimate.
You could have been putting all of that energy
into actually doing something legitimate,
but no, you want a scam.
But back to the moral of the story,
there's already an ugly stereotype attached to Nigerians.
and these six men allegedly decided to become somebody's evidence for it.
Okay, you shouldn't have to live your life trying to prove stereotypes wrong,
but you're damn sure shouldn't be working over time to prove them right.
Please give these six alleged romance scammers from Nigeria the biggest he-ha.
I don't get it.
How you say their names?
I don't know.
Don't do that to her.
His accident changed and everything.
I don't even know why because that wasn't even the Nigerian accent.
I don't know what you're doing.
I don't know what that was.
I have no idea.
Well, thank you for that donkey today.
Now, when we come back, Kristen and Montel Jordan will be joining us.
They have a new children's book, Shiloh and the Not So Scary Girl Above His Bed.
Damn!
A book about overcoming fear with faith.
All right.
We're going to talk to them next.
Why did you do that?
There was no reason to say, damn.
It's a children's book.
I just feel like saying damn all morning.
Yeah, I just made no sense.
This is dope for me from last night.
Damn.
All right.
My cowboys lost.
Damn.
That was a good one.
That was a good one.
And everything feels like I need a damn this morning.
I ain't here for travel.
Y'all check on traffic.
I don't know.
Trabb.
Damn.
I don't know.
All right.
It's breakfast club.
Good morning.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ NV.
Jeterlarious.
Sholomey and God.
We are the breakfast club.
Lauren Lowe's here as well.
We got some special guests in the buildings.
Yes, indeed.
We have Montel and his wife, Christian Jordan.
Welcome.
What's up?
Christine.
I'm sorry.
Kristen.
Sorry.
She is a Christian.
I am.
How y'all feel?
We felt great.
Man, we are so good.
Yeah.
New children's book Shiloh and the scary girl above his bed.
The not so scary girl above his bed.
Talk us about this book.
Yeah, this actually started with my son when he was three years old.
He was afraid of the monster that lived under his bed.
And the crazy part, I was like, Lord, we got to fix this.
Because he would show up on my doorstep at my door every single night.
I was like, okay, you got to sleep in your own bed, bud.
But he was so afraid of this monster.
And I was like, okay.
And so one night when I was putting him to bed, I said, baby, what if?
the monster that's under the bed
is more afraid of you than you are of him
and what if he wants to be your friend
and he was like
huh
I said I assure you that
he's way more afraid of you than you are of him
he was like
okay
and he decided he was sleeping his bed
and I was like
okay this is good
we can do this
where did that instinct come from
because I do that with bugs
like when my little girls
mad at the ants I'd be like you were way big
bigger than the man's scared
right well you know the crazy thing is
I think one of the
I think one of the things we do is parents
that is, we don't know what we're doing.
But the concept of it is, is that we will say, oh, that's not scary.
But the truth is, when we were kids, we were afraid of that too.
But when we lean into it and say, hey, what if, and it's the wonder, right, and to ask them the questions.
And once they are able to think about it and articulate how they feel, it's like, oh, wait a minute, you're right.
I'm way bigger than that bug.
I'm way bigger than whatever it is that I'm afraid of.
Yeah, it's flipping fear on its side because I think we believe that unattended fear.
as a child can become
trauma and anxiety
and worry
oppression yeah and even as
marriage people that that help
couples in marriage we found that
a lot of their fears
go all the way back to their childhood
to things about staying or
fighting or being afraid of this
absolutely you know isolation
all those different things you know it's so crazy
because we literally sit across on couples
all the time and we're like
so what is going on well I'm afraid
to stay. I'm afraid to go. I'm afraid I picked the wrong one. It's like, good night. And when we
thought about that, we were like, where does that come from? And it comes to when you have childhood
fears, us as parents saying, oh, you don't have to be afraid of that. But the truth is,
unattended fear becomes anxiety, becomes oppression, becomes depression, becomes not knowing
what to do next. And so we got to teach kids how to be brave. I love it because it's about
perspective, right? Because it's like, you know, it's not about removing your child's fear,
but just teaching them another way to look at them.
I don't know when you're not traumatizing your kid, right?
I don't want to traumatize the kids so much where they're super duper scared,
but I don't want to coddle them too much where everything falls back and I got a nine-year-old
sleeping in between mom and dad, you know what I mean?
So I don't know when it's not going too far.
Well, the truth of the matter is, is that we need to lean in.
It's asking more questions and listening.
A lot of times we're so quick to tell them what they're supposed to think or what
they're supposed to feel.
And the truth is, is when you ask them the questions, they'll tell you what they're really
afraid of. Like for us,
we have five kids,
five grandkids. We got, we got a lot of
experience. So,
and the crazy part
of that is, is that when we lean in
and ask, why are you afraid to go to?
We have my youngest daughter right now,
went to high school. Like three days
before school, she starts acting a fool. I'm like,
what's wrong with you? And she was like,
you know what, mom, I'm afraid to go to school.
I was like, why? I was like,
you go to a school that you love.
It's an art school. She's like,
What if I don't make friends in ninth grade?
So what that does and what that tells me is that every kid has fears, right?
And so rather than say, oh, you're going to make friends.
I said, you know what?
What about that is scary to you?
She goes, what if they don't like me?
I said, you already know them.
I said, and here's the truth.
You're already accepted.
You're already amazing.
Whoever God has for you to be your friend, they're going to be awesome.
So lean into, I don't need a whole bunch of friends.
what if I just make one?
And so as we start to talk it out,
she realizes like, I can relax.
It's going to be all right.
But it's really just dialoguing with them.
I'm somebody who deals with anxiety.
And one thing I've learned,
and I want to know what y'all think about this.
Do we actively teach children that fear is weakness
when fear is actually information?
That's correct.
That's exactly right.
And I think it's the leaning in
that allows the information to inform your brain
and your heart how to react.
It's not that it's not scary.
It's that if you ask the right questions,
you can proceed with the bravery and the courage.
It's so crazy.
We're believers.
And one of the things that always shocks me is that the scriptures is a lot of times it says,
be bold and courageous.
The only reason it would say that is what you're facing is scary.
Because otherwise, there's no reason to say that, right?
So when we're dealing with giants in our lives, whatever that may look like,
we have to do it afraid.
But how do we do it afraid?
We lean in and we do hard things.
It's not that we're dealing.
don't do the things that we need to do, but it's learning how to do it the right way and doing
it afraid and saying, guess what, it's okay to be afraid, but I know that you'll do this and do
it well. Yeah, I agree. And from that standpoint, when we, like I said, if you can catch it early,
if you can get to the kids before fear grabs a stranglehold on them and to teach them, and like
you said, some fear is not unfound. Like, you need to be afraid of that. I need to put fear in
you in certain instances, you know, when you want to put your fingers in the socket or whatever.
No, don't, don't do that.
I need you to be afraid of what will happen, not only if you do that, but what I will do to
you if I catch you trying to do that.
Yeah.
And so I think that it is important for us to be able to give a healthy measure of what fear is,
but also to equip people to understand.
And I say people, even our little people, we need them to understand that fear is not
something, you know, to shy away from, but to be able to.
but it faces and face it and recognize what it is because you know I think the more you run from
your fear or whatever you know it'll chase you your entire lifetime absolutely now the baby boy
who's the whole the story is about yes how old is he now now he's 22 22 yeah he's about to turn
at more house okay does he get his royalties in publishing I was no it's okay I was okay he's the
whole franchise so okay guess what at the end of the day
all of this is going to be theirs, right?
So we leave legacy and inheritance to our children's children's children.
So it's going to be good.
And it's funny because we had him at the release party and it was so funny.
The kids were like, he's so big.
I said, yes, look, and he made it.
And he's brave.
They're like, I can do this.
I was like, yes.
Is he still scared under the bed?
Just the case?
No, not in the bed.
It's the lineman come across the line.
How would this book teach a child to distinguish between fear that's protecting them and fear that's limiting them?
So the idea of it is that when we are putting our kids to bed, right?
So this is a story really designed to talk about the things that they were afraid of in that day.
And so what we want to do is invite the parents to have conversations about what the child has dealt with during the day.
And so we want them to understand when we have fear, it's okay to be fearful.
but what can you do about it?
We can invite faith into that and say,
God made you brave.
You can do hard things.
You can be bold.
You can be courageous.
And really, the truth is,
as much of the negative words that we've said,
if we say the positive and we show them,
because they don't come with fears.
They don't, just like we talked about
our one-year-old granddaughter,
like she has zero fear,
zero inhibitions.
She will walk right off the side of the pool,
right into the water.
And so it's one of those things
is that now we're teaching
them how to have conversations to pay attention to what's going on inside them and note that
this doesn't have to be this way. What's something your children taught you about God that church
never could? That a love of a child is one of the most innocent and beautiful things that you
could ever steward. I don't think we talk about that in church very much, but it is one of the
greatest gifts that you get is to see this person that you created.
But you get to navigate them through.
The good, the bad, the ugly, whatever that is.
And that I get to be a good steward over this kid.
But what I pour in, I get out.
When I was a kid, my mom used to tell me, you can't plant peas and get corn.
You can't put the negativity and all the stuff that we get from the world.
We have to start with what we put in there.
It's going to come out eventually.
They go through rough patches.
They go through rough times.
But the truth is they always come back and it always comes around.
For me, let me just jump in there real quick, that I learned the most valuable lesson that I've ever learned about ministry that church could not teach me.
And this is when we had first brought our daughter Samantha home and she was three days old and she wasn't eating.
And at the time, we didn't know what was going on.
And then literally, baby started turning blue or whatever.
And we didn't know what to do.
And so we end up rushing to the hospital or whatever.
And when we're there, this is a three-day old baby who had.
eating, we're trying to breastfeed and everything, and she just would not, would not eat.
And so when we get to the hospital, they basically tell us, hey, we're going to need to do a
spinal tap. As a father, them coming to me to say, hey, we need to do this to your daughter for her
to live. And I'm thinking to myself, they're coming to me for the answer. My wife is looking at me.
Everybody's looking to me to be like, what do you, what do you do? And I had to trust one,
okay well God you gave her to us and so she was yours before she was ours and even I don't want to
make this decision I have to trust that I'm going to put her in the hands of the people that are saying
they know more than what I know and so the closest I have ever tried to imagine what it is to give up
your child for somebody else what God did for us through through Jesus that was what I felt like
it gave me the closest understanding of what it is to actually be willing to sacrifice
a life that you love so much,
but trusting God in that space.
And so I've never wanted to have to do that again,
but from that standpoint,
just understanding I'm not God,
but if I could get a glimpse of what he felt like
to give up his child,
to me, that's what I got out of that.
I always told parents to double check
and make sure triple check.
So something similar happened last year at Christmas time,
they told me my daughter wouldn't need brain surgery.
Something didn't sit right with me.
Yeah.
And we took her out of New Jersey and I took it to hospital in New York.
Yeah.
And when the doctor's seen her in New York, he came, he looked at the charts, he started laughing, right?
So I didn't find it funny.
I'm like, what's so funny?
Yeah, and I'm serious.
What the fuck so funny?
I'm not.
Because I'm telling you exactly.
We understand.
I'm not right now what you're telling me that.
So we were sitting in, me and my wife's in and baby's in.
The baby is wrapped up.
And he was like, those doctors told you in Jersey that she needed a brain surgery.
I'm like, yeah, he starts laughing.
Ha, ha, ha.
I'm like, what's so funny?
She was like she doesn't need brain surgery.
It was like there's nothing on this chart that tells me she needs brain surgery.
What she does need is that she needs to clean out her, you know, everything that's in her nose.
Oh, yeah, she's up to it, her sinuses.
But she has a sinus infection, no brain surgery.
Wow.
So if we would have left her there, they probably would have started with the brain surgery.
I messed her up.
And I still didn't believe the doctors.
I'm like, two doctors told me she needed this.
Yeah.
They did the sinus thing.
and within hours,
face cleared up.
Yeah.
It was the craziest thing.
And it just made me think,
like when it comes to that,
you got to ask,
you got a double check,
you got a triple check,
you got to call.
I mean,
I call Charlemagne,
because they told me the best
children's hospital
was in South Carolina.
Remember I called you?
I'm like,
give me that number.
Can you get this?
Like, it was bad.
I get it.
Yeah, yeah.
Because you're so scared.
But I know you guys
have to go,
and before you go,
I want to talk about
September is prostate cancer awareness month.
Yes.
I want to talk about that
before you go.
And why it's so important
and why people should get checking how they should get checked.
You beat it twice.
So break it down to the brothers out there listening.
All right, two-time cancer survivor.
Last time I was here last year was prostate cancer awareness month.
And I was headed into a treatment.
I had my prostate removed in November of 2024.
And then cancer came back in 2025.
And so at that time, I then went from not having a prostate to now having proton therapy,
which was 37 rounds of this radiation treatment.
or whatever. And I can say several different things. One, I am my PSA, which is prostate-specific
antigen level, which is characterized by a blood test now. You don't have to do the finger checks.
My PSA is sub-0.01, which is undetectable, meaning I'm cancer-free. So thank God for that.
One in every eight men will be diagnosed with prostate cancer in their lifetime. One at every six
will be African-American and less likely to survive it because of late diagnosis.
late diagnosis.
They usually don't get diagnosed until stage four.
Yeah.
And so then now you have less choices.
How often do you get checked for prostate?
Is it yearly when you do you check?
No, I don't get checked for prostate anymore because I don't have a prostate.
How often should somebody get checked?
Yeah.
Well, right now, well, how often should somebody get checked is normally once a year,
when your physicals, once you reach a certain age for African American men,
you want to start going probably a little early.
They say as early as 35 to 40.
It's in blood.
It's just in your blood now.
You just have to ask for the test.
But you have to ask for the test because when you go just for a regular physical, they're not going to check your PSA.
That's correct.
They're not.
That's crazy.
They're trying to do a lot of.
So when you go to the doctor and they give blood, they be like everything's clear.
Everything.
Right.
You automatically think that they checked everything.
No, you have to ask.
You have to ask.
You have to ask.
And it's super important because the thing is, the insurance companies, it costs like $75, right, for them to do.
So that's why they don't want everybody doing it, right?
But the truth is, is it pales in comparison.
They're trying to pass legislation.
now and do some different things to get it like mandatory like when a woman like they want you to have mammograms or x y and zy
they're starting to want men to have PSA but they haven't passed that legislation yet hopefully we're somewhere at the forefront of that but ultimately the goal is uh now i go
every four months to go back and just have blood check to whatever uh and then at some point when i'm clear
you know it'll be six months and then a year and then i think after like 10 years or whatever then you don't have to
to do that anymore.
So, you have to leave?
Yeah.
Well, how can they get the book?
Anywhere you can possibly buy a book?
Okay.
You get it.
Amazon, books a million.
We like Amazon, but Barnes and Noble.
Books a million.
Wherever you can get a book.
Oh my God.
Both of my kids got membership at Books a Million.
Yay.
You're about to go get Shaila.
Yeah.
Or pick it up if you're out and about.
Thank you for joining us so much.
Shil and the not so scary girl above his bed.
That's right.
Christian and Martel Jordan.
Thank you for having us.
Thank you so much.
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She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.
She gets to detail.
I'm a home girl that knows a little bit about everything.
She'd be having the latest on this.
The latest with Lauren La Rosa.
Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit everything.
Well, it's the latest.
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Yes. Hey. All right. So over the weekend, we've been following this, just kind of talking about things as they, as they happen a bit. Little dirt, little dirt over the weekend. It was announced that he was found not guilty in the murder for hire case that has happened in L.A. So he is now exonerated in this murder for hire case because the jury found him not guilty on all five of the charges. And only took the three days to deliberate to return this verdict and his alleged involvement in that 2022.
shooting in LA that ended up in
Cuando Rondo's cousin
being killed. So yeah.
But he's still locked up though, right?
Yeah, he's still locked up because he has another case that he's fighting.
There's another Rico case that he's finding that he's going to have to
deal with over in Chicago.
But yeah, I mean, this is a big
thing to walk away from.
I saw a lot of people pointing to
you know, Brian Steele
as, you know, on the defense team and
yeah, Drew Finland
as well on the defense team. But
I honestly, I didn't know
what was going to happen, but I don't know if I knew it would be like he just walked away from all of those charges.
I mean, like I said before, I never understood what they had on, Dirk, because when you put these guys on the stand that, you know, are confessing to all of these different crimes that they committed and they're trying to save their own ass, they can point the finger at anybody.
Like, I never understood the whole cooperating witness thing.
Unless you got some, unless you got evidence, and then you got people that are, you know, I guess, validating that evidence.
evidence, I never understood the whole cooperating witness thing.
You can just put somebody on the stand and they can just
accuse you all the type of stuff.
Yeah, it's not telling the truth because if they
cooperate, they get less time. But like, yeah,
if you're talking about life and
you could possibly get some numbers where you can come home,
you're going to say anything you have to
to say to get home. Yeah, but
I will say sometimes that
works because the defense isn't
as good as showing you that these people are not
trustworthy. So that
legal team that Dirk has set up, I don't care
who sent them, who did not send them, they
the way that they, yes.
I ain't heard y'all give no praises
to Allah yet because I will tell you this
I can't wait to see
what God has in store for Little Dirk because
before Dirk went in, he
clearly was trying to change his life, clearly.
Like, you know, his album was called Almost Healed.
You know, he was going to therapy and things of that
nature. Like, he was given, he
had submitted his will to God. Like, so
I can't wait to see what the second act is after this.
Well, real quick, before we stop
talking about Little Dirk, I do want to mention
Amber Grimes sat down with his mom
the Little Dirk's mom on If You Knew Better, which is her podcast.
It's on the Black Effect podcast network.
And it was so sad to hear.
But Little Dirk's mom was talking about kind of who she blamed for all that Dirk recently went through.
Let's take a listen.
I feel like everything that has happened is my fault.
I blame myself for my son getting killed and I blame myself for my son being locked up.
I know for a fact it's my fault because if I will listen to my mom,
then on what to do and how to do it, how to move, how to go finish school, how to get your
career going so that you can get about the neighborhood that we live in, which is 72220.
And I kept putting it off like, oh, I got plenty of time to do that.
If I would have listened like I was supposed to, we would have been somewhere totally different.
They would have been raised different.
And I felt like everything would have been better.
Right now, I'm just going through the motions right now to try to get everything back on track.
Do you believe there's still time for you to do that?
Yes.
It's never too late.
I've been asked my children for forgiveness.
And they're like, for what?
What did you do?
They think the world of me.
And I never understood why.
That's powerful.
Yeah.
And again, I was if you knew better,
as a conversation with Amber Grimes.
And her name is Ms.
Shonda Woodard.
That's Dirk's mom.
So she was talking about the past enough,
his brother D thing as well, too.
But yeah.
It's understandable, right?
Because as parents,
you want to make sure that you put your kids
in the best predicament,
and the best situation,
whatever that may be.
Yeah.
And sometimes we work hard to do it.
And I understand why she would feel that way.
Like,
I'm sure she feels like if I would have did it this way,
I would have got out of that part of Chicago.
I would have been able to raise them in this part.
And maybe they wouldn't have went down a lifestyle
that they did.
But you also can't blame yourself, right?
Because you don't have, you know,
you don't have a...
You're doing the best you can with what you have.
Match ball and see the future.
But she's essentially saying she wish she would have broke the cycle.
But I think one of the most important things that she said was
she should have listened to the
adults that came before her.
If she had listened to her mom, then she would have made, you know, better choices and she
would have got out there in the environment, then things might have been different for her kids.
So it's a lot of different lessons to be learned than that.
But one of the biggest takeaways is listen to the people who came before you.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
And I know it was emotional for her and her family and for Dirk.
I saw some of the reporters in the courtroom mentioned at how emotional it was for them.
So, yes.
All right, y'all.
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Today is Nas's birthday. We're going to start to mix off
with some Nas. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy.
Just hilarious. Charlemagne,
the guy. We are the breakfast club. I want to salute
to my little baby girls again.
Yes. Brooklyn and London.
Fire. If you didn't listen to earlier, they
made the New York City's kids
dancers. So they are going to be
dancing at the home game. So if you
head to some of the next games, you probably
will see them. Hopefully you'll see them.
I'm super duper excited.
There's 26 kids to make the team, but they divide them off to 13 to 13.
Because they are kids and they are working and they are getting paid.
They can only work a certain amount of hours a week.
So they will be working.
So they will be getting their first checks and I'm excited for them.
So they understand how important this is and how they got to be on time,
how they got to be with kids.
They have special appearances.
It's pretty dope.
So salute again to the Nick City kids' dancers.
Salute to Latoya, who was the coach.
Salute to Jen.
They are the choreographers of this thing
And they really, really, really love the kids
So I just want to say thank you
I'm happy they making some money
Again
My daughter was a cheerleader
And boy, they don't make no money
Them cheerleading competitions
Like being a chair dad
You're just putting out, putting out
To the fact that they're in dance
And they already making some money
Oh my god
Yeah now they're making money
They get paid for rehearsing
They get paid for performing
They get paid for special appearances
They get paid for all that
And they're super duper excited so
I know that's right
And v you congratulations
That got to feel good as a parent
Absolutely
I just love watching them.
I just love watching them do something that they really want to do.
But you work hard to get your babies into things.
You never know what's going to stick and what's going to happen.
So I know that that feels good to watch and see.
Absolutely.
And also we got a salute to Dr.
Jess for joining us this morning.
Salute to Dr. Jessica Clemens.
Very important conversation we had today.
Speaking of babies.
Yes, very important conversation we had today about postpartum psychosis.
You know, Dr. Jessica Clemens is a board certified psychiatrist.
And, you know, that is our specialty, you know, dealing with pregnant women.
and maternal health.
So salute to her, you know, maternal mental health, you know.
So salute to Dr. Jessica Clemens and make sure you go check out that full conversation on Netflix.
And also salute to Kristen and Montel Jordan for joining us.
They stopped through earlier to talk about their new children's book,
Shiloh and the Not So Scarey Girl Above His Bed, A Book About Overcoming Fear with Faith.
So salute to them for joining us to join us.
Why would you point in to me?
You just sent me something and I was on a flight with him yesterday.
Oh, okay.
You know what I want to salute to?
I want to salute to Mr. Abdul.
Sout to you, brother.
That is a scissors father.
You know, every time I run into scissors parents, you know, Miss Audrey and Mr.
Abdul, they're always very pleasant people, man.
And I saw Mr. Abdul last night, got to spend some time with him and have a conversation.
So salute to him.
Older people love you.
I'm a nice human.
I know you are.
You just don't act like it all the time, but you are.
You are.
Does any human act like it?
You're fine by me.
I'm consistent.
What the auntie said?
You're fine by me.
Get over there and do that little games.
No,
they're,
you're so handsome.
No,
they,
I don't know what it is.
It's the cataracts.
It's the cataracts.
Because I'm 90,
these rom-com fine,
okay?
How do you say it to him?
He says,
how you say,
I am?
Like, usually people say,
you know,
it's the cataracts,
I promise you.
Every time somebody
be like,
they'd be like the eyes.
I'd be like,
they think you're women.
The eyebrows.
When we come back,
positive notice of breakfast
before me.
Envy just described me and got bricked up.
He's like, no, it's the thick thigh.
You see, they think he's a woman.
You see how he just described?
Why are you looking up on me like that?
Time to get up out of here.
You got a positive note.
Yes, first I want to tell everybody, though,
you know my sixth annual Mental Wealth Expo is happening on World Mental Health Day
at the Joel and Diane Bloom Wellness and Event Center in Newark, New Jersey.
It is a completely free event.
Salute to the good brother, Dr. J. Barnett.
He will be there.
The good sister, Debbie Brown.
She's hosting it along with me, and she's curating the whole event.
event man. Dr. Rita Walker, the
author, the unapologetic guy, the black mental
health, she's going to be there. The good brother
Kierre Gaines is going to be there.
Elliot Connie is going to be there. Salute to Michelle
Williams. She's back joining us this year.
You know, the last couple of years, she's been on Broadway
where she's going to be there
with us at the Mental Wealth Expo.
And just right now,
I am letting everybody know
that Dr. Julius
Thomas will be there
along with Dr. Ayanla
Van Zant. And
We are doing a healing the heart and rewiring the brain presentation with Dr. Julius Thomas and Dr. Ayanne Levantz.
So Saturday, October 10th, doors open at 1030 a.m.
The Joelle and Diane Bloom Wellness and Event Center in Newark, New Jersey.
It is a free event, completely free and open to all ages.
Just go to Mental Wealthexpo.com, the RSVP to be there.
Now, the positive note is simply this.
Abundance often arrives when desperation leaves, okay, to less you chase from a place of lack,
the more freely life begins to unfold.
Not because the universe rewards indifference,
but because contentment frees you to recognize opportunities you once overlooked.
When your heart is no longer grasping,
your hands are finally open to receive.
Have a great day.
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People wake up and go, oh, damn, wait a hold up.
They change all of that?
Yes.
It's real.
This is a wholesale attack.
It is targeting black people in every federal agency.
It's raw.
White folks have never allowed that reckoning to last more than a decade.
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Hey there, everybody. Amy Robock and TJ Holmes here from the Amy and TJ podcast.
A lot of times the story of the day is what we're all talking about and buzzing about.
And yes, sometimes it's Love Island and sometimes it's Serena, Robes.
Coming back to the U.S. Open, sometimes it's obsession.
And Spider-Man making box office history.
Hopefully, Rose, people get our point.
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Is there an epidemic against literature?
More specifically, black literature.
I'm Jack Quist-Peace Thomas, and on this season of the Black Lits podcast, we're outside asking why.
They don't want a whole bunch of little elevators, Michael Rexes and Martin with the Kings running around.
And when you look at a lot of different cultures, they're like, we need to know where you came from.
And considering this is Black Reading Month, the only real question is, what do you?
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