The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Jermaine Dupri Brings Out Bow Wow, Marley Marl Is Celebrated + More At The BET Hip Hop Awards, Jada Pinkett Reveals She And Will Smith Have Been Separated For Seven Years, Ma$e Speaks On The Night Biggie Was Killed + More

Episode Date: October 11, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going.
Starting point is 00:00:45 That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag.
Starting point is 00:01:11 This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that?
Starting point is 00:01:23 Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zaka-stan. Keep held! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-a-stan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. I'm Madison Packer,
Starting point is 00:01:39 a pro hockey veteran going on my 10th season in New York. And I'm Anya Packer, a former pro hockey player and now a full Madison Packers stan. Anya and I met through hockey, and now we're married and moms to two awesome toddlers, ages two and four. And we're excited about our new podcast, Moms Who Puck, which talks about everything from pro hockey to professional women's athletes to raising children and all the messiness in between. So listen to Moms Who Puck on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, 1974. George Foreman was champion of the world. Ali was smart and he was handsome. Story behind the Rumble in the Jungle is like a Hollywood movie. But that is only half the story. There's also James Brown, Bill Withers, B.B. King, Miriam Akiba. All the biggest black artists on the planet.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Together in Africa. It was a big deal. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and The Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Being here next to all of you guys, it's really big. It's one of my favorite shows to do. Just because y'all always keep it 100, y'all keep it real. But what better place than here? I think everybody should go on The Breakfast Club and start with that if you want to shake it up.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Good morning, USA! Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo! Charlamagne the God. Peace to the planet. Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. Hump Day. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:34 It's Wednesday. It's Hump Day. It's middle of the week now. Good morning. Another day to serve, man. That is right. Come on, man. I feel blessed, black, and highly favored.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I feel like I'm ready to be of service today. What's happening? Well, Jason Lee was supposed to join us today, but he had a schedule conflict. I didn't know that. What happened? I didn't know that until this morning. Yesterday, I guess, his team scheduled something else, and he couldn't make it. But, you know, after the show yesterday, he said, I'll be back tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Well, he's a busy man. Yes, he is. And, you know, that's why the Breakfast Club third seat is a rotating position at the moment. That's right. Because people be busy. I know that there's
Starting point is 00:04:10 a lot of people that y'all like to see sitting in the seat. We always hear people say, Jess Hilarious, Jess be busy. We hear people say
Starting point is 00:04:16 Claudia Jordan. Claudia's been shooting something for a minute. I don't know what's going on. On an island somewhere, right?
Starting point is 00:04:22 Something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know she said she's going to announce it soon, whatever it is. You know what I mean? But the fact of the matter is, folks be busy. They be't know what's going on. On an island somewhere, right? Something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know she says she's going to announce it soon, whatever it is. You know what I mean? But the fact of the matter is folks be busy. They be busy. That's all. Until they're not. That's right. This is
Starting point is 00:04:32 our commitment from 6 a.m. to 10 a.m. That is right. And soon it'll be somebody else's commitment from 6 a.m. to 10 a.m. Correct. Who that person will be, we don't know. And you should believe me when I'm lying. Yes. When you're lying, believe him or when he's telling the truth. Which means I't know. And you should believe me when I'm lying. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:48 When you're lying, believe him or when he's telling the truth. Which means I already know. Do you? No. Oh. Are you lying? I just told you, believe me when I'm lying. I'm lying.
Starting point is 00:04:54 So you're lying? Listen, don't ever listen to me most of the time because I'll just be lying. Okay. Okay? But you should be listening to me when I'm lying because when I'm lying, I'm probably telling the truth. But when I'm telling the truth, I'm probably lying. But you'll never know because I'm lying. Facts. Mm-hmm. Well, maybe not facts because you could be lying, I'm probably telling the truth. When I'm telling the truth, I'm probably lying, but you'll never know because I'm lying. Facts.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Well, maybe not facts because you could be lying. Whatever you want them to be. All right. Well, did you see the BET Awards last night? No. Okay. All right. I didn't.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I watched the Rap City. I was trying to watch the Rap City documentary, though. That's what I was really, really interested in, but I kept getting pulled in different directions around that time. But I want to really, really sit down and watch the rap city documentary because that rap city documentary looked incredible yeah i didn't i didn't get a chance to see the rap city documentary i kind of uh i lived it i think i dj'd like five six seven eight times down there kind of i was there i was you know i got this chance to see it and i that was all i had at that time when i was a kid growing up was watching rap City. And I got a chance to DJ several times.
Starting point is 00:05:46 So it was pretty good. Rap City is a cultural institution. And that's why I love documentaries because sometimes, not sometimes, all the times, those documentaries put cultural institutions in perspective. So even just watching what I saw some of last night, you know what I mean? It brought back a lot of different feelings and emotions. Even watching all of the different hosts because, you know, there might be people that think of a certain host. Yes. But we grew up in an era where we saw them all.
Starting point is 00:06:09 We saw Chris Thomas, the mayor. We saw Joe Clair. We saw Big Les. We saw Big Tigger. Yeah. You know, we saw Mad Lynx. Yeah. I mean, we saw Q4.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Mad Lynx was the last one. Q4.5. Q4.5. Mad Lynx was the last one, right? The last two. Q4.5 was the last one. I think Jay Nix did it for a little while. Jay Nix?
Starting point is 00:06:23 I remember that whole run. It's interesting. I think J. Nicks did it for a little while. J. Nicks? I remember that whole run. It's interesting. Yeah. I can't wait to get home and really get into that Rap City documentary.
Starting point is 00:06:32 All right. Well, Offset will be joining us today. He has an album that comes out this Friday, so we're going to be kicking it with Offset in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And also, today is Cardi B's birthday, so happy birthday, Bardi B. Look at that. Look at the synchronicity in that. The what?
Starting point is 00:06:45 The synchronicity. I don't even know if I used that word right. I don't know. Y'all know what I mean. I know what you mean. Offset's going to be here today, and it's Body's born day. That's right. That actually means nothing.
Starting point is 00:06:53 No. You know what I mean? But it means everything. All right. Well, let's start the show with some Body. It's her birthday, damn it. And we got front page news. Tess LeFigure will be joining us at the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Good morning, Tess. Good morning, DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God, and the Breakfast Club family. Before we jump right into it, I just want to tell people that flag football is being
Starting point is 00:07:18 considered for the 2028 Olympic Games in Los Angeles. So they're going to make flag football. They're thinking about making it an official sport. So just want tell people that all right now let's start right after what's going on with the republicans yeah house republicans wrapped up their candidate forum tuesday night where lawmakers heard from two current options to become speaker of the house as we know kevin mccarthy was oust as speaker of the house so right now the two candidates are representative jim jordan and steve cal. The two men had an opportunity to pitch themselves to their party members ahead of a secret ballot vote that's scheduled for today in an attempt to convince the Congress that they
Starting point is 00:07:53 can gather 217 votes needed to win the gavel. It looks like neither one of them were able to convince folks that they had, I guess, the muscle to do it. So we'll see how that works out today. Now, former Speaker McCarthy, who, as I mentioned, was moved from Speaker of the House, he has asked them not to nominate him as Speaker. But some folks said they still will be voting for him, despite him even saying literally, do not nominate me because I know I won't win. But I guess a few folks, you don't have a point to prove with that because they're still upset about McCarthy losing that position. When they asked, what are the chances that the house would select a new speaker by Wednesday representative Thomas Macy said I would say two percent and meanwhile House of Democrats did finish up their candidate form
Starting point is 00:08:34 last night in less than an hour nominating their leader Hakeem Jeffries is whoever they put in that position going to have actual power they're just going to be another puppet like McCarthy was yeah just it just we're going to see that's a great question Charlemagne uh Matt Gates who was really against McCarthy and you know set that deal up in the beginning to oust him he did say that whoever goes in this position he will not uh oust them um but you know we'll see we'll see it's still right now they still don't have any type of um consensus with that so it just depends on what deal they make. It feels like McCarthy was on 90-day probation since the first time he got that gig.
Starting point is 00:09:12 It's like he was under a probationary period since he started that job. Yeah, he was set up to fail right out the gate. That's why I took them over 15 rounds, just to nominate him. So we knew that was just a matter of time. A lot of folks say they're surprised he lasts even this long um but you know again right now no speaker of the house they need to vote on things like you know sending uh uh resources to israel a lot of stuff that still needs to happen on table don't forget we're still in the middle of a temporary government shutdown so uh that needs to have a new vote on that needs to happen in november so a lot of stuff
Starting point is 00:09:45 that congress needs to do and republics need to get it together since they are the majority all right well that is front page news thank you tez we'll see you in a couple of minutes everybody else get it off your chest phone lines working this morning yes they are 800 585-1051 somebody paid the bill yesterday 800-585-1051. Get it off your chest. You want to vent? You got some things you want to get off your chest? Call us up right now. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest. Wake up. Whether you're mad or blessed. It's time to get up and get something. Call up now.
Starting point is 00:10:23 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? This is Kalani. Hey, Kalani, get it off your chest, mama. I'm just so irritated this morning. Yesterday, I'm going to work and I get into a car accident. I call this dude who I've been messing with, you know, for a little while to come help me. And he basically breaks up with me through text message in that moment that I needed him. Dang. Wow. He been wanting to break up with you.
Starting point is 00:10:54 What did you ask him to do? Just come pick you up? I just called him and I was like, oh my gosh, I just got into an accident. It's like 730 in the morning right at that point because I'm going to work. I'm like, my mom's not answering. I need you. I know you're at work. Blah, blah, work like my mom's not answering you i know you at work blah blah blah and he's like okay get all the information and call me back i'm like okay off to the cops whatever whatever and i text him let him know i'm home are you gonna come over
Starting point is 00:11:17 and he's just like i think i need time to myself i think you should respect that because he realized in that moment that he didn't want to be your emergency contact. He don't want the responsibility. He thought about it. He was like, damn, she got into a bad accident and the first person she called when she couldn't get in touch with her mama was me. I don't want that responsibility. Yeah, that's kind of foul, mom. I'm sorry. How bad was the accident?
Starting point is 00:11:38 My car is like so messed up. So I'll be taking Lyft or Uber for like another week. want like two thousand dollars to fix the front of the car or maybe he feel like he don't want you to ask him for money or he don't want to drive you to work every day too but i never that's the thing i never asked him for money i never asked him for anything like we just have like a cool we started off as co-workers so we just have like a cool relationship like that i think you should be happy it just grew
Starting point is 00:12:04 into something more you should be happy It just grew into something more You should be happy that you dodged his bullet You know what I mean He's clearly showing that you know he doesn't He's not ready for what you might be ready for right now So go enjoy the holidays Sorry mama It still hurts you know
Starting point is 00:12:18 But thank you guys for answering I've been listening to y'all forever Thank you And listen the fall just started You still got time to find you a little boo for the fall. I'm going to try. Okay. Yep.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Hey, what's up, Airbnb? What's up, Tribe? What's up, Charlamagne? Tribe, what up, sis? I'm doing good. Listen, I heard one of the girls was looking for me yesterday, but I heard she's not there today. Oh, Jason Lee?
Starting point is 00:12:42 He asked about you yesterday. Yeah, he did. I was somewhere late up with somebody's husband, eating up all these snacks in the house. Where you at, Jason? Oh, no way, Jason Lee. I didn't know Jason wasn't coming this morning. That's crazy that if y'all wanted an English celebrity to come host this week, y'all could have called me.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Jesus, what's wrong with you and Jason? What happened? What's the smoke for? I don't like the way he calling me. Where did they do that, guys? My name is Trap, a.k.a. Twin. Miss Lee, just letting you know. What is the problem, Trap?
Starting point is 00:13:09 Why you just call up here? I don't get it. Why you call up here just being sassy with Jason Lee? Because Jason Lee was being sassy yesterday. I don't remember. I missed it. Yeah, he was asking about me. He was like, where that gay dude at?
Starting point is 00:13:20 First of all, that's not my name. Oh, okay. But anyway, I'll call her. You're not the only gay dude in America. I know, but he said we're that gay dude trash. Yep. Okay. But anyway, OVO Eli. I'm calling to stand
Starting point is 00:13:34 up for him today because Charlamagne, I don't like how you treated him last week by saying he was on Drifted Glimpsey. And you know what? I'm on Cole's Pole. And Eli, we are connected. It's fine. I stand with you. If you're going to be a stand for your favorite artist, stand for your favorite artist. You should release Cole's pole, and Eli needs to release Drizzy's glizzy.
Starting point is 00:13:54 You know what's crazy? I think that all of these negative reactions that people are having to Drake's album, even though I think that it's unfair, I think these negative reactions, they've gotten to Eli. He ain't been here all week. I think it's unfair. I think these negative reactions, they've gotten to Eli. He ain't been here all week. I think it's fake because I actually was in New York and I listened to the album, the whole ride up there and the whole ride back.
Starting point is 00:14:12 It's not as bad as the internet is making it. No, no, not at all. It's not as bad as the internet making this scene. It's really not. No. All right, y'all. All right, man. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:14:21 What? Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Ray, Ray, Ray.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Yo, Charlamagne. Envy, what up? Are we live? This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now. We'll tell you what it is.
Starting point is 00:14:46 We live. Hello, who's this? Yo, yo, this is Marcus from Tampa, Florida. Marcus from Tampa, Florida. What up? Get it off your chest, brother. Hey, real quick. Charlemagne, you got to take it easy on Florida, my guy.
Starting point is 00:15:00 You always coming for us, but you never talk about the Bronx. You say the craziest people come from Florida and the Bronx, but I haven't heard you say anything about the Bronx in a good, good little minute. The segment's always dedicated to us. What's going on, man? That's because Florida always outshines everybody when it comes to having the craziest stories. Like right now, I haven't even looked at my donkeys yet, but automatically I'm looking at some headlines.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Florida woman skips $160 Walmart bill, claims security guard tried to holler at her. Florida man punches, spits on customer in wheelchair at McDonald's after heated argument. Florida man fatally stabbed brother's pal after nobody shared weed with him. What you want me to do, man? What you want me to do? Hey, you want to know the answer to that? What? Everybody moving here.
Starting point is 00:15:44 No. All these people coming from different parts of the region and world. This is a retirement state. I mean, we got no taxes. The weather's great. It's a tourist attraction. Everybody started coming here. It's the water.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Oh, man, come on. Most of these people ain't never committed a crime until they get to Florida. And they drink some of that goddamn Florida water, and then they turn in the gunplay. Goodbye, Marcus. Goodbye, Marcus. Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Chris.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Chris, what up? Get it off your chest, Chris. Hey, what's up, man? I just want to say, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Charlemagne? 843, what's happening? I'm right here, my brother. Hey, I want to tell you, man, I'm disappointed in you, man. You were an infant, really cut.
Starting point is 00:16:27 I feel like I hear all this great talk this week. You know, shout out to OVO, Eli, Lil 40, Tub, all them guys, but what about Rod Wave? Y'all ain't say nothing about Rod Wave when he dropped. You right. Rod Wave went number one. You know what I'm saying? Rod Wave selling out arenas.
Starting point is 00:16:44 You right. By himself, he headlining, but I don't hear nothing Rod Wave went number one. You know what I'm saying? Rod Wave selling out arenas by himself. He headlining. But I don't hear nothing about Rod Wave. You absolutely right. I read on Billboard now, he's the second artist behind Taylor Swift to get number one consecutively 2021, 22, and 23. But no talk about Rod Wave. You absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Salute to Rod Wave. We got to change that now. We got to change that. Well, you're doing it right now. When you write, you write, though. Salute to Rod Wave. We got to change that now. We got to change that. Well, you're doing it right now. When you write, you write, though. Salute to Rod Wave and that nostalgia album. Rod Wave definitely doing his thing. Yeah, y'all got to start playing.
Starting point is 00:17:13 I know that y'all got the system. Y'all play what y'all got to play, this and that. But at least talk about Rod. Man, Rod from Florida. I'm from Florida. We represent Florida, man, and South. And Charlamagne and I, I just expect it more from you from the South. You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:17:26 That's right. Blame it, Charlamagne. Rod Wave and Nick Grant dropped a real great project. We should be playing. We should give Fight the Feeling some spins on the radio. That's off the Nostalgia album. You're absolutely right. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:17:38 All right. Well, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, you can hit us up. Now, we got your rumors. When we come back, we got to talk the BET Awards. The BET Hip Hop Awards were on last night. If you missed it, well, we'll fill you
Starting point is 00:17:50 in. Who performed, who won what, and all that. So don't go anywhere. It's The Breakfast Club on BET. The Breakfast Club. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her
Starting point is 00:18:14 dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves, for self-preservation and protection. It was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary?
Starting point is 00:19:04 Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe own country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Oh my God. What is that? Bullets, bullet holes. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast.
Starting point is 00:19:51 That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs,
Starting point is 00:20:11 the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, James Brown, B.B. King, Miriam Akiba. I shook up the world. James Brown said, say it loud. And Akiba said, I'm black and I'm proud. Black boxing stars and black music royalty together in the heart of Zaire, Africa. Three days of music and then the boxing event. What was going on in the world at the time made this fight as important that anything else is going on on the planet. My grandfather laid on the ropes and let George Foreman basically just punch himself out.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Welcome to Rumble, the story of a world in transformation. The 60s and prior to that, you couldn't call a person black. And how we arrived at this peak moment. I don't have to be what you want me to be. We all came from the continent of Africa. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hola, mi gente. It's Honey German, and I'm bringing you Gracias, Come Again, the podcast where we dive deep into the world of Latin culture, Thank you. We're talking real conversations with our Latin stars, from actors and artists to musicians and creators, sharing their stories, struggles, and successes.
Starting point is 00:22:28 You know it's going to be filled with chisme laughs and all the vibes that you love. Each week, we'll explore everything from music and pop culture to deeper topics like identity, community, and breaking down barriers in all sorts of industries. Don't miss out on the fun, El Te Caliente, and life stories. Join me for Gracias Come Again, a podcast by Honey German, where we get into todo lo actual y viral. Listen to Gracias Come Again on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:22:54 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's D, J, N, V, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors let's talk to bet hip-hop awards through my head sit through my room i had to call out a name or you
Starting point is 00:23:11 gossiping or you chatty i'm gossiping this is the rumor report i mean i guess we're on the breakfast club this is where the tea spills right right now last night of course was the 2023 bet hip-hop awards hosted by fat joe Salute to Joe Crack. Drop on the Clues Bonds with Joe Crack. Now, the show started off with DaBaby. DaBaby started off with a lot of energy. We actually seen that because we were there and DaBaby killed it. We saw the rehearsals.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Well, I seen it because I was, remember, I came out and actually seen it. Oh, you stayed? I stayed for a little bit, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, I stayed for a little bit. I actually seen DaBaby perform and and yeah, he killed it. He also brought out Sexy Red. He brought out Manny Fresh and Juvenile.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I can't wait until Sexy Red hits the stage and does Rich Baby Daddy off that Drake album. Rich Baby Daddy? That song hard. I don't care what y'all say. I told you you're going to love that song. Now, also, which was pretty dope, Jermaine Dupri. They celebrated the 30th anniversary of so so deaf so uh jermaine dupree brought out a bunch of artists i'm sure he started with welcome
Starting point is 00:24:10 to atlanta right no he started off with jump so he actually produced jump on the machine no no he actually did it live oh he did it live and then he started off with jump he did the first verse and then he brought out ludacris for welcome to Atlanta. Okay. Y'all be playing with JD. Diddy gonna catch hell with JD in the verses. I don't care what y'all say. I ain't saying that JD will beat, watch Diddy in any way, shape, or form. I'm just saying, don't act like Jermaine Dupri is some pushover. That's right.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Okay? He also brought out Lil Jon. He brought out Nelly. He brought out Chingy. And he brought out the brat. The brat has so much energy. She killed it. You know, she recently had a baby, too.
Starting point is 00:24:46 So that was dope. And that's just JD's hip-hop bag. You know what I'm saying? The R&B bag is where it really gets spicy. He also brought out Bow Wow, which was good to hear. It seems like they're not beefing because Bow Wow came out. All right. So with the Bow Wow, I'm glad he's coming to his senses on that.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Because the reality is, you know, Bow Wow's legacy is forever tied to jermaine of course period of course i'm saying there's nothing bow wow can do to shake that you know i mean jermaine dupree is the reason that we know the bow wow that we knew that's right i mean and like i said bone crusher came out and also the franchise boys uh and then also of course everybody always talks about the ciphers so the cyphers uh they split it into three different cyphers one cypher was timberland one cypher was swiss beats uh so let's just go through some of the cyphers simba was part of swiss beats cypher where swiss beats they rapped over swiss beats produced records dropping a clue to bounce the symbol super lyricist top
Starting point is 00:25:42 tier mc we don't just use the that term mc lightly you know there's a lot of rappers out there not too many mcs simba is a super mc and a great human cassidy also was an on swiss beast uh side and he killed it as well i also got to go to the og he was uh rapping on timberland side the og bun b body i need every single one of you youngins to know with the exception of simba, Bun B bodied you all. Now Bun B definitely killed it. Drop one of Clues Bombs for the OG Bun B. He bodied you all.
Starting point is 00:26:12 We got two more clips and also Mexican OT killed it as well. Okay, I forgot to add Mexican OT to that list of people who Bun B didn't body. Okay. Mexican OT hard. Drop one of Clues Bombs for Mexican OT. Don't know the guy. Just know his music. He's dope.
Starting point is 00:26:26 And lastly, I just got... What about the awards, man? Ain't no awards given out. It wasn't BET. We gotta talk about the awards. Let's talk about some of the performances. Also, we gotta talk about Marley Moore. Marley Moore, a legendary producer and DJ from Queens.
Starting point is 00:26:37 He produced for everybody from Biggie to... He did a Runaway Girl for LL Cool J. He got the I am hip hop award This started out as a dream at 41 17 Vernon Boulevard Long Island City Queens bridge My window faced Manhattan so that's all I could look at and wonder what's happening them lights over there So I want to be there. I had some people inspiring me in my life. I mentioned them in the bridge It was T-Tom,
Starting point is 00:27:05 Jappy Jap, Larry La, and Gas, but they wasn't the ones that put me on. When I got with Mr. Magic through Mr. Dr. Bob Lee, Shaheen's father, and my building brought me to Mr. Magic, and we changed the world, being the first rap show on the radio back in new york and wbls i was the first hip-hop dj to rock live on the radio and then i brought sample into hip-hop that changed my world salute to uh molly ma we probably wouldn't be here without him no that is that is mr magic he laid the foundation for hip-hop radio. That is a fact. Yep. And then for some of the award winners, Hip-Hop Artist of the Year, congratulations to Kendrick Lamar. He won that.
Starting point is 00:27:50 No debate there. Hip-Hop Album of the Year, Drake and 21 Savage won that. I don't really have any debate about that. Who's in the category? Megan Thee Stallion, Lil Uzi Vert, Jack Harlow, Metro Boomin, Khaled, Koi Larray. Oh, yeah. Drake and 21. Lil Uzi Vert One song of the year
Starting point is 00:28:07 I Wanna Rock Yep I Wanna Rock I'm not mad at that And best hip hop platform Carisha Please We gotta stop Salute to Carisha
Starting point is 00:28:15 Love Young Miami to death But come on now Two years in a row Yes Well last year she tied With Drink Champs I got mad love for Carisha But you got platforms
Starting point is 00:28:23 That come out daily And you got platforms That come out weekly You know like the million dollars worth of games and the drink champs you know joe budden like come on now come on caricia i love caricia please but was that sponsored by daily on i don't know was daily on the sponsor of the bt hip-hop awards i don't know and also lastly salute lastly, salute to Ice Spice. Salute to you, Carisha. Drop on the clues bombs for Carisha. Love her.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I love what she does. But two years in a row, come on now. And salute to Ice Spice. This was the only award I seen, actually. She won Best Breakthrough Hip Hop Artist. That's the only award that I seen last night, and she wasn't there for it. But congratulations to Ice Spice. And that is your rumor report.
Starting point is 00:29:04 By the way, if Carisha, please, did come out weekly weekly i wouldn't have no problem with it you know what i'm saying because it is that good when she drops right but i just don't see enough of it for her to win hip hop platform of the year two years in a row last year she tied with drink champ right so i ask again was daily on a sponsor of the bt hip Awards. When we come back, we got front page news. But clearly it's not rigged because the Breakfast Club would have won. Because we're on BET right now. Maybe. Tesla and Figaro has front page news when we come back.
Starting point is 00:29:35 And Offset will be joining us. It's the Breakfast Local Board. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now let's get in some front page news.
Starting point is 00:29:49 What up, Tiz? What's going on, DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. Peace, Tiz. Now let's talk about the brother, Hughes Van Ellis. Uncle Red. Yep, Uncle Red, one of the last known survivors of the Tulsa Race Massacre, has passed away at 102. I know I was certain of live 102 years.
Starting point is 00:30:05 That's a blessing. His grandnephew, Ike Howard, said that he died waiting on justice. Now, 1921, Ellis was just a few months old when the Tulsa then thriving Greenwood District, known as Black Wall Street, was destroyed by a white mob during a massacre that left an estimated 300 black people dead in businesses and homes burned to the ground. Ellis and his loved ones were forced to leave behind their home in a lifetime of opportunities. Mr. Ellis said earlier this year that he lost 102 years and he didn't want anybody else to lose that. Here's what he said on The Breakfast Club. Uncle Red, do you have real hope and faith that the U.S. government will ever compensate you for what happened?
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yes, I'm convinced though. Really? Yeah. You've been alive way longer than for what happened? Yes, I think so. Really? Yeah. You've been alive way longer than me, so why do you believe in the white man, but I don't? I believe it's some good people and bad people. In World War II, he was in Burma. Burma, also in Burma. All-black battalion.
Starting point is 00:31:00 All-black. Shot down enemy aircraft. They were thought to be all killed, but most of his troops survived because they was fighting for their life. How many times have you bombed, Uncle Red? I've bombed twice. Bombed when I was five months old.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Bombed when I was 20-something years old. I didn't think it ever happened in my life, but it did. Uncle Red was a baby. I'm glad I survived all of that. I ain't survival. Man, salute to Uncle Red. He's lived I'm glad I survived all of that. I ain't a survivor. Man, salute to Uncle Red. He lived a long, beautiful life.
Starting point is 00:31:29 And it's a damn shame America never gave that brother or any of the other Tulsa race massacre survivors justice. And it was a privilege and honor to have him in Queen Viola Fletcher on Breakfast Club earlier this year. That was just a few months ago. A few months ago. You know what I mean? And you hear this brother still sitting here, still having faith in this government to do the right thing.
Starting point is 00:31:48 That's right. So, you know, his, what was it, he said his nephew? His grandchild? Yes. His nephew. His nephew is absolutely right. Like, you know, clearly he died, you know, still holding out for justice. That's right.
Starting point is 00:31:58 You know? And Ms. Fletcher and Ms. Randall are still alive. Ms. Fletcher is 109. Ms. Randall is 108. Those are the last two known survivors of the 1921 Tulsa race massacre. And again, you know, they have been, like you mentioned, all three of them have been fighting for reparations for destruction. And this is, you know, a case that people always, you know, you can't dispute this because they literally were alive at the time. You know, when you have the conversation about reparations, say, oh, you know, those people have passed away.
Starting point is 00:32:24 They're no longer here. No, they literally are still alive at the time and still fighting for reparations. So, yes, I have a theory. And this is just my dirt road country logic kicking in. But I have a theory that God let those three Tulsa race, those Tulsa race massacre survivors, Queen Viola Fletcher and Leslie Randall and Uncle Red, be here all of this time to continue to give America the chance, the opportunity to do what's right.
Starting point is 00:32:53 You know what I mean? To fix some of the karma, the negative karma that they put out there into the world, and they still haven't figured it out. They still haven't done it. These people have been here for almost 110 years. That's right. And they still ain't done right by them.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And that's why no good gonna come to this country until they do right by people like the survivors of the Tulsa Race Massacre. That's right. Well, thank you, Tez. Make sure you subscribe
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Starting point is 00:33:32 His new album comes out this Friday. So we're going to kick it with Offset. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God.
Starting point is 00:33:44 We have a special guest in the building. His album comes out this Friday, ladies and gentlemen, Offset. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Welcome back, brother. How you feeling, man? How's everything? I feel good, man. Blessed, man.
Starting point is 00:33:52 I'm in a good spirit. In a good spirit? Yes, sir. So now, second album. This is the sophomore album. Set it off. Why did it take so long, the first thing people would say? It's been a while.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Why it took so long? A lot of things. You know, Lost My Brother is the main reason. say it's been a while it's been a while why too so long a lot of things you know lost my brother is is is the main reason i was gonna drop last year i think around march i got out of a creative space like after that four minute i had to sit down for a minute and like get my mama and pray and get get myself together also i just wanted to perfect the craft i didn't want to i wanted to make sure that i that i dropped in it and it counted. Especially coming out of the group and stuff like that. I wanted to make sure everything was aligned.
Starting point is 00:34:28 I didn't want no record sounding the same. I didn't want me sounding the same. Just being hard on myself, critiquing myself on the music. Now, with your brother Quavo, we've seen you guys perform at the awards show, right? Yeah. What was that initial call like when they called you guys and asked you guys to do it? I was in Paris doing Fashion Week. They called and I wasn't sure at the time.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Because, you know, it's running away from the reality. You know what I'm saying? You know, and I had talked to Pharrell. We were sitting at a show and I was telling him like, man, I don't know if I should do it because it just ain't going to be right. And I feel like I'm scared it's going to put me back in that moment and he was like nah you got to do that for the world and for him
Starting point is 00:35:08 like in y'all legacy y'all one of the biggest group ever in hip hop and also like he want that bro he was like you need that energy you and your brother
Starting point is 00:35:18 rocking that stage again even if it's for the last time or whatever and this is that where he's like even if it's for the last time or whatever he don't really know
Starting point is 00:35:24 what's going on but it's going to be a cleans whatever, like, and this is that where he's like, even if it's for the last time or whatever, he don't really know what's going on. But it's going to be a cleanser for both of y'all. Was it? Yeah, it was. I swear it was. It was, it was, it was, it felt like at first before I did it, I was still like, because it reminds, you know, it's a reminder. But after we did it, I just felt, I did feel good about it. Like, closed the chapter on the right way.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Like, on a big way. Unity, love, and like, giving to the people also. What was it like before that? Because I know that everybody talks about, I guess y'all got into something backstage somewhere. It was a video where everybody heard Cardi yelling, like, y'all both wrong. So what was it like before that moment?
Starting point is 00:35:58 Oh, before what? Before y'all got on stage, like... Oh, no, we were together, man. Like, that shit is a hard pill to swallow. Like, your bro missing. All that other shit go out the window. You know what I'm saying? It's like family love everything.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Let's do this right. More than anything. Because when you go into something with the wrong energy, you ain't going to do it right. You know what I'm saying? You went into it with the right energy. And that's my brother, so... What's your relationship now with Quavo? That's my brother at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:36:22 We good, bro. We just with each other in Paris. We be talking because we be going through little emotions. And it don't be for the public. That's the thing. Like, when it's like this, it don't be everything. And for the public to be kiki-ing and it's all love. At the end of the day, we lost a brother.
Starting point is 00:36:35 You know, they want to see y'all cry on Instagram. Yeah. That's what they want, you know? Not going to get it from me. You think y'all ever make music together? Not even just as Migos, but just as Set and Quavo? I think so. I think a lot of fans were hoping that there was maybe lost takeoff verses me you think y'all ever make music together not even just as migos but just as set in quavo i think so i think a lot of fans was were hoping that there was maybe lost takeoff verses or lost migos
Starting point is 00:36:50 records and that they would get that one more migos album but that doesn't seem like that's gonna happen nah that ain't fair to put that pressure on us either after losing brother man like maybe you know i'm saying the future right now I just don't see it. It's like hard for me hearing our songs sometimes in the club, bro. And people, I got to smile in my face, but that s*** like take verse, come on, like text me every single time. So it's like, I don't see us doing that. Now, I can imagine because to us, it's just a verse. But to you, it's like you probably think about the moment y'all recorded this. The moment we made the song.
Starting point is 00:37:20 The day, yeah. It put me in that bed every time. I was just in Starlet the other night. And they playing Freak No More And his verse come on I'm like throwing money His verse come on
Starting point is 00:37:29 It just like Slowed me up real quick So Now what's the difference Between this album Set It Off And Father of Four Okay Father of Four
Starting point is 00:37:37 Was like I feel like I was getting More personal About who I was My story of going to jail Having kids young The story of my wife, my letter to my wife.
Starting point is 00:37:47 I'm just in a, but this album is more like, the music-wise, it's like more fun. I did all the new producers, so I didn't really, except for Metro and Southside, I didn't really work,
Starting point is 00:37:57 all the producers I worked with on this is like new producers I never worked with because I didn't want to create the same sound because I feel like artists now, like, as an artist, sometimes, like, you just get stuck in your ways, and I let a lot of, I worked with A I didn't want to create the same sign because I feel like artists now like as an artist Sometimes like you just give you stuck in your ways and I let a lot of I worked with an artist time I know a lot of people and our game but the G my and I was fire So she was able to bring me different producers that I never heard of and different sounds and give me
Starting point is 00:38:18 Critiquing me on the music like nah No more sign to make the make sound like number 10 for me I was happy because like usually I ain't going for that you know I ain't nobody to do nothing but I understand like change the game change the sound be changing and you just got to change with it or you're gonna get left is it difficult with which you do a music right because you are a husband your father five but yet you still in the club so you know what people want to hear you know people in the club ain't married you know the people might not have some kids so when you do your music
Starting point is 00:38:47 Do you say well? I gotta put myself in their situation to take myself out from the husband to take myself out being the father five cuz you didn't Own it on this album. You don't knock off a lot of a lot of chicks on this All these women all say and you're married man That's what I got a real wife like that she understands like we and i gotta be relatable and especially like i age like the average person ain't married and like people sometimes people i can see it like you let your wife dress like this and you let her i'm very secure about mine so we ain't letting no controlling like don't do this or i'm not telling her don't do a feature with that because it's just like this this this they'll interrupt the love i feel like when you go to doing that because then
Starting point is 00:39:28 it's like damn i want to be this person i got to talk to all these people all these fans and they got to relate to me but they can't relate to me if i'm standing in one lane so i'm just blessed to have a good wife what about the people who those same kids that love your personal life they love you and cardi together as a couple. And they follow y'all on social media and see all of that. And they like, damn, they might want to hear that reflected in the music. Because I know people got really excited when they heard y'all doing an album together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Or EP or whatever it was. They can't get mad at me because I'm not going to tell her. You can't say shaking your ass or like you're having a good time. Girls want to feel that. Them bars she be saying. But I guess, you know, too, when Cardi talks about that, I guess we all automatically assume when she says she's shaking ass, it's shaking ass for her husband. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:11 Yeah, for sure. It's like she's doing it for set. But, you know what I mean? For you, when I heard, I'm not going to, I'm like, oh, he's putting his mind frame on somebody that's in the club, not himself. Yeah, I got you, bro, because it's like, it's more of bros doing that than there's people that's married. Facts.
Starting point is 00:40:27 These are facts. These are facts. So I just still got to be relatable to them. They got to still feel like, oh, Sid ain't on our old. Like Sid ain't got married. We don't even understand him no more. Then it's the worst. Then there's no coming back from that.
Starting point is 00:40:40 All right, we got more with Offset when we come back. Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Char back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Offset.
Starting point is 00:40:50 His album is out this Friday. Charlamagne? First song on the album, you say you knew you was the one since you left the group. I think that was the line. Mm-hmm. What did that line mean to you? So how do you know about that? Well, like, you know, I went through some things I can't really speak on.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I stepped out of the box and, like, had to get my shit together on the business side of things. After that, the freedom and being able to be in control of my creative and being able to do that was like, now I can show you who I am. If you notice, now people kind of see I got a personality. I feel like that was kind of bottled in when everything was all as one. Because it wasn't really about me. It was about us. This album is about me. How important was hip-hop growing up to you because i know you got roots in new york i know you got roots in the land i know you got roots a little bit everywhere i'd be
Starting point is 00:41:32 sitting set with people like how do you know him like so you know talk about your roots and and what hip-hop means to you because you sample a lot of that on this album uh hip-hop man meaning me like man growing up is like the superheroes you know i'm saying to me because i felt like it was so out of reach and also i felt like there was like saving the world with the music and like you know seeing like cash money master p because i'm from the south under that like like outcast you know we from atlanta so we might not even listen to it i might not get on jay-z towers in high towers in high school you from saying I might ain't know him through middle school I knew go out I knew Gucci and I knew Jeezy I knew under 2000 new future it's like our neighborhood heroes and like me I feel like in
Starting point is 00:42:13 general with music you got to know your roots and pay respect to it to like I watched the James Browns I'll be watching like how they would dress or how they stay so it would be or sometimes I go watch a rock and roll I'm only cool some I go watch them stay stay said to get a like a like a like a idea even on stage and like cuz I feel like you it always rotate but you could just do it better in a better way but one of the things you say throughout the album is you keep referencing blame it on set that's a dope record too by the way to blame it on set record what are some of the things you think folks blame you for?
Starting point is 00:42:46 No, it's not like people blame me for it. It's like me talking to myself almost. Everything you went through is because of you. It's like taking responsibility. Everything you went through is because of you. Anytime anything happens, it's on you. That's all it was. It wasn't like a specific, like, y'all blaming me. No, it was just like taking time to be a man.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Being a man, yeah. Accountability, like, accountability for all actions. People were mad at you a couple of weeks ago because you did that interview with, what's her name, Bobby? They weren't mad at me. I feel like they was. They smoked that interview. I feel like they was f***ing with me. When I say they were mad at you, that you even gave her an opportunity to interview you.
Starting point is 00:43:22 You know what I mean? You know, people were saying, well, why would you give that girl an opportunity and not somebody from the culture? Reached out, I did my research, and I was like, I'm open to do it because I don't like doing interviews at all. I was like, I'm open to doing it. I'm on the way.
Starting point is 00:43:36 And I felt like it was kind of comical. It's kind of funny. It's kind of funny to me. It wasn't like I wasn't taking that shit offensive. You just got to be on your toes when you're doing it. No, she needed to be on her toes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She needed that.
Starting point is 00:43:47 She needed that. You know what I'm saying? And also like, I'm doing this for the brothers. You ain't finna catch me slipping on this show and be down talking to me and you like,
Starting point is 00:43:55 you just coming up off TikTok. It's all love though. But she cool, man. I don't know. I felt like a lot of people did take a lot of comedy out of it. It was supposed to be funny, man.
Starting point is 00:44:05 You told us you needed some seasoning. Yeah, she do. She did need a little bit of seasoning. A little bit of seasoning. But it's cool, though, man. Ain't no issues or nothing. But I feel like a lot of people was mad at her. But that's how she do the interviews.
Starting point is 00:44:16 I think I brought it to her world more. There's a lot of people like, why does she? They was kind of taking it as she was being disrespectful. She wasn't. She just, I think that's the way she got On mm-hmm. You know I hear I hear you channel a lot in this album. I hear a lot of project pack Yeah, were you were you listening to a lot of pack three six and project pay? Yeah, man Hey, they I'm saying it's like the underground music and to come to and then they went underground and be shot
Starting point is 00:44:40 Juicy J man here play the producer. He ain't taxed me on the records. He didn't tax you. Oh, he did production on it. Nah, you get certain s*** you gotta talk to Juicy J about. He ain't do production and service, you gotta holla at Juicy J. Oh, so when you just
Starting point is 00:44:54 using that flow. But you gotta think the sample on Jealousy is Juicy J. Yes, absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So, and then it's
Starting point is 00:45:00 the South music, man. It's just always something about the South music to me even growing up. Just always felt like we was s*** that was relatable to my neighborhood. You from down music, man. It's just always something about the South music to me, even growing up. Just always felt like we was just relatable to our neighborhood. You from down there, man. Absolutely. Now, we had Cardi up here, and we were talking about your marriage and everything.
Starting point is 00:45:13 And she was like, sometimes it's difficult not to keep things off social, right? Like the one time, y'all always argue on social media. Y'all never just say, you know what, I'm going to put the phone down and call her. She's crazy, man. You crazy, too. You know what, you married a woman from the Bronx. The craziest her. She's crazy, man. You crazy, too. You know what? You married a woman from the Bronx. The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida, Seth.
Starting point is 00:45:29 You got to know that. Yeah, I've learned it. I learned it so far. It's just like, man, the hate fan base, man, sometimes be like trying to like kill. So then sometimes you got to like, I feel like I got to protect her. You know what I'm saying? I've made mistakes. You dig what I'm saying? So those made mistakes. You dig what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:45:45 So those mistakes make me continue to have to protect her as a man. It don't just go away. So like, I just hate that because it's like, we be good, bro. Living a life like it's golden. We got beautiful kids. We don't bother nobody. But you know how I be. Whack, dog.
Starting point is 00:45:58 But what about when you posted that your wife cheated? That's causing turmoil in the house. Nah, it's calming her ass down. Don't play with but then the next day they hold their hands together it was count it was everybody know it was captain she was like that she was like he was playing he was lying sometimes go in too much on me man like and it makes sense so i didn't want people to think like she was thinking it's real so it was just a little reverse on no car that was she said she said you threatened her you said if you don't stop i'm gonna get online and say you cheated yeah because that's the thing she gotta make her she got like she still somebody too so like when they be doing it like it'd be like making her seem like she a sucker so then she gotta but then this time
Starting point is 00:46:37 when she did she kind of alive and i'm like oh slow that down turn that down baby oh don't do me like hey willing to blow up the whole house we all going down we slow that down, baby. Oh, don't do me like, hey. Set willing to blow up the whole house. I'm going to blow up the whole house. We all going down. We all going down. Five, four, three, two, one. It's over. Real. But we turn that into fun, though.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Six years strong, man. Six years strong. Congratulations. Why didn't Playboi Carti clear the song for them? That's a rumor online. Is that true? Yeah, it's true. Shout out to my boy, man.
Starting point is 00:47:03 See, because I don't get into it with my music. Sometimes people be going through their own. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to bro, though, man. He should have cleared up Smash, though. I ain't going to count. But be like that. I don't get mad at folks for like that, because sometimes people be going through their own.
Starting point is 00:47:18 But they might not. I don't know. It's all love, though. It's my little bro. All right, we got more with Offset when we come back. Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hey, guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities,
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Starting point is 00:50:13 and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8th, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same
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Starting point is 00:51:10 with a trip down memory lane and back to Melrose Place. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hola, mi gente. We'll see you next time on the Latin Podcast. and celebrities, artists, and culture shifters, this is the podcast for you. We're talking real conversations with our Latin stars, from actors and artists to musicians and creators, sharing their stories, struggles, and successes. You know it's going to be filled with chisme laughs and all the vibes that you love. Each week, we'll explore everything,
Starting point is 00:51:57 from music and pop culture, to deeper topics like identity, community, and breaking down barriers in all sorts of industries. Don't miss out on the fun, el té caliente, and life stories. Join me for Gracias Come Again, a podcast by Honey German, where we get into todo lo actual y viral. Listen to Gracias Come Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Offset. podcast. I ain't got no nothing for you. Because they were saying they reached out to see if you wanted the press charge. Man, please. I'll never do no lame ass shit like that. I'm going to keep it discreet. Oh, that's dope. Growing up, man. I don't even want to bring it up because I don't want people to like. But I just laugh at shit like that.
Starting point is 00:52:55 I got real money. I'm handling real business. I'm on the way to Coach Prime, man. On the jet. I'm 30 years old, bro. I'm growing to sell. And I'm just too old to participate like the little damn you had seen was cause i'm a grown man also like i'm saying it's a respect
Starting point is 00:53:13 thing brother but you threatening my wife bro i'm not playing those games i hate when men say anything about my wife because it's like but you a man don't speak on my wife bro i don't care how people think like oh why you why you why man this is my wife mother my kids man me and disrespecting the wife i see you ain't playing by choice either yeah you want you want to box in their mouth i'm gonna get on your yeah we're gonna make yeah box your mouth all that plan to tweak all the trying to twinkle your toes and kick your feet and work all that yeah that was now we had Cardi up here
Starting point is 00:53:47 and she you know she talked about how much she supports you and was you know riding for you loving your music but now let me ask you a question
Starting point is 00:53:53 are we gonna get a Cardi second Cardi album anytime soon man she said she announced it I thought I saw her I thought I saw her announce it recently
Starting point is 00:53:58 no she ain't announced nothing she said maybe first quarter she said 2024 she said 2024 is it done we almost there we almost there? We almost there.
Starting point is 00:54:08 But y'all, there's rumors that y'all was working on the joint album together too though. Yeah, after hers. You think that would be the album? Like the way you just expressed love for your wife and why you decided to be with her, you think we'll get that in music on that project? For sure. Okay. Then a tour. Then a tour.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Oh, y'all definitely having another baby after the tour. That's definitely happening. She said she wanted more, right? She said she wanted more when she was up here. Yeah, I seen her say that up here, man. You don't want no more? Father 6. Y'all gonna get me beat up.
Starting point is 00:54:38 College expensive. What? I know. Father 6. Next album. How many you got? Six. I'm done.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Done, done. I got four, but I'm done. I'm done, done, done. I got two in college right now. College is expensive. College is waxing that ass. That's right. Pause.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Let's get to it. I do want to ask one question. What have you learned from Takeoff's passing? I'm still learning. I don't even know what to say the lesson is just pain like it ain't really you're trying to run from there have you done anything to deal with that grief have you like sat down with somebody i'll be feeling like sitting down with people like maybe i ain't found the right person but i don't feel like sometimes people like can't relate that's why culturally
Starting point is 00:55:25 competent therapists and psychiatrists and grief counselors are very important you gotta yes you gotta have somebody who's from it to understand it i feel like sometimes in them job spaces they're not giving people who have maybe have a record or and those are the people you need to have in the office because they're gonna they've been through they can really relate to black people i like i feel like the therapy thing don't really be for black folks a lot of times because every person I've ever seen, they like took it the right way. Everything was good on paper. Everything is good.
Starting point is 00:55:55 The college, da-da-da-da. It ain't like a wallow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who live in the street who selling dope right now with their gun. Listen to him way before they'll listen to somebody that look like them but just can't
Starting point is 00:56:08 trying to tell them how to do it. Can't relate. See, I ask questions back. I sit down with somebody and I'm going to ask you your questions back. So have you ever
Starting point is 00:56:14 da-da-da-da-da? And if it ain't, it's a waste of time. Well, we appreciate you. The album comes out this Friday. Set it off. You want to play it? I got to ask you something.
Starting point is 00:56:21 What was your favorite song? What did you feel like? I like Say My Grace. I like Worth worth it because i just i'm from that era so i like you kind of catching the buster flow which was different i like blame it on set i like the one where you had the project pat flow um the first song on the album hard on the river yeah that's when you said i'm the one yeah that's hard i don't know i gotta listen to it again i only got to listen to it one time let's do it one time. I wanted to bring rap, like rapping on the song,
Starting point is 00:56:47 but I feel like it's a lot of auto-tune, a lot of like. I got melodies on it, of course, but like. Your voice don't need it, though. You got to get to the rapping. But your voice so distinct. You don't need the auto-tune in that. Oh, the joint with Travis? That's what I said.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Say My Grace. Say My Grace. Oh, okay. Say My Grace. All right, all right. Yeah, that's hard. That's hard. We got the video.
Starting point is 00:57:02 We shot that in Thailand, too. Y'all can't wait to see that. Hard. What does success look like for Offset? The music connecting to the people. I'm not, you know, how we came in the game. I hate how everything is clocked now. Like, the number first is.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Because then that gives people opinions already immediately that they ain't even chatting to us. So me, I'm just trying to connect musically with these people. Like you said, identify Offset's sound like I did on Ric Flair. That was like, oh, bro, we got that. It's proven. And showing my creativity. You see my album cover falling from the sky upside down, but I'm still on top.
Starting point is 00:57:38 It's like being able to express the art. It's not numbers for me because I come from. See, my number one record was number 60 and 40 20 and 10 then number one so i know like working the record i feel like people don't be working records no more the festivals and them big places they checking your numbers they checking you with your song they don't be able to i learned that at like i think i learned that in 2016 i forgot who the artist was. They was going after us. And I'm like, I know we hotter than them.
Starting point is 00:58:08 I know this. The streaming numbers, bro. It was like a radio show, too. I'm like, well, they on Billboard. They on top 15. Y'all like number 40 right now. And then it made me understand the significance point of it. So it's some people that still watch.
Starting point is 00:58:22 And I just feel like artists ain't, rappers ain't putting on no show, bro. Nah. We just get in the bag and like people tired of paying the bag like that. Like you gotta put on a show. You gonna dance and everything. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I don't give a ****. Think it's like not cool, cool. People like to be entertained more than anything. That's right. Alright. Well, what you wanna hear off the aisle?
Starting point is 00:58:39 What you wanna play? Play that Worth It, man. Worth It? Let's get in that bag, man. Featuring Don Toliver and we appreciate you joining us. The album is out this Friday. Set it off.
Starting point is 00:58:47 The Rubber Offset's here. Let's go. And it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlemagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. There's been a lot going on, Charlemagne.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Like what? Don't say like what, man. There's been a million and one accusations that I was involved with scamming people. Oh, my God. No no i'm being serious so so let me explain some things i'm not my attorneys don't want me to speak but i think there's things that i need to clear up a little bit i think you should listen to your attorneys why don't i think people like to listen if your attorney told you don't say nothing why are you talking listen so caesar and myself did seminars. Now, the reason I did these seminars is because I wanted to uplift my community. I wanted to teach my community about real estate, things that I didn't know when I was first buying my first home.
Starting point is 00:59:33 I wanted to teach our community about investing in generational wealth. So I did these seminars and brought industry professionals to all these seminars, whether it was real estate agents from different markets, contractors, conventional lenders, hard money lenders. I even brought auction.com to actually show people how to purchase houses online. That's what I wanted to do for my people. That was it. Now, Cesar, if he took money, I wasn't privy to it, nor did I even know. But I do understand how people feel if they did give him money because I gave him a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Jesus. That I didn't see a dollar of return. I didn't see a quarter, a nickel, nothing. I didn't see any return. And I know how that feels. But for anybody to say I was involved, that's totally not true. I would never. I've been on this radio close to third i've been on radio close to 30 years and never in my 30 years time did i do nothing but try
Starting point is 01:00:30 to uplift people and show people a different way through the business mind and i would never take a dollar from somebody i could be wrong but i didn't see nobody accusing you of taking money i just saw them say that they met caesar because they heard you talking about Caesar. They basically said I was privy to it. And that wasn't true. From what I read in actual court papers, I didn't see that. They said that all these people are saying that they met Caesar because of you.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Right, and they're saying that... I don't see nobody accusing you of taking no money. To the point where if you read the court documents, Caesar wrote an affidavit that says DJ Envy, Rashawn Casey, had no knowledge of me investing people's money. I saw that. He wasn't there. He wasn't part of those conversations. He wasn't even nowhere in those meetings. And that was, those are documents that's out there.
Starting point is 01:01:15 So if we're going to talk about truth, let's talk about the truth. And those are the documents out there. And I know you can't talk about the truth yet because your lawyers don't want you talking at all. So the smart thing to do is I understand you want to say something to the listeners and I'm sure the listeners appreciate it. But man, just wait until all the dust settles. And when all the dust settles, then we can get on this radio and have a real conversation. Until then, I just, you know, I don't think you should be saying any of this. But, you know, that's just me. Look at you.
Starting point is 01:01:44 You can't even help yourself. What else you want to say now? Nothing. Okay at you. You can't even help yourself. What else do you want to say now? Nothing. Okay. Nothing. All right. But when the dust settles, you can have a real conversation with the audience. But it's difficult because the stuff that you're hearing is like, that's totally not true.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Like, it's not true. Like, that's fake news. Like, those are fake stories. That should be enough. You know what the truth is. If you know what the truth is, don't worry about it. Because the truth don't need no defense. The truth don't need no defense it just needs the truth don't need no defense just witnesses that's it all right all right well and by the way you look very suspicious because you
Starting point is 01:02:13 don't have your judgment in right now so it's like the grades are coming in right here in the back and you need a little haircut so it just makes you look like oh i just want to say this on i've never stole anything from anybody and i'll just leave it at that what you know what rhymes with what what but and from what i was told you should steal a lot of butt back in the city that's i can't i'm trying to be serious here and you're playing around good old big old queen from queens when we come back we got your your rumor report that's that's what that's why i can't you know what it's the breakfast local morning all right morning everybody it's dj nv charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club let's get to the rumors let's talk mary j blige rumor has it rumor rumor has it call out a name or you gossiping
Starting point is 01:02:56 or you chatty this is the rumor report i mean i guess we're on the breakfast club this is where the tea spills right right now we got a salute to mary j blige she's doing something very special she's offering a thirty thousand dollar scholarship to one lucky student at hampton university now this is part of her strength of a woman scholarship it's an initiative for eligible students they must uh self-identify as a female be a current college sophomore undergraduate with a minimum of a 2.5 gpa and also be pursuing a degree in business administration marketing arts finance or creative design so salute to mary j blige and i think it's dope that the school that she's picking is hampton university dropping the clues bombs for mary j blige anytime something is done for
Starting point is 01:03:41 hbcus i'm all for it now the deadline uh if you want to apply is october 16th by 3 p.m all right all applicants will be notified in december so again congratulations and good luck to anybody that's uh trying to get that scholarship now uh cameron and mace they have a a great show i love this show it's called it is what it is and during it is what it is sometimes they ask each other questions and somebody emailed and wanted to ask mace a question about where was he when biggie was murdered and what was his first thought and what did he want to do the night that biggie small died where were you and what did you do in the aftermath right after biggie small died well people that sound like a key fd question no they didn't say he was involved
Starting point is 01:04:25 i was actually in a hotel with a young lady and when you heard this information what was your next actions i actually was trapped in a hotel now i want to ask the question what do you mean trapped it was about 70 or so bloods in the hallway. I couldn't even leave my room. Why would it be 70 bloods in your hallway after Biggie Smalls died? After Big got killed, they was probably looking for more bad boy artists. And I couldn't even leave the room till Gene Dill, the officer, had to come get me. That's f***ed up. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:05:00 I was left in L.A. And from that day, I always said, you know what? I'm out of here. Damn. That's a story you never heard. You heard so many stories from that night. I never heard that one. I didn't even know Maze was out there.
Starting point is 01:05:13 No, never at all. Now, also, they talk about the song, Oh Boy, which was a Cameron record. Now, fun fact, when I was doing my album back then, we got offered that record. Anybody offer you that record? It's a true story. When I was doing my album back then, we got offered that record. Anybody offer you that record? It's a true story. When I was signed to Desert Storm. Yeah, and the money that Cameron wanted for me to purchase the record in the production at the time, of course, we didn't have huge budgets, so we couldn't take it. But I always thought the record was a hit, and it turned out to be a hit.
Starting point is 01:05:37 But this is him talking about the record and why Just Blaze and Jay were mad about it. This gives me a great example of Marshawn Lynch and Russell Wilson and me and Just Blaze relationship. I think it's the same. The old boy beat is sitting on the f***ers in the studio for two months. Nobody uses it. Juelz convinced me to steal the f***ing song.
Starting point is 01:05:58 We do the song. After we put it out, he comes up to me and is like, Cam, we're going to absolutely get killed on the publishing. We didn't get to clear the sample before we put it out. And I'm like, all right, whatever, man. We should have been sitting there for two months. By the way, Jay was mad at me behind that because he didn't understand why I gave you that beat and I didn't give him the beat. I said, yo, yo, just fuck it.
Starting point is 01:06:19 It's a hit. I get that, Cam, but if we would have did things correctly and then went back and double back, we could quadrupled what we really were going to make now we're not going to play i said just do you want to be a hit producer he said not actually my dream is wall street and to have restaurants so that was the story of old boy and just blaze all right and that is your rumor report now charlamagne who you giving your donkey to man for after the hour uh i need this library in huntsville alabama to come to the front of the congregation and it's a good uh opportunity to just express my love for books we'll discuss all right and then after that we have somebody that's actually just wrote a book it's called fashion killer it's out today out today. Somya is the lady's name, young lady's name.
Starting point is 01:07:07 And she has a book talking about fashion in the industry, talking about everything on the West Coast from khakis and converse to Cameron's clothes to the pink fur and all that. And we're going to talk to her next hour. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my guests and dive even deeper into their stories,
Starting point is 01:07:46 their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider or wherever you get your podcasts. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg.
Starting point is 01:08:46 I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe own country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Oh, my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:09:23 As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. to the world. It took drama and mayhem to an entirely new level. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, every backstab, blackmail and explosion, and every single wig removal together. Secrets are revealed as we rewatch every moment with you. Special guests from back in the day will be dropping by. You know who they are. Sydney, Allison, and Joe are back together on Still the Place
Starting point is 01:11:07 with a trip down memory lane and back to Melrose Place. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hola, mi gente. It's Honey German, and I'm bringing you Gracias, Come Again. The podcast where we dive deep into the world of Latin culture, musica, peliculas, and entertainment with some of the biggest names in the game. If you love hearing real conversations with your favorite Latin celebrities,
Starting point is 01:11:37 artists, and culture shifters, this is the podcast for you. We're talking real conversations with our Latin stars, from actors and artists to musicians and creators, sharing their stories, struggles, and successes. You know it's going to be filled with chisme laughs and all the vibes that you love. Each week, we'll explore everything from music and pop culture to deeper topics like identity, community, and breaking down barriers in all sorts of industries. Don't miss out on the fun, el té caliente, and life stories. Join me for Gracias Come Again, a podcast by Honey German,
Starting point is 01:12:08 where we get into todo lo actual y viral. Listen to Gracias Come Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I was donkey up the deep. Made it.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Damn, the hee-haw again. It's time for donkey up the day. I ain't trying to be donkey of the day no more. They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm not making these people do these things. Called donkey of the day, and it really caught me off guard. Damn, Solomon, who got the donkey of the day today? Well, Jess Hilarious, donkey of the day for Wednesday, October 11th
Starting point is 01:12:45 goes to the Huntsville, Madison County Public Library in Huntsville, Alabama. Salute to everybody who listens to us in Alabama. We're on 104.1 to beat in Birmingham, Hot 107.5 in Montgomery,
Starting point is 01:12:56 and 107.3 to beat in Mobile. Mobile. Mobile. Mobile. Drop on the clues, bombs for Alabama. Now, y'all know I love reading.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Thank you to my mother who was an english teacher in south carolina and for the book your program for fueling my hunger to read my mother would always tell me to read things that don't pertain to me and the book your program was a game changer for a teenage mutant ninja turtle like myself i'm fully aware that i look like i could be cast in a live remake of the ninja turtles myself jeezy jada kiss neo teenage mutant nigga turtle see when you love pizza hot pizza and you love to read and your mom tells you to read things that don't pertain to you and you have to read four books to get a free pizza reading things that don't pertain to you makes that easy okay that's why i love judy bloom and all her works okay that's why i love judy bloom and all her works the way that i do okay i'm saying all that
Starting point is 01:13:44 to say i love reading i love books i'm a new york times best-selling author i have two books out black privilege and shook one can you see him can you see him on the camera nick how should i grab him you got him here black privilege you come back to the microphone yes black privilege is right here shook one is right here okay okay uh i have a book imprint black privilege publishing with shaman and Schuster Feel free to purchase Tamika Mallory State of Emergency
Starting point is 01:14:08 And Anita Kopach Shallow Waters Oh we got those in here too Where are those I got a book too Hold on I got a book too Hold on
Starting point is 01:14:15 Hold on Hold on Hold on Come back to the microphone See Tamika Mallory State of Emergency Anita Kopach
Starting point is 01:14:20 Shallow Waters I got a book look Those are the first Releases of the imprint See If you got a book Real life Real love
Starting point is 01:14:25 Okay Salute to Doug Melville Invisible Generals Out November 7th You can pre-order that now I'm saying all that To let you know How much I love books
Starting point is 01:14:34 Okay This one Let me show you What I'm reading right now Hold on Hold on You see this Don Miguel Ruiz's new book
Starting point is 01:14:40 Okay Just finished this Rich Paul Lucky me I'm never not reading I love reading My wife loves reading And it's infectious My kids love reading Louise's new book. Okay? Just finished this. Rich Paul. Lucky me. I'm never not reading. I love reading. My wife loves reading, and it's infectious.
Starting point is 01:14:49 My kids love reading. I have three bookshelves in my house. I'm telling you all this to paint the picture of how much I love books, because I want you to know how it pains me to see all these books and authors being banned all around the country. I'm from South Carolina, okay, where the first anti-literacy laws were passed. It was prohibited to teach slaves to read and write write so when you see me having the love for books that I do when you see me so deep in the book business understand it's personal so stories like what's happening at the Huntsville Madison County Public Library really grind my gear see they banning books they have a list of potentially
Starting point is 01:15:19 inappropriate titles now I've never agreed with this kind of censorship because everything is subjective do you know that judy bloom is one of the most banned offers of the 20th century judy bloom are you there goddess me margaret blubber iggy's house banned because some culturally clueless fool labeled her potentially dangerous i don't get it don't understand it just like i don't understand what the hunchville madison county public library is doing see they added a children's picture book titled uh read me a story stella to a list of potentially inappropriate titles now what could be in this picture book that's potentially dangerous hmm is it humans riding on a penis shaped horse
Starting point is 01:15:54 uh d riding derby if you will is it a little sexy red riding hood taking big bad wolves to pound town did jack and jill go up the hill to fetch somali and percocets what could be in this children's book that is potentially dangerous? Let's go to the news report. Read Me a Story, Stella, a children's book by author Marie Louise Gay, appeared in a public library keyword search list of potentially inappropriate material. It's because of the author's last name, Gay. This prompted a backlash against the library, which insists it was a mistake.
Starting point is 01:16:25 In an exclusive, Arkin McCoy spoke with Executive Director Cindy Hewitt. Read Me a Story, Stella, which seems to be what everybody's focused on, was a book that was just on a keyword search list. It has never been banned, moved, or touched in the library. It's still sitting where it's supposed to. So we were examining our collection to see if our materials were in age-appropriate categories. The communication was done at the managerial level, was passed down through staff, and in that conversation from managers to staff is where communication broke
Starting point is 01:16:57 down. And the intent and the purpose was misrepresented. That was was fox 54 by the way so the answer to what's in the book that is potentially dangerous is nothing the book is about a pair of siblings reading together and building a dog house the reason the book was listed potentially dangerous was because of the author's last name marie louise gay yes it was added to the list of potentially dangerous books because the author's last name was gay okay that's it nothing more nothing less can we unpack this if the author's last name being gay is considered potentially dangerous and i know this library don't carry the memoir of dick buckus okay this former new england patriot dick felt have a memoir i know that would be considered potentially dangerous. What about Amanda Love?
Starting point is 01:17:46 Amanda Love will never have a book in this library. OK, banning books is never acceptable. We need more conversations now. We need folks reading about different ideologies that individuals have. Stephen Chubosky says banning books gives us silence when we need speech. It closes our ears when we need to listen and makes us blind when we need sight. And I agree. Not to mention, if a public school would remove every book that contains one word deemed objectionable to some random person, then there would be no books at all in our public libraries.
Starting point is 01:18:15 If you ask me, they didn't ban this book because the word gay is considered sexually inappropriate. They banned this book because this woman is an author her last name is gay and i believe every single public library in a red state probably has all of the great roxanne gay's work band dropping a clue bombs for roxanne gay all right this isn't about sexuality as much as this is about banning one of the greatest authors professors social commenters we got on this third rock from the sun don't say gay takes on a whole other meaning in public libraries all right they don't want you reading uh bad feminists and roxanne gay's other works okay look man read all the banned books you can all right let your children read all the banned books you can my daddy used to say if you want to hide something
Starting point is 01:18:53 from a black person put it in a book we've been defied that stereotype that black people don't read and now that they know we actually read they just want to hide the books so go read all the banned books you can and remember this quote from oscar wilde the books. So go read all the banned books you can. And remember this quote from Oscar Wilde. The books that the world calls immoral are the books that show the world its own shame. The books that tell the truth of America. That hold a mirror to America and shows America what it needs to be embarrassed about. Please give this Huntsville,ison county public library in hunchville alabama the biggest hee haw all right well thank you for that donkey today sir yes indeed now when
Starting point is 01:19:38 we come back well peace b-e-t-b-e-t we see you later. Everybody else, Somia will be joining us. She has a new book called Fashion Killer. Do you know Somia's last name? I don't want to mess it up. Krisna Murphy. Huh? Somia Krisna Murphy.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Krisna Murphy, yes. She'll be joining us when we come back. Me and Somia used to host a TV show together back in the day on MTV called Hip Hop POV. It was me, Somia,
Starting point is 01:20:01 Boo, Akon's brother Boo, Amanda Seals, Debbie Brown. I think that's it. Am I missing? No. That's it.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Boo. Oh, me. Yeah. There's five of us. I know. I think there's five of us. Who's the fifth person? Me.
Starting point is 01:20:14 Duh. Yes. Well, she has a new book out today called Fashion Killer, and we're going to talk to her when we come back. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Somia Krishna Murphy. Somia Krishna Murphy. I didn't want you to attend. I've been practicing that.
Starting point is 01:20:35 I've been practicing it for the last five minutes. I was going to get it right. I wasn't sure who was going to do it right, but both of you in unison. That's right. Somia Krishna Murphy. It's a good day. Thank you. We have a book out right now called Fashion Killer.
Starting point is 01:20:45 And before we get to the book, you know, Somia is a world-renowned hip-hop journalist. Yes. Yes. And Fashion Killer is my first book. Wow. So order it everywhere. This is the first anthology about hip-hop and high fashion. And obviously it comes out on Hip Hop 50.
Starting point is 01:21:02 Why a book about fashion? It's so interesting. The genesis was it started as an article in XXL. And as I was doing the research, I saw that there are no books about this. And one thing about the lit space, and you know this, Char, is that a lot of times hip hop stories just aren't elevated in the same way other genres are. Rock music, pop music, right? It's still sort of seen as either niche or some kind of underground to be honest with you so to me knowing hip-hop 50 was coming up this is such
Starting point is 01:21:32 a great opportunity to write really that definitive story that 50-year retrospective and i'm one of those people if i don't see it in the marketplace well i might as well just do it myself that's right i was gonna ask you know what do you break down in a book? Because sometimes you go to Vegas and you go to Planet Hollywood, you see all these rock and roll idols on the wall and you see their guitar and you see their shirt
Starting point is 01:21:52 and you see their whatever or you see some pop stars. I don't really see that much for hip hop, which is concerning. And we do have a lot of things that is pretty big, whether we're talking about...
Starting point is 01:22:04 Imagine the Run DMC, Adidas, or Cam'ron's Jackson's, the red, white, and blue, or Cam'ron's pink fur. Things like that that really step outside of... That's the Smithsonian, right? The Cam'ron pink fur. But I think Envy, you make such a good point.
Starting point is 01:22:18 It is still this idea, although hip-hop is 50, it's still not viewed through that prestige lens. Yeah, you have the Smithsonian, you have these little moments here and there, although hip hop is 50, it's still not viewed kind of through that prestige lens, right? Yeah. I mean, you have the Smithsonian, you have these like little moments here and there, but this idea that it should be elevated and really treated with the
Starting point is 01:22:33 gravitas it deserves. I think those are the opportunities. And for me, that's, I just didn't see that in the lit space. Because it's not, I don't think hip hop is looked at through the lens of art and it should be.
Starting point is 01:22:43 I remember when Salam Remy was up here and he had these big paintings of like, you know, some of our favorite hip hop artists. When you see it as a painting, you're like, oh, you look at it different. When they do the Book of Hove exhibit in Brooklyn, you're like, oh, like we're not looking at it through the lens of art. Yeah. And, you know, for me, just having a hardcover book out, you open it. And yeah, of course, there's like 40 great photos of like biggie and cam and cardi b and all these people but there's also history there's sociology there's psychology it's so much more layered than just a rapper wore a dope outfit and i think a lot of times people see it through that cursory lens and it's much more nuanced than that break down this cover
Starting point is 01:23:22 because i hit you when i told you. This cover is fantastic. Fire. Break down that cover. So it's so funny. That cover was a little bit, there were some back and forth, a little arguments with some people. So basically Fashion Killa is obviously a nod to the A$AP Rocky song where he name checks like 27 brands, right? He was saying brands that nobody had heard of. And I wanted something that really made it
Starting point is 01:23:46 stand out in the marketplace with the cover if you look at again a lot of hip-hop books it's like a guy with a big chain um something very sort of stereotypical or kind of looks cheap if i'm going to be honest and for me i wanted it to look luxe i want to look sexy even if you don't read one page it's going to look good on your coffee table. It looks great in selfies. So I wanted this to be a book. It's very much a nod to McQueen, obviously with the skull, but again to differentiate it, to show that
Starting point is 01:24:14 this is something different, it's special and almost treat it like a luxury product, right? Imagine like walking down the street having a really sexy book. That's kind of an accessory, right? And it's also a great conversation starter too do you break down uh how especially in hip-hop how we make some of these fashion brands cool absolutely um you know it's funny one of the chapters is called 1991 and a lot of people
Starting point is 01:24:36 don't realize carl lagerfeld did a whole hip-hop themed runway show back in 91 and it was you know big chains and nameplates and baseball cap to the side now of course rappers and hip-hop weren't given homage right but the idea that someone like carl lagerfeld for chanel was doing it all the way back then the influence has always been there now the thing is the relationship i think very much starred as the outsider so-hop not being accepted, but also not being able to afford it. You've got to think back to someone like Dapper Dan. He's like, the only people who could afford my stuff were drug dealers and athletes. Only then, when LL and Eric B. Rakim, people like that, Kane, when they were able to afford it, then they become the consumer. We go into the 90s, which is my personal favorite era, where we start to see
Starting point is 01:25:25 Sean John and Rock Aware and all of these rapper-led brands, right? And then now I think we're in an age of collaboration. So you have Pharrell over at Louis Vuitton, you see artists like A$AP Rocky or Travis Scott very much being partners with these brands. But as we saw with Dapper Dan, I mean, his sort of full circle moment with Gucci happened after they bit his style. Right. And only after Twitter came and really rallied around him was he able to have this incredible comeback. I would hope it doesn't take outrage and those kind of scandals for hip hop to truly have a seat at the table, whether it be decision making, design or just being represented in fashion. Why do you think it's so difficult for black brands to succeed and have longevity? whether it be decision making, design, or just being represented in fashion.
Starting point is 01:26:09 Why do you think it's so difficult for black brands to succeed and have longevity? It's hard. I think when we talk about rapper-led brands first, a lot of it is tied to the artist. So when the artist isn't hot, you don't want to wear their clothes no more, right? And so many of those brands, I mean, are you wearing Marshall mathers clothing right now maybe i mean i'm from michigan so maybe we always wear it i didn't even know marshall mathers had a clothing line you know there was woo wear remember busta had a line dmx had there was a time everyone had a line it was get a record deal have one hit record and have a line, right? A few of them, Sean John, Rock Aware, they kind of elevated where they were making hundreds of millions of dollars.
Starting point is 01:26:50 But I think a lot of it is you can't tie something to something as seasonal, as an artist trend, because when you're not the flavor of the moment, and it happens to everyone, no one wants to wear your clothes. I think the other part is just for brands, it's really expensive. A lot of people ask me, why don't you think rappers other part is just for brands, it's really expensive. A lot of people ask me, why don't you think rappers want to have their own brands now? Do you want to spend your own money
Starting point is 01:27:10 to have, you know, focus on manufacturing and supply and all of these things, distribution? It's similar to the music business. There's a reason everyone still signs to the majors. It's better to spend
Starting point is 01:27:20 someone else's money. All right, we got more with Somya Krishnamurthy when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt,
Starting point is 01:27:38 learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth,
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Starting point is 01:32:08 Don't miss out on the fun, el té caliente, and life stories. Join me for Gracias Come Again, a podcast by Honey German, where we get into todo lo actual y viral. Listen to Gracias Come Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Somya Krishnamurthy. She is the author of Fashion Killer, a book that's pretty much based on the fashion of the hip-hop industry. Charlamagne, what came first for you, the love of fashion or love of hip-hop? I love the hip-hop.. 100%. But so I grew up in Kalamazoo, Michigan, which outside of Derek Jeter, nobody else knows where that's from because that's where he's from. And you got to remember, we didn't have hip-hop radio. We didn't have, you know, concerts coming through like that.
Starting point is 01:32:58 So, so much of my relationship was through things like music videos, magazines like Vibe and The Source and Blaze. So the music and the visuals really went hand in hand at a very early age for me. What about Lil' Kim? Because you broke down her fashion sense. Why do you think she's such a fashion icon? I mean, Lil' Kim from day one, who can forget that famous poster of Hardcore?
Starting point is 01:33:19 I don't know if you guys remember, but I think a lot of boys became men when they saw that. That was on the wall. Yeah, there was a lot. It's actually currently on his wall. Yeah, there was a lot. That was on your wall? It's actually currently on his wall. It's like a Basquiat and then hardcore.
Starting point is 01:33:34 Funny story, I got a homeboy who was high off hash and he said that. This is in South Carolina? Yes. And he said that Lil' Kim climbed off out of that post-it and slept with him. Shut up. I promise you. This isn't a magic eye. What was he trying to see? I promise you. But why do you think she's such a fashion but yeah so little kim very early on she was very fearless and this was a woman who
Starting point is 01:33:51 embraced her sexuality her body at a time that it still wasn't acceptable i mean if you i was looking a lot of archival footage she's sitting here on daytime tv grown men and women wagging their finger and you're the downfall of America. But she stayed true to herself. And early on, she worked with people like Donatella Versace and Marc Jacobs. She became a muse to them. Because in fashion, what's more exciting than a
Starting point is 01:34:16 gorgeous woman who sits very proudly in her skin? But Kim, like a lot of artists, especially female artists, they never got their flowers. If you remember, Cardi B was the first female rapper on the cover of American Vogue. Wasn't Kim, wasn't Fox, wasn't Missy Elliott, wasn't Eve. All great contenders, by the way. So now a lot of people in the fashion world are talking about maybe she should get like a Lifetime Achievement Award or something because not only did she birth a generation of female artists but so many designers have taken just her elements from the wig the makeup um the diy creations that
Starting point is 01:34:52 she wore she definitely represents somebody who was fearless what was it about virgil that made hip-hop artists currently celebrate him the way that they do because you know you don't really see that with designers like why virgil well virgil came from hip-hop there's a great picture in my book of virgil kanye fonsworth bentley and a few other guys at paris fashion week oh i remember that yeah that's what people used to kill that picture they used to kill that picture but looking now they all came dressed and they were peacocking they were looking for the camera because and i interviewed um fonsworth for the book and he's like we want to show we arrived this was important that we are here as young black stylish men in paris and you will take our photo so virgil came up with kanye was very close to him as a creative director
Starting point is 01:35:36 they were both interns together at fendi now look i interned at bad boy and i'm pretty sure that they got to do more fun intern things at Fendi, Kanye and Virgil. But I love the fact that they wanted to earn their stripes. Like, no, no, no, we need to go to the source and we don't want to just be the cool guys jumping in. We want to be respected. One thing Virgil, I think, did very well was he's a great dot connector. He will take someone from hip hop, someone from art, someone from the sports world. He was a dj so he had this interesting sensibility that he was able to to touch with and you know i think for a lot of people myself included we were just so shocked when he passed so virgil and also andre harrell sadly passed during the writing of this book so i couldn't get to speak to them um but i think for a lot of people we just
Starting point is 01:36:22 that's like a hole that hasn't been filled just Just this idea of this nice, good guy who had so many interesting, cool friends and vision. And when he had that job at Louis Vuitton, it really felt like someone from hip-hop made it. It wasn't just wearing Louis. You have a job there. You're actually sitting at those tables with those decision makers. So he'll absolutely be missed. What male artists do you feel revolutionized hip-hop as far as fashion is for the culture if you could think i mean we're
Starting point is 01:36:50 talking about high fashion we got to go back to the beginning and go to who was wearing dapper dan who can ever forget eric b and rock him and those like dapper dan jackets i think later on someone like puffy was so instrumental where he could do anything because he came from that Andre Harrell lineage of ghetto fabulous he was the guy making Mary J Blige wear like the baseball shirt and the cap and the you know knee pads and that whole thing Jodeci and then of course that goes to Biggie right I I don't think without Puff Biggie would look the way that he looked I think Puff as he said and I think there's a great quote in the book, I want to say from one of the trackmasters, where Puff is like,
Starting point is 01:37:27 no, my man is sexy. And they're like, really? He's like, no, no, that's why we need to do one more chance, because he's sexy. And women like him, and he needs to look sexy. So, someone like Puff, absolutely. Of course, Kanye. Kanye, absolutely, yes. This man continues to revolutionize
Starting point is 01:37:44 fashion. When I go out, I see so many little Kanye clones to, absolutely, yes. This man continues to revolutionize fashion. When I go out, I see so many little Kanye clones to this day, right? Absolutely. Like, you just look like you walked out of Calabasas.
Starting point is 01:37:52 Pharrell. Oh, definitely. From streetwear, popularizing Bape, to then launching BBC. And he worked with people like Lagerfeld, Marc Jacobs,
Starting point is 01:38:01 early, before Louis Vuitton. One fun story, because, you know, there's a big conversation in hip-hop. Who made Bape popular? Soulja Boy thinks it's him. Then there's, you know, Lil Wayne said it was him. This launched a whole, the clips, Mr. Me Too, right?
Starting point is 01:38:16 That was a whole thing. Pharrell, hands down. I have a great picture of Biggie wearing it in 97. Really? Before he passed. Wearing Bape? Wearing Bape. Wow.
Starting point is 01:38:23 It's an incredible story. That's one of my favorite pictures. And there's an awesome picture of Tupac in Milan. So right before he passed, he was invited by Versace to walk in the runway show in Milan. It was Tupac, Kidada Jones, who was his then girlfriend, and his bodyguards. They actually walked? They walked the show, and then he performed, I believe, California Love. Wow.
Starting point is 01:38:44 Yeah. And apparently Gianni was a big fan of his. walked they walked the show and then he performed i believe california love yeah and apparently gianni was a big fan of his and gianni versace was smart about collecting celebrities and really having whether it be madonna or mike tyson he liked just like celebrities and he was that designer that now we see celebs front row it wasn't like that before it was fashion editors fashion buyers like people who need to be in the industry um but gianni just saw the vision and he just fell in love with pac and yeah so that right before he passed what do you hope fashion goes in the next 50 years we know what the last 50 years of hip-hop
Starting point is 01:39:16 fashion look like what about the next 50. i think the next 50 i would love to see a rapper brand become an American heritage brand. The way that we wear Polo and Tommy Hilfiger and Calvin Klein and those things, maybe it's Sean John, maybe it's Yeezy, maybe it's somebody else. I think it was Yeezy. I think he fumbled. Was or is? I think it was. He was on his way. Okay, so here's the question.
Starting point is 01:39:40 Can he make a comeback? No. You don't think Kanye can make a comeback? I think he can. I think he can make a comeback. Absolutely. 1000%. Not if you're trying to trademark you make a comeback? No. You don't think Kanye can make a comeback? I think he can. I think he can make a comeback. Absolutely. 1000%. Not if you're trying to trademark you at a time like this.
Starting point is 01:39:50 That would be interesting. But what I love about this book is it starts in 1973, ends in 2023. But the culture is living. So it's constantly shaping and changing. So reading this book, you get this great historical perspective. But I think it also makes you excited for the future well the book is out right now fashion killer appreciate you for joining us revolutionized high fashion is in stores right now go pick it up thank you for joining us thank
Starting point is 01:40:15 you let's do it again so yeah ladies and gentlemen it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club that damn justin bieber boy all right to be with no he can make an r&b record when he want to can he why are we not playing moments from uh the love album the justin bieber record from the ditty album that's a good question it's a dope record you just throw that on every now and then morning everybody we are the breakfast club let's get to the rumors let's talk kerry washington rumor hazard rumor rumor hazard call out a name or you gossiping or you chatty this is the rumor report i mean i guess we on the breakfast club this is where the tea spills right right now kerry washington was on bravo on uh watch what happens live with andy cohen and she
Starting point is 01:40:57 was asked who's the most famous person to slide in your dms uh Who is the most famous person to slide into your DMs wanting to connect as a friend or otherwise? Shaq. Shaquille O'Neal. Wow, I love it. He's a big Scandal fan and he's always like,
Starting point is 01:41:14 I'll do anything for command. That's amazing. Shaq being everybody's DMs. You notice that? Who else DMs? There's always a story about Shaq being in somebody's DMs.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Sending support and love. Drop on a clues bomb for that 7'3 regular Newark nigga. It's good to see he's still got that Newark in him. Yeah, he's definitely from the Brick City. Now, Jada Pinkett Smith reveals that she and Will Smith have been separated since 2016. There are so many surprising things in the book. But the thing that surprised me the most that I actually had to reread it because I said, is this true? Right.
Starting point is 01:41:57 Was that in 2016, you and Will decided that you were going to live completely separate lives. It was not a divorce on paper, but it was a divorce. So from the year 2016, which is seven years ago now, y'all have been apart. Yeah. Let me think about this i haven't read the book yet but i am a pinkett winfrey i don't forgot what i am i'm so flustered i'm a pinkett smith winfrey Knowles-Carter. So since 2016, it's 2023. So close to 20 years, right? I really want to know how Will feels about this. Close to 10 years.
Starting point is 01:42:52 I really want to know how Will Smith truly, truly feels. Not what he says to the public, not what he says on social media, when he's with his therapist or when he's just alone in his thoughts. How does he feel about this? Because it feels like, it feels like there's only one side there's only one part of the relationship always being spoken about and it's always coming from miss jada and it never seems like it puts will in a good light ever am i bugging with this yeah just me no it's not just you but if they were separated since 2016 right it's 2023 that don't
Starting point is 01:43:24 mean uh i get what you what you're trying That don't mean, I get what you're saying. Tell me what you're saying. That means, you know, when she was allegedly with. Oh, I don't want to talk about that. That means that that was fine because they were separate, right? I was thinking about something else. What was you thinking about? I was thinking about when him and Chris Rock got into their little incident.
Starting point is 01:43:40 Because I know people will probably say, well, they were separated. He probably did that for no reason. But that don't mean, that's still the mother of your children. This is still the mother of your children. It don't matter. But I was just going to say, well, they were separated. You probably did that for no reason. But that don't mean that's still the mother of your children. This is still the mother of your children. It don't matter. But I was just going to say, so no matter what she does on the side or what he does on the side, they were separated. And you can't tell what their relationship is, right? Whatever makes them happy makes them happy.
Starting point is 01:43:55 It's nobody else's business, correct? But I'm sure they know that. That's why it's their house. That's probably why they don't trip the way the general public be tripping. See, the general public don't know nothing. And they never do. All we do is assume things and we see things and being that we don't know how things actually are we jump to conclusions no but you can't jump to conclusions when you don't have no information no but the problem is didn't they do a whole interview about it
Starting point is 01:44:17 and everything and during that interview when they were talking about their their lives and their marriage they never one time said they were separated. I don't know about none of that, man. I don't like talking about people's situations like that. I like figuring out my own home. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 01:44:31 Okay, you know what I'm saying? I got my own home going on. Me too. I'm trying to keep entanglements out of my house. I don't want my house to be entangled. Yeah, but also,
Starting point is 01:44:38 if they talk about it and you write it in a book, you want people to know, right? Well, DC, that's my point. And that's why I said it always seems to only be coming from one side. I read Will's book. He didn't mention none of it. You know what I mean? I ain't read Jada's book yet. want people to know, right? Well, DC, that's my point. And that's why I said it always seems to only be coming from one side. I read Will's book.
Starting point is 01:44:46 He didn't mention none of it. You know what I mean? I ain't read Jada's book yet. I want to know how Will feels about this situation. And Will's being forced to have to speak about it because she is. Right? And we're curious now. Correct.
Starting point is 01:44:59 You know? Yeah. Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm. All right. Well, that is your room, my boy guess remember when biggie said problems with my wife don't discuss them yeah i think everybody needs to get back to that problems with my wife don't discuss them problems with my husband don't discuss but i will say that when when people do maybe not that problem but when they discuss certain problems it's it's it's a better
Starting point is 01:45:20 situation because sometimes people feel like when they're dealing with situations in their house that it's just them you know i mean only i'm going to go to a therapist go to a counselor go to go do some people don't like counselors and therapists though for whatever reasons you know i'm seeing everybody spill their guts via social media or you know but sometimes i think it's good because i think people can understand and say hey this is what i went through this is what i've been through people don't understand because they don't care they have understanding you have to care let me tell you something none of these people actually care about these people nobody that reading jada pinkett's book or likes will smith they don't actually care about them how could they how could they actually care about them as people we don't know them as people you know them for what you see on television you know for what you
Starting point is 01:46:00 read in books i mean you know what you hear in the music you don't actually know these people so you don't have that that level of empathy and that level of care that you would if you actually knew somebody. So it's like, yo, when they give us things like this, we're not thinking anything except for gossip, rumors, things to chat about on social media to talk about at work. Like we don't know these people. All right. Well, that is your room. So what's the point of giving it to report? All right. When we come back, we got the people's choice mix let's go it's the breakfast
Starting point is 01:46:27 club good morning the breakfast club your mornings will never be the same morning everybody it's dj nv charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club now um we got a salute offset for joining us this morning uh salute to the good brother offset man set man. Set It Off will be in stores Friday. That's Offset's second album, his sophomore album. And also salute to Somya. Her new book, Fashion Killer, is out right now. That's right. Somya Kristina Murphy, that's the homie.
Starting point is 01:46:54 Her book, Fashion Killer, is out right now. And the reason I like that book is because, you know, when we talk about- You ain't got no fashion. I don't have no fashion, but when we've been talking about 50 years of hip hop, you know, it's all about the music. But, you know, hip hop is a culture. So it's not just music. You know, fashion plays a big role in that.
Starting point is 01:47:08 So I'm glad that there is a piece of art that is documenting the last 50 years of fashion and hip hop. And that is indeed Samuel Krishna Murphy's new book, Fashion Killer. So make sure you go pick that up. And Rich Paul, Lucky Me is out there, man. Go to the bookstore. Those are two good reasons to go to the bookstore uh this week and uh michael harriet black af that's another good reason to go to the bookstore that came out a couple weeks ago great reads all right when we come back we got the positive notice the breakfast club good morning morning everybody is dj envy
Starting point is 01:47:37 charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club now i'm charlamagne you got a positive note i do man and the positive note is simply this uh when you're transitioning from being a people pleaser into someone with more boundaries it can feel so weird it's hard to tell if you're being mean or if you're actually just respecting your own feelings because you're so used to putting other people's feelings first but i'm telling you right now you gotta put your feelings first, okay? Breakfast club, bitches! You don't finish or y'all done. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you.
Starting point is 01:48:18 Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace for yourself. You're trying your best, and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hey guys i'm kate max you might know me from my popular online series the running interview, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High,
Starting point is 01:48:52 is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this.
Starting point is 01:49:18 It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakatistan.
Starting point is 01:49:33 That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, 1974. George Foreman, 1974. George Foreman was champion of the world. Ali was smart and he was handsome. The story behind The Rumble in the Jungle is like a Hollywood movie. But that is only half the story.
Starting point is 01:49:59 There's also James Brown, Bill Withers, B.B. King, Miriam Akiba. All the biggest black artists on the planet. Together in Africa. It was a big deal. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:50:14 Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8th, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, and every single wig removal together.
Starting point is 01:50:35 So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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