The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Jess Hilarious' Rumor Report, Laverne Cox, Can You Admit You’re Not A Good Mate? and More!
Episode Date: February 22, 2023Today we are joined once again by our guest cohost Jess Hilarious as she curates the Rumor Report. We are also joined by Laverne Cox to discuss her acting career, LGBTQ+ Community, and more. Finally..., we open the phone lines to ask, "Can you admit you’re not a good mate?".See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Good morning. What's good? I'm here. It's my second day. How you feeling? I ain't gonna keep getting up this early for y'all. Why? Why?
I'm
lying. I don't know, but this is just
a lot. Cosmigos hit the bottom of my stomach
last night. It ain't come out yet. Oh, you went out
yet last night? Down in the lobby.
Oh, in the lobby. Oh, you were in the lobby of the hotel? I was just in the
lobby. And you woke up and did this little
wake and bake this morning? Yeah, absolutely.
I relax.
You're coming here all loud.
It was on you
as soon as you walked in.
She smelled it immediately.
She was trying to walk
past fast like nobody
gonna smell it.
She was trying to walk
past fast and go to her seat
like she in class.
I walked past like a crackhead
like, hey, yo,
what's going on?
It is legal in New York now,
so you can smoke it.
I'm so used to sneaking around.
Sneaking around.
She's walking like
she's sneaking in class. She don't want the teacher to smell her. I'm gonna sit down real quick because she won't notice. I'm so used to sneaking around. She's walking like she's sneaking in class.
You don't want the teacher to smell her.
I'm going to sit down real quick because she won't notice.
She won't notice me smelling like marijuana.
Whatever.
Jesus.
All right.
Well, how are you feeling?
Are you all right?
I feel good.
Yep, I'm good.
I'm good.
Good, good, good.
You know, yesterday when I was leaving the building, we have a security guard.
Well, yeah, a police officer.
We have a few of them.
Yeah, a few of them.
But he was downstairs.
He was like, yeah, you know, I think I seen the, what's the big Greek basketball player?
I'm like, the Greek freak?
He was like, yeah.
He was like, he was in a Greek restaurant next door.
I said, well, how do you, why do you think it was him?
He said, because he was tall.
He was in a Greek restaurant.
I was like, all right, stupid.
That is so stupid.
But I kept it moving.
This morning, Mac was like, you know what I seen yesterday?
The Greek freak.
He was downstairs.
Oh, wow.
He was there. Oh, he was downstairs? Yeah, he was downstairs. And you know who I seen yesterday? The Greek freak. He was downstairs. Oh, wow. So he was there.
Oh, he was downstairs?
Yeah, he was downstairs.
And you thought the guy was just being racist?
I thought he was BS.
I thought he was being a little racist.
Literally.
But nah, he was down there yesterday.
But did they play the Knicks?
They must be playing the Knicks this week.
No, they're on vacation.
Remember, they don't play until Friday.
I checked.
Oh, they don't go back until Friday?
I checked the schedule.
I was like, oh, they're not playing the Knicks.
So I thought he was BSing.
But I guess he just came in town to get some Greek food.
Man, came and got some Greek food and got some Greek ass.
I mean, I hope he's not married
because he's faithful. I think he was with his
girlfriend. Oh, okay, okay. Is she white?
I didn't see him. I don't
know. No, she black, right? Yeah, she black. That's good, man.
Man, drop on the clues, Bon, for all
that new generation of NBA players
breaking all the stereotypes.
The 80s, 90s players was all
with white women. All these brothers got sisters. Salute to them, 90s players was all with white women.
All these brothers got sisters.
Salute to them, man.
They want to be like Braun.
You know what I mean?
Braun got a nice queen at the house.
You know?
Salute to Braun.
The ones that want to be like Mike,
get a white girl.
The ones that want to be like Braun,
get a black woman.
Mike had a black wife at first.
That is true.
He did.
He did?
Absolutely.
No, she did dead.
You said, is she dead
not saying no God is very much alive. She didn't curse. Just didn't curse.
No.
That was a curse?
Oh, she didn't curse.
Yeah, she didn't curse.
Just like, yeah, I ain't get up.
No, he hit the dump button like you cursed.
I said Laverne Cox will be joining us this morning.
I didn't want you to say Cox that hard at the end, yo.
I said, man, Cox.
Yes.
No, you said Laverne Cox will be here today.
Come on.
Say it regular.
I said Laverne Cox. She will be here today. Yo,. Say it regular. I said Laverne Cox.
She will be here today.
Yo, that's just New York.
He just talked real hard.
He said Cox real hard. Y'all really not understanding each other this morning.
No, we're not.
You don't understand the Baltimore.
I get so excited.
You don't understand the New York.
Oh, man.
All right, all right.
All right, let's get the show cracking.
Front page news.
We got to talk about two N words that uh your ex-president
doesn't like to say so we'll get into that next it's the breakfast club good morning morning
everybody it's dj nv charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we got our co-host jess hilarious
joining us what's up and let's get in some front page news now be careful out there for the next
couple of days they're saying a massive winter storm is expected to bring snow and heavy rain uh across the northern united states this week what days now starts today later on this afternoon
they're saying uh snow freezing rain strong winds and a potential flash flooding they said uh
yesterday in new jersey they believe a tornado might have hit jersey so they're uh tracking
that today to see if it was actually a tornado. They said. What else could it be?
The Taifmanian devil?
Like what you mean?
They're checking the day.
They said they're still tracking.
I don't know.
But the storm includes, like I said, northern United States, also Minnesota, Minneapolis.
And they said California might get some snow as well.
Wow.
Yeah.
So the weather's pretty nasty.
Now, also, we didn't report this yesterday, but Biden was talking about using taxpayer dollars to assist Ukraine.
And to deliver much needed humanitarian assistance as well as food, water, medicine, shelter and other aid to Ukrainians displaced by Russia's war and provide aid for those seeking refuge in other countries from Ukraine. It's also going to help schools and hospitals open.
It's going to allow pensions and social support to be paid to the Ukrainian people so they
have something in their pocket.
It's also going to provide critical resources to address food shortages around the globe.
We need to be able to check a box on if we want to do that or not.
I agree.
You know what I'm saying?
Because this is our taxpayer money.
Exactly.
All those things he's talking about, we need right here.
That's right.
Like, literally, we need right here.
Have you looked in your own backyard, President Biden?
That's unbelievable.
I'm not going to ever sit here and act like I know what phone that is.
That's my bad.
I'm not going to ever sit here and act like I'm some geopolitical expert.
But Lord have mercy, man.
Every single thing he's talking about,
I feel like we need in our
own backyard, and I don't even see our taxpayer dollars
going to us right here.
There's a lot of money being sent over to Ukraine,
and like you said, there's so much that
we need here, whether it's education,
whether it's, you know, you talk about the food traps
and all that stuff. There's so much that we need.
Now, also, Donald Trump,
he's comparing the N-word to nuclear.
Nuclear is so devastating
that we don't even want to talk about it.
And that was a word
that was never supposed to be mentioned.
You have two N-words,
neither of which should ever be mentioned.
I said that once.
I said, oh, what a terrible thing to say.
No, you have two N-words.
You know what the one is,
but the other is the nuclear word. Not supposed to ever be mentioned. Ever, what a terrible thing to say. No. You have two N-words. You know what the one is, but the other is the nuclear word.
Not supposed to ever be mentioned.
Ever, ever, ever.
It's mentioned every single day now.
Every single day they talk about
will this end up in nuclear war?
We're on the precipice of a disaster
the likes of which this world has never seen.
This will make World War I
and World War II
like baby stuff.
Trump not wrong.
He wasn't about to end with two N-words.
I'll take all the N-bombs
from white people before I want to take one N-bomb from any
other country. Y'all ain't ready.
Come on, man.
You don't want that?
You don't want people to start going nuke
for nuke. Nope. Okay?
We'll be gone in a matter of hours.
Absolutely.
Come on, man.
Stop.
All right.
Well, that is your front page news.
Now, get it off your chest.
800-585-1051.
If you need to vent, hit us up right now.
Phone lines are wide open.
Again, 800-585-1051.
Hit us up right now.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
The Breakfast Club.
Ray, Ray, Ray.
Yo, Charlemagne, Envy, what up?
Are we live?
This is your time to get it off your chest.
I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool.
We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.
We can get on the phone right now.
He'll tell you what it is.
Are we live?
Hello, who's this?
Yeah, what's up, Envy?
What's up, Chav? It's Charlemagne. What's up, Char? Peace, sis. What's this? Yeah, what's up, Envy? What's up, Trav?
It's Charlamagne. What's up, Char?
Peace, sis. What's happening?
I'm chilling, I'm chilling, I'm chilling.
Say what up to Jess Hilarious.
Well, well, well.
Isn't this Jess not that hilarious?
How are you?
Nah, how you doing?
Don't you start that, Trav, now. You be nice.
I'm not.
Because we're going to go blow for blow, Trav.
I'm not starting nothing.
It seems like they know you. Don't play with me, because I'm going to get to know you in a minute.
Miss Moore.
What's up? Miss Moore. Can I tell you something, Miss Moore?
You better tell it right. What's up?
Change your name to Miss Jess.
Kind of funny because you all kind of funny.
I ain't no hater. She's hilarious.
I take that.
Me and Trav argued about Jess before.
Trav, you was mad at Jess for something.
But I...
That was years ago.
And see, I can't say that she has...
She has said something about the gay community years ago.
That was years ago.
Don't need to bring that up, sir.
Oh, you gay?
Yeah, he gay.
I'm just giving her some context.
I don't want her to think you just coming at her for no reason.
I felt like it was coming from a place
But I ain't know you was gay
Alright what's up with you
Well Laverne Cox is the man today
I did say you kind of funny
You are kind of funny
She's hilarious
What if I be like you kind of straight
You better relax
You better relax
You know what
People be thinking I'm straight when they meet me
You know what I'm saying
Until I get to talking
Until I get to talking
You do act kind of straight
Now that I think about it
He does act kind of straight
He do
Shark
Envy
Jeff listen
I want to talk
I need
I wish I had to right
I think the person
That lives above me
I think he beating his girl up
So why don't you call the police
And I don't know if I can mind my business
Or call the cops on them
No you call the cops
You want nobody to die.
You can beat her to death.
Call the police.
But you got to give us some context.
Why do you think he's doing that?
They could just be having rough sex.
But I don't know because he's African.
I don't know if he just be yelling when he's called.
But, like, he be, like, going off on her and his language.
I don't know what to call.
I be hearing furniture moving.
And he be, like napping on her
And if you make me want to call the cops, I don't know what they talking about. Maybe you should tell the landlord first. Yeah
He the he the maintenance man. Oh
He the maintenance man ain't live upstairs
So we go to work why don't you just go up there as that's the girl she's not gonna see
Yeah, but you can see her face if she's getting beat or something.
Yeah.
You know, I should have been knocking on the door like I'm locked out and see if she opened the door.
There you go.
You should tell somebody if you really feel that way.
Definitely.
If you feel like it's going down up there, you should tell somebody.
No, I really do feel like it's going down.
And I be trying to sleep.
It be late at night.
And I just be hearing boom, boom, boom, man.
Go tell her in a bunch of ass-man shit.
Seriously, I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to say that.
Bye, Trav. You're so crazy, man. Go tell a bunch of ass men shit. Seriously, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to say that. Bye, Trav.
You're so crazy, man.
But get it off your chest.
800-585-1051.
If you need to vent, hit us up now.
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Good morning.
The Breakfast Club.
Ray, Ray, Ray.
Yo, Charlemagne.
Lizzy, what up?
Are we live?
This is your time to get it off your chest.
I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool.
We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.
We can get on the phone right now.
He'll tell you what it is.
Are we live?
Hello, who's this?
What up, man?
This is Charlemagne.
This is Charlemagne.
Metro.
Yeah, man.
I was just calling to say hi.
I'm Charlemagne.
We need to get an opt-out.
I had a friend of mine that's going to a whole other place. Right? He ain't got $10 a pound over, bro, bro.
You understood what he said?
I didn't know if I had bullshit.
Every word.
He said that he agreed with me that we need to be able to opt out on paying taxes, sending money to countries that are at war.
Because something $10 a pound.
I thought he said eggs. What something's, something's $10 a pound. I thought he said eggs.
What? Hello, who's this?
Yo, this is Gerald from Florida.
What's up, what's up? What's happening?
Good morning, sir. Good morning.
Good morning. Is this Chatham and the guys?
Yes, sir.
Did you just tell us we was going to go nuke for nuke with any country in this
world? No, that's not
what I said. I said you don't
want nobody
to be going nuke for nuke. I said we'll all
be dead within a matter of minutes.
Absolutely. But I just
wanted to put on the record
that America
is that country.
We spent so much on military,
no country wants it with us. It will be over within a matter of a second.
Yeah, but you're acting like Russia and China don't have nuclear weapons too, bro, bro.
It's going to be a lot of deaths.
You don't want that.
That's not what you want.
A lot of destruction.
We don't want that at all.
I don't think their nuclear weapons are advanced as ours, as quick as ours.
I think that y'all sound ridiculous, and I think y'all have no idea
what nuclear weapons are.
You do not want nuclear warfare.
We sound stupid.
I hate when people say,
yeah, our weapons are so more advanced.
You don't want that.
How do we know that?
You don't want that.
You do not want countries
to start throwing nukes around.
There's no tomorrow, people,
when that happens.
And we post a letter, ma.
That's right.
Don't do that.
Hello, who's this?
Hey, what's up? Take us off Bluetooth for speaker.
Hey, Envy, I told you, man. I be in the
garbage truck, man. Oh, what's up?
Port-a-party, not Port-a-party, guy.
Sean Stone, what's up? My name is Sean Stone.
Hey, good morning, guys. Just hilarious. Good morning again.
Good morning, baby. How you doing?
I'm doing good, beautiful.
I'm up getting that bag.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
Oh, this is the same one from the barbershop truck.
Yeah.
Okay.
Sanitation truck.
You had a thing.
Okay.
Barbershop.
I thought you said barbershop.
You said barbershop.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
But I want to talk about Trump, man.
I think he's funny, man.
He's one of the coolest white dude out there.
I'm pretty sure he said the N-word before, though.
I'm sure he has.
I'm sure he has.
And then the crazy thing is, is everybody
preparing for this nuclear war yet?
I got canned food. I got a lot of water.
What else I need to get?
Because it's going to pop off.
Sean Stone, y'all got to stop speaking that.
Y'all got to stop speaking that into existence.
Sir, it's going to happen, sir. You see all the Like, no, ain't no watch. It's not going to get to that. Yo, Charlamagne, last week they talking about UFO,
and they wasn't even talking about the big trail of the railman in Ohio
with the chemical spill.
I mean, people have been talking about that.
I mean, it's been all over the news.
It's not been on the news a lot, though.
I'm saying nuclear war is going to happen, brother.
I don't want it to happen, but it's going to happen.
Do y'all understand what nuclear war is when y'all are having these conversations?
When y'all say nuclear war
and the last person who called and said
America got it with nuclear weapons, that's a damn lie.
Russia got the most powerful nuclear weapons.
That's a fact. I think they got the most
nuclear weapons as well,
but they definitely got the most powerful ones.
Y'all don't know.
No, you don't want nuclear war.
Trump is right. That is the
N-word that you don't want to be speaking.
We're just going to depress ourselves on this day already?
Not today.
Because they're saying it so nonchalant.
Do y'all understand what y'all are saying when y'all say nuclear war?
Well, Sean Stone said he got water and canned goods.
And that ain't going to mean nothing when a nuclear is in.
He got canned.
He's going to hide in a garbage truck.
He got water.
If you're speaking nuke, don't none of them cans. He's going to hide in a garbage truck. He got water. He got cans. If you're speaking new, don't.
None of them cans.
This ain't about to be I'm Legend.
At all.
You serious?
At all.
Get it off your chest.
800-585-1051.
Now, we got rumors on the way.
What are we talking about?
T.I. responds to Boosie calling him a snitch and canceling the joint album.
Damn.
All right.
We'll get into all that when we come back.
We coming in hot this morning.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Oh, and Laverne Cox will be joining us next hour.
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Good morning, everybody. It's DJ
Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
We got our guest host, Jess Hilarious,
joining us. What's good? She got her
flat iron charged up. You know what I'm saying?
She done fixed that left side.
First of all, flat irons don't die, Charlamagne.
So, it was never dead.
It was plugged up.
Battery operated.
She said she had to charge her flat iron up.
She didn't warm it up.
Yes, you did.
The one side was straight.
Y'all know how y'all had the blunt cut one side,
bending the other side straight?
No, no.
It looked like the wind was blowing on it.
No, I'm not doing it.
What'd you say about the blunt?
Yo, shut up.
Let's get to the room.
Let's go, go.
It's just for the best.
So my news is real.
Child, the ghetto.
This is the rumor report.
So my news is real.
On The Breakfast Club.
Ooh, honey, is ghetto up in here?
Yes, it is ghetto.
T.I. responds to Boosie Badass
canceling joint album
and calling him a rat.
All right, so Boosie Badass. I'm not calling him that. So Boosie, I just can't album and calling them a rat. Alright, so Boosie Badass
I'm not calling him that.
So Boosie
I just can't
like at a certain age
you're not about
to be badass to me.
Alright,
Boosie Old Ass
he
shared his decision
to shelf his
completed joint album
with T.I.
So they already had
an album
that they completed
and he didn't want
to put it out
because he found out
that T.I.
snitched on his dead cousin.
And they were shooting a reality show together.
Really? Boosie and T.I.?
That would have been good.
It was something about with their sons, I believe.
Oh, wow. That would have been all them damn sons.
Between them two? Their sons are cool, right?
Yeah, their sons are cool.
Oh, wow. Okay. So back in 2020,
during the 2020 episode of
expeditiously uh t.i spoke about an incident um in 2000 where he was caught with a gun and uh we
got the audio right here i take all the charges you got if you can walk away free and put it on
me goddamn right so is that what boy's giving you about because you put it on no hell no okay
don't nobody know about that. I just volunteered.
Don't nobody know about that.
I'm just being honest.
That's the only time.
I done never said or gained no information about nobody.
Because that's my cousin, my big cousin.
He was dead.
First of all, like I said earlier, I think that he just talked and he just
lied to be honest but he really said his lawyer convinced
him to snitch on tootie now tootie is his cousin
uh rest in peace uh rest in peace to tootie yeah you know i'm saying but
that's what podcasts are about volunteering information for no reason
but would you have a problem with that but it ain't real
you don't think it's real i think that ti well for one. Well, for one, T.I. do like to talk.
And he said, oh, they know about that.
Like, that's just something that you just talking.
Volunteering information.
It's volunteering information that ain't real.
I'm telling you, that's not, that's not.
But Boosie didn't like that.
He had something to say.
He recently did an interview with Vlad TV.
I swear he does a Vlad interview every Friday.
I don't know why, but in the video, this is what he said.
With the T.I. situation, if he did that, you're a rat too.
I don't spare no about it.
Because if you're doing anything wrong, you're doing anything criminal wise,
and you cooperate with law enforcement to get you out of trouble,
that means you're cooperating.
That means you're a rat.
But I'm going to tell you like this.
When I saw that, I think T.I. I think he went up there and just got the talking so listen here's the thing two things
here's what i don't understand why do rappers brothers who are no longer in the street who
have legitimate means of getting money why are they still abiding by street rules that's number
one and number two if boosie feels like Jess does that T.I. just talking
and T.I. lying
why are you bugging?
Why are you tripping on T.I.?
Why you don't want to do
the album with him anymore?
Why you calling him a rat?
She called us for life.
But if you think he lying
why you calling him a rat?
Why would you go that far?
You put that narrative out there.
You already
it's like why would you
even want to put that out there?
Then nobody asked you
you just said like
yo that's now when you know about that that's just something that
i did and even though they're not in the streets active there's still rules that they do follow
and that's why i'm a civilian so that's that's ridiculous to me it sounds crazy it sounds like
look if if i have a family member that's dead yeah and i have a chance to not go to jail and
blame it on him and he's not going to get any repercussions. It's not like they're going to put on this grave site, I died with a gun charge.
Yes.
You know why it's ridiculous
to still abide by street rules?
Because when them people come,
the FBI,
and they hit you
with them recall charges,
what's the first thing you say?
I ain't in no gang.
I ain't in the street.
I ain't active.
So why are you acting active now?
Well, you ain't got to be active.
Just, you know.
You know what?
I'm a civilian.
Let me mind my business.
I pay my taxes.
Look, T.I.
Come on with the paying the taxes.
T.I.
He came back.
Listen, he ain't even get on.
I wish he would have just made a video.
Because you don't want to read all that shit, man.
But look, what I do notice is the whole PDF that he did, right?
It ain't one dictionary word in here.
You know, that man, he like to go dictionary and thesaurus on you.
This is how we know he's serious.
It's all slang.
Like, I can't even understand it.
He went all Atlanta.
He had to be like Grant Cardone.
He had to speak in a vernacular that these Negroes understand.
He really dumbed it down.
He bonics.
Yo, he said, yeah, so I don't know if it's you or your OG uncle that needs to see it,
but I got my paperwork
ready to show pull up my number's still the same my address the same my nigga i'd never speak
certain disrespect on your name slash reputation about an if homie the convict man look i'm nah
nah he ain't never talked like this that's how i know he was typing too fast man he wanted to get
that off his chest obviously i thought we was something that we wasn't.
So, basically, he's just disappointed in him or whatever.
But I just felt like, yeah, I feel both.
All right, yo, you could have hit me up if you had a problem.
But I also feel like, T.I., you just can't go out there talking.
You know, he don't even like when people do that.
Yeah, I didn't like none of that because all the times I've seen T.I., you know, stand up for Boosie.
You know, when Boosie has said something crazy and he's getting backlash and T.I.'s come to his defense.
And once again, if Boosie thought that
T.I. was lying and he thought T.I. wasn't
telling the truth, then why even go that far with it
on the Vlad TV interview? Why call that
man a rat? I just hate, like you said, they got
history together. And those brothers, like you said,
were shooting videos. Their kids are cool.
They stood up for each other before.
I just felt like it should have been a phone call. Let's have a conversation.
Absolutely. And if we don't want to mess with each other,. I just felt like it should have been a phone call. Let's have a conversation. Absolutely.
And if we don't want to mess with each other, we just don't.
Absolutely.
Don't play to the crowd so much and have to explain yourself to these people so much before you explain yourself to your real partner.
If you got a question about your real partner, pick up the phone and ask him.
And they're supposed to be friends.
Boosie feel some type of way, though, about it.
He's so extra.
Play this last little clip play play this play this
I'm like, why don't he say that when we got a man's gonna come out? Okay, like it was like
Okay, so is that I'm coming out? No. Oh
So you have a finished album with TI that's not coming out. No because it ruined everything because of that it ruined everything
I woke up with my motherfucking phone, everything full.
Like, Boosie, you cannot do an album, Boosie.
My real fans, like, Boosie, you the last one left.
What?
You know, my uncle OG called me.
Like, Boosie?
F*** that album, man.
My uncle called me.
F*** that album, man.
Coming up.
He told you that.
Yo, my uncle's OG, n***a.
61.
Why is this old ass 61 calling you, telling you you the last one left?
Last one left where?
What y'all doing?
Y'all too old for this.
Drop that damn album, give the people what they want.
Moving on.
Rapper Da Brat is expecting her first child with wife Jessica Judy Harris to part.
That's amazing.
Da Brat is 48, all right?
We got audio to help you out.
All right.
The journey, the complications.
I was hospitalized with blood clots.
It's just been a lot, but we're not giving up.
And me.
We want a baby together.
So we wanted to be, you know, we want some of me, we want some of her.
So we both had to go through different things to make it happen.
Yeah.
It's just been a journey.
I have been to the doctor more than I ever have in my whole life.
My goodness.
How many pap smears a woman got to get?
Damn.
And you're still trying?
No, well, I'm not going to say we're still trying.
We are on our way.
Jess, let me ask you a question.
What's that?
Now, she did say some of me, some of her.
Yeah.
Yeah, I didn't know.
I was going to ignore that.
And I'm glad you brought that up.
I ain't even, I heard that, but I.
Yeah.
So I don't know if they take one of her.
No.
Did it take, I don't know if they took like a half of her egg and then put the two
eggs and then with the sperm we'd have to ask the in vitro doctor i don't know how that works how
that goes i want to know is it safe for a 48 year old woman to have a baby i think it's i i think
it's beautiful but i just have one question the breast so you the one no jessica you the one doing
the bending now i'm joking They my people
They my people
And it went over your head
I would like
I would like to have a doctor
Tell us if it's safe
For a 48 year old
But didn't Janet Jackson
Have a baby at 50?
Allegedly
Allegedly
Yeah we'll never know
Allegedly
Yeah
We don't know
Oh congratulations
Congratulations
We see the brass
But she had on the Bulls jersey
In the 50s She had the starter She had the starter Chicago Bulls Jersey in the first Chicago Bulls
years ago the maternity was fired in front of the airbrush backdrop millennium
tour baby the Brat you crazy baby congratulations congratulations all
right and that is your rumor report now when we come back we got to tell you
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And they're filing a $100 million lawsuit.
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morning everybody it's dj nv charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we got our co-host
jess hilarious joining us yes let's get in some front page news now malcolm x's family is filing
a hundred million dollar lawsuit alleging uh alleging the cover-up of his assassination.
Get your money.
The government's admission that they conceal evidence involving the assassination of Malcolm X,
the truth of what happened and who was involved has always been critical. And so for this great injustice, we will be filing a wrongful death lawsuit against these governmental entities for $100 million on behalf of his daughters that are coming forward.
They deserve it all. Get your money.
OK, that was absolutely a hit job conspired by the powers that be.
They killed that great leader and used the disputes that was happening between Malcolm and the NOI to frame the NOI for that murder.
Okay, so they didn't just take out a great man.
They dismantled a great movement at the time.
So I want them to get all their money.
A hundred million, not enough, by the way.
That was Ben Crump, attorney Ben Crump.
Now, Malcolm.
Ben Crump gotta be tired.
Yeah, he's tired.
Yeah, he gotta be tired.
He got a case with me next month.
Do it?
Yeah, you gotta give me some money for Master P.
You stupid.
I'm just stupid, man.
I'm on my 15, yo.
I'm stupid.
Come on, Ben, you help me out.
Man, that'll be so funny if Jess Lyons gets Ben Crump to get her money back from Master P.
Yo, that's stupid, yo.
That's gotta be stupid. Now, actor Ben Stein, he's facing some backlash because he talked about Aunt Jemima's syrup.
I sometimes do it just to make breakfast for dinner.
Aunt Jemima yummy pancake syrup.
Now, this used to show a large African-American woman chef,
but because of the Americans corporate culture, they decided to make it a white person or maybe no person at all.
But I prefer it when it's a black person showing their incredible skill at making pancakes.
So God bless you all. Have a good night.
Now, people are mad about that. Man, shut up.
I swear they're mad about that.
You said he missed out your mama. They're mad about that. Man, shut up, man. I swear they are mad about that. Because he said he missed Haji Mama?
Yes.
Or is he mad about the large black person?
They mad about the large.
He said the large black chef.
He said chef.
He didn't say slave.
He said chef.
Yeah, he said large.
I don't remember if Haji Mama was large or not.
We don't.
We only seen her head and her neck.
How do you know?
I don't remember if she was large.
She was large.
Did you see her?
Nah, you just see her head.
Look, look.
Right, that's why I said, how did we know that she was large?
Yeah, I don't remember seeing Aunt Jemima's body.
Actually, before too.
Because Ms. Butterworth was the bottle.
Yeah, yeah.
So she was actually snatched up.
But, you know what I'm saying?
So it's because he called her large?
That's what I believe.
I'm not mad at none of it.
But if we're going to go with anything, it's going to be, there was a large African-American
woman.
That's what they made it.
It's the large.
The man said he missed Aunt Jemima and he don't want no white people on his bottom it feels odd to go to the store and buy it
and don't see on your mama on it to me I want to see pearl milling company I like
to see exactly that beautiful black that's right when I see that black face
I know is I know it's legit yeah it was a Jerry it was a little when y'all say
people are mad who mad
social media man stop man stop paying attention to them idiots on digital d-heads online
there's a new bill in florida you know there's a lot going on in florida and florida passed this
new bill i don't know if you guys are into it but the new bill in florida would ban dogs from
sticking their heads out of car windows how how are we going to tell them? Did not do that.
How?
I don't know.
But with everything going on in the world,
that's what Florida's doing.
What's the reasoning?
I need more context.
Everything going on in Florida.
Y'all worrying about dogs sticking their head out the window?
They said pets sometimes get seriously injured by objects
as you drive down the road.
You know, pets can't wear helmets,
so they get slapped in the face with rocks, pebbles,
and bugs. I've never seen that. I've never
seen nobody driving with their dog hanging out
the window and, like, the dog head hit a car
or hit a truck or something like that. Yeah, none of that.
I've never seen that either, but
that's a new bill in Florida, so you go
Florida. And lastly, I don't know if you...
I always wonder about that, though, because how hot is the car
that the dog got to stick his head out the window?
No, they just like the wind. The wind blowing in their face.
They just like the wind.
You know what I mean?
It don't even be hot.
It don't even be hot.
For real.
And lastly, you guys had the first iPhone when it came out?
Yeah.
I don't remember.
Yeah, it looked like an iPod, yeah.
Y'all still have it?
No.
Well, somebody just auctioned off one of their first iPhones, and they got $63,000 for that
iPhone. What did it look like wow which one
was that uh iphone the one oh the one the one first first meeting one jess shut up yeah the
first apple but this person had it in a box it was never opened it was still sealed but they got 63
000 for the phone when the phone came out it was only worth about 5.99 but she got 63 000 her name
was karen green and then she's oh let's play i know what race that is yes what race it is now
her last name green now all right that'll make my first name karen right and she bought a phone
for 63 000 no she had it she sold the phone for $60. Oh, no, the person who bought it was white.
I don't know what she was.
Yeah, the person who bought it was white.
There we go.
All right, well, that is your front page news.
Now, when we come back, Laverne Cox will be joining us.
Yes.
And we're going to kick it with Laverne Cox when we come back, so don't move.
Why you had to double say the name?
What?
We kicking it with Laverne Cox because Laverne Cox is here.
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Laverne Cox when we come back
at The Breakfast Club.
Again, again.
The Breakfast Club.
Really cool.
And we're prepping to do a show
with Norman Lear,
the legendary Norman Lear.
Called Clean Slate,
George Wallace,
the legendary comedian
plays my dad.
Wow.
It's set in my hometown
of Mobile, Alabama.
It's a comedy
and it's about this woman
who goes back home and tries to reconnect with her dad after many years of being away so we start
shooting that in savannah like next month oh my god i don't think this era ready for norman lear
comedy norman lear's the jeffersons and good times well i don't think they're ready one day
one day at a time did really well. And he has new shows.
Norman is 100 years old and he's still producing shows and people are watching.
So as long as they're watching, we're going to keep creating.
As long as they're watching.
Yeah, Norman is amazing.
He is getting to know him and just being in a room with him when we pitched the show to him was just iconic.
We sat in the room with him for like 90 minutes.
And after the meeting, he said he was 96 at the time.
He said, i learned more
about life in this last hour that i should have known that i didn't know and i'm so grateful
and we started working together on pitching this show and it took years and now here we are i want
to go back for people that don't know this is the vernon cox first time on a breakfast club yes
so how did you get into acting what made you want act? What got you into that mind frame as a kid?
I've always been a performer.
So I started as a dancer.
So I'm 50 years old.
So back in the day.
Damn.
I mean, but that's good.
That's good.
That's really good.
And so I started studying dance in third grade,
but I always knew I wanted to act,
that I would transition to acting.
And when I got to college,
I was a dance major at Marymount Manhattan College
and started acting there. So I was a dance major at Marymount Manhattan College and started
acting there so I've been acting like since college and did my first movie my senior year
at Marymount in 1996 that's what you wanted to do I always knew but then I finally accepted being
trans when I was in 1998 and started transitioning and I was like well there aren't any trans actors
so I don't know if I can't really be an actor and be trans and so I went to fashion school for three semesters and
went to FIT and then I was like I don't really want to do this I love fashion
but I don't want to do it and then like I did a few more movies just auditioned
and got a few independent films and then I started training seriously with this
woman named Susan Batson who was an iconic acting coach but finally 20 years
after I moved to New York I got my big break in Orange is the
New Black. How was auditioning for that? Because, you know, at first, I'm sure people didn't
necessarily say, I don't know if Laverne fits this or how difficult was that being turned down?
I mean, it was years of no's. I mean, the reason why it took 20 years is that there were no roles
for me. So at Susan's studio, she would have industry nights and I would audition for casting
directors and agents and they'd be like, you're very talented, but there's no roles for me. So at Susan's studio, she would have industry nights, and I would audition for casting directors and agents, and they'd be like,
you're very talented, but there's no roles for
you. You're trans. It's like, maybe you
should move to LA. And so it was constantly
that. And every once in a while,
a trans something or drag thing
would come up. And a lot of times in the beginning when
I was auditioning, it would say drag queen,
but I would just go in, and they didn't know the difference between
drag and trans. And I would book
or I wouldn't book.
And so for years, there just weren't roles for me.
And so when the Orange is New Black audition came along,
I actually was going to stop acting.
I turned 40 that year.
So this was 11 years ago.
It was 2012.
I turned 40.
The big break hadn't happened.
I was like, well, girl, you're 40.
You're black.
You're trans.
Who do you think you're kidding, thinking you can do this?
And I was studying for my GRE to go to grad school.
I was in student loan debt.
It was a mess, girl.
I was in rent arrears.
Like, I was on a payment plan to avoid eviction from my apartment.
I love that you looked at me and said girl.
You said girl, right?
When I say I love that, that ruins my heart.
Girl is gender neutral.
So girl is gender neutral.
Like, a lot of people say dude, and it's gender neutral.
Girl is gender neutral for me
It's everybody's girl
So I'm girl all the time
He call me girl all the time
See
It is
It is what it is
So
But the great thing about
When the Orange audition
Had happened
Is that
Even though it was a struggle
I had been in acting class
Every week
Because I loved it
And this is what I say to people
If you want to be an actor
And you don't love it You should do something else because you're going to be too old, too young,
too short, too thin, too trans, too black, too white. And so all the rejection, I kept loving
it. And so I kept, even though I kind of gave up hope, I kept going to class because I love acting.
And so when the audition came along, I did the one audition i booked it and then this juicy role came along
and this beautiful writing and i was prepared i was ready because i trained i had done independent
films for free student films for free i did everything i could to get experience and so
when this opportunity came i was ready and i and and i love that oprah says this thing is luck luck
is only when preparation meets opportunity.
And when my opportunity came, I was prepared.
And I'm still here.
And I still love what I do.
And I get to do so many different things now.
I love that I'm an actor, but I also get to host red carpets.
And I have an interview show.
That's amazing.
That's what I wanted to ask you.
Do you like one more than the other?
Do you like being in that live red carpet space more than you do?
I love it.
I didn't think I would.
When E! approached me, I was like,
well, I hosted their Countdown show in 2020
and had a lot of fun doing it.
And then they asked me to be their new red carpet host.
And I was like, do I want to do this?
And will people forget that I act?
And acting has always been this.
Even though I've always done a lot of different things,
I know that I'm an actor first.
And that's what I prioritize.
And that's why people even care about me.
But I love it.
At the Grammys recently, I interviewed Machine Gun Kelly,
and he came to the carpet really vulnerable.
It was intense.
I was like, what's going on here?
It was a different energy than I'm used to.
He cried, I think, right?
And he was really emotional.
He found out in the car on the way there that he had lost the Grammy.
And he was planning to win.
And he had built up, basically he said that he had built up like all of this,
I'm going to prove people wrong.
And I'm going to be valid now because I've won this Grammy.
And he didn't win it.
And he actually had the courage to be vulnerable and admit that on live television.
And it was a beautiful raw moment
and I love being able
to hold space for that.
I have a show
with E called
If We're Being Honest
that's on Peacock
and it's an interview show
and I get to hold space
for complexity,
for people's humanity.
We laugh,
we cry.
This is the stuff I love
where we can like
have real moments
with the guests
I'm speaking with
and then
hopefully the audience.
I wanted to ask you about the red carpet thing because I wanted to ask you, what did you
learn in the moment with Will and Jada?
We love you.
Thank you for all the years of joy you've brought us.
Thank you.
We can't wait for more Red Table Talk and more entanglements.
No more entanglements.
No more entanglements. No more entanglements.
After you received the backlash and everything,
what did you learn?
Oy vey.
I learned that the world was not ready
for the evolved relationship
that they were presenting us.
Because when I...
I just jokingly said,
we're looking for more entanglements.
I love Red Table Talk.
I love this mess.
And people thought I was being shady.
And I talked to Jada afterwards.
She was fine.
She thought it was funny.
But the world interpreted it as mess.
I feel like their intention was for us to see a different way to do relationships that wasn't like this traditional thing.
And the world made it into mess.
Traditional heteronormative monogamous ideas about what a
relationship should look like i think everyone can do relationships on their own terms and should
do relationships in their own terms and i think they're doing that and the people just don't get
it all right we got more with laverne cox when we come back don't move it's the breakfast club
good morning everybody it's dj envy charlamagne the guy
we are the breakfast club we're still kicking it with laverne cox and our guest host jess hilarious
is here you know being a comedian we we often speak on nothing is off limits you know i'm saying
like we we speak on things that you know people in this in these days these days and times may take a total different way than we're trying to, you know, put it out there.
Do you think that because a comedian has a joke about LGBT that they're homophobic?
Like, what are your thoughts on that?
Because I got a lot of jokes about the LGBT, but I have a lot of jokes about the LGBT but I have a lot of jokes about
straight people too yeah I everybody I think it's really complicated I interviewed um
Cameron Esposito on my show if we're being honest and Cameron's a non-binary stand-up comic and
Cameron thinks you should be able to joke about anything right um but Cameron also said that a
lot of comedians who have problems
who are saying they're always being canceled and they can't aren't allowed to joke anymore
aren't used to getting feedback so so there's that piece and I think too that one can
say something or do something that may be homophobic or racist and not be racist. Right. But there's a difference between I am like a statement of
Brene Brown distinguishes between shame and guilt is shame is I am a mistake
and guilt is I made a mistake.
Right.
So I think that's an important distinction to make that someone can unknowingly
say something or do something that's transphobic and not be transphobic.
I was on set for a show that I was doing many years ago and one of my coworkers who I adore
and we're still friends to this day said the T word, the T word that ends with a Y.
And I wasn't upset by it, but I was like, I understood in that moment that my coworker
didn't understand that a lot of trans people, if you said that word would have a problem.
So it's just like something just like with racism, right?
Like I could think somebody can do something racist or say something racist, not necessarily
intending it, um, in a certain way, they're words that we might not even know are problematic
and we just don't know, but it is racist.
It is transphobic.
I mean, for you you it's a comic i mean i mean have you been criticized or critiqued for some of your lgbtq most definitely most
definitely but how did that make you feel it made me i was mad i was very upset because i'm like
how can you say i'm homophobic homophobic because of this and because of that and then and then it
comes the thing of like if you say oh yo you know my brother gay oh I got a gay best friend then they
still put you in a box like well that's like saying my best friends are black
and you get misgendered a lot Jess which I hate what you get misgendered a lot oh yeah yeah yeah people always you know say i was born a man and all that and i hate that
and how does that make you feel how does it make you feel the when people when people misgender you
as a as a non-trans woman i honestly have never got upset i actually started putting it
in my jokes but it's other people that a lot of black women for me a lot of black women get upset
about that yeah i'm gonna be totally honest with you. I got upset that I caught this guy.
He was LGBT.
He called me the T word that ended with a Y,
and I called him the F word.
And I felt like, but it was blew up because I said,
I felt like, all right, slur for slur.
And he's like, oh, you know, everybody's like,
you're not a part of the community.
You can't say that.
What gives him the right to tell me that I'm a T word? Like, you can, everybody's like, you're not a part of the community. You can't say that. Well, it gives him the right to tell me
that I'm a T word.
Like, you can't do that.
Did he know that you were...
He was being smart.
He knew exactly that I was a woman,
that, you know, that I'm born a woman,
am a woman, but like,
you hit me below the belt.
And you weren't saying it
because you were,
you really thought that you said that
because you knew that...
Trying to insult you.
Trying to insult you.
Something like that. Oh, yeah. There was, I think, was it one of the city girls because you really thought that you said that because you knew that- Trying to insult you. Trying to insult you.
Oh, yeah.
I think, was it one of the city girls who just has a lyric about pretty transgender?
It shouldn't be an insult to say that someone,
I mean, look at me.
That's how he tried.
Right, look at you.
It shouldn't be an insult to say that someone looks trans.
Trans is beautiful.
Right.
And I think, too, when in that moment, using that F slur, you were mad.
I was upset.
For me, I decided many years ago, I had an incident in a gay club.
And I was co-hosting an event.
And I used the F word.
I said, use some loud F words.
This was years ago.
After the show,
these two black gay men
came up to me
and read me for,
they read me for filth.
And I'm there with my friend Ari.
May he rest in peace.
And I'm like,
no, we're reclaiming that word
and I'm trans.
And they were like,
not having it.
And I talked to my friend Ari
and I was self-righteous.
I was like,
we're reclaiming that word.
We're taking the power away from that word. And Ari was like, absolutely. Then I talked to my friend Ari and I was self-righteous. I was like, we're reclaiming that word. We're taking the power away from that word.
And Ari was like, absolutely.
Then I talked to my brother.
My brother identifies as a practicing homosexual.
He doesn't like the word gay.
He thinks it's a white bourgeois construct.
And he prefers the idea of practiced orientation.
Anyway, we're twins.
And I talked to my brother about it.
And I expected my brother to be like, yeah, they were crazy and they were wrong.
And my brother was like, that's not your word to reclaim.
And I was like, but no, but no.
And he's like, that's not your word to reclaim.
And then he said it a third time.
Then I started crying.
Yeah.
Because I had to admit that I said something that was hurtful.
I saw the hurt in their eyes.
I didn't.
I immediately became defensive.
And that defensiveness i get but
that uncomfortability that moment of sitting with like i hurt somebody and i didn't intend to right
but i hurt somebody and that felt awful do you ever get tired of being uh i don't want to say
the face but the person that everybody comes to when there's a joke that people don't like or
when somebody says something in a lyric or the spokesperson do you get tired of that i'm not
anymore there's so many more of us and what i what i love about my career and what i'm really proud
of is that i'm the first openly trans person to be nominated for an acting emmy but i'm not the last
i'm the first trans person to be on the cover of Time Magazine, but I'm not the last. There are so many more trans people with the platform now. What I am frustrated by with these
legislative attacks against trans people now is that people aren't talking to enough trans people.
There's like lots of pundits and people who like talk about trans issues without a trans person in
sight. There used to be a time, I'm old enough, where, you know, people would talk about trans
issues and actually bring on trans people to talk. I can can't what I've learned is I can't speak on every issue because
it's exhausting this stuff is also traumatizing transphobia is traumatizing racism is traumatizing
misogyny is traumatizing and I can't live in that space I can't live in that space all the time and
I know that 2020 taught me that too. I'm honored
that I've been chosen,
I think, by a power greater than myself to
be a vessel for all of the
visibility that trans people have
now. And
it used to feel like a lot of pressure
and I used to feel this obligation
to speak up about everything. And now
I pray to God that
I'd say thank you,
but I'm like, can I wear this light,
more lightly and with more joy?
And I'm getting there.
I'm in and I'm getting there by staying in the love.
I do want to ask,
since we're talking about it,
when it comes to gender identity,
should we let kids wait until they are older
to make that decision?
Because I know that's a big political topic.
It is a big conversation right
now and what i say to that is that if you are not a trans child or have a parent or a parent of a
child who thinks they might be trans it's none of your business i think what has been happening with
the gop specifically now and all the like we have to protect kids kids and sports kids this kiss that
it's never been about kids.
It's always been about stigmatizing trans people.
There's a law in Oklahoma that was just introduced that would ban gender affirming care up until the age of 26.
This tells me what I've already always known.
That's never been about kids.
It's about making trans people not exist.
Donald Trump just made a speech saying we need to ban gender affirming care for everybody.
He may have misspoken. He misspeaks a lot. But he said we need to ban gender affirming care for everybody. He may have misspoken.
He misspeaks a lot.
But he said we need to ban it for everybody.
That is the plan.
So I think when we are talking about someone else's access to health care or bodily autonomy, it's nobody else's business whether they're a child or an adult.
The American Academy for Pediatrics, the American Medical Association, the Endocrine Society have a set of protocols and they're all well respected for treating trans kids.
And that should be handled by doctors, not legislators, not people who are not involved.
All right, well, don't move. We have more with Laverne Cox when we come back.
It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Laverne Cox and our special guest host is here, Jess Hilarious.
Charlamagne?
You know, I'm glad you're here because we can even help Jess unpack another little bit
of trauma that she went through.
Remember, Jess, I saw you say this on the Don't Call Me White Girl podcast.
Yeah.
There was a guy hollering at you.
Flew out.
And you was into him.
Yeah, tried to fly you out.
I wasn't into him.
I thought you said you was into him.
I thought you said you was into him, trying to fly you out.
Okay.
There was this guy.
He's known. Everybody know him. He's a singer. My family. Oh, I didn't know that part he's known everybody know me singer
The ones that will act like they didn't but yeah, he DM to me and he was like he wanted me to
Have sex with him have Yeah, have sex with him.
But he wanted me to bend him over.
He wanted you to strap on.
No, he thought I had that already.
Came like that.
He thought that you were a trans woman
who had not had bottom surgery.
And he really wanted this experience.
And he didn't only hit me once or twice.
And he's known, girl, after the show,
you need to tell me who it is.
I might know who it is, girl.
Look, and she might not even be shocked.
But the thing is, yeah.
These things don't surprise me, no.
And I was like, wow.
And this was traumatizing for you?
No, I just was like, no, it wasn't.
It was not.
Shailene, you're a mess.
No, bro, I'm not telling you.
You're a mess.
Girl, you're a mess.
He was trying to insult me.
He just literally thought that I was, you know, so I wasn't. He thought you were you're a mess he was trying to insult me he just literally
thought that I was
you know
he thought you were
trans and so he was
he was really wanting
I wasn't upset at all
when I seen the money
I was like dang
I wish I did
had one of those
cause he was
exactly what you
wanted
he thought you were
a sex worker
yes
he thought you were
a sex worker
he thought you were
trans
people always
often assume that trans people are sex workers.
We're not all sex workers.
There's other things we can do.
And this is not to demean sex work.
Sex workers should be decriminalized and all that.
Wow.
And when I told him, and look, and when I was like, okay, so no, I am a woman.
He was like, oh, damn.
All right, well, see. It was like, you can still fly me know woman he was like oh damn all right well see like it was like
you can still fly me out for the money if you but no he didn't want it i think very specific yeah
very specific and he wasn't disrespectful after he wasn't and i wasn't about to put that up you
know none of that but he was really like now i wouldn't say disappointed but it was like, oh, damn you not.
I think that we have to
it's tricky to talk about sex
with trans folks because we're often sexualized.
And so to have an adult conversation about sex
and sexuality and not, again, to elevate
the humanity of trans people. This is my work
to elevate the humanity of trans people this is this is my work to elevate the humanity
of trans people but there are straight identified men who enjoy being pegged having a woman strap on
who enjoy a trans woman who might you know give them that that that pleasure and they still
identify as straight because she's still a woman right so i think that like a more evolved
conversation that a lot of people aren't ready for is that a sex act does not define your sexuality.
Nobody can tell you who you are.
Nobody can tell you who you are.
So you people, sexuality exists on a spectrum.
And I think it's like really problematic when we find out that someone enjoys something sexually and then we start telling them that they are gay
or start telling them of their sexuality.
It is not our business to tell somebody their sexuality.
If they're in the closet, if they're in denial,
that's actually not our business either.
So there's too much of that.
I think we can allow,
and people are doing all sorts of things sexually.
And I think it's all wonderful.
I think it's great.
Live your life as long as it's consensual.
Right.
And everybody is an adult.
And it's great.
And I think that, like, it's an advanced concept, but separating a sex act from someone's sexuality,
I think it's something that's very evolved that I would love for people to be able to do.
So Charlamagne does a sex act to me. No, I just love the people to be able to Charlamagne doesn't necessarily mean he's gay that's what she's saying it's
wrong that's right but not I just love regular other people I just love the
fact that a transformer potentially took one of justice prospects that's what I found you found the girl I could strap on did you offer that
yes because the money you did okay you should tell the girls who this is the
sex worker girls out there there is a man a singer offering 50,000 and they better give me a piece
how old is he how old is he oh he's like he's over 50 oh he's like this was like somebody we
listened to like back in the disney hey stop don do that. We're still listening to them right now.
$50,000.
A lot of girls can use that.
And so I did.
You know, I had to talk it over with my best friend.
What's wrong with you?
It's so good.
It's so beautiful to be a black trans woman and not need that money.
It's so beautiful to make my own money. Can we talk about this, please?
Yes, Barbie. Yes, can we get
the Barbie? Can we talk about
Barbie in the same conversation that we were talking
about this? Will Mattel
be okay with us having that conversation
and then talking about this?
I want to know, how did this doll come
about? Was this a dream of yours?
It was. When I found out Ava DuVernay
had a doll, I was like, I want a doll too. When I said to myay had a doll i was like i want a doll too when i said to my manager paul i was like i want a barbie and like
i don't know if he reached out but like several years later mattel reached out and said we'd love
to do a barbie and we're doing a tribute collection and i said absolutely it's like it was a dream and
it was i have a i've talked a lot about this when the bar came out, but when I was a kid, I wanted a Barbie,
and my mom did not allow me to play with Barbies.
It was forbidden.
And I was in therapy, and I told that story to my therapist,
and my therapist said,
it's never too late to have a happy childhood.
You can reparent that inner child.
I think you should go and buy yourself a Barbie.
Did you?
And play with her.
I absolutely did.
I bought a Barbie, played with her, I dressed her,
and it was healing and then
i told my mom about it and then my mom started sending me barbies it's always missing oh really
my mom started sending me barbies god this oh oh i'm not gonna cry on the breakfast club it's really
sweet um black barbie absolutely yeah she started sending me black barbies and it was just this
wonderful like that we all have a little kid inside of us
that that needs attention that needs healing and um yeah she's been i've been taking really good
care of my inner child and barbie has been a huge part of that and so what was so exciting for me
about having my own barbie is that other people can have this space of whatever age you are to like reparent your inner child or
and and have and know that you can be trans or non-binary and that like you exist it's my last
question i guess it's more like even though a statement i guess the the challenge i have
is a personality is i often wonder what's more impactful right because you're laverne cox to me
like you're not transgender actress laverne cox you're laverne cox you got a lot of things going
on so i wonder what's more powerful just Cox you got a lot of things going on
so I wonder
what's more powerful
just having you on
a platform like this
and just having a conversation
about everything
that you're doing
or allowing you
to speak to your
transness
I can do both
find a girl
who can do both
for me
it's like
just living my life
I'm 50 years old
living my life I worked in restaurants in old living my life working i worked in
restaurants in new york for 20 years i did not go to the restaurant talking about my transness when
i was working a coffee shop i just went to the restaurant i was myself and some people knew i
was trans some people didn't they they but they got to know me as a human being and that was the
most powerful thing ever when i'm on stats, I'm not educating people or doing diversity and inclusion training.
I'm doing my job.
And showing up and doing me has been the best way.
So I think it's like, it's about our humanity.
Yes, I'm trans, but like, I'm so much more than that.
And every trans person is so much more than that.
And just our humanity.
Like, we've always been here.
We've been second-class citizens.
If we're going to acknowledge that these folks are here, and just our humanity. Like, we've always been here. We've been second-class citizens.
If we're going to acknowledge that these folks are here,
let's just, like, respect them and let them be.
And it shouldn't affect you.
It really shouldn't.
And I think that, like, I feel like a lot of men who get upset about trans women,
it's like they want to be misogynist
and they want to, like, holler at a girl
and know that she was assigned female at birth,
and they get upset.
And it's like, that's not my problem
that you're attracted to me.
It's not, like, my problem that you clicked,
swiped right on me on a dating app.
Like, it just unmatch and move on.
It's like, people get so...
And then I think for...
It's not my fault I made you jump.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Hell.
Well, Laverne Cox, ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you for joining us.
Make sure y'all check out If We're Being Honest with Laverne cox ladies and gentlemen thank you for joining us
y'all check out if we're being honest with laverne cox on peacock yes yes and oscar's red carpet
that's right march 12th that's right march 12th well thank you so much for joining us we appreciate
you and uh don't be a stranger thank you it's the breakfast club it's laverne cox all right
morning everybody it's dj envy charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club our co-host Jess Hilarious is here. And shout out to Laverne Cox.
If you want to see that full interview, you can hit up the website, breakfastclubonline.com.
Thank you, Laverne, for pulling up to The Breakfast Club.
I don't know who told her she was banned from The Breakfast Club, but that was a lie.
Yeah, that was a lie. Great conversation. Over an hour conversation as well.
She stepped in with that Mugler, honey.
What that is?
The Mugler.
Oh, the outfit. All right, well, let's in with that Mugler, honey. What that is? The Mugler. Oh, the outfit.
Yeah, the outfit.
The outfit.
All right, well, let's get to the rumors.
Let's go.
It's just for the mess.
Somebody needs to bring it.
Oh, the ghetto.
This is the rumor report.
Somebody needs to bring it.
On The Breakfast Club.
Ooh, honey, there's ghetto up in here.
Yeah, there's ghetto too.
Gucci Mane wanted to join BMF, but was allegedly denied by Big Meech.
All right, so apparently back in the day, Gucci Mane, he did want to be a part of BMF, the actual label, but he was turned down.
During an interview, former BMF rapper Blue Da Vinci mentioned that Big Meech chose not to sign Gucci because he was way too wild.
We got the audio.
The proof is in the pudding.
I knew he was like, that's why Meech didn't let the n***a be a part of the mob.
Because that n***a Gucci crazy, bro.
That n***a will f*** you up.
Yeah, alright.
Y'all n***a playing with that n***a like he a rapper.
He is a rapper.
Some of these n***as become rappers, y'all.
Some of these n***as was ignorant n***as before rapping and they caught an opportunity.
And like out there in Atlanta, bro, n***as used to drive.
I swear to God, bro, I was at Gucci.
He had a studio house in his hood.
This is when he was Gucci on the moon after all this.
After I didn't came back home from prison and ride through busing at this studio while I'm inside the studio.
Because they just know where his studio at in the hood.
Like he's that kind of rapper.
Well, I'm glad BMF had standards. Absolutely. absolutely okay he didn't get the proper references so he couldn't
get the job i totally understand i wonder how it would work anyway because remember bmf was
really close with gz at one time right wasn't gz one of the artists and gz and gucci had that
long lasting boy this was before gucci and gz but that was before that beat it probably would
have might probably would have stopped that beat from even probably squash you gotta think gz and
gucci was presented to us through So Icy.
That was their record together.
But this speaks to what you were saying earlier when you was like, yo, why do rappers get money?
I mean, why do rappers get money and they still want to live?
Like, they in the streets.
Like Da Vinci just said, yo, some niggas just be like that and then get opportunities.
They can't change who they are just because they're getting money.
But I will say, salute to that man Gucci forci for his evolution because lord have mercy all you see
gucci do gucci be with his wife yeah his kids you can tell he working out taking care of himself
gucci be going to therapy gucci got that's what you want that's how you should grow if you're a
rapper that is absolutely what you want now apparently me didn't want any loose cannons
in bmf and he felt gucci man could be a risk, Blue Da Vinci said.
Now, I'm going to read just a little bit.
Gucci used to always be in a club on the wall looking at niggas with a drink in his hand with his hat down trying to get him a victim.
Meech knew him.
He was cool and he tried to get down with the mob, but Meech was telling niggas like, nah, man, this nigga about to be out here robbing niggas.
And we want you to go to the audio.
Yo. I didn't say nothing about no audio i don't know what's going on we ain't got no audio i'm about to turn yo i'm about to turn
in the gucci in here yo y'all gotta chill chill with me man It's no audio. It's no audio. It's no audio, right? No, it's the audio. Yo, stop playing. I'm going to stop this show.
Yo, stop playing.
You're messing with her, yo.
Yo, man, all three of y'all better stop playing right now, yo, for real.
It's only three of us.
One, two, three.
I'm talking about the little right there, too.
Damn, I'm the one in the hat that don't ever say nothing.
Just be over there clicking the audio.
All right.
So that's the thing, though.
So you be off your...
Shut up, Charlamagne.
But it's said that Blue Da Vinci...
Like, it was rumored that he was a snitch.
So we can't really take his...
Where you getting this from, Josh?
Huh?
We heard it somewhere.
Remember, they were saying that Blue Da Vinci might have been snitching back in the day
because he only did five years and everybody did like a gajillion.
But, I mean, that's allegedly.
If you throw allegedly in there.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
I saw a Vlad TV interview from a couple of days.
I think it was J-Bo.
I think he was saying something like that.
Yeah.
I just saw that.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I just saw the headline.
I ain't see the video.
I just saw the headline that said that.
As long as you throw allegedly out there, you good.
Yeah, yeah, it's good.
You good.
As long as, yeah, even if he wasn't, I said allegedly, so nobody can say nothing to me.
But yeah, so he, yeah, because everybody got like a bunch of years or whatever.
But, so that's why they saying like, yo, we can't really take, can we take Da Vinci's word for everything that he's saying?
Because he was like, it was rumored that he was cooperating or whatever.
That's that, that's that.
We're going to move on though. All right. All right. jermaine dupree confirms versus battle let's go he said it's gonna
be like the super bowl we got the audio we got we got the audio let's let's head it's coming next
year oh no what's what's that look like you missed it shady he just broke news on i am athlete
yeah it's coming next year.
Give us more details.
What that look like, though? What that gonna look like, then?
I mean, it's gonna be, you know, it's gonna be like a Super Bowl.
It's gonna be at the stadium.
You know what I mean?
It's gonna be at Mercedes-Benz.
Oh, oh, hold, hold.
Hey, make sure I, can I get some pass, brother?
Hold for the fans.
Make sure your brother don't get any pass.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah. 2024, though? brother. Make sure your brother doesn't get too fast. You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
2024 though?
2024.
That's a long time.
I don't think they meant 2024.
Yeah, I don't know.
They might have recorded
that in December or
something.
I don't know.
I'm just, because it's
only February.
That might be like
something they recorded
in December.
But the podcast came
out last week though.
Yeah, I think they
might have just put it
out.
I mean, it's the
IM Athlete Podcast.
They put a lot of
stuff in the can.
Salute to my man Brandon Marshall. Either way, we know we're going to get one. Who it out i mean it's the im athlete podcast they put a lot of stuff in the can salute to my man uh well brandon marshall either way we know we're
gonna get one who y'all think is gonna be who y'all think could win because it depends man i
think that they should only do r&b and remixes i think that it's not even a battle with hip-hop
i think more than that but i think if they just do r&b and remixes it'll be just as entertaining
i think they should leave hip-hop off the table but like r&b and remixes, it'll be just as entertaining. I think they should leave hip-hop off the table and just keep it R&B and remixes.
But like Jermaine said before,
he said,
I'm going to be the underdog.
A lot of people don't even
know songs that I did.
Everybody know,
there's no song that Diddy,
that don't nobody know
that he didn't do.
See, it's going to be
performances too, right?
Performances?
It's got to be performances.
If he said it's going to be
like the Super Bowl,
it better be.
And the problem with Diddy is,
you know,
Diddy might not have
strong relationships
with a lot of his
past artists
like he and Mace
don't rock with each other
B.I.G.
passed away of course
so I don't know
if he can
like who did he get
Black Rob passed away
Craig Mack passed away
personally
I think Jermaine
is just playing with y'all
when he's calling himself
the underdog
he's feeding into
what people think about him
but the reality is
Jermaine Dupri
is not no damn underdog
in no way shape or form
Jermaine Dupri is a country with nuclear weapons too a lot of yo don't use the n-word bro
i'm just saying like you're saying i don't know why people be trying to play with jimmy dupree
like jimmy dupree ain't one of them jimmy dupree one of them he can clean up with bow wow just bow
wow no not just all right i was just trying to give him something. You're a comedian. All right. Not just Bow Wow.
He can play some Bow Wow.
He got Usher.
He got Mariah.
Come on, man.
He got Scape.
He got Jagged Edge.
The Brat.
Everybody.
The Brat, Chris Cross.
I know, I know.
Y'all thought Rihanna could perform pregnant.
Let the Brat come out there and Mercedes Benz.
Come on now.
Come on now.
Start a jacket open.
Come on now.
She better not come out there.
You already know what she's going to now. She better not come out there.
You already know what she's going to do.
That was Jess with the mess.
Now, Jess, let me just ask you one question before we get to these rumors.
Charlamagne.
What is in front of Jess right now?
Deodorant.
Why do you have deodorant? You have orange juice, water, coffee, and deodorant.
Why you got deodorant?
Because I came in.
You know how you all woke up late and I got in the shower and I forgot.
You know, I came in here and you know how you forget to put on deodorant.
And I ain't about to be around y'all two niggas musty.
I just can't.
I can't.
I can't do it.
I can't do it, man.
So my bad.
All right.
I thought you could.
Charlamagne, who you giving that donkey to, man?
For After the Hour, we need Jessalarius' cousin, Allen Lynch Jr., to come to the front of the congregation.
We'd like to have a word with him.
All right. We'll be from that era that like to record everything front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with him.
All right.
We'll be from that era that like to record everything.
Oh, boy. We're going to talk about it.
All right.
We'll get to that next.
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It's time for Donkey of the Day.
Donkeys of the Day at Charlemagne.
I'm a Democrat, so being Donkey of the Day is a little bit of a mixed up.
So like a donkey.
Keyhole.
Donkey of the Day.
The Breakfast Club, bitches.
Now, I've been called a lot in my 23 years, but Donkey of the Day is a new one.
Well, Donkey of the Day for Wednesday, February 22nd.
Today is Wednesday, February 22nd. I be getting the dates wrong.
It is. It goes to a young man named Allen Lynch Jr.
Now, he's 23 years old, and he's from Texas, and he's facing charges after recording himself fleeing from a state trooper.
Today's the 22nd, by the way.
You said 21st, right?
Mm-hmm.
No, I did not.
Oh, my bad.
I said 22nd, didn't I, Ray?
I know that.
Did he say 21st?
I said February 22nd.
He said 21st and 22nd.
No, I didn't.
Okay.
You the one high.
Anyway.
I'm smarter than all you know.
Alan Lynch Jr. is a 23-year-old from Texas
and he's facing charges
after recording himself
Fleeing from a state trooper during a traffic stop
Let me tell you about this generation
I don't even think, you know
It's a generational thing as far as age
Just this era that we live in
This world where people have a world
Within the world we live in
Did you understand what I just said?
We live in a world where people live in a world
Within the world we live in, okay?
There is Earth and what we do on it Then there's whatever planet you choose to live on via social
media some of y'all plan it is Instagram some is Facebook some is tic-tac some is YouTube yeah
there you go some of y'all plan it is Twitter okay yes people are living on the planet of the apps
and for some strange reason folks who live on these apps think that what they do on these apps
have no real world impact and we've been seeing this for years why folks haven't grasped that yes uh what you do
online will absolutely get you jammed up offline is beyond me and that's why we are here today to
speak on alan lynch jr see alan recorded himself being pulled over by a state trooper completely
understandable in this day and age okay because just like the new york lottery hey you never know
all right let me keep these cameras on in case this officer is having a bad day and age, okay? Because just like the New York lottery, hey, you never know.
All right, let me keep these cameras on in case this officer is having a bad day and things go left.
Well, they went left.
But not because of the state trooper.
They went left because Allen Lynch Jr. is a damn fool, okay?
See, the state trooper asked Allen for his license and told him to get out the car,
and then this happened.
Let's go to ABC 13 Houston for the report, please.
What could have been a routine traffic stop for Allen Lynch Jr. and maybe a ticket has now turned into a felony.
And he's pretty much laid out the evidence for law enforcement.
So, y'all, I got away. Round and applaud, round and applaud.
A five and a half minute video posted by Alan Lynch Jr. to YouTube bragging about getting away from a state trooper who pulled him over
earlier this month. That traffic stop on I-10 near Eldridge Parkway back on February 4th,
seen here in the video Lynch posted. Hello, Texas Highway Patrol. Reefless stop is your
expired TimTag. I just got this car today. Okay, do you have your driver's license on you? Yeah,
I do. All right, then go ahead and step out with me as well.
All right, then go ahead and step out with me as well.
The 23-year-old takes off, seen weaving through cars on the interstate in his Dodge Charger, and then you hear a crash.
Lynch documented himself, quote, ducking off, as he put it, hiding from law enforcement at an apartment complex that day for hours.
But he was identified, located, and arrested this week, charged with felony evading.
I don't even got to play a game, but guess what race it is.
He's saying ducking off and driving a Dodge Charger. You better stop playing with my cousin.
As many dumbass conversations as folks like to have about snitching,
who's a snitch, what's a snitch, all that foolishness,
we still have not had the conversation about people snitching on who's a snitch, what's a snitch, all that foolishness. We still have not had the conversation about
people snitching on themselves via social media.
Would you like to hear Allen Lynch Jr.
discuss his getaway in that Dodge Charger?
You want to hear him talking about docking off?
Absolutely. Let's listen. I do.
They're going to have to catch me first, man.
I ain't finished yet. You feel?
You think I'm going to make their job easy?
Their job is to catch us.
Our job is to run away.
I know I need to go ahead and like, comment, subscribe.
It's going up from here.
Yeah, I hope y'all like the video.
Everybody who's checking in, I'm good.
I'm straight.
That's why I'm making this video.
The next hour, though, I'm good.
I'm straight.
But don't try that at home, nobody try
none of that stuff that's Nazi
Guess what race he is
He is black
and he is black as
F for real
and I love it
I love it
I love it
First of all Alan, you did make the police job easier because you got on the FBI's internet and recorded yourself running away from law enforcement.
Damn it, man.
You know how sometimes police cut their body cameras off because they know they about to violate your ass?
Right.
They know they about to do something they don't got no business doing.
That's what Alan should have done.
Okay.
If you had plans to duck off from the police, simply turn your camera off.
You ain't got to go live.
Okay.
And I'm not encouraging anyone to run away from the police simply turn your camera off you ain't gotta go live okay yeah and i'm not encouraging anyone to run away from the police i'm just saying if he was trying not to get caught
common sense would say don't record yourself and put it online for the whole world to see i think
people forget it's the world wide web not just your world wide web okay and i really do hate
you like and subscribe ass negroes okay all right he did give? He did say at the end, he was very supportive.
He said, don't try this at home.
Please don't try this at home.
So don't do all that.
Because he's doing a good deed in the community.
I just don't understand why he had the nerve to say that them people got to catch you first.
Why they got to catch you when you done caught yourself?
Okay?
Police don't have to fish anymore.
Y'all jumping right into their boats.
That's exactly what this is.
Okay?
Allen is one of them social media silver cops. All right? Y'all jumping right into their boats. That's exactly what this is, okay? Alan is one of them
social media silver cops.
All right?
Y'all know what them cops are.
Them cops are them dangerous fish.
Some of them are dangerous
because them silver cops
can get real big,
like 40 pounds,
and they jump out the water
because they be scared
of the boats,
but sometimes they jump
right into the boat, all right?
I've seen videos
where those cops
jump out the water
and land right into the boat.
That's what y'all Negroes
are doing when y'all
get on social media
and record yourselves doing crimes, okay? you had the nerve to think you was being
slick and recording yourself getting away when the reality is all you was doing was giving
prosecutors exhibit a in the case against alan lynch jr please let remi ma give this young man
the biggest hee haw hee haw hee haw you stupid mother are you dumb now jess you tell me why you over there moaning
that turned you on for some reason you like relax you like a high speed getaway
drive faster yo it's going up like you said it's going up it's going up i hope y'all like the video
you know what i'm saying it is what it right. Well, thank you for that donkey today, sir.
Yes, indeed.
Now, shout out to Erykah Badu.
She stopped through yesterday.
We had a conversation.
Amazing conversation.
Now, the conversation was about her.
One part of the conversation was her not possibly being a great mate at the time.
Yes, because I was saying that, you know, I asked her.
She's one of the women who don't get labeled.
You know, she's got three baby fathers.
You know, nobody ever played with Erykah by due name in any way, shape or form.
You know, but then she went on to speak about how she may possibly not be the best mate.
All right.
I thought that was very honest.
Do we have a clip?
We're going to play the clip when we come back because we're over time.
What is the question?
800-585-1051.
Are you not a good mate?
Do you know that you're not a good mate?
Can you admit to that?
Yes.
That's a level of self-awareness. let's talk about it when we come back it's
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Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
We got our guest host, Jess Hilarious, joining us.
Yes, indeed.
And we're talking about not being a good mate.
Now, this conversation comes from Erykah Badu, who stopped through yesterday, and this is what she said.
I think God make us fall in love just long enough to get pregnant so that we could go ahead and procreate, keep the race going, and then that dies down and then everything else is on you.
In our culture, the next step is supposed to be marriage.
And it doesn't fit everybody.
That doesn't fit me.
And marriage is, in this country, a culture.
Because we're all individual beings everybody
does not have relationship skills everybody does not know how to be a mate we try but we don't even
know how to do it it's the most important thing you know what maybe we putting that on erica she
said everybody so she didn't just say her she yeah it's not like she said her everybody does
not have relationship skills.
And that is a fact.
Yeah.
Do you feel like you have relationship skills, Jess?
I'm still actually honestly trying to figure that out, to be honest with you.
My problem was, and I'm not going to say it still is a problem because I know it.
So I just, I'm trying to figure out how to move forward.
But I was, I had a list of demands for what I wanted
in a guy but didn't really know okay chill what I wanted you know what I'm saying I didn't know
I didn't know how I wanted to be assessed I just was going off of like what he need to have you
gotta have yourself together you know I'm saying like you sometimes you don't even really know
that you got mental issues or like you suffering from you holding
yourself back because of trauma until you get in a relationship and it's and it's activated
because you're bringing all that old baggage yeah so you and you a lot of people don't even know
that they got baggage until they try to be with somebody and try to love and realize like oh
damn it's like this because you you know you gotta make sure that you are ready and equipped with the
skills like you said before you get into a sure that you are ready and equipped with the skills, like you said, before you get into a relationship.
That's why so many of them don't work.
That's why none of mine have worked.
Dang.
So you got a bunch of dudes listening right now.
Like, I told her it was her fault.
I told her it was her.
No, no, no.
I told her it was her.
No, no, no.
You was her.
It was always her.
No, no.
Just that one part.
I still, I'm like, I'm going to tell him how to love me.
And I really don't even really know what it takes to love a person like me yet.
What was on that list of yours?
The list of demands?
Yeah.
Man, first of all, you got to believe in God for me.
Absolutely.
Like, you can't, no, you got to believe in something.
No, you have to believe in God for me.
I want a God to lead, yo.
I need somebody to lead.
I'm so dominant.
And so that's what men get messed up with me.
It's like,
and then I get it messed up with myself.
I always had to be the breadwinner
and always had to be, you know,
the dominant one, so.
You want to be soft sometimes.
Yeah, I want to be soft.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't always want to have to be hard up,
but man,
I can say bitches.
Yeah.
All right, niggas and bitches. Yeah all right bitches yeah yeah and then you got a lot
of women that think they men i mean that you know that think they you know so it goes both you know
men is like we switched somewhere now the women oh i don't need a man i don't need stop all that
i hate that narrative no everybody wants love everybody wants to be loved whether it's poly monogamous what all it don't matter i i really feel like everybody wants to be loved but
the the women the narrative of oh i don't need no man whatever i i can do it all for myself
we kind of we so caught up in what we can do for ourselves we never really give our companion or
the guy or whoever you're gonna be with a chance to show us that they can do it. We already
on, you know, hard up.
Like, oh no, if him do it, I'm going to do it myself.
I hate that. I'm not like that. I
want love. It's going to come, but I've got to get
myself together first.
Well, let's go to the phone lines.
Thank you.
Chelsea, good morning. Good morning.
Good morning. So you're not a good mate,
Chelsea? I don't think i am
why well only because like i noticed i pour a lot into a relationship and then i don't get
back what i'm giving you fall in love fast starving for it you fall in love fast it sounds
like it okay yeah i guess i kind of do you got kids but why is that her fault i do have two
you got two two different baby daddy okay how you know like dang i mean you said i don't know
you said you fall in love fast you pour too much into a person that's not necessarily a fault yeah
but they were like long-term relationships when they were born so yeah it wasn't like nothing
i agree with jess i don't think that's a fault of yours you know what i'm saying because you know just because you treat
somebody good and they choose to treat you bad in return i don't have nothing to do with you i'm
always show up and you know treat people the way i would like to be treated right even if it's not
reciprocated right don't change okay good so let me ask you a question when you give too much love
do they do they use that against you knowing that you love them too much knowing that you pour too much in they kind of take advantage of that situation yeah i've found that they do um so i put
up with more than i probably should but then i always try to feel like a good inner person but
like they always say when somebody show you who they are like believe them the first time
yeah okay i'm gonna be honest with you i'm not i'm not i can't wish you the best and you know
i'm not gonna tell you that you know love is out there for. Because I really don't know you based off this one phone call.
Yeah.
Because she might be a terrible person.
Yeah, she might be.
She sound like an N.
No, she don't.
She sound like a nice lady.
I ain't joking, y'all.
She sound like a nice lady.
No, yeah, she's a nice lady.
I love her.
I love her.
8-0-3-5-8-5-1-0-5-1.
Are you a good mate?
Are you not a good mate?
That's the question.
That's the question.
Are you not a good mate?
You can't find love?
What's the problem?
Let's talk about it. It's the question. Are you not a good mate? You can't find love? What's the problem? Let's talk about it at the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
I know it now. I like it.
I like it. I like it. I like it.
That kid don't even
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Call me.
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Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne
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We have Jess Hilarious here.
She's our co-host.
Now, we're asking, are you just not a good mate?
Now, this comes from Erykah Badu, a conversation we had with her yesterday.
Let's listen.
Really, I think God make us fall in love just long enough to get pregnant so that we could go ahead and procreate, keep the race going.
And then that dies down, and then everything else is on you.
In our culture, the next step is supposed to be marriage.
And it doesn't fit everybody.
That doesn't fit me.
And marriage is, in this country, a culture.
Because we're all individual beings, everybody does not have relationship skills.
Everybody does not know relationship skills everybody does
not know how to be a mate we try but we don't even know how to do it is the most
important thing. So we're asking 800-585-1051 are you not a good mate hello who's this?
Hi this is Trinity. Hey Trinity good morning talk to us this morning. Hello?
Hey talk to us can you hear us? Hello Trinity. to us. Can you hear us? Hello, Trinity.
Yes, I can hear you.
Are you not a good mate?
Why?
What's up?
Talk to us, mama.
I think I'm a good mate, but I think I'm a bit high maintenance.
What do you mean?
I'm on the autism spectrum.
So I have a lot of needs that my partner would have to be able to deal with.
For example, sometimes if I have really bad days,
I can go completely nonverbal.
And I know that's a lot to not have that kind of verbal communication with someone.
Not really.
I mean, I've been with my significant other for 25 years.
I can sit around and not talk,
and she can sit around and not talk,
and I don't think nothing's wrong.
Yeah.
That might be different for somebody that you meeting that's new right you
know should we not talk so she said never so yeah you never just sat in the
room with your wife and just did like in silence y'all just watch TV or sleep oh
yeah I think okay this is a little different when she said not speak she
seemed like she was pissed to F off you don't even talk to us she blamed us but
she said she on the spectrum so you on the. You don't talk because you on the spectrum.
That's like a result of you being on the spectrum.
What you mean on the spectrum?
Autism spectrum.
You ain't hear her?
She said she on the autism spectrum.
She said she on there.
I think you on there too, to be honest with you.
I'm real in low levels.
What part?
So that is a symptom of, oh, not a symptom.
I don't even know what that means, to be honest with you,
when you say you're on the autism spectrum.
What does that mean?
I don't know.
Because it seems like you just talked because you don't want to.
I have autism, and autism is a spectrum of different things.
Okay.
So, for example, you can be proficient in taking care of yourself,
but you can get overstimulated easily.
I got you.
Okay.
And you just get, like,
to the point where you just, like,
I can't talk because there's so much in your mind
that you want to say, you can't say it.
Right.
So you just be like, you shut down.
Yeah, I shut down.
Is your spouse autistic as well?
They have to understand.
No, I don't have a spouse.
I've tried dating.
Why?
But people have
complained about me being on the spectrum and things that i go through is a little bit too
much for them no i mean because you know it does take people time right because you know
people with autism have different ways of learning different ways of paying attention
so it would just take somebody some real understanding time and effort what has been
through it yeah absolutely yeah they just they just got to learn to be patient with you, babe,
because you can't help, but you can't change.
You know what I'm saying?
You can't change that.
Right.
But it's good that you know.
It's good that you know that I wouldn't even say that that's necessarily a
fault for you either.
Like you said, you're not a bad lover.
You're just on the spectrum.
And thank you, Trinity, for checking in with us.
That's just going to take a man with some patience. That's all it is, with us That's just gonna take A man with some patience
That's all it is Trinity
It's gonna take a man
With some patience
That's all
You know
Just what kind of advice is that
It's good that you know
It's good that you know
That you on there
But I
You know
I never heard nobody
Use that
She's so intelligent
That she ain't even
Gotta lead with that
But I never heard
Nobody use that
As a reason as to why
They don't have
A significant other
I'm on the spectrum
And I'm gonna go quiet Sometimes I'm going to go quiet sometimes.
Well, yeah.
You ain't even got to do that.
Well, she does say she has these dates, but it gets a problem because she comes home and has problems and she doesn't like to talk.
She's not, you know, it's, you understand.
And some of these niggas probably think that's an STD when she say, I got ASD.
Yeah, yeah.
I got autism spectrum disorder for real.
People stupid.
Hello, who's this?
Yo, this is Devon
Devon what's up
You not a good mate bro
Not at all
Why
Okay
I was married for 8 years
I was miserable the whole time
And once I split up
I see that I ain't got no
Responsibilities or obligations
To nobody
I don't gotta answer no questions
Like I'm good by myself.
Okay.
So did that make you a bad
person? Your marriage made you a bad person?
Because now I'll give you a hole? What you saying?
I'm not a hole.
I just, you know,
I don't like to answer questions. I'm an adult.
I'm grown.
Adults have to answer questions.
There's never a point in life where you stop answering questions.
Because you answering me right now.
Yeah, but in a marriage,
I don't have to answer you
and it won't be no repercussions.
In a marriage,
if you don't answer those questions,
then it causes friction.
Friction and problems.
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
Yeah, I got it.
Nah, yeah, you're not a good mate, bro.
That's all we got for him.
This ain't our young'un. We ain't fixing nobodyla we ain't fixing nobody like y'all tell us y'all ain't no good mate if you agree with you we can see exactly
where y'all coming from yeah yeah i don't like to answer no questions yeah you're right you're not
a good mate bro he wanted that's somebody who knows ex-wife listened to this show
hello who's this hi um i am my name is olivia and i want to just say i'm sorry i was listening
just and you just came in but i just want to say that um i'm married but i do agree with both
yes and badu and that's something that me and my husband are talking about in marriage counseling
um we've been married for almost 10 years and we've been met with these roadblocks not just
children and changing and things of that nature but it's who we are through our trauma and everything
and his therapist like asked him he was like was your wife ever these things from the beginning
and he was like no and he was like you said so why do you all of a sudden want these things to change?
And that's something that we had to face.
Like, was I ever good at X?
And so, like, I can get better at X.
But as far as doing X, like, marry the maid, maybe I'm not going to ever be strong in that skill.
But that's something I can work on and I think that you know like just saying
sometimes you don't know until you get in relationships and then you are met with these
things and maybe you don't do things like his mother his father right um aunt uncle you know
sometimes you do things like you sometimes I mean I stuff I don't do like my own mom and dad
because I'm just from a different generation.
My parents are boomers.
I'm a millennial.
So it's different things.
But you should do what makes your spouse happy, right?
And your spouse should be doing what makes you happy.
You know what I mean?
But that's what evolution.
Because when you start your dating history and when y'all start dating, you're not the
same who you are now.
You're 10 years different.
Like, I've been with my wife 28 years.
And if we were the same, it would be horrible.
Like, we evolve and things change and things need to change that's right and we got
a nose job i don't have a nose job daddy hairline i got a nose job he's not black i am black all
right all right olivia thank you so much i totally agree you should do what your spouse um wants you
to do in terms of to your greatest abilities i'm just put my thing out there
i'm not the best housekeeper is what i'm saying so like i'm strengthening that but um that's
something that his mom like cleans all day every day and that's that's cool but at one point i was
working a full-time job plus we have children so i get it you know that's just not yeah
that's one of the
typical ways too.
I would say that too.
Like when a mom cleans
and a dad comes home,
no,
y'all both work,
y'all both clean.
Me and my wife,
we both clean.
We both take care of the house.
We need to learn
that housekeeping
and cooking
are not limited
to gender roles.
Those are basic
life necessities.
We act like we ain't
never lived on our own.
You ain't never lived
in your own apartment
at least once.
You had to clean
the damn apartment
And sometimes you had to cook for yourself
Whether you're a man or a woman
I think the problem with a lot of these relationships
Is these social constructs
Like Jess said something earlier that's real
Like this idea of roles
You know what I'm saying
Because both men and women can lead
Both men and women can be soft
Like there is no either or
Because the reality is
If you're a good leader, you're a good leader
Saying you're a leader just because you're a man is ridiculous some of these dudes
can't lead you nowhere but right off a cliff boom okay so i think we got to get back to the idea of
partnerships yeah 50 50 joint ventures we both leaders and we will both be required to do
different things at different times i agree simple as that i agree that's how it should be
that's how i think it should be when we got rumors on the way That's what we talk about When we come back
Man Eminem opposes
Alright look so
I don't like the way it's wrote
So I'm just saying
Say it your way
Look
So it's this podcast
That these girls got out
And they using the word shady
And Eminem is trying to stop that
Because he got that trademark
Find out about it
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Reasonably shady. Last year, Robin and Gisele filed to trademark their podcast with, you know, with the intent of selling products.
Last week, Eminem filed an opposition against Real Housewives of Potomac.
Not the show, because for a minute I was like, damn, yo, this nigga trying to sue the show.
But it's just Giselle.
It's time, my bed, yo.
My bed, yo.
Yo, you looking over here, my bed.
You ready to dump it?
I dumped it.
Oh, you caught it?
I caught it.
All right, cool.
Did I catch it?
Thank you.
No more N-words.
No more N-words and no more S-words.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Okay, so, Reasonably Shady, which is a part of the black effect podcast
network which is also where carefully reckless left shout out to Charlamagne thank you so much
all right he's trying to stop that he's trying to stop that so apparently he has a trademark
slim shady and shady and um he he's trying to get this stopped right now. So he's suing Charlamagne and them?
He ain't suing nobody.
Yeah, he's suing Charlamagne.
He don't have to sue.
He just says he can't use it.
Oh, so they're going to stop using it?
I don't know.
But Robin and Gisele, yeah, these people, they technically under you.
Are they going to change it?
I think you can use it as the name of your podcast.
I don't think that they can trademark it for merch and stuff like that.
Because he already has it. I guess he has everything shady trademarked for merch and records and
everything else i don't i don't think i don't think you use shady for anything you can't use
it at all but i don't know why y'all asking me no these young people they work with them
reasonably shady is on the black effect i heart radio podcast network but that's what lawyers are
for okay i have no idea about any of this okay so I saw it in the news like y'all did.
All right, so now you know he's coming for you.
He's coming for you.
I just wanted to let you know that.
Make sure you listen to the Reasonably Shady podcast
on the Black Effect iHeartRadio podcast network
hosted by Giselle and Robin.
And make sure you listen to Carefully Reckless
hosted by Jess Hilarious
on the Black Effect iHeartRadio podcast network.
I don't think it's called Reasonably Shady anymore, though.
Those are two of our top podcasts right here.
Yes, yep.
Two of the top.
Two of the top, yeah.
And Eminem is my favorite rapper anyway. That's just fact all right that don't mean nothing he's still gonna come after carefully reckless because you know he's not he got that trademark
too no he don't he got a record that's why michael jackson bought his catalog
i don't know you're just going to come for me don't care. That was a little blow. I just thought I was going to. It better not come from me.
I got you.
All right, look.
Tiger rumored to be dating Avril Lavigne.
Now, this is very, very interesting because we saw pictures of them hugging in a parking lot as if they were saying goodbye to each other.
But they ended up getting into the same car.
It's Avril Lavigne's Tiger Sneaky Link.
The reason why I think so is because she got engaged last year on January 7th
to my son.
And they
actually, now my son,
he wasn't at the Noble Dinner where her
and Tiger was at. And they were there with
a few other people, but they got their little
thing going on. Now her fiance
was not there, but he did
attend the pre-Grammys party with Avril earlier
this month.
That's too much.
So, yeah.
Man, Avril, why you got to go and make things so complicated?
There's a lot going on.
Hey, y'all.
What?
So corny.
There's a lot going on.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So, Avril is tight as tight?
She white?
Yeah, but what does Avril Lavigne sing?
She is white.
What does she sing?
What do you mean she is white?
Does she sing?
Yes.
She sings. What does she sing? She was a sk she is white? Does she sing? Yes. She sings.
What did she sing?
She was a skater boy.
Why'd you have to go and make things so complicated?
Oh, that's hard, too.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's complicated.
Yeah.
Complicated was big.
Why'd you have to go and make things so complicated?
On a Monday, I'm waiting.
No, that's not it.
That's not it?
No.
I think that was...
Why you don't think that's Tiger Type, though?
Huh?
Why you don't think that's Tiger Type though huh why you don't think that's Tiger type
just cause we ain't
never see
just cause you know
Tiger got all types
of types
so you know
what I'm saying
Tiger be type
you know what I mean
alright
alright well
that was Jess
with the mess
when we come back
we got the people's
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morning everybody
it's DJ Envy Charlamagne Tha God we are the breakfast club we got the People's Choice mix. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God.
We are the Breakfast Club.
We got our co-host, Jess Hilarious here.
Yes, she is.
And it's Black History Month.
What we doing?
Listen, man.
Salute to my man, B-Dot.
You know, every day during Black History Month, we drop a podcast on the Black Effect Podcast
Network called I Didn't Know Maybe You Didn't Need a Host About My Guy, B-Dot.
And today, B-Dot is going to talk to you about Isaac Wood wooded a black veteran who was beaten by police officers while wearing his uniform teach
dot teach i didn't know i didn't know are you familiar with the name isaac woodard because i
wasn't by the time he was 26 he had been medically discharged from the army he had participated in
world war ii february 12 1946 he gets back to these United States of America.
By this time, he was a veteran that had been decorated for courage under fire
during his service in the Pacific.
On a Greyhound bus ride from Augusta, Georgia, back home to Winsboro, South Carolina,
he asked the driver, hey, at the next rest stop, can we stop so I can use the bathroom?
Bus driver says no.
They go back and forth in a verbal dispute.
At the next stop in Batesburg, South Carolina,
the bus driver tells Isaac Woodard to get off the bus.
This man is still in uniform.
Again, they go back and forth, and the Batesburg police were called.
Now, Isaac Woodard's account is, the police asked him,
were you discharged?
He replied yes, and that's when the officer hit him in the face with the billy club isaac wooder takes the billy club away from the police officer when another officer
approaches with his gun out says drop it or i'm gonna drop you isaac drops the billy club and
then they beat his eyes to blindness with their billy clubs they take him off to jail bloodied
and blinded and beat him some more this happened happened in February of 1946. By November of 1946,
in a trial over whether excessive or unnecessary force was used on Woodard, the Batesburg police
chief claimed that he only hit Woodard once and an all-white jury acquitted him and they only
deliberated for 30 minutes. Isaac Woodard died September 23, 1992 at the age of 73. As 47 years of living blind at the hands of the police in a country that you were defending,
even still in your uniform where you had just been decorated for your courage under fire.
And I didn't know.
Maybe you didn't either.
Are you familiar with the name Isaac Woodard? Because I wasn't know, I didn't know, I didn't know. Are you familiar with the name Isaac Woodard?
Because I wasn't.
By the time he was 26, he had been medically discharged from the Army.
He had participated in World War II.
February 12, 1946, he gets back to these United States of America.
By this time, he was a veteran that had been decorated for courage under fire
during his service in the Pacific.
On a Greyhound bus ride from Augusta, Georgia,
back home to Winsboro, South Carolina,
he asked the driver, hey, at the next rest stop,
can we stop so I can use the bathroom?
Bus driver says no.
They go back and forth in a verbal dispute.
At the next stop in Batesburg, South Carolina,
the bus driver tells Isaac Woodard to get off the bus.
This man is still in uniform.
Again, they go back and forth,
and the Batesburg
police were called now Isaac Woodard's account is the police asked him were you discharged he
replied yes and that's when the officer hit him in the face with the billy club Isaac Woodard
takes the billy club away from the police officer when another officer approaches with his gun out
says drop it or I'm gonna drop you Isaac drops the billy club and then they beat his eyes to blindness
with their billy clubs. They take him off to jail bloodied and blinded and beat him some more. This
happened in February of 1946. By November of 1946 in a trial over whether excessive or unnecessary
force was used on Woodard the Batesburg police chief claimed that he only hit Woodard once and
an all-white jury acquitted him.
And they only deliberated for 30 minutes.
Isaac Woodard died September 23, 1992 at the age of 73.
That's 47 years of living blind at the hands of the police in a country that you were defending,
even still in your uniform where you had just been decorated for your courage under fire.
And I didn't know.
Maybe you didn't either.
I bet you didn't know that.
Nope.
And of course, they were acquitted by a jury.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
All right.
Well, when we come back, we got the positive.
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Well, when we come back, positive notice at Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Good morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We got our co-host Jess with The Mess.
Jess O'Leary is here.
Yes.
I see a lot of people hitting us, Charlamagne.
About what?
Saying that Laverne Cox calling us girl.
That is not gender neutral.
Girl.
I call you girl all the time.
So when she said it,
it didn't throw me off at all.
I just thought she was recognizing your energy.
But if you would have said,
hey man,
that would have pissed her off.
That would have pissed her off.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's kind of like a little contradicting,
but she does everything out of love,
like she said.
We live in a world full of double standards.
Literally.
You know?
But what was her reasoning for that?
Because I did say something to her about that.
What did she say?
She said, girl, it's just like a...
Somebody saying dude.
Dude.
I get what you mean.
Or like yo, saying yo.
I don't know if that...
I don't think so.
But...
Yeah.
Hey.
Yeah.
Jess got a party this weekend, though.
I do.
Jess got a party this weekend.
I do.
Y'all coming? Sunday. Sunday. Day party. It's a, though. I do. Jess got a party this weekend. Y'all coming?
Sunday.
Sunday.
Day party.
It's a day party.
Three to eight.
What's good?
1425 Ellisona Street.
I seen the venue.
The venue look dope.
Oh, my God.
It's formerly known as the Old Pazos, and it's owned by some Greek people.
Yeah.
Everybody in Baltimore can't even get this.
Okay.
All right.
Period.
Oh, yeah.
This is where the white people be at.
Not that that really, really matters.
But Charlemagne got scared when I asked him to come.
He was like, yo, where it's going to be at?
It's not going to be in a project show.
It's going to be right.
I said, what time they start shooting?
What time they start shooting?
Yo, they don't shoot around that area.
And you said that's why you're doing a day party.
Yes, yes.
So you can be back up here in New York by the time they start shooting.
Now, the spot looks dope.
Tell them how they can get tickets.
They got hookah there.
They got alcohol
they got everything
I looked it up already
got two floors
look dope
oh you got me
I don't know about that
oh my god
anyway y'all can get the tickets
the link is in my bio
or you can hit
Dave Couser
he is tagged in the caption
on all the promotions
on my page
you can get tables from him
and the table
I was joking about $3,500 the tables are $1,000 oh word yeah so now you can come you from him. And the table, I was joking about $3,500.
The tables are $1,000.
Oh, word.
Yeah, so now you can come.
You get $1,000 that comes with alcohol?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
You get one bottle now.
You get one bottle.
Who can you get?
You get three girls.
Three girls?
Or three guys, whatever you want.
What?
Or three non-binary-ians.
I ain't trying to offend no fucking...
I mean, yo,
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man so I just
so I turned my whole show
into just fix my mess
so that's where I just
basically help people
people be sending me
in stories that they're
going through
in their marriages
in their single lives
with their family
with their you know
co-workers or whatever
and I just do my best
to help them
give them advice
I tell them to do stuff
that I would do
and do stuff
that I wouldn't
do but yeah so make sure you subscribe to the carefully reckless podcast on the black feck
iheart radio podcast network available everywhere you listen to podcasts man and jess will be back
tomorrow too that's right i will and i'll also be in raleigh north carolina this weekend if you
didn't get your tickets you need to get them right now jessal? Justelariusofficial.com at Good Nights Comedy Club. We got two shows every
night, Friday and Saturday. Boom.
Get your tickets. Alright.
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