The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Judge Tosses Drake’s Not Like Us Lawsuit, Ex-NBA Star Paul Pierce Arrested for DUI, WNBA Finals Game 1 Breaks Records + Allen Iverson Interview

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Allen Iverson opens up about being misunderstood, the challenges in his NBA career and relationships, and his reflections on not winning a championship ring. Dr. Jay Barne...tt and Dr. Joel Tudman also join the show to discuss men’s mental health, friendship, and finding purpose. Plus, we open the phone lines for listeners to give their own Donkey of the Day. Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years, until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls, came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network.
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Starting point is 00:01:26 You might know us as Hilda and Justin. from Ugly Betty. Welcome to our new podcast, Viva Betty. Yay. We're re-watching the series from start to finish and getting into all the fashions, the drama, and the behind-the-scenes moments that you've never heard before. But you were still bartending?
Starting point is 00:01:45 I didn't know that. The bar back is like, is that you? And it's a commercial for Betty. And I was like, I quit. I quit. Listen to Viva Betty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you. you get your podcast. Do you want to hear the secrets of psychopaths, murderers, sex offenders?
Starting point is 00:02:04 In this episode, I offer tips from them. I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist. This is a podcast where I cut through the noise with real talk. When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist, I was like snooze. We ended up talking for hours and I was like, this girl is my best friend. Let's talk about safety and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones. Listen to intentionally disturbing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Good morning, USA. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,
Starting point is 00:02:36 how do you, how you're doing. Peace to the planet is Friday! How y' y'all feel out there? I feel, happy to be here. Another day to serve our beautiful listeners. What is happening? How do you feel? How do you feel?
Starting point is 00:02:53 I feel good. Me and my husband went out, date night last night. And I had a blazer. Huh? Is this place called the local, and I had on a blazer. he's all right and I was sitting in the in a fashion seat and he was like you look so good like I just want he bit my shoulder bag you know how listen you know how good you got look for a nigga to bite the shoulder pad I was sure of all I think that he need to be careful
Starting point is 00:03:13 because he's Mexican people see you biting him biting somebody in this time you know you never know and people will pop out on him quick I'm just saying tell him be careful with that we was in the car nobody saw us I know y'all looked like two pretty studs last night you had on a blitz Chris Polly had his dred down his shoulders. Where did y'all go? Where did y'all? We went to local eatery. It's nice.
Starting point is 00:03:37 This is the spot. Nice upscale little spot in Jersey City. Okay. It's nice. It was really dope. We had nice drinks. We talked about business a lot. Like, it was nice.
Starting point is 00:03:46 It was a date. We talked about business, but it was still romantic. That's why you got the eye patches under your eye right now? No. That's not. No. I'm just tired. Yeah, because he probably wore you out last night.
Starting point is 00:03:56 That ain't what ever? What did you? me. Yo, anyway, how are you? I am great. It is Friday. Today is a great day. Tonight is going to be a great night because the WMBA finals are the night Game 4, Las Vegas Aces versus
Starting point is 00:04:11 the Phoenix Mercury, let's go Aces. But also today is a great day because it is World Mental Health Day. Okay? It is World Mental Health Day. I have my fifth annual Mental Wealth Expo tomorrow in Newark, New Jersey at the Joel and Diane Bloom Wellness and Event Center from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. It is a free event. And my guy who will
Starting point is 00:04:29 be there tomorrow is joining us this morning. His name is Dr. J. Barnett. Oh, I love him. He's the host of the Just Hill podcast on the Black Effect Podcast Network. But he's going to be joined by Dr. Joel Tudman. Okay, Joel Tudman, he used to be a pastor at the potter's house. He's a phenomenal, phenomenal brother, man. He's got a book coming out on November 4th.
Starting point is 00:04:48 So they will be here today to talk all things mental health because today is World Mental Health Day. And I love those brothers because they're not afraid to be vulnerable. And another man who is not afraid to be vulnerable. vulnerable who put out a book on Tuesday called Misunderstood. I read it last weekend. He is absolutely positively a cultural
Starting point is 00:05:07 icon. We don't use the word cultural icon loosely. We have little John up here earlier this week. He is a cultural icon. We have another cultural icon here this morning. He shifted culture. A man who taught so many people to not be afraid to be themselves.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Alan Huyveson will be joining us. AI, the answer. He had me wearing my hair like he did. I'm telling you, I was getting bitches in middle school and I wasn't gay in middle school yo That was after I don't know, that picture I saw There was signs
Starting point is 00:05:38 I was not gay, I was just a Tom girl That's what we used to call studs back in the day Back in the day That's exactly what we used to call studs Whatever y'all But yes, Alan Overson will be joining us today man So don't go anywhere All right, we got don't here today
Starting point is 00:05:54 We got the latest with Lauren We got all types of stuff man What we're starting to show with I need some energy. I need some energy this morning. They need to be lit. That's right. Why not?
Starting point is 00:06:03 Little John. Lit. Trick Daddy. Let's go. It's the Breakfast Club. It's the world's most dangerous morning. Show the Breakfast Club. Shalameen the God.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Jeff Hilarious. DJ Envy. Envy's off today. Absolutely. He's off today. Man, drop on the clues bond for Little John. I got, I'm really, really, really, really, really moving to want to go see Little John in Atlanta for 96-1, the jingle ball.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Really? You think you can handle that, being around the many people? I don't know yet. Okay. That's why I'm getting myself. You know how you are. Yeah. You know, but then it might be day up, and I'd be like, no.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Exactly. We ain't going. Mimi Brown. Good morning, Mimi. Good morning, Shaldemand. Good morning. Good morning, girl. Hold up.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Before you start, we got to get into some Monday night. No, what is it? Thursday night football. Do we have to? Yes, we do. NV. Giants won finally, yo. They, like, come on for real, 3417. They be the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I can give a damn. I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan. I know, but on the one day that he can bring and talk, and she's not here. I don't care about either one of these teams. They both NFC East rivals. Oh, my God. Well, congratulations for Envy. I'm going to hold it down for you, babe.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Congratulations to the New York Giants. What's up, Mimi? Good morning. All right. So we start this morning in Washington, where the government shutdown is now in its 10th day. Damn. And there's still, yep, 10th day,
Starting point is 00:07:17 and there's still no vote to reopen the government. The Senate left town late last night with no deal, guaranteeing that shutdown will stretch into next week. That also means military members are likely to miss their first paycheck as the standoff drags on. Now, earlier in the day, Senate Democrats, they blocked a Republican funding bill for the seventh time where both sides remain, they remain stale locked over health care subsidies and spending priorities. Now, Republicans, they want a short-term clean funding bill, while Democrats insist any deal must include
Starting point is 00:07:49 the extension of the Affordable Care Act credits that are set to expire at the end of the year. Now, as frustrations grow in Washington, it's hitting home for families across the country during a C-SPAN live call on Thursday, a Republican mother from Virginia, whose husband serves in the military, made an emotional plea directly to House Speaker Mike Johnson. She said if the shutdown continues that her husband, if he misses a paycheck next week, her two medically fragile children would lose access to the medication they need to survive. Let's listen to how this shutdown is affecting everyday real people. If we see a lapse in pay come the 15th, my children do not get to get the medication that's needed for them to live their life because we live paycheck to paycheck. I'm begging you to pass this legislation. My kids could die. We don't have the credit because of the medical bills that I have to pay regularly.
Starting point is 00:08:50 you could stop this and you could be the one that could say military is getting paid and the audacity of someone who makes six figures a year to do this to military families is insane she's absolutely right yeah like she's absolutely right the rent the mortgage the electric bills gas bills the the health care bills they don't care that the government is shut down they want their money yeah man they do because the bills don't stop well johnson told her he was angry about situations like hers. But again, he blamed Democrats for blocking that funding plan
Starting point is 00:09:24 in the Senate. So we'll continue to watch this. It will, of course, play into next week. It's not going to be the political win that either party thinks it is because people do not care about which party is responsible for what. They just want their goddamn money.
Starting point is 00:09:38 That's it. Exactly. And in other news, conservative political group, Turning Point USA says it is launching its own halftime show to compete with the NFL, setting up what could be one of the most politically charged Super Bowl Sundays yet. Now, the group founded by activist Charlie Kirk announced the All-American halftime show set to air during the Super Bowl on February 8th.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Now, a few details have been released, but a website for the event promises more information soon about who will perform and how fans can watch. A survey on the site, it's asking fans what kind of music they like, listing options like country, hip-hop, and rock, along with one choice that's labeled anything in English. The move... What these people are crazy. Petty is hell. Petty. Anything in English is hilarious. Y'all better not have no nachos at your Super Bowl party.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Crazy. Okay? No nachos at your goddamn Super Bowl party then. Okay? Absolutely. So the move appears to be in direct response, of course, to the backlash over the NFL's choice. We know the headliner is Bad Bunny. He's the Puerto Rican superstar known for his chart-topping hits and his outstanding or outspoken political views.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Now, some conservatives argue that Bad Bunny doesn't, quote, reflect American values. So this is what this is all about, the quote, unquote, American values. I would say that Bad Bunny represents the most American of values because that's what America is supposed to be about inclusivity. It's supposed to be about, you know, freedom, liberty, and justice for all people who come to America. to achieve things like bad bunny is achieved. Like, I would say that bad bunny is what you would call the American dream in a lot of ways. Wells can you come from, you know, by the way, Puerto Rico is America. What are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:11:29 Yeah, but not because they want to be. Exactly. And America is supposed to be the melting pot. I think that's what you were sage. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:39 So, all right. Well, coming up at seven, it's cuffing season. But this year, there's a new player in the mix. We'll tell you what it is and how it's changing the game. Damn, people still be out here looking to get cuffed? I guess so. Every time it get cold, duh. I guess I don't be thinking about it because I've been cuffed for so long.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Yeah, you'd be cuffed forever. Yeah, everybody trying to be comfortable around this time. You're not to hold all summer, but now you want to be cuffed over one person. Absolutely, that's how it goes. Blueprint ain't ever changed. Well, guess what? For you ladies in a small town, are you guys in a small town? Everybody know he slept with all summer, so why the hell would they settle down with your stupid ass when it get cold?
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Starting point is 00:12:43 Not just me I'm with the call Coach of Phyllis. Good morning. Get it off your chest. Who's this? Good morning, Bert. This is Uber Mike.
Starting point is 00:12:49 How y'all? Good. How are y'all, Mike? Pretty good. Hey, Solomon, I love you, but I got to give you don't get a day today. Okay. Talk to me.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Stop giving Hakeem Jeffrey's a hard time, man. I don't give him a hard time. Yes, you do. Why are you saying it? You never go hard at Trump like you do at him, man. You know what? Time on time. I hate when y'all say that.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Y'all do remember Trump called me a racist sleeves bag with low IQ earlier this year. He's all to hate. Like, I don't know why y'all say that, as if I don't, as if I don't give Trump don't donkey at a day all the time. I just gave him donkey today last week. Huh? You go soft on Trump, man. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Do you, Charlemagne? I don't, I don't, I really don't understand this logic. I think you just, I'm going to be out of here. Okay. One is, what they're doing is Trump has always been trying to get rid of that Ford of a Care Act. So he got, he's playing chess with the Democrats. He's playing chess. So now he's blaming it on them.
Starting point is 00:13:40 You know he's a master that creating a narrative by. I know that. So my thing is, if the premiums go up, it's going to triple for a lot of people. Then we can't afford to get to the doctor for check of the Q&MV. You know what I would have did if I was the Democrats? Even though I'm not a politician. I would have let the Republicans do that. Let the health care prices shoot up.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And then now you can point the finger directly at Republicans and say, look how Republicans raise your health care. But you know what's happening right now? Everybody's confused because federal workers aren't getting their paychecks. And so now they're pointing the fingers at each other. and everybody's blaming each other for people hurting right now in the moment.
Starting point is 00:14:18 But Trump is doing this, man, Charlemagne, he's doing this. I'm not saying he's not. I'm just simply saying it would have been easier to point the finger at Republicans and say, hey, there are the reason
Starting point is 00:14:29 that your health care prices are up as opposed to everybody pointing the finger at each other right now saying this is why the government is shut down. This is why y'all not getting paid is either Democrats
Starting point is 00:14:36 or as Republicans. It's just confusion right now. And guess what? Don't nobody can just want their money so they can pay their bills. I agree. I agree. I'm with all that.
Starting point is 00:14:43 agree, but Trump is the one doing it. They have the control, they have the power. I don't think I mean, you're right, but once again, I don't think it matters because people just want their paychecks. But if you didn't let the health care prices shoot, if you do let the health care prices shoot up, not saying that that would have been a good thing, if you're trying to get a political win, it's easier to point to finger at Republicans
Starting point is 00:15:00 and say they cause this. Right, I got you. Hey, but that's all I want. Stop giving them a hard time, shot. No, I will not. I won't. Have a good day. Peace. Get it off your chest. Who's this? This is Deanna from Somerville.
Starting point is 00:15:14 How are you? Good morning, Deanna. How are you? Good morning, everybody. I just wanted to call in and say how blessed I am. I had an interview yesterday. Where at? We're at.
Starting point is 00:15:24 You know, she's a dental assistant. Amazing, boo. Right. And people like, we do, like, agree for this job. They go to school for a long time for this job. And I put in my application and not except to say they call back to then. And I have the interview yesterday, y'all. and I'm driving down 26
Starting point is 00:15:44 and my brand new growth Let's go I'm 26 Oh, you're going to Mount Pleasant Oh, I love Mount Pleasant And I got a job Man, congratulations, man I'm so happy for you
Starting point is 00:15:54 You just want to say don't Shut up for you three and put it in Put it in That's right Absolutely girl God bless you Thank you for calling Sloot to everybody in Somerville man One time for the 843
Starting point is 00:16:05 I love stuff like that You see how happy this woman is to have a job I'm trying to tell you all Success is subjective Everybody think that they got to be some type of super duper millionaire to be successful. No, there's people out there living their dreams, you know, making $50,000 in a place like Somerville, South Carolina,
Starting point is 00:16:20 and she's happy. Yes, she is. That's what success is about being happy. Well, get it off your chest. Call us right now. 1-800-585-105-1. It's the world's most dangerous morning to show The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I'm telling. I'm telling. Hey, what you doing, man? I'm calling you. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed 800-585-105-1 We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club
Starting point is 00:16:46 Get it off your chest, who's this? What's up? This Leonard. This is not Leonard. This is Leonard? Lennard from where? Yeah. This ain't, this ain't awful Leonard.
Starting point is 00:16:57 This ain't, say, Charlotte, but this Leonard. Because I'm not a Leonard. I'm so glad my mom ain't put a-oh-in-law in my goddamn name. Oh, my dad's-Lennard. No, you're not. Your name is Leonard. My name is Leonard. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Okay. I won't get off my chest, man. My old week did 15 years, right? I'm trying to update it with the new technology. I'm inviting them to my gender reveal. I tell him we're going to use AI to do the gender reveal. He'd come there all happy, but then he'd get mad when he realized it's not the actual answer.
Starting point is 00:17:27 He thinks it's Alan Iverson doing the gender reveal. And I can understand why he filled that way. Exactly. Alan I'm going to be here this morning, by the way. Next hour, he's going to be here. Okay, I'm going to be tuned in there listening. Yeah, he'll be here next hour. in his new book Misunderstood.
Starting point is 00:17:42 It's his memoir, man. Go buy that for your uncle. The least you can do is go out to the bookstore today and buy your uncle Misunderstood by Alan Iverson. I can't do that. I'm going to order it online for it. Yep. What you having?
Starting point is 00:17:54 What y'all having? What was the reveal? A girl. Oh, man. Congratulations. Congratulations, girl, dad. I appreciate it. Thank y'all.
Starting point is 00:18:04 No problem. You met your first? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, congratulations. Congratulations. You're going to love it. Yeah, I am. I appreciate it, dog.
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Starting point is 00:19:31 to beat in Orlando. Is that what you listening now? Oh, she hung up? Absolutely. And Orlando is one of my favorite cities to go do comedy, and they love it. They love me there. Oh, I love Orlando.
Starting point is 00:19:39 My aunt lives in Orlando. mom's sister lives in Orlando. Every summer we would either be in New Jersey or Orlando. Orlando's lit. That's where I used to go. Yeah. Thank you. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:19:49 We do that every day, Monday through Friday at 6 a.m. Now it's time for the latest with Lauren. Good morning, Lauren Lerosa. Good morning, y'all. She said, good morning, Lauren Lerosa. Hey, just happy to be here. We got the latest coming up. We do, y'all.
Starting point is 00:20:02 We finally got an answer. And it's Drake defamation lawsuit. Oh, my God. We're going to get into it. Okay. That's it. That's all. All the time.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Done, done, done. I can't wait to discuss. I should have brought bottles for you today. Bottles for Charlemagne. I don't know. Whenever I talk about drugs, I feel like I need to do that. Man, don't we got a bottle. If we did.
Starting point is 00:20:21 First of all, don't use me as an excuse to drink, you a bunch of drunks. First of all, we haven't even been drinking. It's home coming a weekend. Yes, it is. College. That's right, Delaware State. Baltimore community. Baltimore pull up.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Perry, what's up? Morgan State and Capon State University. Don't believe me. It's the latest with Lauren. I'm back. It's the breakfast club. The Breakfast Club. Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show The Breakfast Club. Charlemagne the guy, just hilarious. DJ Envy is off today, but it is time
Starting point is 00:20:53 for the latest with Lauren Larosa. Lauren becoming a straight fit. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets to detail. I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on it. The latest with Lauren La Rosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have deep.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Sometimes you have a little bit every time. Well, it's the ladies. On the breakfast club. Talk to me. This is a very sad day for Drake because a judge has decided to dismiss the lawsuit, the defamation lawsuit against Universal Music Group that he has over Not Like Us. After all that? Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:32 So the docs say from the judge, because the court concludes that the alleged defraud that the alleged defamatory statements and not like us are non-actionable opinion. The motion to dismiss is granted. Because when Drake filed the lawsuit, Universal Music Group came back and said, Judge, this is a waste of time. This is just a song.
Starting point is 00:21:51 There's no proven fact here that we defamed anything. We want you to dismiss this. And the judge is saying yes. Now, yeah, so Drake's attorney has already given statements to some outlets. Didn't respond to me. But they said that they plan to appeal this and they look forward to taking this to appeals court. But Universal Music Group did send a statement to me
Starting point is 00:22:13 as soon as this lawsuit was filed and they say, a spokesperson from Universal Music Group says from the outset, this suit was an affront to all artists in their creative expression and never should have seen the light of day. We are pleased with the course dismissal and look forward to continue on our work successfully promoting Drake's music
Starting point is 00:22:31 and investing in his career. I felt like that was the biggest sit down over there in the corner and have a seat to drink. And listen, uphill, orange pill, chemical pill Kendrick Lamar and five alright this lawsuit wasn't filed for any other reason
Starting point is 00:22:46 other than Drake's feelings was hurt because Kendrick busted his ass in a rap battle it's really that simple and I'm shocked the lawsuit lasted a year and even got this far this man got his ass busted in a good old fashioned rap battle nothing more nothing less and we just have never seen how Drake reacts under real pressure
Starting point is 00:23:02 and you learn a lot more about people in defeat than you do in a win and we learn that Drake is a sore loser that's it no and then like with this further damage his ego I know it is it has to because it's gonna be crazy it's like a big ass slap in the face I mean to him yeah yeah but also too I read it's 38 pages the judge's response and I read you read all that because yeah thoroughly because I wanted to know defamation is a hard thing to make somebody say yes
Starting point is 00:23:30 you were defamed to so I wanted to know exactly what the judge thought about his claims because he said he had it up like and it's through art it's already hard enough when somebody defames you just talking yeah Then when you do it through art and you got all the free speech laws, like, come on, man. Well, so the judge said that you got to look at this a couple ways. First of all, you got to look at the forum, which is where the, like, whatever the defaming claims were made.
Starting point is 00:23:52 And the judge gave the example of, like, if you see something on, like, Twitter or in, like, an opinion column versus, like, a serious journalistic website, you look at it differently. So when we're looking at these claims made in a diss song, people are going to believe that it's just a fiery moment and that the stuff that's being said, may not be fact. The judge also
Starting point is 00:24:12 definitely listened to all the songs, pulled out parts from all the songs on both Drake's and Kendrick's side where they were both going back and forth at each other and made the point that even though Drake was saying that the court needed to look at not like us as an isolated event and this one claim and this one thing
Starting point is 00:24:28 happened and it's ruining my career and UMG is behind it. The judge is like, we can't do that. We've got to look at everything because we need to figure out where all this came from. And if we're looking at everything, it was basically you guys were both doing the same thing. Imagine the judge listening to all the record is like, no, he ate this.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Like, why do we act like, based off Drake's logic, he didn't defame Kendrick. This man said, Kendrick, beat his wife. This man said, one of Kendrick children was by his best friend. Like, why are they calling him short? Don't nobody ever think about the vertically challenged. I know, come on now, because y'all did you just did, you just levitated a little bit.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Because nobody ever think about that. Through all of the insults that was thrown, Don't nobody ever bring up just calling this man Show it over and over the impact it might have had on him But luckily our height don't fight That's why Kendrick busted Drake's ass He did, he did Damn, yo Drake
Starting point is 00:25:21 I'm so sorry, I know he'd be real mad And imagine how me, like the amount Of niggas laughing at him No, by the way, DJ muster post it on X yesterday laughing Laughing emojis And I'm only going to infer that those emojis Were laughing at this lawsuit We would have been stopped talking about this ass
Starting point is 00:25:39 kicking, Drake, you keep reminding us of this ass kicking. You keep reminding us that Kendrick busted your ass. How? He ain't even say nothing. By the lawsuit, I look at it in a couple of ways. I look at it in a couple of ways. All I know is what I've been told, and that's
Starting point is 00:25:57 a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved. Until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls, came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know.
Starting point is 00:26:18 A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I'm a I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her. Or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said it. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.
Starting point is 00:26:57 From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite-sized stories
Starting point is 00:27:44 of missing and murdered black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tamika Anderson. As she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact with several people,
Starting point is 00:28:06 talking on the phone as she made her way to what shows her way to what should have been a routine transaction. But Tamika never bought the car, and she never returned home that day. One podcast, one mission, save our girls. Join the searches we explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered black women and girls. Listen to hunting for answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Do you want to hear the secrets of serial killers, psychopaths, pedophiles, robbers? They are sitting there waiting for the vulnerable thing.
Starting point is 00:28:48 They're waiting for the unprotected. I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist. I advocate for safety and awareness of predators while wearing pink. When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist, I was like snooze. We ended up talking for hours and I was like, this girl is my best friend. This is a podcast where I cut through the noise with sarcastic. satire and hard truths. I'm not going to fake it and force it for me.
Starting point is 00:29:12 But would you force an orgasm? Because that's like a different layer. The car accident you didn't want to see but couldn't turn away from. In this episode, I discussed personal safety and self-defense, tools, instincts and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones in everyday life and high-risk situations. Listen to intentionally disturbing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you. you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents race to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.
Starting point is 00:29:52 We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. But what they find is not what they expected. Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect
Starting point is 00:30:23 and who they dare to betray. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand, and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. ways I'm talking about is the fact that Drake is biracial so I'm looking at it from a black and white perspective
Starting point is 00:30:44 okay his daddy side engaged in a rap battle his daddy said go out there and fight go out there and fight and then when Kendrick busted his ass his mama side said oh no Aubrey we're going to the police that's what happened that's perfect and like honestly
Starting point is 00:31:00 I feel like the judge's answer also made you remember I mean you we were there so we remember how big the song was when it first hit but this was like a re-reminder. I was reading it like if I was Drake, I hope he doesn't read this full 30-8 pages. What do you mean to re-remind us? It's just re-re-reiber. He just did not like us at the
Starting point is 00:31:16 Super Bowl in February. He just won a bunch of Grammys for not like us in February. This answer was Super Bowl 2.0. They pointed out already a reminder. You don't have to say re-reminder. It's just re-re reminder. Re-re reminder. This is one re-rererear. Re-re remand. I'm trying to tell y'all. I was reading this like I hope Drake has some people around him if they have to take a look
Starting point is 00:31:36 this. What you mean? People around him for what? The hug? Yes. Yo, he needs a lot of support. I was reading it, like, I'm not even going to hold you. I was reading this, like, the judge listened to all these songs, and she's a Kendrick fan now.
Starting point is 00:31:48 I bet. That's why I said, imagine the judge listening to her going back in full flight. Imagine her favorite song being Euphoria, like it's mine. She called one of Kendrick's songs, like, scathing. Like, and then he came back with the scathing and fiery. I'm like, oh, she felt that. Yeah. I think it was euphoria.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Lauren felt great. Lauren said Drake got emotional support, niggas. people got emotional support dog Is that what you think Chubbs and Bacca are? They need to be a bag. Those aren't grown, man. They need to be a big, man. Sometimes you just need support.
Starting point is 00:32:17 You lost a rap battle, man. Suck it up. Like, God damn, it's just a rap battle. This is the last thing I will say as we close. Drake's team also tried to make a point throughout this lawsuit that we were not smart enough to understand the full context of a rap battle. Like one song, then another song, then another song.
Starting point is 00:32:34 that not like us dropped and it made us forget everything and that's why it's so defamatory and UMG is the cause of it and the judge said you sound crazy and you shouldn't be using stuff from social media to prove evidence and it's not substantial. Oh, them guys really not like us because they don't understand how rap battles work
Starting point is 00:32:50 that's exactly how rap battles work. You go, I go, you go, I go and then eventually one of us going to go so hard that the whole crowd going to be like, oh! Like if you think about 8 mile, right? Yes. You don't remember nothing after that last one.
Starting point is 00:33:04 rap that Evan Dem did when you start talking about himself. Yep, and then start talking about the other nigga. That's what I'm saying. No, I don't. I don't remember. Yeah, well, he argued that not like us was so big that nothing else should matter and the judge said that doesn't make any sense. No, he's right. Not like us
Starting point is 00:33:20 was so big that nothing else mattered than that bad. But not to the point where we believe that Drake was a pedophile. No, nobody ever thought that's my whole game. That's what he's trying to say, though. I never thought Kendrick beat his wife or I never thought, you know, Kendrick was I don't even think Kendrick's short for What?
Starting point is 00:33:35 What? You are crazy. We saw him in a concert. His presence is too big. I don't even see a small, I don't even see a short man. We literally went to the concert in my life and yeah, he looked like a little aunt. No, he looked larger than life to me. Not sure.
Starting point is 00:33:49 He looked like a giant to Drake. I bet you drink go to sleep and Kendrick looked 10 feet tall. Yo, you are stupid. You know what I want to hear right now. What? You already know. What? You are standing for the short men.
Starting point is 00:34:00 We're sitting. We can't tell. When we come back, we got front page news plus Allen and I and will be joining us this hour. It's the world's most dangerous morning show the breakfast club. Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show the breakfast club.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Shalameenegu, J.NV. DJ Envy is off the day, but it's time for front page news with Mimi Brown. Hey, girl. Good morning, Mimi. Oh, let me say to the Las Vegas Aces are playing the Phoenix Mercury
Starting point is 00:34:20 tonight at 8 p.m. on ESPN. I love when games come on late on a Friday because I ain't, you know, I don't have to be up early tomorrow. And a giant swine. Congratulations, Big Giant. What about? Don't nobody care?
Starting point is 00:34:30 You know why don't nobody care? You know why don't nobody care? I like this. I love the city of Philly, by the way. Yeah, I know you do. But I also love New York, but I hate their teams. Okay, but they won. What the Cowboys are on?
Starting point is 00:34:40 Oh, okay. So congratulations. It don't matter. They won yesterday. And we beat the Giants this year. Big up, New York. What's up, Me, Me. Hey, Mimi.
Starting point is 00:34:48 What's up, Jess, and Charlemagne? Okay, so we start this hour in New York, where Attorney General Letitia James, the Democrat who took on Donald Trump's business empire, is now facing criminal charges of her own. A federal grand jury in Virginia indicted James on two felony counts, bank fraud and making false statements to a financial institution
Starting point is 00:35:08 tied to what prosecutors call a fraudulent mortgage scheme. Now, it makes her the second high-profile Trump critic to face criminal charges after former FBI director, James Comey's indictment. Now, according to the 10-page indictment filed Thursday in the Eastern District of Virginia, prosecutors alleged that James misrepresented the purpose of a home she purchased back in Norfolk in 2020. They say she applied for a second home mortgage, a type of loan that comes with lower rates, but then rented out the property to tenants violating the terms of the loan and pocketing roughly $19,000 in what they call improper gains. Now, federal prosecutors also accuse her of repeating those misrepresentations on insurance and tax documents. Lindsay Halligan, Trump's former personal attorney turned interim U.S. attorney for the district announced the charges yesterday, saying no one is above the law.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Now, James, she quickly fired back calling these allegations a desperate political attack from a president determined to punish his critics. Let's hear more of what she had to say. He's forcing federal law enforcement agencies to do his bidding, all because I did my job as the New York State Attorney General. These charges are baseless, and the president's own public statements make clear that his only goal is political retribution at any cost. She's absolutely right. And that's why we got to stop back and like Donald Trump doesn't have a hit list.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Like this is nothing but revenge. Like it's almost pointless to even read what Tis James is being charged with because it's some BS. Like Trump doesn't hide anything in regards to who he has a problem with. He told y'all he hates his opponents.
Starting point is 00:36:46 He tells you who he doesn't want on TV. He tells you, you know, what politicians he wants jailed. He wants people, he wants to do people exactly the way that he was done when they were coming after him. I don't even think he cared if these people get charged. I mean, get convicted and not.
Starting point is 00:36:59 I was just getting ready to say that. Analyst, a lot of people are saying It doesn't even matter if they get charged. It's just the fact that they have to go before judge. They have to take that perk walk. They have to do all of those things. So it's a win for him either way. Yeah, he cares to be charged.
Starting point is 00:37:12 You don't care if they get convicted. Exactly, exactly. You said they got to take a perk walk? I mean, that's basically what he's in it for. I just want to embarrass me. Girl, what you know about a perk walk? First of all, I can see them taking a perk. This is stressful.
Starting point is 00:37:26 All right? I wouldn't blame any of them if they took a perk. A perk walk is crazy. Okay. But she didn't say Perks did perp. Oh, Perp. Well, girl, I thought she was talking about Perkinson. You know when you used to shoplift Jess and you get arrested and they had to bring you in front of the judge.
Starting point is 00:37:39 You remember that? Yes. On the way out of the store girl, they used to come and grab me by my little elbow. Like, uh, don't turn around. Don't make a scene. Ooh. All right. Well, court documents show that U.S. District Judge Jamar Walker, which is a Biden appointee, will preside over the case.
Starting point is 00:37:55 She is set to make her first court appearance on October 24th in Norfolk. So we will continue to watch. what happens in that case. And while one New York official is fighting charges of her own, the city she represents is taking on a different kind of battle, Big Tech. So on World Mental Health Day, New York City is asking a judge to hold Facebook, TikTok, YouTube, and others accountable for what it calls a youth mental health crisis, claiming the apps are designed to keep kids hooked even at the expense of their well-being.
Starting point is 00:38:26 In a 327-page federal complaint, the city says platforms have become. a public nuisance, forcing schools and hospitals to shoulder mental health burdens that they did not choose. So according to the lawsuit, the companies allege that these social media companies built algorithms, notifications, and engagement loops that exploit psychological vulnerabilities and teenagers contributing to depression, anxiety, self-harm, and other serious outcomes. And New York says it is now being forced to pay the price, more counseling, more hospital visits, more strain on schools. And these types of lawsuits,
Starting point is 00:39:03 they are not just limited to New York. In fact, more than 30 states have already, they have pending or past actions against META alleging that Facebook and Instagram are harming mental health, youth mental health. Definitely. Well, we can also do our best as parents to keep our kids off those platforms.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Like, I don't allow my kids to use social media and they don't miss it because they never had it. Okay, now that damn YouTube and those tablets with Roblox, That's a different story. But you can't miss what you've never experienced. And so after all the talk about how social media is reshaping our mental health, now artificial intelligence is changing something else, how we connect. So we've all heard of cuffing season that time of year when the weather cools down
Starting point is 00:39:45 and people start looking to lock in a partner before winter. They are still really natural. Yep. It's been the same. Yep. It runs from October to February. But this year, the dating game is looking a little different thanks to AI. people are now turning to dating apps and plugins that use artificial intelligence to help them slide into someone's DMs.
Starting point is 00:40:07 So apps like Riz, GPT, your move, Cupid bot, among others, what they do is they analyze your profile and then help you craft everything from that perfect icebreaker to that clever one-liner. Developers say it's meant to take the pressure off of people who freeze up when trying to start a conversation. But critics say it takes the authenticity out of dating. So dating coaches, they're already seeing it play out in real time with some people admitting they're not sure if they're falling for a person or falling for an algorithm. But you see, it's like ups and downs with that, right? Because I like it because this gives the people who can't talk to women, you know, the socially awkward people that still want to date, it gives them a chance to be able to communicate with a woman. You know what I'm saying? You think so because to me it feels like a different form of catfishing
Starting point is 00:40:55 because am I talking to you or are you putting what I say in an app and then spitting it out what you're going to say back to me? That's very true. And shouldn't you have a limit on how many times you talk to a person through the computer? At some point, if there's some interest, y'all should meet up and look at each other's eyes and see what each other's smell like, right? Right. But you got to take the lessons though.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Like you can't just be on there just, oh, how do I say this to the girl? you have to be able to be trained by it. You know, you got to learn something from it. And then you can even be honest when we do meet up and see each other for the first time and I smell you and all that and you don't stink. You have to be honest to be like, look, I ain't even going to hold you.
Starting point is 00:41:33 I ain't really know how to spit the game to you. So I asked, you know, chat GPT, how to holler at you. You know, I'm going to get better with it. But at least I did my due diligence on trying. So I put the effort in to try to get to communicate with you to get to this point right here. Yeah, and I'm going to tell you something. For all the medium ugly guys like myself, the computer does you a disservice.
Starting point is 00:41:53 And I tell you why, I would have never overachieved in the woman's department the way I did in my life if it wasn't for face-to-face conversation. Because, you know, if I was just talking to a woman during the computer, they'd be like, oh, you know, blah, blah, blah, he's interesting, whatever. But then when they meet me, they're like, ugh. But when you present the medium ugly from the beginning, but then they be like, oh, he's funny. Oh, he might be smart. Oh, you're not like his conversation. Then it's different. That grows over time.
Starting point is 00:42:19 You start to look past the medium ugly. Yeah, but you're talking about being ugly. We're talking about communication. Like, we have to know how. That's what I mean. If it wasn't for communication, I would have never overachieved in the woman's department. But the communication being face-to-face eye to eye is what makes that happen. Thank you, Mimi.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Thank you. All right, y'all. Well, that's your front-page news. I'm Mimi-Brown. Follow me at Mimi-Brown TV. For more stories, follow Black Information Network and download the free I-HeartRadio app. Visit B-I-N-N-News.com. We appreciate you, Mimi.
Starting point is 00:42:48 And listen, today. And today is Friday, so you know we do the people's donkey on Friday. So if you want to call up and give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid, you can do that right now. 1-800-5-105-1. And when we come back, a cultural icon, a person who shifted culture in ways that, you know, we are still feeling today. Mr. Allen Iverson will be here to talk about his new book, Misunderstood.
Starting point is 00:43:11 It is a memoir. It's out right now. And he'll be joining us when we come back. It's the world most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody, it's D.J. NV. Jess Hilarious, Charlemagne, the God. We are the Breakfast Club. Longlerosis here as well.
Starting point is 00:43:27 We got a special guest in the building. Come on, man. Another cultural icon. We're having a weaker cultural icon, brus. A.I., Alan Iverson, whatever you want to call him. It's the 757. He's in the building. New book, Misunderstood, is out right now.
Starting point is 00:43:40 That's right. That's right. Alan Arvison, ladies and gentlemen. How you feeling, man? Good. Life, life, life, be life, insane fight. Different round. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Before we start, how much time we got? As much time did you mean, what you mean? Because I don't know where it's going to go. But look, man, friends. All right? So I know, you know, what type of, I mean, I'm just mean, Jess. But, you know, you know how you get to know somebody from afar and you can basically kind of tell what type of person they are.
Starting point is 00:44:07 You know what I mean? Obviously, I've known you since I was in high school. And big fan of you, bro. Friendships, man. It's hard. Because when you think about your friend, obviously, you know, you can't choose your family members. You know what I mean? You're born into that.
Starting point is 00:44:25 But your friends, you feel like y'all got so much in common with each other. And you have so much love for them because, you know, they're kind of like a, basically a flexion of you or you got the same type of things in common or whatever. And you just grow to love them like family. They become, you know, the guys become brothers and your home girls become your sisters. But it's rough, man, navigating through that. You know what I mean? I know how much I love my family. My friends, I got so much flak when I first got into the league.
Starting point is 00:44:56 You know what I mean? It was the entourage. Absolutely. Bringing home, boys, from where you're from. You trust them so much. You love them. You want them to go on the ride with you. You want them to take this journey, you know, through it.
Starting point is 00:45:08 It's new to me. I've been poor all my whole life and then snap of a finger. I'm rich and famous. and it's a lot, you know what I mean? So you want to have so many people around you that you love and you trust, you know what I mean? And the money, man, just, you know what I mean? And it's so different for me
Starting point is 00:45:31 and it's so hard for me because with my athletic ability that I was blessed with, I've been like this since I was eight years old. Like, I always felt that I was rich, but I was poor. I always been famous. You know what I mean? When I was eight years old, I go into barbershop and guys, 17, 18, 20, 25 years old,
Starting point is 00:45:52 guys like, oh, there you go. You know, that's the one right there. That's him. So it's always been that for me. I always had that attention. You know what I mean? I always been like that. You know, once I got some money, it was no different for me.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Obviously, I could do things with my family and my friends that I couldn't do before. You know, that goes what I was saying. man just the painful lessons of friends not being who you think they they are when you had to rule of all evil and the things something just recently happened definitely it happens all the time but I feel a pendulum swinging in another direction as far as how I feel about it like how it used to hurt me you know what I mean you you tell someone you want to find out if somebody your friend you tell them no one that's right that's right
Starting point is 00:46:43 And their reaction would say it all. You know what I mean? Chuck, hey, man, I got a business, you know, opportunity. I want to start this. I want to start that. Man, can he give me $100,000? And you don't even have to tell them no. You can say not right now, you know, later on.
Starting point is 00:47:02 But these are the same people. Pay their rent. Pay that over the years child support. You know, pay your mom rent, you know, this. Lawyer fees. Lawy fees. Because every time you go to a jewelry store, you're taking them. You know, because the most awkward feeling is, I don't want to be shining and looking good.
Starting point is 00:47:20 And my home boy is nice. So when I go see Mani, you know what I mean? They're going. You know what I mean? When I get cars, they get cars. You know what I mean? Like, and it's just like when you tell them no, the way they, you know, they act. You know, man, they're saying, hey, yo, man, what's up with your man?
Starting point is 00:47:38 They are. You know, what's up with you, man? Fuck that. Dang. You know what I mean? After reading your book, nobody should question your loyalty or ever say, I'm telling you what you see. I'm telling you what you see.
Starting point is 00:47:48 But do you regret that? I mean, I don't. Virginia, that's you everywhere you went. That's where I say, depending on me swinging, that's where I say or feel that my maturation is on a higher level now because back then when something traumatic would happen to me like that, and I see how they act for me telling them no. I feel myself not giving the damn anymore.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Like, you know what I mean? Even in the book, there's nobody that felt like that was around you that didn't help you in some way, shape, or form. So you was repaying them. Like, you talk about how when you was in jail, they was taking care of your mom, and they were the ones that would tell you, you know, you're not going to be hustling, you're going to be playing ball.
Starting point is 00:48:32 So it wasn't like you just had a bunch of leeches around. You was people that looked out for you, so you looked back out for them. You know what? If I look out for one of my homeboys, my home girls, I don't expect you to give it back. You know what I mean? I never asked for nothing back.
Starting point is 00:48:47 You know what I mean? I just feel like me being the head of the snake, the perfect example. It's like me being on our 2001 team and went to the finals. I'm the killer. Everybody know that. This is the guy going to put the ball in the basket.
Starting point is 00:49:01 This is what he do. Now, what we do is compliment him. We do everything else. All his deficiencies, the things that he can't do on the defensive end of the, you know, of the court, you know, he's lead to leading stills year after year. But you got to gamble. And when he gamble, the Kimbe is there to make sure I'm good.
Starting point is 00:49:21 The O is there, the block shots, make sure I'm good. They could do all of the things that I couldn't do. And that's what made Voltron. You know what I mean? You put all those things together. And it was me and a bunch of dogs. You know what I mean? And it's the same thing with my friendship.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Yeah, he's the guy. People look at him another way. So I have a role. I have to do this This is my part This is what I have to do Another thing too And maybe this could be part
Starting point is 00:49:45 Of what you're feeling right now It seemed like the whole team Had a dream It wasn't it wasn't you supposed To get on in basketball You were supposed to get on in basketball And everybody was supposed to make it in a rap So everybody was supposed to be doing their own thing
Starting point is 00:49:56 I didn't have the I didn't have the um LeBron James Mav Randy And Rich blueprint I didn't have that blueprint You know what I mean I'm like look we're gonna get in
Starting point is 00:50:05 What we fit in You know what I mean Like I even had one of my home boys tell me like I'm going to work every day working every day. I'm supposed to be a superstar by now. You know what I'm going to work? I'm like like I've had incidents like you know I'm getting ready to go on the road and it was a casino
Starting point is 00:50:21 I go to the bank I get 50,000 they got 30,000 in large and 20,000 in you know 20s and I'm getting on the plane my man come I give him the 20,000 he looked at it like it was something wrong with it because it was all 20s. You know what I mean? Like, yo, did this, you know, really just, did that really just happen?
Starting point is 00:50:45 You know what I mean? Like, and it's like you can, you're thinking you're doing what's right, but you only, you're not holding people accountable. Right. You've been in a crutch for them. It's like putting a band-aid on something. You know what I mean? You're not stitching it up. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:00 You're not stapling it up. You know what I mean? And they always feel like that, you know what I mean? But, like, the hurtful part is the response of actually. saying no. Aaron McKee told me, he said, Chuck, just, you know what I mean, when you, when you're cutting your grass,
Starting point is 00:51:17 you know what I mean, and you're getting them snakes out of there, let them ask you for something and tell them no. You know what I mean? And I think I'm doing a great job of cutting it, but you still got the little small, you know, the snakes might be gone, but some worms in there, some small. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:51:34 You know right now, it's Charles Barkley and a whole bunch of people saying, We was trying to tell him this 30 years. It's just like the basketball aspect of everything. I ain't never think that I would retire that early. You know what I mean? Man, I ain't never had no backup plan. Growing up, once my mom told me I could be anything I wanted to be,
Starting point is 00:51:54 I wanted to be NBA basketball player, and that was it. It was no B, C, D. It was just that, that one dream. You know, Coach Thompson used to always tell me you always listen to everybody else. You're always listening to somebody that's never been to, you know, from A to Z, telling you how to get there. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:15 And that's what I was. I had everybody that wasn't me and never had the experience telling me how to do it. I want to ask you about the title of the book, man. Do you think you were misunderstood? That's the title of the book. Or did people outside of your circle just not take the time to understand you? You're smart dude. Sometimes.
Starting point is 00:52:36 A lot. This is one of my friends. favorite shows, so I, you know, I see the good days and bad days. You been ducking. You been ducking this for a little time. Somebody see you black. I'm going, I'm going to come. I watch Dame come up here. It's for real.
Starting point is 00:52:50 It gets real. I think they can answer it better. My perspective is they were learning on the fly, too. It's like, you know, with my documentary that's coming out, it was like three hours long. I think
Starting point is 00:53:05 I cried like two and a half hours up. I had to keep walking out of the theater because you think you know when it comes to people that love you. You think you know how they feel about, you know, turbulent times. You know what I mean? And you think you know how your girl feel. You think you know how your mom feel, your uncles, your
Starting point is 00:53:21 aunts, your homeboys, your home girls. But then when they actually tell you from their point of view how they felt, you know, and how they looked at things and how I didn't see how I was fucking up, how they had to try to address me with certain things
Starting point is 00:53:37 Like, you know, you driving the car, we, we riding shotgun. And it's hard to tell somebody, you know, that's trying to live their life what they should do and what they shouldn't do. You know what I mean? Like, I'm 21 years old. You know what I mean? When I got into the league, at that age, like, you couldn't tell me nothing. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:00 Like, I'm here. You know what I mean? Like, the dress code, I'm like, I dress like the dudes, the drug dealers from me. neighborhood like you know I'm I'm dressing like this because you know this what I the old is from from my neighbor this how they dress you know what I mean I just couldn't afford it you know what I mean my corn rolls I got corn rolls because I was tired of barbers messing my hair I'm like damn if I just grow my hair you know I ain't got a deal with that you know tattoos just got addictive I got one I couldn't
Starting point is 00:54:30 afford him I would have been got a lot of my daddy was a hustler you know what I he was in the streets my mom in the streets like i didn't have no i didn't have no sit you down and give you structure yo this is how you wasn't no coach thompson then you know what i mean wasn't those people they weren't in my life yet so all of all of that was where he he was he was but it was it was he was there when i got to the nbae me and his phone calls you know you're all right we never talked about basketball you all right yeah i'm i i'm just checking on y y i swan her good how the kids you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:55:05 and that was it he was allowing me and thinking he was preparing me at Georgetown for what was the inevitable me going to the league but you can't prepare for that bro how was that pressure though
Starting point is 00:55:18 because the nicest player right but you change culture but when you change the culture the NBA pushed back against it but you never broke you never folded even though you they could have said they could have banned AI
Starting point is 00:55:30 and said now we don't want you in our league but you never folded you never back down and you kept it that way, which hurt you at times? Why was that? They profited off of it, too. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:39 I would be on, one of the things that hurt me is I was on a magazine. They wanted me on a magazine because of my talent and who I was, but they airbrushed my tattoos off. So you want me, but you, you know, you want some of me. I took the asswood before it, but the dress code thing, like, I actually was just, you know what I mean? I was 21. Where am I going after the game, going to the club?
Starting point is 00:56:03 you know what I mean like before that you did we used to dudes wearing soups and you know what I mean I was like man like I've never worn a soup growing up going to church or to a few more the only time I put on the suit in the courtroom in the courtroom I um
Starting point is 00:56:20 definitely in the courtroom so I never wore a soup to the gym to play to the to the park sweatsuit you know what I mean or whatever You know what I'm saying? So I didn't think nothing of it. David Stern and the rest of the NBA was like,
Starting point is 00:56:38 ah, because it was all right when I was doing it. But then everybody else said, okay, like, he can do that? We can do this? So then everybody. You know, you see Kobe coming in with the diamond chains on and the baggy clothes and, you know, everybody started doing it. Then the league was like, hold on, we got to do something about that. So it wasn't anything malicious.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Like, in that whole situation showed me a lot, It proved a lot to me at a young age about stereotyping people. Because, you know, when you seen John Gotti, John Gotti kept on a $2,000 suit. But what was he? That's right. He'd get busy. You know what I mean? So it ain't about, you know, what you got on the outside, is who you are.
Starting point is 00:57:17 And they said that bothered you the most when they labeled you a thug. Yeah. I'd be cool with a street dude. Cool with that. Because that's what I am. I mean, that's where I come from. That's all I've ever been around in my life. That's where I grew up.
Starting point is 00:57:31 around but a thug like no that's a that's a stretch i was wondering would you change things and the reason i asked that because even in the book you understood you had to wear a suit the court but you didn't want to do it for press conferences in the NBA i was bad advice like i was you know i was told to take a go to trial and go off whatever the judge say opposed to having a jury that was bad advice you know what i mean some of it but i was getting advice from people that never had been through it. You know what I mean? I was told that if I
Starting point is 00:58:06 wore a suit, then they'd be lenient. I was extremely wrong. So you wish you to just wore the... I might as well. I remember that same suit. I remember that same suit. I was in a cell
Starting point is 00:58:22 was 100 degrees with no fans in there. In a holding sale, I was in a four-man sale with 15 people. You know what I mean? And that suit, when they came and got me, I was in the corner with my boxes on, you know what I mean? Soaking wet and the suit was balled up in the corner when they came and got me out of there. I had on my box.
Starting point is 00:58:41 You know what I mean? So I don't know. Do you regret anything? No, because I wouldn't be who I am now. I wouldn't change anything, man, in my life. All of these experiences, even with the book, man. Just like, I love, like, my girl always talked to me about, why do you let, like, what I started talking about in the beginning. Why do you let that type of shit bother you?
Starting point is 00:59:02 And I'm like... Come with the practice, press conference. No, just with my friends. How people, you know what I mean? And it's like, why? And I don't know. You know what I mean? Like, I love the people that I love
Starting point is 00:59:14 and it hurt when they show you who they really are. Of course. Because I'm thinking you somebody else. You know what I mean? And she's like, you know, why do you stress out over stuff like that and what I'm, you're different.
Starting point is 00:59:25 You have a talent and you're blessed to be able to brush that stuff off. It's hard for me. Now, my talent obviously is, you know, legendary with who. But I think another blessing that I have is to be an open book. To be someone, I'm embarrassed about the practice rant. I'm embarrassed about not really embarrassed, but it wasn't smart for me to, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:51 because I remember, you know, people telling me, AI, you cannot take care of everybody. and I used to let it go on one ear and write out the other like yo you know what I mean I'm gonna be the exception to the rule I'm gonna take care of the people that I love like that's just me you know what I mean and um I think that's why I hurt you so bad because your heart is in it you love these people you know yeah yeah yeah you're Superman but you still have a heart you know what I mean and you like but but this is but this is my
Starting point is 01:00:20 gift like this is my gift to this book this this documentary my experiences the The turbulent, the ups and downs, like if one kid or one adult, whatever, read this book and they can take something from it. I have people come to me all the time and be like, yo, man, you inspired my life, man. I would have died if it was for you. I would have went to jail for the rest of my life. You know what I mean? Like, you changed my life and that motivate me.
Starting point is 01:00:46 You know what I mean? Like to give more, like to, even when you're embarrassed, you're uncomfortable. You know, talk about it. Somebody might not have to go through it. somebody might, you might save somebody in life. I agree. You know what I mean? Like, talk about it. Man, you was on top of the world. You had all the money. You know what I mean? All you had to do, it's easy for a, I'm going to tell Chuck what to do with his.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Easy for somebody to say what I would have did. Man, if I was him, I would have did. You ain't me, my, you know what I mean? You don't know. I'm sorry. You know what you? You're not me. You know what I make mistakes. I'm human just like you. I've seen an interview you gave up drinking six months ago. Yeah. What got you to that point where you said this is enough? It was, it was, I'll be lying if I would say it just, just stopped abruptly. You know what I mean? It was, it was situations, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:01:34 I, you know, where's my shit? You know what I mean? Like, I know I put it here. You know what I mean? It's the same thing. We're having certain guys around you. Everybody, when they're your people, your people know when you're drunk. You know, just chill.
Starting point is 01:01:50 All I know is what I've been told. And that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved. Until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:03:20 and to binge the entire season at free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday
Starting point is 01:03:39 as I share bite-sized stories of missing and murdered black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters
Starting point is 01:03:51 and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tamika Anderson. As she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact with several people, talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction. But Tamika never bought the car,
Starting point is 01:04:12 and she never returned home that day. One podcast, one mission, save our girls. Join the search as we explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered black women and girls. Listen to hunting for answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Do you want to hear the secrets of serial killers, psychopaths, pedophiles, robbers? They are sitting there waiting for the vulnerable thing. They're waiting for the unprotected. I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist.
Starting point is 01:04:48 I advocate for safety and awareness of predators while wearing pink. When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist, I was like snooze. We ended up talking for hours, and I was like, this girl is my best friend. This is a podcast where I cut through the noise with sarcasm, satire, and hard truths. I am not going to fake it and force it for me. But would you force an orgasm? Because that's like a different layer. The car accident you didn't want to see, but couldn't turn away from.
Starting point is 01:05:16 In this episode, I discussed personal safety. and self-defense, tools, instincts and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones in everyday life and high-risk situations. Listen to intentionally disturbing on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. But what they find is not what they expected.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing. to protect and who they dare to betray. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand, and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Yeah, man, just get him up two more glasses at dawn, man. Hey, yo, man, I'm f***ed up right now, man. God damn, I need you. You know what I'm saying? Man, my this going on, that going on. You know, man, I need you. You waited until I get this in because when I, and Emmy just talking about it,
Starting point is 01:06:56 when I'm getting nice, the man will give you the shirt on this bag. Yeah, man, man, man. Yo, I went to sleep last night and I had $25,000 on me. You know what I got $1,200? You're waiting to run through the look of stuff. You, man, man, man, what my sneakers are? Man, you gave such and such,
Starting point is 01:07:16 your uh your uh your uh your uh your uh your sister your uh your uh your uh your fur coat you you know what i mean like and i mean that's just that's just small shit compared to the the real you know what I mean not feeling well you know what I mean I did all this and I was having fun last night to wake up feeling like this you know what I mean then my responsibilities you you know what I mean you're missing flights and you know what I mean? I mean, it's a plethora of things, man. You just drinking, you know what I'm saying? Like, I started to evaluate and, like, what good does it do for me?
Starting point is 01:07:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You understand? Like, you, I mean, you can have fun with your own boys, your own girls. You know what I mean, without debt? And I talk to God about it. I asked them to help me be strong. I can go to no AA or nothing like that. Like, I was like, okay, I'm not doing it.
Starting point is 01:08:14 And that's what it was. And the crazy thing about it is I've been with her for 15, I remember, for 35 years. And since I was 15. And this crazy part about it is she said when I told her I was stopping, that after that she prayed on it. And she said that was the only time that she ever prayed on it. Like I said it plenty of times in the past. And she said that was the only time that she prayed on it.
Starting point is 01:08:40 And I was authentic with it. As a husband, what have you discovered? I'm a boyfriend. Y'all married from like, man. Y'all married from a like, I mean, we're married from like. You're married from like, I mean, we got divorced. You said you married divorced and y'all got right back together, like six months later or something you said?
Starting point is 01:08:56 I mean, I don't, I want to, I want this point to be made because you think I'm who I am and I was out of control. I was out of control and this threat was there for, years. For years and years and years and years and years and it's like the boy cried wolf. Like, whatever. I heard that before. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:09:21 And then, it was like she got to the point with like, yo, I got to show this... I got to do something to show him. I'm serious. And that's what happened. You're in that courtroom. You're looking over there and you see number one right there and you're looking down at that paper and them tears hitting that paper.
Starting point is 01:09:41 And they don't say, you know, I've been Georgetown versus Georgetown, and it's been a scrimmage or Sixers versus Sixers, and you're looking at the stat sheet, whatever. I'm looking at Iverson versus Iverson, you know what I mean? And, like, yo, it's real. You know what I mean? Like, did you wear a suit? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Oh, my God. And look, I really was defiant then. Okay. You know what I mean? Like, you got me in here, you know what I mean? Like, and I had a judge, a judge was vicious. Like, I couldn't be. nothing right even in that moment you were defiant and I guess upset even though you knew because
Starting point is 01:10:16 you said you knew you were out of control but so like in that moment where why are you defining upset if she's just doing what she thinks is going to help I guess to get you to a better spot for her I was selfishly thinking about my demise because I know in my heart and in my mind that I can't live without her you know what I'm saying like I know it I took I took I took her love for me for granted you know what i mean like as far as she loving me so much that i felt like you know that she would never she would never go nowhere like i've this all i've known this is the only love that i've ever known as far as like i've never loved someone like this in my life you know what i mean then a lot of times you know all women would say or even guys you know
Starting point is 01:11:06 anybody that's you know logical about anything how you love her so much and you do the things and I don't have an answer for you We never do though No As men we never do We don't know why we do
Starting point is 01:11:19 We do the dumb shit we do So how has not drinking And you know It seems like your You know your focus is different In this time of your life How has that made you guys Rediscover each other
Starting point is 01:11:28 In a relationship Oh yeah I'm Claire Huxable I'm in Cliff She's Claire I'm Cliff Huxstable now Like I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:11:36 I kind of get a feeling Like I'm the guy Like I always felt like You know, I was the guy she always wanted, you know what I mean, wanted to be, you know, wanted me to be. But I really feel like that guy now, like, I feel like it's not the Huxbulls around there, obviously. But, like, she loved, you know, this me, you know what I mean? Because you always getting this me. It's hard to take advantage of somebody that can see shit clear as hell.
Starting point is 01:12:06 You know what I mean? Opposed to being nonchalant about everything. You know what I mean? Like, it's a, you know, my home boy says it's a different chuck now. You know what I mean? I see. I see what's going on. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:12:19 All the stuff that I used to, you know, not pay attention to. I'm paying attention to it now. You know what I mean? And I just think, you know, by me making this decision is so much better for not just myself, everybody around me. I can help better. My advice is better. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:12:38 Like, I'm a better friend now. I'm a better family member. I, you know, this shit's clear. You know what I'm saying? Like, I promise you, I'm the smartest man in the world because I know I'm not. They're saying you got a rap, but I do got one last question, man. You changed the entire culture of basketball. But to me, you change black culture.
Starting point is 01:12:59 You also change hip-hop culture from your fashion to your attitude to just your authenticity. When you see how the NBA in the world embraces individuality now, Do you feel celebrated or do you still feel misunderstood? It's, um, I get the opportunity. Like, this is an opportunity for me. You know what I mean? Like, all of those years, you wanted to, you know, you wanted to say, nah, man, you got me wrong. Talk about it to your family and your friends, man, I'm misunderstood, man.
Starting point is 01:13:28 They don't, they ain't getting it. You know what I mean? It ain't like that. And then this platform and then all the other big platforms and, you know, just you guys give me an opportunity. to come up here and ask me that I want to answer that, that I want the world to know.
Starting point is 01:13:44 And this book took years. You know what I mean? The documentary took years to do. I'm just happy that I get an opportunity to tell my story, write my story, and help, and help somebody.
Starting point is 01:13:57 All I want is for people to get out of it, man, it's all right to be you. It's all right. That's right. You know what I mean? And it's things that's going to happen in your life and it's going to be tough
Starting point is 01:14:11 you know what I mean but that's when you're going to lean on number one you're going to lean on him you're going to lean on God they don't ask them any uh any uh you don't question them at all
Starting point is 01:14:23 you know what I mean whatever happened happened I ain't never my grandma told me when I went to jail that bowling alley thing I said nana why are they doing this to me if they know I didn't do what they said I did don't question God and I've never done it since then
Starting point is 01:14:36 you know what I mean whatever he do you know what I mean I'm cool with it you know what I mean he driving his car and I'm just sitting there ride shotgun wherever he take me that's where I'm going and I'm gonna live with the results so that's that's the only thing I want I this thing man live man laugh and love man we love you brother
Starting point is 01:14:55 we love you too yeah man it's Alan Iverson and misunderstood is out right now it's the breakfast club man I just walk out I got go is Alan Amison it's the breakfast club good morning the younger me is so pleased me too Alan Iverson and Little John in the same
Starting point is 01:15:14 week shaped my formative years do you know many memories I have I have attached to those individuals I know It's time for the latest with Lauren Lauren becoming a straight fat She gets them from somebody that knows somebody She gets to detail
Starting point is 01:15:26 I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything She'd be having the latest on this The latest with Lauren La Rosa Sometimes you have facts Sometimes you have details Sometimes you have a little bit everything. Well, it's the latest.
Starting point is 01:15:39 On the breakfast club. Talk to me. So Paul Pierce, Boston Celtics legend, was arrested Tuesday. The California Highway Patrol reported that authorities found him asleep while he was in the driver's seat of his range rover as it was in the middle of traffic on the 101 freeway in the San Fernando Valley. Cops state lanes had been closed on the highway while a crash investigation occurred. And Paul Pierce, who was sleeping, was discovered following their reopen.
Starting point is 01:16:06 at around 11.35 p.m. Officers noted that officers noted signs of alcohol impairment. When officers encountered Pierce, the police say they conducted a DUI investigation. Pierce was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol, a violation of California vehicle cold, and taken into a central Los Angeles area office. Now, how do you know he was drunk? Did they do a breathaly, did they smell liquor? Because I'm telling you something.
Starting point is 01:16:33 When you're 47, sometimes I'd just be driving mid-afternoon and I'd be tired. as hell. I ain't going to tell you no one. I'd be calling my wife like, I got to pull over or something. I'm sleeping. Well, they said they conducted a DUI investigation, but to your point, and you know, also your age, Paul Pierce says he posted a photo and the photo is literally him sitting in traffic on the highway, in the driver's seat, and he says, imagine being stuck in standstill traffic for 45 minutes and fall asleep. I took this picture that night because I've never been in standstill traffic for this long. I'm old, I'm tired, and I fell asleep.
Starting point is 01:17:07 I'm good, y'all. Thanks for the love. Man, drop on the clues, mom, and Paul Piss. Why do y'all just jump to the DUI? I need more proof that there was a DUI because I totally understand him. Right. When I overstand him at this age.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Yeah, I said to your point, to your age. I ain't talking to you. Okay, my daughter, a set of people. Yeah, okay. All right, cool. The police who act like they ain't old. Well, in other sports news, yeah, so the Aces Mercury WNBA Finals game
Starting point is 01:17:35 are putting up viewers' numbers that are breaking records. Okay. Yes. So they are putting up numbers that we have not seen in decades. So according to ESPN, the 2025 WNBA finals between the Las Vegas Aces and the Phoenix Mercury have produced the most viewed WMBA finals
Starting point is 01:17:50 through two games since 2000. Ooh, drop on the clues bonds for the Aces and Mercury. Yes. So according to ESPN, they're averaging 1.5 million viewers between games on ESPN and ABC. And that's the biggest number through two games since the Houston Commons and the New York Liberty
Starting point is 01:18:06 average 1.54 million viewers in 2000 with games on NBC and Lifetime. Thank you, Columbia, South Carolina. Thank you, Roscoe and Eva Wilson. Thank you, Heathwood Hall. Thank you, University of South Carolina. Thank you, Don Stanley, for producing and developing the face of the league.
Starting point is 01:18:21 A woman who, if she keeps going at this pace, will be the greatest woman basketball player of all time, Asia Wilson. Okay, that's why we're watching. Okay. Period. Okay. Okay, damn.
Starting point is 01:18:33 No, I like you overstating that point because people was trying to say some other things. I saw reports that that viewership was not the same because Caitlin Clark, Caitlin Clark wasn't playing. I don't know nothing about that. Yeah, so I actually love that you overstated that point. And when is their game this weekend?
Starting point is 01:18:50 Tonight. Tonight. Oh, tonight. In Phoenix, yes. Drop on the clues bombs for the Las Vegas Aces in Phoenix Mercury. Well, our last showdown of the hour, Little John and DJ Paul.
Starting point is 01:19:03 So Little John posted like a screen recording of like a FaceTime And he says or they say because both of them Collabbed on a Post on Instagram Tune in here tomorrow at 3 p.m. or today At 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time to settle this crunk conversation for good Cousins, Memphis and Atlanta representatives DJ Paul and little John talk it out Who Started Crunk? Hashtag Crunk hashtag who started crunk Oh wow
Starting point is 01:19:29 Who started crunk? Are they going to be playing music there? I don't know. Like the Memphis hits or the Memphis Crunk or whatever in the Atlanta Crunk. I feel like they should. We have some, we have some music that I... Little John was up here, right? Yeah, Little John was up here.
Starting point is 01:19:42 That's how this where the conversation started. Yes, 100%. And we got some of the hits, but, I mean, you said that you felt like Little John and Eastside boys. No, you said three six. No, you said three-sixth. No, little John said Master P. Oh, right. Yeah, Liljohn said Master P.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Little John is the face. And the Master P posted it. Shout out to Master P. Little John is the face of Crunk, but to me, it was 3-6 Mafia. Okay. I'm sorry. I do agree with John with what he said
Starting point is 01:20:06 when it came to getting Routy Routy, it was Master P. But Little John and the past of Troyes of the world they took crunk to a whole of the level.
Starting point is 01:20:16 They gave it a name to me and a brand. Well, we got some songs. You helped me with the three six songs and we grabbed our own little John songs and I will say. Why? Y'all wasn't even outside then.
Starting point is 01:20:25 No, I was outside, but it was a different type of outside. I realized that we didn't know it was crying. We just loved little John. I was outside. You did. I did tell you this song.
Starting point is 01:20:35 I thought you was just asking me. I didn't know you was asking me to play. Crazy. Duh. Because I felt like I wanted to get it right, but I don't know if we got it right on the little John son. You could have went a little harder on, John. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:45 You could have played throw them up. You could have played get crunk. You could have went a little harder. You know, you being like the real, like, deep cut south. That three six different. We was outside. Okay. See, my.
Starting point is 01:20:55 That was our era. That's when you had to know how to fight to be outside. Okay, because you just never knew. You had to know how to fight to be outside of my area, too. When Nuck of you fuck. When Nuck if you buck dropped in the party, you knew your people. If you ain't getting along, you know they was coming. Like, you had to know.
Starting point is 01:21:10 What? You ain't never heard. Listen, it's a Nuck if you buck is a Negro spiritual. Don't get it twisted. When a song plays that is literally challenging you, I bet you won't hit a mother, I bet you won't. And you've got drugs in you and alcohol and you just staring at somebody looking stupid. You don't even know them.
Starting point is 01:21:28 You just swing off on them because they dared you. challenged you. That's what I'm talking. That's what she's saying that we used to be the same way in Delaware. Yeah, but it's just like they would bump you in the club.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Speaking of Delaware, make sure y'all come out. We're not doing none of this though. Today, Delaware is a homecoming university alumni. First of all, this is entire studios, baby. This is a good little coin. Don't, okay? Because you're mad because I asked you
Starting point is 01:21:52 how you used to dress in Monk's Corner and I knew that the white T's you were four times in a row and they were dirty and dingy. And you'll dress like that now. Tear the club up. Take that t-shirt off. Oh my God. socks too small what the hell all right y'all
Starting point is 01:22:04 that hill part is in the middle of the foot I bet you won't hit a mother at all no we're not that that's what I told you when you went live with that scarf on who I told you I said you're doing all that wolfing online I said I bet you won't hit a mother who you want to her to hit right it's a stutter pot
Starting point is 01:22:18 I don't know I was talking yeah when we come up when we come back we got the people's donkey call up right now and tell us who you want to give the biggest he-heart to it's the breakfast club You're checking out the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:22:37 It's your time to nominate a donkey of your own. Remember not? That's how they choose. Call in now. 800-585-105-1. Yes, donkey today for Friday, October 10th. World Mental Health Day. It's the people's donkey.
Starting point is 01:22:52 This is where we allow you the opportunity to call in and give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid. So good morning. Who's this? Yo, what's going on? This is Dre from Queens. Dre, who you want to get the biggest he-haught? too, Dre? Mani. Man, I'm giving him dunk here today to my girlfriend, little brother Mani. Man, we do everything for his ass, man, take care of him, and we just have to ask to do some chores, clean the crib, and it's a problem. He's fighting, and he's talking back like a little
Starting point is 01:23:14 girl and everything, man, and I'm just tired of it. How old are you? How old are you? Me, I'm 23. How old is Mani? Mani is 18, and we tell him, we turn it into a man now, man, so you got to start taking all responsibility, and it's just choice. I'm crazy to be asking him to do. All right, man. Be careful with that little Y-N. Man, man. He come home with a goddamn, you know, a goddamn stick with a switch on it. You know what I mean? I don't know. I beat his ass quick. All right. Thank you for calling, my brother. Good morning. Who's this?
Starting point is 01:23:44 Good morning. It's time to. How are you all? Bless black and highly favorite. How are you? Who you want to get the biggest he haul to? Oh, so my daughter is dad. What's his name? His name is D. D. From where? Little Beach, South Carolina. Damn. What he did? Oh, little. Take care of your kid. Mom said has to call you and tell you to call your child and tell her hot.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Damn. You wake up every day, but the girlfriend's kids, no friends to him, love them, but take care of your kids. How are you taking care of somebody else's kids and getting to call yours? Oh, I agree with that wholeheartedly. I'm going to be honest with you. Those type of people really, really piss me off because, you know, it's one thing to just ignore kids all together, right? If you don't take care of your kids, you don't take care of your kids. But if you don't take care of your kids but you're taking care of somebody else's kids or somebody else's grandkids,
Starting point is 01:24:32 kids, I don't respect that at all. Not at all. Not at all. Well, I hope D. Here's this and, you know, he gets his mind right. Good morning. Who's K.P. From that, K.P., who you want to get the biggest he haul to? Man, I want to give it to Sequin Barclay. Because he messed up a few of my parlays last night. I just need a handful of a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:24:52 And about 60 yards, and he can't do that. And he lost to his former team. So, yeah, he got donkey out of day. Why y'all be acting like running backs have a long shelf life? And that's the crazy thing about being a running back. You might have a fantastic year like he had last year and then come back this year and not be hitting on nothing. I'm saying, but you can't just run.
Starting point is 01:25:10 You're a runner, but you can't run the ball in when you first and go. Listen, running backs have the shortest career of any NFL position. I'm just telling you. This man's donkey. He's giving the donkey out of the day to Sequin. And I don't even know why I'm sticking up for Seekoine. I hate the Giants and the Eagles. That, Jack Prescott, now he deserved a donkey too,
Starting point is 01:25:30 but that's another bag. I think that's taking us to the Super Bowl this year. And I think he's the MVP, but, you know, I'm a delusion of Cowboy fans that don't listen to me. Good morning. Who's this? Good morning. I'm on. This Casey? Yes, sir. Who you want to get the biggest he-haw to, Casey? Man, I just want to get a bigot to my boss, man.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Me and my coworker worked all day, every day hard. No, no, no, no. You got to say his name and you got to say where you work. Don't call it pit. Yo, he can't. You can't be anonymous, bro. I don't be anonymous with my don't. Come on now. Yeah, because you don't give him nobody.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Hey, look, I ain't going to get fired. I ain't just getting fire, man. I work in a beer factory. Okay, okay, okay. Well, say you was drunk. You ain't mean, and you hear me. Okay, so tell me what? No, me and my coworker, man, we work all day, every day.
Starting point is 01:26:13 And he just, he got a yes man to the white people, man. Does he pay you? No, no, no, no. That's what I'm saying. Does the company pay y'all? Yeah, the company pays. So what else he supposed to be other than a yes man? Like, what is he, this is his job?
Starting point is 01:26:26 Well, that's a yes man. If you were here to see it, then you would understand. I got to see it because I'm like, what did it say? Come to work, yes. No. Okay. We didn't work these hours, yes. All right?
Starting point is 01:26:39 I don't understand when y'all say he a yes man at a company. He working. Good morning. Who's this? This is Roxy, from Alabama to North Carolina. Hey, Roxy, how you doing, man? I'm going to be in Alabama soon, too. I'm going to tell you all next week I'm going to be at an Alabama.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Oh, yeah. We love you, Charlemagne. Good morning, Jay, good morning, Lauren. Good morning, baby. No, he's not here. Who you want to get the biggest he heart to? He got to come to work. I'm going to get a biggest he haul.
Starting point is 01:27:03 I'm giving names this morning, y'all. There you go. Out there in North Carolina, out here in North Carolina, I'm going to give a doctor today the area of the ****. That's my ex-boyfriend, baby, mama. And she then pressed some false charges on me, and I got a gatekeeper order where she can't press charges on me, so she didn't mess up her poor old probation situation.
Starting point is 01:27:23 Now, she's going to go to jail trying to put me in jail for no reason. What kind of fake charges you put on you? Salking charges, honey, and I ain't got time to stalking. because she had a whole crackhead, and I work, I got three kids, I'm in school, all type of stuff going on. I don't stalk this part of crackhead. Well, you know crack make you paranoid now, so she might have thought you were stalking her when you wasn't. No, I think she won me more than her baby, dad want me. That's what I think was going on.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Really? Talk about it. That's the real team. That's the realty behind a crack. So you might. Yes, ma'am, it is. So you might need to go sit on her face one time just for the coach. I don't want no crack head.
Starting point is 01:27:56 I don't want no crack head. I know that's right. I don't know about to want to sit on no crackhead face. I might catch something. Hey, don't judge people who slept with crackheads. Sometimes it's just a trash. I'm judging everybody who slipped with a crackhead. I know a lot of me who flit with crackheads.
Starting point is 01:28:11 And they look like crackheads now. That's not true because I did when I was young back in the date. What? You saw crack for a week, Charlemagne. That don't count. Hey, yo. I slept with a crackhead. I guess during that week.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Hey, yo, you're a clown, yo. Crazy. And we changed it like. Well, thank you for calling. Good morning. Who's this? Hey, good morning. This is Storm.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Peace, Storm. We're going to get the biggest he-haw to. I want to give the biggest he-haw to J.T. I feel like she's going on a Nicki Brent. She needs to take her loss and bow down. I mean, because every time I cut on the radio, I put Magnin on. Baby, just take that loss. Don't be another Drake.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Dang. That's right. Well, J.T. We ain't got to worry about J.T. Soon for losing a rap battle. That much we know. Well, thank you for calling. that's the people's donkey we do it every Friday you can call in and give somebody the biggest he-ha but today is world mental health day man i want y'all to know that and tomorrow is my fifth annual mental wealth expo at the joel and diane bloom wellness and event in newark new jersey from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. It's a free event we got some of the best mental health professionals in the country jason devi brown dr alfie briland noble uh people like angela rye will be there sharing her experiences dante wilder be there be there
Starting point is 01:29:27 sharing his experiences but my good brother Dr. J. Barnett will be there and he's going to be joining us next along with Dr. Joel Tudman because today is World Mental Health Day man and these are two brothers who are not afraid to be vulnerable and help you get mentally healthy so we're going
Starting point is 01:29:44 to talk to them brothers when we come back. It's the world's most dangerous morning show The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show the Breakfast Club Shalameenegraud, DJ Envi just hilarious envy's not here but Lauren LaRosa is and we got some special guests in the building, man. The good brother, Dr. Jay Barnett, along with Dr. Joel Tuttman.
Starting point is 01:30:03 How y'all brothers are doing, man? Man, we good, man. Feeling good, man. You know, you see Dr. Jay on the Just Hill podcast. Y'all go on the Just Hill tour together. Yeah, yeah, man. So it's been excited, man, the Just Hill podcast with Dr. Jay, man. We lunched back in April.
Starting point is 01:30:22 And just to see how it's grown, Shaw was on me for years. Like, bro, you got to do a podcast Like you got to be on the network And I wasn't If I could be honest I wasn't a podcaster Because I'm like, man, Jess This is a gift that y'all do
Starting point is 01:30:39 To get up and the talk and all of that I love to speak Because when I speak I have this structure That I follow and then I'm going These different places But podcast has really grown me To hear other people's stories
Starting point is 01:30:54 So it's like therapy in real time and from having my sister to Raji on, Kirk Franklin, Rico Love, and then I have some people who are just everyday people that are sharing their healing journeys and just sharing where they are. So it's been a fun journey, man. So now I can officially say Jess,
Starting point is 01:31:12 I'm a podcast. I know that's right. I love it. You guys have a really cool dynamic because you're a pastor, you do mental health and all these things, right? But y'all know in our community a lot of times when you're going through some people like, just pray about it. How do you all have conversations around that? It's more than prayer. I think prayer
Starting point is 01:31:30 is very essential, but it's the backbone. It's a substratum of everything. But there has to be practical application because you're human. So that is the spiritual component. But if you don't have friendship, you don't have people that can help walk you through the journey,
Starting point is 01:31:45 then you'll often become lost, and I like to say people become mystic. They just stay in this spookyville. And again, that's not to talk about the church background, because I have a strong church background. but having therapists, having people that can actually supply
Starting point is 01:32:02 sufficient support really can help change the dynamic of what you're going through. I think that's very important. And Dr. Joe, you used to be an associate pastor at the Potterhouse, right? Yes, sir. But then you left to go to Florida?
Starting point is 01:32:14 I didn't know that could happen. They made it sound like you was transferring schools or something. You were playing one place and you went to go to play. Which way you didn't know that could happen? I mean, just the way they, I guess the potterhouse so big, you know, the way they worded it. I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 01:32:30 No, no, I went there to learn from who I believe to be the greatest of all time. Absolutely. Bishop Jake's is the greatest of all times. And I went there to learn. And there was an opportunity that opened up in Florida. And so that's how I ended up there. I ended up there because he trained me, I was prepared, and we ended up in Florida. And God's been good to me since I've been there.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Yeah. How did that work, though? Like, what does the spirit tell you? Like, I want to be, I need you to go. lead this congregation now lead this flock now like what is that what hits you when i was in oklahoma originally and when i was there i knew that i wasn't going to be there forever and so the opportunity for change didn't start at the potter's house i was coaching at oklahoma state university and and pasturing at the same time and so the opportunity to shift
Starting point is 01:33:19 came at a good season church was doing fine the my work was doing great and um i went to preach for Bishop Jakes. So I had to sit back and realize, okay, the things that I want to see happen in the future, career-wise, and ministry-wise, came through an opportunity of another individual. There wasn't a voice from heaven that came down and said, move. It wasn't bad. It was a man of God looked at me and said, what's your future? What do you want to be? What do you see happening? Where you want to go? And when I told him that, then it unlocked something for me to start looking at. And when I start looking at it, I start saying, all the insufficiencies, all the places that needed work, all the places that needed a model or
Starting point is 01:34:00 mentor, and he filled that void. And then from there, it was a challenge. What do you want? And I had to answer that question. And that answer was, move. Wow. That's what y'all met, right? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:11 We met in Dallas. A friend of mine had sent me a video and was like, yo, I just found your spirit animal. I was like, all right. So I started watching his clips. He in the gym killing it. You know, he's a strengthened condition of cold. so we got the whole football background. I'm watching how he speak.
Starting point is 01:34:29 And I said, yo, I really rock with this dude. So I'm going to say, pause. I slid his DMs. But I hit him up and like, yo, brother, I love what you doing, man. And we had some exchange, but didn't know that we both moved to Dallas during the pandemic at the same time. And slowly, you know, started kind of engaging. But I'd engage him to come on my tour to just hear about. bro, I had four voices and I was like, you know, we need a five.
Starting point is 01:34:59 And I could reach out to him, I said, bro, I want you to go on tour. Now, here's the story about the development of our friendship. This brother was not having it, Jess. Okay. And the more I would text him is like, hey, man, you know, brother, you know, look forward to having you on tour. He would come on the tour. He would get on stage, do his thing, and would just sit in the back and wouldn't say anything. Right.
Starting point is 01:35:20 And I felt, you know, that he needed friendship, but I also felt compelled. Like, I just couldn't let it go. And I would text him and check in on him. Like, hey, man, I hope you all is well, brother, just checking in. All I know is what I've been told. And that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsubes. solved until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
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Starting point is 01:37:20 host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite-sized stories of missing and murdered black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tamika Anderson. As she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact with several people, talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction.
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Starting point is 01:38:27 They are sitting there waiting for the vulnerable thing. They're waiting for the unprotected. I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist. I advocate for safety and awareness of predators while wearing pink. When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist, I was like snooze. We ended up talking for hours, and I was like, this girl is my best friend. This is a podcast where I cut through the noise with sarcasm, satire, and hard truths. I'm not going to fake it and force it for me.
Starting point is 01:38:55 But would you force an orgasm? Because that's like a different layer. The car accident you didn't want to see but couldn't turn away from. In this episode, I discussed personal safety and self-defense tools, instincts and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones in everyday life and high-risk situations. Listen to Intentionally Disturbing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. But what they find is not what they expected.
Starting point is 01:39:43 Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand, and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. And he would just text back the arm emoji, the muscle you know.
Starting point is 01:40:27 I've been. Because he was not, and I understood as we begin, because it's difficult, Sharr. Men and study shows, men have a difficult time making friends after 35. And this is the real reason why a lot of men are suffering in silence and suffering in their mental help because of the lack of community and the lack of friendships. They're not like women. They don't engage. And most men don't build friendships beyond their workplace. And our friendship started from a challenge of who can lose the most weight and get down to the lowest body fat.
Starting point is 01:41:04 And that built the friendship that people see that we have today and the love that I have for the. brother and I saw it in him like I said bro you're one of the best to me and I think when you are building friendships you want to have friendships where somebody can see more in you than you see in yourself in that current space
Starting point is 01:41:25 why were you so guarded Dr. Tubman yeah please please tell the world how how he would leave me on red and it didn't bother me because and I want to add this when you have dealt with your rejection or abandonment issues
Starting point is 01:41:42 how a person responds doesn't trigger you because I didn't know what his experience was but I knew I wanted to keep showing up for him friendship is important to me. It's very essential and I'm too old to start over
Starting point is 01:41:57 in certain places. I have fresh wounds as it pertains to male to male friendships, brothers real strong relationships and I had just gotten to the point to where I was okay without the relationship. And so when this good brother reached out to me,
Starting point is 01:42:14 he was very persistent. I didn't understand him. I didn't understand his process, his makeup, he's a therapist. So his mental is really, really strong. Mind's strong, but it's more defensive versus just being vulnerable. So I had a difficult time
Starting point is 01:42:28 trying to be vulnerable. And so he kept pressing, it kept pressing, it kept pressing. I wasn't really interested in that. I was okay. I wasn't. I wasn't. I was okay with working.
Starting point is 01:42:40 Working out, as we continue to train, we started having therapeutic conversations about what's going on in your mind. Why are you having a hard time dealing with abandonment, rejection, what actually happened? And then, as far as my career speaking, he said, hey, man, I want you to come on a tour with me. I went on the tour, but I still wasn't going to get close to all the rest of the guys. I had broken through with him just a little bit. So we'd go on the tour, we'd do our thing, and I sit in the back. I'm not talking because I don't want to be involved emotionally. again that way. However,
Starting point is 01:43:13 we broke through. He's become my best friend over five years now. I have a much softer side. I was too hard. And I think God did an amazing thing by bringing them into my life. Recently, everything that happened with you in
Starting point is 01:43:28 Faith City. So you were there and then they sent out a letter that you would no longer be senior pastor. That was very public, especially because you know the church, they want to know what happened. No one knows why that happened. So two questions. I don't know if you can share what actually happened. And the second question, you spoke about it.
Starting point is 01:43:45 How was processing that publicly? What happened? We disagreed. We disagreed in mission. And the disagreement didn't allow us to go forward. So that relationship was severed. Processing it has been difficult because it's public and it hurt. I love those people.
Starting point is 01:44:06 I love him. Trying to move forward is something you have to do to live. I don't care what the career is and if you stay in a fracture you're going to break you're going to crumble so trying to move forward
Starting point is 01:44:21 with a cast when everyone is already determined, predetermined what you've done and have absolutely no idea and no information no information that's it's difficult so
Starting point is 01:44:33 trying to talk to your children pick your children up and move anywhere no matter what the career is to get them to trust you as a father hey I made a right decision to pick us up and move us across the world and then have to turn to figure out how we're going to make it
Starting point is 01:44:52 the pressure of this was what it was now I've got to figure out how to make it what it is it's difficult as a husband as a provider now do I trust in God 100% I trust in all the skills that God has given me and he's opened up
Starting point is 01:45:10 doors that are just unbelievable for me so processing it has been I'm not going to say difficult but it's been uneasy but through it all
Starting point is 01:45:23 I still thank God that's not a church answer that's my faith because I know all things work together for the good I wish you was here this weekend because you know
Starting point is 01:45:32 we got the mental health export this weekend got called and yeah my good sister Debbie Brown came up with this she wanted to do this panel called a reclaiming faith healing from religious trauma
Starting point is 01:45:42 and Pastor Carl Lynch and Dr. Teddy Reeves are on it and I think it was, was it LaCray that was up here talking about church, church? Yes. It was like, man, what do you do when your trauma comes from your sanctuary? When that hurt comes from
Starting point is 01:45:55 that place you go for salvation. Man, I think one of the things that my father's passed in 35 years walking alongside, you know, him. You know, when you look at church, it's a hospital. Yeah. And it's a hospital that has a lot of sick people who don't take their meds.
Starting point is 01:46:15 And when you have people who don't take their meds, you have people who don't understand how their behaviors, don't understand how their reaction impacts those that are in the hospital as well. So it's almost like you're in one room and you're trying to get some rest because the doctor said you need to rest and you have somebody down here that is having a breakdown because they just heard a diagnosis that they can't change. And I think the unfortunate thing that has happened is that a lot of churches have not thought about mental health in the faith conversation. And I say you can't talk faith, you can't talk God and omit mental health. When God made us, he made mind, body, and spirit. Mental health is your social, it's your emotional and physical makeup. It's how we do life. I call mental health life in motion.
Starting point is 01:47:08 there is nowhere around it and I think now you see in a turn some pastors are you know bringing in mental health professionals some pastors are bringing in clinicians and different things like that because what I saw growing up is what you speak about
Starting point is 01:47:24 I saw people that were embarrassed like I can see right now this young girl when we were growing up who got pregnant and they bring her before church and I'm like all right where's the guy so you brought the girl before church and that she's pregnant, but where's the guy, right?
Starting point is 01:47:40 It takes two to tango, right? So now you have this young girl who grows up with this level of shame and it's trauma because they brought her out before. And you have a lot of embarrassment. And so I feel that churches have focused on saving souls but not restoring minds. Wow. You have to restore a person's mind.
Starting point is 01:47:59 It's great that we're going to get their spirits save and you want people to, you know, go to heaven. But I think it's important that we begin helping people on how to, just come to the alt and throw their hands up and be, you know, delivered, but how to walk this thing out for their complete healing. Because it's one thing, especially like, let's just take somebody who's dealt with molestation, abandonment, rejection, and it's caused these unhealthy things. Yeah, I pray for you, lay hands on, you put oil on you, you greases it, like,
Starting point is 01:48:30 greased it like a piece of chicken. And, you know what I'm saying? So, but it's like now this person leave and there's no support. Yeah. And the reason church hurt hurt so bad because people have an expectation that I would be treated better in here than I am out there. Right. And it's just unfortunate, you know, that we, you know, have so many people, particularly in the black culture. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:54 And religious trauma is a real thing. It's called RTS, religious traumatic syndrome. It's a real diagnosis in the DSM. And most of us are challenged with it because we thought we would see God in the very people. who said come as you are. Yeah, yeah. Let's make sure that we're clear. The church is full of trauma.
Starting point is 01:49:17 It is not absent of trauma. The very church itself was founded on trauma, okay? Jesus being beaten, it's traumatic. Being betrayed prior to being beaten. It's traumatic. You die. The most horrible death, crown of thorns, nails in your hands. in your feet
Starting point is 01:49:39 pierced in the side bloody and naked it's trauma the whole thing is trauma the 12 or the 11 that take off running to go back to doing what they were doing
Starting point is 01:49:50 prior when they see that he's dead they're dealing with trauma they're like no I'm going back fishing forget this I can't do this Jesus comes back there's so much trauma with them they don't believe it even though Jesus told him
Starting point is 01:50:03 I'm coming back trauma change the brain see the trauma it's all trauma well Jesus comes back boom he restores Peter so there's there's the restoration that the church should have so he restores him hey feed me do you love me yeah feed my sheep you love me feed my sheep you love me feed my sheep boom he restores him he does his thing Jesus gets ready to leave he say look y'all go wait on the power wait on the power and then they come out so they get the power they start evangelizing the book of
Starting point is 01:50:31 acts they're doing a thing the church is built off of that so it's got an answer and it's got all these problems. So it's never going to be a place that you're going to go and it's absent of trauma. Yeah. Or it's absent of the things that you guys are talking about. I think the issue is trying to find the fine balance of this soul and spirit body balance when it comes to how we're giving that information. You got some churches that believe that Sunday morning is pure word driven. I'm going to teach you. I'm going to disciple you spiritually. Then you have some other churches that are a little bit more free and say,
Starting point is 01:51:10 hey, we're going to do mental health stuff and therapy and fitness training on Sunday. There are other people that don't like that. I didn't come to church for that. I came to church for Genesis. I ain't come to church for that. Okay? And then you have some churches that say, we're going to put together small groups where you can come get this mental health. Then you've got
Starting point is 01:51:28 other churches that say, look, we've hired 10 therapists that are here. I think we have to go back to what I said earlier, you got to own your thing. Something may have happened at the church, okay? There's no different than it happening right here in this company. But you still got to own your thing.
Starting point is 01:51:44 If this station a problem happens here, but you all still offer therapy, it's still up to me as an employee to go down to HR and say, listen, I need therapy. This is a powerful conversation to have on World Mental
Starting point is 01:51:59 Health Day, man. Yeah, man. And always, brother, I love you, man, to the moon and back, man. And always, man. We've been rocking for the past six or five years of what you've been doing that. You can see Dr. Jay, he'll be at the Mental Wealth Expo tomorrow
Starting point is 01:52:14 in Newark, New Jersey, at the Joel and Diane Bloom Wellness and the Vent Center. It's Dr. Jay Barnett. It's Dr. Joel Tubman. Thank you, brothers, man. Thank you, sir. It's the breakfast club. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:52:27 Yes, the world's most dangerous morning show The Breakfast Club. Shalameeneguad, Jess Alarious, DJ Envy. Envy is off today, but right now it's time for past the arcs. We're not. Go.
Starting point is 01:52:36 Go. Hey, Nail. Hey, Nail. Because that's my DJ. Okay. Okay, that's my DJ. Naila. Naila.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Yeah, DJ come spin. I come spin. Hey, Gail. How are y'all? Bless Black and Holly Favit. What you got for us this week, Nail? Okay. I really picked, like, five songs, but I'm just going to focus on three because
Starting point is 01:53:00 Brandon said that these were the great ones. Okay. Because y'all would be saying that I'd be picking. the wrong parts and stuff. So you like, I got an African pick the songs. Why you said it like that, African? There's no Vincent sounds. And also the segment is better with just three songs
Starting point is 01:53:13 so you can play more of them. Okay. Longer, longer parts of them. Well, I pick three. And the first one that I'm going to start with is this new Ruben Vincent and Ninth Wonder song called Drain Sidney. Let me show you.
Starting point is 01:53:25 All right. Okay, Brandon, I like this, I like that. Here's the thing I like about Ruben Benson. Number one, he's from the Carolinas. Yes. Number two, he's a young man who connected with an OG producer in Ninth Wonder. And I think when you have the aesthetic that
Starting point is 01:53:37 A Ruben Vincent has, you need a producer like a Ninth Wonder to bring the best out of him. So this project that he's solely produced by Ninth Wonder, right? Sully produced by Ninth. And it's crazy. Like, on this record is Rahim Devon and this artist named Sweeter, but they got Raphael Sadiq on the project.
Starting point is 01:53:53 Oh. Crazy Joe Scott, Flip. I'm missing mad names. What's the name of it? It's called Welcome Home. It's out today? It's out next Friday. And are you in the music video? I am in the music video girls sick man looking good Bobby yeah like that give it Sydney
Starting point is 01:54:08 thank you it's a play on brown sugar it's definitely a play on brown sugar yeah she looked good girl thank you I love them girls mad because them girls be liking Ruben
Starting point is 01:54:14 the guys was mad they love Nyla God's like Rubin too I was gonna say dang guys like Nylas I don't know what's going on but definitely check out
Starting point is 01:54:24 the music video it drops today I am in it and we recreated a few scenes from Brown Sugar Ruben got an old soul when you name Rubin
Starting point is 01:54:31 you ain't got no choice but to have an old soul that's like your name being Irvin. Well, Welcome Home drops October 24th, so make sure you guys be on the lookout for that. But I'm going to keep it into Carolinas. Tia Corinne, who also had a show last night in New York, just dropped her debut album. Pretty big deal.
Starting point is 01:54:47 So far, I'll first listen. I really like this record that she got on there with Flo Millie, and it's called Lotion. I like that. I love that. And I love a Fluomilly. I know that weren't her part, but I love Floomilly. Everything about Flea's, probably. I like the energy of it because it reminds me of the 80s.
Starting point is 01:55:02 80s all day. You know what I mean? Like, jam on it. Jam on it. But I want, I don't know. I just feel like the words could have been a little clearer, like maybe a different subject matter. Like if it's going to be called lotion,
Starting point is 01:55:11 that's a good message because y'all be ashy. You know what I'm saying? I knew this race today. But it's true, though. You do Shay butter babies. You missed that way? Definitely a Shade butter baby. All right.
Starting point is 01:55:20 Chat say you're 2 and O, Naila. We're on live. We live on Twitch. Okay, I love it. Follow us at Breakfast Club, B'am. They say you're 2 and 0. Okay, good. All right.
Starting point is 01:55:28 All right, this next one. Don't blow it too old lead. I won't. I won't. I won't. I won't. All right, this next one is from an artist named Nico Brim. He's from New York. Yeah, man, Nico just wrapped a new joint.
Starting point is 01:55:38 This is his second release of the year. It's called Phil Us. And he's also going to be on tour with J.I.D. on The God Does Like Ugly Tour, so you guys can definitely check him out. I love this. I like Nico Brim, though. I'll be tripping when people say that there's no lyruses nowadays. These little young dudes, he's spitting.
Starting point is 01:55:53 You just got to know who to listen to. In a way, it's more discovery, right? I don't know what you would call that, but it's like you're discovering these people. I just don't know where you're discovering them because, I mean, you know, we got all of the same outlets. I don't know if it's radio. I don't know if it's screaming. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:56:07 I don't know if it's social media. Where do you be finding these in-the-pocket artists? These spitters. I feel like the child don't help as much as they used to. But that's what Nile had tapped into. I think you're going to find what you're looking for. Yeah. So if you're looking for the lyrics that you'll find them because they're there.
Starting point is 01:56:20 Yeah. She's always putting me on. And honestly, I find them through features. Like, oh, okay. If I like Jid, then Jid does a record with Marco, then I hear Marco. he does a regular. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:30 Like, I end up finding them like that. You hear somebody, you go explore their music. Yeah. Like, photo shoots, like, through their aesthetic. So, like, somebody, like, Ling, you know the artist, Ling? I didn't know she was an artist. I was like the way she looked, and then I heard her music.
Starting point is 01:56:42 I know Ling, you put me on the Ling too? I think we played her up here. Yeah, Tia as well. I didn't know she was an artist. I was like, oh, she's a fire. Like, I like her as aesthetic. Link? Who's in?
Starting point is 01:56:50 I'll put you on her. You'll like her. I will encourage all you artists that can spit, though, to get with the OG producers. Get with the 9th one disc. Get with the habits if you can. Get with the static selectors. Get with people who got that sound
Starting point is 01:57:00 and can bring the best out of your lyricism. I would definitely like to say, watching 9th produce this project with Rubin definitely changed my perspective on music or just producing an album, period. Because I didn't really realize all that goes into it. It's not just the beat in the rap. Like you got to really tie it all the way in together.
Starting point is 01:57:18 Get with the Pete Rocks. Get with them guys that really know how to bring the best out of lyricism. And, you know, get with a nightless Simone because she's trying to be like them too. So you trust me in my vision I would appreciate that But if you guys like the songs Make sure you guys tune into the certified playlist
Starting point is 01:57:31 You can click the link in my bio At Nila Simone That's NY-L-A S-Y-M-O-N-E-E-E And also if you guys do like the Spitas Me, Ninth Wonder and Static Selecta and Rob Markman are actually having another rap night It's called The Eco Short for Ecosystem
Starting point is 01:57:45 Just bridging the gap between hip hop On November 4th at Static Spot Hidden Tiger on the east side So pull up on us Okay We got the people's choice mix up next And this is honestly why Naila needed to do the mix on Friday
Starting point is 01:57:58 Because Nia ain't even here You know what I'm saying? Shut up, he's in China, DJing over there Exactly, so he's not here So being that he's not here Nile should have could have been I definitely should be a mix today I like Nile's good
Starting point is 01:58:10 You know what I'm saying But Naila's already here giving us new music So then let Nala play Because then we could play the longer songs I have more songs I only can just do these things That he's hating down a black woman
Starting point is 01:58:22 Nala is my sister. You're not so hard for Nala. Don't do that. Don't even. Don't do that. Because one thing I am is Anila, Simone, standing, the people know. Okay, at this point,
Starting point is 01:58:31 I'd be her booking agent sometimes. If people call me for Nila, don't do that. Been that way. Your leather stink, it's the breakfast club. Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show the breakfast club. Shalameenegu was off the day,
Starting point is 01:58:42 but our day is almost over. Just where you at this weekend. No, telling where envy is. Don't be no hater. Envi is DJing in China for the NBA. I don't know if you want people to know that. He did. He do.
Starting point is 01:58:52 What the hell wouldn't want to know? Wouldn't want you to know you in China, DJing. I hope he don't play no crazy shit in the people over there. I don't be liking to tell nobody with nobody yet because I don't like nobody to know where I'm at when I'm out of town. So you know him in China to do nothing out? You never know. Well, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:59:07 You really don't want nobody know where you at. Like, you don't want nobody know nothing. No. What y'all need to know anything for? Because you know everybody else's business. Man, the less of the better. That's the white man's law. You all ain't learned nothing from the white man.
Starting point is 01:59:21 No, no. Shut up. Anyway, Syracuse, your girl, will be there tonight. I got two shows at the Funny Bone Comedy Club, and then we got two shows tomorrow in Albany, New York. So upstate, I will get there. I land in a few hours. And I need to know where I need to go to eat.
Starting point is 01:59:37 I know upstate New York, y'all ain't known for nothing to eat really, really good, but where can I go to eat? Let me know. He's just going to defecate on the whole time. You're about to say, wherever you go, please check your food because they're going to give you a little surprise. Y'all ain't known for no food, Syracuse.
Starting point is 01:59:53 No, I'm just saying, you know how, you know, in Philly they're known for the cheese sticks, and Baltimore we know for cramps. I never heard of anything that Syracuse is known for or whatever. But get your tickets if you haven't yet. Albany is sold out tomorrow. I'm sorry, still a few more tickets left for tonight. Justillarias official.com.
Starting point is 02:00:10 Can't wait to get there. And, Lauren, you got homecoming this weekend, right? Yes, we kicking off Delaware State University's alumni, alumni, homecoming weekend. today, Friday in Wilmington, Delaware at the Queen Theater. Tickets are still available at IFL Events.com.
Starting point is 02:00:24 I'm hosting the party. It's my party. We do it every year. A thousand of y'all are so more. Join us to have a good weekend. It's going to be late. It's our homecoming weekend. I'm excited.
Starting point is 02:00:34 That's right. Don't wear that stink leather you got on. Shut up. That leather you got on. I let you rock. You don't pull your feet out in here. Your hairline trying to grow back. It's fighting for his life.
Starting point is 02:00:43 That's why you got that got to do with that musty- leather you're wearing. Ain't nothing. That leather got caught in the rain. and now I've got a smell and you mad at us. I love making up these narratives that are not true.
Starting point is 02:00:53 I don't know. If you see Lauren with that leather on, make sure you salute it this weekend and be like, oh, they go Lauren with that stink-ass leather. Hey, y'all. I can't wait for her boyfriend to beat you out.
Starting point is 02:01:03 Yeah. Period. I don't know if I'm doing it. You too little. Exactly. Five, for a fight. Well, first of all, I want to thank Dr. J. Barnett
Starting point is 02:01:10 and Dr. Joel Tudman for pulling up. Dr. J. Barnett will be with me this weekend at the Mental Wealth Expo. Tomorrow is the Mental Wealth Expo at the Joel and Diane Bloom. Wellness and Event Center in Newark, New Jersey. It's from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. It is a completely free event.
Starting point is 02:01:26 You can come out there and hear more conversations like we had on the radio this morning with Dr. Jay and Dr. Joel. Debbie Brown will be there. Dr. Alfie Brelan Noble will be there. Jason Wilson will be there. Deontay Wilde will be there. A whole host of people, man. Dr. Rita Walker.
Starting point is 02:01:40 So pull up and we'll see you tomorrow from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. And also make sure you subscribe to Dr. J. Barnett's podcast, the Just Hill podcast on the Black Effect I Heart Radio podcast network. And also go check out Dr. J. Barnett on the Mental Wealth episode of Kirk Franklin's digital series, Den of Kings, airing now on Kirk Franklin's YouTube channel, okay? And we got to thank the good brother Alan Iverson. Period.
Starting point is 02:02:04 For pulling up this morning. I said earlier this week that there was two interviews that we did this week that I thought, to me, in my personal opinion, were top 10 all-time breakfast club interviews. My personal favorites. One was Little John, and today with Alan Averson. man so go check that out online online it's like an hour and some change yeah very great conversation yeah very great conversation so real moments like wow this is good john this is really
Starting point is 02:02:28 a i know that's right ain't still look good i was like oh my god age aware oh a i yes yeah yeah yeah yeah so go pick up allan's new book misunderstood a memoir is out right now and uh today is world mental health day so the positive note is simply this remember mental health is not a destination but a process Okay, it's about how you drive, not where you're going. Have a great day. I know that's right. Breakfast club, bitches. You don't finish or y'all done?
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