The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Laila Ali Talks Potential Fight with Claressa Shields, Gucci Mane Opens Up About Mental Health + Josh Shapiro & Ty Dolla $ign Interview

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Governor Josh Shapiro joins us to talk about public service, pushing back on lobbyists, and his relationship with Vice President Kamala Harris. Ty Dolla $ign also stops by... to discuss his new album TYCOON, signing Leon Thomas, fatherhood, working with Kanye, and launching EZMNY Records. Plus, Danny Garcia opens up about his final boxing match, career highlights, growing up in Philly, and the Crawford vs. Canelo fight. And on today’s People’s Donkey, a caller gives Laila Ali Donkey of the Day after her response to a potential boxing match with Claressa Shields. Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:44 Good morning, USA! Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, just should be here in the planet. Hey! Good morning how y'all feel out there. I feel blessed black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning. Yes. You said, Jessica will be here in a second.
Starting point is 00:03:07 No, she's going to be Zoom. Oh, she'll be Zoom. Yeah, yeah. She'll be able to show. She's going to be able to show. What's happening, man? Happy Friday. What's up, man?
Starting point is 00:03:15 How you feel? I feel good. I was watching the NYC Mero debate last night. I was watching that. Also trying to read at the same time. Gucci Man's book, bro. Yeah. The Diary of a Recovering Madman.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Man. man man man man I got so many questions so many stories it is but I mean I just like the fact that he's being so open about his mental health issues and you know his drug addiction you know because uh and one thing I get from reading Gucci's book there's a lot of artists going through exactly what he went through absolutely and we've watched a lot of it but we just don't see the behind the scenes of it all and we don't know if they were out there getting the help and trying to do the work on himself like Gucci was yeah there's a lot of your favorite artists that are going multi-psychosis and manic episodes and probably battling drug use and probably been
Starting point is 00:04:00 diagnosed with things because Gucci's been diagnosed with bipolar and schizophrenia but you know we don't know we just sit back and watch all the headlines and even though we know something wrong everybody just thinks everything is cool yeah copacetic and I think we get to a point where a lot of times a lot of artists use these drugs as a coping method and we need to make sure that does that happen let me ask you a question yes ma'am yes man this guy's crazy you know with all the stress and things that you ever did you never use drug as a way to cope on things or anything like that?
Starting point is 00:04:29 No, not prescription drugs. I've done plant-based medicines before, though. Yeah. I mean, I do therapy and meditation and grounding and breathing exercises. No, but before you got to that, right? Because you got to that recently, you know, because a lot of people use drugs to cope.
Starting point is 00:04:42 You know what, I'm lying. Maybe I was. I mean, all those, when we was outside and all that heavy alcohol use and everything else, maybe I probably was. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I mean, I didn't look at it like that back then, but yeah, I'm sure I was doing that as a way to escape.
Starting point is 00:04:54 But we used to being hit drunk, bro. I thank God all the time. We used to be in here high as hell. What are you talking about? I'm just asking. I just, I thank God all the time. I'm like, damn, we used to. We used to be out all night and come in here and do radio.
Starting point is 00:05:06 And I don't even know how we did it. You know what I did it. You know what I did. You know, it's recorded. Jesus Christ. All right. Let's continue on, man.
Starting point is 00:05:14 All right. But now, I just say it's AI. That was not me. That was AI. You see all the AI videos I was posting. AI. I'll be fighting sharks, guerrillas, all types of things. That was AI.
Starting point is 00:05:23 You right. What's that new thing? they got sorrow. Sorro? SOR. SOR? Yeah, that's exactly what that was. Wasn't me. All right. Well, let's get the show crack. We got a pack show for you this morning. We do. Governor Josh Shapiro will be joining us. Governor of Pennsylvania. Yes, he will be here. He's been there before you. A couple times, yeah, that's right. I like Governor Josh Shapiro. Yeah, we'll be kicking him with him. Also, uh, also from Philly, Danny Garcia. He has a boxing match this Saturday, so we're going to be kicking him with Danny Garcia.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Not just any boxing match. He said his last boxing match ever. He said he's retiring after this. So he says, do y'all believe him, Philly? I don't know. No, I don't believe him. But we'll talk to Danny Garcia and R&B singer Ty Dalai Sine. He has a new album, Tycoon out now. We're going to kick it with Tydollison. Yeah, I think Tycoon came out today. Came out today?
Starting point is 00:06:04 Yeah, okay. All right, so we'll kick it with them. Like I said, Pac Show this morning. So let's get the show cracking. We got front page news, a lot to discuss. Mimi Brown's up next. That's right, so don't move. It's the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess Salariah, Shulamaine Nagai. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. All right. Now, if you follow Major League,
Starting point is 00:06:24 baseball. The Blue Jays beat the Mariners 8-2. The series is tied to 2, and the Dodgers beat the Brewers 3-1. Now tonight, the Blue Jays played the Barroners in game 5 at 6 p.m. I also tonight the Brewers take on the Dodgers at 838. What's up, Mimi?
Starting point is 00:06:41 Good morning, NB, Jess. How are y'all doing? Good morning. Good morning. All right, well, we start this morning with John Bolton, President Trump's former national security advisor now facing federal charges. A grand jury in Maryland has indicted Bolton on 18 counts, eight for sharing national defense information, and 10
Starting point is 00:07:00 for keeping it at home. Now, prosecutors say he passed along more than a thousand pages of sensitive materials to his wife and daughter who didn't have clearance to see it. Now, a news report, news of the indictment broke reporters pressed President Trump for a reaction, asking if he was aware of the charges against his former advisor. Let's listen to what he had to say. Mr. President, John was just indicted by a grand jury in Maryland. Do you have a reaction to I didn't know that. You tell me for the first time, but I think he's, you know, a bad person. I think he's a bad guy, yeah, he's a bad guy. It's too bad, but it's the way it goes. That's the way it goes, right? That's the way it goes. Will I what?
Starting point is 00:07:40 Have you reviewed the case against him? No, I haven't. I haven't. But I just think he's a bad person. What does he mean? He doesn't know that. He's the reason Bolton got indicted. He's the one who called for it, okay? Bolton wouldn't be getting indicted if Trump didn't tell him to do it. Well, you know, yes, you're right. So Bolton, he is expected to turn himself in today at the federal courthouse in Greenbelt, Maryland. His case has been assigned to a judge who was appointed by President Obama. Investigators say Bolton also kept a printed diary of pages at home
Starting point is 00:08:12 and used his personal email to send classified details, something the FBI calls a clear violation of federal law. Now, Bolton, of course, is saying this is political. In a statement, he said that he is the latest target in what he calls Trump's effort to punish his critics. He also pointed out that his book in 2020, the room where it happened, was reviewed and cleared by officials years ago and that no charges were filed up until now. Now, if convicted, Bolton could face up to 10 years in prison for each count. He is now the third Trump critic indicted in recent weeks following former FBI director James Comey and New York. Attorney General, Letitia James. Man, Trump needs to write a book on how to make people bend to his will. Okay, you can't tell me it's just because he's president, because plenty of people have been president, but I've never seen them wield power like him.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Folks just do whatever he tells them to do. There are no checks and balances, none. They're scared, though. Of what, though? That's my point. Of what? Getting locked up, like, like, these other three people getting charged? I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime. And then even the free speech, like you're getting people, shows that canceled and taking off,
Starting point is 00:09:18 works and stuff. I mean, people definitely scared. Well, Jimmy, Jimmy Kimmel, that kind of backfired on on Trump. But I'm just saying, I've never seen anybody been to the will of a president the way that these folks do. It's unbelievable. Yeah, definitely a lot of that going on. And now we are
Starting point is 00:09:34 in day 17 of a government shutdown and there is still no deal in sight. And the Senate they tried for the 10th time yesterday to pass a funding bill, but it failed again before lawmakers left out of town for the weekend. That means the shutdown will roll. into next week. Now, Republicans, they are shifting their strategy. GLP leaders are now considering
Starting point is 00:09:54 a plan to pay federal workers who've missed checks since the shutdown began, something they refused to do unless Democrats agree to reopen the government. The bill is sponsored by Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, but it needs 60 votes to advance. They're also looking at another bill from Alaska Senator Dan Sullivan that would guarantee pay for military members. But Democrats say they won't back any standalone bills unless there's funding. for health care, housing, and other programs that Americans depend on. And now, as I mentioned, the shutdown is in its 17th day. It is now tied for the third longest shutdown in U.S. history.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And as the standoff drags on, pressure is shifting from Capitol Hill to the kitchen table. I mean, most federal workers, they're still furloughed or working without pay. Military families, they got paid this time around, but their next payday on October 31st, that is still uncertain. And meanwhile, the Department of Agriculture, they are worn. morning that snap benefits, food stamps could run out by November if this drags on affecting more than 42 a million Americans that depend on those benefits for groceries. That's when things are going to get real when that's snapping that week run out.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And just let the record show the first longest government shutdown was also Donald Trump's first term. It was 35 days back in 2018. That's right. Absolutely. All right, y'all. So coming up at 7, how much are you willing to pay for comfort when airline is putting passengers to the test? We'll tell you, what's changing? and why it could really catch on. Spirit about to make y'all sleep on the flow. And just the back. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-58-105-1. Get it off your chest. It's the breakfast club. The Breakfast Club. Wake up.
Starting point is 00:11:42 This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you are mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Oh, my God, DJ Envy! What's up? Who's this? Oh, Lord, good morning.
Starting point is 00:11:57 This is Janice out of Syracuse, New York. What's up, Janice? What's going on? Hey, Syracuse. Good morning, Sam, man. Good morning, Jess. Good morning, Lauren. How y'all doing?
Starting point is 00:12:06 Good morning. Bless Black and highly favored. How you feel? Absolutely. Great. So listen, real quick. I just wanted to give a shout out to my daughter and my niece is Carolina team out of Syracuse,
Starting point is 00:12:16 New York. It's Pop Warner's. Kurt Park Coat. Y'all, we go on to Jersey. We took first place at our locals. It's two weeks ago. Congratulations. That's competitive cheerleading, right?
Starting point is 00:12:30 Yes, I'm so nervous. I'm sorry. Yes, my daughter's 11 and my niece is 10. They both cheer for the same team. So I just wanted to give them a shout out and tell them all how proud I am of all of them. And get ready for Jersey, ladies, because we're coming up.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Regional, what's up? What part of Jersey? You know, Shala daughters dance, too. We're going to train. Trenton. Okay, well, good luck. Yeah, salute to your daughter, salute to all the chair moms and chair dads out there. My daughter does competitive cheerleading too.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Yeah. She's level six, though. I'm so happy to get through. Well, good luck, Mama. Thank you, thank you guys. Let me not insult her. I don't know what level she is. Oh.
Starting point is 00:13:04 She's a high level. I think I was walking from the park lot this morning. Construction worker stops me, goes, What's up, Envy? I've seen you at the dance spot. Now I see you here. I guess he's a dance dad like me. It's so crazy how many dads and everything you,
Starting point is 00:13:18 They'd be so excited to see their daughter's there. So salute to all the construction workers out there. Focus, doing the dance moves and everything. That's right. Hello, who's this? What's up, breakfast club? What's up, Traff? That's feeling, shit.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Jazz star. Hey, boo. What's up? How you doing since? How your surgery went? Yeah, it went well, actually. It went really well. I mean, I've never been under anesthesia before.
Starting point is 00:13:39 And I didn't realize it definitely knocks you. I was talking to a for lady. Like, I don't feel anything. And I was waking up in a whole other room with a cast on. Man, I love it. They gave you that stuff they gave Michael Jackson? I don't know. I'm still alive, so I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Trial, man. You, Tray it again? How old are you? 37. Okay. Yeah, it's the stuff they, it's just, I forgot what it's called, but it's when you get a colonoscopy or endognoscopy, they give you this medicine, and they say, hey, this is what Michael Jackson was taken,
Starting point is 00:14:08 and you'll be out in seconds. They don't supposed to say that. They don't see that. Doctors can't see that. That's what doctors told me. Yeah, doctor, I ought have been a little, I'm glad I didn't tell me that. I'd have been scared. Well, I mean...
Starting point is 00:14:18 This niggins said, I'm still alive. They ain't giving me the big game. But how deep did they go, Trabb? Whoa. Well, here you go, Charlemagne. Listen, y'all doing this breakfast club documentary, right? And I just feel like y'all need to include some of the, you know, fans that help build the breakfast club. Oh, snap, like who?
Starting point is 00:14:38 Maybe. You know, I'm just saying, you know, there are some fans who, you know, you know, Jeff, do you know who the very first guest co-host was on the breakfast club? No. Who? Me? I don't know if that's true. Yeah, I don't know if that's true either. Sorry, that is true.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Stop saying that. But my memory is getting worse and worse as I get older, so I have no idea, but I don't remember that being true. But you know, I got received. I was the very first, I paved the way for Lauren and Jess. So, y'all welcome. Oh, I know that's right. Oh, he said he was the very first guest calls?
Starting point is 00:15:07 I don't know that. I was the very first guest co-host on the preface club. Me, Angela Yee, and DJ Envy. He wasn't there, Charlemaine. I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe that's why I don't remember. I wasn't here.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I have no idea what you doing. Yeah, he wasn't there. 2018. All right. 2018, we wasn't looking for no guest co-holds, though. I was the very first guest co-holds. I'm not right. Y'all wasn't looking for one.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I just did it. Okay. Obviously, he's still on the, he's still high from the show. Getting poked in the book. Being poked, but. Yes, man. All right, Tram. Love you, brother.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Thank you for God. Have a great weekend. That is a good idea, though. You might have, we might have listeners on the documentary. I definitely, yeah. Him. Definitely black Rob. Mellow.
Starting point is 00:15:44 His name is not Black Rob. is O.G. Rob. Oh, yeah. OG Rob, for sure. Get it off. His wool. Yes. God bless the dead. He's passed away. You didn't know? Look at her. She had no idea. Rest in peace.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Rest and peace, black rob. Get it off your chest. 800, 585151. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed.
Starting point is 00:16:19 800-585-105-1. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? InVey, what's the word? It's Mello. Mello, what's your birthday, right, Mello? Oh, yeah, you already know the vibes. Appreciate you, Kaine.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Happy born-day, Mellon. She's not in the room right now. Oh, damn. All right, well, listen, man. I just want to, you know, I don't spread positive vibes on my birthday, you were. You know, I ain't spoke to y'all in a minute. And I just dropped the new single.
Starting point is 00:16:46 You heard, it's me. I'm single. That's what it's called? Yo, stop. Yes. Oh, you say you're single? Yeah, I just dropped the new single. It's me.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Okay, well, Melo. He's the new single. All right. Okay. Lauren just walked in. Shoot your shot, Mello. On your birthday. Hey, L.L.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Fulbe, I just want to let you know I was the first one to give you that name. And I just dropped the new single. Give me a few months in a hill, and I'm going to spend your block. Spend my block for what? You're looking for a house. Oh, what? You wouldn't be calling you about house.
Starting point is 00:17:14 He's not looking for a house. He went to holla. He's single. Oh, no, I got real estate for a house. Oh, oh. I'm looking for a wife. You said, you want to, you said I want a house. I'm looking for a home.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Manlo, Lauren just walked in looking like Brandy and Monica merged in the one artist. Now you see it? No, I know. Okay, because you've been. I see the Monica now. You're acting like that's a bad thing. It's not. They're beautiful.
Starting point is 00:17:34 He don't know how to give a compliment. They're beautiful. They just ain't beautiful if you put them together. He don't know how to give a compliment. I cut my hair. He wants to say he used to listen. You cut your hair. That's your real hair?
Starting point is 00:17:45 Yes, it's gone. I'm going to be out here wild for no reason. The bob wasn't your real hair? The bob was my hair. Why are you cut your bobble? It was damaged. It was damaged so bad, so we started fresh. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:55 What you say, Mello? I like it. I said, you miss with black to excellence. Don't let him play with you like that. It's okay. It happens. You know, little people be angry. Your hands asked you, though.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I just watch my hand. I like the low cut. I like the low cut. Thank you. It's giving nine minutes. Imagine walking this, y'all. You're killing them. Make sure y'all get living on my birthday.
Starting point is 00:18:12 You were. Hands ashy. Her hands is ashy, man. Happy born day, Melo. Hello, who's this? What's up, man? Super Trucker. Super Trucker.
Starting point is 00:18:22 What's up, brother? Good morning, Super Trucker. Good morning. What's up? Charlottomay and my Carolina Brethren. How you doing? I'm blessed black and highly favorite. How are you?
Starting point is 00:18:30 What part of Carolina is you from? I'm from Jacksonville, North Carolina on the coach. Oh, okay, okay. Sooth everybody in Jacksonville, North Carolina. Get it off your chest, brother. Yeah, man. Nah, man, I just got a song out called Truck North. He's all to check it out.
Starting point is 00:18:43 I also got one out with my man, Chu Taylor, for the weekend. We just dropped the video for it last week, man. It's called Truck of Love. You got some flying lot lizards in the video? Nah, actually, I had a lot of lizards in the video for that one, man. He's singing about the trucking thing, man. And my man, True Taylor, we dropped the weekend.
Starting point is 00:19:02 So, you know, we just come a little bit of music, man, singing about what we love, grown folk music. Let's hear a little bit, brother. Turn a stick, well around. Kind of burn. some metal Carolina's sunshine got it out of the devil
Starting point is 00:19:17 crack off in the Tennessee needs some attention the O-T out on the bag and let them catch me flipping know the suicide calls me to be there in the morning 12 hours away
Starting point is 00:19:28 and I'm already on it in the road with that black bone rolling it'll be there by sunrise that's what I told them if you love it let's believe it came on 18 wheels
Starting point is 00:19:40 if you got it that somebody I ain't doing that deal And we won't get into it, no matter how far we are Specialist Master's a Lodka. Dropping the clues box, a Super Trucker. I dig it, a little sovereign soul. That's right. Tell them how they can find you, Super Truck.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Yes, sir, man. Make sure y'all check us out, man. I got to join with Tuesday a week here, so check us out. We're trying to run them numbers up, man. Man, salute to all the truckers out there, man. The truckers are the backbone of the economy. Thank you for calling. All right, they out here right now, working them long hours, delivering them goods,
Starting point is 00:20:13 people to make sure our country is running from food to medicine building materials all types of stuff man so sleuth to all the truckers out there that's right get it off your chest 800 585 101 we got the latest with laura coming up what we're talking about we do we're going to be talking about leila ali and clarissa shields because again there has been a conversation starting at the breakfast club layla ali has finally responded to clarissa shill she broke down like the boy is yours this morning oh he is like now i see the monica i'm really scared I just said it to you the other day. I said when I have certain hairstyles,
Starting point is 00:20:46 people say I look like Monica. The rest of the time people say I look like Brandy. You don't look like Monica. You still look like Jaja Binks. But I can see where you got the brandy and Monica where it's trying to go. All right. You don't look like them. You don't look like them.
Starting point is 00:21:02 You don't look like them. I do. They're beautiful. You got some symbolism. Just say you like the cut. You got symbols that remind you of them. We only talk about one back and forth, one boxing match this morning. It's not us.
Starting point is 00:21:14 All right. We'll get to that next. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Jess O'Larious. Sholomey and the guy. We are the Breakfast Club on this Friday. Yop. And let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren becoming a straight fat. Tell us. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.
Starting point is 00:21:34 She gets the details. I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on this. The latest with Lauren. The latest with Lauren. La Rosa. Sometimes she has facts. Sometimes she have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest. On the breakfast club.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Talk to me. Good morning, y'all. Good morning. He's L.L. Kulbe. Hey, so Lela Ali has finally decided to step in the ring, but it's on YouTube. So, she is
Starting point is 00:22:03 responding to Clarissa Shields and all of the whole, you know, Lila Ali is scared to fight me, a conversation that has been happening because of a lot of conversation that started here on the breakfast club. Layla Ali created a YouTube channel and an Instagram because she says she doesn't even want Clarissa on her Instagram
Starting point is 00:22:19 and she's doing multiple parts she released part one on YouTube where she explains how their relationship started, how it ended and addresses will she fight her or not. Let's take a listen to Layla let's take a listen to Layla calling You're having a script? Yes, no I'm trying
Starting point is 00:22:37 to look at my list but the list is not in the news here. This is why it's good to work with all the people because I'm just, you need somebody that can recognize the side of it was gross. You're okay? Shut up. Let's take a listen to Layla talking about promoters calling her and reaching out to actually get in a ring or to fight.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Back then in 2020, I did get to a point where I was ready to get back in the ring and show her why. Even though she is talented, I said it back then and I'm saying it now, but she can never outbox me. High level promoters did reach out to me directly and we had some serious conversations about
Starting point is 00:23:08 me making a comeback. Now, of course, she was never even involved in any of those discussions. then COVID happened. You know how that was, and it all went away, and I left it alone. Yes, so she also talks about the fact that... Is she said if they're going to fight it or not, or she ain't get to that yet? So in part one, she says that she's going to answer the question that if she's going to take on the offer for that, what was it, $15 million, $50 million? Yeah, it's three parts, so she didn't say it in the first.
Starting point is 00:23:35 It's two parts. She didn't say it in the first part. Basically, this first part is her laying out where the issue started, and she says that she actually tried to help. help Clarissa a lot in the beginning. And she talks about the fact that it started here on the breakfast club. Let's take a listen to Layla on the breakfast club in the comments she had here. Fast forward to 2018, I was promoting my cookbook Food for Life and went on the Breakfast Club, a national show with millions of listeners. I did a 36 minute interview and when the topic of boxing came up, I actually mentioned her and made positive comments. Then much later into the interview, I was asked about the possibility of a comeback.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Just for fun. They didn't hear it because he hit the dump button. We had to hit the dumb button because there was a curse warning in it because, you know, nobody listens to the audio here. I tell you, we got the worst production team in the world. But, boy, your voice sounded different before you had that nose job. Yeah, I didn't know who that was. I didn't know who was there first either.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Your face is a little bit more stuffier, too. Well, you know, you had the nose job. I did not have a nose job. And then you had the cheek fillers. I had polyps in my nose and they had to take the polyps out. Whatever, King. I ain't judging you. But for people that didn't hear it, I asked her,
Starting point is 00:24:41 would she get back in the ring for issues and giggles because she said she retired and she said but they didn't edit the issues out because we got the worst production team in the history of morning radio shut up y'all no yeah um well she also too says and this kind of broke my heart to hear and i did reach out to Clarissa to see if she wanted to call in today to respond to it but she went to X and all she said was look we fighters let's fight
Starting point is 00:25:05 but what broke your heart it broke my heart because Layla Ali did a lot of like laying out the platform of She actually was trying to help Clarissa. She said when Clarissa first started, she was calling her like Big Sis. So, like, they had a relationship. She said that she was helping Clarissa understand how to, like, build your brand, you know, how to go between different weight classes.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Why that break your heart? Because it's like, you know, at some point, Clarissa feels like she didn't have support no more. My Lord, is so into this celebrity life, boy. You know what I'm saying? It broke my heart before to cut, Jess. You know what Layla doing? Layla's selling a fight, and I'm glad.
Starting point is 00:25:40 All I'm seeing. is a lead up to a fight. That's what I'm seeing. It could be possible to be the fact that, you know, people have been issuing on Layla saying Lailie hasn't been supportive, Lela hasn't supported for Mr. Charles, that she's a mean girl. And she broke down and had receipts to, no, I broke down with her. I told her this.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I'm the one that, you know, encouraged her to do this. I've always supported her and she showed the receipts. I was the first one to interview her. I did all that. So she broke down everything she did. Oh, that's the hype building up for a fight. That's what I see. And even when she said, I saw something that she said,
Starting point is 00:26:11 yesterday when Clarissa met her she told her that when you hear about the face of female boxing it's Layla and she wanted that to be her Yeah basically yep Layla is basically saying that Clarissa's doing all of this because it's clout and she's jealous of her
Starting point is 00:26:27 now there was she did put together a lot of different receipts that she gathered there was one part where Clarissa was recently on Jamel Hills podcast talking about what she teaches younger boxers and Layla Ali is like this is a perfect example of I helped her.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Now she's using what I taught her and trying to make it seem like I never had a relationship with her. Let's take a listen to her on Jim Lohill. Here she is on a recent podcast explaining how she's passing the torch and that she has created a blueprint for success which she is now sharing with other female fighters. She says that the number one thing they need to know
Starting point is 00:27:00 is how to build their brand. It's a blueprint now on how you make a million dollars even if you don't have the gold medals. The biggest blueprint is build your brand. Oh, she must have forgot years ago, she recorded this and said that I gave her the piece of advice that she is now referring to as the most valuable piece of information that you need to be successful. But supposedly I didn't support her and I didn't want to pass the torch.
Starting point is 00:27:23 El Ali told me to build my brand, a good brand, and the brand that I want to represent and stand for, and she said have good people behind me who I trust. So I guess if I'm supposedly jealous of her, I must be hating on them too, right? Nope, I actually celebrate other women's success. She's the only one who decided to make herself my opposition. I'm with Charlemagne, man. None of this matters for anything. And at the after end of part two, they don't say, and the fight is going to happen this date, this time. And that's what it is. They're building up hype for a fight. I know Layla don't need to build up no goddamn YouTube page. Okay. This is all for the hype of a fight. And I'm here for it. It has to be.
Starting point is 00:28:03 It has to be. YouTube and Instagram. I'm like, what is happening? I'm here for it. I just told Layla Ali if they do fight that she's back in the gym and she's sparring and she's where she needs to be physically because Clarissa Shields is going to knock her head off. You hear what Justice said? Yes she's probably been doing. And we don't know because she ain't posted in and all that. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:22 That's what I said I hope she is. She ain't just pop out with these YouTube videos for no reason. Layla know what she's doing and I'm probably, Clarissa probably in on it too. I hope so. When I hit and Papoos! Pappoos! Everybody wrote it. When I hit Clarissa yesterday she said she was in, she was at training. I
Starting point is 00:28:38 she's probably always just rudderly training but when she said that i'm what she's training for what's happening what's coming up next yeah yeah yeah yeah said papoosin on it too win records yeah no because you know uh clarissa just did uh gilly she just sat down with gilly and they was talking back and forth whileo was talking and everything and then we heard another laugh oh he right there i thought they were cute in that interview no they always cute it's just that they wasn't showing him at all during that whole thing and then you see him like oh damn he right there
Starting point is 00:29:12 a whole time well listen whatever these ladies are building up to conversation started here I think we should come here and have the conversation again I mean I want to be yes I think that would be a fight to see for sure so that is it for the first hour all right well
Starting point is 00:29:28 that was the latest with Laura now when we also today is Friday Shala what you doing oh yes on Fridays we do the people's donkey so you can call in 1-800 585 101 and give somebody to credit they deserve for being stupid. You can give out the biggest he-ha on Friday morning. So call us right now.
Starting point is 00:29:44 800-585-105-1. Front-page news is next. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess Hilarious. Sholomey Naga. We are the breakfast club. Let's get some front-page news.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Now, so quick baseball. The Blue Jays beat the Mariners 8-2. The Dodgers beat the Brewers 3-1 tonight. The Blue Jays play at 608. And the Brewers play the Dodgers at 838. What's up, Mimi? Good morning, N-V-Jol-Lame. How y'all doing?
Starting point is 00:30:07 Peace. Mimi. I forgot to say, I'm so sorry. The Steelers lost last night. The Bengals beat the Steelers 33, 31 in NFL Thursday night football. What's up, Mimi? All right. Well, we start this hour in New York City where the first mayorial debate is still in the books. And all three candidates, they came ready to make their case to voters. Democrat, Zeran Mondani, independent Andrew Cuomo and Republican Curtis Slee-Wa faced off for two hours. This was the first general election debate and it didn't take long for things to heat up. Now, Lundani, the 33-year-old Democratic Socialist, is leading in the polls. He took most of the heat with his rivals questioning his experience and how he plans to pay for his big ideas on housing and affordability. Let's listen to that exchange.
Starting point is 00:30:50 He's never had a job. On his resume, it says he interned for his mother. This is not a job for a first-timer. Any day, you've got to have a hurricane. Hey, it's Ed Helms, and welcome back to Snafu. My podcast about history's great. greatest screw-ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new snafu every single episode. 32 lost nuclear weapons. Wait, stop? What? Yeah. Ernie Shackleton sounds like a solid 70s
Starting point is 00:31:20 basketball player. Who still wore knee pads. Yes. It's going to be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and a whole lot of guests. The great Paul Shear made me feel good. I'm like, oh, wow. Angela and Jenna, I am so psyched. You're here. What was that like for? for you to soft launch into the show. Sorry, Jenna, I'll be asking the questions today. I forgot whose podcasts we were doing. Nick Kroll. I hope this story is good enough to get you to toss that sandwich.
Starting point is 00:31:51 So let's see how it goes. Listen to season four of Snap-Fu with Ed Helms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. People called them murderers. Ten years later, they were gone. odds. Today, no one knows their names. A group of maverick surgeons who took on the medical establishment who risked everything to invent open heart surgery. Welcome to the Wild West of American Medicine. I'm Chris Pine and this is cardiac cowboys. If you like medical dramas, if you like heart pounding
Starting point is 00:32:25 thrillers, you will love cardiac cowboys. Listen on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Sponsored by Jasper, AI Build for Marketers. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her. We know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national TV.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn, or any of that other stuff. that you all said it.
Starting point is 00:33:34 They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite-sized stories of missing and murdered black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting black women.
Starting point is 00:34:36 My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tamika Anderson. As she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact with several people, talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction. But Tamika never bought the car. And she never returned home that day. One podcast, one mission, save our girls. Join the searches we explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered black women and girls.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Listen to hunting for answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. You're, God forbid, a 9-11, a health pandemic. if you don't know what you're doing, people could die. Mr. Mom, Donnie, want to respond? And if we have a health pandemic, then why would New Yorkers turn back to the governor who sent seniors to their death in nursing homes? That's the kind of experience that's on offer here today. What I don't have an experience, I make up for an integrity.
Starting point is 00:35:44 And what you don't have an integrity, you could never make up for an experience. That was a bar. Yeah, he was shooting. He was shooting. That was a ball. Absolutely. And, you know, also the debate, it turned national with all three candidates asking how, how, they would work with President Trump if they were elected mayor. Let's listen to some of that
Starting point is 00:36:02 exchange. I'd like to work with you. I think we can do good things together, but number one, I will fight you every step of the way if you try to hurt New York. Unless he weaponizes the justice system to go after the attorney general of this state, in which case you'll issue a statement that doesn't even name the president. I would make it clear to the president that I am willing to not only speak to him but to work with him if it means delivering on lowering the cost of living for New Yorkers. You can be tough. But you can't be tough if it's going to cost people desperately needed federal funds. Zoran Mondami, the president has already said it's going to take $7 billion out of the budget right from the start if you're elected mayor.
Starting point is 00:36:40 What I would do is sit and negotiate. Well, Anna, let's say Cuomo showed command of the issues but spent much of his time on the defense. Mondami, he stood out with his stage presence and those sharp sound bites we just heard. Critics, though, say he sidestepped questions about his past. progressive positions. He even apologized again for past tweets and Sliwa. He came out like a street level fighter. He kept swinging at both of them as he stood right in the middle. Now, the latest polls show that Mondami is still in the lead and Cuomo is closing in and Sliwa, he is still trailing behind. Now, the next and final debate will be set for next Wednesday, October 22nd.
Starting point is 00:37:20 That's just three days before early voting begins on October 25th. And that's less than two weeks before Election Day on November 4th. Yeah, I do believe Mom Dani should explain how he plans to do a lot of the things that he says he's going to do because his messaging of affordability is a great one, but oftentimes I don't hear the how. And I also agree with the fact, I don't want to hear him keep apologizing for old tweets and old social media posts. That'd be the problem when you were a little bit younger, right?
Starting point is 00:37:46 Because they can't bring it up. That's the reason why. Yeah, but it's just like, yo, either stand on some of it instead of trying to, you know, avoid it or just... He backpedaled a lot of that. Yeah, he did. He either didn't stand on it or apologized for it. It's just like, you know, so you don't believe none of this?
Starting point is 00:38:03 And maybe he don't. I mean, you know, you post something when you're 20, 10 years later. You're like, damn, why did I post that? Right. You know, it just sounds like, I don't want to say childish because it's the world we in, but it do sound childish to have to keep apologizing for old, old, old tweets. Because Cuomo ain't apologized, but none of the charges he got. Nope.
Starting point is 00:38:19 They bring it up Cuomo, potential investigations and charges and killing old people. Nope, you don't. He ain't, he ain't apologized, but none of it. He kept the movie. He just like, that's not true. That's not true. Bottom of my, I'm downy, I didn't say the same thing. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:38:32 That's a, I didn't post that. That was a fake tweet. Yeah, right. Yeah. All right, well, let's talk about something we can all agree on, which is saving money, or at least we thought we were saving money until Amazon dropped this lawsuit, until this Amazon lawsuit dropped. Well, now two shoppers, they are suing Amazon claiming the company misled customers
Starting point is 00:38:49 during its big prime day sale that featured fake prices that made discount. look better than they really were. Now, in this new class action lawsuit filed in Washington State, the plaintiffs say Amazon listed higher original prices to make deals seem deeper than they really were. So for an example, a pair of headphones was advertised as 44% off $180, but the suit claims that that same pair had actually been selling between $130 to $160 before the sale. Another deal, a kid's tablet, was listed at 40% off 120, but according to the lawsuit, that same tablet have been going for as little as $50 a month before. So shoppers say that Amazon is creating
Starting point is 00:39:31 a false sense of urgency and it's pushing people to quick purchases calling the discounts false and misleading. Amazon has not commented on the sale, but they said that their July prime sale was its biggest sale ever, saying customers saved billions of dollars. We know it just wrapped another prime sale last week. And what this means for you, that if this lawsuit goes through, it would mean that retailers have to be more transparent about how they advertise their deals, which will mean fewer fake discounts and more honest pricing. That's crazy. I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Those deals always get me. So also, in switching gears just a little bit, let's talk about flying, right? So first it was bag fees, then it was legroom fees, maybe even paying for your seat assignment. But what if reclining your seat came with a price tag too? Are y'all still flying? That's ridiculous. That's crazy. Airplane tickets are already expensive enough.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Mimi, we can't pay for no reclining seat. That's crazy. Yeah, well, one airline is testing out that very idea. So WestJet, the Canadian carrier that flies to 19 U.S. states, including Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C., they are rolling out planes where standard economy seats no longer recline. Now, if you want to lean back, you'll have to pay extra. The airline says it's reconfiguring 43 of its planes with what it calls a fixed recline in regular economy. now WestJet says the goal is to preserve personal space
Starting point is 00:40:51 so no more battles over the seat in front of you leaning back too far but if you do want to recline you just have to upgrade to a premium or extended comfort seat which of course is going to come with a higher price tag but WestJet says this is all about keeping fares low but critics say this is just another example of charging for what used to be standard
Starting point is 00:41:10 yeah I never been on WestJet in my life and I'm pretty sure that I would never be on there ever now yeah I've been on WestJet before because sometimes when you go to certain areas they only have a West Jet, especially in Canada. But that's ridiculous. Like, the fact that, what happens if I go to buy a ticket and all the reclining seats are booked up
Starting point is 00:41:26 so I can't recline? I got to sit straight up the whole flight. That doesn't make no sense. Salute the Delta, Salute the Jet Blue. Those are my go-toes. You know what I mean? A United and American is cool to overseas, Emirates, okay?
Starting point is 00:41:39 You catch a Virgin Atlantic, that's great. West Jet, y'all kiss my ass. Okay. Charging for reclining. See how ridiculous that is? That's stupid. That's like charging for water. you might not get water on that flight
Starting point is 00:41:49 you probably won't yeah but they'll see when they get less and less business so what if a guy fly you out and he don't pay for your seat three time would you still give him something when you got that well you damn that's a charge now you can't even do that no more no yeah I can't well yeah y'all okay well that is your front page news
Starting point is 00:42:06 I'm Mimi Brown follow me at Mimi Brown TV for more stories follow the black information network download the free iHeartRadio app or visit BIN News dot com It says a lot about you though if you want to fly a girl out on WestJet and don't pay for their reclining seat. If that man don't play for your recliner seat,
Starting point is 00:42:22 man, he don't really value your vagina, ladies. I just want to put that out. Well, he can't be flying you out anyway because that's traffic. That is traffic. But not even that. It's not even your vagina, your neck because you can have a stiff neck the whole time.
Starting point is 00:42:34 You know what I'm saying? God dang. Imagine a man asking for oral and he then made your neck stiff because he wouldn't pay for your reclining seat. This is crazy. The world we're in right now is crazy. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:45 All right. Thank you, Mimi. Have a good weekend. Thank you. Y'all too. When we come back, the governor of Pennsylvania, Governor Josh Shapiro will be joining us. We'll talk to him next.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Salomey and the guy.
Starting point is 00:43:03 We are the breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building. That's right. I call him Baruch Obama. Ladies and gentlemen. Hey, man. Come on. The giant helmet.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Right in front of us. We have the governor of Pennsylvania, Governor John Shepard. By the way, is that Sepeon's old helmet? Because, you know, he's over on the birds now. You know what it is? It's signed by Sequartu, so let me put it back. The fact that you recognize that for Seaquin.
Starting point is 00:43:30 That's crazy. Come on. Well, good morning. How you feeling? Hey, I'm feeling great. Thanks for having me back. It's good to be with you guys. Good seeing you again.
Starting point is 00:43:35 You asked me how my family was before the interview. I want to ask you how your family is now because I saw this week that Cody Balmer, who was accused of an arson attack on your house. He played guilty and was sentenced to 25, the 50 years. How does that make, you know, you and the family feel? I'll be honest. It's been hard dealing with this as a governor, right, knowing that you're a target, knowing that in this world of politics we're in today, you got people who want to do
Starting point is 00:44:02 your harm. And I'm sure we'll talk about political violence. We're seeing way too much of that across the country. But the hardest part of this whole thing for me has been knowing that the job I love, right, being governor of Pennsylvania, serving the good people of Pennsylvania. put my family's lives at risk. I mean, this guy, he came in with Miletov cocktails. He firebombed our home. How do you get so close?
Starting point is 00:44:28 How do he get in? I'll understand and say, but I just want to be clear. He was wielding a metal hammer that he said he was going to use to try to kill me. And he not only pled guilty to arson, he pled guilty to attempted murder.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Damn. And so I think the thing for me that I'm just being really honest that I'm working through is how to keep my family safe doing the job I love that by the way I feel real purpose in right serving people and the notion that people now need to choose between their family safety and well-being and doing public service that's a hard thing for me to work through just as a dad you know beyond being a governor but look envy I mean to your point or to your question sorry um You know, there were tremendous failures from a security standpoint.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Pennsylvania State Police, who I do have confidence in, have changed a whole bunch of procedures, the home which really hadn't been, this was the governor's residence, really hadn't had any kind of overhaul from a security perspective for decades, has gone through that. I do feel safe there now. I do feel safe when I'm going around. I worry about my family, obviously, all the time. But it was a failure. And they learned from it. and I've got confidence that they're going to do better
Starting point is 00:45:46 if God forbid something like that, you know, it happens another time. You got to tell me how you have that kind of confidence. Yeah, I was going to say, how do you feel safe now? Because I, how do you know it wasn't an inside job? How do you know, you know, you really don't know who's who now? They got pretty close. It wasn't like it was, they threw it from the street.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Like, they got into house. He kicked down doors in your house, but just wasn't successful to get through those doors. And it was 15 people in your house. Yeah. Oh, there were about 20. We had me and my family. There's six of us.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Yeah. Our two dogs. And then we also had my brother, sister. and their kids, so my nieces and nephews. It was scary. I mean, you know, knowing that there's a fire and you've got these brave firefighters rushing in to put out the fire, pardon me, is they're ushering you out? I mean, it's scary.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Look, there are some things that they have done that are going to make what happened they're impossible again. They built a wall around the residence. We really didn't have something like that. There's now a dedicated crew of state troopers to patrolling the grounds. We didn't have that before. There's all kinds of new technology. I'm not going to get into it here that is going to make us safe.
Starting point is 00:46:47 And they've taken steps at our home as well. Look, I think you got to in this job, you got to have faith in the people around you to keep you safe. Otherwise, you become paralyzed by fear. And I'm unwilling to be a victim the rest of my life. I'm unwilling to be paralyzed by fear. And I'm not going to be deterred in doing this work. I'm not going to be deterred in practicing my faith. I'm not going to be deterred in being who I am.
Starting point is 00:47:09 I'm not going to be deterred and just being able to go outside and have a catch with my kids. You can't live in fear. And that is kind of how I've worked through this, and my family and I've worked through this so that we can go forward and do this job we love and try and do it in a safe way. You do believe that building a wall is a proper way to keep you're saying.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Man, I've always been for securing our border if that's where you're going. So what startled him? That was my question, because he was in the house. He had a hammer. What made him flee? What made him run? I don't know if you saw the video,
Starting point is 00:47:39 but he used this metal hammer to break a window to throw the Molotov cocktail, which ignited the explosion. Then he went to another window, used the metal hammer to break a window so he could climb in. Which really scary, which I don't think folks understood when they looked at the video is, he then tried to kick down a set of doors that literally lead to our private living quarters. That's where we all were. So he was a door away. While that was going on, you know, we've later learned this.
Starting point is 00:48:08 The state police opted not to go after him, but to get us out. and get us to safety, which was the right thing to do. And so we were able to be safe and secure while, you know, he was able to get away. And I saw you say that you've had an enormous guilt about that based off what you just said, you know, earlier about being a public servant, being a governor, but just still being a father. Is it worth it? I think it is, Charlemagne. And, I mean, it's a tough question you're asking me, right?
Starting point is 00:48:39 Is it worth putting your kids' lives at risk, right? I mean, that's a hard thing to ask, to answer. I think what, I love public service. I'm not trying to sound corny, but like I really feel like I get to make a difference every day. And I'm sure we'll talk about some issues. I think we are making a difference. And so I want to help other people. And obviously, the most important thing is keeping my family safe.
Starting point is 00:49:01 I think if you can have confidence in the people who are keeping you safe, you can't walk away now with everything that's on the line, with all the challenges we face as a country with my responsibility to, frankly, push back on what we're seeing in Washington, protect our freedoms in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Now it's not the time to walk away. So I think we're in a good place from a safety perspective. I am mentally strong and prepared to continue on with this work, knowing that my family is being cared for and protected, and this is not a time to quit. So, yeah, it's worth it. It's worth it to put yourself out there and try and do good for others. I saw you say that the conversations with your kids have been hard, right? Because of all of this, have your kids asked you to not do this job
Starting point is 00:49:46 anymore after everything? I want to be respectful to my kids' privacy, but I, you know, I'll tell you what it was like in the days after and kind of where we are today. We're blessed with four kids, 23, 20, 16, 14. What was really interesting to Lori and I, and 23 is a daughter and then the rest of boys, they each ask different kinds of questions. Yeah. And they asked him in a different way. And, you know, sometimes they were concerned about my well-being. Sometimes they were understandably concerned about their own well-being. My 14-year-old asked a lot of questions that were super factual.
Starting point is 00:50:25 How did he get here? How did you do that? What was he doing? What does the video look like? You know, stuff like that. And I remember early on in this, I just answered everything I knew. I told them everything I knew with as much granularity as I had. I remember my wife said to me, are we doing this?
Starting point is 00:50:41 Like, is this what we're supposed to do? Are we supposed to, like, tell our kids this? And I was like, I think so. I mean, there's no playbook for this. And so we were just brutally honest with our kids about both the facts of what happened and then the emotional questions that they asked. And I think that helped them get through it, too. My kids haven't asked me to quit.
Starting point is 00:51:02 My kids haven't asked me, you know, the real question you asked me before. I think they want me to keep doing this work. I mean, I think like any job that a parent has, it pulls you away from a game or it pulls you away from something they want. Like, that annoys kids, rightfully so. But overall, the idea that I would quit this job because I'm afraid, I think that would set the wrong example for my kids. I want my kids to grow up strong and confident. I want my kids to grow up in a world where they feel like they can do whatever they want to do and they can make a difference in the world. They're not going to be deterred by bullies.
Starting point is 00:51:39 They're not going to be deterred by people who want to come after them. Instead, they're going to stand up to that. I want to show that example. That would be a tough conversation. If your wife and kids came to you and was like, we love you, but we want you to step down. It's the safety of our family. Yeah. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Yeah, and look, you know, when we talk about politics, every decision I made ever run for an office or who decided not to run for an office or do something, it's always been kind of like, you know, 1% political and 99% personal and family. Because when you do these jobs, you've got to be all in. You've got to be willing to miss the games and the routine stuff, which you guys all, I'm sure, go through. Every pair goes through that. But you also have to be, you got to have your family all in to deal with the public pressures that come along with this. And my kids have been amazing.
Starting point is 00:52:27 My wife has been unbelievable. I mean, we've been together since the ninth grade. Not that we knew this was going to be our lives back then, but she's just been with me through everything. and she's like the most amazing support system and just, you know, my best friend in the whole world. I would just tell him it's going to be way less security if I'm not governor no more. Now, I read Kamala Harris's book 107 days
Starting point is 00:52:51 and I saw your comments on her book. And for those who don't know, the former VP wrote that Governor Shapiro seemed overly ambitious because you were, you know, up for the VP role. She said you seemed overly ambitious and you pushed for too large a role for a vice president and seemed unwilling to accept a number two positions. How did you feel when you heard that?
Starting point is 00:53:09 I mean, like, I haven't read her book. I'm busy every day, frankly, dealing with the effects of the fact that we lost the 2024 election. Dealing with Donald Trump wanting to send troops into our street. Dealing with Donald Trump, by the way, just a week or two ago, demanding that I turn over the entire voter rolls, including Pennsylvania Social Security number, driver's license, some of all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:32 I don't know what the hell he wants that for, but I know it's not for any good purpose. and he sued me when I wouldn't turn it over. I'm dealing with the real effects of governing in a world after Donald Trump won the election, so haven't read the book, haven't really focused on it. But what's wrong with the vice president being overly ambitious? If you're the number two to the number one,
Starting point is 00:53:51 shouldn't you be ready to be number one? I guess that's a question for her. She clearly thought it. And you also criticized her, which I thought was fair, for not speaking out publicly earlier about concerns over President Biden's fitness to run in 2024. To me, that's not just a criticism for the VP. It's a criticism
Starting point is 00:54:09 for the whole Democratic Party. You and I have talked about that issue. Yeah, look, I don't want to get into it with the former vice president. But, I mean, if you're in the room, you're seeing things nobody else is seeing. You had a responsibility to speak up, and she didn't. Hold on one lot of the thing about that, and we can move on.
Starting point is 00:54:24 But the book also mentioned, because you didn't read it, but it mentioned that some of your comments on pro-Palestinian protests were flagged by her campaign, but that wasn't a deciding factor. Do you think? Look, I wasn't in her head. I don't know what she was thinking. I'll just say to you, I think I said this to you before, just to keep it real. I mean, when I was going through that process, first off, it's an honor to go through that process. I said throughout it that she had a
Starting point is 00:54:50 deeply personal decision to make. In the end, Charlemagne, so did I. And I love being governor of Pennsylvania and calling the shots. Now, it seems like you two don't rock with each other too much, right? And from the comments that Charlemagne said in the book and things that you said about who? A couple hours. No, I don't get that. No. And by the way, she and I have done each other 20 years. I mean, we've worked together for a long time.
Starting point is 00:55:14 It doesn't seem like it's a united front, right? But sometimes you look at Republicans per se, it seems like it's a more of united front. It just seems like that front wasn't united with. I don't think so. Envy, I worked my butt off to help her get elected. I mean, I did every. I traveled with Gretchen Whitmer and Tony Evers
Starting point is 00:55:30 to all three swing states, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Johnson, Michigan, I did dozens of events. Hell, I even cut an ad for her. I don't think her campaign ever ran it, but cut an ad for her in Pennsylvania where, you know, I'm doing okay there. So I got no ill will, and I don't think she does toward me. What about, because I know you had a conversation with Biden,
Starting point is 00:55:52 one-on-one where you told him that you didn't think that he was like fit to run, right? You had conversations with the VP leading up to her announcing and all the things. Did you ever say to her, you should say something now? Like, people are relying on you? Well, I never had a conversation with her. I went directly to the president and spoke to him about what I saw were, you know, his challenges in Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:56:17 I was really honest with him. We got together at a coffee shop in Harrisburg. I think there's been reported. I mean, I'll just share with you. I was very, he said, how's it going? I was very clear. It's not going well. The polls are showing it's not going well.
Starting point is 00:56:31 I don't think you're handling the cost question back to what we talked about before with rising costs. It was a big theme in the campaign, big issue in Pennsylvania. I didn't think they were handling that well. I expressed that I thought people thought he wasn't up to the job. Not so much the job doing it at that moment, but the job doing it for another four years. Which I think there's a real difference there, and I was very honest with him about that. Look, maybe it's old school, but I believe that if you got something to say, you say it directly to that person's face. He's the President of the United States.
Starting point is 00:57:02 I respected him, still respect him, and I respected him enough to say it directly to his face. I was received. I think he heard it. He told me that their poll numbers were different, and he seemed committed to continuing forward. And listen, that's his call. Of course.
Starting point is 00:57:21 I mean, he was the President of the United States. And so to me, I thought I had a responsibility as the governor from arguably the most important swing state in the entire country to be very honest about what I was seeing on the ground and to be very honest
Starting point is 00:57:35 about the fact that I saw real challenges for him to get or for him to win Pennsylvania and I was also really honest with him
Starting point is 00:57:45 that I had shared a lot of this with his team and I didn't think that they were being direct with him and so I felt the need to take
Starting point is 00:57:51 what is you know a fairly extraordinary step and go directly the president and say this you can't
Starting point is 00:57:57 you should be amplified like I knew that story but the reason I say that stuff should be amplified because that's what's going to help you in the future if you do decide to run for president because I keep telling folks like look man anybody that wants to lead this party in the future has to
Starting point is 00:58:12 throw that old regime under the bus and it has to be people that told that old regime the truth about where they were at it wasn't a lot of y'all that did that can I disagree with you slightly on this I don't believe that you get ahead in life by throwing people under the bus I don't believe that I got to kick somebody
Starting point is 00:58:28 in order to get ahead I think you've got to show your work I think you've got to show a vision I think you got to tell people what you're all about and that's how you know you can be successful as a governor as a senator whatever it is that you do I made my point clear to the president
Starting point is 00:58:43 and the former president and I'm glad I did that okay how about being known as a truth teller in a party that lied to the whole country I think speaking truth is really important and I think I think people believing that even if they disagree with you on an issue or they disagree with your viewpoint on something, at least they
Starting point is 00:59:03 walk away knowing, hey, you know what? That guy was straight with me. I mean, hell, I think we started the conversation. I was at a farm in Lebanon County, Pennsylvania yesterday. This is not an area the Democrats go to. And I was there talking for real about tariffs and other things. And I kind of made a joke. I said, look, I know where I am. I know I'm in Lebanon County. I know this isn't exactly, you know, an area where I'm getting a majority of the voter, however I said it. But I wanted to be here today and I wanted to be clear with you about what I think, how I feel, and how I see things. I think what the American people really want, certainly people of Pennsylvania want, again, swingy estate in the whole country. I think it's a pretty good
Starting point is 00:59:41 indicator of where others are. They just want you to be real. They want you to be authentic and they don't need to agree with you on everything. Like, this isn't about everybody agreeing on a purity test. They want to know what's in your heart. They want to know what motivates you to serve and they want to know what you really think. Were you surprised when Trump won Pennsylvania? No. I mean, I saw when Biden dropped out he had been consistently down, and by the way I shared this with the former president,
Starting point is 01:00:10 he'd been consistently down five, six, seven points. When the vice president jumped in, you saw the numbers close. But they never, she never overtook him in any of the data that we saw. And look, I think beyond the data, I got a pretty good feel for my state. And in my state, you know, you get a sense of sort of where different areas are going and how they're moving. And she just never was able to close that gap. Now, look, if she would have won Pennsylvania by 50,000 votes, would I have been shocked? No. But you asked me, was I surprised
Starting point is 01:00:47 or shocked that he won? No, because basically by the end, when we were in that final couple weeks, you know she's kind of minus one even minus two something like that i mean it wasn't that she had overcome uh where where he was if she had separated herself more from biden do you think she could have won the state what do you think was the reason why she didn't i don't know i mean look what's the title of the book a hundred and seven days i mean she didn't she didn't have a lot of time yeah in fairness to her but uh it kind of goes back to what i was just saying a moment ago people want to know who you are they want genuineness they want authentic They want to feel like they know who you are.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And, you know, clearly that that was not accomplished. Oh, yeah, I just saw that they had made an arrest yesterday in the Kada Scott, the missing girl in Philadelphia, if you're familiar with the story? I just wanted to know because it seems like the police that are having issues with locate. I mean, she's still missing, but they don't have anything that they're tracing, like no cell phone, no anything. Do you guys bring in additional resources to help them? What's the case? Because I'm not.
Starting point is 01:01:51 So Katie Scott is a young woman. She's 23. she went a young black woman went missing in Philadelphia from work she was being harassed via phone by someone prior to that she told her parents now she's missing she's been missing for some time they just made an arrest in the case
Starting point is 01:02:06 a young man but they they haven't told us what the tied to him is in the case but it seems like though they're having issues with finding like her footsteps leading up to that like cell phone anything or just whereabouts whatsoever I don't want to get ahead of the police on this
Starting point is 01:02:22 it is an awful, awful case. And just my prayers go out to her family. I can tell you that the Pennsylvania State Police, which I oversee through our state police commissioner, we work very closely with local authorities, including the Philadelphia Police. And the Philadelphia Police are outstanding in these cases. And I'm confident that they'll get to the bottom of it.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Our technology, our unique know-how, the tools we have to solve these. kinds of cases are always brought to bear to work with our municipal partners to make sure that we address crime in our communities. I mean, this is an awful case and hopefully they'll get to the bottom of it. I would also just caution you, you know, I mean, it's respectfully to you and anyone in the media. There are lots of cases where we can't share all the information with the media as we're
Starting point is 01:03:16 working them because sometimes you don't want something to come out at first. you know, you provide that transparency when the case is sort of closed. But we're kind of still in the midst of this one right now. And so I think, you know, not everything is being. Hey, it's Ed Helms and welcome back to Snafu, my podcast about history's greatest screw-ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new snafu every single episode. 32 lost nuclear weapons. Wait, stop.
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Starting point is 01:07:54 But I got a lot of faith in the Philadelphia Police and I can tell you that the Pennsylvania State Police is always at the ready to support them and every other municipal department. I got one last question. You got a 62% approval rate, right? How do you measure success? By polling numbers are lives changed?
Starting point is 01:08:12 Oh, lives change. And look, for as wonderful to have a 62% approval rating in the toughest state in the country to run in, I still rely not on the data that you cite, but the feel I get from people, whether on their farms and, you know, downtown in, you know, Pittsburgh, Center City, Philly, walking down the street, having someone stop me and go, you gov and talking to me about something. That's where I get my feel from. And, you know, I measure it in terms of what people tell me they want done and going out. and doing it and the people's lives I touch along the way I got I gotta tell you I mean for me the motivation is not seeing a poll like that it's when someone says hey go five years ago I reached out to you and you know you were attorney general back then but you took on my case and you help me get you know get back my money after someone tried to scam me that's the stuff that fills up my cup and you know kind of goes back to the first question or one of the first questions you asked you know why do you do this and what happens if your kids told you not to do
Starting point is 01:09:10 it, I'm one of these people that is motivated by helping others. And I do get fulfillment from people telling me I made their lives better. And there's just an extraordinary feeling that you get from that. It's how I was raised. It's what my faith has taught me. And that is what motivates me. Not numbers in a poll. I'm grateful for that support. But knowing I changed someone's life, knowing I made it better, and pursuing the next thing and the next thing and the next thing that's going to help my communities out. You know, a life that, that Governor Shapiro changed that he doesn't talk about is Wallow.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Yeah. He's the one who pardoned Wallow. What made you want to pardon Wallow? I think there are people out there who had one bad day. Or in Wallow's case, had a few bad days. Let's be real. And there are those that don't learn from that. And they end up living sad and tragic lives, oftentimes in jail.
Starting point is 01:10:07 or, you know, in places that are dangerous for them. And then there are other people, and while it's a great example of that, he happens to be famous so you know about it, but there's a whole lot of people who aren't famous who do this, who learn from that bad day, who learn from those bad decisions. And they not only turn their lives around for themselves, but they then make a difference for others.
Starting point is 01:10:30 And those are the people that I try to find. Those are the people whose cases I want to come across my desk so I can affix my signature to a pardon for them. That is an enormous power that a governor has. To be able to sign your name and wipe away someone's bad deeds and give them an opportunity in life again. And I will tell you, I take that power really, really seriously. Wallow earned that.
Starting point is 01:11:02 He earned the right to have his case come across my desk, and he earned my signature because of the way. way in which he's lived his life and help make other lives better. The way he's helped other people get back on the right track. The way he's helped other people achieve prosperity for them and their families. The way he's, I think in many ways, changed in industry, whether it's music or the kind of influencer industry or what have you. He's done extraordinary things, and I'm proud of him. And I'll tell you what else I told him. I don't think he'd mind me sharing this. And I've said this to others who we've given second chances to, including those who I've granted
Starting point is 01:11:35 clemency to which means letting them out of jail even though they were facing a life sentence I tell them don't screw up because you are now an example to others I said that to me I've said that to a number of folks you now have an enormous power to do good in the world you're also an example and you've got an awesome amount of pressure and responsibility on you and so live your life in a way where you acknowledge that pressure you acknowledge that responsibility and man wallow has done that and I'm really really proud of them and I try and check in on him every so often and checking on others who I've issued pardons to or clemencies to just to see how they're doing and you helped meek
Starting point is 01:12:14 too yeah but he didn't want to be on the helicopter he didn't want to do no photo ops or anything he's like nope no because that's not what it's about this isn't about me being able to stand next to meke or wallow and you know some press thing this is about knowing that they did the hard work to get their lives back together and I've got this unique power for this moment in time as governor where I can give them some extra help but with that comes a responsibility and they've got to own up to
Starting point is 01:12:40 their end of the bargain and they are The way you are is how the spirit of so many other people in government should be like just the spirit I get from you in this conversation like you absolutely there's a genuine care for people to end up well I agree absolutely and that you don't feel that all the time hopefully we'll see you to see you. I hope we got free and fair elections
Starting point is 01:12:58 in 2008 so you can be in the mix they hope they get it right there we're going to work to make sure we got free and fair elections Governor Josh Shapiro Thank you so much Thanks guys Always great being with you He still won't confirm whether he's right in a not know
Starting point is 01:13:11 And we'll see you We're out We're out We're out We'll see you in another week To too I look forward to it Thanks guys
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Starting point is 01:13:24 Jackson Dart is seemingly Pretty good Is he's exciting yet Scataboo is pretty pretty good You lost You lost a neighbor Malik neighbors, unfortunately. But you cannot, over a long
Starting point is 01:13:37 season, hang with the Eagles. You just can't. You just can't. I can pray. I can pray all you want, but you ain't going to be able to do it over a long season. But they are a team now seemingly on the upswing, which I think is a good thing. And look, the birds have stumbled a little bit over the last couple weeks, but we'll get it back together. That's all right. Well, it's...
Starting point is 01:13:57 Championship team right there. As Governor Josh Shapiro is the breakfast club. Good morning. Let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren becoming a straight fact She gets them from somebody that knows somebody She gets the details I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything She'd be having the latest on this
Starting point is 01:14:13 The latest with Lauren La Rosa Sometimes you have facts Sometimes you have details Sometimes she have a little bit of everything Well it's the latest On the breakfast club Talk to me So Gucci Men is
Starting point is 01:14:26 You know starting to have some conversation About a lot of the things that we've seen Play out on Gucci Man's life over the last few years and where he is today because he has a book coming called episodes. Now, this book...
Starting point is 01:14:39 The diary of a recovering madman. Yes. It's out what today? It's out today. Out today. 1017. Oh, yes. 1017. Oh, yes. Okay. 1017. Out now. So now in this book,
Starting point is 01:14:48 and when I say these couple things, there's been so many big moments, even before the verses, there was like The Waffle House moment, like all these things. And he's saying he discovered that, you know, his mental health played a major part in that. Let's take a listen to Gucci
Starting point is 01:15:00 on mental episodes. When I was having an episode, like, man, it's like, it's like, it's so bad, like, it's so embarrassing. It's like, that's why I can see other artists when they're going through something and know they're spiling. Because when I'm walking, like, I say the most cruel stuff. Like, I might talk about your kids. Like, I say stuff that when I, when it's over with, I'm so embarrassed that I said that. It ain't a good thing, you feel me? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:20 I might say, I put your baby in the microwave. But in that moment, you meant it. Yeah. It's scary. Yeah. And then you be like, damn, I can't believe I said that out my mouth. You just tell everybody you sorry because you're like. the world we're living in you kind of got to stand on it you kind of but this thing is i don't be
Starting point is 01:15:34 on to stand on it yeah because i really i'm going through something i'm not well when i did that so that'd be eating you up like when you when you when you when you when you when you when you when you when you when you snap out of your um episodes or whatever and you see and you go to feeling that's a whole another that's a whole other thing that's a whole not so look to the big facts podcast too man yeah scream back j what's happening that's a little crazy to say you kind of got to stand on it you know i mean that's that's that's no that's that's not that's what this is about like you don't have to stand on and I think when people say you know you kind of got a stand on and that's just your pride in a way like no you don't you realize I think people are learning that now no
Starting point is 01:16:07 Justin I think he's at the point where he's learned that yeah banks a day yeah but I think I think like you said just like you stand on it because you say it and you're like damn I mean to say it but almost like your pride makes you do it but I want to ask all the y'allel yeah but also too though we got to remember if you read his book he was diagnosed with bipolar schizophrenia and he was on drugs out of his mind yes but I want to ask you know you read the book Charlemagne, you've seen an interview, Lauren. I think you read the book, too, Jess. I'm reading it now.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Reading it now. So after hearing all that, does that make you look at Kanye any different? Because it made me look at Kanye a lot different. I was at TMT when Kanye had the moment. I always, and Charlemagne, y'all know, yesterday we had a conversation about this, but I feel like if you were there and you saw that in person, I saw the switch. Like, I saw him come in. He was charming. He was so sweet.
Starting point is 01:16:51 And then it just switched. And it was like crazy to see. So you have to know there's something going on there. But here the thing, when you say look at him different, what do you mean? because I can look at Kanye and tell that he be dealing with psychosis and manic episodes. There's a lot of artists I can look at it and think that. But the difference between him and the Gucci Man. Got help.
Starting point is 01:17:07 His Gucci Man understands that, you know, his trauma wasn't his fault, but his healing was his responsibility. He went and got help. He actually says that verbatim. He's taking medicine and stuff now. But Gucci also has somebody in his corner, Keisha K.R. His wife. Somebody never gave up on him.
Starting point is 01:17:24 That's right. Let me read it. Let me quote something about one of his chapters in the book. is actually at the end of chapter 4 he said it's a reflection of the greatest lesson that I had to learn sometimes when you need help that's right the only person you can rely on is yourself
Starting point is 01:17:38 right so it don't matter God bless you know everybody that you know assist you but it starts with you yeah well he also but no am I because I ain't answered a question no it didn't make me look at him differently I look at him the same because you can just piggybacking off of what Shara says you can
Starting point is 01:17:55 definitely all like you could always tell something wasn't right with conge it wasn't okay because he would be okay one one moment then he would not be okay and then after hearing like kim's testimony to certain things it's like no i've been i've been looking at him like okay yeah it's his mental issues you know what i mean yeah and uh Gucci uh so they they start talking about some of the moments so they talk about the verses uh with Gucci and gizi and Gucci has you know he talks about some things he's never said before and reflecting back on that verses let's take a listen When, you remember after you did that,
Starting point is 01:18:30 and then he did, or Jesus did, I mean, did his part, you felt kind of like, damn, this got over here. Now, I'm gonna tell you somebody never said this, though. After I did, the truth. Yeah, the truth. Yeah. I'm glad that he stopped and did what he did.
Starting point is 01:18:43 Yeah. Because if he would have played State Scrub, I don't think I could have taken it. Oh, what was there? I'm telling him. That's what, like, he, I guess he said, let's calm it down. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Because it would have just, it would have been like a volcano. It would have blew up. Oh, you was already ready to go there. I see you moving. I was ready. I was ready to go down. I was in the heat of the moment. I didn't intend for it to be like that.
Starting point is 01:19:04 I intend to go there like that. Yeah. But then it's like once you get that, like it just, I, yeah, it just clothes on. Yeah, he's talking about the moment where GZ and him kind of were starting to go back and forth and GZ stood up and said, this is not what I invited you here to do.
Starting point is 01:19:19 We gotta think about the artists that we've lost and like we need to move forward for people and other artists to see that we are able to do that. And then he said one thing for certain, two things for sure. And then he played, I'm the realist. Yes. So he's talking about that moment.
Starting point is 01:19:31 And one last clip I want to play from this versus, because I thought this was important, too. Was him talking about Young Thug? And he says that he instantly forgave Young Thug because he was there. Let's take a listen. Thug says some stuff about me or whatever, right? And it came on the internet. But then he made a song and say, I missed my dollars about me.
Starting point is 01:19:48 I immediately accepted a polish because I had been there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I wanted somebody to forgive me. It's like a weight on the people who I won't forgive. They don't get no. come back. They can't come around me no more. But somebody forgave me, though. So that makes you be like, damn, I really take that to heart because I know how I am.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Yeah, and I thought that that was, yeah, I thought that it was interesting because I think, you know, saying sorry after you've been through all the things that Gucci talks about, he did, and didn't even realize he was doing. And being able to forgive thug and all the things publicly, I thought that that was important to hear. Also, giving another man grace, you know, men don't do that. They feel like they can. It's also pride and ego with that as well. So that's great to hear.
Starting point is 01:20:26 That shows evolution and growth because what he said was, you know, he's like, he's like, I'm at an age right now where I can't dive into the petty beef and all that. He says, if I don't mess with you, we don't mess with each other, but there is no beef. I'm not going at you. You go your way. I go my way. He said, I got two babies to raise. I ain't on it like that. Man, go get Gucci Man's book episodes, Diary of a recovering madman.
Starting point is 01:20:47 I know we say people, you know, when we were younger, we would say people are real for how menacing they can be, really for how criminal they can be, how gangster they can be. you know as we've all gotten old what we see is real as being vulnerable you know real is knowing that you need healing and going to get it and the way he's expressing all his issues in this book man and drop on the clues bombs for Gucci man
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Starting point is 01:21:49 and you get to give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid. So good morning. Who's this? Meese, what's happening? Who is this? Man, that's Audrey, man. That's on 8-4-3.
Starting point is 01:21:59 What's up? Hey, what's happening? Calling from the Chuck this morning, who you want to get the biggest e-haught to? Man, I'm sorry, Jess, but I got to give him to Jess hilarious, man. What Jess do? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:09 So I get the tickets to her November first show, right? In Charlotte. But I don't know how to do the dango meet-greet, man. Jack, how you do the dango me and greet? And I write you on Instagram, run. Ask you how to do the meet-in-gris. I got to meet you, man. How you mad at Jess?
Starting point is 01:22:24 Because you don't know how to body meet and greet Right, but you need a reason. Are you right? And you're right, but no button, shaw-le-me. I couldn't find the button, man. So how are you mad at just because you couldn't find the button? Because she didn't make it easy for me. She didn't make it easy for me.
Starting point is 01:22:38 I even call comedy zone. I still couldn't find that. All right, so that's what you do. Hey, damn, you already gave me dunk. Okay, okay. You wait until after the show, you pay me for the meeting greed. You don't pay them. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:22:52 So, yeah, you stay. and then you've got to come to the second show because I don't do meeting greet after the first show because they got to flip the room so if you go to the last show and you're going to get your meeting greet baby it's all good
Starting point is 01:23:04 oh hell yeah I get the same shit hell yeah okay okay I saw it it's all good till you realize that meet and greet $200 shut up no it's not no it's not
Starting point is 01:23:16 no it's not what is the show in Charlotte Jess when is it October 31st and November 1st at the comedy zone in Charlotte North Carolina and get your tickets at justelare's official.com.
Starting point is 01:23:26 The meet and greet tickets are not on the website because all that money goes straight to me. Not the club, not the agent, not nobody but me. I don't think the IRS needs to know that. Oh, well, they know you. Good morning. Who's this? Hey, good morning.
Starting point is 01:23:40 How are y'all doing? What up, though? This is Kendra from Detroit. What's up, Kendra from Detroit? Who are you giving the biggest he-haw to? No, Tedra. Oh, Tedra? It's like Ezra in the Bible, but with the tea on the front.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Tedra. Tesra. Who are you giving the biggest he-ha-ha-to? Ann Arbor Public Schools, my employer. Damn, what they do? First of all, I spoke to you all earlier in the summer. I'm the one who's colon ruptured. Oh, I remember that.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Yes. So the situation is this. Myosha has taken the lead. However, Ann Arbor Public Schools has yet to inform anyone that asbestos was disturbed during the renovation. and also they found cancer in my body Oh man, sorry to hear that But the thing about it is this
Starting point is 01:24:30 My faith is on slow I trust God And I know he's got me Yes, he does Period Simple as that And I want you to hold on to that belief I want you to hold on to that
Starting point is 01:24:43 I want you to have faith And know that faith and fear can't coexist But you still got to do, you know, the things that the doctor tell you to do but know that everything that is happening to you right now is part of a bigger plan that God has for you. That's right. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:24:56 I want to let y'all know I love you to life. We love you more. One day I'm going to meet you in person and God bless. Have a peaceful day. On purpose. Bless you. On purpose.
Starting point is 01:25:07 That's what I'm talking about. That's right. Period. Good morning. Who's this? Greg. Dre, who you want to get the biggest he-hardt to? Man, I want to give Lail Ali, man.
Starting point is 01:25:16 Okay. Why you want to give Lail Ali the biggest he-haw? Man, all Clarissa want to do is fight, Shulah, man. That's it. Layla Lee's saying all this stuff. Whatever they talk about back and forth. Whatever, they're speaking on personal stuff. Layla, Patricia's adamant.
Starting point is 01:25:31 She just won't box. Whether we're friends or not, we used to be friends that don't matter. I want to box. She did all that at was. Just box. Yeah, but you got to build up the hype for the fight. You know what I think? She ain't trying to fight.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Man, I hear what you're saying, but she ain't going to fight. I promise you. We're going to see. I mean, you're doing three parts on YouTube. I don't think Layton. Lylee doing this for no reason. He's just trying to expose her. That's what she's trying to do, personally.
Starting point is 01:25:54 I think Layla too grown for that, man. I think she's building up hype for a fight. I could be wrong, but we're about to see. You think they're going to fight now? You think they're going to fight? That's what I'm saying. I don't think that she's going to fight. I think at the end of whatever the series she's doing on YouTube,
Starting point is 01:26:07 it's going to end with nah. I choose to retire, blah, blah, blah. I guarantee you she's not going to fight her. Well, if she do that, I want everybody who's subscribe to her YouTube page and unsubscribe. I will go on an unsubscribe from Layla Ali YouTube page campaign myself if she do that, okay? Good morning.
Starting point is 01:26:23 Who's this? Good morning. My name is Charmaine. Peace, Charmaine. Who you want to get the biggest he-heart to? I want to give the biggest he-R-too this breakfast club this morning. Oh, Lord. What we do?
Starting point is 01:26:35 The lady who broadcast the news, she needs to, after she repeats what Trump says, she need to follow up with facts, like, facts behind it. Because when you only repeat what he says, the listeners believe what he says is the truth, and we know that's not the case. I agree with that. You are on a platform, and you said something very valuable other day
Starting point is 01:26:59 that the Democrats need to do be on repeat with their message. I think that you yourself needs to do the same. You don't need to be diplomatic right now. We're in a fight for our democracy. So you need to pick aside and stick with it. No.
Starting point is 01:27:14 You have to come as a guy. them the way they come at us. I agree. I'm a Democrat. No. No, no, no, no. Message to be on repeat, repeat, repeat. Because that's what common people that don't have really, like, analytical skills
Starting point is 01:27:29 listen to. Once you do something over and over and over, it's sick. So I do agree with you. You made that point the other day. So we need to do that. But I... But I... No, no, my side is the truth.
Starting point is 01:27:44 And the truth is, Democrats ain't all good Republicans ain't all good Democrats ain't all bad Republicans ain't all bad and we're in this situation because of the cowardice of Democrats and I'm going to keep saying that over and over
Starting point is 01:27:59 Well I don't agree with that because we're in a fight It's just like we're part of a family right now, Charlemagne and we just got that behind closed doors but outside we stick together that's what the Republicans do
Starting point is 01:28:14 no matter what this man Listen, we the people have to stick together. Not we to party. We the people got to stick together because at the end of the day, the resistance is going to come from the people. There's one branch of government. I call it a branch of government,
Starting point is 01:28:27 even though we're not a branch of government, but we technically are. There's one body that is not controlled by the Republicans right now, and that's the people. I'm going to always be here speaking for the people. I ain't speaking for no party. I am not speaking for no party.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Well, okay, I can't change your mind, obviously, but my opinion it still remains. I'm giving you the donkey of the day because right now we're in a fight to stick with it and don't divert because the Republicans that's their armory
Starting point is 01:28:55 that's their guns they stick to it whatever lies whatever trouble whatever thing they stick to it so we need to send a message and repeat your message that this man is just horrible
Starting point is 01:29:07 he's horrible but you got to say exactly what he's doing every day that's damaging the people okay and ask for you a message about hate I want to hear that my message about hate because it's a symbol of hate to me
Starting point is 01:29:23 yes ma'am thank you very much humans drive me crazy I literally just told this lady I'm on the side of the people not the side of the party and she's gonna repeat back to me what I told her after her calling up here telling me I need to be caping for Democrats I'm not doing that I'm not caping for Democrats
Starting point is 01:29:35 I'm not capable for Republicans I am on the side of the people that's it like this she said it like that you know what I'm saying God damn boy humans drive me crazy You're going to one more? No, I don't, actually. I'm exhausted now. I'm exhausted.
Starting point is 01:29:49 Thank you. We do that every Friday. It's the people's donkey. Who's got coming up next? Ty Dallan, right? That's right. Todd Dallan is up next. His new album, Tycoon is out now.
Starting point is 01:29:57 It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's D.J.N.V. J. Salami, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lorna Rosa is here as well.
Starting point is 01:30:10 We got a special guest in the building. Todd Alassan. What's what's going on? How you feeling, brother? Bless Black and highly favorite. New album, Tycoon coming. That's how you feeling? Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Tycoon on the way, 1017. What do you think defines the Tide Dollar Sign sound right now? Because a lot of people say you've helped shape like the modern R&B sign. So what defines the Tide Dollar Sign sound right now? Taking your time and finding the right, you know what? I mean? Like, damn, that's a question right there.
Starting point is 01:30:42 that's what interviews are for Ty you get asked questions that's a good question what is the sound greatness there we go my drop
Starting point is 01:30:54 okay at what point did you realize that you had more to offer the world I saw something where you talked about like this album
Starting point is 01:31:02 being for people who you know you dream but you know it's more to you when did you realize that
Starting point is 01:31:07 about Ty Dahlia I realized that like early early but especially when I got first job. My first job was when I was like 16 and it was at a subway
Starting point is 01:31:18 sandwiches. And I was in there going through the you know, when they teach you everything and I didn't come back. I went one day and that was it. I was like, I'm just can't do this. He was like, I can't do this. It's not for me. I'm about to go make music and figure it out.
Starting point is 01:31:37 Is that where you, am I getting this right? Is that where you met like YG and everybody back then? No, no, no, no. Oh, so you met him. That way? That's what you're doing? Man a sandwich? No, it was much later, though. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:48 Why Tycoon? Why is that the name of the album? Tycoon, because that's where I'm stepping into. My greatness. It came from Japanese word, great lord, and, you know, over here in English. It's like top of your game, top of your business. I did the artist thing.
Starting point is 01:32:05 I started the record label, Easy Money. We signed our first artist, Leon Thomas. He's now Leon Thomas. Yes, third. I don't think you get enough credit for that. Like people mention it, but it's like, no, that's $5.00-s-9 artists, which says a lot. Like, I always say, you know, you become a true legend when your tree bears fruit. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:32:23 Yeah, man. So shout out to Leon. I'm a champagne owner now. This is the champagne, the Bono Jean. What else we got? I'm about to drop a documentary. My daughter, let's talk about my daughter. My daughter's 20 years old now.
Starting point is 01:32:39 She's at Pepperdine, getting her master's. So shout out to her. That's what life was about. That's what I'm talking about. Listen, what do we bring real fruits? When it comes to Leon, right? Well, how did they meet, first of all? How did you sign Leon?
Starting point is 01:32:53 Where did y'all meet? We met at this studio session, like, during the pandemic, my homie, uh, Ali was like, yo, you got to check this out. And he played me this song, that California Cation song that we, it's called Love Jones now, but at first it was Californication.
Starting point is 01:33:08 And then it's Love Jones on his first album. and really I was supposed to put that out but I didn't put it out and then he was like I'm about to use it on my shit man we ended up signing on me and Sean Barron
Starting point is 01:33:20 because we always talked about making a label together Sean Barron is the guy who signed me to Atlantic in 2012 and now we got a label together so it's a blessing man you know a lot of artists
Starting point is 01:33:31 they'll see another artist with that type of talent and they'll basically like just take the whole aura take the energy for themselves what made you say nah man I want you to go fly on your own. Because it just reminded me of myself.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Like, at that time, just being great, but people not knowing what to do or, you know what I mean? So I'm like, yo, we got the label. Would you be down? He's like, what? Let's go. And we figured it out. What instincts do you use in business
Starting point is 01:34:00 that you gather from music or vice versa that help you be good at what you do? It's a total different thing. but in business it's all about getting the right team you know what I'm saying and I got a great team so I just want to shout out to them
Starting point is 01:34:17 because I couldn't do it all alone for sure how do you balance being a collaborator behind a sound but then being an artist in front of it because you know you work and produce for people everybody right yeah so how do you know when it just be a collaborator behind the sound but then switching now to do the album and being an artist in front of the sound
Starting point is 01:34:33 when it comes to music I'll just like give it what it needs you know what I mean I don't try to overdo it it's like if I'm if I feel like it just needs my feature cool if it's my song it's a whole different thing
Starting point is 01:34:45 you know what I mean it's the intention and you're talking about that you're also dropping a documentary yeah still free TC what is that about give us a little bit of buy
Starting point is 01:34:54 I know you don't want to spoil it still free TC is basically going to show you my whole there's some parts that are not in there but it's basically my whole thing from a kid all the way up until now
Starting point is 01:35:03 the whole trajectory like yeah deeper than any other interview has went or any other any other way you guys see me out there for sure that's on the way it's basically done I scored the whole thing and a shout out to the whole team that put that together as well who pushes you the most as far as creative
Starting point is 01:35:23 is it your artist is it another artist that you're in whether it's YG or whoever it may be who pushes you the most to say now I can do better than that I think I push myself the hardest just from just for Karen and wanted to go to the next level and just like all right that's cool but what can we do different all right that sounds like you know I've heard this before what can we do you know what I mean to take it to the next level I get real bored with music you know what I mean it's like how many songs come out of day you know what I'm saying so it's like what can we do to make it like interesting you know what's the wow factor who is your inspiration right because your voice is like timeless on anything you anything you put your voice on and makes it a hit, right? I love your vocals, love your voice. Appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:36:11 Who is your inspiration? Inspiration, tons. It could be, we could name back in the day artists all the way up until now. But I like Prince. I like DiAngelo. I like Jodice. I like Camarreal. I like all the greatest singers, Stevie Wonder.
Starting point is 01:36:27 Stevie Wonder is my favorite male singer ever. I could just, then there's rap. Then there's like house music. Then there's rock music. Then there's, there's tons. of things that could inspire me. You just love music. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:36:40 You remember the first Stevie Wonder record you ever heard? Or Stevie Wonder record. Maybe isn't she lovely? I don't know. I don't know if that's the first, but... That's the one that you felt like you felt. Hey, it's Ed Helms, and welcome back to Snafu. My podcast about history's greatest screw-ups.
Starting point is 01:36:58 On our new season, we're bringing you a new snafu every single episode. 32 lost nuclear weapons. Wait, stop. What? Ernie Shackleton sounds like a solid 70s basketball player. Who still wore knee pads? Yes. It's going to be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and a whole lot of guests.
Starting point is 01:37:19 The great Paul Shear made me feel good. I'm like, oh, wow. Angela and Jenna, I am so psyched. You're here. What was that like for you to soft launch into the show? Sorry, Jenna, I'll be asking the questions today. I forgot whose podcast we were doing. Nick Kroll.
Starting point is 01:37:37 I hope this story is good enough to get you to toss that sandwich. So let's see how it goes. Listen to season four of Snap-Foo with Ed Helms on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. People called them murderers. Ten years later, they were gods. Today, no one knows their names. A group of maverick surgeons who took on the medical establishment
Starting point is 01:38:03 who risked everything to invent open. Open Heart Surgery. Welcome to the Wild West of American Medicine. I'm Chris Pine and this is Cardiac Cowboys. If you like medical dramas, if you like heart-pounding thrillers, you will love cardiac cowboys. Listen on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Sponsored by Jasper, AI Build for Marketers. All I know is what I've been told and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
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Starting point is 01:40:12 I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite-sized stories of missing and murdered black women and girls in America. There are several ways
Starting point is 01:40:24 we can all do better at protecting black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing. and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tamika Anderson. As she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact with several people, talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction.
Starting point is 01:40:48 But Tamika never bought the car, and she never returned home that day. One podcast, one mission, Save Our Girls. join the search as we explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered black women and girls listen to hunting for answers every weekday on the black effect podcast network i heart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast that's just what i thought of right now when you said i could hear it did you grow up singing in church no choir i didn't i didn't i didn't really want people to know i could sing back then i didn't really like all the way know how to sing back then but it was in me but I was playing bass in church though for sure when you first started singing I first started singing when I was a kid but like publicly
Starting point is 01:41:36 you said what was her name? Yeah what was her name That was really my pops that got me into singing because y'all know my pops he did music as well he still does music to this day he just sent me this video
Starting point is 01:41:49 of him playing somewhere playing trumpet but it's just something that I've always loved and I get to make money off of it You know what I mean? You, I mean, your R&B, but it's like a different type of R&B. Are you, like, an emotional person in a relationship?
Starting point is 01:42:04 And that gives you info for your music, too? Yeah, I can be. Sure. I could definitely be emotional. How much of that comes from your own personal highs and lows, though? Yeah, some of it's personal. Some of it's, like, if I'm doing a song with a writer, you know what I mean, whatever. But I still put my passion into it.
Starting point is 01:42:27 You know, I still put my whole thing into it for sure. What's the last thing you looked at online about yourself and laughed? Last thing I looked at online about myself and laughed is calling me Jar Jar Binks. Oh, that's hilarious. That's what I called her. He calls me that. That's what I called her.
Starting point is 01:42:44 I didn't know who Jar Binks was before this. That's the line. You looked at it, how did you feel? Like when you saw him? Well, when you see the one picture from the Or-D-D-O-D-V video, the way my hair was. Oh, man. And then you put it next to Jar J-Jar Binks. actually hilarious.
Starting point is 01:43:00 Like, the shit's funny. You didn't laugh when they said you was on neon scream, kissing a man? Okay. See, this, Romani, man, that's the homie from Brazil. This is how he does all the homies. Like, oh, what's up, my,
Starting point is 01:43:12 man? And we told him, like, yo, he didn't actually kiss me, bro, if you really look close. But, yeah. He just made a m-smouth sounds. So what, I had a fish in that shirt on. That shit was sexy as fucking.
Starting point is 01:43:25 Your bitch was loving it. I know, that's right. How about that? Yeah. Yeah. Who that? Ooh that? That used to be regular.
Starting point is 01:43:33 Oh, fished that back in the, like, 90? I forgot what type of shirt that shit was, but that was expensive, too. Nipple peeking. I like it. You hear of me? That was the Jamaican shirt back in the day. It was. Did you have to explain that to anybody, though?
Starting point is 01:43:47 I don't ever have to explain shit. Where, where, where, where. You don't say much, he. Yeah. You had to laugh, though. It was funny. It was funny. I definitely called the, like, bro.
Starting point is 01:43:59 See, I told you a stupid ass. We don't even, that's not how it is out here. We don't do that. What do he say? He was like, man, I'm gonna be me every time. Like, you know I ain't, well, this name, well, he's married and shit, but. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:13 I saw you say that, is this album right? You said it's perfect for shrooms. Nah, I hate shrooms. Why you don't like shrooms? I'm describing it wrong. Yeah, like this. Back in the day, okay, uh, shrooms, it can be fun. People laugh.
Starting point is 01:44:26 But if a bad thing happens on Shrooms, it's that same energy of the greatness reverse. So I forgot what song it was. I think it was motion, like the song right before Vultures that I put out. I was going to do radio interviews up and down, California. Start off in the bay, drive down. It's just me, the rep from Atlantic, and the driver. And I'm like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:44:55 I'm about to take one of these little corners of this chocolate bar and go do these interviews, be a funny-ass, like have all the energy. You feel me, early more than all the shit. It worked well. I went and started and did my interviews. It was going crazy, just having fun. Then we get back in the car, and I'm looking at the phone. And the homies is like, well, I actually talked to my homie the day before,
Starting point is 01:45:18 and he was in the hospital, and I was supposed to go see him the next day. I had to go do these interviews, and my plan was as soon as I got back to L.A., I was going to go to the hospital. But on the drive down, they said he passed away. Oh, wow. While I'm on mushrooms, in the backseat by myself and nobody to talk to. And it's like, ah. And it made me just like never want to fuck with that shit ever again.
Starting point is 01:45:40 Damn, I'm so sorry. Yeah. Long live, my brother, Big Y. Damn. Yeah. F***. Mm-hmm. That guy, I was ready to do since I went home.
Starting point is 01:45:53 No. You never did. the actual plant? That was just the chocolate bar. I thought about that part, too. That was the chocolate one. And back in the day when it was the actual plant, I had way better times. So I don't know. Right. All that, uh... All that candy shit, no. You need the actual plant. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:12 Yeah, I didn't know the story was going to be dark. If I knew it was going to be dark, I was... I didn't think of it. I thought it was going to be like a fun. We didn't expect the trip to be dark. You know what I mean? But maybe there's light in that. Maybe there's... It's true. Maybe we just kept somebody off of doing drugs. You feel me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, definitely, especially the chocolate ones now, honey. Sure, absolutely. Leon Thomas in his career is, like, such a success story. I saw you call him King of R&B, right?
Starting point is 01:46:34 When you're looking for other artists now, is it R&B that you're translating? Or, like, what type of artists are you looking for now for your label that you have? Yeah, just like the greatest artist possible, like people that are actually good, people that aren't just like, you could tell, man, it's like certain people that just want to get famous or just get lucky. You know what I'm saying? Or just have popularity. And it's like, that should be cool. But when it comes to easy money, we want the real deal, you know?
Starting point is 01:47:04 Over at Easy Money, do you all invest in artist development? Because that's not something that's around anymore. Like you said, most people want to get famous just to be famous. Or, you know, for the shucks and get who's the likes and all that type of thing. There was something that I love that much that I believed in. I would invest in that. But I'm more so like working with easy lifters, meaning like that you got your your shit together. I used to have my old label, the movement. I've started many labels and signed
Starting point is 01:47:31 many people. But now it's like Leon has been the easiest person to work with. So now that's like my blueprint. It's like, if you ain't got it like that, then I don't even want to waste my time because it's the same as I am. You know, I'm like going to come with the shit fully done. I'm going to do my part. So now when I get my team, it's like, all right, you do your part, you do your part and we can all want it together. You know what I mean? So I want a person that has their shit together. The last meeting that we went, I said this in another interview,
Starting point is 01:47:58 but I'm going to tell it to y'all. The last meeting we went to at Capitol Motown for Leon, this fucking pulls out his laptop. Oh, you guys got an HCMI cable. They hook it up. PowerPoint display.
Starting point is 01:48:13 This is how the album's going to go. These are the directors I want to work with. These are the colors I want to use. This is my stage. I'm like, oh, this is all I need from Utah. Can you make this happen? I want to get Chris Brown on the song.
Starting point is 01:48:24 You feel me? Like, like that. Like, got your shit together. Easy money. You got a vision.
Starting point is 01:48:29 It makes it easy. You know. Were there ever any artists that in all of your label journeys? Yeah. That you didn't sign
Starting point is 01:48:36 and now you're like, oh, maybe they weren't all the way to having their shit together, but I should have because now I see them and they get it now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:45 Like your artist, you feel like you missed that on. Did I miss that on? Not for real. I like that. I didn't have my shit together when it was like when I first met YG
Starting point is 01:48:56 so we did it more team right you know what I mean but we still you know we still rocking my newest song I just put out it's my body pretty face
Starting point is 01:49:06 featuring a Kodak and YG I need I love making banger with you and Leon Thomas I got you okay just so I need a new question
Starting point is 01:49:16 that's what I want that's what I need Joe I ain't going to ask you no more all right I don't know I don't know I don't know if Alassan is a perfect person to do a crime with because he ain't going to tell him to pull me
Starting point is 01:49:25 I mean you can interrogate him all day he's going to be sitting there with that hoodie on yeah you know yeah 6'6 17 you know what I'm saying 41 41 41 ladies and gentlemen Ty Coon comes out on the 17th it's Todd Dallison it's the breakfast
Starting point is 01:49:43 club good morning yes sir the breakfast club morning everybody is DJ NV just hilarious shalaman We are the Breakfast Club. It's time for Pasta Oaks. What's up? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:49:58 DJ, because that's my DJ. I say, go, DJ. Because they're my DJ. Naila. Yeah, DJ, come spin. Now come spin. What's up, Naila? What's up, guys?
Starting point is 01:50:12 Big Nail. Nila, Simone. What's happening? Oh, nothing. Just another day. Happy Friday. Happy Friday. Friday.
Starting point is 01:50:18 And I'm going to get into some music. First, I'm going to start with this Big Eleanor. You know, Nause is doing a bunch of legendary projects with his Massapil label, and him and Big El dropped the record. It's called You Ain't Got a Chance Pats. Big Al still sound amazing. Yeah, what? Big Al still sound amazing, man. I'm going to tell you something, man.
Starting point is 01:50:35 Massapil is the best hip-hop label album. Right now? And it's not even close. Yeah, correct. Like, they're the best hip-hop label out. They put out Gold Shade Project, Ray Quam, Rayquam project. Mob-Dee project. Like, when it comes to just hip-hop, they're the best hip-hop label out.
Starting point is 01:50:51 Yeah. Purist. Curious, absolutely. Yeah. And this is cool because he's going to introduce a whole new generation
Starting point is 01:50:56 to Big El since he passed but... You said Nas is on that too? Yeah. I gotta hear that verse. Yes. And then next
Starting point is 01:51:04 I'm gonna go with this Molly and Tyler record. I know the internet is not in love with Tyler, but I still really, really like Tyler.
Starting point is 01:51:09 I like her music. I don't know why they do that and they just, yo, so grudges so long over stuff that ain't got
Starting point is 01:51:16 nothing to do with them. Yeah. But I love her and she just did a record with Molly who Molly has been I feel like an underdog in the Afrobeat world, and I'm so happy that they collapsed
Starting point is 01:51:26 because this is just a great record. And the record is called BodyGo. I think it's a little vibe. Yeah. You all watched Peacemaker. On the last episode of Peacemaker, they went into a multiverse, and it was all these little imps,
Starting point is 01:51:36 like these little small, little tiny creatures that was eating people. It sounded like a bunch of them singing. That sounds like a bunch of Gremlins. And I mean that respectfully. That was not dope, and y'all aligned. I just said it was cool. And Tyler be making some good records,
Starting point is 01:51:49 but that wasn't one of them. That's Molly's record. Who was Molly? He don't listen. Why? I thought you said to that day and just told us who Molly was. Molly is on Shake it to the Macs.
Starting point is 01:51:59 Shake it to the Macs. Well, whoever that was singing just now sound like the Grimlins when they was in the movie theater right before. Why we gotta be lying? If we like it, we like it, you like stuff that we don't.
Starting point is 01:52:09 When y'all say it's cool, y'all don't like it. Now I just said it's cool. I would tell you if I don't like it. You know, maybe this is a bad introduction. She has a really another, you like Shake It to the Max. Everybody likes Shake It doesn't know
Starting point is 01:52:19 I don't know what Shake It to Max. Hell, hell. That was like the song for the summer All I know is that sounds like the first single of Gremlin's three soundtrack. He's stupid, man. Right, that's what that was. You know what? It's okay.
Starting point is 01:52:28 I'm going to sing another record by her, I think. I'm sorry, Molly. She has a unique voice. She does. Yeah, she does. She's actually really fire. All right. Just don't feed her after midnight.
Starting point is 01:52:37 That's what it's not like. Sorry, Molly. I'm sorry, Molly. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The last record is with Jordan Ward and Sailor. You definitely know Sailor. No, I don't.
Starting point is 01:52:49 Yes, you do. Remember the Asian girl with the girl. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she's dope, she dope. She's dope. And Jordan Ward, you had liked this record, but I haven't played a record for him in like two years. But anyway, Jordan Ward and Saylor put out a single,
Starting point is 01:53:00 and this is leading up for Jordan Ward's new project, which is dropping next month. And the song is called Smoking Potna. Now, she sounds like a gremlin or edibles. Oh, my God. But I like it, though. You shouldn't smoke when you're a singer. It messes up your vocals.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Okay. He won for three today. That was, I don't know, man. I like the music. I like the music. I like the music. It's vibey. I couldn't get jiggy with that one, but it's cool.
Starting point is 01:53:27 I just don't understand what she was saying, but I definitely did like the music. That was Jordan. The part that you guys heard was Jordan. But he's vibes. He makes, like, vibey music. It sounded like it was COVID, and she was singing behind a mask.
Starting point is 01:53:39 That was a man, a woman. You stupid. That was a man. It sounded like he was singing behind a mask in the booth. Like, he had a little surgical mask on in the booth. It sounded very muffled. Like, the mix of something, that wasn't it. All right.
Starting point is 01:53:51 Well, if you guys like the songs or... Yeah, music is subjective. Don't take my word for it. The music is subjective. If y'all like it, cool. I'm not knocking it. Okay. You just ask me my opinion.
Starting point is 01:54:01 I did. I did. You know, people really be coming up to me playing records and, like, you think Charlam made a like this? I'm like, I don't know. I do not know. Well, there's only one way to find out.
Starting point is 01:54:11 Listen to past dogs. They might be trying to find out that way. You heard some feelings this morning. I know. Well, for those who do enjoy it or definitely went check out that big. Big Elyle-N-A-N-A-N-A-L-A-S-A-L-A-L-A-S-Y-L-A-N-A-N-E-E-E-E. You can follow me on Instagram, click the link in bio. I have a few playlists on my website, but certified is the one
Starting point is 01:54:37 where you'll find all the records from Breakfast Club. All right. Thank you, Naila. Now, when we come back, we got the People's Choice Mix. We throw it back on a Friday. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. You're checking out the Breakfast Club. I brought Ack is with us this morning. And we got a special guest in the building from Philly, Philly, Philly, the brother Danny Garcia. Welcome, bro. Thank you, how you feeling?
Starting point is 01:55:01 So good, feel good. Are you really having a final fight? Is this it? Daniel Gonzalez? Yeah. Like, retired, like, done, done? Yeah, I feel like it, yeah. Really?
Starting point is 01:55:10 Yeah. Why do you think that? Just, that's my 42nd fight. I've been pro since 2008. I mean, I won world titles. I had my ups. I have my downs. But just to be, I just feel like,
Starting point is 01:55:21 I can still fight, but I just feel like I'm not passionate as I used to be about it. Interesting. I don't want to let my fans down. But at the end of the day, I feel this fight, I feel good. I know what I got myself into. So it's my show, my promotion. That's what really motivated me to do this last fight. But other than that, I think that's pretty much it.
Starting point is 01:55:43 I just feel like I want to give my fans everything that I got in that ring. And I don't know if I could keep up that. that momentum and that type of The love. You don't want to beat up a couple of YouTubers though after that? Like, oh yeah, I'll do that.
Starting point is 01:56:01 I'm talking about fights they're like really count. The YouTube fights like that seems like you bring the biggest money at. We're fighting influencers. Yeah, that's for sure. No, I'll do that for sure. I'll still be an entertainer.
Starting point is 01:56:12 I still go out there. But the decision you made happen must have been doing training camp because when you first announced this fight, you said this is your farewell to Brooklyn. Yeah. But you're still going to fight again, but then seems like that changed. I said it was 85% chance that out.
Starting point is 01:56:27 That you were fighting again? No, that I'll hang it up. Yeah. Oh, okay. So what was the last thing? Because you said that was the 85. So what was the 15 is just because I'm a fighter? To what was the thing that said, nah, this is it?
Starting point is 01:56:37 Was it the training was like, nah, my back hurt? Like, what was it? It wasn't, it wasn't the training. It was like before I started, before I even started training. I knew that this could be my last fight. Does fatherhood play a part in it? Yeah, definitely. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:50 I got three kids, three beautiful kids, and I got my son, Danny, he's one. I got Pallas, she's three, and I got Philly, she's 10. So definitely just being here, I'm missing time with them. And my daughter's already 10 years old, and I felt like I missed her grow up, to be honest. That's how fast them 10 years went. It's like I miss so much. You know, because when you're in the primary career, everything's going so fast. It's like, everything's like, you miss everything.
Starting point is 01:57:16 And I just felt like I miss her grow up. And I don't want to feel that with my next. I have the two kids. He gained a lot, though. I mean, missing that. For sure, it's a sacrifice. You know, in life, you know, you can't have it all. You can't have that beautiful family.
Starting point is 01:57:31 Then you can't have the time. You can't have the money. Like, you just can't have it all. Every time you've got to sacrifice something. You know how it goes to be successful. You said you're just realizing that you don't have the passion. Is this something you're just realizing? Or, you know, even, I think your last fight was against what, Laura, right?
Starting point is 01:57:46 Yeah, yeah. And you got stopped in the knife round. Did you have the passion then? Are you thinking it was Wayne Going away then I thought I thought I was up for it And then
Starting point is 01:57:55 Remember I was out for 28 months Before that fight I was out And you know A boxing inactivity For a fighter That's the worst thing For a boxer
Starting point is 01:58:04 Because you gotta stay active You gotta stay sharp So I thought I could do it And I went up a weight class From 147 to 160 Damn Yeah So I was trying to do something legendary
Starting point is 01:58:14 But it didn't work my way You know But it's all good So let's talk about You took two years off this is because of anxiety and depression. So what happened during the two years that said, you know what I need to take a step aside?
Starting point is 01:58:25 Like what was concerning? The Banda Vitas fight to the Lara fight, I was actually already, I recovered from everything. That was from 2020 to 22. That's when I was going through like anxiety and depression. Then I came back, I beat Benavitas. I put it all behind me. I just started looking at life different.
Starting point is 01:58:41 Started being, appreciate things, being grateful. I felt good. And then I just sat around for two and a half years. Not because I wanted to. Because, you know, boxing is just sometimes just the way it is. Yeah. When you see these boxes get some of these huge paydays by fighting whoever they want, right? We talked earlier about YouTube stars and influencers.
Starting point is 01:59:00 Does that make you say, you know what? Forget quote unquote real boxing. I'm going to go this lane because there's more money in this lane. Yeah, I mean, I wish I would have always thought like that. Like growing up in Philly is like if you did like, if you promoted yourself or did anything weird, like you get clown for it. Right. It's like Philly.
Starting point is 01:59:18 They teach you how to be, like, real. But I feel like that's what we're missing. It's like the marketing part. You said real, but real what? It's just like, don't do not goofy for fame. Oh, got you, got you, got you, got you, got you, got you, got it, got you. Like, that's how I was always brought up. But it's like, really, you got to kind of have, like, a character.
Starting point is 01:59:33 You know, you got to be a fighter and you got to be a entertainer. You know, you fought some killers, too, I mean, you think about Thurman and that. I mean, I swear, I kind of forgot about some of those. I came in and we were just talking about it, but you fought Thurman, you fought Thurman, you fought a porter, or you fall a spitz, but you never got to stop. Do you feel like your toughness was taken for granted? Oh, yeah, for sure. Two out of those three fights, I felt like I won.
Starting point is 01:59:56 You know, those are controversial fights, especially the third minute quarter fight. Many people thought I won those fights. But no, I always knew, everybody knew I was gritty, I was tough. That's what got me here is my heart. So I never, yeah, I never even knocked down to my last fight because I took a knee, really. I got here with a good shot, I took a knee, and that's pretty much it.
Starting point is 02:00:15 I was going to ask you, what's the fight that keeps you up at night? Like, what's the one you wish you could run back? Man, keep the airman. That fight was like, I was my first loss. And I was 33 and O before that. So I never dreamed about, like, losing. So when I lost, I felt like somebody died in my family. Like, that's how bad it was.
Starting point is 02:00:31 Damn. Yeah. Did Floyd do that to a generation? I feel like Floyd did that to a generation. Floyd being undefeated made boxes feel like you've got to be undefeated to be great. I never really cared about being undefeated, but it was just like my first loss. It was tough. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:00:45 It's like your first time losing. I knew it was a possibility I could lose because I was finding another great champion like myself. But I just felt unstoppable. So when I lost, it was like, dang, I learned something about myself. So how did you recover and reset from that? I just took a year off and came back and knocked somebody out and then forgot about it.
Starting point is 02:01:05 What fight was that? That was Brandon Rios. Oh, yeah, yeah. And Brandon was tough. Yeah. You never seen Brandon get knocked out like that. That was vicious. Who was somebody that you wish you would have,
Starting point is 02:01:14 fought out of from your error that you didn't just floyd and pack yell that's about it floyd and pack yeah i feel like i fought everybody else yeah besides crawford but i fall him in the amateurs right but i really fought every single body in my generation did you did you ever try to make a fight with pack yale back when you were at 147 when he fought thurman they offered it they offered him me or thurman oh really yeah they said you want to fight danier or thurman and um he picked he picked uh thirman yeah that's so he was never an option though right Well, when I fought Matisse, and he fought Canello, remember I was the cool main event, I was told if I beat Matissee, remember I was like a huge underdog again, nobody thought I was going to win. But they said if I won that fight, that they were setting it out for me to fight fluid.
Starting point is 02:01:59 But it just never happened. Damn. And you know, you talked earlier about taking time off from mental health reasons. What did you learn about yourself during that break, that fighting could never teach you? That's a good question. I was always a warrior. Like, I was worried about stuff Like, I just, I learned that
Starting point is 02:02:16 I can't save everything You know what I mean? I can't change the world As much as you want Like, you try to help, you know, you try to do this You try to do that I just try to, yeah, can't save the world And basically, like, I just try to be living the moment
Starting point is 02:02:31 That's it Because most of the stuff you're worrying about It's like stuff that never happens And I don't know why I was always like that I just be worried thinking about things That's what anxiety is Yeah, I'll just be If I got a fight, I'll just be thinking about it
Starting point is 02:02:43 Every day I can't get my mind off the damn fight And I'm thinking that I'm focused But I'm really just psyching myself out But as soon as I go in the ring, it just go away But I just hate that feeling like, you know It's like you can't get that thought off your head You feeling like that now? No, I feel good now
Starting point is 02:02:59 The funny thing you said about marketing too I was thinking about it. I'm like, damn, it's mad people in Philly that know how to market their self and don't look goofy though Like Gilly, the Wildo's Kevin Hart Yeah, but before it was all a serious member But not Kevin Hart
Starting point is 02:03:10 But Gil, Gil was serious He was serious No And Gil did the chicken man though But he was serious about that We wasn't That is true Yeah
Starting point is 02:03:19 Yeah, that's true Now he's being himself He was probably always like that You know funny laughing around But you know In Philly is just like You gotta be tough Yeah
Starting point is 02:03:27 It's just how people It's how they talk They teach people Or how you raised Let's say you win big On Saturday At the Barclay Center And you retire
Starting point is 02:03:38 In the ring who would bring you back out of retirement? Like what fight or what fight you would say, you know what? Pops, you're going to do it one more time. I need like 10 million. So whoever. All right, so it's a number.
Starting point is 02:03:49 It's a number. It's a number. I need 10 million. 10 mil. The risk got to be worth the reward. Odell. 10 mil is a good number. But we wish you the best, brother.
Starting point is 02:03:58 And what's the platform again? It's called millions.com. And it's on direct TV. Okay. So if you got direct TV, you can watch it on there. So millions. Dot co is the platform. Millions.
Starting point is 02:04:07 Do you in New York. Pull up to the bulk. Yeah, or the Barclay Center. It's Saturday, the 18th. Get there, get your tickets. And like we said, we wish you the best of luck, brother. Absolutely, I appreciate it. Congratulations on whatever it is you decide to do, man.
Starting point is 02:04:17 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Absolutely. It's Danny Garcia. Ack, we appreciate you. Now, Solomon, you got a positive note? I do, but I want to salute Governor Josh Shapiro for pulling up, man.
Starting point is 02:04:26 You know what I mean? Always a great conversation with Governor Josh Shapiro. Make sure you go watch that full conversation on a breakfast club YouTube page now. Salute to Ty Dollar Sign for pulling up. His new album, Tycoon is out right now. In Birmingham, Alabama, I'll see y'all. this afternoon, because I'll be in Birmingham, Alabama at the Alabama Theater with former Vice President Kamala Harris having a conversation about her book that is out right now,
Starting point is 02:04:49 107 days. So I'll see y'all this afternoon in Birmingham, Alabama. October 31st and November 1st, you guys need to come see me in Charlotte, North Carolina at the Comedy Zone. We got four shows that weekend. We got two on Friday, two on Saturdays. So get your tickets if you have not yet. Jesterlaris Official.com.
Starting point is 02:05:07 I will be doing meet and greet. However, meet and greet is not on the website. So you see me after the second show if you want to partake in the meet and greet. Also, wear your Halloween costumes because I'll be giving away a cash prize for the best Halloween costume. That's right.
Starting point is 02:05:22 Now, the positive... Don't say nothing else after I promote. So dry. That's right. Go see Big Jess. Jessica Robin Moore. Okay, okay, okay. All right?
Starting point is 02:05:32 Listen, in the positive note, it is, be kind of yourself, be proud of yourself, be patient with yourself. Take care of the most important person in your life. Yourself. Have a great day. Breakfast club, bitches. Do you don't finish or y'all done?
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