The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: LeBron James Named TIME Magazine’s Athlete of The Century, Serena Williams Wins In Her Tennis Return With Doubles Victory + Nick Grant & Dystany Spurlock Interview

Episode Date: June 10, 2026

Today on The Breakfast Club, Nick Grant talks Smile, Bars & Books, J.I.D, TDE, and his interest in screenwriting. Dr. Steven A. Chambers discusses NYC’s Young Men’s Initiative, hustle ...culture, and destigmatizing mental health care. Dystany Spurlock also joins us to talk about becoming the first Black woman to race in NASCAR, her career journey, overcoming struggles, and staying on track. Plus, Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to a Florida pastor charged with child neglect after foster children were allegedly found living in unsafe conditions and without food. Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:35 Happy to be here. Another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning. Good morning. Wednesday. Middle of the week. How are you? I feel good.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Good morning. How are you? I'm good. My daughter got me last night. And now I didn't do it to my parents many of times. What? Where's 8 o'clock at night. Everybody settled in.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Just got back from practice and everything. And my daughter says, Dad, can you take me to Staples? I'm like, why? Because I got a project. I hate that. I'm like a project. I'm like, when does it do? She goes tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Tomorrow? I'm like, tomorrow, all right. So it's a digestive system project where they have to show the digestive system. So they got to recreate it, right? But now Staples doesn't have a throat pause. So I have to go to five below to get the floaties to cut it to make a throat. And then I have to get a jump rope to make the, like it was just. Y'all don't look at our stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Yeah, I was going to see. I don't know what the program's called, but it's a whole schedule. My wife can look and see. with homework they got due programs, projects, all of that type of stuff. We missed that one, bro. See? We got six kids.
Starting point is 00:03:31 We missed that one. So when you're taking them to soccer and dance and all that. So when she came home, she said she had a project. I was so tight. But I couldn't be that tight because I didn't do it to my parents many of times. I had to go get glue, gorilla glue. And then I couldn't, I was nervous to let the nine-year-old mess with the gorilla glue because I was like a finger's going to be stuck.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I see what happened to that girl online with her hair. So I had to help. So it was a long night doing the project. And she's better. If her teachers listening, she better get an egg. You should be final projects, right? What they call them? End of the year projects.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I don't know what they call them. Some things just don't change, y'all. I've done this. School you've done it. In two weeks. Charlemagne ain't even do no projects. No, he kept getting put out. Every school.
Starting point is 00:04:10 But yeah, so that's what I was doing late last night. I'm glad it was done to do tomorrow. Because tonight she'd have been on her own because I'm out to the Knicks. It's due tomorrow. It's due today. Well, it's due today. Well, it's due today. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Yeah. but if it would have been due tomorrow, she'd have been on her own because I'm watching the Knicks. On my daughter's projects and taking the Knicks. First three minutes I need to see Wimby on his ass, y'all. Okay, somebody on the Knicks got to run through Wimby's chest this morning. It should have happened last game, you know, for mushing, jailing, brunching to the ground like that.
Starting point is 00:04:34 But in the first three minutes, somebody got to run through his chest. I'm with you. What's that big center they got sitting on the bench? What's his name? What's his name? What's his name? What's the name, Red? Huck Pordy.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Huck Poy. Put Huck Poying in for no reason, okay? Just to run through Wimby's chest. from Germany. And I agree with you. Yeah, I don't want to see nobody get injured. But he needs that one to the chest where he knows. He's needed a force to the yard.
Starting point is 00:04:57 You can't push your best player to the ground like that like it's nothing. And every time I watch it, I'm so mad. None of the Knicks players did nothing. Like, your man, he got mushed. It was like a little fowl. He's like mush to the ground and he started laughing. And don't complain when it happens tonight, okay? Because the enforcement was outside of the stadium, putting it on the spur of that.
Starting point is 00:05:14 That was outside. And y'all got mad about that. That was outside. So when the enforcers was on the court this morning, putting it on. win me ass I don't want to hear nothing. That was outside. I didn't know on the fight? That's why they was mad. The people outside was mad
Starting point is 00:05:25 because y'all let them do that to brunches. That's right. They didn't do nothing. The Knicks is usually about their business. The Knicks is usually ready to fight. They didn't. But outside, they was ready for war. That's what I said. I ain't know if they... Mitchell Robinson should be. Mitchell Robinson, uh, nah, not cat. Mitchell Robinson definitely should be.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Hard a little bit. No. No. Mitchell Robinson should be. All I know is tonight put what's his name? Huck. If y'all see Huck getting some minutes, you know what that's for. And I would start him. I would start him so the Spurgeoning know exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:05:55 You don't start them. Start him. Put them in real quick. Start him in. Lay them out. Get back on the bench. All right. Well, let's get the show cracking.
Starting point is 00:06:02 We have Dynasty Spurlock joining us this morning. She's the first black woman at NASCAR, that's right. Destiny. You know damn Dynasty. I said Dynasty. Destiny. Yes. Destiny.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yes. She'll be joining us. She's from Richmond, Virginia. She'll be joining us. And like Charlemais said, she's the first black woman in NASCAR. Also, Nick Grant will be joining us. He has a new album called Smile. We'll be kicking with him in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:06:23 We've got front page news next. And get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1. If you need to vent, call us up right now. Get your ass up is Wednesday, hump day, middle of the week. It's the Breakfast Club. Come on. What an inclusive record, man.
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Starting point is 00:07:14 Like I said, tonight is game for 830 ABC. If the Spurs take on the Knicks at the Garden And we got to win this week I want Wimby on his ass in the first three minutes I mean the Knicks should win I said it's Knicks and Six I thought I think the Spurs are going to win game three Which they did and they'll win game five
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Starting point is 00:08:17 this morning off in Texas where a jury has found Carmelo Anthony guilty of murder and the stabbing death of 17-year-old Austin Metcalf. Now Anthony, who was 19 years old, was sentenced to 35 years in prison after the jury deliberated for less than three hours. Now, this case stems from April 2025, a confrontation at a high school track meet in Friscoe, Texas, where prosecutors say Anthony stabbed Metcalf during an altercation under a team tent after rain sent students. looking for cover. Now, jurors had the option to convict Anthony on the lesser charge of manslaughter, but instead chose murder. I asked defense attorney and Harvard law graduate David Otanga about the jury's decision to go with murder instead of manslaughter, and this is what he told me.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I still feel like manslaughter fit more perfectly just off of what I've heard. And Carmelo Anthony did not have a criminal record. It was a 3.8 GPA. Like for, and I, I believe he was captain of the football team, track star. Like, he was a good kid up until this point. So it kind of seemed like it was more reckless. This was a pocket knife, which it's being reported a three inch blade. I think the whole thing was five inches. And it was just one wound.
Starting point is 00:09:38 He just reached out and stabbed one time. So it wasn't like he stabbed over and over and over and then, you know, fled. And even then, you know, saying, is Austin going to be okay? To me, that doesn't sound like the words or the intent of somebody knowingly trying to kill somebody else, but it seemed to fit more the narrative of what potentially happened where he might have been defending himself. Was it reckless? Yes. And it was with a knife.
Starting point is 00:10:05 And it did end up, you know, causing Austin Matt Kaff to lose his life. But to me, it just didn't seem like that was the intention of Carmelo Anthony. That's a very important distinction because I didn't watch the court case. But one thing I kept wondering about was why did Carmelo Anthony feel like he needed to have a weapon on him in the first place? But when you say it's just a three-inch pocket knife, that makes a lot more sense. Now, Mimi, let me just, you know, because we've been talking about this case a lot. But let me just ask you again. So the incident that happened, they were at a game and started to rain, right?
Starting point is 00:10:35 And there was a tent. I guess the rival team's tent. He went under the rivals team tent. Carmelo went under the rival team tent. And one of the boys pushed him. And that's when the altercation occurred? Yes, in a nutshell. Yes, in the nutshell.
Starting point is 00:10:48 He didn't just walk in the tent and somebody pushed him now. Well, that's what they made the same. He was under the tent and they pushed him. That's what I'm reading. Well, yeah. And to the defense, they brought a witness to court who basically testified or they were trying to, you know, introduce that he was invited into the tent. That's what they were saying by maybe a mutual contact or someone that they both knew.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And that's why he ended up being over there. But it was a rain delay. And so they said that kids did that all the time. you know, get out the rain and come over to the other person's tent. And so... And somebody told him to leave and then there was an argument that ensued. One of the brothers told him to leave an argument ensued. And that's when the confrontation happened.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Absolutely. Now, during the trial, Anthony did not testify the defense. They called six witnesses, something that many people following this case are now questioning, giving the seriousness of the charge and the self-defense claim. Now, of course, we've been talking about this, as you said, in being a strong national attention. Anthony is black and Metcalfe, who was white. and there were no black jurors that were seated on this panel.
Starting point is 00:11:50 You know, I spoke to civil rights attorney Lee Merritt, who lives in Friscoll, Texas about the makeup of the area, the political climate surrounding the case. And he describes the area as deeply conservative. And parts of the area basically still have a like a Jim Crow mentality. And I asked him whether he believes there could be grounds to appeal. And this is what he had to say. Let me be the first to say the phrase ineffective assistance of counsel.
Starting point is 00:12:15 that is the most popular grounds for appealing this kind of conviction. And here, the assistance of counsel was completely ineffective. I think that they made the mistake of believing that the court could handle it. And this is how the court handled it. They said no cameras in the room. There will be no cameras in the courtroom. There was very low publicity. A lot of the video evidence that we knew was out there in this case was not made available to the public.
Starting point is 00:12:43 and that should have given the defense some consternation. They should have been intimidated by the idea that the prosecutor in the court was able to essentially try this case in a black box. We need public eyes on this. Otherwise, places like Colin County who are still stuck in the 1950s in Jim Corp segregation, that kind of atmosphere will show up in the Senate scene. I think that's what we saw here. Horrible, man. Don't let temporary feelings lead to permanent consequences kids.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Like I don't think his intention was to kill Austin either. But where were the adults? Yeah. Like, I mean, you know, we know kids sometimes don't have the best conflict resolution skills. Where were the adults in that moment? I mean, he was at what age? He was 19. He was at a football game.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Oh, he was 17? He was at a football game. There's kids and everybody going to attract me. Track me. Track me. Yeah, people were everywhere. Like, if you ever go to those needs, there's teens, there's parents, there's kids everywhere. Like, it's, ah.
Starting point is 00:13:39 It's a very sad situation, man. It's a very, very sad situation. And I just want to say really quickly that I've been talking to his father and his father just said that, you know, to please continue to keep us and everyone involved in your prayers as we navigate this, this challenging journey. So just, you know, wanted to share that. So, you know, it's such a sad situation. It's tragic on both sides. Both sides. Life was lost in Austin, Carmelo and Anthony going to prison for 35 years.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Like, just a temporary, you know, moment led to permanent consequences for two individuals. It's sad, man. Very sad. All right. Well, that is front page news. Thank you, Mimi. Mm-hmm. Everybody else, get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:14:16 800585-105-105.1 is the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wait, get it up. This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Good morning.
Starting point is 00:14:31 It's Rojay from Washington, D.C. Good morning. Peace, please, Roge. Get it off your chest. Good morning. Shalamaine. Good morning, Envy. Good morning, Jess.
Starting point is 00:14:40 I love you, Judge. Girl, I love you too. Oh, my goodness. So I want to be really quick. The two things that I want to get it off my chest as I get my little one ready for school this morning is one, the gas prices here in the nation capital is trash still. And with the weather being hot and you need an air and all of that going on, you definitely leave gas me your car and that's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:15:04 And then second is these parents pick up and drop off lines in the beginning of the year. They're like courteous. and they're, you know, letting the kids cross the street. Now it's the end of the year, and everyone's ready for school to be over. They are honking the horns. They are putting their hazards on, jumping out in the middle of the street. And I'm like, oh, okay, this is what we doing? Well, everybody's a little bit more mad because of them gas prices.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Gas prices and everything else high. The beginning of the year, people didn't feel like that. But them lines be crazy. I be in them lines. They be crazy. Yeah, no, definitely, no. And those are the two things that I just want to get off my chest as I'm getting ready for, well, getting ready to take my little one to school and get in the madness.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I even have to arrive 10 minutes early for pickup and drop off just to kind of avoid some of the craziness. Just, you know, just to have a smooth transition. Don't you hate when you're in that line and you wait in that line patiently and somebody try to cut you off to get in front of you? Oh, you want to get out of fight. Oh, man. Or are you dropping off and you got a good spot and then somebody pulled behind you and block in? Yep, yep, yep, yep. And then I'm like, well, where I'm supposed to go?
Starting point is 00:16:06 And they're looking at you like you in the way. I'm just like, yeah, no. But those other two things I wanted to get off my chest. Just can I say one more thing before I go? Yes, ma'am, the floor is yours. I wanted to say, first of all, I really enjoy you guys as a whole. I sit and watch and tune in every day. I feel like the little cousin in the living room, I'd be definitely tuned in.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Oh, you be watching on Netflix? Yes, yes. I'm on Netflix every day. I watch right before I even get up to take my daughter to do. She's sleep right now. I didn't even get her up yet. That's what it is. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:16:36 And then when I get it. back in from dropping her off. I'm winding from where I left off and picking up from there. And then also, Jess, I purchased your book on Amazon as an audio book. And as a mommy, myself, I love it. I identify a lot with the book. It has been helpful. Go pick up Jess's new book. Tell Deft, Do We Parent, available everywhere you purchase books now. Yeah, have a great day, Mama. Thank you for Joe.
Starting point is 00:17:04 You all have a good rest of y'all day. Thank you for watching on Netflix, man, because Jess told everybody, don't nobody watches on Netflix. I did not see that. Good job, Jess. Just talking for no reason. Good job, Jess. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:17:14 800-585-105-105.1. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Ray, Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlemagne. Lizzie, what up? Are we live?
Starting point is 00:17:23 This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool. I want to hear from you on the breakfast club. We can get on the phone right now. We'll tell you what it is. We live? Hello. Who's this?
Starting point is 00:17:35 Yeah, what's up? This is Rob from North. Rock from North. What I'm running? Rick City, what's happening? Get it off your chairs, Rock. Yeah, I want to talk about, um... I was the first one I said,
Starting point is 00:17:45 Good morning, break, how are you doing? Good morning, good morning, good morning. Yeah, I want to talk about, um, nobody talks about every time something leads to White House, he charges for it. Yes, he does. At least about the minimum of $2 million every time he lead the White House.
Starting point is 00:18:00 And when he went to the game yesterday, I mean, the other day, that was like $3 million. Taxpayer dollars. Taxpayer, got to pay, yeah. Extra security, the barricades, extra police, extra secret service, all that. I told you he don't care about us. Nah, we definitely had to pay for all that. We fit that whole bill.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Yeah, that's crazy. Rob, but who you got tonight, Rob? He said, yeah, that's crazy. I got New York. I got the Knicks too, man. Nix is six, baby. Nix and five. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:18:27 Nix ain't winning in five. Nix is winning in five. No, they're not. Nixon six. Nixon six. There's no way. Nixon is not winning in five. Bobby for the frog.
Starting point is 00:18:35 What up, Lovey? Nick Tennessee. Nick's in five. What's up, Lovey? First, respectfully, I want to tell you why I'm blessed black and highly favored. My daughter bought my first granddaughter into the world. Her name is NY. The initials are N.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Y. I don't know if I got that from New Envy taking New York, but tell to my granddaughter, N. Y, brought into this world. Congratulations, brother. You don't want to say the whole name? No, my daughter won't let me show me for pictures of her on the internet. Respectfully. As she shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I understand that. Congratulations, though, Lovie. But I definitely want to say thank you to Jeff, who Jeff, me and Rome hooked up. I'll be doing my wife, dad's matter interview with Rome at the end of the month, so I want to say thank you, Jeff. I appreciate you. You're heard.
Starting point is 00:19:16 No problem. He is very excited to sit down and talk to you about all things fatherhood, so I appreciate you for that podcast. That's dope, Lovie. No, it's love. It's love. And, Envi, I want you and Charlemagne. Charlemagne, I said to a mini movie.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Did he send you that mini-t testimony movie, Jess? No, he didn't see it. Okay. Hey, well, please, Solomon, please check your DM. Jail University did a many testimony movie about my single four-ahoe hook. I would love for you to watch it, girl.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I will. I watch it this weekend. I have some advice for all first thing. What's that? Don't hear you got Spurs jersey down eighth-a-half, fifth-ass, down, I don't want to be in New York, period, where no Spurs parapherny.
Starting point is 00:19:58 No, Jersey's nothing. I need, let's see, I need somebody on the Nixton night. to treat Wimby the way that those Knicks fans treated some of those Spurs fans for game for game. That wasn't right. They should get locked up for that. They shouldn't be beating those Spurs fans just for wearing the jersey. That's not right. That's not right. You know, they paid their money to watch
Starting point is 00:20:17 the game. They paid for tickets. There's no way in hell late. Nobody from New Yorks is beating up those Spurs fans. But we talk about basketball. I want Wimby on his ass tonight. You can't have it both ways. Yes, you can. No, you can. No, you can. I want him on his ass. Rambi's getting paid millions of dollars. That dude walking out That just got beat up
Starting point is 00:20:34 That energy It was just sad It was sad It was But that energy That was outside of the stadium Where you had them in forces We need that
Starting point is 00:20:42 The night on the court Put Winby on his ass First three minutes I don't even want Winby to get hurt Like them outside Was he getting hurt The other night
Starting point is 00:20:49 No no I don't want nobody get hurt But he need to feel a little bit By the way y' Y'all say getting hurt I saw some of them Knicks fans
Starting point is 00:20:54 getting their ass with Like let's not sit in Act like New Yorkers Was winning Like I saw somebody In Nick's jersey He had to go Go grab a stop sign
Starting point is 00:20:59 To defend himself Because they was whaling on his ass. Now that was Knicks on Knicks though. That was, I don't know what it was. I don't know what that was. I don't know what that was. I can't say that was Knicks on Knicks. I can't say that was one dude with a Nick's jersey and somebody else was in playing a lot of Knicks' shirt. So I'm getting his ass kicked. I ain't go sit here and act like all them Knicks fans was just out here whipping ass. It was not. But just remember we go to a lot of different cities to watch our teams playing a lot of different cities. We don't want that. We don't want to start that. We only go on to one more city for the rest of the year. They're back. But we don't want that. We don't want San Antonio who whipping us out. What's up, Lauren? Good morning, guys. We got the latest. We do.
Starting point is 00:21:35 It's in the vein of what y'all talking about. Game 4 tonight and people have a lot of questions. Good morning. Will Trump be there tonight? No, he's not. We're going to get into it. Watch parties and how that's going down because they are back tonight. They limited it a lot, though.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Yes. You can break that down. And Stephen A. Smith. So he responded to Trump in all of this madness. So we got some answers for the people plus us Stephen Ney's response. So we'll get to that. All right. We'll get to that next.
Starting point is 00:21:58 It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. I'm Cynthia Loyce. And I'm Josie. We're done pretending we have it all figured out. Each week we laugh, cry, and talk our way through life's messiest moments. The things you think about but would never say out loud. The questions you are always too shy to ask.
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Starting point is 00:23:59 No, I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life? That is not the look of an innocent man. This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever because everything that had existed prior in my reality
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Starting point is 00:26:07 All right y'all So game four is going down Tonight The Knicks are going to be playing The Spurs again At Madison Square Garden And now Will Trump be back in the building
Starting point is 00:26:19 No I saw Shams Who's a sports reporter Say that it's because of scheduling conflicts And other things But I think it's just I mean
Starting point is 00:26:27 Why would you want to come back It's too much going on Right Like So that's not happening before though. Yeah, but it was just a lot this last time. But I did see two people were having conversations about how the watch parties will go down here in New York.
Starting point is 00:26:41 So there will be watch parties that will take place for game four outside of Madison Square Garden. Now, of course, there's going to be security measures because we saw all of the stuff that was happening after game three. And there's going to be a lot of people expected to be at these watch parties. When you say stuff, it was fan outside fighting. Going crazy. Yes. The police officers got beat up, they destroyed calls. That was crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Yes. So, um, Dany tweeted yesterday that there are going to be watch parties, but they will be ticketed. And, you know, they're trying to, I guess, contain the amount of people that can come. But I still think it's going to be crazy everywhere regardless. This is going to be security like when the ball drops. Yeah. But they should have that anyway. If thousands of people are gathering outside of Madison Square Garden, they should have that regardless.
Starting point is 00:27:20 It's such a huge event. I don't think people realize how much those watch parties do for the surrounding businesses in that area because you had thousands of people who can't get inside the garden. They frequent. all of those restaurants and all of those bars and everything around the garden. So it stimulates the economy, man. Those watch parties are important. The only problem is people getting hurt, though, and could possibly be killed.
Starting point is 00:27:38 They got to make sure they protect the public as well, though. So that's why they're limiting tickets and things like that. Yeah, they're saying it's going to be ticketed. You must have a ticket to attend. The watch party attendees may only enter through access points on certain streets. The west side of 6th Avenue and West 33rd Street for those who are here in New York. How do they do that for restaurants? I wonder, like, you got to have a reservation?
Starting point is 00:27:55 Like, because there's restaurants there. I'm not for sure. From what I'm looking at. They're just talking about what I'm just talking about. going to happen in front of Madison Square Garden. All I know is I want Wemby on his ass in the first three minutes after what he did, the jail in Brunson last game. It should have happened last game,
Starting point is 00:28:08 but somebody got to come in there and give him a big old hack. Yeah, I'm with you. He should definitely be on his ass. Is he really, really strong? No. I mean, he's an NBA play, so he is strong, but they're stronger players. They're stronger players. He's a little light-n-ass. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:28:23 He is, he light-lask. Well, you talked about the watch parties and the energy that they bring. Yesterday, Stephen A. Smith was, or for last week, has been having a conversation about the fact that the watch parties couldn't go down because of Trump, and Trump being the reason that game three was lost by the Knicks. Now, for those of you guys who don't remember,
Starting point is 00:28:41 Stephen A had this to say originally about Donald Trump ruining or being the reason that the Knicks would lost. Let's take a lose. If it causes the New York Knicks to lose tonight, I'm blaming him. I'm blaming the President of the United States. I'm going to stay on that. And damn it, I hope the GOP lose votes because of it if we lose tonight. I'm going to be against I'm telling you that right now. You better not lose the night's game.
Starting point is 00:29:04 We better not lose a night's game. I've been fair-minded down the middle as an independent for the long time. Hell hath no fury like Stephen A. scored if the New York Knicks lose tonight. I'm going to be in their ass like back pockets, like White on Rice. I'm telling you that right now. We better not lose a nice game. We were riding. We were flowing.
Starting point is 00:29:23 And this man goes sit up there and show up to the guard in the night. I mean, you got to be kidding me. You got people got to show up four, five hours. before the damn game. That's what he's mad about. I'm mad about the watch parties. I'm not about it. I just want to know who has their back pockets
Starting point is 00:29:38 in their ass. Every time I hear that, it's confusing. Like, why do you say back pockets? You are heading into ass this morning. That's just crazy. But he was right. It did mess up, but that wasn't the reason they lost. And I hope that the NBA has a conversation
Starting point is 00:29:51 with these rest because we could all agree the last two games these reps have been horrible. Yeah. They've been bad. It wasn't just the refs, man. Cat didn't have a good game. He doesn't matter. Bridges didn't have a good game.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Jalen Brunson didn't have a good shooting game. Like, I hate when people say the players didn't play well. That's why they lost. But also, the last two games, the rest were horrible. They were horrible. The second game, they were horrible. And the third game, they were horrible. A lot of calls and made-up calls.
Starting point is 00:30:13 But if Kats scores 25 and McCell scores 20, they win that game. But there was a lot of bad calls. So Trump at that, remember Trump responded to Stephen A. Smith and said that Stephen A. Smith had a low IQ and it shouldn't run for president, right? He always goes to somebody dumb. Yes. Well, Stephen A. Smith responded. He talked a lot about the points that you guys just brought up the game and how the players played,
Starting point is 00:30:31 but he also responded directly to Trump doubling down in addition to all of that, that Trump ruined the game. Let's take a listen. Our president showed up in New York City last night. And needless to say, what I feared would happen ended up happening. The New York Knicks lost. And obviously I'm blaming him. Why am I blaming him, ladies and gentlemen? It's very, very simple.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Because the president disrupted our mojo. I've said this on many occasions over the last 24 hours, and I'm saying it. again. The man messed things up. Number one, New York Knicks haven't won a title since 1973. At that time, our president was 26 years of age. He was not a toddler. He was not a child. He was there. He was there
Starting point is 00:31:10 in 70 when Willis Reed walked through the tunnel. He was there in 1973 when Walt Clyde Frazier dropped 30 plus in a game seven. He knows, over the last 53 years, we haven't had a moment to celebrate since that period in time. He knows exactly what New Yorkers have been through, and he didn't
Starting point is 00:31:26 care. I didn't listen to the whole Stephen A. Smith rant, but that sounded too pleasant. Like, that don't sound like the, what do you say? He was going to bring the wrath and the fury. And we've seen Stephen A go way hard on people. That was too pleasant for Trump. Because you said that if they was going to lose, you was going to be in his ass like white on rice.
Starting point is 00:31:44 What he said? Back pocket. Back pocket. Okay. Yeah, it sounded like he was up in his ass just now. Well, he didn't sound like you was on his ass, to be honest. He responded across platforms, but he also talked about the fact that he called out President Trump. He says that Trump has been running from him.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Let's take a listen to Stephen A. on Trump running from him. You want to talk about IQ? I could say I put my IQ up against yours any day of the week. I could go one better. I could ask you why you've been running for me the last year since I've wanted to talk to you. I could ask you to debate me since you think you that do, okay? We can go a myriad of ways with all of this.
Starting point is 00:32:19 But I'm not going to let you off the hook because none of that is important. I do appreciate the fact that you called me a nice guy because you don't tell anybody. But I actually am a very nice guy. until you tug at me a little bit. And then after that, I got to show my other side. Nah, I listen to Stephen A lot. That ain't the energy I want it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:35 I needed him to give Trump that LeBron energy. This is a great country. You could just go at the president and say whatever you want, and then he could go back at you. And I also feel like because... First of all, who says you can do that? We don't know what the rest of it. We don't know what the consequences of Stephen A.
Starting point is 00:32:48 And Stephen A. doing that are going to be yet. That was from first take, but Stephen A. Did respond on his own platform as well, too. Yeah. And I feel like he has on his own platform, he takes more time with ripping into the fact that Donald Trump is just not a good He does a little bit more over there
Starting point is 00:33:03 But I do still Why you ain't played nothing to that? You play all the pleasant stuff? But I do still feel like it wasn't what you're saying Like I don't feel like he went in As much as we assumed that he would I ain't got nothing to because I ain't played for me this morning Lauren now I'm just lost
Starting point is 00:33:17 Listen we played what we had And in the next hour we'll be back with the latest And we're going to talk about LeBron being titled by time As the Athlete of the Century Damn! You know how I'm not. the century years, that's a hundred years. He's not the athlete.
Starting point is 00:33:30 No, he's not. We'll discuss it in the next latest. To me, but we'll discuss. Ahmad Ali? It's a lot of athletes of the century, 100 years. Yeah, I'm going to Michael Jordan. That's a long time. It's a long time.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Michael Jordan. But anyway, front page news is next. Don't go anywhere. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. All right. I say that. Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:33:46 We are the breakfast club. Let's getting some front page news. Now, tonight, again, is game for the spursake on the Knicks at the Garden. Let's go, 80. 30 p.m. And, like, everybody's been saying. and Wemby needs to feel the raft, the fact that he mushed Jalen Brunson on the floor like that.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I mean, even Draymond Green, he said if that was Steph Curry, if he was playing and they would have to Steph Curry? Don't not for one second think. He pushed him down, and none of the guys on the Knicks team did anything. Don't not for one second think that didn't matter. Oh, that matter.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Jalen Brunson stood up for himself there, but nobody else really did. I wish Steph Curry would stand up for himself right there, and I just watched Victor William and take his hand in the back of Steph Curry's head. What would Draymondson? I'm probably going to get thrown out right there. And it may cost us game three.
Starting point is 00:34:31 But game four. What was the thing you said to that Hanna Hoops account? I'm going to crush those. Oh, yeah. That's what you would have done. Absolutely. Like, by the way, you're not pushing Steph Curry by the back of the head down to the ground. And I'm seeing, Josh Hart was like, yo, no, you get right in there and you make something
Starting point is 00:34:49 to happen. Because guess what? I may get thrown out of game three because you just, you're not doing that. But when I come back for game four, you got to deal with me. And you know. You got to deal with me. You got to get in his ass tonight. First three minutes, somebody need to be in Wemby.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Ass. Oh, like back pockets. I'm with you. Oh, whatever Stephen they said. Yeah. He's on your ass like back pockets. What's up, Mimi? Good morning, Mee.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Jash Alameen. How y'all doing this morning? Hey, girl. Good morning. So we start this hour in Washington where House Republicans have passed a $70 billion immigration enforcement package that will fund ICE and border patrol
Starting point is 00:35:25 through the rest of President Trump's term. the bill it passed by just two votes and now heads to the president's desk for his signature. The funding fight comes as immigration remains one of the most decisive issues in the country with Democrats raising concerns about detention centers, enforcement tactics and accountability, while Republicans argue more resources are needed to secure the border and carry out deportations. And meanwhile, Trump's border czar Tom Holman, he's warning New York could soon see a major increase in ICE operations. The Holman says he's preparing to send, quote, more ICE agents than you've ever seen to New York after Governor Kathy Hogle signed new measures limiting cooperation between local law enforcement and federal immigration authorities. Let's listen.
Starting point is 00:36:11 She signed the legislation anyways. So I made her a promise. You're going to see more ICE agents you ever seen in New York City and it's coming. I just reviewed an operational plan. I'm not going to tell you exactly when it's going to happen, but it's coming. I'm keeping my promise. We're going to send more ICE agents to New York because you've done. took away the efficiencies of
Starting point is 00:36:29 safe arrest in county jails. So, Tom, it looks like Congress is going to finally pass that $70 billion immigration bill. It's not going to have that red tape. So tell me, what are the funding? Well, y'all's going to pay for booing Donald Trump at the game another night.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Jeez. Yes. Well, Holman says if local police won't help ICE, federal agents will simply increase their presence on the ground. So that's where we are. No timeline. As of yet, but as you heard, he said that he promised that that is something that he's working
Starting point is 00:37:02 toward. And staying in Washington, another high-profile name is now being pulled deeper into the ongoing fallout into the Jeffrey Epstein file. So co-founder, or Microsoft co-founder, Bill Gates, is expected to appear before a congressional panel today as lawmakers continue reviewing documents tied to Epstein's network and connections to some of the most powerful men. Now, Republicans on the House Oversight Committee, they requested that Gates testify after his name appeared multiple times in documents released during the Justice Department's Epstein investigation. Gates for, you know, has not been accused of any wrongdoing and has repeatedly said his relationship with Epstein was strictly tied to philanthropy.
Starting point is 00:37:43 But lawmakers are continuing to examine why several influential figures maintain those relationships with Epstein even after his 2008 guilty plea. Now, the closed door interview, it comes as Congress continues to dig, you know, into those connections, political connections, business and tech, including past scrutiny involving, you know, former president. So we'll see what happens. That is expected to happen today on Capitol Hill. I just always wonder about stories like this, man, because, you know, Bill Gates was some type of entertainer, probably a black entertainer. This would be front page news everywhere. You couldn't escape the story. But when it's somebody like Bill Gates, just, you know, white tech guys, it's like, yeah, he's in all over the Epstein. and he's testifying that they, but it's just like a blip on the radar,
Starting point is 00:38:26 even if it's a blip. It ain't even a blip. Yeah. People probably wouldn't even hear this if you didn't report it just now, Mimi. Yeah, there's a lot happening with that. And I don't know,
Starting point is 00:38:35 I feel like we got to keep the Epstein files in the news because there's just so many other things happening. And it's very important. And lastly, so for anyone who's ever gone out to dinner with friends and you end up stuck doing the math at the end of the day, at the end of the dinner,
Starting point is 00:38:51 Apple says it's trying to make that whole situation easier. So the company, they just announced a new iPhone feature that lets you point your camera at the receipt, tap what you ordered, and automatically send payments through Apple cash. So for an example, if you got the burger and the fries and your friend got
Starting point is 00:39:07 lobster and cupcakes, the phone can now split it up for you. So this is coming right in the middle of social media is having this etiquette debate right now. Should people split the bill? Should everybody split the bill evenly or just pay for what they ordered? And so Apple apparently caught on to that,
Starting point is 00:39:23 and they said that they are trying to help that conversation go smoother by helping you guys if you go out to dinner. Love it. Love it. Love it. Love it. What the hell you need apple for that for? I hate for somebody to come. No, because I hate for somebody to come to a big group dinner, right? And then be like, oh, oh, at the end, you're like, are we going to do a card or can I pay you for this? Now, you should know before you order. Matt Burger $20, the fries, $3, and I got one soda $4. You'd be surprised. Why do you need apple for that?
Starting point is 00:39:52 I mean, if you're pulling out your calculator to do the math. You don't optimize, yeah, but you'd be surprised how many broke-ass people come out expecting for a friend to pay for their is. No. No. You know what it would be? It'd be that, you know, like somebody that drinks a lot of dinner and they'd be like, let's put the bill. They'd have 10 drinks and you only have one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:09 But y'all should know that before anybody put something in their mouth. Who's taking care of what? You know what you got in your pocket. So if you know you ain't got no money, you shouldn't be acting. But that's what I'm saying. People don't know how to act their wage, shawl of a man. But if you're in a group with setting. with people, you should like, okay, who's paying for all of this?
Starting point is 00:40:25 Like, seriously, before I endowed, who's paying? Because if I'm paying, you know, my order will be a little different. Now, it's the truth. It's the truth. It's the truth. I can't stand it. But if you invited me out,
Starting point is 00:40:36 it's a little bit different. If I say, yo, come have drinks with me. Come eat with me. I'm expecting for you to pay for that. Absolutely. But I want to assume, but, you know, I think you can make all of that, you can figure that out before you even put something in your mouth.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Okay. Pause. Yeah, you keep putting things in your mouth today. All right, thank you, me and drink. I'm gonna put stuff on your mouth since the 90s. What? Stop it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:55 What's wrong you? Stop it. You heard of my lady. You're gonna stop. You're gonna stop. I'm doing. What was you? What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:41:01 You've been talking about asses this morning and putting things in his mouth all no more than this. I'm not been talking about no ass. That's you have. You've been on everything ass. This guy's lighten the ass. This guy's in his ass. I said put Wimby on his ass. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Then you said he's lighten ass. Yeah, he's lighten ass. Then you said I want to put something on his ass. I didn't say, man. Oh, God. That's why you've been doing it since the 90s. You ever wonder how he got all of them cars? That's why his father would be mad at him.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Look no further in his throat, huh? That's why he's father to be mad at him. Yes. He's like, uh-uh. Oh, sissy? What your daddy call you? Come on, say it. Say it one time.
Starting point is 00:41:36 What you mean that one time? I got the airing? Remember I got that erring? I got the errand. Damn, man. It was the left side, left side, left side. What do he call you? What he called?
Starting point is 00:41:44 This is the 80s now. You know what he's going to. You know what he called me. Came on me. I came on with that Aaron. He said, let me see. He said, what are you? Oh, dad, you can't say that.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I can say what I want to say. All right, dad. All right, pops. Oh, man. All right, that is from page news. Now, when we come back, thank you, Mimi. Thank you. When we come back, artist Nick Grant will be joining us.
Starting point is 00:42:09 His album, Smil is out now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Charlamania Guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Longer Rose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. His new album, smile is out now, ladies and gentlemen, Nick Graham. Welcome. What's up, y'all? What's up, y'all?
Starting point is 00:42:24 Full house today. Yeah. I love it. Yeah, this is the first time you got a full house? Yeah. That's what. It's halfway. Remember, I ran out and he came back again.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Remember? Oh, yes. You're right, you're right. But no, Lauren wasn't here. Then I don't think. No, Lauren wasn't here. How are you, my brother? I'm doing good, man.
Starting point is 00:42:40 It's going to be better. First track on the album is called another classic. Yeah. What defines a classic? Can you say that you got a classic? No, you can't. Okay. It was sarcasm in the title just because of my, you know, my two EPs, two albums before that was the Sunday dinner album.
Starting point is 00:42:56 So, you know, that was like, you know, my magnum opus into the game and, you know, people, like, really respecting that I can make a body of work. So, yeah, that was just sarcasm, just to play on words. Are you said that now the title of the album, Smile, are you telling the world to smile or are you talking about yourself? I'm telling myself to smile because last year was very, very hectic. A lot of ups and downs last year. I lost three people last year. Oh, wow. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I had a half of a sister. My cousin Young's a school. I don't know. People are. Oh, wow. Yeah. School there and I lost a childhood of friends. So it was like me going through that and still having to navigate the business.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Yeah. Just staying sharp. I didn't know you a school that was related. That's funny. I mean, I know both y'all from Walter, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I know y'all. Everybody related.
Starting point is 00:43:41 It's so small. Do y'all do each other when y'all's young and everything, too? Yeah, I grew up with Scooter. Wow. Wow. I didn't know that. And are you talking about it, like, your loss and going through it on the album? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Yeah. Absolutely. My sister being, like, the main person who was like, she moved me to Atlanta. She came to give me from my grandma. She moved me to Atlanta. And, yeah, that was like, you know, my mother didn't raise me. So that was like my mother figure. So it was, like, super close.
Starting point is 00:44:06 You know, so, yeah, you know, that stuff is, like, very difficult to talk about. But, you know, I just feel like somebody in the world, old, the young is going through the same. things, you know, it'll be criminal for me to not speak about it. And is that the image you have on your page? Because I say a woman on your page. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's your sister. Yeah. Did you want to quit?
Starting point is 00:44:28 Because sometimes, you know, people look at things and be like, I did this because of my sister. Yeah. I did this because of my cousin. And now that they're not here, I don't know if it's going to fulfill me the same. Man, I've always been very persistent. I mean, you know, I've been here a lot of times and, you know, been knowing you guys for years.
Starting point is 00:44:42 So, you know, it's other things that made me want to quit and not, you know, just give up just the business in general, but in a weird way, this kind of made me like keep going for sure. It's just kind of like, I can't stop now. I'm so deep in. It's like, you got a song on there called your price tag song. Yeah. Where it kind of talks about a lot of the thing.
Starting point is 00:45:03 It's like you want the success and you want to be able to kind of move on for certain things, but then there's a lot that comes with that. Like nothing in life is free and nothing in the world is free. Yep. Shout out West Side Gunny on, Young Chris, too, two guys that I just look up to as musicians and artists. Yeah, man, it's just that battle, that back and forth, you know, that back and forth. You know, that back and forth if you want all of these things.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And especially when you come in the game, in the game, you want everything. And you're so open-eyed and excited and then, you know. I said that in one of my records. Like, I came in the industry, a wide-eyed child. It's no surprise. They molested my style because it's like I had all of these things. Aspirations I wanted to do. And, you know, when you're younger and you see that and people see you, like, want it, want that.
Starting point is 00:45:45 and they have access to it. You did it. Oh, wow. Oh, my gosh. Jesus. No, you're not lying. It's true. I mean, I didn't even mean it in that way.
Starting point is 00:46:00 What way did you mean? What way did you mean? He understood what I was saying. No, for sure. For sure. So, yeah. There's executives that can take advantage of that. That was a better way to say.
Starting point is 00:46:10 For sure, 100%. And if you don't have a certain amount of stability, and your spirit and, you know, integrity, you know, you can get swayed. You know, you've always been labeled the lyricists, too. Is that a compliment or is that a boxer? Man.
Starting point is 00:46:26 So that's an amazing question. I love the label lyricists, of course. Of course, just from the people that I grew up listening to, two Pox, the Nyes, and the Jay-Zs, but now it's like we're in a certain area where people like,
Starting point is 00:46:47 oh, we don't want to hear that shit, you know what I'm saying? It's like, people don't want to think. people don't you know so that comes with it too so yeah I just think it's not the cool thing to do today be a lyricist you know I only mean I say I think sometimes you know you're respected for bars but sometimes that keeps people from seeing the full artists or you might do a record that it might be some turn-up that you actually like but I want to do Nick you can't do that this is unfamiliar for me like I'm not they don't want to see you in a certain space but you know it's the duality of artists like we got to try and do everything you know what I'm saying so
Starting point is 00:47:20 that's what your favorite artists do and if you don't allow them to grow and do that you know it kind of stunts hip hop it kind of stunts your position in a way where you can't like be progressive in this
Starting point is 00:47:32 in this thing for real so what are you doing that no what are others doing that maybe you're not doing because Kendrick is a lyricist right a Drake is a lyricist a Cole is a lyricist for sure
Starting point is 00:47:43 while they all these people have had different commercial success they're all lyricists we just saw Jade at the Roots picnic give a solilo Queer bars that everybody's talking about. Man, that's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:47:54 We just had, me and one of my friends just had this conversation. And he was like, yo, you know, the big three is like, was selfish in a way. Because when you look at all of these different artists, when you look at the Kendrick Lamar's, the Jay Coles and, you know, the Drake's, with Drake, it was Lil Wayne. With Cole, it was Jay Z. With Kendrick, it was Dr. Dre. He was like, you know, lyrically. And lyricism is like a boys club.
Starting point is 00:48:18 So if you have a certain level of talent, you have to be. be ushered in by people that we already love and respect. That kind of makes it easier to, you know, makes your music more palatable. And people open their ears a little more once somebody else brings you in. That makes a lot of sense. I get that.
Starting point is 00:48:32 That's kind of the conversation you were having sure about J-Cole and J-D, like how, I mean, he's there. He's on the label, but there are people who would say they feel like he didn't support him the way he should have, even though he's already doing well. But you kind of do need that. That goes on.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Absolutely. That goes back to 50 cent, M&M. M&M. Dr. Dre, that goes back. to that. Like, you know, I'm not sure. It's kind of a little before my time, but even what I'm thinking now,
Starting point is 00:48:56 it's like Jay Z too. Like, we love Jay forever. But when Biggie did like this, it was kind of different, kind of changed everything for it. Even before that, it was a jazz, though. I get what you saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Yeah, that's interesting. You know what I'm saying? I think that helps the artist more. You was flirting with the TDE thing at one point, though, right? Yeah, yeah, punch is my man. Punch was one of the few people that, like, I stayed close to in the business.
Starting point is 00:49:18 But he was doing this group thing. He was doing this group thing. And at the time, it wasn't just like the best thing for me in that moment. Well, he wanted you to be in one of the groups. Yeah, he wanted me to be in one of the group. What group was it? A room full of mirrors. Shout out to them, too.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Why not go? Man. I think a lot of it was ego. Me just being in a certain space in my career. And it was like I felt like I was starting from scratch again. You know, and, you know, it was a little bit of fear and ego of having to go back to doing that. I want to ask, you know, when you do see artists who might not be as lyrical as you or as nice as you, but you see they have more success, does that bother you at all? No, my race is different.
Starting point is 00:50:03 I just think my journey and my time and what I do is just different, you know. I never say what nobody deserves or what they don't deserve. I don't know what they've been through, so I can't say, you know, this person doesn't deserve this. But for me, man, I'm just, you know, I know I wave a certain flag and I just got to. stay on that. Have you ever been taking off any... I remember you saying that before, you got took off some records, right?
Starting point is 00:50:26 Like, some records from, like, some artists that feature probably could have changed a lot. Yeah, a few people. Or I was supposed to show up to a lot of different studio sessions, and it was like, don't show up. Just come tomorrow and lay your verse. And, you know, if it's like that,
Starting point is 00:50:44 I wouldn't, I don't even want to go. But don't you feel like sometimes, man, that is a part of my story, so why not tell it? Right. I do. I do, but I just feel like that causes more conflict and puts more things in my pathway to where I'm trying to get to. You know what I'm saying? You think people can really block? Nobody can block your blessing. What's for you is for you? Man, that's a great thing, but I've seen so many people like, you know, mess up a lot of different things for people that could advance people careers.
Starting point is 00:51:15 You know what I'm saying? So it's like in a weird way, yeah, nobody can block your blessings. There's a lot of sensitive gangsters out there. Yeah. Great segue. Yeah, it's a lot of them. It's a lot of them, man. And it's like, God is going to give it to you in another way, but this is one of the few things I've seen where people can kind of, you know, change your trajectory.
Starting point is 00:51:36 You know what I mean? You having a listening experience, June 5th at the Brooklyn Public Library. Why the Library? I think it's dope, but why did you choose the Brooklyn Public Library? I saw, I saw Jay Z do something there. Oh, okay. I wanted to do it. Nice.
Starting point is 00:51:52 To be honest, yeah. I saw that and I loved his, like, this whole thing he had on display with the albums and stuff. So I was like, yo, I don't want to try something like that. Unless he been to a library, Jeff. What? What thing you've been to a library? I'd be going.
Starting point is 00:52:05 So when you have the listening experience, right? Yeah. It's like, why to fuck you in a library? Just so crazy. All those. Why don't you in a library? I mean, I'm going to do. What the shit?
Starting point is 00:52:16 I just never. Who reads books anymore? Like, why are you there? This is great. This is great. But although the name of the album is smile, right, it's a lot of heavy things that you're talking about. And you don't,
Starting point is 00:52:28 you don't think it'll be very emotional. Like, how you think you, do you have, like, how you're going to get used? How are you going to get through the listening experience? Yo, this is a heavy-ass album in the library. So how, you know, how you think? Crazy, man. Yeah, I'm crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:44 You don't think you're going to cry. Cry. Cry about what? In the library? Yo, the album? Books make you cry? No. I'm not talking about like that, y'all.
Starting point is 00:52:53 You mean when he's performing some of these records. That's what I'm saying. There's a lot of the things on the album that's very heavy. It's heavy. It's a lot of shit tonight. You put a book in a book in there. Anyway, yeah. So yeah, you don't think about it like that.
Starting point is 00:53:09 It won't be very emotional night. Don't cry on the paperbacks. no I'm not gonna cry I'm not gonna cry I'm not gonna cry no my own just go with they make it funny
Starting point is 00:53:21 but it's a real it's a real question for sure it's different it's different it is different when you
Starting point is 00:53:29 when you this would be the biggest crowd that I played the album in front of so like to seeing them and living being in the moment as the music is being played
Starting point is 00:53:37 and it's like it's bittersweet in the way because that could hit somebody else like oh I lost such and such yeah I'm trying to
Starting point is 00:53:44 still get through. I'm trying to navigate grief and you know what I mean. 100%. And all of these people are here for you. So it's kind of, it's like the moment of like, right. Like damn, this is a beautiful moment, but we're talking about this. So now I'm with you. But you're not going to cry. Nah, not, no, no. There's nothing wrong with crime. Yeah. Yeah. And it's men's mental health mind. I don't know if you knew that. I don't know that. Yeah. You still talking? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:54:10 What are we doing anything? Yo, this is probably I went here when you came last time. They don't take old shit. They don't take me serious, Joe.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Just wanted to go to the library. If I had shows in Atlanta, I would come to libraries. I even wrote a book, you know, like, look. I even wrote a book, so, you know, library's cool. Library's cool. How do you feel when people
Starting point is 00:54:41 dis people on your projects? What are you talking about? I told that I told him. How do you think Dr. Lumam will cook him? He ain't heard it yet probably but boy when he's here
Starting point is 00:54:54 He's going to get me too For letting him do that I told him That shit It was embarrassed But you got to be honest though No 100% Yeah
Starting point is 00:55:03 Yeah But nah yeah Shout out to Sa'at Man Super dope lyricists That verse is crazy That verse is dope But yeah, no, he's, I told him.
Starting point is 00:55:14 What do you say? He was time about the snow bunnies? Nah, he didn't build the school yet. He ran off with the money. One thing you say on that record, though, and it's funny because back in the day, that probably would have caused problems. You said, bigger than the competition, they know who the Wallace is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:29 And it made me think of that when Kendrick said he was the king in New York line. Hmm. You know? Was that the mind frame he was in? 100%. I'm always in that mind frame. Like, once you don't stay. Once you don't get the love in a weird way,
Starting point is 00:55:43 you kind of like the bad child that acts out. And you're like, you know, not that you're screaming for attention, but it's like this is what it's about. It kind of helps with, you know, if you do have that energy. Just being competitive. But yeah, I'm always on that. I'm always on that. What is somebody like?
Starting point is 00:56:03 I was going to talk about being competitive. I mentioned Jed early. I saw the whole, it was like the tweet, then you went on the podcast, I was having a conversation about, you know, you being a better rapper than J. J.D. Is that like competitiveness or like what? Yeah, that's just... He yelled out of cap.
Starting point is 00:56:19 We y'alled our cap. So somebody had tweeted on, like, there's no better rapper than, or some lyrics or something like that than Jid, and then he responded with the Caps. And then you went to go do an interview, and they brought it up, and you doubled down on it. Yeah. You got to stand on them once you say it.
Starting point is 00:56:34 I mean... I don't think that's far-fetched, though. And I like Jid. I think Jid is super dope, but that ain't... A reach to say Nick Grant can ride better than yet. I mean, that's a competitive, that'd be a competitive, you know, battle. Yeah, nobody else thought that, too. I thought I was going to get a lot of heat for calling me a hater or something. But, nah, a lot of people agreed. What made you respond to that one?
Starting point is 00:56:57 Because you could have just left that alone. What made you say enough? She didn't even ask you. That's why I was trying to. It's like, enough. She said, enough. Everybody's playing with me. What made you?
Starting point is 00:57:07 Uh, I just wanted to do it. just wanted to do it I was just on that I just probably was upset with people just spewing certain things because it's just silly to think like there's so many people out here that can rap you got the Ruben Vincennes you got Russell
Starting point is 00:57:23 Marco Plus You got it's so many people that's rhyming Kai Cash Yeah for sure High Cash is dope Yeah it is Um yeah so many people that rap So to say that is like
Starting point is 00:57:36 It's crazy But you're supposed to think that about yourself You know what I mean? You gotta think that as an artist 100% 100% You definitely do You're at library
Starting point is 00:57:45 On stage You gotta think you to You gotta think you to hell at all the Yo What y'all got against the library Should I switch my shit? I'm not good
Starting point is 00:58:00 I see what you're doing The Book of Hole was there I love it Jesse I came out of this I'm good I would definitely come I got shows
Starting point is 00:58:07 I do comedy or whatever So I got shows But I would say I would come to the library I just wanted to know why you know Why you go in a lot of it? I never heard of a listening experience You know like you know Being in a library
Starting point is 00:58:19 I think it's smart It's studious is real It's dope Yeah Appreciate it I'm switching my shi Don't do that Don't do it
Starting point is 00:58:28 No I like it Watch you're gonna start it Watch other shit is gonna be like I need to go to the library I'm gonna sit to my shit You know But Jay already did it What?
Starting point is 00:58:37 Hove did it Yeah that's why I got it for Well, then that's even better. That's what's up, y'all. That's what's up. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Nick Grant. It's the breakfast love. Good morning.
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Starting point is 00:59:21 You can't order it, you can't borrow it or simply hope it into life. But now, there's a new and exciting way to start your journey toward a more joyful existence. Joy 101. It's a new podcast hosted by me, Hoda Kotby. Together, guys, we'll have meaningful conversations with the world's most fascinating people. Entertainment legends, sports icons, wellness experts, and everyday people will share how they find, allow, and experience joy. And I'll offer some of my own tips and takes on seeking a more balanced and harmonious life. If you're craving inspiration, support, and useful tools to maximize
Starting point is 00:59:58 your joy, tune into these candid, uplifting, and moving on-air chats. Joy after a breakup, joy as an empty nester, joy after a loss. Joy as a character. This new podcast will speak to you. Listen to Joy 101 on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Keith Gianmanca seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad, but secretly he became someone else, a master of disguise who went on a crime spree. At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea? It seemed very crazy, but I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong on what that might look like?
Starting point is 01:00:47 No, I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life? That is not the look of an innocent man. This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever
Starting point is 01:01:07 because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue. Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is, getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is, getting a new one put up in its place. As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of race in America. There's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War. To get to school, I had to go down Robert Ely Boulevard. Get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway.
Starting point is 01:01:48 If you're an historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job. I'm Akila Hughes. In Rebel Spirit, Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky State House that's actually worth the wall space. We are more than our bodies. we contain essence, we contain spirit. How do you represent that?
Starting point is 01:02:13 They are just fueling a fire that is really catching. You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Morning, everybody is DJ NVJ, Jess, Alaria, Sholomey and the guy, we are to Breakfast Club. Now, Cheryl Underwood joined us this morning, so she's going to be sitting in during...
Starting point is 01:02:35 Well, first of all, drop on a clue to mind for Cheryl Underwood. Cheryl is in New York City because she's doing the view all week and so she just decided to pull up on the breakfast club real quick before she head over there. That's right. She's going to be late. We're not going to have you late, Cheryl.
Starting point is 01:02:47 No, that's why I got the glam. Shout out to Dale McDonald putting me together. So now I just got to change my clothes. And then listen to what they talk about in the hot topics. I hope we talk about the Nix and the President Trump, Jinks and the Nix. He jinks him.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Well, right now we do a segment called The Latest with Lauren. So it's a light topic. It's a hot topic. It's got it. We already got through the Knicks and and all that stuff. So we don't go on to some other things. Let's see what you guys.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Let's play. Okay. What you want to know. The latest with Lauren La Rosa. Because you particularly are bringing the energy to mainstream radio, the black radio. That sources trust. Did you hear that exclusive?
Starting point is 01:03:20 Lauren. I'm a homeguard that knows a little bit about everything and everything. She'd be having the latest companies. You ask the question. They need to be answered. On the breakfast club. If little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you. LL.Cubey.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Talk to me. All right, y'all. So we're going to start up this hour with a congratulations. to Serena Williams. So she got back on the court. Congratulations. Yes. And in her first game back,
Starting point is 01:03:43 she won her doubles victory at the HSBC championship. She started playing it already. Yeah. I thought she just announced she was coming back like two days ago. So there was like a month ago, there was like an announcement that she was going to be coming back.
Starting point is 01:03:58 But there was like an official thing that happened, which was like the day or two before the match actually happened. Now, yeah, so she scored a decisive doubles win in her return to her return to her. a partner. She paired with Canada's Victoria and Boko. She's 19 years old in her first round of the
Starting point is 01:04:16 championship women's doubles at the Queens Club in London. Okay. I got a question. Go ahead. Do you think that the row, the diet, the injection is making her feel young? No, for real. I'm on it too. I'm on it too. I'm on it too. So good. What's she on? I'm on Zepbaum.
Starting point is 01:04:31 She owns that. What's Serena? Oh. It's like a GP1. GLP 1? Yeah. I'm on. I'm on. I'm on GLP 1 too. And I'm saying something. It makes me feel young and I'll be trying to hollum. Serena Williams lost 34 pounds
Starting point is 01:04:46 over a year using that, right? And we were having a conversation being the producers. Because one of the producers, he was like, she shouldn't be able to play because she's sick and his weight loss thing. And I'm like, but it's not like a stairway. It's not a stameroy.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Yeah. I guess because they're saying if you're lighter, like physically in your body, you can move better on the court. That was something that's the point, though. That's the same as staying fit. That's right. That's exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:07 And it does more things, but it does more things for you. I'm no longer pre-diabetic. Yes. No longer high blood pressure. Amazing. And it makes you feel that a food conversation that's in your head. You don't feel that anymore. Also, it lessens anxiety.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Like, if you anxiously eat or you anxiously shop, and it makes me want to, like, move around better. And that's why I think them youngings, then Yans be trying to hollet me. And I'd be like, for real, do you know how? They need to Google? Yeah, because I have a different swing. And I'd be like, all right, this is what you're trying to do. I think it's because they heard about that basket weave. You'd be talking about it.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Hey, listen, listen, I tell you, I'm not the prettiest, but I'm the most focused. I never want to see you here again. I never want to see you again. Honestly, I didn't know what she was doing too. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, so Serena had to talk to the fact that it has helped her cholesterol as well, too. That's right.
Starting point is 01:06:07 It does all of that. And I'm proud of her. And a lot of us need to be talking about what we're doing and how we're getting in the shape. I agree. Now, speaking of good health, Dion Sanders, we know that he was battling bladder cancer. He sat down on GMA,
Starting point is 01:06:20 and he had an announcement about being cancer-free. Let's take a listen. What are you looking forward to this upcoming season? Winning. Okay. And I'm healthy. I got my health back. I got my swagger back, thanks to the P.N.'
Starting point is 01:06:31 I got my knee back. You know, last year this time, I'm fighting cancer. Yeah. Didn't know which one was going to be. gonna go thank you for being the friend and the man of God that you are to call me and check on me and make sure I'm straight in and thank you for that. But I'm fully back. Now, last year this time, it wasn't a good look. But I'm thankful that we won, we fought the battle and we won the battle fighting cancer. And it was a tremendous and a tumultuous battle. And I'm thankful to be sitting here
Starting point is 01:06:58 right now. What a blessing. Annie got a young girl to take care of Michelle. Amen. Amen. So in love and smiley and just doing all the things. I love watching them in those blogs but yeah shout out to Dionne Sanders amen. Amen. I want to ask you to tell something. Would you like dating younger men or older men because when you dating older men you're going to have to deal with stuff like this?
Starting point is 01:07:16 I talk about it in my show. I date a young and you know but they smell like like weed and you know but I like an old man. I like an old man with a slave name. I talk about it in this show is probably going to be in the special but I will date a man who wants to date me. Age doesn't matter race doesn't matter. I prefer
Starting point is 01:07:32 a black man because I think a black man understands our struggle and I want to build with a black man. But say I'm Les Meno, you want to holl at the girl? Holl at me. Did Drewski ever get in your DMs? Did Drewski ever get in your DMs? Listen.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Not the smile. Yeah, you're blushing over there. Not a smile. Could you shot your shot at Drewski up here? No, he said. He shot his shot. He shot at first. And I was like, come on.
Starting point is 01:07:57 What you're trying to do? So he was just in New York yesterday. She said with your little cuddly self. Did that did y'all get together in real life? Mm-hmm. I made a team, I'm saying a jerseky business. But I also saw a couple of girls, Drewsie's kind of hollet.
Starting point is 01:08:12 And see, I'm not against you. Once you start making money and everybody start getting your eye line, going over there. Matter of fact, I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. Drew's, you're looking at it. Oh, God, let me hollad.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Hey, girl, come on there for you. I'm going to tag you in like wrestling. You're going to take this Drewski with me. I'm not doing this by myself. No, no. That is a husky boo. All right. That is the latest written on.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Now, Sholomey, who you give me a donkey to, man? Listen, man, five after the hour, four after the hour, we need a path to name Gwendolyn Role to come to the front of the congregation. We like to have a word with her. We got to get Cheryl out of here. We'll appreciate you. We'll see you tomorrow. Okay, we'll see you all tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:08:47 And thank y'all for having me and look forward to coming back. And you agree to the movie without reading the script because we got the script. You got to start with you, Cheryl. You got the money. Stop playing, Shal of mine. Okay, I'm the telling you and back. It's the breakfast club. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Tell us out. It's time for Donkey of the Day. There's a bunch of don't. in this street. I'll have made donkey of the day. It really caught me off guard. We live a life where we bite our tongue based off who we may offend.
Starting point is 01:09:14 We never would say anything. Salamay, give a tour. Give it to him. You are a donkey. That is why Shalemay. Some donkey todays just saw themselves. On the breakfast club. Okay, Shalame, we're giving donkey of the day to today.
Starting point is 01:09:30 You know, this is why I like us being live on Netflix. Because stuff like that happens all the time where people just be popping up, pulling up. And you don't get to see it, you know what I mean? But you got to see Cheryl Underwood this morning. She'll be joining us again tomorrow. But don't here today for Wednesday, June 10th, goes to a 59-year-old fort to a 59-year-old Fort Pierce pastor named Gwendolyn Denise Roe.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Now, Fort Pierce is in Florida. And what does your uncle Shala always say about Florida? The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida, and today is no exception. See, Gwendolyn is facing five counts of child neglect with great bodily harm after she allegedly abused five siblings she took in. The headline says, and I quote, Pastor 8, KFC and Popeyes, while her foster kids starved. Let's go to 25WPBF News for the report, please.
Starting point is 01:10:19 This is 59-year-old Gwendolyn Roll. Fort Pierce Police say she's a pastor at a local church, and up until last week, served as an unofficial foster parent for five siblings, ages four through nine, after their father left them and her care. Two of those kids are nonverbal and attend. a special need school. They were just left there for her to care for. She is not a licensed forced to care parent. This was she was doing a favor for somebody. And what ended up happening was the sequence of events with this was that she neglected their child care. According to
Starting point is 01:10:51 Roll's arrest affidavit last Tuesday, police got an anonymous tip reporting abuse and neglect at Roll's home on Booker Street. And when officers got there, they say they found the home in a deplorable state. That house has two bathrooms, one in the master. one for open use of the rest of the house. That bathroom was completely gutted. So there was no shower. There was no bathtub. There was a toilet that was completely stopped, clogged.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Authorities say Roel kept the master bathroom locked when she wasn't at home. We had reports and eyewitness information that the kids were using the bathroom in a bucket outside of the house. That was the only way they were allowed to use the bathroom. Now, if these allegations are true, let me take this time on the breakfast. of this morning to remind folks what a pastor actually is. Okay, the word pastor comes from the Latin word for shepherd. Okay, a shepherd feeds the flock. Okay, a shepherd protects the flock.
Starting point is 01:11:46 A shepherd comforts the flock. A shepherd lays down there life for the flock, okay? A shepherd does not neglect the flock, all right? And the flock would have had Popeyes. Okay, the flock would have had KFC, okay? See, somewhere along the way we've gotten confused, okay? We've made being a pastor about, you know, you know, microphones and titles and church anniversaries and the Facebook, Instagram,
Starting point is 01:12:07 live sermons, but being a pastor isn't about how loud you preach. It's about how well you serve. And Pastor Gwendolyn Denise Roe did not serve these kids well at all. Okay. Jesus said, whatever you do unto the least of these, you've done unto me.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Which means how you treat the vulnerable, you know, that is the ministry. Okay? Not the sermon. All right? Not the collection plate. Okay, not the title in front of your name. It's how you actually treat people. And if these allegations are true, denying children basic necessities, okay? You know, denying them a place to properly shower, okay, denying them chicken,
Starting point is 01:12:43 forcing them to use buckets as bathrooms and allegedly terrorizing them, abusing them. That's not ministry, that's misery, okay? Are you a shepherd or a wolf, pastor? Okay, see, I need people to understand something. God calls pastors to be servants, okay? and the first you know the church isn't just the building okay the church is actually the people to me all right the church isn't the building at all like the church is the people so if you are supposed to be ministering these kids pouring into these kids that's what you're supposed to do okay they're kids okay there are people that can't defend themselves and that's why this story hurts so much because whenever someone claiming to represent God is accused of doing the exact opposite of what God requires they don't just harm people they damage people They damage people's trust and they damage people's understanding of what love and God is supposed to look like. Okay, a pastor's job is not to impress people with scripture, but to reflect God's character.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Okay, and God's character is love and protection and compassion, service and sharing the chicken. Okay, Jesus fed 5,000 people with five loaves of bread and two fish. You could have fed five kids with a $10 big a box. There is a way. If you can't care for the most vulnerable among us, then you have no business calling yourself a shepherd of God's people. Please let Remi Ma give Pastor Gwendolyn Roll the biggest he-ha, please. He-ha, he-ha! You stupid, motherfucker-a. You dumb. I don't know what people be thinking, man.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Yeah. I really don't know. Like, what? I don't even get it. Gwendolyn. And she was a pastor. You want to see her? I do want to see her, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Let me show you a picture. Crazy. Gwendolyn, man. Because the name is definitely Blackneck. Yeah, down south, civil rights. You want to play a game? Yes. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay, let's play a game of guess what race is. All right, give me my clues. I don't want to do it. Come on, do it. I don't want to do it. No, Ed. Pastor Gwendolyn Denise Roe, 59 years old of Fort Peace, Florida,
Starting point is 01:14:51 was accused of abusing five siblings that she took in, wouldn't share Popeyes and KFC with him. Guess what? Right. You want me to go first? You want me to go first? Go ahead to DJNV. Black!
Starting point is 01:15:05 Damn. Pop-I's. I ain't need to ask you with no details, okay? I ain't need to ask you why you thought that. I just asked you, okay. Did I ask you that? Jesus Christ. Jessica Robin Moore.
Starting point is 01:15:19 What? A 59-year-old woman named Gwendolyn Denise Roll of Fort Pierce, Florida. She was a pastor. She was accused of abusing five siblings that she took in and wouldn't share her KFC and Popeye's with him. Eight in front of them. why they stalled. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Yes, what race she is. She's black. KFC and Papas? Yeah, because you're the daughter of a pastor. Yes, absolutely. Not a pastor, a deaconess. A deacon, I'm sorry. Because it's KFC and Popeyes.
Starting point is 01:15:48 She didn't want to share it. Her name is Gwendolyn Denise Roe. Honey. That's a white Gwendolyn. She's a woman. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, I'm sorry. She is Gwendolyn Denise Role.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Well, that's Civil Rights. DJ Envy. Yes. Super rights black. Just hilarious. Yes. Both you are absolutely correct. Gwendolyn Denise.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Wow. Civil rights. Wow. Yes. Roots. Now, I don't see civil rights, but I definitely see the struggle. She might not know we free. No, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:16:21 She definitely don't look free. She might not know we free. She's holding the chicken. She might not know we free. No, she, I got my chicken now. You's going to hit the fin for yourself, Cher. This is. That is.
Starting point is 01:16:34 That is. That is. That is funny, man. She do look like she may not know we free now. She don't look free. She know we free now. She don't even look free. It ain't know anything.
Starting point is 01:16:48 This got to last a week. Oh, my goodness. I hate this show. I hate this show. I hate this show. I hate it. All right. Thank you for that dog here today.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Lord, have mercy. Now, when we come back, Destiny Spurlock will be joining us. She is the first black woman in NASCAR. cars. So we're going to talk to her next. Don't go anywhere. We go from that to this. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess O'Larious. Shalameen de God. We are the breakfast club.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Lawn Laugh is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. Destiny Spurlock. Welcome. Welcome to be here. How are you feeling this morning? I feel good. It's not too early, so we feel good. You don't got to throw up? No. Why would I have to throw up?
Starting point is 01:17:31 Why would you have to throw up? Because I was reading this article where you were about to do your debut, your race, and you turned and was like, I think I'm about to throw up. That's hilarious, because I was so nervous. Like, that was my debut, right? And I've worked so hard to get to this point. So it's like, I'm here finally.
Starting point is 01:17:46 And it's like, okay, nervous. But once I get in the car, I'm good. I thought she was trying to tell everybody he was pregnant. I'm like, damn, Lord. No, you're not good. No, it's because her coach, Phil Horton, he was saying how, like, that moment showed him how special you were because you're so accomplished,
Starting point is 01:18:00 but you're still nervous in the moment. Absolutely. Well, for people that don't know, she was the first black woman to race in NASCAR. Motorsports racer. And how did you get into racing and your love of cars? It's my parents' fault. I'm going to say at one.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Before I could even walk, they got me a Barbie Jeep. So I was like, okay, this is cool. I turned three. I got on the back of the motorcycle with them. And I'm like, yeah, I think I'm going to do something like this. My grandfather is the one who introduced me into NASCAR at like an early age, 6, 12, somewhere up in there. And I was like, I want to race. Didn't think it's really going to happen.
Starting point is 01:18:32 Fast forward. I started drag racing motorcycles because of my godfather. and then I was like okay we can really take this to the next level all these opportunities came for me to be able to race in NASCAR but they all failed but now we're here so it's amazing that was a fast story I know it took longer than that but that was like that so let's talk about some of the pitfalls that you had to go through one being black two being a woman so break those there
Starting point is 01:18:56 yes so as you know like you said it's so many things that you can say I have against me because so superpowers really they are I love that to be able to get into NASCAR, you kind of have to be born into it or you have to have a lot of money. So I didn't have either though. So I literally had to figure this out as I'm going.
Starting point is 01:19:14 You know, I've had teams that said, hey, come on, let's do it. And then things fall through. But I'm just glad I never gave up because I promised you it was times where I'm like, forget it. But I kept going, so that shows my perseverance. Being the first is always celebrated, but does it ever feel like extra pressure?
Starting point is 01:19:30 No, I love that. Everybody asked me that. Do I feel pressure? I don't. Because being the first was never my focused. It was me doing something that I love. I just happened to be the first and had a great team with me to make it happen. Did you ever look up to anybody in the NASCO world, motorsport world, anything like that? So when I was little, Dale Earnhardt was my go-to because that was my poppy's favorite, you know, and then I love the DuPont car that, um, what's his name, Jeff Gordon was in because it was colorful. So I'm a kid. So I'm like, yeah, I'm going to do that.
Starting point is 01:20:01 But yeah, that's really it growing up. Yeah. You feel like people talk down to you or feel Like you don't know the business as well, especially being in race car? Does that happen a lot? All the time. And I think they look at it because I'm new in this space, but I've been in the motorsports industry for over 17 years. And the first thing that someone ever told me when I first got into the space was learn the business and know the business before you get into it.
Starting point is 01:20:25 So I know both sides. And you were a truck driver. Yes. I still got my CDO. Yeah. That's right, girl. Used to drive the big joints? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:33 A KW, which is a camera. and a Peterbilt. So, yeah, I actually was a flight attendant before that. Stop being a flight attendant because I'm like, I can't race. So, but it's good money. Then I got my CDL so I can do both. Lauren was a flight attendant.
Starting point is 01:20:47 I was with Delta Airlines. I was with Delta II. How long were you there? I was there for three years. Oh, no, I was only there for like nine months. Really? Yeah. But y'all don't have a sign like a Delta sign?
Starting point is 01:20:57 No, no. But you instantly feel that because that Delta trained in them eight weeks. How long were eight or ten weeks? No, we were six weeks. Six weeks. How many planes did you learn? All of them and we had to know. It was like, at that point it was like 12.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Okay, I think we did eight to start. I think we only did eight. What that mean? You have to learn all the different sizes of planes. There's different exits and it's a whole thing. It's the whole thing. And if you feel. I know you annoying on the plane then.
Starting point is 01:21:19 Both of y'all, bro. Who? I don't really be chilling because it's like you know, you kind of know the thing. So you just kind of like watching here and there. You just like, all right. If you feel safe, you just, you chill. Literally. You've been doing this over 17.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Well, you said about 17 years. is right. Craziest injury. None. Crazy. Thank God. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Well, thank God for sure. Not even on the bike. I mean, so when I first started race, I did flip the bike, but then I got back up, they're like, man, we need to check you out. I'm like, I'm good, but is my bike okay? Because I want to keep going, and the bike was fine. I was good. That was a race or just, it was in a race.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Wow. Yeah. Damn. I know. You talked about being a truck driver, a flight attendant, now NASCAR. Which version of yourself are you most proud of? This one? because when I look back over all the times I should have quit
Starting point is 01:22:08 and all the things that I had to overcome and the things I went through to look back now and to see that I really made it and this is just the beginning. I'm so proud of myself now. Seriously. Why do you think it's taking so long for black women be present in the space that you're in?
Starting point is 01:22:24 One, it takes a lot of money. So to be able to obtain the sponsorships, to be able to get the people that truly believe in you, because you have a lot of people that's like, yeah, we think you can do it, but we got to see it first. So that's first and foremost, the money and having a team that understands your vision and they believe in you and push that forward so that other people can see it too.
Starting point is 01:22:45 You know what? I realized, you know, because I sponsored Roger Carouse car in the Darlington race, there is a lot of black people behind the scenes at NASCAR. I would have never thought that if I hadn't seen it for myself. Yeah. And that's changed over the years because, you know, years ago you never really saw that. But thankfully, we have more. more people that look like us on the track and off the track.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Because some people, they look at us and look at people like myself and Roger, and they're like, I want to be a racer, but I really don't. But then we're able to show them that there are other outlets in the space that they can do as well. Do you think motorsports has done enough to create access? I don't think so. They're getting to that point now, especially with all the things that they're doing with the pit crew members and showing them as who they are and that they are an individual, too, so we're getting there.
Starting point is 01:23:35 So are we celebrating exceptions? Are we actually building real opportunities? I think we're definitely building real opportunities. Especially for myself, I feel like me being a woman that shows those other little girls and boys that, hey, like, if she can do it, I can do it too and do it effortlessly and unapolitetically. How personal does it get? You know, because sometimes I'm watching these races and I'm saying people cut each other
Starting point is 01:23:59 off, they tap in the back of the car. And I'm like, after the race, you just feel like, I want five minutes. Like, how personal does it get? Oh, it gets personal. What do you see on TV when they're in your face? Oh, no, that's very much real. I don't do any of that because I don't got time for it. I'm focused on my racing, but, oh, yeah, people be ready to fight for real.
Starting point is 01:24:16 What would you say is the most challenging part of the race, like the physical part or the mental part? I would say the mental. Because you have to think we're in this car for two plus hours. You have to make sure you're constantly hitting your lines, meaning racing where you're supposed to, each line. lap around the track. You also have to worry
Starting point is 01:24:36 about the people around you. You have to worry about tire maintenance, making sure you're not wearing your tires out. It's so many aspects. You have to think of all that and continue to race and stay focused. And then y'all don't even get the pee.
Starting point is 01:24:49 No. Listen, so people, they were like, what you got to do when you got to pee? You better hold it. But some people wear the pins too. I know that's right. Yeah, I'm not, but yeah. When did you realize you wanted to start
Starting point is 01:25:00 navigating male-dominated spaces? Did I read somewhere that you used to play organized football, tackle football in Middalen High School? Yes, I did. Damn, I know that's like. It's funny because it's like I never looked at it as being a male-dominated thing. I just knew it was something I wanted to do, so I did it. So once I got into these faces, they're like, you're a girl, you're not supposed to do this. Like, this is a boy sport.
Starting point is 01:25:21 And I'm like, maybe to y'all, but to me, this is something I love. So I never looked at it any different. What was it did you play? Corner and Safety. Wow. They used to, like, they didn't give you no slack. No, they didn't. I love the fact that your parents put you in it and push you to do that.
Starting point is 01:25:35 That's the amazing thing because most parents are like, no, you don't play that. That's boys for it. But the fact that they push you to do that, that means everything. My family's been super supportive. No matter what I want to do, they've always said, destiny, if it's something you want to do, do it. Did you get playtime though? Yeah, I did. I did.
Starting point is 01:25:47 I did. I did. Tell me to tell somebody laid you out. Oh, in practice. This was after we made the team. You know, we have two days. Went out there that morning. I definitely got my bell wrong.
Starting point is 01:26:00 I definitely got a concussion. But I got back up and, you know, And what does daddy say during that time? When he see you on the floor knocked out and you're looking at stars? So I didn't lay there. I got up and then I started seeing the stars so they didn't know at the time.
Starting point is 01:26:15 But, I mean, they know I'm tough. I'm rugged. I'm a girly girl, but I'm rugged. What made you want to do that, though? Like, you just saw it and like, I want to play football. I love football. So my dad's a huge Cowboys fan. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:26:26 Let's go! Oh, my goodness. You got family members that went there. Howard. You got, oh. Oh my God. Let's go. So we just grew up watching football all the time and they had trials. So I was like, I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Yes, I'm from Virginia. Richmond, Virginia, too. We didn't have the Panthers when I was coming. I was born in 1978. So my daddy was a Cowboys fan as well. That's how you become a Cowboys fan down south. Yeah, literally. I don't know how he started that.
Starting point is 01:26:50 And the lifestyle. The whole cocaine, the women. No, I'm saying back in the day. Oh, wow. Wait, what? Our daddy had lies. Crazy. What is the love like when you back at home, Richmond?
Starting point is 01:27:04 I know it's a small city, but it's like, I know. Yeah, and what you have accomplished is so big being the first black woman. Yes. And NASCAR. It's so cool because a lot of them, they've seen me go up through the ranks. They've seen me race motorcycles. They've seen me race arena cars. So now that I'm actually here and I grew up two miles from the racetrack, they love it.
Starting point is 01:27:22 Every time I come, they're like, let us know, we're going to do something. So the little kids are like, like, I love a baby. You're such an inspiration to them. Yes. And I've done so much in the community too before I even got to this point. So now that I'm here, I've really got to give back like I wanted. What would you tell young girls? I was talking a lot a couple days ago. She was drag racing as a kid. What do you tell young girls that want to get into it? How do they get into it? What do they need to do? How do they practice? How do they jump into it? So for what I did and what I would give to them is go to your local drag strip, wherever it is that you want to, you know, race at. you can get a car, a junior
Starting point is 01:27:59 dragster, because that's what Lado did, for like five grand, and just find somebody, a team, or someone that you trust to go out there with you and just show you all the ranks, but I love that you ask that because I have a foundation called What's Your Destiny Foundation, and is to help kids get into motorsports
Starting point is 01:28:15 on, and I want to teach some things on and off the track. So, like you said, creating these opportunities. That's what it's all about. How can they get more information about that? So it's on my website, destiny's furlock.com, but yeah that is so cool
Starting point is 01:28:29 thank you we'll do the all your pictures not all of them but a lot of pictures on your Instagram you have the stars and your interviews
Starting point is 01:28:35 I've watched what is the significance of the stars under your eyes so we cannot wear jewelry why not in drag races so I also
Starting point is 01:28:41 drag race in NHRA too and the first time they told me that I was like ew I feel naked I need something that's pretty so I found my stars
Starting point is 01:28:50 but the stars are also from Avatar I love Avatar so I'm like brings the little the teary out in me. But yeah. You ever feel like an avatar when you driving your car?
Starting point is 01:29:00 All the time, yes. You have to find something inner that's bigger than you that's going to bring you through for sure. Now when you ride regular on the road, are you still like, I gotta get to where I gotta get or you're like, no, I'm coming. Especially when you're in traffic. We gotta get to where we gotta go. But we, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:16 we go to speed living. So you're a medial strip type girl. No, no. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. No, no, no. I think a meteor strip real quick. No, no, no, no. I mean, I got to keep my license. And people must pull up you all the time when they see you in the car, especially back home. So I don't, I don't, I don't live in Virginia anymore.
Starting point is 01:29:32 I'm in North Carolina now. So I'm kind of, so they know you there. So when they pull up to you at a light and they see you, they want to race you all the time. No, they don't. No, no. I'll be chilling. I have my hat on my hoodie, like. I wrote incognito. Yeah. I have no idea why regular cars go up to 100 plus miles per hour. I know, right? We're never able to go up to that speed. But the speed limit is 55 in most places. So why does it make cars that can go over to because. Well, if you go Midwest and. Well, if you go Midwest and stuff. You can go, what, 75, 80 out there, but you can also go to the racetrack. Well, I think it should be based on, you take your regular car to the race track?
Starting point is 01:30:04 Yes. They have track days. So I can take a Honda to the race track? You can. People do it. The one in Dover. Yes. Wow. Most people ain't doing that. A lot of people do, though. For the people that want to, I guess. Yeah. When is your next race so people can follow you? Okay. So next race is this Friday, which we will have the Juneteenth livery thanks to Foxteca. Okay. So, yes, that's going to be a polka now. And then I, I, you know, and then I, I have another race coming up, which I want to make a great announcement about.
Starting point is 01:30:30 Okay. Oh, you want me doing now? So on July 24, thank you so much to Ms. Emily Tish Sussman. She is also the co-owner of Gotham F.C. and the New York Giants. So she has a podcast called She Pivots Podcast, and she is coming along with me on this journey because she believes in me, and she's going to sponsor my race in Indianapolis Raceway Park. Dope. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Congratulations. The worst. I'm a Golan FC. Absolutely. The Giants, of course. Your car already designed? Yes. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:31:01 You didn't get a picture? Yes. Yes. I want to see. Let me see. Who's put my phone? Just give me my phone. Give my phone.
Starting point is 01:31:06 And is it you, like you, this is all your creative control. So it's my team. Okay. Yes, y'all going to love it. Yeah. And then, so I'm really big into my ancestors because, listen, they didn't get these chances that I have. So I always say I'm my ancestors wildest dreams come true. And we got that on the car.
Starting point is 01:31:24 So I'm really excited. Wow, I got to see. I got to see. Oh, wow, that's beautiful. Which one is that? Okay. It's fire. You do a lot of colors.
Starting point is 01:31:36 I saw another picture of a car you did before in the end. Numbers were like pink or something. Oh, so, yeah, that was my avatar. That was when I did my truck debut. Yeah, you do a lot of like color. This is dope. That's the same one. That's the same one.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Yeah, same one. What's the answer to board? So colorful, vibrant. Yeah, that's fire. You know what she comes down at Lane, Shorty. That's what's tough. I love it. I'm not going for it. That was one of my favorite things to do sponsoring Rogers car. I'm going. I like going to NASCAR period. That was my first time going. Yeah. But I'm like, I can see why people like enjoy this.
Starting point is 01:32:06 When I was young, my dad used to take me to the racetrack to Cooper River Dragway in South Carolina. But that in Darlinton was different. Yeah. Yeah. Way different. We got to get y'all out to some races too. Absolutely. If I was out, if I was say, I would go to one in Poconos. It's close. It's very close. But that's your, that's the weekend of your car show. July 20. July 25th is my car show. Yeah. Oh, her is July 24. You know, I went to Hampton, so I'm always in Hampton in Norfolk and touch Richmond
Starting point is 01:32:31 every once in a while. I definitely got to come to one of your car shows because I've been seeing it on my feet. Please, but one day when you're not racing, we would love to get one of your cars. He's Dominican, but still. I am not doing. He does a lot of black people events.
Starting point is 01:32:45 He does, he went outside. I got one more question. Destiny, when you're 80 years old and you're looking back, what do you hope people say destiny is for a lot? changed the face of motorsports because when I grew up in motor sports you didn't see
Starting point is 01:33:01 a lot of people that looked like me maybe you did in drag racing but definitely not in NASCAR spaces so yeah that's what I want the mistake tell them how to follow you follow me on DESE Sperlock everything except Facebook that's Desi Sperluck official and it's D-Y not D-E
Starting point is 01:33:17 there we go it's D-Y-S-T-A-N-Y Sperlok well it's D-J-MV little Kelle Charlemaine Norm Rosa Well, that was violent for no reason, and I don't condone that. Destiny's Burlach. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you.
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Starting point is 01:37:27 Talk to me. Okay, apply a lip low. Oh, shut up. All right. We talked about this earlier in the first latest. Stephen A. Smith and Donald Trump. Now, the back and forth ensued
Starting point is 01:37:39 because Stephen A. Smith said that Donald Trump was the reason that the Knicks would lose. All right? Now, Donald Trump has posted on true social in response to Stephen A. Smith's response that we played earlier. He says Stephen A. Smith is an arrogant full, a low IQ individual. In other words, he's dumb as a rock and totally
Starting point is 01:37:56 unqualified to ever think of running for a high political office or even low political office for that matter. He'd get annihilated in a debate by the most incompetent of politicians. Joe Biden's now, fabled performance would look great by comparison to anything that this loud mouth huckster has to offer, which isn't much. Within a few weeks, they laugh him out of politics. I won't say, we got to stop saying Donald Trump is the reason of the Knicks lost. Donald Trump is not the reason the Knicks lost, but what Trump did cause the city to lose that night was joy and money, but also, God damn, why does Huxter sound racist coming from him?
Starting point is 01:38:29 Yeah, that's crazy. When I read it, I was like, I hope Eddie don't text me or I wasn't allowed to say that. But they did say that it just felt dead in there. They said, because they said, when you steal the joy. They said it just felt dead. It was like a dark vibe.
Starting point is 01:38:42 That's why I say Donald J. Trump and the J. Stans for Joy Killer. He took all the joy out the city. It was such an inconvenience that it took the fun out of the night. And he caused a lot of people to lose money because they couldn't have the watch party. You know all them surrounding areas, then restaurants and bars,
Starting point is 01:38:54 they make so much money often people? Yeah, well, you wanted to, you know what a huckster is? No. Is it like a... What is there? It's a person who sells or advertise something
Starting point is 01:39:02 in an aggressive, dishonest, are overly pushy way. Oh. That is a great word to use for Stephen A. I've never even heard that. Because a lot of people
Starting point is 01:39:11 that's what they say about Stephen A but that's the actual definition a huckster. Like, the fact Donald knew that word is kind of impressive. Somebody wrote that for it. He might have made AI. He might have put it through chat,
Starting point is 01:39:20 Well, earlier we played some Stephen A audio from first take, but he also did a straight shooter with Stephen A Smith and he responded to Trump. So let's take a listen to Stephen A inviting Trump to a debate on straight shooter. I've been trying to get with you for a year to ask you some of these questions. If you felt so compelled to test my IQ and you wanted debate against me personally about the job you've done, I'm open to it. Are you? We can do that. I got a challenge for you, Mr. President, because according to you, you could pull off anything. You haven't ruled out circumventing the 22nd Amendment of the Constitution to run for a third term. If you can pull that off, why don't you pull off me getting on the debate stage with you, with Democrats, with other Republicans, without having to surrender my job?
Starting point is 01:40:04 You've clearly got connections with the FCC commission. See, what I'm not going to do, ladies and gentlemen, is get into a tip for tap with the president calling him names and all of this other stuff. Because the reality of the situation is, although I have a problem with him as the president and I didn't. vote for him. He's never been unkind to me. And as nice as he says I am is as nice as he was to me. Nah, Stephen Ney, you got to go hard on Donald Trump. You got to go on hard as Trump as you did on LeBron, but you got to do it with even less love because he called you an arrogant fool. We called you a low
Starting point is 01:40:39 IQ individual. He said you're dumb as a rock. Yeah, that's great. So you can't be out here. He called him a huckster. They call him a huckster. You can't be out here giving him all of this respect. And Kay, he's not respecting you because I've seen you go to hell on people for less. But maybe he's just trying to get in the room with him. Maybe he's trying to be like, you know, let me prove to you that I'm not a dumb huckster. But Trump has no reason to do that other than, you know,
Starting point is 01:41:03 Eagle. Like, why would he be debating Stephen Nade? Stephen Nes not an elected official? Yes. And Trump is already the president. What are you debating? Yeah, like, why would I debate you? And it makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:41:12 That's just straight theater. Like, why? Yeah. Why? I don't know. He's been trying to get with him for a year. To do what? I'm already president.
Starting point is 01:41:19 I just think Stephen A got to give them a classic Stephen A, right? Like you can't, like I said, you've seen them go harder on people for less. Yeah. Okay. Well, you mentioned LeBron, speaking of as we shift gears. So Time dropped their 100 most influential people in sports of 2026 list. And on the cover of the Time magazine, they have LeBron James, and they list him as the greatest athlete of the century.
Starting point is 01:41:42 A hundred years. That makes no sense. Now, on this list, there's LeBron James. Aja Wilson is on the list. Don Staley is on the list Caitlin Clark is on the list Michael Jordan and Denny Hamlin are on the list Mike Rubin is on the list
Starting point is 01:41:56 Steph Curry Yeah so Mike Rubin is Not everyone don't play no goddamn sports It's people that have It's people that have done things Within sports too So he's listed as an innovator He has built one of the most powerful sports
Starting point is 01:42:08 Commerce Empire is ever assembled Yeah So is this Dana White Is this people of The Sports World? Or you said LeBron is the greatest of the century? So when it comes to... If he's part of it, I agree with.
Starting point is 01:42:22 So the greatest of the century. There are no other, there aren't older athletes listed in this whole, like, century conversation. It's weird because on the cover, he's listed as athlete of a century. In the caption, they talk about quarter century or half century. And then in the article, they have the century conversation, too. But it's really just highlighting this list. That's not like 2026 to me.
Starting point is 01:42:43 I mean, don't get me wrong. Don Stanley definitely could be on that list. But the last... The last hundred years is... After the last 100 years, it's definitely Michael Jordan. When you're talking about athlete and influence. It's not definitely Michael Joy. Who has more influences?
Starting point is 01:42:54 Mohamed Al-Lee? And is this the whole- Okay. Throughout the whole hundred years? It's the whole hundred years. It's the whole hundred years. Muhammad-A. I don't think, I don't think of Michael Jordan.
Starting point is 01:43:04 I don't think of a Michael Jordan. I was wondering what we're talking about just like NBA, NFL. Like, are we talking about sports? All sports. And not over Michael Jordan. Well, what about Bruce Jenna? Because remember back in the day, didn't he win, like, man of the year for being athlete?
Starting point is 01:43:17 Shut up. Muhammad Ali, not only was one of the greatest heavyweight boxes of all times. He was. He used his platform for global social change. Activist. I guess that's a different ball game, guys. But when you talk about influence, you could talk about positive influence or just influence in general. Michael Jordan is the best basketball player ever.
Starting point is 01:43:36 He's the goat. There's nobody better than him. Michael Jordan is influenced by Muhammad Ali. But his shoes continue to push this culture to another level that kids still wait on line for his shoes. and he still pushes people. So when you talk about influence, yes. You don't know what they get into. I do.
Starting point is 01:43:52 I do. But when you talk about influence over the 100 years in the culture, I don't think nobody influenced more culture and anything in sports more than Michael Jones. What about Hussein bolts? They have a Hussein boat. You sang. What terrorists did you just announce on the radio?
Starting point is 01:44:08 Who is Hussein boat? Okay. All right. You're saying. Sorry. Well, they bring up the goat conversation. and LeBron says, when he's talking about Michael Jordan, Kobe, LeBron, LeBron says, I'm not taking nobody over me.
Starting point is 01:44:20 There's no question, but I think Mike will say the same thing. Rest his soul, Kobe will say the same thing. Magic will say the same thing. Bird will say the same thing. Shack could say the same thing. The late great woke, Kareem, yeah, the late great woke Kareem, I don't think none of us are going to take somebody else. There's a general manager, and he's eyeballing all of us in the baseline.
Starting point is 01:44:40 With the number one pick, it's going to be hard not to take me champ. Michael Jordan doesn't even entertain those type of conversations. Yeah, we have that audio of him talking about not to entertaining it. Can we take a listen? The whole goat term is never going to be something that I ever will get high or low about. I never played against Oscar Robert or Jerry West. Would have loved to. Just as a competitor as I am.
Starting point is 01:45:01 And I actually learned from them. And we paved the road to the Kobe's and the LeBahn's, right? It's the beauty of the game of basketball that a player after a previous player has evolved the game. for don't then now use that against the player that actually taught you the game or that you learn from you know look i would love that played against lebron and you know coby and my prime you know i would love to have played you know against those guys but we'll never be able to know that and you can't really have that conversation right like you can it's hard to have it in basketball but it's it's even harder when you say it's all athletes right because you can talk about a michael jordan
Starting point is 01:45:38 Michael Jordan definitely, you know, revolutionized sports marketing and branding, right? But Muhammad Ali had a greater impact on global culture, civil rights, politics. I guess it's not even the same conversation. Yeah, and I think even LeBron in this article, he says if you ask people about influence and most influential or more influential,
Starting point is 01:45:58 people are going to point to Jordan even over him, even though he's saying he would take himself when it comes to certain conversations. So it is a hard one to have, but they tried to have it and here we are. Top athlete of the whole century 100. years. That's a lot, guys. Yeah, I don't, I don't think. I know one or two things.
Starting point is 01:46:12 I know it ain't LeBron. In my opinion. What about Ellen? He's in the conversation, though. He's one of them, but he's not D. He's not D. I don't even know if you could put a V. I don't know if there's one. That's a hundred years. They don't have a hundred years. They don't have a hundred years. They don't know what you just said. You said it. I don't know if you put a VAT. There's no D. There's just one. I thought you said D. Athlete of the
Starting point is 01:46:31 century. Yeah, athlete of the century. Oh, it was no D. Athlete of the century. LeBron James. Yes. All right. We're wrapping up, y'all. That's the latest for the Al-O-W.
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