The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Lil Jon Reveals Heartbreaking Final Text Exchange With His Son Before His Passing + Ben Affleck & Kerry Washington & Devi Brown Interview 

Episode Date: October 9, 2026

Today on The Breakfast Club, Kerry Washington & Ben Affleck Talk ‘Animals,’ Chemistry Bonding For Character Roles, Diverse Storytelling, Consolidation In Hollywood. Plus, it’s Fr...iday, so we opened the phone lines for callers to give the People’s Donkey. Listen for more. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Lisa, tell them about our new show. We have a new podcast. It's called Don't Lie to Me. I'm Lexi Youanu. We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart.
Starting point is 00:00:14 And I'm Lisa Di Giulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions, and at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. Now in my 30s, being the founder of new shoes, good taste is my business. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, this is Kylie Breakman.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Angel Geratana. Jeremy Colhain. Patrick McDonald. And we're the hosts of the Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists Podcast. The Improvised Character Comedy Podcast where each week a new panel of artists discuss their craft. Join us for a panel of Eurovision participants. And we do a little Halloween sometimes. Does the Pope dress up?
Starting point is 00:00:56 He winks on Halloween. He gets right up next to the microphone. I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other. You never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween. Listen to Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists every Thursday on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Lacey Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creator, and host of Scam Goddess Podcast. The True Crime Comedy Podcasts all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Each week, I bring on an amazing guest.
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Starting point is 00:01:47 And I'm Martin. And we're the host of Out of Character. The funniest podcast in the entire world. I like that. It's a good way to promote ourselves. We are two funny guys having fun enjoying ourselves. and we just know how to have fun, unlike anyone else. If you guys like fun conversations, hot takes, what else?
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Starting point is 00:02:31 Jess, hilarious. What's that ass up? Sholamine the God. Peace to the planet, it's Friday. How y'all feel out there? I feel black and highly favored. Happy to be here. Another day to serve our beautiful listeners.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Good morning. Good morning. Yes, it's Friday. How you feeling, Jess? I feel good. I had a great night sleep last night. It's cool. Did some writing.
Starting point is 00:02:51 I'm good. It feels good on this Friday. You had a good night's sleep, too. I went to bed at halftime at the game. Okay. I was just like, you know what? We suck. So I went to sleep.
Starting point is 00:03:00 As long as you know, as long as you know. Now, Jess, you asked me yesterday if I went to Hong Kong, if I was in Hong Kong. She did not ask you that. She asked you what you did yesterday, and you told her you went to Hong Kong. No, no, I didn't. She asked me if I was in Macau. Yesterday I was like, we're part of China you, and you were in Hong Kong? She asked if I was in Hong Kong, yes.
Starting point is 00:03:15 So I said I told you I was in Macau. But today I went to Hong Kong. So I went over to Hong Kong, which is a 40-minute. They have a ferry. It's called a turbojet ferry. It gets, goes 60 to 70 miles, miles an hour. We got there in about 45 minutes to an hour, and I got to experience Hong Kong, which is like the Times Square of Manhattan of China. So they have an area called Times Square where they have all the shops, all the lights.
Starting point is 00:03:41 They got beautiful architecture, which I'm going to set up post pictures in a little bit. It's this place called a peak where it's super duper high, and you can actually see the whole China, well, parts of China, majority of China. I was going to see. You can see the whole damn country in me? Yeah, well, not the whole country, but parts of the country and majority of it. It just looks so beautiful. So that's what I was. And then after the day is the first game, the Houston Rockets take on the Dallas Maverick.
Starting point is 00:04:03 So I'll be watching the game in a little bit. So that's about it. So like I said, it's 6 p.m. here. So I'm excited. I can't wait to you back home. I miss my family and my kids. Yes. 12 hours forward or 12 hours behind?
Starting point is 00:04:14 12 hours in front. So are you in yesterday? Oh, in front. Okay. So you're in tomorrow. No, not yet. It's 6 p.m. He's in today.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I'm in today. Oh, all right. Oh, that Baltimore school system just be showing up in the most in-opportune times. Yo, relax. I was just trying to figure it out. Lord Her mercy. Today on this show, Kerry Washington and Ben Affleck will be joining us. They have a new film, Animals out today on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Yeah, man. Carrie and Ben star in animals, as you just said. Yeah, interesting conversation. I like when you sit down and you talk to stars who actually got something to say. And, you know, Carrie always got something to say. I never spoke to Ben. That was the first time. But he had something to say, too, David.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And your sister will be joining us as well, right? A good sister, Debbie Brown, because tomorrow is the sixth annual mental wealth expert. Bo! Out time. In Newark, New Jersey, it's Joelle and Diane Bloom Wellness and the event center from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Starting point is 00:05:03 It is free and open to all ages. And Debbie Brown, who is the host of the Deeply Well podcast and the curator of the event, we'll be here to talk to us about it today. That's right. All right. Well, let's get the show cracking.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Of course, front page news is next. Get it off your chest. 800-585-105. 105.1. Trave, you're okay? Trabb, you all right? Now, you know, you know, you're going to be calling up here in a minute. I just want to make sure Travis is okay.
Starting point is 00:05:25 I don't play with him. Yeah. It's stupid for you to talk like this because you're a New York Giants fan. Like anything can happen to y'all this weekend as well. But this weekend we're still number one in the division. That's all that matters. Right now, we're still number eight. But right now, Friday, we are number one in the division.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I think you need to be humble. You should just be humble and relax. It only makes it worse and you know you can't handle it, okay? No, I can't. You can't handle it when people get on you. So just relax. That's my team. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:05:52 You're a little sensitive today. You're all right? Cowboys lost you okay? No, I don't care, actually. I'm used to it. Let's get the show cracking. This is Gunner. It's a world premiere.
Starting point is 00:06:00 It's called Poppet. And it's weekends with us a weekends. And it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess Harrious. Salomey, the guy.
Starting point is 00:06:08 We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Start off with sports. Last night, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers squash killed. Destroyed the Dallas Cowboys last night. They did. We did. Four to 16.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Our defense sucks. We suck. Our offense sucks. We just, we suck. You still think you're going to the bowl? Yes. What bowl? Crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I mean, we're only two and three. Anything that happened still. Okay. All right. And also, we got to congratulate Asia Wilson. Come on now. She was named the WNBA MVP for the fifth time. Man,
Starting point is 00:06:39 drop one of the food bombs for Asia Wilson, okay? South Carolina's own five-time MVP. Do you know how rare that air is? Okay? By far the greatest women's basketball player of all time. Go debate with your mama. I ain't got time to argue with you. And also, the Liberty plays the Atlanta Dream and the Vegas Aces
Starting point is 00:06:56 takes on the Falcharies at 9.30. The Los Vegas, what did you say? You know, so crazy, when you go to, when you just type in Asia Wilson on Google, five MVP trophies just pop up on the screen. You know, like when you go there for like holidays and stuff, when you just put her name in the day, five MVP trophies just pop up and floating across the screen. That is dope. What's up, Mimi?
Starting point is 00:07:13 Good morning, Mee, Sharr. Jessica, how y'all doing? Hey, girl. Fies, Mimi Brown. Good morning. So we start this hour with President Trump approving the execution of the former major behind the deadliest mass shooting. on a U.S. military base. Nadal Hassan was convicted of killing 13 people and injuring
Starting point is 00:07:31 more than 30 others at Fort Hood, Texas back in 2009. Now 17 years later, the Pentagon is preparing to carry out his death sentence. Here is Defense Secretary Pete Hexed. Let's listen. No-brainer. Execution by firing squad. Army Major betrays this country. Radical Islamist kills a bunch of Americans at Fort Hood. Of course we're going to do it at Fort Hood. going to do it on a Thursday. We're going to do it at 1 o'clock, which is when he did it. And it's going to be soldiers with rifles executing the firing squad. We know what it is. It was a radical Islamist attack in uniform inside the ranks. And so he's going to get a firing squad of soldiers, as it should be.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And we'll make sure that people are able to watch it, that it's public, because people need to understand that this is a serious consequence for these types of things. What makes them think people want to see that? I mean, do you get to death sentence? He gets to death in us. But do you have to freaking publicly broadcast it? I don't want to see it. I'm sure there's some people that I'm sure that want to see it, but I don't want to see it either. For what? I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:34 And the decision is drawing a lot of criticism. Democratic Senator Chris Murphy is among those speaking out. Let's listen to what he had to say. I mean, that's disgusting. What is he mimicking ISIS executions? I mean, I understand that in this country we have the death penalty, but public executions is medieval. It's frankly one of the things that we abhor about terrorist groups and the fact that the United States is doing it. I just learned this.
Starting point is 00:09:01 That is just absolutely extraordinary galling public hangings and executions. That's what America has become. That's pretty extraordinary. Yeah, I mean, I guess I don't know. I don't like to see stuff like that. Even on social media or that stuff coming across my feet, I block people for posting stuff like that. I don't want to see it. Yeah, and that's what they do in authoritarian country.
Starting point is 00:09:23 So, you know, a lot of people are pointing to similarities. Russia and other countries that they see this in. And not only that, once they do it in public, that footage is going to be everywhere, right? So kids are going to be able to see it, right? They're going to be seeing on their social media. It's going to be streaming. It's going to go viral. Oh, they're seeing worse on social now, but I'm just saying that the people in the government.
Starting point is 00:09:42 They should know better. Oh, of course. They want to be killed all day long. You can literally see people get, like, slaughter, killed, stabbed, shot, like, all that. I just feel like the government should know better. The government shouldn't be publicly broadcasting that. It's just bad enough. We got to watch it on social media all the time.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Damn. Well, the execution is scheduled for December 3rd. And this would be the military's first execution of a U.S. service member in 65 years. And the Trump administration is reportedly launching a major immigration crackdown across California and just weeks before the midterm elections. According to the Washington examiner, ICE agents have been told to carry out immigration. arrests whoever they encounter whether they have a criminal record or not. Now, the operation is expected to last 45 days.
Starting point is 00:10:29 It's reportedly supposed to start in San Diego and then expand through Los Angeles and up to San Francisco. California governor Gavin Newsom is accusing the president of trying to scare immigrant communities away from voting. And just last night here in New York City, an ice shooting is sparking outrage and protests after a federal agent shot a man yesterday with his five-year-old child sitting in the back seat. It happened in the Marble Hill neighborhood. Police say ICE agents fired several shots hitting the 28-year-old man in the neck. He was taken to the hospital in stable condition.
Starting point is 00:11:02 The child was not hurt. The federal officials say they were trying to arrest a man during an immigration operation. They haven't said what led to the shooting. There are hundreds of protesters still outside the hospital this morning. And New York mayor, Durrana Mondani, is calling for ICE to be abolished. I think we have something from him this morning. What happened today? an outrage. We know that ICE is rotten to its core. Today's shooting is only further devastating confirmation
Starting point is 00:11:29 of what we have long known, which is that ICE operates with impunity, that they sow chaos and terror across our country, that they have killed far more of our neighbors than they could ever have claimed to save. I still believe coming to midterms, you're going to see ICE agents
Starting point is 00:11:46 at the polls, and I wonder how to fear created by ICE may have already discouraged people from exercising and their right to vote. Like, well, it scared them away from the polls. Because if you spend months watching ICE, you know, raid neighborhoods and arrest people, you might already be afraid of encountering them.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Yeah. There was a hotline number that was already saying that they were receiving lots and lots of calls because they were afraid. People were afraid to leave their house with all of this going on, especially in California right now. Yeah, I mean, if ice can create fear, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:18 and chaos on, you know, ordinary city streets every day, you know, what safeguards are in place to prevent that same fear and chaos from interfering with an election. Because remember when Steve Bannon said back in November that day was already planning to have an ice agent surrounding the polls. Yeah. Or maybe that was earlier this year. No, we talked about that earlier this week. About 1,000 agents to be deployed at polling places. Yes.
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Starting point is 00:13:06 All right. Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800, 585105.105.1. If you need to Venice or Friday, call us up. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. It's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest.
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Starting point is 00:13:28 Hello. Can you hear me? I can hear you. What's your name, Mama? Hello, everybody. Good morning. This is Orlando County. I'm from Alexandria, Virginia.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I'm calling about the ice agents in the Bronx. I used to live there in Marble Hill. And for them to come there attacking, and when they say that the five-year-old child was not hurt, that child is traumatized the child is hurt that child watched his father
Starting point is 00:13:58 be shot at five years old they will need mental health care for a long time to come so when they say he's not hurt and something needs to be done let me tell you Shaughamette I have left
Starting point is 00:14:15 I got here in New York this morning so I can attend your mental health wellness tomorrow. Thank you. Just for this kind of situations where our children are traumatized when my child had to see me. And thank you to, um, envy. You prayed for me.
Starting point is 00:14:32 You gave me, um, healing, um, uh, I'm sorry. I'm so blessed because I survived at Mount Sinai Hospital seven and a half months ago from a major surgeries where it was determined I was going to die. And when you have a child. to watch you suffer even if you recover it affects them it affects them so to say that this child is not hurt is something that we need to change in saying because this child is hurt yeah and I want to ask you I'm coming trying to get there tomorrow I am in the wheelchair I am on the
Starting point is 00:15:15 oxygen tanks I want to know if there's availability for someone attend in the wheelchair. Is it accessible? Oh, yeah. It's accessible parking because I've been trying to get an accessible rental van for myself and another disabled person to get there tomorrow, but we haven't been able to get through on the phone to be able to ask these things. And it's sad because they're trying to charge a lot of money now to, not the wellness,
Starting point is 00:15:46 but the transportation to get from Manhattan, New York to New York to New York. with New Jersey. Yeah, I mean, the Wellness Center definitely has wheelchair, you know, accessibility. I don't know who you would talk to at the venue, but I mean, I know that Joel and Diane Bloom Wellness and the Vincentna absolutely has that. Well, that's... I was parking last year.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Is there a lot Charlemagne for her to park or is there street parking? I don't know about the parking situation, but I know the Wellness and the Vincenta definitely has a lot of wheelchair accessibility. Because, I mean, there's people there that come there every year in wheelchairs. Okay. Well, how can I find out because that's been the different difficulty with getting transportation is they don't know where to go parking and I have to make
Starting point is 00:16:28 all of that available myself. That I don't know about, but I will ask Debbie Brown. Debbie Brown, she'll be here in the 8 a.m. hour and she curated the whole event, so she could probably be able to answer those questions. But I will definitely write that question down and ask her. So you want to know about transportation to get there? from i'm coming from uh new york to to new work um parking um how how much how long for the parking and um i also have a service of a very small service animal with me is um trained and everything
Starting point is 00:17:05 paperwork is she allowed to come those are things i have to know before i even attempt to leave Well, they have parking for the Joel and Diane Bloom Wellness and the Vinc Center at NJIT. It's primarily available at designated campus parking decks and nearby visitor garages. So they do have parking there. I'm not sure how much it is to rent a vehicle, but it would probably be easier and maybe around the same price to get Uber to drop you off. Because that way they drop you off right in the front. So you don't have to worry about parking. You don't have to worry about, you know, driving around, walking around a block or, you know, going around the block.
Starting point is 00:17:42 But you're going to put their wheelchair in the Uber, though? Um, they have, they have the vans on there. It's an option for, um, handicap or, uh, you know, will. Yeah, because it's not foldable. It's a, it's a motorized wheelchair with all the, you know, tanks and stuff on it, they have, they have accessible cars where they have the, the ramp that comes down and you can just, you know, pull right on. So they got the Uber that do all that?
Starting point is 00:18:06 Yes, they're vans. Yeah, the vans. What do you do? What do you do on Uber? So you go on an Uber van and it says Uber van for the wheelchair? I'm just asking. I ain't never seen it. Y'all, I think y'all just giving out information.
Starting point is 00:18:17 No. They have handicapped accessibility. I've been calling, but the ones I've reached, they've won a bring, they can do it before $125 a ride. Yeah, that's, yeah. It is a lot more expensive for you all. But I know on the Lyft app, they do have like the handicap accessible rides that you can pick. And it is a lot more money, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Yeah, it says, listen, I'm watching, I've seen it before, but it says Uber offers handicapped and wheelchair. transportation. Yeah, you don't ever see that. Wave app. It's the wheelchair accessible vehicle app. The vans that ride around with the big blue wheelchair, someone.
Starting point is 00:18:51 I ain't know that was Uber. Yeah, Uber and L. I hadn't ever seen that. Yeah. Well, I thank you all for listening. I'm grateful to get through. All right, Mama, have a safe trip, okay? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Look to hear from you on Monday. Get it off your chest. 800, 585.15. One, if you need the vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. This is your time to get it off your chest. Keep calling.
Starting point is 00:19:12 800, 585-8-1-0-0-5-0-0-5-0-5-1. We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello, who's this? Hey, yo, it's Brandon, aka Heavy to Bartender. What's up, Heavy to Bar-Tender? What's going on? Morning, put you back, Braddon. She actually messaged me on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Okay. I did, and I linked you. Did they hit you up? I'll text them about you, too. Yeah, yeah. He hit me up. He was all booked up. But, I mean, I expected that.
Starting point is 00:19:38 This is last minute, so I'm just checking, you know, seeing if anybody got, you know, any last thing. You couldn't pull no strings BBL? I mean, they already got their stuff set up. They'd be having like full bartender setups already. But you BBL. But I ain't, that's their budget. I ain't gonna do that. But what you should do is though, you should stay in contact with them. They do events for alumni all year round.
Starting point is 00:19:58 They always need people, always need stuff. And you should just pull up, honestly. Yeah, I just can't pull up a liquor. No, pull up and attend. Okay. He, um, he, um, followed me back. So that was cool. And then, uh, he sent me like a link to a website to like, I guess, get like my page set up or whatever. I checked it out.
Starting point is 00:20:17 You got to go out there and hustle, bro. You got to go out there and hustle. Yeah, if I was... Go out there with your business cards. Go out there with your business cards. Your flyers. You got to go out there and hustle, brother. You got to let them know who you are.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Let them know what you do. You got to go out there hustle. She gave you the, she gave you the Ali-Uk. Now you got to go out there and dunk it, brother. You know what I do. And that's why I call you all, too. You know, y'all help me out, you know, by letting me use up some of y'all time
Starting point is 00:20:40 by talking about the business. So, you know, if anybody out there, that need a last-minute bartender for the homecoming weekend or for anything. I do anything. I do kids parties and everything, too, because I do mocktails, too. It's not just out of-office. I was about to say, God damn, that's the first thing you say as a bartender. I do kids parties, too.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Yeah, man, I was trying to get through a long time ago just so I could have did your daughter's birthday party. My daughter birthday party? Yeah, because the parents definitely need drinks with all them little kids running around. No, he's just a good. The mocktails is dope. The kids like to do like the little gym trails. They swear they'd be having her fake little cheers.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Especially like my kids love that on New Year's Eve. They love a new little mocktails. When you're doing these, you've got to cover every, every ground, you know. Yeah. Sometimes mobile bartenders don't let people know that we do mocktails. But yeah, I do mocktails too, you know, so you can reach me on TikTok at Heavy the Bartender. Or you can hit me on Facebook and Instagram and Heavy Made mobile bartender. Have a going, brother.
Starting point is 00:21:40 We'll see you at homecoming. He's heavy the bartender. Get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1. If you need the vent, you can hit us up. What's up, Lauren? Good morning, y'all. So y'all know it's Friday.
Starting point is 00:21:50 People dropping new music, but there is one artist who we now can confirm will be making her way through the GTA-6 world. There's a new game that's dropping. But people are talking a lot about the soundtrack, and this is a huge artist. It's a bunch of artists, though. Ain't just no one-old.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Yeah, yeah. But this one, people are really excited about it. Oh, you tripping. I love her, too, but you ain't, you ain't see who goes on there. She's on there. I know. She's trying to teach. There's one channel on there I'm really excited about.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Damn. I feel like for us to talk about it. We'll talk about it when we come back. All right. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. What, what, what you want to know. The latest with Lauren LaRosa.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Because you particularly are bringing the energy to mainstream radio, the black radio. That sources trust. Did you hear that exclusive? Lauren. I'm the home guy that knows a little bit about everything and everything. She'd be having the latest on things. You ask the questions that need to be answered.
Starting point is 00:22:40 On the breakfast club. A little brown girl. girls look at you and go, I want to be like you. L.L. Cubey, talk to me. All right, and y'all, so first, good morning. Good morning, L.L.L.Cube. Hey, shorthy. Hey, so we're going to start off the latest,
Starting point is 00:22:54 sending a congratulations to some of the people who were inducted last night into the Radio Hall of Fame. Okay. Yeah, so went down in Chicago last night. A big shout out to Miss Helen Little. Hey. Drop one of clues bonds for Helen Little. Yes, girl.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Radio legend, royalty. Only address her is your highness, okay? They'd be respectful. Period. Period. Period. Period. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yes. Bob Pittman as well was in the inductees. Drop one of clues bonds for Big BP. Bob Pittman, the owner of his whole thing. I heart radio, long overdue, but right on time. Mm-hmm. And Ricky Smiley as well. Drop one of the clue.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Hell yes. My guy. Big on. Big on. I love Ricky Smiley. It's so crazy when you hear these names because you would think that all of these people would have been in the radio. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Helen Little. Yes. Bob Pittman. Ricky Smiley. You would think these names would have been in the hall of fans. So when I thinked up like that, I'm like, well, who the hell in there if they're not? Who are all over? Right.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Damn. Yes. Yeah, well, congratulations to those, you know, guys and gal that were inducted last night. Well deserved, for sure. Now, shifting gears a bit. So GTA 6 has, Grand The Auto, has been a conversation dropping, supposed to be dropping, November 19th. About to be one of the biggest, no, the biggest video game of all time. But one of the biggest cultural moments we've probably seen in the last 20 years.
Starting point is 00:24:16 And it's been very long awaited. They did a collaboration with Netflix and had been rolling out things since. Yeah, and that was a big deal as well, too. That's crazy. Yes. So now there is, we've gotten more information on some of the music that will be involved in GTA6. So there are a bunch of different music stations that they have or radio stations that they have. Everything spanning across classic rock to talk radio.
Starting point is 00:24:37 But when it comes to us, people are excited to hear a few names. So in the Afro Bank category, Burnaboy will be within that station. He got his own radio station, Burnaboy. Yeah, Dirty South Classics. You have Trick and Shrina that will be within that station as well, too. Coquito FM, Bad Bunny, and Ray Nile. Oh, Coquito? Oh, is Ray be lit?
Starting point is 00:24:59 Yes. You also have the... Chet-ch-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-L. Yeah, so we have the country stations as well, too. Lana Del Rey, Morgan Wallin will be there. Yeah, so it's going to be lit. But people are really, really excited also to find out that they've been teasing this a bit. There have been little hints that have been dropping for the last two weeks.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Cardi B, she has a song called Don't Chart that will be a part of the GTS6 as well, too. And that is out now. We have a bit of the song. Let's take a listen. I can wait to run into you like go-carts. Burbs nips, don't get here with a crowbar. I'm a hub-d-ish. You couldn't go to those parts.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Look at me now. Cardi a whole star. I can name the song, don't chart. Hey, hey. Is this going to be a single? Yeah, it's out. The song is out. So it's all okay, so it's not just for Gine.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I don't like she recorded that a long time ago, though. Think so? It sounds like it. I mean, they've been teasing. There's been rumored that she was going to be a part of GTA6 for a while, so I don't know when she recorded this, but the last little. Sound like a bop? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:52 So I don't know the timeline, but she's in there. So congratulations to Cardi as well, too. And speak. Another thing I was reading, too, is that GTA6 has on-demand podcast. So it says the game is going to include podcast programming, but they haven't announced who the shows and hosts and topics in episode format. Y'all was literally just saying,
Starting point is 00:26:13 like, what if you steal one of the cars, right? And you turn on the radio and don't get a day's plan. Like, that would be fire, cute little touch. Yeah, and that's the first time that they're doing that ever in the franchise's history. But I thought it was just, I don't remember. That didn't happen, guys. What?
Starting point is 00:26:26 We would have known, right? Yeah, we'd have to have a movie. Hopefully. I don't know if we would have. Yeah. They got to pay for that type of stuff. I don't know. Get clearance.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I thought it was interesting, though, like even the talk radio part of it. Because I remember when I used to play like a long talk. I'm gonna go, you would hear radio, but I don't remember paying much attention to... Big boy was on there. Big boy, DJ Pooh. Maybe because I was so young,
Starting point is 00:26:46 I didn't pay that much attention to what I was listening to. Yeah, I don't know. That would be fired. You get in there. DJ Pooh had a classic West Coast hip hop station on there, and Big Boi had a modern hip hop station. I didn't remember the voices,
Starting point is 00:26:58 but yeah, I don't remember the... Yeah, exactly. What they were. Yeah, I did hear the talk radio. And you know what else, too? When you get out of the car, you'll still be able to listen. So I do remember it,
Starting point is 00:27:06 and it was only in the car at one point, but you'll be able to get out too. They're making it feel so like how we digest music or audio now. A donkey of the date to somebody who's stealing cars and you steal a car, whatever like that. Yo, that would be so... I don't know if we made it. Maybe when I grew up in 20 years.
Starting point is 00:27:22 I'll be 70. You're very resilient. You're talking about it being the biggest game, but part of that is if you really think about it, there hasn't been too many games that all generations play, right? So if you're 50, you're 40, you're 30, you're 20, you play GTA, right?
Starting point is 00:27:40 When I was a kid, my pops didn't play no video games. He wasn't popping out the Nintendo or the Sega or Kaliko. He wasn't paying it. But now there's so many different eras of ages and so many generations playing the games, which just makes it huge, which is dope. Absolutely. You're so right. Excited for that.
Starting point is 00:27:56 So that's supposed to be coming next month, November 19th. So when it drops my sister's birthday. Go ahead. My man. My bad. All right. That's the latest for the hour, y'all. And then the next latest, when we come back, we'll be talking some things,
Starting point is 00:28:09 Grammys as well. Some people are letting us know that they've submitted. We talked about Drake not submitting. Well, some artists are submitted. And some of them, we're going to talk about whether we think this will be the year that they get their flowers. All right. All right. Thank you, Lo. You're welcome. Now, when we come back, we've got front page news, so don't move anywhere. And we've got a gun of record
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Starting point is 00:29:08 I know. There's a lot of them to listen to these days. How are you going to get to us? Well, there's a specific reason why you should listen to us. We are the best podcast in the entire world, I swear. I know, bold. But why don't we list some of the things we might talk about on a regular episode? So sometimes we'll talk about, I don't know, the Uber driver we just had.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And how nice they were, or if we tipped them or not, come and find out. Sometimes we'll talk about that weird news story from last week. It's the one you're thinking about, trust me. Or maybe we'll talk about music and what's happening in the underground or drama in music or TV shows or the Met Gala and what the actors wore. What we're saying is we're not afraid to talk about everything under the sun. And if you want to see what that's like, come join us. It's a place where everyone can hang out, anyone.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Wherever you're from, whatever you're like, you're welcome. Listen to out of character from Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Pods, or wherever you get your podcasts. Lisa, we should tell them about our new show. Oh my God, Lexi. We have a new podcast. Don't lie to me. I'm Lexi Yuanyu.
Starting point is 00:30:12 We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart. And I'm Lisa Di Giulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions, and at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. I'm not gonna get any one you're fighting. That is wild. I learned that about you today. Now in my 30s, being the founder of new shoes, good taste is my business, and I've always got something to say.
Starting point is 00:30:40 If men were just honest about this, there would be so much more peace in the world. We're going to talk about dating, relationships, beauty, getting older, and a little wiser. We're best friends, but we don't always agree. Because you told us how accommodating you are. Obviously, I would do what I think I could do to fight the fight, but there's only so much fight I can fight. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me.
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Starting point is 00:31:15 Angel Geratana. Jeremy Colhain. Patrick McDonald. And we're the hosts of the Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists Podcast. The Improvised Character Comedy Podcast where each week a new panel of artists discuss their craft. Join us for a panel of wellness influencers. What I try to do is faux journal. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Have you guys heard of faux journaling? Yeah, it's reading. It's called reading. So we don't like to use that word anymore. Okay. A panel of New Yorker cartoonists. Have you guys done Terry Gross's Peloton class? No! I've been dying, too. I'm so sorry. I'm seeing a reading of Sadako and the Thousand Paper Cranes by Audra McDonald at the Wonderland Bookstore on 14.
Starting point is 00:31:55 That's crazy. I went to the Wonderland Bookstore yesterday, and I heard Nora Jones do a reading of Zero Dark 30. No way. You have to come to the last bookstore, though. Kim Cottrell is reading the guitar tabs of yesterday. A panel of Eurovision participants. And we do a little Halloween sometimes. Does the Pope dress up? He winks on Halloween. It's right up next to the microphone.
Starting point is 00:32:18 I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other. You never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween. Listen to artists on artists on artists on artists on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Morning everybody is DJ NV, J.N.V. Jess Salamey and Gai. We are the breakfast club. Let's jump back in some front page news. All right. Now, last night the Cowboys played, what was the score, Sholome?
Starting point is 00:32:46 I don't know. I went to sleep. We lost. 24-16. You're still supposed to know, you got to see it through, yo. You can't just check out because they're losing. No, I went to three Buccaneers. I went to sleep.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Oh, you were just tight. And then we were, no, the Bucs were only in four, actually. Okay, they're won in four, yeah, right? Yeah, they're only in four. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're still going to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:33:05 It don't matter what year we go When I say we're going We're going at some point Okay Okay, shoddy And congratulations to Asia Wilson Come on now WNBA MVP for the fifth time
Starting point is 00:33:20 You said in eight years, fifth time and nine years Fifth time and nine years Three straight consecutive MVP's Okay for Columbia South Carolina's own Asia Wilson Are right? That's right And tonight If you're WNBA to New York Liberty takes on your
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Starting point is 00:33:51 start in Memphis this hour. That's where tensions are boiling over after plans to build more data centers, including Elon Musk, his massive AI operation in the area. So residents, they are worried about air pollution, how much electricity and water these facilities are using.
Starting point is 00:34:08 And they want the city to stop the new data centers from being built and to expand, being built or expanded for one year while officials look into their concerns. This is one lady who was at the Capitol building protesting. Let's listen to what she had to say. It's just a total hazard. We've basically been invaded by strangers, by people that have gotten paid, and they have not communicated with us in any way. This is hurtful, and I'm rethinking where I need to be living in.
Starting point is 00:34:41 So that night, the city council, they voted seven to five to delay the decision again. So things got heated. More than 200 people. They showed up to protest. Some pulled out bullhorn, started chanting. Two women got into a physical fight. It was a lot happening that night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:58 And so inside the meeting, protesters, they confronted city council members. One city councilwoman, her name is Yolanda Cooper Sutton. She got into it with another protester and then got into it with another fellow councilman. Let's listen to that. Ain't no, pal. You pipe down, baby. I'm trapped back. That's all he does.
Starting point is 00:35:19 He bring up men. That's all you do, J.B. Smiley is confuse the people over and over and over. Every time it's in the election. Yeah, so it's a really touching subject. Seriously, man. People are really, really, really upset about this. Police were called in.
Starting point is 00:35:36 There were no arrest made. No injuries were reported, but the council, they're expected to take up this issue again on October 20th. The mayor, though, Mayor Paul Young, he says that he supports bringing more data centers to the city because they generate more tax revenue and they boost the local economy. Let's listen to them. I think in this year for XAI, it generated $54 million between the city and county. 25-ish to the city. We need those tax stops,
Starting point is 00:36:06 but we must do it in a way where our people are protected. Well, how about communicate that with the residents? You know what I'm saying? Like the woman said, that there's been no communication. If they have tax revenue
Starting point is 00:36:17 that can actually, you know, provide economic opportunities for these cities, you've got to tell that to the residents of these cities. Like, tell them how this can help, you know, the public schools be better.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Let them know that this could probably go to affordable housing or community, community center. you know, workforce programs. Like, you got to talk to the people. Yeah, so they see that. I think the problem is all they see
Starting point is 00:36:37 their bills going up and they're not seeing. That's right. They're not seeing. They see their bills going up and they're online looking at how these data centers are negatively affecting their environment. So you got to tell these people the pros of these data centers.
Starting point is 00:36:49 They see all of the cons. You got to go out there and tell them the pros. You got to sell it to the people. Yeah. Exactly. And I spoke with Tennessee State rep, Justin Pearson. He's running for Congress. We spoke about this on my podcast front page.
Starting point is 00:37:01 He is a, against these data centers, and that's a really good interview. So it's on my podcast front page. You can go listen to that full conversation. He's also talking about the harms that it's doing to the environment. And switching gears, a nasty stomach bug is now spreading through sex. Damn! What?
Starting point is 00:37:18 Oh, my God, Charlemagne. So doctors are warning that some cases are also becoming impossible to treat, guys. It's called Shigella. It can cause severe diarrhea. stomach cramps and fever. So this type of bacteria, it normally spreads through contaminated food, water, or poor hygiene.
Starting point is 00:37:38 And dounky? I know dunky involved. And dooky? I know don't be involved. Come on, now. Where do you mean? I don't see that on the list, but it's possible.
Starting point is 00:37:49 It's possible. Researchers are now seeing it spread more than sexual contact, like I said, and the strains are becoming resistant to antibiotics. Explain sexual contact. Sex. It is a STD.
Starting point is 00:38:01 right? They're going, they're not listen, it's a sexual content. Because it's a sexually transmitted disease. I'm sure it's sort of like an SDI. I think it's like a, something like that. Yeah, having sex and it mess your stomach up. Yeah. And you just have to stop pooping all over the place. Man, they're just making up
Starting point is 00:38:17 they're making up. That's right. They made up a new and gave it an ethnic name, Shigella. Right, right. You know, got that Shigua from Shigua. All right. Right. Shniko gave me the Shigella. No, yo, that's crazy. God.
Starting point is 00:38:31 It's hilarious. So, yeah, it's becoming resistant to antibiotics, which means medicine that doctors would normally use is not working. So they said more than a half a million Americans are getting infected every year. So doctors are warning. That's crazy. This bug is becoming harder to stop.
Starting point is 00:38:47 So just a heads up. Well, I feel sorry for this young generation. I'm so glad I was born in 1978, okay? And all of you old holes out there, male and female, if you're over 45 and you're still out there hoeing in these streets, you done duct chlamydia, syphilis, And gonorrhea just to catch Shagala? Might have got time for that.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Right. Oh, my God. You know, you know, I'm here in China. And one thing they do in China, as soon as you get off the airport, they have these cameras that check your temperature to see if you have a fever. Because if you're in sick, they put you in another room to find out why you are sick. I was always curious that why we don't do that. When somebody has a fever or they're sick, why don't we find out why they are sick so they don't spread? Is fever a symptom of Shigella?
Starting point is 00:39:24 Yes. Yeah. It is. Yep, it is. That is the same. We should do that at the breakfast clip. have a candy show people. So how do you know when you got it though?
Starting point is 00:39:33 I guess you have diarrhea. But there's so many things that give you diarrhea, I know. Just always got diarrhea. Being recalled. Yo, relax. That is true. I was thinking the same thing, but I didn't want to say nothing.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Yeah, but shut up. But it's so many things that you can get. Because there's so many things that give you diarrhea. How do you put a little fish in a gel? Listen. Listen. Go see the doctor so he can diagnose you, I guess. That's how you find out.
Starting point is 00:40:00 And ain't no cure? You said it's antibiotics. It says antibiotics are becoming resistant. Hey. Yeah. Man, find you a boo man. Get married, man.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Find one person to be in a lot of down. That's too much the safest thing to do. That's right. They're down here making new SDDs, y'all. Right. Like, what the hell? All right. And as we wrap guys, just a little reminder that cuffing season is here.
Starting point is 00:40:23 But I don't know. Yeah. Why would you leave with that? You just find one person, though. That's not bad. You find one person. Yes. One person, but this cuffing season,
Starting point is 00:40:32 people are saying the cost of living is so high, you know, they're not really looking to keep warm. They're looking for someone to split the bills with this season. Oh, shacking up. Yeah. So it might look a little different this year. That's all. So that's how we're doing cuffing season in 2026.
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Starting point is 00:40:58 Thank you. Now, when we come back from, the new movie Animals. Kerry Washington and Ben Affleck will be joining us. It's on Netflix right now today, and we're going to talk to them next. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Oh, shoot. I forgot to tell y'all. Donkey of the day. Today is Friday. So you know we do the people's donkey. All you got to do is call in right now. 1-800-585-105-1. And you can give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid.
Starting point is 00:41:21 It's the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NVJJJJJ Salaris. Charlemaine de God. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren La Rose is here as well. And we got some special guests in the building from the new project animals.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Kerry Washington and Ben Affleck are here. Good morning. Good morning. How are y'all feeling, man? How's your energy this morning? Good. It's great. I'm excited to be here.
Starting point is 00:41:43 I haven't been here before. Now you haven't been, that is true. How did I get this invite? You're very excited. You're a good plus one. She said she had a plus one. She's good. We didn't even look to see who it was.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Carrie said she got a plus one. He said, all right, cool. Oh, Ben Affleck, I agree. Phone in. Tell us. If Nambi can hold the purse, I can hold the purse. I mean, I was like, I do, I saw you Ben say that y'all chemistry, you and Carrie's chemistry,
Starting point is 00:42:08 it's the best experience you've ever had with another actor? Yeah, totally. I'm so glad that that's on record. At least for now. No, yeah, until the next one, then I'll just be saying that. Like, she's amazed we hate each other. No, I think because we were trying to like really dig into, like, what happens in a marriage, like really underneath a marriage,
Starting point is 00:42:29 kind of not just the what you put out there how you want people to see it but like what happens when you're together and you're close and then things can start to fall apart and how much you're going to really show that other person you know who you really are and there's a lot of risk to that
Starting point is 00:42:45 and maybe a lot of reward and I thought like it'd be really interesting to explore that but I needed somebody who was really willing to you know in preparation like talk about it in a real way and get really serious about Not like, oh, this is my marriage.
Starting point is 00:43:01 You know, we're going to use these things, but more in a way of... Life experience and lived experience. And just be honest about what are the things you're afraid of? What are the things you... You know, what are the masks you put up in the world? What are the things you're afraid for people to know about you? Just that, like, really digging in so that we could bring a life to these characters that felt real.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I mean, I would say working with Ben as a director is so incredible because he's so committed to figuring out what truth is supposed to look like on screen. I need more praise for Carrie. Ben, what did she give you creatively that you had an experience before? Because you work with a lot of actors. Yeah. Well, for one thing, Carrie really wrote the movie with me.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Like, we had to sit down and go, okay, if we're going to have this marriage and we know that it gets to a point of like real crisis where it's like, okay, are we going to be together or forget it? And there's like that moment to arrive at, that's a lot of pain. There's a lot of history. And when you have that conversation, a lot comes out, right? So we needed to get real about how did this start? Where was it early? How did we meet? What did my parents think of you?
Starting point is 00:44:01 And Karen, like, send me the our wedding music. I was like, oh, what was our song? Yeah, what was our song? Let me tell you, Ben knows a lot more R&B than I expected. I just never said. I was like, whoa, what's happening with these wedding songs? Carrie, it was like, who's Luther Vantross? No, it's just, I'm out of here.
Starting point is 00:44:18 What was the song he put on you? It was like, hold on. We had a few options. We had a few options, but what was surprised me? She reconsidered me a little bit. I was like, not really. What was the one that surprised you the most? I think some Freddie Jackson on there surprised me.
Starting point is 00:44:31 And also a lot of Mary Jay on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When he said that, it's not a secret. When he said that when he said something about Al Green too. Yeah, yeah. Love it. It was a really, you know, you have to really get serious and share kind of like, and part of me was like, okay, so what's your experience in interracial relationships?
Starting point is 00:44:54 Like what happens? because to me I wanted, when it comes to a head, like, all your, for my character, all his, like, insecurities come out. You know, all the things he's afraid of. Like, one of them is, like, you don't really want to be with me. You really want to be the black guy. You probably don't even love me. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:09 Maybe you're with me to be on the political track. Really nice house. Yeah, we have a nice house or all these things that, I don't care what kind of relationship you're in. You know, you have these little things that might eat at you at the corners. And, but they had to be real and they had to be specific. and we had to both know what they were so that when it came up
Starting point is 00:45:28 how we played it was kind of and I didn't want to have like you know I feel like there's movies that have certain rules about like well you're playing this person and you can't say this and I'm like forget that like if the audience is going to see this is going to feel really real to people
Starting point is 00:45:41 A it can't just be my voice it's not going to feel real if I it's like trying to play chess with yourself right like you still know what the other pieces you know people are thinking whereas you know not just Carrie but like Adriana and Luis, like they wrote all of their stuff. Stephen Yun and the three of us wrote that scene.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Came with their own scene. They were like, we should have this scene together. I was like, okay, do it. Let's see it. You know, I'm like, well, how come? She's like, well, you know, he's Korean in L.A. and I'm black, and we have this kind of history and it's complicated. And I was like, okay. That's also a real sign of Ben's self-confidence as a director because not all directors are like, bring all your ideas.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Let's collaborate. Let's work together. Let's rewrite stuff. So that was very rewarding for everybody in the cast to be able to, we rehearse. You never rehearse films anymore, but to be in this house, we moved into this house and rehearsed together and built these backstories and figured out what we wanted to say
Starting point is 00:46:34 and how we wanted to say it. It was really rewarding. Did you all any Dr. Umar videos? Oh, my God. We didn't do that, but we did like, we did just, for me, it was like, if we take the gloves off, like, for example, this scene with Carrie and Stephen,
Starting point is 00:46:49 I'm watching him, I'm not even sure. I'm like, ooh, so, oh, you know, You know what I mean? Kind of like, what is she going to say? Not like, you know, I was kind of watching it like, you know, like a prize fight almost, like these, or like a dance or something where these two, you know, and I'm thinking, she's not going to come back from this, you know what I mean? You also have to have, and this is what I mean about Carrie, like, she has, she's such
Starting point is 00:47:09 a serious and legit person, both, like, formidable and because I had seen her and been around her and all these circumstances and watch her hold her own with all these people, in some cases, like during the strike, and we're talking to people, and Carrie's out there talking about all the CEOs and then talking to all the unions. And I'm like, this woman is no joke. And she really holds her own
Starting point is 00:47:31 and also knows how to talk to people so they can hear what she's saying without compromising her authenticity. And what that made me, it gave me this like burning curiosity. You'd be like, what's the real Gary Washington? I feel like there's something in here that I really want to know.
Starting point is 00:47:48 And I thought if the audience had that, Like, then you have them leaning forward. Do you know what's funny though? You said that in another interview recently, and I've had two other black women say to me, what I think you said on the podcast. Yeah. And they were saying, when they heard you say it, they identified as successful black women because that's what they were like, that's what we have to do.
Starting point is 00:48:07 We have to constantly be thinking about our audience. And again, not abandoning our authenticity, but like, how can I be heard in this moment? That's just part of how we exist in the world. Yeah, I really learned that and saw that with you and saw. how you had to do a lot more than I had to. Because I could show up and sort of I just felt comfortable. And I'm able to have these conversations. And I watched you kind of doing this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:48:31 And I realized, oh, I see. They're kind of seeing her in a different way. And she's having to kind of overcome some of this and then show them some of that. And at the same time, be like, oh, but I'm not going to hurt you. And, you know, I'm going to tell them. It was a real, it was like kung fu type. The interracial lady and part of it too.
Starting point is 00:48:47 It was really. That whole thing as well makes it. like where you have to think about the audience and how you are in the relationship and how you show up in the marriage and it's levels to this. Yeah, for sure. I do want to say, Carrie,
Starting point is 00:48:57 when somebody who's accomplished as much as Ben said that you're the best experience he's ever had with another actor, do you feel pressure to live up to that? Or do you already know you hurt? No, I did. He didn't say that before we started working together. So I didn't feel the pressure,
Starting point is 00:49:13 but I didn't get pressure. Work is done. I did feel a certain amount of pressure going into it because, Gone Baby Gone, Gone, Argo, The Town. These are some of my favorite films. And he's the common denominator there. So if the scenes don't work, I'm the one who screwed it up.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Because he obviously knows what he's doing. So there was like a real desire to be part of something great with somebody who has a track record of being a great filmmaker. And I appreciate the modesty, but the truth is like, you work with people at a certain level and you know they're going to come with like, like, Carrie comes in and she's like, look, I know what I know. I know how to do this. I've been doing this a lot of years.
Starting point is 00:49:51 You're the director. Either you're going to help me or you're going to be in my way. And if you're in her way, what she's going to do is lock up. I guarantee you, because as an actor, we all have, maybe you more than others for all sorts of reasons, have been experiences where you're like, you don't understand me. You're trying to fuck what I'm doing. You're going to get my way. I'm going to have to just like, you know, kind of lock down and just do what I know how to do and protect myself. You've got to get great actors.
Starting point is 00:50:19 out of that to where they can trust you. That's the only time they'll go, okay, I give you a little bit. Like, I learned that with Morgan Freeman on my first movie. We did one take, and I was like, all right,
Starting point is 00:50:28 Morgan, can we do another one? He's like, why? Why? Because I'm the director? No, I was like,
Starting point is 00:50:37 because I thought you were like a little kind of too friendly and Navuncular. And he was like, mm-hmm, okay, one more. I was like,
Starting point is 00:50:43 but really what he was saying to me, it was really why. I'm doing this on purpose. It's not going to be different again unless you tell me something because I am a master. I understand what I'm doing. But you have to remain coachable though, right? He's coachable. When I had a reason, he was like, okay. He wanted to know why because I was like, it's too friendly. You need to be a little more intimidating. He was like, okay, I get that. And then by the way, tweaked it to the perfect place where it needed to be. And I was like, okay, and right then I felt like,
Starting point is 00:51:14 okay, we have a little bit of trust. If you're a master and you have, that much game, like, I'm not going to abuse your time. You know, I have no more direction to give you. What you've shown me is so excellent and beautiful. I can't add to it. If you want to tell me, actually, I think I want to try this, this little move or that thing. I'll sit here and watch it all day. But I think part of it's just like, I think when you're a really good actor, like Carrie, she also looking at me going, do you understand what I'm doing? Do you see what's happening? Or are you just... But that's from experience. I mean, I'm at a point in my career where I don't act in a lot of stuff that I'm not a producer of because I've also been in situations where I get a cut for a show that I'm doing and I look at the episode and I'm like the director, the editor in particular and the example I'm thinking of is not cutting my performance. They're cutting around the choices I'm making. And if I wasn't the producer, I wouldn't have a seat at the table to say like, we got to go back in and get this differently. Here's what I'm doing with this character. And that's been a real learning curve for me. To take on projects where I'm not a producer, it has to be.
Starting point is 00:52:16 be with artists whose I an instinct I really trust because I'm not going to be in a bad. It still felt like you were the boss though. Can we finish Carrie? Yeah, I think so. I feel like that's where the business is going though. The business is going to where the creators are the boss. Like, you know, you got sentient pre-productions and you just launched something.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Artis equity, you know, yesterday. Do y'all feel that way to do you too? Here's the thing. I think it's true because I think what happens that artists are recognizing like, oh, actually, we're the scarce asset here. You can see, oh, there's a real connection between, you know, what I do, and like, there's an economic impact of that. And you can kind of demonstrate that now. And so more and more people, I think, or this is kind
Starting point is 00:52:56 of what air was about, which I love was like going, actually, nope, I'll own this. You know what I mean? I'm the one who's going to go out and do it and build it with my son. In the case of that movie, you know, Dolores Jordan, who was like, no, it's going to be, Michael's going to own the shoe. And because it's either going to have value or not based on what he does as a player. And yeah, you see that in sports. Obviously, that tradition then, you know, carried on. And I think you see it more in media now. It took a little bit longer in media because the media is not quite so obvious.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Or if you're going to put 30 points up, like, we can see that. The media is kind of like, oh, I like him. I don't like her. Best in value. Did all a consolidation happening in Hollywood, like, you know, you just saw Paramount and Skydance coming together, did that make you want to do that because you saw it as an opportunity for creatives to get more projects made? I think it is an opportunity. Like, I think it's ironic because David Ellison, who owns all that now, started out, you know, as having his own independent company.
Starting point is 00:53:54 And I remember talking to him and going, hey, there's all these studios out there. They need people that can do projects and bring that to them. Now he's that guy. So I feel like, okay, you know, this is somebody who at least understands that. And where it's like, yeah, I think it's very difficult if you're running this big company to make a whole bunch of movies and make them well or a bunch of television shows. shows, like the more you kind of put that into one building with one group of people, I think the more value there is for people from the outside to show up and say, look, you saw that with, you see it all the time, sinners, right?
Starting point is 00:54:25 Like, those guys showed up and they were like, we have this movie, who's going to buy it? Right. And they were able to get, you know, a really interesting kind of breakthrough deal for that movie where they owned the reversion rights to it. Not only did it, it made money for Warren brothers, they're thrilled, drives a big hit, but also like Ryan and Mike, they kept, like, they owned it. the long-term value of the movie, which you never, ever get.
Starting point is 00:54:48 And so they were kind of like, actually, no, we want to keep that value. And it was real controversial. Some people were very upset at the studios because they were like, you're breaking this tradition and artists are going to own everything. And for them to do that, I thought was brilliant. And look, it's not easy.
Starting point is 00:55:04 You kind of have to be Ryan and Mike to walk in and be like, we have a great film and everybody wants it. So bid on it. But nonetheless, it speaks to your point. And that's the direction that it's really moving. If you walked into the new Paramount Tomorrow, Carrie, right? And what would you need to hear from the new leadership to believe they're genuinely
Starting point is 00:55:21 investing in diverse storytellers? Genuinely investing in diverse storytellers. Well, I think part of it is not just greenlighting projects, but allowing leadership, right, making sure that the people who are telling the stories or authoring the stories or owning the stories, but then also standing behind this programming in terms of marketing, in terms of giving shows a chance to live and breathe. So it's sort of like how are they engaging with the material from the very beginning investing in new voices and then how are they living with the projects all the way through?
Starting point is 00:55:54 So it'll take time to see really what their commitment is. But I also think to invest in diverse storytelling is just to invest in great storytelling. Like are they invested in innovative new voices without regard to having to limit certain voices or encourage certain voices. Like, there are always going to be great stories from every corner of society. So I just hope that that's what continues to happen in the business is that we all get to be telling these stories.
Starting point is 00:56:22 That's what seems so obvious to me. I've never once said to myself, like, let me go get diverse people for this. And I think this Korean cat and the white girl and these two Mexican guys. I think that's when it gets whacked. Never crossed my mind. That's not about humanity.
Starting point is 00:56:37 That's right. Yeah, that's kind of token. And then you're like, oh, and then this person can only do that and then you're like, I'm bored. It doesn't look like real life. The truth is like, it's a good for you because you're getting the best people. And so for me,
Starting point is 00:56:52 really, it wasn't, none of that crossed my mind. I just was like, let me get the best people with these experiences and create this story that's combustible and provocative. And then we lean into it. And then it's like, and then it's, it's, yeah. So I feel like that idea that they need to be somehow, like, it's just good business.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Let's just put it that way. It's just good storytelling and good business. Otherwise, you're going to tell boring stories. They're going to leave out a piece of the audience and leave out a piece of this experience of life, which is not one of like a monoculture. You know what I mean? It's like, here we all are.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Look at this fucking world again. People always say to me like, oh, why are you so committed to telling political stories or stories that center people of color or center women? It's like, because I'm a lead character. Like, if I'm a lead character on the show, you're going to call that political just because I'm in a black body and a female body, but I'm just telling stories that I can tell.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Why? Straight on stories about black women. Oh, you know, it's been what you was interested, right? Because people will love you, but they also... Do they? No, just me. You see what I'm talking about? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:53 It was like, I don't need to be married to black women. Forget about it. That's actually what you do. You know about that. It was a little close. It was almost me, Ben. They do love you, but they seem entertained whenever you look miserable. Like, you become a meme just for looking unhappy.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Like, does that ever bother you that people find humor and what they assume is you being unhappy? It doesn't bother me. Maybe you should. I'm not sure, Ma, maybe I should be offended by this. The cigarette smoking one, classic. Yeah, I think it's honestly because I kind of, I feel like if that was me, I would get it too.
Starting point is 00:58:28 I'm like, yep. I think the idea is like, okay, well, it doesn't matter who you were like, you're going to have days like this. Right. Like, everybody feels a little bit like, damn, the world is on my shoulders. Things are not going, right? I've certainly had moments of my life.
Starting point is 00:58:41 where that was also very true. So people know like, yep, this guy's been through plenty of ups and downs. Why you're laughing. You're laughing. See what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:58:50 Because you hear what is now. You made it through. That's right. But it's like, I'm cool with that. Really, I am. I feel like I'm very lucky. I'm grateful to,
Starting point is 00:58:58 maybe the failures, the adversities I have in my life have kind of allowed me to learn what I've learned. I didn't learn anything from success, except to just try to repeat it and get defensive. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:08 But you learn from, you learn from, failure getting knocked down is like he's not gonna kill you you know what I mean you actually can get back up and you can and then when you see you can do that you're like I can take more risks you know okay what's the worst thing can happen I've already kind of
Starting point is 00:59:23 dealt with that and I kind of think it's funny also my kids that's the only thing they care about in their mind that's like the only thing they're like you at least you're a meme like just any meme is good your family roof chatter full of memes of you the Dunkin Donuts the it was the
Starting point is 00:59:40 the door slam video, that was like a thing? Oh, the door slam, hilarious. People are like, it was so many men that was like, oh, I felt it. Like, you guys don't know spilling anything. Guess what? You didn't have somebody with a camera. You got you right when you spilt it.
Starting point is 00:59:54 But, you know, it is that, like, the only thing more embarrassing in that is, like, you ever see somebody, like, riding their bike and fall over? That's the thing. Has that happened to you? Has that happened? That's what I don't write about. That's what I don't read about.
Starting point is 01:00:06 I feel bad. So you've genuinely been going through painful things about the internet with laughing at you like sometimes. Like in those moments, some of them honestly, just the way, look, I just probably came myself and I was like, oh, fucking tired. And it's like, it looks like, damn, this world's on it. It shows, if they were moments that was like, oh, that was the day that, you know, whatever,
Starting point is 01:00:24 somebody died, then I'd be like, hey, that's not. Yeah. But I think it's, I mean, look, I can take a joke. I think you need to be able to be in front of the world and you're going to be asking, you've got to these days, if you don't have a sense of humor about yourself, if you're not able to take a joke. Good luck. Yeah, you're in a lot of trouble.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Like that stuff, honestly, I kind of see it for what it is. Like, this life is a carnival and the dogs are going to bark at the floats as they go by. You know what I mean? And so there's always going to be kind of some attention. And what I've really learned in, I don't know, it's been a lot of decades out in front of there is like, half the shit I don't even remember. Right. Honestly, I've forgotten plenty of things that people, what really trips me out is all the people who,
Starting point is 01:01:02 if I get like, in date, I can't believe they said this. This isn't true. And people are like, hey, this is the bargain that you made. And then that person ends up in the papers. They're on the phone for 15 minutes, the New York Post. Like, you need to correct this. I'm like, oh, what happened to the bargaining made?
Starting point is 01:01:17 But it's the burden of being who y'all are, right? Like, there's a burden to being carried Washington to a certain extent. There's a burden to being been affluent to a certain extent, right? You get a lot of good things. Yeah. There's a lot tougher jobs with bigger burdens than hours. You could have a lot of suffering and be laying brick. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:01:34 Like, kind of nobody's taking your picture and nobody sees it. and it's just hard. I actually think that there's some of that is why they're like, makes people feel good. Like, you're going to see you down. It's like it's all over the place. I'm not the only one.
Starting point is 01:01:47 And I really don't mind that because the truth is life can be hard on you sometimes. I don't hear who you are. Like, we face challenges. Life is not just going to lay itself out for you, you know, you're going to have to overcome some stuff and deal with stuff. And honestly,
Starting point is 01:02:00 I've been held a lot lucky than most people. So I don't have a lot to complain about. Either one of you ever wonder who you would have become if you hadn't gotten a famous? That's such an interesting question. I think I would, like what we would have done? I think I would like to think that I'd be the same person in terms of my values, the things that I care about. So we'll have the same face.
Starting point is 01:02:21 People that I love. Maybe less massages. But I probably would be a teacher is what I would be doing. I could so see you doing that. Yeah, I mean, my mom is a retired professor of education. What? It wouldn't be like a CEO or something. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:02:38 You'd be running some industry type. I mean, she's like, she would be dominating things. You know what I mean? It's my opinion. Like, this is somebody who has every opportunity that she's had. She's always made the most of it. Oh, let me go write a novel. Let me have this podcast.
Starting point is 01:02:51 But you have the curriculum. There's no end to Kerry's kind of ambition to and not ambition for the sake of like, oh, I want to rule the world. But like, hey, I have something to say. Let me express myself in this way and let me look at the system as it exists, figure out a way to navigate that, build it, and be successful. You've done that in 15 different ways. And part of that is also like, I think some of that is the pressure of having a grandmother who came here through Ellis Island and worked to clean houses.
Starting point is 01:03:15 It's like if I have an opportunity in front of me, I'm so terrified to waste it. I'm so terrified to not live to my fullest potential because it feels like not everybody gets the opportunities that we get. Yeah. What about you, Ben, is there a version of you that you feel like you never got the opportunity to become? You know, that's an interesting question. And it's just like these roads that untaken, you don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I know that I wanted to be an actor and I want to be a film. I wanted to do this from a very young age. I think I could easily imagine not having had breaks and opportunities and being less successful in that capacity. Because I was down to be like, all right, well, maybe I'll do plays. Or maybe I'll just imagine being a cinematographer and being really interested in that. I would have probably picked something around this. It was like how much would I have been able to get to? I was driven really honestly because my father, I viewed him as.
Starting point is 01:04:04 just sound about like that's a failure. Like, this was a guy who could not get a job who had a lot of problems, who was a drunk, who was always like getting fired. And, and also said, oh, you know, I'm going to be a writer or whatever it was. And I was like, dude, you can't fix a Toyota. You know what I mean? Like at the auditorium, you know, like, or be a bartender or, you know, he was a janitor at Harvard, which is where the Goodwell hunting sort of idea came from.
Starting point is 01:04:26 And for me, a lot of my youth was driven from, I'm not going to be that. You know, I'm not going to fail. I'm not going to be broke. I'm going to get a job. I'm going to make money. My goal was to be not say I'm an actor slash waiter slash. I want to actually be a living doing this. It really was that.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Like, to me that was success to not have to kind of qualify it with something else and have another job. Like if I, I think I put too much emphasis actually on money in some ways. Yeah. Yeah. Because that can mess you up and make your bad choices. You know, like you start making choices just based on money in this business. You're going to do stuff that's, you know, oftentimes isn't as good.
Starting point is 01:05:02 It's so funny. I always say to people, I'm very practiced at saying no in this business because from very early on I would read a script and be like,
Starting point is 01:05:10 this is a terrible film for a black woman. The stereotype that is being perpetuated in this project, there's no way I could forgive myself to do this.
Starting point is 01:05:17 So I'd rather work three more shifts in the restaurant than take on this role. So that I had to start to do those things. It's always a job at the post office.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Well, I'm glad that you are Ben Affleck because we wouldn't have the memes. And I'm glad that you are curry
Starting point is 01:05:31 in Washington because we got some memes for you too. That's great. That's great. I'm glad to be happy. You're her favorite daredevil. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:05:39 You are. Oh. That makes me feel good. I have this podcast that you don't agree. I'm an idiot. Animals out today on Netflix. Make sure you check it out. Ben Affleck, Carrie Washington.
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Starting point is 01:06:51 just everyday mundane situations in our lives, like the cool Uber driver we just had. Or the food we just say, that is surprisingly delicious. Or we'll talk about the med gala and the looks that they War. Are they awesome? Are they trendy? Come find out. Because our opinion matters. And so does yours. And this is a place where all of our minds can come together and connect. So what are you waiting for? Come connect with us. Listen out of character from Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Pods, or wherever you get your podcasts. Lisa, we should tell them about our new show. Oh my God, Lexi. We have a new podcast. It's called Don't Lie to Me. I'm Lexi You Want You. We're two best friends, 22 years apart.
Starting point is 01:07:32 but so close at heart. And I'm Lisa Di Giulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions, and at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. I'm not going to get anywhere fighting. That is wild. I learned that about you today.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Now in my 30s, being the founder of new shoes, good taste is my business, and I've always got something to say. If men were just honest about this, there would be so much more peace in the world. We're going to talk about dating, relationships, beauty, getting older, and a little wiser. We're best friends, but we don't always agree. Because you told us how accommodating you are.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Obviously, I would do what I think I could do to fight the fight, but there's only so much fight I can fight. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Liar. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I don't really care. Hi, this is Kylie Breakman.
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Starting point is 01:08:51 Have you guys heard of faux journaling? Yeah, it's reading. It's called reading. So we don't like to use that word anymore. Okay. A panel of New Yorker cartoonists. Have you guys done Terry Greer? Rosas Peloton class.
Starting point is 01:09:02 No! I've been dying too. I'm so sorry. I'm seeing a reading of Sadako and the Thousand Paper Cranes by Audra McDonald's at the Wonderland Bookstore on 14th. That's crazy. I went to the Wonderland Bookstore yesterday and I heard Nora Jones do a reading of Zero Dark 30. No way.
Starting point is 01:09:19 We'll have to come to the last bookstore though. Kim Cottrell is reading the guitar tabs of yesterday. A panel of Eurovision participants. And we do a little Halloween sometime. Does the Pope dress up? up. He winks on Halloween. He gets right up next to the microphone. I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other.
Starting point is 01:09:38 You never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween. Listen to artists on artists on artists on artists on the IHeard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yes, it's the world's most dangerous, want to show the Breakfast Club, DJ, envy, just hilarious. Charlemagne the God, envy just left. Yeah, he did. He was on this day. He was up on the Zoom or whatever. And I told you, y'allel. Yo, Jackie Chan popped out at one of the NBA games.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Yo, I said, what if you go over there and Jackie Chan is over there waiting for them? You ain't say that to me. I did. I said it on air. You just don't be listening. Yo. I wouldn't even pay no attention.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Envy is not there. Right? Over there. Envy is, he not there. He left. But I said, yo, what if you meet Jackie Chan? Did you run into Jackie Chan? He was like, no, no, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Oh, so you was being racist, but you ended up being right. No, I wasn't being racist. Oh, okay. So you just thought about. China's Jackie Chan. He over there. He owned, like, one of the cities over there. Yes, he does.
Starting point is 01:10:32 He owns like a whole city over there in China. Stop playing with me. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, for real, fact check. Because he do. Okay. But he was on a court, yo.
Starting point is 01:10:41 And he was shooting. He was like, I can make it. And he shot the, yo, he shot the wall. He didn't need the accent. It's time for the latest for Lauren. That's what he said. Lauren becoming a shell face. She gets him from somebody that knows somebody.
Starting point is 01:10:54 She gets the detail. I'm a little girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on this. That's a big. The latest with Lauren LaRosa Sometimes you have facts Sometimes you have details Sometimes you have a little bit everything
Starting point is 01:11:07 Well it's the latest Brought to you by Top Dog Law On the Breakfast Club Talk to me Top Dog Low And Jackie Chan does not own a city in China Oh God He owns like
Starting point is 01:11:16 He owns properties Okay You said a city All right So let's get into It's okay Jess Let's get into Some Grammy
Starting point is 01:11:26 Conversations So the Grammys are going to be Going down in February We do not know any of the nominees yet, but there are some submissions that are circulating online reportedly that fans are excited about. One of them that I wanted to talk about was
Starting point is 01:11:39 Waleigh. Now, we had Walee up here when he was promoting Everything Is A Lot, which is his album that he last dropped, and there's been a big conversation about everything is a lot being that album for Wale that gets him the I guess you would say the nod or the awards or whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:11:55 It's just due from the fans, but also from the, you know, the Grammy. That album came out. That album didn't come on this year, So, listen, you can submit So, yes, so the eligibility period is August 31st, 2025 to August 28, 22nd. Yes, and the first round of voting
Starting point is 01:12:13 goes down October 12, 2026, and ends October 22nd. Now, that first round of voting is what determines the actual nominees. And then the second round of voting determines the actual winners that are announced on February 7th during the award ceremony. Now, he reportedly submitted for album of the year. In that category,
Starting point is 01:12:31 will probably be Kaylani, Don Tolliver, Cardi B as well. But I think, you know, fans are just excited to see that maybe this will be the year when he gets his Just Do. That would be fantastic for Waile. First of all, I'm about to say Waale deserves it, but the reality of the situation is the album deserves it. Oh, my God, yes, such a great album.
Starting point is 01:12:49 So we'll see what happens and we'll keep you guys updated once the nominees drop because that is supposed to be coming in the next few weeks. So we'll let you guys know there. Now, shifting gears a bit. Yesterday, it was announced that there is going to be, be a different world rewatched podcast.
Starting point is 01:13:05 So it was announced yesterday that Cadeem Hardison and Daryl Bell. I'm sorry, yes. And Daryl will host this sit-down and it's going to be in partnership with Charlemagne the Gods Black Effect Podcast Network.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Dropping the clues bonds for Kadeem and Darry. Ron and Dwayne. Yes, and it will premiere October 15, 2026 with new episodes dropping every single Thursday. So episode by episode,
Starting point is 01:13:30 they'll rewatch the classic series and then go behind the scenes and talk about stories and cultural moments and the timing couldn't be any better. And the beautiful thing about a different world, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:40 the original TV series as well as the new TV series it sparks so many social conversations. Yes. Right? So there's so many different topics that come from those episodes that they will be expounding on
Starting point is 01:13:50 on the podcast. So salute to Khaddem and Da. Yes, salute to them. And reportedly their first guest is going to be Ms. Debbie Allen. And it's called a different world view. That's the name of the
Starting point is 01:14:02 That's the name of the podcast A different worldview So go subscribe to a different worldview Wherever you subscribe to your podcast Courtesy of the Black Effect Yes Now we're going to shift gears again But this time I do want to give you guys
Starting point is 01:14:13 Just a heads up or a warning The things that we're going to talk about Maybe a bit graphic and sensitive So Little John Who is working with Charlemagne the God To publish his book I only shout so you can hear me There are some excerpts from the book
Starting point is 01:14:27 That Are Circulating Daily Mail Did This Exclusive and he's revealing little John the last conversation, the last heartbreaking text exchange that he had with his son before his son passed away and in this conversation and after and in talking about it
Starting point is 01:14:42 little John is questioning whether he was too hard on his son during his struggles with anxiety and the physical pain that came from Nathan's anxiety so we'll get into some of the conversation so one of the text Nathan is talking a little John
Starting point is 01:14:57 about you know just the anxiety and different things that he's going through. Little John says that it was to a point where Nathan physically couldn't even get himself up off of the couch sometimes. He was about to have released new music, and he was very nervous about how that music would be received. So Little John text Nathan and says, I'm on you because I love you.
Starting point is 01:15:14 I care about you, and I want you to get better. Nathan says, I'm getting there. I've been going through a lot. I'm working through it. Give me some credit. And Little John then mentions that he felt like Nathan, or Nathan felt like Little John was being a bit hard on him. And then they say that there was a text,
Starting point is 01:15:29 shortly before Nathan's passing. And Nathan vowed to like stop letting fear get in the way of things that he was doing. The text says, I love you, dad. I got so much love for you. I'm going to stop letting fear hold me back. My love for you is stronger than my fear. And I'm going to get on supplements today. I know that my family bond is strong because our whole family really argues only because we care.
Starting point is 01:15:49 And little John responded, I do care a lot. You are my only son and I worry about you a lot. You are so talented and so smart. Nothing should be holding you back. and Nathan was scheduled to actually speak to his therapist later that day but that did not happen and the following day is when Little John got the phone call that Nathan was missing
Starting point is 01:16:06 so yeah he's just having a conversation about you know that time and I don't know if I would say regret but more so like how things are handled and how you go about that but it's difficult it's very difficult because you want the best for the people you love and you know your children yes yes and you know you love them but he says that some was struggling with things and he was just trying to be there as his father. Yeah, I wish
Starting point is 01:16:31 John didn't even have to add those chapters to his memoir, meaning that I wish his son was still here. Like no parent should have to experience that and no parent should have to write about that. But, you know, one of the interesting things about Lord John's book is the healing journey that John went on himself the work he did to himself
Starting point is 01:16:47 and I know that work that he did himself helped him when he had to deal with the passing of his son. So to the good brother, Lord John, man. Yes. And I only shout so you can hear me is a very on October 20th, but you can pre-order the book now. Yes, you can. Wherever you buy your books.
Starting point is 01:17:03 Yes, that was the latest. And we will be talking a bit more about this conversation with Little John, and I only shout so you can hear me on my podcast, the latest with Lauren the Rosa today as well, too. If you guys want to hear more there. Now, the latest is brought to you guys by Top Dog Law. You get the latest from me, but you can also get the latest from Top Dog Law. So you can go and see how much your case may be worth Unleashed Top Dog Law. and fight for the money you deserve.
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Starting point is 01:18:47 our kids to school. That's how mad and softened to you. So she's getting donkey of the week and of the month and all of that. Ebney, you are getting donkey of the week. Now, I want to ask you a simple. Simple question, can you beat Ebony in a fist fight? Hell yeah. Okay, just making sure, because, you know, she might want to see you after this.
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Starting point is 01:20:40 Hey, I want to get a biggest he-haw to all that non-black people that was up on the Facebook post talking racist stuff about the mad shooting in Atlanta, Georgia. Oh, got you, got you, got you, got you, got you. What were they saying? I didn't see it. They were just basically saying, you know, we already know who. who it is without even looking and calling this. You know, it's a bunch of monkeys and all that.
Starting point is 01:21:03 When white people are the most prominent and mass shootings, though, you know, just talking at the side of their neck. Yeah, the crazy thing about mass shootings, we know who, you know, does the majority of them in this country is usually, you know, white males, young white males, but also it's not a discrimination thing when them bullets start flying. Like anybody can get it when somebody just pulls up
Starting point is 01:21:25 into a random mall or a random school and just starts firing. So, you know, I think everybody should be a little, little cautious of how they speak on them things. You're right, something, man, but the thing about that is, like, this is our fourth year having the home country. We haven't had any problem. So, like, this was the first thing, first time that's something negative ever happened to the homecoming
Starting point is 01:21:46 because we're like a close city community. Damn, man. I'm sorry to hear that, brother. We already know it's like more of our house. Yeah, man, I'm sorry to hear that, man. I hope the community recovers from that, brother. Appreciate it, bro. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:22:01 And listen, all I stated was a fact just now. The majority of perpetrators in the U.S. public mass shootings are white. Okay, that's according to data from the National Institute of Justice, public mass shootings, and Rockefeller Institute of Government. 52% to 54.6% of all mass shooters are white. Good morning. Who's this? Good morning.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Good morning. This is G. G.B. from the Bronx. G. G.B. You're the last one, brother. Make it good. You know the craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida? Who you want to get the biggest he heart to, sir? Oh, man. Yeah, I want to give y'all. I want to give you a donkey today today. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:36 As a matter of time, I want to give you a baby donkey. It's not even that big. Okay. So basically, basically, any... I have Mimi Brown, you know, on her segment doing her reports or whatever. Tomia, I always has her head down. I understand, you know, she has to read off the paper or whatever. She can just, like, some way, set her up with, like, teleprompter. whatever it is I use. But if y'all, you know, face forward to the camera,
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Starting point is 01:23:13 Like, her head is not always down, y'all. But still, y'all are on TV. Like, we don't want to see your forehead. Oh, you're going to see this. You see your face. Well, we'll relay the note. Just keep your head up. Keep their head up.
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Starting point is 01:23:56 Cut it out. All right. All right. That's the people's donkey. We do it every Friday. You can call up, give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid. 1-800-5-105-1. Now, when we come back, my good sister, Debbie Brown, will be here.
Starting point is 01:24:10 She is the host of the Deeply Well Podcast. Plus, she is the curator of the Mental Wealth Expo, which is back tomorrow, the sixth annual Mental Wealth Expo. It'll be in Newark, New Jersey at the Joella and Diane Bloom Wellness and Events Center for World Mental Health Day from 11. the 4 p.m. is free and open to all ages and Debbie will be here to talk to us about it when we come back. It's the world's most dangerous morning show to breakfast club. Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show the breakfast club.
Starting point is 01:24:34 DJ Envy J. N.V. J. Jalry is Shalemmaid. N. N.B. N.Ros is not here. And we have a special guest. Master well-being, educator and healer. And she is the curator of the sixth annual mental wealth expo. Which is happening tomorrow in Newark, New Jersey. Debbie Brown is here. Yes. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning, please. Thank you. How's your energy?
Starting point is 01:24:57 Oh, I'm feeling good. I'm so ready for tomorrow. Tomorrow, man. Sixth annual Mental Welfth Expo happening at the Joel and Diane Blume Wellness and Events Center. How did it feel, how did it feel to curate the whole event this year? You know, what I'm really excited about this year,
Starting point is 01:25:11 so this is the sixth year. You have been doing this for five years. I've been it every year. You know, it gets bigger, and I think our message is even stronger this year. You know, this year we're taking it to the next level. I think we've really, like, done an incredible job. the mental wealth alliance of, you know, helping to destigmatize, helping to really mainstream
Starting point is 01:25:30 conversations about mental health. And this year is the year of tools. It's a year of solutions. It's a year of, you know, integration in workshops. We have to stop theorizing our healing and really like get into the practices that make it come to life and make it true. So we can change. We can transform. We can have the kind of relationships we deserve to have. The families, the communities we deserve to have. Now, dad's been a little bit of. on the board in the Mental Welfare Alliance since the beginning. Like, you know, we founded the mental welfare lines together, but you've been a participant the last five years in the Expo, but this year you curated all of the programming.
Starting point is 01:26:05 Yeah. How stressful was that? How stressful was that for you? Okay, very, but I do have to say, like, we are so lucky to have IHeard as a partner because, like, the team here has been absolutely incredible. And every year, they're just the masters of putting on, like, really engaging, like, incredible events. So we have an amazing team.
Starting point is 01:26:25 We have amazing sponsors. I have to shout out, especially sore and medical. Absolutely. We're going to be doing some, yeah, Dr. Puma. We're going to have a special heart moment on the stage. But I wanted to bring like more nuanced conversations to the table. I think, you know, and these are all valuable, but I think we've just moved past it. For the last several years, there's been so many conversations of like around anxiety, around depression.
Starting point is 01:26:49 But we got to talk about some of the deeper things that happen to in my last couple years. mental health conversation. So one of the panels that we're going to have is all about, you know, what to do after you receive a diagnosis, you know, those living with mental illness, those caretaking for people that are mentally ill. So we have an incredible panel with Eli Akani, Dr. Rita Walker, Dr. Jay Barnett, just three of the best voices in this space. Definitely. Trent out loud. And we're going to be talking, you know, if you have a diagnosis of bipolar or personality disorder, or such a multitude of things, you know, what are some ways that you can still really thrive in life
Starting point is 01:27:25 and move forward and have, you know, all the relationships and experiences you deserve. And we're going to have, we have an incredible workshop with Keirre Gaines that's happening. Oh, that's a Kierre Gaines. Incredible voice. My NB brother. Incredible voice.
Starting point is 01:27:39 Has a new book out. And he's going to be bringing that to life and leading a workshop on healthy communication. So, you know, for those of us out there that are like, okay, I'm tired of getting true. triggered and talking about my triggers and I'm ready to learn like what are the real skills so that doesn't take over my life. We're going to be diving into that. Self care practices, meditation, breath work, parenting wounds. We're talking about inner child healing in a really, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:05 deep, expansive way with the tools to say, okay, if this was my experience, how do I move past it? So, yeah, really, I mean, we are just bringing so much to life and we're finally getting into the nuance of these conversations. And it's a free event tomorrow at the Joelle and Diane Bloom Wellness and Event Center in Newark, New Jersey starts at 11 a.m. I wanted to ask you, Dev, what are you seeing in people emotionally and spiritually this year that made you say, this is what we need right now? We need to just focus on solutions and pathways to healing at the mental health. People really want tools. They're tired of talking about it. You know, I think for a long time, we can all use anything to avoid ourselves, including sometimes therapy. You know, self-awareness isn't the same thing as like emotional
Starting point is 01:28:49 maturity. Man. And that's what changes your life, like making new decisions in real time, practicing, experimenting with yourself. You know, when you leave a therapy session, getting into the world and saying, let me really try these things that I'm learning. Sometimes you're going to get it wrong. Sometimes you're going to get a right. But the practice, the repetition of it is what changes your life. And so, you know, I think even when, you know, I had the, I had the blessing to come on the show to talk about my book, Living and Wisdom, like, that's what my book is about. It's like, let's stop theorizing. Let's put it into practice. Let's stop, you know, owning all this language and actually change our choices to change our lives. And we all deserve, like, real examples of how to do that.
Starting point is 01:29:33 You know, I think it's easy, you know, we'll tell kids stuff like, just breathe, you know, just breathe. Okay. Like, they just got to Earth. Show. them with your body show them with your emotional regulation how to do that and we don't always know how to do that naturally and so you come to an experience like this tomorrow we have a full day of programming 11 to 4 we're taking it you know from breakout rooms we're having main stage conversations we have like an incredible book village that's coming to life huge huge shout out to village books dr kee hallman we're gonna have you know every every person that's there with their book,
Starting point is 01:30:15 there's going to be signings, there's going to be conversations. So it's like... Dr. Rita Walker with the unapologetic guy, the black mental health. A classic. With all his solution focused therapy books. Debbie Brown's books, you know,
Starting point is 01:30:26 living in wisdom. Who else? Got books. A lot of people. Yeah, everybody. Pierre, Dr. Jay. Yeah, got a new New York Times best seller. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Yeah. Like, almost everyone that we have coming is somebody that is changing the game in mental health and wellness. And then we have, I mean, just one of the greatest to ever do it. Dr. Yama Vanzan is joining us. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Yes. Yes. Yeah. What? My little inner child is going to be jumping up and down, you know, all day. So she is paired with Dr. Julius Thomas, who's a really, really brilliant doctor in this space, who was a former NFL player, went to school, got his doctorate, like, and is now helping to transform other athlete lives. He works with the San Antonio Spurs. And so that conversation.
Starting point is 01:31:12 is going to be how to heal the heart and rewire the brain. So we're taking the spiritual healing and that kind of like emotional understanding to the next level. And he's going to be talking with her about ways to actually change the way you think. Because I think a lot of times we have hard things happen to us. We want to move past it. But a lot of times you can have ruminating thoughts. You can have those intrusive thoughts where you just can't get your mind out of it. And so those are some of the things that we hope to address, to talk about to give people an opportunity to just learn more about and everything doesn't get fixed in one day, but being exposed to all the different ways that you uniquely can change your life is such a, it's a powerful
Starting point is 01:31:54 start. I do, or a statement, you know what I realized a lot more this year is that I have so many friends that are in the space that are wanting to be involved in their young and they're working different fields, but they have this background of like therapy or like social work or something. And I didn't know that so many people were having a conversation across so many different professional fields. Oh my God. I mean, it's what affects everything about our lives. Yeah, I had no idea. The human experience. And I think that's so fair because a lot of us don't even imagine that this stuff going on inside of us affects our lives to the extent that it does.
Starting point is 01:32:30 But everything is ruled by it. And so also to any young professionals in this space, any season professionals in this space, we would love to collaborate. You know, we've been doing this for the last six years, but we want to take this across the country. And so this is our plan, you know, moving forward, like being able to bring all of this into more communities, into more environments, into more households. People ask that all the time. They'll call the parents and say, we need to do this more than once a year. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:57 I don't know if we can do the whole expo more than once a year, but like smaller events throughout the year in different places. Yeah, that's the plan. I mean, this is something you've been passionate about. We've been friends almost 20 years. And even without all the language. this has been important to you since I've known you, you know. So I'm excited for us to let this spread.
Starting point is 01:33:17 We got to get into some other cities in 2027. We need to bring this into all the communities that deserve it. I also feel like the youth needs it as well. But how would you encourage the youth to take that mental help seriously, especially when they're in the world right now, where they're trying to figure out who they are, figure out how to fit in, figure out how to keep up, because social media is a big stressor as well.
Starting point is 01:33:40 You know, it's moneymaker. It's, you know, it can be whatever you use it for, but it also contributes to a lot of mental illness as well. It shatters confidence. And it got you thinking that you're in a race that you ain't even in. And I see it a lot with the youth. How do, I know you can't change everything in one day, like you just said, with the Mental Welfth Expo, but how can you encourage the youth to take it serious, to take it serious as well? To be honest, as adults, we have to step it up. All of us.
Starting point is 01:34:07 It's our job to role model for the youth. You know, the thing, I feel like something I hear a lot is a lot of youth judgment. Yeah. Like there's a lot of ways that we're like, ah, these kids and these screens. Who bought it? Who gave it to them? Who wired their brains? You know, we have to also like fundamentally look at how things work, their biology, you know, their mental development, their emotional development at the ages that they are at.
Starting point is 01:34:33 And we need to come down to their level. I think a lot of adults do so much talking at young people. and not enough real role modeling through their behavior and not enough support of understanding like what do you actually need at that age? Definitely isn't more judgment. You know, it's more so like, well, what else? What is another option?
Starting point is 01:34:53 You know, our young people are alive as themselves for the first time. They've only been here, you know, 10 years, 20 years at the most. We have to show them and stop just picking apart the way they do things because their whole lives are modeled after ours. We set these generations that are underneath us up for all the ways that they're living right now. And we're expecting them to like raw dog this digital world that we threw them into.
Starting point is 01:35:19 He's straight up and jumped out. No, he knew. She's done. She's right. But that's why I love Kierre Gaines. He is really good for the youth and like, especially young black brothers who are going through, you know, they're going through things that they're going through trauma, childhood experiences, whether they live a light or they live lives in the street. and they're trying to, you know, turn legit. Like, he is a good brother for that.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Yeah. Because he's from the DMV. I'm from the DMV. And when I sat down with him, he really, he catered to a lot of, like, like, how he used to be and how he, I always say, if I'm going to get a therapist, I don't want a therapist who has never been through anything. Because how can you relate to me? How can you properly assess me?
Starting point is 01:36:01 You're culturally competent. Yeah, right. And that's exactly what I felt when I sat down to him. So I'm glad you got him on the lineup because, yeah. Yeah. He's really special and amazing. And I think that's what so many of our incredible specialists that are coming tomorrow. And I really want to stress that.
Starting point is 01:36:16 Like this is not some influencer event, right? Like no disrespect, but this is not people with just like ideas or like good quotes about things and a bunch of followers. Like, what does that mean? Like this is really about people that have dedicated their actual lives to this who have lived experience. You know, one of the other things that we're having in a breakout session. We're having this incredible breakout room with Judge William Dawson called a courtroom and community perspective on healing and transformation. So for those that find themselves in the system or have family members or loved ones that are, you know, what are what's the healing journey for that? You know, those are the kind of conversations we're going to explore.
Starting point is 01:37:00 And I'm excited to bring it past, you know, just conversations and not to downplay it, but we got to stop talking about, yeah, I have anxiety. Yeah, me too. Yeah, sometimes I feel depressed. Yeah, me too. What's the solution? But what are the ways that we can work with that? Even the things that we can't change, right? Like, how do we help alleviate some suffering and ourselves and other people?
Starting point is 01:37:22 I want to ask you, if there are a danger in turning healing into an identity? Meaning, like, some people have been on a healing journey for so long that I wonder if they're actually trying to get somewhere. Are you actually trying to arrive at a place of actual healing? You know, I think that a lot of people try to turn absolutely anything into an identity. And I think that's what some of the deeper issue is. You know, it's like everyone is trying to package something about themselves to make themselves feel worthy or seen or, you know, more connected to. But yeah, I think, you know, making pain your identity is really tricky. I understand how it happens and why it happens.
Starting point is 01:38:02 Life is very hard. We do not talk about that. enough in a clear way like life is very hard and for some people so much more so so i get that but i think it's also important that people know like there is no freedom in that right like you may not be able to get free you may not have peace like it's just another performance yeah um and also too you know no judgment there are some things none of us have been through that seem insurmountable to heal so sometimes you do spend your whole life doing it and i I don't think there's shame in that.
Starting point is 01:38:37 There's no destination that we're ever going to get to. You have the spiritual curriculum you came here with. And we all just, we play the cards. We're dealt. We do the best that we can. But I think as long as it's evolutionary, as long as we're continuing to honor ourselves, to value ourselves,
Starting point is 01:38:54 to look for ways to empower our lives, to alleviate, you know, some of the hurt. I think there's just so much dignity and beauty in that. I agree. Do you guys hear from the crowd? Like, you know, do you guys allow people in the audiences to, you know, in the audience to feel vulnerable enough to share, you know, what they're going through?
Starting point is 01:39:14 Or is it just like panel where you're talking at the audience? No, I'm so glad you asked that question. We are so blessed to have so many mental health care volunteers. We are going to have volunteers throughout the entire arena. And when, you know, if someone is seeing a panel or something's coming to life inside of them, there will be an opportunity to tuck away with a trained professional and get a little bit more perspective or, you know, pointed in the right direction. I think this year what I really looked to do was I wanted to dismantle all panels. You know, when we have some of these incredible voices,
Starting point is 01:39:49 and you're trying to jam pack, you know, four to ten people on a panel, what is the audience really hearing? What do you get to take away? Right. It's not just about clip life, you know what I mean? And so this year we broke out all the panels and we turned them into workshops or more kind of one-on-one driven conversations. We also have some amazing women joining us. We have Michelle Williams, who has showed up for us every single year. Unless she's on Broadway.
Starting point is 01:40:17 I think one year she had Broadway. And then we also have joining her will be Coya Webb, Jovi and Zane. They're going to be doing a panel on nervous system regulation and self-care. Because I know people are even tired of hearing the work. self-care. Like, what is that? Yeah. Right? And like, if you don't care about yourself yet, that's a hard thing to attach
Starting point is 01:40:38 yourself to. And so we're going to really demystify that and just what are ways to take care of your body and your brain because you deserve it. Savannah Stevens, Dr. Julius Thomas, Dr. Mark Brackett, Paris Alexandria. Jennifer Arnese, just
Starting point is 01:40:53 turn out loud, just saluting some of the people that's going to be there that we haven't. But, Dev, thank you for curating this year, six annual Mental Wealth Expo. We got a lot more work to do. Please join us tomorrow
Starting point is 01:41:06 at the Joelle and Diane Bloom Wellness and the Event Center from 11 a.m. People want to know what you're doing. You're going to be speaking to, right? Yes. Well, me and you are hosting it. So we're going to be on stage.
Starting point is 01:41:17 And then my hope is to just really show up in community with everybody and get everything moving the way that it needs to move. Last year, I taught meditation and breath work and did some panels. So I'm going to be squeezing in and available for all the hugs.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Oh, nice, because, girl, you give some great hugs, girl. So go to Mental Wealthexpo.com. You can RSVP to be there. It's a free event from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. at the Joelle and Diane Bloom Wellness and Events Center in Newark, New Jersey. Debbie Brown, thank you. Oh, thank you. I love you.
Starting point is 01:41:47 Thank you for everything you do for the world and the community. Everything you do for me is a friend. I love you. And thank you so much to the women in the room because y'all are incredible. Thank you, babe. And I've been a fan. So it's like I've always been texting him like, damn, they sound so good or I love that perspective. So it's just a blessing to have so many dynamic women with so many different like pieces of lived experience that you guys bring to life.
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Starting point is 01:42:58 I know. There's a lot of them to listen to these days. How are you going to get to us? Well, there's a specific reason why you should listen to us. We are the best podcast in the entire world, I swear. I know, bold. But why don't we list some of the things we might talk about on a regular episode? So sometimes we'll talk about, I don't know, the Uber driver we just had.
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Starting point is 01:44:12 occasionally different opinions, and at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. I'm not going to get anywhere fighting. That is wild. I learned that about you today. Now in my 30s, being the founder of new shoes, good taste is my business. And I've always always got something to say. If men were just honest about this, there would be so much more peace in the world. We're going to talk about dating, relationships, beauty, getting older, and a little wiser. We're best friends, but we don't always agree. Because you told us how accommodating you are.
Starting point is 01:44:44 Obviously, I would do what I think I could do to fight the fight, but there's only so much fight I can fight. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Liar.
Starting point is 01:44:57 Listen on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. I don't really care. I'm Lacey Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creator, and host of Scam Goddess Podcasts. The True Crime Comedy Podcasts all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Each week I bring on incredible guests like Conan O'Brien, Iowa Debrie, Lamorne Morris, and Nicole Beyer.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Ooh, I scammed them. What? I can talk to you for an hour. You're a generational yapper like me. That's why I had to make yapping a job. And the scams. run the gamut. I'm talking about scams from the 1800s all the way up to today. I also warn you and keep you safe against scammers. Call your grandparents. Tell your parents to stop clicking on links,
Starting point is 01:45:43 please. And now you can catch full episodes of my show on YouTube. If there's a scam, I'm here to protect you. And I'm also here to laugh with you. So if you like fun, if you like comedy and you like learning and protecting yourself from criminals, start listening to scam goddess on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. DJ Envy, Just Hilaria, and Charlemagne the God. Envy is out, but Lauren LaRosa is in. But right now, it's time for past the aks.
Starting point is 01:46:14 Go. Go. I need a DJ. My DJ. Jay, come spin, I come spin. Big Nila, young 1990 now. Your intro, you want to do this. Sugar Night.
Starting point is 01:46:33 That's what I just did, too. The certified viber. You know? Hey, girl. Next 99 has been my new DJ job. It's working well. Dope. Especially at the airport this morning.
Starting point is 01:46:42 Someone stopped me. I was like, are you Nyla? And I was like, yeah, she's like, Charlemagne is right. You are 90s fine. I was like, Charlemagne's never called me 90s fine. But I think, yeah. No, it's working.
Starting point is 01:46:53 But we know what you get in. We have a lot of gross, you know. You know what I said. I told you give brown sugar. Thank you. Love it. See, that's all she meant. That's all she meant.
Starting point is 01:47:01 But all right, I want to get into these songs. The first one I want to get into is from Trap Dickie and Owen B. Peasy, and they flipped no scrub. I wish I could hear more. I like that. Yeah, I actually really like that one. You know, I don't really be dabbling too much in the trap rat bag, but I like that one a lot. Next, I'm going to go with this A.G. Shaik record.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Oh, I like Easy Chike. Okay. Oh, from L.A.? Yeah. I'm trying to figure out how to pronounce his name. I like him. I started listening to him after listening to GNX, you know, with Kendrick, because he had to son him. So he just dropped this project last Friday,
Starting point is 01:47:37 and the record that they're pushing is one with Tyler, and then there's another one called Negative that I like. But my favorite one personally was this one featuring Jameson called Need Your Love. Oh, I'm a vibe to that later. I need that way. He made me want to go listen to his journey. Who he signed to? I think it's Warner.
Starting point is 01:47:57 I don't understand why a lot of those artists from the West Coast, especially the ones who got that alley-out from Kendrick labels didn't get behind. In a real way. That's a radio record. That's a way. I think they tried. I think they tried. I know Apple did like some good support behind his project.
Starting point is 01:48:13 Yeah, but, you know, this also, you know, we in New York. Is L.A. playing this? I would hope L.A. is playing this at least. I don't know. I'd let you know. I'm going out there this week. LA Radio, we'd be a little. You got to play your own artists.
Starting point is 01:48:27 Well, let us know AZ. That's an A. A.Z. Hit us up in the comments. You guys should actually have them up. Yeah. I like him. This is like a big moment for him.
Starting point is 01:48:35 This is a good project to grab him. Look it up. Connector. Okay. Connect the dots. Connector. Okay. Well, my last record is from, oh, overcast. You guys seen the artist who was doing a lot.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Well, it's going through the lawsuit. Yes. Okay. People told me he'd been hard. He'd been moving. But the Outcast lawsuit made everybody start. Now I feel like I see him all over my timeline. I know.
Starting point is 01:48:57 It always takes something that's like not related to the music that make people care about music these days. This is the first time I've ever hearing this music. Yeah. He ain't all over my time. Yeah. He ain't all over my timeline, but I've heard about him. Actually, that on the radar freestyle that went viral earlier this year, that had like Ben,
Starting point is 01:49:11 Ruben, Marco and all them on it. The beat was produced by Overcast. And Overcast was on that. Oh, he's a producer. He's a producer and a rapper. And he's an artist, though, too. Yeah. People who talk about him.
Starting point is 01:49:20 He had some dope music, apparently. Yes. So, all right. Well, let's see if you guys like it. This is Overcast, featuring Marco Plus and Ben Riley. So for the profit, I'm scheming. Boxing my demons on the block. A bound block I'm deleted.
Starting point is 01:49:30 Some high bees punching a clock, pushing the clock, just depleted. He made this beat too He's all right Yeah What video game is that? It sounds like Nintendo Yeah, that's a video game That's tough
Starting point is 01:49:40 I didn't know McCas I just wanted to confirm But he made the beat For Make Them Pay on Drake's The one that you have Really like
Starting point is 01:49:47 Oh, yeah Yeah All right I mean Drake body the two But Yeah Yeah He said the one that
Starting point is 01:49:53 Kai killed This Drake I'm thinking of the Kyle Cash version No that's tough Yeah he is definitely You were like Naturally
Starting point is 01:49:59 Like That's tough He did that Like Yeah, like you just close out. I killed him. Listen, that's tough. And you know what's so funny?
Starting point is 01:50:07 When you say his name, I don't think Outcast. I don't either. No, but when I see it, that's the problem. When I see it, I'm like, oh, Outcast change their logo? Because I can't tell that it says Overcast when I see it. But when you say it, I'm like, oh, overcast. Okay, that makes sense. I think where he messed up.
Starting point is 01:50:23 His name O-V-E-R instead of just. Because it's spelled with the same three. But it's a symbol, too. He could just go by cast, too. I do think you know, Lotto changed your name. It's not uncommon to change your name if you offend a bunch of people.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Where he messed up with saying in an interview that fans get it confused. Like putting that on record is like because out cares and overcast I don't get that confused at all. Me neither. It's just looking at it. Yeah, looking at it.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's tough. What was that record again? Heroes and Villains. That's tough. I want to know what did he sample. Was it Zelda? Let me see what he sampled.
Starting point is 01:50:56 That's tough. Yeah, that one got Marco and Ben. So if you guys like that joint, make sure you guys. Type it to my playlist, you know, comment below, and I'll send you guys the link and make sure you guys follow me on the grim at Nila Simone.
Starting point is 01:51:06 And make sure you go listen to Nila's music. Nila got ready to die out there, ready to die again from her album. She got a need you from her album. And talking to God. And talking to God from her album, you know, all types of artists on all those records. Marco Plus and Ben Riley and Ruben Vincent
Starting point is 01:51:21 and Wynn is on them. Quayvay. Caj. Nico Brim. Sousa. Quive. Chris Patrick. Period.
Starting point is 01:51:28 Swave, I've been seeing you selling out them shows, man. You need to thank me more Okay? Oh my God I'll be writing this music You always say that I can say it like I stopped for a while
Starting point is 01:51:37 I stopped for a while You start seeing his production slow down a little bit He's just gonna be doing beach for a minute I've been killing though That's his first headline tour So I'll be killing He just headlined his on tour Ben Riley just headlined his on tour
Starting point is 01:51:48 last year too So I can't wait to see what they do You know this coming up year too Luther Swave Mons corner South Carolina's own Okay Slash Atlanta Mons corner South Carolina's own
Starting point is 01:51:59 You were just born there Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, relax. Okay. So what? Am I from Germany? Yes, I tell you that all the time. Anyway. Yes, I tell you that all the time.
Starting point is 01:52:08 Make sure y'all follow me. I just don't want you to get the point, so I don't say it too much. That's it? Yeah. Oh, okay. When we come back, the people's choice mix, these are days like today where Envy should just let Nala do the mix because he's all away in China. But here you go. It's the people's choice mix.
Starting point is 01:52:24 It's the Breakfast Club. Yes, it's the World Most Dangerous Morning and Show the Breakfast Club. DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Shalamey and God. Envy is on his way back from China. Lauren LaRosa is here. It's Lutte Mimee Brown.
Starting point is 01:52:34 She's here as well. You'll be at Del State tonight, right? Yeah, I'll be at Del State tonight. How are you giggling about? You're going to be happy in here. What? What the hell you smile about? It's happening this weekend, right?
Starting point is 01:52:48 We got the Expo. I was actually laughing because, so yeah, I'll be at the, I'll be at Del State tonight. We're kicking off our homecoming this weekend, but we're doing for the love of D.S.U. A Black Excellence Gala. presented by Stay True to my HBCU. And I was naming some of the honorees earlier. So I'm being honored along with Norman Oliver, Eric Dickens, Brian B.Dott Miller,
Starting point is 01:53:10 Sue to B.D. Tara Allen, who is President Tony Allen, the president of Delaware State University's wife and Dawn Tenet. And I'll be bringing some audio and stuff back from that event and from Homecoming Weekend on my podcast, the latest with Lauren the Rosa. So let me sure you guys tune into that as well. I'm going to come show you how they look. Yes. And, um, Jess.
Starting point is 01:53:28 Yo, next week. If you're in the Midwest, Cincinnati, Ohio, your girl, Jesselarius, will be coming there with my brother, Desi Alexander. We haven't been there in about two years or whatever. So make sure you get your tickets. I know you miss us. We'll be at the Funny Bone Comedy Club. Two nights.
Starting point is 01:53:42 We got next Friday, October 16th, and next Saturday, October 17th. Get your tickets at justillarius official.com, y'all. That's right. And listen, slew to my guy, little boss, tomorrow, my man, little boss, North Charleston, South Carolina's own. He'll be coming out with Birdman at the No Limit Cash Money Tour in Columbia. South Carolina at the Colonial Life Arena, man. So salute to my guy, little boss.
Starting point is 01:54:05 Can we get some low balls on? Salute to my man, Trapdickie, too, man. They really putting off in South Carolina right now. Let's play that new record. I'm the man. Sluke our guy, Ferrari Simmons from 96.1 to beat in Atlanta, Georgia. This is actually his record that he put together. So let's get it on right now.
Starting point is 01:54:19 It's Trap Dickie, little boss. You're relaxed. My man saying, let's get it on right now. Tomorrow is the sixth annual Mental Wealth Expo happening into Joel and Diane Bloom. It's an event center in Newark, New Jersey. It is a completely free event. It's open from 11 a.m.
Starting point is 01:54:35 The 4 p.m. My good sister, Debbie Brown, she curated the whole event. So come out tomorrow. Who else is on the lineup? We have... Donnie McClarkin. Shut up. We have...
Starting point is 01:54:45 Paris, Alexandra Arniz, Tierra Banks, Dr. J. Barnett, Dr. Mark Brackett, Dr. Mark Brackett, Elliot Connie, Judge William Dawson, Kier Gaines, Trent Out Loud, Savannah Stevens, Dr. Dr. Julius Thomas. Dr. Ayonlevon.
Starting point is 01:54:58 Lady Ball! That's right. Dr. Rita Walker, Coya Webb, Michelle Williams, and Jovion, Zane will all be in attendance. Remember, it is a free event. Open to all ages and genders. Hey, Charlotte, what's the positive note?
Starting point is 01:55:12 Listen, I want to salute to the Healing Guide on Instagram. One of my favorite pages. They posted something today that I love. They said, when you continue to be irritated by someone who refuses to change, you also refuse to change. I repeat, when you continue to be irritated by someone who refuses to change,
Starting point is 01:55:29 change. You also refuse to change, okay? You can't control someone else's willingness to change, but you can change how much access their behavior has to your piece, all right? Sometimes growth begins when you stop waiting for them to be different and you start choosing your own response. Have a great day. See you tomorrow at the Mental Wealth Expo and we'll also see you back here on Monday. It's the Breakfast Club. Breakfast Club, bitches. Do you all finish or y'all done? Boat up. Wake you up. Wake that ass up. Program your alarm to Power 105.1 on IHeart.
Starting point is 01:55:59 Lisa, tell them about our new show. We have a new podcast. It's called Don't Lie to Me. I'm Lexi Yuwanu. We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart. And I'm Lisa Di Giulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions, and at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. Now in my 30s, being the founder of new shoes, good taste is my business. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get, your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:56:33 I'm Lacey Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creator, and host of Scam Goddess Podcast. The True Crime Comedy Podcasts, all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Each week, I bring on an amazing guest. Ooh, I scammed them. What? I can talk to you for an hour. You're a generational yapper
Starting point is 01:56:49 like me. That's why I had to make yapping a job. And now you can catch full episodes of my show on YouTube. Start listening to Scam Goddess on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, this is Kylie Breakman. Angel Geratana.
Starting point is 01:57:05 Jeremy Colhain. Patrick McDonald. And we're the hosts of the Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists Podcast. The Improvised Character Comedy Podcast where each week a new panel of artists discuss their craft. Join us for a panel of Eurovision participants. And we do a little Halloween sometimes. Does the Pope dress up? He winks on Halloween.
Starting point is 01:57:26 He gets right up next to the microphone. I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other. You never seen Italy so. Quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween. Listen to Artists on Artists on Artists every Thursday on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hamza. And I'm Martin. And we're the hosts of Out of Character.
Starting point is 01:57:46 The funniest podcast in the entire world. I like that. It's a good way to promote ourselves. We are two funny guys having fun enjoying ourselves. And we just know how to have fun, unlike anyone else. If you guys like fun conversations, hot takes. What else? Not too hot.
Starting point is 01:58:05 Just kind of lukewarm. Lukewarm takes. Just to get your mind thinking a little bit. Listen out of character on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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