The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Loren LoRosa Honored at Ebony Power 100, Cardi B & Stefon Diggs Reveal Baby’s Gender + Ms. Pat & Jordan E. Cooper Interview

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Ms. Pat and Jordan E. Cooper talk about their writing partnership, new shows, and thoughts on the government shutdown. Mehdi Hasan also joins us to discuss Zohran Mamdani’s mayoral win, combating hate, and the ongoing shutdown. Plus, Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to CNN’s Van Jones for calling Mamdani’s victory speech ‘divisive.’ Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Good morning, U.S. Hey. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, Joe, yo, yo, Joe, yo, Joe, yo, yo, Joe, yo, yo, Joe, yo, yo, yo, Joe, yo, yo, yo, yeah. Good morning. How ya feel out there? I feel, and highly favorite. We're happy to be here. Another day to serve our beautiful listeners, man. The day after election day. What's happening? What's happening? How you feel? How you feel? How you feel? We got a lot to break down. I'm showing me. He's going to be breaking it down. We got a special guest joining us this morning. That's going to be talking about elections as well, right? Yes. Well, first of all, Jordanie Cooper and Ms. Pat will be here with us this morning.

Right. I'm sure Ms. Pat will have something to say as well, okay? Because season three of Ms. Pat settles it started last night at 10 o'clock Eastern on BETYT. And Mehdi Hassan. Medi Hassan. Medi will be joining us this morning as well to talk about all things Zoran Mundani, I'm sure. And you know what happened last night all across the country, well, not all across the country, but in Virginia, New Jersey, California, California. Even Boston, Cali.

There was a lot going on. Did you stay up later now? Man, I couldn't sleep. I was up. You know, I left CNN. I hosted this CNN election night special last night with a Tesla and Figuero and Kara Swisher was on there, Ben Shapiro, Anna from the Young Turks Network. Who else?

Harry Inter, Isabella. I can't remember Isabella's last name. But I was hosting that. And then when I left, I was just up. I was up. My mind was racing, thinking about a lot of different things, you know what I mean? especially a lot of the stuff that we saw last night. So I was up.

I don't think I only got like three hours of sleep. I was up talking and texting and, you know, my financial advisor is Ugandan. So he called me really, really late last night. And he's on the West Coast. So I answered the phone and he was like, just want you to know he's taking over. He just wants you to know Uganda up right now. Oh, my goodness. So that was interesting.

Yeah, it was a lot to discuss. You know, I love the fact that they talk in politics in school very, very, very early. my daughter didn't know much about it but she didn't know that the governor was an airplane pilot and Mikey Cheryl? Yeah, knew she was a former pilot and they were curious about taxes

that's what they were curious about it. It was like, so how does this tax thing work? I guess they talk about it in school so it was great to break that down and let them watch it. What's up, Jess? What's up? Good morning. You smell good this morning, Jess? Thank you. I smell good every morning, Sharpe. I never noticed. I just noticed this morning. What's up? Yeah, thank you.

Wow. But thank you. You're out here about mom, Dani. Yes Yeah, sure I was happy I was happy about that Because I knew something But why

Because I was the first to know Usually y'all hit the group chat Right And y'all be like yeah Such and such I found out first He was doing CNN I was watching

Yeah but it was an election night special So we was actually watching It didn't matter It didn't matter I hit y'all first I said it first I was like yeah My Donnie one yeah

I seen on TV And he was like I'm gonna call you back I'm doing CNN I know something That's the best I know something All right

Okay. I knew first. All right. Well, let's get the show crack and Mimi will be breaking it down after Jess, you know, because Jess knew it first. But we'll get the weed told Jess. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. We'll get to that next.

It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess hilarious. Shalameen, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Let's get in some front page news.

What's up, Mimi? Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. All right. we start this morning on day 36 of the government shutdown. It is now the officially, it is now

officially the longest U.S. running shutdown in history and the ripple effects are spreading everywhere. So after more than a month without a deal, millions of Americans are feeling the fallout from parents who can't send their kids to preschool, to families struggling to buy groceries, to federal workers missing yet another paycheck. On Capitol Hill yesterday, Senate Democrats once again rejected a short-term funding bill. Now, this is the 14th failed vote so far. A small bipartisan group is trying to find common ground, but in public, both sides are still blaming each other for the shutdown.

Now, majority leader John Thune says Democrats are blocking progress, while minority leader, Chuck Schumer, argues that Republicans are turning their back on working families, especially those who rely on Head Start, WIC, and Snap. Now, across the country, Head Start programs are closing as federal funds dry up, leaving tens and thousands of children without early learning, hot meals, or a safe space while their parents work. And some teachers have also been furloughed and many parents are scrambling to find child care they can no longer afford. And then yesterday morning, President Trump adding more fuel to that fire, posting on true social that no federal food benefits would go out until Democrats agreed to reopen the government. He wrote SNAP benefits will be given only when the radical left Democrats open up the government and not before.

Now, that sparked confusion and panic among families struggling to buy food. Hours later, the White House facing tough questions about what the president really meant. Let's listen to that. The administration is fully complying with the court order. I just spoke to the president about it. The recipients of these snap benefits need to understand it's going to take some time to receive this money because the Democrats have forced the administration into a very untenable position. We are digging into a contingency fund that is supposed to be for,

emergencies, catastrophes for war. And the president does not want to have to tap into this fund in the future. And that's what he was referring to in his true social post. So the Department of Agriculture, as for the latest SNAP payment in the judge's order, put out guidance to states today on how to get that money to the recipients of SNAP. But it's going to take some time. It's time to open the government back up, y'all. Dems, you had a great night last night. The premiums have already gone up. They are set for the year. It's time to move on. We appreciate the fight, the valiant effort. But come on, man. People got rent due. People got child care

to pay for, light bills, card notes. I feel for all those federal workers who have missed two paychecks already, especially when most of them are living paycheck to paycheck. People are not getting their snap benefits. It's time to reopen the government. I don't care who's fault it was. Let's stop playing politics with people's lives. People mad at you for saying that. They feel like

Democrats will fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight. But what's the reason you're saying the fight is over? The fight is over because the premiums have already gone up and they're set for the year. And now you have a whole group of people with your federal workers who have already missed two paychecks. So I understand that, you know, you don't want high health care premiums, but what about people who can't pay their rent

right now? Right about people who can't pay their cardinals right now? People who can't pay their daycare. I don't care who's fault it is or was. Let's stop playing politics with people's lives, man. Let's reopen the government. We can still have this fight about health care while the government is open. And why are people upset that he's saying that? Because it's saying like the Democrats are giving up and they just give in to what the Republicans are doing. But what he's saying is

is the premiums already got to a point where you're fighting for really fighting for not much of anything. And Republicans are not going to be back up so people can pay their bills. Republicans are not going to get these people no concessions. They're just not. Like they are cool with letting people starve. Democrats can't be the party that is cool with letting people starve.

He just said it. He said that, hey, I don't care what just passed today. I ain't opening it back up. I ain't doing it until they open this country back up. They don't care. You can't eat. You can't pay your bills. You can't do this.

Hey, you on your own. I ain't do enough. to the Democrats over this company. It's just crazy. They play the game of people's lives. Democrats have to care. They're the party of the people, right? The party of the working class, right?

They have to care. Yeah. And really quickly, there's another dire warning that's still coming from the Transportation Secretary, Sean Duffy, who says some parts of the country could see airspace shut down and air traffic controllers as they go without another check, they're still calling in sick.

Let's listen to what he had to say. On Thursday, they get an email pay stub that will show what their next payment is going to be. So this Thursday, they'll get an email that shows that their pay stub is a big fat zero. Many of the controllers said a lot of us can navigate missing one paycheck. Not everybody, but a lot of us can. None of us can manage missing two paychecks. So if you bring us to a week from today, Democrats, you will see mass chaos, you will see mass flight delays, you'll see mass cancellations, and you may see us close certain parts of the airspace because we just cannot manage it because

we don't have the air traffic controllers now. The airlines are going to be what gets this country back reopened. I just want you to know that. They may not care about the cries of the people, but they're going to care about the cries from them billionaire airlines. That's right. Yep. Yeah, absolutely.

All right. Well, coming up at 7, actually, there are some retailers who are doing things to make your holiday season a little bit brighter and a lot more cheaper. We'll talk a little bit about that. Holidays? We're talking holidays at a time like this? But this is good holidays. This is to help keep money in your pocket holidays.

Okay. All right. Christmas might be canceled this year, y'all. I've got a feeling. You know how you ever heard somebody say, I've canceled Christmas? This might be the year. Might be doing it this year.

Get it off your chest. 800-585-105-105.1. If you need the vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-58-105-105-1. Call us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

Break it up. time to get it off your chest. Chief calling. 800-585-105-1. We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello, who's this? Good morning. This is Deborah.

How are you all? How are you doing this morning? Heath Devorah? It is, pronounced DeBora. How are you, Devorah? Uncle Ray. Just one, Warner. Just congratulating, thank you all you,

PJ, Envy, and Jess for just being one of, to me, one of the best morning radio station that I've heard in a long time. No disrespect to anything. the others. But also, I just want to thank you and want to know, because I'm in Georgia, and I have a child that's mentally ill, but I can't never get to your show that you all have for a mental illness. I believe in October. I'm raising my grandchildren, and I went to school to all the grandmothers. I thought I'm raising their grandchildren. So I have two that's in college, and I'm grateful

and I'm thankful, but I'm not just taking a second job to try to help. Because both of them are in college, the girls are in college. Where you're from? Where you live at? Georgia. Georgia? I'm in Georgia. I'm in Georgia. I'm in Georgia.

So, listen, next year, I'm going to get your information. Next year we're going to try to find a way to get you at the Mental Welfth Expo in October. You and you and some of your people. I was going to talk to emotional. I just, Thank you.

I've been trying to get there, everyone is. I can't get this. It's a little too hard. We'll get you there, Mom. Yeah, I'm going to put you on hold. I'm going to get your info, and we're going to figure that out for next October. She's on 9-7, Eddie. Eddie, get her info.

Don't keep her on hold for a long time. You're here on the phone. She's driving, clearly. Got something to do. Hello, who's this? Hey, what's up? Lamar calling from Charleston, South Carolina. 843.4-3.

8-4-3. What's up? What's up? What's up? DJ, NV. Shal of me. Yes. What's up, baby?

How you don't? Doing good. I just want to say, man, blessed. And I'm a truck driver. You know, I'm just to feel bad for the federal government

and employees who's not working right now. Just want them open up where to open up the government, you know, yes. And, oh, yeah,

one thing, Jess, I've been to your show in Charlotte on November 1st. Oh, yeah? How do you like it? I ain't, I can lie,

Jess. You put it on the show. I got to come to the next one. Yeah, you do. That's what's up. I appreciate that, man. If you've seen one, you've seen them all. Damn, what?

Wow. You know what I'm saying? Wow. Wow. He's a hate it, y'all. Thank you, brother. Damn. Get it off your chest.

I didn't see about 10 of them, you know what I'm saying? 5.8. It's not the same. It's not the same. No, it's actually not. I'll be honest with you. It's really not. Because I remember when I first saw Jess at Caroline's Comedy Club

probably almost 10 years ago. Right. And her whole set was about a couple of, a couple of chrises ago. And, um, it was. It was about a whole, about a whole other relationship. And Ashton, it was different. It was a lot different.

Yeah. He said a whole part of three Christos ago. Call us up right now is the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk.

I hate the way that you dress. Everything with me is blessed. Call up next 800 585151 I'm with the coach of Philly Hello who's this Hey I'm gonna remain anonymous Why we can't see you

You can say your name is Jill Scott for all we know Nah nah nah nah I ain't gonna say my name Let me tell you what happened What happened? I worked with your airline And I got injured on the clock And then the doctor said I can go back to work

You know manager Don't want to let me come back to work I'm 100% But the doctor said you are never be 100%. Ain't that stupid? No. So basically you saying

you ain't trying to ever go back to work because the doctor said you ain't never going to be 100%. So you ain't never going back to work. No, I want to go back to work.

I want to go back to work. But they have this dumb ass 100-heeled policy that don't exist that they want to use. But they've got sued for it. I haven't called top dog law. You called top dog law?

What they said at top dog law? My impairment rating was too low so they can't take my thing. Oh, damn. So what you're going to got to do. What are you going to do in the meantime time?

I got to keep calling lawyers because the airline's got a history of when people get injured on the clock and let's say they're not going to ever be 100%. They want to push them back and try to make them quit. I ain't quit it for my job. I work two damn hard to even get

that job. I agree, man. I'm shocked. It might not be a good paying job. But I'm still going to try to get my job. I've been calling lawyers and everything. But this manager she also kind of races too. We're going to have Lauren LaRosa reach out to do that. top dog law for you, man.

You know, she got a, she, she got a different relationship with them. So we're going to have her reach out and see what she can do for you, man. All right. Yeah, I'm lying. He's lying. He's not even got your name. He's been talking this morning. I'm sorry, Mama.

No, I am going to do something for the lady at the mental health. Well, I can't do nothing for this young lady right here. I'm just being honest. It just sounds good to say. You know what I mean? I'm going to have Lauren reach out. I don't even have a name. Lying.

Hello, who's this? Hello? Hey, what's your name, Mama? Good morning. My name is and I'm from Jacksonville. What's up? Good morning, Mama. Get it off your chest.

First before I get into it, my son wants to say good morning, Charlamagne, the guys. Good morning. Peace, Young King. How you doing, brother? Good. Good to talk to you this morning, man. You're doing it right by your mama?

Yes. All right, you better. You only got one. Always treat her with honor and respect, okay? Yes, sure. Yeah, right. All right, guys. So I am an active duty military member,

and we have been dragged right and left with this government shutdown. as far as whether we're getting paid or not getting paid, if we're able to transfer to our next duty stations or not, or if we're on hold at another command. And I believe that all this is just a display of power from the Republican side. The Dems have done nothing that they were standing firm on, and it is just dragging way too long. And like, see, you keep saying, people aren't getting paid.

We can't keep going without people getting paid. So a lot of people are furloughed in positions that could help people find payments or find money or find food banks, because military members are in need of those things too. So I don't think the government is thinking about the military members who can't afford food, who can't afford their car payments? They can't get their kids to daycare. They're not.

And by the way, it's just a bipartisan effort. I don't care who's fault it was. I just know that it takes a bipartisan effort to get it back open. We got to stop playing politics with people's lives for all the reasons that you just said. How many paychecks have you missed? We haven't missed any paychecks because they keep finding billions of dollars somewhere. However, if we could send $20 billion, to Argentina, we can pay these air traffic

controllers, what they were. Damn right. I'm with you. So, no, that's just what I wanted to get off my chest. Thank you guys so much. We listen to y'all every morning. We love y'all. Have it today. Thank you, too, now. Get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1. Now we got the latest with Lauren coming up. What are we talking about, Lauren?

Good morning, y'all. Why you still got your dress on from last night? She do not. It's not my dress, but I do still got my makeup on because just got home not too long ago. So this is the face, but I don't got the dress. I'm actually wearing actively black right now. And you wore that on the red carpet? I saw you that none of the red carpet.

It looked like you had that same thing on last night. Wow. I'm actually about to post my photos from the red carpet, and it's eaten down, so don't do me. Okay? We're going to talk about the red carpet, too. Who's actively black for doing your dress last night? Tell them where you were. Tell them where you were.

Because people don't know where you were. Last night, I was at the Ebony. I know, stupid. Last night, I was here in L.A. at the Ebony Power 100 gala. Why? Tell them why, Lauren. Because I was honored as a media maven. Okay, okay, okay.

That's what's up, girl. Yes, it was a good, I got some clips I talked to some people yesterday I talked to the cast of girlfriends Clarissa Shields It was a great night So I'm gonna be bringing to you guys The cast of girlfriends

Yes Let me tell y'all I'm gonna save it for the latest Because yeah okay I'm very proud of you too We'll get to the ladies left Well I'm proud because I didn't think She was gonna make it

I'm like she gonna be drinking She can be drunk There's no way she gonna make it Make it here I want you to know I've been here Celebrating Epney Power 100 for three days

And I've made it 2 a.m. every single day. She put the bottle down. She ain't the alcoholic that she once was when she started here. That's one thing she's been tired.

I just seen that Hampton Homecoming and she missed her flight, bro. That was about two days. That was different. I was off work and I was enjoying myself. You have stopped drinking.

You have not like drank as much. Y'all just took shots last week in the morning. That was because my book dropped, yo. That was why exactly. We were celebrating her book every way to eat her.

We'll get to the ladies with Lauren next. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Morning everybody. It's D.E.J. N. V. Jess Larias, Sholomey, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren.

Lauren becoming a free fat. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets to detail. I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on this. The latest with Lauren La Rosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit everything. Well, it's the latest.

On the breakfast club. Talk to me. All right, y'all, so last night here, L.A. was the Ebony Power 100 gala, went down at the Beverly Hill and Hotel. I was there because I was honored as a media maven for the work that I do with you guys here at the Breakfast Club. Drawing the club for Lauren LaRosa. Hold on.

Let's celebrate you for a second. Drawing on a clue bond for L.L. Cool bait. Okay. Brandico Binks. And also for the latest with Lauren La Rosa, the podcast on the Black Effect podcast network as well. Absolutely. Yes.

So there was a lot of people there. Like I ran into so many people. I saw Mario, a ton of people. Like Baltimore, Mario? Yes. And we talked to him too because I had to talk to him about that Kim, the interview he did with Kim, which we were I'm getting to later in the show. But on the red carpet, because the theme of the night was honoring heroes of the black community for 80 years.

So you had, I mean, entertainment, legends spanning from, like, new to like, you know, icons. I mean, the model was honored last night as she got the icon of work. But on the red carpet, I ran into some of my hero. Rose, okay? The cast of girlfriends. So the first people I was able to speak to last night was Golden Brooks, Jill Marie Jones, Persia White, and Tracy Ellis Ross, the cast of girls' friends. Let's take a listen to them on the red carpet. Hey, I'm Golden Brooks and you're here. I'm here with Ebony 100. Okay, I'm Jill Marie Jones. I'm so excited to be here at Ebony. I mean, we were talking about it earlier, Golden and myself, about just how impactful the Ebony Magazine was growing up.

Seeing the beautiful melanated beauties on the covers. Also, too, to celebrate Tracy Ellis Ross, our sister. So we're just having a great time. We are. And for us to come together as girlfriends, it's always a treat. I'm Persia White from Girlfriends, aka. Lynn. And you know how re-spirited I am? So I am just feeling all the love.

I'm feeling too much love. Oh! Oh, my God. My girlfriend. What? What's happening your business? I'm getting audio. What's happening here?

So at the end of the audio, what you're hearing, I literally go in to try and get another question from them. And Tracy Ellis Ross walks up. So I'm with Golden Brooks, Jill Marie Jones, and Persia White. And then Tracy Ellis Ross walks up. So you literally see the girlfriend's cast Unite on the red carpet. And I'm standing in the middle of them because I'm on the red carpet walking the carpet as talent. and I just started interviewing people. So I'm sitting in the middle of them

and I'm like, I don't even know what I'm supposed to do right now because I'm all in y'all mix. So you heard them get excited to see Tracy Ellis Ross because they didn't know she was coming on the carpet. So I was in that moment. Yes.

And they did- All the girlfriends, man. Drop on the clues bonds for all the girlfriends. Us real girlfriends fans still need closure and we will never stop saying we need closure until we get it. Period. Well, yeah.

I don't know. Hopefully we get that. It is 25 years of girlfriend. and Tracy Alice Ross talks a little bit about that later on in the show. She won the Pathbreaker of the Year Award. But before we get to that, I also, on the red carpet or leading off of the red carpet, ran into Clarissa Shields and have some questions for her. Let's take a listen to Clarissa.

All right, y'all. I'm here with The Quote at Ebony Power 100. Congratulations. Thank you. I am so honored to be here and be here with Lauren. Shout to the Breakfast Club for always showing me so much love. And we are here tonight to celebrate all black excellence. You know, Charleman and I've been saying that y'all are revving up this fight.

Like, this is all staged. Oh, no, I don't feel like that. But I do have a big announcement coming Thursday with my career. I've been begging you for an exclusive. Yeah, are you going to, have they invited you out to the luncheon on that? On the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night. Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Wally, a double board certified physician. And I'm Hurricane de Bolu, comedian and someone who once Googled,

Do I have Scurvy at 3 a.m? On health stuff, we're talking about health in a different way. It's not only about what we can do to improve our health, but also what our health says about us and the way we're living. Like our episode where we look at diabetes. In the United States, I mean, 50% of Americans are pre-diabetic. How preventable is type 2? Extremely.

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She said, Johnny. The kids didn't come home last night. Along the central Texas plains, teens are dying. Suicides that don't make sense. Strange accidents. And brutal. murders. In what seems to be, a plot ripped straight out of breaking bad. Drugs, alcohol, trafficking of people.

There are people out there that absolutely know what happened. Listen to Paper Ghosts, the Texas Teen Murders, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Robert Smith. This is Jacob Goldstein. And we used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History. about the best ideas and people and businesses in history. And some of the worst people, horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history of business. Having a genius idea without a need for it is nothing. It's like not having it at all.

It's a very simple, elegant lesson. Make something people want. First episode, How Southwest Airlines Use Cheap Seats and Free Whiskey to fight its way into the airline business. The Most Texas Story Ever. There's a lot of mavericks in that story. We're going to have mavericks on the show. We're going to have plenty of robber barons. So many robber barons.

And you know what? They're not all bad. And we'll talk about some of the classic great moments of famous business geniuses, along with some of the darker moments that often get overlooked. Like Thomas Edison and the electric chair. Listen to business history on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Here we go. Hey, I'm Cal Penn.

And on my new podcast, here we go again. We'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself? You may know me as the second hottest actor from the Harold and Kumar movies, but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and as of like 15 seconds ago, a podcast host. Along the way, I've made some friends who are experts in science, politics, and pop culture. And each week, one of them will be joining me to answer my burning questions. Like, are we heading towards another financial crash like in 08? Is non-monogamy back in style? And how come there's never a gate ready for your flight when it lands like two minutes early?

We've got guests like Pete Buttigieg, Stacey Abrams, Lili Singh, and Bill Nye. When you start weaponizing outer space, things can potentially go really wrong. Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now, because it is. But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to Here We Go Again with Cal Penn on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Big Take podcast from Bloomberg News dives deep into one big global business story every weekday. A shutdown means we don't get the data, but it also means for President Trump that there's no chance of bad news on the labor market. What does a bacon, egg, and cheese sandwich reveal about the economy?

Our breakfast foods are consistent consumer staples, and so they have. sort of become outsize indicators of inflation. What's behind Elon Musk's trillion-dollar payout? There's a sort of concerted effort to message that Musk is coming back. He's putting politics aside. He's left the White House. And what can the PCE tell you that the CPI can't? CPI tries to measure out-of-pocket costs that consumers are paying for things,

whereas the PCE index that the Fed targets is a little bit broader of a measure. Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thursday? We don't know nothing about a girl. I'll be telling you all the time. Don't nobody tell us nothing? I'm going to DM you, send me your email, and I will have them send you a personal invite.

First of all, my announcement has everything to do with black excellence, black success. Are you starting your own promotional company because you can try to figure out one? Listen, it is big. It is really big. And I can't wait to announce it on Thursday. It's going to be really big. You're going to be happy you came, I promise. Okay.

Can't wait to head with Clarissa got a purpose. Yes, I'll be there Thursday. She'll be wearing sleeves. She's not her. I did ask her about Shadasia too, but she, it was nothing, nothing there. She didn't give me nothing much. But in the award show, so Tracy Alice Russell, well, first of all, Clarissa Shale, shout out to her.

She was, she made the Ebony Power 100 list as a leader in sports. So congratulations to her for that. And that's why she was there with Pappooz. Got to meet him yesterday as well. but inside of the award show as people were winning their awards of course there were some amazing acceptance speeches Tracy Ellis Ross was honored as

Pathbreaker of the year the award was actually presented to her by the cast of girlfriends which is why they were there let's take a listen to Tracy Ellis Ross Golden, Jill, and Persia thank you for your hilarity your brilliance for what we built together, how

we show up for each other after all these years and I just love you so much. Also, could Would they be any hotter? This year marks the 25th anniversary of Girlfriends, by the way. 172 episodes of television that I am so proud of. Thank you, Ebony, for celebrating our stories and for naming me as Pathbreaker. Okay, well, it started with Girlfriends and then King Blackish.

And while all this is happening, I spent a decade building pattern beauty. Earlier this year, I launched solo traveling with Tracy Ellis Ross on the Roku channel. I tell you all of us to say, please do not wait for something or someone in order to experience all that's possible for your life. Yes. Now, as we close, speaking of not waiting, Tiana Taylor was, I would say she was one of the best speeches of the night. She opened, she was like one of the first awards to come up. But entertainer of the year, and you talk about somebody who like literally has made their own way. watched her navigate her career and figure out those opportunities listen to a tiana taylor accept her award for entertainer of the year which was presented by taraji taraji i love you

sister thank you so much i appreciate you thank you for always being in first Thessalonians 518 say give thanks in all circumstances for this is god's will for you in christ jesus and that one is different for me tonight because god he is the author and he is the me mediator. The one who wrote my story before I even knew I'd be standing here tonight. Father God, in the name of Jesus, you gave me the strength when I was tired. You gave me the strength when I was scared. You gave me the ability to check myself when I doubt myself. All my family and friends that I love and respect so much, thank you for loving me the way you do. God, in the name of Jesus, gets all the glory. And y'all, tonight, get all my love. Thank you, Ebony, for the amazing honor.

I'm so honored to be here. Amen, Tiana. Drop on a clue about Sianna Taylor. I was waiting for her to say, all my life I had to fight you. Hey, y'all. Yeah, it was very emotional. I said, yeah, it was definitely deep, definitely deep.

Yes, but shout out to everybody that was there. There was a lot of people that were honored. Shack took home entrepreneur of the year. Shack was there? Yeah, Shaq was there. Amazing. Yes, that was nothing, too, that I was so excited about. because a lot of times

when we do things for like us like black media people, we complain that people don't show up when I say people showed up I mean Shaq was there

I was at the table with Waleigh Scott Evans from house guests Taraji as you guys I love Katow so many big names were there like everybody showed up

people Ari Lennox performed people that you didn't think would possibly show up when you saw them listed on the roster they were there they showed out

so you know congratulations to Ebby on another successful year and thanks for the honor y'all. I'm excited to be on the list. That's so dope. Congratulations again. And happy birthday to Ike Turner. He would have been 94 today.

So, happy birthday, Ike. And continue to rest. All right. Now, when we come back, we got front page news. And then Ms. Pat and Jordan E. Cooper will be joining us. So don't go anywhere.

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ and V. Jolari and Sholamina Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back at some front page news. What's up, me?

Good morning, M.V. Jess Chaldemand. How y'all doing this morning? Good, girl. Good. All right, so we start this hour with election results. A big night for Democrats filled with history, making wins from coast to coast. Now, in New York City, Zoran Mondani, he did what you expected, defeating former governor, Andrew Cuomo, to become the city's next mayor.

Now, more than 2 million people cast their ballots in a race that began as a long shot. Mondani climbed from the bottom to the top of the polls to score an upset victory in both the primary and the general election. Let's listen to some of his victory speech from last night. New York, tonight you have delivered a mandate for change, a mandate for a new kind of politics. A mandate for a city we can afford. New York will remain a city of immigrants, a city built by immigrants, powered by immigrants. And as of tonight, led by an immigrant.

So Donald Trump, since I know you're watching, I have four words for you. Turn the volume up. Mom, Donnie got a lot to say that he said he was going to do. He said it was going to be free MTA, that people are going to ride the buses for free. Damn. He said he was going to create a citywide universal child game program for children six weeks to five years. He said he was going to do city-run grocery stores where people can actually buy.

groceries at wholesale prices. He said he was going to do rent stabilization for people so their rent won't go up. He got a lot to do. So how long you think they're going to give them? How long is that? He got a little bit. How long is the honeymoon phase? Because you know how people do. He gets sworn in January, they're going to want all this done by Black History Month. Y'all know that, right?

I'm just telling you. He said he'll build 200,000 new homes for people. He got, he said, he promised people a lot. He made a lot of his promises. I'm telling you, I just wonder how long are people going to give him, because they're going to be expecting all of these things. Well, he talked about that

in his speech. He said there's high expectations and he was going to keep all of those expectations and do everything. He said that last night. Now, if Donald Trump got anything to do with it? Listen, I don't want you all to know that the government overreach from the Trump administration is going to be insanity. The White House tweeted out last night, the New York Nick logo, and it said, Trump is your

president in the shape of the New York Nick logo. Did you see that? Yeah, I did. Like, Zoron is going to be Donald Trump's public enemy number one, you know, for the next year because he's going to make him the face of the Democratic Party and But everybody feel like, if this is what y'all go out and vote for in the midterms, y'all going to get this socialism.

Watch. Y'all going to get this communism. Watch. He promised a lot. I hope he could come through with all the things that he promised. But he promised a lot. And let's see if you can make good on all the things that he promised. Absolutely.

Well, that wasn't the only headline of the night. There were major wins also across the country in New Jersey. Congresswoman Mikey Cheryl, she defeated Republican Jack Chittarelli to become the state's next governor. And in Virginia, former congresswoman. Abigail Spanberger. She made history becoming the first woman ever elected governor of the Commonwealth. Yep. And out in California, voters overwhelmingly approved Proposition 50. That's Governor Gavin Newsom's plan to allow the legislature to redraw congressional maps and add several Democrat leaning seats before the 2026 midterms. Now, I spoke with California Assembly member Isaac G. Brian just after those results came in here in California. And he represents black communities like, Crenshaw, Baldwin, Hills, Lederah Heights. And he says Prop 50 isn't just a win for Democrats, but it's a stand against efforts to dilute the black vote.

Let's listen to that. Prop 50 will help us restore the balance of power in Congress. Donald Trump called down in Texas and told Governor Greg Abbott that he was entitled to five additional congressional seats. Here in California, we re-re drew our maps to offset the harm coming out of Texas and add five additional Democratic seats, effectively nullifying that. ask of Donald Trump. But we had to meet fire with fire in this moment. It's, we're past the days of, uh, of turning the other cheek or, or choosing a moral high ground that doesn't really

exist. When they go low, we've got to squabble up. Now that right there, I'm going to be honest with you, me out of all of the things I saw last night, I'm not even going to front. That might be my number one because it took a lot of political courage that I didn't think Democrats had to actually do that. Yeah, they did that. And as Gavin Newsom pointed out, they did it in a 90 day sprint, right? Like they galvanize everybody and they were able to bring out the vote. And even like the long lines that you saw in New York, we had long lines

here in California. And so, you know, it was overwhelmingly passed. So people really want to make sure that the balance of power is fair as we head into the midterm election. So you think, you think Texas is going to do it now? Do you think Texas is going to go ahead with? Okay. Oh, yeah. And other

states are also going to do it. I mean, I don't know where this will end because people will continue to you know, redraw maps in order to kind of balance out the midterm election. So we'll see what happens because I don't think this is the end of it. We'll continue to see more. And then what you were just speaking about, some of the exit polls were showing that the economy topped the list of the most concerns for voters.

So in all three major races, people are more concerned about the price of the living, not being able to afford their bills. And so as you vote, they ask you questions about, you know, why you were here, what you wanted to see, and the economy was number one for most people. So, and now to a story that is still developing this morning, a UPS cargo plane crashed just after takeoff at an airport in Kentucky. At least seven people are dead and several others are hurt. After the plane loaded with thousands of gallons of jet fuel, it went down near two businesses, setting off a massive fire and sending thick smoke into the sky. Now, officials say, yeah, officials say two workers from a nearby auto shop are still missing and a shelter in place order remains in effect for now.

neighborhoods around the airport investigators from the FAA, the NTSB, are on the scene this morning looking for what caused the crash, but early reports suggest that there may have been an engine problem during takeoff. Now, Kentucky's governor, he called it a catastrophic

crash and says a number of victims still could rise as they search through that wreckage. That's horrible, man. They say they don't know how it happened, right? Yeah, they don't know yet. They're still investigating. Oh, Lord. I know.

God bless those people, man. And then healing energy to their families, man. God bless their souls, man. That's horrible. All right, y'all. Well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown TV.

For more stories, follow the Black Information Network. Download the free IHeartRadio app and follow or check out BIN News.com. All right. Thank you, Mimi. Thank you. Now, when we come back, Ms. Pat and Jordan E. Cooper will be joining us. Season 3 of Ms. Pat Settles It is out right now. We're going to talk to them next.

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody, it's D-E-J-N-V. Just hilarious, I'm the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. We have Jordan E. Cooper and one of my favorite people in the world.

Miss Pat, ladies and gentlemen, welcome. Hey, hey, man. As much as I can afford to die shot, oh, hey, man. What do you are like? I was looking good fat. Yes. I never walked in here looking wrong. What are you talking about?

You never had to pull her. no two couches for me big shot my shit is a proportionate I told me that my neighbor do not connect I love your head you're looking like Big Glow with it I know I love Glorilla

I want to meet her I know everybody like you look like Glorilla mama I wish like hell I had Glorella I wish she was the baby I killed then God got me back and made that B. Famed That's why you should be careful about the babies you kill You might kill a LeBron James Damn

You never know Glorilla reminds me so much of me When I was young I was even fine like a not as small You know before that old little Shut up gentlemen I ain't say nothing I've seen you about to game

No I was not I just want you to know that my vagina ain't always sick I mean, my stomach has not always set on my vagina. At once in my life, I can wear a two-piece. And not chicken. Yo, she catches me. I know Ms. Patrick's fine. It's bad fine now.

I'm all right. I'm married. I've been married for 32 years, so he ain't complaining. So whatever he pulled into the side and lifting, he has it. No, I'll be seeing them skinny nits in your comments. They do. But they're not going to make me pay him my money. I'm going to be right there with my husband until the end.

There you go. You're still sleeping in a separate bedroom again? Yeah, that shit is delicious. delicious, too. You will I mean? I got somewhere to lay my kiddie at on the pillow. Hey, I ain't got listening to him. I'm past guys. I'm telling you, if you've been married in a relationship long time, you do not have to sleep next to these

men. Get your own room. You get tired of this, rubbing on you in the middle of the night. You know, you got to... I don't know most women, like, I don't go to bad sexy. I just get in the bed. I'm one of the people, I can't stand and take a bath at night because I don't want to be dapped in the morning. What? You don't want to be damp.

Why is you damn? Flying dish or damn in the morning Because I'm fat and I'm a little sweat Yeah, I'm always leaking Why you don't wash? I do, I wash it in the morning So I'd be fresh Yeah, I need my stuff

24 hours fresh I'm in the morning I can't have I just don't like that shit I don't put on lingerie I don't do it You know I go to bed And if we're gonna do it

And if you don't And if you don't, excuse me You won't have sex If you don't, you know I just go to bed If we can save money In the wintertime no Wow.

Because you keep them warm, like laying next to him? Boy, I got me a heated blanket. Oh, okay. Okay. Plus, I have a full-side bed in my room. He has a king. He likes a hard matcher. I like a soft match.

But I've been married for 13 years. I don't have on a full-size mattress? What you're wrong to say? You're not trying to say that. You meant to say that? You meant to say that? I wouldn't even have said no shit like that. Because I thought about it, but I ain't said.

I was like, just a full-slash- queen. Oh, okay. A full-slash- queen. I was waiting now, so I feel a little bit more balance. God, damn, I'm sorry, you got that twin body, bitch. She got that twin body. She's throwing shots, ain't she? I never said I slept on no twin.

I'm not, you know. Twin bad body crazy. Jordan, how are you doing with her all day long? I don't. Okay. Y'all, she's a fool. Whatever we're on set, she'd just be acting up. We were just talking about this.

I was like, there's got to be at least 1,700 thoughts that come to your brain that you've got to stop before they come out your mouth because you know it's going to set a five. In this industry, I do. I have to watch what I say. Because, you know, you walk into these meetings and you'd be like, you'd be going to say, what the fuck you're weighing, white man? Damn.

Joy, what did you understand about Ms. Pat's voice and her story that others might have missed earlier. I think just letting her be authentic. You know, I always say when we created the Miss Pass show, I wanted to create the first sitcom that I felt like would have that death jam comedy vibe where it's like you could be uncensored because there's so many that came before her

like the Red Foxes and the Richard Pryor's and who had a show for three seconds, you know what I mean, who couldn't be themselves. Bernie Mac couldn't really be himself on the Bernie Mac show, but when he got on stage, he could say, I ain't scared you, you know what I mean? So I wanted to create a sitcom that allowed her to just be. But she could say whatever she wanted to say,

do whatever she wanted to do, do and we could have a hard conversation and let her say her unfiltered self yeah yeah uh how did your kids get on um an episode like did you you want it no so my kids on episode of the judge show which airs this week and my somebody dropped out right so they these are people who have real cases or whatever fucking on friends dispute my kids a case dropped out and literally i did not know they was going to walk through that door so you didn't know your kids right sure she had no idea I had no idea, but they did go to the strip club. And my son did spend my gay daughter money, but never would get it back.

And they've been arguing over this for a whole year. And I was like, well, why would you give a broke some money at the gate, I mean, at the strip club? And so, he didn't pay her back, and it became a case. And when I heard Lay versus Lay, I said, this might be my baby daddy. I said, I'm going to put it to this. And it walked in with my kids. Damn. So how did you approach the case?

Did you approach it as Ms. Pat or as Dad Mama? I approached it both ways because I couldn't believe. I couldn't believe they were suing each other. when I had just got my daughter T-fix and she didn't pay me back but she wanted her brother to pay her back and I'm like all y'all owe me money so why nobody I put them out

I paid $8,500 get your mouth fixed and flew you to Guadamo Bay where the hell she went to get her teeth? Yeah okay yeah because they were rough but they look good now was it an agreement putting in place like you need to pay me back for this oh some reason my kids don't think

especially them first two than my Medicaid kids, they don't think they're supposed to pay me back. You're a Medicaid kid. Yeah, those are the one I gave her on Medicaid.

Oh, okay. You just fought on Medicaid too, no. I'm sure. I don't know. You've been killing me in this fucking. So wait, Jordan,

you're 30 years old now, right? Yeah, 30. 30. Hey, Jordan, the genius, by the way. I was all my f***es like to throw that word around, but I do. John's the genius.

You know what? It's nothing like this kid. It was so, and we don't told this story several times how we met, But when I first laid eyes on him, I was like, this is a black woman, a fat black woman trapped in a gay man body. That's the first thing I said about him. I said, you died as a fat black woman and came back as a gay man because he gets me.

Like, I mean, immediately, we just connected. And I couldn't do that with no other writer that I had. Nobody would listen to me. And it's nothing like dealing with a writer and they're writing a story about you. and that writer think that they're funnier than you. You can't out funny me, my fucking when I'm talking about me or I'm talking about something that's coming from my head. And when I met Jordan, I said, hey, I got an idea,

but nobody would listen to me. He said, what was it? I said, I sat on an airplane and talk to white people and see why they're so racist. And that's all I had to say. And that was the pilot. Yeah. South West.

Remember Southwest? You said anywhere? So I would literally block the seat off and I wanted to talk to white men to see why the fuck they think the way they do. I would have racist conversation about race. And I told him that, and that's how that airplane came out. So if you saw that airplane, that's a trap setting.

Like, they came in the way. So if you see the pilot, what we do is the very first episode of this past show, it's hers. It starts off with her doing stand-up. And as she's, oh, thank you. And as she finishes the set, like the airplane kind of comes in around her. And then before you know, we're dropped in the scene. And she's talking to this white woman about black kids being shot and being a black mom and stuff. A really cool way.

Ms. Pat, you know I'm supposed to have been on an episode or multiple episodes of Ms. Pat Settlesa, but I got a phone call, right? Like, right, like, right after paperwork was done and all of that, right? Saying that I could no longer be on the show for a few episodes because of a comment that I had made. And the comment was literally, literally verbatim, only women can have babies. I said that, you know, and I asked. asked was that, was that what got them to, you know, revoke my opportunity to be on your show? And they say, yes. Well, you know what?

A lot of times when they do stuff, and I'm going to be honest with you, because I knew you was going to ask me this. Of course, you know, so I'm going to ask, you know, they didn't come to us and say that. Well, they just said, we're going to go into, BET said no. So when I asked you to do it, and no matter who I pick in this room, the networks still have to approve it. And they check out everything. So I guess that conversation came up, and then they decided to say, no. It's nothing I can do when it's their money.

I came in and said, I want you on my show. I went back and told them, I want you on my show. But then they, all they said, B, T, said no. Yeah, I knew it wasn't you. Yeah. Because the person who even called me said that you fought for, like, you really was like, no, I want her on the show, you know, and you said that more than once. But they just, they told me that that was the reason why.

And I'm like, oh, all right, well, do she know that? Can she, you know what I'm saying? Like, did y'all talk to her or did you all what was her feedback? like y'all don't care that that's our show she want me on it and then it's just bogus for a for a statement like that that i couldn't come and do miss pat settles that i was really upset about that but you do understand why people were why why people were like all up in arms about that absolutely i understand but that don't mean what i say it was not true you know what i think no i think it's only because of only because of there are trans men there are people who identify as men out there who like had babies so they're like

oh i have a baby too but i don't necessarily consider myself a woman so then it's it, like, exits me out of the conversation. It's like, that was it. It was the fact that there were people who don't identify as women who are like, no, I have babies. I do childbirth, but I just feel offended because I'm not a...

Let me get you a piece of advice from having a gay daughter. Let people be who of the fuck they want to be. Don't tell them people they can't have no baby. If they say they can have a baby, let them have a baby. I grew up with a lot of people who say whatever the fuck they was in.

Whatever you are, that's who I respect you as being. I just, me personally, I don't put myself in those conversations. If you say you're a woman, then you're a fucking woman. You got on my shoes, you got on my dress. I'm mad because your makeup is better than mine. Other than that, I don't get a shit.

You can look like Charlemagne with a wig. And Charlemagne want to be, shut the hell up. If he want to be Shala today, then fine. I mean, just don't argue with them. Because let them allow them to be whatever they want to be. And that's just life. But also, I think it's because I always look at this, and we talked about this on the show,

is I always think that like I just look at everybody as spirits like we're all really just like having a physical experience for this lifetime here on this earth but we're all just spirits and those spirits when we die don't come with a d-a-don't come with a vagina don't come with they just you're just a spirit it's how you treated people when you were here and how you lived your life and I think there are people

who are like oh I'm just spirit like I don't subscribe to the like colonialized mind of like oh I'm a man I'm a woman I'm a this I'm a that it's like no I'm just I'm just spirit but I think that that's why people People were like, oh, all up in arms whenever that happened because it was like, I also feel like if you do, I don't think you should be canceled for it. No, I think it's a conversation.

I don't think it's canceled. Yeah, yeah, I don't personally. I don't think it's canceled. I think it's conversation. You know how we can have a conversation whether you agree and then we can leave here and have a drink later. Yeah, exactly. Because it's just so much said that, like,

is completely off because of Rito, right? Like, so many other things that's being said, nobody get in trouble for that. Nobody getting in trouble for shit. Nobody else. But my thing is like, it's not about... But you do know the gay community is like maga. But wait, it's not about getting canceled.

I think getting canceled defeats the purpose. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let me clear that up. What I mean by the gay community is, because I'm like, look at that, let me again. That's exactly what you just said, Ms. Pat. Because I'm like, what I mean is that when they come for you, they come for you, and they come in droves. And no matter what you say, they're right. That mean, they did the same thing.

That's not true. But that's crazy. That's not true. Yes, it is. it's not. You don't with the gay community? I do. What you're talking about? What you're talking about? What's you talking about?

What I'm just saying? You don't be talking that shit about. I'll be like, I'll talk about my daughter on stay and I said, this is by my daughter and I leave it as day. Because it's a sensitive community. But it's not about sensitivity. It's about respect. It's about I respect what you do. You respect what I do. It's not about being sensitive. It's like, no, you respect

me. I respect you. Let's go out. Like you said, I have drinks. Let's have a conversation. But I don't think anybody, when people say something wrong, like, if I see somebody who considers himself to be gender not conforming and I misgendered them and I say he or I say she and they correct me I'm not going I shouldn't I shouldn't feel canceled or feel upset because I didn't know if you tell me we have a conversation I'm a respect you because you told me oh this is how you identify all right I'm a try well I don't do identification I don't I'm being honest I don't want to know

of you him them day and her what's your name give me your name because I can't I don't want you that's a slippery slow you around and call him or she a she or him a damn but I Tell of this new stuff, I don't care. Just tell me your night and I will respect you. It's not new stuff because this is a thing. It's just the same. It's new to you, but this is a thing. It's just, it's the same as.

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and so they sort of become outsized indicators. of inflation. Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As when we were talking about a white person trying to get over calling us Negro or trying to get over calling us colored, it's because times have changed. It's not, oh my gosh, these ns are all of us. Now they want to be called colored in African American.

And it's like, no, actually, I'm going to listen to what you're saying because it affects you. So I'm going to try to do my best to not say color no more. I'm going to try to do my best to not say F no more and not say B no more. But it's about communication. But nowadays I feel like people are so busy doing this that they don't actually communicate so we don't actually move

forward anything. You know what I mean? So is it okay if I just say, I don't need to know your pronouns. I just want to know your name. I don't think that's offensive. No, I don't, I don't, because maybe I dropped out of school. I don't even know what a pronoun mean. So just give me your name. I don't know what a noun

is, I don't know what the verb is, just give me your name. And that's what I'm going to call you. If you are gay woman, you want to be called Big B. B. B.B. Willie it is. You know, fat is a blur now. What? Fat. You keep telling me, fuck.

Have you offended? I'm never offended. I mean, let me tell you. So, I'm straight off the USDA food stamp 10 years ago. I supposed to be fat. So I ate good. And when I did not buy with my food stamp, I stole or wrote your parents' check. So I've been fat a long time, no.

Yes, I learned that from Big Dink when she was here, though. She actually called it the F word. The F word. The F word. It's been out of the way. She can be offended. I mean, it's odd. And I'm not talking about it, but I'm just saying, you eels what you ill.

I mean, how are you going to be offended to be called fat when you fat? I'm fat, I'm thick. They never said that word. That word was forbidden in her household. That's right. It's forbidden in her house over, not at the grocery store. But it's forbidden in my house, too. You know, I'm not about in your house fat.

Just skinny-ass fat. I do you eat. When a little kid, I feel like when little kids say fat, it hurts your heart. That's what I'm saying. That's why we don't allow, because you know what our kids go out and say somebody is fat. Your kids can't, your kid ain't nobody fat in your house. She said, just skinny-ass family. Your skinny-ass-like-skinned family.

I'd be looking at you. All the, zero's over there. Y'all be in the car in this car I see your family in the seat They don't take up none of the seat My family My family can't even ride My G-WAT because their ass be hanging over the seat

Tell people what that means For people to have their snap benefits taken away Man especially around the goddamn holidays You know I was just talking to my assistant I said you know I see people in the grocery store celebrating That people don't have snap And you know

Nobody asks to be going into a family of poverty. Nobody asked to be born into a family of needs. When you out there picking that, you can't fault the kids for having a parents that need a program. So when you are here celebrating somebody not eat, that child

is who you hurting. That child is who's going to go to school hungry like I did. I grew up on foodstown. That was so many times we ran out of food and I could not wait to Monday morning so I can get their breakfast at school. My mama food stamp to kick in on the third.

is thinking about the kids and that. So what you might think that the mama selling the food style or the mom is a hood rat. But one thing I do know by being a hood rat mama, no matter how much you sell them food style, you're going to put a little bit back for grocery. And that little grocery is going to feed that child for a certain amount of days. So while you out here celebrating, you're hurting a kid that don't have shit to do with the family that they was born into. It's not their fault. And you want to take that from them, which would give me flashback.

And it hurts my feeling. It actually made me, I'm looking for a food bank. Well, I found one in my community to give food to. Because nobody ever think about that child. I mean, I was a child with raggedy clothes. I was a child who had to get the Thanksgiving bags from school. I was a child that went to school raggedy. Didn't have nothing.

But you're making it their fault. It's not their fault. You know, everybody can't be born to you. Everybody can't be born to me. But, you know, but I had it rough. And those are the people that you heard. And that's when I'm talking, when I'm on my social media talking, oh, you need to stay out of politics.

I said, why the hell do I need to stay out of politics when I pay a shit ton of taxes? And I was once those people that you're talking about. I moved it. I moved it. I moved it. From being on Section 8 and food stamps. So I would never forget when I had custody of my sister kids and I was working at Walmart and I had to get food stamps and how that helped out.

That $1,200 I got for raising eight kids still were not enough. but I had to make it do what they do. So when you're talking about snap out here, fuck the mama. Forget the daddy. Think about that child and the household that needed more than anything that you out here celebrate

that they're not going to be able to eat because you think their parents are getting their hair done or you think their parents are not doing what they're supposed to do. Nobody ever looked behind that parent and see the old hungry kid. So what is six kids on welfare? Well, hell, you're taking my money bill in the ballroom. You're taking my money doing dumb crap.

And let me just say this, they've been doing this for years. The Congress have been doing this for years, taking all money, making their lives better. But one thing I can't say, I've never seen a president that doing this shit he's doing. Now, you had your little racist president, but they still were going to trick it down and get a little black folks. They little helping here and there. And not only that, you cut our program to help people with their electricity. You cut our program to help people with their lights. Do you know how?

And people's like, well, how is it affecting you? I might live in a 15,000 square foot house and it had not hit me and it hadn't hit you and it hadn't hit you and it probably hadn't hit you but it hit the people that I talk to on a daily basis it hit my friend when they cannot pay their bills and I'm the only friend that they can call and say

can you give me a little bit of help it hit my family you know how many people I had to go help since this crap has been going on and I don't put that on social media because it's none of your damn business I don't do it for life I do it because I love the people that I'm happy

But so many of my friends Are struggling behind this And some of them don't even get snapped Some of them don't lost their jobs Those are the things that you got to think about When you out here celebrating on this bullshit Because let me tell you something It's coming to all dough next

It's coming to all though next It's not I can walk in the grocery store I'm blessed and not look twice at a price I'm okay But in the last week I've been looking like damn Bottle's this much Let me go back to couponing.

I literally say I got to go back to couponing because I got so many people that needs my help. Hey, what about when you walk out the grocery store and somebody try to rob you for your groceries? It's going to come to that. They don't understand that. Let me say this to you.

When you take from the poor, they go to the next class. They're going to get it. I've been that person. I've been that person that ran out of the store with local. I've been that person that ran out of store with baloney and their other stuff. You think they're stealing now?

you think they're still in that and you say I don't know if y'all notice this morning Walmart telling kirkis turn snap back on because they get they get a tax break and they and their revenue with eight point some billion dollars a month or year or some shit that they get from people using snap in Walmart

so it's not just affecting us it's affecting them too because that was free money they was getting I also hope that the Democrats don't cave I do hope they need to have you seen those health care prices but they're going up anyway So anybody's going up anyway But what's going to happen

Because of the big beautiful bill They're going up anyway But if they don't cave Is it still going to go up? Yes, the health care is going to go up anyway Because the big beautiful bill Didn't include the extension That the tax credits

It keeps the cost down So it's going up anyway That's what they're trying to get the extension That's the whole hold out So it's going up anyway So what I'm saying If they get it It won't go up

What you mean? If the Democrats don't cave If the Democrats don't cave No because of the big beautiful bill It didn't include the extension of the tax credits to keep the cost down. Aren't they fighting for them

to put the instition in the big, big beauty? The premiums hold for a year. Like, it goes up and it's going to hold for a year up until the election. This is crazy. And people, I'm trying to tell you.

That man is going to make everything fall on itself. The premiums are set for a year at this point. So it's like right now, what are Democrats holding on for? Where are you going to become a congressman? When I'm 50-something years old?

We need you, Shaliman. You're very intelligent. You smile. had half the knowledge that you had I would be out there like Jam McCrackett cutting them, cutting their asses down. You do have it. No, I know. From a screen perspective and that's the best perspective. Yeah, but

I ain't got time. See, I'm not... Ms. Pat doesn't tell me that like, she texted me all the time and be like, I told you, you're the next Andrew Gillum. Wow. Wow. I think she's right. I think she's right. I think she's right. I think you'll be a great politician. Politics out to ask. I need a child.

This now, ladies and gentlemen, Jordan, I'm coming to see Oh, happy day. You say this last week. Yep, last week. I'm coming this week. Can I give a shout out to somebody? I know a shout-out.

Can I give a shout out to Carlos Miller from 85? Oh, that luck. But doing up, my husband, old school's 1970, Chavez. I'm coming to your damn car show. Call Carlos don't hook. We got a 70 and a 72,

and Carlos re-dead them bitches. Oh, I got to see you. I don't know what color it is. Brown and what a white stripping. Other one white with the black. brown shirt. I think I might sit on the page. That bitch is bad. Carlos Miller hooked my two cars up for my husband and we're coming to light skin. Carl Shaw. I love it. Yes, we are.

It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Dirty place, man. Shout out to Ms. Pat and Jordan Cooper, man. Dirty, dirty place. No, it's not a dirty place. I got spies on everybody in here. It's real dirty. Because why you get your people to report that? Because I told them yesterday that when you see Lauren on the red carpet with her man, make sure to take pictures. Of all, he's right there.

You took that from my friend's video. My friend posted a video and you screamed. I don't know who your friend is. No, somebody said that to him, love. Lauren, just keep in mind. We can see the reflection in the mirror and we can see your bed. Just keep that in mind to. I'm in a whole other room.

This house has multiple rooms, okay? I'm going to say this is Lauren's Drewski. I recognize him from that neck. He's just telling you what the street is right there. He's literally right there. But he's not playing with him, man. Oh, Lord. Y'all, man, right on the side.

Let's get to the latest. You see him? I'm going to come on straight forward. So, exciting. Period. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the detail. I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.

She'd be having the latest on this. The latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit everything. What is the latest? On the breakfast club. Talk to me.

All right, y'all. So, Cardi B and Stefan did. are having a baby boy. Okay, congratulations. Congratulations. Yes. So, Stefan Dage revealed this news. He was on the carpet at the CFDA Fashion Awards, and he was

speaking to People Magazine, just about a bunch of different things, and they brought up the baby, and he says, it's a boy, that's enough for me. I can't wait to make him do push-ups and sit-ups and run-around. Now, also, at the same award show, he was speaking to Extra,

And they congratulated him on the baby. And he then gave us a timeline. It was really quick, but he says it's supposed to happen real soon, actually. So wish us both luck. So Cardi should be, you know, he says real soon, their baby boy should be on the way. So congratulations to them again. Oh, congratulations. And to Stefan.

Yeah, and I saw, Jess, I know you mentioned this yesterday, Cardi at the Patriots game. She looked so good in that burgundy boating. Oh, my baby, up in damn. She looked good. It's a brand of a designer. Okay. Yeah, she was giving a sideline wife. She was sitting with Robert Kraft.

Definitely. And they posted photos on the field as well, too, with Stefan Diggs holding a baby bump. And, you know, I saw them do the people's gallery. So they've been popping out. So you're going to hit Botega in the bodega? Uh-huh. Yeah, girl.

This guy's crazy. Yeah, Clown. Now, in other news, just yesterday, you wished Diddy a happy birthday. It was his birthday yesterday. Yes, it was. No, this, this birthday was a lot different for him. So I reached out trying to figure out what this birthday actually looked like for him.

And I was told by his rep that his fellow inmates made him a cake and gave him applesauce for his birthday. That's crazy. And you too upset with him. That is how he celebrated. What you say? You too obsessed with him. They made him a birthday at jail birthday.

Yeah. I mean, people. It sounds crazy. They made him a birthday cake and fed him apples sauce. She did not say they feed him to apples sauce. That's exactly what you just. they threw him a party. I said, and he got applesauce. They threw him a party at Ford Dix

for his birthday. Happy birthday. That's what's that. Yes. What flavor happy? Y'all making it sound like a five-year-old birthday party. He gave him applesauce and saying happy, but like... I mean, you got to do what you got in jail. I mean, at prison. Okay. Yeah, like, how much... Actually, I was trying to figure out

if he, because, you know, sometimes they do, like, special visits for, like, holidays and things like that, especially in the feds. So I was trying to see if, like, family came or, like, anything like that, but I was only told that his fellow inmates made him a cake, and he got applesauce. Okay. For anybody wondering how he celebrated this year

because it's a lot different for him. All I think about is Diddy when he was singing Happy Birthday of French Montana. You remember that? Happy birthday to you? I hope nobody did that to him yesterday. Of course they did. Of course.

He probably performed for his birthday and everything. Right on the lunch table on a caters radio. I mean, 50 posted a video on him dancing in the yard. That was not real. That was AI. No, but that was scary. It looked real. It definitely did look real.

And so I looked at the scene like, You know, you can kind of tell if you pay attention that it was AI. It's crazy. The Bob was a little off too. Yeah, it was a little, yeah, yeah, it was a little bit too light on the feet. It wasn't like the new one with Diddy Bob, so it was a little off. But he did also, speaking of 50 cent, 50 cent, because there's been conversation, you know, about the pardoning. And there was a story that went out yesterday that Diddy has been bragging to the other inmates about Trump pardoning him in early 2026.

So 50 cent posting and said, no, he's not pardoning you. You said some really nasty things. Stop crying. You're in PC and Jersey. Then he also posted When he posted that video of Diddy He said I told you he all right

He got his appeal going Diddy's good And he posted the photo Of Diddy and said That Diddy looked happy to be Amongst the male inmate So 50 has been trolling Speaking of him

So just in case you wonder How his birthday went That is how it happened And you got a new TV show coming Right with Taraji P. Henson I saw it too Yep Yeah

Let me pull that up I saw that yesterday It's based off of a book that they did I don't know, you do the latest I'm pulling it up right now Yeah, so they have a It's a TV adaption of the novel

The Accomplice And it's in the works at Peacock That was just announced yesterday I mean I like seeing that I remember the days when 50 used to troll The hell out of Taraji P. Henson Because he was trying to build up attention for power

Yeah And so he would troll her about empire Yes People used to be mad at him about that But those were some He used to troll everybody. Remember Gabriel Union for B.M.R. Jane. He's the

true. All of them. They work together now, which is good. Which is dope. Yeah, and there's a book that 50 Cent wrote, along with a guy named Aaron Philip Clark. It was published last month that this is what they'll be developing into it. There's 50s and got so much going on.

He does. So that's it for this hour, y'all. All right. That's the latest with Lauren. Solomon, who you giving that dog on Kutu? Man, for after the hour, we need Van Jones to come to the front of the congregation. We like to have a word with him, please. Okay. We'll get to that next. Exeter don't go anywhere.

It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Made it! This is America. There is no question. There are problems in this country between police and community. Yes. You are a donkey.

The latest on that police killing of a black man. Now to new developments in the deadly spa shooting rampage. And yesterday it was a really bad day for him and this is what he did. And so we are in a state of emergency. Okay, white supremac's violence is, it always has been. the number one threat to our society. But I'm also very proud that my wife is white. The breakfast club, bitches.

All right, Shwin-Leen. Please tell me why was I your donkey of the day? Donkey of the day for Wednesday, November 5th, goes the CNN's Van Jones. Now, last night, the Democrats had a good election night. They won the governor's race in Jersey, Virginia. They voted for Prop 50 in California. They retained crucial seats on the Supreme Court in Pennsylvania. House Democrats flipped 13 seats in the Virginia.

Union state legislators. And of course, the mayoral race in New York City was won by Zoran Mundani. And that's why I have to bring Van Jones to the front of the congregation this morning because last night, Zoran gave a speech after his win. And Van Jones thought the speech was divisive. I thought the opposite. Would you like to hear some of Mondani speech? Let's listen.

Safety and justice will go hand in hand as we work with police officers to reduce crime and create a department of community. safety that tackles the mental health crisis and homelessness crises head on. We believe in standing up for those we love. Whether you are an immigrant, a member of the trans community, one of the many black women that Donald Trump has fired from a federal job, a single mom still waiting for the cost of groceries to go down, or anyone else with their back against the wall, your struggle is ours too. And we will build a city hall that stands steadfast alongside Jewish New Yorkers

and does not waver in the fight against the scourge of anti-Semitism, where the more than one million Muslims know that they belong, not just in the five boroughs of this city, but in the halls of power. How is any of that divisive? I personally loved it. He covered all bases. He talked about working with police. He talked about, you know, helping people with mental health issues. He talked about helping the homeless. He talked about trans people. He talked about black people, black women, Jewish people, the Muslim community. Most importantly, he spoke to the working class of all races, okay? Let people know he will be a mayor for all New Yorkers. But Van Jones didn't like that. He thought it was divisive. Van Jones had this to say, let's listen.

I think he missed an opportunity. The mom, Donnie, that we saw in the campaign trail, who was a lot more calm, who was a lot warmer, who was a lot more embracing, was not present in that speech. And I think that Mondani is the one you need to hear from tonight. There are a lot of people trying to figure out, can I get on this train with him or not? Is he going to include me? Is he going to be more of a class warrior, even in office? I think he missed a chance tonight to open up and bring more people into the tent. I think he was using the microphone in a way that he was almost yelling.

And that's not the mom done that we've seen on TikTok and the great interviews and stuff like that. So I felt like there's a little bit of a character switch here where the warm, open, embracing guy that's close to working people was not on stage. There were some other voice on stage. That said, he's very young. And he just pulled off something that's very, very difficult. And I wouldn't write him off, but I think he missed an opportunity to open himself up. tonight and I think that that will probably cost him going for him. Man, shut

the F up forever, okay? There was no opportunity. Mr. Man, just won. He just won. After you won, yes, you're going to celebrate. Yes, you're going to talk loud. What do you mean he wasn't warm enough? He took a victory lap and he deserved to take a victory lap

because he won. I just don't understand how in the era of Trump we're still telling people how to talk. The language of politics is dead and Donald Trump killed and you know when you can really talk that talk after you win. All right, I listen to Zoran's whole speech,

Zoran's whole speech, because I was trying to figure out what the hell Van could have been possibly talking about. It couldn't have been the part I just played earlier. So the only thing I could think of was the rhetoric he had put a billionaire class in Donald Trump. Let's listen. We will hold bad landlords to account because the Donald Trumps of our city

have grown far too comfortable taking advantage of their tenants. We will put an end to the culture of corruption that has allowed billionaires like Trump to evade taxation and exploit tax breaks. New York will remain a city of immigrants, a city built by immigrants, powered by immigrants, and as of tonight, led by an immigrant. So hear me, if we embrace this brave new course rather than fleeing from it. We can respond to oligarchy and authoritarianism with the strength it fears not the appeasement it craves. After all, if anyone can show a nation betrayed

by Donald Trump how to defeat him, it is the city that gave rise to him. There's absolutely nothing divisive about calling out bad landlords who take advantage of tenants. Okay, there's nothing divisive about calling out billionaires who are corrupt and don't pay their fair share taxes. Nothing wrong with calling them out. Okay, an administration, all right, that is trying to implement an authoritarian strategy on America. There is nothing wrong with calling that out. There's nothing wrong with calling out capitalism, okay? There is nothing divisive about it. There was something Zoran said in this speech. He said, as has so often occurred, the billionaire class has sought to convince those making $30 an hour that their enemies are those earning $20

an hour? Oh, I love that. Okay, see, the reason a lot of things don't change in this country is because you don't have enough politicians that are willing to challenge capitalism. And Zoran is doing that. So how can Van Jones be mad that someone is challenging capitalism and authoritarian strategy? Well, I need someone way smarter than me to answer that question. Medellon, why would Van Jones call Zeran Mondani's speech divisive? Why would people say this was an angry, far-left, rage-filled victory speech? Very hard for me to get inside of Van Jones' head.

but I would remind people that Van Jones in 2017 is the guy who gave us the most famous land of the first Trump administration. Remember when Trump gave that speech in Congress? Van Jones on CNN said, tonight he became president of the States. So Van Jones thinks that Donald Trump gives unifying speeches that make him president,

but thinks Zoran Mamdani, who's united a multi-racial, multicultural, multi-income coalition is divisive. That tells you more about Van Jones than it does tell you about Zoran Mumdani. I mean, Jared Kushner's pal wasn't a fan of Zoran Mumdani's anti- oligarchy, anti-Trump speech.

I'm shocked. Please give Van Jones the biggest he-ha. And when we come back, we're going to talk to Betty Hassan some more. That's right. About everything that happened last night and all things going on in the world of politics. That's right. So don't go anywhere as the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

Morning, everybody is DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Salomey and the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes. You're here to talk about a lot, especially post-election covers, ladies and gentlemen. Medi Hassan.

Welcome. Great to be back there. How are you, man? How do you feel, first of all, I know y'all was partying all last night? Yeah, you got to be tired. Before them partying, I was doing a live stream. So the voice, it was very noisy in Brooklyn. Okay.

You can imagine there was some noise made at this historic election night event. And the voice took a hit. But, yeah, it was very historic. We were there all night. We were alive all night. I want to ask you a question. First of all, have you seen this? The front page you did in your post this morning.

Let me see? Okay. Oh, wow. It says, Anya, Marx, get set, Zoe, socialist Mondani wins race from there, the red apple. What do you think of that? What I think is it didn't work during the election campaign. I can't believe they're still trying this shit. I mean, the New York Post, Rupert Murdoch, they tried, they threw every, they threw the kitchen sink at this guy.

And it didn't work. You won a majority of the vote. In the last days, they were like, if only Slewer pulls out, the whole campaign was Slewer pull out, doesn't matter if Sleeward pulled out. He won more than 50% of the vote. You won a majority in New York. you won more than a million votes. It's been, I think, something like this is 60 years since a New York Merrill campaign

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or wherever you get your podcasts. This stuff worked. They'll keep going after in the billionaires. And I pointed out last night, Duran Mandani did not just be Andrew Cuomo and Curtis Sliwa. Zeran Mandani beat Bill Ackman and Michael Bloomberg and Reed Hastings and James Murdoch and the Walmart woman and the Home Depot guy

and Door Dash and Airbnb and all the billionaires and corporations who threw all that cash at him. He beat them all. What do you think about Bill Ackman reaching out? laughing. What did you think of that? First of all, it was a very short tweet. Bill Ackman writes these war and peace

Tolstoy tweets. Very short tweet. You know, I tweeted last night, thoughts and prayers to Bill Ackman and Elon Musk. This guy spent his entire campaign attacking. He suggested that Zoroamandani is some crazy jihadist, terrorist radical. And for people that don't know who he is, he's a hedge fund

manager, he's worth about $10 billion. I envy the people who don't know who he is. I wish I didn't know who he was. He spends a lot of money and time online. And what's interesting is it's why people hate politics in this country, right? It's so cynical. He spent the entire campaign saying that guy is a terrorist. He hates Jews, like the most extreme incendiary rhetoric.

And then he wins. He's like, hey, man, I'll work with you. You need me? I'm here for you. Hold on. I thought you just told us the end of the world was going to happen if this guy won. Like, make your mind up. But I do have a question.

So a lot of people were saying that, um, Mbondani promised a lot. I saw you in an elevator. And some of the things he said free and free. Red freeze. Eliminating fans for city buses. Universal child care, building a large number of affordable housing. And they're going to be on a... Raising taxes.

He's going to fund all this by raising taxes. On the top earners and corporations. Building 200,000 houses. So he's going to be on a timer. So what do you say to those people? Can he get all those things done with everybody against them in politics, I should say? Well, what's interesting is that everybody is not against them. The public are with him, right?

He's got a massive mandate. Donald Trump is a man. Let me just put context. Donald Trump is a man who's never won more than 50% of the vote. In 2016, he lost a popular vote. still beat Hillary. In 2020, he lost popular vote and everything else to Biden. In 2024, last year, he got 49. Something percent of the vote. He never hit 50 percent. Have you listened to how Republicans taught? Like, they own the place. We have a mandate. Millions of people voted for this.

The people are with Trump. You need to have Democratic leaders who are willing to do the same thing. I want to hear Zoran Mamnani in every speech go, more than a million people voted for me. Like, that should be his line in every interview at the start and end the very time he talks. Because that is his mandate. Those are the people who are with him. And the fact that you were able to just reel off his policies. Because he said it so much. And because it works, right? Hillary Clinton ran with like a 700-page policy platform.

No one knew what it was. Donald Trump said ban Muslims, build a wall. People remember that stuff. So it was political genius to communicate with those kind of simple, popular appeals. Is he going to pull it all off? We will see. I mean, we know that he doesn't have the power to do everything on his own. Luckily, the governor is now an ally.

Cathy, even though Schumer and others wouldn't back him, he did get the backing of the governor. I interviewed Tish James last night, the Attorney General. He's got the backing of some big figures in the state. Well, will that be enough. We will see. We will see whether the smile and the charm and the charisma and the people power will get Albany to do some of this stuff because he can't do it on his own. You're right.

Well, Governor Hogle already says she's not going to raise taxes. She says she's not going to raise taxes, but she also said she supports his plan for universal child care. So at some point, the robber is going to hit the road. How do you pay for it? It can only be through raising taxes on rich folks. Can it be free bus service in New York City? I mean, there could be anything you want. I mean, realistically, could that happen?

I live in a country where Donald Trump is president. I mean, I live in a country where the guy from home alone too is president threatening to annex Greenland. And you tell me if free buses are realistic. I think a lot of things are realistic if you put your... I mean, Democrats are always trying to lower the ambition. And Republicans are like, we'll do whatever the hell we want. We'll conquer countries, we'll bomb things.

We'll do all sorts of insane things. And Democrats are like, oh, can we do this? little bit for poor people or marginalized people or people who need help. And I just think, come on, New York, biggest city in the country, richest city in the country. You can't do this stuff. Yes, you can. I want to see. You know how I do. I really do. And by the way, if they block him, I mean, this is a man who will run again on this platform. I mean, FDR ran in the 1930s on the basis that, look, they hate me the rich people. And I embrace their hatred. And I can very much see if he doesn't get things through and it's clear it's because of the opponents, he'll run on that

again in a few years time. I want to ask about that. How does he navigate the government overreach that is absolutely going to happen from Donald Trump? It's a good question. I asked Tish James the same question yesterday. I mean, all Democratic attorneys generals have been dealing with this issue

in California, in Illinois. We know Donald Trump is now going to use his excuse to send in the troops to cut funding. I mean, it's insane that he posted on his social side at the weekend. You know, if you vote for Dura Monday, if Zara Monday will, I will cut funding. Like, that is the classic mobbos.

That is crazy. Just extortion. The country's big. biggest, richest city, the President of the United States says, I'm not going to send you any money if you don't vote for the guy I want. By the way, the guy he wanted was Andrew Cuomo. So I just think that's, look, I don't know if there's any solution to this stuff. I think it's not going to, it can't be Mundany on his own, right?

The whole point about Donald Trump is you can't beat him on his own. You can't beat. What he does is he goes after institutions and people one by one, like the bully in the playground, and takes them out one by one. The only way you beat Donald Trump is with solidarity with people sticking together. Not people throwing each other under the bus. Big universities, big tech companies, all trying to come. I actually thought the best part of Zoran Mamdani's speech last night was when he went after Trump

and made it very clear. He said the way you respond to oligarchy and authoritarianism is not with the appeasement they crave, but with the strength they fear. And he said, you get rid of the conditions that create despots like Trump. You don't hear that enough in the Democratic Party. All you hear from the Democrats is is we've got to get rid of Trump and back to business as usual. What Zeran Mamdani is saying and Bernie and others have said is you can't just get rid of Trump. You've got to get rid of the next Trump. And that means getting rid of the conditions that created Trump. How should Democrats look at last night? And what I mean by that is,

Jersey, you expect Jersey to go blue. Mayor race in New York City, you expect that to go blue. Prop 50 in California, that's the blue state, right? Virginia, you kind of expect that. The margins. Margins were huge. Okay. So how should this, should this be something they look at

and be like, okay, this is a step in the right direction for us? It's 100% a step in the right direction, especially you look at the Virginia House, for example, which is seen as a bellwether. They won back a bunch of seats from the veto-proof majority there. So Trump took a beating in all these places, especially in Virginia where, you know, he fired a bunch of federal workers,

Doge, all of that, had a huge impact. But look, it's across the board. It's in special elections in Georgia. It's the prop 50 was a two to one vote. I think Gavin Newsom would be very pleased with that result. There was a statewide race in Georgia, which they won as well. You go through the list in Maine. They rejected an attempt to limit early voting

and all sorts of other voting methods. So it's really, really interesting that across the board, they did well. The margins were big. I mean, Mikey Cheryl, it was looking very close in New Jersey just last week. she actually was a blowout, right? So I do think the margins are big. It does bode well for them going into next year. My bigger worry is, not that they win the House.

I hope they win the House. But then what do they do with that power? Like, I have no confidence in Hakeem Jeffries. I have no confidence in Chuck Schumer. I mean, Chuck Schumer was asked yesterday, who did you vote for in your city? And he could not say who he voted for. Like, disgraceful doesn't come close enough to it.

You are the leader of the Democrats in the Senate, and you can't say that you voted for the Democratic candidate in New York. And by the way, you said New York goes, you know, he's a Democratic city, but this guy was up against two candidates. He was up against a Republican and a famous Democrat with name recognition who was governor of the state. Terrible candidates, though. Terrible candidates. And I like Curtis as a person, but they're terrible candidates.

Agreed. He got lucky. You need luck in politics. Donald Trump got lucky in 2016. You could argue with Hillary Clinton. But the point is they still outspent him. They still threw the kitchen sink in him. He still had all the billionaire support. He still had the Cuomo name. If you go back nine months, we say terrible. But he had the inevitability aura. It was like it's Andrew Cuomo's race to lose.

He was leading in the primaries. This was the guy who was supposed to just naturally get it because of his name and experience and money. He didn't. He got disgraced twice. Let me ask, but what does that mean for Democrats? Because it seems like nobody rolled for him. It seems like the Democrats almost separated to go against each other, right?

You had Eric Adams at one point. You had Cuomo at another point, Mom Donnie. We're going to ask you when we come back. We have many a son here. We're talking post-election coverage, 800-58-105-105-1. We'll take some calls if we can. It's the breakfast club. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ NVV. Just hilarious. Charlamagne de Guy. We are the breakfast club. We have Medi Hassan here.

We're talking post-election coverage, right? And I just asked, what does that mean for Democrats? Because it seems like when the Democrats had somebody, they split like Voltron, right? You had Eric Adams now he's independent. You had Cuomo now he's independent. But they're Democrats, but they all did this to go at Mondani. So what does that mean for Democrats? Because Republicans, I don't think would ever do that. Even if they didn't like the candidate, they would still stand behind him. I hate Trump. It's a reminder that they keep nominating crappy. Democrats. I mean, the fact that Eric Adams was the mayor, the fact that Andrew Kromo was the governor tells you volumes about the New York Democratic Party and how awful it was. And I think

Mundani is a breath of fresh air. I was standing in that hall at Brooklyn Paramount last night, watching him speak, seeing the energy, the crowd, people crying, thinking to myself, this is the guy they chose to reject. This is the guy Chuck Schumer couldn't even say he voted for. This is the guy that, as you call him, Apak Shakur, couldn't turn up and actually until like the Friday before the race endorse him. What is wrong with these people? Do they not want to win? He won young men, 18 to 29, according to the NBC exit poll last night, by 40 points. To put that in context, Cheryl and Spanberger won young men by 10 and 14 points. I'm only one by 40 points.

I'm old enough to remember a year ago when Democrats are like, how do we get young men back? Do we need to go on podcasts? How do we get young men back? This guy's doing it. He's giving you a playbook. And they're like, no, no, we don't want the playbook. We don't want this guy. The entire party establishment rejecting him.

To the very end, Hillary Clinton asked at the weekend. She's like, I don't know. I haven't our view. Like none of them would come behind this guy with energy and charisma. So it's a real problem for the Democratic body. If they decide to carry on the classic circular firing squad where they're all just shooting each other. On Monday, Spanberg, the woman who just won the governor's race in Virginia,

she was attacking Mum Danyi as dishonest. I'm like, what are you doing? You're both on the eve of major elections. Why are you attacking him? Like, is there not enough Republicans to attack? But that is classic Democratic party. I think I saw, correct me if I'm wrong, I saw a poll last night, that he won just young people 18 to 29 by like 75%

I'm sure if overall. I didn't see the final number later. But the male one is fascinating. He won women, of course, as well. But the male one's fascinating because all I was told by pundits was like, young men don't vote. They're all conservatives now. We were told all young men are conservatives.

We didn't see that last night. We were told Latinos, all conservative now. Last night, Democrats won back Latinos across the country. Guess what? Having a rogue, fascist, secret police, and masks, picking up brown people off the street doesn't help your poll rating. Yeah, I think it shows how out of touch the Democratic Party is when they're giving Mondani credit.

And he should get credit, but giving him credit for using social media, galvanizing young people and talking about affordability. He told them a basic. I know. Like Obama did that in 2008. It's amazing that this guy had to come along.

Remember how Mundani becomes famous? He goes out in Queens after the presidential election, and he just stops people and says, did you vote for Trump? Why did you vote for Trump? There's no hectoring, there's no heckling, just has conversations with him. And at the end, he's like,

well, I'm running for mayor. This is what I used to do. And they're like, yeah, we support that. And I think those kind of conversations, it's not rocket science, as you say, to have that. But if you're a party that's captured by donors and the corporate class and special interests, as the Democratic Party sadly is, especially at the higher levels, then it's very hard for you to have those conversations. Like you say, it's not rocket science.

It's like, oh, people want cheaper rent and cheaper buses and more affordable. Like, this is not rocket science. But if you, yeah, if you're beholden to people who say, it can't be done, you can't promise that, this is impossible. And one of the things he'd said in the speech last night is like, he is. redefined what is possible or impossible. Well, I got another question about the government shut down. The ACA premiums have already gone up.

They're set for the year. Democrats, we appreciate the effort. But isn't it time to reopen the government? I mean, who's in charge of the government? Republicans, but you still need those eight Democrat votes to vote. Yeah, because of the filibuster. They now want to get rid of, by the way. Having spent years saying...

By the way, I don't care who's responsible for it. It's a bipartisan effort. But isn't it time to reopen the government? Yeah, of course it's time to reopen the government. But the Republicans are in charge of the government. But they still need to do it. those eight Democratic votes. But you cannot have a political system that always relies on only the Democratic Party being the responsible party.

You just can't America cannot survive. We've created, it's like having toddlers, right? The Republican Party are a bunch of toddlers and everyone else has to be the adults in the room. And that cannot continue indefinitely. And at some point, I'm glad Democrats have drawn a line, even with Schumer and Jeffries, where they're saying, you know what, it's up to Republicans to govern responsibly. It's up to Republicans to stick to their pledges. But we know they can't.

But they're there you. That's the problem. But we know they can't. The reason I said... With the greatest respect, my friend, you're part of the problem. You can't say we know they can't because that immediately gives Republicans a pass and puts the entire American democracy, American government, American economy

only in the hands of one party to deal with it. I agree, but we know Republicans aren't going to do the right thing. Rent is due. You know, they're talking about cutting snap benefits. People got child care to pay a light bill, car notes. We need groceries. Like, we need the Democrats to say, okay, we know y'all not going to give us no concessions.

We fought the good fight. We're going to vote. reopen the government. The problem with that argument is, if you're worried about human suffering, the counter argument is that reopening the government on Republican terms increases human suffering. Yes, but the elections in the elections in 2006. So now you can say Republicans are responsible for your humor suffering. Republicans are the reason you got high health care. So let's change this in 2006. I don't have the numbers off top of my head, but a lot of the stuff that Trump did in the big beautiful bill, all the horrific stuff, they very smartly delayed that till after the midterms kick in.

The premiums are the pain. The premiums, a lot of the pain. So, look, there's a strategic argument for doing what you're saying. I don't believe. I've been around long enough to know that this always ends with the Republicans benefiting from Democrats rolling over. And I'm glad to see Democrats not rolling over. I'm with you, but it's hard to see all this human suffering. I agree. But human suffering cuts both ways.

These food banks are so, the lines of the food banks are so long. You know, we got government workers calling up here every day. But the fact that you and I are talking about Democrats are not Donald Trump starving Americans. And saying, he said at the weekend, he goes, I would. will not. A court, let's just be very clear, a court has said he must release the funds to pay for snap. And he said, I'm not going to do it. That's crazy. That should be the combination. It's not should Democrats open the government. Should Donald Trump follow the law? No, I'm just saying the government should be reopened. We just know it takes a bipartisan effort

to do it. Yes, Republicans are the main issue here, but we can't act like it, you know, eight Democrats. It'd be interesting to see if they get rid of, he's now pushing for the filibuster new king. It'd be interesting to see if they get rid of that filibuster, because, of course, in the long run, that will help Democrats. They had a good night, last night, reopen the government. That's all I'm saying? I agree with you, but I'm saying it's Republicans you have to reopen the government. It is a bipartisan effort. Yeah.

And I'm saying, give people their money. And I'm saying there's a cost to doing that. And you know, and you know, the way where it's kind of disingenuous is if by some chance Republicans do make concessions, aren't you going to give the Democrats credit? In what? If the Democrats are, if the Democrats are Republicans. I mean, if Republicans make concessions on health care, aren't you going to give the Democrats credit? I mean, yes. So you got to give them the same credit now

with the government being shut down. Yes, that they have a role to play? Yes, that they have a role to play, yes. But the problem is, whose responsibility is it? That's the point. I don't think, again, it goes back to my thing, I can't treat Republicans like children and toddlers. I don't think American democracy can survive

if we only have a two-party system and one of the two parties is completely, we just don't take seriously. They can do whatever the hell they want. They can break any law, ignore any judge, shut down any government program, end USAID, like the... And again, the costs of reopening the government,

the costs of conceding, on the Medicaid cuts and all of that stuff. Your point is, well, next year they can point in the midterms. But what about the suffering on that front until the midterms? What about the people are going to lose health care? Yeah, I would rather the government be open, people would be getting paid, and we're having these arguments about health care and Republicans, you know, people are having to miss paychecks.

But if the government's opened up, this is Democratic Party argument, I'm not a Democrat, but the Democratic Party argument is if the government's open up, you're going to have huge costs in the healthcare world. Once again, that's one bill, as opposed to people not getting no checks to pay lights, rent, daycare, like no money coming in, is horrible. It's a effed up situation in this country.

By the way, can I just point this out to people who are listening and watching? I'm from the UK. I have an immigrant to the US. There's no other Western democracy that has government shutdowns. There's no other Western democracy that has debt ceilings.

This is all artificial crap that's in our system that needs to be fixed. Again, when the Democrats are in office, they need to fix the stuff so that we don't have this constant cycle of this nonsense. This is why people hate politics to go back to what I said at the start.

Well, at least we got people like you here to bring some clarity to it. I appreciate it. Absolutely. Well, we appreciate you for joining us this morning. Thank you. Thank you for breaking it down. And I'm sure you'll be back soon and then later. I appreciate it.

A lot to talk about. That always is it. Thanks, guys. All right. When we come back, we got the latest with Lauren. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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That's great. He knows. The girl go out at night, but let's get the latest with Lauren. Your beard is a 32-100. Lauren becoming a streetbed. Natural. Natural. She gets some more than natural.

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On the breakfast club. Talk to me. Talk to me. Real quick, Lauren. Just the way that they hate on God's architecture. when it comes to my eyebrows. I know that's right because I got the eyebrows too

so, you know what I'm saying? That's good. This man does his eyebrows. I don't. I don't do his eyebrows like this with the fingers. Like, you are so sassy. And?

And he doesn't even come off. I know, that's right. I don't need to pin the filament every morning. I know. I know that's right. Me either.

This man gets waxed and does his eyebrows. I just want you to know that. I got a white's appointment tomorrow. You heard what Bill Burr said so on when he was up. I got a wax appointment tomorrow, see. Yo.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Well, speaking of black women, Charla, yesterday at the Ebony Power 100 Gallup, I also ran into Mario, a singer Mario, and you guys, I don't know how to do it black women? Yeah, what's going to do it, brother? Why are you playing bar?

No, the reason why I say that is crazy. Listen, the reason why I say that is because people have been on him saying that he doesn't like black women because he's in an interracial relationship. and yesterday when I saw him at the Ebony Power 100 gala I told him I'm like you know we're going to talk about this on the breakfast club you want to give me a comment

you want to share you know how you feel and he says he didn't he was drinking having a good time he was like no I don't want to do a comment but he was like make sure you let people know that the world does move with our black woman but let's take a listen he was all funky fire that's a crazy choice of words I need to hear what he said

you got that on audio do you have anything against black woman no sir I don't never have have. What is your relationship like with black women? The ones that matter to me? My grandmother, my mother, my family members, my aunts, a few of the black woman that I have dated. My relationship with them were all different. I can say to my grandmother was my hero. She was the contrast in my life when it came to understanding the importance of a black woman, the strength of a black woman, the soul of a black woman. So when I think of a black woman, her face is the first one that

pops up and it feels safe. My mother, that's a very, very hard question for me to answer because part of me feels like I was blessed to be born from her room because she was talented and had so much passion and fire. But on the other side, we had a very toxic relationship because I didn't understand her struggles with whatever she was facing. And I just want her to love me the way I want her to love me as a mom to a son. So he's speaking on his experiences. Yeah, Yeah, so once he provided context, I mean, yeah, you know. How is that, how is that for all black women, though? Because he's talking about his mother and grandmother.

Right. No, so look, the hate came before this interview. He's just addressing it again in this interview. The hate actually started when he posted his girlfriend, you know, celebrating the fact that she is having his baby. And when people saw that she wasn't black, people hopped in the comments. It was all over. Also, Dr. Umar Hive went crazy, is what you're telling them.

Is she totally against it? Damn it. Is she white? I believe she's like Mexican Yeah like she's not white Her name is Esmeralda I believe she's Mexican Almost definitely

A Latina Yeah But I'm happy that he's having It's his kid His first kid I'm happy about that You know that's my Baltimore brother so

He ain't got nothing bad Coming from me Yeah No I mean I don't think that I don't I didn't really understand Why people were so upset with him Until I was looking at

Some of the comments And I think anytime you are I think because I can't even believe you're trying to explain. Yeah, it's like, you know. This is ridiculous. You're trying to explain. At first, I didn't understand why, like,

if he chooses to be with whatever woman he wants to be with. Lord, he would be mad at anything, man. That man's having a baby, and they're talking about a relationship, man. Congratulations on that baby. His last few girlfriends have not been black. That's why people get upset. Who cares?

Yeah, I like seeing black men with black women. I think that black love is revolutionary, but I'm not tripping off somebody who decides to be with somebody of another race. I thought just going to talk about the fact that he said, he was talking about a Marion and Jacquee singing. That's what I thought you were going to go. Yeah, because he always coming to somebody.

I do have that clip, and I did talk to him about that because he didn't even see Jaquise's response. I told him yesterday that Jaquoise got upset. But let's take a listen to Mario talking about who can't sing to what NB's talking about. I said every singer can't sing. I will give you a list of artists, and you will say if they can or can't. All right, cool. Bryson Taylor.

Listen, if Bryson wanted to sing more, he could. It's either a yes or a no. I would say Come on, Mario. Listen, I never heard Bryson sing live without just no mic, no nothing. So I don't know. It's yes or no, bro.

To my standards, no. Thank you. Trey song. Yeah, Trey can see. The weekend. Yes. Ray J. Ray J can sing when you want to.

It's a hard yes or? It's not a hard yes. But so yes. Jaquise. Yeah, he can sing. I'm like, I'll just tell you straight up. But if you act, but. Not to me, can't.

Okay, I get that. Or Mario, if he hit or miss for me sometimes. Bobby Valentino. He can sing. Last but not least, Chris Brown. He can sing. Mm-hmm. So, wait, wait, wait, so he needed to be mad at Cam Newton, not Mario.

Okay, so that's what Mario was saying. He only played a little clip of that because he went back and forth and then he went back and was like, well, I don't know, but that wasn't the whole clip. They cut that out because he went back to Jacquist. Okay. But Mario said, and he said this, he reintegrated last night. He said all, he said, I said yes initially. So he was like, I don't even understand why he's upset. So Jaquist commented on this and he said,

Cam Newton and Mario, y'all are some hos. Keep my name out, Trump off on that little podcast. I've been minded my business. But yesterday, Mario said to me, he was like, I said yes. Like, I wasn't trying to say he couldn't sing. Like, I don't, he's basically saying, even when they went back,

he wasn't trying to say that he couldn't see. Why all y'all fake woke people on social media didn't say, how come Cam didn't bring up no white singers? Hey, yo. All I heard him naming was black singers. Why y'all fake woke people? People on social media that got mad about who Mario Dayton didn't get mad at Cam for only bringing up blacks.

The clip was a little longer too, by the way, because, you know, Cam said, well, I, Jackoese, and then he was like, well, you know, I can say yes or no, sometimes it. It wasn't just yes or no, I said yes. No, it was a little extra. It was a little more sauce on it. Jaquist was like, nah, I can say that. I don't have a problem with anything Mario discussed. Yeah, because it's all just a matter of opinion.

That's right. It's a matter of opinion. And that's what you do. These people sit down, they do these interviews, they say things. you agree, you disagree, you get online, you talk about it, we all move on and live another day. But I will say that singing conversation is a way more interesting conversation

than that race combo. Because it's ridiculous to say somebody hates the whole group of people because of how they choose the date, regardless of how much Dr. Umar and I choose to judge them. Oh, wow. All right, well, that is the latest with Lauren. Oh, gosh.

Oh, he said he loves you just too, Mario. Oh, of course. I love him too. And that man can say. I swear to her. Shut up. Shut up. He had his Baltimore accent on last night? No, he did.

Okay, all right, cool. All right. Well, he turns it on and off or something? Nah, sometimes he, he don't stay on Baltimore until he get mad. Like, when you haven't lived there in a long, long, long time, and he's been in L.A. And it lived other places. Like, you don't, it's not as strong.

Like, you use and your dudes and your dugs and all that is not as strong as it used to be. I used to be mad. No, you didn't. Remember we was walking out of sidewalking that white lady who had a dog? Yeah, he was like, what kind of dug is that? I'm like, you sound dumb because you're not from Baltimore. And the lady wanted to correct him so bad. She was looking like, well, he's black, so.

She ain't wanted, she ain't want to get it. That is the latest with Lauren. Let's get to the mix. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Chat. We'll see you later. Peace, chat.

Bye, chat. Love you all. Morning, everybody is DJ and V. J. Jolari, Sholomey Naga. We are the Breakfast Club. Now we got a salute to Medi Hassan for joining us this morning. Man, salute to the good brother, Madi Hassan. You know, he's been a supporter of Zoneman.

Ramadani since day one. So it was good to have him for some post-election coverage this morning. Yes, and also Ms. Pat and Jordan E. Cooper for joining us this morning. Big Ms. Pat. Big Jordan Cooper. Yep. You know what I'm saying? Slued to them, man. Proud of that young brother. He's so young. Mm-hmm. Doing a damn thing.

Absolutely. And Ms. Pat's new show. Miss Pat settles it. Season three of it started yesterday at 10 o'clock on BET. So make sure you check that out and watch that on BET Plus. Now, where you at next week? Next week. I'm in Parisburg, Ohio. So that's in the Toledo area, I'll be at the

Funny Bone Comedy Club. We got four shows next weekend. That's two on Friday, two on Saturday. Me and my brother, Desi Alexander, will be in Ohio, so get your tickets if you haven't yet at just hilariousofficial.com. Also, my book is available for pre-order. So, Def, do we parent? Get it, get it now.

The link is in my bio. The link is, wherever you go and get your books, you can pre-order my book, and I will be doing the audio version. I'm proud of myself. I love that. And also, last but not least, I will be filming my very first comedy special in Baltimore City

at the Nevermore Theater December 13th on Saturday. I cannot wait, y'all. I'm coming home for the holidays and I'm going to be filming my special. So Baltimore, the tickets go on sale tomorrow. You can get the pre-sale and I'm just excited. I'm happy. What other city to do it in other than mine?

Can't you, you know what I'm saying? I agree. All this Baltimore energy is ready to be lit. It's ready to be crazy. It's been a long time coming. It's been something that I've been wanting to do for the past few years and I'm going to do it myself. So I can't wait to see y'all Baltimore, but next week you just take it's Ohio.

All right. We got a positive no, Charlemagne. I do, man, and it's simple. It comes from Thomas Edison. When you have exhausted all possibilities, remember this, you haven't. Keep going. Have a great day.

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