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Just hilarious, a little late, Sholomey to go.
Peace to the planet.
Guess what day it is?
Guess what day it is?
Pump day!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
How y'all feel out there?
I feel blessed black and highly favored.
Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Now, I got just an alarm clock.
I guess she ain't use it.
Hey, man.
Listen, man, it's the holiday season.
You know what I'm saying?
Let everybody, you know, be in whatever spirit they want to be in.
Yeah, she'll be here in a second.
What's up, though?
And if she's not, it's okay?
It's the holiday season.
I told y'all when I got here Monday.
The next few weeks don't really count.
Why are we doing this?
If it don't really count.
Because we love coming to work.
We don't call it on the scoreboard.
We have careers and we have obligations.
So it counts.
I mean, I think everybody's slacking off a little bit of their jobs,
regardless of what it is that they do.
Y'all better not.
I see it.
Holiday check will be your last paycheck.
I better not.
I had to blow the horn that a couple of the garbage men this morning.
Like, bro, you know, you can't just sit here and smoke a blunt
in the middle of the street.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm trying to get the,
I'm trying to get to work.
It was like, oh, my back.
They was just cooling.
They were just chilling?
It was cool, and it's the holiday season.
Jesus.
Okay.
It looks a lot like Christmas because it is.
Okay.
Yes.
All right.
Well, he was out in about last night?
Outing about last night.
What did last night?
Oh, no, you know what I did last night?
Last night I hosted a screening.
Knives something?
Man, shut up, man.
A screening for Netflix.
What's it called?
Knives something, right?
I thought it was.
I don't like when you do that.
You should have asked me.
Okay.
Knives out.
Nives out.
That's what I said.
I said Knives out, like I'm lying.
I had to think about it.
Yes, Knives Out.
I just woke up.
Knives Out.
Yeah, stars Carrie Washington.
It's called Wake Up Dead Man.
It's a Knives Out mystery.
How was it?
Carrie Washington is in it.
Milakunis is in it.
And I hosted a screening for it last night.
How was it?
I didn't stay for the screening.
I watched it last weekend.
This guy's crazy.
I don't know.
First of all, don't ask me these questions.
You shouldn't be asking me these questions on the radio.
Okay.
Don't ask me these stupid-ass questions on the radio.
I see pictures.
Okay.
Because I hosted a screening.
That's why I asked about it.
Oh, how was the screening you mean?
Oh, this guy's crazy.
What you mean?
The screening was great.
It was packed.
A lot of people were in there.
You know what I mean?
We did a nice little 10-minute Q&A before the screen happened, you know.
Carrie Washington was there.
Milakounis was there.
The whole cast was there.
It was great.
It was actually really, really fun.
Okay, Kaylee Spaney was there.
Yes, it was really good.
I'm not going to ask how the movie was.
Ryan Johnson, the director was there.
All right.
It was really good.
It was really a really fun.
Ryan Sirhan will be joining us this morning.
Season two of owning Manhattan
is out right now on Netflix
Ryan Surinand
Tricia Lee and Jeffrey St. Armand
If you haven't seen it
It's out right now
Pretty good show I love it
If you're into
Just seeing what the real estate
business is and getting into real estate
Not just buying homes
But being an agent
And seeing how tough job is
Not's a job
People trying to buy and sell homes
Just not a million dollar houses
Everything rentals and all that
So buying though
We're gonna talk to him
Oh also Swayvo Twain will be joining us
You know what that is?
Of course
That's the son of Angie Stone
in DeAngelo, man. Columbia, South Carolina's
on. He grew up in Atlanta as well, though.
Yeah. Yes. So both of course, both of his
parents has passed away this year. So we're going to
talk to him. He has some new music. And we're just going to
kick it with the brother, man. See how he's feeling, how he's holding up
how he's doing. And today is Tiana Taylor's born day.
Can we start off the show with some Tijuana? We got some Tee in there?
We ain't got no Tee in there?
Give me a second. I don't know why we're putting each other
on this spot. Why are we pulling that up? Why he's pulling that
that up? Everybody, don't forget, you can get it off your chest,
800-5-8-5-1-5-1. If you need to vent, you just
get on the phone lines right now. He's trying to kill time to find a record
we don't even have. Don't worry. We'll get it on later.
We don't have enough time anyway because by the time we come back
and it'll be front page news. So let Tiana's a song
brief. Oh, which one? Okay.
We got a couple. All right. See, Tee, you're going to play
30 seconds of the song? Yeah, let's do that one.
That one works. All right. Tiana Tella,
Happy Birthday is the birthday. Happy Born Day, T.T.
This song's so tough, man.
Tiana Taylor, happy birthday, Tiana.
Happy born Day T. T.T.
Man. T. T.T. is a young icon amongst us.
She is. I just want y'all to know that. Right. That woman is
so goddamn talented.
Yes, she is.
Morning, everybody.
Good morning.
What's up, Jess?
I'm walking here like you,
extra on power.
Let's get some front page news.
What's up, Mimi?
Good morning, Envy.
Jess, I know you're just getting there.
Charlemagne.
How y'all doing this morning?
Good morning.
All right, so we start this morning in Pennsylvania,
where President Trump traveled to the Pocono Mountains
to make the case that he's already delivering lower-case,
lower prices and bigger paychecks,
even as many voters, though,
say they are still filling the squeeze.
Now, speaking to about a thousand supporters at the Mount Airy Casino Resort,
Trump pointed to the stock market and 401Ks as evidence that the economy is gaining strength.
But his biggest challenge last night was the same one he always faces nationally,
which is convincing people that their everyday costs are actually going down.
At one minute, at one moment, he downplayed the idea of affordability altogether.
And moments later, he said making America affordable again was his greatest priority.
Let's listen to some of his speech.
Gave you high prices.
They gave you the highest inflation in history
and we're giving you, we're bringing those prices down rapidly,
lower prices, bigger paychecks.
You're getting lower prices, bigger paychecks.
We're getting inflation.
We're crushing it.
And you're getting much higher wages.
I mean, the only thing that it's really going up big,
it's called the stock market and you're 401Ks.
But they have a new word.
You know, they always have a hoax.
The new word is affordability.
So they look at the camera and they say,
this election is all about affordability.
But under Biden, real wages plummeted by $3,000 a year.
Under Trump, the typical factory worker has already seen their wages increased by more than $1,300.
They always stand in front of people who don't have no stocks and point to the stock market.
Okay, you can't lie to people about what they're feeling.
feeling in their pockets like go stand in front of some working class people and try to convince
them the economy is good i bet that crowd reaction will be a lot different
and you're right the numbers they tell a very different story than what trump is saying most
major polls show that voters still feel financially stretched and there's also government data
that backs that up the overall cost of living is still rising energy prices are up over the past
year inflation which had been easing has crept back up following the tariffs that trump put in
place and on top of that employers have announced more than a million
in job cuts this year. That's the highest level since the pandemic, adding to the sense of
unease that many families are already feeling. And there's polling that makes that disconnect
even clearer. There's a recent Gallup poll that says that 68% of Americans, they say the
economic conditions are getting worse, while only 27% of people believe things are improving.
Now, that gap between what Trump is saying and what people are feeling is becoming one of the
defining challenges of the upcoming election year, especially with affordability, consistently
ranking as voters' top concern.
Now, during that rally yesterday, Trump, he also veered off on his economic message several times
and turning his attacks on Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, Somali immigrants, and a range of other
unrelated issues and comments that drew reactions from the crowd, and also at times shifted
the tone of the rally.
So we will continue to see what else comes from that meeting.
And as affordability dominates the national conversation,
there were two local races in Florida,
or two local races, one in Florida and one in Georgia,
that are showing just how voters are feeling
and responding to it at the ballot box.
So in Miami, a Democrat,
she just ended a 30-year Republican streak
to become the first woman mayor ever elected
in the city of Miami.
Aline Higgins, she campaigned directly on affordability,
and immigration concerns, the feeding a Republican endorsed by President Trump.
And in Georgia, Democrats, they flipped a house seat in a district that Trump carried by double digits.
Eric Glistner, he asked the growing number of special election wins by Democrats that they have picked up this year.
So clearly affordability, immigration, very, very key issues for people in different states and different cities right now.
Yes, but, you know, it's one thing to campaign on affordability.
It's another to get in an office and actually, you know,
govern and make things more affordable. So that's
the, that's the important thing. Like, after you campaign
on affordability and, you know, you win whatever
election you know you were running for, once
you get in office, you have to have
to fight to make things more affordable for people.
Absolutely, definitely.
And so we will see what happens with those
two candidates. A couple of special
elections happening there. And coming up
at seven, a holiday staple is
getting more expensive this year. It's
reviving an age-old debate.
We'll tell you what it's driving the price hike
and what it means for your bottom dollar.
All right.
Thank you, Mimi.
Now, everybody else, get it off your chest.
Good morning, Jessica Robin Moore.
How are you?
What you mean?
Don't wave me off.
Because you're looking over here like you're about to pick on me.
I don't have time.
No, I'm not.
I'm just saying, good morning.
I ain't saying good morning yet.
How are you?
How are you?
How are you?
Did you have a good night?
I was up all night in the head so long getting my hand down.
Damn.
I could tell you was up.
I woke up with a text from Jess.
I was like, she must have been up all night.
Because she usually don't text that late.
Yes.
By 9 o'clock, she used to go to sleep.
I got seen her time.
I said, well, okay.
Not tight and fresh, yo.
Please stop looking overheld.
It look good.
Thank you.
Get it off your chest.
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Hello, who's this?
Irritated Uber Drive.
Hey, irritated Uber driver, how are you?
Bless and highly medicated.
There you go.
I know, that's right.
What's up, man?
Okay, I'm irritated.
I drive in the city of Detroit.
And in my car, I got a picture of Barack Obama and Michelle Obama, as I should.
I got a picture of Kamala Harris when I met her in Detroit.
I had a Trump supporter in my car telling me yesterday, if he knew a, a ninja was picking him up, he would have canceled the right.
Damn.
I said, stay with your chest.
I said, say it.
I said, go here to sit.
So he said it, and I dropped his ass off on the east side of Detroit.
And I said, I figured it out.
Why did he think he could beat a ninja?
Did you have your mask on, your sword, and everything else?
Shut up, man.
You're stupid.
You know what, y'all's funny, but he's Trump supporters.
Y'all do not run this.
Y'all, I'm tired of y'all talking about what Donald Trump has done for this country.
He's segregated us.
He wants to try to put us in our place.
And then I'm tired of him talking about.
construction workers that we make
too much money. I told the Trump
supporter, get out there and do the jobs that a construction
worker does. Put some respect
on our pay and leave our
affordable wages alone.
I agree with you. How many stars did he give you?
He's at a show zero.
Listen, he gave me one star
reported me telling me that I have
expensive pictures
up in my car. Uber called me
yesterday and said, man, what's
going on? We got to complain. I said,
okay. And I said, I got a picture.
of my president, Barack Obama, and his wife.
They said, maybe I should take it down.
I said, maybe you should kiss my ass.
Right.
I wonder what the policy for that is, though.
That's weird.
They tell us to be neutral and stuff like that.
I said, there's no neutral about it
when you get in my car and talk in ignorant.
Yeah, you call me out of my name.
You're paying me.
And then you're going to call me out my name.
Thank you, Jess.
You heard that.
You're going to call me out my name.
Put some respect on my melan.
First of all
I'm mad
I'm mad at you
that you didn't
I'm mad at you that you didn't
call him a crackerback
but also
if you look at it
I called him
I called him
an ignorant baloney
smelling damn
Trump
that ain't hit
hold your head
I called him
everything else too
but I can't say it
on the radio
but if you want me too
I will
but I'm looking
to these Trump supporters
y'all need to
stay in your lane
you should have called
you should have called him
a milk cricket
but also too
look at the flip side
right
if you would have gotten
to a car
and the person
And had a bunch of magapriar for Nileya, how would you have felt?
I wouldn't have got in that car.
I would have canceled that ride.
So it's kind of the same thing?
Yeah, yeah.
He should have canceled it.
He should have canceled it.
If he's being a beautiful black woman with...
Hey, hello?
Damn.
Cash Patel caught the call off?
The FBI ain't playing, boy.
She dragged his ass on.
The whole lot blacked out just now?
Wow.
I was going to tell him maybe she should download the Lyft app, you know,
just in case people...
to go so she'd have some other income coming in.
That was the CIA. But also too, man,
if you want to get where you're going, just mind your
goddamn business. You can't hold your political opinion
for two seconds. You know what I'm saying? You get in the car.
You see Barack Obama picture, Michelle Obama
picture. Shut the hell up. You're getting somebody called.
You see Magaprafanyi. Shut the hell up. All like she said,
cancel the ride. I was going to say, just get out.
Like, you, you, I pull
off and then you tell me that you
if you knew that I was going to be black,
you would have canceled. You can always get out
now. Yeah, get out right now. That's why if she
said, if she did what she said,
and dropped his ass off in the hood.
Good time.
I'm like, Shuliffe, I got to get to the airport.
I ain't got time to mess with you.
Just get me there.
I don't care what you got in there.
Because the reality is you don't know what's in a person's head,
a heart, you know what I'm saying?
Or trunk.
So you got to relax.
Get it off your chest.
800585-105-105-1.
If you need to vent, hit us up now.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Get it up.
This is your time to get it off your chest.
Keep calling.
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Hello, who's this?
This is Lamar from Detroit.
Lamont, what up, Joe.
Talk to us.
Get it off your chest.
Heavy in the day this morning.
Good morning.
Hey, yo.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Good morning.
So, Pete King.
How you doing, Black, man?
What's happening in there?
Hey, I just want to say, hey, Jess, we got a lot in common.
Your birthday, your birthday, so is mine.
Hey.
My first granddaughter, her birthday is August 20th, like your daughter.
Oh, my God.
That's what's up.
Yeah, we got a lot in common comment.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I do want to say, hey, y'all, Jasmine Crockett.
I appreciate her, man.
I'm glad she's doing what she's doing.
But don't put all her campaign on focusing on Trump.
Tell the people what you're going to do for the people, you know what I mean?
In Texas.
What you can do when you become a senator?
You call them from Texas?
I'm talking to Detroit.
I thought you were calling from the Texas, my fault.
All right, brother.
No, from Detroit, 313.
What up, though?
Hey, salute to Jasmine.
Boy, Jasmine pissed off people yesterday.
It was a combination of bots.
It was a combination of people who, you know, just were ready.
to oppose our campaign because they would know
they were announcing the combination of the same old
people who always get upset
when folks, when certain people
announced that they running, but boy, she had people pissed off
yesterday. She sure did. Hello, who's this?
Oh, it is Jay. Jay, what I'm getting it off
your chest. Man, I need people out here
saving parks, man. It's 2025.
Y'all still saving parts with chairs
and water bottles and all those actions.
He means parking spots. People say the parking spots.
Yeah. What are you calling from?
I'm Chicago, man
We
No, Jay
I'm not going to
I'm not going to front
Jay
When I lived in Queens
If I shovel my
My spot out
When I come back home
I want that spot back
To be there
Yeah
I shovel that spot out
Bro
See no
See no
It ain't like that
No more man
To me no more
I'll shovel that spot
I'm gonna go
You know
You got the snow
Plow gonna come down the street
Anyway
Go push that snow right
Back in your spot
So it's like
Nah, man
You're trying to say these parts for, man
Yeah, that's labor
Do you know how long it's taking
How cold somebody's fingers
Be shoveling them spots
You better not move that garbage can
You move that garbage can
You've got four flat tires
You're not parking my spot
He said it ain't like that
Hey, it's 20-25
Man, I'm putting my car right side
And I'm putting it right there right now
You have four flat ties
In Chicago
He's better chill
He has some bullet holes in his windows
Get it off your chest
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Man Lauren ain't here
Eddie ain't here
I told you everybody don't give a damn
Everybody just don't
It's the holiday
She's gonna text me
Amvi up coming up
Oh she'd be just better
It's the holiday
I'm telling you everybody
Then cash it in
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She gets him from somebody
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She gets to detail
I'm the home girl
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L.L. Cubey.
Good morning, y'all.
Good morning.
All right.
So, and getting started this hour, I wanted to congratulate Asia Wilson.
She covered Time Magazine as their athlete of the year this year.
This has been such a great year for her.
I know we talked about her during all of her.
the achievements, but I just wanted to remind people what her year
look like. She just was there
she just was Tom's
woman of the year
woman of the year back in February.
And then she won her championship against the Mercury,
MVP of the season, and the final.
So to top off the year with Athlete of the
Year, congratulations.
Dropping the cruise bombs for Asia Wilson, South Carolina
is the whole Metro 803 was happening.
Y'all remember that press conference, the post
game conference where she was like turned up
after the game and she was enjoying the game.
I hope she enjoys her New Year's even.
just like that because she worked hard this year.
No, she will.
Now, switching gears a bit,
the Breakfast Club
keeps coming up again
in a lot of the things
and a lot of the mess, okay?
Uh-oh.
You mean, say nothing.
This is an old breakfast club,
but, you know, we're in the mix.
Okay, so Marlon Wayans
has had to come on line
and basically clear up
that he is not defending Diddy.
Yesterday, I don't know if you guys saw it,
but there was a whole conversation about
we're not going to watch
Gary Movie 6 and we're not this
and we're not that
because Marlon Wayans was
asked the question when he went to the crew show about
Diddy and the documentary, right?
So late last night, I woke up this morning and I saw
a video that he posted. Let's take a listen
to Marlonne's. 50 and Puff
have a long-term beef.
It's personal. It's between him and Puff.
And before it between him and Puff,
it's between both of them and God. Just the way
Puff is down on his love.
Wait, that's not the correct video. Let's play
Marlon response to backlash. Number two.
I'm going to make it abundantly clear. I'm not here
defending Diddy. I am here
because I got dragged into this because somebody asked me a question and I had an opinion.
Nobody's wrong for giving an opinion about any subject, period.
I'm not here defending ditty.
Don't let the narrative fool you or get to you once again.
Somebody's creating narratives.
This is my point.
So please look at the whole clip that I did and then look what happens with the narrative.
And that's what I'm telling you.
Y'all people don't be sheep.
use your brain
it's your freedom of thought
freedom of speech
and don't ever let nobody
bully you
never don't let nobody bully you
you got me
love
and back to trolling this troll
the narrative is you gotta let people
go through whatever it is that they're going through
you know what I'm saying
Marlin said that people are kicking
ditty while they down
so that makes people think about
ditty kicking Kathy while she was down
but they're like you know what
stay out of that one
exactly right
he posted that video four hours ago
I was like dang they must have been
on him to because it's like
if he's in LA it's like 1 o'clock in the morning
but you said it was trending
I mean it was but you know
he's he normally is like
he's gonna move on about some things like he ain't really tripping
or he's gonna have a lot of fun with it and play
that's what he's been doing now when it comes to the money
when it's trending don't watch
what a scary movie 6 now I want to come
to the money let me fix this right now I get you
plus you got somebody stirring the pot
50 cents stirring the pot yes oh my god
both of them are so 50 cent
and Marlon lands have been going back and forth
every since yesterday when we left work
online and he said in his video he was going to get back to the trolling now one of the things that
marlin posted he posted a video of 50 cent up here at the breakfast club talking about what
kicked off a lot of 50 cents issue with did he did he wanting to take marlin i mean did he
want to take 50 cent shop it let's take a listen to the 50 cent when he was here uh some years
ago not now fifth when you continuously called puff gay is that enough your relationships in
hollywood i don't go no i don't call i don't call him gay i said let me read it let me read it fifth
Sorry I can no longer help you guys
Soon you will all be gay and happy
You are all now left under leadership
Of Puffy Daddy
Report to the nearest Rainbow
Dinothies
In Tina Day
Oh, that's one at the time
Listen, listen
I'm gonna say that because of the trick champs
He said something fabulous
And he goes, yo, no, but me and you
We ain't party
Like we need the party
What is he talking about?
When people say that to me
I get a little uncomfortable
I get uncomfortable
Like he said he said something to me
one time, a long time ago.
At Chris Lighty's wedding, he told me he took me
shopping. I looked at him like, what the
what did you just say?
Let me move, man, before I do something.
You're going to make me mess up the wedding.
Yeah, so Marlon Wayans posted that.
50 Cent has posted Marlon Wayans
when, you know, he took the picture with the flag.
But why didn't Marlon post that? Like, what's the...
Why did he? Yeah. They've been going back of it for a
night, but he's basically saying 50 cent, you need to explain this.
Like, oh, I get it now. You need to explain this.
No, Puffy need to explain that, which he did on
Breakfast Club. He did ask to take 50 shopping.
Yeah, but you know, Marla Wayans
is basically trying to make it seem like you was with all
the shopping things. His caption says...
What was the caption? His caption says some people just be lying.
Come on, Curtis. Stop. You wasn't lying
about that though. Mm-mm. He said
he said, I wanted to take him shopping. He said
that here on breakfast. Yeah, and then you know, some things
be AI. Now, I did see... Some things
be A-I. Because I saw, I don't know
if it was real. That's why I think I said it to you in a
DM, but it wasn't... It was somebody else
had supposedly posted. Didn't
Marlon post 50 in like the hot tub
with Diddy or something, but is that
AI? I don't know if this
is real or not, but he did post a photo of
50 Cent and Diddy in a hot tub.
Diddy has a cigar on his hand and he says, just for the
record, bro, let's correct the narrative, Curtis,
rub a dub, and then he says stop.
Now, 50 Cent has also been
going in. He posted that photo that I was telling you guys
about of Marlin with the
flag, you know, when he
came out talking about him. Waking up on the floor,
is him saying, and he never went to
a Diddy party, but there's a picture of
him with Diddy at a party. Like,
They're going back and forth.
They've been going.
They've definitely been going.
But 50 Cent,
he spoke to us weekly.
And he told us weekly that the way,
because people are using like the trolling back and forth
that he does online,
which we all know 50 uses,
to be able to say,
okay, this is why we can't believe 50 Cent
because we know that he has
some animosity towards Diddy.
But he told us weekly and exclusive
that they published yesterday,
that he went about this documentary
completely different than how he trolls online.
He even revealed in the exclusive
that he spoke.
spoke to Cassie and her husband
and that she would be pleased
with the documentary but he also says
that he had a conversation with Diddy and his son
and that originally Diddy was supposed to be
a part of this documentary
and that didn't happen. Also I don't
understand when people say things like you can't believe
50 cent when it comes to this documentary.
I was born in 1978
most of these stories probably
95% of these stories
we've heard about Diddy before. We just never saw
them packaged together in a
documentary. But not only that, 50 didn't
speak on a documentary. He didn't say one
word in that documentary. He wasn't even on the documentary.
I worked with Wendy Williams. I've heard all
of these stories a million times.
This is new to this generation,
maybe. And Lauren knows that they reached
out to both sides of everybody
on this documentary, not just the side that was
against Diddy. They reached out the side of the
people that was for Diddy. Some people didn't want
to speak. Some people wanted to speak.
But a lot of these stories, yeah,
we've heard of these stories before. What did he say, the sons
responded back? I mean, what did he say?
He talked to Diddy and his son.
Didn't say. He just says he hasn't spoken to Diddy since he went through his case. I had communication with them and his son or with his son. There was a point when they were interested in being a part of the doc because they wanted to show their perspective. They were concerned about how things would be portrayed is all he said. So I am trying to figure out what that conversation was and when it happened. And why didn't they participate? You know, they're really upset about it. So why not? Diddy couldn't speak like he was going through a court case. So he could not speak on a court case. He couldn't speak after. But he couldn't speak during that court case.
Sun's had an opportunity to talk.
They should have talked.
Because if you got men on the...
Don't in the court case?
No, I'm talking about him in the documentary.
You got men on the documentary saying Puffy touched their butt, man.
You should be on there defending your dad's honor.
Okay?
Lord Rob said his butt got touched.
He woke up sore.
He said...
He didn't even said...
He tried to leave that out.
He was trying to leave it for us.
He was going to figure it out.
I woke up and didn't know what happened.
He said he was sore and then he was laying next to him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, Ray J says...
Ray J said...
Ray J says he doesn't understand.
Ray Jays says he doesn't understand.
how men let that happen after he watched the documentary.
Let's take a listen.
As a journalist, you heard me say what I said,
and that's kind of what cranked this whole thing up.
And then fast forward to the documentary.
Just saying that they was getting that taken, bro.
Multiple times.
That party?
I owe you some money?
Yo, what the f***'s going on in this world, bro?
You said I woke up with females in the bed.
Then I woke up and Diddy was in the bed.
What was Diddy doing in the bed?
Ben, bro.
I wouldn't have a
fucking out.
Way more running.
On the rear end of her.
I know what happened.
I've been taken.
I've been taken.
And now, I'm still here,
party and acting like nothing ever happened.
I agree with Ray J.
If Little Rod had gotten paid,
would he be talking about puppy touching his butt?
If Kirk Burrell would have gotten this 25%,
would he be talking about puppy touching his butt?
Correct.
Allegedly?
Allegedly.
I'm just saying.
I don't know.
But also what Ray J.
is if somebody touched my butt
and I didn't like it
would I come back? Right
and keep putting. I mean not if you
been, now look, somebody
but if somebody promised you you're going to be
super producer. But you touched my butt.
I mean... And I didn't like it.
All right. Here's the thing with
I'm not coming back. Here's the thing with grown men.
If you tell me that you got
you know, assaulted, sexually assaulted.
The next thing you should be telling me is that you caught
an assault and battery would intend to kill case.
Okay. But even if you show...
But even if you saw off
and you're not that type of individual,
you're not going to come back.
Charlotte made me trying to hug you from the back
and you show up to work the next day.
I ain't never try to hug that man from the back
when you tell him no lie like this.
You get up and walk behind his chair
and hear all the time.
That ain't never happened.
You saw him do that to me.
I did not do that, no.
No.
No, envy will come in and try to hug
all the time.
I've seen you get up and walk over behind his chair,
especially when you got the timet.
That's my brother.
He can't hug me.
We've known each other for a long time.
There was our anniversary a couple days ago.
You know, that's what we used to say.
That's my brother.
And then M.B. came up in New York in the 90s, though.
That's why I be leery.
See, now you're hitting up to stuff from the band's behavior.
This is error.
This is the error he came up in.
You see this, right?
Bad boys come out as gay.
That's a way of a journalist, though.
That's what he always has been saying.
I need 50 to bring back one of his classic lines, man.
I heard Puffy touched your butt.
We need the T-shirts, Fifth.
He touched your butt.
No, he sat on a song.
To say that all the time.
I heard puppy touch your butt.
Did he did it?
Oh, my goodness.
Well, there ain't nobody more consistent than Curtis Jackson.
You hear me?
That's true.
He's like this all the time, not just in the own public, private all the time.
Him and Marlin are going to be going for like all of 2026.
Crazy because Marlon don't stop either.
All right.
That's the latest for Lauren.
When we come back, we got front page news.
And then we have the cast of Owning New York, all right?
Season 2 is out right now.
It's Ona Manhattan.
Season 2 is out now.
Ryan Sourhan will be joining us
and don't go anywhere
as the breakfast club. Good morning. Morning everybody
is DJ Envy. Jess
hilarious. Sholomaine the guy. We are the breakfast
club. Let's get back at some front page news.
What's up, Mimi?
Good morning. Good morning.
Good morning. Ivey.
Jashalameen. How y'allamane? How y'all doing this morning?
Good morning. So we start this hour in
Kentucky where a shooting on the campus of
Kentucky State University. Historically
Black institution has left
one student dead and another fighting
serious injuries. The officials
say the violence unfolded yesterday near
Whitney Young Jr. Hall, that's a dorm on the south side of the campus, right in the middle of
finals week. Now, according to university leaders, the injured student is now in critical but
stable condition, and early information shows the shooter was not connected to the school.
The suspect, 48-year-old Jacob Lee Bard of Evansville, Indiana, is in custody and charged with
murder and first-degree assault. Let's listen to some of the press conference from local authorities.
Within minutes, by 3.14 p.m., Frankford police officers arrived on scene. By that time, Kentucky State University campus police had already taken swift action, bringing a suspect into custody. Three individuals were involved in the incident.
An individual who is not a Kentucky State University student is in custody. Frayford Police believed this to be an isolated incident, and there are no active safety concerns on campus at this time.
Damn.
Well, police, yeah, police say the campus was on lockdown and the area was secured.
But for many students, the fear didn't in there.
They told reporters their sense of safety has been shattered.
Let's listen to what they had to say.
We got finals this week.
We're just telling regular college week.
We ain't thinking nothing going to go on with me.
And then, boom, it just happened.
I heard them let too often after that.
It just was crazy.
And it took about, what, 30 minutes for the cops to get here.
So it really was crazy then.
Just the type of stuff we tried to get away.
from and come to college and have to it be right at our doorstep it's just like crazy and we
pay too much money for this kind of stuff to be taking place at this school yeah i feel the same way
basically like thought we were safe here ready to get up out of here now that i heard that hanged kind
of defeats the whole purpose even coming to college shit in this year that's why i don't be liking
the people that's exactly why i don't like people in you know what i'm saying people in people in yes
no people in is when you got to be around people oh okay because you just never know what folks be on
man, everybody is a potential shooter.
When I used to work with Wendy Williams,
she used to always talk about the shooter, the shooter, the shooter might be around.
I mean, she had a reason to believe that.
But still, never you're in a crowded place, boy, you just never know.
But them kids are right.
Like, you go to college and get away from a lot of the BS,
to learn, to further education.
And that's a place that you figure will be safe, right?
A bunch of students in a place that just want to learn.
And then you've got somebody that doesn't go to this school.
that kills a young man.
And they look how the scourge they sound.
You know, it's like, dang, I don't even want to, you know, be here, you know.
And that's such a good point, Jessica.
One of the young men that was interviewed was like,
he doesn't even want to come back after the semester is over because this happened.
And a statement, the university's president,
they called the shooting a senseless tragedy that has left the entire campus grieving.
And officials are urging anyone who needs counseling to reach out.
There will be support and services available.
for students, staff, and faculty,
and the school has canceled classes,
final exams, and all campus activities
for the rest of the week, and students
are being told that they can return
home if they choose, and more guidance
will be shared in the coming days.
Yeah, psychologically, that has to mess you up, because if you come
from a certain environment, you know
how to move, right? Like, you kind of know who's
who, you know what to avoid. How you do
that on campus? Yeah. For sure.
And switching gears now to a story
that's getting a lot of attention on social
media, just this is something you brought to
attention. A posts are circulating claiming META will start reading all of your
private messages on Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp. One viral post with more than
238,000 likes says that META will start reading your DMs. On December 16th,
every conversation, every photo, every voice message fed to AI use for profit.
Now META says that is not true and here is what is actually happening.
Now META is rolling out a policy update on September, excuse me, December 16th, but does not
not give the company access to your private messages, those private conversations with friends and
families. That remains end-to-in encrypted, which means meta cannot read them. But what the update
actually does is it allows meta to use the messages that you send directly to its meta-AI chat box
for personalized content and ads. So if you ask AI about hiking, for example, you might start
seeing more hiking apps, trail posts, or ads for hiking boots, something like that. Meta said that
is no different from how Instagram already reacts when you watch your real.
That activity will shape what you see next.
And to clear things up, Snopes, which is an independent fact-based publication known for
verifying viral claims and misinformation, they reached out to META for a clarification,
and they sent back a statement that says, we do not use the content of your private message
with friends or family to train our AI unless you or someone in the chat chooses to share
those messages with our AI.
this also isn't new
nor is it part of our
December 16th Privacy Policy
Update. Okay cool because I was
ready saying, I'm done
I am done
before my guys. Man, what?
But it's crazy to me that y'all don't
assume that they're already
looking at all your stuff now. Absolutely.
Yeah, but when you hear that
it's going to be like sold or put
out there, you never know who's going to get it and
then be like, just said or
damn, that's what you were saying.
But once again, it's crazy that y'all assume that they wouldn't do that anyway.
You know what the craziest thing to me was?
When everybody gets on these apps, like, signal and everything else,
and they be like, we can send secret messages.
You really think somebody going to create a whole app for you to send secret messages,
and they're not going to look at it.
They're looking at all these apps.
It's not accessible.
WhatsApp, text, all that.
They look at all that.
You should just assume whatever you text in, whatever site you want,
and you send in stuff, DM, that somebody can see.
Correct.
If you move like that, I promise you, you'll avoid a lot of problems in the future.
All right, well, now to a very different kind of holiday delivery.
So correctional officers at a South Carolina prison, say, a drone flew over the prison yard
and dropped a package that looked less like contraband and more like someone was prepping for a full holiday feast.
So inside that package was crab legs, raw steak, old base seasoning, cigarettes, and two large bags of marijuana.
This was a Baltimore prison?
This was South Carolina.
This is in South Carolina.
You heard crab legs?
Yeah, crab legs.
The old bag.
Crab legs, yep.
So all of this was wrapped neatly in a bag, a pigly-wiggly shopping bag.
Let's go, Pigley Wiggly.
So the Department of Corrections, they even joke that someone was clearly planning an early old bay crab boil and steak dinner.
Now, officials say that drone drops are a growing problem nationwide, but they usually involve dangerous drugs, not seafood and seasoning.
No arrests have been made.
and officials are still investigating
who that package was meant for.
Hey, listen, man, I ain't mad at him for trying.
It's the holidays, man.
I need me a seafood boil, some wheat.
You know what I mean? I don't see
the problem, man. I'm going to be honest with you.
Like, he tried. Whoever it was tried.
I can't be mad at him for trying.
They definitely tried it.
And lastly, to a serious
question that needs answers this morning.
So are y'all team real tree
or team artificial?
Girl, I do. Not what my house is smelling like no damn pine.
No.
I'm artificial.
I like, I'm artificial.
I've always been team RealTree, but, you know, my wife ain't having it.
She hasn't been having it the past couple of years, so we're artificial trees.
Yes, so let's all of you guys are artificial trees.
Okay.
Well, because this year, the Christmas tree debate is even louder than ever.
So Real Tree fans, they swear that nothing beats the smell, Jess, the tradition, the moment of bringing that pine scent home.
And artificial tree people say they're done with the pine needles, the watering and the mess.
They want something they can just pull out of a box and plug in.
Right.
But this year, yeah, but the cost this year is the real debate.
70% of households are choosing artificial, not just for the convenience, but for the price.
A real tree can run anywhere from $120 to $200 this season, thanks to droughts and transportation costs.
But artificial trees aren't cheap either.
Pre-lit versions with all the settings, those are selling for about $400 this year.
All right, y'all, well, that is your front page news.
I'm Mimi Brown.
Follow me at Mimi Brown TV.
For more stories, follow the Black Information Network,
download the free IHeartRadio app
or visit BINNews.com.
Thank you, Mimi.
Thank you, Mimi.
Thank you.
All right, when we come back,
owning Manhattan, season two is out right now on Netflix,
and we have Ryan Sirhan, Tricia Lee,
and Jeffrey St. Armand joining us.
Don't go anywhere.
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Good morning, everybody.
It's DJ NV.
Just hilarious.
Shalameen Nagu.
We are the Breakfast Club.
Lawn LaRose is here as well.
And we got some special guests
in the building this morning.
Season 2 of owning Manhattan is out right now on Netflix.
We have Ryan Sirhan, Tricia Lee, and Jeffrey Say Armand.
Did I say your name right?
All right.
Welcome, guys.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Let's go.
First, I want to say thank you to Ryan.
I told him I called him one day and I said my daughter's in NYU.
She wanted to get into real estate.
And he told me, well, first she has to get a license.
So she got her license in New York, got her license in Jersey.
I called her back.
And he actually gave her a job, which was pretty dope.
And she learned the real estate industry from Sirhan.
And it ends the outs, and then she's now, she's in Jersey and she's working.
So I just want to say thank you.
Thanks, man.
You gave for the guy.
Oh, so he's a real estate agent.
He don't just do it for TV.
The TV is like the last thing.
He's real.
He's a real agent.
That probably happens a lot, though.
People think you don't really do it anymore.
I bump into people in New York on the street all the time.
And they're like, what are you doing in New York today?
I'm like, I live here.
I work in the, oh, it's not on a set in L.A.
I'm like, no, it's real.
It's the most real TV show in the history of the world.
And you're actually working.
Yeah.
But it's because you give actore, like the way you're...
You give actor, really?
Yeah, you look like...
That's the biggest compliment.
Yeah.
When I saw you, that was what I said.
You look exactly like you look on TV.
It's like the look.
Yeah.
Yeah, I try to stay in character.
I shaved my head this summer, and I was recognized less, and it was hard for me.
I went back into costume.
That's all the skin work, right?
I realized that there's a lot of...
At one time, I feel like all on TV, there was nothing but...
real estate shows, right? And they were good. I thought they were great. And then I see like
none. It's like they all, what, what is happening with the real estate industry where people
are either leaving or maybe people are not doing as well as they experience or thought? Why is
that? I mean, we all have feelings about that. I don't think it has to do with the real estate
industry. I think it has to do with media and how people consume media. It used to be. So
Million Dollar Listing was the first show I did in 2012. We did it for 10 years. And that show was
special because you couldn't get access to a $10 million house, right? As a viewer, like you couldn't
see a $50 million penthouse. You had to turn on TV to see what that looked like. Today, everything
is in the palm of your hand. You can go on Sora and invent one if you want to. Right. So the shows now
are no longer about the access. So if you're a, if you want to make a real estate show and all
you have is real estate, no one cares. And I think what makes this show so special, people like
Trisha and Jeffrey, who are characters. They're great people, but they're great people, but they
They are characters in this insane world of New York City real estate.
And that's what people want to see.
The real estate is actually like the bookends, right?
It's the skeleton.
Like the backdrop.
Yeah, it's the backdrop.
And then so a lot of the shows have come off the air.
They've tried and they've been canceled because they suck except for ours.
And then we tell a great story too.
Like how often do you have like a couple that's together, working together, you know, live together and just shoot together.
you know, and actually come from Brooklyn
to go into Manhattan.
So there's interesting storylines
and we really try to like tell it differently
so that the viewer at some point
you're going to get tired
to see the same thing over and over again.
So, I mean, I think the thing
that we really did different
is like we really got into great storytelling
and really visually, when you look at it,
it looks almost like a docu-series.
It doesn't really feel like typical reality TV.
Yeah, yeah.
And how's the market now?
How is the market?
I mean, they're saying
and houses have been on market
the longest in a long time.
Is it a buyer's market?
Is it a buyer's market?
Where should people be looking?
Should they be looking now?
Should they sit it out?
What's your thoughts on it?
I mean, personally, I think it's always a good time to look.
I mean, whenever, like, there's a couple of things.
There's a tale of two markets, I call it.
Because you have, if you look at, you know, luxury sector,
$4 million and up and the data,
you got to be careful, like, what you read and what you hear,
and just really look at the data.
The data shows that there's been a lot of sales in that price point.
And now, conversely, with lower price points,
people are affected by interest rates.
But we do see interest rates are dropping and getting lower.
So then people start to become more active.
think the time is really now and especially this time in the season this is when you can get
deals you know um during this time things like to your point have been sitting on the market for a
little bit but now you can be more aggressive as a buyer so it just find that little comfortable
medium between you know sellers that are realistic about pricing and buyers who are realistic
about where they can land and we can find a deal well i think it's a little different for
us because our brokerage gets quite a bit of visibility so there's the market and then there's
our business which is very different like we get i mean our phones are ringing
we're very busy.
We are listing billions of dollars of real estate.
And I think that owning Manhattan has some part of that.
You know, the Surhant brand has a lot to do with it.
And I think the characters that are at the firm,
I think everyone that is at Sirhant has such their own individual story.
Like, I think, I don't know if it was Ryan or when the producer said,
it's like all of these people just show up
and they all think that they're the lead and there's the main character.
And they just happen to all be sitting in a room.
And that's how it is, because in my mind, I'm the star of the show.
And I think that's the same for everyone else.
You actually are to start the show.
Let's be clear.
But I think that's what's interesting about the brand is it really attracts people that are really like the face of their business and they're comfortable with that.
And they lean into it and they use media and really creative ways to do it.
So our business is very different than the market business right now.
We're grateful for that.
I was going to ask, you know, with the market being bad at in a lot of places and people being broke and just being able to afford, you know, rent at the time, they've been encouraging people to start buying houses.
So that money that they're paying for rent could actually be towards house.
Is there places or some type of grants that you send people to where they could actually get help with doing that?
I think the best help personally, because, I mean, if we're speaking about New York specifically, is to buy together and to get creative about it.
You know, Gen Z is getting that right.
And I think that millennials missed out on that mark.
But when I speak to people, especially all through beds, die, Brooklyn, Brooklyn Heights, wherever, there's so many stories are you and I bought.
And then as soon as we were up on our feet, then we made sure our sister bought.
And then we made sure our cousin bought.
When I talk to people and we're selling these houses, multi-million dollar homes, people
have been in for 20, 30 years, the stories are all the same.
They got creative and they did it together.
Yeah.
You know, it's easier.
You can sell portions of an LLC.
So co-ownership for younger generation is becoming a thing that we do now, that we've never done
before.
So New York City's hard because you can only cut it up a couple different ways.
But like, if you, like, you can take eight cousins in Florida and you can cut up a purchase
price times eight and maybe only two of you live there, but the rest of you are helping.
and it's an investment for them
and you get to ride the market
as the market increases.
And that equity is always gorgeous.
Yeah.
You know, especially, I mean, in New York,
I've watched it for 22 years straight.
And I just, I always tell everyone
we can walk down the block
anywhere in Brooklyn or anywhere in Manhattan
and we feel proud of the work
that we've done for our clients
because if I see you five years from now,
I know I'm going to be the favorite person
you run into today.
Because I know I was a part of that
really smart investment that you've made.
And that feels good in the daily work.
What's the quiet, you know,
pressures y'all carry now?
because of this show.
Because, you know, when you think about your brand, your brokerage, your brokerage,
they're all tied to decisions that are made on this show.
Is there any pressure that comes to that?
Yes.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, you know, someone said to me yesterday, the show is uncomfortably authentic.
And I think to your point about other shows not being on the air anymore,
no one wants to be sold, right?
No one wants to watch stuff that's super produced anymore.
Like, this show watches us in real time, whether deals get done or not,
whether people are happy or not, whether things are going our way or not.
I think all three of us have some sort of mental breakdown this season on camera that we probably
wish was not out there.
And so there's a lot of pressure.
But I think we also understand the role of our responsibility to not just the world, but to our
industry, to show it in as great of a light as we possibly can.
And then make use of it, man.
Like we are so lucky.
It is not lost on us.
Like it's hard enough to get one TV show, let alone.
a big one like this that's on a global network like Netflix that drops all over the world in one day
where people get to say, oh, I'll go work with those people. I mean, it's a massive commercial
for us. And then you need to have it picked up for season two. That's even the bigger.
That's the harder. Or three. Three, we want three now. Everybody go watch it.
Everybody go watch it. What's the next goal? What's the quiet presence for you are?
I think it has changed. I think for season one for me, it was like I, I am showing up as the
black woman and I created this, this pressure for myself that I had to at some point release.
to really give myself that freedom.
And then obviously, I felt that it gave other black women that freedom.
I was like, I'm just going to show up as me.
And y'all are going to love it or leave it.
I don't care.
And I'll give you the realness of who I am,
but I'll also give you all the layers of who I am.
So I'm not going to just show up and be the person that's sassy.
I'm also going to be smart.
I'm also going to be gentle.
I'm going to be vulnerable.
I'm going to be very maternal in some moments.
You know, I can be a teacher in some moments.
I can also check you in other moments.
And so I felt like, let me just show all of that.
And that's the only pressure I'm going to put on myself.
now I feel that the pressure is kind of always showing that we are actual real agents
because that's the question we could ask the most and I mean I can't speak for everyone on the show
but I'm 10 years in I had my 10 year anniversary last week
and another 10 year anniversary as well
but yeah so it's like you're lucky guy I don't know I'm no idea I'm still trying to find
out when you five let me know
But no, it's, to me, it's like, I do feel the need to, you know, just validate my business.
And I never felt that before.
But being on TV, people just decide that you're not actually really doing this.
I have to be on top of my emails to the moment I walk in and talk to you guys and then start right back up the minute I walk out.
My clients don't care nothing about what I'm doing right now or that show they care about their assets.
What about you, Jeffrey?
No, I mean, I think one thing, just to piggyback on what Trisha is saying, I think it's important to understand, like, the vulnerability.
that we reveal on the show because with us part of our story arc is that we're coming from
Brooklyn into Manhattan and there's some great story origins with a new listing that we have like
here on 5th Ave 5 East 59th Street um and the origin story with Trish and how that happened which is
nothing that we plan or stage whatsoever this is all authentic and how that comes full circle the
moment and when you watch the show you'll get to you know to really understand it but it's it really
heartfelt, I would say probably one of the most compelling moments of the season.
I mean, we're shocked. I'm so shocked. I forget the cameras are there. And I'm like,
what? And they catch everything because it was just, yeah, it was such a surprise. Yeah.
But to answer you a question, oh, for me, me, what's really important is what Tricia is to really
make sure that people understand that we know the business. The truth is you have to know the
business inside out. You have to be cognizant of what's happening in real time. You got to be able
to disseminate like what's the truth and how does it really impact you? Because everything, you know,
real estate is really both macro and micro.
So you've got to be able to understand what's micro for your world and the macro piece that
you read from, you know, on every other platform.
So I will say this, though.
I didn't necessarily understand how difficult real estate was, right?
Until I had a daughter in it, right?
Yes.
And I'm watching her with the emails and sending out emails.
And then I'm watching her, she'll get somebody and then she'll go to short apartment
and she'll drive 40 minutes to that apartment.
And then the person to say, I can't do it today.
Yeah.
And how much time it takes.
And you break down how much effort.
energy it goes into doing it because people just see the glitz they never talk about the work you
never get paid for but the work that goes into a friend like jesus yeah i mean we're in it 10 years for a
reason yeah so it just didn't happen right off the bat we're here on owning manhattan or we're just
selling you know 15 20 million dollar properties you have to start from the grind i mean there are times
when you work for months to two months to three months without getting paid like how long did you get
paid on your first deal oh my gosh six months and it was no money at all no money at all so you got
Yeah. And I feel like the shows, they tend to show all the glitz. And there's so much work that we do, we never get paid for. There's so many efforts that we make that nobody cares about. And I feel like being on the show, I want to make sure I share that story because the assumption is when you look really great and maybe Ryan will hire you and then you'll end up on a show and then you'll sell real estate. It's the complete opposite business plan. It's like you've got to do a really great job for even be like on his radar. Yeah, to even end up on the radar. And then being on the show creates pressure too.
because I don't want to put a product out there that I can't sell.
Because, I mean, every time I run into anybody, they'm like, oh, so what happened with, you know, so.
Oh, my God. That's the worst part.
Yeah, it's horrible.
It's horrible.
Because you film in real time.
And so you're like, hey, I just got this listing, this building or this penthouse.
Something like, let's go film it.
And then, but filming doesn't last forever.
You eventually have to stop.
And if it hasn't sold, that's what happens.
And then everyone, oh, what happened?
Oh, did you, did you failed?
You failed in front of the world?
Yes.
At selling an apartment?
that's not that hard and the one thing you don't realize as we're shooting oftentimes we're still
negotiating a real time yeah so we're shooting under the guys of this is going to be sold on the show
and we're just hoping that it get sold like that was the case last season for us i mean it was a
property that we were just we shot it we closed it and like we were still the closing table trying to
close in real time as we were shooting the scene of it being closed yeah and it was like such a
difficult transaction it got like awarded real estate board oh yeah they they won deal of the year
deal of the year for all of new york so it and that's really a
award that goes to you like that's a real
that's a real award that shouldn't have closed
that's the reason for the award the whole industry
gets together to say you actually did it
that was the deal that was on the show first season
so imagine the layers of stress there
you know and you're on TV for the first time as well
yeah but I was going to say so on top of all the stress you're on TV you also have like
your personal lives that are being showed there's a character there
where do y'all find the time to do
all of that work like what do y'all teams like behind the scenes
that help you guys because there's a lot of
interaction and correspondence with trying to close
something there's so much support though but it's just really time management and just having a
support system like thankfully that's part of the reasons why and not wasting time yeah a big
piece of advice I give to people a lot especially younger younger people is you have the time
everyone's got the same amount of hours yep like I have the same amount hours that she has that
Oprah has you know what I mean like we all the same amount of time in the day and do a time audit
like actually just same way if you're trying to lose weight like you do a diet journal to see
like oh wait you're right like I do eat a lot I just eat a little bit all the
the time and then it all adds up same thing with time like if you'll you'll see shoot okay my screen
time wow i did open ticot 72 times today what if i didn't do that what else could i do
you know and so that's like that's an epidemic um and that brain rot right um you know it's
it's real it's totally real which like in in australia now they outlawed social media for kids
under 16 which i think is really going to change the landscape you know country by country by
country and I think it's a major mental health issue of just because it's easier and then you're
never bored and kids need to be bored like they got to figure things out they got to find things
to be difficult and it's one of the harder things about hiring kids now at a school to come work in
real estate is they're like all right well where's the thing where's the thing the thing the thing the thing
like you just sit still and you just need to put in the work and build it never done it before
like they've never built a block house because you can't swipe a block house
What's the one house that you guys didn't sell that bites at you every day?
Oh, my God.
COVID, 2019, going to 2020, a foreign investment fund wanted to buy a building in New York City.
And I'd never sold a building before.
Okay.
And we found a building on the east side.
It's called Copper Tower.
It's the building that looks like a, like a K.
Okay.
It was March, the beginning of March of 2020.
We had a contract out for just under $990 million.
And I had never done a deal like that before.
Like, literally life-changing.
The money that was coming in was heavily backed by oil money.
And then people started getting sick.
And the price of oil drops, the stock market tanks, the deal gets put on ice, and the deal dies.
And then someone else bought it, like, two years later.
And I think about that deal dying.
What would have been your commission?
It would be 2% of basically a billion.
You know?
Yeah.
So it had been, I think, just under $20 million.
And I think about that four times.
a day. So that one, that jumped right. I didn't think about that deal because it was just so,
but we all have those. I mean, if you're thinking about getting into real estate and you're thinking
about your career, anybody can do it because it's 75, 80 hours. You click online. The barrier
of entry is incredibly low, but the chance of success is even lower, right? 90% of everyone who gets
a license bails because there is no benefit, there's no salary. You have to eat what you kill
and no one tells you what to do. But if you put in the work, if you're good,
to people, you follow up, you can have a completely limitless career.
And I think that opportunity is part of the magic that the show also follows,
because it does follow all the dead deals because our job is to lose.
The job is to swing so much that you lose.
You take so many shots at the net that you just, you miss them all because the ones that go
in are worth it, you know, and you're only as good as your last deal in this business.
I was selling an apartment before Uber came out to one of the taxi kings of New York City
who owned all the medallions, super rich.
Right? Super, super rich, buying an apartment in lower Manhattan.
It's like $25 million, full floor, insane deal.
But it's new construction.
So you go to contract like two years before you close.
In those two years, Uber gets approved to come into New York City.
Taxis basically disappear.
And the value of that medallion, which went from like $1.1.2 million, went to like $200,000.
So his net worth went from here all the way to here, and he couldn't close.
and I remember, like, they were going to take his deposit, which in a building like that is, I think, 20%, so 20% of about, you know, of, uh, it's like five million bucks.
You know, you know, say, by five million dollars you lose.
And he, like, grabbed me by my suit lapel and he put me up against the wall.
I tell the story because I put it in a book and he never came after me, but he, um, uh, and he was like, he was like, I've put people under the bridge.
if you don't get me out of this, you're next.
And I had to find him an attorney to try to get.
And we found something in the offering plan,
which is the book that the Attorney General approves,
one line that the developer hadn't actually done their job on,
and we got him out of his deposit, and I'm still here today.
Jesus.
That one was a rough one.
And how do you deal with people yelling at you, right?
Because at the end of the day, you're doing a job for a client, right?
And you're trying to do the best job that you can.
But sometimes I'm sure things don't go the way
They want, but the disrespect and I see it sometimes.
So how do y'all deal with that?
It's never you.
You have to, it's hard at the beginning until you understand that people never really grow up.
They're just disguised as like 40-year-old men, you know?
And they don't know who else to take it out on, so they take it out on you.
Like Mary, yeah, but like married couples, like, is she going to yell at her husband?
You know what?
It's easier to yell at Jeffrey because she's angry at the situation, not necessarily angry at us.
So, like, you always just have to detach and understand that they're upset about the situation.
situation and you have to be able to empathize with it and then you just mirror and say i understand
if i could yell at myself i would like i'm here with you you just keep you agree you agree you agree
and then you hit them with solution solution solution and then they don't know what to do and they say
just fix it right and that's how you that's how you get through it and a lot of this like we wear
multiple hats i mean part of it is therapist right you know being able to understand be empathetic
to what they're going through and then realizing this is someone's most you know the biggest asset
And so they're most expensive asset ever.
So you got to really understand where it's coming from.
Again, it's not really you.
It's just them.
And they're like, oh, my God, this isn't happening the way I expected it to happen.
So you just have to understand and just have answers and solutions to whatever the issue is in like right then and there.
Most of the time people are just mad at themselves.
Yeah.
And so they just take it out on other people.
Yeah.
I do that.
So you break down in the trailer.
Yes.
You break down just because of all of the like pressure.
How often do y'all break down?
even though it's not
once before lunch
and then one time after dinner
yeah typically
11 a.m.
usually
It varies with the deals
and what we're dealing with
you know like there are times
where you know
deals just fall apart
and you do everything you can
and they still fall apart
you know
what was your part
like what was it exactly
like what is the biggest
this is the cherry on top
that now the tears are flowing
that scene
yeah that's in the season finale
was not anticipated
it wasn't like planned
or anything
and just goes to
how real this show is and how uncomfortable a lot of it is.
This show is also really funny.
You know, it's very aspirational.
It's very sexy, glitzy, big real estate and all that.
But then at the same time, it shows all the gutters of the business, too.
And there's just a lot.
You know, there's a lot going on.
I bootstrapped the business for four years by myself, you know, on 100% of it.
Everything's on me.
Do I grow?
Do I not grow?
People are angry.
People are happy.
There's personal pressures.
There's no time.
I sleep four hours a day.
Why did I ever do this?
Should I just move?
Like, you know, there's just like a lot of this.
And I've no one to talk to you because everyone is biased.
The therapist is biased.
Your spouse is biased.
Your friend, the company, my mom is biased.
You got a biased therapist?
Yeah.
But they're biased to you.
They want what's best for you.
Always.
He's a therapist.
I do.
If you're a therapist and you're watching this, my email is Ryan at surhant.com.
You've got a whole lot of residence for a real estate.
Yeah, please.
I need, I need a mental help.
And I was talking to my ex-assistant who I just have like a very friendly relationship with.
And he was in my email for five years.
So he just knows my life.
And it was the first time I'd actually just, like, talked about everything that was going on.
And, you know, I think I say, like, I focus on the work because the work keeps me focused.
And I don't know what else to do.
And then there was just an awkward silence.
And then I just lost it.
And then the cameras are there.
And I'm like, oh, Jesus.
I feel like everyone found out about that.
They're like, Ryan was crying.
And we're like, he doesn't have any emotions.
How do you pull that off?
That man has no heart.
Do you still speak to the people from a million dollar list?
Because I feel like they're just just off the face of the planet.
Like any of those guys anymore?
No, I'm crazy.
No, I haven't.
You don't see them anymore.
You don't hear any shows about it.
I just realize this is the different.
It's not the same show.
This is a minute?
This is a different show.
But none of those guys, there were big characters.
Start with season one.
They were big characters and you just don't see them anymore.
And it's just weird that you just.
Only Manhattan is my fifth reality show.
I did four for Bravo, a million-dollar listing, a wedding show, a renovation show,
and then a show called Sellet, like Sirhant, which we turned into Sellit.com,
which is a sales training business.
And then owning Manhattan, which we push over to Netflix.
And I think what's cool for us is, I think for other shows and the other guys, right,
a lot of people, like you talked about, they get on TV and they want to be on TV.
They want to be famous.
They want to become influencers and sell toasters or whatever.
The three of us have, like, fame as a byproduct of our ability to do more.
more business and build the greatest careers of all time and I think the audience sees that and so
they keep giving us more because it's just real and so I built a sales team my first you know
career as a real estate agent on the back of bravo you know million dollar listing and now we're
building a company and kind of a met away on the backs of Netflix and people get to watch like going
from a couple of us at a dinner table to okay there's 1,500 of us now in 15 states yeah what does that
look like and then just watch that whole
Jenna to raising money for the first time
getting fired, having people quit
on you. And so yeah, so I think the
other guys, you know, were, I mean,
I think there's a lot of one-hit wonders out there
across the board. You see the music, you see it in sports,
you know, and so we work
really, really hard to focus on the work. If you take care of the work,
the work will take care of you. We appreciate you guys
for joining us. Thanks so much. Season 2 of owning
Manhattan is on Netflix right now, Ryan
Sirhan, Trisha Lee, and Jeffrey say, oh my, thank you so much.
How about our niece? How about our niece?
Our niece is looking for something. Yeah, no, she's
come right to Brooklyn. I already spoke to it.
Okay, say no more.
Yes. All right. It's the breakfast club. Good morning.
Let's get to the latest with Lauren.
Lauren becoming a straight fast.
Tell her. She gets him to somebody that knows somebody.
She gets to detail.
I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.
She'd be having the latest on this.
The latest with Lauren La Rosa.
Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details.
Sometimes she have a little bit everything.
Well, it's the latest.
On the breakfast club.
Talk to me.
GZ sat down with Bishop T.D.
Jake's for his podcast next chapter and they had a conversation in full about his life and some of the
things that he's been through but jizi opened up a lot about his divorce and what he learned um so
let's take a listen to jizi on what he learned from his marriage and his divorce what did you learn
from it i learned i was a great husband i got a beautiful daughter out of a situation so i there's no
regrets there but i learned a lot about myself i learned about you know my preferences for things
the type of space that I need
type of moments that I need to decompress
about certain things
and this just unselfish
nature that I was
selfish in my prior life
and I think
just going forward in life
it just taught me how to like
give someone else grace
and actually listen
to understand
rather than just to listen to reply
because when you're sharing the life
with somebody you know it's almost like
Like you don't become one, but this is a partnership, right?
And so for me, it's almost like I've never experienced anything like that.
Yeah, so there are, there's a, you know, conversation now around this clip because people are trying to figure out.
Because he says, you know, I felt like I was a great husband and people were upset to hear him say that because it ended in a divorce.
But now what I, this is what I think people are missing because there was another part of the interview where he talks about what he learned, which I thought was actually really powerful.
and it was a lot of accountability on his part.
People are missing that, you know,
you go through things, you learn, and you find out what you did good,
what you did back. Let's take a listen to Jeezy on
what he says he would do differently.
I would definitely take my time. I've learned
now that friendship is
the biggest key to anything.
I mean, I think when you become
friends with someone and you're like
really invested in the friendship,
it just builds a different type of
foundation. I would make sure that the community
is as strong as the foundation
because it takes a community, like,
to keep you know to keep you accountable and have people that you can process with to be honest with
you i didn't have a lot of great examples you're right of relationships and i do want to say this though
because i felt like when people hear me speak about like what i went through my mom and all this stuff
they're like oh you went into a relationship or marriage with mommy issues i had been working on
that stuff so that had nothing to do with my timeline with my marriage it was a humbling experience
to have to, like, make sure that you're present enough
to hear what somebody else who's saying?
There should be no judgment there.
He's right.
But did the good brother of Jeezy learn that Dr. Umar was right?
Can he talk about that?
When I...
Did he talk about that?
He didn't...
Did he learn that a lot of black women around him were right?
Because a lot of black women were saying he should have been with a sister.
Not saying there's anything wrong with the relationship that he was in.
I'm just saying that when he speaks about community and things of that nature.
Sounds like he's saying Dr. Umar was correct.
No, it sounds like he said he was...
Whoa.
Sound like you need to say he's working on himself, right?
Because he was talking about the fact that he was selfish in a relationship and things like that.
I heard him say he should be with a black woman.
Me too.
I heard both things, but I heard that when I heard this part of it, I said,
oh, he realized that he didn't need to be there.
Yeah, absolutely.
And his last thing, Jenkins, you can only give that to another black woman.
You see what I'm saying?
You know?
Jenny Jenkins never sounded.
Yeah, no, it did not.
That sounded crazy.
Uh-huh.
I mean, it sounded like, oh, Jenny Jenkins, you expect one presentation to walk in the room, but then, you know.
A Jenkins is like.
Like, no, uh-uh.
My marriage.
Get it.
Where did that's name back?
To me, he said he needs to work on himself, and he was a lot selfish, and he had to be more in that relationship more open, right?
Talk about things that's not just he said he wasn't.
I call it right fighting.
Right fighting is you just want to be right in a relationship, but you don't want to listen.
And he said he had to go to that.
That's not what we heard.
We heard that.
I would expect you to say that because you were in international.
You know, get black and you, uh, whatever you are.
I am black, sir.
But I continue.
He just learned how he just learned in marriage that is not just about him.
Yeah.
I don't think that he, you know, was saying anything else.
It's just like, okay, oh, yeah, this thing is about not, it's not just me.
It's a union.
It's like me and you.
I got to be emotionally intelligent enough to care about how you feel, too.
You know, I heard him say you should have been on a black woman.
You know what else is funny?
Every time Jezy does these kind of interviews, because I remember when he did it with Nia Long
and I did it with Bishop T.D.J.
I get a bunch of people hitting me, a bunch of ladies that I know, why you don't hook me up with G.
Damn.
Because I have.
Some type of matchmaker.
They like with GZB in these sentences.
Because he sounds very accountable, very mature, very grown, very like, you know.
It's not giving snowman.
No, it's given, uh, no, it's not.
It's not.
What's his name?
What's his name?
What you mean?
What's his name?
His bro name?
Jay Jenkins.
Is Jay Jenkins for real?
It's given Hill brothers.
It's given Hill brother.
It's not giving him snowman.
He's given Jake Jenkins.
Jay, not no Jake.
Oh, Jay Jenkins.
Yeah, because he's.
even talking to hear about like his finances
and learning what to do with the finances
and what differently dating wise
he's going to do this time around
he's going to do this time around you know
he ain't cursing he's very calm
I don't realize
god damn
she's talking about
she's dripping all over the floor
we can't get him no
why you're so jealous
well you married and you
definitely married and you
definitely married
she's in a relationship
you said they wrapped up over cheesy
Jesus.
Well, in the next
that is crazy
because if we was down to him,
you'd be like,
you hate black men
and blah, blah, blah.
Look, that.
And then we like,
shout out to Jeezy.
He's grown.
You made some mistakes
you learned from me.
He's like, y'all broke up.
Shout out of,
you know,
when you get somebody a gift
and they love the gift
more than that.
But he's been handling that shake with.
Over there,
Tombo,
Jinkin.
Yeah.
Like, yeah,
absolutely.
You got your flowers.
That's that damn shakewood
That is very childish
That was so childish
And the chat's seen it
The chat's been watching you all day
That was so childish
In the next hour
We're going to talk about some things
Because
Howard Stern
Has some things to get off his chest
About Kim Kardashian
We didn't get to it here
But we're going to definitely bring it in the next hour
All right
Ish, old school Howard?
It's kind of
He references old school Howard
All right
Now shake weight king
Who are you giving you a donkey to me?
Four after the hour
We need a man named
Maurice Nolan Evans
to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word
with him, please. All right. We'll get to that next. It's the
Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Donkey up the day.
Damn, the he-haw, did it?
It's time for Donkey of the Day.
I'm not trying to be Donkey Today no more.
They should be embarrassed by what they already did.
I'm not making these people do these things.
Called Donkey of the Day, and it really caught me off guard.
Damn, Solomon, who got the donkey
of the day to day.
That's crazy, right?
How's somebody going to get mad at me
because I try to be a good co-worker
and tell them
they sweatsuits smell a little used.
You're an ass, man.
I just asked that they work out this morning.
I'm like, you know, you got to be around people today.
Anyway, don't here today.
What's wrong with him, man?
For Wednesday, December Tiff,
goes to Maurice Nolan Evans.
Okay, he's 25 years old,
and he's been charged with murder.
After a parking lot dispute ended in him
killing a man named Dominique Goodman.
First thing's first, rest in peace to that brother, Dominique, man.
Let's go to WSBBTV for the report, please.
That's why I don't argue with people, man.
I'll advise anybody on that.
Don't argue with nobody.
That's advice from a Bojangles customer
after he learned why the fast food restaurant was closed.
I told him an employee here is accused of
killing the father of his co-worker
and the store's parking lot.
Maurice Evans faces murder,
aggravated assault and felony possession of a firearm
during a crime and the death of Dominique Goodman.
metal police say a manager sent Evans home for the day Sunday afternoon.
Officers say instead of going home, Evans waited for about an hour for Goodman to arrive.
And when the guy got out, he got out shooting.
Marlene lately says she is a family friend of the Goodman's.
She says Goodman's daughter works at the restaurant and called her father for help after getting into a dispute with Evans.
Goodman then came to the restaurant to check on his daughter.
He very protective of his children just like anybody would be.
He never expected it to end with him dead.
Why, why, why, why, why, rest in peace, Dominique Goodman again, man.
You know, I got four daughters.
My daughter comes to me and tells me you picking on her, you know, she had a dispute with a grown man.
I got to come highlight you about it, okay?
And now I'm dead because you lack emotional intelligence.
I haven't read in this story or heard in this story where Dominique had a gun.
I haven't read in this story where he was aggressive.
I don't know what was said to this 25-year-old man, Maurice Evans, by Dominique.
but I know that whatever it was
it wasn't worth Dominique being
unalive for it and it's not worth
Maurice having a murder charge. I love Bojangles.
Okay, I had a Boatberry biscuit
the week of Thanksgiving. I ordered two
actually. Okay, I only ate one
because that's about 350, 370 calories.
But the moral of the story is
Boarberry biscuits ain't dying for you, man.
Okay, Bojangles ain't worth dying over.
You a manager at Bojangles, a manager
at a restaurant period, a manager at a fast food chain.
Managers at restaurants
and fast food chains must hear
and take customer and employee complaints seriously.
Okay, managers are the first line of defense
for the culture of any establishment,
not just culture, productivity, and legal risk.
Okay, I don't know what you said to this man's daughter,
but what if what you said was liable
and her father coming to talk to you about it
and enabled you to see a different perspective,
change your behavior,
and shift some things around
before you and Bojangles got sued, okay?
All you had to do, young man,
was listen to what his father's complaints were
and move on.
but no you decided to grab a pistol and shoot and kill this man for what we got to shed our fragile eagles people it's
2025 all right this is the year of the snake 25 was the year of the snake i don't know if y'all know
that okay the snake year means shedding okay you shed all that bad energy bad behavior this is about
transformation and new beginnings and it's a nine year okay two plus two plus five equals nine
this is an endings year okay a karmic completion year and boy
Oh boy, Maris, have you just embarked on a new beginning called prison?
All right?
Now, there was a part of me that initially thought this is why we got to teach our kids to stand up for themselves, but I don't know how old his daughter was.
What if she was 16 and the manager Marise is 25?
She went home to tell her daddy about this grown man picking on her.
So he pulled up, you know, even if she was 16 and knew how to stand up for herself.
Clearly this dude, Maurice, was unstable and might have ended up harming the young lady in some way.
You just never know nowadays.
And this is why everyone should just mind their business.
I agree with the brother that was talking at the beginning of the thing.
Play the clip again, right?
That's why I don't argue with people, man.
I'll advise anybody on that.
Don't argue with nobody.
Stop right there.
I don't argue with people unless it's on the radio or on a podcast.
Okay, mind your business.
Mind your black-owned business.
Mind the business that pays you.
Managers shouldn't be picking on an employee.
Okay.
The only thing you should be telling that employee to do is they're just.
job. If you get complaints from employees,
employees, parents, customers,
just listen to the complaints and
adjust accordingly. You do not grab your pistol
and kill them for complaining
about whatever they was complaining about. And the fact
I even have to say that is nuts.
But welcome to the current world we live in.
Please let Remi Ma give Maris Evans
the biggest he-ha. He-ha!
You stupid, motherfucker-a-you-dum.
Sad. Sad. So sad.
Tragic.
All right. Well, thank you for that dog.
here today. Yes, ma'am.
All right. When we come back, Swayvo
Swain will be joining us. That is the son of
Angie Stone and DeAngelo.
He has a new song called Dove Soar
and we're going to talk to him when we come back. I actually don't go
anywhere as to Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody
is D.J. NV.J.N.V.J.
is hilarious. Salomey and the guy. We are the
Breakfast Club. Lawn LaRose is here as well.
We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed.
We have Swaveau Twain.
Welcome, brother. How you feeling?
I'm feeling blessed, man. Thank you all for having me.
Now, for people that don't know, you are the son of Angie Stone and DiAngelo.
Yes, sir.
So first, we'll say, you know, send the other condolences and well wishes and everything.
How are you doing now?
How are you feeling, man?
I thank you for the condolences, but, man, they are in a better place to me, man.
They ain't paying no bills no more.
They're good, man.
They're good, man.
It's taking the moment by moment, for real.
Every day is a different day, different emotion, I'm sure.
Yeah, it'd be Sunday is better than others for sure.
but we're still pushing, man.
We still pushing.
When I think about you, man, I think about you,
you know, you had two, you know, legends as parents, right?
Yes, yes, sir.
When did you first realize that that wasn't normal?
In school, like, kindergarten, for real.
Like, I was always type,
I ain't never really tell people in school,
like, I just go to school and just be Mike.
But if I get into trouble or anything,
and my mom had to come up to the school,
like, the teacher would be the same thing,
parents, so she know who she is, but
she's going to wait to, in front of the
whole class, be like,
it's such and such a your mama, and
I might say yes, I might say no,
and then, like, the whole class
or no, and then they're going to ask their
mama, and it'll just be a whole little thing,
so, yeah, that's when
I realized that. How was growing up?
Did you grow up, I don't want to say normal, because you
had two iconic stars
were you always on the road. How was
growing up with? No, it was, it was
normal at time.
So, like, in my earlier years, I went with my mom.
Like, I was, you know, with grandma, so I was in, Columbia, South Carolina.
8-0-3 to met.
For sure, 100%.
And, you know, my mama came and got me from Columbia when I was about 12 or 13 and moved me to Atlanta.
So when I first moved to Atlanta, that was like a super culture shock.
I'm like, yeah, everybody out here got money.
Like, we stayed right, like, $2 down for Pac-Man Jones, and he was terned.
Like, so it was normal, but I tried to be as normal as I could.
But then when people started figuring it out, it was just doing extra stuff, you know.
You went back to Columbia?
Did you go to USC or my Trevor?
No.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
I go back to Columbia just to visit.
I probably got like a three-day limit in Columbia.
What was one lesson your father taught you about, like, artistry?
And then one lesson your mother taught you about this.
my daddy like we never really
sometimes we would discuss like
music notes and music theory but we didn't really discuss
stuff like that he really put me on like mindset things
like this how you need to be with your business
this is how you need to be with your team
like this is how you need to be with your mental
when you get overwhelmed things like that
and my mama she ain't have to
show me nothing like I've seen it
like my mama's like
she'll be in the hospital and get out of the hospital that night and go to go do the show and nobody know
you know what I'm saying she was a real soldier gangster so she ain't have to say nothing I was watching I was living
it with her and I saw your video that you posted on your Instagram and you just well first of all
I just want to say watching you speak at their funerals it you just there's still like such a joy there
or something that I didn't understand I've never been through what you've been through but I don't
don't know if you can kind of like talk us through when we're seeing you. You're like making
everybody laugh and you're with your family and it's the push-ups and y'all just having a good
time. I'm like, how is he able to, you know, do that for everybody in a situation he's in?
I mean, that's my personality. Like, I'm not a complainer. You know what I'm not like
a woe is me guy. And I'm always trying to like bring the vibes, you know what I'm saying? So
in a moment like this when everything be morbid and dark,
Like, I'm going to make everybody laugh.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Because that's how my mom was.
Like, she was so funny.
Like, she's the funny person you know, but she ain't telling no jokes.
So I just, I just always try to keep it like, man.
You know, even at funeral's life, you know, not for nothing.
A funeral would be for the living.
They don't be for the dead because they're gone already.
So, you know, let's laugh and talk about the good time.
That's not, you know, as much as we can't.
You know what's interesting.
I can tell how much faith you have in God
because, you know, when you first started
the conversation, you said, I mean,
they're in a better place. Like, if you were a true
believer, that's really, that really should be the mindset, right?
100%. Yeah.
Yeah, no, this is, man,
when they, when they leave here,
you really, like, as their son,
I think I'm really seeing
how much they were actually shouldering
on the day-to-day. Like,
you know, especially being in the music,
been in my mom's been in a sense.
forever ago and my dad is the same thing so you know shifting from labor to labor by the time you get the
2025 the business be all messed up you know what I'm saying you know you try to fix it and work on it
but they just unfortunately ran out of time so now you know I'm fighting that fight for them so I think
it's I'm like damn y'all was doing this every day like this what y'all was battling with and
still going to work and still dealing with my on top of that I can't because sorry y'all but um
Yeah, man, they were, they were some soldiers, man.
What gave you the music, I don't want to say what gave you to music,
but when did you say I want to start singing?
When did you know you had that shit, you could sing?
When I moved to Atlanta and seeing the rich kids, they were a little bit older than me,
and they had the hottest thing in Atlanta.
I'm like, oh, this was going on?
And, you know, I started, I still was really running from me,
but maybe, like, 15, 16, my mom would bought this whole studio set up for her.
in the house and I ain't
never used it so I started
going down there recording myself
figuring it out and
before you know I don't did about 50
60 songs I don't win to play
or something she actually really loved it
you know what I'm saying so when she did that
she just put the battery in my back and I was just going hard
from there and what did your dad say
about your music because they said he was a hard
critique when it came to music now for sure
like I'm not going to lie
just be real with you
my daddy
didn't really
embrace it and say
go ahead and go crazy son
he didn't do that
after my mama passed
really? Yeah like
he ain't
he never really wanted me
doing music because
everything he went through with the business
you know what I'm saying he's like
son I don't want you in a shit
you know what I'm saying
but it's like man
I'm going to work in a warehouse
like I'm tired of the car center like
I'm cold you know what I'm
But as my mom passed, he really tapped in.
He was, like, very impressed.
And that's all I ever really wanted, and that.
Just in the hear, and then.
Get that approval.
Yeah.
How do you call about your own identity while still acknowledging the legacy you come from?
That's been my battle all of my life.
But I can't do nothing but be me.
Like, when you hear my music, it's like you can hear them in it,
but it's still me.
I'm doing a whole different thing.
And I ain't trying to battle them
or trying to live up to what they did.
They already did.
They didn't went to the mountain.
I'm on my own journey, you know,
Swave or Twain.
And I can't run from who I am,
and I ain't trying to,
but I'm not trying to.
I can't compete with that.
And I don't want to.
Did you do records with them with your parents?
Yeah, I'm on my mama last album.
Me and her got a son together.
Me and my mama and my sister.
Mr. Diamond, we have a song together that I'm a release.
And my father never got to work together, though I think that's, like, no one regret.
We ain't never get to do nothing.
You got me on mom for sure.
I saw you also talk about the, you know, the time that you spent with your dad.
It was like a week or a couple weeks that you guys got.
And just after your mom passed away, the time that you guys were spending together.
And you said you finally saw your parents as just like people because there was a lot of things that,
I guess you had in one way in your mind
and then when you and your dad spent that time
after your mom passed away you saw him so
differently. So
yeah man, my
you know my dad
he moved in a certain way
you know like
and I always think he was just being extra
but when we did
my mother's funeral we had
the repass and my dad
was in the city the whole day
so he hit me like so I'm going to put up and pull up and pull up
but he didn't show up
the whole funeral. And then the whole
repass happened he didn't show up either. So I'm like
late again, you know what I'm saying? But
he pulled up like at the last possible second
at the repast.
And he came straight
to me. And
instead of my family in
South Carolina treat him like a regular
person here for the funeral,
they all went mobbed him like
you Justin Bieber or something.
Phone's out. Yeah. And I'm
like I, there's a lot of my family that
did that I don't fucking to this day.
You know what I'm saying?
Because it's like, man, we just put my mom in the ground.
So when I seen that, I said, oh, wow.
Now you understood.
This is why he, this is why he'd be moving in this type of manner.
Because it's like, he ain't want to even make it about him.
He just wanted to be there for me.
You know what I was in?
Did you talk to any of your family about that?
Or you just was like, you know what?
Action speed.
I don't want to talk.
Yeah, I don't talk.
They showed their ass without him.
And he was dealing with cancer at that time.
I went in looking back at the pictures like yeah he probably was but I ain't even know
like I ain't no idea like I ain't I ain't never seen my daddy with an ailment or nothing so
when they came to that situation it was it's shocked there about it definitely shocked me
I ain't I ain't never seen my dad that's sick or nothing so you found out like the rest of the
world down there like down there like I knew I knew he was battling with it but I didn't know
how bad it was.
Did you get a chance to, like,
you know what I said, say your goodbyes and everything?
Yeah, man, I spent the last,
down there, like, last week together,
you know, I was up there with him.
And we was just, just talking and laughing
and listening to music,
and, you know, I ain't,
I ain't really wanted to see me sad or nothing like that.
So I was just like, we, you know,
we're going to five out.
Me, my little brother, my little sister,
we all was there.
You know what I'm just.
You don't got to answer this if you don't want to, but what was your perspective, like, knowing that you had just lost your mom earlier this year, and now you're spending your last moments with your pops?
Did you even look at it at the last moments?
Yeah.
Yeah, I knew why I was there, you know, but I don't know, man.
I think that was just, in my mind, I'm like, man, this is just what's going on in my life right now.
like this was going on
I definitely can't question God
you know but I'm just
take this
I'm gonna really take this time
and cherish it
you know what I'm saying
and you know
I'm gonna wipe my face up
when I started crying
because I don't want him to start crying
and you know
man we're listening to his music
we're listening to Earth winter fire
you know like
yeah looked at me one time
he looked at me
and he like
he looking at me like that son
I see where you at
in life like you
I remember when I was your age
I was just getting ready to drop my second album
I was just seeing all the pressure that was on me
I was like I'm looking at you
and like I see you know what I'm saying
so I don't know
I was just being there
being in that moment
and you have your song a Dovesore
that is a dedication to your mom and your dad
at what point did you start writing
that song like after your mom passed away
Like, when were you okay enough to try and put things in music in further with your father?
So it's crazy.
I was in the studio making that song probably about two days before I got the call about my daddy.
So when I was making, originally making the song, it wasn't even about.
It wasn't even about my dad's really about my mom.
The first part, but I was getting writers blocked on it.
So I did that probably two days later I got the call, like, you need to,
clean like doctor's like me to get your ass up there so i went up in new york
did that and they came back to the line i was working on it but i couldn't i couldn't really
come up with the words so after we did the funeral and i can't i came back like probably
the night before i flew out to come back home after the funeral i finally like broke the writers
blocking was able to finish the song so yeah man i don't be working that song for the last month for
And you said on your song
You say, I know God had a chuckle
When I told him my plans
Yeah, man
What were your original plan?
Definitely
It definitely wasn't going to two films this year
Right
But now
So my mama passed
The morning after my birthday
She had a show
On my birthday
And
You know, for the last year or two
I've been opening up for my mom
On the show
So I usually go with her
just to make sure she good, first of all.
You know, but for some reason, she just didn't want me to come to this one.
You know, she told you that?
Yeah, I know.
Like, right before she left, she's like, son, you got your own career.
You're getting ready to do your rollout.
You don't need to come to this.
You know, just stay home.
And I'm like, Ma, you sure?
And she's like, no, I'm positive.
But she made me come to all the rehearsals for the show.
But the day before, she's like, no, I don't want you to come.
And, you know, at the time in March, my PR right here, it'll tell you,
like, I had a whole album done, rollout, got my little budget together,
and I was getting ready to do that, and then the morning and after,
everything changed.
So that's what that lyric comes from.
Like, I had a plan, but God had something different.
Like, no, they ain't, what you're thinking, that ain't about to be that, brother.
Because you'd have been on the bus with her.
Yeah.
Man.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
What's one conversation with your dad and mom
that changed your direction in life?
Not even just musical, just as a man.
Man, my dad has said me one day, he's like,
son, you got to choose your piece over everything.
You know, I think it was a point in my life
where I was just being pulled in so many different ways.
And, you know, it was draining me.
Like, you know, my mom had been dealing with, you know, her health.
I've been essentially like a caretaker for her
for the last four or five years
you know people didn't know that
and you know she did a good job
of hiring it but
you know there's a lot of serious situations
and you know I had to you know
sacrifice a lot you know and I'll do it again
you know because that's my mom
and I know she'll do it for me
but you know
yeah I was just talking to my dad
and he was like man
you know you do what you do for your mom
but all the rest of that man you got to choose your piece
of everything and I really started
implementing that and it helped me a lot
10 years from now what do you want people to say about
you that has nothing to do with your parents
I just want people to say that I was a genuine guy
or I helped them some type of way
or you know a lot of people being hitting me
like throughout this process
like man I don't know how you doing it
and I'm like, man, I ain't doing nothing,
but a whole lot of crying and praying.
If I, you know, if I could be a,
if you can look at me and think you can get through
because I'm getting through, then, you know what I'm saying?
That's fine.
All right, there you have it.
Swayvo Twain.
Swayvotwit.
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sometimes you have a little bit of everything.
Well, it's the latest.
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Talk to me.
So Howard Stern had to address some accusations
that Kim Kardashian made last week on episode seven of their reality show.
What did that come on?
Hulu.
They have a big partnership with Hulu.
So Kim Kay was on the show
When she was talking about her 2016 parish robber room
She was robbed in her hotel room for all the jewelry
And she alleges that Howard Stern
Basically didn't believe her
And made a whole mockery of it on his show
Let's take a listen to Kim Kay talking about Howard Stern
Howard Stern
Was like famously mocking it all the time
And saying that it was just I'm sick
And it's such a joke
And I made it all up
I remember he was so defiant about it
Okay
Yes
I was literally up there
So she said this
And she's also said something similar
around Kanye West as well too
But so she said this
And then Howard Stern said
Oh no we're not going to let that fly
Not at all because that is not what I said
So he responds with his original comments
Because you know his show was recorded
He responds with his original comments
Let's take a listen to the original comments
If this woman was robbed at gunpoint
By a bunch of dudes
And they threw her in a bathtub
And tied her up or whatever they did
I mean that is
That is frightening
That is frightening.
If it is a farce, and really, they should go to jail for that.
Well, I don't think it is.
But, you know what, there were no security cameras in the area.
So there's no footage of what went on.
The one time the Kardashians don't have a camera.
Yeah, it's something really going on, something real.
First of all, we live in an era where you should question everything you hear, especially because of the, and everything you see nowadays, because of the area that we live in.
And she's a reality show star.
So why wouldn't you think everything of the storyline?
When she said mockery, I thought I was going to hear him be like,
oh, you got wrong.
I thought it was going to be something.
He basically said, if it happens, it's frightening.
And I feel sorry for it.
But he was like, something doesn't sound right.
What's wrong with saying?
Right.
And he didn't say that either in me.
Well, he said, God damn.
He said, Robin said, I don't think it's untrue.
And he said, I don't either.
He literally said, I don't either.
He said, if it happened, it's tragic.
If it was a farce, blah, blah, it's jail.
And let's just to be clear, because in another episode of the Kardashians,
she brought up her ex
she doesn't say Kanye West
but during that time she was with Kanye
and she says that even her ex
accused her of faking the robbery for a TV show
around that time people did believe
that Kim had faked the robbery
for the show because they thought that it was
very ironic that there were no cameras with her
and that there was no security with her
knowing that she had all this jewelry in the room
and you know all the things that people knew she would be
in Paris at the time
her security had dropped her off and made sure she was in her room
her room and then went out with her sisters
and which wasn't unnormal for them
because the security guard would secure the whole family.
But people were just saying, right, so yes.
But people were, people at that time and a lot of outlets, it wasn't just Howard Stern.
A lot of outlets were just trying to put the pieces together and saying how far fetched this was.
And they didn't believe her.
Some people didn't believe her.
But Howard Stern comes back in on his show and basically says, if I had something to say, I've said a lot of crazy things, I get to it.
Let's take a listen to Howard Stern.
On the latest episode of the Kim Kardashian show, she accused me of saying that she faked.
her Paris robbery attempt and she's very emotional about it.
Fortunately, anyway, in this case, our show is taped.
So we went back and looked up what I said and nothing could be further from the truth.
Now, tell me if I'm wrong, I would characterize that discussion as a very fair assessment
that some people are saying it's fake, which was true.
And we said, we don't think it's fake.
We think that she was, she went through something horrible.
Some guys came into her room and threw her in a bathtub and pointed a gun at her.
And I said that's really frightening.
By the way, let me say something.
I have said so many awful things in my career.
You don't need to make up stuff.
And also the fact that she put words in Howard's mouth for TV
is exactly why Howard thought that the robbery was probably a storyline as well.
Now y'all see where I was getting with bringing this in.
Because of all the people that you're going to say said something,
Howard Stern is not the one.
At all, he's going to clear it up instantly or repeat what he said.
So, you know.
Yeah, that's not what I was saying.
I was saying the fact that she put words in Howard Stern's mouth for TV.
TV is exactly why Howard thought
that the robbery was for TV as well.
And then all of people... She creates storyline.
Right. Right. And then all the people
who did say it was fake, like publicly.
And you didn't go at them,
but you went at Howard Stern who didn't
say it was fake. But it was a lot of people
that did. Well, by the way...
People were just asking questions, too.
By the way, Kim did that for exactly this.
I'm going to use Howard as a storyline
because I know Howard going to go back and talk about it.
It'll become a talking piece on the other show
because I had to ask you, what
What is the show even come on?
I didn't know the show was still long.
Yeah, it's still long.
It used to come on Bravo, right?
No, they were on E.
They had that big relationship with Ryan Seacrest on E.
But yeah, so speaking of other things in the news that might be real, might not be,
Joe Tocopina, Wendy Williams' attorney was on Nightline,
and he's saying that she'll be out of her guardianship potentially this year,
which is like, we only have weeks left of this year.
Let's take a listen to Joe.
What's the plan you have to get her out of the guardianship,
And when can we expect some movement in court?
The plan is this.
There are guardianship attorneys, and we're watching and waiting.
They've assured Wendy by years end she'll be out of guardianship.
No guardianship should feel like a sentence.
And honestly, Wendy's does, Wendy's feels like a sentence.
She said it was $18,000 a month she was paying this.
Approximately, yeah, imagine.
Just imagine of her money, not the state's money, her money.
But if she does get free of this,
is there still going to be somebody that's watching over her
to make sure that everything is, quote unquote, okay?
So from what I was told once I saw this, because that's a pretty tight timeline to, you know, say, I was told that if that even happens this year and it probably won't, yes, it would just be a limited guardianship. So there would be somebody with her to still figure out certain things, like financial decisions, you know. She also has like, she's openly talked about dealing with substance abuse, right? So someone checking in on her when it comes to that. She'll be able to come and go like we've seen her do, you know, more recently. But there will be somebody there. But from, you know, the way.
that they're angling this is that she's going to be
100% free and I was told that that is not what it's
going to be. What it would be dope is
if, you know, when she was
coming up, Charlemagne lived in her basement.
Charlemagne kind of returns the favor
and allows her to live in his basement.
Yeah, he got a nice place. He probably has a real nice piece.
He got a nice house. You know,
no business. You know, we'll be finished in our basement.
You better. He better. I don't even have
a basement. I don't know, that's right. You have an attic?
Nope. He don't got no space for Wendy.
I'm talking about a gas firm yesterday.
I went a trailer.
You look like a little trailer.
No, you don't.
Lime.
Real and fake.
Matt Barnes decided to clear up again some rumors about him paying a AI model $61,000
because you're trying to extort them, allegedly.
Let's take a listen.
I've sat back dealing with personal, real, family, healing,
and making sure my kids are good
and just trying to get my life back in order
while I've sat back and watched the Internet
lie about it, the whole year,
live for me being gay
to me talking to showing
an abortion to me
telling some girl not to do a reality show
and then I get back from Dubai
and I get back and I see all of a sudden
I'm suing an AI model where I got
played by an AI model and all
these little bottom feeding blogs
pick it up. Shout out to the ones that are real
and know the bs from the bullshit or at least check
you guys believe that I got played by
AI model and I'm suing him. You see someone
like Gilbert and I had a conversation with
Gilbert. He addressed the bullshit
and it kind of was, from there it caught fire.
And I tell him, bro, like, after all we've been through, bro,
tap in with me and see if it's real.
And he said he apologized, he didn't know it was that deep,
but y'all can't believe everything you motherfucked in here.
So he didn't get guy by Yamato, he did.
It was just a girl from Instagram.
You were about to say something?
I'll explain to us.
I don't know what none of these stories are,
but it's just because Matt Barnes is hot.
You know what I'm saying?
To all the smoke podcast is hot.
Like, I was watching the fight this weekend.
Lamont Roach versus, uh, uh, uh,
Isaac Cruz and they had the
All the Smoke logo in the ring
They had salute to it. It is what it is
Cam and Mace. They had their logo in the ring too
but all the smoke is just a hot podcast
and when you're a hot podcast people are going to
use you for content. That's the way it is.
So Matt should take that as a compliment
that all of these rumors and all his gossip has been
about spreading about him all year.
I think the only issue is that it affects
his family unit because he was saying so
there was a real girl that him and his ex
that took a little break from each other. He was
DMing with her. He posted a video about
this back in November. He ended up paying
that girl because when
he got back with his ex who was pregnant at the
time, and he told her, she said
I'm going to release these sex messages. So he paid her
because he didn't want it to come out because it was a high-risk
pregnancy. And because of how hot things are with
him, now everybody picks up his stuff. So he
was trying to, you know, clean it up and it just
took its own life from there. But the girl is a real
girl. He's said that multiple times.
That's why he's like, just ask me the facts, y'all.
I'll tell you what's going on. Because he does address a lot of his own
stuff. Well, make sure you subscribe
to the All of Smoke Podcast on the Black Effect.
I Heart Radio Podcast Network.
Yes.
My guys, Matt Barnes, is Stephen Jackson.
With Lauren.
All right.
Now, when we come back, we got the mix.
So don't go anywhere.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Everybody is DJ NV.
Just hilarious.
Shalameen de Guy.
We are the Breakfast Club.
Now, this weekend,
you're doing something special for Baltimore.
Yes, I'm bringing Christmas to Baltimore.
So I have two shows at the Nevermore Hall,
downtown guys get you,
well, damn, I was ready to get your tickets,
but the event is sold out.
It's a community event given by the More Love Foundation.
That's my foundation.
we are doing a toy drive.
So it's toys for littles, man.
Everybody gets in if they bring a brand new toy for a kid,
so we're expecting anywhere from 1,200 to 1,500 toys
that we're going to be able to bless families with, man,
because everybody deserves Christmas.
So if you weren't able to reserve a ticket for this show,
and it's already at capacity, I'm sorry,
I will be in D.C. next weekend.
That's Thursday to Sunday, too, December 18th,
through the 21st, I'll be at the D.C. Improv.
So get your tickets, and those ain't free.
So, Jesselariousofficial.com
And I will be doing meet and greet because I know
D.C. got security at the D.C. Improv, y'all.
Love you guys. D.M.V. I'm coming.
Salute to Ryan Sourhan for joining us this morning
with Tricia Lee and Jeffrey St. Amman.
Salute to Ryan, Sirham. And make sure y'all check
our owning Manhattan season to now on Netflix.
That's right. And also, Swayvo Twain.
That is the son of Angie Stone and DeAngelo.
He has a new song, Dubso and talks about
everything that's going on with him.
So salute to him.
For stopping through.
Salute to Swaybo, Tewan, my 803 brother, man, Metro, Columbia all day.
That brother is holding his head in grief.
That's right.
So eloquently.
Yeah.
Salute to him.
Now, you got a positive note?
I do, man.
I want to remind people that there are 22 days left in the year.
22 days left in the year, okay?
And I want to remind you all of what this year was.
2025 is the year of the snake in the Chinese zodiac.
What does that mean?
Well, it calls on you the share.
anything that no longer supports your well-being,
including those snakes in the grass in your life, okay?
You were supposed to move with purpose this year, not pressure.
Okay, you should transform quietly yet powerfully.
You're supposed to act with intention this year and respond with precision,
and you're supposed to let your growth speak louder than revenge ever could.
So you got 22 days, all right?
You got 22 days to acknowledge that, you know, this is the year of the snake.
And I also want you all to know that this year of the snake met the universe,
year nine okay nine is the highest level of change so it's a perfect alignment for growth
all right release the baggage you've carried for too long move with intention and let your
evolution be the ultimate flex you got 22 days okay 22 days to acknowledge that and lean into
that power and we'll see you in 2006 not saying this our last day I'm just letting you know
that you know 2006 is right around the corner breakfast club bitches you're on finish or y'all done
Wake you up. Wake that ass up.
Program your alarm to Power 105.1 on AihartRadio.
I know he has a reputation, but it's going to catch up to him.
Gabe Ortiz is a cop.
His brother Larry, a mystery Gabe didn't want to solve until it was too late.
He was the head of this gang.
You're going to push that line for the cause?
Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it.
When Larry's killed, Gabe must untangle a dangerous past,
one that could destroy everything he thought he knew.
Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
And she said, Johnny, the kids didn't come home last night.
Along the Central Texas Plains, teens are dying, suicides that don't make sense, strange accidents, and brutal murders.
In what seems to be, a plot ripped straight out of Breaking Bad.
Drugs, alcohol, trafficking of people.
There are people out there that absolutely know what happened.
Listen to Paper Ghosts, the Texas Teen Murders on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I knew it was a bomb the second that it exploded.
I felt it ripped through me.
In season two of RipCurrent, we ask, who tried to kill Judy Berry and why?
They were climbing trees and they were sabotaging logging equipment in the woods.
She received death threats before the bomb.
You receive more threats after the bombing.
I think that this is a deliberate attempt to sabotage our movement.
Episodes of Rip Current Season 2 are available now.
Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Atlanta is a spirit.
It's not just a city.
It's where Crunk was born in a club in the West End.
A four world star.
It was 5.59.
Where preachers go viral.
And students at the HBCU turned heartbreak into resurrection.
where a dream was brought Hollywood to the South
and hustlers bring their visions to create black wealth.
Nobody's rushing into relationships with you.
I'm Big Rube.
Listen to Atlanta is on the I-Hard Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
I'm Robert Smith, and this is Jacob Goldstein,
and we used to host a show called Planet Money.
And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History
about the best ideas and people and businesses in history.
and some of the worst people, horrible ideas, and destructive companies in the history of business.
First episode, how Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline is.
The most Texas story ever.
Listen to business history on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is an IHeart podcast.
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