The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Michael Jackson Biopic Part 2 Talks To Begin Soon + Pastor Toure Roberts & Mouse Jones Interview

Episode Date: April 30, 2026

Today on The Breakfast Club, Pastor Touré Roberts talks his new book Knowing, learning to be still, self-love, and overcoming trauma. Plus, Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to Lt. Gov. Pamela Evette after being removed as a South Carolina state commencement speaker. Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Peace to the planet, it is Thursday. You're okay? How y'all feel out there? I feel blessed black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning. He forgot what they was. I didn't forget what day was.

It's okay. I'm 47 years old. Things happen sometimes. Salute to Jess Hilarius. I saw you on Tamara Hall yesterday. Yes. Yes. Promoting your new book.

Tell Deft Dewey Parent, which is available everywhere you buy. books now. How was she on Terminal? I thought she was great. Okay. That was the... First of all, she had the very mature hair. No, no, no, no. She had the very mature hair. Okay. And I think the mature hair did something to her.

Really? It was sounding very, very, very mature. And yo, not the hair. They made me sound very mature. Very polished, but still very just hilarious. Okay. You know? And I was nervous. I was like, why doesn't she do that here? Shut up, yo. So what hair is it today? Because the hair Is it back to... Jerome might be coming today.

So that's in case she got a fight. Oh, got you. I got you. Yo, but look, why my mother said the same thing? She was like, oh my God, you were amazing. You were just elegant. You were soft. You were polished.

She said the same thing. And then she was like, and then I watch breakfast club all the time. And you're not like that on that. That's right, Mama Robin. I don't know what that is either. Calm down. Please. I told it.

It's Charlemagne. Amen. Yes, it is. way this place is set up. No. No. No. Because Tamara and way more ratchet than us.

She is not. Yes, she is. Okay. But, no, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I thought you did fantastic on Tamron Hall yesterday. I really appreciate that. Well, her book is out right now. If you're out and about,

make sure you pick it up or you order it. Definitely, definitely get in. I see you're starting to get number one on all those Amazon list, which is amazing. Salute to everybody. Drop a bomb for Jess Salaris and everybody that went out and support it. Yesterday, when I looked out, you were number one comedian biography list.

the other one. Hold on. Don't get me to lie. Hold on, hold on. We go away. We can wait. We go away. Oh, yeah. Okay. Number one bestseller and comedian biographies and memoirs with the audiobook and top new release and parenting and family

humor with the hardcover. Thank you, Jess. Thank you to everybody. Thank you to everybody who's going out there to go get that. Absolutely. That's right. So yesterday my daughter's dance competition started. Nice. It's dumb for like two and a half hours, but I drove back. Okay. I drove back. I was like

I'm not spending a night there. But they had a roof Chris nearby, and I ate that sweet potato sauce suflare. Oh, my goodness. Man, now you're talking about some living, hear me? Talk that tone. I forgot about how it tasted. I'm going to have to take a note out of Callan's mouth. And when that thing touched my mouth, my tongue, oh, my gosh.

That sweet potato soup flay from Ruth Chris is something that you think about. I've been out of town in places like Atlantic City and went there just to get the side. Like you get some, you get an Andre from somewhere else and go to Ruth Chris to get to side. That's what? That's a fat back living. But you, oh, my God. That was... With that little crumble on the top?

What? Freshly done? What? Now y'all talking about life. Now y'all talking about life. I felt so bad after, but in the moment, I just, it was this. And I couldn't stop. It's just kept, you just kept doing it in the heart.

Don't feel bad. It's sweet potatoes. That's the way I rationalize it in my mind. That is a sweet potato. It is so good. That is a super food. Oh, my goodness. All right.

Well, let's get the show cracking. And I am glad that our guests that we have today is none other than Pastor Toray Roberts. That's right. Yeah. You know, sometimes I like to be still and meditate and really feel God and get these downloads from God. And as I was driving in this morning, I got one of those downloads. And I was like, man, this is a fantastic day to have Toray Roberts on with his new book, knowing the journey to certainty in an uncertain world, okay?

Because I really, really felt God in a real way this morning. All right. Absolutely. He'll be joining us this morning. We got a lot to discuss, of course. Mimi's up next year's front page news. What we're starting to show with? Man, we're starting to show with Candy Rain by Soul for Real

because I was singing this at the top of my lungs. Discordid. My. Do you aim? My candy rain. Breakfast club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV.

Just hilarious. Sholomey and the guy, we are the breakfast club. It's about the feeling. Okay? It's about the intention. It's about the energy. I don't have to carry a note. I can't feel it when your mouth's open, bro.

I don't like this. No, this is the day I go to human resource. This is the day that I go to HR. I can't take that now. I wouldn't be trying to defend you, Envy. I can't take that now. That was nasty. That was disgusting.

I feel violent. Stop singing it. That was gross. I feel so violent. News. Sto with sports. Cavaliers beat the Raptors, 125, 120.

The Lakers had a lead of 3-0 in the series. Now the lead is 3-2. They lost to the Rockers, 99-93. And the Pistons beat the Magic 116-109. What's up? Good morning, NB, Jeth Shalemaine. How y'all doing this morning? Hey, girl, hey. Good morning. So we start this morning with a major decision from the Supreme Court and what it could mean for your vote. So in a new ruling in the court, from a new ruling, the court has made it harder to challenge voting maps that may disadvantage black and minority communities.

So for decades, the Voting Rights Act of 1965, it's specifically Section 2. It allowed people to sue if states drew political maps that weakened. the voting power of black voters. Now, that's how majority of black districts were created to make sure that their communities had a fair shot at representation. But now the court is narrowing that protection, saying those kinds of districts can be unconstitutional in some cases. So what does that mean going forward?

Well, it opens the doors for states to redraw maps and potentially eliminate or weaken districts that have historically helped black members get elected to Congress. Experts say, as many as 15 congressional districts. could now be at risk, mostly across the South. Now, immediately after this ruling, I spoke with Derek Johnson, president of the NACP for his reaction. Let's listen. And what was your reaction when you first heard the news? You know, I was disappointed, but not shocked.

We have began to see this trend in this current political environment. This is a stack Supreme Court. Every citizen should have equal protection under the law. and the ability to cast an effective ballot. What this Supreme Court has just done is weaken our ability as African Americans to fully engage. If you think about the African-American population,

over 52% of all African-Americans live in the southern states, the former Confederate states, this would drastically reduce African-Americans' opportunities to elect care as a good choice. But for us, we also need to take action. We need to overwhelm the ballot box in November so we can ensure that we put people back in office that represent our need and interest. And we can protect and reverse some of the trends that people are predicted. So basically, Mimi, there is no legal protection against systemic racism in regards to voting.

No. Not anymore. Did you see what Barack Obama said yesterday by any chance? No. Well, he said exactly what with the brother president, during the president. Johnson said, buddy, you know, he says the good news about all of this is that such setbacks we can overcome. But that will only happen if citizens across the country who cherish our democratic ideals

continue to mobilize and vote in record numbers. We have to vote, not just in the upcoming midterms or in the high profile races, but in every election and every level. But how many times have we heard that? Exactly. He's not wrong. But, yes, I really hate how the solution to voter suppression is always larger voter turnout. How come when they're in power, they don't do something to protect the vote?

Like, why is the solution to voter suppression, which we know is always going to happen. Always just, we got to go out there and vote in record numbers. Like, it got to be something. But that happens all the time. Don't we go out there and vote in record numbers? Absolutely. You want more numbers and more numbers, but I feel like we do it. There's just got to be a better political solution than this always larger voter turnout. Like, they can't continue to do things like this. The Supreme Court can't continue to do things like just did and that's our only solution always is large voter turnout how can we be protected politically from this yeah that is a great question and I did ask him that and they said that

they are working on you know just voter education and just basically what you said getting out to vote but going forward voters challenging a redistricting map will now have to prove that the discrimination was intentional and so that's really going to be hard to do voter rights group say that bar is nearly impossible to clear. So, you know, we'll have to just continue to watch this, but as of right now, you're absolutely right. That protection is gone for, uh, for, you know, the Voting Rights Act, especially specifically that, that section two. Um, and so we also have President Trump's reaction following that major Supreme Court ruling. At the time of the ruling, the president said he had not been briefed on that decision and asking reporters at the

White House for the details. This is his reaction. I want to go back to the Supreme Court ruling on that voting rights act. I know you said we haven't seen it. When did it come up just now? No, it came out this morning, but basically very much narrows the Voting Rights Act. Was you considered a win for a win for Republicans. I love it. But my question. This is a very good. We can end this

news conference right now. I want to read it. My question. Wow. He got past the note too and the note said, basically we made it harder for niggas to vote. I love it. I love it. I can't care about nothing else. Yeah. So that was his reaction, but, you know, of course, you know, for the people that this will impact a very, very, very different reaction this morning. And so we'll talk more about this. But coming up at seven, students at an HBCU, they are speaking out over a speaker that they say does not reflect their values. And the school is now responding. We'll talk about that. Let's go South Carolina State University, big SC State. Drop one of the clues bombs for SC State. Damn it. Go Bulldogs, you already know. All right.

Thank you, Mimi. Don't get so quiet when at C. State getting mentioned. Thank you, Mimi. Okay. Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 1-800-5-105-1.

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You can doubt. And I'm also made at Blue Shield because they won't pay for my Zipan. At who? Because of the weight loss medication. Blue Shield. You say you're fat and you're on weight loss medication. No, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry.

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What's up? Get it off your chest. Good morning. This name. This name's calling from Toledo, Ohio, man. What's up? What's time? I wanted to get this off my chest.

Go ahead, brother. Oh, man. You go well, man. What I find was so funny, man. Remember when y'all had Candace. Candice Owens up there. Yes, sir. years ago.

That's hilarious. Oh, my God. Remember when you was telling her, God is good all the time and all the time. God is good. Yep. But she seemed so clueless when she said, you know, when y'all was saying it. Yes. She didn't even finish it.

When you said it to her, you said, what is God is good? I said, God is good. And she said, amen. He was like, no. Right. What the heck is going on? Exactly. Exactly.

Started getting into it. Like, God is good all the time, and all the time, God is good. Yep. And she said, and so, like, in all, like, how do you all have,

how are you all in so much sync? Right. Yes, she was. And remember, she was like, well, why do you have to say it again? So, clear. You know what?

We would have never got a moment like that without a character like you on that show, Jess. Thank you so much. You know on that show. Envy. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Guine. Walwan. You already know the deal. Yo, Salaman. Yes, sir. How about the Cowboys?

You know this out here, right? Yes. Sir. Yes, sir. Sir? Don't hang up on him. I'm hanging up on it. Don't hang up on him.

I'm hanging up on that guy. You can't just be lying up here. It's not the Cowboys here. He can't be lying even. He's saying Envy Waguan and you Waguan in match. So what? It's never the Cowboys here. You don't know what God got planned for the Cowboys.

Not winning. You have no idea what's going to happen with us this year. Not winning. Not winning. Oh, God. Hello, who's this? Oh, this is Drake. Dre.

Great, why are you coming in? Great. Jesus. Oh, man, I've been calling for over a decade. I'm in Duval now. I'm originally from Chicago, but I was calling because I wanted to commend my wife, first and foremost, for graduating.

She graduates tomorrow at Health Administration. Congratulations, baby girl. Was she about to be a nurse? Oh, no, no, no. She's trying to run her own business. She's been on top of it, trying to handle everything. And I want to really commit her because she's been grinding almost every day to make this happen. Absolutely.

I also want to, if possible, say happy birthday to my nephew. His birthday was on Monday. Xavier, happy birthday, bro. Happy birthday to my daughter. Her birthday was on Sunday. Hey. Happy birthday. I love you.

And happy birthday to my wife, because I probably won't be able to get through. for another decade. First of all, that's not what you've been wanting to say for the last 10 years. So for the last 10 years, what else has influenced you to call? Right, so much. Oh, man. Like, first and foremost, I need to commend y'all. I've watched

the both that you all have had over the last decade, and it's so, so motivated. So thank you all for constantly changing the way that we look at things. Um, second, obviously, as you know, Trump, he's a

enjoying this world, I feel like we don't really have too much that we can look for when it comes to him. So I was curious, is it possible that you all could offer some sort of mentorship that we can utilize to make things better in our area? I mean, we try to do that in different ways, right? Like I always say that whenever we can create, you know, little pockets of joy for people, for people to come together and congregate and, you know, laugh, learn, be inspired. We all do that in various ways. Like, you know, I just had the Black APEC podcast festival this weekend. NB does it with his car shows, you know, whether it's, you know, giving scholarships to different schools. You know, I got a scholarship fund set up at South Carolina State University, the Mental Welfth Expo, which is a free event I do every October.

So we try in different ways, you know what I mean, to create little pockets of joy for us to, you know, learn and be inspired from. Definitely do. I appreciate it. Thank you all for letting me get through. Thank you for everything you do. congratulations, Jeff, on your book. Thank you. And again, if I could get through again next week, I'll call again next week, but thank you all for your time.

Thank you, Chief. We appreciate you, my brother. That's what I like, man. That's what I like, man. That's what the type of conversations I like to have. Them type of calls I like to have, okay? We are nothing without the people who support us and have been supporting us for all these years. Absolutely.

Get it off your chest. 800-585-105-10. We got the latest with Lauren coming up. Yeah, we do. Your head look big as hell in the Zoom this morning. Oh, well, I can't even see you. sitting on your seat? Wow. Yeah, I'm sitting right now. Wow. Are you standing up? No, I'm sitting down. Wow. All right. We do have the latest happening this morning. So the Michael Jackson movie. Y'all know

we've been talking a lot about it is still number one in the box office, but the sequel, the conversations are actually starting to happen for round two. And the execs are talking about what is actually going to be in the movie after a lot of the backlash. You know, I'm glad we're about to have this conversation. Well, I guess we'll happen when we come. Yeah, we'll do what we come back. Yeah, let's save for when we come back. Because it's a good conversation. The answers a lot of the you've had Charlotte made about how they address certain things. Yeah, but the movie skipped over a lot because I haven't seen the movie yet, but you said it ended in 88, right?

88, yes. He bought that publishing in 85. That should have been in that goddamn movie, but we'll talk about it. We'll get into it. Okay, we'll get to that. It's the breakfast club of morning. Canadian women are looking for more. More to themselves, their businesses, their elected leaders, and the world are at them.

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And go I want to be like you Take me through that, take me through that. The latest with Lauren Olson. On the breakfast club. L.L. Coole, Coole, talk to me. All right, guys. So before we get into the Michael Jackson conversation, really quick, I wanted to make sure that we sent some love over to Ving Rames and his family. So the actor, producer, who starred in Baby Boy, Mission Impossible.

Yesterday was reported that he suffered a medical scare. He was out to dinner in L.A. with his family, he was at a restaurant, and people that were in the restaurant were reported to TMZ that at some point he had like collapsed and collapsed into the table where they were having dinner. And he was in and out of consciousness, paramedics rushed over to the restaurant, took him to the hospital. And they said the call came in for as a, you know, for a male, 60 pounds that was that needed to be transported. 60 years old you mean. I'm sorry.

In his 60s, yes. Yeah, big Ramies is way more than. Sorry. Yes, yes, right? He was on that bound. Yes. Yes. in his 60s that needed to be transported to the hospital ASAP.

Now, his rep in the beginning was just saying that they believed that he was just like overheated, but will be fine. So he was taken to the hospital and observed. But then his rep gave an update to some outlets saying that he was released from the hospital. He was heading home and that he feels fine now. And he was actually like joking around and telling jokes as he was leaving the hospital. That's good. Yeah. That is good to hear.

Yeah. So sending him some love. Now, as we shift gears a bit, we've been talking a lot about the Michael Jackson movie. So yesterday, I was listening to this podcast. It's called, there's a podcast that a guy named Adam Focleson does. He's a movie critic. And the way that Adam Focusing does his conversations, a lot of times he gets like, you know, I get like exclusive stories.

He gets advanced scripts for movies. Sometimes it's plays that will only stay a play, but sometimes they go into movies. So he received the Michael Jackson original script before they did all those reshoot. So he's interviewing the chairman of Lionsgate Motion Picture Group. And he's interviewing this guy, right? And talking from the original scripts. Now, the conversation that they're having, for those who don't know, Lionsgate funded and produced the Michael Jackson movie along with Graham King and the Michael Jackson estate,

which are his attorneys. They're talking about what was taken out and kind of some of the things that went down. So first, you know, Lionsgate, they confirmed that they're about to go into talks. Let's take a listen. I'm sure those were not easy meetings because the estate fucked up. they caused this problem. And you got to work together to get to the solution. Yeah, look, I have not had to or chosen to dive in to dissect when that agreement came about,

who was there, who wasn't. And it's not for me to determine that. I did hear Branca was not allowed on set. I can't confirm. You can't comment on that. Okay. What I can say to you is if I were the director, if I was told that a significant portion of the work I had done might or couldn't be included in the film, I thought.

I had made. It would take me a beat. Especially a Michael Jackson movie, a movie you know is going to be scrutinized and criticized and become a lightning rod. It would take me a beat. So I think it's fair to say that Antoine needed a beat to wrap his mind around, okay, how do we move forward from here? So that was not the audio we were supposed to go to, but that audio right there,

they're talking about the fact that, and I didn't know this, I know that Antoine had talked about a lot of the reshoots that were happening, which is what made the movie budget go up because they were remove things, so they had to go back and redo everything. But there in this conversation are talking about that Antoine Foucaulte was, there were reports that he was mad to the point where he was going to quit. He did not want to

do, he did not want to direct this film anymore because he had fully shot the movie and then the estate came and said, oh, we messed up legally, we got to take out some things and he'd already turned into the director's cut. So they talk about how Michael Jackson's lead attorney, who I told you guys is also featured in the movie, was not allowed on set for a bit because Antoine

Foucai was, he was upset about the things that he had to go back and redo. I don't understand. I mean, listen, I'm not a film director, but I don't understand why it's so hard to, you know, do this movie. Like you do the movie by simply telling the truth. Yeah. It's like everybody wants to focus on what people feel as opposed to what actually happened. What actually happened was Michael Jackson got investigated for 17 years and the FBI found nothing. What actually happened was Michael Jackson was found not guilty in a court of law.

Yeah. But what actually happened was you had people who are accusing him now who back in the day said Michael Jackson never did anything to them. So what's the problem? truth. Well, the thing is, is when the state is involved, right? The state wants that filmed a certain way. They wanted to look a certain way, right? And they probably didn't see that. They probably didn't like what they seen after the director's cut. That's like somebody coming up here doing an interview. They do an interview. Okay. Envy. It wasn't the estate. So it's not that they didn't like what they saw. And we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about the allegations being addressed. And it'll kind of clear some things up. I'll let them tell you what happened. Before we get there, I want to go to play audio number two, where they talk about the allegations being addressed. And it'll kind of clear some things up. but it was not the estate wanting to keep everything like, you know, peaches and cream. Let's take a listen to audio number two. I don't want to get ahead of the filmmakers in what a second movie could be. There is a massive amount of music and life experiences separate and apart from allegations

that would fill more than a second movie on its own. Some of the things that were in the script that you read and reported on obviously cannot be included. But continuing to get a deeper understanding of who Michael was, I think there are any number of ways the filmmakers will be able to pull that off. And over the next couple of weeks, when we all sit down and talk about their full and complete vision for what this movie will be, I'll be in a better position to answer the question. Show me the business of Michael Jackson. Show me how Michael Jackson purchased the Beatles publishing for $47.5 million. And then he merged with Sony and owned half of Damned there, the whole music industry's publishing and how he was giving a lot of black artists their publishing back.

Show us that. But who wanted this stuff taken out then? in the estate that one of that stuff, who wanted that stuff taken out then? So we've talked a little bit about this. So what happened was they were going to address the first allegation that happened against Michael Jackson. That was the Jordan Chandler. But when Michael Jackson's estate settled with Jordan Chandler, and again, they didn't settle because in a mission of guilt.

And they made that very clear. There was something in the paperwork that said that that situation could never be dramatized. There was legal, there was legal restrictions. Yes. And they couldn't dramatize it. Yes. They couldn't do a dramatize depiction of those events in any.

But the estate didn't catch that until Anton Fugawa had shot the first cut of the movie. So they addressed it, and then they had to go back and take out a lot of different things. Let's take a listen to audio number three really quick, and I think this will clear this conversation. The screenplay for the movie that was originally going to be made did deal with it. Not because of anything that the estate of the filmmakers were wanted to do, but the revelation of the agreement that prevented it from being dramatized is what prevented it. So it is not that the estate and the filmmakers were unwilling to go there. And I think that they that needs to be a part of any conversation about what the filmmakers or what the estate were willing to do.

There's been a lot of commentary on this is an estate sanctioned biopic. Musical biopics by definition. Or you don't get the music or you don't get the music. Yeah. So then they also talk a bit about the fact that like they're going to address, you know, the allegations and that critics might not even be happy with the way that they address it because they're going to tell the truth. feelings we're going to deal with the facts yeah they should tell the truth but their state also should have known what they could have been put in that movie

and not right that lawyer's been working with them long enough to know he probably did some of those details and that they should have known that there's no way that that should have been shot I don't think that was a Michael Jackson detail that was a detail from Jordan Chandler's side but still the estate would have known that you all figured out the settlement

they signed the settlement that was a long long long long long time ago they said that it was still a long time ago Antoine Fuqua said he has at least one third of the sequel already done. He told deadline that a few days ago. So I can't wait to see it. Yeah. Now it's not greenlit or anything. Michael Jackson, too, isn't greenlit yet. But the fact that

Lionsgate is like, yo, we're going to go have these conversations. That is coming. Show me how Michael Jackson tried to buy Marvel back in the day because he wanted to play Spider-Man. Show me stuff like that. Show me the business side of Michael Jackson. Michael was out here cooking,

cooking. Had no idea. The only reason I hate these conversations that they act like the Michael movie was whack or trash. show me this or put this in it. The movie was amazing. Regardless of what was in the movie, that first part of the movie was amazing. And I know you didn't say it yet, but that movie was an amazing, dope movie. But you know why all of these conversations are happening?

These conversations are happening because they continue to lose to Michael Jackson. Even when they tried their best to try to, you know, slander him and put the propaganda on him, he keeps losing. Like literally, last week it was some accusations that came out the weekend of the movie. You think that was coincidence? Absolutely not. And look at all of the records that it broke. So now they're forced to have a conversation that they don't want to have. Movie was still a dope, amazing movie and showed his life.

It was my kids had a great time. We're going to go see the movie again this weekend. Nah, that movie was still good. I know people like, this should have been in there or this could have been? No, the movie was dope. I'm going. I can't. F everybody's feeling.

That movie was great. Yeah. And they're projecting it is going to hit a billion dollar, the billion dollar global mark soon. And they talked about there were some studios that didn't want to take the film because of some of the things you just. talked about Charlemagne and Lionsgate was like I know they saw it now. F them. Movie was amazing. I can't wait to part two comes out.

Me either. My daughter's still out there trying to still doing a moonwalk. Yeah, doing the moonwalk into the backflip. She's creating her own moonwalk. I'm telling you, Michael Jackson wants us in the box office because last week it was Michael Jackson movie and this week One Spoon of Chocolate comes out tomorrow and Paris Jackson is in that. And she kills

it to him. And I'm telling you one spoon of chocolate, that's an instant classic for me. That's one of my favorite movies of all time. already. I don't watch it twice. Well, the Rizza's coming up here tomorrow. We'll talk to the Rizzen. I didn't even know that was Paris Jackson. Sholomey was like, that's Parish Jackson. I'm like, oh, that is. Because you just see her as an actress and she gets busy with it.

Well, I didn't know you to tell somebody told me. Oh. Oh, did y'all know yesterday was Duke Ellison birthday? He would have been 127. He's from BC. He would not have been a hundred and twenty-five. No, he wouldn't have. You know, people live long, well, not no more. No, because the food and everything. He wouldn't have made it to $120s. Oh, that wouldn't have happened. Okay.

He would have been the birthday. Period. it, right? 127. That wouldn't have happened. All right. All right. Well, that's the latest with Lauren. Anybody else's birthday?

You want to hear? No. No. I just think that was very... 204 years old today. Shut up. All right. When we come back, we got front page news.

Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Salameen de Guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

Let's get back in some front page news. Start up for some quick sports last night. The Cavs beat the Raptors, 125, 120. The Pistons beat the Magic 116-109. and the Lakers lost to the Rockets, the Rockets beat them 99-93. What's up, Mimi? Good morning, NBJJLamein.

How y'all doing? Bees, Mimi Brown. Good. So we start this hour with a story out of South Carolina State University where student voices are making an impact. So the school is now changing its 2026 commencement speaker after days of student protests on campus. So originally the university had invited South Carolina's lieutenant governor,

Pamela Yvette, citing her background. as a successful business leader. But students, they push back, raising concerns about her political positions and saying that they were not properly informed about this decision. Let's listen to one of those student voices. As students of the HBCU, we stand on legacy rooted in advocacy, equity, and empowerment. Diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives are not abstract ideas on our campus. They are essential frameworks that have provided access, opportunity, and support. for countless students. The suggestion for dismantling or threatening these programs directly

undermines various systems that have allowed us to succeed. Man, drop on the clues, bonds to South Carolina State University. Commencements should be about the students. They are about the students. So, you know, the students should decide who is the commencement speaker. I totally agree with you. And if they don't want that person to be the commencement speaker for whatever reason, especially if the reasons are political, I think they have that right. I don't think I've ever seen a commencement where the students were able to pick. It's usually, you know, faculty and the president of the university, and the students usually just got to take it. But I think the fact that students, I mean, you pay, you do your time, you do four or five years in college.

You pay for four or five years in college. You should be able collectively as a student body, be able to pick who's going to be at your commission. Because that's your day. You want to be, you want to listen to somebody that's going to inspire you, right? somebody that you can actually look to and see yourself in. You don't want to see somebody that is opposition up there talking to you. Yeah, and I think that's what they were saying, especially in this political climate, because Yvette, she responded saying the situation shows, quote,

why we can't give up the fight to NDEI on campuses and pointing to what she called safety concerns, but she also criticized the professors accusing them of fueling the outrage and called an end to tenure. and she referred to the protests as woke mobs, you know, further infuriating the students in the university. They said that they made the change out of concern for the students, out of safety, and they wanted to keep, as you guys were saying, the focus on graduation. Let's listen to the president of South Carolina State right now. We can't pull back what's out on social media. We can't pull back what people think.

But I certainly don't want people to think that the students here at South Carolina State University, future educators, doctors, lawyers, attorneys, sciences, business owners, are thugs. And I certainly would never intentionally place our students, our faculty, our staff, our visitors in harm's way. And with that being said, because of that, because of the unknown, I've made the decision to rescind the invitation to the Lieutenant Governor to speak at your commencement. commencement. I didn't like some of the things

that the lieutenant governor was alluding to. I didn't like some of the things that the SC state president said, like calling them a woke mob, alluding that she wouldn't be safe, saying things like, you know, he don't want nobody to think those young men and women are thugs.

Listen, the young men and women of South Carolina State University were peacefully protesting. Anyone who thinks those kids are thugs, it says more about them than the students. Like, protesting is not an act of terrorism. It's a constitutional right.

So I saw a bunch of young American exercising their constitutional right to protest on South Carolina State University campus. That's what I saw. I ain't seen no thugs. It made a huge difference. So kudos to them. And if they're looking for a commencement speaker,

Nakira Marie, she's a young lady that I saw speaking. She's the one who went viral that I saw speaking yesterday. She goes to SD State. They need to go ahead and make her a commencement speaker because she was fantastic in the video I saw yesterday. Love that. And we are hearing this morning from Erica Kirk. She is speaking out about after going viral online and becoming the criticism, the target of criticism and comedy.

Now, she is the widow of Charlie Kirk. And during this viral moment that is going viral right now, she called out comedian Drewski over a video where he appears to mock her. And she also says, though, it's part of a larger issue pointing to what she calls a growing culture of dehumanization in the country. Let's listen. I have comedians dressing up in whiteface. I have people saying I'm not fit to be CEO. And I have Candice Owens claiming I murdered my husband. And the list goes on and on.

How would you feel if even just one person made cruel jokes about the attempted murder of your loved one? That is what Jimmy Kimmel did to the first lady. He said that she had the glow. of an expected widow, just 48 hours before that nightmare almost became a reality. So Jimmy Kimball has come out and said that that is not what he meant. He was, and this happened before, you know, that happened. He said he was, you know, referring to President Trump's age, you know, making jokes. As President Trump did recently about his own age, so just kind of some context there.

But Kirk says she's also been dealing with, you know, that ongoing criticism and false claims in the months since. her husband's death. It's just very hard for me to take any of those people serious if they never call President Donald Trump out for the stuff that, for the crude rhetoric, the violent rhetoric that he spews. It's just very hard for me to take any of them serious

when they don't ever call out the president for the things that he does and says. Like, I just can't take it serious. Now, I do agree with her when she says, you know, like saying that she was responsible for her husband's death, that's crazy. You know, like, but everything else? no. And in regards to Drewski,

I would say to her, that's what you think you look like? Because he ain't never say your name. I didn't say your name. If that's how you think you look. If that's how you think you look, you need to get on some of that, what was that drug? Y'all just used? Zetbound. I ain't never used that. You're just talking about it. Zetbound. You need to get on some Zepound and some OZimpic, you know,

if that's how you think you look. Because he never said your name, man. Baby. Right. I guess she did just confirm that, you know, she thinks he was talking about her in that, But a hit Doug going holler In my best bottom-o voice A hit done going holler

All right y'all, well that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown TV. And for more stories follow the Black Information Network. Thank you, Mimi. Thank you, girl. Bees me, me. Now when we come back, Pastor Toray Roberts will be joining us. He has a new book

Knowing the Journey to Certainty in an Uncertain World. We're going to talk to him next. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. We are the Breakfast Club. Longerosa is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. Our guy. His new book, Knowing, is available right now.

Ladies and gentlemen, Torre Roberts. Welcome back. After Torre Roberts. Welcome. Good morning. How are you feeling this morning? Good morning. How are you feeling this morning?

I feel good. Good to be here. I'm thankful. They're grateful. I got to ask how's the queen? She's doing good. She's got a chill for six weeks just to get stable, and then the recovery can begin.

So you know Sarah. She likes to go. But I've got a whole team around us saying, you can't go. Go slow. We need you. And so she's doing. good and she sends her love and greetings.

I saw her post yesterday that she would love to be with you because y'all do all the big moments together but she can't be with you and just congratulating you on the book as well. Yeah, yeah, it's hard because that's not just my bride, that's my partner. Like we do everything together. So for her not to be here, it's rough, but she's almost threatened me not to, like you better not not go.

You know, you got a great message. You got an assignment. I'll be okay. And so we negotiated. I said, look, as long as there are people around a clock at the house 24-7, I'll go. Well, let's talk about it, right? Knowing the journey to certainty in an uncertain world. Your book is about to come out, and something like that happens. That's like the epitome of uncertainty. What do you think God was wanting you to know in that moment?

Man, I love that question. The book starts off with basically me being in a challenging spot when I sat down to write it. So you can imagine that I'm writing a book. That's about confidence and knowing and so many other things. And then I get slammed. So I feel like it took me to a deeper level of knowing, to be honest with you, because sometimes you have to frame your circumstances. So as it relates to what happened with Sarah, for those who don't know,

she was in an accident and she fractured her neck in several places. And I'll be honest with you, I was devastated. But I had to reframe it. I could look at it as, hey, this horrible thing happened to my wife. How could that happen? or I could reframe what I know about it and say this wasn't a doomsday. This was the day that God delivered her. So it taught me how sometimes knowing is not about what happened,

but learning to reframe your circumstances so that you can move forward with gratitude instead of being depressed. You know, we hear that scripture all the time, right? Psalm 4610. You know, be still and know that I am God. Like you start to book called Be Still and Know, right? When you're still, what are you trying to know? You know what I mean?

When you're in that moment, What are you trying to know? I think you're trying to perceive truth. So we live in an attention economy, as you know. So every day that you get up in the morning, you got 10,000 companies vying for your decision, literally vying for your next step. And so waking up is warfare, to be honest with you,

because everybody's trying to try to get you to move. And so what Steelers will do, and for me, and I'm just, I'm going to throw this out here, leave that phone alone for the first 10, 15 minutes of the day, right? Because that warfare is coming through that, phone and you say I need to see what time it is get a clock what happened to the old school digital clock but what you're trying to tap into is truth because I don't even know what's true

I got so much manipulation coming at me from marketers big tech everybody so I need to get still you know tap into what I know like for me I love Psalm 23 and 1 and it says the Lord is my shepherd I have no lack or I shall not want I have no lack that's stillness right because now I'm not in this race to get or this sense of I'm about to miss out on something and I can get still and really sense what God might be trying to bring into my spirit the clarity that I need if you slow down you can speed up with accuracy what about um like when you're got into that place of certainty right and then you're doing new things or something major happens like you know what happened a pastor sarah or even something positive happens and now things are speeding up again and you don't

have the time to really sit and be still how do you be still while not having the time to really do it. The truth of the matter is there are going to be seasons that go really, really, really fast. And you've got to know that, especially in our world. You know, stuff moves fast. And you have to move fast. Some doors are only open for a short window of time. Right.

That means that when you have a chance to be still, you got to take it. Because there's nothing wrong with going fast. Fast is actually a good thing. Velocity, you need that velocity. But you just have to make certain that you have enough equity of stillness so that you have clarity. ain't nothing wrong with running as long as you're running accurately. You know, a lot of people think they know themselves and still move wrong. How do you know when you really know and when you're just lying to yourself?

Ooh, that's wonderful. Self-awareness is everything. In the book, I talk about misknowing and how sometimes we do feel like we're knowing something, but what is shaping your knowing? Like, for example, in a chapter called misknowing, I talk about trauma, secret symptom, and the best way to illustrate this is to tell you a story. So we were going out of the country and my 16-year-old daughter, she was 14 at the time,

told me that she told her friends at school that I was, that we were going out of the country. I'm like, Kinsey, don't be telling them that. They might know that we're going and break into our house and rob us. Now, wait a minute, it is real, but we're talking about little Becky. Little Becky. Little Becky.

Little Becky might have a brother. Yeah, but it comes from, you're how you, what you grew up around. Yeah, but it's ridiculous, though. And Sarah had to pull my car. She was like, so, so baby, hold on, let's let's do the math here. You're saying that Lil Becky is going to

get past the guards. She's going to scale the fence, get past the security cameras, and rob us blind. And I had to laugh, but it was real to me. That's the watch in you, man. That's to watch. You're from watch, brother. But, but look, but it's true, but I don't live there no more.

Yeah. I'm very far away. So, so, so, I'm I'm calling it wisdom, but it's not really wisdom, it's worry. And now I'm putting that worry on my kids. They don't know nothing about no getting robbed and home evasion. So I'm imparting, I'm imparting an experience that I worked hard to make sure that they didn't have. But that's that misknowing. So what you have to do is, look, I believe in therapy. You know, I believe in, like, therapy, know what's going on, know why you think what you think.

There's a concept called metacognition. and it basically means thinking about your thinking, not just thinking, but thinking processing. How did I get to this thought? They said that's one of the highest forms of intelligence of being able to think about your own thinking. Yes, absolutely. But is that really worrying or is that wisdom, right?

Because we're dads. But you also want to teach. We know things that our wives and kids don't know. Right, you want to teach because you're not always going to be here. So you want your daughter to, of course, be free, of course, feel away. But you also wanted to keep that eye open that. She might not know because, you were from a different place where she grew up.

I grew up in Queens, but I grew up in Queens. I never had a home invasion. I grew up in Jersey. I've had two. You see what I'm saying? And I've got security to dogs. It's just that equal moment. So you have to teach them to move differently.

You know what I mean? So I don't know if worrying is a little bit of worry and wisdom, no. It is. But well, my daughter who has never been to Watts, who has never been, I'm talking like Ella now, who's never been to anything other than safety, wakes up saying, Dad, I'm scared. Something's wrong.

Because there is a, you're right, there's a fine line between wisdom and fear, but fear is debilitating. Baby girl, you're 10 years old. You ain't got nothing to be afraid of. Go live, like dream does an innocent stuff you want to protect. So now, don't get me wrong.

I have the sit downs with my boys about getting pulled over and all that kind of stuff, but I have to make sure that I am not sowing into them the pain of my experience at the expense of their innocence. That's the hardest part, right?

Especially as a father because you don't want to pass that trauma into them, right? But it's like you still want them to be aware too. And knowing. But not traumatized. Yeah. I get what you saying. And that's hard. So we've learned to handle it.

So, you know, we've experienced all that. So we know how to navigate it. But a child, they'll know how to navigate that. Like I'm putting ideas in their mind, scary ideas in their mind, that they have no context for with the experience. exception to me telling them that. So I would rather than be free, I don't want them to be stupid. I don't want them to be unwise, but I have to really manage how I present something to him. What was your daughter's response when you told her that though? Like, no, you know, she

looked at me like, she looked at me like I was crazy. Okay. She's like, really? Like, Becky is really gonna? Becky's a burglar? Right. That's not what she said she wanted to be in class. So then in turn, did you explain like where you were coming from or like, I'm tripping? You know what I mean? Like, what happened in that moment? I probably need to have a follow-up conversation. I was so embarrassed because Sarah pulled my car. She's like, Terran, like, come on, dog. Enough is, look, I realize you want to, you don't want to sit with you back to the door. That's great.

I get that. But come on, dog. Becky. I get it. Becky got a big brother. Got smoked wheels. They're hanging with the homie. That looking for a come up.

They're just like, yo, you know what the robbers just went out on vacation. You know what I mean? Becky, where they live again? Where do they keep that key, Becky? Hey. Pastor Tore is knowing yourself a destination or a daily practice. Ooh, it's a daily practice because, you know, you're unfolding. And then, you know, it's like, and then the more you grow, now you've got to relearn yourself again.

You know who you are at 20, 30, 40, you got to keep learning. And there's just a lot. We're complicated. We're complex. There's stuff that we, there's trauma that we know about. There's trauma that we don't. Like when I got shot when I was 16 years old, my body healed in months. but my trauma, I'm still being delivered from the trauma.

And this is decades later. You know, my son, one of my sons, Isaiah, he, you know, he wants to, he told me, God's calling him to move to L.A. And I'll be honest with you, man, my eyes got big. And I'm like, I got afraid, you know, because, you know, I feel like, and first of all, L.A. is amazing. You know, I still have a place there and I'm there, you know, once a month or whatever. But.

Yeah, the church there too, right? Yeah, got the church there. But I, but I also had a lot of pain there. And I feel like in the recesses of my mind, I escaped all of that. Right. I moved from watching. I kept going, kept going, kept going. I'm all in Calabasas now.

So for him as a young man who I'm trying to protect, for him to say, dad, I feel called to go back to L.A. And I love L.A., but it doesn't feel as abundant as you used to. I'll be honest. It's a little different. But that was trauma. I'll be honest. I woke up in the middle of night. I woke Sarah up and like, babe, man, he wants to move back to L.A.

You know, you stay here with me in Dallas. I can cover you. I can protect you. We got a lot of relationships and I have relationships there. But what I'm getting at is that it takes time. You don't even realize that the trauma is there until there's something that confronts that trauma. You know, and I had to apologize to him. I told him, hey, if God's calling you to go, he's got you. I said, but I know you saw a little bit of worry in dad's face.

This is why. And you know what he told me? He said, yeah, dad, I get it. He said, but the same God that took care of you. The same God that protected you, provided for you, blessed you, you know, it's going to take care of me. and I had to give it up. And when I hear you say that, because I used to go to your church

when I moved to L.A. I think a lot of people, when you go to L.A., they tell you to go to one church, right? And being in your church, that was like when you were new to L.A., that's like the only place you kind of felt like we can get together and we feel at home. So to hear you say that your son is being called there,

I feel like he might have a call on his life where he's going to usher in that new generation of that because there's a lot of us that came from the, like we know each other because we went to one church. And it really was like, you LA felt different then now to like at that point too like he might have that for his own self and I think hearing you say that you're scared about that I wonder when you were kind of you know in LA and you decided to get into the church what fears did you have for your own self because you did so much for so many people and he's probably about to do that too wow that's crazy first of all I feel like you prophesying a little bit you definitely encouraging me if if nothing else I didn't I didn't even look at it as fear because I was in it I like grew up there and so you know you know you're You navigate certain things. If you're going to go to certain places, you go a certain way.

But I didn't really have that fear. So that's why I know it's trauma because I don't have it for me, but I have it for him. Try to protect him. Yeah. You dedicated the book to your children. Have they read it yet? They have. They read it before it was published.

Yeah. And that's really like, when I write a book, you know, the Bible talks about a good man will leave an inheritance for his children's children. And of course, that's going to be inheritance of resource. property and all that kind of stuff if you're able to do that but for me it's also wisdom so like knowing is a book that if they didn't have any other book if dad was checking out tomorrow and I needed to leave them a guide that will see them through every season of their lives that's the book and so I have so I envision my children even when I preach I envision my children because the only way it's going to be effective and transformational is if I love if I am in love with the person on the other side

of those words. So I know if I write it for my children, I'm going to write it in love. I'm going to give it my best. And that means that the reader on the other side is going to experience that too. And that is why you allowed your daughter Ella to do your foreword. Yeah, yeah, which is crazy though because she's 10 now, but she was nine at the time. And she came to me and she's kind of like an introvert, to be honest with you. And she came to me and she's like, Dad, I want to write the forward. Now, she's nine years old. Like, first of all, how do you even really really, understand what a four word is, but there was something in her eye, like when she said it, and, you know, kids be tapped in, you know, and I looked at her and I was like, okay, okay.

And so I went to my publisher, my publisher was like, you know, and understandably because it doesn't, you know, it's supposed to be a subject matter expert or somebody that can bring value, but I trusted what she felt. And now, you know, when I'm doing press, that's one of the things that everybody wants to talk about. And when you think about it, children are actually closer to that God knowing than we are. They haven't been contaminated by life and all that kind of stuff. And so it actually was a setup. You know, she knew.

I knew that she knew. And I held on to that knowing. And now everybody's talking about it. I got content around it and it's resonating with people. That's amazing. One thing I love about, you know, you know, Pastor Sarah and even Bishop is that y'all talk about therapy. a lot, right? And going to therapy, because I wonder, can you truly hear and know God if you haven't dealt with your trauma first, or does trauma distort the message of knowing?

Ooh, that's powerful. Trauma definitely distorts the message of knowing because trauma is so, it's so embedded that it feels inherent. It feels real. And that's kind of like God's voice is inherent in us as well. There's this Greek word that's only in the Bible one time, and it literally means an organ of perception. It was translated senses. And so the Bible literally tells us that we have an organ of perception, something in us,

which makes sense because if God gave you ears to hear and eyes to see and a nose and smell, why would God not give you the ability to perceive them spiritually, right? So the reason why trauma feels like that is because it's deep within us. And so if you don't hear from your trauma, you're right you're going to be like me you're going to be calling worry wisdom you know you're going to be calling uh being in despair discernment so i have to clear the channel you know i have to clear trauma's channel

go to therapy work it out so that i can have a a level base to perceive whether or not something is the voice of god but is is trauma bad is all trauma bad when we talk about trauma we we talk about it in a negative way right but i don't necessarily think all trauma can be bad yeah I think that trauma is going to happen to us all. Of course. So good or bad, I agree with you. I think trauma itself might be neutral. It is the effects of trauma that can have a negative impact on your life.

You know, I learned a lot about some of the things through the trauma that I experienced. I learned a lot of things, but it's when those things have me and they begin to distort how I move through life. I can't trust anybody. You know, I call it discernment. You know, my discernment is going off. But your discernment is going off with everybody. Everybody named Mama, your discernment is going off. So that's like the ring camera.

Yeah, like, oh, come on. You know, at some point, you're the common denominator in all these scenarios. So I don't think that trauma is inherently bad, but if it grips you and it distorts you and it and it alters the way you move through life, then that's something you got to address. I like what you said earlier about reframing it. Oh, yeah. What did you say reframe? Reframing it. So I got shot in on December, 20.

And every December 28th, I used to like, if I would see that on the calendar, I'd be like, oh, man, and I would kind of get a little worried. Sometimes I would actually, if I was planning on going out, I may not want to do that or whatever. I would shift it. And God dealt with me about that. He was like, you're looking at December 28th as the day that you almost died. He said, I see December 28th as the day that I saved you. So we're really, so you have to reframe that either you can look at it as this day that something really tight. terrible happened to you or something really great happened to you. And that was, that was liberating. So in life, we do have to reframe our circumstances. There, there's a good word for everything. There's a good word for bad days. There's never a day or an experience in your life, no matter how devastating it is, that there isn't some good in it somewhere. There's always a silver lining, you know, for God causes all things to work together for good. Now, I'm not trying to say like I mean I'll be honest with that I didn't feel that way when I was driving Sarah to the hospital you know in the middle of the night and not knowing what's going on and and seeing my

dog I mean my right hand this this this this woman is my heart you know and we didn't know what it was going to be are you going to live you know are you going to be paralyzed like you know I mean she was mad sweating and and I've never seen her like that before so in that moment yeah you're right man it didn't it didn't feel good but that's where knowing comes in Knowing is not about what you think. It's coming to a place where you know. You know and is stronger than believing. You know, stronger than hoping.

It's stronger than wishing. It is a grounded confidence and belief. And sometimes that reframing will give you the creativity that you need to create the outcome you're looking for. I do have one question. First of all, December 28th is my son's birthday, which is crazy. See? 22 years. He's 22 years old.

But I was going to ask, when do you decide what to explain to your kids and what not to when it comes to trauma, right? Because there's certain things as a father. You know, Charlemagne has four girls. I have four girls and two boys. Certain things, hopefully my kids will never have to deal with. Like that conversation of getting pulled over and what to say the right thing to say, right? My dad's retired police officer. So he told me early what to say because he's seen it from a different angle, from a different lens.

I've had that conversation with my son, but he's never had. that feeling. He's never had that. But because I've told him that and I've told him the things that happened to me, I told him the things that happened to his grandfather, he is concerned, he is scared. That trauma definitely affected him. But now that I have an 11-year-old in the next four years, he's going to start to drive. Do I explain him the same thing? Because I've seen that kind of trauma affected my 22-year-old. Or do I say let him kind of understand on his own? So what do you decide what you explain it not? Yeah, I don't think, I don't think there's one answer because every every child is different and every season of their lives that they're getting ready to walk into is different.

I think that we need to be so engaged with our children, so connected, so tapped in. You know, I get in the car and sometimes you want to tell the child, you know, about your day and you want to ask them, but I'm starting to listen. Like, and so if I listen or really like, what moves you and go down there and, you know, Ella might want to, well, we ain't doing that trampoline no more. but she used to want to play a trampoline. I'm going to uproot that whole thing in my backyard. But that's a perfect example. But even talking to that situation probably is like. Your daughter loves the trampoline, but your wife got injured.

So do you say, now I'm taking that up out of it? Because that's trauma. It is trauma. Your daughter might be traumatized from what she saw. Oh, no, she is. So I think that the point I'm making is building a relationship with the individual child to where you can sense where they are. Because if you sense where they are, you can tell what they can handle.

So, like, even with that scenario, I don't think, I mean, it's sitting there. I already called somebody. I want to dug up, you know, I put it up out of a garden. I think we're going to make a garden out of it something. Just it's going to, it's gone one way or another. But I think every child is different. And I think that knowing them will help you to know what to say and when. Man, it's hard.

But see, that's my perfect example, right? Sue. Let's say something would have happened in the pool. Do you get rid of the pool? Maybe. You know, let's say. But, you know, let's say, baby.

You know, but that's my point because it's a different trauma. Yeah, it did happen, but that might be one in a zillion. There's a million and one kids that enjoy it. So what do you decide to say, I'm going to be overprotective and say,

F, that I'm taking it all out. Or, you know what, things happen? Let's see how we can prevent it from happening like that again. I think it depends on what it is. Now, the trampoline, if you do research on trampolines. I know people be effing themselves up on the champalise. And I had known,

I would have never installed that thing if I'd have known that. So I think a pool is different. You know, pool you can protect it you but the trampoline is different but again I think it's I think it's case by case I think it's case by case I think it's knowing your child and then it's also about making sure that your trauma isn't informing or putting too much weight on the conversation see and this is also how trauma works now I'm like damn I used to I used to go in the backyard

and let the kids go on the trampoline I'll be reading the book and not paying no attention because I know that they're in clothes they just jumping now I'm gonna be paying extra attention to them on the trampoline but I don't even know what to look for when they jump too high But it could be anything It would be the way that they fall Like I do one at a time Right because my kids like to jump And make another kid jump higher

Yeah but I'm like now it's one at a time Why don't we find a new hobby? Right But it's like his daughter's chair My daughter's dance So it's part of it So it's hard to just Take it you know

I know it's hard That thing I mean again the research says It does Lead of trampolines alone Like it just is what it is The pool All right

We can keep the pool But trampoline got to go Listen I can talk to path to the story All day Absolutely. New book is out. We keep going right now. Knowing, we appreciate you for joining us, brother.

Man. We have to close out with a prayer. I say this is a very powerful book, though, but I will tell people, you know, a lot of people are afraid of knowing themselves because it comes with responsibility to change. And I think that's what this book is going to force people to have to do. Yeah, yeah. And I think, you know, we are in uncertain times. Like, and we weren't designed for all this unpredictability. We have to get grounded.

it and I think this book is going to do that. But I would love to pray. And first of all, congratulations on everything that's happening in all of your lives. Just new book, you know, new deals, new flow, new everything. I'm really excited about the hand of God. And like we talked about before, I think that you guys are part of this new wave, that God is going to really, in the backdrop of all this chaos, he's just going to continue to elevate you guys because of who you are and what you do.

So, God, I thank you, Lord, for this opportunity to be on the Breakfast Club. but I thank you, God, for these, your servants. Bless them, God. Bless them collectively, but then also bless them individually, their families, their lives, their businesses. Give them wisdom and strategy. Give them a deep knowing where they might be wondering and ultimately wandering. Give them clarity so that they can start flowing in their knowing.

We thank you. We love you. Bless Sarah. We pray for her right now that you would comfort her, strengthen her, build her up, God. And I thank you that she's coming back stronger than ever before. In Jesus' name. Amen. Amen.

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Can we stop your talk, LL. Cool, babe? Yeah. I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. Take me through that. I'm the home guy that knows a little bit about everything and everything. Lauren.

The little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you. Take me through that. Take me through that. Where she's going? The latest with Lauren Lose. Take me through that. On the breakfast club.

L.L. Cooleck. Talk to me. That's right, Lauren. Let's see if you're flowing and you're knowing, and I'm glad you just wiped your camera because I was about to tell you. Yeah, you look a little more dusty than usual. Yeah. Oh.

Stay focused, Lauren. Stay focused. I'm going to look out for you. Stay focused. Listen. I was going to tell you to do it. Lord, I already text it. I'm going to ask the total off air.

Jesus is in the room. Pastor Ray just pray for us. I would not let thy devil. Flow in your nose. All right. So in the latest. You a lot of things, but you ain't dusty. Exactly.

Ain't nothing dusty, but... Floing your no, Lo. Over there, in Versus World, we're going to continue the conversation. It was announced yesterday that French Montana and Rick Ross will be the next verses going down in L.A. at the Apple Music Studios. This is going to take place on May 7th. Now, Rick Ross and French Montana,

we know they have some hits together. So I think it will be interesting to see kind of how they divide up the music. But, you know, people have already been debating who they think will take home. The way, and as they do, any time of verses, it's announced. I've seen people talking about, they think that this will be super easy for Rick Ross. And I've seen people reminding people of French

Montana's anthems as well, too. Yeah, Ross did it with two chains already. But yeah, I definitely think Ross can go into much, much deeper waters than French. French do got a handful of hits, but Ross can go into much, much deeper waters. Plus, also, why did this matchup? How did this matchup

come to be? I thought that it was random. It doesn't even sound right. Yeah, I thought it was random too. I know they both got cataloged, but I was like, how to be... Respectfully, French don't have the catalog as Rick Ross. I agree with you. It's not even close, to be honest with that, in my personal opinion. No, French got bops, but he got unforgettable, pop that, no style.

But it's not, it's a little different than the key anthems that Riprod has and how deep-seated those are. French has a lot of core fans that love him from the beginning, but when it comes to national success, it's going to be a tough one for French. but I won't say this. Catalog deep. It just doesn't make sense. And then since they both beef with Drake, do they take out the Drake records? French Montana people with Drake?

French Montana said that Drake, well, there was a whole allegation of Drake sending him to cease and desist. Y'all remember that conversation? He didn't really want to get into it when he was with us on the breakfast club. Okay. But, and then, you know, Rick Ross has his issues as well,

too. Remember champagne drizzie? Mm-hmm. Or BBL Drizzi? Mm-hmm. All the thing, yeah. I just don't see Ross and French on the same musical level, guys. I just don't.

It does not make sense. No. You said they got songs together. Why is just not going to be a show? Like, it could just be a show. That's pretty much what it is. That's pretty much what it is. Stay scheming, pop that.

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. And French got some joints. I know. That's what I'm saying. It should be a show, though. Unforgettable, that's huge, right? Absolutely.

But you got, like, I mean, Shot Caller. I feel like that's a very, like, French Montana fan record. Like, I don't know if that's going to be as big as, like, a Ast-Martin' or a Music or, or, like, blowing money fast. I don't know what I'm saying? I can see. I can see French running out of ammo and have to start throwing on bottles. But, you know, Ross going to keep coming with missile after missile after missile.

You got shot caller. You got popped at. You got the Freaks Jack record with Nikki. You got A-Ware-Bed-you-not-haired-not-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stylist. The no-shopping with Drake. Then you got the other record with Drake.

Then you got Unforgetable. You got the new joint. I was going to say, do we count, yeah, his new stuff with Max B. Yeah, so no stylist. So those are the joints that. Now I'll read Ross. Ross got too many records hustling

Astor Martin music Loan Money Fas Stay scheming We talked about that Mayback music too Santerina Greece I'm not a star Like yeah

So we'll see what happens It will be streaming live On Apple Music on May 7 You can go into deep cuts Like free Mason Like it's too much The Fav and the French What's the New Year's?

What's a New Year's record? Wow wow wow Wow They both got out I'll say Rosee different I know people don't like to bring Roseae up in certain conversations, man, but Rose, musically, is a very,

very, very different animal. That's all I'm simply saying, okay? How many records they're doing 10 or 20? 10. That's 10. 10. Okay, if they're doing 10, it's a lot more competitive. It's a lot more competitive. Yes. If they're going 10 for 10, it could be a lot more competitive, but I still got wrong.

French got a strong 10. Yeah, French got French, French, he might start throwing bottles after about 7 and 8. Oh, God. But I still, I still got a, that was crazy. What she said? That was crazy. What is that?

I don't even want to play. Don't even. I was being serious. I'm not even going to. Oh, I thought about the birthday video. I got Ross, though. I got French. All right.

Now us. You are a ridiculous New York. I am. I am a ridiculous New Yorker. God damn right. 30 BX. 30 BX. Yes.

I know, that's right. Ride for your people, gang. All right. So, can I do another one or should we wrap? Go ahead. All right. So speaking of stages, a Sinbad yesterday, you know that it's been years, almost five years, a little over five years since he's been on the stage

following the massive stroke that he had in 2020. He announced his return. Let's take a listen. This is Simbad. I haven't been talking much on social media. All y'all been doing that social media thing, man, we ain't going to go back on stage. I can't walk.

Since the stroke in 2020, I have not been on stage. I'm going to get my feet wet. April 29th, May 10th at the Comedy Ice House in Pasadena, California. Just the beginning. I want to thank everybody who bought tickets. I think it's already.

raised sold out. I'm so looking forward to these shows. I got so much stuff to talk about. I'm talking about your actual advertisement. I've got two very funny people opening for me. It's my daughter, Paige Bryan. And that's the first time we worked together as comics on stage. She talked more trash than I talk. Also, comedian Chase Anthony, who's open for me for the last couple years. I think you for all the prayers of people praying for me. It worked. Nothing but respect for Sam Badman. He was an OG Sinbad, man. Salutes to my TV God Dad.

He played my godfather on the Fox sitcom rail that I did years ago. Simba, he used to listen to the show all the time. He says, he has nothing but love and respect. I'd be telling him I run into Simbaugh's brother Mark. And he said that when he came to the show, he said the breakfast club opened him up to a younger audience that really started supporting him. So salute to Simbao. And I know people probably hear that promo and they were like, yo, he still don't sound like he's ready to be on stage yet. But you never know, man, going out there might help in his healing process.

It does. I mean, when my mom was going through her stroke recovery, one of the things the doctors told me was let her go do things that she loves to do, monitor, but let her do it. And it'll help with the memory. It'll help with her cognitive, like different muscles, like just different things that your body naturally will need to get back to. So it could be a healing thing for him as well.

Yeah. So looking out for that as well. And that is the latest for the hour. All right. Salomey, who are you giving that down on Kutu? Man, four after the hour. I need South Carolina lieutenant governor, Pamela Evitt, to come to the front of the congregation.

We like to have a word with her this morning. All right. We'll get to that next. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Hey, don't get under a shape, man. You are a donkey. It's time for donkey of the day. Donkey of the day does not discriminate. I might not have the song of the day, but I got the donkey a day. So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey man, give it with the heat.

It's a breakfast club, bitch. Who's dunkie of the day today? Well, Ed Sharon, Donkey of the Day for Thursday, April 30th, goes the lieutenant governor, Pamela Abbott of South Carolina. And drop on the clues bombs from my home state of South Carolina. Okay, 843, 803, 864 all day. Now, if you haven't heard, Lieutenant Governor Pamela Ebbett was scheduled to be the commencement speaker at South Carolina State University.

Drop on a clues bomb for SC State University. Damn it. My mother graduated from SC State University class in 1975. Okay, I also have an honorary degree from SC State University. So this one hits a little different. I'll come over there and punch you in the face. Sorry, sorry. I'll get Beijing all over my knuckles right now.

Sorry. Sorry. All right. He just made a chuckle guy. Now, as I said, Pamela Abbott was scheduled to be the commencement speaker at SC State University. Okay, bought the students of, but the SEC, she was scheduled to be the commencement speaker of SC State University. But the students of SC State University said, man, watch out. Okay, let's go to CBS Ten for the report, please.

Well, honestly, she just doesn't align with our values here at South Carolina State University. She speaks against DEI, which every HBCU, honestly, every school benefits from. Student government leaders and seniors saying their concerns focus on whether the speaker reflects the values of the university community. Students say commencement should be about a moment that reflects their experience and their future. During a press conference Wednesday morning, Lieutenant Governor Pamela Avette says she was invited months ago and plans to deliver a positive message. The college called and asked if I would be their commencement speaker and was happy to do that. I'm always happy to share a positive message. She also called to end diversity, equity, and inclusion,

but she also pushed back on criticism, pointing to what she calls a broader issue on college campuses. We have to get rid of DEI on college campuses. We've got to get rid of indoctrination by professors on college campuses by ending tenure. She's no longer the commencement speaker, and I have zero problem with this. Okay, why? because commencement day should be all about the students, okay? That's what commencement ceremonies are for to celebrate the students.

Their accomplishment of graduating, it's about reflection for the students, closure for the students, and most importantly, recognition of their academic journey. Commitment ceremonies honor the hard work of students, the personal sacrifices and students, and the achievements of the students who are now graduates. And it's also an opportunity for families and loved ones to share in the pride of the moment. That moment does not need to be overshadowed by someone who, is in opposition to the values that these students believe in. Okay, Lieutenant Governor, Pamela Evitt, has publicly opposed DEI programs.

That's her right as an American, but who in the hell would invite someone who is against DEI to speak at an HBCU, okay? Pamela, I don't know if you know, but when the Trump administration attacks DEI, they are attacking HBCUs and HBCU students as well, okay? Because without DEI, HBCUs aren't in short funding for infrastructure and infrastructure in student programs, their access to top employers are halted. Basically, DEI initiatives help close these gaps that exist in regards to access the opportunities for these black students.

Not to mention, they combat systemic racism in hiring and education. All that progress black people have made rolled back because of your boy, and you are in public opposition to DEI programs, okay? That attack HBCUs, but you want to come speak at an HBCU? That makes no sense to me. Also, SC State University President Alexander Conyas, why would y'all want that? Okay, like, her views don't politically align with the school's history. They don't align with SC State's mission.

They don't align with the history of Orangeburg. Do I have to remind you of February 8, 1968, when students from SC State and Claplin were protesting segregation, and after days of demonstration, law enforcement confronted those students and let off shots, opened fire on a boy. bunch of unarmed students to Orangeburg Massacre, those protests were organized by SC State students. Okay, the confrontation happened near the campus grounds. Okay, Samuel Hammond Jr., who was killed, was an SC State student. Henry Smith, who was killed, was a SC State student?

Rest and peace of Delano Middleton as well, I think he was in high school at the time. But dozens of SC State and Claflin students were injured, okay? The same spirit of those kids who were out there protesting segregation in 68, that was the same spirit that we saw the past couple of days protesting against Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evitt in 26. Maybe that's what President Cony's was trying to say when he was speaking yesterday because he seemed to be concerned about how the students of SC State would be perceived. Let's listen. We can't pull back what's out on social media.

We can't pull back what people think. But I certainly don't want people to think that the students here at South Carolina State University, future educators, doctors, lawyers, attorneys, scientists, business owners, are thugs. I've made the decision to rescind the invitation to the lieutenant governor

to speak at your commencement. In light of the history in Orangeburg, I can understand the trauma that he may be feeling. I don't want to speak for him, but it sounds like something like the Orangeburg massacres in the back of his mind, but let the record show. Protesting is not an act of terrorism, okay,

but rather a constitutional right. Those kids at SC State exercise their right to peacefully protest. So anyone who looks at those kids is thugs. That says more about them than it does those kids. Those are probably the same people who call January 6th insurrectionist patriots, but call a bunch of young black men and women at SC State University protesting thugs and a woke mob. Oh yes, Pamela Everett called him a woke mob. Let's listen. Well, I was at the White House today. I heard about what's happening on the campus of SC State University. Let's be clear. Facts trump feelings in the real world. President,

President Trump and conservatives have done more for HBCUs than any administration in history. I must be doing something right because woke mobs are coming after me for being a champion of eliminating radical DEI scams on college campuses. So bring it on. Just like President Trump, I'll never back down or bend a knee to the woke radicals. I'm ending DE high on campuses once and for all. Oh, the Hellman's was heavy in that statement. Wipe the mayonnaise off your fingers.

Okay. All she proved to me with that statement is that SC State University made the absolute wrong choice to have her as the commencement speaker, with the absolute right choice in removing her. Okay. Those young men and women at SC State were 100% correct in their right to protest. They have the right to say who gets to represent their HBCU on its biggest stage. Now, SC State, if you are looking for a new commencement speaker, look no further than one of your own right there on campus. Nicarah Marie, I believe that's her name. I watched this clip of her speaking like about four times yesterday. Let's listen. I want to be clear about this.

This is not a black and white issue. This is not a political issue. It's not a Democratic or Republican Party issue. It's not about that. It's a morality issue. We're here. We've been here for four or five years. Commitment, we should have someone who's going to celebrate us.

How can someone who goes against everything that we stand for and believe in morality-wide? How can that person uplift me? me or I'm there stepping into the real world. How can I, I don't feel supported. It's nothing that she can say that will make me feel encouraged to step out into this society. A society where the, the America in the country that I believe in, she don't have that same agenda. And I want to say something, being conservatives is not the issue. That's all right.

We all have our own political. But she's explicitly said, I am a Trump conservative. Okay, if you believe in Trump, you support pedophilia. You support bigotry. You support racism. What else? Pro-pro police, the same police that's killing our people, the same. And also, she also supports ICE.

We don't believe in that. South Carolina State has a history of being an activist and being pro-active and standing up and believing in what's right. S.S.C. State, if you're looking for a commencement speaker, there she go. Now, Kara Marie dropping a Cleveland mom's from the Kara Marie. Okay? Pamela, Evan, if you had no idea why they didn't want you, She just told you. Also, you can't refer to your critics as a woke mob and double down on your positions

because all you did was further alienate students and you reinforced their concerns. And guess what? Concerns when managed effectively turn into actionable steps. And the students of SC State respectfully managed their concerns and they told you to get the step in. Please let Chelsea Handler give South Carolina Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evitt the biggest he-ho. he-ha, he-ha! That is way too much, Dan Manez. Dropping a clues, bonds for S.C. State again, damn it. Okay?

Mm-hmm. And you're going to respect my honorary degree from S.C. State. You hear me? I didn't mean a chuckle. Okay. I didn't mean it laugh, I'll laugh. Because you got a real degree. I do.

And it means nothing. My honorary degree means a lot. It means nothing. Okay? And my degree means everything. You worked for yours. That's right. And you, how did you feel at your commencement ceremony, envy?

How did I feel? Yes. How did you feel? Like, who did you speak? Who spoke? Who spoke? Yeah, who spoke at y'all? I don't remember.

I remember a couple of years before they had Bush, and everybody was upset about that. Like, why the hell you would bring Bush on this campus to speak? We've had Hillary Rodden. Oh, so y'all didn't protest. So y'all didn't have the revolutionary spirit of the kids at South Carolina State University. But she was talking. But you don't really care because you're Dominican. We did.

No, you did. Yes, they did. They did. They did protest. But, I mean, at the time, the president at the time, that's what was happening. And he kind of did what he wanted to do. so that's what was happening. Y'all ain't protest hard enough. We had Barack Obama after that.

Okay. Yeah, so. No, who spoke at yours, though? I can't remember who spoke at mine. Man, that poor person. I can't speak. Was you high? Like, you don't know.

What was you doing? I was happy to graduate. I was happy to graduate. Okay. That's what it was. And I didn't graduate in my year. I graduated a semester after. But commencement ceremonies are for the students.

Yes, they are. Absolutely. Even if they don't remember who their commencement speakers are. Yes. Because you're supposed to remember. Yes. If I went to college, remembered. You don't remember who spoke at BMCC

when you graduated? Ain't no BMCC, yo. No, it was... CBCCBCC. CBC Community College of Baltimore City. There you go. Rome went to Baltimore City. Rome was the commencement speaker? That's crazy. How was her baby daddy, the commencement speaker and her community college

graduation? No, before Rome went to Morgan State University, he went to B-T-T-T-B-C and I went to C-CBC. What? They was both community colleges, but B-T-R-C is like a nicer, like, you know, a better community. That sounds like something I got to take for my cholesterol. BCCC.

Yes. Whatever. Anyway. Oh, my goodness. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey today. Now, when we come back, just fix my mess. 800-585-105-1.

You know, her book is out right now. Tell death do we parent? Tell death do we parent. So if you need some relationship issues, if you're having some co-parenting issues in your life, and she can help you out. She has a book. She wrote about it, and she will help you with your problems.

So call her up right now. 800-58-1-50-105-1. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Ex about me. Relationship problems? X about me. You need to beat your co-worker's ass.

X about me. Your coworker need to beat your ass. Call it up. Thank Dr. Jess, and I'm here to fix your mess. It's getting very much messy. Let me fix it. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV.

Just hilarious. Salamey and the guy. We are the breakfast club. We have Michelle on the line. Michelle, good morning. Good morning. How are you this morning? I'm good.

What's your question for Jess? To be honest, I just don't know where to start with even cold parents. What is a few tips to even start co-parenting with somebody who's been cheating on you for years and disrespecting you? Are you looking to still be with that person or are you trying to walk away? You know? No, I'm trying to walk away. I think it's time to walk away. Yeah.

Okay. So you're in a relationship currently and you want to end it. You want to walk away because I was going to say, are y'all broken up yet or are you still in it and you feel like you need to leave? We're basically broken up. I told him this past weekend I'm done after the years of infidelity and lying and gaslighting. And we have a

21 month old. Yeah, I know that hurts and the feelings are fresh. But you're still in it. You know, you just over the weekend decided that you can't take it anymore. So that's that's going to be, that's going to take time because you're still in it. And I write about

this in the book early, the early years when me and me and my son's father, Jerome, was raising our son. I was trying to show up to be the bitter parent. I mean, like my bitter, like I was trying to be a bitter baby mom and then show up as the best parent. There's no way. Your baby is way too young.

There's no way that you can do that because it's not going to affect anyone, ultimately, but the kid. Like, you know what I mean? And right now that baby's so young, the baby needs nothing but love, needs to be surrounded by nothing but pure love, affection, you know, just good vibes because it's a lot going on in the world. But you are like, it right now. So you're, I know you're at the point where you see no way out, but you have to do

what you got to do for you. And you have to still communicate with him because the baby is so young, but you have to take your feelings out of it. It seems like the hardest thing to do, but you've got to change your mindset. Because what I'm hearing is he, he knows what to tell you, he knows what to say to get you back and get him back and get good graces and everything. And then you fall forward and you sound like it's a pattern. Like you've fallen for his, crap over and over again. Exactly. Yeah, no. But you sound pretty fed up. You sound like you're off to a good start, you know.

But don't, don't move with like bruised ego. Don't move. It's okay to be bitter, but don't stay there. You know what I'm saying? And don't communicate with him that way. Rise above that. You can have your own feelings and the comfort of your own home by yourself. You know what I'm saying?

But don't. Amen. Yeah. Yes. Don't be angry. at him. Like don't, don't, don't talk to him. Don't talk down to him. Don't talk bad about him around the baby. None of that. Because, you know, he's going to feel it much more, much worse than you. Focus on yourself, love yourself, love that baby. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Absolutely. But you got to be

hard, girl, because you just left over the weekend. So next weekend, you might be a little horn and be like, look, I want to call my baby daddy. No, don't do it. Because that's the first thing that we got to stop doing. We got to stop sleeping with him. That, that hell is. That, hell is it. It helps you with your feelings. Don't worry. I'm good. I'm going to worry about that. I'm going to worry about that.

I'm going to call you. I'm going to call you next to you if I need any advice. Yes, I don't care how many times you call me. Shut up, boy. I'm not, she's not talking about that. She's not even gay. And I'm not gay no more like that. All right, so, no, yes.

I don't care how many times you got to call me? If I got to be your control factor, your mentor, yes, don't go back girl. Call me every time. I know. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. No problem, babe. In the middle of Just Fix My Mess. Hello. Who's this? Um, is Brandon?

Brandon, what's your question for Jess, bro? Oh, man. I just want to say, yo, I'm a big fan of the show. Um, I love you guys. Y'all have been, you know, like a big part of my life. Um, big motivation to my podcast I had going on called the Baby Daddy podcast. And, um, I really do appreciate the work that y'all done for the community and stuff like that. I'm like, actually really nervous right now. Make sure to give me your info. I want to, you should book a brother named Rome to be a guest on your baby daddy podcast.

You know what, whatever. Wait, what? Yo, yo, shout out to you guys. Yo, I appreciate you. For real. I just want to, uh, Jess know, I'm a big fan of hers. Um, I love you so much, Jess. You are like, like, legit, man.

You know, there's a lot of comedians out there who aren't really real about what they do or say. And you are one of them, man. So I really appreciate, I really appreciate everything that you do. Thank you so much. I appreciate. that. What's the issue that you did with? What you need? All right. So me and my girlfriend, my ex-girlfriend

at the moment, we've been on and off for five years. And we recently just broke up again. But I feel like every time we break up, it's been over something that I couldn't control. Like, first time we broke up, I'm not even going to lie. She ended up that I had a kid that I didn't tell her about.

Oh, my God. And that's kind of like blew up this spot. You know, and we were a partner by it like a year. and then we got back together just to find out that while we're broken up, I got another girl pregnant. Oh, yeah, so you know what, Rome would be. The greatest guest that you would have.

They would be born. Absolutely, yes, because that happened to me. I talked about that at my book till death do we parent, which I hope you're ordering, because it's not like you're going to need a lot of advice on how to raise all these damn cage. I got on my spot to fire right now. All right, so your question to me is how do you,

get her back, your girlfriend of five years that you cheated on a lot of times? I had a lot of babies with. Yeah, we end up getting back together, but now we broke up for something small. I ended up talking to her brother's ex-girlfriend while we were breaking up just to be spiteful.

We never did anything. It was just basically to keep tabs on what the hell she got going on. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, yo, she hate the family just as much as I hate the family because he ended up getting kicked out of family. This is the same, you know?

Okay. So I was just trying to keep with her, but I guess apparently she's telling, uh, she came out and told her that me and her have sex and stuff like that, which wasn't true. Um, she, well, that's a little hard to believe. You're not really the most credible person. You know, I would believe it if I was her as well. Yeah. Yeah. You got to let your ass. You got to let you pass. You got to like that. Um, it's just that, um, this, you know, time around, we've always had to deal with something like more serious every time we got back together. Yes. We had to deal with a pregnancy scare that, you know, um,

very drastic and stuff like that. You know, we're talking about marriage and shit. And then this little rumor come out and it just kind of blow up the spot. And I understand that, you know, she's, she has no faith in me and stuff like that. Yeah, because you got to think about it. And her mindset right now is, is it worth it? Is it worth it? You got to think about all the times that she did take you back, all the times that you hurt her.

And you did whatever you had to do to get back to get her back. But you got to think about it. This is a, you know, it's five years on and off. But like, that's still. a long time and that's five years that she may have felt like sometimes she wasted of her life dealing with dealing with you you have a lot of toxic you know a lot of toxic ways and a lot of dysfunction going on because the ex her brother's ex-girlfriend that you talk to just to keep tabs do you know there are so many other ways that you can keep tabs on your ex

you don't have to go that route so i am with her i totally believe that y'all that is that was not the only agenda you had i believe that you did it to be spiteful i do believe it went far and maybe you did sleep with that girl. However, I think you should take this, this moment right now and just show her changed behavior. I don't think you should try to talk her into getting her back. I don't think you should try to stalk her to get her back. I don't think you should try to, no, I think you should let her have her time, let her come back to you on her own, but the best apology is changed behavior. That's what it is. You got to just show her that you changed. Like, that's just what it is. But you, you got to get yourself.

together. I think you shouldn't even be in a relationship. You shouldn't be worrying about knocking nobody down. You got a lot of little kids out here. You know what I'm saying? You and a running to be the next room. No. That's why you need to read the book. But I think you should take time to spend with yourself. You've got to love on yourself, King.

You can't keep planting seeds and seeking comfort of the, you know, under the sheets with other women. If you've got one woman in mind and you've got to do the work on yourself to love her properly. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, you know, I love time I spend, you know, I don't really have a lot of friends up here. I moved to Ohio back in

2019, you know, huge of my kids and stuff like that. I don't get a lot of friends, people to talk to. So I talk to my, I tend to talk to myself, you know, I actually kind of like, you know, talked about me. I haven't just changed myself. Yeah. I feel like every time that we do break up, though, I've changed and changed more and more. Yeah. You know. And that may be true. I'm not saying I don't believe you. That may be true, you know? You sound like a level-headed young man, but you also sound like you're aware. So I thank you for being honest, you know, and not holding back.

You know what I mean? Because you could have lied to me. I would have found out you was lying. But I appreciate you to be 100% honest. But that silence is not bad. The silence is not bad. That just means that you got to sit and confront everything, all the noise that you need to work through to be a better person, you know, for her.

Or not even, even if it's not for her, for yourself. So you can date intentionally, you know? Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Just give her some time, give us some space, but change yourself. I appreciate it. Michaela, I love you. I'm just going to give her a shout out right here.

Absolutely. Go ahead. Go ahead. But, you know, shout out to you. I love you so much. I love all my babies, Malik, Marius, Teia. I love you guys. I mean the world to me. And, you know, like I said, again, shout out to the breakfast club.

I love you guys. Check out my podcast, the baby daddy podcast. The baby daddy podcast. You better be, you know what, now I'm going to check it out. you better be speaking some positivity and, you know, trying to change. Oh, man, I got to change patterns, man. You better not be going there.

I've been a little depressed lately, so I haven't been really dropping any episodes. It's kind of hard to try to speak your mind when you got a lot of stuff on it. It's okay, but you know what? That's why you have a podcast. This is the perfect time to do it. You speak your real feelings,

and I'm telling you, somebody out there is going to be able to relate to it. Then you can bring experts on. You can bring other baby daddies on that can tell their side, and y'all can try to figure out this dysfunction and toxicity y'all got together

so y'all can be better men for yourselves and these women that you're seeking to be with. Oh, yeah. Yes. I'm happy for you. Absolutely. Thank you. And V.

Thank you, Shalemey. I love you guys. No problem. Love you too, King. Just Fix My Mess. 800, 585-105-1. Don't forget, make sure you pick up her book till deaf do we parent,

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Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jette. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack.

So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.

Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcasts. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends...

Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same. prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no.

I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Let's get right to the latest with Lauren.

Lauren becoming a straight fan She gets them to be somebody that knows somebody She gets the details I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything She'd be having the latest on this The latest with Lauren La Rosa Sometimes you have facts Sometimes you have details

Sometimes she have a little bit everything Well it's the latest Brought to you by Top Dog Law On the Breakfast Club Talk to me We've got to get another angle for our good For my good niece Lauren La Rosa Because that looks crazy

What's that? It looked like she auditioned for the ET reboot. Oh, wow. Yo, her head does not like that big. Charlemagne. Charlemagne. Say Charlemagne. Say Charlemagne.

Hey. Her head don't look that big. You're so lucky you sit behind that table when they can't see them hips. Leave my head alone. Okay. You're talking about big and thick, baby. I'm glad you know. All right?

Your head is not that big. It's not that big. I'm not worried about him. Ain't nothing big with them his strict to you. Maybe. Continue on. Focus. Stay focused.

Stay focused. Stay focused. All right. All right. You said, I got cake. You do. baby. Oh my goodness.

Stay focused, Lauren. So T.I. is suing a record label that he has worked with. It's a record label called sync music. So this music group, this label brought T.I.'s catalog back in 2017. Now, he is suing them because he says

that they have refused to honor a contract that promised to let him buy back his same masters at a cheaper price or at a set price. So basically, T.I. in this label, they put together this whole, like, way that they would calculate the numbers after a certain amount of years. But now that he's going back to exercise that option, he's saying that they're

racking up the price 20 times higher than what it should be. They're asking for close to like $50 million. So he is, you know, battling that out right now. He wants to reclaim what was told to him in the beginning. I mean, I don't know how Masters and everything works clearly, because I would think Tia's Masters would be worth way more than a few million dollars. But we don't know how what percentage of the masses. We don't know what records. We don't know the details. But if he hasn't in contract,

I'm sure this would be an easy way. So according to the contract, so he's saying that they inflated the price of $52 million, but the contract formula that they agreed on in 2017 would value the catalog at closer to $3 million. So they would have to sell it at a lower price. So I'm sure, you know, it probably is worth, you know, a bit more than that.

But what he's saying is like when I did this deal, I set it up in a way which would make sense. And now because it doesn't make sense for you guys. Y'all are trying to act like we didn't have this whole agreement. So they're going to battle it out and see what happens. In other news, Billboard Women and Music, the event went down yesterday.

Kiki Palmer hosted it. Kaylani was honored. Mariah the scientist was honored. Kelly Rowland took the stage as well too. My girl. Yes. But there were so there were some hiccups and it wasn't just exclusive to Tiana Taylor when she got on the stage

because it also happened with Kelly Roland. But Tiana Taylor went on stage. to accept her award, which was given to her by Deion Warwick. And when she first got on stage, there was an issue on Billboard's side. Let's take a listen. Can I get the telepromp? Adlet, my speech is cute. They're going to pull up this goddamn speech.

Where in my speech? I don't already messed up my mic, my ears, all types of stuff, huh? Oh, it says Tiana Taylor, we have no script for you. Oh, damn. Everyone exits stage right. That's crazy. Oh, damn. Yeah.

So, Tiana. and Nikki started raising hell backstage. Okay, now listen. That's Tiana Mama. Yes, Ms. Nikki, Tiana's mom, who's also her manager. Tiana talks about her mom and her family backstage and how it went down. Let's take a listen to audio number three. To my mother, my mommy, you are my backbone.

It was so dope watching you curse them out back there. But I will say I want to thank Billboard for the accountability. I want to thank Billboard for being warm. I want to thank Billboard for coming to the room right away and acknowledging what was done. So I appreciate you, Billboard. Thank you very much. Imagine if that was live.

That could have been bad. You know what I'm saying? Because nobody has to deal with the brunt of the embarrassment but the person on stage. See, but you could watch it live on stream online yesterday. Like when I had one of our producers watch it,

you could watch it on stream. Billboard had to come out and issue an apology because it just looked crazy. And then they brought Tiana Taylor back on stage so she could actually give her award because this was a big award of the night. She won the visionary award. Like she was one of the big talked about awards.

So let's take a listen to our actual speech. Thank you to Billboard for this incredible honor. This year marks 20 years in music for me. And what those 20 years taught me is that purpose doesn't rush. Purpose waits on you to become who you're meant to be. I've always chosen to do things my way, not because it was easy, but because it was honest. And as women, we are visionaries by nature. We don't wait for permission.

we create possibility. So never underestimate a woman with a vision because by the time you see it, she's already been building it. Every woman, every young girl watching, trying to figure it out, please, please, please don't shrink yourself to fit in rooms that were never built for you in mind.

Take up space. Be loud about your dreams, even when your voice shakes. Because, yes, being different might make people feel uncomfortable, but it's also the very thing that will make you unforgettable. Dropping a clues box, Tiana, Tilly.

Yes. Absolutely. I forgot to put that speech in the prompt. Right. Okay. Every word. Every word. I felt that.

Yeah. And I wanted to, as we close out, Jess, I wanted to congratulate you. I know I heard you guys talk about the top of the show that you hit some of the Amazon's book list at the top of the list. Congratulations to you. Thank you. I know it's been a fight, girl. But, okay. Did you see Jess on Tamron Hall yesterday?

I did. And Jess, I thought you did an amazing job. Me too. Thank you. Oh, my God. I've never seen the balance. Don't make Jess cry. I've never seen just yesterday.

I've never seen her that mature looking. Her hair looked very mature. Leave it there. She sounded very mature. And it makes you wonder why is she not like that in this room? Because of y'all. It's the environment and the people that I work with. Tamara Hall, ratchet ass.

She is not ratchet. She wasn't ratchet yesterday. She was, Jess, you were number one on the parent and family's bestselling for Amazon. And that's what you gave yesterday on Tamara Hall. When I was watching you, I was like, okay, this is Jessica Robin Moore to Oliver. Okay, like, thank you.

I was nervous. I was nervous. I was nervous, too. Cameron did ask one question that I was like, and I see, that's something I would have asked. What's that? What's that? What? Marley is now a year old. She is a year.

I saw this clip of you and Marley. She's learning Spanish. Why are you teaching her Spanish? Because she hate Mexican, half black. Okay. So it was important that she's, bilingual because of Chris's family. Yes. Let's play it with Marley.

Mommy. Pappy. Pappy. Abuelito. Burger. Hamburger. Taco. She speaks Spanish much better now.

That was her first word. And then that was me teaching her. What you mean? That's what I don't understand. Why are you teaching her Spanish? It could be her grandma. It could be Chris. Like, why are you teaching her Spanish?

Her first word was daddy. But whatever. You lied to me, you're showing me. It was supposed to have been a funny video. I didn't know she was going to pick that. I only know, like, eight Spanish words. I don't know why she would pick that. But just the fact she asked you, why is you, why are you teaching your daughter's man?

Did she ask me like, yeah, like I'm not supposed to be. Like my baby just can't be bilingual? She didn't know Chris was Mexican because he's so tall so he throws people off when they see him. First of all, he is, he's black and Mexican. Everybody is always looking for a full-blown Mexican and it's not happening. No, he's black. Yes, Chris is black. We joke.

Oh, my God. He's Mexican as well. Why would y'all put this on? He's probably there and he don't even like this type of jokes. The latest is brought to you by what? Thank you, Lord. It's brought to you by Top Dog Law, y'all. Any accident, bigger, small, called Top Dog Law.

All right, the mix is up next, y'all. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Salomey God. We are the breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building. My favorite capitalist.

Yo. Ladies and gentlemen, now, Joe. Some mouse. Wow. What's up mouse? That's the edit we're going on it. Yeah. My favorite.

Don't let him do you like that. No, you know, y'all don't understand. He'd really be on my phone talking so crazy about this capitalism. You started it. You didn't start it. Oh, capitalism stuff. Right. He started it.

I had nothing to do with nothing. No, we just have healthy conversations about, you know, things like capitalism. That's all. You don't mouss my guy, man, you know? Now, how have the conversation come out about, before we get into your competition about you being a capitalist? I'm not a capitalist. I'm not a capitalist. to wear clothes.

The only way to fight capitalism is to be naked. That's what he's saying. The only way to fight capitalism is to be naked. But-necked and broke. You got to start your own community of butt-necked and broke people. I'm not going to do that. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.

Listen, I think to be a little serious for us, I just believe that a lot of people in our community have a fundamental misunderstanding of capitalism versus commerce and currency. people think because you make money that you're obviously a capitalist or instead of realizing you're just a cog in capitalism you know what I'm saying a lot of people that claim to be capitalist you don't have the capital tool to be a capitalist correct you just have commerce and you have currency you know what I'm saying I just I'm not I don't believe in capitalism I think it's I think it's one of the probably one of the worst things that's happened to the African American community and as long as people keep believing that you can somehow work your way out of it and then control it, they're going to keep just being more capitalist made. That's it.

So what's the alternative? Like, because this is the only system that we have. Democrat socialism, that's the only way. But in order to, well, I believe in social democracy, but to believe in social democracy, you have to believe in capitalism because you have to operate within a capitalist framework. To operate in something doesn't mean you have to agree with it.

Oh, I agree with that. That's where, that's the, that's where, typically that's where me and you land. Right. Like, okay, we're in a capitalist society. I get that. We have to live, right? But you want state regulations. I want state regulations. You want high taxation on the wealthy. You want a strong welfare state. You want the wealth redistributed equally. That's all. I get it. That's all. I just don't. I just hate the fact that for capitalism to exist, one, you have to exploit others. That's where, that's the fundamental part that I stand on. So how are you exploiting people at the dead ass company? I'm not exploiting anybody.

And that is a comedy show. Actually, we're empowering them. For free. For free. A small donation. Small donation. $45 for the VIP donation. Okay.

35 for the regular donation. But it's just a donation. Once again, we're just sharing the commerce. We're sharing the currency. Is that your comedy? You take political stance. and your comedy as a host. I'm somebody that really like I'm a stand-up but I'm a host first. You know what I'm saying? So I really lean into the hosting. So there's only but so many bits,

you know, so many deep political bits you could get off while you're hosting. But yeah, I got a few jokes in there. I think more of my political takes are more or less for the podcast space. Gotcha. Yeah, so people see that. But yeah, dead ass, we're just there to have a good time. Capitalists are welcome. They have to be. They have to pay for it. Unless you want a bunch of butt-necked and broke people in the building. Once again, I don't know why you keep putting me next to people that have butt-naked.

Put some goddamn clothes on. The other thing I love about Mouse, Mouse loves radio. And Mouse has a goal and a dream of being on New York radio. And I will not rest until I help him achieve that goal and that dream. I love it. That's funny because you look well-rusted. You look like you're resting. You look like your feet have been kicked up.

Ark has been very, very relaxing. The dead-ass comedy show goes down. Now, we're going to get Moust on New York radio at some point, man. Yes, we are. I'm trying to think. He should be on weekends. I agree. I'm perfect for Mouth.

I'm available. I agree. I'm available. Yo, that'd be perfect for Mott and Toll coach and Mous would be perfect for weekends, man. I agree. Also, just June 7 for the next Dead Aster Comedy Show, I want to book you. I'm staying in front of New York City, so, you know, that way. I love that.

If they don't see you, I'm just going to be like, hey, I tried. Yo, I love that. And I'm also to tell you something else. I didn't know that there was a Brooklyn improv. So it used to be, yeah. So Brooklyn Improv, it just turned into Brooklyn Improv. I think for like the last two and a half years, it was the, it was Second City. Okay, yeah, I heard of that.

It was Second City, but now it's the improv. Dope. Okay, I got a swing past. But no, Jim 7, all right, that's manifested. You're going to book me. That's cool. Hopefully you could afford it. Let's do it, wow.

Wow. Capitalism at work. Wow. Capitalism at work. I ain't stand it. Jesus. If you haven't got your tickets, it goes down SOBs this Sunday, Joker.

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